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London Calling. Many of them asked in their emails why this vitally important issue
was not being taken more seriously by many of my honorable and right honorable colleagues.
That, mister w Speaker is a question for my colleagues to answer.
A lot more questioned. Why as evidence continues to emerge, almost on a
daily basis, the Fourth Estate will so remiss in its coverage that mister deput
Speaker is a question for the lobby to answer. Welcome to London Calling with
me, James Delingpole and my very good friend mister Toby Young Tobes, I
am utterly bereft. Why what's what's happened? It's the end of the hunting
season. Had I had my last hunt on Saturday and it was a really
it was a fitting end to the season. We had a field. That's
the number of riders following the hunt of I think it was one hundred and
fifty three or one hundred and fifty four, which is a lot. I
mean, very rarely to hunts get that many people. I think maybe some
of the I think that bothfort possibly gets that, but most of them.
And you weren't a follower. You were in the kind of you were.
You were part of the hunt and being followed, were you. No,
no, no, you've got terminology wrong. That the field are all the
riders, that what you are as a mounted spectator. The hunt is just
the body of the huntsman and the whippers in right, a very small number
of people. But the field are the people on horseback who follow in their
in their black coats or their red coats or whatever. And you have a
red coat or a black coat, James a black coat. But you know
what, even if I were entitled to a red coat, I think I'd
probably still wear black. I can't. I like black, and red's a
bit, it's a bit in your face. The reason that you wear red
really is so that you can be seen. So for example, if you're
the field master and everyone has to follow you, then clearly it's quite important
that you you be you stick out. But everyone else I think I think
black is black or or navy blue is good, but it's kind. You
would reject red on the grounds that it's a bit in your face, and
yet being atop a horse with a black tailcoat on, wearing white job pers
shouting tally cream creamed cream job. That's that's quite understated, is it very
very in predicted? Well, I think you want to you want to kind
of blend in. I think understated is is good? Um, but it
doesn't sound it was. It was particularly it was particularly exciting for me because
I broke my my hedge due to you that this time last year, I
I jumped ahead, poked something else, didn't you know, No, No,
that those ages ago, I jumped aheade rather badly and came off and
my horse, my horse ran off. And when he came back, when
he was retrieved for me, my loose horse, I found that my saddle
flask, which had previously been full of the finest aged slowgein, had been
drunk almost dry by the by the lads who retrieved the horse. So it
was not only humiliating, but it was also kind of depressing, falling off
ahage and and and and thereafter I was I didn't do any more hedges that
day. I was all nervous and stuff. And this this day I knew
there were going to be hedges, and I knew that somehow I had to
face my demons. And so I saw this hedge approaching and I thought,
oh bloody, I so do not want to do this. It was a
it was a head, it was going down a slope, so you had
to take it sort of going going across across the slope. And then I
heard somebody else say, oh, well it's you know, it's it's not
as it's perfectly doable your manage, and I thought, well, I'm going
to manage too. So what you've got to do with a hedge? You
kick on and you you hope the horse, the horse has enough momentum and
enough desire to go over the hedge, and you kind of leave, You
leave you your horse to me to make up its mind. Um, but
you've got a lot of time. You've got a long run up, a
lot of time in which to see the hedge getting bigger and bigger and bigger
as you get closer, and a lot of time to get quite quite nervous.
And I have to say it is the most exciting thing about hunting.
It is like when you're when you're you're sort of milling around and then you
see a hedge ahead of you, and you realize that this is where where
you're going, and the field master leads you forward and the horses suddenly pick
up speed, and that you can feel this this sort of excitement spreading across
it's across the hunt. It's like being in a cavalry charge. And you
all hurl yourselves at this hedge, unless you want to go round, of
course, but I mean then you you don't have to take turns. You
sort of you're all jumping this edge. That's the good thing about hedges.
That's where we like hedges, because it's the last It's some people say that
that hunting died at in the early twentieth century when when there was a lot
more wire um, you know, there was a lot less country to hunt
and so on. But and because in the old days you could take your
own line. You you didn't follow a fieldmaster. You just went wherever you
wherever you could to get over. And yeah, so with a hedge,
you can all jump over in line abreast or pretty much and you take your
own line. And it's very exciting because, as you can imagine, you
spend more time airborne because hedges is wider than offense um. And anyway,
it's great. I did seven hedges and well, yeah, you know a
hedge master. Yeah, and and and when you've done it, you come
out the other side and you're still alive, and you you look at the
person next to you, who who like as not as this attractive girl,
and you say, wow, how cool is that? She goes, yeah,
yeah, it's great. It really is flirting on horseback, like you
Lee, James, Well, I I I had, in my own way
a very exciting experience. I was a guest of one of the senior executives
at Queen's Park Rangers football club. At the club on Saturday's, I was
invited to the executive dining room and then the director's box to watch the game
qprv Birmingham, a must win game which we of course went on to lose.
But and I thought, are they is this senior execut sizing me up
as a potential board member? And I have to say, James, I
wouldn't mind being on the board of QPR. And so I thought, well,
I'll take Caroline with me, because he said you can bring a guest
and it could have taken one of my teenage sons. I thought, no,
I'll take my wife's you know, she get her to wear a nice
dress, and I can count on her to be charming and funny and generally
create a favorable impression. So, you know, enhanced my prospects of being
punched to join the board. But it quickly dawned on me, James,
after I've been there for about thirty seconds, that I was not being sized
abut as a potential board member. I think this executive had just read one
of my Spectator pieces about being a QPR fan and and had thought it would
be nice to invite me, you know, to keep me on side.
