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Hey, good afternoon, everybody. Welcome

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to I on the Ball here on
Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera,

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you're jagan ZAUS got our guy Henry
and today welcome to Wednesday Show.

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Hope to have a good one.
Hope to have a lot of calls today.

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Yeah, we could use them,
could use them. No guests in

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the first hour, at least,
not right now. We've been It's June,

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right, it is June, and
it's just part of the end of

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June. Yeah, end of June. So we're kind of treating we're already

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hitting the dog days. People are
on vacation or people hard to find.

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Yeah, you know, and they
are. I mean, you know,

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this breakfast club that I go to
on Tuesday mornings, usually we've got,

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you know, fifty sixty people at
the meetings O're forty. Yeah, you

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know, people are just you know, they're taking a vacation. You've been

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out side. You get the hell
out of dood dogs. Yeah, but

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yeah, exactly exactly, and so
yeah, no, it's it's that time

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of the year. So yeah,
okay, yeah, great. If you

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want to call calls at any time, we won't have anybody at least right

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now in the first first hour of
five two oh four, one, six

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seventy four, four seventy four forty
you can give us a call, fill

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us in whatever's going on your thoughts. I've got a lot of not a

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few texts on how excited it's not
the right word optimistic they are because the

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recruiting that's going on. Yeah,
a lot of those, you know,

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my Wednesday lunch was a lot of
that discussion. Everybody's you know, feels

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like he and it. It's like
everybody agrees, we don't know how good

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players are, you know, for
a while. But you know, when

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you see that they're beating teams like
you know, Oregon, Oklahoma, Washington,

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you know whatever that those as opposed
to you know, all corn State

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or whatever, you know, there's
a good feeling that that Arizona might be

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getting some good players right right and
if what you can spin it this way

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too, if they're not uh,
the four or five star guys which of

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course it's hard to do here.
Uh what's the what's the other phrase.

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Well, they're gonna coach them up. They're gonna coach them up. Uh,

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you know, they're what they call
them okay g's okay gez. Yeah,

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you know, And I think that
that's sort of you know, where

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Arizona is and where they're going to
be, And there's nothing wrong with that.

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I think that, Uh, you
know, Arizona's not that place.

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It's gonna get you know, all
the five stars. So they got to

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get guys, they got to develop
them, they got to coach them,

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and they got to keep them in
you know, they got to keep them

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here for a period of time.
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let's go. I'm gonna you know
how I am. I kind of

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round about questions to you and to
everybody who's listening. Uh So, Caitlin

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Clark's going to be playing in Phoenix, I think next week, if I

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if I yeah, Henry, you
can perming me with your head nod.

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Hey, yeah, I guess some
of the tickets, if some of the

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big tickets are like three hundred bucks
each, you're paying that sheet. No,

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she feels she feels the arena,
wherever she goes. And that's that's

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the amazing thing about it. You
know, they're not just coming to her

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home games. You know, they're
they're everywhere. They're they're everywhere everywhere she

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goes. They're you know, they're
fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, eighteen thousand

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people at these games. Then great, you know, rather than say well,

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it's because of this or it's because
of that, you say, guess

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what, that's cool for the WNBA. And and you know, we we

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had that conversation this afternoon as well. Is that you know, I get,

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I get the the the mentality of
existing WNBA players who you know,

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want to say, look, we're
going to make her work hard for this.

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We're gonna you know, we're gonna
make it hard on her coming in.

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And they do that for a lot
of rookies, which is fine,

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But the resentment that they have towards
the attention that she's getting, you need

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to get over that and embrace it. You know, we've said that a

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bunch of times, and embrace it
and take advantage of it by you know,

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being a person that Okay, if
she's gonna get all this attention,

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well I'm you know, I want
to get my attention to and it's gonna

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do me some good. But in
the right way. Not by going up

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and knocking her down when she's standing
there, you know, but more along

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the lines of, you know,
playing hard against her, you know,

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when she comes to town, you
know, throw a little extra into it

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and look good doing it, rather
than you know, trying to you know,

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come across as a thug that's just
pissed off that somebody else is getting

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attention that you're not. Yeah.
So well, the first question was you

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pay for it? No, three
hundred bucks, I'm not paid. I

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might pay fifty bucks. It might
pay I don't know. Look, I'm

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not I'm not a huge fan of
the w NBA. I'll watch it occasionally.

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I've watched, You've watched more than
you ever had, right because I've

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wanted to see. Okay, what's
what's all the excitement about? For free?

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But I'm not for sure. Yeah. Look, I go to one

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or two Diamondbacks games a year,
so you know, I haven't been.

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I've been to two Sons games ever. So I mean, you know,

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it's not It's not a sport that
interests me to to spend my money on

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and you go to diving back my
primarily see the do you see the Dodgers

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exactly? So you know, look, it's it's stated. We've had this

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conversation a million times. It's kind
of expensive to go to a sporting event.

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And so if I'm going to go
to a sporting event, you know,

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it's gonna be one that I really
really want to go to. You

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know, I'm we're working out a
plan to go to a Dodger game this

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summer. But it's like one game, right. I bought some tickets for

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a Dodger game at a silent auction
the other day, so I'm going to

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use those, But it means I
got to you know, got to either

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hop in the car, catch a
flight to go catch a game at Dodger

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Stadium. But that you know,
it's it's you know, I mean,

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you know, if I put my
money into you know, going to U

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of A games here in town,
and so that's that's where it goes.

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And if I had more money to
spend on on games, I think the

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w n b A is pretty far
back in the Yeah, and that makes

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sense, of course. Uh and
and just recently it's come come aboard.

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Let me ask you. We talk
a lot about Arizona Athletix, uh,

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all the sports. Obviously when you're
not doing this here, you're out and

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about and so am I. Do
you hear feedback from what we talk about?

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Like some people that would be a
fact, not not just listeners,

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but I'm talking about from people in
the building kind of like, uh,

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you know, hey, you guys
missed on that or hit on that or

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blah blah blah or they're not going
to admit it. I'm going so okay,

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you're you're out about you see someone
who works in Michale or tied to

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Michale. I heard you. The
guys. You guys are spot on or

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not spot on, or they don't
say anything. They mostly don't say anything,

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you know, Like I said told
you, I mean early on when

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when when Desiree refriends. While I
got here, you're hearing rumors about things

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changes that she was making kind of
petty kind of stuff, you know,

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from the people. From the people. Well, none of that's coming to

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Fruition. So you know, the
rumor mail got going about her, and

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none of it's happened, So you
know, it's it's it's been kind of

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interesting as far as that goes,
Hi, you're on the air and I

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on the All yeah, hey,
guys, A quick question, what have

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happened to you? What happened to
you? Have a ticket price and the

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relative the last year. That's good
question. The football tickets went up a

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bit. I my ticket went from
I believe where I sit went from four

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hundred and thirty five to four hundred
and eighty five. I think went up

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fifty bucks or something like that.
Maybe if or twenty it might have even

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gotten a twenty five bucks. I
get two tickets, so I paid an

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extra fifty I'd have to look it
up, but not not enough for me

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to say I'm not doing that for
sure. We got we got to I

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get we got a tailgate pass,
you know for the Michaelon It went from

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four hundred to four to twenty five. Okay, sounds great. All right,

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thank you guys. Okay, you're
very welcome. So you're looking at

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maybe ten percent ten percent. I'll
look it up to to see exactly what

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it was, but I think I
think I went up fifty bucks a ticket

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where I sent in section twenty three, which is about the ten yard line

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on the north west side. NORTHESTI
okay, and so I think that you

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know, it didn't go up tremendously, and you know, I knew it

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was going up, so I didn't, you know, do you think?

