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London Calling. Many of them asked
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me, James Delingpole and my very
good friend mister Toby Young Tobes, I

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am utterly bereft. Why what's what's
happened? It's the end of the hunting

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season. Had I had my last
hunt on Saturday and it was a really

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it was a fitting end to the
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the number of riders following the hunt
of I think it was one hundred and

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fifty three or one hundred and fifty
four, which is a lot. I

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mean, very rarely to hunts get
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of the I think that bothfort possibly
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And you weren't a follower. You
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You were part of the hunt and
being followed, were you. No,

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no, no, you've got terminology
wrong. That the field are all the

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riders, that what you are as
a mounted spectator. The hunt is just

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the body of the huntsman and the
whippers in right, a very small number

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of people. But the field are
the people on horseback who follow in their

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in their black coats or their red
coats or whatever. And you have a

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red coat or a black coat,
James a black coat. But you know

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what, even if I were entitled
to a red coat, I think I'd

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probably still wear black. I can't. I like black, and red's a

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bit, it's a bit in your
face. The reason that you wear red

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really is so that you can be
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the field master and everyone has to
follow you, then clearly it's quite important

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that you you be you stick out. But everyone else I think I think

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black is black or or navy blue
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would reject red on the grounds that
it's a bit in your face, and

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yet being atop a horse with a
black tailcoat on, wearing white job pers

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shouting tally cream creamed cream job.
That's that's quite understated, is it very

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very in predicted? Well, I
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of blend in. I think understated
is is good? Um, but it

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doesn't sound it was. It was
particularly it was particularly exciting for me because

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I broke my my hedge due to
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I jumped ahead, poked something else, didn't you know, No, No,

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that those ages ago, I jumped
aheade rather badly and came off and

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my horse, my horse ran off. And when he came back, when

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he was retrieved for me, my
loose horse, I found that my saddle

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flask, which had previously been full
of the finest aged slowgein, had been

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drunk almost dry by the by the
lads who retrieved the horse. So it

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was not only humiliating, but it
was also kind of depressing, falling off

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ahage and and and and thereafter I
was I didn't do any more hedges that

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day. I was all nervous and
stuff. And this this day I knew

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there were going to be hedges,
and I knew that somehow I had to

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face my demons. And so I
saw this hedge approaching and I thought,

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oh bloody, I so do not
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it was a head, it was
going down a slope, so you had

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to take it sort of going going
across across the slope. And then I

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heard somebody else say, oh,
well it's you know, it's it's not

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as it's perfectly doable your manage,
and I thought, well, I'm going

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to manage too. So what you've
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kick on and you you hope the
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enough desire to go over the hedge, and you kind of leave, You

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leave you your horse to me to
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you've got a lot of time.
You've got a long run up, a

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lot of time in which to see
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as you get closer, and a
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see a hedge ahead of you,
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you're going, and the field master
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up speed, and that you can
feel this this sort of excitement spreading across

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it's across the hunt. It's like
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all hurl yourselves at this hedge,
unless you want to go round, of

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course, but I mean then you
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sort of you're all jumping this edge. That's the good thing about hedges.

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that hunting died at in the early
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more wire um, you know,
there was a lot less country to hunt

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and so on. But and because
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own line. You you didn't follow
a fieldmaster. You just went wherever you

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wherever you could to get over.
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you can all jump over in line
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own line. And it's very exciting
because, as you can imagine, you

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spend more time airborne because hedges is
wider than offense um. And anyway,

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it's great. I did seven hedges
and well, yeah, you know a

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hedge master. Yeah, and and
and when you've done it, you come

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out the other side and you're still
alive, and you you look at the

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person next to you, who who
like as not as this attractive girl,

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and you say, wow, how
cool is that? She goes, yeah,

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yeah, it's great. It really
is flirting on horseback, like you

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Lee, James, Well, I
I I had, in my own way

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a very exciting experience. I was
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at Queen's Park Rangers football club.
At the club on Saturday's, I was

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invited to the executive dining room and
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qprv Birmingham, a must win game
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But and I thought, are they
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as a potential board member? And
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wouldn't mind being on the board of
QPR. And so I thought, well,

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I'll take Caroline with me, because
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and it could have taken one of
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I'll take my wife's you know,
she get her to wear a nice

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dress, and I can count on
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create a favorable impression. So,
you know, enhanced my prospects of being

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punched to join the board. But
it quickly dawned on me, James,

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after I've been there for about thirty
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abut as a potential board member.
I think this executive had just read one

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of my Spectator pieces about being a
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be nice to invite me, you
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And I'm you know, I'm not
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about them for the Spectator. Anyway, it was, it was very nice.

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It was very nice kind of being
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next to Les Ferdinand, footballing legend, director of football at QPR. He's

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no, he's no matters here.
I think none, None of them are

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matters here. He's the only footballer
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stood out all the rest of the
just a bunch of cowards. Well,

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obviously, I I don't concur why
not why didn't you? Well, because

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actually Les Ferdinand spoke out against the
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during the height of the BLM in
Broglio, he said it was a

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pointless piece of virtue signaling wasn't going
to reduce racism in football one iota and

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as far as he was concerned,
it was a waste of time, which

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was quite courageous, I thought at
the time. But where was your jubi

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jabs? I don't know, But
I don't know. I mean I think

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I mean Matt Leticia, maybe you
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to publicly speak out against mRNA vaccines. But I think quite a few footballers

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haven't taken them. Um that there
seems to be quite a lot of evidence

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that that quite a few haven't taken
them. I think amongst some clubs I've

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heard that haven't. Yeah, I
would would have given them a massive competitive

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advantage over those that have, because
I mean, if if a teams had

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the jibby jab there would have been
hamstrung, weren't they. Whereas if if

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if they're all they're all clean,
they're not going to get my card wighters

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and stuff, which is quite an
advantage not having my card nights As a

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as a young man running about a
football pitch. Yeah, well I don't

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know if perhaps that that that I
don't know if that's entered into their calculations

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or whether it's just been the reluctance
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the jab which is meant that you
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their clubs. But anyway, so
I don't think Leticia is entirely alone in

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being a vaccine skeptic, but he
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the few, if not the only, footballer too. Probably probably it must

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be a couple of others. Anyway, So that was my weekend. It

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was, you know, depressing that
we went on to lose one nil,

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but very nice to watch it.
But do you reckon? I mean,

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do you do you think you have
a chance of being made a director?