And I'm you know, I'm not too mean about the club when I write
about them for the Spectator. Anyway, it was, it was very nice.
It was very nice kind of being in the dining room. I sat
next to Les Ferdinand, footballing legend, director of football at QPR. He's
no, he's no matters here. I think none, None of them are
matters here. He's the only footballer that counts because he's the only one that
stood out all the rest of the just a bunch of cowards. Well,
obviously, I I don't concur why not why didn't you? Well, because
actually Les Ferdinand spoke out against the taking of the knee at the very beginning,
during the height of the BLM in Broglio, he said it was a
pointless piece of virtue signaling wasn't going to reduce racism in football one iota and
as far as he was concerned, it was a waste of time, which
was quite courageous, I thought at the time. But where was your jubi
jabs? I don't know, But I don't know. I mean I think
I mean Matt Leticia, maybe you know, one of the few ex footballers
to publicly speak out against mRNA vaccines. But I think quite a few footballers
haven't taken them. Um that there seems to be quite a lot of evidence
that that quite a few haven't taken them. I think amongst some clubs I've
heard that haven't. Yeah, I would would have given them a massive competitive
advantage over those that have, because I mean, if if a teams had
the jibby jab there would have been hamstrung, weren't they. Whereas if if
if they're all they're all clean, they're not going to get my card wighters
and stuff, which is quite an advantage not having my card nights As a
as a young man running about a football pitch. Yeah, well I don't
know if perhaps that that that I don't know if that's entered into their calculations
or whether it's just been the reluctance or some of the footballers to actually take
the jab which is meant that you know, they haven't imposed vaccine mandates in
their clubs. But anyway, so I don't think Leticia is entirely alone in
being a vaccine skeptic, but he may be. He may be one of
the few, if not the only, footballer too. Probably probably it must
be a couple of others. Anyway, So that was my weekend. It
was, you know, depressing that we went on to lose one nil,
but very nice to watch it. But do you reckon? I mean,
do you do you think you have a chance of being made a director?
No, it was all a fantasy. Do you think that you have a
bigger chance? Are you more likely to be a director of QPR or to
get elevated if that's the word to the House of Lords, I think they're
equally distant prospects, James. But I think if I am elevated the House
of Lords, my chances of being made a director of QPR will definitely go
up, particularly if I'm Lord Young of Acton. Can I just say that
I think it would be the best thing for you if you got made a
director of QPR, because it might take away your desire to chase after the
bauble of a place in the lords. You might feel that you had made
it. Knowing you you wouldn't actually would you? Because you are quite ambitious,
you do, you do quite like you do want to become part of
the establishment. But I want every bauble and honorarium going James. But do
you know the things you have to do to get those baubles? I know
that that that that that's that's um, that's very much adrenochrome we have to
take before you get Yeah, I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I really wouldn't
get there had a dirty, dirty nose as well, stick stick stick to
QPR. Yeah, I think I probably probably the process of becoming a director
of QPR is ultimately less demeaning, less humiliating than what you need to go
through to become a member of the House of Lord. Yeah. Well,
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well, which which which? Yet? We should talk about Ted Lasso actually
in a little bit when we come to culture corner, But I thought,
should we talk about the risk that Donald Trump may be arrested tomorrow? I
thought that was quite an interesting story. I'm sure you're all across it.
But for the sake of our our English listeners who may not be across this
story, So Trump may be arrested tomorrow over allegations that he paid one hundred
and thirty thousand dollars in hush money to store Meet Daniels, with whom he
allegedly had an affair I think in well before his presidential bid in twenty sixteen
his reelection no his first presidential bid. And the reason he may be arrested
in connection with this payment is not because paying hush money to pawn Stars is
itself against the law, but because it might count as a campaign contribution and
therefore might be a breach of campaign finance laws. And Michael Cohen, then
Trump's person lawyer, who arranged the payment, supposedly pled guilty to violating campaign
finance laws in twenty eighteen and went to jail. So the Attorney General of
the state of New York is hoping to I think, secure an indictment so
he can arrest Donald Trump tomorrow. But in order to be arrested, Donald
Trump will have to give himself up in New York, and it may be
that he just decides to remain at Maral Largo, which is in the state
of Florida, in which case the New York District Attorney would have to try
and extradite Donald Trump from the state of Florida, and that would be in
the hands of Rond Santiss, Trump's main rival at the moment for the Republican
candidacy, so that could get quite interesting. And Trump of course has told
his supporters to protest if he is arrested, and there they've been rumors swirling,
probably more within your social media feeds the mind, but rumors swirling that
this is all a set up, much like Um January the sixth, And
if people do protest, there will be kind of fifth columnists. They're stirring
up trouble, so they'll all end up in jail um and there'll be even
more suppression of descent on social media and in the mainstream media. Anyway,
what's your take on that, James M No, in my circles, we
don't care. We're not We're just not interested. It's just just theater,
not not not interested. Maybe we were Trump fans once, but now we
think he's just just slightly less bad um member of the of the corrupt establishment,
right, So I look, I don't I don't don't buy into any
of this Stormy Daniel stuff. I mean the nonsense about the what was it
the cake KGB prostitutes urinating on him or something. I mean it was all
compromised. It was all cooked up by m my six for four on on
behalf of Hillary Clinton and that that law firm in in d C. I
just think it's just it's just silly. It's designed to distract us from from
far, far worse things happening in the world. On that COMPROMI point,
James, I don't know if I ever told you this, but I may
have said this already on London Calling in the distant past. But supposedly the
story was that there were these sort of unbelievably kind of supermodel standard attractive Russian
spies at these various international hotels in Moscow trying to honey trap unsuspecting politicians into
bed so they could then photograph them and they'd have some compromat on them and
then they'd be you know that way we want to join the Lords, Well,
I thought I thought it would be a great, a great kind of
stunt to do for kind of like a lad mag like kind of GQ or
Esquire is because I look quite like William Hague, former leader of the Conservative
Party, former Foreign secretary still you know, a great eminence in Conservative Party.
