All right, the bomb Cast coming at you today on February fourth through.
What do we have in store for the folks? Well, the Vicksburgs are
gonna start off a set and then that'll be followed by the Wonders. Geez,
that's great. Brad Shoemaker will be here all right, and what's he
gonna be doing? All right, that's fantastic. Also joining us later on
in the show, we'll have Will Smith. I'm the first guest on the
new Tonight Show with Jimmy Fallon. Jimmy Fallon, I love games and Dave
Snyder. I'm here. Apparently according to Twitter, I still work here.
Yeah, I think probably according to our every time BASI employees, you probably
still work here too. Every time your website goes down. I still get
Twitter's work great. Yeah, tough men. Thanks. Jeff bailed out.
He's going to all world hopping crazy looking at video games. Wait our side
down side down down? You're getting Are you getting Twitter? Is it right
now? Sometimes the fun ones I get now, or people will just send
me like when other websites are down down down? Yeah, can you get
that up? I gotta place his Amazon order. I'm the Lord of the
entire I got. I got a couple of them. Joke. I like
it. That's funny, that's good stuff. You should save that for the
podcast I can do. I'm Vinny Caravella. Today We're gonna be talking about
all sorts of things. And I am extremely excited because not only do we
have, like we said, Brad Shommaker and Drew Scalon, but Dave Snyder.
Uh, you might know from I don't know, what have you done
in the past. I put logos on the wall here? Yeah that was
you. Yeah, put a couple of those there. Could you cut the
transparency part out because it really bugging me that it shows like white through and
I keep telling people that I'm not good at logos and they just keep using
them. And you were from you were in kninteen The Widowmaker, right,
I was, Oh, that guy Rory Schneider or Shider Roy Shider, yes,
space. I always thought it was a Snyder, but it's actually Shider.
Yeah, very different. He was in Jaws. He had a good
part twenty ten the year remake Contact he was which with I really enjoy hell
Miren, like that super hot young Helen Mirren is in Yeah She's a rush
a Russian accent. Wait what I believe it's called twenty ten. Let's not
get ahead of ourselves here, blessed slallables, slallables. Who's that? That
must be Will Smith? Mispronouncing Hi hi doing Will Smith? For people who
don't know you may know me from such things as executable. Yes, and
he's the founder of PC gamer exactly, look it up. I invented PC
gaming. Actually, yeah, it's pretty the first one for that too.
I'm not that old vinn for PC gaming. Don't invent PC gaming. I
played them one tank platon reinventing PC gaming Will Smith And now you can find
him over at test dot com. If you don't know who these people are,
asked the guy who asked you to listen to the bomb cast, he'll
he'll fill you in the old times. Yeah, yeah, yeah, kind
of remember that time that we that Dave played Grand Frisby five really shit faced
and poured tequila in a Tate blind taste test, And yeah, but I
did much better after I was drinking, which that was the guys. We
can't talk about this, we can't. We don't own those moments anymore.
Oh no, yeah, sorry, so you can. You can probably talk
about those way. Yeah, yeah, Bun owns that. You guys own
those moments. Well those along to Whiskey Media. I don't know we posted
on our website there there are YouTube channel. You don't have to pay for
him over there. Wait what I mean? We'll tell us what happened at
Whiskey Media. I don't have to remind me of the days. We used
to work in a basement, true, remember, and then we moved to
another basement. Yeah, it seemed like a better basement, but we were
always sick all the time in that second base mold. And then I built
Lego and you built and then you got something called a maker bought and then
things went to hell and we wound up here. So what else did you
do Drew at Whiskey Media? Or this weekend? Go back, go back
as far as transition. That all happened this weekend? Yeah, where were
you watching the Big Game? I bet Jude you watch the Super Bowl?
Whoa, whoa, whoa? Don't know that was on Fox this year,
not CBS. I'm sorry. I bought a two broke bowls that's on upn
ceramic bowls is still emotion over and over again. Would you do this weekend,
I bought a over the air antenna. Okay, like wait what like
yeah, yeah, which one? Uh? The leaf? I've just got
one of those two? Oh I have that. It's like flat, yeah,
and it's white on one side and black on the other. It was
this on a site called tested dot com last week. I'm sorry, don't
you something you don't acknowledge it, we'll just bleep it out later. Is
that you guys? Yeah, it's like that, except it's a lot more
charming without a sixth floor. So I looked it up. Wow, and
uh, the only channel I don't get is Fox. I guess the superc
NBC, so clear out of the South Bay cannot wait for the Olympics.
But I don't get Fox, which is what the super Bowl was on.
So I had my friend bring over his cable box, which I didn't even
know this works. He has HD Comcast and I have SC Comcast and it
totally worked. Wow, you plugged? Did they? Did they encrypt the
HD channels though, like over the air one? No, the Comcast Comcast
was for a long time they were supposed to not do that. Yeah they
do know, yeah they fucking you just get a loop of like a dude
that's like, oh, you should sign up for Comcast's serious. Yeah,
it's just a dude. Like I used to get regular, you know,
television through the Comcast cable up until until the last September. I had the
cable q AM is what that's called. Like, Yeah, that coax runs
straight into my TV. And yeah, I got all the local ship.
Yeah. And they rolled this out in stages nationwide. It's like, you
know, SF got it one month and then like Chicago Market got it the
next month. Oh, we got it. But yes, yes they're giving
it to us. Yeah. You have to get Yeah, you have to
get like a tiny little decoder box now from them, just to watch the
local channels, which I thought was illegal. But no, that the it
expired. I'm sure. I'm sure it was the thing that was mandated for
a certain period of time. And then fuck the man. Yeah, so
you drew you were paying for SD ten, twelve, thirteen channels whatever.
Yeah. And then because it's cheaper to do that, get internet. That's
what I have. Yeah, I have the SD package with the with the
best internet. Yeah. And then a friend brought over his special boxes beefy,
I get nine yeah, and it just worked. Is that that's great?
Friend, my friend Jeff, I think it works in satellite dishes.
I don't know. Whatever weird thing. Jeff comes over. You get all
the channels for free all the time. Oh, I see how that's going,
my friend Jeff. Friend wink mister Wirecause in my Comcast box, you
know that little that giant box on the side of an apartment or in your
house or whatever, and then you open it up and it's like one wire
with like a little splitter on it. One is unlocked. I thought they're
supposed to lock those up. I should get in there and monkey ramp blow
it out and I'll get he who watches TV sports, right, yep?
The Big Game? Yep, tell me about it. It was going to
be the worst Super Bowl game in history because I think the worst margin for
a Super Bowl game was forty five points. The Niners beat the Broncos fifty
five to ten one year like Super Bowl twenty four John Elway year, right,
Yeah, and then the Red Skin speed them. Yeah. It was
a real slacking year after and so this and this was almost going to be
that. So we would have had a record, but we didn't. So
it just break record. It's just a horrible game. It was, it
was, it was actually it was actually disappointing that it wasn't disappointing enough exactly.
Peig Manning had the most completions of any Super Bowl quarterback, that's true,
but they were all for like three yards. Yeah, there were a
lot of little hun nachos. We had a lot of stuff. Let's break
it down. What is Jews Super Bowl spread? So I just I just
got the Drew's house. Hey, Drew, has it going well? Vinnie?
Yeah? Generally done paroguis every year. It's like it's a Polish dumpling,
looks kind of like a pot sticker, but inside is one of two
fillings, either saur kraut and onion or potatoes and cheese. I'm on,
potato and cheese sound pretty good. So no meat this year in lieu of
the potatoes and cheese. I did meat and cheese. I did like,
uh, like a lean beef with palapa. No, It's okay, that's
what they call me and ice and some cheese. There's there goes lean beef,
lean look out, caravels lean beef. And I made it with gluten
free dough wow, which did you bind it real hard? Was there like
a girl that you had the jones for? Coming over some some gluten free
girls. I'm I'm going, is that girl you are? Yep? Oh
wow? So I come over and I'm like, man, I at prose
every year at Drew's house for the Super Bowl. Check it out? And
then how were they? They're actually pretty good. I gotta told you they're
fantastic. I got a low yield this year because they were kind of crumbly
the gluten free dough. It makes it tough. Also, I didn't put
any eggs in. I did my weird egg substitutions, so the recipe was
like half original and half Drew's concoction. Yeah, but they turned out.
I'm I got like a dozen, and I just scooped the filling out the
left over field because you should have extra filling right at that point. Yeah,
it's still my frage. I'm just gonna just getting you're lean beef.
Yeah, there you go, just throw some pork gander and yeah, or
sawdust guacamole stuff. I didn't do guacamole. I don't eat parogui, so
what else can I eat? I do? But I'm playing a character.
There was mac and cheese. Somebody bringing that? Yep, actually it was
gluten freeze. Well wow, a couple of chocolate e treats, like the
ones with the like the checks mix and you toss it in the chocolate and
then the powdered sugar. Okay, sure, yes, yes, yeah,
uh, let's give it a name. What's that thing called spiders dirty rascal
or something like something for dirty Rascal like Jews, party checks mixteen, Choco
Rex, Chaco Rex. Yeah, some chocolate bars also, uh? And
homemade pizza. I love homemade pizza. Yeah, how much of that?
Was there? Three pies like twelve inch diameter? Or we're good like?
Uh? Like that? What is that that? That's sixteen? That's sixteen
and a order? I know that? Liked exactly. It sounds like a
party. You had people over fifteen people. Do you have alcohol? Oh?
Yes, you have cider? Yes? Do you have a kig?
No? Would you? They would have? Did the neighbors bang on the
walls, ceiling, end or floor? It's the big game? Yes?
Yeah, they played at one. They played at halftime liquor? How can
we taste so good? Was there ever a line for your bathroom? No?
But it was in and out. Did you have a bathroom by the
end? Uh? Just you have just one smoking the tub looks pretty right.
Oh I didn't need to hear joke. Yeah sure, you can't back
special parrog gros. Yeah sure, it's been fun, but I gotta walk
the dog. Yeah. Yeah, so you guys later. Thanks? Say
how to brown Liquid? Yeah? So do you do anything video game related?
Well? Did you enjoyed it? Regardless of the game. It sounds
like a good time for friends, family food. Yeah. Uh, did
you do any video game stuff? Not this weekend, but I did play
for a quick look last week Black Guards. Yeah you did. Taking place
in the Dark Eyes the Dark Eye universe? Dark Eye? Is it Dark
Eye? Is it one of the German ones? Yes? Yeah, I
think it is. So it was the they did. What was the one
that was based off the Aurora engine stuff? Oh yeah, Dragon sang to
be sure? Is that Dark Eye? The one we did was Chains of
santitav Yes, that was the adventure. Adventure was based in that universe.
Santata have a location or a person's which you used to get your hands really
clean. I thought that was the bad guy from Hell Raiser. Yeah,
sure, it depends Yeah, Sanitas German, Santa C, santab something that
comes with like two pages of advertisement says that it will kill you well experience.
It does treat dark eye. I thought it was the stuff you put
in the dishwasher that makes your your glasses rents clean. Sure, yeah,
it's better, but it's not good for the environment, don't. That was
a that's a turn based hex. Yeah, go get it. It's kind
of ex COMI with swords with swords yeah, and bows and magic. But
man, it's it's pretty much when you go to a character sheet and try
to upgrade your dude, it's like hardcore D and D. Oh, man,
I'm in you are you actually it actually says character sheet, Yeah,
and I tell you're gonna say it said buy it, Dave. And it's
got your dice. It's got like your hit is not a number. It
is a number. But then it also says like, hey, what do
you say your weapon is like yeah, this is like this is like pen
and paper German D and D. Yeah, I think you sent me.
The wiki article on it was like the most popular fantasy board game in D
and D and then went out of the other than D and D went out
of business in like nineteen eighty nine and like got one bankrupt, and I
was like that stinks. If you're the most popular thing in a country you
still go out of business. Yeah, I got sorry, no wen,
I got an orange set and grace what you get? What are you get
in that? You got one D six, one D four? I got
full sets? Die right. I had one set. And so I've been
playing with these like hardcore D and D guys and they come over with like
like they just have so much gear from their like childhood and stuff, like
all these kind of craps, and I was like, wait a second,
you're throwing like two dice. Oh I could be doing I could be making
my role so much faster if I had sure the whole staff you had bought
someone we played. I just had like as set. You can but you
can go, like you can go to one of those checks mix or whatever
the places chest six cho Rock, the place that sells my god. I
bought some dollars and you can just buy a sack of like shiploads of deaths
eight dollars. They need to be themed towards my character. Yeah, well
you got both. You get the pound to die, and then you got
the I pay twenty dollars for a pound of dice when I could pay?
But hey, can you can you? Uh? I don't want to out
anybody here, but can I hear some of the character names from your group?
Sure? There's uh. My character's name is Krell. Okay, he
is a half orc pirate. Okay, who uh is? Uh? He's
a storm lord Silent, He's a weather domain. And you guys are playing
Pathfinder. We're playing path Finder? Okay? Yes, all right? Who
else is there? I want to guess what they are? You don't even
remember your team. I can't even blank out. You can't even remember Ian's
character's name. Do you have anybody with a name that ends an I?
E? En? If my name was Ian, all my characters would always
end an A. His are always like John's sword magic or his are always
like lawyers that somehow gets trapped in the plane universe. Like that's what he's
playing, like Bill cast a spell? Yeah? Exactly, yeah, James
Casino, all right, well, Calvin Kelvin's and Archer okay and Elf Archer?
How many dudes during your party? We have four? And then we
have a really hardcore DM. Do you hire him? Uh? We did
not hire him. He uh weirdly enough is like my neighbor that is weird,
super weird is really weird. But he comes like super prepared with the
maps your relationship. Don't make your neighbor and your DM. We play for
eight hours. Jesus, he lived right next door eight hours. How do
you pay back that child sitting debt? With bluegrass? The currency of yeah,
okay, two bluegrass sessions gets he smokes cigars or something while it's happening.
No, but it in the garage everybody poker table. Uh, every
now we do it in our kitchen. Everybody's got like chips and beer and
it's as silly as you. That's fun. But it sounds like, yeah,
Drew, So what do you have to say about the Dark Eye slash
Blackguard? They don't didn't do such a great job of explaining like how all
the character stuff works, or really how you should upgrade a dude because I
was getting XP but I had no idea where I'm putting because there's like five
when you going to upgrade your guy, there's like five different tabs, each
with a different skill tree. It looked like when we were in Pathfinder,
like those skill books, I had no idea where to go, but I
liked the combat. Uh, and the story was you know fine. Yeah,
the voice acting seemed totally reasonable. Yeah, you know, it seemed
like a fun thing to kind of propel you through the game. So I
don't know. If I had more time, maybe I would dedicate some hours
sitting down and figuring it all out. Sure, but it's fun to play.
Yeah, Dave, you should check it out. I think it's Ripprey.
Did you anything else rocking? Oh? Not really, we're chilling.
No, then let's go on. It's a mister shoemaker. Mister Shoemaker,
you had yourselves a little little weekend fun I did. Yeah, Oh it
did. I could tell you came in this morning. I'll chipper and happy,
ready to go radiant? Oh yeah, yeah, Brad's pregnant. It's
a super Bowl yesterday, Yeah, the big game. Did you do anything
for it? Sat on the couch and drank and but you did watch it?
Yeah? Okay, about halfway through I wish I hadn't. It's always
the best kind of super slowly regret sitting there. It was just a terrible
game. Moment was over, halfway through there was a there was a moment
when Jerry and George came out and talked about why they weren't at the right
party. I don't know. Pretty good commercials totally worked for me. Oh,
I don't think it worked, but you know it was better than the
football game. Like, yeah, I guess that's true. Well, there
you go. I guess enjoyment through schadenfreude at the Super Bowl. Yea,
we Jerry Sidefeld has gotten old. We bet a lot interesting like like like
there's a not string bets, uh hedge bets or they call it. There's
a word for this in Vegas when you go to Vegas and you go to
the sports book and you're betting on like I bet that somebody will make a
three point shot in the next forty sixty one sixty to one that there'd be
a safety in the as the first school. Actually, one of my walls
is all that big led screen with all the bets on itself. It's not
like a side belt sidelines kind of side. But there's a specific word for
it. People have real gambling problems will know immediately. I can't remember you
see did you see did you see Mark Cuban tweeting that he made twenty million
dollars off that game. From what, wait, isn't that illegal? Off
that game? It was? It was specifically that he doesn't own the Broncos
or the Seahawks. Doesn't he? Yeah, doesn't, doesn't he? I
forget how it worked out, but it was it was that safety on that
first play or whatever. I don't know football that well, but whatever it
was, he had bet like a million dollars on that. Exactly what's he
gonna do that? Like that exact thing happening? It was sixty It was
sixty to one that there would be a safety as the first score. Okay,
do you reach a position in your life you're like, I'm gonna bet
a million dollars? It might have been less. The better question is how
do you get to that point in your life where you then brag about it.
That's probably the same guy. I'm gonna say. It's probably around the
ten to fifteen million mark. You think it's don't really work anymore, and
and before you get to hey, I'll pay you to so I can ship
in your mouth. Yeah, exactly. I was at Drew the Department in
the tub, and now I just won twenty million dollars shift the tub doesn't
do it from to make it interesting? Yeah, yeah, I'll give you
ten. And I was like, just shit in your mouth right now and
then say then the other guy probably doesn't post on Twitter. That's like I
just made ten million dollars off that Super Bowl. That guy just kind of
walks away. Invest that what you're saying, is it Mark Cuban. Somebody's
shitting in his mouth for seventy million dollars. I'm not saying that you did.
But thanks for the update. And that's will Smith Lays and gentlemen you
can find and I've seen it. Yeah, brat Shoemaker. What else did
you have going on? Oh man? What didn't I have going on?
Okay, video games, everything, everything. Didn't do anything this week?
Now, that's great. Did you would you eat? I only ordered pizza
one night? And did you order too much? You get a little bit
of a bachelor weekend? I was by myself. That's great. I don't
know, it wasn't as it wasn't quite as liberating as I thought it would
be. Yeah, you're finding as you get older, you're just you're not
indulging as much. No, it's not even that so much as it's been
so long that it just made me realize how much the other person is doing.
Oh I see, okay, you know what I mean. Yeah,
it's all of a sudden, it's like, wait a minute, now I
have to do everything. Like, man, I've been living with somebody for
a long time, and the magic laundry nomes aren't coming anymore. What the
hell? Kind of like they go away too. Yeah, oh man,
this bathroom stinks. It was Yeah, it was like it was I guess,
just a perfect storm of like, well, this hasn't been done in
a while, and this hasn't been done in a while, and there's no
more money in my savings. But I spent like half the weekend doing doing
laundry, and of course we're shopping and cleaning and stuff like that. Yeah,
but a little time to remember how much you appreciate your love to win
absolutely is worth it's weight in gold. It's better than odeeing on pizza.
