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Welcome back. Second hour of the
program. Greig camp you will join us

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at eight thirty five, but the
Oakland University had basketball coach earning the contract

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extension. He'll join us at eight
thirty five. We will replay in our

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next segment, replay our conversation with
Michael Harraw about eighteen after the hour.

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Mike joined us yesterday talk about his
experiences in the Lions this year. Dan

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Campbell also said something yesterday that I
thought was pretty interesting, and that is,

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you know, we can't do Ron
Burgundy. We can't just read off

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the prompter. You've got to do. You gotta do something different. Understands

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that they've had guys who've reached the
Super Bowl. I'm glad our expectations.

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I'm glad. I'm glad the organization's
expectations are the same as the fans expectations.

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Good for you. We've gotten there. They helped us along because of

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what they did a year ago.
We've gotten there minus a catastrophe Jared Goff

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getting injured for the entire season,
perhaps a guy like Hutchinson or Sewell getting

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injured for the entire season, or
a rag Now I might add, the

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expectations is getting and winning the Super
Bowl. That's the way it should be.

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Others, other organizations should have the
same expectations. Now, the Tigers,

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we've talked a lot about. The
Tigers announced something yesterday that did not

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go over very well. I'm not
sure who's handling this stuff. It's just

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have you ever heard the phrase,
take the temperature in the room. It's

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basically telling you understand what's going on
here before you deliver a joke, news,

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a line, whatever. The Tigers
apparently want to create premium seating what

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they call experiences for fans, and
they've wanted to do it for a while.

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Why they choose to announce it now
is beyond me. I don't understand

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it. If your team is doing
what the New York Yankees are doing and

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winning forty five games to lead all
of baseball, I can understand why you

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might make the announcement. Folks,
we're forty five and nineteen, we've got

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the most road wins of anybody in
baseball. But it's really the home ballpark

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that makes the difference, and we're
going to allow that difference to be felt

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by you. We're announcing new premium
seating experience coming to Yankee stadium in twenty

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twenty five. The Tigers. In
the meantime, what do they do?

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They announced this, ladies and gentlemen. We're in second to last place.

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We're nine and a half back.
We're thirty one up, thirty one down,

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playing better as of late. But
hey, guess what, We've got

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premium seating experiences for you starting next
year. It's a great project. It's

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going to provide significant upgrades to the
fan experience that was met poorly. You

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see, the beauty of being down
low at a ballpark is the opportunity for

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fans to go there and get autographs
as guys come off for batting practice or

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go out to batting practice. That's
an experience. Now what you're going to

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do is create a home plate club
and have new loge boxes. Sounds great,

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doesn't it. But people were pissed
about this. They are not happy

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at all. Ryan Gustason, the
president, says, our goal is to

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continue investing in creating a variety of
best in class experiences for all fans.

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Here's what fans want. They'll watch
from a high school field. If you

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give them a championship product, people
have to I've never understood how people don't

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see the big picture in things,
have a pulse of what fans are experiencing

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right now. You should know that
coming out with this type of promotion,

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that's really that's not fair. It's
not a promotion, this type of news

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to try and sell to fans to
get to get them excited about what's going

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to be the response? You know
what the response is going to be,

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right, what is it? The
response is to see what a five hundred

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baseball team, a team that doesn't
win invest in the product on the field.

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That's what they're going to say,
and that's exactly what they have been

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saying. You want us to get
fired up over new lows boxes, the

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home plate club while your team is
average it best? What are you doing

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to get us fired up about our
baseball team? I remind people this all

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the time. We don't have a
large window of good comfortable days in this

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state, do we. What would
you say it would be? What's the

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range mid May through what mid September? Maybe people want to go on their

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boats, People want to go up
north, people want to go golfing.

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They want to enjoy their backyard barbecues. They want to have people over on

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their back porch on a Friday night
and all that other stuff. They put

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your game on great, they get
fired up about your team super in order

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for you to get them to your
ballpark and miss out on some of the

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other things that they don't have a
large window to do. You better put

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a decent product on the field.
Do they have a decent product? Does

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it make you say, yes,
I'm going to leave this, I'm gonna

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postpone this. I'm not going to
do this so I can go down there.

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Not the home plate club, not
that quote unquote best in class experience

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for all fans. First of all, it's not for all fans. Second

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of all, people aren't going to
be all kinds of fired up for that

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unless you're going to put a winning
product on the field. The high end

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experience built beneath the stands and located
on the service level between the two clubhouses.

