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Welcome to Fantasy Hockey Life, presented
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Capital talk. I'm Jesse Severe of
fan Tracks joining me. It is Victor

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Nuno of Dabber Prospects. Victor,
how you doing. I'm doing great,

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Jesse. It's always a special episode
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this time it is your turn, the

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Washington Capitals. And yeah, there's
definitely a lot of interesting story lands here,

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so I can't wait to dig into
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know how are you doing. I'm
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I'm happy to talk a little bit
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am ready to talk lots of things. Victor. We've got to tell people

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do all those things, Victor.
I want nothing more than to talk a

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little Washington Capital, So why don't
we go do that, dispensed with the

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formalities and talk cats ready event,
please to welcome back to the program,

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Sammy Silver of the Hockey News,
ready to talk a little Washington Capitals,

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Sammy rocking the Red. You're not
actually rocking the Red, but collectively we

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will rock the Red as the talking
Washington Capitals. How are you doing today?

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I'm doing great. My my demon
dog catching up my couch. So

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we're doing good. We're doing great. So she might she might appear at

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some point, but we're doing good. How are you guys doing doing great?

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We're loving life, We're loving going
through all the teams. So these

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Capitals, it was a year out
of the playoffs, and I know people

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say, or I know people who
say that ted Leonsis will never tank,

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never rebuild. In this year they
did, the Capitals did. It's very

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clear that with the injuries and performance, they saw the writer and on the

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wall, they saw that selling was
the rational thing to do, and they

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made their choices with the guys who
weren't coming back as free agents, and

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that meant a lot of guys aren't
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where we talking about next year's guys, Marcus Johansson, Garnett, Hath the

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Way, Dmitriorla Larzeller, Eric Gustafsson, and when all of that left and

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all the dust settled, they had
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picks, and Erasmus Sandane. We'll
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Hard to sight season long stats for
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a completely different team by the end. They buried themselves in the standings early.

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Then they had a sizzling eleven one
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of twenty twenty two. Then they
sputtered into the break, then a fire

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sale, and then we were watching
the lottery odds climb. It seemed every

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day, how much should we expect
this year to end up? Sammy is

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really seeing the acceleration of that aging
slope downward and how much of this is

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a soft reset to get Washington back
in the playoffs perhaps next year. I

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think it was a strange year,
right. It was strange because you had

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the injuries at the start of the
year. You're missing Nicholas Baxstrom, You're

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missing Tom Wilson, you know,
for that first half, and those are

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two key guys. And you see
this team make a lot of changes for

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this year coming in, you bring
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bring in Connor Brown. Obviously,
he goes down three and a half games,

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and he's a big part of your
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but on your palty kill, all
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it was, this team just couldn't
find consistency. And then you have a

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Vetchkin who still scores forty goals and
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misses a lot of time himself,
which oddity, you know. So I

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think that this team, though,
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interesting case because I don't Leons this. It's been said multiple times that Leons

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doesn't want to rebuild. Well,
Ovius still here chasing Golds record, you

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know, And I think that this
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blow everything up, until he hangs
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And I think he won't play until
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him just hanging them up without doing
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that we're getting into a point this
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there's going to be change. Is
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of craziness? I don't think so. I think the priorities. We're finding

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a new head coach, we're remping
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faster, and they're gonna turn to
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their chance. So I think right
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We'll see how it goes next year. I don't expect things to really blow

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up until the ov era officially ends
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closed, and they faced a lot
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for sure. That makes perfect sense
to me. Like you said, let's

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start with the captain. Victor and
I we're fantasy players. Is the best

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he is at the top of the
charts pretty much, especially the way he

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scores his goals, he takes his
shots, he gets his hits. Still

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a top twenty player for that and
it was pacing for top ten. But

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like you said, there was a
lot of time missed and that is not

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normal for OVI. Only seventy three
games this year. But some of that

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had to do with things like the
tragedy of losing his father. There was

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a little bit of late season injury
stuff. I'm not sure how how much

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he might have played through if the
Caps were continuing for a playoff spot or

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trying to contend for a playoff spot
at that point. Do you think that

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there was anything about this season that
makes you think he's going to hang around?

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I agree to keep chasing that Gretzky
record, but is he going to

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have a season next year more like
that ninety point one twenty two season or

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more like his seventy five point season? This are we starting to see a

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little bit of the slowdown from the
big guy. I forget who was last

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year. It might have been Daniel
Strong. Somebody one of them told me

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he never bet against the big man, and I agree with them. You

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look at a guy like Ovie and
the way he takes care of himself,

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the way he conditions you see him
up close, and just how strong he

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is, how big he is,
how much passion he still has, and

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you know how hard he still plays
the game, and no matter what,

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at this point, it doesn't matter
if you know what's coming, He's still

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going to find a way to find
the back of the net when he shows

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a time and time again, and
saying that, you look at five point

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season, but you also look at
the numbers as a whole. And you

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see a guy who, despite losing
his father, despite playing through some gnarly

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stuff, he puts up forty two
goals and breaks the all time record for

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the most forty goal seasons. That's
a guy. You see him go out

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every single time. He loves to
score goals. He loves one of his

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teammates score goals. He just loves
the game. So I think with Ovi,

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I think hopefully next year, carring
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things in his personal life. I
hope nothing but the best. He's a

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great guy. By carring any injuries, I don't see him him slowing down.

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There's no signs of it. There
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Even like Wayne was sitting three away
from eight Hunter, he goes out

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and scores a hat trick in that
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It's just it's it's amazing to watch
him every night, It really is.

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So I think we see another strong
goal scoring season. I think that the

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total points will depend on how many
games he plays. But I don't see

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him slowing down goal scoring department.
He'll find a way of score goals in

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any way. Though I believe it
was once Alexelvetchkin, who said I liked

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to score. I liked a goal. So you know the philosopher Alexilvetkin.

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Well, you set me up for
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man who said that quote was really
one of the bright spots of a rush

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rough year. Really flourished on this
team, Victor and I did not quite

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see coming the heights that he reached
this year. As a top one hundred

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type producer for Fantasy helps to have
your most frequent linemate be Alexelvetchkin. I

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guess that's the first thing. He
topped his prior career high of fifty seven

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points by having twenty three goals forty
two assists for sixty five points this year's

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second on the team and less than
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game. But again, your job
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him to shoot it. Oddly,
Strom played less than seventeen minutes a game,

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but still had the second most power
play time on ice minutes on the

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team as well, and a lot
of his scoring came at the end of

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the season. And I talked about
that slide they had at the end,

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twenty five points in twenty games,
in that March April duldrum that they suffered

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through. He was rewarded. Maybe
maybe it was would be the new contract

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he got mid season, a nice
five year contract five million per in February,

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making his future term actually the longest
reaching on the roster. So Dylanstrome

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was this improvement? For real?
Is this a guy who's going to be

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this Dylanstrom Or as this roster settles
out and new guys come in, is

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he going to slip down to a
lesser role in the future, Sammy,

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I think that Dylanstrom is definitely a
part of the future. For can you

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look at a guy who he's got
quite the road so far? It goes

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start overall. I goes to Arizona, cannot really find footing in Arizona,

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and Arizona's Arizona. And then you
go to Chicago and Chicago has its flaws,

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but he also can't really find his
solidified spot there. And then he

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comes to Washington one year see it
and he blows it out of the water.

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When playing with Ovie helps while you
look at his play, he's showing

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off the hands, the speed,
you know, everything that he brings to

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table, the playmaking the hockey IQ. It's all there. There's a reason

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that he was the number one center, and you look at the future,

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it doesn't look like a lot of
those centers might be around for much.

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Along me a Backstrom and there's questions
surrounding Backy, and we have kuznets Off,

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who it peers. Both sides aren't
really headed in a positive direction right

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now. And that's two top six
guys right there who've made up your core

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for a very long time. But
you see a guy like Stromer and he

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comes in and his voice carries in
the room, and body loves him,

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and there's a team too. He
was telling me that he really feels at

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home. It's been a road where
he was in Arizona and then moved to

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Chicago and was looking to really push
and be like I am home. This

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is where I fit. And he's
at the perfect age and in the perfect

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time where he's hanging his prime and
he feels at home. And confidence carries

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Confidence carries you, and it pushes
you to Even when I play, if

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you're playing with confidence, you feel
like a different person. And he's feeling

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it right now and saying he showed
at the end of the season, though,

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is that consistency. When he was
like, Oh, I'm not gonna

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just put up a bunch of points
and then stop. He keeps going and

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he can do it all. He
can play several roles, he can win

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face offs, and you know,
he can make things happen. So I

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think that five year deal was McClellan
saying this guy was going to be a

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voice in our room and a corps
member and a part of our future.

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He was a high pick for a
reason. I think finally he's able to

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show it, and I think Washington
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Yeah, great to have a guy
like him in his prime, as

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you said, because nets you mentioned
it, it looks like you said he

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could be on the way out.
He asked for a trade, that asked

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that eventually got out. At least, as I understand the rumor mill,

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his year was below his normal standard
points per sixty, dropping to its lowest

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rate since his sophomore year of twenty
fourteen twenty fifteen. The talk this offseason

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on Kouzi has really moved to whether
he's even going to remain what happened with

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kuznets off this year, Sammy,
and is he going to be back into

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Capitol's uniform next year. Yeah,
Kouzi is an interesting case. I think

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there were stretches where he played really
good and he was really feeling like he

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was in his element, and then
there were just times where you know,

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whatever, you know, inconsistency,
effort, it just wasn't there, and

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he just you look at the shooting
percentage, it was at an all time

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low. Like you said, the
points per game just dropped and there wasn't

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consistency that they needed from a top
six guy, and McCollum said he was

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disappointed. And with regard to the
trade talk, talking to kuzets Off about

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what leaked, he mentioned he's oh, I asked them where those reports came

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from. And I don't think players
are ever gonna outwardly come out and say

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to the media, I want out, you know what I mean. I

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don't know if that's a thing,
but like it he I don't know.

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I think with kuzets Off, both
sides aren't really headed on positive track right

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now. I think there's frustration probably
for Kustzof, and there's frustration probably for

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mccollin for washing him for the front
office because is this gonna this happened?

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In twenty twenty one two where he
couldn't really put up a consistent effort night

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and night. Ali ran to some
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you have a bounce back yere last
year, and then he can't keep it

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going. And this team means right
now and effort where they can keep it

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going. So looking at the situation
right now and just where things stand in

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the reason Fedtov comments came out from
a friend of his who mentioned that he's

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disengaged, disinterested in Washington. I
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and I think it might be saying
that Washington needs because there needs to

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be some kind of change if there's
that desire to revamp the top six,

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bringing in a top sixth center who
would really do half of the job there

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for you. But yeah, I'm
very talented player, very skilled player,

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and you see what I can do
with his shootout moves and his hands and

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his speed and zone. He just
for one reason or another just couldn't keep

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it going on night to night basis. And you could tell he was frustrated

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as well with the results, and
he said he was confident he could bounce

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back next year. I just don't
know if management wants to either believe it

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until they see it, or if
they want to revamp and just say okay,

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we're done, let's turn the page
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the year they won the Stanley Cup, you can't not give the Consummite the

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Obie. But because Netsalf was the
best player in that playoff run, to

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me that year guy you never have
to worry about in terms of effort.

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Well Tom Wilson, Willie He of
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was the ACL injury that took away
the first half of the season, and

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one of the questions I know we
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survive until he and some other guys
that will talk about returned. They got

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him back January eighth. He played
a few games, then he took a

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puck off the other leg, missed
a few more games, but finally made

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it back in played it out after
the fire sale. Primarily for that final

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run, mostly played next to Alexovetkin, and he scored twenty two points,

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including thirteen goals in those last thirty
three games. He also he made three

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hits a game, two and a
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He made up for lost time In
terms of pimps. He wrecked up

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pimps at his highest rate since twenty
sixteen seventeen. So it's not like he

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was shying away from contact after he
came back from these injuries. So Tom

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Wilson, to me, is a
guy who, when he's fully recovered from

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his injuries, is going to be
back playing at that level, maybe even

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a different level offensively. I don't
know what do you see for Tom Wilson

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next year. We're gonna see that
continued sort of mid career trajectory where he's

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become a pretty effective scorer and offensive
in addition to being that physical presence on

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this team. Sammy, I think
so, I think, like you said,

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you never have to worry about Willie's
effort. He's a guy who bleeds

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red, white and blue. He
loves that team, and you can see

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it every time I see him.
He stares at the rink like it's his

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first time there, you know what
I mean. So you have a guy

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who's that passionate, who his voice
carries, He sticks up for his teammates.