Dave Snyder played I'm sorry it back. I thought that I didn't do anything,
but it summed up pretty much what you did this weekend that is just
sitting around playing videos. Okay, so what'd you play. I put a
little more time in the dark Souls. Not a whole lot, okay,
but the one thing that I did was trying to go back to the asylum.
And did you so? Some he had tied on the asylums where you
start, right, yeah, and the demon there is horrible Uh th you
mean the second one, the one that you fight at the end of the
tutorial mission. Oh no, well there's another version of that thing that you
fight when you get back, you know, I know, yes, how
did you get back there? So somebody had tipped me off there, like,
hey, there's a ring in the asylum. You should go get since
you're heading into blight Town and it'll make things a lot easier. Tip.
So I started talking to you about it, and I was like, well,
I ran around and I saw that crow. Yeah, there's got to
be a way to get back there. What am I supposed to do?
Yeah? What did I say? And you were like, I think you
actually you wanted to tell me, right, I said. Another friend of
mine had had said like, when I asked him what to do is look
around? He was like, figure it out. I think I gave you
a tip, right, I gave you another hint you started to or you
said, you said, like, you'll never figure this out. It's incredibly
obtuse. It's pretty let me just tell you what to do. I think
I said there's a nest somewhere. Yeah, it wasn't that. Well.
I think it's pretty fucking obscure, pretty crazy. You have to jump off
of something onto something else. Yeah, you have to jump off of several
things. And that's part elevator down from the cathedral. Yeah. So yeah,
you're writing an elevator and you have to step off at the right time
to land on a certain ledge. Yeah, that part's not the obtuse part
you're frying. You're right, that part is is relatively self explanatory compared to
what comes after that. Yeah, and this is not spoiler. You have
to curl up there. You get to a nest, you find like a
big old nest somewhere, and then there's a prompt when you walk in it
that says curl up yes, and you're like, okay, you do that
exactly, and then you sit there for like a minute. How do you
do that? It's just it's a button. And then you sit there for
maybe thirty seconds or a minute. Nothing happens. So you can hit beads
to get out of it and walk away. But if you wait there for
like a minute in one second, then like a birdle come jack crow comes
and grabs you and take you back to this island. So so when I
got there, when I was playing, the prompt never came up. So
I just was like, well, fuck, maybe I have to wait like
an hour, so I just left it running. When did the dishes wash,
the laundry came back? Nope, nothing man had to reload. It's
just the the insane number of steps between like jumping off the elevator at the
right time and setting up to the nest. Yeah, but that stuff is
fine for me. It's like if you know where to go. When you
look at it, it's like, all right, yeah, I guess I
can see how I jump onto that pillar and then run across this roof.
But like you're fighting the level geometry the whole way and like mechanics that are
not platform. Yeah, it's like it's a it's a real pain in the
has to make that jump and then you have to like roll up hill that
you can't run up at one point. But the thing that is good about
that. I was just talking to my little brother about this because he was
doing it as well. You know, there are items up there. You
can see that there's a way to get up there. This is intentional for
to put the player up there. It's not a glitch or something like that.
So you're like, well, how do I get those items? I
need to be able to get up there. So that drives that whole thing
to curl up in a ball and not immediately have a reward for doing so.
I think it is the kind of tougher pure. I wonder if they's
shortened that because I don't feel like I sat there that long. It kind
of just shave me. I mean, it just felt like that for me.
I don't know throughout that whole process, And eventually I just looked up
what to do because fuck running around in that area for an hour trying to
figure it out. Yeah, but at some point I started questioning It's like,
why am I sitting here doing this? I see that this game is
so up its own ass sometimes, so I found that as part of my
natural like I want to collect all of the dumb shit. No, just
because once I was up there, it was like, oh yeah, maybe
there's something more around this corner. Yeah, and then there's a butt the
you know, but yeah, no, I totally did you beat the Turn
of the Asylum dad. I didn't have time to play a whole lot after
he'd beat my ass on as soon as I got think it gonna be pretty
that crazy magic attack that hits you like in a like a one hundred and
eighty degree arc in front of you or whatever. So he was really tough.
I don't remember finding him when I first was playing, and it was
it was I had an exceptionally hard time. You know, getting behind him
is obviously where you want to be, right, and that's exactly exactly when
you're his big old rump. He dignified rump is when he's got all he's
got a lot of dignity things. Yeah, it's always dignity in the backside.
And what do you do with dignity? You squish you when you do
a sitting attack, or sometimes he just whales his dignity around and hits you.
I don't know if you can get to a bonfire there. But like
when i'd lost to him the first time and realized I was gonna have to
do platforming, bullshit again. There is a bonfire, right okay, right
on the right when you're going on the road, I'll see, okay,
because when you're watch when you're okay, yeah, because because when you're run
back in there, you know, the floor just collapses when you walk,
you know that. So all right, I'll hug the wall next time and
see how that goes. Did you do anything else a video game? A
wise? I cracked into Fable Anniversary and what is new in Fable? What's
what's cracking in Fable? It looks better? Yeah, I guess they ported
it to the Fable one. Yeah, that's the first game. Wown came
out on the Xbox right, yeah, g Xbox and two thousand and four.
I thought it was an older game than that, but it was like
towards the end of the original Xbox, right before the three sixty came out.
And is this is? Is they a face lefter or mechanics? I
guess they. I guess they must apported its unreal because there's a big fat
unreal engine logo at the beginning. What was it? I don't know.
I thought it was head Engine before. Yeah, you know, it looks
it looks okay, still have the crazy long tutorial. I just remember they
can really long, like when you play as the child. Yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah you yes, you definitely still go through all of that.
Run Run, Run, Run, Run Run Run. Chicken. Well,
you're the chicken chaser, but that's after you chicken chase, Chicken Chase,
Chicken Chase, have a chicken chase. He doesn't look much like a
chicken chasing Chicken chase chicken Chase. Why I stopped? That game has such
a dumb, quirky charm to it. Is it still cheeky? Yes?
Like I from what I've played of it so far, I feel like it's
the most fably of all the Fable games. But I really didn't play much
of two, so I guess I thought it was the good one. Yeah,
can't say that with authority, but like, I guess this one has
more personality to it than I remember. Did you play three? Yeah?
I remember, I had. Okay, I had a slow through that whole
thing. For a review, I thought three was maybe the weakest. Absolutely,
I don't think anybody would disagree with that. But I like the multiplayer
stuff into a lot with you miss that because you were Yeah, but I
think I trade dolls. I'm kind of into this though, actually think I'm
gonna keep playing it for a while. Fable one, I think, I
think, I think this first one holds up better than I would have expected.
Is it a three sixty game? Yeah, it's three sixty, you
know it looks good? Like I wait, this is Fable HD on three
sixty? The hell are we doing here? Wasting times? Really weird?
Fired up that console? It's been weeks. Well, why they released an
HD remake on a previous gen system. That's where all the people are.
But then, let I just can't get another Fable trilogy on the Xbox.
Well they're making They're supposedly making a new Fable for Xbox One, but I
thought we were talking about video games, not baby toys. Something. Something
about this one feels like it's the most free wheeling of the Fables, you
know, I feel I feel like the focus was young and young and buck
Fable well that, but like the focus was still just on Hey, do
you want to have an angel halo or devil horns? For sure? You
know what I mean. It's it's like that game is just like morality slider
of the game. You know, It's like here's two versions of the quest.
Do you want to protect the farm or or fuck it up? Like
just just straight up? Do you want to be a good guy or back
too? Yeah, but he didn't play Usually if you sink your teeth into
this one, you should prob check out too. I've always thought about going
back and playing two. I wish they had done a PC version of it
though, And two I think I think the story continues a little more.
So, Yeah, like playing this now because like I think they check of
your sister is Teresa or Teresa? Yeah as a child? Who? I
think it's kind of the central figure of fable right, uh? Fable three
definitely, or at least two. Hell man, I kind of can't remember
the fable though. I don't know. Story never seemed like the focus there.
But anyway, I think this thing is maybe better than I expected it
to be. That's cool. We'll be doing a quick look at that right.
Oh yeah, there should be a quick look up. Not anymore.
I didn't really gotta go three sixty out packed those away? Yeah? Did
you really go to put them in? Howk I think Jeff got money for
this trip? Yeah? Still they're still progies, don't come cheap, still
games coming out, all those things, It's true, and as three,
I still got him hunked up in the house. Dark Souls coming out,
Yeah, there's a few games. And have you made a progress in Banner
Saga? No, no, it's kind of taking that off the table.
I tried to play it the day it came out, and it just didn't
grab me. I played the multi player version of that game when it came
out before it was it seems it seems well made. I want to check
it out. Yeah, yeah, you might get you know, more free
time. You might be into it, but I don't know. I just
didn't really pull me along. You didn't have a pause. You couldn't pause
it, you couldn't stop it convenient times when I played that game. Yeah
that one man, honey, you're see if your dad can help see?
No, No, that Yeah, I haven't had that. I got it.
I'll be there just a minute. So I've been playing some more dark
shows and I haven't had to have that excuse. I feel like since I
was like twelve, of like, I just needed to hit the same point.
I just I just need to go say if I can't, I can't
write. Yeah, I'll be there in like ten minutes. I there's no
pause. I care if I don't say I lose two hours. It's only
two hours right now. It's getting at anytime. I'm alive. You need
to come right now. It's like walking over holding a controller, like making
my way over the kid in the car with us or not? Are you?
Are you still there? You? Okay? Okay, now I'm really
coming anyway. Don't just shot on the floor. Okay, that wasn't the
dog. I gotta go. Uh Dave, what's up? Would you play
in the last two years? No, so exactly in the uh uh,
specifically to that point. I've been playing a lot of Heartstone because it's the
perfect you know, like seven minute game. You asked me this, I
know, but they don't listen to that podcast. What's a hearthstone? Uh?
Heart What is a hearthstone? Hearth is a is a fire and yeah.
Home is where the hearth is. Yeah, and then where's the home.
It's inside the home at home is where the hearth is. Yeah.
Uh So I've been playing that, which has been fun. You can take
that one Blizzard if you want. That's free. I play a little bit
of it. I really enjoyed. I like it a lot. I guys
like CCGs. I'm you know, guys down I like CGS. The collectible
parts really damaging for people with issues like me, so I don't play those
games. But this one's not so bad. I feel like you get I
think that and and Soul Forge have have kind of done that really well,
and that you don't need to. It's like Magic where you gotta buy everything
and to be good. It's sort of integrated into you. Definitely, they're
auto matching stuff is pretty good. The Arena concept is super smart. What's
that? Explain to me what this is? So the Arena is a card
game in the vein of Magic. Yeah, and it's from Blizzard, so
it's all World Warcraft themed and the basis of it or hey, it's a
collectible card game and it's free. It's free right now. It's an open
beta. Uh you can. It's got some micro transactions in there so that
you buy packs if you want, but there's nothing stopping you from They'll give
you quests each day, so you always get like three new quests and then
you can complete those. It doesn't really take very long to complete them,
probably about a half hour and then me an example of a quest. Quests
will be like win three games as a paladin or destroy forty millions, so
like they're all super achievable things that you can do just three like objectives,
and most of the time you're completing the quest just as you're normally playing,
even if you're not specifically trying to complete a quest. And then that basically
awards you a money system, and that money system can then be used to
buy packs which will give you new cards, or you can use it to
enter the arena. And what is the arena. The arena is a blind
you know, it's like a blind buy in, so you'll pay your money.
They'll then give you thirty sets of three cards. Each. You pick
one of those three cards because it's out of all the cards you own.
No, it's random, which is why it's great because everybody has the same
random cards. Wait, there's no collectible bullshit exactly. Oh that's wait,
I'm sorry, I lost the thread. Here. I go to the arena
and there are thirty sets of they give you. The first thing they'll do
is they just show you three cards. They say, here's the cards.
They'll say, here are three cards which one of these three do you want?
It's a fate, you know, what's the value of it? I
want you can see all three of them the over exactly, and then you
do that twenty nine more times and you have a stake. Uh, not
very long. Why would you alternate with the other person. No, you're
only doing it for yourself. So they so it's not like they pick one
and you pick one, and then you pick one and they pick one exactly.
You're just doing this and then you keep playing in the arena with that
set of cards until you lose three times. And does everybody have the same
sets of three to choose from when they're in the arena at the same time.
Uh, they went through the same process that you did. They may
have picked a different class, right, Uh, and they obviously pick different
cards than you did. So it makes it hard because you know, like
most collectible card games, the cards can go together well as a theme.
Right. You have Murlock Rush decks, which are like if you put all
your Mrlocks together, you you know, they kind of have a fast attack
and synergize. So yeah, exactly, Verticals the blind the blind deck then
makes it hard to do that kind of stuff, and it makes it so
they've sort of equalized the collectible side of it, which makes it there's no
way to bring your stuff into this correct, What is your money getting you?
Just entrance into the area just gets you entrance into the arena for three
till you lose three times depending upon how many times you win before you've lost
those three times, uh nets you a better prize Like all card or the
prizes are usually crafting material more actual money that you could then go in against
the arena and card packs cool and the card packs could be you know,
they tend to be better card packs, you know, the more you've won.
That sounds really interesting if you if you bounce out immediately, if I
lose three consecutive matches, will the prize pretty much be less than the value
that I would have gotten than using that money to buy it's a hundred gold
or whatever to just buy a pack. It's one hundred and fifty gold to
get in the arena, got it? You will automatically get a pack out
of probably pretty sure poopy. So you always it's always in your best interest,
at least from what I've seen, to play the arena and do it
interesting. Can you leave an arena, run and come back. Yes,
okay, so get out yep, and so it'll be you just go back
to the arena and it's like you lost one time, previously you won seven
times. Keep playing till you lose. That's pretty smart and it's interesting that
what uh, what was I gonna ask? Like, what's the value of
gold? Like what is one hundred and fifty gold? It's like like there's
no, you don't buy gold, you just it's you can buy packs,
okay, where you could buy an entrance into the arena if I were to,
if I would ask you what is the real world currency? Dollars for
one hundred and yeah, two dollars. So it's like a couple bucks to
play gets you into the arena, gets you into the arena, or you
could just play for thirty minutes and get into the arena. And he's saying,
my time is not thirty minutes of my time is not worth so you
end up playing and it's totally like it's not cheesy at all. It seems
like a really smart system. Down timers. They've count down timers, yeah
to play yeah, like eachan yes, yeah, okay, they have they
have a pretty clever mechanic too with it. The weird things that they have
are you can't chat with the other player. That's nice for the best they
learned that one. Right click your character and it brings up six emotes like
what uh like, well played? Is your character saying yeah nice? Or
uh that was a mistake? Nice? You just span that one constantly really
getting at his head. Yeah, so greetings you know all that? Anybody
ever do them? Yeah? You do it like when you see a guy
do a really clever move, You'll be like, wells uh do you can
you buy new ones? Uh? That seems like something they would find new
greeting stone. Yet okay, none of that stuff. The crafting really only
gets you. Like you can disenchant your cards, like destroy cards to make
other cards. Uh. And you can also just upgrade your cards to be
the like tin foil version of a card. But nothing, it just looks
it's ten. Yeah, so uh can you Uh? How is it like
battlenet? How do you find your friends? Your friends are on there?
You can put as part of the options to like automatically overwrite the automatching system
so that you play your friends, which you may not want to do because
they could be a lot better than you. Do you want to tell people
how to find you? Or do you want to keep that a secret until
you show up and stomp them. I'm on, I'm on battle Mat Okay,
it's I want to go play you. I want to go figure out.
Yeah you can, you can play me. Yeah, It's it's fun.
Donna Dona iOS devices now mostly I apparently I don't think it's on THEOS.
You can definitely tell that it's a well it's on Mac as well well,
but I mean it's on the computers they set up front that it would
be coming die Yeah, and it's a perfect game probably for like anentially Yeah,
I thought when we looked at it in the office we were doing when
they first announced the game, that's what it was coming to mobile. I
shouldn't know. It's good. I've played a couple of those games, like
I played Scrolls for a bit, which was like mojongs or their their game,
and this one, this one's super polished and it looked like even when
we saw it. I mean, I don't know if the beta has changed.
Must when we looked at it months ago with Rory uh like nice animations,
nice chest opening, animation and if you've never played a car game,
because it's not like I'm a huge car game player. Yeah, run it's
super easy. They walk you through it in the beginning. And because the
like kind of math and stuff in the game is you know, automated through
the system, it's it works out. I'm it's especially for a dad.
You just play that game like five It's five minutes a game, so I
can jump in and then jump out. That's what I've been playing watching Matt
play anything that was fun. And yeah, and then I bought I haven't
played yet, but I bought Mike mad Might and Magic ten the new one,
so Mike Magic games can go all over the place. What what Might
magic are we getting with my Magic ten? Uh? Well, what do
you mean? This is their old style like a first person uh party Bass
games, which if you ever play through game, Yes, this is the
old style like nineties kind of gold boxy, well not gold boxy, but
that kind of era of games. Uh the uh what's the other style of
games? The Wizardry games or another ones that are like it. It looks
like a basic updated version of it that seems real nice. Does look like
they you know, it's a lower price. I think they plan to make
a lot of money off DLC stuff and that's how they planned to keep it
going. But who's putting those out? You know, I can't remember who
did it. I just I was waiting for it to come out. Everybody
was saying like, ah, you know, it's not there yet, so
I figure out. You know, what was awesome that Might Magic one,
the weird puzzle game that came out on the on Xbox Live. What the
heck was the name of that, Brad? It was awesome Clash of Heroes.
Yeah, that was a sick yeah game man, Yeah, it was
a good game. It was like a puzzle kind of like weird came a
weird puzzle battle or kind of weird match up. Anyway, Might Magic ten?
Have you played the rest of them? Caught up? I played like
six and seven back in the days. I mean, the fun parts with
those games is really there. Super tactic based. It's almost like playing you
know, your traditional like Infinity Engine style game, except everybody's there, so
you'll normally deal with like positioning and things. Uh. The recent game that
would be similar to it is what was the Real Time one that was the
indie devs. Oh uh you played it. I know you played it,
the dungeon car with the puzzle. Yeah, grim rocks think it was great.
Yeah, so similar style games, except uh, these games are not
real time. It's not like but they move in that same jaunted sure like
you hit forward, you move forward. Have you seen one step? Have
you seen a paper? Was a paper sorcerware and brand, Yeah, which
is basically like that Legend of grim Rock, kind of Pools of Radiance Bard's
tale style but all black and white. Kind of interesting. I saw like
the Legend of grim Rock. Guys are doing like a weird series, serious
video series. I mean they're they're making a sequel to the game. Yeah,
no, I know that too. They've been working on it for a
while. Yeah. Game was was You should play that game? And yeah,
it was good. It's fun. Reminded me a lot of what was
the what was the There was a like FMV kind of dungeon crawl like mid
nineties. Yeah, yeah, exactly, board with Kirk Cameron. Uh.