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No, it was all a fantasy. Do you think that you have a

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bigger chance? Are you more likely
to be a director of QPR or to

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get elevated if that's the word to
the House of Lords, I think they're

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equally distant prospects, James. But
I think if I am elevated the House

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of Lords, my chances of being
made a director of QPR will definitely go

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up, particularly if I'm Lord Young
of Acton. Can I just say that

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I think it would be the best
thing for you if you got made a

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director of QPR, because it might
take away your desire to chase after the

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bauble of a place in the lords. You might feel that you had made

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it. Knowing you you wouldn't actually
would you? Because you are quite ambitious,

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you do, you do quite like
you do want to become part of

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the establishment. But I want every
bauble and honorarium going James. But do

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you know the things you have to
do to get those baubles? I know

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that that that that that's that's um, that's very much adrenochrome we have to

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take before you get Yeah, I
wouldn't. I wouldn't. I really wouldn't

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get there had a dirty, dirty
nose as well, stick stick stick to

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QPR. Yeah, I think I
probably probably the process of becoming a director

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of QPR is ultimately less demeaning,
less humiliating than what you need to go

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through to become a member of the
House of Lord. Yeah. Well,

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allegedly had an affair I think in
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his reelection no his first presidential bid. And the reason he may be arrested

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in connection with this payment is not
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itself against the law, but because
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therefore might be a breach of campaign
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Trump's person lawyer, who arranged the
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finance laws in twenty eighteen and went
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the state of New York is hoping
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he can arrest Donald Trump tomorrow.
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Trump will have to give himself up
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that he just decides to remain at
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of Florida, in which case the
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and extradite Donald Trump from the state
of Florida, and that would be in

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the hands of Rond Santiss, Trump's
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candidacy, so that could get quite
interesting. And Trump of course has told

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his supporters to protest if he is
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probably more within your social media feeds
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this is all a set up,
much like Um January the sixth, And

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if people do protest, there will
be kind of fifth columnists. They're stirring

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up trouble, so they'll all end
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more suppression of descent on social media
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what's your take on that, James
M No, in my circles, we

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don't care. We're not We're just
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not not not interested. Maybe we
were Trump fans once, but now we

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think he's just just slightly less bad
um member of the of the corrupt establishment,

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right, So I look, I
don't I don't don't buy into any

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of this Stormy Daniel stuff. I
mean the nonsense about the what was it

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the cake KGB prostitutes urinating on him
or something. I mean it was all

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compromised. It was all cooked up
by m my six for four on on

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behalf of Hillary Clinton and that that
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just think it's just it's just silly. It's designed to distract us from from

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far, far worse things happening in
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James, I don't know if I
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have said this already on London Calling
in the distant past. But supposedly the

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story was that there were these sort
of unbelievably kind of supermodel standard attractive Russian

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spies at these various international hotels in
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bed so they could then photograph them
and they'd have some compromat on them and

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then they'd be you know that way
we want to join the Lords, Well,

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I thought I thought it would be
a great, a great kind of

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stunt to do for kind of like
a lad mag like kind of GQ or

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Esquire is because I look quite like
William Hague, former leader of the Conservative

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Party, former Foreign secretary still you
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Now in the House of Lords,
I could go to I could check

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in to, you know, on
the tale of some international British delegation,

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check into, you know, the
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Lord Haig and just loiter at the
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one of these supermodels, and then
write a very amusing piece about how,

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you know, I basically had the
time of my life and actually had to

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break it to her in the morning. That was a case of mistaken problem

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is terms, I think you're about
fifteen years too late. You obviously haven't

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looked at these so called lads mags
recently, the ones so painfully woke now

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the idea of it. So a
GQ or Esquire cover is now m Lewis

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Hamilton wearing a dress. That's the
kind of stuff they're into. They're not

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interested in I went to a war
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or I down tequila with the with
the similar car. Tell those straws

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don't run anymore. It's about how
I how I changed my sex by Toby

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Young or my gender or whatever.
I wrote a piece for GQ. I

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think in like what it would have
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published in like maybe two thousand and
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a piece I'd done, but which
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yeah, did GQ refusal? I
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racy for GQ. James when I
when I, and it was a reprint

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of a piece I'd done for an
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And the story was I dressed up
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sort of go on a sort of
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Yeah, I dressed up as ellipstick
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York's most kind of glamorous lipstick lesbian
clubs with a view to getting off with

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ellipstick lesbian. And the problem was
that even though I thought I looked very

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convincing and very attractive, that certainly
wasn't the view of the women I encountered

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in these Adam's Apple Yeah, quite
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And back in those days, you
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an attractive lesbian of refusing to get
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dressed as a woman and that she
was. This was the cotton ceiling,

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and she was a transphobe, a
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home with you, whereas you know, presumably you could do that now.

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briefly appointed by Theresa May to this
regulator. This was brought up by

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Owen Jones and others on Sky News
as part of the kind of general offense

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archaeology that was done on me,
and they were saying I had once dressed

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up as a woman in order to
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That's how they build it. And
they said, they said, if there

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was an element of deception in bold, then it was by definition sexual assault.

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I was essentially a sexual predator.
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was so disingenuous because obviously the point
of writing the piece was that I crashed

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and burned. It couldn't persuade any
of these attractive women to touch me with

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a barge pole, otherwise it wouldn't
have been remotely funny. But anyway,

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of course they didn't read it completely
cons I think you are a dangerous sexual

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predator. If I left to call
you from now on dangerous sexual predator to

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table young. Um. Yeah,
I believe there was no predation involved.

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So um, okay. Here's another
story James, that I think you might

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have something to say about, which
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in the National Assembly in France a
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reading which will make it illegal for
parents to share images of their children on

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social media. And I wondered whether
you'd ever got into trouble. I first

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of all, I wondered what you
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of encroachment by the state on you
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of part of the attack on the
family, or is it actually something quite

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sensible, because children do need to
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get clicks and make money from posting
cute pictures of them, kind of trying

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to you know, cook bagels or
whatever it might be on Instagram. What's

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your take on it? Well,
I've got I've got various thoughts on this.

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It reminds me of a time when
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you know, when they're sort of
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in the garden stuff, doing whatever
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and I took some photographs of them
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and I then took them to or
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the photoplays to get them developed.
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refused to develop them because they were
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And I was thinking about, how
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playing over at badminton net, playing
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of pornographing about those pictures? So
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really paid off because I thought,
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Everything is becoming incredibly censorious. UM. At the same time I've noticed

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about this is just an observation about
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anyone who posts whose whose Twitter avatar? Who was Twitter picture shows them with

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their children, with their young children, or advertises the path that they are,

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you know, proud loving dad of
Sarah and sign usually it means they

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are a psycho a path they are
a really really nasty piece of work.