Now in the House of Lords, I could go to I could check
in to, you know, on the tale of some international British delegation,
check into, you know, the international hotel in Moscow, pretend to be
Lord Haig and just loiter at the barn, wait to be honey trapped by
one of these supermodels, and then write a very amusing piece about how,
you know, I basically had the time of my life and actually had to
break it to her in the morning. That was a case of mistaken problem
is terms, I think you're about fifteen years too late. You obviously haven't
looked at these so called lads mags recently, the ones so painfully woke now
the idea of it. So a GQ or Esquire cover is now m Lewis
Hamilton wearing a dress. That's the kind of stuff they're into. They're not
interested in I went to a war zone and almost got my bullock shot off,
or I down tequila with the with the similar car. Tell those straws
don't run anymore. It's about how I how I changed my sex by Toby
Young or my gender or whatever. I wrote a piece for GQ. I
think in like what it would have been. Um maybe I think it was
published in like maybe two thousand and one, and it was a reprint of
a piece I'd done, but which no, wait a minute, I think,
yeah, did GQ refusal? I think it might have even been too
racy for GQ. James when I when I, and it was a reprint
of a piece I'd done for an American lad mag which did print it.
And the story was I dressed up as a lipstick lesbian. So I did
sort of go on a sort of gender bender, but for politically incorrect reasons.
Yeah, I dressed up as ellipstick lesbian and did a tour of New
York's most kind of glamorous lipstick lesbian clubs with a view to getting off with
ellipstick lesbian. And the problem was that even though I thought I looked very
convincing and very attractive, that certainly wasn't the view of the women I encountered
in these Adam's Apple Yeah, quite feminine legs put maybe maybe you could tell.
And back in those days, you couldn't kind of turn around and accuse
an attractive lesbian of refusing to get off with you because you were a man
dressed as a woman and that she was. This was the cotton ceiling,
and she was a transphobe, a turf and a bigot for refusing to go
home with you, whereas you know, presumably you could do that now.
But funnily enough, when I then got canceled for when I was you know,
briefly appointed by Theresa May to this regulator. This was brought up by
Owen Jones and others on Sky News as part of the kind of general offense
archaeology that was done on me, and they were saying I had once dressed
up as a woman in order to sexually assault lesbians in New York nightclubs.
That's how they build it. And they said, they said, if there
was an element of deception in bold, then it was by definition sexual assault.
I was essentially a sexual predator. Yeah, but it was. It
was so disingenuous because obviously the point of writing the piece was that I crashed
and burned. It couldn't persuade any of these attractive women to touch me with
a barge pole, otherwise it wouldn't have been remotely funny. But anyway,
of course they didn't read it completely cons I think you are a dangerous sexual
predator. If I left to call you from now on dangerous sexual predator to
table young. Um. Yeah, I believe there was no predation involved.
So um, okay. Here's another story James, that I think you might
have something to say about, which I don't know if you've seen, but
in the National Assembly in France a law has just i think passed its first
reading which will make it illegal for parents to share images of their children on
social media. And I wondered whether you'd ever got into trouble. I first
of all, I wondered what you thought about that. Is it a kind
of encroachment by the state on you know, parental responsibility, which is kind
of part of the attack on the family, or is it actually something quite
sensible, because children do need to be protected from their mercenary parents trying to
get clicks and make money from posting cute pictures of them, kind of trying
to you know, cook bagels or whatever it might be on Instagram. What's
your take on it? Well, I've got I've got various thoughts on this.
It reminds me of a time when my kids were about five or six,
you know, when they're sort of they're still okay to run around naked
in the garden stuff, doing whatever they do, and it's in the summer,
and I took some photographs of them playing naked badminton with their friends,
and I then took them to or rather sent the pair off to the to
the photoplays to get them developed. And she came back and said that they
refused to develop them because they were potentially, you know, suspect images.
And I was thinking about, how can kids holding clearly holding badminton rackets,
playing over at badminton net, playing in the garden naked innocently and was sort
of pornographing about those pictures? So I got I got really really I got
really paid off because I thought, this is the way the culture is going.
Everything is becoming incredibly censorious. UM. At the same time I've noticed
about this is just an observation about social media, particularly Twitter. UM that
anyone who posts whose whose Twitter avatar? Who was Twitter picture shows them with
their children, with their young children, or advertises the path that they are,
you know, proud loving dad of Sarah and sign usually it means they
are a psycho a path they are a really really nasty piece of work.