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Now, I will say this,
I like the opportunity to do that

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at the right time. I don't
know when the right time is, but

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it sure isn't right now, I
don't believe. But I do like that

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opportunity. Dodgers have it, a
lot of high end teams have it.

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They do it makes for something,
you're gonna put something else together. Great,

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you're taking out four hundred and ninety
seats behind home plate. They're going

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to insert three hundred and fifty premium
seats in that area, so they're going

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to give you something. It sounds
like a cool experience. I just don't

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know how many people feel that it's
worth it right now. Eventually it should

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it have been done a long time
ago. Should you have had the foresight

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to do it, much like when
the Palace did it before? Everybody else?

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Yes? Is there ever a good
time? You bet there is.

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Doesn't mean it's now, And the
announcement coming in early June while your team

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is at five hundred is probably not
ideal either. It's great for you because

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you view it as an experience that'll
take your franchise to a different level,

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but you're not thinking like a fan
right now. The fan is not happy

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because of the way the team is
performing. When we come back Michaelhera,

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we interviewed him yesterday, we'll replay
the interview about his tenure as a Lions

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beat writer, why you should be
encouraged with these year's Lions team, and

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make a differences. Really fortunate to
be able to bring in this next guest.

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He's as admired as maybe any writer
who has ever written in the state

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of Michigan. I mean, there
are certain writers where you look at and

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you say, you know what,
I believe him. That's not always easy.

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A lot of people feel like they
have been fortunate to work with a

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legend like Mike O'Hara, who's in
the Michigan Sports Hall of fame, and

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rightfully so, he's been doing as
well as anybody. From nineteen sixty six

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through two thousand and eight he was
of the Detroit News and after that time

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with the Lions in on Lions dot
Com, and he's been a Lions beat

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writer since nineteen seventy seven. He
has served his country and he has served

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this area so gracefully and so well. And he joins us now that he's

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going to retire on Monday, and
rightfully so. Michael Harris with us here

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on Exis and Bros. Michael,
thank you, congratulations. It's so well

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deserved. How did you know it
was time? It just felt that way,

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And I think I was probably a
year late. I probably should have

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retired last year or not this year, not this year. Just it's just

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the things that were easy to do
were quite as easy, and just just

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I just had that feeling that it's
time to go. But now I guess

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I think I kind of got caught
up in the new organization and all that

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thought. I could just see see
what they had in this last year,

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and it turned out they had a
lot. And I don't regret staying another

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year. I really don't. Yeah, I don't think anybody who reads your

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synopsis, your breakdowns, your analysis, uh fe feels that either what have

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you enjoyed most about your career?
Well, you know, I'm not a

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player, so I can't, but
it's very similar to that for us.

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You know, it's the test room, just you know, kind of to

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come to work and the the insults
start to fly and and all of that.

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And then I start to talk about
things in the game, and you

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know, it's still competing, don't
get me wrong, but but you know

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what it's like to start talking about
what happened yesterday, what might happen tomorrow,

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you know, And that was the
fun part, just sort of interacting

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with with guys from you know,
from the other other papers and other media

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outlets. That that was really to
me, the fun of the business.

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What's interesting, too, is that
this team might have its best opportunity.

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You would know this better than I, but this team might have its best

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opportunity to reach the Super Bowl,
and you may not be able to write

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about that if you're leaving on Monday. Did you ever think about that as

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you were contemplating this decision. Well, that's why I stayed another for this

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year was another season we just had
no I thought about it. Yeah,

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but no I didn't. They wouldn't
do it for that reason. I wouldn't.

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By the way, I just like
to mention one thing. The guy

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who's made all of this a lot
easier is Tim twenty than you know.

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He came over from the Trade News
year about a year before I did,

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to the and I think he's probably
one of the most prolific writers I've ever

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been around in my life. He
just does so many days, he does

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it so well. It's really been
a pleasure looking with Tim. Yeah,

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it's a great point. He's excellent
at what he does. And yeah,

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he really is. And he sent
something out on Twitter. He's been so

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well accommodating, endearing and understanding and
willing to learn. I mean, it's

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funny, even when you do it
for as long as you and Tim has

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done, you can still learn from
people. And absolutely yeah, and he

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wrote, look, legend, I'm
so fortunate to have been able to work

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with and learn from Mike at both
the Detroit News and here with the Lions

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over the last twenty years. It's
not like he staked a claim to his

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territory and said I'm sorry. I
feel threatened by a legendary writer. Instead,

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he opened his arms to you.
And I think you've done that for

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quite a few people as well.
So many stories with the Detroit Lions.