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Anyone who talks about their kids is
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on those grounds, I think I'm
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should be removed from people's social media
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are basically evil and should be should
be right. Yeah, I'm under this

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new law. I think I could
have. I could be prosecuted for a

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number of violations. I sometimes published
pictures of me with my teenage boys,

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two of whom are under eighteen now
playing badminton in the news. No,

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not naked, fully clothed at QPR
matches, and but yeah, for me,

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the more relevant accusation, I think
is not that I've exploited my children's

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images on social media to promote myself. It's that I've written about my children

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ARUs columns. And I used to
be able to get away with that when

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they were much younger, because you
know, they didn't bother to read my

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Spectator column, and none of their
friends read it, so would point it

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out to them. But now you
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about thirteen or fourteen, if I
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and even even if it's I think
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them saying something quite funny they get
really cross. But then Rachel Johnson,

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Boris's sister told them that she'd work. She'd come to an arrangement with her

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children when she was a prolific columnist, whereby every time she mentioned one of

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them in one of her columns,
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So now my children and assist that
if I ever mention them, they

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don't actually mind, they like it, but I have to compensate them by

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paying them at least seventy five pounds, which of course means I never do

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it. Wow. Yeah, I
haven't asked that. That's good. Yeah,

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you're you're a city, right,
they do? They do load that

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I don't. I don't write about
my I wouldn't dare. Actually I wouldn't

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dare anyway. You know. I
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they reach the age of about fourteen, it's obviously extremely perilelus to include pictures

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or write about your children. Um. Yeah, anyway, Oh well,

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we're both reasonably sympathetic to that law. M So maybe it's my turn to

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I don't know if you've been seeing all

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these memes depicting Suella Braverman, who
is currently I think, or at least

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yesterday was in Rwanda where she was
inspecting the residential compounds where undocumented migrants having

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in the UK on small boats would
be will be relocated to once we can

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sort out our problem with the European
called of human rights. So she was

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there inspecting these residential facilities, which
you know, on the face of it,

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looked actually quite comfortable. And in
one of the pictures she was smiling,

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evidently having just shared a joke with
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either side of her. And the
kind of first level of meaning just cut

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the two black people out of the
photographs who had her smiling in front of

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what was build as an internment camp, making her supposedly look incredibly heartless.

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And then the second level was to
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the background for a picture of Ausfitch, and that one of those pictures was

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retweeted I think by James O'Brien.
He may have only retweeted the first level

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of me, not the second,
not sure, but a lot of people

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on the left, the very same
people James who got completely outraged when Andrew

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Bridging quoted a cardiologist saying that the
vaccine rollout was comparable to the Holocaust.

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It was a crime against humanity.
The very people who became absolutely outraged at

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Bridgin's supposed trivialization of the Holocaust to
make a political point were absolutely unhesitating in

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retweeting this meme in which Sweller Braveman
was depicted laughing in front of Austitch.

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I thought that was a pretty clear
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Um, yeah, I don't,
Yeah, I didn't. I didn't.

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I don't buy into this. This
this Ruanda story is another complete distraction.

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I don't believe that a single immigrant
is going to end up in Rwanda.

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I don't think there was ever the
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think I think it's a complete non
story. It's designed to I mean,

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actually, you you mentioned precisely this
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appearing in our media to distractors,
and you put your finger on it.

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Andrew Bridging, I'm surprised you haven't
mentioned him yet in the context of his

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extraordinary speech that he delivered a couple
of days ago. I think it was

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it must have been just before the
weekend where he was in a good here

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he finally got himself in a German
debate in which he talked for what twenty

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minutes to the house about vaccine injuries. UM, and you'll have seen the

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extraordinary scenes where the debating chamber was
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before Bridging stood up, the remaining
MPs were ushered out, so we're given

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signals to move by UM an MP
called Andrew Mitchell. I think, UM,

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he's been identified. And Andrew Mitchell
has a very cozy relationship with guests

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who of our friend Bill Gates,
and I know people have recreated a picture

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of him, but like plenty of
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even you know, done what one
of the VIP ticket holders did that the

406
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James Tellerton at the Emmanuel Center recently, and just paid for the privilege of

407
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:34,319
having a large The pharmatical industry has
poured poured millions into buying off Parliament.

408
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:39,720
UM, Andrew Mitchell has definitely benefited
for he's definitely on at least one of

409
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the one of these these committees sort
of trying to promote you know, vaccine

410
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,079
awareness or I forget the exact the
exact one, but there's no question that

411
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:52,400
Mitchell is very much on the on
the Bill and Linda Gates, Gravy Traine

412
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:58,359
and but but I mean the broader
ist us this time that I'd hesitate before

413
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,119
saying that change that that could be. I mean that it may not be

414
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:04,200
true. I mean he may have. He may have, you know,

415
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,759
cooperated with Bill. I think he
was Secretary of State for Development at one

416
00:33:07,799 --> 00:33:13,359
stage, and he may have.
You know, he's been, he's been

417
00:33:15,359 --> 00:33:20,079
payroll. I don't that's not that
we don't know that that will have been.

418
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:24,480
He will have. He will have
been to um events sponsored by the

419
00:33:24,519 --> 00:33:31,480
Bill and Lindigates Foundation, pushing pushing
the vaccine, pushing pharmaceutical industry into interventions

420
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:37,880
that pretty much all of them have. My question to you is how you

421
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:45,279
feel about your ongoing support for a
political system which is now clearly so unfit

422
00:33:45,319 --> 00:33:50,440
for purpose that it that it no
longer believes in the basics of even the

423
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,640
illusion of a democratic process. Where
you've got an important issue, maybe the

424
00:33:53,680 --> 00:34:00,319
most important issue in politics right now, being ignored by the entire political class.

425
00:34:00,359 --> 00:34:02,640
I mean, how do you feel
about that? Andrew Bridgon, sorry

426
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:07,799
Andrew Mitchell, driving driving MP's out. How do you feel about the fact

427
00:34:07,799 --> 00:34:12,199
that they were they were willing to
leave. The debating house is a debating

428
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,480
chamber during this this speech by Andrew
Bridge, which is surely quite important.

429
00:34:15,679 --> 00:34:20,960
It may I mean, you may
be you know, adding two and two

430
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,280
and making five. I mean it
could be that Andrew Mitchell was ushering people

431
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:28,440
out of the debating chamber because you
know, there was a meeting in a

432
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,239
committee room. He do you think
so? Do you really believe that maybe

433
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:36,440
a friend of him holding a book
party? We don't know for sure.

434
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,400
You are taking the mickey there.
You cannot cannot you cannot believe that.

