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It's everywhere, Danny, we got a class of the season's happening.
Yeah, we broke a record today. I think we hit sixty four and
twenty eighteen, and by one o'clock today we were at sixty eight or sixty
six, I think by one o'clock. And then now we're dumping into high
winds Kevin saying there's snow out on the west side already and tony degrees.
Yeah, as windy as hell, Yeah, and windy. Let's getting gas
and it was pretty cold and then, uh, I'm supposed to be in
the fifties for the week. Yeah, it's I think this is the warmest
February on record. I'm pretty sure. I thought a few years ago.
Didn't we have a seventy degree day in February a few years ago? Yeah?
Yeah, twenty eighteen, twenty eighteen. They had to set the record,
right, But then we had a seventy degree day just a couple of
days ago, and then today was even warmer than the record on this date
so many years ago. Not going on here. Well, it's an El
Nino year, so in l Nino years, the rest of the country gets
cold, we get warmer. Next year's gonna be a La Nina year where
we're gonna get it. I hope we don't. So, oh, you
know what, I feel bad. Jesus will come back. I feel bad
for anybody who's running a business that required like our friends at full send.
Yeah right, I mean that's all that they're still making snow. I mean
it's not they're making great as snow, but they're making snow open. But
the problem is, like most people have their stuff, so it's not But
if you or if all of a sudden, I'm a mailman and I need
to get like another underlayer or whatever, I may go in there and I'm
not doing that. When it's fifty sixty seventies, you're wearing your mailman's shorts
with your mailman socks, your mailman chain. It's beautiful out mailman's shirts untucked.
I personally would take today kind of from November to say March, and
then yeah, I would too. I'm with you. I'm with you.
I don't I don't hate snow, no, but you know I'm with you.
I like a day like a pishoff. It's beautiful, but you can
have it. It's kind of like a North Carolina type feels like. Well,
I remember twenty years ago they said in twenty years our weather here would
be like Atlanta, Georgia. And I feel like we're getting more and more
like that. I think of that often. I don't know, but we
are Buffalo, ain't Buffalo's no winter's a scheduled Yeah, well Buffalo. Man.
That lake, the lake, yes, I mean it's a huge,
the shallow lake, and yeah it whips off. Trust I lived off that
lake. Man. You got Dallas, That's what is it? Really?
Wow? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't think. I don't
like that. I'm not ready for that. Some podcast business to catch up
on podcast business, no again, Kevin. Kevin went hard the other night
when I said hang on, and I said that if you had roadkill,
I was told by a professor at Saint John Fisher College, doctor Rice that
you could call the zoo and they would take your roadkill. Doctor Rice heard
that, and doctor Rice Doug and he found the thing, and he wrote
me today, if you see Kevin at the studio, tell him to eat
a bag of Dick's. For saying I was full of shit. I never
said he was full of shiit. Hilman said he was full of shit.
Well, either way, I I just thought it was funny. He wrote
a big l L and a crying emotion. However, you hit a deer.
So you hit a deer, you can you can you? Uh,
well, we're finding out of this. You can have the you can bring
it to the zoo for what to feed the line your deer through the zoo.
I thought, okay, So I was thinking baby, okay, so
this is the lion gets here's to hang up. This is what this is
how it all begins. The new baby giraffe died of encephalitis where your brain
swells. What you get that from? I don't know. It's so I
said, if if if the baby now so people It was on like ten
NBC's website or something about, uh, what happens to the animals when they
die? At the zoo. I'm talking inside the zoo. And they said
they they couldn't really tell you. They wouldn't tell. And there's a reason
they won't tell. They cremate some and they bury others, is what they
said. But they wouldn't say. And the reason allegedly is that some of
these animals are exotic and poachers. They try to dig up the bones.
WHI, which really does make sense, right it does? You know?
Look, I'm looking for a tiger run you got it? So they and
then they probably docinerate most of these right, yeah, okay, that's what
they did on Tiger King. So I said, they don't have a new
pope. The blackpoof comes up from the zoo tiger. I said that,
Uh, what they should do is maybe take the draft, like you know,
take the giraffe and give it to the lion as it would be in
the planes, right the African plane somewhere. What do you think is gonna
happen to a sick draft? Those draft, that's veal man. Those lions
man even know what to do with it though they've never been well. But
what they said, like hang on their city light. I did read where
they said that when they they put out like a cow's leg or a chicken
for the lions. They pounce on it. So I think instinctively, I
think that they just know instinctively what to do. So so I said,
you could bring your your dead deer. Well, according to this, the
Seneca Park Zoo does recycle road kill. However, deer must be dead for
less than ten hours Seneca Park Zoo, and he must be must be free
of diseases before feeding. Now, I don't know how they'd have to test
for that. They bought the lung covid stick. They go in the nasals.
You know, well, there is there is the U the zombie deer
disease that's going around. It's the wasting disease that they Yeah, I've heard
about that, okay, so, and that would spread probably if somewhere something
was to eat it. I I don't know if they could go to humans
if you ate that, like if a deer got killed, you didn't know
what had it. Anyway, we don't need a walking dead episode. According
to this, the zoo post signs in the carnivore enclosures explaining rope roadkill feedings
to zoo attendees. I've never seen that. I've never seen it either,
but that's what this says. That's saying our zoo or zoos in general.
No, this is all about Seneca Park zoo had had bullet points and everything.
So I've but I've never seen the roadkill thing. We'd be weird.
We need to get in touch with an out of state US. It might
talk to us a little bit more than Seneca, Texas. Probably wouldn't mess
around me. Get Jake Hannaut on the line. We tried to call.
We tried to call the other day. This is all reminding me of a
of a bit. I won't take care of an ad at the same time,
believe it or not, if you kill a car carr So we tried
to be TV. We tried to call UH, the Fairport Animal Control because
Laura was in here, and we called him, and I guess she used
to date him or whatever, and she was texting UH. She was texting
with him, and then he didn't answer for us, but he said,
I've heard about it, but I don't know much. So everything's like this
secretive thing. But apparently you can bring I think it's only deer. I
don't know about possum and Park Zoo is run by Freemasons. We don't talk
about this, but all this is reminding me that Pat McGann is at the
comedy club tonight. He was there last night. He's there tonight. Pat
McGann, for people who may not know, does a podcast with Sebastian Manascalco
and has open for him and they live in Chicago. That he's known him
for years and he's open for him around the country. I actually saw Pat
open for him at the Blue Cross Arena, and then I've seen Pat in
small clubs and I spent some time with Pat. He's just a fun,
fun guy. But I, unbeknownst to having this conversation completely I pulled this
for ads. We were going to run for the comedy club. They had
a lion there and like he's just pacing back and forth, pissed off.
My daughter picked up an only I don't think he's happy. What's he thinking.
I was like, he's thinking about killing all of us, that's what
he's thinking. Then she freaked out, I want to go home. I
was like, you know what, so does he He wants to go home
too. They ain't trick him. And I painted the jungle on the back
of his cell. Don't you love how they do that. They try and
recreate the habitat with some bullshit painting. That's fooling the animal. Like,
oh, maybe I'm back in the SERENGETI. There's my buddies over there.
Just runs into a wall, turns around, sees a bunch of fat people
eating fried dough. I'm gonna do that. You know. My wife,
she's been talking about going to Hawaii. I'm just gonna paint some palm trees
on our wall. Yeah, she come home from work, I'll be like,
Heloha, here's here my tie. I don't know why that. It
made me laugh so hard. I really like Pat. So Thursday is leap
day. He is there at seven point thirty and kind of a treat only
once every four years. Oh that is true, and he is. He's
a real treat. You're gonna love Pat McGahn. If you get to lock
those tickets down, I would lock them down right now. At Carlsoncomedy dot
com, I'm already thinking about comedy dot com. I'm aready think about ways
to like paint my living room somewhere. My wife comes home from work,
Hey, honey, it's hello. It's Tuesday. Uh, well, sad
news today, and it's weird because I was just watching the twelfth season of
Curb. I actually renewed because I had canceled it, so like today I
went through and I canceled a bunch of stuff, like I'm not watching anything
on Hulu and it's eighteen dollars a month. I'm getting rid of eighteen dollars.
Yeah, I got seventeen ninety nine. Canceled that. Oh fresh,
I aid ser I canceled. My wife's a T mobile person, and apparently
to get people to use T Mobile, they have to entice you with like
all this other crap. Yeah, and one of those is like you get
like certain like streams. Yeah, you can't bundles and things. I'm sure
it doesn't too. They give you like ESPN Plus and Disneys. I bet
you I didn't. I bet I could get cheaper, right, or I
could get my kid because I think I bought him one year for Christmas to
bundle but at the student rate and he got a bunch of different stuff in
there, and I think it was like one hundred bucks for the year.
So I canceled that. But I had renewed HBO Max, which is only
nine ninety nine. Because I wanted to see the new season A Curb.
Watching the new season A Curb and Richard Lewis, and I'm looking. I.
I turned to the I turned to the pillow on the couch and I
said, pillow, Richard doesn't look well. I looked like he had bad
plastic surgery. Like his skin looked so tight, there was no wrinkles.
I couldn't tell if, honestly, if he had plastic surgery or if he
was just sickly. It was hard to tell. Could he look better on
Curb or the Doug looked better in One Night of the Cat. Doug looks
better in One Night of the Cat. But don't forget that that was twenty
years ago and sixty pounds too. So I think there's there's difference. Writing
slightly better on curb? Yeah, oh so slightly. Uh. Do you
want to know why you gotta do? Why you get a ship? You
gonna get me in trouble again? Yes? I so. But this made
me laugh because he's talking about putting a Richard Lewis is saying, I'm putting
Larry in his will. They're out playing golf. Richard is in the golf
cart. Larry's getting out to tee off. I did wordle again today.
I'm a word of wizard. Man. I did a three try the street
days in a row. Man. Wow, you're really on a good streak.
I'm on a huge streak. That's right, all right, Let's see
if I can continue my streak. I know you've been unbelievable. What is
this all about? How are you doing this? You know what? I
sat on a bench this morning and overheard a lesson. So I've had thousands
of hours of lessons. Two minutes on that bench, this guy changed my
life. What kind of tips? Vertical drop? Yeah, horizontal talk,
horizontal talk, vertical drop, horrorsonal talk. Now I've dropped before, but
I've never tugged. And now I'm talking. Maybe I should talk. You
gotta talk? Can you teach me how to talk? I'll teach you how
to talk. This is fantastic. Can I tell you something? Sure?
I think it's the happiest I've ever been in my life. I don't even
know who I'm looking at right now. How was something happening to me?
No one on the planet will believe that you're how it is possible? I
have better news for you. I'm leaving you in my will. I'm tweaking
it and you're in it. No, no, no, don't don't do
that. It's done. You're in. I don't want to be and I
I have money. I don't need it. Give it to someone who needs
it when I die. I want you to know how much I care about
you. I'm not going to keep it. I'm going to give it to
Charity, my best friend. You're getting it. No, I'm making a
sharman that statement about the will right now, shooking at historical references. If
nominated, I will not run. If bequeath, I will not accept.