Oh hell. It had a little green Yoda looking guy that popped up when
you when you were about to get killed by monsters that appeared in the middle
of nowhere, but it was all dungeon. It was a kind of game
that you like, get out a pad of paper and and like you need
graph paper to make a map before. I wish I can remember what it's
called. Is a CD game. Let's I'll be playing this week? Anything
else going on? Woodworking? Oh yeah, William, we need to just
start a woodworking podcast. Well let's talk to Will first, because it sounds
like Will may have been digging into some heavy wood. Uh also, yeah,
yeah, some real dig cherry. So Will what have you been up
to? Well? I think last time I was on when we talked about
Darksiders one, which I had just finished up. That's a good game.
It was great. Remember it's really good games. See the sun was a
real long time ago. And then then this was the week before dark Siders
two came out not so good. It turns out I was a little disappointed.
Oh no, no, I've been playing. I played a lot of
Blanky this week. Yeah, what are you playing on PC? So I
started out last when it came out on an Xbox, and I played a
fair amount on Xbox and got to the point that I could kind of regularly
get to the jungle and then started playing other stuff instead, because I mean,
I get past the mind get past the minds. So I played maybe
for a week. It's the first level. It's the first four levels,
thank you very much. Let's say it's the first world. First world.
Yeah. So I picked it back up again, and I can get back.
I can reliably get to the jungle. I've built a tunnel now.
Okay, yea so helped man has helped me out. I fulfilled all his
needs and now I can skip the minds and get to the jungle. And
you're playing on whatnot PC? Okay, yeah, the personal computer? Are
you doing the daily challenges? And the daily challenge is a strong hook for
me, Yeah, because I like the I like the like the way I
played Blanky. I'm competing against myself, right I want to I want to
get my daily challenge. I want to get past the minds. That's my
goal right now. If I get past the minds, I feel like I'm
doing pretty good. If I get past say, if I get to like
the fourth level of the jungle, I'm doing great. That's pretty good.
But then it's a real bummer because then he's like, I feel the chill
from the I'm like, oh, man, the entrance was just somewhere,
just right there, I wouldn't find out what tunnel Man wanted, and maybe
this time he would help me. A tunnel fucking tunnel man doesn't show up
on daily challenges. It's bullshit. Oh really, no, no tunnel Man
on daily challenges. I don't think it's challenge. So I've dabbled with daily
challenges a little bit, and that seems like a great mode for people who
already play a lot of Splunky. But if that's all you're ever gonna do,
it's kind of a bummer because it encourages you to ignore a lot of
major part of that game. Yeah, because tunnel Man to win the challenge,
you can't spend any money. It's a difficult enough game that I feel
like you should make your own challenge, like you should. You should.
It's like, like I said, it's like playing golf, like you're not
going out there. And if I'm playing golf with Tiger Woods, I'm playing
against my handicap, not against Tiger Woods. Play golf against Tiger Woods.
No, never, I'd be amazing. Well I am will spid So,
Yeah, I played played a fairmount of Bilunky. I like that. I
stream it sometimes if I'm up and it's not too late, because that's what
you do with Splunky apart. People find this fantastic Will Smith play and they
can just follow me on Twitter, right, you should tweet about it at
Will Smith on Twitter. And then I played, Uh, let's see my
wife and I've been playing a lot of like those kind of couch competitive games
like nit Hog, Samurai Gun and that couch Competitive Game. I like that
the CCG. Yeah, the CCG. Got it. That's not already taken
by something else. It seems familiar. I don't know why you disputed my
theory for Samurai Gun, which is that you and I are too old to
play against younger people. Drew. You're younger than us, right, yeah,
yeah, so if we can be Drew, then your theory is wrong.
You're saying a reaction time is like I played, I did a land
party in the woods. What Yeah, I took my corner. Didn't get
about you guys. This was a team building exercise. Last time we went
to the woods. I don't know. I think I was afraid we're gonna
lose that canoe. That's hey, we were we were good canoe driving.
We were fantastic, but I was playing a lot of the Samurai gun with
people that were still in their twenties. How did you how did you power
the things? It was in a cabin, It was still Internet and all
that kind of stuff powered. Yeah, kind of heathen and brought my my
giant and he ended my corn getting the hot toup together. No, what
did you get? It was just the three of you? Right, Yes,
what did you guys eat for the whole weekend? Because I brought a
bunch of assorted meats and then we put them over a fire. Well,
that's right, you're a big thriller man. Your company, your company sounds
much better than my company. Our retreat. They just go make a sit
on blow broken glass for like four hours. Yeah, I don't know.
Dave's company just sounds like a bunch of millennials. Yeah, fucking millennials.
But did then when I played that game, I was just I was getting
destroyed. I was getting destroyed to such a degree that I decided to just
play the game like to fuck with them, and I would just hide.
And because I was dying so many times that I would just I would hide
as a dead body maybe you need to be a little faster. I'm just
man. You got to anticipate stuff. You gotta look into the used to
be a competitive quake? Did you rocket Arena Player? And now ten Earth?
That's your bullshit. Any game that I can't like, said a CONFIG
two. I'm not I'm no good at But that's not a landpard because you're
just playing on your tower locally, right. We were doing that, but
then we were also playing other stuff. You played TFC Classic. We did
not play Team Fortress Classic. What else did you play? Uh? We
played to the wee hours in your cabin in the woods? Did we play?
We played a lot of Oh, what the hell's that? We were
just talking about that, trying to think of the game get a little well.
We played a lot of Monaco, which is great because I play that
game. It's just a wrecking ball. I just don't care who else is
playing that game. And then we were playing the what's the game where you
sit you unlock, don't shoot your pants? That's yeah, that's the game
where you don't shoot you unlock all the characters and the prowboy and yeah,
Risk of Rain, yeah is pretty good, which is a good fun game.
Will Smith. Yeah, you play what other collectible couch games do you
play? So Samurai gotten nit Hogg mostly right, those are two fantastics.
I didn't I realized I meant to back the Sports Friends Kickstarter and then I
didn't, So I feel like a bad person kind of. I want to
say, you can't right now. No, the pre orders are closed,
so I can't. So you can't pay your way into the I cannot pay
my way into the alpha's right now. But I'm I've gotten kind of weirdly
obsessed with like nit Hogg especially, game is great. Yes, Nit's fantastic.
How is how is Samurai going with two people? Uh? It's it
needs more people? Think we three is probably optimal. Four seems like like
when I played four at packs it was way too much shit going on.
Could have been because I've never played it before. But like two is two
becomes two is like it is like three dimensional nithog basically, so you end
up with it's kind of you know, who moves first usually ends up dying,
so it becomes who can wait the other person out? And it's it's
good. It's good. Like I've known my wife for a long time and
when we met. We used to play a lot of like sitting on the
couch playing ness and then sixty four games and those games have gone away?
Is it very long? Times? Thank you? You can beat Drew.
You walk him on my house and play. We played the original Mario Cars
probably new back then. Man. I want that game to have like just
moments where it stops the action of pauses it and then asks you, like
a random history question, so then I can like and then I can get
my win in. I'm like, I could use my brain, I can
use my Simy Carter's vice president. Yeah, exactly who did video kill?
I know this one can't be real history questions. It has to be like
MTV history. It just kills him and like some brutal, horrible way or
gives me a power up. Finish this sentence. Yeah, welcome to MTV
News. I'm Kurt, Yeah Loader, you got it and just skiing being
like I don't get it. So what Samantha Samantha Tath Tatha, who is
the host of Headbanger's Ball Freaking Ricky Rack. No, man, Matt Pinfield,
No, No, that was on a how are you? How are
you doing there? Drew Yo? MTV blanks. Yeah, they rap I
can't remember who hosted that. No MTVS raps was h lover and and uh
and and dre Yes not the doctor. Bill Delny is just like Man about
Town. He was on all their stuff. Man about Town put that on
a card. Man about Town, Yeah, many caramel Man about Town you're
kind of about well if anything else. Uh yeah, So you know,
I really love Dungeon Keeper. I have a lot of love for that game.
Yeah, And I went and against my better judgment, I downloaded the
iOS. Why Why Because EA has kind of a ship track record lately with
iOS games, like they've like the Plants Versus Zombies Two Things is still a
little sour. Even though they came back and made it a little bit better
after the release, I'm still a little bitter about that. So I opened
it up when I installed it, and and it's it's like it has Farmville
timers so energy. Yeah, well it's it's not energy. It's that when
you mind resources, you need to wait. It takes X number of minutes
to mine each resource. But it's not a it's a it's a macro level
of time, not a like here I'm sitting here playing the game for five
minutes I can hours hours probably, It's like it's like Tiny Tower style,
It's like this will be finished in twelve hours. Yeah, but there's a
lot more currency stuff going on with Tiny Tower and this. The upgrade tree
is fiendish. So in order to like, in order to unlock any dudes
beyond the first like three or four, you have to upgrade your dungeon heart,
which is the you know, the thing in the center of your dungeon
that you attack when you raid and stuff. And in order to upgrade that
beyond like level three, you have to have fifty thousand of something. But
in order to store fifty thousand of the thing that you need, you have
to upgrade three other things. And in order to upgrade those, you have
to upgrade two other things. Sound like you're having fun, fuck those guys,
how much? What's the best value? I haven't. I haven't.
Also, every every single thing on the UI has a plus next to it.
You can tap to increase it, and some of it upgrades. Some
of it is using the gem currency. The gem is the thing you buy
with money, I think, So you can use gems to buy gold or
stone, which are the two resources you mind, But it's it's a.
It's a. It makes me real sad because there's a really neat game buried
inside here. There's a thing where you can go raid your friends dungeons and
you can like attack their dungeons. Like there's a multiplayer component that could have
been fucking amazing. The I'm not gonna ever see that, I ever suggest
anybody else played this on Twitter. But white Hot rage about this game that
bad. Huh. It's people. I mean, that's like a beloved franchise,
you know, well, you know it's I think it's one of those
things. I'm not defending it. Don't go not defendingender, not any defense
dungeon Defender. This is Vinnie's talking about Dungeon Keeper on the iOS and saying
that I wonder if in a meeting it was like the only way this game
was gonna see the light of day. But then put a new ip on
it. Man. Yeah, like I'm not defending it. But yeah,
like why because they wouldn't have gotten you. Yeah, but I'm not ever
going to give them money. I'm so I was so angry about it at
one point I thought I might just never give them money again. Hey,
Like I still haven't bought Battlefield for Fuck those guys. I'm I'm yeah,
I'm you know, you're getting off the EA train, like it's a rain
of disappointment and heartache. Battlefield for I got no problems. You're gonna break
your annual Madden. It never crashed for you when that building came down.
Yeah's trash. It did crash in the first like two weeks. But you
know, I like the game. I thought those mechanics were super smart.
Nobody that it's a good game. It's just a fucking smoldering train wreck every
time I get ready to go. First month, like, if it worked,
I think everybody would be super happy with it. The first month I
thought it was that way. I think it's largely improved, and I bought.
I bought Need for Speed that came out with the with the new consoles,
you know, last year's Hot Pursuit or Most Wanted or whatever it is.
It's like all that EA. They took the stuff that was good about
the burnt Burnout Paradise. They're having a tough time. Yeah, like they
they they're bad at online is what I think it is. I think they
should just make single player stuff that's not connected to the internet like mass Effect.
Yeah, like, well, yeah, I would totally play more mass
Effect. That would be great. I got good news for you. Hey
what really? Yeah? Really? Wait you didn't know, I don't.
I don't. Yeah, they're making it. They're they're deep in the making
a new man is it multiplayer only they haven't said anything about what it is
because unfortunately it's just Shepherd playing Farmville over and over again, and so it
looks like you're going to be space. He just walked something in his or
hurt retirement just at the beginning of like you know, Mass Effect two just
has that, and in Farmville just shows up in the coffee sitting there and
he's actually in Origin mostly time messages. That's how he's got to beat the
Reapers man in a hot Farmville match. Hey guys, since to the update,
fifty five thousand roads still fucking suck. So uh so you know,
No, Will Smith does not give two thumbs up for dungeon Keeper on the
iOS. No, No, you can get the real dungeon Keeper from goog
dot com. That's good old game. Oh no, it is Goog.
It is no longer gone gas right, it's I was not it doesn't it's
hard to get running. Sorry, just real quick. Since you mentioned that
need for speed game, I thought I saw this headline today and it is
in fact true layoffs hit ghost games, oh un announced need for speed title
mothballed. Thanks, well so that's pobably gone. Yeah, thanks a lot,
So boy news travels fast for all those now life, thank you for
it looked really pretty Uh, will anything else going on? No, that's
it? I tell all right, Well it's world working. Yeah, let's
talk all right, talk about serious business. You know what's going on,
Who's who's building? What? What's on your bench? Let's talking about what's
on the bench? Will I am? I had a long, hard talk
with Steve Lynn at Packs about making Mame cabinets last year, and he convinced
me that was a bad idea to make a mame cabinet. Yeah. What
were his points? He said, it's you know, the spawn of Satan.
So Norman West are building one. But that's fine, that's cool.
They didn't have to talk with Steve. But I wanted to build a cabinet.
And and I got kind of into these couch competitive games, the CCGs,
so but they all use analog I like I originally thought that he would
be cool to build a cabinet that you can play these games with. Most
of the arcade sticks, yeah, are four way or eight way or maybe
octagonal, which isn't gonna I guess that's eight way binary. You're either moving
or not. Their digital pads, just like the deep pad on your on
your game pad, or their or their leaf switches or whatever whatever it is
they are, they are you're moving, yeah, right, or you're either
going or you're not. There's no moment slowly and there's no in betweens.
So I was talking to the idle thumbs guys a few weeks ago and we
were like, we had a dumb idea, and you know, one thing
led to the other. And then I ordered a bunch of joysticks from the
internet. Yeah uh, And I found someplace that makes analog, which I
think is incredible arcades sticks really, and they do it for evil Just to
be clear, they do it for mame cabinets. So you can have a
software configurable eight way, four way, two way, vertical, two way,
horizontal joystick, so it's yeah, or don't have to like turn restrictor
or something like that. It's a terrible just don't. Don't if you want
to, why are you railing against the main cast? Go with it.
If you're gonna bank a Maame cabinet, make a four way stick or an
eight way stick, or get one that's like mechanically configurable. But the ones
that are software, it's not gonna work. Well, it's gonna be an
that. It's gonna be a bad experience. You're gonna have a bad time.
And I need to have Like then I needed like different control panels,
and I gotta like take them all. We got put my track ball controlling
on my They gotta put my pac Man one on that's just four way,
and then I gotta put my jous one on. And that's so the same
people that make the analog stick make a four way eight way that has a
motor that moves the restrictor from four way mode to two. That's awesome.
Totally down with that. So you got this analog stick and have it as
it works because there is analog control in NID everything. Almost all these said
maybe Bari Bari ball has nihog won't let you use the deepado, you can't
use the dpad. I think you can move I don't remember you might be
able to You might be able to play anywhere I get with the deepend,
but I can't. I don't think it would work well. You can use
it. You can move slowly and you you have better air control with the
analog than digital, like you have speed. You can there's a because if
you think about it, when you play Nihog, if you run in do
the duck, then you'll cart wheel if you're going fast, and you roll
if you're going slow. All right, so you just roll all the time.
No, you can have without a sword. Maybe pick up we'll have
for science. So you you built a prototype. I built a prototype.
So I'm building a couple of prototypes. I got the first one done.
But I found this analog stick. It's really good. We'll post about it
on this untested So are you thinking about building a full stand up cabinet.
I want to build a full stand up cabinet. Don't think cocktail would really
work with that? Would No? I want four players. I want like
like a four NFL Blitz or super wide fucking big ass care putting in big
question. What's going in for the screen? Uh? Probably probably LCD,
a big old LCD. Yeah, I think like a big wide screen,
probably wide screen, Okay, I don't. I don't think it's a good
idea, like for me personally to have to marrow. We get carry a
twenty seven pounds RT around, so you probably make it pretty thin. Then
maybe I like the traditional form factor, but maybe it'll be I don't know.
I haven't. I don't have to be that deep. Haven't gotten the
cabinet. You do want some stability, though, because you're gonna slapping that
thing. So I'm talking on a little ap plywood, a little a little
I like a probably a half inch for the for the sides, maybe a
quarter inch with some lets over the top stuff mostly particle board, particle.
I'm gonna paint it the outside. I'm gonna see a apply with probably so
the inside will be the sea. And I think I'm gonna paint. I'm
not gonna stand up going with like like a beach veneer applywood on there.
You're gonna kind of cheap. No, I wouldn't make something that looks modern.
Ok what would a nice little birch beer? Yeah? God, what
a hipsterish thing to do? I like, I like, yeah. We
We talked to Tom Sacks a few months ago. For a thing. He's
an artist, and he said you should show your mistakes and show your work,
which, as a would ward, is that means if you fuck something
up, Oh yeah, that's fine, just leave it. We've be at
the website school. What if you if you like, need to put a
screw into something to hold in a place while the glue is drying, that's
fine, just leave the holder. Non buddy, shut up, there's any
more clamps. I built a outfeed table that goes off a swing. That's
pretty awesome. That's that's uh, to my table saw. But talk about
the mistakes I made. Uh, it's got you know, the table sauce
got wheels on the bottom that you can push down, so it actually pushes
the table saw up so you can move it around. The problem was I
did the measurement for how tall the table saw was while those were down,
and I built my entire outfeed table. Yeah it's so that doesn't work.
So I had to actually take the whole thing off and then take the perfect
table that I made, like really nice with nice frame around it, and
put the actual table on the table saw and cut two inches off of it.
If you had a sauce all you could have just done that without having
to take the whole thing apart. Now, but it's nice. How wide
is your oundfeed table? It's probably like the feet it's forty inches by thirty
six. I wish I lived in the suburbs. No, but it's but
it slides stand. That's the whole point. It's like it's two inches up
against the wall. Well, so so will in your in your garage?
Now? Yeah? Do you uh you have power tools? Uh? No?
Not really? Are you mostly handled like hand sauz? And now I
go to somebody else's shop. Although for this, yeah, I haven't made
any announcement. I haven't actually talked to the people yet, but I think
I'm gonna see if I can borrow time on a CNC router to do this,
to do what to do the to build the cabinets so that I don't
have to because we're probably gonna make multiples. You're like, this is a
stand up full size, stand up full size, So I get a big
router. There's a coll with that take to make one couple of places that
have ten ten foot by ten foot CNC routers in town that you can either
pay or maybe negotiate a trade or something for time on. So they'll they'll
go fast because they'll cut through a whole sheet at a time. Wow,
So you can probably, I mean I think I don't. I've never actually
used this before. I just watched other people use it, so I'm an
expert. I mean you're talking stock that's like seven feet tall, right,
yeah, probably six feet I think I think probably four by eight would be
my guests if I'm buying sheets, and then ye wait, what do you
design the cabinet? And if you go the same sketch up? Well,
although most had style, Yeah, if you don't need depth. So if
I can design, if I can get the cab designed to a way that
I don't need to like route out holes underneath to make room for buttons or
whatever, then it'll be an I should be able to put multiple stacks of
the wood. It fits like four inches long, so you could you could
just cut you know, four four sheets at a time. That's gonna go
real fast, right, Well, because the signs are the same also,
right, yeah, exactly, if both sides of the same, then you
can do two machines in four sheets supply wood. Yet the back I can
just I can cut myself. I'm not I can do that at tables.