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And I think I maybe brought this
up. Either had to be earlier this

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week because I was out last week
that two songs not a rich place,

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right, that they could in the
need of money getting money, they could

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price out some people. And we
talked to Ray yesterday about the demographics and

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the maybe grabbing some more Hispanic audience
not just here but in the south of

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the border where they could price people
out even though they want to get them.

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They have to be careful. They
have to be careful about that because

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you know, Arizona support. Look, basketball for a long time has been

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out of people's price with right and
they and they fill it up and they

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know, you know, so they've
got the demand so they can they can

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charge what they charge. Football has
been a different thing, you know,

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going back to you know, the
five dollars you know, not whole ticket

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and and those kinds of things they're
having, you know, ten dollars uh

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tickets. They've got to be careful
about pricing people out there. Are people

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out here who can pay good money
to go right. They get the fifty

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yard line seats and and the or
the you know, the load seats or

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whatever. But you know, I
think I'm a pretty average fan. You

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know, I I want to I
don't want to sit in the end zone.

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You know, I don't want to
pay the by the cheapest ticket.

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But I'm not you know, I'm
not a fifty yard line person either,

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I said, you know, we're
a I'm a ten ten yard line sit

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high enough where I still got a
good view of close everything. They're good

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seats for us. Plus we've got
other people to think about, uh,

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you know, who can They want
to sit with us, but they don't

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want to spend any more than what
we're spending. So you know, I

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mean really we you know, just
only a few years ago that we were

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set in one section further north,
one section towards the end zone. But

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uh got a little rowdy over there, so we decided to move in one

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and we just thought, you know, let's move let's move in and see

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because so it's it's not they just
have to be careful and because you know,

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okay, so you're gonna sell more
higher price. You're gonna sell higher

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price tickets, but you're not gonna
sell more of them, right, some

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people are gonna leave when it gets
to a certain point. Right, So

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I and I Steve, I'm not
smart enough to know what that problem you

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do that the price line is.
I am not smart enough to know how

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you do that. Yeah. The
one thing that's and I'm sure you go

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shopping more than You're not more than
your wife, but you're you know,

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in addition to your wife. I
go because I go because everything's higher.

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Oh, going to the grocery store
and you kidding me and everything, I

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mean it could be whatever. Go
order a big mac meal at McDonald's.

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It's thirteen dollars. Yeah, yeah, you get out of there, and

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it's give fifteen sixteen bucks there,
Yeah for you, just for you.

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You get you get, you get
a burger, a fry, and a

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coke and it's fifteen bucks at McDonald's. It used to be fifteen bucks to

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go to, you know, a
nice burger joint where you sit down and

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they feed you. Yeah, no, no, I get it. That's

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and that's kind of my point.
Everything's up probably never going to come back

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down. And now you have a
place of people that need to go to

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people who need you guys to go
to the games. And how is that

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gonna happen when if the dollar is
stretched? It's a very dicey place for

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them to be, right now,
It really is, because I think that

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you know, they need the money, no doubt they need the money,

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but you know you charge more,
do you wind up with less? Right?

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Yeah? Right? Which makes it
a wash kind of right, makes

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the wash. Instead of having forty
thousand people, you have thirty eight thousand

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people. So they given of the
same mount and ready a brought another thing.

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And we talked about this a number
of times as people who go to

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the games but don't go to the
games, they go and parties your place

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right, places like yours, right, and then after they go home,

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then they go home. Right.
Yeah, there's a lot of those,

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you know, I mean so many
of those that they had to make a

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rule what you couldn't stay. You
can't stay you if you're tailgating, if

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you're in the tailgate area, you
have to be either in the stadium or

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gone from the tailgate area I think
fifteen minutes after kickoff something like this.

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So they police that, Yeah,
police yeah, yeah they do. You

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know, there were so many people
who would go tailgate, bring a TV,

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stay there party during the game,
and then be there after the game.

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By that time they're drunk and then
the fights breakout. Yeah, but

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they don't let you do that anymore. They cleared the tailgate area. They're

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fifteen or thirty minutes after kickoff.
Okay, imagine all that revenue that could

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be going inside to to have some
fun or at least watching him. No,

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and I know people who do that. You know who I think are

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are pretty decent fans, But I
know there are people who do that,

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and who you know who don't you
know who don't go to the In my

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humble opinion, I think the one
thing to solve that is to obviously win,

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yeah, win some games, win
some games, and for people to

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feel like it's worth their money to
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a game and know you're gonna have
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that they're gonna win, right,
right, and it should be a fun

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season this year. Like you say, basketball sales itself, Football just needs

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to continue to have that trajectory of
moving up, moving up. Okay,

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Okay, let's say we're gonna have
no guests here in the first half,

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although I didn't have one for tomorrow
at the same time, I'll tell you

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on the break, and then in
the second hour, we're gonna have Scott

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Thompson. I ran into him a
couple of weeks ago. He's been on

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the show with the media a couple
of times. I love talking to him.

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He's been everywhere. He's now back
in town. You know, he

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had cancers beat that, He's worked
for a lot of cancer societies. We'll

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see what he's up to and just
get him his take on what's going on

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today. You know he was he
was there when you were there, Yeah,

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covering the team. Yeah, the
first year I covered the team was

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his last year at Arizona. He
took that job at Rice, which,

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as I recall, Luke didn't want
him to take it. He thought he

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could get a better Really, I
didn't know that. Could you bring that

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up to him and to see what
he says, Oh, I see what

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he says. Yeah, he was
a little upset of me because I include

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him in my book. But there's
only twenty five people I could talk to

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everybody, so I apologize, Okay, before we go out there. Just

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to answer your question, my tickets
did go up fifty bucks a ticket.

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They went from three forty per ticket
to three ninety per ticket, three fifty

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bucks. That's about a little more
than fifteen percent fifteen percent, thirteen fifteen

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percent. And then as I mentioned
the uh, the tail, they passed

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one up twenty five bucks and uh, that's yeah, that's what I have.

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Yeah, and that's kind of they
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I'm sure it's a gradual to forty
exactly. And I had again as I

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said, I had no problem with
it. Yeah, I was expecting it.

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Well, and that's your entertainment right
right. You know, football season

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is a big deal to us.
I mean our our whole fall result revolves

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say, don't don't dine, don't
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seventy four forty. I'm just looking
at some predictions for Pig twelve. Well,

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I was gonna say people, there's
probably people out there saying that we're

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a couple of losers because we swent
through a whole first segment and didn't even

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mention the fact that the NBA Draft
is tonight, but tomorrow it starts tonight.

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Oh, just tonight it starts.
That's even worse. No, no,

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no, In fact, because it's
always thought on Thursday, I know

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that's funny. But because because they
they two days, it's two days now.

