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All right, the bomb Cast coming
at you today on February fourth through.

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What do we have in store for
the folks? Well, the Vicksburgs are

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gonna start off a set and then
that'll be followed by the Wonders. Geez,

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that's great. Brad Shoemaker will be
here all right, and what's he

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gonna be doing? All right,
that's fantastic. Also joining us later on

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in the show, we'll have Will
Smith. I'm the first guest on the

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new Tonight Show with Jimmy Fallon.
Jimmy Fallon, I love games and Dave

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Snyder. I'm here. Apparently according
to Twitter, I still work here.

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Yeah, I think probably according to
our every time BASI employees, you probably

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still work here too. Every time
your website goes down. I still get

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Twitter's work great. Yeah, tough
men. Thanks. Jeff bailed out.

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He's going to all world hopping crazy
looking at video games. Wait our side

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down side down down? You're getting
Are you getting Twitter? Is it right

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now? Sometimes the fun ones I
get now, or people will just send

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me like when other websites are down
down down? Yeah, can you get

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that up? I gotta place his
Amazon order. I'm the Lord of the

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entire I got. I got a
couple of them. Joke. I like

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it. That's funny, that's good
stuff. You should save that for the

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podcast I can do. I'm Vinny
Caravella. Today We're gonna be talking about

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all sorts of things. And I
am extremely excited because not only do we

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have, like we said, Brad
Shommaker and Drew Scalon, but Dave Snyder.

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Uh, you might know from I
don't know, what have you done

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in the past. I put logos
on the wall here? Yeah that was

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you. Yeah, put a couple
of those there. Could you cut the

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transparency part out because it really bugging
me that it shows like white through and

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I keep telling people that I'm not
good at logos and they just keep using

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them. And you were from you
were in kninteen The Widowmaker, right,

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I was, Oh, that guy
Rory Schneider or Shider Roy Shider, yes,

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space. I always thought it was
a Snyder, but it's actually Shider.

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Yeah, very different. He was
in Jaws. He had a good

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part twenty ten the year remake Contact
he was which with I really enjoy hell

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Miren, like that super hot young
Helen Mirren is in Yeah She's a rush

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a Russian accent. Wait what I
believe it's called twenty ten. Let's not

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get ahead of ourselves here, blessed
slallables, slallables. Who's that? That

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must be Will Smith? Mispronouncing Hi
hi doing Will Smith? For people who

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don't know you may know me from
such things as executable. Yes, and

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he's the founder of PC gamer exactly, look it up. I invented PC

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gaming. Actually, yeah, it's
pretty the first one for that too.

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I'm not that old vinn for PC
gaming. Don't invent PC gaming. I

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played them one tank platon reinventing PC
gaming Will Smith And now you can find

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him over at test dot com.
If you don't know who these people are,

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asked the guy who asked you to
listen to the bomb cast, he'll

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he'll fill you in the old times. Yeah, yeah, yeah, kind

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of remember that time that we that
Dave played Grand Frisby five really shit faced

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and poured tequila in a Tate blind
taste test, And yeah, but I

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did much better after I was drinking, which that was the guys. We

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can't talk about this, we can't. We don't own those moments anymore.

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Oh no, yeah, sorry,
so you can. You can probably talk

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about those way. Yeah, yeah, Bun owns that. You guys own

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those moments. Well those along to
Whiskey Media. I don't know we posted

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on our website there there are YouTube
channel. You don't have to pay for

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him over there. Wait what I
mean? We'll tell us what happened at

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Whiskey Media. I don't have to
remind me of the days. We used

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to work in a basement, true, remember, and then we moved to

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another basement. Yeah, it seemed
like a better basement, but we were

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always sick all the time in that
second base mold. And then I built

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Lego and you built and then you
got something called a maker bought and then

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things went to hell and we wound
up here. So what else did you

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do Drew at Whiskey Media? Or
this weekend? Go back, go back

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as far as transition. That all
happened this weekend? Yeah, where were

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you watching the Big Game? I
bet Jude you watch the Super Bowl?

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Whoa, whoa, whoa? Don't
know that was on Fox this year,

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not CBS. I'm sorry. I
bought a two broke bowls that's on upn

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ceramic bowls is still emotion over and
over again. Would you do this weekend,

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I bought a over the air antenna. Okay, like wait what like

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yeah, yeah, which one?
Uh? The leaf? I've just got

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one of those two? Oh I
have that. It's like flat, yeah,

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and it's white on one side and
black on the other. It was

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this on a site called tested dot
com last week. I'm sorry, don't

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you something you don't acknowledge it,
we'll just bleep it out later. Is

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that you guys? Yeah, it's
like that, except it's a lot more

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charming without a sixth floor. So
I looked it up. Wow, and

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uh, the only channel I don't
get is Fox. I guess the superc

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NBC, so clear out of the
South Bay cannot wait for the Olympics.

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But I don't get Fox, which
is what the super Bowl was on.

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So I had my friend bring over
his cable box, which I didn't even

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know this works. He has HD
Comcast and I have SC Comcast and it

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totally worked. Wow, you plugged? Did they? Did they encrypt the

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HD channels though, like over the
air one? No, the Comcast Comcast

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was for a long time they were
supposed to not do that. Yeah they

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do know, yeah they fucking you
just get a loop of like a dude

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that's like, oh, you should
sign up for Comcast's serious. Yeah,

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it's just a dude. Like I
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television through the Comcast cable up until
until the last September. I had the

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cable q AM is what that's called. Like, Yeah, that coax runs

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straight into my TV. And yeah, I got all the local ship.

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Yeah. And they rolled this out
in stages nationwide. It's like, you

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know, SF got it one month
and then like Chicago Market got it the

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next month. Oh, we got
it. But yes, yes they're giving

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it to us. Yeah. You
have to get Yeah, you have to

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get like a tiny little decoder box
now from them, just to watch the

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local channels, which I thought was
illegal. But no, that the it

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expired. I'm sure. I'm sure
it was the thing that was mandated for

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a certain period of time. And
then fuck the man. Yeah, so

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you drew you were paying for SD
ten, twelve, thirteen channels whatever.

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Yeah. And then because it's cheaper
to do that, get internet. That's

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what I have. Yeah, I
have the SD package with the with the

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best internet. Yeah. And then
a friend brought over his special boxes beefy,

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I get nine yeah, and it
just worked. Is that that's great?

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Friend, my friend Jeff, I
think it works in satellite dishes.

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I don't know. Whatever weird thing. Jeff comes over. You get all

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the channels for free all the time. Oh, I see how that's going,

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my friend Jeff. Friend wink mister
Wirecause in my Comcast box, you

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know that little that giant box on
the side of an apartment or in your

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house or whatever, and then you
open it up and it's like one wire

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with like a little splitter on it. One is unlocked. I thought they're

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supposed to lock those up. I
should get in there and monkey ramp blow

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it out and I'll get he who
watches TV sports, right, yep?

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The Big Game? Yep, tell
me about it. It was going to

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be the worst Super Bowl game in
history because I think the worst margin for

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a Super Bowl game was forty five
points. The Niners beat the Broncos fifty

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five to ten one year like Super
Bowl twenty four John Elway year, right,

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Yeah, and then the Red Skin
speed them. Yeah. It was

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a real slacking year after and so
this and this was almost going to be

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that. So we would have had
a record, but we didn't. So

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it just break record. It's just
a horrible game. It was, it

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was, it was actually it was
actually disappointing that it wasn't disappointing enough exactly.

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Peig Manning had the most completions of
any Super Bowl quarterback, that's true,

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but they were all for like three
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lot of little hun nachos. We
had a lot of stuff. Let's break

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it down. What is Jews Super
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got the Drew's house. Hey,
Drew, has it going well? Vinnie?

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Yeah? Generally done paroguis every year. It's like it's a Polish dumpling,

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looks kind of like a pot sticker, but inside is one of two

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fillings, either saur kraut and onion
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potato and cheese sound pretty good.
So no meat this year in lieu of

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the potatoes and cheese. I did
meat and cheese. I did like,

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uh, like a lean beef with
palapa. No, It's okay, that's

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what they call me and ice and
some cheese. There's there goes lean beef,

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lean look out, caravels lean beef. And I made it with gluten

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free dough wow, which did you
bind it real hard? Was there like

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a girl that you had the jones
for? Coming over some some gluten free

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girls. I'm I'm going, is
that girl you are? Yep? Oh

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wow? So I come over and
I'm like, man, I at prose

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every year at Drew's house for the
Super Bowl. Check it out? And

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then how were they? They're actually
pretty good. I gotta told you they're

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fantastic. I got a low yield
this year because they were kind of crumbly

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the gluten free dough. It makes
it tough. Also, I didn't put

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any eggs in. I did my
weird egg substitutions, so the recipe was

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like half original and half Drew's concoction. Yeah, but they turned out.

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I'm I got like a dozen,
and I just scooped the filling out the

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left over field because you should have
extra filling right at that point. Yeah,

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it's still my frage. I'm just
gonna just getting you're lean beef.

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Yeah, there you go, just
throw some pork gander and yeah, or

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sawdust guacamole stuff. I didn't do
guacamole. I don't eat parogui, so

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what else can I eat? I
do? But I'm playing a character.

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There was mac and cheese. Somebody
bringing that? Yep, actually it was

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gluten freeze. Well wow, a
couple of chocolate e treats, like the

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ones with the like the checks mix
and you toss it in the chocolate and

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then the powdered sugar. Okay,
sure, yes, yes, yeah,

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uh, let's give it a name. What's that thing called spiders dirty rascal

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or something like something for dirty Rascal
like Jews, party checks mixteen, Choco

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Rex, Chaco Rex. Yeah,
some chocolate bars also, uh? And

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homemade pizza. I love homemade pizza. Yeah, how much of that?

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Was there? Three pies like twelve
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Uh? Like that? What is
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and a order? I know that? Liked exactly. It sounds like a

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party. You had people over fifteen
people. Do you have alcohol? Oh?

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Yes, you have cider? Yes? Do you have a kig?

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No? Would you? They would
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walls, ceiling, end or floor? It's the big game? Yes?

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Yeah, they played at one.
They played at halftime liquor? How can

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we taste so good? Was there
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But it was in and out.
Did you have a bathroom by the

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end? Uh? Just you have
just one smoking the tub looks pretty right.

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Oh I didn't need to hear joke. Yeah sure, you can't back

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special parrog gros. Yeah sure,
it's been fun, but I gotta walk

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the dog. Yeah. Yeah,
so you guys later. Thanks? Say

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how to brown Liquid? Yeah?
So do you do anything video game related?

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Well? Did you enjoyed it?
Regardless of the game. It sounds

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like a good time for friends,
family food. Yeah. Uh, did

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you do any video game stuff?
Not this weekend, but I did play

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for a quick look last week Black
Guards. Yeah you did. Taking place

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in the Dark Eyes the Dark Eye
universe? Dark Eye? Is it Dark

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Eye? Is it one of the
German ones? Yes? Yeah, I

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think it is. So it was
the they did. What was the one

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that was based off the Aurora engine
stuff? Oh yeah, Dragon sang to

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be sure? Is that Dark Eye? The one we did was Chains of

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santitav Yes, that was the adventure. Adventure was based in that universe.

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Santata have a location or a person's
which you used to get your hands really

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clean. I thought that was the
bad guy from Hell Raiser. Yeah,

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sure, it depends Yeah, Sanitas
German, Santa C, santab something that

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comes with like two pages of advertisement
says that it will kill you well experience.

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It does treat dark eye. I
thought it was the stuff you put

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in the dishwasher that makes your your
glasses rents clean. Sure, yeah,

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it's better, but it's not good
for the environment, don't. That was

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a that's a turn based hex.
Yeah, go get it. It's kind

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of ex COMI with swords with swords
yeah, and bows and magic. But

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man, it's it's pretty much when
you go to a character sheet and try

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to upgrade your dude, it's like
hardcore D and D. Oh, man,

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I'm in you are you actually it
actually says character sheet, Yeah,

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and I tell you're gonna say it
said buy it, Dave. And it's

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got your dice. It's got like
your hit is not a number. It

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is a number. But then it
also says like, hey, what do

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you say your weapon is like yeah, this is like this is like pen

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and paper German D and D.
Yeah, I think you sent me.

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The wiki article on it was like
the most popular fantasy board game in D

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and D and then went out of
the other than D and D went out

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of business in like nineteen eighty nine
and like got one bankrupt, and I

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was like that stinks. If you're
the most popular thing in a country you

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still go out of business. Yeah, I got sorry, no wen,

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I got an orange set and grace
what you get? What are you get

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in that? You got one D
six, one D four? I got

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full sets? Die right. I
had one set. And so I've been

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playing with these like hardcore D and
D guys and they come over with like

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like they just have so much gear
from their like childhood and stuff, like

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all these kind of craps, and
I was like, wait a second,

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you're throwing like two dice. Oh
I could be doing I could be making

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my role so much faster if I
had sure the whole staff you had bought

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someone we played. I just had
like as set. You can but you

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can go, like you can go
to one of those checks mix or whatever

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the places chest six cho Rock,
the place that sells my god. I

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bought some dollars and you can just
buy a sack of like shiploads of deaths

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eight dollars. They need to be
themed towards my character. Yeah, well

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you got both. You get the
pound to die, and then you got

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the I pay twenty dollars for a
pound of dice when I could pay?

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But hey, can you can you? Uh? I don't want to out

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anybody here, but can I hear
some of the character names from your group?

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Sure? There's uh. My character's
name is Krell. Okay, he

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is a half orc pirate. Okay, who uh is? Uh? He's

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a storm lord Silent, He's a
weather domain. And you guys are playing

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Pathfinder. We're playing path Finder?
Okay? Yes, all right? Who

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else is there? I want to
guess what they are? You don't even

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remember your team. I can't even
blank out. You can't even remember Ian's

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character's name. Do you have anybody
with a name that ends an I?

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E? En? If my name
was Ian, all my characters would always

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end an A. His are always
like John's sword magic or his are always

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like lawyers that somehow gets trapped in
the plane universe. Like that's what he's

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playing, like Bill cast a spell? Yeah? Exactly, yeah, James

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Casino, all right, well,
Calvin Kelvin's and Archer okay and Elf Archer?

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How many dudes during your party?
We have four? And then we

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have a really hardcore DM. Do
you hire him? Uh? We did

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not hire him. He uh weirdly
enough is like my neighbor that is weird,

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super weird is really weird. But
he comes like super prepared with the

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maps your relationship. Don't make your
neighbor and your DM. We play for

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eight hours. Jesus, he lived
right next door eight hours. How do

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you pay back that child sitting debt? With bluegrass? The currency of yeah,

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okay, two bluegrass sessions gets he
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No, but it in the garage
everybody poker table. Uh, every

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now we do it in our kitchen. Everybody's got like chips and beer and

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it's as silly as you. That's
fun. But it sounds like, yeah,

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Drew, So what do you have
to say about the Dark Eye slash

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Blackguard? They don't didn't do such
a great job of explaining like how all

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the character stuff works, or really
how you should upgrade a dude because I

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was getting XP but I had no
idea where I'm putting because there's like five

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when you going to upgrade your guy, there's like five different tabs, each

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with a different skill tree. It
looked like when we were in Pathfinder,

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like those skill books, I had
no idea where to go, but I

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liked the combat. Uh, and
the story was you know fine. Yeah,

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the voice acting seemed totally reasonable.
Yeah, you know, it seemed

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like a fun thing to kind of
propel you through the game. So I

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don't know. If I had more
time, maybe I would dedicate some hours

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sitting down and figuring it all out. Sure, but it's fun to play.

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Yeah, Dave, you should check
it out. I think it's Ripprey.

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Did you anything else rocking? Oh? Not really, we're chilling.

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No, then let's go on.
It's a mister shoemaker. Mister Shoemaker,

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you had yourselves a little little weekend
fun I did. Yeah, Oh it

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did. I could tell you came
in this morning. I'll chipper and happy,

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ready to go radiant? Oh yeah, yeah, Brad's pregnant. It's

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a super Bowl yesterday, Yeah,
the big game. Did you do anything

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for it? Sat on the couch
and drank and but you did watch it?

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Yeah? Okay, about halfway through
I wish I hadn't. It's always

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the best kind of super slowly regret
sitting there. It was just a terrible

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game. Moment was over, halfway
through there was a there was a moment

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when Jerry and George came out and
talked about why they weren't at the right

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party. I don't know. Pretty
good commercials totally worked for me. Oh,

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I don't think it worked, but
you know it was better than the

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football game. Like, yeah,
I guess that's true. Well, there

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you go. I guess enjoyment through
schadenfreude at the Super Bowl. Yea,

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we Jerry Sidefeld has gotten old.
We bet a lot interesting like like like

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there's a not string bets, uh
hedge bets or they call it. There's

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a word for this in Vegas when
you go to Vegas and you go to

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the sports book and you're betting on
like I bet that somebody will make a

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three point shot in the next forty
sixty one sixty to one that there'd be

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a safety in the as the first
school. Actually, one of my walls

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is all that big led screen with
all the bets on itself. It's not

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like a side belt sidelines kind of
side. But there's a specific word for

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it. People have real gambling problems
will know immediately. I can't remember you

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see did you see did you see
Mark Cuban tweeting that he made twenty million

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dollars off that game. From what, wait, isn't that illegal? Off

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that game? It was? It
was specifically that he doesn't own the Broncos

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or the Seahawks. Doesn't he?
Yeah, doesn't, doesn't he? I

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forget how it worked out, but
it was it was that safety on that

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first play or whatever. I don't
know football that well, but whatever it

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was, he had bet like a
million dollars on that. Exactly what's he

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gonna do that? Like that exact
thing happening? It was sixty It was

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sixty to one that there would be
a safety as the first score. Okay,

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do you reach a position in your
life you're like, I'm gonna bet

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a million dollars? It might have
been less. The better question is how

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do you get to that point in
your life where you then brag about it.

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That's probably the same guy. I'm
gonna say. It's probably around the

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ten to fifteen million mark. You
think it's don't really work anymore, and

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and before you get to hey,
I'll pay you to so I can ship

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in your mouth. Yeah, exactly. I was at Drew the Department in

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the tub, and now I just
won twenty million dollars shift the tub doesn't

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do it from to make it interesting? Yeah, yeah, I'll give you

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ten. And I was like,
just shit in your mouth right now and

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then say then the other guy probably
doesn't post on Twitter. That's like I

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just made ten million dollars off that
Super Bowl. That guy just kind of

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walks away. Invest that what you're
saying, is it Mark Cuban. Somebody's

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shitting in his mouth for seventy million
dollars. I'm not saying that you did.

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But thanks for the update. And
that's will Smith Lays and gentlemen you

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can find and I've seen it.
Yeah, brat Shoemaker. What else did

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you have going on? Oh man? What didn't I have going on?

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Okay, video games, everything,
everything. Didn't do anything this week?

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Now, that's great. Did you
would you eat? I only ordered pizza

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one night? And did you order
too much? You get a little bit

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of a bachelor weekend? I was
by myself. That's great. I don't

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know, it wasn't as it wasn't
quite as liberating as I thought it would

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be. Yeah, you're finding as
you get older, you're just you're not

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indulging as much. No, it's
not even that so much as it's been

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so long that it just made me
realize how much the other person is doing.

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Oh I see, okay, you
know what I mean. Yeah,

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it's all of a sudden, it's
like, wait a minute, now I

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have to do everything. Like,
man, I've been living with somebody for

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a long time, and the magic
laundry nomes aren't coming anymore. What the

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hell? Kind of like they go
away too. Yeah, oh man,

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this bathroom stinks. It was Yeah, it was like it was I guess,

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just a perfect storm of like,
well, this hasn't been done in

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a while, and this hasn't been
done in a while, and there's no

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more money in my savings. But
I spent like half the weekend doing doing

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laundry, and of course we're shopping
and cleaning and stuff like that. Yeah,

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but a little time to remember how
much you appreciate your love to win

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absolutely is worth it's weight in gold. It's better than odeeing on pizza.

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Dave Snyder played I'm sorry it back. I thought that I didn't do anything,

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but it summed up pretty much what
you did this weekend that is just

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sitting around playing videos. Okay,
so what'd you play. I put a

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little more time in the dark Souls. Not a whole lot, okay,

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but the one thing that I did
was trying to go back to the asylum.

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And did you so? Some he
had tied on the asylums where you

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start, right, yeah, and
the demon there is horrible Uh th you

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mean the second one, the one
that you fight at the end of the

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tutorial mission. Oh no, well
there's another version of that thing that you

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fight when you get back, you
know, I know, yes, how

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did you get back there? So
somebody had tipped me off there, like,

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hey, there's a ring in the
asylum. You should go get since

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you're heading into blight Town and it'll
make things a lot easier. Tip.

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So I started talking to you about
it, and I was like, well,

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I ran around and I saw that
crow. Yeah, there's got to

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be a way to get back there. What am I supposed to do?

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Yeah? What did I say?
And you were like, I think you

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actually you wanted to tell me,
right, I said. Another friend of

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mine had had said like, when
I asked him what to do is look

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around? He was like, figure
it out. I think I gave you

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a tip, right, I gave
you another hint you started to or you

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said, you said, like,
you'll never figure this out. It's incredibly

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obtuse. It's pretty let me just
tell you what to do. I think

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I said there's a nest somewhere.
Yeah, it wasn't that. Well.

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I think it's pretty fucking obscure,
pretty crazy. You have to jump off

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of something onto something else. Yeah, you have to jump off of several

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things. And that's part elevator down
from the cathedral. Yeah. So yeah,

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you're writing an elevator and you have
to step off at the right time

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to land on a certain ledge.
Yeah, that part's not the obtuse part

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you're frying. You're right, that
part is is relatively self explanatory compared to

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what comes after that. Yeah,
and this is not spoiler. You have

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to curl up there. You get
to a nest, you find like a

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big old nest somewhere, and then
there's a prompt when you walk in it

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that says curl up yes, and
you're like, okay, you do that

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exactly, and then you sit there
for like a minute. How do you

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do that? It's just it's a
button. And then you sit there for

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maybe thirty seconds or a minute.
Nothing happens. So you can hit beads

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to get out of it and walk
away. But if you wait there for

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like a minute in one second,
then like a birdle come jack crow comes

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and grabs you and take you back
to this island. So so when I

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got there, when I was playing, the prompt never came up. So

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I just was like, well,
fuck, maybe I have to wait like

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an hour, so I just left
it running. When did the dishes wash,

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the laundry came back? Nope,
nothing man had to reload. It's

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just the the insane number of steps
between like jumping off the elevator at the

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right time and setting up to the
nest. Yeah, but that stuff is

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fine for me. It's like if
you know where to go. When you

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look at it, it's like,
all right, yeah, I guess I

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can see how I jump onto that
pillar and then run across this roof.

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But like you're fighting the level geometry
the whole way and like mechanics that are

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not platform. Yeah, it's like
it's a it's a real pain in the

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has to make that jump and then
you have to like roll up hill that

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you can't run up at one point. But the thing that is good about

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that. I was just talking to
my little brother about this because he was

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doing it as well. You know, there are items up there. You

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can see that there's a way to
get up there. This is intentional for

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to put the player up there.
It's not a glitch or something like that.

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So you're like, well, how
do I get those items? I

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need to be able to get up
there. So that drives that whole thing

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to curl up in a ball and
not immediately have a reward for doing so.

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I think it is the kind of
tougher pure. I wonder if they's

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shortened that because I don't feel like
I sat there that long. It kind

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of just shave me. I mean, it just felt like that for me.

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I don't know throughout that whole process, And eventually I just looked up

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what to do because fuck running around
in that area for an hour trying to

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figure it out. Yeah, but
at some point I started questioning It's like,

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why am I sitting here doing this? I see that this game is

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so up its own ass sometimes,
so I found that as part of my

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natural like I want to collect all
of the dumb shit. No, just

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because once I was up there,
it was like, oh yeah, maybe

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there's something more around this corner.
Yeah, and then there's a butt the

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you know, but yeah, no, I totally did you beat the Turn

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of the Asylum dad. I didn't
have time to play a whole lot after

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he'd beat my ass on as soon
as I got think it gonna be pretty

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that crazy magic attack that hits you
like in a like a one hundred and

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eighty degree arc in front of you
or whatever. So he was really tough.

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I don't remember finding him when I
first was playing, and it was

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it was I had an exceptionally hard
time. You know, getting behind him

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is obviously where you want to be, right, and that's exactly exactly when

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you're his big old rump. He
dignified rump is when he's got all he's

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got a lot of dignity things.
Yeah, it's always dignity in the backside.

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And what do you do with dignity? You squish you when you do

407
00:25:51.960 --> 00:25:56.519
a sitting attack, or sometimes he
just whales his dignity around and hits you.

408
00:25:56.799 --> 00:25:57.680
I don't know if you can get
to a bonfire there. But like

409
00:25:57.680 --> 00:26:00.000
when i'd lost to him the first
time and realized I was gonna have to

410
00:26:00.000 --> 00:26:04.359
do platforming, bullshit again. There
is a bonfire, right okay, right

411
00:26:04.400 --> 00:26:07.599
on the right when you're going on
the road, I'll see, okay,

412
00:26:07.599 --> 00:26:10.920
because when you're watch when you're okay, yeah, because because when you're run

413
00:26:10.960 --> 00:26:11.880
back in there, you know,
the floor just collapses when you walk,

414
00:26:11.920 --> 00:26:15.440
you know that. So all right, I'll hug the wall next time and

415
00:26:15.480 --> 00:26:18.079
see how that goes. Did you
do anything else a video game? A

416
00:26:18.200 --> 00:26:22.680
wise? I cracked into Fable Anniversary
and what is new in Fable? What's

417
00:26:22.839 --> 00:26:25.440
what's cracking in Fable? It looks
better? Yeah, I guess they ported

418
00:26:25.440 --> 00:26:27.400
it to the Fable one. Yeah, that's the first game. Wown came

419
00:26:27.440 --> 00:26:30.720
out on the Xbox right, yeah, g Xbox and two thousand and four.

420
00:26:32.000 --> 00:26:33.359
I thought it was an older game
than that, but it was like

421
00:26:33.839 --> 00:26:37.599
towards the end of the original Xbox, right before the three sixty came out.

422
00:26:37.079 --> 00:26:41.319
And is this is? Is they
a face lefter or mechanics? I

423
00:26:41.319 --> 00:26:42.920
guess they. I guess they must
apported its unreal because there's a big fat

424
00:26:42.960 --> 00:26:45.519
unreal engine logo at the beginning.
What was it? I don't know.

425
00:26:47.000 --> 00:26:51.640
I thought it was head Engine before. Yeah, you know, it looks

426
00:26:51.680 --> 00:26:53.440
it looks okay, still have the
crazy long tutorial. I just remember they

427
00:26:53.440 --> 00:26:57.319
can really long, like when you
play as the child. Yeah, yeah,

428
00:26:57.359 --> 00:27:00.319
yeah, yeah you yes, you
definitely still go through all of that.

429
00:27:00.480 --> 00:27:03.680
Run Run, Run, Run,
Run Run Run. Chicken. Well,

430
00:27:03.680 --> 00:27:08.000
you're the chicken chaser, but that's
after you chicken chase, Chicken Chase,

431
00:27:08.319 --> 00:27:11.519
Chicken Chase, have a chicken chase. He doesn't look much like a

432
00:27:11.599 --> 00:27:18.319
chicken chasing Chicken chase chicken Chase.
Why I stopped? That game has such

433
00:27:18.319 --> 00:27:22.000
a dumb, quirky charm to it. Is it still cheeky? Yes?

434
00:27:22.279 --> 00:27:26.279
Like I from what I've played of
it so far, I feel like it's

435
00:27:26.319 --> 00:27:30.240
the most fably of all the Fable
games. But I really didn't play much

436
00:27:30.240 --> 00:27:33.119
of two, so I guess I
thought it was the good one. Yeah,

437
00:27:33.000 --> 00:27:36.680
can't say that with authority, but
like, I guess this one has

438
00:27:36.680 --> 00:27:38.240
more personality to it than I remember. Did you play three? Yeah?

439
00:27:38.240 --> 00:27:41.480
I remember, I had. Okay, I had a slow through that whole

440
00:27:41.480 --> 00:27:45.279
thing. For a review, I
thought three was maybe the weakest. Absolutely,

441
00:27:45.319 --> 00:27:48.160
I don't think anybody would disagree with
that. But I like the multiplayer

442
00:27:48.160 --> 00:27:52.480
stuff into a lot with you miss
that because you were Yeah, but I

443
00:27:52.519 --> 00:27:56.200
think I trade dolls. I'm kind
of into this though, actually think I'm

444
00:27:56.200 --> 00:27:59.240
gonna keep playing it for a while. Fable one, I think, I

445
00:27:59.279 --> 00:28:02.480
think, I think this first one
holds up better than I would have expected.

446
00:28:02.599 --> 00:28:03.920
Is it a three sixty game?
Yeah, it's three sixty, you

447
00:28:03.960 --> 00:28:07.000
know it looks good? Like I
wait, this is Fable HD on three

448
00:28:07.079 --> 00:28:11.640
sixty? The hell are we doing
here? Wasting times? Really weird?

449
00:28:11.720 --> 00:28:15.720
Fired up that console? It's been
weeks. Well, why they released an

450
00:28:15.799 --> 00:28:19.640
HD remake on a previous gen system. That's where all the people are.

451
00:28:21.000 --> 00:28:23.480
But then, let I just can't
get another Fable trilogy on the Xbox.

452
00:28:23.839 --> 00:28:27.599
Well they're making They're supposedly making a
new Fable for Xbox One, but I

453
00:28:27.640 --> 00:28:33.000
thought we were talking about video games, not baby toys. Something. Something

454
00:28:33.000 --> 00:28:34.799
about this one feels like it's the
most free wheeling of the Fables, you

455
00:28:34.799 --> 00:28:37.640
know, I feel I feel like
the focus was young and young and buck

456
00:28:37.720 --> 00:28:41.079
Fable well that, but like the
focus was still just on Hey, do

457
00:28:41.079 --> 00:28:44.799
you want to have an angel halo
or devil horns? For sure? You

458
00:28:44.799 --> 00:28:47.880
know what I mean. It's it's
like that game is just like morality slider

459
00:28:47.880 --> 00:28:51.119
of the game. You know,
It's like here's two versions of the quest.

460
00:28:51.119 --> 00:28:53.359
Do you want to protect the farm
or or fuck it up? Like

461
00:28:53.480 --> 00:28:56.279
just just straight up? Do you
want to be a good guy or back

462
00:28:56.039 --> 00:28:59.319
too? Yeah, but he didn't
play Usually if you sink your teeth into

463
00:28:59.319 --> 00:29:00.799
this one, you should prob check
out too. I've always thought about going

464
00:29:00.799 --> 00:29:03.920
back and playing two. I wish
they had done a PC version of it

465
00:29:03.960 --> 00:29:07.400
though, And two I think I
think the story continues a little more.

466
00:29:07.880 --> 00:29:10.880
So, Yeah, like playing this
now because like I think they check of

467
00:29:11.000 --> 00:29:15.839
your sister is Teresa or Teresa?
Yeah as a child? Who? I

468
00:29:15.839 --> 00:29:19.759
think it's kind of the central figure
of fable right, uh? Fable three

469
00:29:21.000 --> 00:29:23.720
definitely, or at least two.
Hell man, I kind of can't remember

470
00:29:23.759 --> 00:29:26.119
the fable though. I don't know. Story never seemed like the focus there.

471
00:29:26.160 --> 00:29:30.079
But anyway, I think this thing
is maybe better than I expected it

472
00:29:30.119 --> 00:29:30.799
to be. That's cool. We'll
be doing a quick look at that right.

473
00:29:30.799 --> 00:29:33.000
Oh yeah, there should be a
quick look up. Not anymore.

474
00:29:33.039 --> 00:29:37.000
I didn't really gotta go three sixty
out packed those away? Yeah? Did

475
00:29:37.039 --> 00:29:41.839
you really go to put them in? Howk I think Jeff got money for

476
00:29:41.880 --> 00:29:45.920
this trip? Yeah? Still they're
still progies, don't come cheap, still

477
00:29:45.920 --> 00:29:48.680
games coming out, all those things, It's true, and as three,

478
00:29:48.680 --> 00:29:52.039
I still got him hunked up in
the house. Dark Souls coming out,

479
00:29:52.279 --> 00:29:55.400
Yeah, there's a few games.
And have you made a progress in Banner

480
00:29:55.440 --> 00:29:57.039
Saga? No, no, it's
kind of taking that off the table.

481
00:29:57.119 --> 00:30:00.599
I tried to play it the day
it came out, and it just didn't

482
00:30:00.599 --> 00:30:03.319
grab me. I played the multi
player version of that game when it came

483
00:30:03.319 --> 00:30:07.559
out before it was it seems it
seems well made. I want to check

484
00:30:07.599 --> 00:30:10.920
it out. Yeah, yeah,
you might get you know, more free

485
00:30:10.920 --> 00:30:12.519
time. You might be into it, but I don't know. I just

486
00:30:12.640 --> 00:30:15.640
didn't really pull me along. You
didn't have a pause. You couldn't pause

487
00:30:15.680 --> 00:30:23.240
it, you couldn't stop it convenient
times when I played that game. Yeah

488
00:30:23.839 --> 00:30:30.880
that one man, honey, you're
see if your dad can help see?

489
00:30:30.039 --> 00:30:34.680
No, No, that Yeah,
I haven't had that. I got it.

490
00:30:34.720 --> 00:30:37.799
I'll be there just a minute.
So I've been playing some more dark

491
00:30:37.839 --> 00:30:40.839
shows and I haven't had to have
that excuse. I feel like since I

492
00:30:40.880 --> 00:30:44.799
was like twelve, of like,
I just needed to hit the same point.

493
00:30:45.240 --> 00:30:48.079
I just I just need to go
say if I can't, I can't

494
00:30:48.119 --> 00:30:52.160
write. Yeah, I'll be there
in like ten minutes. I there's no

495
00:30:52.200 --> 00:30:56.559
pause. I care if I don't
say I lose two hours. It's only

496
00:30:56.640 --> 00:31:03.799
two hours right now. It's getting
at anytime. I'm alive. You need

497
00:31:03.839 --> 00:31:07.359
to come right now. It's like
walking over holding a controller, like making

498
00:31:07.400 --> 00:31:11.960
my way over the kid in the
car with us or not? Are you?

499
00:31:12.039 --> 00:31:15.400
Are you still there? You?
Okay? Okay, now I'm really

500
00:31:15.400 --> 00:31:19.079
coming anyway. Don't just shot on
the floor. Okay, that wasn't the

501
00:31:19.160 --> 00:31:25.279
dog. I gotta go. Uh
Dave, what's up? Would you play

502
00:31:25.559 --> 00:31:30.039
in the last two years? No, so exactly in the uh uh,

503
00:31:30.240 --> 00:31:34.200
specifically to that point. I've been
playing a lot of Heartstone because it's the

504
00:31:34.279 --> 00:31:40.640
perfect you know, like seven minute
game. You asked me this, I

505
00:31:40.680 --> 00:31:44.880
know, but they don't listen to
that podcast. What's a hearthstone? Uh?