Anyone who talks about their kids is by definition a complete whanker, and so
on those grounds, I think I'm with the French. I think that children
should be removed from people's social media altogether because because people who do it are
are basically evil and should be should be right. Yeah, I'm under this
new law. I think I could have. I could be prosecuted for a
number of violations. I sometimes published pictures of me with my teenage boys,
two of whom are under eighteen now playing badminton in the news. No,
not naked, fully clothed at QPR matches, and but yeah, for me,
the more relevant accusation, I think is not that I've exploited my children's
images on social media to promote myself. It's that I've written about my children
ARUs columns. And I used to be able to get away with that when
they were much younger, because you know, they didn't bother to read my
Spectator column, and none of their friends read it, so would point it
out to them. But now you know, once they reached the age of
about thirteen or fourteen, if I mention one of them in my Spectator column,
and even even if it's I think quite a flattering light, I have
them saying something quite funny they get really cross. But then Rachel Johnson,
Boris's sister told them that she'd work. She'd come to an arrangement with her
children when she was a prolific columnist, whereby every time she mentioned one of
them in one of her columns, she'd have to pay them seventy five pounds.
So now my children and assist that if I ever mention them, they
don't actually mind, they like it, but I have to compensate them by
paying them at least seventy five pounds, which of course means I never do
it. Wow. Yeah, I haven't asked that. That's good. Yeah,
you're you're a city, right, they do? They do load that
I don't. I don't write about my I wouldn't dare. Actually I wouldn't
dare anyway. You know. I think once they once, I think once
they reach the age of about fourteen, it's obviously extremely perilelus to include pictures
or write about your children. Um. Yeah, anyway, Oh well,
we're both reasonably sympathetic to that law. M So maybe it's my turn to
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London calling so James, So, I don't know if you've been seeing all
these memes depicting Suella Braverman, who is currently I think, or at least
yesterday was in Rwanda where she was inspecting the residential compounds where undocumented migrants having
in the UK on small boats would be will be relocated to once we can
sort out our problem with the European called of human rights. So she was
there inspecting these residential facilities, which you know, on the face of it,
looked actually quite comfortable. And in one of the pictures she was smiling,
evidently having just shared a joke with two people, both black, on
either side of her. And the kind of first level of meaning just cut
the two black people out of the photographs who had her smiling in front of
what was build as an internment camp, making her supposedly look incredibly heartless.
And then the second level was to substitute the picture of the internment camp in
the background for a picture of Ausfitch, and that one of those pictures was
retweeted I think by James O'Brien. He may have only retweeted the first level
of me, not the second, not sure, but a lot of people
on the left, the very same people James who got completely outraged when Andrew
Bridging quoted a cardiologist saying that the vaccine rollout was comparable to the Holocaust.
It was a crime against humanity. The very people who became absolutely outraged at
Bridgin's supposed trivialization of the Holocaust to make a political point were absolutely unhesitating in
retweeting this meme in which Sweller Braveman was depicted laughing in front of Austitch.
I thought that was a pretty clear illustration of the double standards of the left.
Um, yeah, I don't, Yeah, I didn't. I didn't.
I don't buy into this. This this Ruanda story is another complete distraction.
I don't believe that a single immigrant is going to end up in Rwanda.
I don't think there was ever the government's intention to do so. I
think I think it's a complete non story. It's designed to I mean,
actually, you you mentioned precisely this sort of reason why this non story is
appearing in our media to distractors, and you put your finger on it.
Andrew Bridging, I'm surprised you haven't mentioned him yet in the context of his
extraordinary speech that he delivered a couple of days ago. I think it was
it must have been just before the weekend where he was in a good here
he finally got himself in a German debate in which he talked for what twenty
minutes to the house about vaccine injuries. UM, and you'll have seen the
extraordinary scenes where the debating chamber was pretty pretty sparsely attended anyway, But just
before Bridging stood up, the remaining MPs were ushered out, so we're given
signals to move by UM an MP called Andrew Mitchell. I think, UM,
he's been identified. And Andrew Mitchell has a very cozy relationship with guests
who of our friend Bill Gates, and I know people have recreated a picture
of him, but like plenty of people have taken self. He may have
even you know, done what one of the VIP ticket holders did that the
James Tellerton at the Emmanuel Center recently, and just paid for the privilege of
having a large The pharmatical industry has poured poured millions into buying off Parliament.
UM, Andrew Mitchell has definitely benefited for he's definitely on at least one of
the one of these these committees sort of trying to promote you know, vaccine
awareness or I forget the exact the exact one, but there's no question that
Mitchell is very much on the on the Bill and Linda Gates, Gravy Traine
and but but I mean the broader ist us this time that I'd hesitate before
saying that change that that could be. I mean that it may not be
true. I mean he may have. He may have, you know,
cooperated with Bill. I think he was Secretary of State for Development at one
stage, and he may have. You know, he's been, he's been
payroll. I don't that's not that we don't know that that will have been.
He will have. He will have been to um events sponsored by the
Bill and Lindigates Foundation, pushing pushing the vaccine, pushing pharmaceutical industry into interventions
that pretty much all of them have. My question to you is how you
feel about your ongoing support for a political system which is now clearly so unfit
for purpose that it that it no longer believes in the basics of even the
illusion of a democratic process. Where you've got an important issue, maybe the
most important issue in politics right now, being ignored by the entire political class.
