WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.440 --> 00:00:05.000 This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jay Gonzalez. Sound Fox 2 00:00:05.040 --> 00:00:10.439 Sports fourteen fifty. Subscribe now to the podcast on the iHeart Radio while just 3 00:00:10.519 --> 00:00:14.080 surgery. I on the Ball. Hey, welcome back to the ball here 4 00:00:14.080 --> 00:00:16.879 on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve, He's Jay. No. We 5 00:00:17.160 --> 00:00:21.679 have said with breaking news. This is I on the Ball. Breaking news. 6 00:00:22.960 --> 00:00:26.640 All right, we'll start off our breaking news here with Tommy Lloyd being 7 00:00:26.719 --> 00:00:31.640 named the U eighteen USA head for the summer. I think it isn't actually 8 00:00:31.719 --> 00:00:36.759 you nineteen. You know they corrected it, well, did did they? 9 00:00:35.119 --> 00:00:40.320 Yeah? The oh no, they put you nineteen. They crack, So 10 00:00:40.359 --> 00:00:44.159 it is you got it. Sorry. That's a big time, big time 11 00:00:44.200 --> 00:00:48.240 though. That was quick for him. Yeah, yeah, three years and 12 00:00:48.560 --> 00:00:53.320 three years shows kind of a lot of respect for what he's done well exactly. 13 00:00:53.520 --> 00:00:55.479 I mean that, you know, people recognizing that, you know, 14 00:00:55.759 --> 00:00:58.520 he's a pretty good coach. Just last year, about ten months ago, 15 00:00:58.560 --> 00:01:03.000 no one thought he could coach. Ten months ago. It was uh oh 16 00:01:03.040 --> 00:01:07.959 yeah, yeah, ten time flies, man. I was thinking it was 17 00:01:07.959 --> 00:01:11.680 just earlier this year. No, we're in February, two more months. 18 00:01:11.079 --> 00:01:15.120 I thought we were still November. Sorry, Yeah, but now you look 19 00:01:15.120 --> 00:01:19.280 good for him. And again you know he's gonna get He's gonna he's gonna 20 00:01:19.280 --> 00:01:23.120 get or I should say, some really good high school players are going to 21 00:01:23.159 --> 00:01:26.640 be exposed to Tommy Loyd. Oh yeah, you know he's gonna be able 22 00:01:26.680 --> 00:01:29.719 to build really obviously he's gonna have to build relationships coaching them. So yeah, 23 00:01:30.120 --> 00:01:33.879 yeah, that's a that's a very cool thing. Was it was ua 24 00:01:33.959 --> 00:01:38.480 team team that was the one that Colin Boswa played on here ryeah, Yeah 25 00:01:38.560 --> 00:01:41.760 that's true. Yeah, one of those before yeah, last summer, yeah, 26 00:01:41.879 --> 00:01:46.359 last summer. Yeah, Okay, moving into more sad news, Carl 27 00:01:46.400 --> 00:01:52.879 Weathers passed away. Apollo Creed Many Apollo Creed. I can't believe. You 28 00:01:52.959 --> 00:01:56.079 know, the studio's a mountain of a man to remember those first movies there, 29 00:01:56.719 --> 00:02:01.159 you know, you know one of those guys that you know for us, 30 00:02:01.319 --> 00:02:04.480 you know you and I I mean I was in high school when when 31 00:02:04.560 --> 00:02:10.000 Rocky and and you know, just he was always that guy that was out 32 00:02:10.000 --> 00:02:13.599 there, right. I mean, he wasn't in a ton of movies. 33 00:02:14.039 --> 00:02:15.919 He wasn't a ton of movies that I saw. I've seen most of the 34 00:02:16.000 --> 00:02:19.479 Rocky movies. It's all of those, you know, he was in the 35 00:02:19.479 --> 00:02:22.960 Predator movies. I didn't see any of those. Then the whole the Happy 36 00:02:23.000 --> 00:02:28.840 Gilmore you know movie with with with Adam Sandler, but just a guy that 37 00:02:30.599 --> 00:02:34.360 you just had to appreciate that he just looked like a guy, right who 38 00:02:34.520 --> 00:02:38.919 who you know, don't I know, but but he seemed like just a 39 00:02:38.960 --> 00:02:43.360 guy. You know, I don't know, but you know to me meaningful 40 00:02:43.360 --> 00:02:46.360 to me because of you know, to me today to to this day, 41 00:02:46.439 --> 00:02:52.280 rock I can