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I'm sure you get asked this all
the time by people. So I'll just

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be one in the many of a
line of people who've asked you this,

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Is there any one particular player or
storyline that sticks out to you in all

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the years you've covered this franchise,
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and it is not a good one. I don't think that Berry Sanders retirement

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was That was one, and I
was expecting it, I really was.

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And I'll tell you a quick,
little quick story that one of the writers

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for ESPN had had just a little
item in his column that off season that

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Barry wasn't happy and he sort of
had a sense of that, you know,

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And so I called his father,
William, who I got to know

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somewhat not you. We want close
friends, but he was always accommodating to

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talk. And I said, mister
Williams dot Williams. Anyway, I said,

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I asked him to say that,
but I read on Sports Illustrated and

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I said, what's the deal?
And he said, he's sick of them,

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He's sick of losing. Oh boy, this is going to be something.

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It turned out to be just a
blockbuster story from that moment until Barry

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Sanders, you know, did not
show up for training camp three months later

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or whatever it was. And and
it was just to me that was probably

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the biggest story that I covered,
was involved with, or what whatever you

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want to call it. Michael joining
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to think that wasn't my favorite,
because I wanted to see Barry Sanders play

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and not just a great player,
but a great person too. But to

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me it was the most obviously had
the most impact. Michael here joining us

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here on Exis and Bros. He
retires Monday, and he's a Michigan Sports

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Hall of Famer. He's been the
reason you read about the Lions for for

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so many decades. When you when
you look back at all the teams and

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all the players you've covered, is
there what's the biggest misnomer that people failed

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to realize about a player or this
franchise That the Forges don't want to don't

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care about winning and losing, and
they very much about it. That's why

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it made so many changes, and
I'm just going since I came on the

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beat in nineteen seventy seven, you
know, I forday add up the number

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of coaching changes and canel canes and
all that, but we'd be here for

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a month and a half or something
like that. They put all that together.

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But you know, they care very
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will through different generations. You know, mister William clay Ford passed away,

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and think it was nineteen nineteen eighty, nineteen eighty for something like twenty I'm

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sorry, twenty thirteen. And then
is his wife, Martha Firestone Ford took

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over and absolutely committed to winning.
And then now Sheila hamp the daughter and

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really has been on the just the
front line there of changing things for the

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Detroit Lions, and she's been successful. She's had a success that the other

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ones haven't had for whatever reason.
What do you like about this Lions team?

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Younger players with talent and speed?
I like speed, and then they

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have that. They have a lot
of other excusely a lot of other things

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to do, but they have also
interchangeable pert and I don't think if you

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look at that team, nobody has
it all. And it's just it's it's

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impossible. What really is because no
matter how well things are going, you're

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going to have they're going to change
personnel from one season to the next.

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I mean, there's a big somebody
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the average thirty percent of your rosterial
channel from one season to the next.

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I don't know if that's exactly true
that I'm sure it's not staying off.

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And so that's the hard part is
putting all these players back together. But

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the however they've done and through the
just great drafting, you know, really

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Brad Holmes, the general manager,
and with the head coach Dan Campbell,

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you know, chiming in, they've
really been able in three years. The

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first three years. We haven't seen
this year's team play yet, but in

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the first three years they've really put
together good players, not just first round

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players, but you know, all
the way through the through the through the

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roster and through the draft, they've
been able to put together good players on

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the field for the and going to
be good not just this year and next

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to it. They're going to be
good for a while. They really are.

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They only have like any aging players
that they have to get rid of

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the Pretty Solace from talked about him. He's been writing in this area since

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nineteen sixty six. He's covered the
Lion since nineteen seventy seven. He's a

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Hall of Famer. He's Michael Harra. Mike, thanks for your time.

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Congratulations, appreciate the friendship and all
that you've done and keeping things interesting for

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Lions fans, whether they're winning or
losing. You deserve this, my friend.