I mean, how do you feel about that? Andrew Bridgon, sorry
Andrew Mitchell, driving driving MP's out. How do you feel about the fact
that they were they were willing to leave. The debating house is a debating
chamber during this this speech by Andrew Bridge, which is surely quite important.
It may I mean, you may be you know, adding two and two
and making five. I mean it could be that Andrew Mitchell was ushering people
out of the debating chamber because you know, there was a meeting in a
committee room. He do you think so? Do you really believe that maybe
a friend of him holding a book party? We don't know for sure.
You are taking the mickey there. You cannot cannot you cannot believe that.
You cannot We don't know for certain that he was he was. Why are
you making it for him? Well, I can't get a presumption of innocence,
James. I think you're assuming guilt. You're assuming he was doing the
bidding. When does that happen in Parliament? When does When does the chamber
get clear it? It usually is quite empty for these a German debates,
and we saw him I think moving one person on in the clip I saw,
or anyway encouraging one person to leave. But it could be that,
you know, they had an appointment, they were supposed to have a drink
or something. I don't know it's possible, James. I mean, you're
assuming the worst, but we don't know for sure. This is just risible.
But nonetheless, James, I do think that it's a shame that more
people weren't in the chamber to hear what Andrew Bridge had to say. But
I think we know why they weren't. More scandalous, James, I think
is the fact that YouTube initially put the video up on its platform and then
removed it. Now they put it back again now, And it may well
be that it was kind of you know, it triggered some algorithm, or
it was a decision made by someone fairly low down the pecking order, and
it has now gone back up, and we linked to it in the Daily
Skeptic round up this morning. But I thought that was more scandalous, and
I think a taste of the over removal were likely to see if any contentious
content once the Online Safety Bill becomes law. I'm just looking up, looking
up Andrew Bridging, and here he is sectristate Andrew Andrew Andrew Mitchell first Overseas
speech given at Carnegie Endowment Washington, Washington, DC, and talks about the
inspirational work of Billy and Blind the Gates. Yeah right, Okay, I
suspect he certainly gets a lot of let's say, just gets travel expenses,
right, Um. He seems to be very much on the on the bandwagon
with all this stuff. It just makes you look silly when you say things
like, oh oh, there might have been a perfectly innocent explanation for the
house being cleared in this way. Just the house wasn't where has been cleared
as a slight exaggeration. There weren't many people there, and in the video
I saw Andrew Mitchell was encouraging encouraging a woman in the House of Commons to
get up and leave. After Andrew Bridge got up and started talking, you
didn't see him clearing the commons. Do you think do you think maybe that
that she had an important headrest of appointment and that that was why he was
reminding her of is is that? Would that be your explanation? There's only
number of possibilities why I might have been doing it. But I think your
your suggestion that this was completely innocuous and unconnected with the speech by Andrew Bridging,
who has been ostracized by pretty much every MP in Parliament apart from Christopher
Christopher Chope, and you say the chamber wasn't completely empty, that's only because
I believe that certain a token number of front benchers are obliged to remain there,
including the gimp, the sort of the pointlessly good looking young man who
just spouted government policy. I'm genuinely concerned, hopes that at this point in
the cycle, you are still defending the government's failure to address the action injuries
and the treatment of Andrew Bridge. I don't, I do not get why
you are doing this. Is it because you just respect the Conservative Party too
March? Is it because you want to be in with these people? I
don't. This is the game beyond neutrality that you seem to be in,
a adopting a position which is I would say morally untenable. One reason,
one reason I am reluctant to convict Andrew Mitchell of being part of a Bill
Gates led conspiracy to make sure no one heard Andrew Bridging is because I don't
know if you recall, but a few years ago he was accused of calling
a police officer standing outside the gates of ten Downing Street a pleb. Remember
that pleb Gate, and there was another distraction well he at at Well it
proved to be a very costly distraction for him because he unsuccessfully sued someone for
libel. I believe over that. But I always thought he was innocent.