506
00:31:45.079 --> 00:31:51.839
Heart What is a hearthstone? Hearth
is a is a fire and yeah.

507
00:31:52.039 --> 00:31:53.839
Home is where the hearth is.
Yeah, and then where's the home.

508
00:31:55.200 --> 00:31:56.839
It's inside the home at home is
where the hearth is. Yeah.

509
00:31:57.799 --> 00:32:01.319
Uh So I've been playing that,
which has been fun. You can take

510
00:32:01.359 --> 00:32:05.160
that one Blizzard if you want.
That's free. I play a little bit

511
00:32:05.200 --> 00:32:07.480
of it. I really enjoyed.
I like it a lot. I guys

512
00:32:07.519 --> 00:32:15.720
like CCGs. I'm you know,
guys down I like CGS. The collectible

513
00:32:15.759 --> 00:32:19.039
parts really damaging for people with issues
like me, so I don't play those

514
00:32:19.039 --> 00:32:21.920
games. But this one's not so
bad. I feel like you get I

515
00:32:21.920 --> 00:32:25.759
think that and and Soul Forge have
have kind of done that really well,

516
00:32:25.799 --> 00:32:29.440
and that you don't need to.
It's like Magic where you gotta buy everything

517
00:32:29.480 --> 00:32:31.920
and to be good. It's sort
of integrated into you. Definitely, they're

518
00:32:31.960 --> 00:32:37.000
auto matching stuff is pretty good.
The Arena concept is super smart. What's

519
00:32:37.039 --> 00:32:42.119
that? Explain to me what this
is? So the Arena is a card

520
00:32:42.119 --> 00:32:45.160
game in the vein of Magic.
Yeah, and it's from Blizzard, so

521
00:32:45.359 --> 00:32:49.920
it's all World Warcraft themed and the
basis of it or hey, it's a

522
00:32:49.920 --> 00:32:52.519
collectible card game and it's free.
It's free right now. It's an open

523
00:32:52.559 --> 00:32:57.720
beta. Uh you can. It's
got some micro transactions in there so that

524
00:32:57.759 --> 00:33:01.200
you buy packs if you want,
but there's nothing stopping you from They'll give

525
00:33:01.200 --> 00:33:06.960
you quests each day, so you
always get like three new quests and then

526
00:33:07.000 --> 00:33:08.880
you can complete those. It doesn't
really take very long to complete them,

527
00:33:08.920 --> 00:33:14.119
probably about a half hour and then
me an example of a quest. Quests

528
00:33:14.119 --> 00:33:19.839
will be like win three games as
a paladin or destroy forty millions, so

529
00:33:19.960 --> 00:33:23.880
like they're all super achievable things that
you can do just three like objectives,

530
00:33:23.960 --> 00:33:27.799
and most of the time you're completing
the quest just as you're normally playing,

531
00:33:27.839 --> 00:33:32.240
even if you're not specifically trying to
complete a quest. And then that basically

532
00:33:32.240 --> 00:33:37.519
awards you a money system, and
that money system can then be used to

533
00:33:37.680 --> 00:33:43.000
buy packs which will give you new
cards, or you can use it to

534
00:33:43.160 --> 00:33:47.759
enter the arena. And what is
the arena. The arena is a blind

535
00:33:50.359 --> 00:33:52.880
you know, it's like a blind
buy in, so you'll pay your money.

536
00:33:53.559 --> 00:33:59.279
They'll then give you thirty sets of
three cards. Each. You pick

537
00:33:59.359 --> 00:34:01.319
one of those three cards because it's
out of all the cards you own.

538
00:34:01.519 --> 00:34:06.480
No, it's random, which is
why it's great because everybody has the same

539
00:34:06.559 --> 00:34:09.679
random cards. Wait, there's no
collectible bullshit exactly. Oh that's wait,

540
00:34:09.679 --> 00:34:13.400
I'm sorry, I lost the thread. Here. I go to the arena

541
00:34:13.440 --> 00:34:16.840
and there are thirty sets of they
give you. The first thing they'll do

542
00:34:16.920 --> 00:34:21.079
is they just show you three cards. They say, here's the cards.

543
00:34:21.159 --> 00:34:22.800
They'll say, here are three cards
which one of these three do you want?

544
00:34:22.920 --> 00:34:24.760
It's a fate, you know,
what's the value of it? I

545
00:34:24.840 --> 00:34:29.280
want you can see all three of
them the over exactly, and then you

546
00:34:29.320 --> 00:34:32.840
do that twenty nine more times and
you have a stake. Uh, not

547
00:34:32.920 --> 00:34:37.440
very long. Why would you alternate
with the other person. No, you're

548
00:34:37.480 --> 00:34:38.920
only doing it for yourself. So
they so it's not like they pick one

549
00:34:38.960 --> 00:34:42.239
and you pick one, and then
you pick one and they pick one exactly.

550
00:34:42.400 --> 00:34:45.320
You're just doing this and then you
keep playing in the arena with that

551
00:34:45.400 --> 00:34:50.760
set of cards until you lose three
times. And does everybody have the same

552
00:34:50.760 --> 00:34:52.159
sets of three to choose from when
they're in the arena at the same time.

553
00:34:52.719 --> 00:34:57.159
Uh, they went through the same
process that you did. They may

554
00:34:57.159 --> 00:35:00.039
have picked a different class, right, Uh, and they obviously pick different

555
00:35:00.039 --> 00:35:06.239
cards than you did. So it
makes it hard because you know, like

556
00:35:06.400 --> 00:35:09.480
most collectible card games, the cards
can go together well as a theme.

557
00:35:09.679 --> 00:35:14.760
Right. You have Murlock Rush decks, which are like if you put all

558
00:35:14.760 --> 00:35:17.280
your Mrlocks together, you you know, they kind of have a fast attack

559
00:35:17.360 --> 00:35:23.760
and synergize. So yeah, exactly, Verticals the blind the blind deck then

560
00:35:24.000 --> 00:35:27.480
makes it hard to do that kind
of stuff, and it makes it so

561
00:35:28.159 --> 00:35:31.440
they've sort of equalized the collectible side
of it, which makes it there's no

562
00:35:31.480 --> 00:35:35.920
way to bring your stuff into this
correct, What is your money getting you?

563
00:35:36.039 --> 00:35:38.599
Just entrance into the area just gets
you entrance into the arena for three

564
00:35:38.800 --> 00:35:44.320
till you lose three times depending upon
how many times you win before you've lost

565
00:35:44.320 --> 00:35:49.440
those three times, uh nets you
a better prize Like all card or the

566
00:35:49.599 --> 00:35:58.239
prizes are usually crafting material more actual
money that you could then go in against

567
00:35:58.320 --> 00:36:02.519
the arena and card packs cool and
the card packs could be you know,

568
00:36:02.559 --> 00:36:06.599
they tend to be better card packs, you know, the more you've won.

569
00:36:07.199 --> 00:36:09.880
That sounds really interesting if you if
you bounce out immediately, if I

570
00:36:09.920 --> 00:36:14.719
lose three consecutive matches, will the
prize pretty much be less than the value

571
00:36:14.760 --> 00:36:17.880
that I would have gotten than using
that money to buy it's a hundred gold

572
00:36:19.000 --> 00:36:22.000
or whatever to just buy a pack. It's one hundred and fifty gold to

573
00:36:22.000 --> 00:36:24.559
get in the arena, got it? You will automatically get a pack out

574
00:36:24.599 --> 00:36:30.719
of probably pretty sure poopy. So
you always it's always in your best interest,

575
00:36:30.920 --> 00:36:34.000
at least from what I've seen,
to play the arena and do it

576
00:36:34.159 --> 00:36:37.119
interesting. Can you leave an arena, run and come back. Yes,

577
00:36:37.280 --> 00:36:40.280
okay, so get out yep,
and so it'll be you just go back

578
00:36:40.320 --> 00:36:45.280
to the arena and it's like you
lost one time, previously you won seven

579
00:36:45.320 --> 00:36:49.119
times. Keep playing till you lose. That's pretty smart and it's interesting that

580
00:36:49.280 --> 00:36:51.880
what uh, what was I gonna
ask? Like, what's the value of

581
00:36:51.920 --> 00:36:53.920
gold? Like what is one hundred
and fifty gold? It's like like there's

582
00:36:53.960 --> 00:36:59.119
no, you don't buy gold,
you just it's you can buy packs,

583
00:36:59.679 --> 00:37:01.480
okay, where you could buy an
entrance into the arena if I were to,

584
00:37:01.519 --> 00:37:05.880
if I would ask you what is
the real world currency? Dollars for

585
00:37:06.079 --> 00:37:07.840
one hundred and yeah, two dollars. So it's like a couple bucks to

586
00:37:07.880 --> 00:37:10.800
play gets you into the arena,
gets you into the arena, or you

587
00:37:10.800 --> 00:37:15.280
could just play for thirty minutes and
get into the arena. And he's saying,

588
00:37:15.320 --> 00:37:21.000
my time is not thirty minutes of
my time is not worth so you

589
00:37:21.079 --> 00:37:24.639
end up playing and it's totally like
it's not cheesy at all. It seems

590
00:37:24.719 --> 00:37:30.400
like a really smart system. Down
timers. They've count down timers, yeah

591
00:37:30.440 --> 00:37:34.559
to play yeah, like eachan yes, yeah, okay, they have they

592
00:37:34.599 --> 00:37:37.559
have a pretty clever mechanic too with
it. The weird things that they have

593
00:37:37.760 --> 00:37:42.639
are you can't chat with the other
player. That's nice for the best they

594
00:37:42.679 --> 00:37:46.760
learned that one. Right click your
character and it brings up six emotes like

595
00:37:46.840 --> 00:37:53.880
what uh like, well played?
Is your character saying yeah nice? Or

596
00:37:54.480 --> 00:38:00.519
uh that was a mistake? Nice? You just span that one constantly really

597
00:38:00.519 --> 00:38:06.000
getting at his head. Yeah,
so greetings you know all that? Anybody

598
00:38:06.039 --> 00:38:07.519
ever do them? Yeah? You
do it like when you see a guy

599
00:38:07.559 --> 00:38:13.119
do a really clever move, You'll
be like, wells uh do you can

600
00:38:13.119 --> 00:38:15.920
you buy new ones? Uh?
That seems like something they would find new

601
00:38:15.920 --> 00:38:20.400
greeting stone. Yet okay, none
of that stuff. The crafting really only

602
00:38:20.440 --> 00:38:24.280
gets you. Like you can disenchant
your cards, like destroy cards to make

603
00:38:24.440 --> 00:38:30.119
other cards. Uh. And you
can also just upgrade your cards to be

604
00:38:30.239 --> 00:38:34.440
the like tin foil version of a
card. But nothing, it just looks

605
00:38:34.599 --> 00:38:37.920
it's ten. Yeah, so uh
can you Uh? How is it like

606
00:38:37.960 --> 00:38:42.239
battlenet? How do you find your
friends? Your friends are on there?

607
00:38:42.320 --> 00:38:47.239
You can put as part of the
options to like automatically overwrite the automatching system

608
00:38:47.320 --> 00:38:50.719
so that you play your friends,
which you may not want to do because

609
00:38:50.719 --> 00:38:52.880
they could be a lot better than
you. Do you want to tell people

610
00:38:52.920 --> 00:38:54.519
how to find you? Or do
you want to keep that a secret until

611
00:38:54.559 --> 00:38:59.880
you show up and stomp them.
I'm on, I'm on battle Mat Okay,

612
00:39:00.039 --> 00:39:01.559
it's I want to go play you. I want to go figure out.

613
00:39:01.639 --> 00:39:05.519
Yeah you can, you can play
me. Yeah, It's it's fun.

614
00:39:05.880 --> 00:39:09.800
Donna Dona iOS devices now mostly I
apparently I don't think it's on THEOS.

615
00:39:12.119 --> 00:39:15.039
You can definitely tell that it's a
well it's on Mac as well well,

616
00:39:15.039 --> 00:39:16.719
but I mean it's on the computers
they set up front that it would

617
00:39:16.719 --> 00:39:21.880
be coming die Yeah, and it's
a perfect game probably for like anentially Yeah,

618
00:39:21.960 --> 00:39:27.519
I thought when we looked at it
in the office we were doing when

619
00:39:28.199 --> 00:39:30.280
they first announced the game, that's
what it was coming to mobile. I

620
00:39:30.280 --> 00:39:31.440
shouldn't know. It's good. I've
played a couple of those games, like

621
00:39:31.480 --> 00:39:37.800
I played Scrolls for a bit,
which was like mojongs or their their game,

622
00:39:37.880 --> 00:39:42.559
and this one, this one's super
polished and it looked like even when

623
00:39:42.599 --> 00:39:44.280
we saw it. I mean,
I don't know if the beta has changed.

624
00:39:44.320 --> 00:39:47.239
Must when we looked at it months
ago with Rory uh like nice animations,

625
00:39:47.519 --> 00:39:52.480
nice chest opening, animation and if
you've never played a car game,

626
00:39:52.519 --> 00:39:54.599
because it's not like I'm a huge
car game player. Yeah, run it's

627
00:39:54.760 --> 00:40:00.199
super easy. They walk you through
it in the beginning. And because the

628
00:40:00.320 --> 00:40:02.840
like kind of math and stuff in
the game is you know, automated through

629
00:40:02.840 --> 00:40:07.000
the system, it's it works out. I'm it's especially for a dad.

630
00:40:07.559 --> 00:40:10.679
You just play that game like five
It's five minutes a game, so I

631
00:40:10.679 --> 00:40:15.320
can jump in and then jump out. That's what I've been playing watching Matt

632
00:40:15.360 --> 00:40:21.199
play anything that was fun. And
yeah, and then I bought I haven't

633
00:40:21.199 --> 00:40:27.079
played yet, but I bought Mike
mad Might and Magic ten the new one,

634
00:40:28.440 --> 00:40:30.039
so Mike Magic games can go all
over the place. What what Might

635
00:40:30.119 --> 00:40:34.920
magic are we getting with my Magic
ten? Uh? Well, what do

636
00:40:34.920 --> 00:40:40.360
you mean? This is their old
style like a first person uh party Bass

637
00:40:40.440 --> 00:40:45.360
games, which if you ever play
through game, Yes, this is the

638
00:40:45.400 --> 00:40:50.079
old style like nineties kind of gold
boxy, well not gold boxy, but

639
00:40:50.519 --> 00:40:53.559
that kind of era of games.
Uh the uh what's the other style of

640
00:40:53.599 --> 00:40:59.039
games? The Wizardry games or another
ones that are like it. It looks

641
00:40:59.079 --> 00:41:02.599
like a basic updated version of it
that seems real nice. Does look like

642
00:41:02.639 --> 00:41:06.559
they you know, it's a lower
price. I think they plan to make

643
00:41:06.559 --> 00:41:09.000
a lot of money off DLC stuff
and that's how they planned to keep it

644
00:41:09.039 --> 00:41:14.639
going. But who's putting those out? You know, I can't remember who

645
00:41:14.679 --> 00:41:16.519
did it. I just I was
waiting for it to come out. Everybody

646
00:41:16.599 --> 00:41:20.079
was saying like, ah, you
know, it's not there yet, so

647
00:41:20.519 --> 00:41:24.239
I figure out. You know,
what was awesome that Might Magic one,

648
00:41:24.480 --> 00:41:30.079
the weird puzzle game that came out
on the on Xbox Live. What the

649
00:41:30.079 --> 00:41:34.320
heck was the name of that,
Brad? It was awesome Clash of Heroes.

650
00:41:34.480 --> 00:41:37.480
Yeah, that was a sick yeah
game man, Yeah, it was

651
00:41:37.519 --> 00:41:42.079
a good game. It was like
a puzzle kind of like weird came a

652
00:41:42.119 --> 00:41:45.920
weird puzzle battle or kind of weird
match up. Anyway, Might Magic ten?

653
00:41:45.760 --> 00:41:50.239
Have you played the rest of them? Caught up? I played like

654
00:41:50.320 --> 00:41:52.239
six and seven back in the days. I mean, the fun parts with

655
00:41:52.480 --> 00:41:59.000
those games is really there. Super
tactic based. It's almost like playing you

656
00:41:59.039 --> 00:42:02.599
know, your traditional like Infinity Engine
style game, except everybody's there, so

657
00:42:02.760 --> 00:42:07.719
you'll normally deal with like positioning and
things. Uh. The recent game that

658
00:42:07.800 --> 00:42:10.440
would be similar to it is what
was the Real Time one that was the

659
00:42:10.440 --> 00:42:15.840
indie devs. Oh uh you played
it. I know you played it,

660
00:42:15.599 --> 00:42:22.719
the dungeon car with the puzzle.
Yeah, grim rocks think it was great.

661
00:42:22.800 --> 00:42:25.159
Yeah, so similar style games,
except uh, these games are not

662
00:42:25.280 --> 00:42:30.119
real time. It's not like but
they move in that same jaunted sure like

663
00:42:30.360 --> 00:42:34.239
you hit forward, you move forward. Have you seen one step? Have

664
00:42:34.320 --> 00:42:37.760
you seen a paper? Was a
paper sorcerware and brand, Yeah, which

665
00:42:37.800 --> 00:42:42.639
is basically like that Legend of grim
Rock, kind of Pools of Radiance Bard's

666
00:42:42.639 --> 00:42:45.480
tale style but all black and white. Kind of interesting. I saw like

667
00:42:45.519 --> 00:42:51.000
the Legend of grim Rock. Guys
are doing like a weird series, serious

668
00:42:51.159 --> 00:42:52.920
video series. I mean they're they're
making a sequel to the game. Yeah,

669
00:42:53.039 --> 00:42:54.960
no, I know that too.
They've been working on it for a

670
00:42:54.960 --> 00:42:58.719
while. Yeah. Game was was
You should play that game? And yeah,

671
00:42:58.719 --> 00:43:00.960
it was good. It's fun.
Reminded me a lot of what was

672
00:43:01.000 --> 00:43:07.840
the what was the There was a
like FMV kind of dungeon crawl like mid

673
00:43:07.960 --> 00:43:14.280
nineties. Yeah, yeah, exactly, board with Kirk Cameron. Uh.

674
00:43:15.159 --> 00:43:17.039
Oh hell. It had a little
green Yoda looking guy that popped up when

675
00:43:17.079 --> 00:43:21.000
you when you were about to get
killed by monsters that appeared in the middle

676
00:43:21.000 --> 00:43:22.880
of nowhere, but it was all
dungeon. It was a kind of game

677
00:43:22.880 --> 00:43:25.000
that you like, get out a
pad of paper and and like you need

678
00:43:25.000 --> 00:43:28.719
graph paper to make a map before. I wish I can remember what it's

679
00:43:28.719 --> 00:43:32.280
called. Is a CD game.
Let's I'll be playing this week? Anything

680
00:43:32.280 --> 00:43:37.039
else going on? Woodworking? Oh
yeah, William, we need to just

681
00:43:37.079 --> 00:43:40.519
start a woodworking podcast. Well let's
talk to Will first, because it sounds

682
00:43:40.519 --> 00:43:45.880
like Will may have been digging into
some heavy wood. Uh also, yeah,

683
00:43:45.960 --> 00:43:51.199
yeah, some real dig cherry.
So Will what have you been up

684
00:43:51.239 --> 00:43:52.639
to? Well? I think last
time I was on when we talked about

685
00:43:52.679 --> 00:43:57.280
Darksiders one, which I had just
finished up. That's a good game.

686
00:43:57.639 --> 00:44:00.920
It was great. Remember it's really
good games. See the sun was a

687
00:44:00.000 --> 00:44:04.320
real long time ago. And then
then this was the week before dark Siders

688
00:44:04.360 --> 00:44:07.880
two came out not so good.
It turns out I was a little disappointed.

689
00:44:07.920 --> 00:44:09.679
Oh no, no, I've been
playing. I played a lot of

690
00:44:09.719 --> 00:44:13.760
Blanky this week. Yeah, what
are you playing on PC? So I

691
00:44:13.800 --> 00:44:15.119
started out last when it came out
on an Xbox, and I played a

692
00:44:15.119 --> 00:44:17.719
fair amount on Xbox and got to
the point that I could kind of regularly

693
00:44:17.800 --> 00:44:22.320
get to the jungle and then started
playing other stuff instead, because I mean,

694
00:44:22.360 --> 00:44:24.440
I get past the mind get past
the minds. So I played maybe

695
00:44:24.440 --> 00:44:28.039
for a week. It's the first
level. It's the first four levels,

696
00:44:28.320 --> 00:44:30.400
thank you very much. Let's say
it's the first world. First world.

697
00:44:30.480 --> 00:44:34.159
Yeah. So I picked it back
up again, and I can get back.

698
00:44:34.239 --> 00:44:36.960
I can reliably get to the jungle. I've built a tunnel now.

699
00:44:37.159 --> 00:44:40.679
Okay, yea so helped man has
helped me out. I fulfilled all his

700
00:44:40.760 --> 00:44:45.800
needs and now I can skip the
minds and get to the jungle. And

701
00:44:45.840 --> 00:44:49.199
you're playing on whatnot PC? Okay, yeah, the personal computer? Are

702
00:44:49.199 --> 00:44:52.519
you doing the daily challenges? And
the daily challenge is a strong hook for

703
00:44:52.519 --> 00:44:55.880
me, Yeah, because I like
the I like the like the way I

704
00:44:55.880 --> 00:45:00.480
played Blanky. I'm competing against myself, right I want to I want to

705
00:45:00.519 --> 00:45:02.480
get my daily challenge. I want
to get past the minds. That's my

706
00:45:02.559 --> 00:45:05.719
goal right now. If I get
past the minds, I feel like I'm

707
00:45:05.719 --> 00:45:07.280
doing pretty good. If I get
past say, if I get to like

708
00:45:07.320 --> 00:45:10.400
the fourth level of the jungle,
I'm doing great. That's pretty good.

709
00:45:10.679 --> 00:45:14.760
But then it's a real bummer because
then he's like, I feel the chill

710
00:45:14.920 --> 00:45:16.480
from the I'm like, oh,
man, the entrance was just somewhere,

711
00:45:16.760 --> 00:45:20.239
just right there, I wouldn't find
out what tunnel Man wanted, and maybe

712
00:45:20.239 --> 00:45:22.840
this time he would help me.
A tunnel fucking tunnel man doesn't show up

713
00:45:22.840 --> 00:45:24.559
on daily challenges. It's bullshit.
Oh really, no, no tunnel Man

714
00:45:24.599 --> 00:45:28.480
on daily challenges. I don't think
it's challenge. So I've dabbled with daily

715
00:45:28.519 --> 00:45:30.599
challenges a little bit, and that
seems like a great mode for people who

716
00:45:30.679 --> 00:45:34.320
already play a lot of Splunky.
But if that's all you're ever gonna do,

717
00:45:34.360 --> 00:45:37.079
it's kind of a bummer because it
encourages you to ignore a lot of

718
00:45:37.119 --> 00:45:42.599
major part of that game. Yeah, because tunnel Man to win the challenge,

719
00:45:42.639 --> 00:45:45.800
you can't spend any money. It's
a difficult enough game that I feel

720
00:45:45.800 --> 00:45:47.599
like you should make your own challenge, like you should. You should.

721
00:45:47.639 --> 00:45:50.719
It's like, like I said,
it's like playing golf, like you're not

722
00:45:50.760 --> 00:45:52.280
going out there. And if I'm
playing golf with Tiger Woods, I'm playing

723
00:45:52.280 --> 00:45:57.559
against my handicap, not against Tiger
Woods. Play golf against Tiger Woods.

724
00:45:57.559 --> 00:46:00.360
No, never, I'd be amazing. Well I am will spid So,

725
00:46:00.480 --> 00:46:01.679
Yeah, I played played a fairmount
of Bilunky. I like that. I

726
00:46:01.719 --> 00:46:06.320
stream it sometimes if I'm up and
it's not too late, because that's what

727
00:46:06.360 --> 00:46:09.400
you do with Splunky apart. People
find this fantastic Will Smith play and they

728
00:46:09.400 --> 00:46:12.800
can just follow me on Twitter,
right, you should tweet about it at

729
00:46:12.840 --> 00:46:15.280
Will Smith on Twitter. And then
I played, Uh, let's see my

730
00:46:15.320 --> 00:46:21.239
wife and I've been playing a lot
of like those kind of couch competitive games

731
00:46:21.239 --> 00:46:23.760
like nit Hog, Samurai Gun and
that couch Competitive Game. I like that

732
00:46:23.840 --> 00:46:28.760
the CCG. Yeah, the CCG. Got it. That's not already taken

733
00:46:28.760 --> 00:46:30.760
by something else. It seems familiar. I don't know why you disputed my

734
00:46:30.880 --> 00:46:36.119
theory for Samurai Gun, which is
that you and I are too old to

735
00:46:36.199 --> 00:46:38.840
play against younger people. Drew.
You're younger than us, right, yeah,

736
00:46:38.960 --> 00:46:42.280
yeah, so if we can be
Drew, then your theory is wrong.

737
00:46:42.599 --> 00:46:45.800
You're saying a reaction time is like
I played, I did a land

738
00:46:45.840 --> 00:46:49.360
party in the woods. What Yeah, I took my corner. Didn't get

739
00:46:49.400 --> 00:46:52.840
about you guys. This was a
team building exercise. Last time we went

740
00:46:52.880 --> 00:46:55.000
to the woods. I don't know. I think I was afraid we're gonna

741
00:46:55.039 --> 00:46:59.039
lose that canoe. That's hey,
we were we were good canoe driving.

742
00:46:59.199 --> 00:47:05.519
We were fantastic, but I was
playing a lot of the Samurai gun with

743
00:47:05.920 --> 00:47:07.480
people that were still in their twenties. How did you how did you power

744
00:47:07.559 --> 00:47:13.000
the things? It was in a
cabin, It was still Internet and all

745
00:47:13.000 --> 00:47:20.239
that kind of stuff powered. Yeah, kind of heathen and brought my my

746
00:47:20.320 --> 00:47:24.119
giant and he ended my corn getting
the hot toup together. No, what

747
00:47:24.559 --> 00:47:27.440
did you get? It was just
the three of you? Right, Yes,

748
00:47:27.519 --> 00:47:30.320
what did you guys eat for the
whole weekend? Because I brought a

749
00:47:30.360 --> 00:47:36.679
bunch of assorted meats and then we
put them over a fire. Well,

750
00:47:36.719 --> 00:47:38.400
that's right, you're a big thriller
man. Your company, your company sounds

751
00:47:38.480 --> 00:47:42.599
much better than my company. Our
retreat. They just go make a sit

752
00:47:42.639 --> 00:47:45.400
on blow broken glass for like four
hours. Yeah, I don't know.

753
00:47:45.440 --> 00:47:49.719
Dave's company just sounds like a bunch
of millennials. Yeah, fucking millennials.

754
00:47:50.280 --> 00:47:54.559
But did then when I played that
game, I was just I was getting

755
00:47:54.599 --> 00:47:59.280
destroyed. I was getting destroyed to
such a degree that I decided to just

756
00:47:59.320 --> 00:48:01.039
play the game like to fuck with
them, and I would just hide.

757
00:48:01.199 --> 00:48:05.360
And because I was dying so many
times that I would just I would hide

758
00:48:05.360 --> 00:48:08.159
as a dead body maybe you need
to be a little faster. I'm just

759
00:48:08.280 --> 00:48:12.039
man. You got to anticipate stuff. You gotta look into the used to

760
00:48:12.079 --> 00:48:16.119
be a competitive quake? Did you
rocket Arena Player? And now ten Earth?

761
00:48:17.039 --> 00:48:22.000
That's your bullshit. Any game that
I can't like, said a CONFIG

762
00:48:22.159 --> 00:48:25.639
two. I'm not I'm no good
at But that's not a landpard because you're

763
00:48:25.639 --> 00:48:29.280
just playing on your tower locally,
right. We were doing that, but

764
00:48:29.320 --> 00:48:32.000
then we were also playing other stuff. You played TFC Classic. We did

765
00:48:32.079 --> 00:48:36.880
not play Team Fortress Classic. What
else did you play? Uh? We

766
00:48:37.039 --> 00:48:39.719
played to the wee hours in your
cabin in the woods? Did we play?

767
00:48:39.800 --> 00:48:44.840
We played a lot of Oh,
what the hell's that? We were

768
00:48:44.880 --> 00:48:50.199
just talking about that, trying to
think of the game get a little well.

769
00:48:50.239 --> 00:48:53.719
We played a lot of Monaco,
which is great because I play that

770
00:48:53.760 --> 00:48:58.400
game. It's just a wrecking ball. I just don't care who else is

771
00:48:58.400 --> 00:49:00.320
playing that game. And then we
were playing the what's the game where you

772
00:49:00.639 --> 00:49:05.440
sit you unlock, don't shoot your
pants? That's yeah, that's the game

773
00:49:05.440 --> 00:49:09.360
where you don't shoot you unlock all
the characters and the prowboy and yeah,

774
00:49:09.440 --> 00:49:13.480
Risk of Rain, yeah is pretty
good, which is a good fun game.

775
00:49:15.039 --> 00:49:19.119
Will Smith. Yeah, you play
what other collectible couch games do you

776
00:49:19.119 --> 00:49:22.360
play? So Samurai gotten nit Hogg
mostly right, those are two fantastics.

777
00:49:22.400 --> 00:49:25.320
I didn't I realized I meant to
back the Sports Friends Kickstarter and then I

778
00:49:25.360 --> 00:49:29.039
didn't, So I feel like a
bad person kind of. I want to

779
00:49:29.039 --> 00:49:30.920
say, you can't right now.
No, the pre orders are closed,

780
00:49:31.119 --> 00:49:34.519
so I can't. So you can't
pay your way into the I cannot pay

781
00:49:34.559 --> 00:49:38.360
my way into the alpha's right now. But I'm I've gotten kind of weirdly

782
00:49:38.400 --> 00:49:45.000
obsessed with like nit Hogg especially,
game is great. Yes, Nit's fantastic.

783
00:49:45.039 --> 00:49:46.800
How is how is Samurai going with
two people? Uh? It's it

784
00:49:46.920 --> 00:49:52.320
needs more people? Think we three
is probably optimal. Four seems like like

785
00:49:52.320 --> 00:49:54.039
when I played four at packs it
was way too much shit going on.

786
00:49:54.320 --> 00:49:59.480
Could have been because I've never played
it before. But like two is two

787
00:49:59.559 --> 00:50:04.079
becomes two is like it is like
three dimensional nithog basically, so you end

788
00:50:04.159 --> 00:50:07.960
up with it's kind of you know, who moves first usually ends up dying,

789
00:50:08.440 --> 00:50:12.559
so it becomes who can wait the
other person out? And it's it's

790
00:50:12.599 --> 00:50:15.800
good. It's good. Like I've
known my wife for a long time and

791
00:50:15.840 --> 00:50:19.480
when we met. We used to
play a lot of like sitting on the

792
00:50:19.519 --> 00:50:22.840
couch playing ness and then sixty four
games and those games have gone away?

793
00:50:23.039 --> 00:50:29.679
Is it very long? Times?
Thank you? You can beat Drew.

794
00:50:30.119 --> 00:50:35.280
You walk him on my house and
play. We played the original Mario Cars

795
00:50:35.440 --> 00:50:39.079
probably new back then. Man.
I want that game to have like just

796
00:50:39.280 --> 00:50:44.159
moments where it stops the action of
pauses it and then asks you, like

797
00:50:44.159 --> 00:50:47.119
a random history question, so then
I can like and then I can get

798
00:50:47.119 --> 00:50:50.159
my win in. I'm like,
I could use my brain, I can

799
00:50:50.280 --> 00:50:53.679
use my Simy Carter's vice president.
Yeah, exactly who did video kill?

800
00:50:53.920 --> 00:50:57.800
I know this one can't be real
history questions. It has to be like

801
00:50:57.920 --> 00:51:00.400
MTV history. It just kills him
and like some brutal, horrible way or

802
00:51:00.440 --> 00:51:04.559
gives me a power up. Finish
this sentence. Yeah, welcome to MTV

803
00:51:04.639 --> 00:51:08.039
News. I'm Kurt, Yeah Loader, you got it and just skiing being

804
00:51:08.079 --> 00:51:19.760
like I don't get it. So
what Samantha Samantha Tath Tatha, who is

805
00:51:19.800 --> 00:51:22.960
the host of Headbanger's Ball Freaking Ricky
Rack. No, man, Matt Pinfield,

806
00:51:23.280 --> 00:51:27.880
No, No, that was on
a how are you? How are

807
00:51:27.880 --> 00:51:34.679
you doing there? Drew Yo?
MTV blanks. Yeah, they rap I

808
00:51:34.679 --> 00:51:42.480
can't remember who hosted that. No
MTVS raps was h lover and and uh

809
00:51:42.599 --> 00:51:47.559
and and dre Yes not the doctor. Bill Delny is just like Man about

810
00:51:47.599 --> 00:51:52.239
Town. He was on all their
stuff. Man about Town put that on

811
00:51:52.280 --> 00:51:55.960
a card. Man about Town,
Yeah, many caramel Man about Town you're

812
00:51:57.039 --> 00:52:02.079
kind of about well if anything else. Uh yeah, So you know,

813
00:52:02.239 --> 00:52:06.719
I really love Dungeon Keeper. I
have a lot of love for that game.

814
00:52:06.840 --> 00:52:10.440
Yeah, And I went and against
my better judgment, I downloaded the

815
00:52:10.440 --> 00:52:15.880
iOS. Why Why Because EA has
kind of a ship track record lately with

816
00:52:16.039 --> 00:52:20.719
iOS games, like they've like the
Plants Versus Zombies Two Things is still a

817
00:52:20.719 --> 00:52:22.079
little sour. Even though they came
back and made it a little bit better

818
00:52:22.639 --> 00:52:27.400
after the release, I'm still a
little bitter about that. So I opened

819
00:52:27.440 --> 00:52:30.480
it up when I installed it,
and and it's it's like it has Farmville

820
00:52:30.480 --> 00:52:35.960
timers so energy. Yeah, well
it's it's not energy. It's that when

821
00:52:35.960 --> 00:52:38.760
you mind resources, you need to
wait. It takes X number of minutes

822
00:52:38.800 --> 00:52:43.039
to mine each resource. But it's
not a it's a it's a macro level

823
00:52:43.079 --> 00:52:45.079
of time, not a like here
I'm sitting here playing the game for five

824
00:52:45.119 --> 00:52:50.880
minutes I can hours hours probably,
It's like it's like Tiny Tower style,

825
00:52:51.079 --> 00:52:52.320
It's like this will be finished in
twelve hours. Yeah, but there's a

826
00:52:52.320 --> 00:52:55.960
lot more currency stuff going on with
Tiny Tower and this. The upgrade tree

827
00:52:57.119 --> 00:53:01.519
is fiendish. So in order to
like, in order to unlock any dudes

828
00:53:01.559 --> 00:53:06.280
beyond the first like three or four, you have to upgrade your dungeon heart,

829
00:53:06.280 --> 00:53:07.320
which is the you know, the
thing in the center of your dungeon

830
00:53:07.320 --> 00:53:13.039
that you attack when you raid and
stuff. And in order to upgrade that

831
00:53:13.119 --> 00:53:16.360
beyond like level three, you have
to have fifty thousand of something. But

832
00:53:16.400 --> 00:53:20.039
in order to store fifty thousand of
the thing that you need, you have

833
00:53:20.079 --> 00:53:22.760
to upgrade three other things. And
in order to upgrade those, you have

834
00:53:22.760 --> 00:53:27.000
to upgrade two other things. Sound
like you're having fun, fuck those guys,

835
00:53:27.159 --> 00:53:30.559
how much? What's the best value? I haven't. I haven't.