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Congrats, Hey, Chip, thanks
thanks for calling me. I appreciate

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it. Good stuff with Michael Harry
yesterday. Hope you enjoyed it. He

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will have the rest of this weekend
to write and then he's done, and

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there are things to talk about with
the Detroit Lions a lot. It might

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be a little. And I asked
him off the air about this when he

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and I first talked a couple of
nights ago, and look, this is

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a this is a time where you
want to cover teams like the Lions because

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not only are they good now,
but they should be keywords, should good

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for a long time. But there
comes a point in time where you're like,

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Okay, I've done this long enough, I've achieved everything I could want,

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and I have to be able to
dictate things myself, and he's doing

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that, and I give him a
ton of credit for doing it. Love

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what he's brought to the table for
us. For a long time, we've

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had we've been very fortunate in this
town and in this state some really exceptional

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writers in a lot of different areas, not just Michae O'Hara, but also

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Kurt Sylvester for example a long time
ago writing about the Lions, Tim Twentyman

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right now, many of the players, many of the people, Dave Briquette,

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we've had them on, Kyle Minkey, guys who have done a really

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nice job of covering various sports.
Mick McCabe has done it for decades covering

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high school athletics, and we'll have
him on someday here on Axis and Bros.

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But it's been an enjoyable ride.
Oftentimes those rides have to come to

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an end, unfortunately, and for
Mike O'Hara and those who appreciated and enjoyed

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his writing, it has as well. About an hour from now, Greg

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camp people join us on XES and
Bros. Talk about his contract extension and

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talk a little bit about why he
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Thirty five after the hour. One
hour from now, Greg camp you will

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join us the head coach of Oakland
University of Basketball. What are they doing

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right now? What's going on with
all the things that they may have on

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their plate and how they're handling it, His contract extension, his run in

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the NCAA Tournament a year ago,
all those things, nil, how is

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the landscape change. There's a lot
of things to discuss with him, and

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we will do that with Greg Camby
at eight thirty five. Speaking of college

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basketball, Dan Hurley is expected to
have a face to face with the Lakers

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today. It's kind of crazy,
isn't it. JJ Reddick was the name

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everybody was thrown around like it was
a done deal, and suddenly Dan Hurley's

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name is thrust into the conversation and
he will be in for an infase interview

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today. We do know that he
has in the past talked about wanting to

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be part of an NBA coaching staff, want to be a head coach in

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the NBA. I just we touched
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I just don't know how his it's
not personality, it's his coaching style fits

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the NBA game. It is totally
different. Man. If he happens to

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get the gig, he would be
the twelfth college coach in the last thirty

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years to reach the NBA coaching fraternity. The combined winning percentage of the eleven

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coaches before him is forty five percent. And it's not like those guys were

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bad coaches in college and decided to
move on. John Beeline, who I

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know, well one just fourteen games. He's an excellent coach, excellent coach,

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and after fifty four games resigned.
Why well, players work differently in

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the NBA college coaches. Not that
NBA coaches don't watch film, they do,

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but you have an opportunity to educate
and teach more at the collegiate level.

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How's that guys at the NBA.
That's not what it's about anyway.

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So John Beelin was one of them. Billy Donovan made the jump in twenty

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fifteen. He's only one of two
coaches who left college to go to the

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NBA who has a winning record in
the NBA and he's still coaching five years

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of a thunder. Also was the
head coach of the Bulls, Right yeah.

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Fred Hoiberg made the jump the same
year, went from Iowa State to

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the Bulls, spent four years there. A little friction between him and it

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was Jimmy Butler at the time.
He's now back at the collegiate level.

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He's still at Nebraska, right yeah. Brad Stevens is the other coach besides

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Billy Donovan on the list to have
a winning record in the NBA and then

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of course bumped up to the Celtics
front office. And look at what he's

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done. You talk about a guy
who knows what he's doing. You were

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looking for a guy who has a
vision, a guy who can coach,

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relate, talk to the players,
and then has a vision on top of

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all that. You bet Brad Stevens
is that guy. He's he knows so

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much about what he's doing. He
might be a guy I would if I

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were an owner and I really wanted
things to done the right way, I

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might take him and give him part
ownership in order to lure him from where

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he is now in Boston, you
would give him a partial ownership piece.

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He took Butler to two final fours, left for the Celtics eight years there.