think Rocky is one of my top two or three movies of 42 00:02:52.319 --> 00:02:55.439 my lifetime, you know, really and certainly yeah, certainly my top sports 43 00:02:55.520 --> 00:02:59.960 movie. Who would be what would be the other time? Like the Guy, 44 00:03:00.000 --> 00:03:04.800 god Father? Uh, stuff like that. I have some movies that 45 00:03:04.840 --> 00:03:07.159 I watch all the time. Do I think they're the best movies, you 46 00:03:07.240 --> 00:03:10.120 know, but they're entertaining to me. But like the Godfather, you know, 47 00:03:10.719 --> 00:03:13.639 one of the all time great movies. I got Father. I can 48 00:03:13.680 --> 00:03:16.879 sit through Rocky. They always have them on Vice. They're always it was 49 00:03:17.400 --> 00:03:20.919 it was on this morning. They don't get tired, you don't get tired 50 00:03:21.120 --> 00:03:23.280 now and you can pick it up at any point and you take lines from 51 00:03:23.319 --> 00:03:27.039 the movie, even the Creed stuff now, you know, and if you 52 00:03:27.199 --> 00:03:29.199 forget, you know, the guy was an NFL player for a couple of 53 00:03:29.280 --> 00:03:34.800 years, played with the Raiders, and so yeah, you know I missed 54 00:03:34.800 --> 00:03:37.479 the guy, you know. I mean I I was really heartbroken when they 55 00:03:37.520 --> 00:03:44.199 killed him in Rocky four. If he dies, he dies, Damn Russians. 56 00:03:44.319 --> 00:03:46.319 Yeah, Carl Weathers, uh, you know, love the guy. 57 00:03:46.360 --> 00:03:51.479 And it's sort of like again a sign that our guys Steve that we grew 58 00:03:51.560 --> 00:03:53.759 up with are all. Yeah, there's a lot of them. There's a 59 00:03:53.800 --> 00:03:58.319 lot of them, a lot of them. And Keith Richards lives on. 60 00:03:58.520 --> 00:04:01.840 I checked my pulse every morning. It's a good little bit. But you 61 00:04:01.840 --> 00:04:03.919 know, it's one of those things where you you say, you know, 62 00:04:03.919 --> 00:04:08.680 a guy like Carl Weathers, you know, good physical shape all his life 63 00:04:08.680 --> 00:04:11.560 and stuff like that. And Keith Richards, man, he's still out there 64 00:04:11.639 --> 00:04:15.759 kicking it. Father time hasn't found him and not Hey, yeah it doesn't. 65 00:04:15.840 --> 00:04:17.560 Father time doesn't want to get near him. So there you go, 66 00:04:18.040 --> 00:04:26.240 all right. Moving into Arizona basketball news, Lonarady updated the backtology to day 67 00:04:26.439 --> 00:04:29.720 to day and Arizona is a two seed in the West as of right now. 68 00:04:29.839 --> 00:04:32.879 Yeah, so the fans would love that their first and second round Spokane 69 00:04:33.160 --> 00:04:36.120 Angeles, right, Yeah, well, no, that's the that's the West. 70 00:04:36.199 --> 00:04:41.279 That's a West. Yeah, Spokane or Salt Lake. Okay, they 71 00:04:41.439 --> 00:04:45.480 love him in Spokane, they do. I would be It's just it could 72 00:04:45.519 --> 00:04:47.319 be hard to get to. Yeah, we'll see. I don't know. 73 00:04:47.639 --> 00:04:53.000 I don't want to take that drive if I have to. What's the furthest 74 00:04:53.000 --> 00:04:58.399 that you've had to drive or to cover to drive to Salt Lake five six 75 00:04:58.439 --> 00:05:00.920 years ago he drove to Salt Lake, Joe six six hours of Vegas and 76 00:05:01.000 --> 00:05:05.160 another six hours to Salt Lake and came back. They did really well. 77 00:05:05.160 --> 00:05:11.959 That was the year of the kid, the Kid the l A kid who 78 00:05:12.000 --> 00:05:17.279 went and declared Stanley Johnson, Stanley Johnson the rest of you know. No, 79 00:05:17.279 --> 00:05:20.600 no, it went to Sacramento to last year. That yeah. Brian 80 00:05:20.639 --> 00:05:27.279 Peterson and I Brian Joe all the way. Thanks, thanks Brian. So 81 00:05:27.399 --> 00:05:30.720 sticking with the basketball, there was a sellout last night. Staying on that 82 00:05:30.879 --> 00:05:35.759 topic of the game, I wanted to ask if you guys saw