435
00:34:39,639 --> 00:34:44,039
You cannot We don't know for certain
that he was he was. Why are

436
00:34:44,039 --> 00:34:47,599
you making it for him? Well, I can't get a presumption of innocence,

437
00:34:47,639 --> 00:34:51,639
James. I think you're assuming guilt. You're assuming he was doing the

438
00:34:51,639 --> 00:34:55,320
bidding. When does that happen in
Parliament? When does When does the chamber

439
00:34:55,559 --> 00:35:00,320
get clear it? It usually is
quite empty for these a German debates,

440
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:04,840
and we saw him I think moving
one person on in the clip I saw,

441
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,000
or anyway encouraging one person to leave. But it could be that,

442
00:35:07,079 --> 00:35:09,800
you know, they had an appointment, they were supposed to have a drink

443
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:13,159
or something. I don't know it's
possible, James. I mean, you're

444
00:35:13,159 --> 00:35:16,639
assuming the worst, but we don't
know for sure. This is just risible.

445
00:35:17,599 --> 00:35:22,440
But nonetheless, James, I do
think that it's a shame that more

446
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,599
people weren't in the chamber to hear
what Andrew Bridge had to say. But

447
00:35:25,639 --> 00:35:29,960
I think we know why they weren't. More scandalous, James, I think

448
00:35:30,039 --> 00:35:36,559
is the fact that YouTube initially put
the video up on its platform and then

449
00:35:36,639 --> 00:35:38,599
removed it. Now they put it
back again now, And it may well

450
00:35:38,639 --> 00:35:43,239
be that it was kind of you
know, it triggered some algorithm, or

451
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,880
it was a decision made by someone
fairly low down the pecking order, and

452
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:49,480
it has now gone back up,
and we linked to it in the Daily

453
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:54,679
Skeptic round up this morning. But
I thought that was more scandalous, and

454
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:59,880
I think a taste of the over
removal were likely to see if any contentious

455
00:36:00,039 --> 00:36:06,239
content once the Online Safety Bill becomes
law. I'm just looking up, looking

456
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:15,480
up Andrew Bridging, and here he
is sectristate Andrew Andrew Andrew Mitchell first Overseas

457
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:22,679
speech given at Carnegie Endowment Washington,
Washington, DC, and talks about the

458
00:36:22,679 --> 00:36:27,840
inspirational work of Billy and Blind the
Gates. Yeah right, Okay, I

459
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:31,280
suspect he certainly gets a lot of
let's say, just gets travel expenses,

460
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:37,159
right, Um. He seems to
be very much on the on the bandwagon

461
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:42,599
with all this stuff. It just
makes you look silly when you say things

462
00:36:42,639 --> 00:36:45,599
like, oh oh, there might
have been a perfectly innocent explanation for the

463
00:36:45,639 --> 00:36:51,000
house being cleared in this way.
Just the house wasn't where has been cleared

464
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,880
as a slight exaggeration. There weren't
many people there, and in the video

465
00:36:54,000 --> 00:37:00,440
I saw Andrew Mitchell was encouraging encouraging
a woman in the House of Commons to

466
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:05,000
get up and leave. After Andrew
Bridge got up and started talking, you

467
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,960
didn't see him clearing the commons.
Do you think do you think maybe that

468
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:12,679
that she had an important headrest of
appointment and that that was why he was

469
00:37:12,679 --> 00:37:15,599
reminding her of is is that?
Would that be your explanation? There's only

470
00:37:15,679 --> 00:37:19,320
number of possibilities why I might have
been doing it. But I think your

471
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:23,800
your suggestion that this was completely innocuous
and unconnected with the speech by Andrew Bridging,

472
00:37:24,039 --> 00:37:29,880
who has been ostracized by pretty much
every MP in Parliament apart from Christopher

473
00:37:30,519 --> 00:37:35,320
Christopher Chope, and you say the
chamber wasn't completely empty, that's only because

474
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:40,079
I believe that certain a token number
of front benchers are obliged to remain there,

475
00:37:40,119 --> 00:37:45,320
including the gimp, the sort of
the pointlessly good looking young man who

476
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:53,559
just spouted government policy. I'm genuinely
concerned, hopes that at this point in

477
00:37:54,079 --> 00:38:01,000
the cycle, you are still defending
the government's failure to address the action injuries

478
00:38:01,039 --> 00:38:04,880
and the treatment of Andrew Bridge.
I don't, I do not get why

479
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:08,000
you are doing this. Is it
because you just respect the Conservative Party too

480
00:38:08,079 --> 00:38:10,800
March? Is it because you want
to be in with these people? I

481
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:15,599
don't. This is the game beyond
neutrality that you seem to be in,

482
00:38:15,639 --> 00:38:20,599
a adopting a position which is I
would say morally untenable. One reason,

483
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:30,719
one reason I am reluctant to convict
Andrew Mitchell of being part of a Bill

484
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:35,639
Gates led conspiracy to make sure no
one heard Andrew Bridging is because I don't

485
00:38:35,639 --> 00:38:39,079
know if you recall, but a
few years ago he was accused of calling

486
00:38:39,519 --> 00:38:45,159
a police officer standing outside the gates
of ten Downing Street a pleb. Remember

487
00:38:45,199 --> 00:38:52,239
that pleb Gate, and there was
another distraction well he at at Well it

488
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:59,400
proved to be a very costly distraction
for him because he unsuccessfully sued someone for

489
00:38:59,519 --> 00:39:02,239
libel. I believe over that.
But I always thought he was innocent.

490
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:07,679
I didn't believe it did a fit
people's kind of, you know, preconceptions

491
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:12,119
about the sort of language that kind
of these kind of tory toffs use when

492
00:39:12,159 --> 00:39:15,239
addressing ordinary people that get in their
way. To me, it never had

493
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,679
the ring of truth. I always
thought he was innocent. I mean,

494
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:22,079
immediately he wasn't able to prove his
innocence. But but but so I'm slightly

495
00:39:22,119 --> 00:39:27,440
reluctant to kind of, you know, charge him with something else, perhaps

496
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,599
not a serious but without without without
without without being a possession of the full

497
00:39:30,639 --> 00:39:35,280
facts, without having heard wa wow, wait a second, you are using

498
00:39:36,679 --> 00:39:40,599
you are now making this about It
doesn't really matter whether it's just a minor

499
00:39:40,639 --> 00:39:46,519
detail, the story that Andrew Mitchell
ushered out these emeralds. I think one

500
00:39:46,519 --> 00:39:52,440
that I saw anyway here, but
that there's a bigger issue at stake here,