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Missed the playoffs just once and that
was his first year, by the

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way, went to three conference finals. He was coach of the year or

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no, he was close to being
coach of the year. He was a

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finalist quite a few times. I
don't know exactly how many, but quite

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a few times. And now he's
the president of basketball operations. Danny Ange

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leaves Stevens takes over. You want
to know, not a huge Seltics fan,

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okay, but if you really want
to know how to build an organization

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the right way, look at what
Boston has done. Everybody, every franchise

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makes mistakes, but look at what
they've been able to do. Danny Age

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as much as you and I despised
him as a player, not at BYU,

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not with the Toronto Blue Jays,
but as a member of the Boston

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Celtics, as a player, that
dude went to the front office and knew

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what the hell he was doing.
He did a really good job in the

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front office in Boston. And then
when he's gone, they bring in Brad

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Stevens and look at what he's done. Consistency, expectations, a way of

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doing certain things right. This is
how we do it here. It's not

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a song. It is a song, but it's not one that I'm referring

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to here. But this is how
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how we're going to continue to do
it. This is the blueprint for success

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with our franchise. So Brad Stevens
Billy Donovan the only two who had winning

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records overall as head coaches after making
the leap from college to pro. Reggie

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Theis is another. He left New
Mexico State and went to Sacramento. It

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wasn't long season and a half,
not good. Got fired his second year

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when he started six to eighteen.
Do you remember Mike Montgomery. He was

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at Stanford, had a Final Four
appearance in nineteen ninety eight, was Coach

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of the Year, inducted into College
Basketball Hall of Fame, went to the

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NBA, took over the Golden State
Warriors. Two years there, thirty four

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up, forty eight down in both
seasons. Then he got the boot.

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Leonard Hamilton. I had forgotten this
one. Leonard Hamilton coached at Miami.

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So the Hurricanes was pretty damn good
there, right, Oklahoma State Miami.

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Then went to the Washington Wizards.
Lasted one season, nineteen wins, the

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fewest in their twenty four year history
at the time. Lon Krueger. I

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remember Lon Krueger Illinois. He went
to Atlanta. How long did Lon Krueger

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last? Not long? Twenty seven
games into his third season. Fired Tim

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Floyd Iowa State, then Chicago.
Boy, you think the Chicago Bulls would

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learn a little bit. The Chicago
Bulls do it with Fred Hoiberg. They

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did with Tim Floyd. Prior to
Fred Hoiberg. Tim Floyd was really good

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at Iowa State, couldn't get it
done in Chicago or Charlotte. I think

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he was head coach at Charlotte there
too. And then of course two others.

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John Kellapari, we all remember that
he was at UMass then went to

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the Nets. Everybody thought it was
a coup, this is going to be

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great. Lasted two and a half
seasons. He was three and seventeen in

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his third season in and they said
enough is enough, goodbye. And then

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PJ. Carlosimo seton Hall than Portland. Now he had a longer run.

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Three years in Portland led them to
the playoffs each time couldn't get out of

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the first round. Then went to
Golden State. You remember the Latrelle spree

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Weell choking incident during practice. Fired
after three years with the Warriors, bounced

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around a little bit, assistant with
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So both those two organizations and now
as an analyst on TV Slash Radio,

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those are the quote unquote legacies that
you'd be looking at if you're Danny

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Hurley. I guess my question would
be the money is one thing, right,

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I mean, it's hard to tell
somebody not to chase. First of

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all, if you've always wanted to
coach the best at what they do,

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of course you do. I get
it. And the money, who's going

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to say no to that? I'm
sorry. It's a factor. Way of

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life is a factor. So I
get all that. I don't know why

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teams don't look closer at coaches personalities
and how it might relate to the NBA

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player, not just personalities, because
I actually I think John Beelin's personnel,

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the way he coaches it would be
fine for the NBA. It's how you

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go about it. He was a
film hog, always watching film wanting players

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to do the same, just don't
do that. He was a fundamentalist.

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Works so hard at helping players pass
to the outside hand, pivot the way

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they're supposed to do things with the
opposite hand as often as they do with

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their dominant hand. All those things
going to help guys up after getting knocked

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down. Something simple, yes,
but something that was oftentimes taught and expected.