the comments 83 00:05:35.759 --> 00:05:44.680 from Mark Manson about about the environment. Okay, it was kind of like 84 00:05:44.720 --> 00:05:48.959 the same question that Justin did. Justin asked to Cronin, and Crownin said, 85 00:05:49.000 --> 00:05:54.000 you go ask Sean, go ask you know he it was a snarky 86 00:05:54.079 --> 00:06:00.680 route to Justin mad say so instead of going that way, Mattson, you 87 00:06:00.720 --> 00:06:04.399 know, praise p wex, but what what Arizona's created here talks about how 88 00:06:04.399 --> 00:06:11.160 he's gonna miss the PAC twelve and so basically a complete opposite of what the 89 00:06:11.199 --> 00:06:15.600 response was, highlighting what a turd mc bro talking about his buddy Luke Walton 90 00:06:15.680 --> 00:06:18.639 and Sean was here and you know there's a lot of great players that have 91 00:06:18.680 --> 00:06:23.319 come through here. Blah blah blah. Again once again mc cronin has respect 92 00:06:23.360 --> 00:06:28.120 for no one and it's not shocking. But look, you know a guy 93 00:06:28.199 --> 00:06:30.240 like you know, matthe and who played and you know he played at Stanford 94 00:06:30.240 --> 00:06:32.879 at a time when you know they had some battles with Arizona. Yeah, 95 00:06:32.920 --> 00:06:36.319 no question, and and so certainly, you know you would expect a guy 96 00:06:36.360 --> 00:06:41.040 to have a guy like him who's been here during those times they have a 97 00:06:41.120 --> 00:06:44.839 level of respect for you know, for Michale. Yeah. Interesting, I 98 00:06:44.839 --> 00:06:47.040 didn't I didn't, I didn't see the comments. But good. They want 99 00:06:47.040 --> 00:06:50.519 to talk to him party specifically to see what he would say to I don't 100 00:06:50.519 --> 00:06:54.560 know, I forget who asked. The guys behind us were nice to him 101 00:06:54.759 --> 00:06:57.839 last night, you know they, I mean they were vicious on you know, 102 00:06:58.079 --> 00:07:00.040 was here. You know it's here to You saw him at the end, 103 00:07:00.079 --> 00:07:02.360 and I wanted to say, we should have had him on. Was 104 00:07:02.560 --> 00:07:06.199 J John? Because he's gone. Yeah. Yeah, he came up and 105 00:07:06.279 --> 00:07:09.199 was talking to you. I was trying to get his attention. He was 106 00:07:09.199 --> 00:07:12.879 at the scores table talking to those guys and it was talking to Tom Donaldson 107 00:07:13.639 --> 00:07:15.560 and I was trying and I want to say, J J, we need 108 00:07:15.600 --> 00:07:19.000 to get you on the show. But I didn't get a chance again two 109 00:07:19.079 --> 00:07:26.240 years ago. Yeah, he was there last night. Moving into the what 110 00:07:26.279 --> 00:07:30.160 we kind of mentioned earlier, the SEC and Big ten have announced the Joint 111 00:07:30.439 --> 00:07:36.839 Advisory Group, made of president's chancellors and ads of the two conferences. So 112 00:07:36.879 --> 00:07:42.879 this is where they take charge of everything. And not to mind them be 113 00:07:42.920 --> 00:07:46.720 in charge of everything as long as they include the rest of us, right 114 00:07:47.079 --> 00:07:51.279 if they don't try and break away and it's just them too with crap team 115 00:07:51.399 --> 00:07:57.639 football teams like Vanderbilt and Rutgers and and you know the you know those teams 116 00:07:57.639 --> 00:08:01.399 that you know, aren't deserving, but because they're in their conference, they 117 00:08:01.480 --> 00:08:03.439 get to come along for the ride. Yeah, you know, I just 118 00:08:03.519 --> 00:08:07.519 you just hope that whatever they decide to do and however they're gonna run it, 119 00:08:09.040 --> 00:08:13.839 that you know, it's available to most everybody. And I guess that's 120 00:08:13.839 --> 00:08:16.279 why I'm so nervous about all that is because there's almost sort of a kind 121 00:08:16.279 --> 00:08:20.680 of a middle of the pack program. You know, they're not usc they're 122 00:08:20.720 --> 00:08:24.920 not Washington, they're not Oregon, and you know they could get kicked to 123 00:08:24.959 --> 00:08:31.160 the curb and most people outside of Arizona wouldn't really care, you know. 124 00:08:31.759 --> 00:08:35.159 So, uh well, we'll see, we'll start to see what their discussions 125 00:08:35.159 --> 00:08:39.320 are and what they decide to do. Yeah. So, moving more into 126 00:08:39.320 --> 00:08:45.240 the NFL stuff now, Cliff Kingsbury landed a job as the Raiders offensive coordinator. 