I'm bequeathing. Well, I'm not accepting. You'll have to accept. Don't
give it to me. Don't hurt my feelings. I'm not going to keep
up penny of it. You're hurting me. Thank you, but I don't
want I'm giving it to you anyway. Pal Oh my god, fuck you.
I don't know why if the show makes me laugh so hard. But
I have the same conversation I have with my mother about the uh. But
Richard Lewis seventy six had a heart attack and died in his sleep. According
to his wife, that's young, and he seventy six. I think seventy
six is young now, I don't know, but you break that record the
average person, the average I think, well, i'd like to think the
average American. I don't know about the world, but the average I thought
the average American the average age was seventy eight, giving you above and below
obviously with the average. So I think that that's why I often now,
And it is weird when you get reminders like this, because I go I
always enjoyed Richard Lewis. He had a lot of sitcoms. He did Leaving
Las Vegas, Robin Hood, Men in Tights, you know, some of
the movies. And I remember him on comedy specials and things when I was
a kid, in like nineteen eighty five, he had a Showtime special and
I think he had three or four HBO specials after that, and that was
like, you know, there was no Comedy Central or anything. And I
used to love to go to my grandmother's because they had HBO and I could
see all the comedians and stuff. Seventy nine point two five Well for America,
four for twenty twenty four, almost from twenty twenty three interesting. Wow
to the United Nations. Yeah, so our diet really is at the world
or America America. That's America, Okay, in America, all right.
When you said in the nine Nations, it United Nations is the one that
did all the research. Got you so almost eighty. Oh that's pretty good
the life expectancy. Yeah, yeah, so, I mean when you think
about it, that's that's what the pandemic. When I look at my life,
I go, it's a little less than thirty summers, you know what
I mean, that's a little less than thirty one. It was the best
of times. It was the worst of times. It's seventy two for the
as of twenty twenty two for the world, seventy two for the Wars were
almost seven years better than the world. Right. Blue zones. Yeah,
by the way, I saw somebody pitching a blue zone diet. I should
have said it to you. I should have said it to no. He
was on YouTube. He was on YouTube put pitching a blue a blue zone
diet. I said no more. Animal says no, no, No.
I didn't say no. I got annoyed because I knew that was I felt
like that was gonna happen, and What I also feel like is when you
watched the documentary Blue Zones, it's all the things we inherently know. Stop
eating the fucking oreos. You know what, here's what you can't do.
You can't eat some kind of uh thc edible and then bring out packs of
oreos. It's gonna hurt you. I know, might have done it this
weekend packs of oreos. And you know what they say about oreos and oreos
are well, I don't know what they say about oreos. I don't Oh,
they're like they're addictive. Yeah, well that my wife poisoned exactly what
I was anything a box, Do not trust anything in a box. Brian
Gionta said the other day. The other day when we were out many days
ago, you were hanging out with Brian Johnta. Yeah, he came out
to he came out to Victor Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram and we were there and
we were talking and and I said something about nutrition and you know, keeping
yourself in shape, and he said, nutrition is such a big part of
everything. Like because I said, over the years since you entered the league,
and then how many years later, how nutrition has changed. I mean,
it's really kind of proven. I mean, you got to look at
guys like Tom bragging. Everybody made fun of the avocado ice cream and the
this and then that and all that guy played that game, which I know,
I know they protect quarterbacks more now than ever before. It's still the
most violent game on the planet. Yes, I mean, I still watch
guys take fucking hits, like you know, and you don't go twenty one
years in the league and nothing happens to you, right, So I think
the eating, obviously, the stretching and all the other stuff that he did
was great, but the diet is so important. And Gianta said, I
watch my kids grab for a sleeve of Oreos, he said, specifically Oreos,
and I go, oh, God, you have no idea what you're
doing to yourself. And I thought of that the next day after I looked
at the remnants of Oreos and I come out of my You woke up in
a pool of your own RUMs, and I got, I got, my
mouth is dry from the I'm like God and has has come off the hills.
If we were talking nutrition with him over the course of his career,
where he started back when the Russians would be smoking cigarettes, in the lockers
period, yea drinking vodka of the ceiling titles between periods and now it's protein
shapes, and yeah, it's it's just interesting how how all that does Speaking
of of Richard Lewis, though the late Richard Lewis, here is some stand
up from back in the day horror movies. Because I'm squeamish and but I
go. Some of my exes like to go because I'd like to pull for
the Antichrist, so I go, you know, but they have this.
I don't like obligatory violence. If it works for the story, fine,
but like now, you know, like every twenty second, something has happened,
Like if a couplee at a high school cafeteria, see I think I'll
have that me love me, love me, and a blade will shoot out
of the bread and go right through their brain. I mean every twenty seconds.
It's like it's like the Stephen King thing. Now, well he's he's
he's the major, you know, horror guy with it. When I started,
I had to laugh. I'm sorry. I couldn't sleep just seeing the
book cover it, I couldn't sleep. I was Loane, Oh my god,
there's a pronoun in the basement. Oh my god, are you married?
Curious? You guys married? No ring? Table two? No ring?
Hey? Look, well who am I talking to? Get about?
I want to get married my last I just broke up with a with an
actress. Who Look, I'm not obviously, I don't know if you know
me not, but I I'm no gift. Okay, but this woman lived
in a predominantly anxious section of town. There's no doubt in my life.
I mean she was like she was like, you know, actresses, and
it's the hardest. Look the recession. Everybody has it tough now, but
actors it's tough. But nevertheless, she was wacko. Okay, she was
an only child, but she still had a sibling rivalry, which I felt
was like, I mean, in her backyard. By her she had a
set of mood swings, which is not a giveaway. But she's a host.
You know, actors usually have to be waiters or waitresses during the day.
She was a hostess. We go to a like a restaurant. It
was sort of embarrassing. She goes table for me, table for me,
it was sort of saying. And then we'd have parties. And I mean
she actually went to like one of these, like I think it's called pips
or whatever it is. These shaox joints are good. But she made of
course b I gladly paid one hundred bucks for the invitations for a party.
Come be bitter from eight to eleven. But you know that's you know,
that's what life is all about, you know. But in fact, she
just went to New York and I had to pick her up last night at
LAX. We're shooting here in LA and she's a little wacky. I mean,
I'm not you know again, multi personalities. I'm not knocking in.
I know it's not a good thing. But she answered every page at the
airport. It was like call for doctor Phil Garment. She went, that
might be me, that might be me. That was a little embarrassing.
The late Richard Lewis seventy six years old heart attack. He did have Parkinson's,
But I I don't know that Parkinson's necessarily maybe it's a contributing factor.
I don't think you can die. I mean, if you look at Michael
J. Fox, I don't think you can die from Parkinson's. I think
some Parkinson's people die from the fall, like falling in hitting the ride or
something. Yeah, I don't do bad. I don't know. We're going
to meet a couple of fellas that are bikers from bikers. Uh well,
I should say it right because it's BAKA Bikers Against Child Abuse, OKAKA,
Bikers Against Child Abuse. And we're gonna meet Butch and ghost Rider Butching ghost
Rider, all right, so we won't meet those fellas. Was a movie
Butcher Ghostwriter. I couldn't well. The ghost Rider I think was I don't
even know if it's a superhero pictur ghost Wasn't there a cartoon or years ago
a comic strip ghost rider and he wore like a purple suit or something?
I think so, Yeah, I think there was a ghost Rider. It
was one that they always skipped over. And really, Butching ghost ri gonna
get you if you're bad parents. But we will Uh well, we'll hear
what BAKA does and they'll have a charity coming up. And I want to
ask them about, you know, riding bikes on the roads today with distracted
driving, it's it's a dangerous. I think it's more dangerous today to be
on a motorcycle than anything, at least the cars. You know, you've
got a million air bags and things of motorcycles. Anytimes somebody gets into a
motorcycle accident, somebody on Facebook who rides a motorcycle? All right, roll
call who's up? Like they want to know, like if it's one of
them, Oh that they know, Yeah, because it's a it's a very
tight knit community. Yeah, I haven't. God, yeah, it's it's
scary. I mean that. And even people riding bicycles, like you'll see
the guys the cyclist, you know what's funny. I don't mean to hijack
because I know we're going to break, but like more and more, more,
more and more cyclists. Yeah, kids typically don't put reflectors on their
bikes anymore. I've noticed it in my neighborhood. It's like I barely see.
They aren't coming with it. They maybe they don't come with them,
but they certainly they aren't putting them on there. If they don't come with
them. Used to be a requirement. I thought you had to get reflectors
on your bikes, like in the back, in the front, Yeah,
on both wheels. I thought they always had them on there. I don't
know, I've been seeing people without them. Uh, well you better start
writing tickets. Citizen Dans. We'll take them moment. But first Cobblestone on
Maine at one on nine West Main Street in the village of Webster. Why
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I was looking at the menu. They have something called Cobblestone Garden, so
it's all their salads. You can get the classic chopped caesar salad, the
Cobblestone Salad, the remain Wedge. But to a lot of the salads you
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to two comp today. Iron Smoke Distillery in Fairport, New York is an
award winning distillery and I love that it's right here in the town that I
live in. And it also brings a whole lot of entertainment as well.
I like going in there getting a craft cocktail. I keep telling you about
the peacemaker. Have you had it yet? Please go have a peacemaker or
anything they make there. It's delicious, but it's all made with iron smoke
spirits. Great live entertainment coming this weekend Starting tonight Thursday, February t Leap
Day. It's Eric Carlin's half Dead Leap Day of the Dead featuring local music
legend Mike Gladstone sitting in. So if you like guitar shootouts, this is
gonna be a whole lot of fun. Leap Day of the Dead. Then
Friday, No Friday's a bad Friday, you got the Acoustic Sunset sessions beginning
at five don an Aj Acoustic Sunset Session and then Misfit Toys taking the stage
at eight thirty. They've got an epic setlist covering artists like Nine Inch Nails,
Soundgarden, Lincoln Park stp to Peter Gabriel. You two. It's all
happening at Iron Smoke Distillery in Fairport, New York. Baby, the coolest
place on the planet. The head out on the highway looking forward. It's
a little cliche, but I had to do it. I had to do
it. You were going to play justin Beam for the Bikers inside the Bones.
Yeah, well, bad to the Bone and maybe we'll do that next
uh baka the Bikers Against Child Abuse. In the studio is Butch And I'm
so excited about this ghost Rider. I mean I've been excited to meet ghost
Rider. I would this keeps saying your movie premier guy for ghost ghost Well,
I mean when you see ghost Rider, it almost feels like that would
be the proper way to introduce and this is ghost Rider. Is that because
I almost looked dead? No, because you're a big guy. You're a
big you look like a big tough biker guy. Which, by the way,
this is a very nice thing that you guys do with with BAKA because
uh, I always think that when I say, okay, bikers against child
abuse. But bikers we think of, you know, rough kind of guys.
We think of shows like what was the show Sons of Anarchy, that
kind of thing, and you're not really thinking about people who are looking out
for children. Right. But I even knew guys who were in the Hell's
Angels and stuff, and they all had a very family side, right.