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Yeah, that's funny. Because I've
been trying to reach out to scouts

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and to people to have them.
I was waiting for you to say,

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oh, in the NBA Draft,
No, no, because I was ready

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for tomorrow. So it's one change. Because it's two days, I didn't

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know what's on Wednesday. The first
round is tonight. Okay, I spent

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fifteen minutes boning up on it today
because I was trying to reach out to

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some people that and they didn't Well, you know, look I mentioned a

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million times I'm not a huge NBA
fan. I do pay attention to the

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draft, largely because because there's usually
Arizona guys in it, right, I

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can't. I've had so little interest
in this draft because I've never even heard

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of the guy who's going to be
the number one. Bad draft. It's

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a bad draft. Yeah, quality
of draft is number good, should be

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good. I mean I go down
the list, and okay, I've heard

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of Reed Shepherd at from coming out
of Kentucky, the two the two Yukon

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guys that are supposed to be in
the top five or top six. And

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then and then I go down a
little further and I wonder, why did

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Colorado suck when they've got two guys
who are supposed to drafted in the top

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fifteen or sixty two guys sposed to
go Cody Williams, who to this,

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I still say, you know,
I saw him play three times, you

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know, three times against Arizona,
just once on TV once here, and

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well I saw more than once I
saw him, you know, all their

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games that at the PAC twelve tournament, and they kept saying he's a he's

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a high number one picking up hig
first round picking. I'm like, why,

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yeah, Henry, do you have
an opinion on that? I feel

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like every time Arizona played them,
all the broadcasts would talk about was just

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how his potential? Yeah, I
remember because he was a skinny guy,

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right, yeah, guy? But
did theydn't even look any good? It's

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all about potential, yeah, I
mean I argued that he I don't know

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that he would even start at Arizona. Yeah, it's all about potential.

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Let me give you this bet.
Apparently I made. It happened in January.

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I guess, well, I'll get
to that. So which way would

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you go with this twenty bucks?
Who would be drafted higher? Johnson or

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pell U from Arizona? I would
have I would have taken Keisha Johnson.

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Okay, so apparently I took a
pele? Okay, why you don't know?

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Bryan Peterson Byan Peterson sent me a
note about a month ago after I

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just Johnson had a good combat,
right, and he says, okay,

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you want to pay me now or
payment. I'm thinking, what are you

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talking about? This is well,
we made that bet that says we did

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this is what. I have a
third party that's uh, that witnessed it.

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I said, okay, and so
I guess Johnson had a good Yeah.

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But then a week later Pelly had
a good timeline. So I'm thinking,

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I like my bet, so whatever. But truthfully, I told them

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I don't remember the bet because I
don't think either of them are going to

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get drafted. They might be drafted, but I'm not sure they will.

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I think at this point both of
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second round. I don't know.
With with key shot going high in the

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second round, we'll like like in
the thirties. Yeah, we'll see that.

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I'm down twenty. I have a
number four. That happens, number

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four? What's next? No,
that's that's this is this is just a

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friendly your bet. You're betting,
you're betting, and then don't even remember

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betting. That's that's the gambling problem, right, And usually you remember stuff

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like that because because well, first, like I said, I didn't think

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either of them were going to be
drafted. In fact, it probably would

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be best if they didn't so they
can go to the team that wants them.

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Honestly, look always Having said all
that, I don't even know how

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much attention I will pay to the
draft as a as a talk show person.

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Here we have to talk and we
need to talk about it. But

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again, I don't know who these
guys are. Yeah, a lot of

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international again, yeah, but international
guys, Henry, you know, I

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don't know. Yeah, So I
we'll see. But it starts five o'clock.

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By the way, Steve our time. Okay, I'm going to rush

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and race home and catch and catch
the whole draft. I don't think so.

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And then the second round is tomorrow. That's where I think, you

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know, we'll hear about the U
of a guys. Although at one point

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did I not see a box draft
where key Shot was actually late first round?

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The highest I saw him was like
thirty five, So maybe there was

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one who was it? Draft Kings, Draft, net, Draft, NBA

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draft I used to do all the
time, and I got I used to

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do that all the time. Aftually
covered the team and some dude, uh

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realistic he sent some me know you're
you're using your sources as a as this

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with a bunch of kids who are
doing the mocks us as well. If

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you have a better one, you
can let me. And it's turned into

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a butterfly business. It's a business, definitely business, and it's not exact

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science because they say this and say
that it works and something. Well,

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the one I've been looking at has
been on the NBA website. They somebody

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there pulled together all the all the
mock drafts and did like a like a

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like an eight people, you know, accumulated all the you know, all

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00:26:33.880 --> 00:26:38.759
the votes, and they've got they
got this kid from from France going first,

408
00:26:40.319 --> 00:26:45.680
Zachary Researcher something like that, going
to the Hawks, a six y

409
00:26:45.759 --> 00:26:53.759
nine guy, and then a dude
from Australia, Alexander Sar going second,

410
00:26:53.799 --> 00:26:57.519
and then Read Shepherd to the Kentucky
point Wow. Which is a surprise to

411
00:26:57.559 --> 00:27:03.079
me that he would go third of
this Kentucky point guard because he he jumped

412
00:27:03.799 --> 00:27:07.559
man man. Okay, we'll see. But so you you take the Johnson

413
00:27:07.599 --> 00:27:10.200
pick, I would take the Pelli
pick. I would take neither pick.

414
00:27:10.400 --> 00:27:12.759
But I will say, I think
back then, when when did you make

415
00:27:12.799 --> 00:27:17.400
that bad? Yes, January,
I might have taken Palette, I don't

416
00:27:17.400 --> 00:27:22.160
know, you know, it had
been a tough gut. Somebody would ask

417
00:27:22.200 --> 00:27:23.119
me to bet that. I don't
know that I would have even bet it

418
00:27:23.119 --> 00:27:26.720
because I'm, you know, so
uncertain. I might have done it for

419
00:27:26.759 --> 00:27:29.319
giggles. If I might have said, Okay, you pick one and I'll

420
00:27:29.359 --> 00:27:30.240
take the other. Yeah, well
I could have done it too. I

421
00:27:30.480 --> 00:27:34.079
don't remember. But we'll see what
happens. Good luck to each of them,

422
00:27:34.319 --> 00:27:37.519
you know, each of one,
because we we we'll see what happens.

423
00:27:37.799 --> 00:27:40.440
Now, if you ask me who
I think has got the best shot

424
00:27:41.319 --> 00:27:44.799
of making the team, I think
it's Keisha Johnson hands down. You know

425
00:27:44.920 --> 00:27:48.480
he's got he's got more of the
physical uh skills. By that, I

426
00:27:48.519 --> 00:27:53.400
mean he's a more physical player,
athletic, you know, athletic than then

427
00:27:53.599 --> 00:27:57.480
then then Pala Palas. You know, a better shooter if you can make

428
00:27:57.519 --> 00:28:02.279
yourself and even in better shooter,
you know, he would have a chance.