127 00:08:45.440 --> 00:08:48.000 I want his life, right if I screw up, I want to 128 00:08:48.039 --> 00:08:54.240 fall forward every time. I mean, it's already set up for him to 129 00:08:54.519 --> 00:08:58.320 get paid from home again, right man? Oh from what are you talking 130 00:08:58.320 --> 00:09:03.440 about? They're gonna he'll get he'll get his contract and then if things don't 131 00:09:03.480 --> 00:09:09.080 go well yeah yeah, yeah, and they'll pay I get you the yeah, 132 00:09:09.120 --> 00:09:13.360 it's the it's the Kivan O'Neill contract. Yeah, you know, go 133 00:09:13.399 --> 00:09:15.639 and send a big one and get fired in two years and still get paid 134 00:09:15.679 --> 00:09:18.360 and still get paid well, you know. And related to that, there's 135 00:09:18.360 --> 00:09:24.519 a lot of discussion speculation that Chip Kelly interviewed for the couple of times, 136 00:09:24.159 --> 00:09:28.679 interviewed twice, and that he's trying like hell and I just read an on 137 00:09:28.720 --> 00:09:33.799 three article that he's trying to get the hell out of there Washington. He 138 00:09:33.879 --> 00:09:37.440 wants that, he's interested in the in the Washington Commanders offense coordinator. He 139 00:09:37.480 --> 00:09:41.960 just doesn't want to deal with all the sure he wants. He wants out 140 00:09:41.000 --> 00:09:43.720 of l A. Talked about that, you know, And the on three 141 00:09:43.840 --> 00:09:48.399 article they just read said that basically U C. L A screwed up by 142 00:09:48.440 --> 00:09:50.960 not just going ahead and firing him at the end of the year. Yeah, 143 00:09:50.080 --> 00:09:52.960 I think a lot of people thought that that they should have just fired 144 00:09:54.000 --> 00:09:56.440 him, because now if he leaves but say in a week or two, 145 00:09:56.919 --> 00:10:00.600 they're screwed for next season. So as they hit in to the big Yeah, 146 00:10:00.639 --> 00:10:03.240 he's not saying this, the writers are saying. Everybody else is saying 147 00:10:03.279 --> 00:10:07.600 that he's really trying to get out of l a h. Then he look 148 00:10:07.679 --> 00:10:11.039 and he's been he's been vocal about Yeah, you know, all the chaos 149 00:10:11.039 --> 00:10:13.360 and the strap that they have to So he came up with some pretty good 150 00:10:13.399 --> 00:10:16.799 ideas, right what to solve or how to solve? Yeah, but that's 151 00:10:16.799 --> 00:10:20.120 so far away and any of that is so far away from happening that he 152 00:10:20.240 --> 00:10:22.879 just wants the hell out of there and just go go coach football. And 153 00:10:22.960 --> 00:10:26.919 so the thing about it with him, the think about with him Jay, 154 00:10:26.120 --> 00:10:31.440 he's about al righty, he's about l'out older. He hasn't had had a 155 00:10:31.480 --> 00:10:35.039 lot of success after he left Orgon a few years back. Yeah, but 156 00:10:35.360 --> 00:10:37.919 think about it, Steve. If he goes somewhere and all he has to 157 00:10:37.960 --> 00:10:41.600 do is run an offense, he doesn't have to be the head coach and 158 00:10:41.639 --> 00:10:45.919 it's not all on him, I bet that would be as he's made all 159 00:10:45.960 --> 00:10:48.240 the money he could he's ever gonna need. So why not go get in 160 00:10:48.320 --> 00:10:52.279 the job that you actually are going to like? Your good like? But 161 00:10:52.799 --> 00:10:56.639 would you be any good? Would you hire him as an offensive coordinator? 