Yeah, So that was the But tell me about BACCA and how it came
to be and what the purpose is. Okay. So Bacha started in nineteen
ninety five. He was a clinical social worker and a licensed plate therapist in
Utah. He had been working with abused children for about twenty years or so
and just realized that even after his time with them, that the purpose were
still getting to these children and they were still inflicting fear in these children.
So he had positive experiences with bikers, probably through his father or something and
as a child. So he got some biker friends together and they went over
to a child's house and gave him the commit meant to be there for him,
and Bacco was formed. And now twenty eight years later, we're in
forty seven states, in eighteen countries. Yeah, and where's the This is
the chapter out of Rochester. It's the Rochester Chapter. We have eight chapters
in New York state. You have eight chapters in New York State? How
many members are in the Rochester? It don't talk numbers? Okay, enough
to run? Enough to run it? Yeah? And is it? So?
How do people donate? Then? If I wanted to, Let's say
you're doing a ride? Do we how do we sponsor that? So we
don't do we particularly as our chapter, we don't do a ride. We're
doing a spaghetti dinner this year. It could be our fundraiser. That's April
seventh at the Moose Lodge on West Henyretta Road. Wait, Danny was just
at the mose Oh yeah, Roy's the best a psychon solid second big the
Moose Lot. Very good to us there. Yeah, the Moose Lot sounds
like they've got great people doing a whole bunch of stuff. Yeah. So
what is so the spaghetti dinner open to anybody, open to anybody? Really?
Yep? With fifteen dollars, that's it. Ye. Wow, homemade
meatballs, sausage, pasta, salad. What are you making? I greet
people for seconds, he's making room for seconds. No, I didn't know.
I didn't know if he was like making the meat if you told me,
yeah, but if ghost Ryders said to me, I got a great
meatball recipe, I'm believing it. I think it's probably you know, maybe
it's about cooking a lot. Actually, do you know I eat well,
no cooking except chilli much So okay, wait chi? What is the purpose
of so this it? It sounds interesting and I kind of like it.
It was created to support kids who were having a tough time, but a
lot of times child abuse is happening in the home. Yes, and it's
not really talked about. Yes, you know. I mean we're talking now.
It was a million years ago. I went to school, but I
remember a kid shown up with still his dad's handprint on his face, and
he had a twin brother, and his twin brother goes, yeah, we
were wrestling with dad and things got out of hand. This is like third
grade now. I believe if you showed up at school with a red handprint
on your face, they're mandatory reporters so they have to say something which is
a good thing, that that that's a positive that we're going in the right
direction, because a lot of times these kids, you know, it's got
to be the most confusing thing in the world. The people that I love
that that provide me with the things I need are also the ones who scare
the shit out of me and all that, And I know that parenting is
a very very difficult thing. You guys both yeah, grandparents, grandparents,
you're but no, yeah, so's it's it's one of these things where probably
the grandparent stage is going to be very nice because you get to give the
kid back sure them all. That's what I'm thinking. That's another thing.
A ghostwrider. I don't know, but it's one of these where you know,
you never want to tell anybody to the parent, but you don't want
to see a kid abused either. So can you get the parent into some
kind of parent coaching, Like, hey, you don't give yourself. I
mean, there are times where you feel like you're losing your mind, so
you know, try to step outside, give yourself a breather here, and
then come back in. Do you guys help people find those types of situations?
So so our mission is to empower abuse children. Yeah, not to
fear the world in which they live. Okay, So part of our three
criteria main criteria and taking a kid taking a case is one that the case
has been reported. Okay, you don't want mom and dad are fighting for
custody and now somebody's going ooh, he hit Johnny in the head. So
we don't we don't do that. The other thing is they need to be
living in fear. And the second or third actually is that, uh,
they can't be living with the if they're living with the perpetrator. Yeah,
we're only going to make it worse, right, So you know our kids.
We're not vigilantes. We're not going in and plucking kids out homes.
No. But I gotta say if I knew, like, let's say I
was reported for abusing my kid, like I beat them up pretty good,
and then all of a sudden, I, you know, I'm out of
the house or whatever, and I hear boxus. I see I pull up
in one day to pick up the kids, and I see ghost riders sitting
out by the mailbox. I might not be fucking around so much, you
know what I'm saying? Yeah, and we've got to be very careful with
that situation. Sure you do. Our biggest thing that we do is escort
the children to court. Yes, we go to court for all the pre
courts and everything. And in the summertime when we're riding, when we escort
the kid to court, there are may be twenty bikes there with the kid
in the middle. People think the president's coming to and they're built up so
much, right, and they've been around us much. They feel so good
when they go to court. The purpose attorney subpoenas everybody, so the child's
got to go in there by themselves. Oh, they can't subpoena me.
The ghostwriter doesn't exist. That's the reason for the road names. So we're
always in court. We deal real closely with the DA's and all the advocacies
and all that. That's where we really make the impression is you get the
kids strong enough to go testify in court. Because everybody's scared to go to
court. Well, it's not just that they're also talking about somebody who they
probably have all kinds of twisted feelings about. Right, I love my home.
Ever, that can be very difficult when it happens to the family members,
right. And one of the biggest things is someone let these children down,
you know, usually their parents or someone really let them down to disappoint
them. One of our biggest things is we make sure we never will.
If we say we're going to be there, we're there. If we're going
our area goes from Lake Ontario to the Pennsylvania border. So if we're going
to see a kid like down to Elmira and we're driving down road and I'm
checking my GPS and it says, oh, ship, we're running late.
Yeah, we'll run ninety miles an hour. Oh ship, we're too fast.
We get there. We're going to get there. Now, what happens
if a kid says I'm being bullied? There's nothing we can do if you're
bullying this person, Yeah, does then we go after you? Then we're
nothing but bullies ourselves. Yeah, But what if it's what if it's a
situation, What if it's a teacher in a school, Well, usually that's
not gonna happen. Somebody else would jump in. It's got to be a
very fine line as to what we have to be very careful for. We
don't want to lose the ability that we have to do things right, you
know, like Butcher says, we're not vigilantis. There's nothing we can do
about it. We're not even fucking role models. We're just there to empower
these children to go to court. But it's time to take your check.
Do you want us to go or do you want your CPA to go?
Yeah? Yeah, but I would but I would say, I would say
your role model in that for the kid, showing them that people are there
and and and keep their word. You know that that's a nice thing.
It's it's really a three part system that we have going. It takes baka,
it takes the good agencies, good counseling, yeah, and hopefully a
good family. Yeah. And a lot of times we did not see the
good family. Well, I was just gonna say, I think a lot
of times, you know, when we think of abuse, I would think
that a lot of people go, well, we'll think poorer stuff. But
I believe there's very similarities between the two extremes of our economic system, the
extremely rich and the extremely There's a lot of similarities. You know what I
mean. You're raised by somebody else, you're raised by somebody else, you
know what I mean. And I wouldn't be surprised if there was abuse kids
all over the socioeconomic strata, right that. But yeah, but the family
stuff is tough, and that's the hard thing these for these kids because they
don't know who to rely on. They're just kids, and that's that's who
we try to be the people that they can rely on. Even you know,
like you said, when we say we're going to be there, I
don't say I'm going to be there. If I'm a primary to a child,
I don't say, oh, I'm going to be there, because what
if I get sick, what if I get hurt something and keeps me.
So we always tell them Bak is going to be there, and somebody is
going to be there. Usually a group of us. We roll in the
court, we roll in with the full chapter. I mean, there's a
lot of people there and it's got to be intimidating a little bit, just
a little bit. I mean that that that's a bad thing. I'm just
saying, you know, I like, I like to say that we're not
there as a sign of intimidation, but we're a sign of strength for the
child so they can get up there and do what they got to do.
So you're doing a lot of good for for bikers, you know, having
I come from a world where there were no bikers. My parents were teachers
and you know, educators and that sort of thing. But being on radio
and being around some of the sweetest, kindest people were the ones that I
that were bikers and stuff. Honestly, like, you know, when I
would go and hang out when I was on the radio at the tattoo parlor,
I used to love to I would go and eat lunch and hang out
with Joe t in the back, and I loved Tea, loved that guy
and for all I mean, he had a huge heart and all the stuff
that he did. And so I always thought, man, you know,
this idea of where we judge a book by its cover kind of thing is
ridiculous. And you really got to I think it's it's awesome that you're doing
this stuff. You know, we're trying to we bring them in. They're
part of our family. We're family. I spend over the summer, I
probably spend more time with a ghost writer I do with my wife. Really,
my wife is your wife, thanks ghost writer. Yeah, and probably
thinking me, we have women in BAKA too. My wife's in Bacca.
We got to have women in there to the kids. Some kids just don't
you know, they're scared of them men. Yeah, so we do have
women in and actually sometimes he spends more time with my wife than I do
because their primaries together in a bunch of cases. But just to get into
Baka, you got to come to three consecutive churches, which is our meeting,
and then I fingerprint you and they run a background check. Yeah,
I don't want to child molesters in there. And you know, obviously you
can't have any child molestation, no domestic abuse. You can't even be back
on child support because if you can't take care of your own kids, you
can't take care of our kids, right, you know the rest of the
crimes, who cares? You're a biker? Have you had if you know?
It's seriously if you got you knowing, so you know you got a
lot of breaking and enterings, that kind of stuff, Right, I'll put
on the folder. Don't let them be a treasurer, don't let them handle
the money. Yeah, but he might be great for something else maybe,
and who knows. Well, the problem is that a lot of people made
mistakes somewhere along the line, and you know that's my whole, my whole.
What I really dislike about the cancel culture idea is that if we're supposed
to be evolving and making things better, why are we going to cut you
out because you're wrong? Why not? Do? I really do like what
you just said. If the guy's are breaking entering, don't make him the
treasurer. But he could have done it twenty years ago when he was eighteen,
and now he's thirty eight and he's not doing that sort of thing,
and he's been a business, you know, held a job that all this
stuff. And yet you know, of course we would look back and that
would be the automatic thing I have to Yeah, well I would even think
assault, right, I don't matter as sult. No, that's what I
mean, Like if somebody got in a fight and arrested for a fight in
a bar. There's a lot of stupid charges out there. Yeah, a
ton, I've got the file for New York State charges. It's probably intertick
with all the different variations and all it's it's ridiculous. But that's just the
start of it. Once you got your fingerprints come back through and our board
to proves you, then you got six to nine months of the online training
before you can training to do what how to handle the kids, okay,
what to do with the kids, court behavior. Yeah, different positions because
we have a lot of different positions in BAKA. Gotcha. How to talk
to bikers if you're not a biker. Yeah, all all different stuff.
Really, how to talk to bikers if you're not a biker. What would
I learn in that? Take your sunglasses off, take your gloves off,
don't interrupt. Yeah. Wait, so it's mostly just kind of hang hand.
This is for bikers. How to talk to people who are non bikers,
people who wanted to join BAKA, they may be, they may be
bikers, to be familiar with them. I got you, I got you.