836
00:53:30.079 --> 00:53:34.760
Also, every every single thing on
the UI has a plus next to it.

837
00:53:34.840 --> 00:53:37.639
You can tap to increase it,
and some of it upgrades. Some

838
00:53:37.679 --> 00:53:42.079
of it is using the gem currency. The gem is the thing you buy

839
00:53:42.079 --> 00:53:44.719
with money, I think, So
you can use gems to buy gold or

840
00:53:44.719 --> 00:53:46.960
stone, which are the two resources
you mind, But it's it's a.

841
00:53:47.119 --> 00:53:51.679
It's a. It makes me real
sad because there's a really neat game buried

842
00:53:51.679 --> 00:53:53.639
inside here. There's a thing where
you can go raid your friends dungeons and

843
00:53:53.679 --> 00:53:58.320
you can like attack their dungeons.
Like there's a multiplayer component that could have

844
00:53:58.360 --> 00:54:04.199
been fucking amazing. The I'm not
gonna ever see that, I ever suggest

845
00:54:04.239 --> 00:54:07.599
anybody else played this on Twitter.
But white Hot rage about this game that

846
00:54:07.679 --> 00:54:10.840
bad. Huh. It's people.
I mean, that's like a beloved franchise,

847
00:54:10.960 --> 00:54:14.000
you know, well, you know
it's I think it's one of those

848
00:54:14.000 --> 00:54:19.400
things. I'm not defending it.
Don't go not defendingender, not any defense

849
00:54:19.519 --> 00:54:23.559
dungeon Defender. This is Vinnie's talking
about Dungeon Keeper on the iOS and saying

850
00:54:23.599 --> 00:54:27.039
that I wonder if in a meeting
it was like the only way this game

851
00:54:27.119 --> 00:54:30.199
was gonna see the light of day. But then put a new ip on

852
00:54:30.239 --> 00:54:31.920
it. Man. Yeah, like
I'm not defending it. But yeah,

853
00:54:32.039 --> 00:54:37.320
like why because they wouldn't have gotten
you. Yeah, but I'm not ever

854
00:54:37.360 --> 00:54:39.039
going to give them money. I'm
so I was so angry about it at

855
00:54:39.039 --> 00:54:43.159
one point I thought I might just
never give them money again. Hey,

856
00:54:43.239 --> 00:54:46.039
Like I still haven't bought Battlefield for
Fuck those guys. I'm I'm yeah,

857
00:54:46.079 --> 00:54:51.400
I'm you know, you're getting off
the EA train, like it's a rain

858
00:54:51.480 --> 00:54:54.760
of disappointment and heartache. Battlefield for
I got no problems. You're gonna break

859
00:54:54.760 --> 00:54:58.679
your annual Madden. It never crashed
for you when that building came down.

860
00:54:58.880 --> 00:55:02.119
Yeah's trash. It did crash in
the first like two weeks. But you

861
00:55:02.199 --> 00:55:07.199
know, I like the game.
I thought those mechanics were super smart.

862
00:55:07.239 --> 00:55:12.679
Nobody that it's a good game.
It's just a fucking smoldering train wreck every

863
00:55:12.760 --> 00:55:15.079
time I get ready to go.
First month, like, if it worked,

864
00:55:15.119 --> 00:55:17.039
I think everybody would be super happy
with it. The first month I

865
00:55:17.039 --> 00:55:21.960
thought it was that way. I
think it's largely improved, and I bought.

866
00:55:22.000 --> 00:55:24.360
I bought Need for Speed that came
out with the with the new consoles,

867
00:55:24.400 --> 00:55:28.599
you know, last year's Hot Pursuit
or Most Wanted or whatever it is.

868
00:55:29.639 --> 00:55:32.079
It's like all that EA. They
took the stuff that was good about

869
00:55:32.119 --> 00:55:36.480
the burnt Burnout Paradise. They're having
a tough time. Yeah, like they

870
00:55:36.599 --> 00:55:39.119
they they're bad at online is what
I think it is. I think they

871
00:55:39.119 --> 00:55:43.639
should just make single player stuff that's
not connected to the internet like mass Effect.

872
00:55:43.880 --> 00:55:45.920
Yeah, like, well, yeah, I would totally play more mass

873
00:55:45.920 --> 00:55:47.599
Effect. That would be great.
I got good news for you. Hey

874
00:55:47.599 --> 00:55:51.559
what really? Yeah? Really?
Wait you didn't know, I don't.

875
00:55:51.599 --> 00:55:52.800
I don't. Yeah, they're making
it. They're they're deep in the making

876
00:55:52.840 --> 00:55:57.039
a new man is it multiplayer only
they haven't said anything about what it is

877
00:55:57.039 --> 00:56:00.000
because unfortunately it's just Shepherd playing Farmville
over and over again, and so it

878
00:56:00.000 --> 00:56:04.800
looks like you're going to be space. He just walked something in his or

879
00:56:04.840 --> 00:56:07.320
hurt retirement just at the beginning of
like you know, Mass Effect two just

880
00:56:07.400 --> 00:56:10.079
has that, and in Farmville just
shows up in the coffee sitting there and

881
00:56:10.239 --> 00:56:20.199
he's actually in Origin mostly time messages. That's how he's got to beat the

882
00:56:20.199 --> 00:56:23.360
Reapers man in a hot Farmville match. Hey guys, since to the update,

883
00:56:23.440 --> 00:56:30.840
fifty five thousand roads still fucking suck. So uh so you know,

884
00:56:30.079 --> 00:56:34.800
No, Will Smith does not give
two thumbs up for dungeon Keeper on the

885
00:56:34.800 --> 00:56:37.599
iOS. No, No, you
can get the real dungeon Keeper from goog

886
00:56:37.079 --> 00:56:39.199
dot com. That's good old game. Oh no, it is Goog.

887
00:56:39.519 --> 00:56:44.559
It is no longer gone gas right, it's I was not it doesn't it's

888
00:56:44.559 --> 00:56:47.079
hard to get running. Sorry,
just real quick. Since you mentioned that

889
00:56:47.119 --> 00:56:50.599
need for speed game, I thought
I saw this headline today and it is

890
00:56:50.599 --> 00:56:53.239
in fact true layoffs hit ghost games, oh un announced need for speed title

891
00:56:53.280 --> 00:56:57.280
mothballed. Thanks, well so that's
pobably gone. Yeah, thanks a lot,

892
00:56:57.320 --> 00:57:01.079
So boy news travels fast for all
those now life, thank you for

893
00:57:01.360 --> 00:57:07.480
it looked really pretty Uh, will
anything else going on? No, that's

894
00:57:07.519 --> 00:57:08.679
it? I tell all right,
Well it's world working. Yeah, let's

895
00:57:08.679 --> 00:57:12.360
talk all right, talk about serious
business. You know what's going on,

896
00:57:12.719 --> 00:57:15.519
Who's who's building? What? What's
on your bench? Let's talking about what's

897
00:57:15.519 --> 00:57:22.960
on the bench? Will I am? I had a long, hard talk

898
00:57:22.960 --> 00:57:25.960
with Steve Lynn at Packs about making
Mame cabinets last year, and he convinced

899
00:57:27.000 --> 00:57:30.079
me that was a bad idea to
make a mame cabinet. Yeah. What

900
00:57:30.159 --> 00:57:34.159
were his points? He said,
it's you know, the spawn of Satan.

901
00:57:34.239 --> 00:57:36.400
So Norman West are building one.
But that's fine, that's cool.

902
00:57:36.440 --> 00:57:38.280
They didn't have to talk with Steve. But I wanted to build a cabinet.

903
00:57:38.360 --> 00:57:44.559
And and I got kind of into
these couch competitive games, the CCGs,

904
00:57:44.599 --> 00:57:46.559
so but they all use analog I
like I originally thought that he would

905
00:57:46.559 --> 00:57:50.440
be cool to build a cabinet that
you can play these games with. Most

906
00:57:50.480 --> 00:57:52.159
of the arcade sticks, yeah,
are four way or eight way or maybe

907
00:57:52.280 --> 00:57:57.199
octagonal, which isn't gonna I guess
that's eight way binary. You're either moving

908
00:57:57.280 --> 00:58:00.519
or not. Their digital pads,
just like the deep pad on your on

909
00:58:00.559 --> 00:58:04.559
your game pad, or their or
their leaf switches or whatever whatever it is

910
00:58:04.599 --> 00:58:07.360
they are, they are you're moving, yeah, right, or you're either

911
00:58:07.400 --> 00:58:10.880
going or you're not. There's no
moment slowly and there's no in betweens.

912
00:58:13.239 --> 00:58:17.519
So I was talking to the idle
thumbs guys a few weeks ago and we

913
00:58:17.519 --> 00:58:22.440
were like, we had a dumb
idea, and you know, one thing

914
00:58:22.519 --> 00:58:23.719
led to the other. And then
I ordered a bunch of joysticks from the

915
00:58:23.760 --> 00:58:28.679
internet. Yeah uh, And I
found someplace that makes analog, which I

916
00:58:28.679 --> 00:58:31.280
think is incredible arcades sticks really,
and they do it for evil Just to

917
00:58:31.320 --> 00:58:34.920
be clear, they do it for
mame cabinets. So you can have a

918
00:58:34.960 --> 00:58:38.920
software configurable eight way, four way, two way, vertical, two way,

919
00:58:38.960 --> 00:58:44.880
horizontal joystick, so it's yeah,
or don't have to like turn restrictor

920
00:58:44.960 --> 00:58:46.639
or something like that. It's a
terrible just don't. Don't if you want

921
00:58:46.639 --> 00:58:51.199
to, why are you railing against
the main cast? Go with it.

922
00:58:51.679 --> 00:58:53.320
If you're gonna bank a Maame cabinet, make a four way stick or an

923
00:58:53.320 --> 00:58:57.199
eight way stick, or get one
that's like mechanically configurable. But the ones

924
00:58:57.199 --> 00:58:59.880
that are software, it's not gonna
work. Well, it's gonna be an

925
00:59:00.039 --> 00:59:01.519
that. It's gonna be a bad
experience. You're gonna have a bad time.

926
00:59:01.760 --> 00:59:05.880
And I need to have Like then
I needed like different control panels,

927
00:59:05.880 --> 00:59:07.199
and I gotta like take them all. We got put my track ball controlling

928
00:59:07.280 --> 00:59:10.360
on my They gotta put my pac
Man one on that's just four way,

929
00:59:10.440 --> 00:59:14.920
and then I gotta put my jous
one on. And that's so the same

930
00:59:14.960 --> 00:59:19.400
people that make the analog stick make
a four way eight way that has a

931
00:59:19.440 --> 00:59:23.039
motor that moves the restrictor from four
way mode to two. That's awesome.

932
00:59:23.400 --> 00:59:27.960
Totally down with that. So you
got this analog stick and have it as

933
00:59:27.960 --> 00:59:32.679
it works because there is analog control
in NID everything. Almost all these said

934
00:59:32.719 --> 00:59:37.880
maybe Bari Bari ball has nihog won't
let you use the deepado, you can't

935
00:59:37.920 --> 00:59:42.119
use the dpad. I think you
can move I don't remember you might be

936
00:59:42.119 --> 00:59:44.280
able to You might be able to
play anywhere I get with the deepend,

937
00:59:44.320 --> 00:59:45.960
but I can't. I don't think
it would work well. You can use

938
00:59:45.960 --> 00:59:49.400
it. You can move slowly and
you you have better air control with the

939
00:59:49.400 --> 00:59:52.480
analog than digital, like you have
speed. You can there's a because if

940
00:59:52.480 --> 00:59:54.639
you think about it, when you
play Nihog, if you run in do

941
00:59:54.719 --> 00:59:58.119
the duck, then you'll cart wheel
if you're going fast, and you roll

942
00:59:58.159 --> 01:00:01.679
if you're going slow. All right, so you just roll all the time.

943
01:00:01.800 --> 01:00:07.760
No, you can have without a
sword. Maybe pick up we'll have

944
01:00:07.880 --> 01:00:12.199
for science. So you you built
a prototype. I built a prototype.

945
01:00:12.199 --> 01:00:14.480
So I'm building a couple of prototypes. I got the first one done.

946
01:00:15.480 --> 01:00:17.239
But I found this analog stick.
It's really good. We'll post about it

947
01:00:17.239 --> 01:00:21.800
on this untested So are you thinking
about building a full stand up cabinet.

948
01:00:21.920 --> 01:00:24.599
I want to build a full stand
up cabinet. Don't think cocktail would really

949
01:00:24.599 --> 01:00:27.639
work with that? Would No?
I want four players. I want like

950
01:00:27.920 --> 01:00:34.239
like a four NFL Blitz or super
wide fucking big ass care putting in big

951
01:00:34.320 --> 01:00:37.199
question. What's going in for the
screen? Uh? Probably probably LCD,

952
01:00:37.519 --> 01:00:40.400
a big old LCD. Yeah,
I think like a big wide screen,

953
01:00:40.440 --> 01:00:44.320
probably wide screen, Okay, I
don't. I don't think it's a good

954
01:00:44.320 --> 01:00:47.440
idea, like for me personally to
have to marrow. We get carry a

955
01:00:47.440 --> 01:00:51.320
twenty seven pounds RT around, so
you probably make it pretty thin. Then

956
01:00:52.239 --> 01:00:54.679
maybe I like the traditional form factor, but maybe it'll be I don't know.

957
01:00:54.719 --> 01:00:58.000
I haven't. I don't have to
be that deep. Haven't gotten the

958
01:00:58.039 --> 01:01:00.559
cabinet. You do want some stability, though, because you're gonna slapping that

959
01:01:00.559 --> 01:01:05.000
thing. So I'm talking on a
little ap plywood, a little a little

960
01:01:05.280 --> 01:01:08.880
I like a probably a half inch
for the for the sides, maybe a

961
01:01:09.000 --> 01:01:14.559
quarter inch with some lets over the
top stuff mostly particle board, particle.

962
01:01:15.800 --> 01:01:20.280
I'm gonna paint it the outside.
I'm gonna see a apply with probably so

963
01:01:20.320 --> 01:01:22.800
the inside will be the sea.
And I think I'm gonna paint. I'm

964
01:01:22.800 --> 01:01:25.280
not gonna stand up going with like
like a beach veneer applywood on there.

965
01:01:25.280 --> 01:01:29.599
You're gonna kind of cheap. No, I wouldn't make something that looks modern.

966
01:01:29.719 --> 01:01:37.519
Ok what would a nice little birch
beer? Yeah? God, what

967
01:01:37.559 --> 01:01:40.960
a hipsterish thing to do? I
like, I like, yeah. We

968
01:01:40.960 --> 01:01:44.599
We talked to Tom Sacks a few
months ago. For a thing. He's

969
01:01:44.639 --> 01:01:46.320
an artist, and he said you
should show your mistakes and show your work,

970
01:01:46.559 --> 01:01:50.119
which, as a would ward,
is that means if you fuck something

971
01:01:50.199 --> 01:01:51.840
up, Oh yeah, that's fine, just leave it. We've be at

972
01:01:51.840 --> 01:01:54.920
the website school. What if you
if you like, need to put a

973
01:01:54.960 --> 01:01:58.360
screw into something to hold in a
place while the glue is drying, that's

974
01:01:58.360 --> 01:02:00.039
fine, just leave the holder.
Non buddy, shut up, there's any

975
01:02:00.079 --> 01:02:07.400
more clamps. I built a outfeed
table that goes off a swing. That's

976
01:02:07.400 --> 01:02:10.320
pretty awesome. That's that's uh,
to my table saw. But talk about

977
01:02:10.320 --> 01:02:15.360
the mistakes I made. Uh,
it's got you know, the table sauce

978
01:02:15.400 --> 01:02:17.480
got wheels on the bottom that you
can push down, so it actually pushes

979
01:02:17.519 --> 01:02:22.280
the table saw up so you can
move it around. The problem was I

980
01:02:22.320 --> 01:02:25.880
did the measurement for how tall the
table saw was while those were down,

981
01:02:27.360 --> 01:02:32.559
and I built my entire outfeed table. Yeah it's so that doesn't work.

982
01:02:32.599 --> 01:02:37.639
So I had to actually take the
whole thing off and then take the perfect

983
01:02:37.639 --> 01:02:40.920
table that I made, like really
nice with nice frame around it, and

984
01:02:42.239 --> 01:02:45.480
put the actual table on the table
saw and cut two inches off of it.

985
01:02:45.840 --> 01:02:46.920
If you had a sauce all you
could have just done that without having

986
01:02:46.920 --> 01:02:50.480
to take the whole thing apart.
Now, but it's nice. How wide

987
01:02:50.519 --> 01:02:53.920
is your oundfeed table? It's probably
like the feet it's forty inches by thirty

988
01:02:54.079 --> 01:02:59.440
six. I wish I lived in
the suburbs. No, but it's but

989
01:02:59.519 --> 01:03:01.880
it slides stand. That's the whole
point. It's like it's two inches up

990
01:03:01.880 --> 01:03:06.800
against the wall. Well, so
so will in your in your garage?

991
01:03:06.840 --> 01:03:09.639
Now? Yeah? Do you uh
you have power tools? Uh? No?

992
01:03:09.880 --> 01:03:13.480
Not really? Are you mostly handled
like hand sauz? And now I

993
01:03:13.599 --> 01:03:16.400
go to somebody else's shop. Although
for this, yeah, I haven't made

994
01:03:16.440 --> 01:03:20.320
any announcement. I haven't actually talked
to the people yet, but I think

995
01:03:20.320 --> 01:03:23.039
I'm gonna see if I can borrow
time on a CNC router to do this,

996
01:03:23.400 --> 01:03:27.400
to do what to do the to
build the cabinets so that I don't

997
01:03:27.400 --> 01:03:29.960
have to because we're probably gonna make
multiples. You're like, this is a

998
01:03:30.000 --> 01:03:32.119
stand up full size, stand up
full size, So I get a big

999
01:03:32.199 --> 01:03:36.599
router. There's a coll with that
take to make one couple of places that

1000
01:03:36.639 --> 01:03:42.000
have ten ten foot by ten foot
CNC routers in town that you can either

1001
01:03:42.039 --> 01:03:46.119
pay or maybe negotiate a trade or
something for time on. So they'll they'll

1002
01:03:46.119 --> 01:03:49.519
go fast because they'll cut through a
whole sheet at a time. Wow,

1003
01:03:49.599 --> 01:03:51.880
So you can probably, I mean
I think I don't. I've never actually

1004
01:03:51.920 --> 01:03:53.559
used this before. I just watched
other people use it, so I'm an

1005
01:03:53.559 --> 01:03:57.920
expert. I mean you're talking stock
that's like seven feet tall, right,

1006
01:03:58.360 --> 01:04:00.639
yeah, probably six feet I think
I think probably four by eight would be

1007
01:04:00.719 --> 01:04:04.519
my guests if I'm buying sheets,
and then ye wait, what do you

1008
01:04:04.559 --> 01:04:08.519
design the cabinet? And if you
go the same sketch up? Well,

1009
01:04:08.719 --> 01:04:11.800
although most had style, Yeah,
if you don't need depth. So if

1010
01:04:11.800 --> 01:04:14.039
I can design, if I can
get the cab designed to a way that

1011
01:04:14.039 --> 01:04:16.920
I don't need to like route out
holes underneath to make room for buttons or

1012
01:04:16.960 --> 01:04:21.440
whatever, then it'll be an I
should be able to put multiple stacks of

1013
01:04:21.480 --> 01:04:27.480
the wood. It fits like four
inches long, so you could you could

1014
01:04:27.519 --> 01:04:30.719
just cut you know, four four
sheets at a time. That's gonna go

1015
01:04:30.760 --> 01:04:33.320
real fast, right, Well,
because the signs are the same also,

1016
01:04:33.480 --> 01:04:36.039
right, yeah, exactly, if
both sides of the same, then you

1017
01:04:36.079 --> 01:04:43.000
can do two machines in four sheets
supply wood. Yet the back I can

1018
01:04:43.039 --> 01:04:45.039
just I can cut myself. I'm
not I can do that at tables.

1019
01:04:45.079 --> 01:04:47.039
I'm not worried about that. That's
cool. So yeah, I'm gonna try

1020
01:04:47.039 --> 01:04:48.960
that. I don't know if it's
gonna happen or not, and the inside

1021
01:04:48.960 --> 01:04:53.079
will probably just be a PC.
Yeah, the inside. So we we've

1022
01:04:53.119 --> 01:04:56.039
been working. We've been doing a
lot of steamo as stuff lately, just

1023
01:04:56.079 --> 01:04:59.000
kind of noodling that we're gonna shot
a video tomorrow. Yeah, tell me

1024
01:04:59.760 --> 01:05:01.679
the there's not a whole lot of
Linux games, it turns out. Yeah,

1025
01:05:01.960 --> 01:05:05.599
there's like three hundred my that I
have, but that's in the weird

1026
01:05:05.599 --> 01:05:10.280
account. That's respectable. Yeah,
that's not terrible. No, no,

1027
01:05:10.400 --> 01:05:14.440
I know, but I'm just saying
that's all of them at But it's all

1028
01:05:14.480 --> 01:05:16.320
a lot of It's like it's all
it's almost all stuff it's been in Humble

1029
01:05:16.360 --> 01:05:20.719
bunbles, is what it seems like. So tux Racer, No, no,

1030
01:05:20.800 --> 01:05:25.920
tux Racer, that's open source.
But there's like all the Bastion you

1031
01:05:25.960 --> 01:05:30.159
want. Yeah, Quake. Yeah. I've been testing the streaming stuff too,

1032
01:05:30.159 --> 01:05:31.280
though, which is kind of Yeah, that's what I'm most interested in.

1033
01:05:31.599 --> 01:05:35.079
I was really good. Really,
I can't I can't vouch for people's

1034
01:05:35.079 --> 01:05:39.199
home networks, but on our weird
corporate network, and there may be some

1035
01:05:39.280 --> 01:05:42.239
mintogatting factors or something. But I
watched Jeff at his desk the other day

1036
01:05:42.639 --> 01:05:45.760
try to stream Octo Dad from the
PC down in the studio. Uh huh,

1037
01:05:45.880 --> 01:05:48.280
it's not good. So Norm had
problems with Octo Dad specifically, Like

1038
01:05:48.320 --> 01:05:53.559
there's a lot of game specific bugs, like like some games, like especially

1039
01:05:53.760 --> 01:05:57.760
fast frame rate games like Injustice and
nit Hog. If you try to stream

1040
01:05:57.760 --> 01:06:00.719
either of those, then you end
up playing it like half speed because it's

1041
01:06:00.960 --> 01:06:04.159
a sixty frame per second game.
Eventually the speed went way down. But

1042
01:06:04.199 --> 01:06:08.400
also just even in the menus,
there was just a huge amount of latency.

1043
01:06:08.679 --> 01:06:12.440
Yeah, so on my home network, which is a gigabit ethernet,

1044
01:06:12.760 --> 01:06:18.400
it's it's pretty good for things that
are controller based, like like single player

1045
01:06:18.480 --> 01:06:26.880
games like Saints Row the Fourth a
BioShock Infinite like I went through a bunch

1046
01:06:26.920 --> 01:06:30.679
of like last year's Triple A titles
and that it works great. Meat Boy

1047
01:06:30.880 --> 01:06:33.920
I could play, but only early
levels when you got far enough into meat

1048
01:06:33.920 --> 01:06:39.519
Boy that like defending Yeah, like
that level that Brad played you. I

1049
01:06:39.519 --> 01:06:45.280
would never try. I would never
try Splunky Daily Challenge. With the streaming,

1050
01:06:45.280 --> 01:06:48.760
there's just just enough latency. Maybe
I haven't tried that yet. That's

1051
01:06:48.760 --> 01:06:51.159
something I don't have a lot of
racing games. Would you say it is

1052
01:06:51.199 --> 01:06:55.840
completely dependent on your network. Yeah, like wireless, you're gonna have to

1053
01:06:55.880 --> 01:07:00.360
turn the So I'm streaming at TENNYP. I think unlimited band with is what

1054
01:07:00.360 --> 01:07:01.800
I haven't said to and I don't. I don't think you can control frame

1055
01:07:01.880 --> 01:07:06.920
rate yet. But yeah, like
the stuff I'm streaming is fine. I

1056
01:07:06.920 --> 01:07:11.679
would never play anything competitive. I
would never play anything that's like like timing

1057
01:07:11.719 --> 01:07:14.760
super timing intensive. But if you
just want to go shoot some dudes in

1058
01:07:14.760 --> 01:07:16.920
Saints Row, it's pretty good.
And it gets lets you play stuff that's

1059
01:07:16.960 --> 01:07:20.400
never going to be on or won't
be on Linux for the foreseeable future in

1060
01:07:20.440 --> 01:07:25.840
the living room without having to run
the thirty foot h yeah or put a

1061
01:07:25.840 --> 01:07:28.599
lot. So I read your article. There's a ride up on test that

1062
01:07:29.000 --> 01:07:31.199
it also takes over the host machine, right, yeah, so the so

1063
01:07:31.280 --> 01:07:33.599
it's not like you can play one
game on your main computer and one play

1064
01:07:33.840 --> 01:07:38.199
one game there. It'll show up
on your monitor like a normal one and

1065
01:07:38.679 --> 01:07:43.199
the Steambox capture sound. So you
so like the sound gets piped out of

1066
01:07:43.199 --> 01:07:45.639
the living room. Usually doesn't come
out of the speakers attached to your PC.

1067
01:07:45.800 --> 01:07:48.400
But sometimes it's a little buggy,
as if it's playing the game.

1068
01:07:48.480 --> 01:07:51.880
Yeah, as if it's playing the
game. So like, if you can

1069
01:07:51.880 --> 01:07:55.920
make it seem like the computer's remote
viewing stuff, it's real weird. What

1070
01:07:55.920 --> 01:07:58.840
were you playing with? Like?
What was your control? So I hooked

1071
01:07:58.920 --> 01:08:02.199
up different Sony controllers. I tried
both the PS four and the PS three.

1072
01:08:03.119 --> 01:08:08.159
There was some configuration weirdness with the
PS four. PS three seemed to

1073
01:08:08.159 --> 01:08:11.159
work okay, but mostly I just
plug in one of those Xbox wireless dongles

1074
01:08:11.480 --> 01:08:15.079
and use Xbox controllers. Yeah,
they just plugs in it just to text

1075
01:08:15.119 --> 01:08:17.680
the Xbox controllers. It just knows
what it is and everything works. Yeah,

1076
01:08:17.960 --> 01:08:23.720
you get this free. Get this. It's a free download. I

1077
01:08:23.720 --> 01:08:26.199
am running it, so we're gonna
have a video up later this week.

1078
01:08:27.000 --> 01:08:31.880
The machine I built is an Intel
nukebox, So it's uh Intel they call

1079
01:08:31.920 --> 01:08:34.520
it the next unit of computing is
what nuke stands for. And you see,

1080
01:08:34.800 --> 01:08:38.159
but it's like about the size of
an Apple. It's a little bigger

1081
01:08:38.159 --> 01:08:42.880
than an Apple TV and smaller than
like, uh, I don't know.

1082
01:08:43.079 --> 01:08:46.039
It's smaller than a cigar box,
like a car, Yeah, like a

1083
01:08:46.119 --> 01:08:48.279
car. It's like a dump truck. Yeah, yeah, smaller than a

1084
01:08:48.520 --> 01:08:55.279
truck. But it's it's basically a
motherboard with a CPU soldered on. It

1085
01:08:55.279 --> 01:08:57.960
has all the cooling and stuff built
in, and then you add either a

1086
01:08:57.960 --> 01:09:00.640
hard driver and MS added drive,
depending on which one you I yea,

1087
01:09:00.199 --> 01:09:03.119
which are you know? I'm sad
of those little card looking things, and

1088
01:09:03.159 --> 01:09:08.119
you add a wireless card if you
need that, and then so it's like

1089
01:09:08.119 --> 01:09:11.079
two hundred and seventy five bucks for
the box, which is kind of expensive,

1090
01:09:11.079 --> 01:09:13.520
but it's like a it's a I
five, so it's not it's not

1091
01:09:13.560 --> 01:09:15.199
a it's a has well based I
five, so it's not a shitty CPO

1092
01:09:16.319 --> 01:09:20.720
it has. It has good enough
integrated graphics to play pretty much anything that

1093
01:09:20.760 --> 01:09:25.760
was available native, so bashion and
all that stuff works great. Thomas was

1094
01:09:25.800 --> 01:09:30.079
alone when it worked, worked indie
games, indie games, and then enough

1095
01:09:30.119 --> 01:09:31.479
to decode the video. The video
is no problem. Yeah. Did you

1096
01:09:31.520 --> 01:09:35.439
try any like source engine stuff on
there? I don't think I have yet.

1097
01:09:35.920 --> 01:09:39.920
I know, probably the most demanding
stuff on Linux that I can think

1098
01:09:39.960 --> 01:09:42.720
of, yeah. I want to
say metros on there too, but I

1099
01:09:42.760 --> 01:09:45.760
could be wrong. I think they
have a Linux version of Metric, but

1100
01:09:45.800 --> 01:09:48.039
maybe not. Have you gotten your
hands on and any of the Steam controllers

1101
01:09:48.039 --> 01:09:50.279
stuff to have, Yeah, we
we did. We've spent a little bit

1102
01:09:50.279 --> 01:09:54.000
of time with it at CS.
Can you talk about it, Yeah,

1103
01:09:54.079 --> 01:09:56.520
but I mean I don't think I
have anything like, it's nothing new to

1104
01:09:56.520 --> 01:09:59.479
add, it's yeah. I mean
I feel like you're not gonna know if

1105
01:09:59.520 --> 01:10:01.439
that things any good until you sit
down and play shitload of games with it.

1106
01:10:01.479 --> 01:10:05.479
And we had maybe fifteen minutes with
Portal one, which wasn't great.

1107
01:10:06.920 --> 01:10:13.439
But the haptic feedback is on the
so those big circles the controller touchpad things

1108
01:10:13.840 --> 01:10:16.000
have haptic feedback. So as you
get it's not like you just feel a

1109
01:10:16.079 --> 01:10:18.640
ring around the edge or something when
you get close to the edge. It

1110
01:10:18.680 --> 01:10:23.199
actually pulses as faster as you get
further away from the center, so you

1111
01:10:23.600 --> 01:10:30.239
have real constant feedback about about like
where your thumbs distracting or I didn't find

1112
01:10:30.239 --> 01:10:34.319
it distracting. I The thing that
annoyed me more than anything on is that

1113
01:10:34.399 --> 01:10:40.359
on the movement stick, you you
like, you can't just tap and know

1114
01:10:40.439 --> 01:10:43.720
exactly where the center is. So
when you were trying to do a jumping

1115
01:10:43.760 --> 01:10:45.560
puzzle in portal, which is really
bad experience with the game pad to begin

1116
01:10:45.640 --> 01:10:49.119
with, Like you you if you
were you could never take your thumb off,

1117
01:10:49.359 --> 01:10:54.239
if you were someplace that moving in
any direction was going to kill you.

1118
01:10:54.239 --> 01:10:56.600
You have to stay relative to where
you were, because it stays relative

1119
01:10:56.640 --> 01:11:00.840
to where. Yeah, So like
it's I mean, they're working on it.

1120
01:11:01.039 --> 01:11:04.840
I remain cautiously optimistic, but I
don't have any you know, we're

1121
01:11:04.880 --> 01:11:08.680
gonna have to when they come out, we'll get them and we'll spend a

1122
01:11:08.680 --> 01:11:11.840
sht load of time with them like
everybody else will, and and you're gonna

1123
01:11:11.840 --> 01:11:15.199
have to make your own opinion.
I'm I mean, maybe I'll be able

1124
01:11:15.239 --> 01:11:17.039
to play seven five in the living
room, but I don't think so,

1125
01:11:17.119 --> 01:11:19.279
because I think the UI is still
going to be really small and shitty.

1126
01:11:19.359 --> 01:11:25.920
So probably. Yeah. Uh,
that's why would working project Dave Snyder?

1127
01:11:25.960 --> 01:11:30.640
What you got on the bench?
How's your outfeed table? Welcome to the

1128
01:11:30.880 --> 01:11:33.560
actually work? Why do you need
it? Well, that's what's what's good

1129
01:11:33.560 --> 01:11:38.119
past the outfeed table. Why do
you need a two foot out of feed

1130
01:11:38.119 --> 01:11:40.880
to? Yeah, I usually just
let the board and flop off the what

1131
01:11:40.920 --> 01:11:43.439
do you what do you table?
That's fine? Right, Well, because

1132
01:11:43.640 --> 01:11:45.800
you got when you do rip cuts. I hear you've got a really long

1133
01:11:45.840 --> 01:11:50.079
piece. Well, what are you
doing well? I made a toy chest.

1134
01:11:50.439 --> 01:11:57.560
Nice, that was that was the
start, but a whole way more

1135
01:11:57.600 --> 01:12:01.079
expensive tools to make a like one
hundred and fifty dollars to chest. But

1136
01:12:01.159 --> 01:12:03.920
it's not about it's not about that. Yeah, it's like now you can

1137
01:12:03.920 --> 01:12:06.399
make it as many toy tests as
you want. I said you were doing

1138
01:12:06.439 --> 01:12:10.680
pocket screws. It was great.
I did all that. But that's yeah,

1139
01:12:10.920 --> 01:12:13.880
but that's easy. That's like you
buy your jig for your pocket.

1140
01:12:14.159 --> 01:12:18.920
It's not fine woodworking. Now I've
graduated now doing like dovetails. Wow by

1141
01:12:18.960 --> 01:12:24.520
hand. Yeah, I don't give
a shit. I I will buy the

1142
01:12:24.560 --> 01:12:26.800
thing that helps me naked east.
So are you doing it with your router?