429
00:28:02.680 --> 00:28:06.359
He's a good defensive player. But
you know, neither of those guys

430
00:28:06.359 --> 00:28:10.759
are are a height that with the
skills that match with the skills they have,

431
00:28:10.839 --> 00:28:12.720
as they would need and they either
need to be a little taller,

432
00:28:14.519 --> 00:28:18.279
you know, or with the skills
that they have or shoot, they would

433
00:28:18.319 --> 00:28:22.519
need to be a little quicker to
play on the other side, to be

434
00:28:22.559 --> 00:28:25.440
as tall as they are and play, you know'll be a two or three

435
00:28:25.559 --> 00:28:29.359
and need to shoot be better shooters. So they're kind of in between.

436
00:28:29.559 --> 00:28:33.759
They have big man skills, but
they're not really big man as it relates

437
00:28:33.759 --> 00:28:38.160
to the NBA Big Man. We'll
see right after the show begins, right

438
00:28:38.720 --> 00:28:44.119
shows it begins after the show in
Okay, we'll keep We'll see what happens

439
00:28:44.920 --> 00:28:48.640
throughout tomorrow too, because tomorrow will
be the day when it starts five tomorrow

440
00:28:48.680 --> 00:28:53.880
to okay, probably eight o'clock Eastern
time. Okay, we'll see that.

441
00:28:55.200 --> 00:28:59.200
We're going back to regular schedule,
regular schedule program. I tell you you're

442
00:28:59.200 --> 00:29:02.759
bringing up what I want to bring
this up, and blah blah blah.

443
00:29:03.119 --> 00:29:06.799
Maybe someone can call us because I
totally forgot. Oh, the Big twelve,

444
00:29:06.920 --> 00:29:08.720
the Big twelve. They had some
Big twelve and they went to the

445
00:29:08.759 --> 00:29:12.039
Big twelve over unders. Blah blah
blah. This came out about two hours

446
00:29:12.039 --> 00:29:15.039
ago, about three hours ago.
Yeah, Big twelve. It says win

447
00:29:15.160 --> 00:29:19.119
totals, odds picks predictions for every
team. Utah Kansas make a case for

448
00:29:19.200 --> 00:29:25.200
contention. Arizona went over under eight
wins? What are they doing over on

449
00:29:25.319 --> 00:29:27.599
eight wins? Wins that in New
Mexico or against New Mexico, NAU,

450
00:29:29.119 --> 00:29:33.039
Texas Tech. That't three at b
y U four, Colorado five, West

451
00:29:33.119 --> 00:29:37.599
Virginia six, Houston seventh, Arizona
State eight, lost us to Kansas State,

452
00:29:38.240 --> 00:29:45.480
UTAH UCF and at TCU. Wow. Okay, that's kind of legit,

453
00:29:45.799 --> 00:29:48.960
isn't it. Yeah? I mean
yeah, I mean that that.

454
00:29:48.720 --> 00:29:53.240
You know, that's a all of
those are reasonable, right? You know

455
00:29:53.279 --> 00:30:02.680
whenning at BYU, that sounds that
sounds tough. That's a tough one.

456
00:30:02.680 --> 00:30:06.640
That that I that that's gonna be
that Washington State game from last year,

457
00:30:06.720 --> 00:30:08.640
right where we said, okay,
if they be Washington State, now things

458
00:30:08.640 --> 00:30:15.079
start to happen and that and that's
what happened. I think that the B

459
00:30:15.200 --> 00:30:18.920
why B why boy is gonna be
hard every year and I hate that about

460
00:30:18.920 --> 00:30:25.240
that. You could really so where
where did you see this? It's it's

461
00:30:25.279 --> 00:30:30.359
on ms N. It's MSN real
quick, But realistically, I think that's

462
00:30:30.440 --> 00:30:34.240
that's about right because everyone's gonna be
good to well, not everyone. A

463
00:30:34.240 --> 00:30:38.359
lot of the teams are gonna be
good, you know, the again and

464
00:30:38.400 --> 00:30:42.680
the for Arizona fans, you've got
to realize, Okay, you know from

465
00:30:42.720 --> 00:30:47.960
where we've sat in the in the
big bad PAC twelve. You know,

466
00:30:48.519 --> 00:30:56.079
teams like Central Florida, Kansas State, Kansas even to a degree, Texas

467
00:30:56.160 --> 00:31:00.960
Tech. I think there's some kind
of Arizona fans think those programs aren't as

468
00:31:00.960 --> 00:31:04.359
good if they are right, they
don't realize how good those programs are.

469
00:31:06.039 --> 00:31:10.519
And you know, you know,
we're gonna have to get used to the

470
00:31:10.519 --> 00:31:14.839
fact that Arizone is gonna lose some
games to some teams that you think they

471
00:31:14.839 --> 00:31:18.680
shouldn't lose games to. This is
you can't. You don't always win games

472
00:31:18.680 --> 00:31:23.000
on paper, and you just by
perception perception you think, oh no,

473
00:31:23.079 --> 00:31:27.160
not necessarily Because I bring this point
up like two years ago for the Final

474
00:31:27.200 --> 00:31:32.839
four and the Florida team Florida International, Yeah, who do you right?

475
00:31:32.839 --> 00:31:34.160
Who you about them at all?
And then they finally played in front of

476
00:31:34.160 --> 00:31:37.079
you. He says, oh these
good They were pretty damn And then you

477
00:31:37.119 --> 00:31:40.160
think, where did these guys come
from? Well, they've been there.

478
00:31:40.200 --> 00:31:41.599
You just didn't notice them, We
didn't You didn't see him right, And

479
00:31:41.720 --> 00:31:45.599
you know, and I know I
know Arizona fans thumb their nose that by

480
00:31:45.720 --> 00:31:49.480
you, because you know what,
we went to the PAC twelve and by

481
00:31:49.559 --> 00:31:56.400
you didn't, right, And so
I think that you know, fans are

482
00:31:56.440 --> 00:32:00.279
gonna have to get you know,
kind of readjust their thinking about, uh,

483
00:32:00.559 --> 00:32:04.799
some of these programs that they've kind
of looked at from a distance and

484
00:32:04.839 --> 00:32:08.000
not realized that while you know,
we were playing USC and u C l

485
00:32:08.039 --> 00:32:12.000
A and those teams, those are
the programs were getting pretty good. I

486
00:32:12.000 --> 00:32:15.720
mean Central Florida had an undefeated season
a few years ago and remember and they

487
00:32:15.720 --> 00:32:20.240
claimed that they were, you know, national champions. So did you get

488
00:32:20.240 --> 00:32:22.720
it? Get it? So talking
about Kansas having eight wins, uh,

489
00:32:22.839 --> 00:32:30.000
Kansas State nine and a half,
Pogloma State eight, that that Kansas State

490
00:32:30.039 --> 00:32:32.920
game is a is a perfect example
of what I'm talking about. Arizona fan

491
00:32:34.079 --> 00:32:37.160
just thinks Kansas State can't be that
good. Sure, that's a loss right

492
00:32:37.200 --> 00:32:42.640
now. If you're if you're would
you say ten points nine if you're penciling

493
00:32:42.680 --> 00:32:45.880
in you know, if you're looking
at Arizona scheduled penciling in wins and losses,

494
00:32:45.079 --> 00:32:50.039
and you penciled that in as a
WU his reputation, Yeah, you're

495
00:32:50.079 --> 00:32:52.480
you're you're you know, you're,
you're, you're, you're you're not thinking

496
00:32:52.559 --> 00:32:57.359
right, So I think that it's
a it's a uh, you know,

497
00:32:57.440 --> 00:33:00.119
there's gonna be some time for Arizona
and it's gonna have to get used to,

498
00:33:00.920 --> 00:33:04.799
you know, who's good and who's
not. You know, and Arizona

499
00:33:04.799 --> 00:33:07.359
could be could lose two in a
row, going to going to Kansas State

500
00:33:07.359 --> 00:33:08.759
and then going to Utah the week
after that, and all of a sudden,

501
00:33:08.759 --> 00:33:10.240
you're two and two and you're going, wait a minute, I thought

502
00:33:10.240 --> 00:33:13.480
we were going to be good.
You're well, they can still be good.