501
00:39:52,559 --> 00:39:57,960
which is that Andrew Bridgeon made a
speech for twenty minutes on maybe the

502
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,920
most important issue facing people in as
country, the fact that their government has

503
00:40:01,039 --> 00:40:05,559
has conspired to make them, to
bully them, to blackmail them, to

504
00:40:05,599 --> 00:40:09,199
take a medical treatment that they did
not need, which has injured many of

505
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:14,400
them, who killed some of them. And you are you're saying, well,

506
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,639
it's kind of okay because reasons I
don't know. Why are you not

507
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:22,840
more uncomfortable? I think what's happening. I think you're misunderstanding what our point

508
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:30,280
of disagreement is. I'm not disagreeing
that vaccine harms is an important national issue

509
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:36,079
and deserves a lot of attention,
including attention from the government, and I

510
00:40:36,119 --> 00:40:37,800
think in due course it will,
it will get the why not why not

511
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:42,039
now? Well, I think I
think why not now? James? I'm

512
00:40:42,079 --> 00:40:45,039
not I'm not I'm not disagreeing with
you about that. What I'm disagreeing with

513
00:40:45,079 --> 00:40:50,119
you about is I don't think that
they're needed to be a Bill Gates led

514
00:40:50,159 --> 00:40:55,039
conspiracy in which Andrew Mitchell was a
kind of spear carrier in order to suppress

515
00:40:55,599 --> 00:41:00,320
attention interest in Andrew Bridge in speech. I think have you have you heard

516
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:04,480
about have you heard of Gabby?
Have you heard of the billman and the

517
00:41:04,519 --> 00:41:09,320
Gates Foundation. They are quite active
in promoting vaccines. They had been quite

518
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:15,480
major in the so called vaccine rollout. It's not yeah, but but but

519
00:41:16,119 --> 00:41:21,639
random computer geek who happens to have
been fingered with this thing in which he

520
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:24,039
has not which he has nothing to
do. But I would have thought that

521
00:41:24,039 --> 00:41:27,719
that, yeah, James, but
I would have thought that. Let's suppose

522
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:31,880
you're right and that Andrew Mitchell was
ushering an MP out of the chamber because

523
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:37,000
he didn't want Andrew Bridging to get
a hearing. I don't suppose suppose he

524
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:40,960
would have. He didn't need to
be coaxed into doing that. No phone

525
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:45,360
call or email from Bill Gates would
have been necessary. He is. Now

526
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:50,079
you're being slippery, now, James. What you don't understand is that because

527
00:41:50,159 --> 00:41:52,320
because you don't really leave your recod
chamber very often. But the vast majority

528
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:58,880
of people, the vast majority,
particularly people in Parliament, ex Government minister's,

529
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:04,320
senior officials, public health officials,
senior medics, they're all four square

530
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,639
one hundred percent behind the vaccine.
Think it was a miracle drug. And

531
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:12,360
they're very reluctant to change their minds
because of anchoring bias, because they don't

532
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:15,000
want to look like fools. They
don't want to seem like they were complicit

533
00:42:15,519 --> 00:42:19,280
in encouraging the public to do something
that actually, as you say, many

534
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:23,480
of them didn't need and in some
cases was harmful. That's why no one

535
00:42:23,519 --> 00:42:27,599
wants to pay attention to Andrew Bridging. It's not because they've been enlisted in

536
00:42:27,679 --> 00:42:32,119
some diabolical conspiracy. It's because they
made a stupid mistake eighteen months ago and

537
00:42:32,159 --> 00:42:36,159
a now unwilling to own up to
it. I think it wasn't it.

538
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:40,199
There was a fam at Mark Twain
said, it's far easier to sucker someone

539
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:45,440
than it is to persuade them that
they've been suckered. It's basic human psychology.

540
00:42:45,519 --> 00:42:52,320
You don't need this fanciful, incredible, fantastical explanation involving bill gates and

541
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,960
phone calls and the WEF to explain
this sort of behavior. And that's why

542
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:59,440
the MSM didn't cover Andrew bridge speach
either. That's our point of disagreement,

543
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:01,119
not that it's not an important issue. I agree it's an important issue and

544
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:06,440
should be debated in parliament. The
question is why why was his speech?

545
00:43:07,199 --> 00:43:08,639
Why didn't it get much attention?
Why wasn't it covered in the MSM?

546
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:13,079
Why did Andrew Mitchell if he did
usher that woman out of the chambers,

547
00:43:13,119 --> 00:43:20,239
because they're all brought into this group
think about the miraculous quality of the vaccine

548
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,440
eighteen twenty four months ago. So
they're now very reluctant to admit they made

549
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:27,360
a mistake for a variety of reasons. That's that's basic. Human psychology doesn't

550
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:32,719
require this kind of elaborate, fantastical
explanation that you're providing. It's a shame

551
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:39,840
that the completely non conspiratorial nature of
Bill Gates's involvement in this, I mean

552
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:45,119
the fact it's not any kind of
conspiracy theory. There is an organization called

553
00:43:45,159 --> 00:43:54,719
Gabby. Gates has pumped billions in
some billions into universities, Imperial College into

554
00:43:55,119 --> 00:44:02,119
which which of course funded the terrible
um neil Ferguson study, which which would

555
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:09,360
raise the scare mongering. It's his
funded uh A vaccine rest that some of

556
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:14,599
the vaccine research that led to the
creation of the so called oxyine Oxford vaccine,

557
00:44:14,639 --> 00:44:19,440
the Zenica. He's pumped money into
The Telegraph, into The Guardian to

558
00:44:19,559 --> 00:44:23,519
buy up this this to to create
this plant. You're crediting him with kind

559
00:44:23,519 --> 00:44:28,960
of global health security. James but
you're crediting him, You're crediting him with

560
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:30,519
being a thought leader. I'm just
not convinced he as a thought lead.

561
00:44:30,599 --> 00:44:36,000
No, no, he's following their
lead. He's not. What I'm saying

562
00:44:36,199 --> 00:44:37,920
is that is that all this stuff
is very much in the public domain.

563
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:42,760
So for you, so for you
to characterize it as this kind of oh,

564
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:45,880
this is a bit of an edgy
conspiracy theory is I would say disingenuous.