I understand what you're saying. So you're saying to somebody who's a biker
who and now you're gonna call We're gonna be talking to DA's lawyers whatever.
Take your sunglasses. I think that actually is well, I think that's actually
smart, you know, I mean, just as a thing one of the
everybody was shocked in the NFL that when the forty nine Ers players stood up
and said we didn't understand the rules for overtime right, and the other team
had sat down and gone over the rules for overtime A couple of times the
same thing here. You know you could walk and go. I had no
idea. Well then you make us look all of us look bad, so
let's try to be uniform. Yeah. Well, I have very few fears
in life. I can't imagine clowns and nuns, really clowns and nuns?
Or what did a nun do to you at eight years old? Like I
went to our Catholic school. I don't know he did, maybe he did.
But the biggest fears that one of my people are going to screw up
in court and get a case thrown out, yeah dismissed. Yeah, that's
one of my biggest fears. Our guys know enough and women they do not
talk when we're in court. You don't talk to anybody. You're there,
you're surrounding to kids, you play with the kids, You keep the kid
distracted, everything it takes to to get them ready to go into the into
the courtroom. I know you said you don't talk numbers. I will ask
this question. If the answer is the same, I forgive me, but
roughly, how many cases are you handling A year. That's that's a number.
We definitely don't talk Oh you don't talk about Okay, do you ever
do you ever work with what's the agency downtown and they're mostly uh yeah,
we worked with Bavona very strong in the beginning. We when we came here,
we do the Bavona Summit, okay that they have once a year between
COVID and all that stuff at kind of distant everybody from Sance. Yeah,
we deal with Bavona. We deal with the Finger Lakes Catholic charities. Yeah,
yeah, because Spire Hope, New York. I think, uh,
I always liked Bavona before the fact that you know, a child who had
been sexually abused us, you got to talk to the police officer, has
to do an interview, and a psychologist and all these different A doctor does
an example, they just put the kid behind two way glass, one person,
one interview. Everybody's on the other side. Here's it all, and
so that everybody gets the information that they're looking for. Does the same thing
a lot. They have their own room where they can go in there and
do every they need to do right there. So it's you know, kind
of like one stop shopping. I guess, yes, well it is.
And I think that's great for the kid because they're telling the story. And
then you also don't know what when you go, hey, honey, what's
being said to the kid when they're not with uh, you know, the
authorities, it's like what's good? And it fed into their head on stuff?
Oh yeah, you know what I mean. It's a it's a scary
thing. I I did some stuff with Bavonau. I was abused as a
Child's actually abused as a child, So I had spoken a couple of their
things, and I was really impressed by that organization, and I thought that
might be one you may have worked with. They're they're huge. They've every
year they take on a little bit different role. Okay, they're more into
the educational yeah, end of it. Now, Yeah, there's summit.
They bring people in agencies from Oliver, the state come to that. Okay,
they've they've definitely grown a lot. How many years can here's a number
of questions again, ask how many years you have been involved? Myself going
on like seven years? Seven years. Rochester's been patched in for almost nine
Yeah, so so but all nine for you, two for you? Look
at his patch it's white as can be. It's great. Yeah. Okay,
so you've been doing so what what got you in? Uh? Someone
I knew was going to a meeting yeah, and said would you like to
check this out? And we went and checked it out. It was like
holy shit, yeah a great cause. Yeah, and then it's just carried
out from there. One's the how can but how can it not? Right?
I mean, you got kids. No one likes seeing this, especially
the first time you go and and do a level one and you meet these
kids. I was just gonna ask him. A Level one is the first
time the child meets the entire chapter. That's when they're assigned their primaries.
The primaries are PATS members who are their twenty four seven three sixty five contact
So if the kid is old enough to have a phone, can they contact
you primaries? So usually we all we always do it in a group,
So it's a group text. I it's a phone call. Hopefully we got
three way calling, but usually most of the kids use texts. Yeah.
So then we give them a few things. So I'll show you here in
a second, and uh, then we do what the kid wants to do.
Uh. We play a lot of kickball. Yeah, we live.
Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on. I got it.
I got a question. Was the last time you played barbies? I
want to know you freaking makeup? That's why it hates. We were we
were driving down the road, myself and two other members. Afterwards we'd all
split off, and it's like, I gotta go and wash this ship off
so I can go get a drink. We're flying down the road and I'm
screw this ship. We're doing ninety to one hundred down four ninety. I'm
just hoping to get pulled over so the cop can look at us. So,
what was the last time you played kickball? Prior to this, I
was just wonder. I didn't go to school so never What do you mean
you didn't go to school very often? Drop out at sixteen, kicked kickdown?
Yeah, didn't go before then, didn't go Where Where was that?
Victor? Victor? Yeah, good school district, real good. My daughter
and grandkids of all und Yeah, probably probably very proud of that. I
would think, you know, good schools, and maybe anybody got on to
education beyond Victor. Yeah. My daughter's going to college, the oldest grandson's
going to I think Brockport. Next there you go, look at this off
see. Well, here's here's what I believe. And I've said this on
this podcast. I have one son who's gonna graduate college, and I have
another son who's working in a factory. I don't care what you do,
as long as you got a motor to do something. You know what I'm
saying something? And I have a funny feeling like school just wasn't for you,
doesn't It doesn't mean you were, It doesn't mean you're dumb, doesn't
mean anything. It just means it wasn't for you. When it means I'm
uneducated, Yeah, I guess. But there's different education, right, you
get you get what do what they call it, they'll call it the school
a hard Knox or some stupid phrase like that. But I would think that
you know overall, Wait, you have family, You put a kid through
college, you got grandkids doing through college. That doesn't matter. You look
like you're a pretty happy guy. It doesn't matter. No, it does
no good to be unhappy. No, what were I do have to ask
this though? What were your parents like when they when you dropped out?
They weren't very happy? Yeah? Yeah, not a lot. They could.
My old man kicked me and he asked that if you're not going to
school, you're going to work. So I went to work construction and said,
this mistake he ever made. If you told me I had to stay
home and do nothing, I would have went to school. Yeah, so
you went and you worked, Yeah, right away, almost like an apprenticeship.
Then almost no basically labor. Yeah, that's why I know. But
I mean like you're learning on the job. It was on the job,
on the job learning because I remember when when I was fifteen, I worked
on construction in the summer and they used to send me up on the roofs
to sweep the sawdust off before the guys came up and laid down, and
I go, man, if osha ever came through on these prefab condos where
everything came in and then they put the roof up, I'm up two stories
on plywood sweeping and if you step on sawdust it's like marbles. Well that's
the thing you'll you'll slipe. Yeah, one hundred percent. It's like ice.
So they wanted it swept off, but they so they put me up
there doing it, and I go, man, today, if you had
a fifteen year old sweeping off for the second. No, we got people
in baka. We do the same thing with go stand in traffic and stop
them so we all can pull up. All right, we'll take a moment.
Oh go ahead. What were you gonna say? I was gonna get
back to the level one. But if you got to take a break,
No, I don't tell me. Tell me about the level one. Our
kids get. They get what we call the Bacca Bear. Okay, so
when we show up, you're presented with the bear. Everybody present signs the
bear and we all hug it really and we tell them we're filling it with
love, hugs, strengths, and it's never ending anytime they need it.
I do have another question. So if you think is funny, yeah,
imagine pulling up to a park and you have fifteen bikers. But here's my
here's my real question. Here's my real question, and I won't ask you.
I do have to do a come on, how many tears have shred?
I would probably teer up loving the bear, the kid's story, how
many tears? I want numbers? One thing you can't do in court.
You know you got to be strong in court. In court, But I'm
saying this is in a park, you're giving the bear and you're trying to
infuse theny many times in the past and beginning, things will happen that will
bring a tear. We talk about it so much now that we don't get
teared up now, But I mean, I tell we tell stories of presentations
with you know, workers and everything, and they tear up. What's you're
human about it? You're human? How can you not? Kids are a
future? Yeah, you keep asking these questions, you're gonna tear up and
punches in the face. Take the rings off. They get their own cuts
all they do. Look at that. That is really cool. They get
their their names on it. Yeah, up mission patch, and then we
have two different back patches that they get to choose from Wow flames with that,
and then they get their bottom rockers that to them at the level one
and it's their choice. If you want to wear it, go ahead and
put on. If you don't, we understand that too. Everything we do
is about giving them choices and their voice backbody. Oh yeah, that's why
we're like, what do you want to do? If they're standing there,
gone, uh, We're like, what do you want to do? Well?
I don't know. It's whatever you want, whatever you want, and
we do the macarena. Something you want. You want to see a bunch
of bikers. I'm security, so I'm not in there. I'm that.
I knew you'd find a way to sneak out of that always goes up first,
stay back there, laughed my ass. Water. We've had level ones
where the kid has put us all in the pool, really thirty bikers and
ground pool dropped our cuts in the pool. She calls up my name.
When we got out, it was only like half full water displacement. It's
also a chemistry experiment right along the way eth science. What I don't remember
what it is? What got you involved? You said two years what what
brought you in was a ghost writer that brought you in? No, actually
Wolf, who's another member in for a long time. Yeah, and did
you meet the ghost through Baca And you've been and you became that faster friends
that you're spending like summer and that's awesome, that's great, riding a lot
together, doing a lot of things together. And yeah, we've become pretty
close. Yeah, I mean and his wife they live close by too,
so I usually go over there and then we ride to wherever, riding to
to meet everybody else. And we've been doing agency presentations together for over a
year now. And we were in Pennsylvania last year together. We rode down
there for a Level one that was high security. It was down by the
Maryland border. They called out to different states and what are people there?
And within two days, where's six states there? Probably? Wow, I've
been to Arizona all for this for a level two in Arizona Level two?
What's a level two? When there's immediate danger? Indimate danger? Yeah,
there's threats? Uh? That one in uh Arizona the mother and her boyfriend
of the child got stabbed the morning at court they got stabbed yep, trying
to get the kidnapped to testify. Wow, we've had BACCA members attacked with
baseball bats. We've had BACCA members shot. Who the purpose? They take
shit? Seriously, they get really pissed off at us. Yeah, wow,
that's not You're doing good work then, right, I mean, you're
doing good work. Why why don't we take a moment. I want to
ask you guys to take a step away from Bacca book talk about bikes and
safety and just a term of riding today, I was saying to these guys,
I feel like, you know, driving used to be the activity,
was the main thing he did. Now it's the thing you do while you
check your text messages and your email. Likes out this morning going to work,
Well, I was gonna ask if you guys were riding today. I
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mentioned it. It was like thorough Good. He's a moody guy. You
can get a little grumpy. On the day I was falling. He's got
to be pushing eighty years out. He's in there, he's about well,
he's over seventy. Yeah, I don't know where I would. I was
gonna put him closer to seventy than eighty, but I don't. Seventy four
birthday just happened. He used to like tour all summer, but he had
a he played in the semi pro Baseball league one year. I loved baseball
like in the Delaware area, and he was a University of Delaware and I
have a cousin who went there around the same time, and they used to
play everywhere. It was a blue hen Yes, wow, I'm pretty sure.