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He isn't going to shy away from
playing the physical style he's known for.

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That's not Tom Wilson to step back, you know. But he from

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a disciplinary standpoint, he's played a
strong, heavy, clean game when hasn't

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ran into the suspension stuff he used
to. And he's really coming to his

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own I think we talked about Stromer
hanging his prime. We're seeing Tom Wilson

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really embody that. I'm a higher
tier for former pick in the draft,

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and there's a reason I went that
high. And he's just he plays his

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heart out every night. And I
think you see, like you said,

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playing on Alexovetkin's line helps, but
he also had great chemistry. Wames with

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facts from in Milano, the BMW
line I liked to call it. I

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don't know if it caught on.
I always try to make things catch on

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them they don't. But yeah,
no, he and he plays a game

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where he has that speed and I
has that vision and where he's okay,

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I can play physical, but I
can wheel around guys too. I can

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really shoot the puck. I can
make smart passes, I can be crafty,

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and you're seeing him become an all
around player. And I honestly believe

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when the ovar ends, he's the
guy who gets the sea. There's a

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reason why so I think he keeps
it going and there's no reason why not.

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He The ACL injury, I think
really showed just how important he was.

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He missed a lot of production because
you look at that second half and

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it was a heck of the second
half. So I think him coming back

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fully healthy, fully able to train
in the off season, you're only going

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to see him get better and better. I expect big things from Wilson.

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All right, next guy we're going
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We had a preseason rank. I
had him in the one seventies and Jesse

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eighty. Of course he missed time, but he actually ended up right around

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one seventies. That was accurate.
I didn't hear him last year Jesse said

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tier three. We have him at
teeth tier three this year. Mentioned the

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injuries, so he missed a couple. He was out several times with what

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sounds like his back. He had
a radio frequency ablation, which I do

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know a bit about that procedure,
but it shouldn't your take. When O'shee

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was in he had fifty eight games
played forty forty nine point pace. The

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other thing is that his ice time
has really been trending down for the last

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several years. But when he's out
there, of course fantasy gms want to

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know and are interested still because he
gets that power play time on ice with

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Ovie and Carlson and all the heavy
hitters there. It makes sense. But

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that's really the time that he's out
there, because his even strength contributions have

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been pretty poor and his defensive metrics
are not great. Dom does does the

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market value in his five point a
million dollar contract, which they have for

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another year after this upcoming line,
so two years he has a negative one

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point nine surplus there because of his
overall impact. But if he can still

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put up powerplay points and get back
to his scoring ways, and we're going

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to be interested. So that's really
what we need to know. What do

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you know about his back conditions?
I know that didn't really make sense for

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him to keep going. It sounds
like maybe he could have, but they

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just shut him down. And this
procedure that he hadn't doesn't really sound to

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me like it's all that concerning.
But is he going to be back and

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ready for next season? And can
we expect him to maybe get over a

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fifty point pace? Yeah, it's
rough. Couple of years for os which

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you look at him and such a
big part of their locker room, the

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motor of their room. A high
energy guy who when you talk to him,

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he like never stops moving. He's
like always doing something, always energetic,

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always enthusiastic, and that's the kind
of guy you need. The back

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procedure isn't wasn't that serious. It
took I think he told me like five

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to ten minutes. His son was
with him. He was playing trucks while

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oh she was getting the procedure and
he was in out painful. I don't

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think double blish. It is something
that is very pleasant but helped all I

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said. I felt light years better
after I got it, and for the

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first time, I think, oh, the first time in a long time.

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It's going to be full normal summer
of training, full summer of focusing

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on areas that he wants to and
like you said, when he's in,

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he was thought. He racked up
quite a few goals for a guy who

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spent a lot of time in the
lineup, and there's a clear oh she

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effect or where the team kneel in. He provides so much on the ice,

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but off the ice, he having
that energy and that person in the

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room is contagious, and it excites
your roster, it jolts your bench.

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So I think with this procedure,
I'm not really there's not really concerns about

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anything bigger happening. He said.
He felt light years better. It didn't

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really sound like anything else is coming
through the pipeline. The back was the

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biggest issue that shut him down at
the end, because these there are three

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more games. You have a guy
whose back is clearly hurting him. Why

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are you going to put him out
there if there's no playoffs to put one?

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Obviously, you want to play for
pride, you want to play games.

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You're in the NHL, but you're
not going to put a key player

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out there who's hurting for three games
aren't going to make a difference in the

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standings department. I think we see
a good year from Motion. I think

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he comes to training camp, ray
to rock and hopefully that one procedure keeps

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him feeling light years better. I'm
not a doctor. I wish I was.

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That'd be cool, but I'm not
sure if it's a precursor to anything.

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If it wears off, maybe things
get worse. I don't know,

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he said. He was sealing there. He sounded really positive and excited about

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it, and I think he comes
to training camp and we go from there.

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But he's another guy I haven't seen
injuries. Yeah, but even the

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playoffs last year, he was fighting
through a lot of stuff and was leaning

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the team with a huge postseason stat
wise. I think you still see big

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things out of Oshe. It's just
a matter of staying healthy at this point.

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Awesome, Yeah, thanks for I
was gonna offer my insights because I

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am a physician and a neuromuscia skeletal
specialist, So I'll just mention a little

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bit about this procedure because when you're
talking about back issues, it can be

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scary, right, There are a
lot of issues that can happen people didn't

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have chronic problems. That tends to
be the case if there's major structural issues,

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disc problems, if there's herniations,
if there's instability ligmentous issues. What

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it sounds based on what o'she had, is that there's a part where the

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two parts of the spine come together
they called the facette joints, and the

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facette points. That's where it moves. That's like the pivot point. And

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so when things get inflamed or irritated. It's really uncomfortable anytime you move.

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And so what this procedure is you
can go in there with ltocaine and numb

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it up and it feels great,
and then if that helps the pain,

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they basically just go in there with
a little probe. They heat it up.

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There's a nerve that innervates that fiset
specifically, so it burns the nerve

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so to speak. It doesn't fully
burn it, it just stops it from

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being so sensory, so easy to
be excited. And that procedure can be

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repeated multiple times. So if he
was good after one, that's great.

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It is something that can be done
multiple times, or you could just inject

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latocaine. So if that's all it
is, I would be very not worried

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about his ability to be better.
If it was something where they're taking out

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part of a disk or other kind
of arthritis or other issues, that would

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be much more concerned. But read, when I read what was on the

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Road to Wire and what people were
reporting, it sounded much worse than based

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on what someone I think Udie finally
reported what the actual procedure was, and

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I was like, oh, that's
nothing if that's all it is, But

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then you don't always know if that's
all it is. There might be other

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things too, and some people get
radioblation and then don't do well with it

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and need something else. And so
that's great to hear that he really felt

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good after that, because that's really
that, like you said, should be

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fine, then it should be able
to contribute and do really well next year.

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So hopefully that was helpful. I'm
happy to do this on other players.

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But the thing is we don't usually
know. Teams and players don't tell

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us usually what players have done,
and so people always ask me, and

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I'm like, I don't know unless
I know what they had done, specifically

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what procedure. Victor, I think
you're too indurted this man. That sounds

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horrible. I know he said it's
not that bad, but that sounds horrible.

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I never want to do that to
my back. He said it felt

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like knives, was what she was
say. He got on Friday, and

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he said it took five to ten
minutes. He didn't look like a guy

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who had anything else taken out.
Yeah, I think we're good on that

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front. When you talk about painful
injuries, hips supposedly are like the worst.

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Let's talk about Nicholas Backstrom. Future
Hall of Famer. You heard me,

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Future Hall of Famer. Nicholas Backstrom
will turn thirty six early next year,

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and he finally came back from his
injuries in January. Boy twenty one

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points in thirty nine games. That's
not Backstrom numbers. Eleven of those came

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on the power play. His defense
actually came back a little bit this year

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from the advanced metrics and the power
play, but the offense was not there

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for him this year. I guess
you wonder it could be a recovery trajectory

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or this could just be maybe the
beginning of the end. I don't want

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to be too negative, but what
can Backstrom still be? Sammy a fifty

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point fifty point center to power play
specialist? Or you think there's still some

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big upside for this guy? Yeah? No. You look at a guy

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like Nick and I know I say
all the question stuff. I'm like,

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you see how much they care about
hockey. There's some of the most passionate

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guys you'll ever meet, and Backstrom
is definitely one of them. He worked

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incredibly hard to come back from something
that not a lot of people, if

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any come back from and this one
was a doozy. That's a big procedure

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to undergo. It's a big decision. It left a lot of questions for

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management, being like, is he
even gonna skate again? But he's been

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living pain free for the first time
in a long time, and he's been

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skating without pain for the first time
in a long time. And yeah,

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you look at the numbers and his
play and maybe not as much speed as

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there once was, maybe not as
much flashiness as there once was. You

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look at the point tools still put
them on pace for around like forty four

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forty five points in a fully two
game season, So it's not they're like

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fourth line numbers. You've totally spiraled
downward. But mccollin. Backstrom was very

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optimistic when we talked. No,
he was happy to finally look forward to

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a full summer where he can do
what he instead of rehabilitating, which was

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every single year since that first surgery
in twenty fifteen, and last year you

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saw a guy who was very done
from a standpoint of like his how much

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pain he could tolerate anymore? He
could not tolerate it anymore. And now

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that's not there, and but you're
coming back mid season, You're dealing with

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line changes on the fly. You're
essentially coming in without a full training camp

407
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,319
you know you have to, and
without full offseason train You did your rehab,

408
00:28:27,079 --> 00:28:30,720
escape by yourself, escape with the
team. A couple of times,

409
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,400
you get contact and you're thrown into
a game again, and that's a lot

410
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:37,960
to come back from. If Backstrom
will be Nicholas Backstrom again, you got

411
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,319
to see how it has come training. You know, from a drive standpoint

412
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:47,720
from who he is, I expect
Backstrom to come back and bounce back and

413
00:28:47,839 --> 00:28:53,799
be the nick that everbody knows.
But mccollin wasn't completely sold on the optimism

414
00:28:53,839 --> 00:28:57,559
that Backstrom had. He was he
needs to make a decision here about his

415
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:03,920
career because he said, how much
better does it get? Because you look

416
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:07,000
at Backstrom and it's not like you
said, like, it's not the Nicholas

417
00:29:07,039 --> 00:29:11,279
backstrum from two thousand and eight,
two thousand and nine. But I think

418
00:29:11,279 --> 00:29:15,759
at this point what we look for
is how camp goes, and that I'll

419
00:29:15,759 --> 00:29:18,440
answer a lot of questions. I
think he'll still be here for the start

420
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:22,240
of camp and we'll see how that
full summer really benefits and a lot of

421
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:26,880
it too. I mean we had
the physicians standpoint here, but when you

422
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,680
also had the hip, but you
also he has to get a lot of

423
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,119
strength back in that like too.
It's not just the hip, but you

424
00:29:32,119 --> 00:29:34,799
gotta get He was very big on
getting the strength back in his left leg

425
00:29:34,839 --> 00:29:41,160
and I think if he does that, getting that muscle back in the place

426
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,279
you need it, that's going to
help your skating and improve it. Twofold,

427
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,960
you know what I mean. So
I think we see what a full

428
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:52,039
off season can do from him,
and I honestly think we'll see a better

429
00:29:52,119 --> 00:29:56,440
Nicholas Backstrum if he's able to have
that full summer of training, because he

430
00:29:56,599 --> 00:30:00,279
pushes himself to be the best that
he can be, and I think with

431
00:30:00,279 --> 00:30:07,240
a full summer he'll do that.
So well, one more group of four

432
00:30:07,279 --> 00:30:10,680
is to give you in just a
pick them between two sort of more down

433
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:14,359
ballot boards on this team. Right
now, you got Sunny Milano, you

434
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:18,000
got Anthony Manantha Milana was a very
happy surprise to me. Thirty three points

435
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:23,559
and sixty four games coming in off
the street rewarded with a respectable one point

436
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:27,480
nine million for three year contract.
Not bad for a guy who was basically

437
00:30:27,519 --> 00:30:32,440
cast off by the Anaheim Ducks,
who were like the worst team. And

438
00:30:32,559 --> 00:30:36,599
Anthony Mantha is down to the last
year of his contract. Things probably have

439
00:30:36,799 --> 00:30:40,480
not gone particularly well in his time
in Washington. I think everybody would probably

440
00:30:40,519 --> 00:30:44,440
agree. But yeah, of these
two guys, who do you think is

441
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:48,039
going to be the better impact for
Washington next year? I'm gonna go with

442
00:30:48,119 --> 00:30:53,279
the guy that I definitely know we'll
be here next year, and that's Sunny

443
00:30:53,319 --> 00:30:56,039
Milano. Like you said, it
was a good surprise. There's a reason

444
00:30:56,079 --> 00:31:00,160
they were worn in with the three
more years because he came in, he

445
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,960
saw the opportunity and he ran with
it. He plays a smart game.