565
00:44:46,079 --> 00:44:49,639
But what I'm also saying is that
it really doesn't matter. I mean,

566
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:53,280
I regret having mentioned Bill Gates,
not because I think he's He's not

567
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:58,440
completely Germaine and and completely above board
in this in this story, his involvement

568
00:44:58,519 --> 00:45:01,199
is very very clear, but it
is enabled you to play the game whereby

569
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:05,280
you go, well, I don't
think that this this, this this man

570
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:08,519
in his in his agreeable sweaters,
with his background in the tech industry,

571
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:14,400
is some evil mastermind. I think
it's so. I don't I regret having

572
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:17,559
enabled you to play that disingenuous game. I just wanted you to answer me

573
00:45:17,599 --> 00:45:21,199
the more basic question, which you
have. I mean, I'm not sure

574
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:23,320
I convinced by your answer, but
you have answered the question why you think

575
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:29,880
it's okay for an MP to appear
in the House of Commons chamber and make

576
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:35,119
a twenty minute speech, which for
some really mysterious reason, even though lots

577
00:45:35,119 --> 00:45:42,199
of constituents have represented by these these
MPs have died or lost legs or had

578
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:46,480
life changing injuries which you would have
thought might be of concerned of concern to

579
00:45:47,559 --> 00:45:52,239
MP's representing. But you're you're going
back to I thought I cleared up this

580
00:45:52,599 --> 00:45:55,440
standing, James. I thought I
thought we cleared this up ten minutes ago.

581
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:59,440
Why are you pack on this.
What I'm saying is I'm unconvinced by

582
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:04,440
the explanation for why his speech received
so little attention that we're about. I

583
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,360
agreeing it should have got more attention. I'm unconvinced that you don't need to

584
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:09,480
hear that that that that lets seems
to go in one ear and out the

585
00:46:09,519 --> 00:46:12,639
other one. I say that to
you, Jents, I agree with you.

586
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:15,400
How many times do I have to
repeat it? I agree with you.

587
00:46:15,639 --> 00:46:19,159
His speech was important and should have
got attention, should have been covered

588
00:46:19,159 --> 00:46:22,360
in the mainstream media. The chambers
should have been full. But the reason

589
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:27,039
it wasn't is not because there was
some conspiracy to suppress the truth about the

590
00:46:27,119 --> 00:46:31,159
vaccines. It was because all these
people have a basic psychological motive for suppressing

591
00:46:31,519 --> 00:46:37,360
the mistake they made eighteen twenty four
months ago. That's what we're disagreeing about.

592
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:39,119
It's like, you don't, I
don't think you need to invoke a

593
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:44,920
diabolical conspiracy to explain why his speech
didn't get more attention. I can hear

594
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,639
you, I can, I can
hear you. Distraction listen. But while

595
00:46:47,639 --> 00:46:53,599
we're on the subject of odd behavior
by billionaires, I don't know if you

596
00:46:53,679 --> 00:46:57,039
saw, but you probably think this
is a distraction too. But it's a

597
00:46:57,079 --> 00:47:01,360
sort of odd left field distraction.
So Rupert Murdoch, having just I think

598
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:09,840
finalized his divorce with what's her face, Mick Jagger's ex, is now getting

599
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:15,400
married again. So it was announced
today that he's become engaged to a sixty

600
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:21,000
six year old called Anne Leslie Smith. He's ninety two. I mean,

601
00:47:21,159 --> 00:47:23,760
what's going on there? I mean, is he kind of he's ninety two?

602
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:28,480
I mean, how big a driver
can his libido be at that age?

603
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:34,239
Has he discovered some sort of magical
turbo charged viagra which means he's still

604
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:38,920
horny at the age of ninety two
and therefore just marries a succession of kind

605
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:44,519
of attractive sixty year olds, or
is it kind of revenge on his kind

606
00:47:44,519 --> 00:47:49,239
of ungrateful kids. He wants to
kind of squander as much of his fortune

607
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:52,480
on alimony, so he'll just kind
of marry and divorce, marry and divorce

608
00:47:52,519 --> 00:47:54,920
for as long as he possibly can
diminish his fortune, so there's just almost

609
00:47:54,960 --> 00:48:00,000
nothing left when the kind of when
they squabble over you know, over his

610
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:05,079
will. I mean, what's going
on there? If you were a ninety

611
00:48:05,079 --> 00:48:09,840
two year old multi billionaire, can
you imagine kind of you know, divorcing

612
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:14,960
and marrying, divorcing and marrying at
quite the speed that that Rupert Murdoch does.

613
00:48:15,119 --> 00:48:22,159
I forgot to mention the coolest thing
about about Saturday, Um at the

614
00:48:22,199 --> 00:48:25,159
meat at the at the beginning,
right at the beginning, I saw this

615
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:30,239
woman, a woman of a certain
age, on a black horse, and

616
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:35,159
she was smoking a fag. So
I instantly went over. I gravitated towards

617
00:48:35,159 --> 00:48:37,880
her because the smokers hang hang together, and I scrounged a fag off her.

618
00:48:38,559 --> 00:48:44,360
And it turned out she was eighty
one. She was still hunting at

619
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:49,039
eighty one. And if I'm if
I get that old, um, that's

620
00:48:49,079 --> 00:48:50,920
what I want to be doing.
I don't. I don't want to be

621
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:54,239
shagging under, you know, sort
of third, fourth or fifth wife.

622
00:48:54,679 --> 00:48:59,000
I'm perfectly happy with the wife I've
got. I don't don't need to buy

623
00:48:59,039 --> 00:49:02,760
a younger model or whatever. You
know, marriage is forever, um and

624
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:07,400
uh, I think it's part of
the kind of the sickness of the of

625
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:09,320
the elites. Yeah, I mean, you know, you look at look

626
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:14,760
at Mick Jagger. That we were
supposed to look up to Mick Jagger as

627
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:17,440
a kind of a sort of person
we'd like to be. He's not.

628
00:49:17,519 --> 00:49:22,639
He's just a sort of filthy old
man. He's just a priapic tosser.

629
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:25,719
And I think the same really applies
to Murdock. I don't. I don't

630
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:32,920
think there's anything attractive or desirable about
this serial, you know, serial husband

631
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:39,559
of of ever younger women. I
think it's just rather sad to be fair

632
00:49:39,679 --> 00:49:45,400
to him. I'm sure you don't
see why anyone should be. But Anne

633
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:51,119
Leslie Smith is I think sixty six, so I think she's she's not significantly

634
00:49:51,199 --> 00:49:55,280
younger, if indeed she's at all
younger than Jerry Hall. The former supermodel

635
00:49:55,320 --> 00:50:00,880
whom he has just award Howard Say, she's sixty six and he's ninety ninety

636
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:04,679
two. So there's it's quite an
age gap there, that is. How

637
00:50:04,679 --> 00:50:07,119
big is that? Twenty six?
Yeah, that's like you and me going

638
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:12,719
for a thirty two year old thirty. I can't. I can't do the

639
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:17,079
matter. It doesn't seem I think, you know, I think someone like

640
00:50:17,159 --> 00:50:22,599
twenty twenty six, twenty what would
it be. Yeah, we're so ancient

641
00:50:22,599 --> 00:50:24,360
we can't work it out. But
something yeah, twenty six in my case,

642
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:28,280
Yeah, thirty two, thirty three, something like that. Yeah,

643
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:31,280
yeah, I think that's perfectly that's
perfectly That would be perfectly acceptable, inn't

644
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:36,480
it. James, What do you
think that would be disgusting? Um?