I'm pretty sure. I wonder if he knows Biden. Maybe everybody in
Delaware do Biden. They didn't and they and by the way, these guys
having nice things to say about them back then a couple of weeks a bike
Week. Wow, have you been out to Sturgis? No, I don't
like people. Really, I can't tell that about you though Niagara Falls.
And by the way, that's such bullshit. You seem like such a warm
honestly, like a warm guy. I don't like crowds. I got you
that, you know. I don't like Daytona. I love Daytona. Never
went for bike Week. Bike Week's not there. It went bike We said,
yeah, that's Dayton's changed anyway, They've moved it from one place to
another. It's there. You know, someone shows their tits. You're in
jail for a day. Really, Yeah, they're trying to equal opportunity.
But you ever go to any of those Sturgis or any of these big no,
no, no, don't really have much desire to. You've been thinking
about Sturgis, But I would do only to make I would go like before
Sturgis starts, and stay for a couple of days of Sturgis. You can
get the hell out. Okay, that's when it's in the Black Hills right
south. Yeah, it is gorgeous. I haven't been there in man million
years, but it's beautiful. The Black hills of South Dakota, something about
riding with a bunch of people. I don't know the easy Okay, yeah,
I don uneasy riders Now for like two years, my wife goes,
oh, are you gonna go out to the Palmer Remose ride. I go,
no, I have something going on, and both of those years or
is the Rex? Yeah, and just you know, just people not knowing
what they're doing or just being yeah, well, do you get a lot
of inexperience? Do you get a lot of weekend warriors? You know what?
You know what I'm talking about, and they shouldn't be riding it?
Yeah. Yeah. Our group we worked together to make sure everybody can ride
in the group, to make sure they can take the corner and stay in
their lanes. Yeah. And there's a lot to it, and most people
don't have that in them. Yeah. Yeah, I've never So I got
a motorcycle permit when I was seventeen and my mom was a speech pathologist and
she found out and flipped out because all the head trauma victims she worked with,
blah blah. So I never got back on a bike and then new
years later. But I love driving fast. I love going down to last
I went to the drag strip this past year for the first time drag racing,
watching eh, getting behind the wheel and open that shit up. God
damn is that fun? And that you know that stuff? And then I've
done some things down at Walkin's Glenn, but I've never done the bike stuff,
and that it does look like fun. There is some kind of freedom
to it that I always liked. But that was that leads me into this.
I really wonder about safety because I had a guy who lived across the
street from me who was a professional laugh bicyclist. He was on the bud
Light team and he was guys who would you know, do all the trained
down Naspen for years and stuff, and he wouldn't even ride after a while
because people were so distracted. Now bikes he can see, loud pipes save
lives, all these things. But I swear to God, man, people
just aren't. You know, cars are built so well. I don't think
people know sometimes how fast they're going. I think everybody thinks they're better than
they are, and so they check a text message, they'll send an email,
they'll hey, I'm talk texting. Why is this not working? How
come my phone's not connecting and all your attention and focus is here as you're
traveling seventy miles an hour down, you know what I mean? And then
here comes a bike. The guy came out of nowhere? Well did he?
I mean, so, I don't know what you guys see. I
mean, has it gotten scarier over the years? You just go fast.
If you're in front of ours, they can't hit you. But I mean,
how many years have you been riding? Probably since you were a teenager.
I started out on dirt bikes, okay, but in terms of I
had a learners from it too, for like fifteen twenty years. But I
mean for for riding over the years, I would think that it has to
give. It has to be worse today, No, yeah, definitely.
Yeah, you know there's directions, are there. I mean it's worse even
if you're in a car. There's more car yeah yeah, car accident.
It's just that with cars you have a better chance of surviving, is my
thing. I think, with the airbags and the amount of the way these
things are built today. Not that you want, yeah, yeah, but
I mean when there's nothing between you and the road, that's the thing.
Other than whatever I watched the guy I was. I was on the side
of my house on a ladder, and all of a sudden, I hear
this screech. Somebody was trying to cross the street from one street to another,
but they weren't exactly parallel, you know, across from each other.
So this it had a little diagonal guy on a bike who've been riding for
he got an When I looked, all I heard was the noise. I
looked, I thought it was a kid in the go cart that got hit.
It wasn't. It was the guy sliding on his back in his leather,
probably a good two hundred feet from his bike that he had laid down
right at the corner. I was like, holy shit, I mean,
just that, like nothing happened to the he just simply swerved, hit the
the debris on the side of the road, laid the bike down, and
then there was no contact. But I go, man, that's all you
need. Well, that's a person laying the bike down themselves. I mean
that's chances are yes, yes, yes, yes, you know they were
missing something or they weren't in the right frame of mind and they did something
wrong. Well, they weren't expecting this guy to get that's on them.
You swerve and you miss stuff all the time. Yeah, you know,
you just you gotta be aware. And luck has a big part of it
idea. Yeah, you know. I hit a deer once and I was
sideways thinking, all shit, this is gonna hurt. That's gonna hurt.
And then I hit the deer again and it straightened me up. They had
nothing to do with my ability. That was dumb. Fuck luck, And
you know I came out of it. How bad did you call the zoo
and tell them that you hit it? They could feed it to the lines.
That was something we talked about the other day. No, how scary
is that on the bike? It's only two or three seconds, so you
don't Yeah, you don't think it? Yeah, how much damage to your
bike? Any Nothing? I've done more damage on potholes, Yeah, all
roads man, that's something we took out. My whole front room got.
Yeah. Last easter. I think it was a pothole on four ninety.
You hit it, flattened it right out. We were doing we were doing
sixty coming into a turn. My wife was with me on the back and
we hit that pothole. It launched us over in the other lane. And
we straightened it up and yeah, pulled over, but it bent you all
up. Oh yeah, we had to get towed. Yeah. So do
you do any of your own fabrication on that kind of stuff? No?
Nothing, We wrenched it a little bit. Yeah, you know, do
the brakes and do that kind of stuff. Yeah. Did you ever,
at any point in your riding career ever have eight hangers? Were you?
You didn't? He still does what you do that high? Yeah, But
I mean I've seen I don't know how the hell you ride that either.
How do you ride that? I've seen maybe one or two in my life.
Yeah, you do, but it's like you can't, Like you need
to have some leverage on that thing. There's the physics, just the world
of physics. It doesn't work. I never understood it. Going down the
road is fine because you don't start right lean. Yeah, yeah, everything's
leant. Ever, but when you're in a city and you yes, that's
what I'm saying, or even on a road like if I'm going, if
I'm riding five and twenty and I need to turn off, it's I still
got to turn once in a while. You're right, But I always wonder
how the how you rode one of those. Now I can do. Yeah,
how many bikes do you have to to How many years you've been riding?
Seven? Seven years? No, you've only been riding for seven years.
Wow, what got you to do it? I used to ride a
little bit, okay, Yeah, I had like little Hondas and yeah,
right, and it made me push up to the school. Yeah and ride.
Hondas weren't bad, they're not. They weren't Harley's though, No,
they weren't Harley's. But they used to talk about that in Roseann. I
used to win. I used to want it. I'll ask, I'll ask,
because there was a time when I was really close and when I was
in my twenties thinking like I should get a motorcycle blah blah blah. And
I really liked the Virago only because it was cheaper. It was more like
there ain't but it was still like more of a touring bike than it was,
you know, the crowd rocket type thing, which did look like fun
but always scared the ship out of me. Yeah, did you ride those?
I know, I've never owned one. I've ridden one, yeah,
the crowd rocket. Yeah, and it was I got off, I was
shaking and how fast did you go? I don't know. One on just
a street, yeah, Jesus, And it was just you know, it's
just canal days, you know it. Sidewalk I love sidewalks. Sidewalks are
great because there's never cars on sidewalks, and I ride on them as much
as I can. You're fullish? Where in what in your with your big
ass bike all the time? You do not go to Victor down to the
black Diamond. My bike sparked on the sidewalk right in front of it.
But you we uh we We took a child from grand jury. She went
to grand jury and everything. Yeah, this is a foster child. She
was in a new school, and so we took her back to school.
Okay, all right, Well I took her right down the sidewalk right up
to the front door. Oh well that and you know heurt the kids in
there, screw out the window. It made such an adjustment for her.
Sure you're a hero from being the outcast. Hey, look at her,
she's cool. Principal came out and bitched a little bit because motorcycles on the
sidewalk and something about a bus loose, you know whatever, it's it was
laughable. It's seventh period. But that's why I mean, I love I
love sidewalks. I know we're giving a Spanish test. I don't. I
don't. Teaching is a tough job. My wife's a teacher, but I
would always think that, who were your wife too? Yeah? I was
gonna say, are you no? What does she teach English? Okay?
So the cops she teaches. She teaches ghostwriter how to write essays. No
ghost writer probably have to write grants and things for BAKA. Well we we
personally don't. I know we have grant writers. They're grant writers. But
I bet you could do it. But chat GPT now his emails. I
want to see it. How many missing participles? And I read NonStop?
I read two or three books a week. Do you read all the time?
I love it. I can't spell anything? Okay between Okay, I
got to drop the which I'm sorry, No, no, not at all,
not at all. What I was going to say, take you to
see me when we're at a church. We are not roll body still there.
What I was going to say is uh oh sat John Fisher reportedly on
lockdown amid an active police investigation, didn't do that lacrosse game though, no,
I just came in. What I was going to say is I always
have to say when I'm writing stuff because I can't spell either. And there's
this one program I use that doesn't give me the red line to let me
know how idiots spelled it, I say, and I don't want to.
I always ask my phone. I'll say, hey, Siri, how do
I spell or spell this? I do that serious cat, thanks, but
I do it to keep it quiet. But I'm telling you ghost all the
time. I can't. I don't know why, I just I can't.
And then I've gotten to the point where I don't even try. I just
go. I know that I have a device that's going to do it for
me. And I'll tell you chat GPT too. Man, they'll write an
email for you. They'll do anything, just load that up and AI does
it all. Yeah, but they're not gonna understand my mind frame. No,
that's true. You're gonna there is no way ghost write or wrote this,
no way exactly. They're all gonna took over your computer. We do
a lot of emails, so AKA communicates and if it's just a local chapter,
I just thumb them out on the phone. But yeah, I'm on
the State Board of State Essa. So if I got to sten stuff to
different chapters or international and all that. Yeah, yeah, his wife,
no, no, I t time and you know it's Alexa. How to
fuck do you spell this? Yeah? And then shut the fuck up,
Alexa? Yeah, talking too much? Yeah? What books are you reading?
Mine? Asking are you speed reader? Because you say you read three
books a week? I usually have a couple of going a week. How
anyway is my favorite? Is it? Really? It's kind about it.