I'm not worried about that. That's cool. So yeah, I'm gonna try
that. I don't know if it's gonna happen or not, and the inside
will probably just be a PC. Yeah, the inside. So we we've
been working. We've been doing a lot of steamo as stuff lately, just
kind of noodling that we're gonna shot a video tomorrow. Yeah, tell me
the there's not a whole lot of Linux games, it turns out. Yeah,
there's like three hundred my that I have, but that's in the weird
account. That's respectable. Yeah, that's not terrible. No, no,
I know, but I'm just saying that's all of them at But it's all
a lot of It's like it's all it's almost all stuff it's been in Humble
bunbles, is what it seems like. So tux Racer, No, no,
tux Racer, that's open source. But there's like all the Bastion you
want. Yeah, Quake. Yeah. I've been testing the streaming stuff too,
though, which is kind of Yeah, that's what I'm most interested in.
I was really good. Really, I can't I can't vouch for people's
home networks, but on our weird corporate network, and there may be some
mintogatting factors or something. But I watched Jeff at his desk the other day
try to stream Octo Dad from the PC down in the studio. Uh huh,
it's not good. So Norm had problems with Octo Dad specifically, Like
there's a lot of game specific bugs, like like some games, like especially
fast frame rate games like Injustice and nit Hog. If you try to stream
either of those, then you end up playing it like half speed because it's
a sixty frame per second game. Eventually the speed went way down. But
also just even in the menus, there was just a huge amount of latency.
Yeah, so on my home network, which is a gigabit ethernet,
it's it's pretty good for things that are controller based, like like single player
games like Saints Row the Fourth a BioShock Infinite like I went through a bunch
of like last year's Triple A titles and that it works great. Meat Boy
I could play, but only early levels when you got far enough into meat
Boy that like defending Yeah, like that level that Brad played you. I
would never try. I would never try Splunky Daily Challenge. With the streaming,
there's just just enough latency. Maybe I haven't tried that yet. That's
something I don't have a lot of racing games. Would you say it is
completely dependent on your network. Yeah, like wireless, you're gonna have to
turn the So I'm streaming at TENNYP. I think unlimited band with is what
I haven't said to and I don't. I don't think you can control frame
rate yet. But yeah, like the stuff I'm streaming is fine. I
would never play anything competitive. I would never play anything that's like like timing
super timing intensive. But if you just want to go shoot some dudes in
Saints Row, it's pretty good. And it gets lets you play stuff that's
never going to be on or won't be on Linux for the foreseeable future in
the living room without having to run the thirty foot h yeah or put a
lot. So I read your article. There's a ride up on test that
it also takes over the host machine, right, yeah, so the so
it's not like you can play one game on your main computer and one play
one game there. It'll show up on your monitor like a normal one and
the Steambox capture sound. So you so like the sound gets piped out of
the living room. Usually doesn't come out of the speakers attached to your PC.
But sometimes it's a little buggy, as if it's playing the game.
Yeah, as if it's playing the game. So like, if you can
make it seem like the computer's remote viewing stuff, it's real weird. What
were you playing with? Like? What was your control? So I hooked
up different Sony controllers. I tried both the PS four and the PS three.
There was some configuration weirdness with the PS four. PS three seemed to
work okay, but mostly I just plug in one of those Xbox wireless dongles
and use Xbox controllers. Yeah, they just plugs in it just to text
the Xbox controllers. It just knows what it is and everything works. Yeah,
you get this free. Get this. It's a free download. I
am running it, so we're gonna have a video up later this week.
The machine I built is an Intel nukebox, So it's uh Intel they call
it the next unit of computing is what nuke stands for. And you see,
but it's like about the size of an Apple. It's a little bigger
than an Apple TV and smaller than like, uh, I don't know.
It's smaller than a cigar box, like a car, Yeah, like a
car. It's like a dump truck. Yeah, yeah, smaller than a
truck. But it's it's basically a motherboard with a CPU soldered on. It
has all the cooling and stuff built in, and then you add either a
hard driver and MS added drive, depending on which one you I yea,
which are you know? I'm sad of those little card looking things, and
you add a wireless card if you need that, and then so it's like
two hundred and seventy five bucks for the box, which is kind of expensive,
but it's like a it's a I five, so it's not it's not
a it's a has well based I five, so it's not a shitty CPO
it has. It has good enough integrated graphics to play pretty much anything that
was available native, so bashion and all that stuff works great. Thomas was
alone when it worked, worked indie games, indie games, and then enough
to decode the video. The video is no problem. Yeah. Did you
try any like source engine stuff on there? I don't think I have yet.
I know, probably the most demanding stuff on Linux that I can think
of, yeah. I want to say metros on there too, but I
could be wrong. I think they have a Linux version of Metric, but
maybe not. Have you gotten your hands on and any of the Steam controllers
stuff to have, Yeah, we we did. We've spent a little bit
of time with it at CS. Can you talk about it, Yeah,
but I mean I don't think I have anything like, it's nothing new to
add, it's yeah. I mean I feel like you're not gonna know if
that things any good until you sit down and play shitload of games with it.
And we had maybe fifteen minutes with Portal one, which wasn't great.
But the haptic feedback is on the so those big circles the controller touchpad things
have haptic feedback. So as you get it's not like you just feel a
ring around the edge or something when you get close to the edge. It
actually pulses as faster as you get further away from the center, so you
have real constant feedback about about like where your thumbs distracting or I didn't find
it distracting. I The thing that annoyed me more than anything on is that
on the movement stick, you you like, you can't just tap and know
exactly where the center is. So when you were trying to do a jumping
puzzle in portal, which is really bad experience with the game pad to begin
with, Like you you if you were you could never take your thumb off,
if you were someplace that moving in any direction was going to kill you.
You have to stay relative to where you were, because it stays relative
to where. Yeah, So like it's I mean, they're working on it.
I remain cautiously optimistic, but I don't have any you know, we're
gonna have to when they come out, we'll get them and we'll spend a
sht load of time with them like everybody else will, and and you're gonna
have to make your own opinion. I'm I mean, maybe I'll be able
to play seven five in the living room, but I don't think so,
because I think the UI is still going to be really small and shitty.
So probably. Yeah. Uh, that's why would working project Dave Snyder?
What you got on the bench? How's your outfeed table? Welcome to the
actually work? Why do you need it? Well, that's what's what's good
past the outfeed table. Why do you need a two foot out of feed
to? Yeah, I usually just let the board and flop off the what
do you what do you table? That's fine? Right, Well, because
you got when you do rip cuts. I hear you've got a really long
piece. Well, what are you doing well? I made a toy chest.
Nice, that was that was the start, but a whole way more
expensive tools to make a like one hundred and fifty dollars to chest. But
it's not about it's not about that. Yeah, it's like now you can
make it as many toy tests as you want. I said you were doing
pocket screws. It was great. I did all that. But that's yeah,
but that's easy. That's like you buy your jig for your pocket.
It's not fine woodworking. Now I've graduated now doing like dovetails. Wow by
hand. Yeah, I don't give a shit. I I will buy the
thing that helps me naked east. So are you doing it with your router?
Yeah, I've got a router. I made a router table. Put
that attachment onto my Yeah. I've gone with your brand. I've gone deep
like you're a paramedic guy. No, I buy whatever whatever. You all
kind of mixed stuff. Okay, So do you have all? Right,
I've got a rigid table, so which is nice? And then I got
a rigid table. So just talking about this, what uh what is your
air filtration system? Uh? That's bad and in fact, I should not
buy from that bad anymore. I had noticed that shit. I was just
using like a shot back. Yeah, but then I started noticing. I
was like, I think I'm getting a cold. Why do I keep having
a cold. It's because you gotta wear masks or when you watching the videos
online of like, hey, I'm gonna look up this thing. I just
want to see how you do this cut. And guys have like hazmat suits
on with ventilation systems and fans above their head and they're like bo and then
take it off and oh yeah, I just had to do a little cut
on this thing, and I'm gonna do it again, so don't mind the
noise, but I'm gonna put on my Cyclone air filtration system. Like Jesus
I my dad never had that in his garage. But the weird thing for
me is it's strangely like comforting. I feel it's no it's a natural switch
to me to do the all the measurement and cutting stuff for woodworking. After
doing web do you guys shop and sketch up or anything. Do you like
build plans with a tool or do you just draw? I draw all the
stuff, and sometimes I end up where I make those dumb mistakes. But
it's been fun. The finishing stuff's been probably harder to me than the spray
finish finishing his way fun said, you already had a spray gun, didn't
you, from I have a spray gun. Yeah, because before I gotten
into this, I was taking old furniture that I bought at auction, Yeah,
and then just refinishing it, uh to make it nice. So we
took the next logical step. It's like I want to build, you know,
my next one will probably be like a nice coffee table. You guys
are just waiting until your dad. It's just something triggers and you're like,
yeah, we should go to the home depot, you know what. Totally,
But but the home depot is not where you don't go to the don't
go there by screws. Yeah, we should potato, we should really go
why we're just going to the park. But it's also weird because like how
old that hobby is, Like it's for old men. Yeah, So I
now get like seven catalogs at my house because that's how they sell. Or
you gotta go to like a swap. Yeah, I gotta go get some
tools, gotta go to the swap. Look at these Stanley planers. I
could just fix them up if I have you Have you been to Beef?
No, you should go to McBeth. Beeth is the good hardwood place in
San Francisco where it's set in East Bay or something. No, no,
no, it's down It's uh, it's right at the one on one two
eighty split south of the south of San Francisco. It's it's like north.
It's in South San Francisco, but not the city South San Francisco, the
south part of San Francisco, the city. I definitely took like an hour
and a half trip to go to the hardwood place, and they were They're
pretty awesome. Beat's great. It might have been it might have been the
one. I love going into those places because you go into those there and
you're like, hey, I'm just starting out. I don't really know what
I'm doing. Yeah, but here's what I want to do, and I
here's how I think I should do it. And then then like three dudes
will come over and they're like, Oh, you should do that, you
should do this, you should buy he Born Freedom sherry. They're usually pretty
good. They're like, yeah, you just use plywood for that. You
don't need to buy expensive stuff. This is a plywood video, or they
use the expensive stuff. They've got all the same, they all make the
same joke. When you've got your kid with you, like going through the
hardware store, they're like, why did you bring your boss? Yeah,
when I went to it was actually kind of a bum when I went to
the hardwood place with Max. Uh. There was like the forklift and everything
around, and he like looks at Max and he looks at the forklift and
he's like, man, if this for fifteen years ago, we'd be riding
around on the forklift, oh manmore. And I was like, Oh,
that's such a bummer. They don't let you ride the forklift with your kid
anymore. I guess not. It's like kind of bumms like different times.
Yeah, at different times, he was kind of bummed. I used to
get to drive the front endloader and stuff. We'd go to construction sites,
but they don't do that anymore. Let me shoot him down, So but
he what's on your bench, I am. I am building this jewelry box.
I went in. I should have done what Dave did, but I
so I don't have room for power tools. And frankly, I am myself
too dangerous to be around a power tool. Like the tools not dangerous.
I'm an idiot. I was sharing will before. I've got cuts in my
hand for my hand tools. So I'm doing it hand tools. And then
I think I mentioned this before. When I was starting to get in to
it, Everybody's like, go my dad, which so missus. My dad
said it. I ignored it, and then everything else was like, go
buy pine and build something. I was like, fuck that non bon retto,
motherfucker. Really Jesus dude, I'm diving in. So I've been working
on that. It's just really hard to work, right, It's like everything.
I'm like, boy, when I watched their videos and they're using these
tools, it's like knife through hot butter. When I go at it,
it's like marble, uh and everything tears out and it's horrible. But I
finally have a man a power persevered. I'm on second half of that jewelry
box. It took me about a month and a half to do the first
set of dovetails by hand. Jesus, I finished them. Well, this
is a month and a half on my dad time, right, so like
four every three weeks, so about four hours. And then it took me
last weekend from start to finish. I did all four corners of dovetails on
the other one one weekend. I was so proud of. My wife could
not understand why I kept walking out with this box and like she just was
like that's great, and I was like just walking around this frame, this
Marcus and a box to be like no, no, look, just like
I get a tweetie like getting in your chair stroking the box, kind of
like showing she was on the phone, like I had some problems at home
with like her mom and stuff, and I'm like shoving, like slowly moving
the box, but like look at what I made, mom, Look look
what I made. And then you then you start saying the worst line ever
that you get from being an amateur hobbyist. We're like she's like, oh,
yeah, you know, we could really I could make that. Yeah,
well I can make that, and then she's like you know, and
then you're sitting there and you're like just like being sixty dollars to buy it
your consumers culture. She has said, I trust you to make that call,
because I've said it so many times with this boy where it's just like,
you know, so, you know, if we were to get a
house and stuff, like you know what if we had like a nice new
chest of drawers and a bed. If he made a new bed for Max,
it's like, would you would you let him sleep in it? She's
like, I trust you to make that. I said to Nicole, not
just yesterday, maybe I could make a baby gate there you go for the
steps lutton for puny. Yeah, because that's what I want, is to
make something that I would make. Yeah, and yeah, sure. The
fear with this has always you end up with like the Homer Simpson version of
the thing, right, like the the your tongue sticking out and you're having
your thumb lined up there and you're, well, so making this jewelry box.
It's she designed it, which was awesome. It's uh, it was,
it's it's actually been really great. Like I jumped in way too deep,
but I finally feel like I'm getting a great excuse to buy new tools.
No, I really think I'm getting better. But having made the thing
out of red oak. My dad did a lot of woodworking when I was
younger, and so I kind of knew about it. But he was definitely
a power tool guy, and like now he's getting actually more into hand tools.
I did not realize how dense and heavy this was gonna be. And
now it's like the eighty pound jewelry box that is made of solid oak.
I didn't realize what it uh, you know, it's probably like a foot
so it stands vertically and then it kind of ope swings open, like two
sides open up, the kind of like the room. Yeah, what do
you put in there? Your Italian horns? Yeah? Change, Yeah,
there's gold. Change from the bottom. The crosses are a little longer.
Well, she wants to like hang her necklaces from it and like have bracelets
and stuff hanging up. But she I was like when I showed it,
the first one I gave it to and she was like, Jesus, but
this is like eight pounds. So I was like, it's red oak,
it's it's it'll last a lifetime. Did you put velvet? I think we're
gonna put some velvet or felt or something on the bottom. We're not there
yet, but you can see if you follow the corners. I should have
numbered them from beginning to end. You can see the worst dovetails down to
where I am now. You can see my aggression over time. That's kind
of like always starting the back. Yeah, that's your tool organization. It's
shitty. They're on my jazz cabinet, like you know, like half of
my time is half of Well, they're all hand tools, right, so
I organize them. I put them all nice, but I don't have a
lot of room. You have some of those rolly things, like the things
you slide into and then you roll them all out a tool roll, yeah,
like a leather tool roll for some of them. But like half my
time since it's hand tool stuff. I'll work for a day and then I
got a oil everything and put it back and make sure Max can't get to
it. And then the next day is like sharpening everything again because I'm working
because I'm an idiot and working on like a super dense wood and everything gets
dull. So it's slow going. But like I'm learning a lot and I
think it's super fun. So I think the hand tools are are I mean,
okay, it's hard to cut off your finger with a like a handsall
you stop. You really, you're really gonna work at it, but you
know you can slice yourself. Chisels they're dangerous as hell. They are super
They're a razor sharp and you just never put your hand on the receiving Endea.
Do you have a good bench face? I have. You should get
a bench. I've got a jazz machine and I'm scare foot put get it.
You need to get a Jauss machine. Vice. That's a bench.
Vice. I've got one of those like workmates that they those like pop up
kind of contractor tables. Yeah, that collapsible. You know, it's not
great, but it does have a has a really shitty vice. The big
challenge for me is that I have access to advice from people who are at
a dramatically higher skill level than me. Oh yeah, that would that would
just make me not do it. Well, no, no it's not.
It's not because the problem is, like if you ask Adam something, he
has years of advice, years of experience making things as quickly as possible for
film production. Yeah, so he's his answer to everything is just use some
lu on. Put some lu on in there. What luan is a composite
material that is incredibly inexpensive, but you can cut it like wood. So
like, if you want to make bendable plywood furniture, you can get flexible
luan and then just put veneers on the outside call it a day. But
you are looking for more handcraft, No, I actually have turned the corner
from into just making it. I want to make. I want to make
stuff that is uh much more modern than handcrafted. Yeah yeah, No,
the mine and my stuff right now is right angle city. Yeah, I
think right angles. I Well, so I did pay which came out awesome.
They turned out really did you see him? Okay? Actually no,
I saw the real thing. Well maybe anyway, I was like, as
I was building those, I wasn't sure if they were going to work,
Like, I wasn't sure if they were going to be strong enough to support
the weight of themselves without like some piece collapsing or one of those right angles
falling. And like once that's lasted a year now Yeah, so I feel
like through the woods blue is strong, glue is crazy strong strong. Well
I did, I did biscuits for that. So do you have a biscuit
A biscuit cutter? Lingo man no, I know we're all joint. Half
of the half of the appeal of this hobby is just spitting the jargon,
isn't it's a whole thing. I want to talk about your butt joints in
your tannions and your datos and your CRUs And do you have a Japanese hand
saw pulse of No, get one of those. I have. I have
a flush saw which is similar. Is it like cut cur Yeah? Yeah,
real small curf cuts on the pool, not on the push. Yeah,
pull is that's what Japanese hands on. So I've got one of these.
So it's bendable so you can cut the flush dowels uff that are great.
Yeah, there's a lot of awesome curf. That's a great word.
It's a good one. That curf is the thing that is left when you
go through with the saw, right, it's the whole. It's the width
it gets lost. So like if you were kind of way through a piece
of wood and then pull it up, that would be the curf. The
curf is the thickness of the cut. It's yours. Yeah, right,
when you if you want to cut on one side or the other of the
line, because when you cut on the line. You using one board,
you're cutting a board, and you're you're, you know, like breaking down
a four by eight sheet, apply wood into nine inch thick pieces, mentioning
your stock. Yeah, like if you if I had fund that up,
it could have cost four hundred dollars, but if I did it right,
it cost one hundred and sixty. So I love that you're taking all the
skill and then you made a tetris shelf. Yeah, and now you're building
in our cake cabinet. So it at least stays like the main hobby.
Well the next so the next thing is for me is probably like real furniture.
I'm gonna have to Like the IKEA crib is going to be out growing
in the next year or so. Yeah, that was great, it's the
best. I gotta do a post all the kids stuff. But yeah,
I need to make a bed. I think I think I'm gonna make a
bed. Would you trust yourself to make a bed? The tetriselves lasted so
far, so yeah, why not put those on their side? Yeah,
put the mattress on. You guys are gonna get into wood working too.