446
00:31:04,119 --> 00:31:08,359
He's a very young, fast talent, and that's saying that Washington needs right

447
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:14,440
now. I think I think you
look at Manthon and there's there's a guy

448
00:31:14,559 --> 00:31:18,559
who he came in red hot when
it came over from the deadline, and

449
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:25,359
then he comes in for his first
full season DC and separated shoulder comes back,

450
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:30,160
can't really find his game after that
comes into this season, he can't

451
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:34,519
find consistency. He's getting shots and
he's getting breakaways. He just can't finish.

452
00:31:34,559 --> 00:31:37,720
There are times where he looks good
and there are times where he just

453
00:31:37,799 --> 00:31:41,920
doesn't, and then that leads to
the minutes just going down, and then

454
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:47,279
the healthy scratches, and then you
see a player whose confidence has just gone.

455
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:53,200
He's working with a mental coach though
he's really trying to set look at

456
00:31:53,279 --> 00:31:56,480
his game and be like, Okay, what's going on here? Is it

457
00:31:56,599 --> 00:32:01,720
my effort? Is it my shooting? Isn't my skating? What you know

458
00:32:01,759 --> 00:32:06,240
when you see a guy who says
that he wants to improve that, But

459
00:32:06,319 --> 00:32:12,079
you also see maybe Key and Lava
Led didn't see eye to eye on a

460
00:32:12,079 --> 00:32:14,480
lot of things. Mantha was like, I don't know if it was really

461
00:32:14,599 --> 00:32:19,119
me and Lava La. But you
also see the healthy scratches and Mantha not

462
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,519
being able to find consistency within lov
Lex systems, and you wonder, hey,

463
00:32:22,759 --> 00:32:27,480
is a coaching change going to bring
out the Anthemantha that the Caps traded

464
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:31,680
Verona for or is this a time
like with kusensof where you look at a

465
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:36,400
player who mccollin's, Okay, this
was a disappointing season. Are you gonna

466
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,079
wait for the coaching change see what
it is? Because maybe the trade value

467
00:32:39,119 --> 00:32:45,240
is not that high right now,
or there's one year left, are you

468
00:32:45,319 --> 00:32:51,839
gonna look maybe to move on and
say, okay, let's just see what

469
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,839
we can get in return and maybe
have a younger god come in. Not

470
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:58,720
that man, not that Mantha's getting
up there in years at all. It's

471
00:32:58,759 --> 00:33:02,240
just a matter of Okay, are
we gonna wait and see how he does

472
00:33:02,279 --> 00:33:07,079
with a new coach and maybe having
a new system, we'll bring out that

473
00:33:07,119 --> 00:33:12,319
player that we want, or are
we just gonna revamp because we haven't seen

474
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:17,480
a lot. He's a very It's
a strange case to me because you've only

475
00:33:17,519 --> 00:33:22,119
had one full season of Mantha.
That's been this one, and it's been

476
00:33:23,799 --> 00:33:29,119
but and you look at twenty twenty
one, twenty two, and he misses

477
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,640
so much time with that shoulder,
and when he comes in in March,

478
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:36,000
and you only get so many chances. But you look at this year and

479
00:33:36,039 --> 00:33:39,759
you're just you're not blown away.
So yeah, I think if we're looking

480
00:33:39,759 --> 00:33:44,880
at impact players for next year,
if you want a surefire, what you're

481
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:49,359
getting pick it's sunny Milano. But
we'll have to wait and see what happens

482
00:33:49,359 --> 00:33:52,279
with Mantha. I think he could
really be somebody who benefits from a coaching

483
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:55,599
change, and I think that might
just be as good for him as a

484
00:33:55,680 --> 00:34:01,799
change of scenery would. So it'll
be interesting. He'll be interesting to watches.

485
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:06,160
It's a fun team to cover,
let me tell you so. Never

486
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,639
a dull moment. A lot of
things to follow here, for sure,

487
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:12,360
and we're almost done with the forwards. Those are the main guys. I

488
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:16,639
wanted to ask a couple more small
short questions here. One of them is

489
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:22,679
on even mursh Nashenko. He was
able to recently terminate his KHL contract.

490
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:24,519
We're going to talk a lot more
detail about him in another part of the

491
00:34:24,559 --> 00:34:30,000
show, but just wondering what you
think the chances that he makes the team

492
00:34:30,039 --> 00:34:34,079
and plays with the Caps next season, or is he destined for the HL.

493
00:34:35,679 --> 00:34:38,960
I think the Caps are very thrilled
that he's coming to North America.

494
00:34:39,039 --> 00:34:44,199
Regardless of where he ends up.
You either see him up in DC helping

495
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,000
your top nine, or you see
him adapting to the game at the HL

496
00:34:47,079 --> 00:34:52,280
level with a very good Hershey team. I think, looking at the way,

497
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:57,159
looking at the way that things stand
now, I see him starring in

498
00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:00,840
Hershey just because you got to adjust
that North America. He's still, he

499
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:05,800
was great this past season, moved
up to the KHL, deservedly, fought

500
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,719
through a lot of things to come
back and be a strong presence and be

501
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:13,679
cancer and all of that. And
you want to continue to develop him and

502
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:15,920
get him to his full potential.
So I think starting him in Hershey is

503
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:20,920
the best bet. But a training
camp is also a thing where anything can

504
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,519
happen. You saw it with Hendricks
Lapierre a couple of years ago where he

505
00:35:23,599 --> 00:35:27,760
blew everybody out of the water.
You saw it with Protaz this last year

506
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:32,960
where he went from being a part
time Hershey call up to full time nhlre

507
00:35:34,039 --> 00:35:37,599
sent down a couple of times.
I'm mainly up with NHL roster and in

508
00:35:37,639 --> 00:35:40,719
the lineup because of the job he
did a training camp and taking that opportunity

509
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:45,000
further and running with it. I
see Marischenko starting in Hershey, but I

510
00:35:45,039 --> 00:35:51,239
wouldn't be surprised if he gets a
couple of games up in DC. Nice.

511
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,000
That would be fun to see.
And the other question, I know

512
00:35:54,079 --> 00:36:00,639
we talked a lot about Ovie back
from Kouzi Strom who played with Opie,

513
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:02,719
who do you think spends the most
time with him, Because that's really going

514
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:07,800
to dramatically boost their fantasy stock.
I know it's impossible to say, but

515
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,280
if you had a sense just based
on where they're all out in their careers

516
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:15,000
and the team dynamics and who works
well who plays the most time with Obie,

517
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:19,280
if we're talking one player, I
think you have stromer. That was

518
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:23,119
the best combination this year was the
one where Ovechkin was on Strom's wing.

519
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:27,960
The two just have very good chemistry. I think Strom knows exactly where to

520
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:31,119
find him, and I think they
just work very well off each other and

521
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:36,639
they mutually benefit each other. We
were talking about how Otkin makes Strom better.

522
00:36:36,679 --> 00:36:40,800
Strom also keeps and you have a
guy who's also planned on the paraplay

523
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:45,800
with him making a great one two
punch with him. You don't know where

524
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:51,559
KU's nuts is going to be.
I don't think the Ovechkin Backstrom deo is

525
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:57,119
in a place to be what it
once was. I don't really think with

526
00:36:57,159 --> 00:37:00,880
what both have been through, I
think that the Strom fit has been very

527
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:02,719
good. Not to say that back
from my own about ton chemistry, because

528
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:08,039
they do and on multiple levels.
But I think looking at who plays with

529
00:37:08,119 --> 00:37:13,039
the most, I would imagine that's
that's still in Strom and keeping Tom Wilson

530
00:37:13,119 --> 00:37:15,960
on that top line. I think
it is something you're going to see.

531
00:37:16,599 --> 00:37:22,920
All right, you just made Strom
and Wilson's fantasy stock rise, so thank

532
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:28,039
you for that. They're very well. Let's move over to the defense now.

533
00:37:28,079 --> 00:37:30,639
So they lost two of their better
defenseman at the trade deadline, or

534
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:36,519
Lav and Eric Gustafson. I know
Olav and his media availability this summer.

535
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,840
Or talked about the fact that he
wouldn't rule out coming back as a UFA,

536
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:43,760
but he's not signed right now,
so we're not going to include him.

537
00:37:44,119 --> 00:37:46,440
But we have to start, of
course, with John Carlston. Coming

538
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:51,519
into this season, I had him
ranked as the seventh, the Jesse fifth.

539
00:37:51,519 --> 00:37:53,159
He ended up eighth. Of course, we know he missed time and

540
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:57,159
he's a Tier one guy all day
as long as we're concerned. What a

541
00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:00,840
scary injury if people hadn't heard,
he was hit in the head with Brendan

542
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:05,239
Dillon slapshot. If you watched the
video, he sees it come and turns

543
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:08,920
his head, hits the side of
his head and that's a really a sensitive

544
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:13,840
area where the temporal artery is and
it's very adherent to the skull and he

545
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,960
actually had a lot of bleeding and
it was really scared. Luckily, the

546
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:22,639
trainers and everything were able to quickly
help stop that and he was able to

547
00:38:22,639 --> 00:38:25,559
get the medical attention. And I
think you can make the argument that his

548
00:38:25,639 --> 00:38:29,880
absence was one of the main reasons
the Caps missed the playoffs. They were

549
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,599
in a playoff position when he went
down in December, and they were out

550
00:38:32,599 --> 00:38:37,400
of it when he did return.
But thankfully he returned and looked great and

551
00:38:37,079 --> 00:38:40,000
doesn't seem like he's gonna have any
long lasting effects from that, because that

552
00:38:40,119 --> 00:38:44,880
was scary. When Carlson was in
the lineup, he was pretty close to

553
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:49,119
his usual self from the least offensively, the point pace was down slightly from

554
00:38:49,159 --> 00:38:52,639
the last few years, but I
think you could forgive all that with the

555
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:57,280
injury. His defensive impacts continue to
slip a little bit, but according to

556
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:00,239
Dom's model, he still has the
two point five million dollars surplus on his

557
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:04,880
eight million dollar contracts, so he's
pretty worth it. Sammy, what do

558
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,679
you think are we going to see
more slippage from Carlson in the role that

559
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:13,639
he has maybe with razum Nandine in
town or is it still Carlson's power play

560
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,400
and all the ice time he can
handle and keep him what we've thought of

561
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:20,880
him in terms of production for the
last couple of years. Yeah, you

562
00:39:21,119 --> 00:39:25,360
Hugh said it. I mean we
even talking to Ovie about what the turning

563
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:30,679
point was this season. It was
when John Carlson went down. It was

564
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:32,800
in that moment you could tell Y
was pretty shaken up. And I think

565
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,199
what happened after that is this team
was just missing such an important piece.

566
00:39:37,199 --> 00:39:40,079
And I think that kind of answers
it all. You know, this is

567
00:39:40,159 --> 00:39:44,800
John Carlson's blue line, It is
John Carlson's power play. You see a

568
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:49,239
guy like Sandy come in and he
can move the pock and he can fire

569
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:53,159
at home. He can make have
fifteen point nineteen games. And John Carlson

570
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:59,639
is still John Carlson. He's still
great offensive asset. He can still score.

571
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:01,679
You can rip it from the point, he can make those passes.

572
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:07,679
He still has great chemistry, and
it's very scary and I think that injury,

573
00:40:08,119 --> 00:40:12,039
like you said, it's a scary
one. Defensively, Yeah, there's

574
00:40:12,039 --> 00:40:16,000
some slips there, I think,
but also depends on what we might see

575
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:21,079
again. New head coach might have
a different system and things change. From

576
00:40:21,119 --> 00:40:24,000
that standpoint, you never know,
but this is still John Carlson's team.