He's a drunk, He's a trunk. You lived a man's life. He's
my hero. Yeah, okay, anyway, and then anything history wise,
history real wow, oh man, I would love to see you brought it
as a guest lecture to a college. We've got history, We've done,
we did mcc I gotta think this would be awesome, you know, to
talk to him about bikers. What's your favorite time period in history? Do
you have a something that you like? Said? American history. It's definitely
American American, I would say, you know, the Old West. I
used to I used to buy and sell horses all my dad every day he
did. Yeah, so I've ridden and sold thousands of horses, you watch
Yellowstone, that's what the horseshoe tattoos. Okay, I've watched it. Yeah,
sold horses now rons hogs. I got a picture of my daughter on
a horse with me when she was like three years old, and then a
picture of my grandson when he was three years old, and Harley. Oh
that's funny, that's cute. That's that's a nice little keepsake. So horses,
like race horses or just everything. My dad that's all you do is
buy and sell. He do three year Yeah, well horses are maybe get
the right on man. He can make a nice buck off some of these
things. It's just a lot of a lot of work, knowing the circles
and stuff. I grew up down in northern Dutchess County, so there were
people that would come up and had weekend homes from Manhattan and stuff. And
I used to help one family clear trails so they could ride horses, and
these snobs to do progressive dinners on horseback. They would start out with appetizers
at one house and then they would go and have the entree and desert at
the next. But they would ride horses and was through trails, and horses
can spook man. I remember getting knocked off a low hanging branch. The
horse got spooked, and I mean you can really, you know, f
yourself up there because it's a far fall man. These things are like,
yeah, yeah, yeah he did fall. Four horse went on a horse
tour of this in Austin, Texas. We went to a ranch for work,
right, and they say, okay, listen, if you if you're
really to control your horse, he shouldn't be eating on the trail. And
my horse pretty much ate all the way around and my wife's yelling at me,
my boss, what's going on with this horse? What I like,
can't I have a stack? Uh? Well, fellas, show me some
more of the stuff there that you have that you handed out, because I
know there was a blanket and a pillowcase, b backpack. They get their
pillowcase. This is all in the backpack. This is all on the backpack.
Wow, that's cool. That's a Halloween bag. Actually, they get
their night light here, which shines. The thing was, this has been
in a bag for like years and I finally took it out and plugged it
in and took a picture of it. Yeah, everybody, nobody know what
the hell it looked like or if it even worked. I was like,
I can see if it works, So that's pretty It worked, and it's
really cool. Actually, I think it's a great thing for the kid.
And then on their birthdays they get the back blanket. That's really soft.
Man, that's cool. Wow, that's uh night. Yeah. We actually,
you know, it was before my time, but we had a kid
who at the initial wouldn't come out from under the table. And by the
time she was done with Bacca, she was walking down to the park with
its wrapped around her. That's awesome. Yeah, she wouldn't leave the house.
We came in late after her original court, but with her going to
court once, other people came forward and when they tried to purp again,
she went to court. She wanted to see them handcuffed. She did.
Yeah, oh yeah, she stayed right there. She wanted to. I
wanted to see everything. Yeah, so just to know, and there's probably
something just knowing, you know, you can tell me that this person's never
going to bother me again. But when I see that, I'll know.
We do an empowerment ride, okay, and we rode by the Purpse house
and made a lot of noise because she was afraid to be in that part
of town. And I got a call from her mother saying that she was
heading down to the park with her friends, which she hadn't done in two
years, and she had the Bacca blanket wrapped around her. Now, the
blanket says bacha Lakers against Child Abuse. So if you're wearing that, you
don't have to be a genius to figure that probably whoever's got it's been abused.
Yeah, but at that point, you know, she realized she was
a survivor, not a victim. And that's that's the biggest thing. You
know, a lot of these children that are abused, they end up being
abusers when they get older. You know, That's what it's called behavior.
We're trying to break the chain. We see that sometimes in our children also,
ne're being rough and abusive with their younger siblings. Yeah, and you
know, it's it's a chain that needs needs to be broken otherwise it's never
going to end completely. But it's never going to come close to ending you
unless we can do something about it. And that's you know, kids are
our future. I'm if somebody listening wanted to join your organization, can they
email? Is there a way to contact you can you can go to blochaworld
dot org. Okay, and then look up the Rochester. It'll go to
the chapters by state. Go to Rochester and it'll tell you where our monthly
meeting is. Come to the monthly meeting. It's the third Sunday. See
what's what? Just for my wife. My wife just tells me where to
go second Sunday of the month at the Moosladge in Henrietta and come do three
months consecutive. And then the board talks if we think that you fit in,
because we got to feel you're going to fit in because we have no
room for drama, no room for nothing. In the summertime, a lot
of times we're on the road every weekend. Last year, I think we
had seven weekends we had we were bringing children in And you know that's seven
weekends in a row where I'm doing stuff and then we're doing it turned a
week. That's basically two months. It's two months a weekends. Right,
Yeah, you know, how do you how do you fit in? We
don't fit in, you know what I mean? We did twelve thousand miles
last year just for Bacca kids, just for the stuff that was BAKA kids
not coming with me and butch do for agencies, presentations and all that stuff.
I do over twenty thousand miles on a bike a Year'd you ride today?
No? We did not. My bikes I don't have ou yet.
There's still so much salts on our road. Agree, I was gonna ask
you how many months a year do you have? Any degrees? At two
o'clock, I know what the hell is that. It's a clash of the
seasons, is what we got to going on. The truck rolled by the
house just before I left. There's no saying how much we ride if we
had something with a kid right now, stop with the numbers, learn I'll
I'm talking about a month. There's only twelve them. Yeah, I can
handle that. Twelve months a year. If we will ride in December January
to go to a kid because we're bikers against child abuse, you will ride
and if the roads are safe, we'll do it. Because if we were
cars against child abuse and be kaka. So they get they get They get
a lot out of the bikers here. There's something to be said when when
you hear a bunch of bikes roll, there's a cool sound and then they
come in My first level one I ever did. We pulled in the neighborhood.
It was a subdivision, and we can pull up to the house and
the neighbors are grabbing their kids and running into the house. Oh they did.
I'm looking at that. We're laughing. And next thing you know,
we're on the mud playing soccer. Yeah, you got fat bikers falling down
face first in the mud and shit. And then all of a sudden,
the neighbors want to come out. You know, can my kids play with
you too? Yeah? Because they right, Well, it's an intimidating look
at first. I remember one time, remember when we had the parties in
the park, or not the parties in the park, but the take back
to the beach thing, right, Yes. So we had this band,
Jay Fry, I don't know if you know him. Jay Fry has this
band called the Dirty White Boys. So they're they're the headlining band of the
four bands. And they made sure that they had a motorcycle like entourage escorting
them to the stage, like they had like twelve bikes, and then a
van this then this other truck with horns on the front, and then Jay
Fry at his van pulled up. He walks out, grabs his base and
they just start playing like it was no big deal with it was the coolest
they've ever seen. And we take the kids down the ride too, you
know, if they want to go. We have a ride team set up
for that. The child's in the middle as long as they can reach the
foot pegs. And we have got we have one bike actually that the pegs
flip up six inches, so oh cool. You know, we throw them,
throw them. They must love that man. You know, they'll be
on the back. You'll see him first. They're like, got the you
got the cut like that, you know. And by the time you get
around the second corner and they're like, you know, left, turn right,
Tom and ghost rider. You don't have a sidecar, do you that
you could hook up? Maybe I could take it right? We do.
We do have a member in our Niagara Falls chapter. Actually, you know
what we got We have a Rochester member. Now double the sidecar double.
I used to love watching dukes of Hazard and the old lady that had the
motorcycle and Uncle Jesse would get in the sidecar, but the sidecar would shoot
off like you would go off and see Uncle Jesse going over and jump and
she's riding and always just made me laugh. But I'm going to I know,
damn well, he does not have a sidecar, but I will ask.
But we do in Rochester. He just got a new one. He's
got a sidecar. We have a trick in Rochester. I don't think i'd
want to be in a sidecard today when I think about ryding so long we
do it with a little list of kids. Yeah, yeah, at our
age. We haven't talked about that. Our ages is five to eighteen.
Once you're over eighteen, aged out, unless you're going in the process,
still going to court and we stick with you. But once you're over eighteen,
we'd have to fingerprint you to have you back. Around h and under
five, it's tough for them to really understand what's going on. Yep.
And we're not big brother, we're not big sister. We're not here for
the duration. We're not here to help mom fix your car. We're not
there to freaking help the house and do stuff. We're here strictly in the
power to kids. We have times where we tell mom and dad listen,
it's not about you, it's about the kids. Step away, get back
you know, we don't even need to discuss with you. We're here for
the child, to empower the child. Any when the kids come through the
program that have now joined in as members. Not in Rochester, we haven't
been around long enough, but in the country, yes, and we have
kids that talk about it and say they're they're gonna do it. It's tough
for an eighteen year old to do it. The money, the time,
and those bikes and are cheap. Yeah, nothing, nothing is cheap.
And it's time and you're eighteen, you're just start out. You're a college
you got all last time. Yeah. We've had a couple of college kids
try to join, uh and then they just realize the time restrictions. It
is. It's very much. You know, like I was on the phone
and doing emails all day today. Uh. You know, we're on the
road. We've been on the road at least once a week, and then
on the weekends we spend time with the MC community because we have to live
by the MC communities. They allow us to do what we do, and
we spend time with the kids. As a primary you're you're always doing follow
ups with your kids. Yeah, and so you you know, short but
just making sure your kid could be in almaira So three hours of yeah,
face to face, not a FaceTime, not a face to face. I've
been out geocash in with my kids and go to a park and just play
games. Sometimes just hang out. Yeah, you know, same thing,
just whatever they want to do, just to get some face to face time.
Well, I'm impressed, guys. Some of our kids are high security
too. There's a security risk and we have to have a security team.
There's a high risk to either the purpse questionable. The Great State of New
York doesn't put anybody in jail anymore. Let everybody out of jail. Uh.
So we see people on the streets, so you if the Purpse are
you know, threatening stuff or depending on the location, inner city. I'm
not sending two guys the inner city with your motorcycles parked out on the street.
So a lot of times there's there's four or five of us that have
to go to these follow ups. Is it always at least two? Always
never won, And it's got to be two patch members, not a supporter.
Uh, you know members going through all the training. Yeah, and
you know the boards have proved him two or three times. Yeah, I'm
very impressed by the whole thing, and he really got a solid organization like
run top the bottom. Just listening to you talk and the fact that you're
stepping into some tough situations that most of us aren't aware of. Well,
we haven't talked about a level two yet. A level two is when there's
immediate danger. Yeah, you did mention that, but what does that mean.
It's usually, oh, you said, somebody's shooting and stuff. Well,
we've we've had issues with that in different states. A level two is
if there's say the usually the purp knows the family. Yeah, so say
the purp goes in the house, leaves the note on the refrigerator, trying
to scare the child not to testify, all right, and it's not taking
a lot scared his child. The child's already scared. So if you get
something like that, or say the purpse driving around, parking out front of
the house, keeping his distance on his restraining order, but being there,
we will go. And we will be there at twenty four to seven with
four to six people. I don't know how many people it takes to surround
the house. The house, the home chapter wherever the child is responsible for
the first forty eight hours. Then we call chapters in from different states,
from the eight chapters in New York, and we surround and keep that child
safe. If they leave, we clear the house. When they come back,
we escort of wherever they're going. Usually, if this happens, the
props walk through a restraining order or so, usually the police pick them up
within a couple of days, but if not, we'll do whatever it takes.