It's fantastic. You try to do them every month. I hear there you
go. I uh did a little growing up. I seem to remember a
lot. It's probably just like school projects. And I built some picnic tables
for my Eagle Scout project. It's probably the last salt treating I did.
What's that you salt treat for that? I don't know what that is.
That's a salt treat. Salt treat is lumber that you treat with chemicals to
make it resistant to woods and and fungus. I thought that's called no pressure
treated. In old days we call it. This is a regional dialect thing
the South, we call it salt treat. Yeah, pressure treated where it
doesn't it doesn't. You just salt that wood keeps talking. Yeah, sliced
pork where I'm from. Thank you very much. Brad. You're gonna you're
gonna get all my middle aged and my preferred use for wood is to split
it and then burn it. There you go. I do that. I
like. I like doing that when I'm back homing. But that's about it.
Actually, I don't even split it. Usually you just put the logs
on, just like the slow bird might. Ye. Yeah, my parents
have an incredible wood stove spare of the air many did you play any video
games? Uh? So, I turn a decent amount of time doing that
stuff in the garage, but I did. Uh, I've been playing Spunking
on the Pew the Vita. I do that too. Are we we should
be friends? We should be friends. If we're not, because it justsations.
I had like four I am notice something like slow down in the frame
rate when I got to the ice caves on the veto off. Yet every
time every time I make it to the ice caves, I gonna listle down,
which was a little weird. I know that. I know the original
developers didn't do that port, so I don't know if that has anything.
It was weird because I never thought that game would be like too demanding for
like a Vita. But maybe I'm crazy. I played tomorrow Dark Souls is
kind of wrapping that up. I think I've gotten everything I want to get
out of it. This is my second time through and I was just looking
for some stories. Do you play in the PC this time? Or yeah?
This was this was on the piece. Is it less frame rate on
the PC if you install the DS fix? Yeah, okay for sure,
So d d S fix on the locks the frame rate, but like you
go through Blacktown and it doesn't drop down to yeah, I'm in black Town
now. I mean there's actually a couple of spots. It's like with the
DS fix stuff. It's been like a rock solid sixty for me right out
right up until black Town, and there are definitely a few camera angles you
can get where it's like as Yeah, there were some of those boss fights,
just just like some of those boss fights got hard specifically because of the
frame rate on that. It's it's it's fine for me on the PC.
Yeah, really nice. I played some of that. We have a quick
look up. But you're talking about Dungeon Keeper. I played Mighty Quest for
Epic Loot, which is going to be it seems like a free to play
game. It's available on early Access on Steam now by you be Soft,
and it's very similar to build a dungeon to have other people run it and
you go out and you run dungeons. But it has a lot of those
free to play mechanics in it as well. But it's a cartoony style and
I like it. I like the way it looks. But otherwise on the
weekend, actually not too much, just some stuff I've been playing around here
for work. You and I both played a little bit of the Sun at
Night. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and that is a quick look up
now. Yeah, that's a wacky one. Yeah. Is it about the
sun being up at nighttime? No? I think the Sun at night has
probably got to be some kind of like this, Dave is a alternate history
where the Soviet space dog like a comes back down to find Earth ruined by
that's stops. Not only that the dog, the dog and the course of
returning to Earth. The dog becomes a cyborg and learns how to talk,
or at least he's wearing some power armor. Done. Is it made by
and the dog is an Estonian developers. It seems it seems to have been
written by native English speakers. But it's a lot of there are a lot
of dialogue trees story so it's like you left, It's like Fallout but with
you play like a dog side scrolling shooter though that's the Yeah, it's kind
of arid of the it's weird. Of the conspiracy theories that exists, that's
the only one that I can kind of like, somewhe get behind is still
alive. Know that that somebody died in space. Oh yes, before we
got there, Like I was thinking there was a there was a pre Eori
gigar and yeah, oh yeah, but yeah before before they got up.
Somebody's killed a lot of dudes over the period that like we would know if
the Russian facts about the two Italian brothers who had a Ham radio and picked
up a cosmonaut trying to contact Moscow before I think it was before. It
wasn't major Tom, you know, it might be confusing that with another story
that I think Mario brothers, that Italian brother they were in a pipe,
there was a there was a wasn't a sound. I don't worry about it.
Let's go get some mushrooms. They are there fast. There was that
crazy there was. There was one rushed space flight where I can't remember what
it was that happened, but like you know, one re entry like the
the heat of reentry creates the plasma around craft that disrupts radio communications and stuff,
and somehow the guy like basically like fried on the way down because he
wasn't able to communicate. That's the one. The other one I was going
to mention he knew going up that that was gonna happen because he lost some
of his heat. Shill no launched. He's like, this is but he
needed to do it for like political reasons because like when was this This is
during this Cold War? I think right after Gagarian? Yeah, it was
it was early, very specific timing there. Yes, I swear Free Love
was probably still cooking on two. Might have been pre Free Love. You
guys saw that people think that the Atlanta snow is because of chem trails.
Right, wait, the Atlanta snow. It snowed in Atlanta last week and
the fucking end of times down there, is it because of chem trails?
They thought it was because of chem trails because that snows are set burns dirty.
The snow burns dirty. It turns out they were just using but change,
which is a dirty burning fuel and makes everything black dirty. You put
a lighter like a bit underneath the snowball. They were saying. They were
like, it turns black. It's kem trailing yea, the snow, the
fucking it's it's fucking Obama man. Well, because they've been seating a luminum
Sah and Obama okay, are seating aluminum into the clouds right to make it
snow in Atlanta, get you sick so they can use it healthcare. Got
it care in the NSA and snowden fucker. Yeah, making the snow in
Atlanta with aluminum in the time and it's not a oh my god, in
make sure you get shut down the roads you can't get clear. They've made
Luigia doctor. Tell me about the dog. Tell me more about this dog.
It's like alternate history game. Because I have it does sound interesting.
Here's here's the best part I read on our wiki for that game, that
this developer is going to make two other separate games that are other alternate histories
of like you guys have a wiki. I always wanted one of those.
Stay. I'm working on it the office. I'm finally working on it.
That's that's the rent. Everybody. Everybody can have one ound to everybody.
What's the name of that game? The Sun at Night? Sun at Night?
Is it on Steamer? Don't have to buy somebody's else. H It's
it's on Steam, green Light. I think it's for sale on goog dot
com, gone and some Humble stuff. Okay, maybe de surah. Let's
do news news and here, uh, let's do some news music. We'll
do this. Got gorking devils, Bruce. He said, it's not advice,
but to you to drink the devils is not adv to you. Live
right now. A special treat for you guys who's here. Patrick Kleppick,
the newsman, Shytown's own dog Chicago. That is what I know. Keep
getting ready for him, big peck clippics. It's coming at you. That's
gross back. Say hi to shot Town. I don't want to say hi
to that either. He is a nice dog. He's got a nice dog.
Patrick Cleippick, Hi, Patrick, My dog doesn't like the cold.
Oh yeah, you do. You have to get a jacket. Uh.
The jacket's not really the thing. It's the boots, which I was I
am anti dog clothing. I think that you know, it's degrading, it's
degrading. But so then when we moved here and it got uh negative forty
she's during one week with a wind chill, and I would take my dog
out and she would just sit down and I'd be like, god damn it,
Like yeah, it's dog is just being she's just acclimating. Uh.
And then we would go and like I'd pick her up and like take her
in your spots and then you know, you try and find other dog pee
and then you set your dog near it, they sniff it, they pe
you're done, bring them back inside. But then she kept she kept sitting
down. And then I found out it's because for a lot of breeds of
dogs, the salt that we use to get rid of snow like just scratches
away at their skin, right, and as I've heard, also gets in
the between the pads on their on their feet too. And then yeah,
so my dog was like sitting down because I'm in pain, sir, please
please stop drag you can't go on my feet hurt. Have you figured out
a solution? Yeah, you get those dumb boots. And then I just
realized that I realized with my dog is wearing a jacket and it's wearing boots.
But I'm married, so it doesn't really matter anymore. So who cares?
Can you forget about the dog boots? I want to hear about the
dog litter box? Yeah, something to those. Can we interest you in
woodwork? Can you keep? Does that work? I think you just take
this in the next step and like you wear get big trench coat and put
the dog as your head with like a monocle and a top hat and then
like walk into stores and have the dog asked these like the bathroom or something
that's stick your arms around. And that's where I'm that dogs don't need to
be dressed up and they do need to be the head. Well to sort
of to related to that, as Brad's point is that we started getting very
desperate in the negative forty degree weather where we would she wouldn't even leave the
the apartment. And I don't blame her, like a small dog. It's
a small dog. And it's not even that it's just negative forty, Like
it's negative forty because of the windshiels. So you have like these gale winds
outside of our apartment that like I don't even want to go out in.
So my dog is just like I'm not doing this, and I was like,
well this is this is not a long term solution to this problem.
Dog, Like we're here. So my mom had bought like I just considered
it to be a joke and I just threw it in storage like one of
those potty pads, like the little things the patches of grass something does have
a little fire hydrant on it. No, but it's got like it claims
to have sense on it, but you know, I just feel like that
must all just be like a bunch of BS. So I just put it
down in desperation one afternoon. Uh, And now she uses it like clockwork,
like every the days that are bad, she immediately goes to that.
She scratches it, and she goes on it. And I don't know,
maybe it is all BS, but it worked for us. And now like
they're I don't have to clean up you're in every every four hours. So
does she poop on it? She doesn't poop on it. But it's a
small dog. So when I feel like it's just preparing me for children,
Like I'm just getting used to the idea of feces being everywhere, so I'm
just acclimated when I make that transition your meals, what is that? What
understand? I don't even understand where you go with It's like mustard colored in
the mustard phase. I was gonna say it, just throw chili around the
house. We started. We gave her chilunch. She learned to unzip her
sleep sack the other day, which seems like it would be great, except
now there's access to the diaper area in the nighttime. I'm just waiting for
her to painople all gross. It's all great. So yeah, Patrick's Patrick.
What else is news? Nintendo announced like a bunch of stuff last week.
They speaking shitty news. Yeah, and well, yeah, they've they've
been clearly been doing poorly financially. And the big rumor coming out of h
and I forget how you pronounced it's like the Nica. I think that's Nintendo
Nintendo. Oh okay, I think the Japanese papers the Nika. I believe
that's how you pronounce it, but I might be getting it wrong. Anyway,
they had a big rumor that and it's not even a really room with
them. They're like, that's like the equivalent of like the Wall Street Journal
reporting on something, So you know, it's a rumor, it's anonymous sources.
But they've been incredible with Nintendo stuff in the past, saying that you
know, They're big solution going forward is to produce mini games for smartphones.
Uh. The idea being that if they produced stuff for other platforms, it
would drive sales on their platforms, and WATA had cited in the past that
there was precedent for this. This game called Puzzles and Dragons, which I
don't know if that's popular over here. Is that a thing? It's pretty
big. I don't know that it's as big as that game is insanely successful,
right and it's and it's a free to play thing that's hugely a successful
in Japan, but then went on to sell millions of copies as a full
fledged three D S game. Uh, you know where they like, they
expanded it out and they you know, they made it into a you know,
a bigger, better thing that was sort of like I guess the template
that people thought Nintendo might adopt is you know, you kind of catch them
on the free to play stuff on iOS and then maybe you you get them
to buy it them three ds. But they didn't announced any of that stuff.
And uh, instead they said that they're doing like a there's a bunch
of weird stuff, like no price cut for the WU, the game pad's
becoming more important, Mario Kart's coming in May, virtual console is gonna get
DS games, and they're gonna do something with health. I don't know,
it's weird. Yeah, there we go. It's about time. So what
does that mean that the WU game pad is going to become more important.
Does that mean like that they'll integrate with games better. Yeah, they said
Miamoto is assigned like to come up with a new IP. I mean they're
basically I mean, they're doing what Nintendo normally does, which is, you
know, they what would be worse if they just gave up on the WU
and moved on and then pissed off the loyal customers they do have, or
they you know, kind of ride it out, try and make the best
of a bad situation, and you know, just silently work on stuff in
the background while they have you know, eighty billion dollars in cash reserves or
something ridic It was like that that they can burn through for the next two
years until they get where they want to go. Well. And and like
if you look at the games that were the big releases last year for the
WU, the majority of them did nothing with the game pad to speak of,
Like Mario and Pickman. You could both play game pad only or TV
only, right, Yeah, Pickman, but definitely Mario Wonderful one on one
did some some stuff, but it wasn't essential, right, So I mean,
I I mean, I'm kind of two sides, right. One is
that it would be nice to just be able to buy that thing without the
expensive ass game pad attached. But the other is that, you know,
if that's their differentiator, then lean into it and see what they do.
Yeah, totally make that system unique and show me why I need to buy
games on there. How is mia motive at this point is fifty? Might
be sixty one? Yeah, I just wonder how how long he can want
to keep bailing them out horrible at Samurai Gun. Do you think what do
you think his first console was? You got an Xbox One? Yeah?
Uh? So did the no price cut or you said no massive press cut
on the EU? Was that they can't actually something they announced ers they just
didn't need. I mean, they really can't do a substantial price cut without
uh sort of you know, like Will said, altering the game pad or
getting rid of it. That's the albatross of the WU. Like three fourths
of the cost of the WEU is that game pad, Jesus. Really,
So it's you know, I might be hYP hyperbolizing the numbers, but it's
you know, it's something along those lines where the vast majority I mean that's
we hardware, right, Yeah, look at look at what's in there,
you know, we plause. Yeah, look at what's in the console.
You know, it's all well it's last last yeah yeah, man selts short.
So what do you think's going on? When are we going to find
out anything with this ninten When do you think this strategy affects us as consumers?
I could just say twenty fourteen thing ors just like twenty fifteen sixteen stuff.
I mean, one of the things they said, and they're like Investor
Q and A, was that you know, they they recognize that, you
know, having a single sort of you know, they have an intended network
ID. You know, Watch obviously is on now on three ds and is
on WEU and have some ways of linking up. But you know, they
don't necessarily track all of your purchases in the way that you would like.
You know, if you buy you know, Super Mario Brothers on your three
DS, you don't that doesn't unmock on your WEU or you can't even pay
a dollar to maybe get access to that. And in their Investor Q and
A they pointed out that, hey, we need to not do that stuff
and do that stuff in the future. But you know, they the indication
from there being that well, that's probably not going to happen. Happen now,
that's probably with the next thing. I mean, they've they've you know,
they've they've made steps, like their hardware divisions are now they work together.
Before the three ds, uh the or I guess handheld and console divisions
worked completely separately. They were different tracks, and now they work together,
and you would imagine there'd be a unified ecosystem, but not necessarily sort of
the dream scenario of, you know, a handheld with an Apple TV like
add on that that functioned as a console. I didn't. Intendo moved slow,
but they have a lot of money to burn, and it doesn't seem
like a lot is going anywhere. So, I mean, Nintendo has been
in this situation before. You know, every four years you can find a
headline that says they're about to go under, So, you know, I
it is worse than it's ever been. But I don't know if that necessarily
changes anything in my mind that they wouldn't figure something out again in a year
or two. Have they ever talked about, like what their strategy was with
the two little titles that they rolled out at the end of the year,
the Neys remix thing, and the Doctor Luigi game. Like those games just
came out out of nowhere, right right? Or did you guys know about
them in advance? Oh? Yeah, they announced any S remix the day
that it came out. Yeah, Like, is do you think that's what
they mean when they say they're going to do smaller games for the other platforms,
Like it will be anys remix kind of stuff, obviously tailored to work
with touch controls. But no, I think it's more likely that you'd have
like a Nintendo Network app. And like, let's say, you know,
they can't assume you're gonna turn your EU or your three DS on every day,
but you're always gonna have your phone. So what if you know,
they sent a push notification that said, hey, you know, Doctor Luigi's
out today, would you like it to start downloading on your device or your
phone? Like the rumor implied that they would maybe make like kind of a
limited version of a game that was saying going to be out on the three
DS, like they would make that for iOS with like a subset of the
features, or almost like a demo more or less. Yeah, okay,
like a demo slash kind of crippled or handicapped version of the game that works
on the phone. Huh, and then would theoretically would drive people to go
buy the three DS version. I think I had in my mind was like
the fable uh pub games game. Yeah, strategy they need to emulate.
Yeah, well, I mean that wasn't a bad idea, it was just
a bad implementation. Yeah, that's of sure. Like I like the idea
of taking taking parts of the game that I can't like the stuff that works
in Assassin's Creed Black Flag where you send your Kenway's fleet stuff. If that
should be just a standalone iOS app that I can fire up and hooks into
my Assassin's Creed save game, that'd be awesome. Hey Patrick, did you
see anything about the uh the Yamamushi family and there's stock spying thing. Yeah,
I think Nintendo is doing like a buyback thing. They they so wouldn't
surprised me if the Yamouchi family was you would link to me to that.
It says that they're they're thinking the Yamauchi family. Who I you know,
obviously it was a Hiroshi Yama his first name. You know, he's essentially
responsible for a lot of Nintendo stuff up until Awada took over, and even
then Awada was was still working with Yamouchi. But yeah, I guess it
sounds like the Yamouchi family might might sell their stock that they got when Heroshi
passed, but that that might just be related to, uh, the larger
plan that Awada mentioned to I think Reuters or the Wall Street Journal where he
said that they they're they're really interested in doing a lot of acquisitions going forward.
So they intend to start spending the money that they do have because otherwise
they've kind of operated like Apple, where they they just hoard it for a
rainy day basically, and and and now that rainy day is here, and
you know, I mean, Nintendo's a big problem is that they as an
entertainment company, they don't have a lot of bets placed in a lot of
spots, Like there was a the academic in Bogos had a tweet about it
like last week that I thought pointed out how you look at a company like
Disney and you just think of them as Disney, but they're also ESPN,
you know, and all these other all these other ventures they've they've they've but
you don't think of them. You think of those all those independent entities,
but they're all Disney and Nintendo is just Nintendo. So Nintendo live and dies
by one good idea and then if that good idea doesn't turn out, then
they have to wait for the next good idea. And so I think maybe
part of what Nintendo's play might be is have more risks out there, so
if one doesn't work, then maybe they can push on the other. And
I think that's where that health initiative comes from, is that they look at
what we Fit did, which was they found a way to make fitness fun
for a lot of people that maybe don't uh normally engage in that sort of
stuff. And if that was separate from their hardware devices and was a significant
way to make money, I think what was it Konami for a long time
and maybe even still makes more money from pachinko machines than video games and health
clubs. Yeah, yep, yep, And so you have a lot of
companies that differentiate in that way. Nintendo doesn't do any of that, so
you know, they don't need to get into a lot of weird stuff,
but they obviously need like alternate revenue sources to for for moments like this,
let's move on. You got that here, Grand Theft Auto made some some
money. Yeah, ships thirty two point five million copies, that's a lot
of that's a lot of copies. What was it? Also was the Mao
Kart for I think, wow, forty I want to see Mario Karts seven
ships something like forty million or something really stupid like that. When you talk
about like a successful franchise or game, they talk in the numbers of like
four to five million, right, like shipp they're sold. Like that's like
something like this is really successful, Like we did four to five millions to
thirty two million. Well at the end of this console generation too, and
that's I mean, there's no way to tell if that's sell through, but
like that's whatever. That's enough. They're not shipping thirty two million to just
get put on store show. I haven't seen stacks grandst a five. Ye,
that's crazy dollars. That's crazy. That's what you're that's where you're estimating.