503
00:33:13.720 --> 00:33:15.279
Yeah, but those are those are
two of their hardest games of the

504
00:33:15.359 --> 00:33:21.440
year. Yeah, thanks, yeah, yeah, give us a quick call

505
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back. Actually, you don't wait
till we go to take a break,

506
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Yeah, and won't come back because
we won't to have a minute. Yeah,

507
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or about a minute. Actually,
let's just you want to just go

508
00:33:28.880 --> 00:33:30.599
out, Yeah, let's go and
let's take our break now, and you

509
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can give us a call it give
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510
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543
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544
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oh four, one sixty then we'll
get right back with you. So as

545
00:36:00.599 --> 00:36:04.280
we as we were going out,
we were talking about win totals in Arizona's

546
00:36:04.320 --> 00:36:07.400
win total, and I'm looking at
the schedule and looking at the games that

547
00:36:07.400 --> 00:36:14.480
they pick, and the the this
is from MSN dot com. They've got

548
00:36:14.519 --> 00:36:17.199
Arizona losing four road games. You
look at the four road games and you

549
00:36:17.280 --> 00:36:21.719
go, okay, yeah, I
can't I can't argue with those at Kansas

550
00:36:21.719 --> 00:36:24.920
State, at Utah, at Central
Florida and at TCU. That Central Florida

551
00:36:24.960 --> 00:36:30.480
game. I think they're going across
the country. It's gonna be in November.

552
00:36:30.039 --> 00:36:34.519
Uh, you know, depending on
what time that game is. That's

553
00:36:34.559 --> 00:36:38.639
a tough that's a tough place for
Arizona to go at that time. Uh,

554
00:36:38.960 --> 00:36:43.719
you know, to go play a
game you know, three times essentially

555
00:36:43.719 --> 00:36:46.159
three time zones away because we're actually
in the Pacific times though, but no,

556
00:36:46.480 --> 00:36:50.159
by that time we were back on
their back off daylight saving times.

557
00:36:50.239 --> 00:36:52.880
It's a two hour difference. But
nonetheless, you know, going to the

558
00:36:52.920 --> 00:36:54.719
East Coast for a game is going
to be hard every year that they have

559
00:36:54.840 --> 00:36:59.360
to do it. So now West
Virginia they have to come here, so

560
00:36:59.639 --> 00:37:00.880
you know that it's gonna be hard
on them. But you know, the

561
00:37:00.920 --> 00:37:05.679
only road game they've got Arizona winning
is at BYU, and that's gonna be

562
00:37:05.719 --> 00:37:08.039
a hard game to win. It
just is, and it's gonna be a

563
00:37:08.039 --> 00:37:14.519
hard game for for Arizona to win, you know. Ever, so I

564
00:37:14.599 --> 00:37:17.000
don't know. Yeah, well we'll
see what happens as when you get closer

565
00:37:17.039 --> 00:37:21.400
to the to the games. I
do think that there's a lot of optimism

566
00:37:21.440 --> 00:37:23.840
with the guys he's getting. Yeah, the guys he has, it's gonna

567
00:37:23.840 --> 00:37:29.079
be a great, a very good
offense. Okay, let's take this.

568
00:37:29.159 --> 00:37:31.719
Okay, Hi, you're on the
air and eye on the ball. Hey

569
00:37:31.719 --> 00:37:34.880
it's Richard. How you guys are
doing today? What's up? Richard?

570
00:37:34.880 --> 00:37:38.159
How's it going? Hey? That
did I hear you correct to say that

571
00:37:38.280 --> 00:37:42.960
Arizona was a nine point dog versus
Kansas State? Yes, they are.

572
00:37:43.639 --> 00:37:45.519
Well, I'm definitely getting ready to
put some money on Arizona in that game.

573
00:37:46.400 --> 00:37:50.239
I think Arizona's gonna win that game. You think, so okay,

574
00:37:50.480 --> 00:37:52.880
you know, oh yeah, come
on, now, Kansas State has got

575
00:37:52.920 --> 00:37:55.519
a new quarterback and they're gonna be
real jacked up around the guy. He's

576
00:37:55.559 --> 00:38:00.800
real good. But it doesn't matter. Arizona's got the best quarterback and a

577
00:38:00.920 --> 00:38:04.880
veteran offensive line, veteran defense.
They've just come off the Oklahoma win.

578
00:38:06.079 --> 00:38:09.159
Arizona's coming in under the radar right
now, So I think this is a

579
00:38:09.159 --> 00:38:14.760
really good bet. All right,
Well, look, I think Jay just

580
00:38:14.800 --> 00:38:19.280
will get on King. No,
I'm just I'm just I saw that.

581
00:38:19.400 --> 00:38:24.199
I saw that. I saw that
line. Uh you mentioned there was a

582
00:38:24.239 --> 00:38:30.360
there was a there was a column
about like the top twenty under the radar

583
00:38:30.559 --> 00:38:35.280
games that people aren't really talking about, with that one being with that with

584
00:38:35.360 --> 00:38:38.280
the Kansas State Arizona game being one
of them, and and it had the

585
00:38:38.320 --> 00:38:43.360
line at the Kansas State minus nine. So I'm looking to see if that,

586
00:38:43.440 --> 00:38:45.639
in fact is the number. I'm
looking on DraftKings to see if you

587
00:38:45.639 --> 00:38:50.199
can actually bet that right now,
that's ridiculous, and come on, Arizona

588
00:38:50.280 --> 00:38:53.360
is going to be all fired up
and focused on the road. Those four

589
00:38:53.400 --> 00:38:57.159
Kansas State fans are going to be
in for a little surprise, I think.

590
00:38:57.880 --> 00:39:00.760
Well, I also, you know, I do. Yeah, it's

591
00:39:00.800 --> 00:39:01.920
a long way to go. Guys. Why in the world is Mom Soon

592
00:39:02.119 --> 00:39:05.519
doing here in June? Okay,
I see it and I found it now

593
00:39:05.559 --> 00:39:09.400
on DraftKings. It's on DraftKings.
Remember it's a Friday night game. Uh

594
00:39:09.880 --> 00:39:15.119
and they've got it at uh Kansas
State minus seven and a half. Okay,

595
00:39:15.519 --> 00:39:22.880
drafting quickly, Yeah, so many
DraftKings heard the show and the light

596
00:39:22.039 --> 00:39:28.840
just drive Well anyway, I don't
think Arizona can win that game. What

597
00:39:28.880 --> 00:39:31.119
do you think? What do you
think about the eight wins? The eight

598
00:39:31.159 --> 00:39:37.559
wins over under for Arizona? I'd
say over yeah, okay, oh yeah

599
00:39:37.840 --> 00:39:44.239
sure Richard. All this time I
thought you're this pragmatic guy that said all

600
00:39:44.280 --> 00:39:46.039
the time, No, actually I
agree with you. I agree with you.