577
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:31,280
Like you said, the injury fractured
school, severed temporal artery, a lot

578
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:36,559
of blood, three months miss.
But I think the hardest part for him

579
00:40:36,679 --> 00:40:39,480
was just so your way for so
long and you feel good, but you're

580
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:43,480
basically told no, you gotta sit. You gotta sit a little bit longer,

581
00:40:43,519 --> 00:40:45,719
you know what I mean. And
when he finally does come back,

582
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:50,000
there there's russ to shake off.
Even after that first game, he was

583
00:40:50,079 --> 00:40:52,920
like, yeah, sometimes Pops came
up and I got a little mean or

584
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:54,880
I felt a little bit of ross. But he's a guy who makes an

585
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:59,960
impact. He can still pull it
off. I don't see I don't see

586
00:41:00,119 --> 00:41:04,079
a lot of significant slippage. I
still think John Carlson. It is John

587
00:41:04,079 --> 00:41:08,400
Carlson and the injury. From an
injury standpoint, he thanks said he felt

588
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:16,000
fine for the most part. There
wasn't too much lingering pain to worry about.

589
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:19,840
Obviously, when you get hit in
the side of the head, it's

590
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,519
gonna hurt, you know, I
mean, and when you get stitched up.

591
00:41:22,559 --> 00:41:27,239
And what happened is he told me
the helmet actually went into his head.

592
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,119
The puck hit him in nine miles
per hour, and the inside the

593
00:41:30,159 --> 00:41:35,400
helmet actually cut the temporal artery and
went into his head, fracturing the skull,

594
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,920
which hurts, but luckily no long
lasting effects. He was never diagnosed

595
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:43,039
with a concussion, although he says, okay, it was a blow to

596
00:41:43,079 --> 00:41:45,519
the head, did I have a
concussion? But no, no lingering headaches,

597
00:41:45,559 --> 00:41:50,079
anything like that. So I think
from a health standpoint, from a

598
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:53,119
cognitive function standpoint, I think he's
perfectly fine. I think you can expect

599
00:41:53,159 --> 00:41:59,559
Carly to be Carly. So ho
key players, man, all right?

600
00:42:00,199 --> 00:42:06,280
Martin Martin Favari was another guy I
thought was a nice surprise. This Slava

601
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,079
native I'm going to brought Aslava in
a few weeks. Maybe I'll look him

602
00:42:08,159 --> 00:42:12,599
up. Was taken in the second
round of the twenty eighteen draft, and

603
00:42:12,639 --> 00:42:15,960
would you believe he is fifteenth and
Hockey reference point share in his career from

604
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:21,400
that draft nineteen in games played of
the two hundred and seventeen guys who were

605
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:25,039
picked that weekend. His contributions don't
come up so much in scoring. He's

606
00:42:25,159 --> 00:42:29,920
more of a defensive specialist. He
averages a point only every four games,

607
00:42:30,119 --> 00:42:34,079
but two blocks, three hits per
game, did some good things for the

608
00:42:34,119 --> 00:42:38,280
Capitals. This is this a guy
who ever could get an offensive role in

609
00:42:38,599 --> 00:42:45,119
What do you think his contributions will
be with this upcoming Caps team? Yeah?

610
00:42:45,199 --> 00:42:46,840
No, you hit the nail on
the head. He's a defensive defenseman.

611
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:52,559
He's a Martin Fervari is a force
to be reckoned with. He can

612
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:59,440
lay the body. He's very strong, he skates extremely well, very fast.

613
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,639
But I think his strongest assets are
that physicality, that strength and that

614
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:07,760
skating. You can tell he can
back checks. There's no tomorrow. He

615
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,440
can win those board battles. He
doesn't mind sacrifice in the body when it

616
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:14,400
comes to offensive roles. And he
the guy can move the puck. He

617
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:17,639
has a good first pass out of
the zone. Spoo skating doesn't hurt when

618
00:43:17,639 --> 00:43:22,440
you're carrying up the neutral zone.
Certainly doesn't hurt when you're joining the rush.

619
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:24,960
He can shoot, he can get
to the right places. I think

620
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:29,480
you've also seen him. He has
a wide open slot and what he can

621
00:43:29,519 --> 00:43:32,920
do with time and space makes a
heck of a different now. And I

622
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:37,400
think Marty, though, you look
at him and he's the shutdown defenseman that

623
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,079
the team needs on the top four. And that's why I think he's a

624
00:43:39,119 --> 00:43:44,159
good guy. That that compliments Carlson
very well, because you have Carlson who's

625
00:43:44,199 --> 00:43:46,880
the offensive minded guy and who can
show Marty a thing or two when it

626
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:52,000
comes about you joining the rush and
being the mover in that catalyst. And

627
00:43:52,039 --> 00:43:54,239
then you have Mry who can hang
back a little bit and worry about that

628
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:59,159
defensive role. That Carlson his priority
is going to let me be the offensive

629
00:43:59,159 --> 00:44:02,760
defenseman you shut down. That's gonna
make a great tandem then there and but

630
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:06,519
yeah, like you said, the
point shares all that stuff. He logs

631
00:44:06,519 --> 00:44:09,360
a lot of ice time, he
can play heavy minutes. There's a team

632
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:15,159
that is really leaning into youth on
that left side. Carlson's the right handy,

633
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:17,039
and you got TVR on the right, you got him on the right.

634
00:44:17,119 --> 00:44:20,519
You know, you got Jensen on
the right. But on the left

635
00:44:20,519 --> 00:44:22,280
you have all twenty three year olds
right now, you got Marty, you

636
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:29,599
got Rasmus, and you got Alexeiev
and leaning on that youth. Relying on

637
00:44:29,599 --> 00:44:34,440
that youth, you're going to see
Ferrivori logging even more ice time, and

638
00:44:34,519 --> 00:44:37,440
you're going to see him probably an
increase in his rule too, because like

639
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:40,239
you said, there's no Warlove.
I don't think we're Loove's coming back if

640
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:45,280
we're looking at that from that standpoint, and rule out Washington. But he

641
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:49,719
also said if they treated me,
I don't really know if it's gonna work.

642
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,039
And from what I mccollin saying,
oh, he was leaning toward exploring

643
00:44:52,079 --> 00:44:57,280
free agency, and both sides can
really come to something. I just don't

644
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:00,599
see him fitting in, especially with
the team that wants to re vamp up

645
00:45:00,639 --> 00:45:06,480
front. You're gonna be happy with
Rasmus Sandean and your blue line and maybe

646
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:09,280
adding one more guy. With that
being said, you're missing a guy like

647
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:13,119
orl Up on the left side.
You need somebody to step up, and

648
00:45:13,119 --> 00:45:15,960
now you have sandin. But don't
rule out Fairrevari. He can move fast.

649
00:45:16,119 --> 00:45:19,960
He's a big guy too. It's
not like he's like a small dude.

650
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,800
He doesn't have a booming shot.
He very strong. A lot of

651
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:28,760
strength and size and speed doesn't hurt
when you're trying to join the rush.

652
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:30,840
Like I said, so, I
think he's still coming into his own.

653
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:35,199
He has a long way to go, and if he keeps playing with Carlson

654
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:37,239
down the stretch for these years to
come. I think you're going to see

655
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:42,159
him take on a bigger offensive role
as time goes, and as the Carlson

656
00:45:42,519 --> 00:45:45,639
era winds down, you gotta have
somebody else step up, and I see

657
00:45:45,679 --> 00:45:51,639
them relying on him. You mentioned
his name a couple times already, Rasmus

658
00:45:51,639 --> 00:45:55,880
Sandean gotta mention him. I had
him ranked right around the one hundred mark

659
00:45:57,039 --> 00:46:00,239
Jesse a little after that, and
he did finish ninety seventh in Turn of

660
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:02,639
Fantasy Skaters. We didn't rank,
we didn't tier him last year, and

661
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:06,320
this year we'd think of him more
as a Tier two guy. Getting out

662
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,199
of Toronto was huge for Sandeine.
I've been a fan for his for a

663
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:13,639
while, but he he didn't really
receive the role. And with Carlson down,

664
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:16,760
we saw a little what Sandeen can
do. Twelve points in nine games,

665
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:22,119
assuming I counted those correctly. You
mentioned fifteen and nineteen either way,

666
00:46:22,199 --> 00:46:25,840
some pretty strong production there in spurts
and the limited sample size that we saw

667
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:30,880
from Santene, his offensive impacts in
terms of his expected goals for Purcier are

668
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:37,079
really high. His defensive impacts are
neutral to maybe slightly negative. Is according

669
00:46:37,079 --> 00:46:42,360
to Dom's model. His one point
four million dollars salary was way under his

670
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:47,440
eight point seven million dollar market value, So that was pretty awesome value for

671
00:46:47,559 --> 00:46:51,199
him. And he has one more
year with the Caps at one point four

672
00:46:51,199 --> 00:46:54,400
million until he's in RFA, So
this is a really excellent opportunity both for

673
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:59,800
the Caps to reap that surplus value
and for him to prove that he's worth

674
00:47:00,039 --> 00:47:02,320
a lot more than that for his
next deal. So you already mentioned a

675
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:06,840
little bit, but what do you
expect from Sandeene in twenty twenty four.

676
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:12,079
Sounds like he'll get more secondary power
play time and maybe a secondary scoring role

677
00:47:12,159 --> 00:47:16,280
behind Carlson. But do you think
he can get over that forty five point

678
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:22,119
pace mark? I think so.
I can you look at mccollins acquisition of

679
00:47:22,159 --> 00:47:25,800
Standin, and you look at a
guy like Gustison who was really coming into

680
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:30,800
his own important part of this year's
blue line. When you see the first

681
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:35,679
round pick that they acquire from Boston, go right back out. When I

682
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:39,400
think you look at a guy like
Sandein and he's a twenty three year old

683
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:45,159
up and comer who can move the
puck really well, Like you said,

684
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:49,719
never really received the opportunity with Toronto, and once he gets in Washington,

685
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:52,079
he takes it and runs with it. I think you saw some maybe a

686
00:47:52,159 --> 00:47:55,840
couple of defensive struggles in his first
couple of games, just because you're still

687
00:47:55,840 --> 00:48:00,159
adjusting to a change in scenery.
But he came into his own, he

688
00:48:00,199 --> 00:48:05,039
really did. And he's a guy
who can log power play time, he

689
00:48:05,039 --> 00:48:08,519
can play heavy minutes. He skates
really well, makes a good first pass,

690
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:15,079
can find guys really high hockey iq
I. He immediately fit with a

691
00:48:15,199 --> 00:48:17,599
vetch game was setting him up for
his one time or so. You have

692
00:48:17,639 --> 00:48:21,519
a guy who knows where to put
the puck, knows when to pass,

693
00:48:21,599 --> 00:48:23,400
knows when to shoot, knows when
to jump up in the rush, knows

694
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:29,000
when to get back, hustles,
works hard, and I think that looking

695
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:34,639
at Sanden, you're going to get
a guy who is coming into his prime,

696
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:37,320
wants to be a part of the
team's long term future, and when

697
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:42,440
given an opportunity, seizes it.
You see a guy finally get Okay,

698
00:48:42,519 --> 00:48:44,960
we're gonna believe in you and we're
gonna give you a top four role.

699
00:48:45,079 --> 00:48:47,039
And what was he do with it? He puts up fifteen and nineteen.

700
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:52,440
So if he keeps that a role
next year, and he always says,

701
00:48:52,559 --> 00:48:55,039
I don't want to be just given
a top four spot just because I'm here.

702
00:48:55,119 --> 00:48:58,559
I want to earn it. And
he's a driven guy, so I

703
00:48:58,599 --> 00:49:00,760
think he's going to have to win
it when he wants to win it.

704
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:04,079
He want to sit back and just
get a top four spot. To get

705
00:49:04,079 --> 00:49:06,480
a top four spot, you want
to work for it. I see big

706
00:49:06,519 --> 00:49:09,519
things for him. I see him
hitting at least a forty five point mark.

707
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:14,679
Good puck mover, and I'm really
good pick up for them and definitely

708
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:17,480
something that that they wanted to get
and they bought in A good guy.