No, they multiplies by sixty fifty, by sixty six close to point
eight. That's a lot of money. That's a lot of money. That's
a lot of cocaine. You know, that's that's a lot of that got
to that's a goots you. It's a good telling. Yeah, you can
start a small country. The iPhone calculator did it in in scientific notation.
Yeah, what's the exponential two point one times? Eat of the ninth,
Eat till the Ninth, Eat to the Night. You know who does Eat
to the ninth numbers? Rock Star? Rock Star. Wait, if you
turn it sideways, it just gives you a bunch of zeros, then it
just says boob. Yeah, uh it's a B with a billion. So
this was there was this rock Star putting this number out. Yeah, there
was a take to financial call. I think good for the year today.
Yeah, see Mary, Yeah, Mario Kart we thirty five point two six.
Man, there's a lot of copies of amount. I think I saw.
I wish I had a source for this. I think I saw something
about a leak that implied like a next gen console Slash PC release this year
for GA five. Yeah, that's been that's been pretty rumored for a while.
I wo it would be shocked me if they didn't do at least a
PC version. What are what are their DLC planes? Have they announced that?
I think they put some stuff out for GTA Online. I would be
shocked if they didn't do like another one or two campaigns. Maybe, I
don't think the I don't think the episodes for four performed all that well.
No, they did really poorly because it took like a year and a half
for them to come out and by and no one really I mean, I
love that stuff, but you know, it didn't do very well financially.
So I guess I guess on the Take to Call, all the all the
analysts were talking about was asking about GTA online, like that's where all the
interest is financially really, like, like, how do we still make money
from on the part of the investors or the audience? I guess, you
know, making money off the audience for the investors. Yeah, but what
I mean is that purely speculative interest or are their actual numbers like are still
are there's still enough people playing that that No, it's it's speculative interests.
I mean, if you listen to any take to Call, every investor on
a year that there is no GTA game, is the first question is always
when is the next GTA game? So you know, I think from Take
two's perspective, they would want to push GTA a lot. GTA online pretty
hard sort of, I guess, regardless of how it's doing, because that's
a way for them to sort of shut those people up if they can make
money on that in you know, GTA off years, which you know is
probably every you know, at least every four to five. So so they're
thinking that there's like call of duty kind of legs on GTA online is what
the usters want. Yeah, okay, where's where's Red Dead? Man?
I don't know, man, I don't know. It's got to be somewhere
in that one point eighty seven trillion dollars, right, Just buy a team
bully to Bully Too. Yeah, that's that's the way when I want.
But I don't know. There's been I mean, like there's been Bully Too
and Red Dead rumors for a while, like stuff showing up on LinkedIn a
number of times. So you know, I suspect both of those exist in
some form. It's just a John Marston has updated his profile. Check it
out, Sheriff. After you said buying a team, I now have like
a sci fi novel in my head where corporations just grabbed those corporate buses they
hijacked the corporate buses and for the employee so that they can put them to
work at their company to build France piers. Yeah, lott another bus today.
Guys, Hey, Sergey, where you got any any leads? No?
Nothing. I don't know the bus goal. I think Surgey is American,
dude, I don't know where the bus went. That's better. Patrick
won't tell me about pimball arcade. I don't know. I put this one
in here for you, okay, because I've heard you say this before,
but it says the pinball Arcade extends the dummss license to get Black Night two
thousand, among other tables. Black He two thousand is the best pinball music,
the Black Night. That is not just me. That is a scientific
very pimball music. Pimball music. Okay, that is good. He is.
Do you have no way? Where where do you go? Pin pinball
OSTs? Where do you go together? You go to California Extreme Cats?
Yeah, bring her bring your digital recorded to cats. Okay, just set
it on the table and play. Okay, yes, and we'll swap tapes
after. Do you have one of those hats with the two microphones on the
side. I do not. That's amazing. I do not mine has beers
in it. Okay, uh, that's great, that's fun. Jeff will
be sacked about that. H The Wolf among Us episode two, Well,
when this comes out, I guess February fourth, did you write this headline
that's in here, The Wolf among Us episode two to be among Us February
fourth. No, No, you can blame, you can blame, you
can blame. Joystick was gon. That's great. You'll never be able to
deliver, be able to top that that morning show headline you had the one
time. What wasn't something like the Wolf among Us has played the Wolf among
Us? Oh? Yeah, that was pretty good. That was yeah,
that was I should I should have just I just should just quit. Gone.
All right, let's let's move on Patrick. What you got up next?
So we were talking about Dark Souls. We did that big that big
video, so I've been paying attention a little bit of that stuff, and
I guess the team it originally said outright that they weren't going to do DLC,
especially for how poorly implemented it was in Dark Souls. You're talking about
Dark Souls to DLC. Yeah, yeah, they said they weren't going to
do Dark Souls to DLC because you know, it unbalanced Dark Souls in a
really profound way. It's it's it's kind of hard to get to when you
have to do it mid game. It's it's really where it's terrific. I
highly recommend people check it out. What do you mean you have to like,
is there a point where you can no longer go back and get to
it? Yes? Yeah, really there's a point of no return. Yeah.
Well does that go for the entire game or just the DLC. What
do you mean, is there is there a point where you just just can't
get to any of the previous part of the game. Well, there's definitely
an end point in the game, But I don't think you're locked out like
you are out of the deals because to the process you told me about for
getting into the DLC sounds incomprehensible. It's more than just curling up like an
egg. Yeah. I didn't even know there was DLC for Dark Souls,
So it's really good. It's one of my favorite boss battles. It's included
in the PC version. Okay, but so, what was the story with
Dark Souls to a DLC. So, in an interview with o exam I'm
not having a chime pronounced. The producer's name says, right now, we
are concentrating completely we've got but I think there are next steps, and I
we can expand Dark Souls too, And they said kind of after that that
it sort of depended on on fan feedback, and I just I'm curious.
You know, Vinny, you've played Dark Souls and you've done the DLC,
and I did that too, and I really enjoyed it. But you know,
obviously, I think we can both agree that the way it was implemented
was pretty terrible. I just don't even know how they go about doing that
unless they do it in a I don't know, separate story sort of style,
but that seems to go against sort of the Dark Souls ethos of you
know, sort of building out your character. I don't even know how they
would handle I mean, I can think of like a couple of I can
think of one easy way to avoid what they did the last time is don't
require you to like reset the game to access the content. But yeah,
they're like a stand and he might not have to reset it, like you
might be able to die, come out, log back in. But like
the way I think a lot of people access it is like standing the spot.
Now turn the game off, Now turn the game back on. Now
walk over here. Now turn the game off. Now turn the game back
on. Now walk back to where you saw nothing before. Now there'll be
something there. Really, Yeah, that is fucking crazy. You can't do
without a fact like it's it's it's ridiculous, like it's it was the one
thing that when I was playing at people were like, don't feel bad,
don't even bother trying to figure it out. You paid for this DLC or
you know, you got in the PC edition I bought on MPs three,
and I was like, if I had bought this and not look this up,
I would have never ever found this. That explains though that game partially
but kind of. But you aren't. You can pay for the game,
but then you're like, I'm gonna buy this DLC because I really love the
game, and then never see it. I get what you're saying, though,
there's a weird meta game. Yeah that is that is that game's mo
is hiding things. That game should totally be all it's DLC should just be
new game plus shit that happens, Like you gotta get to you want to
get to the DLC, you're gonna beat the game seven times. That's what
I think would like cater to that. How much do you hate yourself?
You go beyond DLC. Well, so they don't leave in the door open
basically, yeah, yeah, they just it sounds like they haven't really thought
about it, which at least gives me. Well, it worries me because
if they just do it later, then maybe they just tack it on.
But I guess you could do it in sort of like a Fallout three sort
of way, like where they just sort of tacked on the DLC and modified
the ending to let you just kind of go back and and access it that
way, because the idea of like starting the game over again to access that,
I mean no this, you know, I'm speaking as someone that will
play that game once. Uh. You know, obviously a lot of dar
Souls fans like to play that game, you know, a number of times
to get all they get out of it. But you know, if they
do that again with two, then I just can't see myself ever even experiencing
it. Uh's what's uh, what's up with the spinal He's in killer instinct?
If any man he's a skeletons. Tell me about spineal Patrick, I
don't know. You tell me backstory's skeletons, a skeleton with the sword,
and she probably had he probably had a pretty good song on the Killer Cut
soundtrack. Probably. I think the shield has a skull on it. Probably
not as good as it does it. I'm pretty sure it's a little that's
a little morbid, I think so, while he is a skeleton, so
it's morbid already. So is he the now default character instead of Jaco?
No, no, no, that happened a little while back, though saber
Wolf has been the free character for a few weeks. Now, Jaco is
not Spinal. Just are they going to cycle through that? Is that the
plan? Yeah, that was always the plan for Okay, it was to
trade him out once in a while. But yeah, Spinal is in the
game now as a last Friday. Great, he's been patched in. And
I guess there was a trailer that came out that implied that full Gore is
probably gonna be the last character. He's not in yet. No, I
think they said by March the well, whoever the last the eighth character,
this will be in my March. I wouldn't have that community is doing.
I haven't haven't been. I don't know. I've been meaning to download spinal
and get in there and check it out. And lastly, Patrick, for
some reason, they made new for some reason, why is the memory for
all those games you could put on it memory or storage storage? You know,
they didn't modify any of the actual internals of how the heart it's still
like a was it Tegra three? Yeah? Is the processor the graphics ship?
Yeah, well the surface one. That's the whole thing, right,
It's like Android based. What's the work? They showing a new Tigra at
CS Tigra four. It's better than Tigra three. Oh wow, man,
amazing. I know you can make your your Android phone can get even bigger,
hotter. They're also like redesigning or looking at revisiting or doing again.
The controller. Yeah, no, they did. There's an improved controller in
there. But you know that's like, you know, the bar is pretty
low on that, Like that controller was complete dogshit and so you know,
I guess an improvement, but then you're also paying more money. It's under
in thirty bucks, whereas the I think the original bundle is is ninety nine
dollars. I assume you can just buy the controller and and p Yeah,
you can buy. You can buy the old U if you want. You
know, it's got less storage, but you can just look at USB or
an external hard drive up to it. Are there a lot of games now
with power fall leaving? You know, power falls out in a couple of
weeks. I think so, yeah, and then the PS four and Vita
stuff will be later. People people talking like Chess two is not bad chess,
I can't believe. I just earnestly used the phrase chess too without any
hint of it's like three D chess. Uh No, it's just chess with
a bunch of we've been working for that for a couple of thousand years.
I think, yeah, finally, Yeah, it'll be done when it's done.
Okay, do you know if you put worst The first time I saw
the words Chess two on on a screen, I died laughing. The Millennium
Falcon and like that's chess too, that it goes right from chess to that.
I don't know much about it. We actually have a review build.
If you never get Cheff to bring get and then I guess we could slap
it on there. I think it's I think it's just chess with weird extra
rule sets and stuff like on Poissana. Sure what, I don't know?
Castling Castling, Patrick, Castling, Patrick Ing talk tell me, oh man,
yeah, I just finished. I finished writing that story. I think
it. We'll go up tomorrow. I've been spending the last all most of
last week researching. I'm sure some of you guys saw the headlines like shiver
or quake or something, but like I wasn't quite sure what it was because
I'm not like a tuned Wait, something like three hundred thousand dollars of actual
currency were destroyed. I watched a stream for like four hours, and I
had no idea what was going on. But there were a lot of numbers.
Max just like turned and looked at me. It felt like a disturbance
or something like only something babies and dogs could sense was happening. Scandinavia sank
three inches? What happened? The story starts basically with an unpaid bill.
So one of the big things that happens in Eve online is it's called sov
War. So it's it's basically, you know, different coalitions uh fighting over
territories and when you have territories, you can you know, use that to
build war assets and things like that. Now, Uh, in the future
Eve Online for whatever reason, they don't have auto build paid. It's something
that they you manually have to do. You can set up certain systems so
that they do get automatically paid, but you have to manually go and like
set that stuff up every month. And anyway, basically a bill didn't get
paid and then this save this one section of space became open. Now,
normally that wouldn't be a big deal, except that if we were to think
about this in real life terms, it's essentially like if the US suddenly like
stopped at defending Washington, DC. Like it's like when Microsoft didn't tay Hotmail's
domain registrations. Yes, yes, yes, it's it's yeah yeah. And
uh, this was in the middle of a like this big stalemate between uh,
this one group called the CFC, which is largely the Goonswarm Alliance,
which they come out of something awful, and that has this guy named Matani
who is sort of this infamous guy. If you remember a couple of years
ago, there was a guy that got really drunk, said some stupid things,
uh, and got banned out of the game. That's that guy,
and he heads up uh CFC slash the Goonswarm and this other group that they
had been fighting against UH called N three. It's like part of like three
ends they had been they had been fight. But basically an evonline, when
you do softwar UH, if you're if you have enough ships, you can
basically have your healers repair the tanks uh in you to use RPG terms,
and it's just a stalemate and then you're just waiting for someone to screw up.
And the screw up was this base, which essentially was the capital of
one of these sides, becoming exposed, and so that side then had to
send in significant war assets in order to protect it. Now, the reason
they had to do that was because the moment it becomes available because they didn't
pay their bill, you have to set up an item that gains you access
to that that area and protect it for eight hours. Now, related to
all this is that the Russians, who are just called the Russians and there
and they're they're sort of like this weird rogue element because evonline has this much
larger meta game of time zoning, where you actually want to bring in different
players who are in different time zones so that when you go to sleep and
in order to build certain big capital ships, you have to do that out
in the opening exposed, So you need people in different time zones to protect
that stuff, and so you'll employ, you know, people like the Russians.
So they put in order to do that, they build coalitions to defend
this wow. So they end up being sort of this this weird rogue element,
and they're important for this story because the Russians were the only ones awake
when this bill was unpaid, and so they're the first ones to realize that
it happened. Now, now, what most people do is they just go
and they would blow it up and they would take over that spot. But
they don't do that, and instead they patiently wait while the team that didn't
pay the bill try to set up their little node that has to go online
in eight hours. They wait almost the full eight hours, and then they
send in a fleet, destroy it, set up their own thing, and
then that's when the Goonswarm Alliance, who is part of North America. They're
awake, they bring all their guys in and then they just start squatting on
the space and at that point the other alliance that had not paid their bill
then has to just bring people in to try and grab it back and protect
it for eight hours. Now it gets crazier in that when there's a couple
of ways that EV Online tries to compensate for these large scale battles, and
the primary thing they do is to try and you know, they beef up
servers. There's also a form you can fill out that CCP really highly recommends
players do so that they can stabilize the servers. Is basically you let them
know when you're going to attack someone dialect too. But then yeah, as
will allude to, there's time dilation and in this battle, which I think
would have gone on for about nine hours in real time, was slowed down
to like ten percent and thus became like a twenty one hour battle as a
result, And because of the time dilation, you're running at one tenth to
game speed, which means you have to plan out all your moves far in
advance, and it essentially then becomes like this pseudo RTS. And what makes
even crazier as this goes on and stretches into like it's eighteenth and nineteenth hour,
is that the other side realizes, Hey, we need to get out,
like this is unwinnable. The math is against us. And the whole
reason that the goon Swarm that something awful guys decided to pull the trigger was
because they had spies on the other side that let them know the math worked
out for them. So they just brought in everyone and knew that through war
of attrition they could just wait them out, and when when the other side
tried to leave, essentially they they I forget the actual term is, but
it's basically like these warp bubbles that sticky the ships into space and they can't
move, so they're all trying interdiction. Probably yeah, so they're so they're
all trying to warp out, but they've all then launched these warp bubbles to
keep their ships in place. They can't leave, and all they're doing is
getting pummeled. And at the end of the this uh huge battle, U
seventy five Titan ships were destroyed, which each take a month and a half
to build, cost the equivalent of fifteen hundred US dollars if you were to
translate disc and the destruction of a Titan is so monumental in the ev universe
that when one is destroyed, there are headlines on Eve fan sites like to
say, like, oh my god, it Titan was destroyed and in this
battle, yes seventy five, Patrick, I have a very important question call
this. Where was kite cold and all of this? Do we know where
they were? Do we know where they were? I don't. I don't
think they were participating. It was. It was tough once it got started
to participate because it sort of caps out in terms of who can get involved,
especially because of the time dilation. Like if you're just not there,
it's gonna be it's gonna be tough to to make any sort of impact.
But uh, yeah, Kaiko is still it is still going there are they
are? They are still strong in the lot of them are strong, but
they're still there. So what's the upshot here? So that's that's one hundred
and twelve thousand dollars worth of Titans? Yeah, I read it was like
three hundred thousand total assets lost in this thing though. Yeah, tons of
tons of stuff. Yeah, the Titans are like those are these the equivalent
of nukes? So like the reason that people spend so much time building those
up this because they are so powerful. They take so much time, and
a lot of wars get settled or mitigated by just pure math. Like if
if you're the team that shows up has thirty Titans and you don't have thirty
Titans, then you know there's not a whole lot of point in the match
happening. So you know, for for this goons Swarm Alliance, you take
out so many of these Titans. I think they lost. The Goonswarm Alliance
lost fifteen, but the other side, you know, lost like fifty something.
Like when I when I talked to the guy who didn't pay his bill,
uh, you know, he said that essentially set back everything they've done
for the last six months, and it's you know, it destroys their entire
campaign that were they were waging. So did you see what CCP is gonna
do about. Yeah, they're putting up They're putting up a memorial. There's
gonna be like they're gonna be like a permanent space plaque installed that commemorates this
battle, like a monument I remember in space. Yeah. Not not only
that, but they're apparently gonna go and see the area with like salvageable debris
from all those titans, oh to be like, but over time the ecouto
though, like yeah, like people can go get it, but no,
they're not gonna dumb it all at once, you know, I guess for
economic reasons, they're gonna kind of dule it out over time. But Eve
is basically the metaverse from snow Crash, right, Like, that's that's where
we're at. I hope we're going to go, but it is, you
know, there's no sword fighting, I guess, but there pizza. I'm
sure there's pizza. Patrick. So it's is this the you talked to the
guy who forgot what happened? How do you forget to pay his bill?
He? Uh he he went and thought he basically he calls the Evonline corporate
interface a sucking chest wound, which is to say that he is pretty sure
it was a glitch and that they have a process in place where two other
members of his corporation corporations are like how players come together. Sounds like a
CEO passing the bag and then two other people checked it and they they said
it looked fine, but obviously obviously it wasn't. So I mean, it
was funny like that this Mattani character who we heard all sorts of things about
when Drew and I were out there, uh last year. Uh, dude
is a notorious shit talker, and you know some of the stuff he says
in my interview, I think, what's the they put their dick. They
put their dick on the table and we chopped off and like that's like that,
that's gross, just minor ways that Why would you put on the table.