601
00:39:46.119 --> 00:39:50.559
It's going to be eight or over
eight or over right now? What

602
00:39:50.599 --> 00:39:52.719
do you think about the Sooners down
in the SEC? How many games do

603
00:39:52.800 --> 00:39:57.239
you think they don't win? Do
you think they can make the playoffs?

604
00:39:58.320 --> 00:40:02.079
Playoffs? The bad mood moved for
Oklahoma to go to the SEC. Well,

605
00:40:02.119 --> 00:40:05.840
I thought I thought it was a
bad move for Oklahoma. I kind

606
00:40:05.840 --> 00:40:08.519
of put them similar to to U. C. L A. They got

607
00:40:08.599 --> 00:40:14.920
dragged to the SEC by Texas,
and so, you know, I don't

608
00:40:14.920 --> 00:40:17.239
think they I don't think they're Well, it's gonna be interesting to see if

609
00:40:17.280 --> 00:40:22.119
their heart is really in it,
because you know, I imagine they would

610
00:40:22.119 --> 00:40:24.800
have rather have stayed, you know, in the Big Twelve where they were.

611
00:40:25.880 --> 00:40:29.920
I mean, it was stupid,
I think, but we'll see.

612
00:40:30.119 --> 00:40:31.880
I mean, I'm not excited about
joining the SEC. I can go.

613
00:40:32.039 --> 00:40:36.559
I'm not excited. Are you guys
excited about joining the Big twelve? Yeah?

614
00:40:36.679 --> 00:40:40.719
I am only in the only only
only in the context to me,

615
00:40:42.159 --> 00:40:45.559
Richard, only in the context of
if the PAC twelve was gonna die,

616
00:40:45.960 --> 00:40:50.360
which it did, then I'm happy
with where they ended up. I'd rather

617
00:40:50.519 --> 00:40:54.199
the PAC twelve didn't die. Richard, Richard, I never get excited.

618
00:40:54.280 --> 00:41:01.599
Let me get excited, Richard.
You don't, you know, don't more

619
00:41:01.639 --> 00:41:06.639
than the Mexico blood. You're not
excited. You're very skeptical about don't.

620
00:41:06.719 --> 00:41:15.119
Don't rain on my parade, man, I really like it. Thank you,

621
00:41:15.280 --> 00:41:17.719
Thank you, know, I think
we have to qualify about, you

622
00:41:17.760 --> 00:41:21.719
know, the whole idea of being
excited about Arizona being in the PAC twelve.

623
00:41:22.360 --> 00:41:24.519
I'd rather they not be there the
big pub. I'd rather they not

624
00:41:24.599 --> 00:41:28.360
be there. I'd rather they be
in the Packed one. Sure, given

625
00:41:28.400 --> 00:41:31.280
the choice, but given given the
choice of you know, once the PAC

626
00:41:31.360 --> 00:41:36.599
twelve was killed, Yeah, I'm
excited about where we are. And again

627
00:41:36.639 --> 00:41:39.039
I've you know, said before,
because I think Arizona can be very competitive

628
00:41:39.079 --> 00:41:43.719
in this league, more competitive than
on a regular basis than they were in

629
00:41:43.719 --> 00:41:46.519
the Packed once. The newness and
the new newness is part of the charm

630
00:41:46.719 --> 00:41:50.400
because we don't know what to expect. It's gonna be cool, a lot

631
00:41:50.440 --> 00:41:52.159
of fun. And then once they
get established that you're gonna say, hey,

632
00:41:52.199 --> 00:41:55.679
you know what, it may have
turned out okay, especially in football

633
00:41:55.840 --> 00:41:59.760
in basketball, it's gonna be fun, it's gonna be competitive. Itzone was

634
00:41:59.800 --> 00:42:02.599
gonna get their butts knocked around in
basketball, but it's gonna make them tougher

635
00:42:02.760 --> 00:42:07.639
and they could be better when it
matters. Don't you agree? I agree?

636
00:42:07.719 --> 00:42:10.280
I agree, Steve. I think
I think baseball, I don't know.

637
00:42:10.840 --> 00:42:15.599
The other sports, I don't know
softball baseball I think is kind of

638
00:42:15.599 --> 00:42:20.159
a wash. Basically softball, same
softball, same Yeah. But I think

639
00:42:20.199 --> 00:42:22.519
that, you know, and a
lot of a lot of this has to

640
00:42:22.519 --> 00:42:24.760
do with the fact that you know, Oklahoma and Texas are gone. They're

641
00:42:25.039 --> 00:42:29.320
they're not in that league anymore.
So if the league kind of becomes wide

642
00:42:29.360 --> 00:42:31.320
open, I mean, I think
I believe Utah is going to be the

643
00:42:31.320 --> 00:42:36.440
favorite to win the league, you
know, to win the Big Twelve and

644
00:42:36.519 --> 00:42:40.239
football, whether Arizona, I think
Arizona will probably be the third or fourth

645
00:42:40.239 --> 00:42:45.519
pick to win. In basketball.
I think part of that is going to

646
00:42:45.599 --> 00:42:51.440
be some bias on the part of
the Big Twelve media who they're going to

647
00:42:51.519 --> 00:42:57.000
kind of go with what's familiar to
that, right, you know, part

648
00:42:57.039 --> 00:42:59.960
of it's gonna be the schedule too, you know, who plays who?

649
00:43:00.760 --> 00:43:04.639
Because right, with more teams,
there's fewer teams that you play twice.

650
00:43:05.159 --> 00:43:07.960
Yeah, so you know, is
there Zone gonna play Kansas twice or not?

651
00:43:07.360 --> 00:43:10.760
Is there zonly gonna play Baylor twice
or not? Is There Zone gonna

652
00:43:10.760 --> 00:43:15.880
play Texas Tech and Houston twice or
not? Those things are gonna matter in

653
00:43:16.000 --> 00:43:20.440
terms of you know, where you
you're actually gonna have to look at the

654
00:43:20.480 --> 00:43:25.320
schedule to decide what place where you're
gonna predict teams to finish. Because let's

655
00:43:25.320 --> 00:43:30.159
say Kansas doesn't have to play Arizona
two times, doesn't have to play Baylor

656
00:43:30.159 --> 00:43:31.519
two times, doesn't have to play
Houston two times. Well, then if

657
00:43:31.559 --> 00:43:35.239
they're you know who they have to
play two times and can they lose those

658
00:43:35.239 --> 00:43:37.519
games? So all that all that's
gonna matter when it comes to basketball.

659
00:43:38.199 --> 00:43:40.840
It's gonna be fun, I think
if you don't have tickets to try again.

660
00:43:42.239 --> 00:43:45.679
Yeah, but uh, yeah,
it's I'm mad at myself, Steve,

661
00:43:45.679 --> 00:43:47.559
because remember while back we talked about
the over under total on Arizona.