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Folks, that's just the way the
NBA wants it handled. It's a

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different way of coaching. Ken.
One of my first questions if I were

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interviewing a college coach would be,
what is it about your style you think

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works best in the NBA? How
will you accentuate that? And then what

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about your style won't work in the
NBA? And how are you going to

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either eliminate that or curtail that to
make sure it does work. I wonder

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how many front office people actually ask
that question or those questions or even care.

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See it's the shiny new toy,
right, Yeah, I get it.

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Danny Hurley was phenomenala at Connecticut,
and I think his team is preseason

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fifth? Is that right? Ben? I think preseason fifth coming in so

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be it, But just because it
works at the collegiate level. Just because

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you can coach at the collegiate level
doesn't mean that you can coach at the

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highest level. Would the respect be
there? And I think that's important.

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Yeah, I do. I think
the respect would be there. But look,

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man, I mean the way you
communicate, the way you handle your

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practices, the way you handle huddles
all very important. I think the reason

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a lot of guys. You'll see
a lot of coaches who are successful who

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maybe weren't the greatest player. Now
it's a little different here with Jason Kidd

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and his success with Dallas. Rick
Carlisle wasn't a great player, but he

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was around. He played with great
players, Larry Burr for example, Kevin

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McHale, he was with some great
players. All those things. They're soaking

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in that knowledge. There's no doubt
about that. He knows how to handle

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it. Jason Kidd was well aware. But then you've got guys like Joel

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Minzula. They're not playing, but
they understood, they understand how you communicate,

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how you motivate NBA players. It'll
be a fascinating follow with Danny Hurling

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to see if that ends up working
out with the Lakers or an NBA team

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down the road. Now, speaking
of the NBA, there's a guy who

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does ESPN and ABC. Now,
I'm I don't know how much you're a

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huge fan of Kendrick Perkins as an
analyst, very deadpan, very dry.

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But it's so subjective so I can
appreciate it. But look, he's been

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doing it for a while now,
and give him credit. He's willing to

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take on the biggest names in the
sport, including Lebron James. Lebron James

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recently had a statement on a podcast
where he said he was so blanking mad

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that he's not Kyrie Irving's running mate
anymore in the NBA. They won a

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championship in Cleveland together, as you
know, and Kenrick Perkins was pretty ticked

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off about it. Here's what he
said. He said, Here we go

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again, Lebron James, weasling his
way into somebody else's moment. This says

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not about you. Your team is
at home. This is about the MAVs

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and the Celtics. But you're so
mad and disappointed that you're not Kyrie's running

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mate anymore. Here we go again. I give him credit for his willingness

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to take on a guy that most
people will not touch because they're afraid of

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the repercussions. Now, in fairness, and I'm not I'm sure people who

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listen to the show realize I'm not
a huge fan of Lebron James, not

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that he's not a great player.
I'm just talking about the person and how

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he handles his business and some of
the what I consider to be a little

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conniving. I will say this about
him. To his credit, he was

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giving a lot of love to NBA
analyst Doris Burke. He wrote this out

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on X important moment for our sport
tonight, Love and respect to dB dorisburg

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and everything she does to elevate all
of us. You're a and he put

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a goat emoji wrote on on as
now goat she I wouldn't say greatest of

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all the time. I think Doris
does a really good job. She's worked,

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she works exceptionally hard. Our paths
crossed during w NBA's Detroit Shock tenure,

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and she said that she always wanted
to do this, and I give

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her a massive amount of credit because
she set that goal. But more than

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anything else, she recognized what she
had to do to get there. Nobody

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out works her. It's awesome she
became the first woman to serve as a

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TV game analyst for any major men's
professional championship event, and I'm sure it'll

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open the door for more, which
none of us should really have a problem

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with as long as people know what
they're talking about. I don't care if

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it's man or woman, it doesn't
matter. But she's done a really good

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job for ESPN and she's but she
hasn't gotten it. She she has not

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received the accolades and the positions only
because she's a woman. She's done it

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because she works hard and she's really
good at what she does. So if

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we're going to take the proverbial shot
at Lebron James, you know, coach

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killer, like we talked about yesterday, trying to take the moment from a

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guy like Kyrie Irving, according to
Kendrick Perkins, do give him some love

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for recognizing certain other things that are
important in the sport too, including what

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we saw last night on television with
Doris Burke as one of the analysts.

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Eight thirty five, Greg Campy will
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Danny Hurley and his thoughts on why
college coaches struggle to make that transition and

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we'll talk about a lot of other
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