1143
01:12:27.479 --> 01:12:30.399
Yeah, I've got a router.
I made a router table. Put

1144
01:12:30.399 --> 01:12:33.000
that attachment onto my Yeah. I've
gone with your brand. I've gone deep

1145
01:12:33.239 --> 01:12:38.439
like you're a paramedic guy. No, I buy whatever whatever. You all

1146
01:12:38.520 --> 01:12:41.039
kind of mixed stuff. Okay,
So do you have all? Right,

1147
01:12:41.279 --> 01:12:43.960
I've got a rigid table, so
which is nice? And then I got

1148
01:12:44.000 --> 01:12:47.359
a rigid table. So just talking
about this, what uh what is your

1149
01:12:47.399 --> 01:12:54.079
air filtration system? Uh? That's
bad and in fact, I should not

1150
01:12:54.079 --> 01:12:57.800
buy from that bad anymore. I
had noticed that shit. I was just

1151
01:12:57.960 --> 01:13:00.079
using like a shot back. Yeah, but then I started noticing. I

1152
01:13:00.119 --> 01:13:02.279
was like, I think I'm getting
a cold. Why do I keep having

1153
01:13:02.359 --> 01:13:05.600
a cold. It's because you gotta
wear masks or when you watching the videos

1154
01:13:05.640 --> 01:13:08.840
online of like, hey, I'm
gonna look up this thing. I just

1155
01:13:08.880 --> 01:13:12.399
want to see how you do this
cut. And guys have like hazmat suits

1156
01:13:12.439 --> 01:13:16.039
on with ventilation systems and fans above
their head and they're like bo and then

1157
01:13:16.159 --> 01:13:19.079
take it off and oh yeah,
I just had to do a little cut

1158
01:13:19.159 --> 01:13:21.479
on this thing, and I'm gonna
do it again, so don't mind the

1159
01:13:21.479 --> 01:13:27.800
noise, but I'm gonna put on
my Cyclone air filtration system. Like Jesus

1160
01:13:27.840 --> 01:13:30.560
I my dad never had that in
his garage. But the weird thing for

1161
01:13:30.600 --> 01:13:36.359
me is it's strangely like comforting.
I feel it's no it's a natural switch

1162
01:13:36.399 --> 01:13:41.479
to me to do the all the
measurement and cutting stuff for woodworking. After

1163
01:13:41.520 --> 01:13:45.439
doing web do you guys shop and
sketch up or anything. Do you like

1164
01:13:45.479 --> 01:13:47.720
build plans with a tool or do
you just draw? I draw all the

1165
01:13:47.760 --> 01:13:53.159
stuff, and sometimes I end up
where I make those dumb mistakes. But

1166
01:13:54.079 --> 01:13:59.720
it's been fun. The finishing stuff's
been probably harder to me than the spray

1167
01:13:59.760 --> 01:14:01.920
finish finishing his way fun said,
you already had a spray gun, didn't

1168
01:14:01.920 --> 01:14:05.079
you, from I have a spray
gun. Yeah, because before I gotten

1169
01:14:05.119 --> 01:14:09.800
into this, I was taking old
furniture that I bought at auction, Yeah,

1170
01:14:09.960 --> 01:14:13.520
and then just refinishing it, uh
to make it nice. So we

1171
01:14:13.720 --> 01:14:16.199
took the next logical step. It's
like I want to build, you know,

1172
01:14:16.520 --> 01:14:19.239
my next one will probably be like
a nice coffee table. You guys

1173
01:14:19.239 --> 01:14:24.720
are just waiting until your dad.
It's just something triggers and you're like,

1174
01:14:24.960 --> 01:14:27.359
yeah, we should go to the
home depot, you know what. Totally,

1175
01:14:27.880 --> 01:14:29.880
But but the home depot is not
where you don't go to the don't

1176
01:14:29.920 --> 01:14:36.760
go there by screws. Yeah,
we should potato, we should really go

1177
01:14:38.720 --> 01:14:42.159
why we're just going to the park. But it's also weird because like how

1178
01:14:42.239 --> 01:14:45.640
old that hobby is, Like it's
for old men. Yeah, So I

1179
01:14:45.720 --> 01:14:50.359
now get like seven catalogs at my
house because that's how they sell. Or

1180
01:14:50.399 --> 01:14:54.119
you gotta go to like a swap. Yeah, I gotta go get some

1181
01:14:54.159 --> 01:14:57.359
tools, gotta go to the swap. Look at these Stanley planers. I

1182
01:14:57.399 --> 01:15:00.359
could just fix them up if I
have you Have you been to Beef?

1183
01:15:00.880 --> 01:15:03.359
No, you should go to McBeth. Beeth is the good hardwood place in

1184
01:15:03.359 --> 01:15:08.199
San Francisco where it's set in East
Bay or something. No, no,

1185
01:15:08.079 --> 01:15:11.279
no, it's down It's uh,
it's right at the one on one two

1186
01:15:11.279 --> 01:15:15.039
eighty split south of the south of
San Francisco. It's it's like north.

1187
01:15:15.039 --> 01:15:18.279
It's in South San Francisco, but
not the city South San Francisco, the

1188
01:15:18.319 --> 01:15:21.279
south part of San Francisco, the
city. I definitely took like an hour

1189
01:15:21.319 --> 01:15:24.720
and a half trip to go to
the hardwood place, and they were They're

1190
01:15:24.720 --> 01:15:26.960
pretty awesome. Beat's great. It
might have been it might have been the

1191
01:15:26.960 --> 01:15:29.239
one. I love going into those
places because you go into those there and

1192
01:15:29.279 --> 01:15:31.079
you're like, hey, I'm just
starting out. I don't really know what

1193
01:15:31.119 --> 01:15:33.199
I'm doing. Yeah, but here's
what I want to do, and I

1194
01:15:33.399 --> 01:15:36.560
here's how I think I should do
it. And then then like three dudes

1195
01:15:36.560 --> 01:15:39.439
will come over and they're like,
Oh, you should do that, you

1196
01:15:39.479 --> 01:15:43.359
should do this, you should buy
he Born Freedom sherry. They're usually pretty

1197
01:15:43.399 --> 01:15:45.439
good. They're like, yeah,
you just use plywood for that. You

1198
01:15:45.439 --> 01:15:49.000
don't need to buy expensive stuff.
This is a plywood video, or they

1199
01:15:49.079 --> 01:15:53.279
use the expensive stuff. They've got
all the same, they all make the

1200
01:15:53.279 --> 01:15:56.000
same joke. When you've got your
kid with you, like going through the

1201
01:15:56.000 --> 01:15:59.199
hardware store, they're like, why
did you bring your boss? Yeah,

1202
01:16:02.039 --> 01:16:04.000
when I went to it was actually
kind of a bum when I went to

1203
01:16:04.039 --> 01:16:08.800
the hardwood place with Max. Uh. There was like the forklift and everything

1204
01:16:08.880 --> 01:16:11.520
around, and he like looks at
Max and he looks at the forklift and

1205
01:16:11.560 --> 01:16:14.880
he's like, man, if this
for fifteen years ago, we'd be riding

1206
01:16:14.880 --> 01:16:17.840
around on the forklift, oh manmore. And I was like, Oh,

1207
01:16:17.880 --> 01:16:20.399
that's such a bummer. They don't
let you ride the forklift with your kid

1208
01:16:20.399 --> 01:16:25.159
anymore. I guess not. It's
like kind of bumms like different times.

1209
01:16:25.359 --> 01:16:28.399
Yeah, at different times, he
was kind of bummed. I used to

1210
01:16:28.439 --> 01:16:31.079
get to drive the front endloader and
stuff. We'd go to construction sites,

1211
01:16:31.239 --> 01:16:38.039
but they don't do that anymore.
Let me shoot him down, So but

1212
01:16:38.119 --> 01:16:41.800
he what's on your bench, I
am. I am building this jewelry box.

1213
01:16:41.880 --> 01:16:44.800
I went in. I should have
done what Dave did, but I

1214
01:16:45.640 --> 01:16:48.239
so I don't have room for power
tools. And frankly, I am myself

1215
01:16:48.279 --> 01:16:51.119
too dangerous to be around a power
tool. Like the tools not dangerous.

1216
01:16:51.119 --> 01:16:54.800
I'm an idiot. I was sharing
will before. I've got cuts in my

1217
01:16:54.800 --> 01:16:57.720
hand for my hand tools. So
I'm doing it hand tools. And then

1218
01:16:57.760 --> 01:17:00.119
I think I mentioned this before.
When I was starting to get in to

1219
01:17:00.159 --> 01:17:03.039
it, Everybody's like, go my
dad, which so missus. My dad

1220
01:17:03.039 --> 01:17:05.359
said it. I ignored it,
and then everything else was like, go

1221
01:17:06.039 --> 01:17:11.840
buy pine and build something. I
was like, fuck that non bon retto,

1222
01:17:12.039 --> 01:17:15.760
motherfucker. Really Jesus dude, I'm
diving in. So I've been working

1223
01:17:15.840 --> 01:17:23.319
on that. It's just really hard
to work, right, It's like everything.

1224
01:17:23.319 --> 01:17:26.000
I'm like, boy, when I
watched their videos and they're using these

1225
01:17:26.000 --> 01:17:28.960
tools, it's like knife through hot
butter. When I go at it,

1226
01:17:29.159 --> 01:17:33.479
it's like marble, uh and everything
tears out and it's horrible. But I

1227
01:17:33.560 --> 01:17:38.520
finally have a man a power persevered. I'm on second half of that jewelry

1228
01:17:38.520 --> 01:17:41.199
box. It took me about a
month and a half to do the first

1229
01:17:41.199 --> 01:17:45.359
set of dovetails by hand. Jesus, I finished them. Well, this

1230
01:17:45.399 --> 01:17:47.000
is a month and a half on
my dad time, right, so like

1231
01:17:47.039 --> 01:17:50.279
four every three weeks, so about
four hours. And then it took me

1232
01:17:50.640 --> 01:17:56.079
last weekend from start to finish.
I did all four corners of dovetails on

1233
01:17:56.119 --> 01:17:59.159
the other one one weekend. I
was so proud of. My wife could

1234
01:17:59.199 --> 01:18:03.039
not understand why I kept walking out
with this box and like she just was

1235
01:18:03.079 --> 01:18:06.319
like that's great, and I was
like just walking around this frame, this

1236
01:18:06.520 --> 01:18:09.760
Marcus and a box to be like
no, no, look, just like

1237
01:18:10.079 --> 01:18:13.239
I get a tweetie like getting in
your chair stroking the box, kind of

1238
01:18:13.279 --> 01:18:15.439
like showing she was on the phone, like I had some problems at home

1239
01:18:15.439 --> 01:18:18.520
with like her mom and stuff,
and I'm like shoving, like slowly moving

1240
01:18:18.600 --> 01:18:21.920
the box, but like look at
what I made, mom, Look look

1241
01:18:21.960 --> 01:18:27.520
what I made. And then you
then you start saying the worst line ever

1242
01:18:27.560 --> 01:18:30.600
that you get from being an amateur
hobbyist. We're like she's like, oh,

1243
01:18:30.680 --> 01:18:33.039
yeah, you know, we could
really I could make that. Yeah,

1244
01:18:33.119 --> 01:18:35.960
well I can make that, and
then she's like you know, and

1245
01:18:35.960 --> 01:18:40.439
then you're sitting there and you're like
just like being sixty dollars to buy it

1246
01:18:42.560 --> 01:18:45.640
your consumers culture. She has said, I trust you to make that call,

1247
01:18:45.920 --> 01:18:48.880
because I've said it so many times
with this boy where it's just like,

1248
01:18:49.239 --> 01:18:51.119
you know, so, you know, if we were to get a

1249
01:18:51.119 --> 01:18:54.640
house and stuff, like you know
what if we had like a nice new

1250
01:18:54.720 --> 01:18:58.600
chest of drawers and a bed.
If he made a new bed for Max,

1251
01:18:59.199 --> 01:19:01.720
it's like, would you would you
let him sleep in it? She's

1252
01:19:01.840 --> 01:19:06.319
like, I trust you to make
that. I said to Nicole, not

1253
01:19:06.520 --> 01:19:15.520
just yesterday, maybe I could make
a baby gate there you go for the

1254
01:19:15.600 --> 01:19:18.199
steps lutton for puny. Yeah,
because that's what I want, is to

1255
01:19:18.199 --> 01:19:24.199
make something that I would make.
Yeah, and yeah, sure. The

1256
01:19:24.239 --> 01:19:27.119
fear with this has always you end
up with like the Homer Simpson version of

1257
01:19:27.199 --> 01:19:30.600
the thing, right, like the
the your tongue sticking out and you're having

1258
01:19:30.600 --> 01:19:34.359
your thumb lined up there and you're, well, so making this jewelry box.

1259
01:19:34.439 --> 01:19:39.159
It's she designed it, which was
awesome. It's uh, it was,

1260
01:19:39.239 --> 01:19:42.119
it's it's actually been really great.
Like I jumped in way too deep,

1261
01:19:42.119 --> 01:19:45.840
but I finally feel like I'm getting
a great excuse to buy new tools.

1262
01:19:45.880 --> 01:19:48.560
No, I really think I'm getting
better. But having made the thing

1263
01:19:48.560 --> 01:19:50.800
out of red oak. My dad
did a lot of woodworking when I was

1264
01:19:50.800 --> 01:19:54.640
younger, and so I kind of
knew about it. But he was definitely

1265
01:19:54.680 --> 01:19:57.600
a power tool guy, and like
now he's getting actually more into hand tools.

1266
01:19:57.880 --> 01:20:00.840
I did not realize how dense and
heavy this was gonna be. And

1267
01:20:00.880 --> 01:20:05.600
now it's like the eighty pound jewelry
box that is made of solid oak.

1268
01:20:06.079 --> 01:20:10.399
I didn't realize what it uh,
you know, it's probably like a foot

1269
01:20:10.520 --> 01:20:13.800
so it stands vertically and then it
kind of ope swings open, like two

1270
01:20:13.840 --> 01:20:16.159
sides open up, the kind of
like the room. Yeah, what do

1271
01:20:16.199 --> 01:20:20.119
you put in there? Your Italian
horns? Yeah? Change, Yeah,

1272
01:20:20.119 --> 01:20:24.119
there's gold. Change from the bottom. The crosses are a little longer.

1273
01:20:26.399 --> 01:20:29.760
Well, she wants to like hang
her necklaces from it and like have bracelets

1274
01:20:29.800 --> 01:20:31.840
and stuff hanging up. But she
I was like when I showed it,

1275
01:20:31.920 --> 01:20:35.720
the first one I gave it to
and she was like, Jesus, but

1276
01:20:36.039 --> 01:20:40.159
this is like eight pounds. So
I was like, it's red oak,

1277
01:20:40.560 --> 01:20:45.439
it's it's it'll last a lifetime.
Did you put velvet? I think we're

1278
01:20:45.479 --> 01:20:49.359
gonna put some velvet or felt or
something on the bottom. We're not there

1279
01:20:49.439 --> 01:20:53.840
yet, but you can see if
you follow the corners. I should have

1280
01:20:53.920 --> 01:20:58.640
numbered them from beginning to end.
You can see the worst dovetails down to

1281
01:20:58.640 --> 01:21:00.760
where I am now. You can
see my aggression over time. That's kind

1282
01:21:00.800 --> 01:21:05.600
of like always starting the back.
Yeah, that's your tool organization. It's

1283
01:21:05.600 --> 01:21:10.399
shitty. They're on my jazz cabinet, like you know, like half of

1284
01:21:10.439 --> 01:21:12.960
my time is half of Well,
they're all hand tools, right, so

1285
01:21:13.119 --> 01:21:15.199
I organize them. I put them
all nice, but I don't have a

1286
01:21:15.239 --> 01:21:16.439
lot of room. You have some
of those rolly things, like the things

1287
01:21:16.439 --> 01:21:18.840
you slide into and then you roll
them all out a tool roll, yeah,

1288
01:21:19.079 --> 01:21:21.479
like a leather tool roll for some
of them. But like half my

1289
01:21:21.560 --> 01:21:25.760
time since it's hand tool stuff.
I'll work for a day and then I

1290
01:21:25.880 --> 01:21:29.199
got a oil everything and put it
back and make sure Max can't get to

1291
01:21:29.239 --> 01:21:31.760
it. And then the next day
is like sharpening everything again because I'm working

1292
01:21:31.840 --> 01:21:34.279
because I'm an idiot and working on
like a super dense wood and everything gets

1293
01:21:34.319 --> 01:21:38.239
dull. So it's slow going.
But like I'm learning a lot and I

1294
01:21:38.279 --> 01:21:41.680
think it's super fun. So I
think the hand tools are are I mean,

1295
01:21:42.039 --> 01:21:44.960
okay, it's hard to cut off
your finger with a like a handsall

1296
01:21:45.039 --> 01:21:49.479
you stop. You really, you're
really gonna work at it, but you

1297
01:21:49.520 --> 01:21:53.600
know you can slice yourself. Chisels
they're dangerous as hell. They are super

1298
01:21:53.600 --> 01:21:56.720
They're a razor sharp and you just
never put your hand on the receiving Endea.

1299
01:21:56.760 --> 01:21:59.680
Do you have a good bench face? I have. You should get

1300
01:21:59.680 --> 01:22:04.399
a bench. I've got a jazz
machine and I'm scare foot put get it.

1301
01:22:04.439 --> 01:22:06.720
You need to get a Jauss machine. Vice. That's a bench.

1302
01:22:06.840 --> 01:22:11.119
Vice. I've got one of those
like workmates that they those like pop up

1303
01:22:11.359 --> 01:22:15.119
kind of contractor tables. Yeah,
that collapsible. You know, it's not

1304
01:22:15.159 --> 01:22:16.720
great, but it does have a
has a really shitty vice. The big

1305
01:22:16.800 --> 01:22:21.239
challenge for me is that I have
access to advice from people who are at

1306
01:22:21.239 --> 01:22:25.680
a dramatically higher skill level than me. Oh yeah, that would that would

1307
01:22:25.680 --> 01:22:28.159
just make me not do it.
Well, no, no it's not.

1308
01:22:28.520 --> 01:22:31.319
It's not because the problem is,
like if you ask Adam something, he

1309
01:22:31.439 --> 01:22:36.199
has years of advice, years of
experience making things as quickly as possible for

1310
01:22:36.479 --> 01:22:41.279
film production. Yeah, so he's
his answer to everything is just use some

1311
01:22:41.319 --> 01:22:45.600
lu on. Put some lu on
in there. What luan is a composite

1312
01:22:45.680 --> 01:22:49.479
material that is incredibly inexpensive, but
you can cut it like wood. So

1313
01:22:49.600 --> 01:22:54.119
like, if you want to make
bendable plywood furniture, you can get flexible

1314
01:22:54.199 --> 01:22:58.720
luan and then just put veneers on
the outside call it a day. But

1315
01:22:58.760 --> 01:23:01.640
you are looking for more handcraft,
No, I actually have turned the corner

1316
01:23:01.680 --> 01:23:04.079
from into just making it. I
want to make. I want to make

1317
01:23:04.159 --> 01:23:10.640
stuff that is uh much more modern
than handcrafted. Yeah yeah, No,

1318
01:23:10.720 --> 01:23:13.479
the mine and my stuff right now
is right angle city. Yeah, I

1319
01:23:13.520 --> 01:23:18.239
think right angles. I Well,
so I did pay which came out awesome.

1320
01:23:18.239 --> 01:23:21.039
They turned out really did you see
him? Okay? Actually no,

1321
01:23:21.079 --> 01:23:26.600
I saw the real thing. Well
maybe anyway, I was like, as

1322
01:23:26.640 --> 01:23:28.960
I was building those, I wasn't
sure if they were going to work,

1323
01:23:29.479 --> 01:23:31.439
Like, I wasn't sure if they
were going to be strong enough to support

1324
01:23:31.479 --> 01:23:36.000
the weight of themselves without like some
piece collapsing or one of those right angles

1325
01:23:36.039 --> 01:23:40.560
falling. And like once that's lasted
a year now Yeah, so I feel

1326
01:23:40.560 --> 01:23:45.479
like through the woods blue is strong, glue is crazy strong strong. Well

1327
01:23:45.520 --> 01:23:48.520
I did, I did biscuits for
that. So do you have a biscuit

1328
01:23:49.199 --> 01:23:54.399
A biscuit cutter? Lingo man no, I know we're all joint. Half

1329
01:23:54.399 --> 01:23:57.359
of the half of the appeal of
this hobby is just spitting the jargon,

1330
01:23:57.439 --> 01:23:59.680
isn't it's a whole thing. I
want to talk about your butt joints in

1331
01:23:59.680 --> 01:24:03.079
your tannions and your datos and your
CRUs And do you have a Japanese hand

1332
01:24:03.079 --> 01:24:09.920
saw pulse of No, get one
of those. I have. I have

1333
01:24:09.960 --> 01:24:13.760
a flush saw which is similar.
Is it like cut cur Yeah? Yeah,

1334
01:24:13.840 --> 01:24:15.680
real small curf cuts on the pool, not on the push. Yeah,

1335
01:24:15.680 --> 01:24:18.439
pull is that's what Japanese hands on. So I've got one of these.

1336
01:24:18.439 --> 01:24:21.640
So it's bendable so you can cut
the flush dowels uff that are great.

1337
01:24:23.239 --> 01:24:25.439
Yeah, there's a lot of awesome
curf. That's a great word.

1338
01:24:25.520 --> 01:24:28.520
It's a good one. That curf
is the thing that is left when you

1339
01:24:28.560 --> 01:24:30.880
go through with the saw, right, it's the whole. It's the width

1340
01:24:30.880 --> 01:24:32.600
it gets lost. So like if
you were kind of way through a piece

1341
01:24:32.640 --> 01:24:35.720
of wood and then pull it up, that would be the curf. The

1342
01:24:35.800 --> 01:24:43.399
curf is the thickness of the cut. It's yours. Yeah, right,

1343
01:24:43.439 --> 01:24:45.159
when you if you want to cut
on one side or the other of the

1344
01:24:45.199 --> 01:24:49.039
line, because when you cut on
the line. You using one board,

1345
01:24:49.119 --> 01:24:53.039
you're cutting a board, and you're
you're, you know, like breaking down

1346
01:24:53.039 --> 01:24:56.600
a four by eight sheet, apply
wood into nine inch thick pieces, mentioning

1347
01:24:56.680 --> 01:24:59.199
your stock. Yeah, like if
you if I had fund that up,

1348
01:24:59.239 --> 01:25:00.279
it could have cost four hundred dollars, but if I did it right,

1349
01:25:00.319 --> 01:25:03.039
it cost one hundred and sixty.
So I love that you're taking all the

1350
01:25:03.119 --> 01:25:06.760
skill and then you made a tetris
shelf. Yeah, and now you're building

1351
01:25:06.800 --> 01:25:12.399
in our cake cabinet. So it
at least stays like the main hobby.

1352
01:25:12.520 --> 01:25:15.239
Well the next so the next thing
is for me is probably like real furniture.

1353
01:25:15.239 --> 01:25:18.880
I'm gonna have to Like the IKEA
crib is going to be out growing

1354
01:25:18.920 --> 01:25:25.800
in the next year or so.
Yeah, that was great, it's the

1355
01:25:25.840 --> 01:25:28.640
best. I gotta do a post
all the kids stuff. But yeah,

1356
01:25:28.760 --> 01:25:30.800
I need to make a bed.
I think I think I'm gonna make a

1357
01:25:30.800 --> 01:25:32.680
bed. Would you trust yourself to
make a bed? The tetriselves lasted so

1358
01:25:32.720 --> 01:25:34.960
far, so yeah, why not
put those on their side? Yeah,

1359
01:25:35.000 --> 01:25:38.159
put the mattress on. You guys
are gonna get into wood working too.

1360
01:25:38.439 --> 01:25:41.680
It's fantastic. You try to do
them every month. I hear there you

1361
01:25:41.680 --> 01:25:45.279
go. I uh did a little
growing up. I seem to remember a

1362
01:25:45.319 --> 01:25:48.479
lot. It's probably just like school
projects. And I built some picnic tables

1363
01:25:48.479 --> 01:25:53.359
for my Eagle Scout project. It's
probably the last salt treating I did.

1364
01:25:54.119 --> 01:25:56.760
What's that you salt treat for that? I don't know what that is.

1365
01:25:57.039 --> 01:26:00.119
That's a salt treat. Salt treat
is lumber that you treat with chemicals to

1366
01:26:00.119 --> 01:26:04.119
make it resistant to woods and and
fungus. I thought that's called no pressure

1367
01:26:04.119 --> 01:26:08.720
treated. In old days we call
it. This is a regional dialect thing

1368
01:26:09.199 --> 01:26:11.399
the South, we call it salt
treat. Yeah, pressure treated where it

1369
01:26:11.439 --> 01:26:18.319
doesn't it doesn't. You just salt
that wood keeps talking. Yeah, sliced

1370
01:26:18.359 --> 01:26:21.439
pork where I'm from. Thank you
very much. Brad. You're gonna you're

1371
01:26:21.439 --> 01:26:27.560
gonna get all my middle aged and
my preferred use for wood is to split

1372
01:26:27.560 --> 01:26:29.640
it and then burn it. There
you go. I do that. I

1373
01:26:29.760 --> 01:26:30.840
like. I like doing that when
I'm back homing. But that's about it.

1374
01:26:31.479 --> 01:26:34.359
Actually, I don't even split it. Usually you just put the logs

1375
01:26:34.359 --> 01:26:36.920
on, just like the slow bird
might. Ye. Yeah, my parents

1376
01:26:36.920 --> 01:26:42.000
have an incredible wood stove spare of
the air many did you play any video

1377
01:26:42.039 --> 01:26:45.319
games? Uh? So, I
turn a decent amount of time doing that

1378
01:26:45.359 --> 01:26:48.920
stuff in the garage, but I
did. Uh, I've been playing Spunking

1379
01:26:48.920 --> 01:26:53.319
on the Pew the Vita. I
do that too. Are we we should

1380
01:26:53.359 --> 01:26:57.319
be friends? We should be friends. If we're not, because it justsations.

1381
01:26:58.439 --> 01:27:00.720
I had like four I am notice
something like slow down in the frame

1382
01:27:00.840 --> 01:27:06.279
rate when I got to the ice
caves on the veto off. Yet every

1383
01:27:06.359 --> 01:27:11.119
time every time I make it to
the ice caves, I gonna listle down,

1384
01:27:11.199 --> 01:27:14.279
which was a little weird. I
know that. I know the original

1385
01:27:14.279 --> 01:27:16.000
developers didn't do that port, so
I don't know if that has anything.

1386
01:27:16.079 --> 01:27:18.479
It was weird because I never thought
that game would be like too demanding for

1387
01:27:18.640 --> 01:27:23.600
like a Vita. But maybe I'm
crazy. I played tomorrow Dark Souls is

1388
01:27:23.720 --> 01:27:26.039
kind of wrapping that up. I
think I've gotten everything I want to get

1389
01:27:26.039 --> 01:27:28.760
out of it. This is my
second time through and I was just looking

1390
01:27:28.800 --> 01:27:30.800
for some stories. Do you play
in the PC this time? Or yeah?

1391
01:27:30.800 --> 01:27:32.000
This was this was on the piece. Is it less frame rate on

1392
01:27:32.039 --> 01:27:35.399
the PC if you install the DS
fix? Yeah, okay for sure,

1393
01:27:35.520 --> 01:27:38.560
So d d S fix on the
locks the frame rate, but like you

1394
01:27:38.600 --> 01:27:41.840
go through Blacktown and it doesn't drop
down to yeah, I'm in black Town

1395
01:27:41.840 --> 01:27:43.760
now. I mean there's actually a
couple of spots. It's like with the

1396
01:27:43.840 --> 01:27:45.720
DS fix stuff. It's been like
a rock solid sixty for me right out

1397
01:27:45.760 --> 01:27:49.079
right up until black Town, and
there are definitely a few camera angles you

1398
01:27:49.119 --> 01:27:53.840
can get where it's like as Yeah, there were some of those boss fights,

1399
01:27:53.880 --> 01:27:56.560
just just like some of those boss
fights got hard specifically because of the

1400
01:27:56.600 --> 01:27:59.359
frame rate on that. It's it's
it's fine for me on the PC.

1401
01:27:59.479 --> 01:28:02.800
Yeah, really nice. I played
some of that. We have a quick

1402
01:28:02.800 --> 01:28:09.119
look up. But you're talking about
Dungeon Keeper. I played Mighty Quest for

1403
01:28:09.159 --> 01:28:13.079
Epic Loot, which is going to
be it seems like a free to play

1404
01:28:13.159 --> 01:28:15.840
game. It's available on early Access
on Steam now by you be Soft,

1405
01:28:16.359 --> 01:28:20.159
and it's very similar to build a
dungeon to have other people run it and

1406
01:28:20.199 --> 01:28:23.960
you go out and you run dungeons. But it has a lot of those

1407
01:28:24.039 --> 01:28:27.920
free to play mechanics in it as
well. But it's a cartoony style and

1408
01:28:28.079 --> 01:28:30.640
I like it. I like the
way it looks. But otherwise on the

1409
01:28:30.640 --> 01:28:32.319
weekend, actually not too much,
just some stuff I've been playing around here

1410
01:28:32.359 --> 01:28:36.039
for work. You and I both
played a little bit of the Sun at

1411
01:28:36.159 --> 01:28:40.399
Night. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and that is a quick look up

1412
01:28:40.399 --> 01:28:43.600
now. Yeah, that's a wacky
one. Yeah. Is it about the

1413
01:28:43.640 --> 01:28:46.239
sun being up at nighttime? No? I think the Sun at night has

1414
01:28:46.239 --> 01:28:50.039
probably got to be some kind of
like this, Dave is a alternate history

1415
01:28:50.600 --> 01:28:59.399
where the Soviet space dog like a
comes back down to find Earth ruined by

1416
01:28:59.640 --> 01:29:03.520
that's stops. Not only that the
dog, the dog and the course of

1417
01:29:03.520 --> 01:29:06.079
returning to Earth. The dog becomes
a cyborg and learns how to talk,

1418
01:29:06.600 --> 01:29:10.479
or at least he's wearing some power
armor. Done. Is it made by

1419
01:29:10.760 --> 01:29:15.319
and the dog is an Estonian developers. It seems it seems to have been

1420
01:29:15.359 --> 01:29:17.359
written by native English speakers. But
it's a lot of there are a lot

1421
01:29:17.399 --> 01:29:20.560
of dialogue trees story so it's like
you left, It's like Fallout but with

1422
01:29:21.000 --> 01:29:26.560
you play like a dog side scrolling
shooter though that's the Yeah, it's kind

1423
01:29:26.600 --> 01:29:31.079
of arid of the it's weird.
Of the conspiracy theories that exists, that's

1424
01:29:31.119 --> 01:29:34.960
the only one that I can kind
of like, somewhe get behind is still

1425
01:29:34.960 --> 01:29:40.640
alive. Know that that somebody died
in space. Oh yes, before we

1426
01:29:40.680 --> 01:29:44.279
got there, Like I was thinking
there was a there was a pre Eori

1427
01:29:44.359 --> 01:29:46.920
gigar and yeah, oh yeah,
but yeah before before they got up.

1428
01:29:47.000 --> 01:29:49.800
Somebody's killed a lot of dudes over
the period that like we would know if

1429
01:29:49.800 --> 01:29:59.520
the Russian facts about the two Italian
brothers who had a Ham radio and picked

1430
01:29:59.600 --> 01:30:08.079
up a cosmonaut trying to contact Moscow
before I think it was before. It

1431
01:30:08.239 --> 01:30:13.960
wasn't major Tom, you know,
it might be confusing that with another story

1432
01:30:14.079 --> 01:30:19.319
that I think Mario brothers, that
Italian brother they were in a pipe,

1433
01:30:20.319 --> 01:30:29.600
there was a there was a wasn't
a sound. I don't worry about it.

1434
01:30:29.680 --> 01:30:32.800
Let's go get some mushrooms. They
are there fast. There was that

1435
01:30:33.039 --> 01:30:36.840
crazy there was. There was one
rushed space flight where I can't remember what

1436
01:30:36.880 --> 01:30:41.840
it was that happened, but like
you know, one re entry like the

1437
01:30:41.840 --> 01:30:45.840
the heat of reentry creates the plasma
around craft that disrupts radio communications and stuff,

1438
01:30:45.880 --> 01:30:50.880
and somehow the guy like basically like
fried on the way down because he

1439
01:30:50.920 --> 01:30:54.119
wasn't able to communicate. That's the
one. The other one I was going

1440
01:30:54.159 --> 01:30:59.359
to mention he knew going up that
that was gonna happen because he lost some

1441
01:30:59.399 --> 01:31:02.640
of his heat. Shill no launched. He's like, this is but he

1442
01:31:02.680 --> 01:31:06.199
needed to do it for like political
reasons because like when was this This is

1443
01:31:06.319 --> 01:31:10.079
during this Cold War? I think
right after Gagarian? Yeah, it was

1444
01:31:10.119 --> 01:31:19.119
it was early, very specific timing
there. Yes, I swear Free Love

1445
01:31:19.279 --> 01:31:25.079
was probably still cooking on two.
Might have been pre Free Love. You

1446
01:31:25.119 --> 01:31:28.279
guys saw that people think that the
Atlanta snow is because of chem trails.

1447
01:31:28.359 --> 01:31:30.119
Right, wait, the Atlanta snow. It snowed in Atlanta last week and

1448
01:31:30.319 --> 01:31:33.119
the fucking end of times down there, is it because of chem trails?

1449
01:31:33.119 --> 01:31:36.520
They thought it was because of chem
trails because that snows are set burns dirty.

1450
01:31:36.600 --> 01:31:40.279
The snow burns dirty. It turns
out they were just using but change,

1451
01:31:40.279 --> 01:31:43.880
which is a dirty burning fuel and
makes everything black dirty. You put

1452
01:31:43.880 --> 01:31:46.359
a lighter like a bit underneath the
snowball. They were saying. They were

1453
01:31:46.359 --> 01:31:50.760
like, it turns black. It's
kem trailing yea, the snow, the

1454
01:31:50.880 --> 01:31:56.399
fucking it's it's fucking Obama man.
Well, because they've been seating a luminum

1455
01:31:56.800 --> 01:32:02.359
Sah and Obama okay, are seating
aluminum into the clouds right to make it

1456
01:32:02.399 --> 01:32:06.680
snow in Atlanta, get you sick
so they can use it healthcare. Got

1457
01:32:06.720 --> 01:32:15.000
it care in the NSA and snowden
fucker. Yeah, making the snow in

1458
01:32:15.039 --> 01:32:20.199
Atlanta with aluminum in the time and
it's not a oh my god, in

1459
01:32:20.680 --> 01:32:25.920
make sure you get shut down the
roads you can't get clear. They've made

1460
01:32:26.000 --> 01:32:30.399
Luigia doctor. Tell me about the
dog. Tell me more about this dog.

1461
01:32:30.640 --> 01:32:33.159
It's like alternate history game. Because
I have it does sound interesting.