I didn't believe it did a fit people's kind of, you know, preconceptions
about the sort of language that kind of these kind of tory toffs use when
addressing ordinary people that get in their way. To me, it never had
the ring of truth. I always thought he was innocent. I mean,
immediately he wasn't able to prove his innocence. But but but so I'm slightly
reluctant to kind of, you know, charge him with something else, perhaps
not a serious but without without without without without being a possession of the full
facts, without having heard wa wow, wait a second, you are using
you are now making this about It doesn't really matter whether it's just a minor
detail, the story that Andrew Mitchell ushered out these emeralds. I think one
that I saw anyway here, but that there's a bigger issue at stake here,
which is that Andrew Bridgeon made a speech for twenty minutes on maybe the
most important issue facing people in as country, the fact that their government has
has conspired to make them, to bully them, to blackmail them, to
take a medical treatment that they did not need, which has injured many of
them, who killed some of them. And you are you're saying, well,
it's kind of okay because reasons I don't know. Why are you not
more uncomfortable? I think what's happening. I think you're misunderstanding what our point
of disagreement is. I'm not disagreeing that vaccine harms is an important national issue
and deserves a lot of attention, including attention from the government, and I
think in due course it will, it will get the why not why not
now? Well, I think I think why not now? James? I'm
not I'm not I'm not disagreeing with you about that. What I'm disagreeing with
you about is I don't think that they're needed to be a Bill Gates led
conspiracy in which Andrew Mitchell was a kind of spear carrier in order to suppress
attention interest in Andrew Bridge in speech. I think have you have you heard
about have you heard of Gabby? Have you heard of the billman and the
Gates Foundation. They are quite active in promoting vaccines. They had been quite
major in the so called vaccine rollout. It's not yeah, but but but
random computer geek who happens to have been fingered with this thing in which he
has not which he has nothing to do. But I would have thought that
that, yeah, James, but I would have thought that. Let's suppose
you're right and that Andrew Mitchell was ushering an MP out of the chamber because
he didn't want Andrew Bridging to get a hearing. I don't suppose suppose he
would have. He didn't need to be coaxed into doing that. No phone
call or email from Bill Gates would have been necessary. He is. Now
you're being slippery, now, James. What you don't understand is that because
because you don't really leave your recod chamber very often. But the vast majority
of people, the vast majority, particularly people in Parliament, ex Government minister's,
senior officials, public health officials, senior medics, they're all four square
one hundred percent behind the vaccine. Think it was a miracle drug. And
they're very reluctant to change their minds because of anchoring bias, because they don't
want to look like fools. They don't want to seem like they were complicit
in encouraging the public to do something that actually, as you say, many
of them didn't need and in some cases was harmful. That's why no one
wants to pay attention to Andrew Bridging. It's not because they've been enlisted in
some diabolical conspiracy. It's because they made a stupid mistake eighteen months ago and
a now unwilling to own up to it. I think it wasn't it.
There was a fam at Mark Twain said, it's far easier to sucker someone
than it is to persuade them that they've been suckered. It's basic human psychology.
You don't need this fanciful, incredible, fantastical explanation involving bill gates and
phone calls and the WEF to explain this sort of behavior. And that's why
the MSM didn't cover Andrew bridge speach either. That's our point of disagreement,
not that it's not an important issue. I agree it's an important issue and
should be debated in parliament. The question is why why was his speech?
Why didn't it get much attention? Why wasn't it covered in the MSM?
Why did Andrew Mitchell if he did usher that woman out of the chambers,
because they're all brought into this group think about the miraculous quality of the vaccine
eighteen twenty four months ago. So they're now very reluctant to admit they made
a mistake for a variety of reasons. That's that's basic. Human psychology doesn't
require this kind of elaborate, fantastical explanation that you're providing. It's a shame
that the completely non conspiratorial nature of Bill Gates's involvement in this, I mean
the fact it's not any kind of conspiracy theory. There is an organization called
Gabby. Gates has pumped billions in some billions into universities, Imperial College into
which which of course funded the terrible um neil Ferguson study, which which would
raise the scare mongering. It's his funded uh A vaccine rest that some of
the vaccine research that led to the creation of the so called oxyine Oxford vaccine,
the Zenica. He's pumped money into The Telegraph, into The Guardian to
buy up this this to to create this plant. You're crediting him with kind
of global health security. James but you're crediting him, You're crediting him with
being a thought leader. I'm just not convinced he as a thought lead.
No, no, he's following their lead. He's not. What I'm saying
is that is that all this stuff is very much in the public domain.
So for you, so for you to characterize it as this kind of oh,
this is a bit of an edgy conspiracy theory is I would say disingenuous.
But what I'm also saying is that it really doesn't matter. I mean,
I regret having mentioned Bill Gates, not because I think he's He's not
completely Germaine and and completely above board in this in this story, his involvement
is very very clear, but it is enabled you to play the game whereby
you go, well, I don't think that this this, this this man
in his in his agreeable sweaters, with his background in the tech industry,
is some evil mastermind. I think it's so. I don't I regret having
enabled you to play that disingenuous game. I just wanted you to answer me
the more basic question, which you have. I mean, I'm not sure
I convinced by your answer, but you have answered the question why you think
it's okay for an MP to appear in the House of Commons chamber and make
a twenty minute speech, which for some really mysterious reason, even though lots
of constituents have represented by these these MPs have died or lost legs or had
life changing injuries which you would have thought might be of concerned of concern to
MP's representing. But you're you're going back to I thought I cleared up this
standing, James. I thought I thought we cleared this up ten minutes ago.
Why are you pack on this. What I'm saying is I'm unconvinced by
the explanation for why his speech received so little attention that we're about. I
agreeing it should have got more attention. I'm unconvinced that you don't need to
hear that that that that lets seems to go in one ear and out the
other one. I say that to you, Jents, I agree with you.
How many times do I have to repeat it? I agree with you.
His speech was important and should have got attention, should have been covered
in the mainstream media. The chambers should have been full. But the reason
it wasn't is not because there was some conspiracy to suppress the truth about the
vaccines. It was because all these people have a basic psychological motive for suppressing
the mistake they made eighteen twenty four months ago. That's what we're disagreeing about.
It's like, you don't, I don't think you need to invoke a
diabolical conspiracy to explain why his speech didn't get more attention. I can hear
you, I can, I can hear you. Distraction listen. But while
we're on the subject of odd behavior by billionaires, I don't know if you
saw, but you probably think this is a distraction too. But it's a
sort of odd left field distraction. So Rupert Murdoch, having just I think
finalized his divorce with what's her face, Mick Jagger's ex, is now getting
married again. So it was announced today that he's become engaged to a sixty
six year old called Anne Leslie Smith. He's ninety two. I mean,
what's going on there? I mean, is he kind of he's ninety two?