709
00:49:17,599 --> 00:49:22,440
Yeah, definitely really excited about him
too. That's good inside. On the

710
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:25,440
defense, Let's move over to the
goalies. The Caps had the twentieth expected

711
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:30,599
goals against per sixty at two point
seven to four, but conceded the eighteenth

712
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:35,119
actual goals per game at three point
one eight and a big part of that

713
00:49:35,599 --> 00:49:40,199
playing above expectation was Darcy Kemper,
coming off the Cup win somewhere pretty skeptical

714
00:49:40,199 --> 00:49:43,679
of the signing, but it worked
out pretty great, at least for this

715
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:46,360
season. Kemper wasn't the reason the
Caps didn't make the playoffs. He exceeded

716
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:51,440
his goals save above expected and Delta
Fenwick. Not only that, he was

717
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:57,320
really awesome on the penalty kill,
which is sometimes a little bit difficult in

718
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:01,280
terms of having a more difficult job. And even though he did really well,

719
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:06,280
he didn't quite live up to his
market value according to Dom's spreadsheet a

720
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:09,480
million dollars under. But still he
provided what the Caps needed. It wasn't

721
00:50:09,519 --> 00:50:14,400
really his fault, as I mentioned. So moving forward, do you think

722
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:17,000
that Kemper is just going to get
fifty five to sixty starts to get next

723
00:50:17,079 --> 00:50:22,639
year and be just about as proficient. Yeah, I see, I see

724
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:28,039
him still saying about Kemper that I've
noticed over the course of his career is

725
00:50:28,119 --> 00:50:32,760
he's a very consistent presence, Like
I don't see his numbers really go up

726
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:36,360
and down kind of guy. Maybe
this year was a little bit harder,

727
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:40,239
but you also look at a team
that as a whole struggled quite a bit.

728
00:50:40,519 --> 00:50:44,440
I see they bought Kemper and on
the deal that they bombed him for

729
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:46,559
a reason, that's to be the
starting goal. He's able to keep the

730
00:50:46,599 --> 00:50:51,760
workload going. And I do think
that I think both goalies I know we're

731
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:55,639
gonna get to Chucky after Kemps,
but I think that both of them really

732
00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:00,239
are a good tandem. They like
working with each other, and Kempers he

733
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:04,159
puts in the work, he can
start multiple games. He has a stamina

734
00:51:04,199 --> 00:51:08,719
too, and I think that's management's
hope if they turn to a point next

735
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:14,519
year where they ride the hot hand. I don't know, because you also

736
00:51:14,559 --> 00:51:17,480
see lingern stands on set in December
and then Kemper comes back from injury and

737
00:51:17,519 --> 00:51:22,639
it goes back to Kemper's going to
start the majority here, and I think

738
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:25,400
that's the expectations. You have a
Stanley Cup laying that minor here, You're

739
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:29,480
going to start him for sixty games. You're paying him to start fifty sixty

740
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:31,960
games. It might depend on the
coaching, it might depend on where things

741
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:37,519
stand with the club going into the
season, but I would expect the same

742
00:51:37,679 --> 00:51:42,239
workload for the goaltenders, because,
like you said, a goaltending I think

743
00:51:43,159 --> 00:51:46,880
was something that really hurt them in
with the Samstone on Vanicheck, but this

744
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:52,320
year it's not really a reason for
why things went the way they did.

745
00:51:52,679 --> 00:51:58,800
So yeah, I mean I see
the same kind of situation plan out all

746
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:01,880
right, and yeah, yeah,
of course we're gonna talk about Charlie Lindren.

747
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:07,519
I have to say I was pretty
disappointed with his performance overall this season.

748
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:12,280
He had a really solid limited action
with the Blues, or at least

749
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:15,119
in the Blues organization HL. He
looked really good, and I really liked

750
00:52:15,119 --> 00:52:17,880
the Caps move. I thought it
was smart. They signed him to be

751
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:21,119
not just a one or a two
year deal, but a three year deal

752
00:52:21,159 --> 00:52:24,880
at one point one million. That's
a really good value for a guy who

753
00:52:25,039 --> 00:52:30,039
had proven maybe not quite enough but
a little bit, and so great for

754
00:52:30,079 --> 00:52:31,960
those of us in CAP leagues we
could get a really good value there.

755
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:37,519
But it really didn't go so well. He didn't really outperform his expected numbers.

756
00:52:37,519 --> 00:52:42,480
They actually gave him pretty good protection, better than Kemper, and Kemper,

757
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:45,519
even with less to work with,
outperformed that by a pretty good margin,

758
00:52:45,559 --> 00:52:50,360
and Lindgren they were given better protection
and he was pretty far under that,

759
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:53,440
so that was a bit disappointing.
Of course, this is unique for

760
00:52:53,519 --> 00:52:58,320
him. He's never played this mini
games. Thirty one was by far the

761
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:00,920
most he's ever played. In fact, I think pretty much more than he

762
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:05,199
had in all the other seasons combined
at the NHL level anyways, And that's

763
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:07,440
dating all the way back to the
fifteen sixteen season for Lingren, where he

764
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:12,960
just had one, two, five, six games here and there, so

765
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:15,440
it wasn't really like it was a
lot. And that's a big difference in

766
00:53:15,639 --> 00:53:19,280
role and routine and all that.
So I imagine there was some of that.

767
00:53:19,639 --> 00:53:22,239
But do you think that Lingering can
really bounce back? You said they

768
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:24,119
worked well in a tandem, and
certainly it seems like they're going to be

769
00:53:24,159 --> 00:53:28,320
rolling into the year with these two. So do you think that he can

770
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:30,960
be relied on a little bit more
and provide a little bit more value for

771
00:53:30,079 --> 00:53:34,920
his fantasy gms? I definitely think
so. I think, like you said,

772
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:38,400
Hungering, there's an interesting case because
you're talking about a goaltender who doesn't

773
00:53:38,559 --> 00:53:44,360
qualify as a rookie anymore based on
the NHL terminology of what a rookie is,

774
00:53:44,639 --> 00:53:49,800
but is playing his first full season
up at the NHL level. He

775
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:52,639
comes in for a red hot December, and then you're sitting for a long

776
00:53:52,679 --> 00:53:58,280
time, sitting for a long time, not getting the consistent games played that

777
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:00,320
you did when you were up for
five games a Saint Louis and then you

778
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:06,320
play with Springfield all year and then
you're going in out and out kind of

779
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:08,519
thing. In your first full year
with a new blue line in front of

780
00:54:08,519 --> 00:54:14,599
you. You look at a guy
like Lingern and you see a goalie that

781
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:21,119
something I love about his game is
it's not the most structured, like he'll

782
00:54:21,159 --> 00:54:25,480
jump around and he's very reactive,
very reflexive, very flexible. When I

783
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:31,280
think Darcy plays a much more structured
kind of set up, whereas Lingren isn't

784
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:36,280
that kind of goaltender. I think
their styles are just different. By Lingern

785
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:38,280
shown he can come up with those
big saves, he can come and clutch,

786
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:43,280
you know, and the blue line
arguably wasn't always the best in front

787
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:47,719
of him. You're also missing your
number one defenseman for three months. So

788
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:52,519
I think with this team coming back
and the expectations higher, and maybe Lingern

789
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:58,400
sitting sometimes so long and then finally
getting back out can hurt sometimes, like

790
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:01,880
when you see your starting goaltender.
Obviously you're starting goaltender is going to start

791
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:06,000
a lot of games, but when
you got one really long stretch where you

792
00:55:06,119 --> 00:55:09,119
perform really well and then you sit
for a while and then you come back

793
00:55:09,119 --> 00:55:12,320
and the playing from you might not
be what you want it to be,

794
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:15,159
and then you struggle with consistency and
you're not able to go out on night

795
00:55:15,159 --> 00:55:19,760
by night basis and really lock things
down in your first full year up at

796
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:22,480
the NHL level, it's gonna shake
you a little bit. But he's a

797
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:25,719
guy who hates letting in goals.
I imagine anybody does, but he really

798
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:30,360
hates laying goals even at practice.
So I see him bouncing back when I

799
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:32,960
say even. I think that they
can rely on him. I think he's

800
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:37,079
still coming into his own and finding
his style, and there's a reason that

801
00:55:37,119 --> 00:55:42,360
they signed him for three years,
and I think that he's gonna be a

802
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:46,440
much more reliable, steady force.
Just maybe the first year on paper wasn't

803
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:52,159
everything he wanted to be, But
I think that from a save standpoint,

804
00:55:52,199 --> 00:55:55,360
from a clutch standpoint, he led
them through that December. He was a

805
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:59,719
big part of that surge. When
he's come up with some big saves when

806
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:02,840
they get him too, and he's
come in relief pretty well when he's had

807
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:07,559
too, I expect figure things from
him next year. Long answer too,

808
00:56:07,599 --> 00:56:13,400
short question, Well, Sammy,
that's tremendous. Our pledge to you is

809
00:56:13,559 --> 00:56:19,199
we will try to make BMW line
happen extra Milano Wilson. We will try

810
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to help you with that effort,
and we want people to know where they

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can find your work out there and
keep up with you with capital. How

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do people follow you on social media
and keep up with your stuff? You

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00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:34,599
open a browser and you type in
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follow me on Twitter at Sammy Silber. You can follow me on Instagram at

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00:56:38,679 --> 00:56:45,679
the Kids Sammy. I'm on YouTube
now, which is hysterical Sammy on Hockey

816
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:49,880
and that's my channel, so we'll
have more fun stuff coming up there.

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I'm up in the media game.
I'm at the Hockey News now, so

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I might check out the Washington Capital
site on the Hockey News THHN dot com

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00:56:57,679 --> 00:57:01,159
slash Washington. You can find all
my stuff there now. Very happy to

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00:57:01,199 --> 00:57:05,639
be there, very fortunate to be
there. And there's no off season when

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00:57:05,679 --> 00:57:10,199
you're a hockey reporter, which is
delightful. Yeah. Just thank you guys

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00:57:10,199 --> 00:57:15,159
for reading and thank you for having
ma'am. I love being on podcasts with

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00:57:15,199 --> 00:57:20,039
my demon dog. I know you
do a tremendous job. Thank you so

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00:57:20,119 --> 00:57:29,639
much for being on with us today. Sam, Thank you Wilson. That's

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good by Good Cat Quick Grab.
Now it's your weekly goalie talk with Kats

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Silberman Cats Instincts. All right,
we're here for another edition of Cat's Instincts,

827
00:57:46,239 --> 00:57:52,840
Washington Capital's episode and we just got
to be frank about this one.

828
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:58,559
Cat. It's Graham over there in
Capital's Land. And yeah, you mentioned

829
00:57:58,599 --> 00:58:01,400
before we started, it's almost like
they felt like they didn't to worry about

830
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:06,000
anything, or maybe they couldn't use
a guy like Feenix Skopley, and turns

831
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:09,039
out that they were wrong because he
was pretty good. He was pretty good

832
00:58:09,079 --> 00:58:13,320
this year for LA. But they
do have some goalies. We will talk

833
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:16,480
about them. They I think overall
we can agree these are not ones that

834
00:58:16,559 --> 00:58:21,280
are should be high on your list
in terms of guys to run out and

835
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:24,280
grab, but we'll talk about them. We'll start with Zach Fucali, who

836
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:29,199
is Who's a guy who's been around
for a while. He is a bit

837
00:58:29,239 --> 00:58:31,800
on the older side, even as
far as goalies go. It's twenty seven

838
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:36,320
years old. He was drafted back
in twenty thirteen, but in the second

839
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:40,199
round by the Montreal Canadians. He's
six two one ninety, a little bit

840
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:46,880
perhaps undersized by some standards, and
he pretty much dropped every almost every year

841
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:52,519
in terms of his hockey prospecting probability
of being an NHLA, And when he

842
00:58:52,559 --> 00:58:55,840
graduated the model a couple of years
ago, he was down to twelve percent,

843
00:58:57,719 --> 00:59:01,519
looking mostly like guys that didn't really
amount to much and Arundel who might

844
00:59:01,599 --> 00:59:05,599
also fall into that category. Yeah, well, your instincts tell us about

845
00:59:05,679 --> 00:59:12,400
Zach Kelly. He's fun. He's
somebody that I not so secretly root for.

846
00:59:12,679 --> 00:59:15,599
I want to see him do really
well. I didn't. It's funny

847
00:59:15,599 --> 00:59:19,719
because I didn't love his game initially. When he was first drafted, I

848
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:22,440
think he almost had too much pressure
on him. He was drafted by a

849
00:59:22,559 --> 00:59:28,599
huge hockey market. He was the
heir apparent for the Team Canada goaltending depth

850
00:59:28,679 --> 00:59:34,920
chart. He was their starter,
I believe in fourteen, might have been

851
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:39,400
twenty fifteen at the World Juniors,
and I remember looking at that and being

852
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:44,840
a little irritated that he got to
be their starter because from a stats perspective,

853
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:50,119
he wasn't the best goaltender in Canada
that age group by a wide margin.