662
00:43:47.599 --> 00:43:54.719
It was seven and a half and
I didn't bet it. Yeah, it's

663
00:43:54.719 --> 00:43:57.920
a push of at set eight,
right, it's a push, Yeah,

664
00:43:58.039 --> 00:44:00.760
I think I would go over just
say you say, yeah, well,

665
00:44:00.960 --> 00:44:05.400
everyone has to stay healthy of course, of course. Yeah, and right

666
00:44:05.400 --> 00:44:08.320
now Mac is not right and the
no one needs to stay healthy for sure.

667
00:44:09.039 --> 00:44:13.159
Uh, and then we'll see what
happens. You know. Health of

668
00:44:13.199 --> 00:44:15.760
the team obviously needs yeah, to
be fun and that that goes with anybody,

669
00:44:15.800 --> 00:44:17.960
any team. I like. I
like that. I'm looking at the

670
00:44:19.039 --> 00:44:22.920
DraftKings page in Washington is right above
Arizona on the list, and they're over

671
00:44:23.000 --> 00:44:27.880
under six and a half. I
like that. Yeah, go under.

672
00:44:28.440 --> 00:44:30.920
There's a bet you can make on
DraftKings. I think who's gonna have more

673
00:44:30.960 --> 00:44:37.079
wins Arizona or Washington something like that, or it's probably Arizona's probably like probably

674
00:44:37.079 --> 00:44:38.840
minus one and a half or something
like that. I would go with Arizona.

675
00:44:38.880 --> 00:44:43.039
Woul't you? Oh, here we
go match ups? Okay, look,

676
00:44:43.079 --> 00:44:45.360
I'll look that up. There might
be some interesting ones here. You're

677
00:44:45.400 --> 00:44:54.159
on Draft Kings senor Henry not really, not really, that's a good Okay,

678
00:44:54.199 --> 00:44:59.880
here it is Arizona is minus two
forty five to have more wins than

679
00:45:00.239 --> 00:45:02.599
that's not a good number. I
don't like that number. Yeah, they're

680
00:45:02.679 --> 00:45:08.800
minus or their plus one oh five
to have more wins than Kansas. So

681
00:45:08.840 --> 00:45:13.360
that's an interesting that's yeah, that's
I think they're picked to finished both of

682
00:45:13.360 --> 00:45:17.159
with eight but two forty five minus
two forty five Washington, So Washington,

683
00:45:17.199 --> 00:45:21.320
that's not a good number. So
you have to be that's not a good

684
00:45:21.400 --> 00:45:27.119
number. Let's see there's another one. No, those are the only two

685
00:45:27.119 --> 00:45:31.800
that you can bet those matchups I
I wish you could buy I wish you

686
00:45:31.840 --> 00:45:36.639
could buy that. You know that
spread a little bit right where you can

687
00:45:36.679 --> 00:45:38.480
say, okay, Arizona minus one
and a half to get to more of

688
00:45:38.480 --> 00:45:43.039
an even even odds. That's a
kind of thing that that would be more

689
00:45:43.079 --> 00:45:47.719
fun. Okay, here here,
okay, here's one on the exact wins.

690
00:45:49.199 --> 00:45:54.039
Let's see if if Arizona's on this
page the exact number of wins.

691
00:45:55.639 --> 00:45:59.800
I don't see that. Okay,
well you're doing that. I'm gonna look

692
00:45:59.800 --> 00:46:04.880
something that I took a photo of
today, just that thought it was interesting

693
00:46:04.960 --> 00:46:09.519
on your Twitter thing. Uh,
and this is the best college programs developing

694
00:46:09.719 --> 00:46:14.960
NBA players given today's draft. Saw
that best college and what did you think?

695
00:46:15.639 --> 00:46:17.320
Well, I saw I just saw
that Arizona was like fifth or something

696
00:46:17.360 --> 00:46:22.719
like that. They're not on my
list. This was John Canton. The

697
00:46:22.719 --> 00:46:28.079
best college programs are developing NBA players, according to Fox Sports and research in

698
00:46:28.119 --> 00:46:30.119
Arizona's not on the list. No, let me give you this list,

699
00:46:30.880 --> 00:46:37.400
us LA, Duke, Kansas,
Kentucky, Gonzaga, Villanova, USC,

700
00:46:37.960 --> 00:46:44.639
Michigan, Arkansas makes no sense because
Arizona's got like as as like third or

701
00:46:44.679 --> 00:46:47.239
fourth in number of NBA players no
sense. You know a number of players

702
00:46:47.239 --> 00:46:52.519
in the league, aren't they I
don't know about those numbers, but it

703
00:46:52.519 --> 00:46:59.000
does doesn't talk about developing. Developing
is exactly the key. Kentucky Calipari.

704
00:46:59.320 --> 00:47:01.559
He he didn't develop them, He
didn't develop them. They just came in

705
00:47:01.599 --> 00:47:05.760
and left. They came in,
they had somewhere, they needed somewhere to

706
00:47:05.800 --> 00:47:08.159
go to spend on the year and
then go. They were already NBA ready

707
00:47:08.840 --> 00:47:13.320
if they were good enough. This
this thing, I'm thinking, I gotta

708
00:47:13.440 --> 00:47:15.760
take this because it makes no sense. U c l A who they had

709
00:47:15.800 --> 00:47:21.079
your your guy and that was about
it. Well, how far back are

710
00:47:21.079 --> 00:47:25.079
they going? Well, apparently a
long time, because it's it's not right

711
00:47:25.360 --> 00:47:29.679
if they go back a really long
time. Arizona deserves to be on that

712
00:47:29.800 --> 00:47:35.559
list because Arizona, if anything was
under Loot was a factory for NBA because

713
00:47:35.559 --> 00:47:38.119
they we even talked to Uh was
it Sean? I can't remember that.

714
00:47:38.719 --> 00:47:42.840
If there's one thing about Arizona and
Loot, he got him ready for the

715
00:47:42.920 --> 00:47:47.039
NBA. Look Tobert Is Tolbert Judd
Buschler. These guys ready for the were

716
00:47:47.039 --> 00:47:51.239
they NBA guys? He got him
ready for the NBA. Come on,

717
00:47:52.679 --> 00:47:57.360
Channing Fry, Yeah he was he
developed into an NBA. Yeah, I

718
00:47:57.400 --> 00:48:00.920
mean he wasn't even a great college
exactly right, so he knew what to

719
00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:04.239
do and he started here. They
weren't They just didn't show up here,

720
00:48:04.320 --> 00:48:07.519
play and then leave. They got
better here. You know. It wasn't

721
00:48:07.559 --> 00:48:13.239
like and doesn't it and doesn't Arizona
have like the third or fourth most players

722
00:48:13.239 --> 00:48:15.800
with a championship and stuff like that? Let me thank Steve Kerry. Well,

723
00:48:15.840 --> 00:48:19.599
yeah, but it's nonetheless. Yeah, I don't know, I don't

724
00:48:19.599 --> 00:48:22.400
know the number that, but it
sounds right. It sounds right. But

725
00:48:22.639 --> 00:48:24.360
this list to me, I said, holy crap, this makes no sense.