I mean, how big a driver can his libido be at that age?
Has he discovered some sort of magical turbo charged viagra which means he's still
horny at the age of ninety two and therefore just marries a succession of kind
of attractive sixty year olds, or is it kind of revenge on his kind
of ungrateful kids. He wants to kind of squander as much of his fortune
on alimony, so he'll just kind of marry and divorce, marry and divorce
for as long as he possibly can diminish his fortune, so there's just almost
nothing left when the kind of when they squabble over you know, over his
will. I mean, what's going on there? If you were a ninety
two year old multi billionaire, can you imagine kind of you know, divorcing
and marrying, divorcing and marrying at quite the speed that that Rupert Murdoch does.
I forgot to mention the coolest thing about about Saturday, Um at the
meat at the at the beginning, right at the beginning, I saw this
woman, a woman of a certain age, on a black horse, and
she was smoking a fag. So I instantly went over. I gravitated towards
her because the smokers hang hang together, and I scrounged a fag off her.
And it turned out she was eighty one. She was still hunting at
eighty one. And if I'm if I get that old, um, that's
what I want to be doing. I don't. I don't want to be
shagging under, you know, sort of third, fourth or fifth wife.
I'm perfectly happy with the wife I've got. I don't don't need to buy
a younger model or whatever. You know, marriage is forever, um and
uh, I think it's part of the kind of the sickness of the of
the elites. Yeah, I mean, you know, you look at look
at Mick Jagger. That we were supposed to look up to Mick Jagger as
a kind of a sort of person we'd like to be. He's not.
He's just a sort of filthy old man. He's just a priapic tosser.
And I think the same really applies to Murdock. I don't. I don't
think there's anything attractive or desirable about this serial, you know, serial husband
of of ever younger women. I think it's just rather sad to be fair
to him. I'm sure you don't see why anyone should be. But Anne
Leslie Smith is I think sixty six, so I think she's she's not significantly
younger, if indeed she's at all younger than Jerry Hall. The former supermodel
whom he has just award Howard Say, she's sixty six and he's ninety ninety
two. So there's it's quite an age gap there, that is. How
big is that? Twenty six? Yeah, that's like you and me going
for a thirty two year old thirty. I can't. I can't do the
matter. It doesn't seem I think, you know, I think someone like
twenty twenty six, twenty what would it be. Yeah, we're so ancient
we can't work it out. But something yeah, twenty six in my case,
Yeah, thirty two, thirty three, something like that. Yeah,
yeah, I think that's perfectly that's perfectly That would be perfectly acceptable, inn't
it. James, What do you think that would be disgusting? Um?
No, well, I mean I don't. I don't want to knock people
with large gaps, you know. And then I just think that I just
think it's a bit it's a bit revolting, just moving from from husband from
wife to wife. Just like anyway, Um, whatever, whatever he's smoking,
I want to smoke some of that. Should we hear from our next
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yeah, I've there's been such a dearth of stuff. Oh, by
the way, that that Swedish series I mentioned last week, you know,
the one year the Playlist. Yeah, it did something really stupid and quintessentially
bloody Swedish I thought, which is that the writers of the story, I
mean it was, it was interesting up to up to this point, the
writers of the story felt compelled to invent this character in the life of the
founder of Spotify. She didn't exist. She was a kind of a a
sort of soul singer, and she'd allegedly known the founder of I've gotten what
his name is now, the guy who founded Spotify, what is he?
I don't know. Well, anyway, they invented her, and then they
had her launching launching a campaign which ended up being discussed in Congress by this
kind of Daniel Eck Daniel Eck, by this righteous crusading democrat in Congress,
and this stuff was all made up. It was just stupid. I was
really cross about that. Anyway, There's been a real dearth of stuff to
watch on TV, and I've gone back to Yellowstone. Okay, yeah,
which season one, which I quite liked, But apparently season two is by
an order of magnitude better than season one, So I really have got to
get around to watching it. Yeah, so it's written by this guy called
Taylor Sheridan, who our friend Mark Miller really rates because because he sees Um.
He sees Yellowstone as part of this backlash, because you know Mark think
Mark thinks that the entertainment moves in eleven year cycles. Yes, we are
now very much in the anti work stuff. Yeah, we're at the beginning
of the next eleven year cycle at last eleven year, which is which is
why he thinks series like like Yellowstone and the one with sliced alone set in
the Samaritan, Tulsa, Tulsa King and and and so on. Yeah,
and why the highest gracing movie of last year was Top Gun Maverick and exactly
that the sort of machismo is back. But although I enjoy Yellowstone and it's
it's fantastic seeing Um Kevin Costner as this this that the guys are bastard,
that you love him because he's Kevin's Kevin Costa, there's there's so much machismo.
I love the horses. The horse is great, but there is too
much machismo. And for me that the men are always fighting with fists and
it's not that the portrait of masculinity is quite toxic, isn't it. That
was my impression from watching season one. It didn't in all that non woke.
Um that's a good point actually, Um, I kind of agree with
you there. I'm not thinking go lads. Finally, we are being represented
fairly on on on screen. I look at it and I think this is
just pornographic and it's in its violence, it's and it's not natural either.