1462
01:32:33.479 --> 01:32:35.960
Here's here's the best part I read
on our wiki for that game, that

1463
01:32:36.239 --> 01:32:41.760
this developer is going to make two
other separate games that are other alternate histories

1464
01:32:41.760 --> 01:32:44.359
of like you guys have a wiki. I always wanted one of those.

1465
01:32:45.239 --> 01:32:50.520
Stay. I'm working on it the
office. I'm finally working on it.

1466
01:32:54.159 --> 01:32:58.800
That's that's the rent. Everybody.
Everybody can have one ound to everybody.

1467
01:32:58.840 --> 01:33:01.239
What's the name of that game?
The Sun at Night? Sun at Night?

1468
01:33:01.439 --> 01:33:03.720
Is it on Steamer? Don't have
to buy somebody's else. H It's

1469
01:33:03.960 --> 01:33:08.880
it's on Steam, green Light.
I think it's for sale on goog dot

1470
01:33:08.880 --> 01:33:13.920
com, gone and some Humble stuff. Okay, maybe de surah. Let's

1471
01:33:13.920 --> 01:33:18.920
do news news and here, uh, let's do some news music. We'll

1472
01:33:18.960 --> 01:33:33.800
do this. Got gorking devils,
Bruce. He said, it's not advice,

1473
01:33:34.119 --> 01:33:51.760
but to you to drink the devils
is not adv to you. Live

1474
01:33:53.199 --> 01:33:56.520
right now. A special treat for
you guys who's here. Patrick Kleppick,

1475
01:33:57.079 --> 01:34:03.800
the newsman, Shytown's own dog Chicago. That is what I know. Keep

1476
01:34:03.800 --> 01:34:09.960
getting ready for him, big peck
clippics. It's coming at you. That's

1477
01:34:10.039 --> 01:34:15.720
gross back. Say hi to shot
Town. I don't want to say hi

1478
01:34:15.760 --> 01:34:19.800
to that either. He is a
nice dog. He's got a nice dog.

1479
01:34:20.199 --> 01:34:25.479
Patrick Cleippick, Hi, Patrick,
My dog doesn't like the cold.

1480
01:34:25.920 --> 01:34:28.840
Oh yeah, you do. You
have to get a jacket. Uh.

1481
01:34:28.920 --> 01:34:31.960
The jacket's not really the thing.
It's the boots, which I was I

1482
01:34:32.000 --> 01:34:36.600
am anti dog clothing. I think
that you know, it's degrading, it's

1483
01:34:36.600 --> 01:34:44.399
degrading. But so then when we
moved here and it got uh negative forty

1484
01:34:45.039 --> 01:34:48.079
she's during one week with a wind
chill, and I would take my dog

1485
01:34:48.079 --> 01:34:51.079
out and she would just sit down
and I'd be like, god damn it,

1486
01:34:51.159 --> 01:34:56.199
Like yeah, it's dog is just
being she's just acclimating. Uh.

1487
01:34:56.239 --> 01:34:59.000
And then we would go and like
I'd pick her up and like take her

1488
01:34:59.000 --> 01:35:01.239
in your spots and then you know, you try and find other dog pee

1489
01:35:01.399 --> 01:35:04.039
and then you set your dog near
it, they sniff it, they pe

1490
01:35:05.399 --> 01:35:10.279
you're done, bring them back inside. But then she kept she kept sitting

1491
01:35:10.359 --> 01:35:14.800
down. And then I found out
it's because for a lot of breeds of

1492
01:35:14.840 --> 01:35:18.960
dogs, the salt that we use
to get rid of snow like just scratches

1493
01:35:19.000 --> 01:35:23.680
away at their skin, right,
and as I've heard, also gets in

1494
01:35:23.880 --> 01:35:26.760
the between the pads on their on
their feet too. And then yeah,

1495
01:35:26.800 --> 01:35:30.600
so my dog was like sitting down
because I'm in pain, sir, please

1496
01:35:30.800 --> 01:35:33.399
please stop drag you can't go on
my feet hurt. Have you figured out

1497
01:35:33.439 --> 01:35:36.199
a solution? Yeah, you get
those dumb boots. And then I just

1498
01:35:38.039 --> 01:35:43.680
realized that I realized with my dog
is wearing a jacket and it's wearing boots.

1499
01:35:43.720 --> 01:35:45.760
But I'm married, so it doesn't
really matter anymore. So who cares?

1500
01:35:45.960 --> 01:35:48.039
Can you forget about the dog boots? I want to hear about the

1501
01:35:48.079 --> 01:35:53.520
dog litter box? Yeah, something
to those. Can we interest you in

1502
01:35:53.560 --> 01:35:57.600
woodwork? Can you keep? Does
that work? I think you just take

1503
01:35:57.640 --> 01:36:00.720
this in the next step and like
you wear get big trench coat and put

1504
01:36:00.720 --> 01:36:04.520
the dog as your head with like
a monocle and a top hat and then

1505
01:36:04.560 --> 01:36:08.920
like walk into stores and have the
dog asked these like the bathroom or something

1506
01:36:09.159 --> 01:36:12.880
that's stick your arms around. And
that's where I'm that dogs don't need to

1507
01:36:12.920 --> 01:36:15.479
be dressed up and they do need
to be the head. Well to sort

1508
01:36:15.479 --> 01:36:19.319
of to related to that, as
Brad's point is that we started getting very

1509
01:36:19.359 --> 01:36:25.079
desperate in the negative forty degree weather
where we would she wouldn't even leave the

1510
01:36:25.079 --> 01:36:28.039
the apartment. And I don't blame
her, like a small dog. It's

1511
01:36:28.079 --> 01:36:30.199
a small dog. And it's not
even that it's just negative forty, Like

1512
01:36:30.199 --> 01:36:32.680
it's negative forty because of the windshiels. So you have like these gale winds

1513
01:36:32.800 --> 01:36:35.520
outside of our apartment that like I
don't even want to go out in.

1514
01:36:35.560 --> 01:36:38.479
So my dog is just like I'm
not doing this, and I was like,

1515
01:36:38.520 --> 01:36:43.000
well this is this is not a
long term solution to this problem.

1516
01:36:43.039 --> 01:36:47.560
Dog, Like we're here. So
my mom had bought like I just considered

1517
01:36:47.560 --> 01:36:50.319
it to be a joke and I
just threw it in storage like one of

1518
01:36:50.319 --> 01:36:56.960
those potty pads, like the little
things the patches of grass something does have

1519
01:36:57.000 --> 01:37:00.640
a little fire hydrant on it.
No, but it's got like it claims

1520
01:37:00.680 --> 01:37:02.880
to have sense on it, but
you know, I just feel like that

1521
01:37:02.960 --> 01:37:05.560
must all just be like a bunch
of BS. So I just put it

1522
01:37:05.560 --> 01:37:11.119
down in desperation one afternoon. Uh, And now she uses it like clockwork,

1523
01:37:11.399 --> 01:37:15.239
like every the days that are bad, she immediately goes to that.

1524
01:37:15.439 --> 01:37:16.880
She scratches it, and she goes
on it. And I don't know,

1525
01:37:16.960 --> 01:37:20.760
maybe it is all BS, but
it worked for us. And now like

1526
01:37:20.800 --> 01:37:25.720
they're I don't have to clean up
you're in every every four hours. So

1527
01:37:25.840 --> 01:37:28.640
does she poop on it? She
doesn't poop on it. But it's a

1528
01:37:28.680 --> 01:37:31.159
small dog. So when I feel
like it's just preparing me for children,

1529
01:37:31.279 --> 01:37:35.039
Like I'm just getting used to the
idea of feces being everywhere, so I'm

1530
01:37:35.039 --> 01:37:45.439
just acclimated when I make that transition
your meals, what is that? What

1531
01:37:45.720 --> 01:37:54.359
understand? I don't even understand where
you go with It's like mustard colored in

1532
01:37:54.399 --> 01:38:01.000
the mustard phase. I was gonna
say it, just throw chili around the

1533
01:38:01.039 --> 01:38:06.399
house. We started. We gave
her chilunch. She learned to unzip her

1534
01:38:06.399 --> 01:38:10.520
sleep sack the other day, which
seems like it would be great, except

1535
01:38:10.800 --> 01:38:15.159
now there's access to the diaper area
in the nighttime. I'm just waiting for

1536
01:38:15.199 --> 01:38:40.760
her to painople all gross. It's
all great. So yeah, Patrick's Patrick.

1537
01:38:40.880 --> 01:38:45.520
What else is news? Nintendo announced
like a bunch of stuff last week.

1538
01:38:45.560 --> 01:38:48.880
They speaking shitty news. Yeah,
and well, yeah, they've they've

1539
01:38:48.880 --> 01:38:53.840
been clearly been doing poorly financially.
And the big rumor coming out of h

1540
01:38:54.079 --> 01:38:57.880
and I forget how you pronounced it's
like the Nica. I think that's Nintendo

1541
01:38:58.720 --> 01:39:03.560
Nintendo. Oh okay, I think
the Japanese papers the Nika. I believe

1542
01:39:03.600 --> 01:39:05.840
that's how you pronounce it, but
I might be getting it wrong. Anyway,

1543
01:39:05.760 --> 01:39:09.640
they had a big rumor that and
it's not even a really room with

1544
01:39:09.680 --> 01:39:12.079
them. They're like, that's like
the equivalent of like the Wall Street Journal

1545
01:39:12.199 --> 01:39:15.319
reporting on something, So you know, it's a rumor, it's anonymous sources.

1546
01:39:15.399 --> 01:39:17.960
But they've been incredible with Nintendo stuff
in the past, saying that you

1547
01:39:18.000 --> 01:39:23.119
know, They're big solution going forward
is to produce mini games for smartphones.

1548
01:39:23.520 --> 01:39:27.399
Uh. The idea being that if
they produced stuff for other platforms, it

1549
01:39:27.439 --> 01:39:31.840
would drive sales on their platforms,
and WATA had cited in the past that

1550
01:39:31.880 --> 01:39:35.000
there was precedent for this. This
game called Puzzles and Dragons, which I

1551
01:39:35.039 --> 01:39:39.199
don't know if that's popular over here. Is that a thing? It's pretty

1552
01:39:39.199 --> 01:39:42.960
big. I don't know that it's
as big as that game is insanely successful,

1553
01:39:43.600 --> 01:39:46.079
right and it's and it's a free
to play thing that's hugely a successful

1554
01:39:46.119 --> 01:39:49.439
in Japan, but then went on
to sell millions of copies as a full

1555
01:39:49.439 --> 01:39:53.319
fledged three D S game. Uh, you know where they like, they

1556
01:39:53.680 --> 01:39:55.920
expanded it out and they you know, they made it into a you know,

1557
01:39:55.920 --> 01:39:58.640
a bigger, better thing that was
sort of like I guess the template

1558
01:39:58.720 --> 01:40:01.560
that people thought Nintendo might adopt is
you know, you kind of catch them

1559
01:40:01.600 --> 01:40:05.159
on the free to play stuff on
iOS and then maybe you you get them

1560
01:40:05.159 --> 01:40:08.359
to buy it them three ds.
But they didn't announced any of that stuff.

1561
01:40:08.560 --> 01:40:12.119
And uh, instead they said that
they're doing like a there's a bunch

1562
01:40:12.119 --> 01:40:15.760
of weird stuff, like no price
cut for the WU, the game pad's

1563
01:40:15.760 --> 01:40:19.520
becoming more important, Mario Kart's coming
in May, virtual console is gonna get

1564
01:40:19.560 --> 01:40:23.880
DS games, and they're gonna do
something with health. I don't know,

1565
01:40:24.000 --> 01:40:27.399
it's weird. Yeah, there we
go. It's about time. So what

1566
01:40:27.600 --> 01:40:30.520
does that mean that the WU game
pad is going to become more important.

1567
01:40:30.720 --> 01:40:33.239
Does that mean like that they'll integrate
with games better. Yeah, they said

1568
01:40:33.279 --> 01:40:38.479
Miamoto is assigned like to come up
with a new IP. I mean they're

1569
01:40:38.520 --> 01:40:41.399
basically I mean, they're doing what
Nintendo normally does, which is, you

1570
01:40:41.439 --> 01:40:44.439
know, they what would be worse
if they just gave up on the WU

1571
01:40:44.600 --> 01:40:47.560
and moved on and then pissed off
the loyal customers they do have, or

1572
01:40:47.840 --> 01:40:50.439
they you know, kind of ride
it out, try and make the best

1573
01:40:50.439 --> 01:40:55.039
of a bad situation, and you
know, just silently work on stuff in

1574
01:40:55.079 --> 01:40:59.399
the background while they have you know, eighty billion dollars in cash reserves or

1575
01:40:59.439 --> 01:41:02.079
something ridic It was like that that
they can burn through for the next two

1576
01:41:02.159 --> 01:41:05.439
years until they get where they want
to go. Well. And and like

1577
01:41:06.640 --> 01:41:10.479
if you look at the games that
were the big releases last year for the

1578
01:41:10.479 --> 01:41:14.199
WU, the majority of them did
nothing with the game pad to speak of,

1579
01:41:14.359 --> 01:41:18.199
Like Mario and Pickman. You could
both play game pad only or TV

1580
01:41:18.399 --> 01:41:24.600
only, right, Yeah, Pickman, but definitely Mario Wonderful one on one

1581
01:41:24.800 --> 01:41:29.039
did some some stuff, but it
wasn't essential, right, So I mean,

1582
01:41:29.279 --> 01:41:31.079
I I mean, I'm kind of
two sides, right. One is

1583
01:41:31.119 --> 01:41:33.119
that it would be nice to just
be able to buy that thing without the

1584
01:41:33.119 --> 01:41:36.560
expensive ass game pad attached. But
the other is that, you know,

1585
01:41:38.039 --> 01:41:41.000
if that's their differentiator, then lean
into it and see what they do.

1586
01:41:41.399 --> 01:41:44.239
Yeah, totally make that system unique
and show me why I need to buy

1587
01:41:44.319 --> 01:41:51.920
games on there. How is mia
motive at this point is fifty? Might

1588
01:41:53.000 --> 01:41:58.520
be sixty one? Yeah, I
just wonder how how long he can want

1589
01:41:58.520 --> 01:42:01.720
to keep bailing them out horrible at
Samurai Gun. Do you think what do

1590
01:42:01.720 --> 01:42:06.560
you think his first console was?
You got an Xbox One? Yeah?

1591
01:42:08.520 --> 01:42:12.399
Uh? So did the no price
cut or you said no massive press cut

1592
01:42:12.399 --> 01:42:14.880
on the EU? Was that they
can't actually something they announced ers they just

1593
01:42:14.920 --> 01:42:19.119
didn't need. I mean, they
really can't do a substantial price cut without

1594
01:42:19.640 --> 01:42:23.479
uh sort of you know, like
Will said, altering the game pad or

1595
01:42:23.520 --> 01:42:27.319
getting rid of it. That's the
albatross of the WU. Like three fourths

1596
01:42:27.399 --> 01:42:30.720
of the cost of the WEU is
that game pad, Jesus. Really,

1597
01:42:30.239 --> 01:42:34.199
So it's you know, I might
be hYP hyperbolizing the numbers, but it's

1598
01:42:34.239 --> 01:42:38.000
you know, it's something along those
lines where the vast majority I mean that's

1599
01:42:38.039 --> 01:42:40.319
we hardware, right, Yeah,
look at look at what's in there,

1600
01:42:40.359 --> 01:42:42.199
you know, we plause. Yeah, look at what's in the console.

1601
01:42:42.239 --> 01:42:49.319
You know, it's all well it's
last last yeah yeah, man selts short.

1602
01:42:50.279 --> 01:42:53.960
So what do you think's going on? When are we going to find

1603
01:42:54.000 --> 01:42:58.960
out anything with this ninten When do
you think this strategy affects us as consumers?

1604
01:42:59.000 --> 01:43:02.119
I could just say twenty fourteen thing
ors just like twenty fifteen sixteen stuff.

1605
01:43:02.439 --> 01:43:04.520
I mean, one of the things
they said, and they're like Investor

1606
01:43:04.600 --> 01:43:09.880
Q and A, was that you
know, they they recognize that, you

1607
01:43:09.880 --> 01:43:13.039
know, having a single sort of
you know, they have an intended network

1608
01:43:13.039 --> 01:43:15.520
ID. You know, Watch obviously
is on now on three ds and is

1609
01:43:15.560 --> 01:43:18.239
on WEU and have some ways of
linking up. But you know, they

1610
01:43:18.239 --> 01:43:21.760
don't necessarily track all of your purchases
in the way that you would like.

1611
01:43:21.840 --> 01:43:25.279
You know, if you buy you
know, Super Mario Brothers on your three

1612
01:43:25.319 --> 01:43:28.880
DS, you don't that doesn't unmock
on your WEU or you can't even pay

1613
01:43:28.880 --> 01:43:31.640
a dollar to maybe get access to
that. And in their Investor Q and

1614
01:43:31.680 --> 01:43:35.319
A they pointed out that, hey, we need to not do that stuff

1615
01:43:35.439 --> 01:43:40.920
and do that stuff in the future. But you know, they the indication

1616
01:43:40.960 --> 01:43:45.399
from there being that well, that's
probably not going to happen. Happen now,

1617
01:43:45.800 --> 01:43:47.960
that's probably with the next thing.
I mean, they've they've you know,

1618
01:43:48.000 --> 01:43:51.840
they've they've made steps, like their
hardware divisions are now they work together.

1619
01:43:53.239 --> 01:43:57.640
Before the three ds, uh the
or I guess handheld and console divisions

1620
01:43:57.920 --> 01:44:02.399
worked completely separately. They were different
tracks, and now they work together,

1621
01:44:02.520 --> 01:44:06.840
and you would imagine there'd be a
unified ecosystem, but not necessarily sort of

1622
01:44:06.880 --> 01:44:12.640
the dream scenario of, you know, a handheld with an Apple TV like

1623
01:44:12.760 --> 01:44:16.560
add on that that functioned as a
console. I didn't. Intendo moved slow,

1624
01:44:16.840 --> 01:44:19.520
but they have a lot of money
to burn, and it doesn't seem

1625
01:44:19.600 --> 01:44:23.920
like a lot is going anywhere.
So, I mean, Nintendo has been

1626
01:44:23.960 --> 01:44:27.800
in this situation before. You know, every four years you can find a

1627
01:44:27.800 --> 01:44:30.920
headline that says they're about to go
under, So, you know, I

1628
01:44:30.760 --> 01:44:33.760
it is worse than it's ever been. But I don't know if that necessarily

1629
01:44:33.840 --> 01:44:40.199
changes anything in my mind that they
wouldn't figure something out again in a year

1630
01:44:40.279 --> 01:44:43.720
or two. Have they ever talked
about, like what their strategy was with

1631
01:44:43.800 --> 01:44:45.319
the two little titles that they rolled
out at the end of the year,

1632
01:44:46.279 --> 01:44:50.079
the Neys remix thing, and the
Doctor Luigi game. Like those games just

1633
01:44:50.119 --> 01:44:53.760
came out out of nowhere, right
right? Or did you guys know about

1634
01:44:53.800 --> 01:44:56.920
them in advance? Oh? Yeah, they announced any S remix the day

1635
01:44:56.920 --> 01:45:00.560
that it came out. Yeah,
Like, is do you think that's what

1636
01:45:00.600 --> 01:45:02.560
they mean when they say they're going
to do smaller games for the other platforms,

1637
01:45:02.560 --> 01:45:06.000
Like it will be anys remix kind
of stuff, obviously tailored to work

1638
01:45:06.000 --> 01:45:10.960
with touch controls. But no,
I think it's more likely that you'd have

1639
01:45:11.039 --> 01:45:14.399
like a Nintendo Network app. And
like, let's say, you know,

1640
01:45:14.600 --> 01:45:16.479
they can't assume you're gonna turn your
EU or your three DS on every day,

1641
01:45:16.479 --> 01:45:19.439
but you're always gonna have your phone. So what if you know,

1642
01:45:19.479 --> 01:45:24.159
they sent a push notification that said, hey, you know, Doctor Luigi's

1643
01:45:24.199 --> 01:45:28.720
out today, would you like it
to start downloading on your device or your

1644
01:45:28.760 --> 01:45:30.760
phone? Like the rumor implied that
they would maybe make like kind of a

1645
01:45:30.800 --> 01:45:33.239
limited version of a game that was
saying going to be out on the three

1646
01:45:33.279 --> 01:45:36.239
DS, like they would make that
for iOS with like a subset of the

1647
01:45:36.239 --> 01:45:40.239
features, or almost like a demo
more or less. Yeah, okay,

1648
01:45:40.239 --> 01:45:45.199
like a demo slash kind of crippled
or handicapped version of the game that works

1649
01:45:45.239 --> 01:45:46.960
on the phone. Huh, and
then would theoretically would drive people to go

1650
01:45:47.039 --> 01:45:49.359
buy the three DS version. I
think I had in my mind was like

1651
01:45:49.399 --> 01:45:55.520
the fable uh pub games game.
Yeah, strategy they need to emulate.

1652
01:45:55.640 --> 01:45:58.560
Yeah, well, I mean that
wasn't a bad idea, it was just

1653
01:45:58.600 --> 01:46:01.159
a bad implementation. Yeah, that's
of sure. Like I like the idea

1654
01:46:01.199 --> 01:46:04.960
of taking taking parts of the game
that I can't like the stuff that works

1655
01:46:05.000 --> 01:46:11.039
in Assassin's Creed Black Flag where you
send your Kenway's fleet stuff. If that

1656
01:46:11.039 --> 01:46:15.079
should be just a standalone iOS app
that I can fire up and hooks into

1657
01:46:15.079 --> 01:46:17.560
my Assassin's Creed save game, that'd
be awesome. Hey Patrick, did you

1658
01:46:17.680 --> 01:46:25.359
see anything about the uh the Yamamushi
family and there's stock spying thing. Yeah,

1659
01:46:25.359 --> 01:46:29.680
I think Nintendo is doing like a
buyback thing. They they so wouldn't

1660
01:46:29.680 --> 01:46:32.359
surprised me if the Yamouchi family was
you would link to me to that.

1661
01:46:32.439 --> 01:46:35.279
It says that they're they're thinking the
Yamauchi family. Who I you know,

1662
01:46:35.479 --> 01:46:40.640
obviously it was a Hiroshi Yama his
first name. You know, he's essentially

1663
01:46:40.680 --> 01:46:44.319
responsible for a lot of Nintendo stuff
up until Awada took over, and even

1664
01:46:44.319 --> 01:46:46.720
then Awada was was still working with
Yamouchi. But yeah, I guess it

1665
01:46:46.720 --> 01:46:51.359
sounds like the Yamouchi family might might
sell their stock that they got when Heroshi

1666
01:46:51.439 --> 01:46:56.680
passed, but that that might just
be related to, uh, the larger

1667
01:46:56.720 --> 01:47:00.840
plan that Awada mentioned to I think
Reuters or the Wall Street Journal where he

1668
01:47:00.880 --> 01:47:04.039
said that they they're they're really interested
in doing a lot of acquisitions going forward.

1669
01:47:04.079 --> 01:47:09.680
So they intend to start spending the
money that they do have because otherwise

1670
01:47:09.680 --> 01:47:13.640
they've kind of operated like Apple,
where they they just hoard it for a

1671
01:47:13.720 --> 01:47:17.279
rainy day basically, and and and
now that rainy day is here, and

1672
01:47:17.399 --> 01:47:19.920
you know, I mean, Nintendo's
a big problem is that they as an

1673
01:47:19.960 --> 01:47:23.800
entertainment company, they don't have a
lot of bets placed in a lot of

1674
01:47:23.800 --> 01:47:28.760
spots, Like there was a the
academic in Bogos had a tweet about it

1675
01:47:28.800 --> 01:47:30.880
like last week that I thought pointed
out how you look at a company like

1676
01:47:30.920 --> 01:47:34.840
Disney and you just think of them
as Disney, but they're also ESPN,

1677
01:47:36.279 --> 01:47:43.079
you know, and all these other
all these other ventures they've they've they've but

1678
01:47:43.119 --> 01:47:45.760
you don't think of them. You
think of those all those independent entities,

1679
01:47:45.800 --> 01:47:49.600
but they're all Disney and Nintendo is
just Nintendo. So Nintendo live and dies

1680
01:47:49.680 --> 01:47:55.279
by one good idea and then if
that good idea doesn't turn out, then

1681
01:47:55.359 --> 01:47:58.319
they have to wait for the next
good idea. And so I think maybe

1682
01:47:58.720 --> 01:48:02.079
part of what Nintendo's play might be
is have more risks out there, so

1683
01:48:02.199 --> 01:48:05.279
if one doesn't work, then maybe
they can push on the other. And

1684
01:48:05.319 --> 01:48:09.159
I think that's where that health initiative
comes from, is that they look at

1685
01:48:09.920 --> 01:48:12.800
what we Fit did, which was
they found a way to make fitness fun

1686
01:48:12.920 --> 01:48:16.079
for a lot of people that maybe
don't uh normally engage in that sort of

1687
01:48:16.079 --> 01:48:20.960
stuff. And if that was separate
from their hardware devices and was a significant

1688
01:48:21.560 --> 01:48:25.119
way to make money, I think
what was it Konami for a long time

1689
01:48:25.159 --> 01:48:30.359
and maybe even still makes more money
from pachinko machines than video games and health

1690
01:48:30.359 --> 01:48:34.079
clubs. Yeah, yep, yep, And so you have a lot of

1691
01:48:34.119 --> 01:48:36.800
companies that differentiate in that way.
Nintendo doesn't do any of that, so

1692
01:48:36.800 --> 01:48:40.680
you know, they don't need to
get into a lot of weird stuff,

1693
01:48:40.680 --> 01:48:45.119
but they obviously need like alternate revenue
sources to for for moments like this,

1694
01:48:45.560 --> 01:48:49.079
let's move on. You got that
here, Grand Theft Auto made some some

1695
01:48:49.159 --> 01:48:54.800
money. Yeah, ships thirty two
point five million copies, that's a lot

1696
01:48:54.840 --> 01:48:58.319
of that's a lot of copies.
What was it? Also was the Mao

1697
01:48:58.479 --> 01:49:01.279
Kart for I think, wow,
forty I want to see Mario Karts seven

1698
01:49:01.359 --> 01:49:05.359
ships something like forty million or something
really stupid like that. When you talk

1699
01:49:05.399 --> 01:49:10.720
about like a successful franchise or game, they talk in the numbers of like

1700
01:49:10.880 --> 01:49:14.680
four to five million, right,
like shipp they're sold. Like that's like

1701
01:49:14.039 --> 01:49:17.199
something like this is really successful,
Like we did four to five millions to

1702
01:49:17.319 --> 01:49:21.399
thirty two million. Well at the
end of this console generation too, and

1703
01:49:21.399 --> 01:49:24.840
that's I mean, there's no way
to tell if that's sell through, but

1704
01:49:24.960 --> 01:49:29.840
like that's whatever. That's enough.
They're not shipping thirty two million to just

1705
01:49:29.840 --> 01:49:34.359
get put on store show. I
haven't seen stacks grandst a five. Ye,

1706
01:49:35.039 --> 01:49:40.039
that's crazy dollars. That's crazy.
That's what you're that's where you're estimating.

1707
01:49:40.399 --> 01:49:46.039
No, they multiplies by sixty fifty, by sixty six close to point

1708
01:49:46.079 --> 01:49:49.239
eight. That's a lot of money. That's a lot of money. That's

1709
01:49:49.239 --> 01:49:51.840
a lot of cocaine. You know, that's that's a lot of that got

1710
01:49:51.840 --> 01:49:55.800
to that's a goots you. It's
a good telling. Yeah, you can

1711
01:49:55.840 --> 01:49:59.920
start a small country. The iPhone
calculator did it in in scientific notation.

1712
01:50:00.279 --> 01:50:01.960
Yeah, what's the exponential two point
one times? Eat of the ninth,

1713
01:50:02.279 --> 01:50:04.760
Eat till the Ninth, Eat to
the Night. You know who does Eat

1714
01:50:04.800 --> 01:50:09.199
to the ninth numbers? Rock Star? Rock Star. Wait, if you

1715
01:50:09.199 --> 01:50:11.119
turn it sideways, it just gives
you a bunch of zeros, then it

1716
01:50:11.199 --> 01:50:14.800
just says boob. Yeah, uh
it's a B with a billion. So

1717
01:50:14.880 --> 01:50:17.560
this was there was this rock Star
putting this number out. Yeah, there

1718
01:50:17.640 --> 01:50:21.119
was a take to financial call.
I think good for the year today.

1719
01:50:21.560 --> 01:50:26.000
Yeah, see Mary, Yeah,
Mario Kart we thirty five point two six.

1720
01:50:26.279 --> 01:50:28.479
Man, there's a lot of copies
of amount. I think I saw.

1721
01:50:28.560 --> 01:50:30.960
I wish I had a source for
this. I think I saw something

1722
01:50:30.000 --> 01:50:34.520
about a leak that implied like a
next gen console Slash PC release this year

1723
01:50:34.600 --> 01:50:38.960
for GA five. Yeah, that's
been that's been pretty rumored for a while.

1724
01:50:38.960 --> 01:50:41.239
I wo it would be shocked me
if they didn't do at least a

1725
01:50:41.279 --> 01:50:44.560
PC version. What are what are
their DLC planes? Have they announced that?

1726
01:50:44.720 --> 01:50:46.479
I think they put some stuff out
for GTA Online. I would be

1727
01:50:46.520 --> 01:50:49.760
shocked if they didn't do like another
one or two campaigns. Maybe, I

1728
01:50:50.000 --> 01:50:54.439
don't think the I don't think the
episodes for four performed all that well.

1729
01:50:55.319 --> 01:50:57.960
No, they did really poorly because
it took like a year and a half

1730
01:50:58.000 --> 01:51:00.079
for them to come out and by
and no one really I mean, I

1731
01:51:00.119 --> 01:51:04.319
love that stuff, but you know, it didn't do very well financially.

1732
01:51:04.560 --> 01:51:08.439
So I guess I guess on the
Take to Call, all the all the

1733
01:51:08.439 --> 01:51:11.880
analysts were talking about was asking about
GTA online, like that's where all the

1734
01:51:11.960 --> 01:51:15.319
interest is financially really, like,
like, how do we still make money

1735
01:51:15.319 --> 01:51:17.319
from on the part of the investors
or the audience? I guess, you

1736
01:51:17.359 --> 01:51:20.479
know, making money off the audience
for the investors. Yeah, but what

1737
01:51:20.520 --> 01:51:24.720
I mean is that purely speculative interest
or are their actual numbers like are still

1738
01:51:24.880 --> 01:51:28.239
are there's still enough people playing that
that No, it's it's speculative interests.

1739
01:51:28.279 --> 01:51:30.399
I mean, if you listen to
any take to Call, every investor on

1740
01:51:30.439 --> 01:51:33.560
a year that there is no GTA
game, is the first question is always

1741
01:51:33.840 --> 01:51:36.840
when is the next GTA game?
So you know, I think from Take

1742
01:51:36.880 --> 01:51:42.000
two's perspective, they would want to
push GTA a lot. GTA online pretty

1743
01:51:42.000 --> 01:51:45.079
hard sort of, I guess,
regardless of how it's doing, because that's

1744
01:51:45.119 --> 01:51:48.880
a way for them to sort of
shut those people up if they can make

1745
01:51:48.920 --> 01:51:51.920
money on that in you know,
GTA off years, which you know is

1746
01:51:51.960 --> 01:51:56.039
probably every you know, at least
every four to five. So so they're

1747
01:51:56.079 --> 01:51:59.720
thinking that there's like call of duty
kind of legs on GTA online is what

1748
01:51:59.720 --> 01:52:03.159
the usters want. Yeah, okay, where's where's Red Dead? Man?

1749
01:52:03.239 --> 01:52:05.640
I don't know, man, I
don't know. It's got to be somewhere

1750
01:52:05.640 --> 01:52:10.920
in that one point eighty seven trillion
dollars, right, Just buy a team

1751
01:52:11.039 --> 01:52:14.479
bully to Bully Too. Yeah,
that's that's the way when I want.

1752
01:52:14.720 --> 01:52:16.640
But I don't know. There's been
I mean, like there's been Bully Too

1753
01:52:16.840 --> 01:52:20.600
and Red Dead rumors for a while, like stuff showing up on LinkedIn a

1754
01:52:20.680 --> 01:52:25.119
number of times. So you know, I suspect both of those exist in

1755
01:52:25.159 --> 01:52:28.960
some form. It's just a John
Marston has updated his profile. Check it

1756
01:52:29.000 --> 01:52:31.199
out, Sheriff. After you said
buying a team, I now have like

1757
01:52:31.239 --> 01:52:36.760
a sci fi novel in my head
where corporations just grabbed those corporate buses they

1758
01:52:36.920 --> 01:52:42.720
hijacked the corporate buses and for the
employee so that they can put them to

1759
01:52:42.760 --> 01:52:46.399
work at their company to build France
piers. Yeah, lott another bus today.

1760
01:52:46.479 --> 01:52:50.079
Guys, Hey, Sergey, where
you got any any leads? No?

1761
01:52:50.359 --> 01:52:55.680
Nothing. I don't know the bus
goal. I think Surgey is American,

1762
01:52:55.760 --> 01:52:59.720
dude, I don't know where the
bus went. That's better. Patrick

1763
01:53:00.159 --> 01:53:03.239
won't tell me about pimball arcade.
I don't know. I put this one

1764
01:53:03.279 --> 01:53:06.159
in here for you, okay,
because I've heard you say this before,

1765
01:53:06.199 --> 01:53:11.760
but it says the pinball Arcade extends
the dummss license to get Black Night two

1766
01:53:11.760 --> 01:53:15.119
thousand, among other tables. Black
He two thousand is the best pinball music,

1767
01:53:15.760 --> 01:53:19.439
the Black Night. That is not
just me. That is a scientific

1768
01:53:19.680 --> 01:53:55.840
very pimball music. Pimball music.
Okay, that is good. He is.

1769
01:53:58.279 --> 01:54:12.399
Do you have no way? Where
where do you go? Pin pinball

1770
01:54:12.439 --> 01:54:15.600
OSTs? Where do you go together? You go to California Extreme Cats?