854
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:53,519
But eve been playing behind a very
strong that was the Max Domi team

855
00:59:53,559 --> 00:59:58,840
Canada that really sailed through the World
Juniors because they had so many good guys

856
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:04,800
on that team, and he really
wasn't tested a ton. He ended up

857
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:08,400
winning a medal, and then he
hit the pros and just stumbled a little

858
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:13,760
bit, and it seemed like his
game just kept backsliding, and it seemed

859
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:16,639
like he was second guessing himself a
lot. And you could almost watch you

860
01:00:16,679 --> 01:00:21,360
watch a lot of prospects develop and
it was like we were watching him devolve

861
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:25,440
instead, and his game was just
almost getting more hesitant, and he was

862
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:30,039
losing a lot of consistency to his
game. He'd always been a really good

863
01:00:30,039 --> 01:00:34,599
fluid skater. He'd always had a
lot of poise and a good depths management

864
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:37,519
to his game, and he was
even losing some of that, and it

865
01:00:37,599 --> 01:00:43,440
almost reset for him. He ended
up signing some almost like miners only deals

866
01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:49,239
where he was really just an HL
goaltender, moving to some slightly smaller markets

867
01:00:49,519 --> 01:00:53,119
where he wasn't expected to be the
guy, and got a chance to really

868
01:00:53,159 --> 01:00:59,119
rebuild his game from the ground up. It's something similar to what we saw

869
01:00:59,159 --> 01:01:02,559
from Jack Campbell. And I'm always
a little hesitant when we see a success

870
01:01:02,559 --> 01:01:07,360
story like Jack Campbell's, where obviously
he managed to go from being a first

871
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:12,119
round pick to an East a guy
who was barely hanging onto an ECHL job,

872
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:16,079
worked his way back and ended up
being a starter for multiple teams.

873
01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:21,239
I don't want to say, ah, we're seeing something similar from Zach Fucali

874
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:23,519
book it he's going to be Washington
starter, because I think we're a ways

875
01:01:23,559 --> 01:01:27,440
off from that. But at the
very least, he looked like a really

876
01:01:27,719 --> 01:01:32,199
confident go to guy in the HL
this last year for the Hershey Bears,

877
01:01:32,239 --> 01:01:38,119
and I think that's a testament to
the fact that he may be a guy

878
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:42,639
that could finally make his way to
the NHL. And I think he's only

879
01:01:42,639 --> 01:01:45,760
played four games at the NHL level
so far at this point in his career

880
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:49,400
really still has the opportunity to be
one of those slightly older rookies. But

881
01:01:50,239 --> 01:01:52,400
I think he looked good and they
really don't have a lot else in their

882
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:57,039
system right now. They had Garon
Bjorkland, who only played one game in

883
01:01:57,079 --> 01:02:00,400
the ECHL last year. I believe
he ended up hurt. I don't know

884
01:02:00,559 --> 01:02:02,559
what his status is at the moment, and they really don't have a whole

885
01:02:02,559 --> 01:02:07,840
lot else beyond that. So seeing
a guy like few Cali who really showed

886
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:15,840
the work ethic to essentially rebuild his
game after after watching it fall to the

887
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:20,760
point where Montreal didn't have a ton
of use for him anymore, is it's

888
01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:24,239
easy to ref him at this point. Love it, love the comeback story,

889
01:02:24,679 --> 01:02:28,280
and Kat says will be as good
as Jack Campbell. You heard it,

890
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:30,480
you heard it here, just kid. Yeah, that will be fun

891
01:02:30,519 --> 01:02:34,920
to see how that evolves it.
But as you said, opportunities king and

892
01:02:35,159 --> 01:02:39,480
he has very little competition, especially
as someone who could step into a role

893
01:02:40,159 --> 01:02:45,000
right away or at least very soon. He has four games in five sort

894
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:49,920
of HL seasons, but all of
those four games came in one season,

895
01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:52,440
and that was last season, so
it's not like he's even sprinkled them around.

896
01:02:52,639 --> 01:02:57,119
They all came at once and then
that was it so diff for Calli.

897
01:02:57,639 --> 01:03:00,679
So the only other guy we're gonna
mention, we could say the other

898
01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:04,360
names you said york Lund, There's
Mitchell Gibson who's been around for a while.

899
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:07,519
There's Clay Stevenson. Not really going
to have much to say about those

900
01:03:07,559 --> 01:03:12,239
guys, But Chase Clark is someone
we did want to mention. Chase Clark

901
01:03:12,519 --> 01:03:16,360
is the twenty twenty one sixth round
picked by the Caps. He's six foot

902
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:22,599
two hundred twenty pounds. He's now
twenty one years old. He was drafted

903
01:03:22,599 --> 01:03:28,519
at the USHL played for Tri City
Mouskegan. This past season, he played

904
01:03:28,559 --> 01:03:32,320
for Quinnipiac so way ago getting a
national championship. Though he pretty much backed

905
01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:37,039
up Janef Peretz, he actually didn't
get any decisions, and so that pretty

906
01:03:37,119 --> 01:03:42,519
much tells me that he just went
in when Peretz got pulled eight forty save

907
01:03:42,599 --> 01:03:45,960
percentage in those games. And he's
not even sticking around with Kinnipiak. He's

908
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:49,239
going to Sacred Heart, which,
Kay, you can crrect if I'm wrong,

909
01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:52,559
but they are not an NCAA powerhouse. So what do your instincts tell

910
01:03:52,679 --> 01:04:00,079
us about Chase Clark. I'm always
interested to see how goaltenders who transfer midway

911
01:04:00,119 --> 01:04:04,800
through their collegiate careers. I'm always
interested to see how they turn out because

912
01:04:05,599 --> 01:04:11,840
goaltending is one of those really tricky
things in the NCAA where if your team

913
01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:15,840
has a guy who's their go to
guy, it's really hard because there's so

914
01:04:16,159 --> 01:04:20,159
few seasons. Essentially, you get
your four years and then you're done.

915
01:04:20,519 --> 01:04:23,760
So if it looks like you're not
going to be the guy and then someone

916
01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:28,039
else has already committed who's coming up
underneath you, you have to move to

917
01:04:28,079 --> 01:04:31,440
another program to find the opportunity to
play games. And that's what Chase Clark

918
01:04:31,480 --> 01:04:38,039
has done here. He's moved from
ironically a powerhouse because Quinnipiac has produced some

919
01:04:38,119 --> 01:04:43,119
really good goaltenders in the past,
to Sacred Heart, which I maybe the

920
01:04:43,159 --> 01:04:45,360
low pressure environment's going to work a
little better for him. Not a whole

921
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:48,239
lot to say there. He didn't
look like he did super well when he

922
01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:53,840
was with Quinnipiac. I'm interested to
see if he'll get more reps. Usually

923
01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:58,320
when you see a goaltender transfer like
that, especially when it's been drafted,

924
01:04:58,559 --> 01:05:02,119
there's an unspoken agreement that they're going
to be able to contend for that starting

925
01:05:02,239 --> 01:05:06,760
job at their new school. Obviously
it's not a guarantee, but usually there's

926
01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:11,000
at least the reassurance that, yes, you'll get more opportunity at this new

927
01:05:11,039 --> 01:05:14,440
school. So we'll see how that
goes for him. But yeah, Washington,

928
01:05:14,559 --> 01:05:18,440
it's fascinating to me that they're a
team that it's not like Bradenholte left

929
01:05:18,559 --> 01:05:23,800
last year. They've needed a prospect
pool for a little while now. And

930
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:28,400
outside of Buckland and Mitchell Gibson,
who was released from his tryout contract with

931
01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:31,920
the team last year, so they
obviously aren't super high on him. They

932
01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:35,719
really haven't done anything, and I
don't know what they're I don't know what

933
01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:39,719
their plan is there. Maybe they're
hoping to snack some of those free agents

934
01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:44,320
from teams like Anaheim that or Pittsburgh
that have done a good job of drafting

935
01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:48,400
and developing. So we've certainly seen
a couple of teams that have employed that

936
01:05:48,519 --> 01:05:54,280
strategy of looking ahead other teams to
draft and develop their goaltenders and then they

937
01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:57,320
take them when they're NH already.
So maybe that's a Washington's up to now

938
01:05:57,360 --> 01:06:02,880
we'll see. That's instincts tell us
that Washington is copying their neighbors. Notes.

939
01:06:03,519 --> 01:06:08,960
That's what I heard. So I
would generally steer clear of these guys,

940
01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:12,760
except for Kali. I would keep
my eye on because he's someone who

941
01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:15,920
might get the opportunity and if it
just costs you a roster spot nothing else,

942
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:19,960
why not. Thanks Kat for giving
us your instincts on the Washington Capitals

943
01:06:20,079 --> 01:06:44,280
goalies. We'll be back right after
this dig. So the dynasty dig,

944
01:06:44,760 --> 01:06:48,679
Victor Nuno, we are ready to
talk Washington Capitals dynasty dig and that's not

945
01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:51,519
so great. At least they got
the number eight pick. This year.

946
01:06:53,039 --> 01:06:57,559
They have all their picks except their
third and their sixth rounder. Your system

947
01:06:57,679 --> 01:07:01,000
actually ranked them twenty first. Would
is good news. I thought it was

948
01:07:01,039 --> 01:07:04,519
going to be worse than that.
But there are a couple of decent guys

949
01:07:04,559 --> 01:07:09,039
in this system. It starts out
with your no brainer. Who's your no

950
01:07:09,199 --> 01:07:15,559
brainer prospect for the Washington Capitals.
It's Ivan Miroshnishenko, CAP's twentieth overall pick

951
01:07:15,639 --> 01:07:19,800
from back in twenty twenty two.
He fell in large part because of his

952
01:07:20,119 --> 01:07:25,960
hodgkinsling foma diagnosis. He also started
off strong but had a bit of a

953
01:07:26,079 --> 01:07:29,639
slow finish. I think you could
make the argument, and we did at

954
01:07:29,639 --> 01:07:33,280
the time that was because he was
developing or maybe had undiagnosed cancer, so

955
01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:38,079
that was a big issue for him
in his draft season. He's fully recovered

956
01:07:38,119 --> 01:07:41,639
as of last summer. He had
some training in and played the entire season

957
01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:45,519
This year. I was split between
the KHL VHL MHL, so that's always

958
01:07:45,519 --> 01:07:49,679
a bit difficult, and he struggled
with only four points in twenty three KHL

959
01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:54,000
games, but really killed it in
the MHL with fourteen points in twelve games,

960
01:07:54,039 --> 01:07:57,760
as you would expect for someone who's
a D plus one like him,

961
01:07:58,320 --> 01:08:01,280
and he at this time we don't
really know where he's playing next year.

962
01:08:01,679 --> 01:08:05,480
Avant Garde Omsko agreed to terminate his
contract. It sounded like that was a

963
01:08:05,599 --> 01:08:10,639
mutual decision there, just for the
direction they're going. And he's apparently wanted

964
01:08:10,679 --> 01:08:15,199
to come to North America for a
long time now, even before his draft

965
01:08:15,239 --> 01:08:17,760
season, even before his D minus
one season, so it sounds like he's

966
01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:21,720
going to be coming over and the
Cap signed him already. We did hear

967
01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:26,520
from Sammy which he thought about what
he would do. It sounds like HL

968
01:08:26,680 --> 01:08:29,399
time, but maybe he gets a
call up. We'll have to see a

969
01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:31,640
couple of cameos. Maybe he could
blow it out of the water and really

970
01:08:31,720 --> 01:08:34,760
gel with Ovie. You never know. That would be amazing. But for

971
01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:40,359
a little bit more on Roshanshenko,
let's hear from our FHL scout. That's

972
01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:45,479
right, Victor. Our scout for
this one is Jeremy scout Jeremy. He

973
01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:49,680
says the skating from Moroshanshenko is elite. One of the fastest skaters in all

974
01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:54,199
the games he watched. Often streaks
up the ices the second or third guy

975
01:08:54,199 --> 01:08:57,880
in a rush to create opportunities.
Backchecking, he eases off a bit,

976
01:08:58,159 --> 01:09:01,479
but that could be fixed by coaching
line pairings. Puck handling. He's got

977
01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:08,920
Marshanshenko above average created stick handler and
passer in the open ice shot above average

978
01:09:09,199 --> 01:09:13,640
rist shot is good, able to
get it off quickly. The IQ always

979
01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:16,960
a critical element of the game elite. I feel like he's always opens his

980
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:20,119
Jeremy in the zone. He's able
to split off of defenders and get a

981
01:09:20,159 --> 01:09:24,640
stick on the ice. Teammates no
to look for that with an elite passer,

982
01:09:24,680 --> 01:09:28,880
he could be very dangerous. Defense
average effort level on d's not the

983
01:09:28,920 --> 01:09:31,199
best, but I don't think it
will hold him back either. Best asset.