It doesn't strike me as real that that we're sort of being invited into this
this this man's world, which doesn't strike me as a as as genuine.
It's it's a kind of TV writer's idea of a man's world. Yeah,
which is not quite the same thing. It's almost as it has something Dallas
about it. I mean, I think it obviously thinks it's alted to be
much much cleverer than Dallas, but that's basically what it is. There is
something slightly schlocky about it. I'm sure I'm going to have lots of lots
of Yellowston. Yeah. I thought that the the the daughter played by Kelly
whatever she's called, I thought I thought. I thought she was a very
good character and she's a brilliant actress. The alcoholic. Oh, she's quite
sexy kind of way. She's the best thing and the best thing. She's
the best thing in it. Yeah, I quite like. But I'm willing
to give it another chance and go on to season two. And also the
prequels are supposed to be very good too, as the prequel with Helen Mirrorn
and Harrison Ford that's supposed to be very good, and there's another prequel too.
Anyway, I'm willing to buy into the Yellowstone franchise and I'm going to
definitely watch season two. I didn't. I thought it was pretty good.
But but yeah, I don't buy this idea that it's um it's part of
the kind of anti woke backlash. Basically, Kevin Costner as the leader of
what amounts to a criminal gang, isn't he? Um? It is?
I think it's subtle as a rattlesnake. It pretends to be something more than
that, and it's not. It's it's it's almost as bad. And that
terrible man, the awful man who wrote Peaky Blinders him, the one who's
turning, who's turning, who's got Pip in great expectations? Using the F
word, I mean, what's that that's funny. I didn't realize that that's
that he's the guy that he sort of first um came to prominence when he
u he wrote he was the brains behind who wants to be a millionaire?
A millionaire? Right? Oh? Was he? I think so? Yeah?
Yeah, Jasper Carroll, Stephen Knight, Stephen Knight. Yeah, Yeah,
he's horribly he's a hack, but he's quite good at finding the stuff
that gets commissioned. He did the Sas series and stuff. Yeah, and
he's he's written did he did? He did? He's sounding did he wrote
that David Cronenberg film about kind of Russian gangsters in London, which I thought
was quite good anyway, like that one. Yeah, he's not he can
he can be quite good anyway. So I saw James like you, I've
been sort of searching for new and interesting things to watch, and so I
rather reluctantly watched episode one of season three of ted Lasso, and I thought
Ted Lasso almost jumped the shark in season two. I don't know if you
ever bothered with season one, but season two was was was was significantly worse
than season one and much woker in a kind of really grating irritating way.
And season three is even worse. So it's just awful and I'm not going
to watch the rest of it. I watched how did it go? How
does this wokeness express itself? Well, well, I suppose, first of
all, the figure of ted Lasso is a kind of completely pathetic man.
He's been less by his wife. Yeah, he's a kind of sentimental,
doting father. He's pushed around by his female boss. He's a kind of
beata male in the locker room, and you know, he's all his problems
are supposedly because he didn't have a loving enough relationship with his own father.
And everything is soluble by the right kind of therapy. And it's a kind
of advertisement for it's almost like kind of it's almost like a kind of the
television a manifesto that Prince William and Prince Harry would have produced to promote their
idea that all men need therapy and that we need to start talking about our
mental health, and that toxic masculinity is rooted in the stiff upper lip,
but not talking enough about our feelings and not being able to express something or
being in touch with them. That's the kind of that's the sort of that's
the sort of underlying agenda. It's all about, you know, the benefits
of therapy for bottled up men who had difficult relationships with their fathers. But
also the female characters are just unremittingly awful, so they're constantly talking about sex
and their sexual needs and a kind of vulgar in your face way. In
one scene in episode one, season three, this woman who was the pr
for the football club for Richmond FC, is to set up her own PR
company and at one point she's in a meeting with her best friend who's the
owner of the football club, and she just suddenly burst into tears and it's
like totally unclear what's going on, as best friend asked, when it turns
out that she's scheduled time for herself to cry, because don't you know all
women need time in the day to have a good cry. They describe it
as an orgasm of the soul, and I guess that's in keeping with the
general theme that whatever fleeting emotion happens to be flickering across your psyche has to
immediately be expressed and indulge, because emotional incontinence is a virtue. But yeah,
I don't think it's a particularly flattering portrait of kind of modern career women
that they have to kind of make appointments to cry at their desks. I
mean, good lord. Anyway, it was just ghastly, beyond imaginably ghastly.
And my wife and I sat there and taught that's it. We are
categorically giving up on this program. We're not going to watch the rest of
it. Well, I'm glad. I'm glad you've saved me, because I
did find it. It was already bordering on the on the two twee for
comfort. It was all it was so sweet natured, and I did,
Yeah, you're right, it's far too sweet that the kind of corniness of
Ted Lasso and his kind of you know, his down home, good humored,
corny homespun Forrest Gump wisdom. It's just it's totally you know, outstair,
it's welcome, it's it's yeah, jump the shop, don't watch it,
Okay, I think that's probably I didn't have anything more from corner.
Yeah, I've got I've also I've got to go and make porridge for I
guess with my largest class. So this is the timing is good, suggested
so there we are to talk. Yeah, I'll have no hunter to talk
about this week because I don't know what I'm going to talk about really,
because it's like, you know, Roll on September. Well, of course
then then then Autumn Hunting was its name. I think it starts yeah,
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