I don't know, dicks on the table right now, there's that big
wall of monitors and I can't see. That's why you don't get a table
saw. That's not all. Oh, Patrick, thank you so much for
sharing. That was a fantastic I can't wait to read that. Yeah,
when the story it should it should be up by the time this this runs,
and I'm currently editing the I'm I'm getting the interviews together to go up,
as as as dump trucks, And then I sent off my rough draft
to actually some folks in Kaiko to basically just double check my lingo and stuff
like that to make sure I've got it all understandable, but that that should
be up sometime. As you listen to this, I feel like a trapped
like diplomat in some other country with kait Ko. Yeah, they've just they've
started going on their own. You've never been there. I'm just there.
I'm their leader that lives in a different country, exile, ye Patrick,
what else is going on up on the site? The folks can go check
out. I don't know. I'm gonna try and beat Yama. It's Bilunky.
We're on the We're on the road to beating Yama. And then I
think, uh, I think that will mark the end of not me playing
Spilunky, but at least me doing it on the site. But I'm I'm
considering then spinning that until like a uh, just sort of rolling the dice
on different roguelike games, uh, and and trying to I've heard a lot
of good things about Binding of Isaac, but I never really spent any significant
time. One is pretty good too, Yeah, nucle Throne's really access so
you know, I that seems a little bit less interesting, but because it
won't be static, but Binding of Isaac, I know, like folks that
like Splunky have put like hundreds of hours into that game, so you know,
I only played maybe fifteen minutes of that for a quick look when it
came out, and it seemed okay, but I didn't get much out of
it, so I might check that out. So we'll see as soon as
I can beat Yama, which I'm close, but uh, you know that
might curse me to another month of splunky, which there are worse things.
We can only hope. Thanks Patrick, always a pleasure of having your and
yeah, and we'll catch up with you. See, I'm sure see it
all right, Take care guys, Patrick, Sorry about shit talking to you
earlier. Don't worry, you'll still lose. I know, all right,
Brad. You know what time it is, Emails. It's time to get
up. It's time to get up. So much to do? Ay,
ready to play? It's time to get up. The time to get up.
We'll have fun today. If it's Sunday, we go outside, go
to the phone for everybodysy, go ride, meet some friends out the streams
and slides and have a go with something we've never tried. Emails. Time
to wake up, the time to wake up, open your rise. It's
a brand new day. It's time to get up. The time to get
up. We'll have fun today. It's been training. We'll stick in,
throw up your big chuns and color. Then in emails, bake it game,
make yell, I sing, you get to take your thing guns and
that's the best day. Emails. It's time to get up, time to
get up, so much to do? Are you ready to play emails?
Time to get up? The time to get up. We'll have phone today.
I'm ready done. Fantastic emails. We have an emails song the Fatures.
Brad's a good our shows, he says, emails a bunch really weird
questions, weird to be Did you guys just use that one all the time
every time, like you because you show sometime. No, no, no,
it's always yours. But before that one came about, we never had
an emails music before that. Sure, No. I just played the the
riff that that Phil by the way, who is awesome, And I think
you should play Quake two with you, right, Dave? Yeah he did.
Yeah, he cut out like a little bit from our from our main
theme. And that's our interstitial music. Done done. I can't remember how
it goes. Now I've got I've got an actual I've gotten email here.
That then is a great segue for before we get to that Drew. Where
can people send your emails? BombCast at Giant bomb dot com. I'm sorry,
bombomcast at giant bomb dot com. I'm sorry one more time, BombCast
at giant bomb dot com. Send your emails to BombCast at giant bomb dot
com. Was that BombCast at giant bomb dot com. That's right, Bob,
Giant dot Bomb. Silly Goose. Max Now says, I don't know
where he got this, but he says silly goose and then has a fake
laugh that goes with it, so he'll just be like silly guess what anyway,
I had mentioned an email. This email comes from Aiden. He says,
Hello bombardiers, Aiden, Aiden, we want to go with fran Will
and Defoe. Thanks that you guys from Australia. He says, hell knows
does all the musical stuff. Oh that's a fun been wandering for quite a
while. Alm musically talented and clined each the thought, well, let's crossed
my mind on numerous occasions. This is like, Jeff K Yeah. Also,
did you read the theme song for the Bombcaster's license from some library?
Where does it all come from? So? Yeah, our bomb cast themes?
I think Phil has done most of them, build it all? Did
all of them? Yeah? Uh, and we've we've kind of tapped him
over the years. How many of you had now one for each year we've
had some. He hasn't done every single piece that's ever been on the show.
No, but he you know, he wrote the original, He wrote
the melody, Yeah, and has remixed it many many a time and reposed
we arranged it. Uh. You know, Jeff's got the band and stuff
like that. I think he's he's pretty synthy. He definitely Uh. I
think he can play a guitar too, plays a bass, play bass.
Yeah, Brady, you were into a little you gli oh. I never
got one of those. What what's your instrumental choice? The vocals? The
brad pipes? Hey, Vinny, you remember that a time? Yeah song?
Yeah? Did it go a little something like yeah this you've been just
surrender because of stand my ground. You been just surred because of stand my
ground. You better just stround you better track playing it down track FI track.
It takes so incredible In school, Yeah, yeah, Drew, you've
played the piano for me. Yeah, you've even played Halo on the piano.
Yeah. Do you play anything else? Uh? No, I was
in chorus in school, Dave. You've played guitars, I sing Uh.
I like to sing blue ground or sing blues music with you. Yeah,
and you built your own guitar once I did. Once would working was in
early You can batch it barely well, I'm terrible at it. Uh,
classically trained oboist for real? No, no, oh man. I played
the harmonica a little bit better. Yeah. Can you do you like that?
I can play oh Susannah? Oh wow, I can riff man.
I don't have one of those things that goes around your neck. You don't
pretty. You still use your hands? Yeah, yeah, I hope you
have to use your hands to make the wall. It's important video you play
guitar, I do. I dabble in the in the guitar, a little
little piano. I played trumpet in the really elementary school. I was the
trumpest played trumbo. And if we're going that far back, yeah, what
kind of trum polished? Or was it rusty? Okay, I don't know.
It's whatever they get a music store. You probably know where. I'm
sure here this whole email has been a set up for that joke. I
had to wait. I had to look up Brat played in the elementary school
and his mom who I wrote that email? I used Max as an excuse
to buy a guitar when he was born. I'm not afraid to admit it,
I said I had. My wife had told me, Like a friend
who actually plays guitar in a band was like, oh, yeah, he
bought like when his son was born, like bought him a guitar for his
birth year and like that that was kind of awesome. I was like,
that's such an awesome idea. We should buy Max a guitar, Like I
bought him a telecaster because I really wanted to talk about So now you just
play his guitar. No, that's keep it. You pre bought a guitar
for your child for like when for when he's like if if he wants to
play a guitar, there's but how awesome would it be? Like I would
be psyched if I had a nineteen seventy eight guitar that was like in mint
condition. My wife up there, I'm not gonna put in the attic.
She plays in multiple bands, plays multiple instruments. She didn't do that.
Yeah, she bought the Prince of She bought prince no like prince, not
like prince, not like pancakes and princes, but like bought like small little
prints, like poster prints of instruments. That's say, like beads for banjo,
Like I had cars in my room. Yeah yeah, oh yeah,
we've got manolins, We've got banjos are all over the place. I'm not
saying it was rational. You're nuts. Where is it in the closet?
Yeah? Just is it like in a box in a hard case? That
is, so you're just waiting for him one day to say, Dad,
i'd really like to learn how to play the guitar and be like, hey,
guess to go to the store or whip this out to be like I
am no interest in the guitar and be like, well, okay, you
know that's well, you want to check out Dad's and new telecaster twenty twelve
telecaster how about Hey, we talked a lot about will you'll like this one?
Drew onto a driving range? Okay, where you hit the golf ball.
I was listening to this this morning on the way. Yeah and uh
And he said he went and he hit golf balls and he has to like
use vision to to kind of track the golf balls and see how far do
they go? Right? Getting this right, you have to use your eyes
to measure half fall the golf balls, so you just kind of look at
the sunne that says like thirty five yards and did the ball go further or
closer than that? Yeah, that's the idea. It seems really inaccurate.
Okay, And I said, boy, why don't we just make the put
RFID tags and the balls and then have a track how far your ball goes?
Yeah, that seems like something Vinco could do. Uh. And we
got this, you know from Jake that says last week Drew talked about going
into a driving range. I mentioned that already, Jake, but thanks for
picking up a slack and he said he had to watch how far the golf
balls go. Said all this ready, and I mentioned RFID tax He's saying,
Vinny, and I just want to let you know I went to a
d driving range. This is Jake and at the end of at the end
of last summer, and the balls all had RFID tags. Wait what did
not see that? The balls to stop me if you lose me all had
RFID tags. Golf balls, we're talking golf balls all had RFID tags in
them and they would get associated to a certain player based on a card which
looks like a credit card. And then when you hit them the golf balls
to certain spots, you would get a certain amount of points and it would
transmit back to a computer. Hold on, but if it's transmitted to computer,
there's an RFID tag. That means it's the fucking NSA can track your
balls. Now, Yeah, they can track your balls. They've been tracking
your balls forever. Why why would they need to track my balls? Who
doesn't want to track Wilson's ball? I'm pretty sure no one. I don't
want anybody balls. I don't love my wife track it weird? Gross?
No, they're good. I mean there's the same number of dimples on each
one. They're all exactly the same the balls. Maybe you feel if you
feel certain anomaly on your dimples and your balls, you should probably get that
checked out. Go to the golf pro. It's not gonna fly right,
Hey, Tony, what's up with my ball? Let me give a feel
out here. No, they feel pretty good, can you? Is this?
Is this one a little bit bigger than the other one? It looks
unusual? I know, not as there's a left well, they have to
bounce them off the ground to check them, roll around in their fingertips.
No, your golf fine, let me check out your putter. Do you
even wash your balls when you're at the at the golf course? I try
everyone you wash your balls through. I did not know it's in the ninth
hole. Usually you just dunk it in there, switch, swish. And
this was a driving range, This was not your house. I would think
they'd use radar to track the golf balls as they leave. Yeah, because
where you like nineteen sixty, it's Doppler radar. You can tell it follow
the path and get like a little map of your slice or your hook or
your tags. But that's just gonna tell you where it starts and where it
finishes, not the path that used to get there radar. It's all about
the journey, then, he not the destination. You're weird. So back
to the email. Was it cool? He said it was awesome. Yeah,
he thought it was amazed. Did you have like a print out of
like where his like the track his balls took. No, they don't provide
him with the map of his ball location. I am fucking the man.
Oh, let's let's step this up a bit. In the maturity sector scrowed
them. Last week he talked a little about flip flops, and this week
we're gonna talk a little more about fuck. This comes from Jordan. He
says, most of them. I spend most of my time in some brown,
all leather flip flops, and I would never wear them to the office.
But I've always thought they were acceptable for any situation that did not require
a blazer. That it's a wide range, like a fancy restaurant to like
you're wearing a tux seed, you're not wearing a blazer, he says.
He what I'm implying from this is a flip flops are a go. After
listening to last week's podcast, I have one very important question. Is it
really true that there's still is such thing as nice flip pops? So,
so, here's the thing. I don't have a foot flop aficionado. Yeah,
I have been wearing flip flops for many years. In fact, I
thought you were like a hippie early when I met you, I was like,
you were wearing them all the time. This was the most flip flop
unfriendly office I've ever worked in. Yeah, I thought you guys, everybody
has beards, you're all internet fuckers. I thought it was just like live
and let Live man las Fair, No but no. Eventually Jeff pulled me
aside and was like, hey, we got to talk about the flops.
Like, I don't know where yours what can wear? He doesn't wear flip
He left his flops in our office when he quit our because he didn't because
he didn't wear him. He just walked out barefoot and lose some fancy free
You have the advantage Coonts shoes in there too. Those are amazing. Don't
ever talk best pair of bad So what are you saying here? We all
as the kind of defender of the flop? Uh, where are you gonna
what are you gonna answer? Is there no nice flip flop? I have
a pair of nice flip flops that you would wear, So you have dress
flop. I've been to I've been to parts of the of the Equatorial regions
that are like nice resorts where you go and basically you know you're wearing flops
the whole time. Are you wearing sandals? Are you wearing horse or equator?
Equator equine his horse? I believe? Okay, yeah, tropical regions.
I wouldn't be prize with either. With you, it's both I we
you don't wear flipops around horses because you will lose toes that way, all
right, because they step on you when you're not wearing real shoes. You
got if you're if you're wearing real shoes. Don't wear sneakers around horses either,
Why because they step on you and they weigh thousands of wells I wear,
fuck you up. Boots are what you wear around horses. Boots cowboy
boots? No, well, I mean if you're a fucking cowboy, Yeah,
of course i am, But you should just wear There are things called
paddock boots. There, there are work boots. Any of those will be
a sufficient for wearing on horses if you are at a resort. Yes,
it is acceptable to wear a pair of nice leather flip flops to dinner.
What about plastic splastic flipflops? Also? Okay, somebody's look down their nose,
but they're probably an asshole, so you know it's fine. Fuck them,
don't don't wear leather. I'm i gotta come down on the flip flops.
I'm gonna say leather flip flops are called sandals. Nope, nope,
sandals have a thing in the back that holds the heel on so you don't
make the traditional flip flop noise. You're right if you're wearing those, No,
you're you. You're out of my restaurant. If you can walk silently
in the shoe without having to modify your stride in a noticeable way, it's
probably okay. Otherwise, say no to the flop. Okay, there you
go. I'm glad we had you here. I'm just saying, like you
likely birkenstocks are okay. But the other thing that you people who grew up
in Northern California don't know, is it for a while in like the nineties,
you could go into a Sam's Club and buy a pair of fucking Birkenstocks.
Well, they're made like right near where Jeff and I love Yeah here,
Yeah, that's world headquarters. But around when you moved to Northern California,
if you wear birkenstocks, people assume a lot of lifestyle choices about you
that may or may not be true. Like, for example, Dave,
would you be interested in a live action fantast mcgorian movie? Absolutely? Why
not? Be amazing? Because we saw it already it was. Is it
based on the first one or don't tell me you are bulls. I would
if they do that, I'm you know, if they did that movie the
way they should do it is as like the Clue movie, Like I want
different endings, like how how awesome would that be? Fantastic? I'd love
to see it, Yeah, fantastic. What if he Berta. Williams was
there, She's on her boat like she's she's got check out? Yeah,
oh she did, totally did. Yeah, she's kind of awesome. I
love I love the Yeah, I loved her Bird of Williams. Sorry,
I love that. She was basically like, yeah, kind of fucking.
I don't need to make video games anymore. Yeah, I got I'm having
a good time. They got out at the right time. Once you get
boat money, then then who cares? What else do you do? Do
you guys know who Miriam Margolis is. She was on Er one year.
Probably she's a good wife. Rumor has it that she will be And I
don't know if she was that a question. Yes, she was in Harry
Potter The Legend of the Guardians. Do you remember who Harriet is? Harry
what? From the Fantastic I must have been the main woman that was walking
around that we were to get her head chop halfsome right, remember the weird
wasn't there a weird sex scene? Well? I remember that was Victoria Morsel?
I think was the actress who played Morsel? Really? Yeah, I
think so that's got to be a fake name, right, Okay Victoria Morsel.
Okay, sorry, there we go. That's better. So anyway,
Dave, you're in. Yeah, let's do it. I but I want
a clue. I want clue endings. I want different endings based on you
know, our how our people rece that game. That game had want to
sing along, real uncomfortable mixes of violence and sex. Yeah, it was
weird. It was a weird game. That was send him by Conrad and
he he kind of also wanted to know what other cra games should be made
into low budget movies. Half Life, Kings Quest, Kings West wouldn't work
well. Police Quest though, Police Quest would be. So who plays the
one of the cops in police Quests? One of the cops? Man John
Voight? Yeah, sure, John Voight, he could be just the He
could probably also play the villain just like give me that heat, you know,
John Voyd with the weird mustache, Like, I'll take that Police Quest.
I didn't. I wasn't a fan. Brad. Do you like those
Sierra games? Right? Police Quest game, Police Murphy. Text Murphy was
a SERI game, right? No, No, it wasn't. It was
Access Access Dynamic. Yeah, the links people. I stand by that Text
Murphy would still be a great Tierra adventure game movie. But then again,
it's just like, did you see the new Text Murphy game coming out?
Wait? What is the same guy playing text? Is he like Grizzled Oldest
Ship? Now he's pretty old, he's been years looked amazing. And there's
if you guys watch it, Oh my god. The first time I watched
I was, I stopped it and I had to show Drew. There's a
shot of a dude who looks like he worked for Jeff in Space Egypt.
Like it looked like one of Space Space Egypt's minions. And if you watched
the trailer for it, you well see him. I'm gonna go do that
right now. All right, here's a there's a quick question. We'll just
go around the room. This comes from Matt. Hey, guys, I
read a lot of books. Are there any good books about video games you
would recommend? Oh, I've read a Masters of Doom. Oh, that's
what I was going to say. That's a great game, a great book.
We got a good one that that I read that I liked. It
was more it Encyclopedia. It was called, I want to say it was
Dungeons and Desktops, which just went through every PCRPG that had ever been made.
Sounds interesting and just kind of talked about their influence and how they were
kind of significant. I don't think you could get on Kindle or anything,
but it was an interesting read because the guy you could tell he was like
a PCRPG nut, and so he broke all the little genres up like into
these things, and there were games in it that like I had no idea
of, and you know, it really was neat, like just talking about
like how important dagger Fall was, you know, Drew got anything, nothing,
nothing nonfiction but fiction wise, Lady Player one. It's pretty good.
Yeah, this very video game related. My on that kind of note that
super sad true love story, I feel like, is a good book for
people who play video games, if you want to depress yourself with whatever you
think. I think it's more good for people that are on the internet.
Well, like that's what I mean, like social media and video games,
Like people of this generation should read that if you're on just in TV.
Yeah, that's a that's an interesting book to read. Yeah, Will,
what are we talking about books about video games? Or maybe like if you're
way into video games, you'll like somebody take Masters of Doom. You had
snow Crash earlier. Yeah, I don't think that. That's pretty far afield
of the topic. Uh. That Neil Stevenson book about MMOs wasn't very good.
I mean it was, it was okay, but it wasn't really about
MMOs. I got nothing. I think Masters of Doom is great. Yeah,
I think you should watch King of Kong. Isn't He isn't the documentary?
Isn't he? Kind of persona on Garto? Now that Claying was a
huge disaster, I have. I have deep love for Neil Stevenson as a
creator of like five of my favorite books. Is one of my favorite I
I got no beef. I feel like he probably backed something like lent his
name to something. But so did Gabe Newell and a bunch of other people.