984
01:09:31,319 --> 01:09:35,079
IQ really has a right place,
right time, quality and the offensive

985
01:09:35,159 --> 01:09:42,119
zone. Biggest concern obviously the last
year development due to the health impacts,

986
01:09:42,359 --> 01:09:45,640
but the other is consistency of his
effort. Shift to shift and we'll see

987
01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:51,600
how his World Junior and MHL game
translates to men's leagues in North America top

988
01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:57,239
tier potential. What's the upside that
Jeremy sees Tier one? That's the big

989
01:09:57,279 --> 01:10:00,239
boys has all the tools to be
a top line, top our play point

990
01:10:00,279 --> 01:10:05,920
per game producer in the NHL.
Also should have above average shots and hits.

991
01:10:05,960 --> 01:10:10,680
That's what we love to hear.
Most likely tier Jeremy says, probably

992
01:10:10,680 --> 01:10:14,159
Tier two is more likely. Not
sure he's a lock for point per game,

993
01:10:14,199 --> 01:10:16,560
but with his nose for the net, should hit sixty to seventy points,

994
01:10:16,600 --> 01:10:20,479
shoot a lot, get above average
hits for scoring. Forward two stylistic

995
01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:27,479
comparison will have victors sit up straight
in his seat because as Joe Pavelski without

996
01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:31,520
the god tier tip game, Jeremy
says, obviously, nobody is Joe Pavelski

997
01:10:31,560 --> 01:10:35,239
in that area. Morosa Schenko is
a good skater and shooter with a nose

998
01:10:35,439 --> 01:10:40,399
for the net. Likes playing net
front, crashing for rebounds, scot shooting

999
01:10:40,399 --> 01:10:44,560
and puck talent as well. Loves
to digging in the corners and create chaos.

1000
01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:47,399
Who is the NHL rank king?
Mason Black going to compare him too

1001
01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:51,600
in the poll? Sure enough,
it's the man who has picked one spot

1002
01:10:51,640 --> 01:10:56,800
ahead of him. In last year's
NHL draft. That's Liam Ogren, who

1003
01:10:56,880 --> 01:11:01,279
was drafted by the Minnesota Wild.
There are similar trajectors. Actually, Ogren's

1004
01:11:01,359 --> 01:11:08,399
NHL or probabilities and star probability have
dropped some with this year. Memroshashenko's NHL

1005
01:11:08,479 --> 01:11:12,199
probability has gone up to a little
bit higher than Ogrin is right now,

1006
01:11:12,359 --> 01:11:15,800
but his star probabilities is a touch
lower than Ogrin's. One of the guys

1007
01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:21,520
I believe that Nate found as a
similar comparison here was match Perot as a

1008
01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:30,279
guy who might compare Tomroshanshenko. But
in terms of the vote between Yvonne mrosh

1009
01:11:30,319 --> 01:11:34,000
Nashenko and Liam Ogrin, it was
a dead even fifty fifty split. I

1010
01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:38,479
don't know how that works with one
hundred and fifty nine voids, but there's

1011
01:11:38,520 --> 01:11:42,680
some kind of a decimal rounding system
there. Victor, sounds like a coin

1012
01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:45,800
flip. I know you're an Ogrin
man, So which one of these two

1013
01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:51,800
guys are you taking? This is
really hard. I do both these players,

1014
01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:59,680
I think for bash reasons. Murshashenko
has that I would say, of

1015
01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:02,279
course, he hasn't really ever played
a full season, so we don't really

1016
01:12:02,319 --> 01:12:06,720
know how that's gonna go. We
know that Ogren. I really like o'gran.

1017
01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:11,560
I mean he's got he's got so
much smarts and all around is really

1018
01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:15,880
good. And he was part of
that Drew Gardens team that was relegated and

1019
01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:20,279
we thought would be back in the
SHL next season and they came up just

1020
01:12:20,279 --> 01:12:24,840
a little bit short. He was
also really great in the promotion playoffs,

1021
01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:27,199
but they couldn't quite get it done. And he's another one who's going to

1022
01:12:27,279 --> 01:12:30,920
be on loan to a different team
next year and so we'll get to see

1023
01:12:31,039 --> 01:12:35,319
him there. I think there's a
lot to be said also for having the

1024
01:12:35,439 --> 01:12:42,439
player in North America like close to
being NHL ready, and Moroshashenko is that

1025
01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:45,159
with the Caps. He also has
a wide open opportunity to join the team

1026
01:12:45,199 --> 01:12:50,119
and to be relevant very soon Ogrin
and the way that the Wild are right

1027
01:12:50,159 --> 01:12:56,319
now, they have a lot of
options. He's certainly relatively close playing in

1028
01:12:56,359 --> 01:13:00,000
the SHL and the als Fenskin,
but he might be another two three years

1029
01:13:00,039 --> 01:13:03,159
and then where does he fitting the
roster. Marshashenko is clearly someone who could

1030
01:13:03,199 --> 01:13:08,920
play near the top. I would
say top six for sure, So I'm

1031
01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:14,000
taking him. I like the wide
open path for him to be an NHL

1032
01:13:14,079 --> 01:13:17,239
regular. I like the bash,
I like the scouting report, I like

1033
01:13:17,359 --> 01:13:21,640
everything about Marshashenko, and so it's
close. I like both of these guys.

1034
01:13:21,680 --> 01:13:26,479
But I'll take Marshashenko and what about
you, Jess. Yeah. I

1035
01:13:26,479 --> 01:13:29,279
think in the end we're going to
find out both of these guys were drafted

1036
01:13:29,800 --> 01:13:33,680
lower than they should have been.
But Morosiashenko's trajectory is sailing up now that

1037
01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:39,680
we know he's number one able to
get out of Russia and number two recovering

1038
01:13:39,880 --> 01:13:44,199
from that illness. Victor next up, you have your need to know prospect

1039
01:13:44,279 --> 01:13:50,680
to wizard Alexander's Who's Dalev is the
next guy. His name sounds a little

1040
01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:57,479
Russian, but he's actually split Russian
Swedish nationality. Twenty twenty two, third

1041
01:13:57,560 --> 01:14:01,079
round pick six, two hundred and
seventy six pound left winger. He played

1042
01:14:01,079 --> 01:14:05,600
in Sweden growing up. He was
in HV seventy one system for a large

1043
01:14:05,640 --> 01:14:09,880
part. Last year he was mainly
at the J twenty level. Looked really

1044
01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:13,479
good there. A little bit hard
to evaluate because he just looked so much

1045
01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:16,119
better than everyone. But he came
over to North America this year. He

1046
01:14:16,239 --> 01:14:20,840
played for the Regina Pats in the
WHL eighty six points in sixty six games.

1047
01:14:21,399 --> 01:14:24,960
I know he played a little bit
with some guy named Connor Berdard,

1048
01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:28,319
but that wasn't really the main thing. And I know I talked to Joel

1049
01:14:28,359 --> 01:14:30,479
Henderson a little bit about this,
and he didn't necessarily play with him all

1050
01:14:30,520 --> 01:14:33,960
the time, and so that wasn't
That doesn't explain all of the production,

1051
01:14:34,039 --> 01:14:41,800
but certainly the gravity effect of everyone
moving matching up towards Dard and trying to

1052
01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:46,800
shut him down allowed more opportunity for
Susdalov, allowed him to play against a

1053
01:14:46,840 --> 01:14:50,000
little bit weaker competition and allowed him
to flourish a little bit more, and

1054
01:14:50,039 --> 01:14:54,000
so that that won't be the case
next year. We presumed Dard will be

1055
01:14:54,039 --> 01:15:01,920
in the NHL and Suzdalov will probably
be back in the WHL, so we'll

1056
01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:03,960
have to see about that. He
did get a couple of games in the

1057
01:15:04,199 --> 01:15:08,159
HL, was a sign there this
season, but he didn't get into any

1058
01:15:08,199 --> 01:15:13,640
games, so Dalav is still a
little ways away. I'm a little concerned

1059
01:15:13,640 --> 01:15:16,279
that he really struggled to drive play
in the WHL, especially after playing in

1060
01:15:16,279 --> 01:15:21,159
the ALS Fenskin and the j twenty
level in Sweden. He was really good

1061
01:15:21,479 --> 01:15:26,119
over there, but he didn't really
have the best underlying numbers in the DUB

1062
01:15:26,840 --> 01:15:30,000
Next season, I guess it's unclear
where he's going to be, because it

1063
01:15:30,079 --> 01:15:32,600
sounds like he could be in the
HL, but we'll have to wait and

1064
01:15:32,600 --> 01:15:36,279
see where he's going to be.
It will be his third league in three

1065
01:15:36,279 --> 01:15:41,560
seasons, and that's always hard moving
around to different places. Looking at some

1066
01:15:41,640 --> 01:15:45,920
of his analytics that are there for
the WHL, he's really good at primary

1067
01:15:45,920 --> 01:15:50,199
shot assists for sixty as well as
ozone passing. He's got some pretty good

1068
01:15:50,199 --> 01:15:58,000
transition numbers in terms of controlled exits
control entries. He's got some pretty decent

1069
01:15:58,119 --> 01:16:00,720
for checking numbers. His shooting is
a low though his shots for sixty are

1070
01:16:00,800 --> 01:16:05,119
quite low as ours expected goals for
sixty, so that's unfortunate. Doesn't do

1071
01:16:05,279 --> 01:16:11,560
much with blocks and hits, but
has some pretty decent other defensive metrics,

1072
01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:15,359
so all in all, not super
exciting. The shooting is a bit disappointing,

1073
01:16:15,960 --> 01:16:18,920
but his tracking data for Mitch Brown, he's got an overall of ninety

1074
01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:24,119
nine. This also reinforces his really
poor shooting, but that's really the main

1075
01:16:24,159 --> 01:16:28,159
thing that's negative here. His passing
is really good, his transition game is

1076
01:16:28,159 --> 01:16:30,760
really good. Some of his defensive
numbers are really good. A couple of

1077
01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:35,239
them are not so good. But
overall his offenses a ninety five, his

1078
01:16:35,319 --> 01:16:40,960
defense is a seventy two, and
his overall ranking ninety nine percentile. So

1079
01:16:40,960 --> 01:16:44,199
that's pretty good for Alexander Suzdalov.
Jess, you're gonna let us know a

1080
01:16:44,199 --> 01:16:47,920
little bit more about him from RFHL
scout. Yes, indeed, victor our

1081
01:16:48,039 --> 01:16:54,319
FHL scout Tony has some things to
see on Suzdalov says he's a good skater,

1082
01:16:54,720 --> 01:16:59,119
very good puck handler. Uses his
puck handling to escape defenders or get

1083
01:16:59,119 --> 01:17:01,840
a pass to a t made.
Has got good shots, a good wrist

1084
01:17:01,880 --> 01:17:08,079
shot and one timer iq hide a
very high according to Tony, lots of

1085
01:17:08,079 --> 01:17:12,479
offensive upside, panic meter load of
medium. Seems able to handle his way

1086
01:17:12,560 --> 01:17:16,479
out of trouble in defense decent,
does not shy away, willing to engage

1087
01:17:16,479 --> 01:17:19,880
a player or take a hit to
make a play. Will block a shot.