1771
01:54:15.800 --> 01:54:20.199
Yeah, bring her bring your digital
recorded to cats. Okay, just set

1772
01:54:20.239 --> 01:54:25.960
it on the table and play.
Okay, yes, and we'll swap tapes

1773
01:54:26.000 --> 01:54:28.239
after. Do you have one of
those hats with the two microphones on the

1774
01:54:28.279 --> 01:54:30.760
side. I do not. That's
amazing. I do not mine has beers

1775
01:54:30.760 --> 01:54:34.760
in it. Okay, uh,
that's great, that's fun. Jeff will

1776
01:54:34.760 --> 01:54:40.039
be sacked about that. H The
Wolf among Us episode two, Well,

1777
01:54:40.039 --> 01:54:43.079
when this comes out, I guess
February fourth, did you write this headline

1778
01:54:43.079 --> 01:54:45.800
that's in here, The Wolf among
Us episode two to be among Us February

1779
01:54:45.920 --> 01:54:47.359
fourth. No, No, you
can blame, you can blame, you

1780
01:54:47.399 --> 01:54:50.880
can blame. Joystick was gon.
That's great. You'll never be able to

1781
01:54:50.920 --> 01:54:54.960
deliver, be able to top that
that morning show headline you had the one

1782
01:54:55.000 --> 01:54:58.279
time. What wasn't something like the
Wolf among Us has played the Wolf among

1783
01:54:58.359 --> 01:55:01.640
Us? Oh? Yeah, that
was pretty good. That was yeah,

1784
01:55:01.680 --> 01:55:06.199
that was I should I should have
just I just should just quit. Gone.

1785
01:55:06.399 --> 01:55:10.159
All right, let's let's move on
Patrick. What you got up next?

1786
01:55:10.640 --> 01:55:13.279
So we were talking about Dark Souls. We did that big that big

1787
01:55:13.359 --> 01:55:15.880
video, so I've been paying attention
a little bit of that stuff, and

1788
01:55:15.479 --> 01:55:19.640
I guess the team it originally said
outright that they weren't going to do DLC,

1789
01:55:20.000 --> 01:55:25.279
especially for how poorly implemented it was
in Dark Souls. You're talking about

1790
01:55:25.359 --> 01:55:28.560
Dark Souls to DLC. Yeah,
yeah, they said they weren't going to

1791
01:55:28.640 --> 01:55:31.920
do Dark Souls to DLC because you
know, it unbalanced Dark Souls in a

1792
01:55:31.920 --> 01:55:35.159
really profound way. It's it's it's
kind of hard to get to when you

1793
01:55:35.159 --> 01:55:40.039
have to do it mid game.
It's it's really where it's terrific. I

1794
01:55:40.119 --> 01:55:42.800
highly recommend people check it out.
What do you mean you have to like,

1795
01:55:42.880 --> 01:55:44.880
is there a point where you can
no longer go back and get to

1796
01:55:44.880 --> 01:55:46.079
it? Yes? Yeah, really
there's a point of no return. Yeah.

1797
01:55:46.119 --> 01:55:48.199
Well does that go for the entire
game or just the DLC. What

1798
01:55:48.239 --> 01:55:50.920
do you mean, is there is
there a point where you just just can't

1799
01:55:50.960 --> 01:55:56.199
get to any of the previous part
of the game. Well, there's definitely

1800
01:55:56.239 --> 01:55:59.000
an end point in the game,
But I don't think you're locked out like

1801
01:55:59.039 --> 01:56:01.039
you are out of the deals because
to the process you told me about for

1802
01:56:01.039 --> 01:56:05.079
getting into the DLC sounds incomprehensible.
It's more than just curling up like an

1803
01:56:05.159 --> 01:56:09.880
egg. Yeah. I didn't even
know there was DLC for Dark Souls,

1804
01:56:09.840 --> 01:56:12.760
So it's really good. It's one
of my favorite boss battles. It's included

1805
01:56:12.800 --> 01:56:15.399
in the PC version. Okay,
but so, what was the story with

1806
01:56:15.479 --> 01:56:18.680
Dark Souls to a DLC. So, in an interview with o exam I'm

1807
01:56:18.720 --> 01:56:21.239
not having a chime pronounced. The
producer's name says, right now, we

1808
01:56:21.319 --> 01:56:24.560
are concentrating completely we've got but I
think there are next steps, and I

1809
01:56:24.640 --> 01:56:28.119
we can expand Dark Souls too,
And they said kind of after that that

1810
01:56:28.199 --> 01:56:31.439
it sort of depended on on fan
feedback, and I just I'm curious.

1811
01:56:31.479 --> 01:56:34.880
You know, Vinny, you've played
Dark Souls and you've done the DLC,

1812
01:56:35.000 --> 01:56:38.199
and I did that too, and
I really enjoyed it. But you know,

1813
01:56:38.239 --> 01:56:41.159
obviously, I think we can both
agree that the way it was implemented

1814
01:56:41.279 --> 01:56:45.520
was pretty terrible. I just don't
even know how they go about doing that

1815
01:56:45.600 --> 01:56:48.760
unless they do it in a I
don't know, separate story sort of style,

1816
01:56:48.840 --> 01:56:53.680
but that seems to go against sort
of the Dark Souls ethos of you

1817
01:56:53.720 --> 01:56:57.279
know, sort of building out your
character. I don't even know how they

1818
01:56:57.319 --> 01:57:00.680
would handle I mean, I can
think of like a couple of I can

1819
01:57:00.760 --> 01:57:03.840
think of one easy way to avoid
what they did the last time is don't

1820
01:57:03.920 --> 01:57:10.039
require you to like reset the game
to access the content. But yeah,

1821
01:57:10.039 --> 01:57:12.399
they're like a stand and he might
not have to reset it, like you

1822
01:57:12.479 --> 01:57:15.199
might be able to die, come
out, log back in. But like

1823
01:57:15.239 --> 01:57:18.079
the way I think a lot of
people access it is like standing the spot.

1824
01:57:18.199 --> 01:57:20.880
Now turn the game off, Now
turn the game back on. Now

1825
01:57:20.960 --> 01:57:24.680
walk over here. Now turn the
game off. Now turn the game back

1826
01:57:24.720 --> 01:57:27.880
on. Now walk back to where
you saw nothing before. Now there'll be

1827
01:57:27.960 --> 01:57:31.119
something there. Really, Yeah,
that is fucking crazy. You can't do

1828
01:57:31.199 --> 01:57:34.279
without a fact like it's it's it's
ridiculous, like it's it was the one

1829
01:57:34.359 --> 01:57:38.399
thing that when I was playing at
people were like, don't feel bad,

1830
01:57:38.800 --> 01:57:41.960
don't even bother trying to figure it
out. You paid for this DLC or

1831
01:57:42.000 --> 01:57:44.279
you know, you got in the
PC edition I bought on MPs three,

1832
01:57:44.319 --> 01:57:46.119
and I was like, if I
had bought this and not look this up,

1833
01:57:46.159 --> 01:57:50.640
I would have never ever found this. That explains though that game partially

1834
01:57:51.399 --> 01:57:54.600
but kind of. But you aren't. You can pay for the game,

1835
01:57:54.640 --> 01:57:56.760
but then you're like, I'm gonna
buy this DLC because I really love the

1836
01:57:56.800 --> 01:57:58.840
game, and then never see it. I get what you're saying, though,

1837
01:57:58.880 --> 01:58:01.560
there's a weird meta game. Yeah
that is that is that game's mo

1838
01:58:01.640 --> 01:58:05.119
is hiding things. That game should
totally be all it's DLC should just be

1839
01:58:05.199 --> 01:58:09.920
new game plus shit that happens,
Like you gotta get to you want to

1840
01:58:09.960 --> 01:58:14.159
get to the DLC, you're gonna
beat the game seven times. That's what

1841
01:58:14.319 --> 01:58:16.640
I think would like cater to that. How much do you hate yourself?

1842
01:58:17.039 --> 01:58:20.800
You go beyond DLC. Well,
so they don't leave in the door open

1843
01:58:21.000 --> 01:58:25.960
basically, yeah, yeah, they
just it sounds like they haven't really thought

1844
01:58:25.960 --> 01:58:29.159
about it, which at least gives
me. Well, it worries me because

1845
01:58:29.239 --> 01:58:30.479
if they just do it later,
then maybe they just tack it on.

1846
01:58:30.600 --> 01:58:33.560
But I guess you could do it
in sort of like a Fallout three sort

1847
01:58:33.600 --> 01:58:36.640
of way, like where they just
sort of tacked on the DLC and modified

1848
01:58:36.680 --> 01:58:42.279
the ending to let you just kind
of go back and and access it that

1849
01:58:42.319 --> 01:58:45.159
way, because the idea of like
starting the game over again to access that,

1850
01:58:45.199 --> 01:58:47.319
I mean no this, you know, I'm speaking as someone that will

1851
01:58:47.359 --> 01:58:51.000
play that game once. Uh.
You know, obviously a lot of dar

1852
01:58:51.039 --> 01:58:55.119
Souls fans like to play that game, you know, a number of times

1853
01:58:55.159 --> 01:58:57.560
to get all they get out of
it. But you know, if they

1854
01:58:57.600 --> 01:59:01.520
do that again with two, then
I just can't see myself ever even experiencing

1855
01:59:01.520 --> 01:59:06.800
it. Uh's what's uh, what's
up with the spinal He's in killer instinct?

1856
01:59:06.840 --> 01:59:13.560
If any man he's a skeletons.
Tell me about spineal Patrick, I

1857
01:59:13.560 --> 01:59:16.880
don't know. You tell me backstory's
skeletons, a skeleton with the sword,

1858
01:59:17.439 --> 01:59:20.239
and she probably had he probably had
a pretty good song on the Killer Cut

1859
01:59:20.279 --> 01:59:24.359
soundtrack. Probably. I think the
shield has a skull on it. Probably

1860
01:59:24.399 --> 01:59:26.439
not as good as it does it. I'm pretty sure it's a little that's

1861
01:59:26.439 --> 01:59:29.399
a little morbid, I think so, while he is a skeleton, so

1862
01:59:29.479 --> 01:59:32.640
it's morbid already. So is he
the now default character instead of Jaco?

1863
01:59:32.760 --> 01:59:34.840
No, no, no, that
happened a little while back, though saber

1864
01:59:34.880 --> 01:59:39.079
Wolf has been the free character for
a few weeks. Now, Jaco is

1865
01:59:39.119 --> 01:59:42.159
not Spinal. Just are they going
to cycle through that? Is that the

1866
01:59:42.159 --> 01:59:44.359
plan? Yeah, that was always
the plan for Okay, it was to

1867
01:59:44.720 --> 01:59:45.840
trade him out once in a while. But yeah, Spinal is in the

1868
01:59:45.840 --> 01:59:48.720
game now as a last Friday.
Great, he's been patched in. And

1869
01:59:48.760 --> 01:59:53.000
I guess there was a trailer that
came out that implied that full Gore is

1870
01:59:53.000 --> 01:59:56.600
probably gonna be the last character.
He's not in yet. No, I

1871
01:59:56.600 --> 02:00:00.640
think they said by March the well, whoever the last the eighth character,

1872
02:00:00.720 --> 02:00:01.760
this will be in my March.
I wouldn't have that community is doing.

1873
02:00:01.800 --> 02:00:04.760
I haven't haven't been. I don't
know. I've been meaning to download spinal

1874
02:00:04.800 --> 02:00:08.800
and get in there and check it
out. And lastly, Patrick, for

1875
02:00:08.800 --> 02:00:11.760
some reason, they made new for
some reason, why is the memory for

1876
02:00:11.800 --> 02:00:15.600
all those games you could put on
it memory or storage storage? You know,

1877
02:00:15.600 --> 02:00:19.000
they didn't modify any of the actual
internals of how the heart it's still

1878
02:00:19.039 --> 02:00:26.239
like a was it Tegra three?
Yeah? Is the processor the graphics ship?

1879
02:00:27.039 --> 02:00:29.439
Yeah, well the surface one.
That's the whole thing, right,

1880
02:00:29.479 --> 02:00:31.880
It's like Android based. What's the
work? They showing a new Tigra at

1881
02:00:31.920 --> 02:00:36.239
CS Tigra four. It's better than
Tigra three. Oh wow, man,

1882
02:00:36.520 --> 02:00:42.039
amazing. I know you can make
your your Android phone can get even bigger,

1883
02:00:42.640 --> 02:00:46.840
hotter. They're also like redesigning or
looking at revisiting or doing again.

1884
02:00:47.000 --> 02:00:50.119
The controller. Yeah, no,
they did. There's an improved controller in

1885
02:00:50.159 --> 02:00:54.279
there. But you know that's like, you know, the bar is pretty

1886
02:00:54.279 --> 02:01:00.399
low on that, Like that controller
was complete dogshit and so you know,

1887
02:01:00.560 --> 02:01:02.079
I guess an improvement, but then
you're also paying more money. It's under

1888
02:01:02.119 --> 02:01:05.960
in thirty bucks, whereas the I
think the original bundle is is ninety nine

1889
02:01:06.000 --> 02:01:11.279
dollars. I assume you can just
buy the controller and and p Yeah,

1890
02:01:11.479 --> 02:01:13.720
you can buy. You can buy
the old U if you want. You

1891
02:01:13.720 --> 02:01:15.800
know, it's got less storage,
but you can just look at USB or

1892
02:01:15.800 --> 02:01:18.880
an external hard drive up to it. Are there a lot of games now

1893
02:01:18.880 --> 02:01:21.359
with power fall leaving? You know, power falls out in a couple of

1894
02:01:21.399 --> 02:01:26.199
weeks. I think so, yeah, and then the PS four and Vita

1895
02:01:26.199 --> 02:01:30.720
stuff will be later. People people
talking like Chess two is not bad chess,

1896
02:01:30.760 --> 02:01:32.800
I can't believe. I just earnestly
used the phrase chess too without any

1897
02:01:32.840 --> 02:01:36.159
hint of it's like three D chess. Uh No, it's just chess with

1898
02:01:36.199 --> 02:01:39.239
a bunch of we've been working for
that for a couple of thousand years.

1899
02:01:39.279 --> 02:01:41.720
I think, yeah, finally,
Yeah, it'll be done when it's done.

1900
02:01:41.760 --> 02:01:44.640
Okay, do you know if you
put worst The first time I saw

1901
02:01:44.720 --> 02:01:49.199
the words Chess two on on a
screen, I died laughing. The Millennium

1902
02:01:49.239 --> 02:01:54.800
Falcon and like that's chess too,
that it goes right from chess to that.

1903
02:01:55.960 --> 02:01:58.159
I don't know much about it.
We actually have a review build.

1904
02:01:58.159 --> 02:02:00.880
If you never get Cheff to bring
get and then I guess we could slap

1905
02:02:00.920 --> 02:02:02.800
it on there. I think it's
I think it's just chess with weird extra

1906
02:02:02.880 --> 02:02:08.800
rule sets and stuff like on Poissana. Sure what, I don't know?

1907
02:02:08.880 --> 02:02:14.840
Castling Castling, Patrick, Castling,
Patrick Ing talk tell me, oh man,

1908
02:02:14.960 --> 02:02:16.560
yeah, I just finished. I
finished writing that story. I think

1909
02:02:16.560 --> 02:02:19.560
it. We'll go up tomorrow.
I've been spending the last all most of

1910
02:02:19.680 --> 02:02:28.760
last week researching. I'm sure some
of you guys saw the headlines like shiver

1911
02:02:28.920 --> 02:02:30.800
or quake or something, but like
I wasn't quite sure what it was because

1912
02:02:30.960 --> 02:02:35.279
I'm not like a tuned Wait,
something like three hundred thousand dollars of actual

1913
02:02:35.359 --> 02:02:39.079
currency were destroyed. I watched a
stream for like four hours, and I

1914
02:02:39.119 --> 02:02:41.239
had no idea what was going on. But there were a lot of numbers.

1915
02:02:41.520 --> 02:02:45.039
Max just like turned and looked at
me. It felt like a disturbance

1916
02:02:45.119 --> 02:02:48.920
or something like only something babies and
dogs could sense was happening. Scandinavia sank

1917
02:02:49.039 --> 02:02:54.760
three inches? What happened? The
story starts basically with an unpaid bill.

1918
02:03:01.159 --> 02:03:04.720
So one of the big things that
happens in Eve online is it's called sov

1919
02:03:04.800 --> 02:03:10.920
War. So it's it's basically,
you know, different coalitions uh fighting over

1920
02:03:11.319 --> 02:03:14.800
territories and when you have territories,
you can you know, use that to

1921
02:03:14.840 --> 02:03:17.720
build war assets and things like that. Now, Uh, in the future

1922
02:03:18.199 --> 02:03:23.199
Eve Online for whatever reason, they
don't have auto build paid. It's something

1923
02:03:23.239 --> 02:03:26.840
that they you manually have to do. You can set up certain systems so

1924
02:03:26.960 --> 02:03:30.720
that they do get automatically paid,
but you have to manually go and like

1925
02:03:30.439 --> 02:03:35.560
set that stuff up every month.
And anyway, basically a bill didn't get

1926
02:03:35.600 --> 02:03:41.439
paid and then this save this one
section of space became open. Now,

1927
02:03:41.439 --> 02:03:51.119
normally that wouldn't be a big deal, except that if we were to think

1928
02:03:51.119 --> 02:03:55.800
about this in real life terms,
it's essentially like if the US suddenly like

1929
02:03:55.880 --> 02:04:09.199
stopped at defending Washington, DC.
Like it's like when Microsoft didn't tay Hotmail's

1930
02:04:09.239 --> 02:04:14.680
domain registrations. Yes, yes,
yes, it's it's yeah yeah. And

1931
02:04:15.039 --> 02:04:18.960
uh, this was in the middle
of a like this big stalemate between uh,

1932
02:04:19.079 --> 02:04:24.680
this one group called the CFC,
which is largely the Goonswarm Alliance,

1933
02:04:24.720 --> 02:04:30.640
which they come out of something awful, and that has this guy named Matani

1934
02:04:30.680 --> 02:04:33.960
who is sort of this infamous guy. If you remember a couple of years

1935
02:04:34.000 --> 02:04:36.640
ago, there was a guy that
got really drunk, said some stupid things,

1936
02:04:38.039 --> 02:04:41.199
uh, and got banned out of
the game. That's that guy,

1937
02:04:41.239 --> 02:04:53.840
and he heads up uh CFC slash
the Goonswarm and this other group that they

1938
02:04:53.840 --> 02:04:57.439
had been fighting against UH called N
three. It's like part of like three

1939
02:04:57.640 --> 02:05:01.000
ends they had been they had been
fight. But basically an evonline, when

1940
02:05:01.039 --> 02:05:05.439
you do softwar UH, if you're
if you have enough ships, you can

1941
02:05:05.520 --> 02:05:12.600
basically have your healers repair the tanks
uh in you to use RPG terms,

1942
02:05:12.640 --> 02:05:15.439
and it's just a stalemate and then
you're just waiting for someone to screw up.

1943
02:05:15.760 --> 02:05:19.319
And the screw up was this base, which essentially was the capital of

1944
02:05:19.399 --> 02:05:24.800
one of these sides, becoming exposed, and so that side then had to

1945
02:05:24.840 --> 02:05:29.159
send in significant war assets in order
to protect it. Now, the reason

1946
02:05:29.520 --> 02:05:32.640
they had to do that was because
the moment it becomes available because they didn't

1947
02:05:32.640 --> 02:05:36.279
pay their bill, you have to
set up an item that gains you access

1948
02:05:36.319 --> 02:05:44.479
to that that area and protect it
for eight hours. Now, related to

1949
02:05:44.520 --> 02:05:50.359
all this is that the Russians,
who are just called the Russians and there

1950
02:05:50.439 --> 02:05:55.119
and they're they're sort of like this
weird rogue element because evonline has this much

1951
02:05:55.159 --> 02:06:00.520
larger meta game of time zoning,
where you actually want to bring in different

1952
02:06:00.520 --> 02:06:04.239
players who are in different time zones
so that when you go to sleep and

1953
02:06:04.399 --> 02:06:08.640
in order to build certain big capital
ships, you have to do that out

1954
02:06:08.640 --> 02:06:11.680
in the opening exposed, So you
need people in different time zones to protect

1955
02:06:11.720 --> 02:06:14.920
that stuff, and so you'll employ, you know, people like the Russians.

1956
02:06:14.920 --> 02:06:17.159
So they put in order to do
that, they build coalitions to defend

1957
02:06:17.279 --> 02:06:30.199
this wow. So they end up
being sort of this this weird rogue element,

1958
02:06:30.239 --> 02:06:34.039
and they're important for this story because
the Russians were the only ones awake

1959
02:06:34.239 --> 02:06:40.039
when this bill was unpaid, and
so they're the first ones to realize that

1960
02:06:40.119 --> 02:06:42.680
it happened. Now, now,
what most people do is they just go

1961
02:06:42.680 --> 02:06:45.159
and they would blow it up and
they would take over that spot. But

1962
02:06:45.199 --> 02:06:48.640
they don't do that, and instead
they patiently wait while the team that didn't

1963
02:06:48.640 --> 02:06:54.760
pay the bill try to set up
their little node that has to go online

1964
02:06:54.760 --> 02:07:05.159
in eight hours. They wait almost
the full eight hours, and then they

1965
02:07:05.199 --> 02:07:09.920
send in a fleet, destroy it, set up their own thing, and

1966
02:07:09.920 --> 02:07:14.439
then that's when the Goonswarm Alliance,
who is part of North America. They're

1967
02:07:14.479 --> 02:07:16.840
awake, they bring all their guys
in and then they just start squatting on

1968
02:07:16.880 --> 02:07:20.920
the space and at that point the
other alliance that had not paid their bill

1969
02:07:21.159 --> 02:07:25.159
then has to just bring people in
to try and grab it back and protect

1970
02:07:25.159 --> 02:07:38.560
it for eight hours. Now it
gets crazier in that when there's a couple

1971
02:07:38.560 --> 02:07:42.319
of ways that EV Online tries to
compensate for these large scale battles, and

1972
02:07:42.560 --> 02:07:45.039
the primary thing they do is to
try and you know, they beef up

1973
02:07:45.119 --> 02:07:51.079
servers. There's also a form you
can fill out that CCP really highly recommends

1974
02:07:51.079 --> 02:07:56.159
players do so that they can stabilize
the servers. Is basically you let them

1975
02:07:56.159 --> 02:08:00.159
know when you're going to attack someone
dialect too. But then yeah, as

1976
02:08:00.159 --> 02:08:03.760
will allude to, there's time dilation
and in this battle, which I think

1977
02:08:03.800 --> 02:08:09.760
would have gone on for about nine
hours in real time, was slowed down

1978
02:08:09.840 --> 02:08:13.720
to like ten percent and thus became
like a twenty one hour battle as a

1979
02:08:13.760 --> 02:08:18.039
result, And because of the time
dilation, you're running at one tenth to

1980
02:08:18.079 --> 02:08:20.680
game speed, which means you have
to plan out all your moves far in

1981
02:08:20.760 --> 02:08:26.640
advance, and it essentially then becomes
like this pseudo RTS. And what makes

1982
02:08:26.680 --> 02:08:31.079
even crazier as this goes on and
stretches into like it's eighteenth and nineteenth hour,

1983
02:08:31.560 --> 02:08:33.960
is that the other side realizes,
Hey, we need to get out,

1984
02:08:33.199 --> 02:08:37.680
like this is unwinnable. The math
is against us. And the whole

1985
02:08:37.720 --> 02:08:43.039
reason that the goon Swarm that something
awful guys decided to pull the trigger was

1986
02:08:43.079 --> 02:08:46.640
because they had spies on the other
side that let them know the math worked

1987
02:08:46.640 --> 02:08:48.800
out for them. So they just
brought in everyone and knew that through war

1988
02:08:48.840 --> 02:08:54.479
of attrition they could just wait them
out, and when when the other side

1989
02:08:56.680 --> 02:09:01.279
tried to leave, essentially they they
I forget the actual term is, but

1990
02:09:01.319 --> 02:09:05.399
it's basically like these warp bubbles that
sticky the ships into space and they can't

1991
02:09:05.439 --> 02:09:09.920
move, so they're all trying interdiction. Probably yeah, so they're so they're

1992
02:09:09.960 --> 02:09:13.600
all trying to warp out, but
they've all then launched these warp bubbles to

1993
02:09:13.760 --> 02:09:16.920
keep their ships in place. They
can't leave, and all they're doing is

1994
02:09:16.920 --> 02:09:22.159
getting pummeled. And at the end
of the this uh huge battle, U

1995
02:09:22.399 --> 02:09:26.000
seventy five Titan ships were destroyed,
which each take a month and a half

1996
02:09:26.039 --> 02:09:31.680
to build, cost the equivalent of
fifteen hundred US dollars if you were to

1997
02:09:31.720 --> 02:09:37.039
translate disc and the destruction of a
Titan is so monumental in the ev universe

1998
02:09:37.720 --> 02:09:43.760
that when one is destroyed, there
are headlines on Eve fan sites like to

1999
02:09:43.920 --> 02:09:46.279
say, like, oh my god, it Titan was destroyed and in this

2000
02:09:46.399 --> 02:09:50.319
battle, yes seventy five, Patrick, I have a very important question call

2001
02:09:50.399 --> 02:09:56.000
this. Where was kite cold and
all of this? Do we know where

2002
02:09:56.039 --> 02:09:58.600
they were? Do we know where
they were? I don't. I don't

2003
02:09:58.600 --> 02:10:01.680
think they were participating. It was. It was tough once it got started

2004
02:10:03.439 --> 02:10:07.079
to participate because it sort of caps
out in terms of who can get involved,

2005
02:10:07.159 --> 02:10:09.720
especially because of the time dilation.
Like if you're just not there,

2006
02:10:11.319 --> 02:10:13.960
it's gonna be it's gonna be tough
to to make any sort of impact.

2007
02:10:13.159 --> 02:10:18.239
But uh, yeah, Kaiko is
still it is still going there are they

2008
02:10:18.279 --> 02:10:20.159
are? They are still strong in
the lot of them are strong, but

2009
02:10:20.159 --> 02:10:24.239
they're still there. So what's the
upshot here? So that's that's one hundred

2010
02:10:24.239 --> 02:10:28.920
and twelve thousand dollars worth of Titans? Yeah, I read it was like

2011
02:10:28.920 --> 02:10:31.640
three hundred thousand total assets lost in
this thing though. Yeah, tons of

2012
02:10:31.640 --> 02:10:35.000
tons of stuff. Yeah, the
Titans are like those are these the equivalent

2013
02:10:35.000 --> 02:10:39.359
of nukes? So like the reason
that people spend so much time building those

2014
02:10:39.439 --> 02:10:43.439
up this because they are so powerful. They take so much time, and

2015
02:10:43.960 --> 02:10:48.000
a lot of wars get settled or
mitigated by just pure math. Like if

2016
02:10:48.319 --> 02:10:52.359
if you're the team that shows up
has thirty Titans and you don't have thirty

2017
02:10:52.359 --> 02:10:56.319
Titans, then you know there's not
a whole lot of point in the match

2018
02:10:56.359 --> 02:11:01.560
happening. So you know, for
for this goons Swarm Alliance, you take

2019
02:11:01.600 --> 02:11:03.880
out so many of these Titans.
I think they lost. The Goonswarm Alliance

2020
02:11:03.920 --> 02:11:07.319
lost fifteen, but the other side, you know, lost like fifty something.

2021
02:11:09.760 --> 02:11:13.000
Like when I when I talked to
the guy who didn't pay his bill,

2022
02:11:13.640 --> 02:11:16.640
uh, you know, he said
that essentially set back everything they've done

2023
02:11:16.720 --> 02:11:22.079
for the last six months, and
it's you know, it destroys their entire

2024
02:11:22.640 --> 02:11:26.560
campaign that were they were waging.
So did you see what CCP is gonna

2025
02:11:26.600 --> 02:11:28.840
do about. Yeah, they're putting
up They're putting up a memorial. There's

2026
02:11:28.880 --> 02:11:33.840
gonna be like they're gonna be like
a permanent space plaque installed that commemorates this

2027
02:11:33.880 --> 02:11:37.800
battle, like a monument I remember
in space. Yeah. Not not only

2028
02:11:37.800 --> 02:11:41.560
that, but they're apparently gonna go
and see the area with like salvageable debris

2029
02:11:41.640 --> 02:11:46.359
from all those titans, oh to
be like, but over time the ecouto

2030
02:11:46.520 --> 02:11:48.359
though, like yeah, like people
can go get it, but no,

2031
02:11:48.359 --> 02:11:50.119
they're not gonna dumb it all at
once, you know, I guess for

2032
02:11:50.199 --> 02:11:52.880
economic reasons, they're gonna kind of
dule it out over time. But Eve

2033
02:11:54.000 --> 02:11:56.479
is basically the metaverse from snow Crash, right, Like, that's that's where

2034
02:11:56.479 --> 02:12:01.399
we're at. I hope we're going
to go, but it is, you

2035
02:12:01.399 --> 02:12:05.239
know, there's no sword fighting,
I guess, but there pizza. I'm

2036
02:12:05.279 --> 02:12:09.239
sure there's pizza. Patrick. So
it's is this the you talked to the

2037
02:12:09.279 --> 02:12:11.920
guy who forgot what happened? How
do you forget to pay his bill?

2038
02:12:11.960 --> 02:12:16.800
He? Uh he he went and
thought he basically he calls the Evonline corporate

2039
02:12:16.840 --> 02:12:22.119
interface a sucking chest wound, which
is to say that he is pretty sure

2040
02:12:22.159 --> 02:12:26.399
it was a glitch and that they
have a process in place where two other

2041
02:12:26.760 --> 02:12:31.399
members of his corporation corporations are like
how players come together. Sounds like a

2042
02:12:31.520 --> 02:12:37.920
CEO passing the bag and then two
other people checked it and they they said

2043
02:12:37.960 --> 02:12:41.880
it looked fine, but obviously obviously
it wasn't. So I mean, it

2044
02:12:43.159 --> 02:12:46.079
was funny like that this Mattani character
who we heard all sorts of things about

2045
02:12:46.119 --> 02:12:50.359
when Drew and I were out there, uh last year. Uh, dude

2046
02:12:50.439 --> 02:12:54.840
is a notorious shit talker, and
you know some of the stuff he says

2047
02:12:54.880 --> 02:12:58.399
in my interview, I think,
what's the they put their dick. They

2048
02:12:58.399 --> 02:13:01.479
put their dick on the table and
we chopped off and like that's like that,

2049
02:13:01.479 --> 02:13:05.560
that's gross, just minor ways that
Why would you put on the table.

2050
02:13:05.880 --> 02:13:07.079
I don't know, dicks on the
table right now, there's that big

2051
02:13:07.079 --> 02:13:09.520
wall of monitors and I can't see. That's why you don't get a table

2052
02:13:09.560 --> 02:13:13.279
saw. That's not all. Oh, Patrick, thank you so much for

2053
02:13:13.279 --> 02:13:16.239
sharing. That was a fantastic I
can't wait to read that. Yeah,

2054
02:13:16.399 --> 02:13:20.119
when the story it should it should
be up by the time this this runs,

2055
02:13:20.159 --> 02:13:24.760
and I'm currently editing the I'm I'm
getting the interviews together to go up,

2056
02:13:24.760 --> 02:13:28.399
as as as dump trucks, And
then I sent off my rough draft

2057
02:13:28.479 --> 02:13:35.319
to actually some folks in Kaiko to
basically just double check my lingo and stuff

2058
02:13:35.359 --> 02:13:39.319
like that to make sure I've got
it all understandable, but that that should

2059
02:13:39.359 --> 02:13:43.119
be up sometime. As you listen
to this, I feel like a trapped

2060
02:13:43.439 --> 02:13:46.920
like diplomat in some other country with
kait Ko. Yeah, they've just they've

2061
02:13:48.000 --> 02:13:50.680
started going on their own. You've
never been there. I'm just there.

2062
02:13:50.199 --> 02:13:56.039
I'm their leader that lives in a
different country, exile, ye Patrick,

2063
02:13:56.079 --> 02:14:00.279
what else is going on up on
the site? The folks can go check

2064
02:14:00.319 --> 02:14:03.279
out. I don't know. I'm
gonna try and beat Yama. It's Bilunky.

2065
02:14:03.359 --> 02:14:05.119
We're on the We're on the road
to beating Yama. And then I

2066
02:14:05.159 --> 02:14:09.159
think, uh, I think that
will mark the end of not me playing

2067
02:14:09.159 --> 02:14:13.520
Spilunky, but at least me doing
it on the site. But I'm I'm

2068
02:14:13.520 --> 02:14:16.760
considering then spinning that until like a
uh, just sort of rolling the dice

2069
02:14:16.800 --> 02:14:20.159
on different roguelike games, uh,
and and trying to I've heard a lot

2070
02:14:20.159 --> 02:14:24.840
of good things about Binding of Isaac, but I never really spent any significant

2071
02:14:24.880 --> 02:14:28.600
time. One is pretty good too, Yeah, nucle Throne's really access so

2072
02:14:28.760 --> 02:14:33.760
you know, I that seems a
little bit less interesting, but because it

2073
02:14:33.159 --> 02:14:37.479
won't be static, but Binding of
Isaac, I know, like folks that

2074
02:14:37.560 --> 02:14:41.600
like Splunky have put like hundreds of
hours into that game, so you know,

2075
02:14:41.680 --> 02:14:43.600
I only played maybe fifteen minutes of
that for a quick look when it

2076
02:14:43.600 --> 02:14:46.720
came out, and it seemed okay, but I didn't get much out of

2077
02:14:46.760 --> 02:14:50.159
it, so I might check that
out. So we'll see as soon as

2078
02:14:50.159 --> 02:14:52.520
I can beat Yama, which I'm
close, but uh, you know that

2079
02:14:52.600 --> 02:14:56.159
might curse me to another month of
splunky, which there are worse things.

2080
02:14:56.640 --> 02:15:00.079
We can only hope. Thanks Patrick, always a pleasure of having your and

2081
02:15:00.840 --> 02:15:03.079
yeah, and we'll catch up with
you. See, I'm sure see it

2082
02:15:03.079 --> 02:15:05.119
all right, Take care guys,
Patrick, Sorry about shit talking to you

2083
02:15:05.239 --> 02:15:07.680
earlier. Don't worry, you'll still
lose. I know, all right,

2084
02:15:07.680 --> 02:15:11.760
Brad. You know what time it
is, Emails. It's time to get

2085
02:15:11.920 --> 02:15:15.880
up. It's time to get up. So much to do? Ay,

2086
02:15:16.119 --> 02:15:20.399
ready to play? It's time to
get up. The time to get up.

2087
02:15:20.079 --> 02:15:26.800
We'll have fun today. If it's
Sunday, we go outside, go

2088
02:15:28.039 --> 02:15:33.079
to the phone for everybodysy, go
ride, meet some friends out the streams

2089
02:15:33.119 --> 02:15:39.680
and slides and have a go with
something we've never tried. Emails. Time

2090
02:15:39.760 --> 02:15:43.319
to wake up, the time to
wake up, open your rise. It's

2091
02:15:43.359 --> 02:15:48.439
a brand new day. It's time
to get up. The time to get

2092
02:15:48.600 --> 02:15:54.279
up. We'll have fun today.
It's been training. We'll stick in,

2093
02:15:56.079 --> 02:16:00.399
throw up your big chuns and color. Then in emails, bake it game,

2094
02:16:00.680 --> 02:16:03.399
make yell, I sing, you
get to take your thing guns and

2095
02:16:03.479 --> 02:16:09.880
that's the best day. Emails.
It's time to get up, time to

2096
02:16:09.920 --> 02:16:13.279
get up, so much to do? Are you ready to play emails?