To me, you're always kind of a bit of a mystery. The
only thing they're good for is the paper back to you got paper trail.
That's about it. I'm just saying I had a paper trail. This is
the thing. But god, some of that stuff doesn't mean anything. And
then that are all the people I think make them look useless because somebody gets
pulled over for speeding and oh, by the way, I have a restraining
order against my boyfriend, but he's in the passenger seat, you know what
I mean. That just makes it come on, now we're now it's just
a weaponizing it when it really does serve a purpose, as you're saying,
But again, it's it's just a paper trail. A lot of times it's
almost mandatory with the children Now, when the children are first going through their
first interviews, those are being put up. We usually get copies of them
and everything, so we have those and what we do is called an initial
visit. It's the first time three or four of us board members go to
meet the child and the parents get their parents to sign off certain things,
and we talked to a child, make sure the child wants us. We've
had kids that didn't think bikers are cool. They didn't want us around,
and in part because you know, there's a victim and it's proven they're the
victim, and they just trying to ignore everything. So we talked to a
child. That's when the child picks out their road name. They pick out
the road name they want for themselves. And at that point the sergeant arms
head of security will pull off the guardian and talk to them, you know,
get a picture of the purp, what they drive. Uh, does
the child have any fears, any triggers that's gonna set them off. We've
had children there bald heads. You know the purp of bald head. So
anybody in our chapter you got a bald head, you're putting a freaking hat
on and go teases. We walked around like this a little bit. We
really, you know, get to know the child, find out what we
can do to help the child, and help the child as fast as we
can. And once we're done with court a lot of times we're just a
reminder of it all. We move on. Yeah, I see what you're
saying. Once we move on, we still invite them to the summer pick
in the winter party and that kind of stuff. But uh, yeah,
no, we moved on to next child. What's the Is there anything higher
than a level two? There used to be three and four? Canada figured
they were It wasn't it was too too conservative for Canada. Three and four
was stupid. Yeah, they said it fringe down the purpse rights. Okay,
so we had to get rid of them. That's Canada for you,
all right. Well, I think this is could pick their own gender encounter
the spaghetti dinner is when April seventh? April seventh? Should we have you
should? Right? Should we have your back? Like closer to the date
with that, with that, you know, closer to the date, and
we'll hit it again. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's probably a smart
way to do it. But a good thing. And I think no,
I didn't know about this organization, so I was it was really nice to
meet you guys and to learn about it. Yeah, man, we appreciate
you taking the time. Yeah, it's you know, it's all awareness and
getting the word out. Yeah. I'm very impressed by you though. Ghost
Rider, did you pick that name out yourself? Yeah, it's you know,
we all ride with ghosts. Yeah, okay, and then you know
the ghost Rider tattoo. It's got the rider and the horse, the ghost
horse in the background. Ghost Rider is like, he's a big softie.
He's a big softie's got a big heart. That guy can tell I can.
I mean, honestly, you know, fun tell anybody you don't fuck
with this Nobody. There are boundaries. Nobody listens to this, right,
there are no boundaries. I mean, there are boundaries with this guy.
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yeah, Kobe copied Michael Jordan, but fucking Michael Jordan's fucking copied doctor Ja.
Go to the tape, Danny, and be sure to like and subscribe
to Bilified wherever you get your pop. I don't know why, Danny.
I don't know why you get to call on that one. I'm not I
don't know either. I don't know either a lot of people are writing comments
on our Facebook page and stuff because they can see right into the studio and
there, and they're you're welcome, Get on the mica, get on the
yeah, put on the headphones. Let's go, fellow the show. You're
here, you're on, Yeah, let's go. What I got a uh,
well, those are some scary looking dudes, but what sweethearts? Yeah,
that's see, That's the thing I'm just saying, don't judge a book
by discover the I tell that person to tell my wife that when Doug,
sweetheart, that was Doug. Tell my wife, Uh, well, you
got to be doing something right. You somehow convinced four women to marry you,
is what you told me. Congratulations. They were all shot gun wedding,
all except for the last one. The last one was perfect. It's
great. I have the greatest wife in the world. See, if you're
listening, I love you. Yeah. I put out something asking if anybody
needed advice on things okay, and I got I sifted through and I picked
out two of these. On one of these kind of I could relate to
because I think it's a prank. Not the letter, but I think what
happened is a prank. But with these guys here, I would love to
hear what Butch and Ghostwrider have to say in terms of advice of this.
I'm thirty five, divorced five years. The other day I was helping my
boyfriend clean his car inside and out nice weather. What started off as a
fun little task that really needed to be done, turned into a nightmare.
As he was scrubbing the outside of the car, I focused on all the
crap piled everywhere on the inside. This guy sounds like a winner. Okay,
all right, and you've seen these card you ever get out of a
car in a parking lot? And he looked down into another like I have
a truck. So he stepped down and I always look in and I,
oh, god, damn, some people are slaves. Oh yeah, holders,
yeah, yeah, I get all their shitting the d around. Yeah,
it's another thing. It's like and they can't see the bike coming up
behind him. I thought this guy was moving, so as he was scrubbing
the absolute car, I was focused on the crap as of vacuuming the front
floor mats. I pulled out something stuffed under the passenger seat. I felt
ill as I realized it was a pair of women's panties. Okay, okay,
positively not mine, not my size, and definitely not my style.
Way skimpier than anything I would wear. Too bad. I demanded an explanation,
and he said he had no idea how they got there, and that
he had nothing to do with it. We've been together for three years and
I simply don't know how to process this. They didn't fly into his car
on their own. I can't stop thinking about this, the possibilities have me
very upset. I would love to hear, uh what you think now here
was what I thought we did. When I worked in Poughkeepsie, they did
bras across the Hudson so they did it for breast cancer. And there was
one that there was one bra. It was a black bra and it probably
the side I'm going to go into the size of ghost Rider's head could have
fit in one of these. So somebody stuffed it underneath this front seat of
one of the other guy's cars, waiting to see you know, who would
find it. I don't remember who found it. Now I'm thinking it's the
same thing if my buddy has a filthy car and I can shove a pair
of panties in there. Yeah, I think it'd be funny. Yeah,
I think somebody might have been the press. I'm thinking if he's saying,
I don't know, because I guarantee you this, If the car's that messy,
no Brod's taking off or clothed in that, there's nothing happened. You
think, what did he own the car before he owned her? I don't
know that previous administration. Yeah, yeah, obviously if they're skimpy and they're
small. You know, he's likes something a little different. Yeah, well
that's true too. That gives you that's right, you spice it up for
his size. That's a scary thought because the others do that. That's an
I wait, that's a good that's very good because they whether they were No,
they just said skimpier. She didn't say size. That's a good point.
Skimp Yeah. No, Well skimpier is just a smaller in terms of
you know, less, like maybe a thong. Maybe he likes the thong.
I don't know. I don't know. I'm a visual person. I
don't You don't want to picture a butcher of thun. I don't want to
picture me, all right. I thought maybe a prank day, Yeah,
I think a prank would be the thing. Or or maybe he had a
buddy who had to hide something real quick, so he just you know,
did that. He's like he was, I just throw it in my buddys
car and nobody, you know, way get rid of it. I don't
remember who leaves their pain. Usually that's the first thing they grab. Yeah,
right, if it's a If it's a prank, though, you would
have stained them up a little bit to make it interesting. And usually if
it's a prank, you do it with the giant grandma. Yes, yes
you do, yes you do. You want those big old bloomers. As
a matter of fact, if you could, you'd hang them round on the
antenna. How about this? How about she planted them trying to get admit
to something else? Oh that could be I never even thought of that.
They were never run of the cars, and they just came out of her
pocket, wish fishing. I did read the thing saying that more women are
psychopaths than than we think. Really, it was an article, honestly,
and I thought, and it was written by a male doctor, So I'm
like, I'm sure women are gonna love this, But what are you saying
is like men psychopathic men are more aggressive. So we know about them,
we know about the serial killer type and all this stuff, but the women
have this way of being like verbally abusive and cold and all the same tendencies,
just with less physical action behind it. Okay, yeah, And then
like I was listening to a woman today tell me that, uh, she
has a friend who's dating a guy and she's very upset when like the guy
hasn't changed her profile picture and when the guy, the guy likes like she
went through all his Instagram stuff and saw that she posted something and he didn't
like it. And she he likes some other woman Instagram posted she But these
aren't young people. We're talking people in their thirties, like these early forties.
And I'm going and this person who's explained to me as a woman,
and she goes, she's psychotic. Yeah, that shit. You just need
to go out to have dinner and fucking be done with it. Yes,
don't go through my page, your pages whatever. Now it is no,
All right, here's one I think you could relate to. I doubt it.
I'm a forty year old dad and I'm having troubled keeping my mouth shut
about my twenty year old son's girlfriend. Why do I think he can relate
to this one? She's cute and all that, which is what I'm thinking
he sees in her. But I don't think my son truly realizes what a
manipulative gameplaying user he's hooked up with. And I think he's really gonna get
hurt. Here's my problem. I know he's twenty and it's his life to
lead, but I still feel like I need to do something to protect him.
It's better. Is it better to step in and say it it's for
his own good? Or let him get get over being mad and let him
get over me mad at me? Or should I sit back and watch in
horror as the inevitable happens and then help him clean up the mess afterwards?
I think you wait. I would wait and clean up the mess after that.
I'm not gonna go mess with first time? Yes, what's the second
time? No? I would make myself available so that way, like,
so, how's the relationship going? And you know it's bad? You know
what? He would ask, but like okay, and then you had to
like ask leading questions like a lawyer in court, and then try to get
them to kind of admit and talk themselves into that this chick's not good for
me. Here would be my strategy, honestly, if I saw this,
I would try to get like if I would say, hey, you should
have everybody over and like yeah, and then when a peer is there another
I would go, what do you think of his girlfriend? Yeah? Yeah,
I just did them to go man, she because you're not gonna listen
to me. You're not You're not gonna listen to me, but you probably
listen to your buddy. But a couple of buddies of mine in college had
a buddy who had a manipulative girlfriend, and the father, his father and
mother came like, hey, yuh, mister so and so, what do
you think of uh? What's your name over there? Yeah? And he
was like, well, why what do you think of her? We're like,
what's why? I asked you the same thing. He goes, Yeah,
if I know my son, this will this will all implode at some
point. It did, and it did. Did you ever interfere? No?
I would think that my kid would be smart enough and they're just enjoying
the ride. Yeah, I think you're right, Yeah, I hear.
I think sometimes though, as young guys, you get caught up in all
this stuff and you don't even realize what's kind of going on, and all
you know, one day you're standing there and going, what the fuck am
I doing? Person standing outside? Sometimes it takes a while to have some
life experience to learn that. I had to learn it the hard way a
couple of times, you know, so really, Oh yeah I didn't know
that. Yeah, you had to learn it the hard way, daddy.