726
00:48:24.400 --> 00:48:29.119
And who put that list out?
I had it just now hold on,

727
00:48:29.119 --> 00:48:34.239
it was according to to Fox Sports
research John Fantom put it. What

728
00:48:34.239 --> 00:48:37.000
do you guess he was just retweeting
this? What do you guys think?

729
00:48:37.000 --> 00:48:39.760
And I think it's a bunch of
crap. Gonzagat really maybe in the last

730
00:48:39.760 --> 00:48:45.719
few years, but not over time. Yeah, it'd be interesting to know

731
00:48:45.760 --> 00:48:51.480
what that criteria is because it doesn't
sound to it doesn't sound sound this is

732
00:48:51.519 --> 00:48:54.159
this is exactly what we talk about
when we get these lists who's doing it

733
00:48:54.199 --> 00:48:59.639
and what what basement are doing it? From right and right? And you

734
00:48:59.639 --> 00:49:02.159
know it's obviously things like that are
pretty subjective, so so who knows.

735
00:49:02.159 --> 00:49:07.039
But I if you say, all
he's at the top of that list.

736
00:49:07.159 --> 00:49:08.960
I mean again, my question becomes, how far back are you going?

737
00:49:09.159 --> 00:49:14.159
Are you going back to the Van
Holland days when you know, when Kevin

738
00:49:14.239 --> 00:49:19.679
Love and uh and uh the dude, yeah, the guard uh Werook Westbrog,

739
00:49:19.760 --> 00:49:22.000
Yeah, Russell Westbrook and those guys
were coming out of the coming into

740
00:49:22.000 --> 00:49:25.519
the league. In fact, his
photos on that on that this thing,

741
00:49:25.599 --> 00:49:29.639
this Twitter thing. Yeah, but
that's twenty almost twenty years ago now,

742
00:49:29.920 --> 00:49:34.079
twenty years ago now, but still
Arizona in that in that twenty years,

743
00:49:34.079 --> 00:49:37.639
it had to be one of the
top top program. Yeah. Well during

744
00:49:37.639 --> 00:49:40.559
Gordon, there's some other ones,
you know, including the ones that we

745
00:49:40.559 --> 00:49:44.559
didn't think even should be drafted.
Who get who got drafted and played?

746
00:49:45.159 --> 00:49:46.760
I still do. I still can't
believe Josh Green is in the league.

747
00:49:47.280 --> 00:49:51.800
I really can't. And again and
he didn't develop here Mark right Marek credit

748
00:49:51.880 --> 00:49:54.320
to him that he has developed and
he's a solid player, you know with

749
00:49:54.400 --> 00:49:59.599
the Mavericks, you know, Zeke
Naji. I mean those guys, I

750
00:49:59.599 --> 00:50:01.960
mean they were good, but they
didn't look like NBA guys to me while

751
00:50:01.960 --> 00:50:06.199
they were here. So but again
we didn't see him for very long.

752
00:50:06.800 --> 00:50:08.800
And and then because you know what
he played in the style that that's not

753
00:50:08.920 --> 00:50:14.400
what they play, right Sean did
there there is that and Nico could have

754
00:50:14.519 --> 00:50:16.880
very well been one of those guys, but he was stifled in my opinion,

755
00:50:16.960 --> 00:50:21.559
Yeah, yeah, no, yeah
no, So yeah, it's a

756
00:50:22.000 --> 00:50:23.280
it's it's weird. But I mean
there have been some guys that have gone

757
00:50:23.360 --> 00:50:27.920
that you thought, there's no way
that that kid's gonna stick. And he

758
00:50:28.079 --> 00:50:30.400
Aaron Gordon, right, I mean, guy couldn't make a free throw.

759
00:50:31.119 --> 00:50:34.960
Uh, you know, he could
jump out of the building, grab a

760
00:50:35.000 --> 00:50:37.559
lot of rebounds, you know,
and look at him. Now, well

761
00:50:37.880 --> 00:50:42.880
you just described Johnson Keisha, Yeah
you got jump out of the building,

762
00:50:42.920 --> 00:50:45.440
can hit some shots, not that
great of a shooter, but his athletic

763
00:50:45.480 --> 00:50:50.960
as all heck, and can play. Yeah Johnson, you see a guy

764
00:50:51.000 --> 00:50:54.480
like you go, okay, I
can do that. So we'll see,

765
00:50:54.599 --> 00:50:58.760
we'll see. The whole thing is
TJ McConnell. Come on, who would

766
00:50:58.760 --> 00:51:01.920
have thought that? And he's getting
contract. Man, I want to take

767
00:51:01.960 --> 00:51:05.400
this ball, or yeah, let's
do it real quick and real quick,

768
00:51:05.400 --> 00:51:07.719
real quick. Hi, you're on
the air and on the ball. You've

769
00:51:07.760 --> 00:51:12.679
only had about thirty seconds. That
figures it's jim. Oh, hey,

770
00:51:12.719 --> 00:51:16.000
Jim, you got to make it
quick or later? Do we still have

771
00:51:16.119 --> 00:51:22.400
number twenty running the football? Number
twenty? What do you mean? Uh?

772
00:51:22.840 --> 00:51:28.199
I don't know who that is?
Who that was running back for Arizona.

773
00:51:29.199 --> 00:51:31.280
Yeah, Coleman was that. No, Coleman was was he? He

774
00:51:31.320 --> 00:51:35.559
was in twenty he was like three. Yeah, he's gone to Washington.

775
00:51:36.039 --> 00:51:37.760
We talked about it. He's gone
to Washington. He got huge, he

776
00:51:37.880 --> 00:51:40.360
was huge. Yeah, you got
speedy. Look back and then a bunch

777
00:51:40.400 --> 00:51:45.840
of you guys. Okay, So
I think the football team is going to

778
00:51:45.920 --> 00:51:47.960
do better than we think. And
I think the basketball team is going to

779
00:51:49.039 --> 00:51:52.440
get knocked around, all right,
that's fair. Yeah, and I do

780
00:51:52.639 --> 00:51:54.960
well. The basketball team is gonna
get knocked rout because they're in a better

781
00:51:55.039 --> 00:52:00.079
league for sure. Now now I
think they're going to get I think they're

782
00:52:00.079 --> 00:52:04.920
gonna get there. Butts handed to
him a few times. It's based on

783
00:52:05.039 --> 00:52:07.199
physicality, yeah, but in the
end it's gonna matter. What's gonna matter

784
00:52:07.239 --> 00:52:10.159
is how do they do in the
n C Double A Tournament. And maybe

785
00:52:10.440 --> 00:52:14.320
this league gets them more ready for
the n C Double A Tournament. Who

786
00:52:14.320 --> 00:52:17.880
knows. Yeah, all right,
Jim, we gotta gotta hit the road.

787
00:52:17.920 --> 00:52:22.719
Appreciate it. Yeah, No,
Arizona is. Yeah, fans better

788
00:52:22.800 --> 00:52:25.079
get ready to see Arizona get blooded
more often than than they have in the

789
00:52:25.119 --> 00:52:28.119
past. All right, let's take
our break. When we come back,

790
00:52:28.440 --> 00:52:31.800
Uh, Henry, Henry's gonna be
hear the breaking news. Then we're gonna

791
00:52:31.800 --> 00:52:36.039
have Scott Thompson, former coach at
Arizona, under Ludles and stick around