645
00:50:36,639 --> 00:50:38,199
No, well, I mean I
don't. I don't want to knock people

646
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:44,559
with large gaps, you know.
And then I just think that I just

647
00:50:44,599 --> 00:50:49,639
think it's a bit it's a bit
revolting, just moving from from husband from

648
00:50:49,679 --> 00:50:57,920
wife to wife. Just like anyway, Um, whatever, whatever he's smoking,

649
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:00,760
I want to smoke some of that. Should we hear from our next

650
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664
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:23,760
yeah, I've there's been such a
dearth of stuff. Oh, by

665
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the way, that that Swedish series
I mentioned last week, you know,

666
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:36,639
the one year the Playlist. Yeah, it did something really stupid and quintessentially

667
00:52:36,679 --> 00:52:42,360
bloody Swedish I thought, which is
that the writers of the story, I

668
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:45,360
mean it was, it was interesting
up to up to this point, the

669
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:52,639
writers of the story felt compelled to
invent this character in the life of the

670
00:52:53,039 --> 00:53:00,800
founder of Spotify. She didn't exist. She was a kind of a a

671
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:07,800
sort of soul singer, and she'd
allegedly known the founder of I've gotten what

672
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:09,159
his name is now, the guy
who founded Spotify, what is he?

673
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:16,400
I don't know. Well, anyway, they invented her, and then they

674
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:23,880
had her launching launching a campaign which
ended up being discussed in Congress by this

675
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:35,079
kind of Daniel Eck Daniel Eck,
by this righteous crusading democrat in Congress,

676
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:37,920
and this stuff was all made up. It was just stupid. I was

677
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:42,079
really cross about that. Anyway,
There's been a real dearth of stuff to

678
00:53:42,119 --> 00:53:47,599
watch on TV, and I've gone
back to Yellowstone. Okay, yeah,

679
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:53,599
which season one, which I quite
liked, But apparently season two is by

680
00:53:53,599 --> 00:53:57,440
an order of magnitude better than season
one, So I really have got to

681
00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:00,920
get around to watching it. Yeah, so it's written by this guy called

682
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:08,119
Taylor Sheridan, who our friend Mark
Miller really rates because because he sees Um.

683
00:54:08,159 --> 00:54:14,440
He sees Yellowstone as part of this
backlash, because you know Mark think

684
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:19,880
Mark thinks that the entertainment moves in
eleven year cycles. Yes, we are

685
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:23,480
now very much in the anti work
stuff. Yeah, we're at the beginning

686
00:54:23,519 --> 00:54:28,119
of the next eleven year cycle at
last eleven year, which is which is

687
00:54:28,159 --> 00:54:34,480
why he thinks series like like Yellowstone
and the one with sliced alone set in

688
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:39,159
the Samaritan, Tulsa, Tulsa King
and and and so on. Yeah,

689
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:45,840
and why the highest gracing movie of
last year was Top Gun Maverick and exactly

690
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:51,719
that the sort of machismo is back. But although I enjoy Yellowstone and it's

691
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:58,800
it's fantastic seeing Um Kevin Costner as
this this that the guys are bastard,

692
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:02,039
that you love him because he's Kevin's
Kevin Costa, there's there's so much machismo.

693
00:55:02,199 --> 00:55:06,239
I love the horses. The horse
is great, but there is too

694
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:09,599
much machismo. And for me that
the men are always fighting with fists and

695
00:55:10,639 --> 00:55:15,079
it's not that the portrait of masculinity
is quite toxic, isn't it. That

696
00:55:15,119 --> 00:55:19,519
was my impression from watching season one. It didn't in all that non woke.

697
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:24,679
Um that's a good point actually,
Um, I kind of agree with

698
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:30,719
you there. I'm not thinking go
lads. Finally, we are being represented

699
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:35,159
fairly on on on screen. I
look at it and I think this is

700
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:43,079
just pornographic and it's in its violence, it's and it's not natural either.

701
00:55:43,119 --> 00:55:46,320
It doesn't strike me as real that
that we're sort of being invited into this

702
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:51,800
this this man's world, which doesn't
strike me as a as as genuine.

703
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:54,960
It's it's a kind of TV writer's
idea of a man's world. Yeah,

704
00:55:55,039 --> 00:56:00,440
which is not quite the same thing. It's almost as it has something Dallas

705
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:01,840
about it. I mean, I
think it obviously thinks it's alted to be

706
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:06,320
much much cleverer than Dallas, but
that's basically what it is. There is

707
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:10,239
something slightly schlocky about it. I'm
sure I'm going to have lots of lots

708
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:17,440
of Yellowston. Yeah. I thought
that the the the daughter played by Kelly

709
00:56:19,079 --> 00:56:22,519
whatever she's called, I thought I
thought. I thought she was a very

710
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:27,119
good character and she's a brilliant actress. The alcoholic. Oh, she's quite

711
00:56:27,199 --> 00:56:30,320
sexy kind of way. She's the
best thing and the best thing. She's

712
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:32,360
the best thing in it. Yeah, I quite like. But I'm willing

713
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:37,360
to give it another chance and go
on to season two. And also the

714
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:40,159
prequels are supposed to be very good
too, as the prequel with Helen Mirrorn

715
00:56:40,199 --> 00:56:44,000
and Harrison Ford that's supposed to be
very good, and there's another prequel too.

716
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:49,360
Anyway, I'm willing to buy into
the Yellowstone franchise and I'm going to

717
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:52,119
definitely watch season two. I didn't. I thought it was pretty good.

718
00:56:52,159 --> 00:56:55,960
But but yeah, I don't buy
this idea that it's um it's part of

719
00:56:55,960 --> 00:57:00,480
the kind of anti woke backlash.
Basically, Kevin Costner as the leader of

720
00:57:00,559 --> 00:57:06,000
what amounts to a criminal gang,
isn't he? Um? It is?