2097
02:16:13.439 --> 02:16:18.920
Time to get up? The time
to get up. We'll have phone today.

2098
02:16:20.159 --> 02:16:22.680
I'm ready done. Fantastic emails.
We have an emails song the Fatures.

2099
02:16:22.680 --> 02:16:26.720
Brad's a good our shows, he
says, emails a bunch really weird

2100
02:16:28.479 --> 02:16:31.760
questions, weird to be Did you
guys just use that one all the time

2101
02:16:31.840 --> 02:16:35.239
every time, like you because you
show sometime. No, no, no,

2102
02:16:35.319 --> 02:16:37.360
it's always yours. But before that
one came about, we never had

2103
02:16:37.399 --> 02:16:41.040
an emails music before that. Sure, No. I just played the the

2104
02:16:41.120 --> 02:16:45.680
riff that that Phil by the way, who is awesome, And I think

2105
02:16:45.680 --> 02:16:48.280
you should play Quake two with you, right, Dave? Yeah he did.

2106
02:16:48.639 --> 02:16:52.680
Yeah, he cut out like a
little bit from our from our main

2107
02:16:52.760 --> 02:16:56.639
theme. And that's our interstitial music. Done done. I can't remember how

2108
02:16:56.639 --> 02:17:00.600
it goes. Now I've got I've
got an actual I've gotten email here.

2109
02:17:00.680 --> 02:17:03.399
That then is a great segue for
before we get to that Drew. Where

2110
02:17:03.399 --> 02:17:07.639
can people send your emails? BombCast
at Giant bomb dot com. I'm sorry,

2111
02:17:07.319 --> 02:17:11.479
bombomcast at giant bomb dot com.
I'm sorry one more time, BombCast

2112
02:17:11.559 --> 02:17:16.120
at giant bomb dot com. Send
your emails to BombCast at giant bomb dot

2113
02:17:16.200 --> 02:17:22.280
com. Was that BombCast at giant
bomb dot com. That's right, Bob,

2114
02:17:22.360 --> 02:17:26.319
Giant dot Bomb. Silly Goose.
Max Now says, I don't know

2115
02:17:26.360 --> 02:17:30.239
where he got this, but he
says silly goose and then has a fake

2116
02:17:30.319 --> 02:17:39.520
laugh that goes with it, so
he'll just be like silly guess what anyway,

2117
02:17:39.639 --> 02:17:43.840
I had mentioned an email. This
email comes from Aiden. He says,

2118
02:17:45.840 --> 02:17:50.280
Hello bombardiers, Aiden, Aiden,
we want to go with fran Will

2119
02:17:50.360 --> 02:17:56.000
and Defoe. Thanks that you guys
from Australia. He says, hell knows

2120
02:17:56.079 --> 02:18:01.239
does all the musical stuff. Oh
that's a fun been wandering for quite a

2121
02:18:01.239 --> 02:18:05.799
while. Alm musically talented and clined
each the thought, well, let's crossed

2122
02:18:05.799 --> 02:18:13.920
my mind on numerous occasions. This
is like, Jeff K Yeah. Also,

2123
02:18:13.920 --> 02:18:18.959
did you read the theme song for
the Bombcaster's license from some library?

2124
02:18:20.319 --> 02:18:24.000
Where does it all come from?
So? Yeah, our bomb cast themes?

2125
02:18:24.280 --> 02:18:26.280
I think Phil has done most of
them, build it all? Did

2126
02:18:26.399 --> 02:18:30.600
all of them? Yeah? Uh, and we've we've kind of tapped him

2127
02:18:30.600 --> 02:18:33.680
over the years. How many of
you had now one for each year we've

2128
02:18:33.719 --> 02:18:41.520
had some. He hasn't done every
single piece that's ever been on the show.

2129
02:18:41.639 --> 02:18:43.600
No, but he you know,
he wrote the original, He wrote

2130
02:18:43.600 --> 02:18:46.479
the melody, Yeah, and has
remixed it many many a time and reposed

2131
02:18:46.680 --> 02:18:50.200
we arranged it. Uh. You
know, Jeff's got the band and stuff

2132
02:18:50.200 --> 02:18:54.159
like that. I think he's he's
pretty synthy. He definitely Uh. I

2133
02:18:54.200 --> 02:18:56.920
think he can play a guitar too, plays a bass, play bass.

2134
02:18:56.000 --> 02:19:00.799
Yeah, Brady, you were into
a little you gli oh. I never

2135
02:19:00.840 --> 02:19:05.079
got one of those. What what's
your instrumental choice? The vocals? The

2136
02:19:05.120 --> 02:19:09.040
brad pipes? Hey, Vinny,
you remember that a time? Yeah song?

2137
02:19:09.239 --> 02:19:13.799
Yeah? Did it go a little
something like yeah this you've been just

2138
02:19:13.840 --> 02:19:16.399
surrender because of stand my ground.
You been just surred because of stand my

2139
02:19:16.479 --> 02:19:28.879
ground. You better just stround you
better track playing it down track FI track.

2140
02:19:30.079 --> 02:19:35.200
It takes so incredible In school,
Yeah, yeah, Drew, you've

2141
02:19:35.200 --> 02:19:39.120
played the piano for me. Yeah, you've even played Halo on the piano.

2142
02:19:39.680 --> 02:19:43.600
Yeah. Do you play anything else? Uh? No, I was

2143
02:19:43.639 --> 02:19:48.760
in chorus in school, Dave.
You've played guitars, I sing Uh.

2144
02:19:50.000 --> 02:19:52.799
I like to sing blue ground or
sing blues music with you. Yeah,

2145
02:19:54.280 --> 02:19:58.479
and you built your own guitar once
I did. Once would working was in

2146
02:19:58.559 --> 02:20:03.239
early You can batch it barely well, I'm terrible at it. Uh,

2147
02:20:03.399 --> 02:20:07.319
classically trained oboist for real? No, no, oh man. I played

2148
02:20:07.319 --> 02:20:09.200
the harmonica a little bit better.
Yeah. Can you do you like that?

2149
02:20:09.319 --> 02:20:13.520
I can play oh Susannah? Oh
wow, I can riff man.

2150
02:20:13.799 --> 02:20:15.959
I don't have one of those things
that goes around your neck. You don't

2151
02:20:16.079 --> 02:20:18.799
pretty. You still use your hands? Yeah, yeah, I hope you

2152
02:20:18.840 --> 02:20:22.840
have to use your hands to make
the wall. It's important video you play

2153
02:20:22.879 --> 02:20:26.799
guitar, I do. I dabble
in the in the guitar, a little

2154
02:20:26.879 --> 02:20:30.680
little piano. I played trumpet in
the really elementary school. I was the

2155
02:20:30.719 --> 02:20:33.159
trumpest played trumbo. And if we're
going that far back, yeah, what

2156
02:20:33.239 --> 02:20:37.360
kind of trum polished? Or was
it rusty? Okay, I don't know.

2157
02:20:37.399 --> 02:20:46.639
It's whatever they get a music store. You probably know where. I'm

2158
02:20:46.719 --> 02:20:52.040
sure here this whole email has been
a set up for that joke. I

2159
02:20:52.079 --> 02:20:54.479
had to wait. I had to
look up Brat played in the elementary school

2160
02:20:54.479 --> 02:21:01.319
and his mom who I wrote that
email? I used Max as an excuse

2161
02:21:01.360 --> 02:21:05.159
to buy a guitar when he was
born. I'm not afraid to admit it,

2162
02:21:05.360 --> 02:21:07.680
I said I had. My wife
had told me, Like a friend

2163
02:21:07.719 --> 02:21:09.920
who actually plays guitar in a band
was like, oh, yeah, he

2164
02:21:09.959 --> 02:21:11.879
bought like when his son was born, like bought him a guitar for his

2165
02:21:11.920 --> 02:21:15.319
birth year and like that that was
kind of awesome. I was like,

2166
02:21:15.399 --> 02:21:20.440
that's such an awesome idea. We
should buy Max a guitar, Like I

2167
02:21:20.479 --> 02:21:24.440
bought him a telecaster because I really
wanted to talk about So now you just

2168
02:21:24.479 --> 02:21:31.000
play his guitar. No, that's
keep it. You pre bought a guitar

2169
02:21:31.319 --> 02:21:35.920
for your child for like when for
when he's like if if he wants to

2170
02:21:35.920 --> 02:21:37.920
play a guitar, there's but how
awesome would it be? Like I would

2171
02:21:39.000 --> 02:21:41.360
be psyched if I had a nineteen
seventy eight guitar that was like in mint

2172
02:21:41.360 --> 02:21:46.639
condition. My wife up there,
I'm not gonna put in the attic.

2173
02:21:46.159 --> 02:21:50.040
She plays in multiple bands, plays
multiple instruments. She didn't do that.

2174
02:21:50.239 --> 02:21:56.680
Yeah, she bought the Prince of
She bought prince no like prince, not

2175
02:21:56.760 --> 02:22:01.879
like prince, not like pancakes and
princes, but like bought like small little

2176
02:22:01.920 --> 02:22:07.120
prints, like poster prints of instruments. That's say, like beads for banjo,

2177
02:22:07.959 --> 02:22:11.799
Like I had cars in my room. Yeah yeah, oh yeah,

2178
02:22:11.840 --> 02:22:15.639
we've got manolins, We've got banjos
are all over the place. I'm not

2179
02:22:15.680 --> 02:22:18.959
saying it was rational. You're nuts. Where is it in the closet?

2180
02:22:18.159 --> 02:22:22.159
Yeah? Just is it like in
a box in a hard case? That

2181
02:22:22.239 --> 02:22:24.280
is, so you're just waiting for
him one day to say, Dad,

2182
02:22:24.319 --> 02:22:26.440
i'd really like to learn how to
play the guitar and be like, hey,

2183
02:22:26.479 --> 02:22:28.840
guess to go to the store or
whip this out to be like I

2184
02:22:28.920 --> 02:22:31.399
am no interest in the guitar and
be like, well, okay, you

2185
02:22:31.440 --> 02:22:35.399
know that's well, you want to
check out Dad's and new telecaster twenty twelve

2186
02:22:35.719 --> 02:22:41.200
telecaster how about Hey, we talked
a lot about will you'll like this one?

2187
02:22:41.799 --> 02:22:43.959
Drew onto a driving range? Okay, where you hit the golf ball.

2188
02:22:45.040 --> 02:22:46.959
I was listening to this this morning
on the way. Yeah and uh

2189
02:22:46.159 --> 02:22:50.520
And he said he went and he
hit golf balls and he has to like

2190
02:22:50.719 --> 02:22:54.600
use vision to to kind of track
the golf balls and see how far do

2191
02:22:54.680 --> 02:22:56.680
they go? Right? Getting this
right, you have to use your eyes

2192
02:22:56.719 --> 02:22:58.760
to measure half fall the golf balls, so you just kind of look at

2193
02:22:58.799 --> 02:23:03.639
the sunne that says like thirty five
yards and did the ball go further or

2194
02:23:03.680 --> 02:23:07.040
closer than that? Yeah, that's
the idea. It seems really inaccurate.

2195
02:23:07.319 --> 02:23:09.079
Okay, And I said, boy, why don't we just make the put

2196
02:23:09.159 --> 02:23:13.879
RFID tags and the balls and then
have a track how far your ball goes?

2197
02:23:13.000 --> 02:23:16.360
Yeah, that seems like something Vinco
could do. Uh. And we

2198
02:23:16.399 --> 02:23:20.399
got this, you know from Jake
that says last week Drew talked about going

2199
02:23:20.440 --> 02:23:22.680
into a driving range. I mentioned
that already, Jake, but thanks for

2200
02:23:22.000 --> 02:23:26.559
picking up a slack and he said
he had to watch how far the golf

2201
02:23:26.559 --> 02:23:30.559
balls go. Said all this ready, and I mentioned RFID tax He's saying,

2202
02:23:30.639 --> 02:23:33.079
Vinny, and I just want to
let you know I went to a

2203
02:23:33.200 --> 02:23:35.559
d driving range. This is Jake
and at the end of at the end

2204
02:23:35.559 --> 02:23:41.600
of last summer, and the balls
all had RFID tags. Wait what did

2205
02:23:41.600 --> 02:23:45.879
not see that? The balls to
stop me if you lose me all had

2206
02:23:46.000 --> 02:23:50.280
RFID tags. Golf balls, we're
talking golf balls all had RFID tags in

2207
02:23:50.319 --> 02:23:54.280
them and they would get associated to
a certain player based on a card which

2208
02:23:54.319 --> 02:23:58.639
looks like a credit card. And
then when you hit them the golf balls

2209
02:23:58.239 --> 02:24:01.879
to certain spots, you would get
a certain amount of points and it would

2210
02:24:01.920 --> 02:24:05.799
transmit back to a computer. Hold
on, but if it's transmitted to computer,

2211
02:24:05.840 --> 02:24:07.760
there's an RFID tag. That means
it's the fucking NSA can track your

2212
02:24:07.799 --> 02:24:11.079
balls. Now, Yeah, they
can track your balls. They've been tracking

2213
02:24:11.120 --> 02:24:13.719
your balls forever. Why why would
they need to track my balls? Who

2214
02:24:13.760 --> 02:24:16.319
doesn't want to track Wilson's ball?
I'm pretty sure no one. I don't

2215
02:24:16.360 --> 02:24:22.120
want anybody balls. I don't love
my wife track it weird? Gross?

2216
02:24:22.239 --> 02:24:26.520
No, they're good. I mean
there's the same number of dimples on each

2217
02:24:26.559 --> 02:24:28.399
one. They're all exactly the same
the balls. Maybe you feel if you

2218
02:24:28.479 --> 02:24:33.520
feel certain anomaly on your dimples and
your balls, you should probably get that

2219
02:24:33.600 --> 02:24:35.600
checked out. Go to the golf
pro. It's not gonna fly right,

2220
02:24:39.559 --> 02:24:41.719
Hey, Tony, what's up with
my ball? Let me give a feel

2221
02:24:41.920 --> 02:24:46.319
out here. No, they feel
pretty good, can you? Is this?

2222
02:24:46.399 --> 02:24:48.200
Is this one a little bit bigger
than the other one? It looks

2223
02:24:48.239 --> 02:24:52.200
unusual? I know, not as
there's a left well, they have to

2224
02:24:52.239 --> 02:24:54.479
bounce them off the ground to check
them, roll around in their fingertips.

2225
02:24:54.520 --> 02:24:56.639
No, your golf fine, let
me check out your putter. Do you

2226
02:24:56.680 --> 02:25:01.520
even wash your balls when you're at
the at the golf course? I try

2227
02:25:01.559 --> 02:25:05.000
everyone you wash your balls through.
I did not know it's in the ninth

2228
02:25:05.040 --> 02:25:07.559
hole. Usually you just dunk it
in there, switch, swish. And

2229
02:25:07.719 --> 02:25:09.920
this was a driving range, This
was not your house. I would think

2230
02:25:09.920 --> 02:25:15.040
they'd use radar to track the golf
balls as they leave. Yeah, because

2231
02:25:15.040 --> 02:25:18.639
where you like nineteen sixty, it's
Doppler radar. You can tell it follow

2232
02:25:18.719 --> 02:25:20.559
the path and get like a little
map of your slice or your hook or

2233
02:25:20.600 --> 02:25:24.840
your tags. But that's just gonna
tell you where it starts and where it

2234
02:25:24.840 --> 02:25:28.639
finishes, not the path that used
to get there radar. It's all about

2235
02:25:28.639 --> 02:25:33.319
the journey, then, he not
the destination. You're weird. So back

2236
02:25:33.319 --> 02:25:35.079
to the email. Was it cool? He said it was awesome. Yeah,

2237
02:25:35.319 --> 02:25:37.520
he thought it was amazed. Did
you have like a print out of

2238
02:25:37.600 --> 02:25:43.719
like where his like the track his
balls took. No, they don't provide

2239
02:25:43.760 --> 02:25:48.159
him with the map of his ball
location. I am fucking the man.

2240
02:25:48.399 --> 02:25:54.719
Oh, let's let's step this up
a bit. In the maturity sector scrowed

2241
02:25:54.799 --> 02:25:58.520
them. Last week he talked a
little about flip flops, and this week

2242
02:25:58.520 --> 02:26:01.520
we're gonna talk a little more about
fuck. This comes from Jordan. He

2243
02:26:01.559 --> 02:26:05.360
says, most of them. I
spend most of my time in some brown,

2244
02:26:05.559 --> 02:26:07.879
all leather flip flops, and I
would never wear them to the office.

2245
02:26:07.920 --> 02:26:13.799
But I've always thought they were acceptable
for any situation that did not require

2246
02:26:13.440 --> 02:26:20.079
a blazer. That it's a wide
range, like a fancy restaurant to like

2247
02:26:20.079 --> 02:26:22.680
you're wearing a tux seed, you're
not wearing a blazer, he says.

2248
02:26:22.079 --> 02:26:26.959
He what I'm implying from this is
a flip flops are a go. After

2249
02:26:26.040 --> 02:26:31.479
listening to last week's podcast, I
have one very important question. Is it

2250
02:26:31.520 --> 02:26:35.079
really true that there's still is such
thing as nice flip pops? So,

2251
02:26:35.079 --> 02:26:41.799
so, here's the thing. I
don't have a foot flop aficionado. Yeah,

2252
02:26:41.840 --> 02:26:45.120
I have been wearing flip flops for
many years. In fact, I

2253
02:26:45.120 --> 02:26:48.120
thought you were like a hippie early
when I met you, I was like,

2254
02:26:48.159 --> 02:26:50.799
you were wearing them all the time. This was the most flip flop

2255
02:26:50.879 --> 02:26:54.440
unfriendly office I've ever worked in.
Yeah, I thought you guys, everybody

2256
02:26:54.440 --> 02:26:58.159
has beards, you're all internet fuckers. I thought it was just like live

2257
02:26:58.200 --> 02:27:03.600
and let Live man las Fair,
No but no. Eventually Jeff pulled me

2258
02:27:03.639 --> 02:27:07.159
aside and was like, hey,
we got to talk about the flops.

2259
02:27:07.200 --> 02:27:13.520
Like, I don't know where yours
what can wear? He doesn't wear flip

2260
02:27:13.799 --> 02:27:16.360
He left his flops in our office
when he quit our because he didn't because

2261
02:27:16.360 --> 02:27:20.319
he didn't wear him. He just
walked out barefoot and lose some fancy free

2262
02:27:20.440 --> 02:27:24.159
You have the advantage Coonts shoes in
there too. Those are amazing. Don't

2263
02:27:24.159 --> 02:27:28.440
ever talk best pair of bad So
what are you saying here? We all

2264
02:27:28.479 --> 02:27:31.319
as the kind of defender of the
flop? Uh, where are you gonna

2265
02:27:31.360 --> 02:27:35.040
what are you gonna answer? Is
there no nice flip flop? I have

2266
02:27:35.079 --> 02:27:37.840
a pair of nice flip flops that
you would wear, So you have dress

2267
02:27:37.840 --> 02:27:43.520
flop. I've been to I've been
to parts of the of the Equatorial regions

2268
02:27:43.559 --> 02:27:48.520
that are like nice resorts where you
go and basically you know you're wearing flops

2269
02:27:48.559 --> 02:27:52.799
the whole time. Are you wearing
sandals? Are you wearing horse or equator?

2270
02:27:52.879 --> 02:27:58.399
Equator equine his horse? I believe? Okay, yeah, tropical regions.

2271
02:27:58.399 --> 02:28:01.360
I wouldn't be prize with either.
With you, it's both I we

2272
02:28:01.920 --> 02:28:05.840
you don't wear flipops around horses because
you will lose toes that way, all

2273
02:28:05.879 --> 02:28:07.239
right, because they step on you
when you're not wearing real shoes. You

2274
02:28:07.360 --> 02:28:11.479
got if you're if you're wearing real
shoes. Don't wear sneakers around horses either,

2275
02:28:11.600 --> 02:28:15.680
Why because they step on you and
they weigh thousands of wells I wear,

2276
02:28:15.799 --> 02:28:20.879
fuck you up. Boots are what
you wear around horses. Boots cowboy

2277
02:28:20.920 --> 02:28:22.360
boots? No, well, I
mean if you're a fucking cowboy, Yeah,

2278
02:28:22.360 --> 02:28:24.879
of course i am, But you
should just wear There are things called

2279
02:28:24.920 --> 02:28:28.680
paddock boots. There, there are
work boots. Any of those will be

2280
02:28:28.680 --> 02:28:33.040
a sufficient for wearing on horses if
you are at a resort. Yes,

2281
02:28:33.280 --> 02:28:35.440
it is acceptable to wear a pair
of nice leather flip flops to dinner.

2282
02:28:35.760 --> 02:28:41.040
What about plastic splastic flipflops? Also? Okay, somebody's look down their nose,

2283
02:28:41.280 --> 02:28:45.040
but they're probably an asshole, so
you know it's fine. Fuck them,

2284
02:28:45.280 --> 02:28:48.399
don't don't wear leather. I'm i
gotta come down on the flip flops.

2285
02:28:48.399 --> 02:28:52.600
I'm gonna say leather flip flops are
called sandals. Nope, nope,

2286
02:28:52.639 --> 02:28:54.479
sandals have a thing in the back
that holds the heel on so you don't

2287
02:28:54.520 --> 02:28:58.559
make the traditional flip flop noise.
You're right if you're wearing those, No,

2288
02:28:58.760 --> 02:29:01.639
you're you. You're out of my
restaurant. If you can walk silently

2289
02:29:01.680 --> 02:29:05.840
in the shoe without having to modify
your stride in a noticeable way, it's

2290
02:29:05.879 --> 02:29:11.559
probably okay. Otherwise, say no
to the flop. Okay, there you

2291
02:29:11.600 --> 02:29:16.959
go. I'm glad we had you
here. I'm just saying, like you

2292
02:29:16.280 --> 02:29:20.760
likely birkenstocks are okay. But the
other thing that you people who grew up

2293
02:29:20.799 --> 02:29:24.040
in Northern California don't know, is
it for a while in like the nineties,

2294
02:29:24.559 --> 02:29:28.799
you could go into a Sam's Club
and buy a pair of fucking Birkenstocks.

2295
02:29:28.920 --> 02:29:31.239
Well, they're made like right near
where Jeff and I love Yeah here,

2296
02:29:31.440 --> 02:29:37.040
Yeah, that's world headquarters. But
around when you moved to Northern California,

2297
02:29:37.040 --> 02:29:39.040
if you wear birkenstocks, people assume
a lot of lifestyle choices about you

2298
02:29:39.079 --> 02:29:43.440
that may or may not be true. Like, for example, Dave,

2299
02:29:43.879 --> 02:29:50.040
would you be interested in a live
action fantast mcgorian movie? Absolutely? Why

2300
02:29:50.079 --> 02:29:54.719
not? Be amazing? Because we
saw it already it was. Is it

2301
02:29:54.760 --> 02:29:58.879
based on the first one or don't
tell me you are bulls. I would

2302
02:29:58.040 --> 02:30:01.799
if they do that, I'm you
know, if they did that movie the

2303
02:30:01.840 --> 02:30:03.959
way they should do it is as
like the Clue movie, Like I want

2304
02:30:05.040 --> 02:30:07.360
different endings, like how how awesome
would that be? Fantastic? I'd love

2305
02:30:07.399 --> 02:30:13.799
to see it, Yeah, fantastic. What if he Berta. Williams was

2306
02:30:13.840 --> 02:30:18.559
there, She's on her boat like
she's she's got check out? Yeah,

2307
02:30:18.559 --> 02:30:20.680
oh she did, totally did.
Yeah, she's kind of awesome. I

2308
02:30:20.760 --> 02:30:24.760
love I love the Yeah, I
loved her Bird of Williams. Sorry,

2309
02:30:24.760 --> 02:30:26.680
I love that. She was basically
like, yeah, kind of fucking.

2310
02:30:26.719 --> 02:30:31.959
I don't need to make video games
anymore. Yeah, I got I'm having

2311
02:30:31.000 --> 02:30:33.280
a good time. They got out
at the right time. Once you get

2312
02:30:33.280 --> 02:30:37.440
boat money, then then who cares? What else do you do? Do

2313
02:30:37.479 --> 02:30:41.079
you guys know who Miriam Margolis is. She was on Er one year.

2314
02:30:43.159 --> 02:30:48.639
Probably she's a good wife. Rumor
has it that she will be And I

2315
02:30:48.639 --> 02:30:52.040
don't know if she was that a
question. Yes, she was in Harry

2316
02:30:52.040 --> 02:30:54.440
Potter The Legend of the Guardians.
Do you remember who Harriet is? Harry

2317
02:30:54.520 --> 02:30:58.600
what? From the Fantastic I must
have been the main woman that was walking

2318
02:30:58.639 --> 02:31:01.760
around that we were to get her
head chop halfsome right, remember the weird

2319
02:31:01.920 --> 02:31:05.920
wasn't there a weird sex scene?
Well? I remember that was Victoria Morsel?

2320
02:31:05.120 --> 02:31:07.920
I think was the actress who played
Morsel? Really? Yeah, I

2321
02:31:07.920 --> 02:31:11.520
think so that's got to be a
fake name, right, Okay Victoria Morsel.

2322
02:31:11.840 --> 02:31:15.799
Okay, sorry, there we go. That's better. So anyway,

2323
02:31:15.879 --> 02:31:18.520
Dave, you're in. Yeah,
let's do it. I but I want

2324
02:31:18.559 --> 02:31:22.719
a clue. I want clue endings. I want different endings based on you

2325
02:31:22.760 --> 02:31:26.079
know, our how our people rece
that game. That game had want to

2326
02:31:26.120 --> 02:31:31.079
sing along, real uncomfortable mixes of
violence and sex. Yeah, it was

2327
02:31:31.120 --> 02:31:33.360
weird. It was a weird game. That was send him by Conrad and

2328
02:31:33.399 --> 02:31:37.159
he he kind of also wanted to
know what other cra games should be made

2329
02:31:37.200 --> 02:31:43.559
into low budget movies. Half Life, Kings Quest, Kings West wouldn't work

2330
02:31:43.559 --> 02:31:48.000
well. Police Quest though, Police
Quest would be. So who plays the

2331
02:31:48.280 --> 02:31:52.319
one of the cops in police Quests? One of the cops? Man John

2332
02:31:52.399 --> 02:31:56.120
Voight? Yeah, sure, John
Voight, he could be just the He

2333
02:31:56.440 --> 02:32:00.719
could probably also play the villain just
like give me that heat, you know,

2334
02:32:01.040 --> 02:32:05.000
John Voyd with the weird mustache,
Like, I'll take that Police Quest.

2335
02:32:05.040 --> 02:32:05.920
I didn't. I wasn't a fan. Brad. Do you like those

2336
02:32:05.920 --> 02:32:13.520
Sierra games? Right? Police Quest
game, Police Murphy. Text Murphy was

2337
02:32:13.559 --> 02:32:15.600
a SERI game, right? No, No, it wasn't. It was

2338
02:32:16.319 --> 02:32:20.040
Access Access Dynamic. Yeah, the
links people. I stand by that Text

2339
02:32:20.120 --> 02:32:24.159
Murphy would still be a great Tierra
adventure game movie. But then again,

2340
02:32:24.159 --> 02:32:28.120
it's just like, did you see
the new Text Murphy game coming out?

2341
02:32:28.280 --> 02:32:33.040
Wait? What is the same guy
playing text? Is he like Grizzled Oldest

2342
02:32:33.079 --> 02:32:37.920
Ship? Now he's pretty old,
he's been years looked amazing. And there's

2343
02:32:37.000 --> 02:32:39.479
if you guys watch it, Oh
my god. The first time I watched

2344
02:32:39.559 --> 02:32:41.840
I was, I stopped it and
I had to show Drew. There's a

2345
02:32:41.879 --> 02:32:46.680
shot of a dude who looks like
he worked for Jeff in Space Egypt.

2346
02:32:46.079 --> 02:32:50.000
Like it looked like one of Space
Space Egypt's minions. And if you watched

2347
02:32:50.000 --> 02:32:54.360
the trailer for it, you well
see him. I'm gonna go do that

2348
02:32:54.440 --> 02:32:58.239
right now. All right, here's
a there's a quick question. We'll just

2349
02:32:58.280 --> 02:33:01.319
go around the room. This comes
from Matt. Hey, guys, I

2350
02:33:01.399 --> 02:33:05.079
read a lot of books. Are
there any good books about video games you

2351
02:33:05.079 --> 02:33:09.319
would recommend? Oh, I've read
a Masters of Doom. Oh, that's

2352
02:33:09.319 --> 02:33:11.799
what I was going to say.
That's a great game, a great book.

2353
02:33:11.959 --> 02:33:13.120
We got a good one that that
I read that I liked. It

2354
02:33:13.200 --> 02:33:18.280
was more it Encyclopedia. It was
called, I want to say it was

2355
02:33:18.360 --> 02:33:24.840
Dungeons and Desktops, which just went
through every PCRPG that had ever been made.

2356
02:33:24.959 --> 02:33:28.200
Sounds interesting and just kind of talked
about their influence and how they were

2357
02:33:28.280 --> 02:33:31.079
kind of significant. I don't think
you could get on Kindle or anything,

2358
02:33:31.520 --> 02:33:37.000
but it was an interesting read because
the guy you could tell he was like

2359
02:33:37.000 --> 02:33:43.319
a PCRPG nut, and so he
broke all the little genres up like into

2360
02:33:43.360 --> 02:33:46.360
these things, and there were games
in it that like I had no idea

2361
02:33:46.520 --> 02:33:50.280
of, and you know, it
really was neat, like just talking about

2362
02:33:50.559 --> 02:33:56.760
like how important dagger Fall was,
you know, Drew got anything, nothing,

2363
02:33:56.879 --> 02:34:01.440
nothing nonfiction but fiction wise, Lady
Player one. It's pretty good.

2364
02:34:01.520 --> 02:34:05.719
Yeah, this very video game related. My on that kind of note that

2365
02:34:05.840 --> 02:34:07.879
super sad true love story, I
feel like, is a good book for

2366
02:34:07.920 --> 02:34:11.840
people who play video games, if
you want to depress yourself with whatever you

2367
02:34:11.920 --> 02:34:13.959
think. I think it's more good
for people that are on the internet.

2368
02:34:15.040 --> 02:34:16.360
Well, like that's what I mean, like social media and video games,

2369
02:34:16.360 --> 02:34:20.760
Like people of this generation should read
that if you're on just in TV.

2370
02:34:20.200 --> 02:34:24.520
Yeah, that's a that's an interesting
book to read. Yeah, Will,

2371
02:34:24.319 --> 02:34:28.760
what are we talking about books about
video games? Or maybe like if you're

2372
02:34:28.840 --> 02:34:31.959
way into video games, you'll like
somebody take Masters of Doom. You had

2373
02:34:31.040 --> 02:34:35.440
snow Crash earlier. Yeah, I
don't think that. That's pretty far afield

2374
02:34:35.479 --> 02:34:39.920
of the topic. Uh. That
Neil Stevenson book about MMOs wasn't very good.

2375
02:34:39.120 --> 02:34:41.040
I mean it was, it was
okay, but it wasn't really about

2376
02:34:41.079 --> 02:34:43.760
MMOs. I got nothing. I
think Masters of Doom is great. Yeah,

2377
02:34:43.799 --> 02:34:46.360
I think you should watch King of
Kong. Isn't He isn't the documentary?

2378
02:34:46.479 --> 02:34:48.959
Isn't he? Kind of persona on
Garto? Now that Claying was a

2379
02:34:50.040 --> 02:34:54.079
huge disaster, I have. I
have deep love for Neil Stevenson as a

2380
02:34:54.120 --> 02:34:58.360
creator of like five of my favorite
books. Is one of my favorite I

2381
02:34:58.719 --> 02:35:03.799
I got no beef. I feel
like he probably backed something like lent his

2382
02:35:03.920 --> 02:35:07.360
name to something. But so did
Gabe Newell and a bunch of other people.

2383
02:35:07.719 --> 02:35:09.840
There are a lot of people were
in that video for God gave.

2384
02:35:09.920 --> 02:35:16.239
Newell was involved in Yeah, so
like I, I mean, they fulfilled.

2385
02:35:16.600 --> 02:35:18.639
I think their argument is that they
fulfilled the letter of the kickstart,

2386
02:35:18.799 --> 02:35:24.520
right, But but maybe we're disingenuous
in doing so. And also the razor

2387
02:35:24.600 --> 02:35:28.559
Hydra is not very good in my
experience. Brad, you got a book.

2388
02:35:31.000 --> 02:35:33.479
I can't really think of anything besides
a Master from Doom off the top

2389
02:35:33.520 --> 02:35:35.079
of the head. But the reason
I would say that one is that I

2390
02:35:35.079 --> 02:35:39.239
don't want to read books about games
or why they're important or whatever. I

2391
02:35:39.280 --> 02:35:43.440
want to read about the stories of
their making. Sure, like that book

2392
02:35:43.520 --> 02:35:46.399
is about the people who made Doom, not you know, the game itself.