Yeah, my current marriage is every day I'm sitting a new record for marriage.
Good for you. That's awesome. Yeah, that's a good thing.
Uh. You guys talked, did you really go to MCC and teach a
history class or speaking of history class? We were a guest speakers there for
Baka or talk about Bacca to talk about bikers in general, I mean,
because you know, bikers in general are a little different average society. Yes,
yeah, what what what is it? What? What would you say
biker life is like they give? When you say different from society? What
are you saying? Oh, I don't know, you know, not you're
not going to be the clean cut fit into the whatever, you know,
the country club, but whatever. Definitely we're very protective of what we have.
Yes, uh, just a common Uh well we you know our old
ladies, it's not old, it's not O L D, it's O L
Yeah, they're old ladies. Yeah. You know, some people think that's
disrespectful, but let me tell you. Our women are very protected. Yes,
no one's going to mess with them, right and and they're proud of
that role. Yeah, you know, and it's not a you know,
you can't be a feminist and be a baker. You know, it just
doesn't it doesn't fit in. It's it's everything's very conservative, very militant.
Yep. But that's what makes everything work, makes it work. Yeah.
Uh, this is a news story since we had talked about abuse. Uh,
a seventy five year old guy was substitute teaching. And this is a
teammate and a seventy five year old substitute team who says he was assaulted by
a student earlier this month. He's sharing his story now because he says the
student was never arrested. Itmate's Cody Fisher sat down with the teacher who tells
his side of the store. No, it's not it's not in Rochester.
But it's a seventy five year old teacher. And just in terms of when
we talk about consequences and things, we saw the stuff with the Kia boys
this summer. This never disturbed it. Itmate's Cody Fisher sat down with the
teacher who tells his side of the story. Before Rob Gooding was taken by
ambulance from Perry Meridian High School to the hospital, he told school police he
wanted to press charges. Nearly a month later, the student still hasn't been
charged anything like this ever happened. No, No. Rob Gooding started substitute
teaching after he retired. He was in the middle of teaching a business class
at Perry Meridian High School when a student attacked it. I saw him come
up and he says, I've had it. And he came down and I
walked the colone book. That's where that whole every kid gets a chrome down
like this, and then all of a sudden he hovered over me and with
his left hand, wham me. The assault left him with a severe black
eye. You got to see this black eye. Now again, it's an
older guy, right, seventy five You're going to breathe, you know,
in a little bit. Yeah. The police officer was by his side.
Immediately. You said, I want to press charts. Yes, he said
to me, we have been instructed by the higher ups, which is the
district, not too handcuffed or arrest the kid. Now. I know that
you do five to eighteen, but this guy got to be use could you
help him out? I laugh, I mean we laughed, but that you
know, it's seventy five years old. My dad was a teacher forever and
I think if he he loved going back and subbing after not not anymore.
He's in it's nearly eighty. But he uh, you know that what the
fuck he's too old to defend himself. What the fuck? Yeah, now
that's ridiculous. Teachers do not get the respect that he deserve. No,
I mean, they're there for a reason, and it's probably one of the
most difficult jobs. Yeah. I never got along with a teacher, but
I always respected him from what they did. You know, they had a
job to do. Yes, yes, right, I I don't. I'm
just I'm just talking about in terms of assault. And you mentioned earlier.
You know, in New York State we let people out. We do this
the I think in theory the bail reform law. But what I mean that
theory went just out the fucking window. I mean it just went out the
window. It was supposed to be. But it was supposed to be.
Like you know, Danny's uh, working a job. He's got a couple
of little priors, you know, snatching grab type shit, and all of
a sudden, Uh, he stole a six pack of Jenny Beer. And
that's to prevent him from not having to go to work. You know,
you can still go to work tomorrow, Danny, and all that appearance ticket
would let you out. You know, you can still pay your taxes and
pay rent and all that stuff. That was the purpose of it. Ain't
what's happening, Not at all. That's bad. I would like to think
if I'm seventy five and I got beat up by some kids, my grandkids
are gonna go make it right. Well. I got to tell you something.
When I heard that story, I thought, if that were my old
man, I would want to show I personally would want to show up at
the kid's house. I don't know, I would be that like, I'm
going if this, if I don't know this gentleman. They don't say anything
about family or anything in the rest of the news story, but I'm like,
man, if that's your old man, aren't you showing up at that
kids? Yeah? Some way. The worst thing is that the kids parents
are probably defending him, saying he was justified. And you know, it's
one of those deals where the kid's never rung, so the kid's never known
any consequences, any actions, or any reactions for his actions when you're seeing
I mean, do you see that kind of behavior with adults through the box
of stuff. And by that I mean like some of the families and things
that you see the interaction where it's never their fault and it's always see with
some of the kids. Yeah, I mean we see all different you do,
shape size, I mean we see it with the kids. Do you
still work construction? I don't work at all, Okay, but you did
for how many years? Did you do? You run your own Yeah,
my whole run your own shot the whole I got I think I got out
of my own business and two thousand and six or something like that. Okay,
So throughout did you see people you hired for your own business? Quality
drop people? It was tough. One of the reasons I got out.
It was tough to find anybody that wanted to work, that wanted to work,
that wanted wanted to warn. Yeah, you just couldn't couldn't find anybody.
Yeah, and the ones you could find were drug addicts and they'd be
here one day, gone to next, right, So that that Yeah,
back then, it was very difficult really, And that's two thousand and six,
and we're hearing the same thing now after the pandemic and stuff, depending
on the industry. But last year I was in business I sent out sixty
four W two's to try to keep a six man crew going. Wow,
I reached out. I reached out to the trade schools. Yeah, uh,
the one Elfred or whatever to one college, reach out to them,
most season all them. If you got anybody that wants to learn, yes,
nothing, what were you doing most full builds, remodeling, remodel,
a lot of big additions, custom bathrooms, cabinets and stuff like that.
Yeah, all great skill man. You couldn't find anybody unepployment. I have
people coming they want to work for you know, let's say they did an
interviews, so they keep their unemployment up. Calling employment say hey, you
know this guy didn't want to work. Well, there's nothing we can do
about it. You give them the unemployment and wow it was bad. Or
you're doing construction too. I'm a painter. You're a painter. Yeah,
you your own thing by myself. Yeah, specifically for those reasons. So
you get subcontracted by guys to come in. Or at least seven eight years
ago, I need to hire somebody because I was doing a project I was
gonna need help on and I was standing in the paint store. Go on,
jeez, you know, I'm probably gonna have to put an ad out
or something thing. And this kid, I call him a kid, he's
probably mid twenties, walks in the door. He's got baggy pants on,
cut off just below the knees with like two cases of cock dried on them,
and a wife beater shirt on, and like this ready old hat crooked
on his head. And I want, that's what's gonna hand my head?
What am I going to do? When am I going to for me?
My doog? You were gonna say, Hey, that's the guy I'm looking
for for me, I'd be like, look, here's twenty bucks, go
to Walmart yourself, pair of jeans yeah, or shorts right, and that
are going to stay up in that fall down yeah, And sleeves on your
shirt so you don't hats forward or its backwards. There's no in between.
How about like, do you ever get subcontracted by Cruise if it's a new
build, No, you're just interior for most people, or exterior too,
exterior anymore, no extra paint even some of the interiors. Kid two over
some of that shit too. Yeah. But I'm just I am curious as
to like when we hear like this it does seem like the level of respect
the way we talk to your elder sort of. You know, there's that
had my son come, he was probably sixteen or seventeen, and he came
to help me one day and it was a new house and I had all
the nail holes and all the trim field and we went into one room.
I go, all right, we got to stand it. Showed them how
to stand it. We stand in the one room down. He goes,
all right, what's next? I go, I got the whole fuck another
thirty six hundred square feet to go. He just went like, when I
do every day? Yeah, you know, yeah, this is how it
is. No but that. But do you get a lot of nice things
because I do it every day? Yeah? Right, I mean that.
That's the other side of it too. It also made him think about like,
well, yeah, what do I want to do? Right well,
I had her shut down on four twenty forget about working on four twenty people
coming slow Stone. It was just unsafe to unsafe to work. It was
like, all right, oh man, we're not working it. It's it's
pretty bad. Limbs. How do you tell you know you're working on someone?
Toss Ay, tell you I'm not going to be there tomorrow. It's
four twenty stone to do anything. You don't want them here. Somebody puts
a nail gun right through the webbing in their hands. I've done that working
for us, you know. And painters were give him four hundred dollars cash
on Friday and he'd show up Saturday morning. We pick him up Saturday morning
and he needed money for cigarettes, sometimes in a different state the next day.
I mean, you're talking like twelve hours later. Painters. Though,
when I when I remember painters, there were some of those guys drink all
day long and they were putting it in their coffee. They were no,
wait, you said it like it's a bad thing. I don't know that
it's a bad thing. You could never tell. The guy did great work,
like it needed no tape, Like if I painted anything in that when
I had the house, I had to tape off every everything, and I
still got shipping there. These guys were amazing and they were drinking, like
I remember. I remember being like fifteen to seventeen years old working on the
and going, holy shit, I was impressive as well, really impressive.
Not you all right, we will wrap it up, Baka again April eighth,
seven seventh eighth is the UH Club, So you're one day before so
that's a Sunday Sunday. That's a Sunday because Monday the eighth is the ECLIPS.
Yeah really, yeah, right, you should apparently scared. The school
districts gave them the day all of it. Yeah, because it's they're expecting
traffic to be brutal. Yeah, oh yeah, they weren't that one little
yeah strip were in that strip, So that's why. Yeah, even today,
my mother is supposed to come up and then she's called me and said,
I'm hearing traffic's gonna be terrible. I don't know if I should go.
I go, what you come up on like Friday? Well Thursday?
And she's like, well no, but I mean I have a friend.
My mom went to Nazareth, right, but I grew up down state.
She still had some of her friends she went to nas with her. Here
she's going to Philadelphia to meet her grandchild. And since she's coming back Tuesday,
bitch, she's so worried about the traffic. Traffic's gonna be go.
Where do you have to go? Stay on a Wednesday? Who cares?
I'm like this makes no fucking sense. And on that note, at anybody
coming into this state for the eclipse, Yeah, come out of Spaghetta the
day before. I would say that it's a great thing. Go out to
the Moose Club and have a great spaghetti dinner. Fifteen bucks. Fifteen bucks.
Let me tell you something. You can pay twenty if you want.
I'm going to tell you you can't go anywhere for lunch for fifteen dollars right
meal, you can't, absolutely minimum. And we have our own meals too.
We don't even get our meals free. We're all about the kids.
Why aren't you to Oh that makes sense, Yeah, that makes sense.
That makes sense Because I was going to say, who's telling you you to
pay? Who's telling me for a ghost rider? For Butch, for Dan
Barrillo, for Kevin Muir. I'm Bill Moran, will see you tomorrow.
The Big Old Tale. Didn't know what to do. I'm trying to teav
don't do the letter to you Dan