721
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:09,760
I think it's subtle as a rattlesnake. It pretends to be something more than

722
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:14,519
that, and it's not. It's
it's it's almost as bad. And that

723
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:19,280
terrible man, the awful man who
wrote Peaky Blinders him, the one who's

724
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:23,159
turning, who's turning, who's got
Pip in great expectations? Using the F

725
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:27,880
word, I mean, what's that
that's funny. I didn't realize that that's

726
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:32,840
that he's the guy that he sort
of first um came to prominence when he

727
00:57:32,079 --> 00:57:37,440
u he wrote he was the brains
behind who wants to be a millionaire?

728
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:39,880
A millionaire? Right? Oh?
Was he? I think so? Yeah?

729
00:57:39,639 --> 00:57:44,679
Yeah, Jasper Carroll, Stephen Knight, Stephen Knight. Yeah, Yeah,

730
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:51,000
he's horribly he's a hack, but
he's quite good at finding the stuff

731
00:57:51,039 --> 00:57:53,760
that gets commissioned. He did the
Sas series and stuff. Yeah, and

732
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:58,519
he's he's written did he did?
He did? He's sounding did he wrote

733
00:57:58,559 --> 00:58:01,880
that David Cronenberg film about kind of
Russian gangsters in London, which I thought

734
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:07,320
was quite good anyway, like that
one. Yeah, he's not he can

735
00:58:07,519 --> 00:58:10,559
he can be quite good anyway.
So I saw James like you, I've

736
00:58:10,559 --> 00:58:15,679
been sort of searching for new and
interesting things to watch, and so I

737
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:21,760
rather reluctantly watched episode one of season
three of ted Lasso, and I thought

738
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:24,800
Ted Lasso almost jumped the shark in
season two. I don't know if you

739
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:32,880
ever bothered with season one, but
season two was was was was significantly worse

740
00:58:34,039 --> 00:58:37,679
than season one and much woker in
a kind of really grating irritating way.

741
00:58:38,159 --> 00:58:43,679
And season three is even worse.
So it's just awful and I'm not going

742
00:58:43,679 --> 00:58:45,079
to watch the rest of it.
I watched how did it go? How

743
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:51,519
does this wokeness express itself? Well, well, I suppose, first of

744
00:58:51,559 --> 00:58:55,920
all, the figure of ted Lasso
is a kind of completely pathetic man.

745
00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:04,639
He's been less by his wife.
Yeah, he's a kind of sentimental,

746
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:09,599
doting father. He's pushed around by
his female boss. He's a kind of

747
00:59:09,679 --> 00:59:15,599
beata male in the locker room,
and you know, he's all his problems

748
00:59:15,599 --> 00:59:20,079
are supposedly because he didn't have a
loving enough relationship with his own father.

749
00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:23,320
And everything is soluble by the right
kind of therapy. And it's a kind

750
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:27,599
of advertisement for it's almost like kind
of it's almost like a kind of the

751
00:59:27,719 --> 00:59:34,639
television a manifesto that Prince William and
Prince Harry would have produced to promote their

752
00:59:34,679 --> 00:59:38,599
idea that all men need therapy and
that we need to start talking about our

753
00:59:38,639 --> 00:59:44,440
mental health, and that toxic masculinity
is rooted in the stiff upper lip,

754
00:59:44,559 --> 00:59:47,480
but not talking enough about our feelings
and not being able to express something or

755
00:59:47,519 --> 00:59:50,760
being in touch with them. That's
the kind of that's the sort of that's

756
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:53,280
the sort of underlying agenda. It's
all about, you know, the benefits

757
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:59,440
of therapy for bottled up men who
had difficult relationships with their fathers. But

758
00:59:59,519 --> 01:00:05,800
also the female characters are just unremittingly
awful, so they're constantly talking about sex

759
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:09,159
and their sexual needs and a kind
of vulgar in your face way. In

760
01:00:09,239 --> 01:00:15,960
one scene in episode one, season
three, this woman who was the pr

761
01:00:16,119 --> 01:00:20,000
for the football club for Richmond FC, is to set up her own PR

762
01:00:20,079 --> 01:00:23,760
company and at one point she's in
a meeting with her best friend who's the

763
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:28,239
owner of the football club, and
she just suddenly burst into tears and it's

764
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:30,719
like totally unclear what's going on,
as best friend asked, when it turns

765
01:00:30,719 --> 01:00:35,519
out that she's scheduled time for herself
to cry, because don't you know all

766
01:00:35,639 --> 01:00:38,679
women need time in the day to
have a good cry. They describe it

767
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:43,159
as an orgasm of the soul,
and I guess that's in keeping with the

768
01:00:43,199 --> 01:00:49,599
general theme that whatever fleeting emotion happens
to be flickering across your psyche has to

769
01:00:49,639 --> 01:00:55,360
immediately be expressed and indulge, because
emotional incontinence is a virtue. But yeah,

770
01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:59,480
I don't think it's a particularly flattering
portrait of kind of modern career women

771
01:00:59,519 --> 01:01:04,280
that they have to kind of make
appointments to cry at their desks. I

772
01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:08,880
mean, good lord. Anyway,
it was just ghastly, beyond imaginably ghastly.

773
01:01:09,199 --> 01:01:13,840
And my wife and I sat there
and taught that's it. We are

774
01:01:14,079 --> 01:01:16,280
categorically giving up on this program.
We're not going to watch the rest of

775
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:19,719
it. Well, I'm glad.
I'm glad you've saved me, because I

776
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:25,079
did find it. It was already
bordering on the on the two twee for

777
01:01:25,119 --> 01:01:29,760
comfort. It was all it was
so sweet natured, and I did,

778
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:34,400
Yeah, you're right, it's far
too sweet that the kind of corniness of

779
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:38,440
Ted Lasso and his kind of you
know, his down home, good humored,

780
01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:45,920
corny homespun Forrest Gump wisdom. It's
just it's totally you know, outstair,

781
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:51,440
it's welcome, it's it's yeah,
jump the shop, don't watch it,

782
01:01:51,519 --> 01:01:55,000
Okay, I think that's probably I
didn't have anything more from corner.

783
01:01:57,599 --> 01:02:00,360
Yeah, I've got I've also I've
got to go and make porridge for I

784
01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:05,599
guess with my largest class. So
this is the timing is good, suggested

785
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:09,559
so there we are to talk.
Yeah, I'll have no hunter to talk

786
01:02:09,559 --> 01:02:12,800
about this week because I don't know
what I'm going to talk about really,

787
01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:17,760
because it's like, you know,
Roll on September. Well, of course

788
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:23,480
then then then Autumn Hunting was its
name. I think it starts yeah,

789
01:02:23,559 --> 01:02:30,239
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