1088
01:17:20,279 --> 01:17:24,199
Needs work, but he's willing to
do it. Boy, that's not

1089
01:17:24,239 --> 01:17:27,680
something I'm willing to do. Mostly
block a shot, best asset, Tony

1090
01:17:27,720 --> 01:17:30,680
says, his puck handling and passing
boards. Uzdalev able to get his own

1091
01:17:30,720 --> 01:17:35,000
shot, also willing to play defense. Biggest concern skating and becoming too much

1092
01:17:35,039 --> 01:17:41,079
of a peripheral player. Top tier
potential, what would be his best outcome

1093
01:17:41,800 --> 01:17:45,279
Tier one, he said, in
the sense of our tier one also includes

1094
01:17:45,359 --> 01:17:48,760
players who are seventy to eighty points, but our top six power play time

1095
01:17:49,159 --> 01:17:54,560
if he gets some good bash skills
are slightly above average anyway, and most

1096
01:17:54,600 --> 01:17:57,600
likely tier Actually, he's going to
put him down in Tier three, but

1097
01:17:57,720 --> 01:18:01,079
somebody's going to get maybe forty points, but he will have to work on

1098
01:18:01,119 --> 01:18:06,760
his skating, be willing to keep
up on defensive play. Stylistic comparison comparison,

1099
01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:12,319
He's going to say a cross between
Johann Franzen and Tomash Holpstrom. Better

1100
01:18:12,359 --> 01:18:16,119
skills but not as much physicality.
Good player, top six guy is what

1101
01:18:16,199 --> 01:18:21,039
he's hoping that Suzdalov will be by
barbage skills, and he needs to work

1102
01:18:21,119 --> 01:18:27,159
on some of the defensive areas.
The NHL rank King Mason Black gave us

1103
01:18:27,199 --> 01:18:33,119
a comparison of Alexander Suzdalov versus Amadeus
Lombardi Hey Philadelphia are a Detroit draft picks

1104
01:18:33,199 --> 01:18:38,000
are Victor's favorites. So we're gonna
hear a little bit of his take on

1105
01:18:38,119 --> 01:18:45,119
this comparison, Susdalav Versus Lombardi and
our guy. Nate also picked Stefan Nelson

1106
01:18:45,319 --> 01:18:50,000
as a potential comparison to Suzdalov in
terms of his trajectory so far in his

1107
01:18:50,119 --> 01:18:56,520
career. So, Lombardi and Alexander
Suzdalov, if you compare them on the

1108
01:18:56,640 --> 01:19:00,479
NHL Rank King Pull, this was
somewhat less popular one, but out of

1109
01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:05,439
seventy seven votes, Lombardi comes out
ahead fifty seven to sixty three percent.

1110
01:19:05,920 --> 01:19:13,039
Which one do you have, Victor, Alexander or Amadeus. Yeah, this

1111
01:19:13,119 --> 01:19:15,479
is a good one. And I
did do all the write ups for the

1112
01:19:15,560 --> 01:19:23,000
Dauber Prospects Fantasy guide for Detroit,
So I'm pretty familiar with Amadeus and he

1113
01:19:23,119 --> 01:19:27,640
is someone who should be probably on
people's radar. He's looking pretty good,

1114
01:19:27,640 --> 01:19:30,640
he's trending up. He's I like
him. He was in the OHL this

1115
01:19:30,720 --> 01:19:34,039
year. He's got he's got some
really good offensive instincts that when you look

1116
01:19:34,079 --> 01:19:39,760
at his when you look at his
numbers on hockey prospecting, it looks very

1117
01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:43,840
discouraging, but I know that his
PNHL E numbers are a little bit higher,

1118
01:19:43,840 --> 01:19:47,439
as you quoted, really close to
what Suzdalov has didn't and even got

1119
01:19:47,479 --> 01:19:53,800
into a couple of HL games there, So that was pretty fun to see.

1120
01:19:53,920 --> 01:19:57,640
For Amadeus, I think he has
he has got a big step that

1121
01:19:57,760 --> 01:20:00,640
he needs to take and so we'll
have to see if he can do that

1122
01:20:00,680 --> 01:20:04,840
in the AHL. But he is
someone who is interesting, especially being a

1123
01:20:04,880 --> 01:20:10,159
fourth round pick, it's going to
be it's already a win that we're even

1124
01:20:10,199 --> 01:20:14,960
talking about him in this conversation.
But Suzdalov I think, I think he

1125
01:20:15,199 --> 01:20:17,920
just has more tools to work with
and I like him a little bit better.

1126
01:20:18,359 --> 01:20:21,720
It's interesting to hear those comps.
I wouldn't have thought that necessarily,

1127
01:20:21,920 --> 01:20:25,239
And if you look at the hog
your prospecting, as I mentioned, it's

1128
01:20:25,239 --> 01:20:29,560
no question who's better. So in
some ways it might be which would believe

1129
01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:31,560
a little bit more, But I
think both these guys have a lot of

1130
01:20:31,840 --> 01:20:34,159
room to grow. There's still a
lot of development that needs to happen.

1131
01:20:34,359 --> 01:20:39,000
Certainly could go either way, but
I would believe I believe a little bit

1132
01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:43,960
more in suzdalo Jesse. What about
you. I hope that Suzdala is able

1133
01:20:43,960 --> 01:20:46,359
to come up. I was at
a little bit put off by the report

1134
01:20:46,439 --> 01:20:49,800
and sounds like maybe he's not all
that a beg of donuts. But we

1135
01:20:49,840 --> 01:20:54,279
are talking a little bit more of
the down ballot prospects at this point.

1136
01:20:54,840 --> 01:20:58,960
Victor. Third prospect for the dig
who is to keep your eye on?

1137
01:20:59,079 --> 01:21:03,239
Guy? This is Vincent Iorio,
twenty twenty one second round pick by Washington,

1138
01:21:03,399 --> 01:21:06,600
sixty three, right handed d twenty
two points in sixty three games for

1139
01:21:06,720 --> 01:21:11,079
the Hershey Bears of the HL,
and then four points in nine playoff games.

1140
01:21:11,560 --> 01:21:14,319
Got into a few games with the
Caps, one assist, nothing major

1141
01:21:14,359 --> 01:21:18,199
to write home about. His small
sample size of evolving hockey data, has

1142
01:21:18,359 --> 01:21:24,760
pretty low or poor defensive impacts,
and some of his underlying numbers don't look

1143
01:21:24,800 --> 01:21:27,600
great. But again it's a really
small sample size even in the HL.

1144
01:21:27,840 --> 01:21:31,880
But his shooting and even blocking doesn't
look too great. But let's hear what

1145
01:21:32,079 --> 01:21:36,960
our FHL scout has to say about
Vincent Ioio. Jesse, our FHL scout

1146
01:21:38,039 --> 01:21:43,079
and great friend of the show,
Nate, says the following. He says,

1147
01:21:43,079 --> 01:21:45,720
the skating is above average, moves
up and down the ice, with

1148
01:21:45,920 --> 01:21:50,600
ease, smooth controlled skating style with
smooth, good speed and agility. Puck

1149
01:21:50,640 --> 01:21:55,479
handling below average. Looks a little
uncomfortable when handling the puck and it can

1150
01:21:55,520 --> 01:21:59,560
be a grenade when it gets on
his stick. Shot below average when he

1151
01:21:59,600 --> 01:22:02,920
does shoot the puck, low percentage
riskers From the point in Nate's view,

1152
01:22:03,159 --> 01:22:08,600
not enough shot attempts to get an
opinion other than that Aorio is never going

1153
01:22:08,640 --> 01:22:13,760
to be a goal scorer. Defenseman
Q vision offensive The IQ for the player

1154
01:22:13,800 --> 01:22:16,920
average start with a positive. When
he's in defensive zone coverage, he's an

1155
01:22:16,920 --> 01:22:21,239
asset, picks up the check even
when on the ice for a goal against,

1156
01:22:21,239 --> 01:22:25,600
it usually isn't his man who gets
free. That's why he gets big

1157
01:22:25,640 --> 01:22:30,039
PK minutes in the HL defense average. As outlined above, his defensive coverage

1158
01:22:30,439 --> 01:22:36,560
and PK workout you know very well
while defending the puck. The biggest asset

1159
01:22:36,680 --> 01:22:41,439
was his defensive zone play. Biggest
concern is his offensive IQ. So what

1160
01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:46,119
is he going to be the top
upside the peak of his potential top pairing

1161
01:22:46,159 --> 01:22:50,439
defenseman. If he can reiner his
propensity to get caught joining the rush focus

1162
01:22:50,479 --> 01:22:54,680
more in his defensive game, he
could be a two way shutdown guy,

1163
01:22:54,800 --> 01:22:59,159
most likely tier second or third pairing
depth defenseman probably never get to a point

1164
01:22:59,159 --> 01:23:01,560
where he can be the guy who
matches up against the other team's top lines,

1165
01:23:01,560 --> 01:23:05,399
but there's a need for defenseman who
can match up against the better teams

1166
01:23:05,399 --> 01:23:09,720
in the league, who have skill
up and down the lineup, and the

1167
01:23:09,760 --> 01:23:15,600
stylistic comparable Brandon Carlo a complimentary piece
on the team's blue line, maybe not

1168
01:23:15,640 --> 01:23:20,920
the top pairing guy Orrio. NHL
Rank King comparison our poll of the week

1169
01:23:21,680 --> 01:23:28,199
is Vincent Irio versus Ronan Seely,
another guy who's a fairly recent pick.

1170
01:23:28,239 --> 01:23:34,119
He was a late Carolina pick a
year before Ario's twenty twenty one selection,

1171
01:23:34,880 --> 01:23:40,279
and our guy Nates, who also
did this. He also found a Jason

1172
01:23:40,359 --> 01:23:45,560
Smith comparable as somebody he thought might
be interesting. So viscent Irios, Ronan

1173
01:23:46,119 --> 01:23:49,800
Seely. The NHL Rank King,
put it on Twitter, put it to

1174
01:23:49,920 --> 01:23:55,720
the readers, the listeners, the
Hockey Twitter, and Ario came out the

1175
01:23:55,760 --> 01:24:00,600
winner sixty to forty percent. Victor, is that what you would have said?

1176
01:24:01,039 --> 01:24:04,000
Yeah, I think so. I
like Iorio. I like that he's

1177
01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:09,760
already playing NHL games. He a
though some of the under hanging numbers don't

1178
01:24:09,760 --> 01:24:14,039
look good for his NHL time,
but that's okay. I think that we

1179
01:24:14,119 --> 01:24:16,000
can forgive that. But I do
like that he's a bit closer. I

1180
01:24:16,079 --> 01:24:23,760
like that he can have some better
upside with the peripheral categories. So it's

1181
01:24:23,880 --> 01:24:26,279
this is a deep cut, but
I'll take Ioia. What about you,

1182
01:24:26,359 --> 01:24:30,600
Jesse? Yeah, I think that's
fair. I think Diorio could be a

1183
01:24:30,720 --> 01:24:43,920
good selection for this team. Hey, everybody, a couple of things to

1184
01:24:43,960 --> 01:24:46,359
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Dabber Hockey and Dauber Prospects. We're part

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of the Dauber Hockey podcast network.
Vickers an editor at Dauber Prospects. You

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can follow his work there as well
as his podcast, Dauber Prospects Report that

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he does now with Peter Harling,
focusing exclusively on hockey minor league players.

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So it's a great compliment to this
show. I think we mentioned at the

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outset we have a Patreon. It's
got a lot of things that you might

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enjoy if you enjoy this show,
including ranks. You have access to the

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tier Dynasty leagues, which we're going
to be firing up. We're already actually

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starting to convert it over to twenty
twenty three twenty four mode, So come

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on in. There's plenty of room. There's going to be a new league

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drafting, and there's going to be
some dispersal drafts to fill behind people who

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were promoted, and guess what,
they left some pretty good players around,

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so you might be able to jump
in and have yourself a pretty good team.

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Dynasty Sports Life. I do a
second podcast and it's me and guests

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and friends of the show that I
bring on, but we talk Dynasty basketball,

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Dynasty baseball, Dynasty Football. Usually
will have a focus on one sport

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per episode. I do get into
Dynasty hockey sometimes primarily in the episodes I

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call the Blender, which is where
I mix multiple dynasty sports maybe talk about

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some sort of cross cutting issues that
cover on multiple dynasty sports. You can

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follow Victor and myself on Twitter at
Victor Nuno twelve viic tr and U n

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O one two is how to get
a hold of Victor on Twitter, or

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you can check me out fan Hockey
Life all one word. You can rate

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and review this podcast. First subscribe, then rate, then review five stars

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please because we need your help on
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you get your podcast. We appreciate
that this has been Washington Capital's talk and

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until next time with another team preview, keep living that fantasy hockey life.