There are a lot of people were in that video for God gave.
Newell was involved in Yeah, so like I, I mean, they fulfilled.
I think their argument is that they fulfilled the letter of the kickstart,
right, But but maybe we're disingenuous in doing so. And also the razor
Hydra is not very good in my experience. Brad, you got a book.
I can't really think of anything besides a Master from Doom off the top
of the head. But the reason I would say that one is that I
don't want to read books about games or why they're important or whatever. I
want to read about the stories of their making. Sure, like that book
is about the people who made Doom, not you know, the game itself.
It's not like, oh, here's why Doom was seminole and important in
his day. It's like it's like here's human stories. Here's yeah, here's
in detail, like the human drama and what those guys were up to that
led to this thing getting made. I also wonder if Masters of Doom is
interesting to people who live through like the dawn of gaming news coverage on the
Internet. Like if you went into that not knowing who those guys are,
probably would be inherently that's interesting. So homework for anybody who's under the age
of thirty listening to this is to go read that book and then right back
and let us know if it sucks or not based on your lack of knowledge
about the context around A lot of a lot of people younger than us definitely
know who Carmack is because he's still right, But like you don't. You
don't hear about Romero that much of these days. But yeah, Rash,
I can't guess Isa Brash is a valve like he's still around. I can't
think of any other books in that vein. I've read some. I can't
remember the titles, but I usually don't enjoy them. Usually they're a little
the masturbatory and the kind of celebration of something, right, that's the kind
of thing I have. I want nothing to do with, and I just
want to hear the nitty gritty details of So you're saying there's a market there,
Yeah, totally. Well if the video game tell all, Like,
I don't know that the industry is old enough yet to really these guys are
still making games exactly like it. Don't get there. You know, they're
still the potential to burn bridges and stuff. If you're out there telling all
the sordid stories but there's also books that are about D and D and pen
and paper stuff. There was a reason one that came out that was called
of Dice and Men. Oh that was just waiting to happen. Yeah,
it's kind of an interesting title. But that's really fun to hear that because
I also I just got the Larry Elmore Like art book, and it's got
a lot of dirt on, like all the Wizards of the Coast and dragon
Lance stuff. I was like a kickstart project, wasn't I was? I
just got it like a month's great. It's the arts, cool and funny.
If you like that kind of stuff the right it needs to be edited
by like a real editor. Did any of you read the book the Dan
Takahashi book about the Dawn of the Xbox? Oh? Actually, I always
want to go back and read those. Yeah. I wondered if they were
businessy or if they were like if it's about the birth of you know the
man. I know the one about the he did too, right, he
did one for the original, one for the three six The one for the
three sixty is the one I wanted to read because it has a lot of
details, talking to like people that worked in the manufacturing lines for that thing,
talking about how rushed it was, and like how well, I mean,
supply was really short on that. Well, not only that, but
like what the decisions were that led up to them putting that thing out earlier
than they should have to try to beat Sony to market, and like how
it led to the red ring of death because it wasn't tested properly and stuff.
That stuff sounds pretty pretty dirty. Let us move on. We've got
some and what this podcast has become, but we have started getting some great
stories. Some of I love hearing stories about other people's jobs, especially jobs
we have to interface with the human and we have started getting emails about people
who are in the delivery service or is it gonna be as sad as last
week's We've got We got them a few, and hey, man, keep
them coming. I should say, if you have any book recommendations, say
put him in the comments or something of the podcast and check them out there.
People will check it out. Let's move on to hear a little bit
more about the working world. Because we got a few, and I had
to pick the ones. I couldn't pick them all. Can't pick them all
in the interest of time, but lace you could post these. Yeah,
it's my Studs Turcle book a great book, but it is a good book
you recommended that I thoroughly enjoyed. Yeah, it's a hefty book. Studs
Turcle is a dope name too. Hearing your delivery stories inspired me to write
you guys. I did dorg store sales in college for a bit, which
was weird, but my clerk stories are probably better, as comes from the
nick. The oddest story was my first day on the job at a new
store. I applied, got the job, and came in for my first
day. I was supposed to shadow the girl had been working in the shift,
but things quickly got out of hand. The girls started our shift by
turning the drawer over to me. We count out the cash and agree in
writing over what's in the drawer. She had well over a thousand dollars in
the drawer, which is insane. While counting, she said she was going
to take a six hundred dollars loan out against my register. I told her
fuck off with that noise. Apparently her kids dad needed the money, because
he showed up with the kids screaming about the money, threatening us both.
I implied that I give no shits about your woes and that you're not taking
my employer's money from the register. I proceeded to bring up customers and vacuum
the floor. Things got heated between these two, and a customer eventually informed
us that the police were on their way. Another round of fighting and demanding
money commenced, and I restated my fuck off position on the matter. The
cops arrived shortly, prompting the woman to grab a diaper bag from the man
and run into the bathroom. He chased her, leaving the kids in the
middle of the store, and pounded on the nile a locked bathroom door.
Cops came, got the bathroom door opened, and it was apparent that she
had been trying to flush some sort of drugs down the toilet. They took
them and the kids and left. She fought like a banshee. I half
expected her to start yelling Attica. That left me with my favorite memory of
the afternoon. Calling my new boss about an hour into my training. Hi
boss, Yes, it's Nick from the store. Nick. How's it going.
Is there a problem? Yeah? Kind of, Bonnie, She's calling.
The lady tried to steal six hundred dollars from the register, got into
a domestic dispute, had her kids taken from her, tried to flood shrugs
to hide them from the cops, and was taken away in a squad car
fighting. What. Yeah, I'm going to annoy that part of the training
that happened in the last hour. Yep, weird huh. He then offered
to come down, but I told him I could work some pumps, a
lot of machines, and a registered by myself. He trusted me and for
some reason stayed at home and that was my first hour on that job.
Team messed up, But I've been paying the bills as a telemarketer since moving
to that town, so this was a huge step up. At the time,
Wow, I thought this was gonna be I never thought this would happen
to me. But when he said there was a girl that was training him,
yeah, I know that one. Uh. It's a good first day
on the job. That's amazing. I really wonder where he works. We
got a bunch of these. I'm gonna I'm gonna read two more. The
moral of these stories is always that just like I felt, I feel bad
when I go to the store, to the to the door to pick up
a pizza, and I'm going sweatpants yeah, or flipflight, but everybody else
is horrible yeah yeah, or amazing. Like the best case, we had
somebody to say that, like like five out of ten times a girl dropped
her towel or something. I'm gonna bet that four of those five times is
probably somebody who's telling you want to stay on desperately, like please pick this
back, throw the streets. Chris writes in I used to be a carpet
cleaner. I answered a call to a client's home and he answered the door
with no shirt on and kind of ran his fingers like up his abdomen,
all a silence of the lamb style, and I thought that was a little
weird, but I had a job to do. He showed me the room
he wanted me to clean. It was a door with a padlock on the
outside of it. He opened it and it led to his garage. The
garage door had been bolted into the concrete at the bottom, and the only
object inside the room was a stained mattress. The carpet had several dark stains
on it, as well as well as urine. I cleaned the room while
my partner watched the owner and then we got the hell out of there.
This is the story about how one time I aided a serial killer. Oh
man, oh my god, I really hope he called the cops. Oh,
I thought this was about a unwarranted bedroom in the garage. Yeah,
you have to get at it was an unlicensed bedroom in the garage to the
floor. I mean it seems like you could because we live in America.
Yeah, I can't do what you want. No that you have to fucking
followed the letter of the law. I don't like these stories. You want
to freaking me out, Like I'm done after that one you got, well,
just gotta drive me now. I don't trust him. Hey, you
want to see my my garage that I bolted the door shut and there's a
mattress in there. I don't guess what's in there. Yeah, there's this
couple of hands. What is that on the wall? I got a bandsaw.
You know, they invented those for cuttings, but now you use them
for some magazines over there. And I used to work on a magazine.
I don't on this kind of magazine. This is this is not this is
not a crazy work story. We talked about dumb restaurants. I'll switch it
up a bit. They weren't going to kind of depressed this do a whole
letters podcast. I know some of these are so great. I just love
this stuff to death. I was talking about we were talking about robotic food
preparers and servers. Uh, and Michael says this maybe one ride in and
we did didn't have anything quiet that fancy in the midas Midbass, but we
did have a hilariously shoddy replacement. In the town I grew up in Sioux
City, Iowa, we have a restaurant called the Pizza Peddler. Give you
an idea about the quality of this place. It was housed in the former
town stockyards that a local eccentric had been trying to turn into an entertainment complex
since the mid seventies. The same rooms that once larger cows were now serving
pizza and also featured an indoor mint, a golf course made of old meatpack
doing machinery. Superclassic anyway, their gimmick was that they fitted a human sized
coyote like figure onto a large remote controlled tricycle, then put the tricycle front
wheel into a groove track in the floor that ran in a loop around the
dining room and back to the kitchen the blood track. This allowed them to
fill the coyotes surfing trade with food. Then humans unseen would drive it out
to your table, where presumably you were required to pick it up off the
tray yourself, and had also had a fast food speaker belt into it so
it could take your order and you could request your check. The human size
really Places closed down in two thousand and four when the building was deemed unfit
for occupancy, and some local youths then set fire to it a couple of
years later. Allowayers remember as at one place that you really wanted to go
eat at exactly one time and then never again. There's a there's a hot
dog place in the stockyards in Petaluma. But that's different. That's like going
that's like auction food. Yeah, yeah, that's a different thing. This
is this is this sounds like beyond imagining what they should have just used a
cow. I think that's a little too on the nose. But it was
a pig slaughterhouse. Gross what all right? Gotta die right? This emails
for you. This is that is to get you back up pumped again.
Ranny about work. How excited you were about emails a while ago. Yeah,
emails, you were really excited. When was that like when we started.
This is from Chris. He's the guy who wrote in when I was
like, oh, my shoulder hurt, and then was like, oh,
you probably have the you know, everybody's shoulder hurts after the thing out,
and so he wrote in and was like, uh. I was like,
oh, yeah, whatever. That sounds way more serious than when I had
said my bad anyway, and he writes in, remember he was a doctor
at I think he was actually a doctor out of Walgreen's right. He says,
ladies and gentlemen, years ago, I had a girl come into the
pharmacy one day that had some problems down there. I don't want to hear
this. I forget what was at STD or yees, and then flashed me
her junk, wanting me to figure out what was going on. Man.
The state of healthcare in this situation this country is no laughing matter. Say,
it was totally dumbstruck. Since then, I've actually had a couple of
close calls, but since her, I had been a little quicker to hold
the phone before they go for their pant. Wow. So now it's not
all bad story? Was she was she wearing flip flops? If she wasn't
at the tube? Is? Now? Hey, So have any of you
ever seen anybody naked in a work environment? Define naked, unexpected nudity in
a work plus okay, so unexpected no on camera? I did it a
couple time that you ever got paid for that? But again, unexpected being
in the keyword here. Okay, So like, have you seen below the
waste nudity in a work site? We were doing those Games of the Year
videos. There were some tight pants. I did warn everybody. Uh no,
I had somebody walking on in the bathroom. I forgot the lock ones.
Yeah it doesn't count. Okay, that's bathroom bathrooms I'm talking about.
Yeah, it seems like all these people have either nudity or drug use or
babies. This is not an office environment. This is like you're dealing with
the public. Most of these people are going into somebody's who. I'm just
saying, have we all chose and like statistically based on the number of emails
you've received and the number of people in this room, but I would assume
that one of us would have at some point had a shitty job that involved
us to see somebody's junk. Oh you're saying ever, I think, oh,
not right here. You guys normally keep your pants on. I walked
in on one of our interns because he didn't lock the door at the bath
room. Was he wanking or anything? Or was it just like nobody was?
He was? And it was pretty funny because it was just one of
those like, oh, never the same, Never look at that man the
same. At one time, I poured beer and bars in college, and
I one time had to stop people from having sex in the back dark booth.
Wow in the booth. Yeah, you're gonna say in a bathroom,
that's crazy in a booth man? Yeah, were you polite? I I
walked up. We had a baseball bat behind the bar, so I carried
it over there just in case there were any problems. Really, you had
the bat like you were just just shoulder like, did you roll up your
sleeves and put that little bartenders the roll with the bat? You don't hold
the come out to play. No, you called it low because you don't.
You don't want to be the You want to finish the fight, not
start it, So you don't. When I when I started bartending that I
got the lesson in effective bat use, and it's that you you bring it
up, you let them instigate in a confrontation, and then you you don't
threaten with the bat Initially you respond to a threat with the bat, so
you're holding it low, holding you hold it out your side. And then
yeah, and then and then but it didn't come into play because they the
girl was ran off. They was like dicks out and I was like,
in the middle of the leave there was penetration, okay, man, yeah,
and and and theres no excuse me, like like what did they say?
Like the bar and we're fucking ship faced and thought it was a good
idea. Oh I thought it was on my couch. What the conjugal visited
a prison? It was a really bad bar just there there no social graces
that apply to that situation. No, you can't be like hey, I
can't help, but knows you have your dick and your girlfriend this lady.
I think that was it a crowded barrow? Is it like empty? It
was like it was like the late night. It was like the after after
closing, but not liquor bar u probably alternative like early alternative. Maybe maybe
remember in Blues Tant Traveler was still alternative before this was like a scene from
singles. Maybe I was gonna guess like Country and Western, Oh they're having
sex the Blues Traveler, they probably weren't having a whole thing just got ruined
from me. It was probably was really up there with it, probably like
ween or maybe stone templed pilots. Yeah, really well, if we will
could see some ween. For sure, there was a lot of ween.
Last question here, this goes out to everybody. This comes in from Gavin
and he says a question to y'all, you ever wake up in the morning
and say I really don't feel like talking to a microphone today, and what
do you do to overcome these woes? Brad, I can't say that's really
ever occurred to me. Believe a choice. I really don't. Well,
he's asking where do you find your motivation? Where do you pull it from?
There's ill. Yeah, there are definitely some days when I come in
I got headache. I got a headache. I don't I'm not feeling I'm
tired. Mon I'm gonna see you guys, and it's all smiles and I'm
like, I got the greatest job in the world. Dave Snyder is gonna
be here, Will Smith is gonna be here. Wouldn't miss it for the
world. I'll tell you that. Recently, I've had the surprise Mike's,
which have always been interesting because yeah, yeah, surprise Mike, Mike Jordan
shows up. Okay, no, because like Jeff is full time on,
so it's like, all Will get picked up from my house, walk out
my door, and then in his car and it's like, yeah, Mike's
rounding. You're basically driving around an ed TV. Yeah, Jeff TV.
Yeah, it's weird live streamed uh A and w Hey what did you have
with W? I had a bacon bacon cheeseburger with the barbecue sauce and chili
cheese fry. They call that a Western Yeah, something like that. And
then uh, you know the room paper float. Okay, it was great.
It was superb Do you have time to get home before you know?
It was fun? It was good. I thought it was good. Okay,
I would I would recommend it. I would go there again. Okay
A plus plus Yeah, great buyer, so kind of needs more sellers like
this. Do you have any uh? I think I don't feel like you
just need to find it. Today I was feeling kind of sick, yeah,
and real tired. But I think once you walk through the door,
you kind of you're just like all right doing this, Like adrenaline gets up
and you just power through. Yeah. I think there is definitely something to
doing it often where it does you know, you're just like, okay,
we can do this, Like even if I'm not feeling one hundred percent,
I'll you know, try my best and we'll go for it. Yeah.
There are totally times when I'm tired. This is my third podcast today.
There you go, just do it. We did two Adam podcast this afternoon.
Does that count this too? Or is that one podcast? Two different
topics? How many is this? What is it? Is it really eight
fifty? This is into five hours? Yeah we should we should? Yeah,
sorry, no, continue with your story, but stress it out of
it. I'm done now, slow, it's good. Yeah, that's gonna
do it. We we started a little late. We started speaking of not
wanting sometimes not feeling up. We're talking into a microphone. Before we came
here, we had an hour and a half meeting, a minute long meeting.
Those in all hands and honestly, those are the Those are the things
that make it. Like those hour and a half long meetings are the things
that like I get up and I'm like, oh god, it's that day.
It's the call day. I've got two hours of phone calls. I
would much rather be sitting with dudes recording video game stuff then sitting here and
talkie talks. But thank you guys so much for coming by. Uh Will
and Dave, Dave, you've got here now a regular on the commute stream
so folks can catch you over there. I'm a professional podcast. Yes,
and you've got Monday through Wednesdays a right look for you. Yeah, check
us out at the chef scar and you're working on product and you've got your
whole thing going on. Yes, and then Will Hi, I'll let you
pitch some some of your stuff while you're here. We have a site that's
like set called tested dot Com. It's a little we uh we we do.
We cover people who make cool things and any science stuff. But oh
channel too, like that guy, like that MythBusters guy. We we have
Adam Savage and Jamie Hyneman from the MythBusters on our on our site so nicely
regularly and uh yeah, I mean, we make five videos a week about
people who do cool things. And we talked about products, and we today
we recorded a podcast about where we talked about True Detective, the new HBO
TV show. Was there no episode last night because of the fucking super Bowl?
But I mean HBO is not involved in that because it's just was on
The New Girl after the super Bowl. They just assuming nobody was watched Prince
on The New Girl. Like Prince Prince, I had never heard his voice
before, and it's not the same. It's it's very sexy. Blows my
mind. Yeah, he had like a he's saying more he's my Saints row.
He had like a like a legitimate speaking part. It wasn't just like
oh he's over there on a stage playing he was. He was a spirit
selling Jesus. Like no, no, yeah, I mean they're going to
compete with Prince. You're not going to change the channel for that. So
we talked about two Detective and then we talked about animated moments. So we
talk about stuff that we think is neat that's tested. That's basically what test
it is. And where when when is your podcast? Man? We have
one on Tuesday and one on Thursday, so ours will be up the same
time this one is. It's still entitled The Adams Havoc Project. It's a
Q and A episode tomorrow. We take it's like the last hour of this
podcast where we took questions, but without all the filthy stories. So you
know, you just bring it, you just bring it for this show.
Yeah, yeah, well he brought the filth whatever. You just need to
stop writing in Dear giant bomb Cast. I never thought this would happen to
mean carpets. Thanks Drew, Thanks brand, thanks for another bomb cast,
and thanks we have we have to plug demon Souls. That's right. We
Brad has agreed to do demon Souls tomorrow. Really from like I don't know,
like one o'clock until five thirty whenever, six five thirty in the morning.
That's a heck of a lot of demon souls and I can't wait to
see you after our time. I might bring myself a little snack or something,
because we would do well to build a breaking I have seen you had
two hours of Demon Souls and you're usually ready to go. Are you just
gonna grind? Just go out and grind those skeletons. At the start of
the fourth World over and over again. We'll see where it is and we'll
have professional prizes at the end of the week. Maybe a little more stuff
coming up. Thanks you all for listening, and that's a bomb cast. Emails