2393
02:35:46.440 --> 02:35:48.959
It's not like, oh, here's
why Doom was seminole and important in

2394
02:35:50.000 --> 02:35:52.399
his day. It's like it's like
here's human stories. Here's yeah, here's

2395
02:35:52.399 --> 02:35:56.079
in detail, like the human drama
and what those guys were up to that

2396
02:35:56.159 --> 02:35:58.959
led to this thing getting made.
I also wonder if Masters of Doom is

2397
02:35:58.000 --> 02:36:03.840
interesting to people who live through like
the dawn of gaming news coverage on the

2398
02:36:03.840 --> 02:36:05.639
Internet. Like if you went into
that not knowing who those guys are,

2399
02:36:07.079 --> 02:36:09.520
probably would be inherently that's interesting.
So homework for anybody who's under the age

2400
02:36:09.520 --> 02:36:13.079
of thirty listening to this is to
go read that book and then right back

2401
02:36:13.079 --> 02:36:18.000
and let us know if it sucks
or not based on your lack of knowledge

2402
02:36:18.040 --> 02:36:20.000
about the context around A lot of
a lot of people younger than us definitely

2403
02:36:20.040 --> 02:36:22.399
know who Carmack is because he's still
right, But like you don't. You

2404
02:36:22.440 --> 02:36:26.760
don't hear about Romero that much of
these days. But yeah, Rash,

2405
02:36:26.040 --> 02:36:30.559
I can't guess Isa Brash is a
valve like he's still around. I can't

2406
02:36:30.559 --> 02:36:33.639
think of any other books in that
vein. I've read some. I can't

2407
02:36:33.639 --> 02:36:35.920
remember the titles, but I usually
don't enjoy them. Usually they're a little

2408
02:36:37.319 --> 02:36:41.360
the masturbatory and the kind of celebration
of something, right, that's the kind

2409
02:36:41.399 --> 02:36:43.280
of thing I have. I want
nothing to do with, and I just

2410
02:36:43.319 --> 02:36:46.760
want to hear the nitty gritty details
of So you're saying there's a market there,

2411
02:36:46.840 --> 02:36:48.040
Yeah, totally. Well if the
video game tell all, Like,

2412
02:36:48.120 --> 02:36:50.680
I don't know that the industry is
old enough yet to really these guys are

2413
02:36:50.719 --> 02:36:54.719
still making games exactly like it.
Don't get there. You know, they're

2414
02:36:54.920 --> 02:36:56.760
still the potential to burn bridges and
stuff. If you're out there telling all

2415
02:36:56.799 --> 02:37:01.040
the sordid stories but there's also books
that are about D and D and pen

2416
02:37:01.120 --> 02:37:03.719
and paper stuff. There was a
reason one that came out that was called

2417
02:37:03.840 --> 02:37:09.239
of Dice and Men. Oh that
was just waiting to happen. Yeah,

2418
02:37:09.280 --> 02:37:11.840
it's kind of an interesting title.
But that's really fun to hear that because

2419
02:37:13.079 --> 02:37:16.399
I also I just got the Larry
Elmore Like art book, and it's got

2420
02:37:16.399 --> 02:37:22.200
a lot of dirt on, like
all the Wizards of the Coast and dragon

2421
02:37:22.319 --> 02:37:24.680
Lance stuff. I was like a
kickstart project, wasn't I was? I

2422
02:37:24.719 --> 02:37:31.200
just got it like a month's great. It's the arts, cool and funny.

2423
02:37:31.239 --> 02:37:33.239
If you like that kind of stuff
the right it needs to be edited

2424
02:37:33.559 --> 02:37:37.200
by like a real editor. Did
any of you read the book the Dan

2425
02:37:37.239 --> 02:37:39.479
Takahashi book about the Dawn of the
Xbox? Oh? Actually, I always

2426
02:37:39.520 --> 02:37:41.399
want to go back and read those. Yeah. I wondered if they were

2427
02:37:41.440 --> 02:37:46.280
businessy or if they were like if
it's about the birth of you know the

2428
02:37:46.280 --> 02:37:48.600
man. I know the one about
the he did too, right, he

2429
02:37:48.600 --> 02:37:50.959
did one for the original, one
for the three six The one for the

2430
02:37:50.000 --> 02:37:52.040
three sixty is the one I wanted
to read because it has a lot of

2431
02:37:52.040 --> 02:37:56.840
details, talking to like people that
worked in the manufacturing lines for that thing,

2432
02:37:56.920 --> 02:38:00.799
talking about how rushed it was,
and like how well, I mean,

2433
02:38:00.799 --> 02:38:03.200
supply was really short on that.
Well, not only that, but

2434
02:38:03.239 --> 02:38:05.399
like what the decisions were that led
up to them putting that thing out earlier

2435
02:38:05.440 --> 02:38:07.920
than they should have to try to
beat Sony to market, and like how

2436
02:38:07.959 --> 02:38:11.440
it led to the red ring of
death because it wasn't tested properly and stuff.

2437
02:38:13.000 --> 02:38:16.120
That stuff sounds pretty pretty dirty.
Let us move on. We've got

2438
02:38:16.399 --> 02:38:22.760
some and what this podcast has become, but we have started getting some great

2439
02:38:22.879 --> 02:38:28.239
stories. Some of I love hearing
stories about other people's jobs, especially jobs

2440
02:38:28.280 --> 02:38:31.200
we have to interface with the human
and we have started getting emails about people

2441
02:38:31.239 --> 02:38:35.799
who are in the delivery service or
is it gonna be as sad as last

2442
02:38:35.840 --> 02:38:39.559
week's We've got We got them a
few, and hey, man, keep

2443
02:38:39.639 --> 02:38:41.360
them coming. I should say,
if you have any book recommendations, say

2444
02:38:41.399 --> 02:38:45.360
put him in the comments or something
of the podcast and check them out there.

2445
02:38:45.559 --> 02:38:48.239
People will check it out. Let's
move on to hear a little bit

2446
02:38:48.280 --> 02:38:50.920
more about the working world. Because
we got a few, and I had

2447
02:38:50.920 --> 02:38:54.959
to pick the ones. I couldn't
pick them all. Can't pick them all

2448
02:38:54.239 --> 02:38:58.479
in the interest of time, but
lace you could post these. Yeah,

2449
02:38:58.520 --> 02:39:03.559
it's my Studs Turcle book a great
book, but it is a good book

2450
02:39:03.559 --> 02:39:07.159
you recommended that I thoroughly enjoyed.
Yeah, it's a hefty book. Studs

2451
02:39:07.159 --> 02:39:11.879
Turcle is a dope name too.
Hearing your delivery stories inspired me to write

2452
02:39:11.920 --> 02:39:13.639
you guys. I did dorg store
sales in college for a bit, which

2453
02:39:13.680 --> 02:39:18.559
was weird, but my clerk stories
are probably better, as comes from the

2454
02:39:18.639 --> 02:39:24.319
nick. The oddest story was my
first day on the job at a new

2455
02:39:24.440 --> 02:39:28.840
store. I applied, got the
job, and came in for my first

2456
02:39:28.920 --> 02:39:31.479
day. I was supposed to shadow
the girl had been working in the shift,

2457
02:39:31.879 --> 02:39:37.799
but things quickly got out of hand. The girls started our shift by

2458
02:39:37.799 --> 02:39:39.840
turning the drawer over to me.
We count out the cash and agree in

2459
02:39:39.920 --> 02:39:43.520
writing over what's in the drawer.
She had well over a thousand dollars in

2460
02:39:43.520 --> 02:39:46.959
the drawer, which is insane.
While counting, she said she was going

2461
02:39:48.000 --> 02:39:52.040
to take a six hundred dollars loan
out against my register. I told her

2462
02:39:52.639 --> 02:39:58.239
fuck off with that noise. Apparently
her kids dad needed the money, because

2463
02:39:58.239 --> 02:40:03.040
he showed up with the kids screaming
about the money, threatening us both.

2464
02:40:03.559 --> 02:40:07.799
I implied that I give no shits
about your woes and that you're not taking

2465
02:40:07.799 --> 02:40:13.840
my employer's money from the register.
I proceeded to bring up customers and vacuum

2466
02:40:13.879 --> 02:40:18.040
the floor. Things got heated between
these two, and a customer eventually informed

2467
02:40:18.120 --> 02:40:22.799
us that the police were on their
way. Another round of fighting and demanding

2468
02:40:22.840 --> 02:40:26.840
money commenced, and I restated my
fuck off position on the matter. The

2469
02:40:26.879 --> 02:40:31.959
cops arrived shortly, prompting the woman
to grab a diaper bag from the man

2470
02:40:33.000 --> 02:40:35.159
and run into the bathroom. He
chased her, leaving the kids in the

2471
02:40:35.200 --> 02:40:39.159
middle of the store, and pounded
on the nile a locked bathroom door.

2472
02:40:39.920 --> 02:40:41.920
Cops came, got the bathroom door
opened, and it was apparent that she

2473
02:40:43.000 --> 02:40:46.479
had been trying to flush some sort
of drugs down the toilet. They took

2474
02:40:46.520 --> 02:40:50.440
them and the kids and left.
She fought like a banshee. I half

2475
02:40:50.440 --> 02:40:54.120
expected her to start yelling Attica.
That left me with my favorite memory of

2476
02:40:54.120 --> 02:40:58.159
the afternoon. Calling my new boss
about an hour into my training. Hi

2477
02:40:58.280 --> 02:41:05.959
boss, Yes, it's Nick from
the store. Nick. How's it going.

2478
02:41:07.520 --> 02:41:11.959
Is there a problem? Yeah?
Kind of, Bonnie, She's calling.

2479
02:41:11.959 --> 02:41:16.760
The lady tried to steal six hundred
dollars from the register, got into

2480
02:41:16.760 --> 02:41:20.040
a domestic dispute, had her kids
taken from her, tried to flood shrugs

2481
02:41:20.079 --> 02:41:22.079
to hide them from the cops,
and was taken away in a squad car

2482
02:41:22.239 --> 02:41:26.959
fighting. What. Yeah, I'm
going to annoy that part of the training

2483
02:41:28.680 --> 02:41:33.440
that happened in the last hour.
Yep, weird huh. He then offered

2484
02:41:33.440 --> 02:41:37.639
to come down, but I told
him I could work some pumps, a

2485
02:41:37.639 --> 02:41:39.159
lot of machines, and a registered
by myself. He trusted me and for

2486
02:41:39.200 --> 02:41:43.760
some reason stayed at home and that
was my first hour on that job.

2487
02:41:43.239 --> 02:41:46.719
Team messed up, But I've been
paying the bills as a telemarketer since moving

2488
02:41:46.719 --> 02:41:50.879
to that town, so this was
a huge step up. At the time,

2489
02:41:52.959 --> 02:41:56.680
Wow, I thought this was gonna
be I never thought this would happen

2490
02:41:56.719 --> 02:41:58.959
to me. But when he said
there was a girl that was training him,

2491
02:42:00.760 --> 02:42:03.520
yeah, I know that one.
Uh. It's a good first day

2492
02:42:03.520 --> 02:42:07.840
on the job. That's amazing.
I really wonder where he works. We

2493
02:42:07.920 --> 02:42:11.479
got a bunch of these. I'm
gonna I'm gonna read two more. The

2494
02:42:11.479 --> 02:42:16.200
moral of these stories is always that
just like I felt, I feel bad

2495
02:42:16.239 --> 02:42:18.719
when I go to the store,
to the to the door to pick up

2496
02:42:18.719 --> 02:42:22.040
a pizza, and I'm going sweatpants
yeah, or flipflight, but everybody else

2497
02:42:22.120 --> 02:42:26.200
is horrible yeah yeah, or amazing. Like the best case, we had

2498
02:42:26.200 --> 02:42:30.360
somebody to say that, like like
five out of ten times a girl dropped

2499
02:42:30.360 --> 02:42:33.840
her towel or something. I'm gonna
bet that four of those five times is

2500
02:42:33.840 --> 02:42:35.920
probably somebody who's telling you want to
stay on desperately, like please pick this

2501
02:42:35.959 --> 02:42:41.319
back, throw the streets. Chris
writes in I used to be a carpet

2502
02:42:41.319 --> 02:42:45.879
cleaner. I answered a call to
a client's home and he answered the door

2503
02:42:45.920 --> 02:42:50.079
with no shirt on and kind of
ran his fingers like up his abdomen,

2504
02:42:50.200 --> 02:42:54.040
all a silence of the lamb style, and I thought that was a little

2505
02:42:54.079 --> 02:42:58.399
weird, but I had a job
to do. He showed me the room

2506
02:42:58.440 --> 02:43:03.239
he wanted me to clean. It
was a door with a padlock on the

2507
02:43:03.280 --> 02:43:07.840
outside of it. He opened it
and it led to his garage. The

2508
02:43:07.840 --> 02:43:13.520
garage door had been bolted into the
concrete at the bottom, and the only

2509
02:43:13.559 --> 02:43:18.959
object inside the room was a stained
mattress. The carpet had several dark stains

2510
02:43:18.000 --> 02:43:24.639
on it, as well as well
as urine. I cleaned the room while

2511
02:43:24.680 --> 02:43:26.559
my partner watched the owner and then
we got the hell out of there.

2512
02:43:28.319 --> 02:43:37.479
This is the story about how one
time I aided a serial killer. Oh

2513
02:43:37.520 --> 02:43:41.479
man, oh my god, I
really hope he called the cops. Oh,

2514
02:43:41.520 --> 02:43:46.200
I thought this was about a unwarranted
bedroom in the garage. Yeah,

2515
02:43:46.360 --> 02:43:52.719
you have to get at it was
an unlicensed bedroom in the garage to the

2516
02:43:52.760 --> 02:43:56.120
floor. I mean it seems like
you could because we live in America.

2517
02:43:56.479 --> 02:43:58.920
Yeah, I can't do what you
want. No that you have to fucking

2518
02:44:00.000 --> 02:44:01.799
followed the letter of the law.
I don't like these stories. You want

2519
02:44:01.799 --> 02:44:07.399
to freaking me out, Like I'm
done after that one you got, well,

2520
02:44:07.479 --> 02:44:11.559
just gotta drive me now. I
don't trust him. Hey, you

2521
02:44:11.559 --> 02:44:13.680
want to see my my garage that
I bolted the door shut and there's a

2522
02:44:13.680 --> 02:44:22.399
mattress in there. I don't guess
what's in there. Yeah, there's this

2523
02:44:22.479 --> 02:44:26.559
couple of hands. What is that
on the wall? I got a bandsaw.

2524
02:44:26.639 --> 02:44:28.799
You know, they invented those for
cuttings, but now you use them

2525
02:44:28.840 --> 02:44:33.479
for some magazines over there. And
I used to work on a magazine.

2526
02:44:33.760 --> 02:44:39.719
I don't on this kind of magazine. This is this is not this is

2527
02:44:39.760 --> 02:44:43.159
not a crazy work story. We
talked about dumb restaurants. I'll switch it

2528
02:44:43.239 --> 02:44:46.440
up a bit. They weren't going
to kind of depressed this do a whole

2529
02:44:46.479 --> 02:44:48.200
letters podcast. I know some of
these are so great. I just love

2530
02:44:48.239 --> 02:44:54.440
this stuff to death. I was
talking about we were talking about robotic food

2531
02:44:54.520 --> 02:44:58.600
preparers and servers. Uh, and
Michael says this maybe one ride in and

2532
02:44:58.719 --> 02:45:01.760
we did didn't have anything quiet that
fancy in the midas Midbass, but we

2533
02:45:01.840 --> 02:45:07.600
did have a hilariously shoddy replacement.
In the town I grew up in Sioux

2534
02:45:07.600 --> 02:45:11.399
City, Iowa, we have a
restaurant called the Pizza Peddler. Give you

2535
02:45:11.440 --> 02:45:15.239
an idea about the quality of this
place. It was housed in the former

2536
02:45:15.280 --> 02:45:20.600
town stockyards that a local eccentric had
been trying to turn into an entertainment complex

2537
02:45:20.639 --> 02:45:24.159
since the mid seventies. The same
rooms that once larger cows were now serving

2538
02:45:24.200 --> 02:45:30.360
pizza and also featured an indoor mint, a golf course made of old meatpack

2539
02:45:30.440 --> 02:45:39.639
doing machinery. Superclassic anyway, their
gimmick was that they fitted a human sized

2540
02:45:39.719 --> 02:45:45.719
coyote like figure onto a large remote
controlled tricycle, then put the tricycle front

2541
02:45:45.719 --> 02:45:48.639
wheel into a groove track in the
floor that ran in a loop around the

2542
02:45:48.719 --> 02:45:54.360
dining room and back to the kitchen
the blood track. This allowed them to

2543
02:45:54.559 --> 02:46:00.959
fill the coyotes surfing trade with food. Then humans unseen would drive it out

2544
02:46:01.000 --> 02:46:03.639
to your table, where presumably you
were required to pick it up off the

2545
02:46:03.680 --> 02:46:09.239
tray yourself, and had also had
a fast food speaker belt into it so

2546
02:46:09.280 --> 02:46:13.360
it could take your order and you
could request your check. The human size

2547
02:46:13.479 --> 02:46:16.959
really Places closed down in two thousand
and four when the building was deemed unfit

2548
02:46:18.040 --> 02:46:20.520
for occupancy, and some local youths
then set fire to it a couple of

2549
02:46:20.559 --> 02:46:24.840
years later. Allowayers remember as at
one place that you really wanted to go

2550
02:46:24.879 --> 02:46:31.200
eat at exactly one time and then
never again. There's a there's a hot

2551
02:46:31.200 --> 02:46:39.040
dog place in the stockyards in Petaluma. But that's different. That's like going

2552
02:46:39.120 --> 02:46:41.479
that's like auction food. Yeah,
yeah, that's a different thing. This

2553
02:46:41.559 --> 02:46:46.760
is this is this sounds like beyond
imagining what they should have just used a

2554
02:46:46.799 --> 02:46:50.559
cow. I think that's a little
too on the nose. But it was

2555
02:46:50.600 --> 02:46:54.879
a pig slaughterhouse. Gross what all
right? Gotta die right? This emails

2556
02:46:54.879 --> 02:46:56.840
for you. This is that is
to get you back up pumped again.

2557
02:46:58.319 --> 02:47:01.280
Ranny about work. How excited you
were about emails a while ago. Yeah,

2558
02:47:01.360 --> 02:47:05.200
emails, you were really excited.
When was that like when we started.

2559
02:47:05.840 --> 02:47:09.120
This is from Chris. He's the
guy who wrote in when I was

2560
02:47:09.159 --> 02:47:11.760
like, oh, my shoulder hurt, and then was like, oh,

2561
02:47:11.799 --> 02:47:16.319
you probably have the you know,
everybody's shoulder hurts after the thing out,

2562
02:47:16.440 --> 02:47:18.159
and so he wrote in and was
like, uh. I was like,

2563
02:47:18.159 --> 02:47:22.120
oh, yeah, whatever. That
sounds way more serious than when I had

2564
02:47:22.159 --> 02:47:24.559
said my bad anyway, and he
writes in, remember he was a doctor

2565
02:47:24.600 --> 02:47:28.239
at I think he was actually a
doctor out of Walgreen's right. He says,

2566
02:47:30.879 --> 02:47:33.079
ladies and gentlemen, years ago,
I had a girl come into the

2567
02:47:33.079 --> 02:47:37.639
pharmacy one day that had some problems
down there. I don't want to hear

2568
02:47:37.680 --> 02:47:43.040
this. I forget what was at
STD or yees, and then flashed me

2569
02:47:43.159 --> 02:47:46.440
her junk, wanting me to figure
out what was going on. Man.

2570
02:47:46.520 --> 02:47:50.319
The state of healthcare in this situation
this country is no laughing matter. Say,

2571
02:47:50.319 --> 02:47:54.559
it was totally dumbstruck. Since then, I've actually had a couple of

2572
02:47:54.600 --> 02:47:58.479
close calls, but since her,
I had been a little quicker to hold

2573
02:47:58.479 --> 02:48:05.319
the phone before they go for their
pant. Wow. So now it's not

2574
02:48:05.319 --> 02:48:09.000
all bad story? Was she was
she wearing flip flops? If she wasn't

2575
02:48:09.040 --> 02:48:13.000
at the tube? Is? Now? Hey, So have any of you

2576
02:48:13.040 --> 02:48:18.879
ever seen anybody naked in a work
environment? Define naked, unexpected nudity in

2577
02:48:18.920 --> 02:48:22.360
a work plus okay, so unexpected
no on camera? I did it a

2578
02:48:22.399 --> 02:48:28.200
couple time that you ever got paid
for that? But again, unexpected being

2579
02:48:28.200 --> 02:48:31.959
in the keyword here. Okay,
So like, have you seen below the

2580
02:48:31.959 --> 02:48:35.239
waste nudity in a work site?
We were doing those Games of the Year

2581
02:48:35.319 --> 02:48:41.319
videos. There were some tight pants. I did warn everybody. Uh no,

2582
02:48:41.360 --> 02:48:43.680
I had somebody walking on in the
bathroom. I forgot the lock ones.

2583
02:48:43.120 --> 02:48:48.479
Yeah it doesn't count. Okay,
that's bathroom bathrooms I'm talking about.

2584
02:48:48.639 --> 02:48:52.159
Yeah, it seems like all these
people have either nudity or drug use or

2585
02:48:52.239 --> 02:48:56.440
babies. This is not an office
environment. This is like you're dealing with

2586
02:48:56.479 --> 02:48:58.799
the public. Most of these people
are going into somebody's who. I'm just

2587
02:48:58.840 --> 02:49:01.879
saying, have we all chose and
like statistically based on the number of emails

2588
02:49:01.879 --> 02:49:05.280
you've received and the number of people
in this room, but I would assume

2589
02:49:05.680 --> 02:49:07.399
that one of us would have at
some point had a shitty job that involved

2590
02:49:07.479 --> 02:49:11.360
us to see somebody's junk. Oh
you're saying ever, I think, oh,

2591
02:49:11.479 --> 02:49:16.319
not right here. You guys normally
keep your pants on. I walked

2592
02:49:16.360 --> 02:49:18.399
in on one of our interns because
he didn't lock the door at the bath

2593
02:49:18.479 --> 02:49:22.799
room. Was he wanking or anything? Or was it just like nobody was?

2594
02:49:22.280 --> 02:49:28.559
He was? And it was pretty
funny because it was just one of

2595
02:49:28.600 --> 02:49:33.440
those like, oh, never the
same, Never look at that man the

2596
02:49:33.520 --> 02:49:37.639
same. At one time, I
poured beer and bars in college, and

2597
02:49:37.040 --> 02:49:41.440
I one time had to stop people
from having sex in the back dark booth.

2598
02:49:41.959 --> 02:49:43.479
Wow in the booth. Yeah,
you're gonna say in a bathroom,

2599
02:49:43.719 --> 02:49:48.559
that's crazy in a booth man?
Yeah, were you polite? I I

2600
02:49:48.879 --> 02:49:52.239
walked up. We had a baseball
bat behind the bar, so I carried

2601
02:49:52.239 --> 02:49:54.719
it over there just in case there
were any problems. Really, you had

2602
02:49:54.719 --> 02:50:01.719
the bat like you were just just
shoulder like, did you roll up your

2603
02:50:01.719 --> 02:50:05.399
sleeves and put that little bartenders the
roll with the bat? You don't hold

2604
02:50:05.440 --> 02:50:11.159
the come out to play. No, you called it low because you don't.

2605
02:50:11.239 --> 02:50:13.920
You don't want to be the You
want to finish the fight, not

2606
02:50:15.079 --> 02:50:18.040
start it, So you don't.
When I when I started bartending that I

2607
02:50:18.079 --> 02:50:22.959
got the lesson in effective bat use, and it's that you you bring it

2608
02:50:22.040 --> 02:50:26.920
up, you let them instigate in
a confrontation, and then you you don't

2609
02:50:26.959 --> 02:50:31.479
threaten with the bat Initially you respond
to a threat with the bat, so

2610
02:50:31.600 --> 02:50:35.639
you're holding it low, holding you
hold it out your side. And then

2611
02:50:35.840 --> 02:50:39.200
yeah, and then and then but
it didn't come into play because they the

2612
02:50:39.280 --> 02:50:41.520
girl was ran off. They was
like dicks out and I was like,

2613
02:50:41.559 --> 02:50:46.799
in the middle of the leave there
was penetration, okay, man, yeah,

2614
02:50:46.840 --> 02:50:50.159
and and and theres no excuse me, like like what did they say?

2615
02:50:50.319 --> 02:50:54.920
Like the bar and we're fucking ship
faced and thought it was a good

2616
02:50:54.959 --> 02:50:58.879
idea. Oh I thought it was
on my couch. What the conjugal visited

2617
02:51:00.120 --> 02:51:05.440
a prison? It was a really
bad bar just there there no social graces

2618
02:51:05.479 --> 02:51:07.200
that apply to that situation. No, you can't be like hey, I

2619
02:51:07.520 --> 02:51:13.239
can't help, but knows you have
your dick and your girlfriend this lady.

2620
02:51:11.799 --> 02:51:16.719
I think that was it a crowded
barrow? Is it like empty? It

2621
02:51:16.760 --> 02:51:18.760
was like it was like the late
night. It was like the after after

2622
02:51:18.799 --> 02:51:26.719
closing, but not liquor bar u
probably alternative like early alternative. Maybe maybe

2623
02:51:26.840 --> 02:51:30.559
remember in Blues Tant Traveler was still
alternative before this was like a scene from

2624
02:51:30.639 --> 02:51:35.520
singles. Maybe I was gonna guess
like Country and Western, Oh they're having

2625
02:51:35.520 --> 02:51:39.079
sex the Blues Traveler, they probably
weren't having a whole thing just got ruined

2626
02:51:39.079 --> 02:51:43.159
from me. It was probably was
really up there with it, probably like

2627
02:51:43.200 --> 02:51:50.079
ween or maybe stone templed pilots.
Yeah, really well, if we will

2628
02:51:50.120 --> 02:51:52.479
could see some ween. For sure, there was a lot of ween.

2629
02:51:54.959 --> 02:51:58.959
Last question here, this goes out
to everybody. This comes in from Gavin

2630
02:52:00.600 --> 02:52:03.879
and he says a question to y'all, you ever wake up in the morning

2631
02:52:03.879 --> 02:52:11.440
and say I really don't feel like
talking to a microphone today, and what

2632
02:52:11.479 --> 02:52:16.639
do you do to overcome these woes? Brad, I can't say that's really

2633
02:52:16.639 --> 02:52:20.760
ever occurred to me. Believe a
choice. I really don't. Well,

2634
02:52:22.159 --> 02:52:26.639
he's asking where do you find your
motivation? Where do you pull it from?

2635
02:52:26.719 --> 02:52:30.200
There's ill. Yeah, there are
definitely some days when I come in

2636
02:52:30.360 --> 02:52:33.840
I got headache. I got a
headache. I don't I'm not feeling I'm

2637
02:52:33.920 --> 02:52:39.159
tired. Mon I'm gonna see you
guys, and it's all smiles and I'm

2638
02:52:39.159 --> 02:52:43.079
like, I got the greatest job
in the world. Dave Snyder is gonna

2639
02:52:43.120 --> 02:52:46.120
be here, Will Smith is gonna
be here. Wouldn't miss it for the

2640
02:52:46.159 --> 02:52:50.280
world. I'll tell you that.
Recently, I've had the surprise Mike's,

2641
02:52:50.280 --> 02:52:56.159
which have always been interesting because yeah, yeah, surprise Mike, Mike Jordan

2642
02:52:56.239 --> 02:53:00.159
shows up. Okay, no,
because like Jeff is full time on,

2643
02:53:00.479 --> 02:53:03.000
so it's like, all Will get
picked up from my house, walk out

2644
02:53:03.040 --> 02:53:07.799
my door, and then in his
car and it's like, yeah, Mike's

2645
02:53:07.840 --> 02:53:11.360
rounding. You're basically driving around an
ed TV. Yeah, Jeff TV.

2646
02:53:11.639 --> 02:53:18.040
Yeah, it's weird live streamed uh
A and w Hey what did you have

2647
02:53:18.079 --> 02:53:26.719
with W? I had a bacon
bacon cheeseburger with the barbecue sauce and chili

2648
02:53:26.799 --> 02:53:28.719
cheese fry. They call that a
Western Yeah, something like that. And

2649
02:53:28.760 --> 02:53:31.680
then uh, you know the room
paper float. Okay, it was great.

2650
02:53:33.000 --> 02:53:35.559
It was superb Do you have time
to get home before you know?

2651
02:53:35.680 --> 02:53:37.760
It was fun? It was good. I thought it was good. Okay,

2652
02:53:37.920 --> 02:53:41.959
I would I would recommend it.
I would go there again. Okay

2653
02:53:41.280 --> 02:53:46.959
A plus plus Yeah, great buyer, so kind of needs more sellers like

2654
02:53:46.959 --> 02:53:50.319
this. Do you have any uh? I think I don't feel like you

2655
02:53:50.319 --> 02:53:54.440
just need to find it. Today
I was feeling kind of sick, yeah,

2656
02:53:54.000 --> 02:53:58.159
and real tired. But I think
once you walk through the door,

2657
02:53:58.200 --> 02:54:01.959
you kind of you're just like all
right doing this, Like adrenaline gets up

2658
02:54:01.959 --> 02:54:07.799
and you just power through. Yeah. I think there is definitely something to

2659
02:54:07.959 --> 02:54:11.959
doing it often where it does you
know, you're just like, okay,

2660
02:54:13.559 --> 02:54:15.920
we can do this, Like even
if I'm not feeling one hundred percent,

2661
02:54:15.959 --> 02:54:18.959
I'll you know, try my best
and we'll go for it. Yeah.

2662
02:54:18.000 --> 02:54:22.440
There are totally times when I'm tired. This is my third podcast today.

2663
02:54:22.520 --> 02:54:26.680
There you go, just do it. We did two Adam podcast this afternoon.

2664
02:54:26.479 --> 02:54:30.440
Does that count this too? Or
is that one podcast? Two different

2665
02:54:30.479 --> 02:54:33.600
topics? How many is this?
What is it? Is it really eight

2666
02:54:33.680 --> 02:54:43.360
fifty? This is into five hours? Yeah we should we should? Yeah,

2667
02:54:43.719 --> 02:54:46.600
sorry, no, continue with your
story, but stress it out of

2668
02:54:46.639 --> 02:54:48.360
it. I'm done now, slow, it's good. Yeah, that's gonna

2669
02:54:48.399 --> 02:54:52.280
do it. We we started a
little late. We started speaking of not

2670
02:54:52.399 --> 02:54:54.559
wanting sometimes not feeling up. We're
talking into a microphone. Before we came

2671
02:54:54.559 --> 02:54:58.000
here, we had an hour and
a half meeting, a minute long meeting.

2672
02:55:00.159 --> 02:55:03.360
Those in all hands and honestly,
those are the Those are the things

2673
02:55:03.440 --> 02:55:05.760
that make it. Like those hour
and a half long meetings are the things

2674
02:55:05.760 --> 02:55:09.600
that like I get up and I'm
like, oh god, it's that day.

2675
02:55:09.760 --> 02:55:11.280
It's the call day. I've got
two hours of phone calls. I

2676
02:55:11.280 --> 02:55:16.319
would much rather be sitting with dudes
recording video game stuff then sitting here and

2677
02:55:16.440 --> 02:55:20.600
talkie talks. But thank you guys
so much for coming by. Uh Will

2678
02:55:20.639 --> 02:55:26.559
and Dave, Dave, you've got
here now a regular on the commute stream

2679
02:55:26.680 --> 02:55:30.360
so folks can catch you over there. I'm a professional podcast. Yes,

2680
02:55:30.520 --> 02:55:35.680
and you've got Monday through Wednesdays a
right look for you. Yeah, check

2681
02:55:35.799 --> 02:55:41.280
us out at the chef scar and
you're working on product and you've got your

2682
02:55:41.319 --> 02:55:45.520
whole thing going on. Yes,
and then Will Hi, I'll let you

2683
02:55:45.559 --> 02:55:48.479
pitch some some of your stuff while
you're here. We have a site that's

2684
02:55:48.479 --> 02:55:54.079
like set called tested dot Com.
It's a little we uh we we do.

2685
02:55:54.079 --> 02:55:58.840
We cover people who make cool things
and any science stuff. But oh

2686
02:56:00.360 --> 02:56:03.559
channel too, like that guy,
like that MythBusters guy. We we have

2687
02:56:03.639 --> 02:56:07.280
Adam Savage and Jamie Hyneman from the
MythBusters on our on our site so nicely

2688
02:56:07.319 --> 02:56:13.280
regularly and uh yeah, I mean, we make five videos a week about

2689
02:56:13.440 --> 02:56:18.600
people who do cool things. And
we talked about products, and we today

2690
02:56:18.639 --> 02:56:24.159
we recorded a podcast about where we
talked about True Detective, the new HBO

2691
02:56:24.479 --> 02:56:28.079
TV show. Was there no episode
last night because of the fucking super Bowl?

2692
02:56:28.319 --> 02:56:31.399
But I mean HBO is not involved
in that because it's just was on

2693
02:56:31.520 --> 02:56:35.760
The New Girl after the super Bowl. They just assuming nobody was watched Prince

2694
02:56:35.799 --> 02:56:39.520
on The New Girl. Like Prince
Prince, I had never heard his voice

2695
02:56:39.559 --> 02:56:43.399
before, and it's not the same. It's it's very sexy. Blows my

2696
02:56:43.440 --> 02:56:48.200
mind. Yeah, he had like
a he's saying more he's my Saints row.

2697
02:56:50.200 --> 02:56:52.840
He had like a like a legitimate
speaking part. It wasn't just like

2698
02:56:52.879 --> 02:56:54.360
oh he's over there on a stage
playing he was. He was a spirit

2699
02:56:54.440 --> 02:57:00.280
selling Jesus. Like no, no, yeah, I mean they're going to

2700
02:57:00.319 --> 02:57:03.280
compete with Prince. You're not going
to change the channel for that. So

2701
02:57:03.319 --> 02:57:07.440
we talked about two Detective and then
we talked about animated moments. So we

2702
02:57:07.479 --> 02:57:09.600
talk about stuff that we think is
neat that's tested. That's basically what test

2703
02:57:09.639 --> 02:57:13.840
it is. And where when when
is your podcast? Man? We have

2704
02:57:13.920 --> 02:57:16.680
one on Tuesday and one on Thursday, so ours will be up the same

2705
02:57:16.680 --> 02:57:18.280
time this one is. It's still
entitled The Adams Havoc Project. It's a

2706
02:57:18.319 --> 02:57:22.520
Q and A episode tomorrow. We
take it's like the last hour of this

2707
02:57:22.559 --> 02:57:26.840
podcast where we took questions, but
without all the filthy stories. So you

2708
02:57:26.879 --> 02:57:28.200
know, you just bring it,
you just bring it for this show.

2709
02:57:28.479 --> 02:57:31.959
Yeah, yeah, well he brought
the filth whatever. You just need to

2710
02:57:33.000 --> 02:57:37.840
stop writing in Dear giant bomb Cast. I never thought this would happen to

2711
02:57:37.840 --> 02:57:43.399
mean carpets. Thanks Drew, Thanks
brand, thanks for another bomb cast,

2712
02:57:43.479 --> 02:57:46.239
and thanks we have we have to
plug demon Souls. That's right. We

2713
02:57:46.920 --> 02:57:54.639
Brad has agreed to do demon Souls
tomorrow. Really from like I don't know,

2714
02:57:54.719 --> 02:57:58.360
like one o'clock until five thirty whenever, six five thirty in the morning.

2715
02:57:58.440 --> 02:58:01.319
That's a heck of a lot of
demon souls and I can't wait to

2716
02:58:01.319 --> 02:58:07.399
see you after our time. I
might bring myself a little snack or something,

2717
02:58:07.440 --> 02:58:09.600
because we would do well to build
a breaking I have seen you had

2718
02:58:09.680 --> 02:58:13.120
two hours of Demon Souls and you're
usually ready to go. Are you just

2719
02:58:13.120 --> 02:58:16.600
gonna grind? Just go out and
grind those skeletons. At the start of

2720
02:58:16.600 --> 02:58:18.680
the fourth World over and over again. We'll see where it is and we'll

2721
02:58:18.719 --> 02:58:22.680
have professional prizes at the end of
the week. Maybe a little more stuff

2722
02:58:22.760 --> 02:58:31.000
coming up. Thanks you all for
listening, and that's a bomb cast. Emails