162 00:10:56.720 --> 00:11:00.960 Yeah? I think I would. I'm sure if I don't need him to 163 00:11:01.000 --> 00:11:05.240 go into If I don't need him to go into parents living rooms or boosters, 164 00:11:05.320 --> 00:11:09.720 you know, events and stuff like that. If all I need him 165 00:11:09.840 --> 00:11:16.240 to do is draw plays and call an offense, why not I yeah, 166 00:11:16.399 --> 00:11:18.519 I would. I don't know, I don't know if I I think he's 167 00:11:18.519 --> 00:11:22.679 better than Cliff Kingsbury. Yeah, as an offensive coordinator. Good point, 168 00:11:24.480 --> 00:11:28.679 good point. But I wouldn't hire him either, like you just wouldn't hire 169 00:11:28.759 --> 00:11:33.720 because he wouldn't want to bring around your girlfriend or something. Probably probably you 170 00:11:33.759 --> 00:11:37.240 know, if if you were to knock on my door, Steve, I 171 00:11:37.240 --> 00:11:41.639 would be if you have an extra room. My wife was really disappointed, 172 00:11:43.559 --> 00:11:46.159 was really disappointed. He got fired from Texas Tech the year before they came 173 00:11:46.200 --> 00:11:50.519 here. Who's your hunt? Let him right in because by the way, 174 00:11:50.559 --> 00:11:54.519 your bags are passed, our seats are on the we're on the visiting side. 175 00:11:54.559 --> 00:11:58.360 And I'm like, he's going to be like right there and my wife 176 00:11:58.440 --> 00:12:03.679 is going to be with and then shouting distance of it. Oh cliff fliffy, 177 00:12:03.720 --> 00:12:11.360 cliffy god. Okay, speaking of offensive coaches, Dave Canalis, the 178 00:12:11.879 --> 00:12:15.799 new head coach for the Panthers, I thought it was he had a great 179 00:12:15.879 --> 00:12:18.039 quote. So when they asked him about Bryce Young and what he wants to 180 00:12:18.039 --> 00:12:22.120 do, and he said, we are going to become what Bryce Young is 181 00:12:22.120 --> 00:12:26.879 great at. Right, And I feel like a lot of times with these 182 00:12:26.919 --> 00:12:33.279 coaches they try to too much to control over the offense rather than playing to 183 00:12:33.679 --> 00:12:37.879 their strengths. Right. And one example that comes to mind is the Khalil 184 00:12:37.960 --> 00:12:43.279 tate for me, exactly this quote here, you notice, coach to your 185 00:12:43.320 --> 00:12:46.200 talent. So of course isn't that the number one thing you should do? 186 00:12:46.840 --> 00:12:48.480 The thing about it? With today's world? And I know we're all getting 187 00:12:48.519 --> 00:12:54.720 old except for you, Sam. You said, is that the coaching is 188 00:12:54.080 --> 00:12:58.600 on the thirties, thirty six, thirty two? Very young teams are going 189 00:12:58.679 --> 00:13:05.639 young, younger. I mean this new coach at Michigan, he's under forty, 190 00:13:05.080 --> 00:13:09.600 he's like thirty. Well, who's outside of hardball he's the new older 191 00:13:09.679 --> 00:13:11.720 guy. But there's who's the Seattle guy? He's pretty young? Oh that 192 00:13:11.879 --> 00:13:16.120 McDonald, I think he's what thirty six? It's kind of like the Josh 193 00:13:16.200 --> 00:13:20.600 pastor, Uh look yeah, where that is? This is definitely the most 194 00:13:20.639 --> 00:13:26.080 that we've seen as far as young coaches. Right, So it's not would 195 00:13:26.080 --> 00:13:30.559 you hire Bill Belichick right now? Yeah? Exactly exactly. Bill. You 196 00:13:30.559 --> 00:13:33.639 know you made your money go away. Yeah, that's also on TV. 197 00:13:33.639 --> 00:13:37.279 I do even want him to be a consultant because then his fingertips are on 198 00:13:37.679 --> 00:13:41.480 everything and everything and that and that. Yeah, and that becomes the you 199 00:13:41.480 --> 00:13:43.679 know, the narrative for your team, and that's I think one of the 200 00:13:43.720 --> 00:13:50.480 reasons. Well they didn't hire Himah yeah, I hired Chip Kelly before I 201 00:13:50.639 --> 00:13:54.600 d Belichick. You know what, so what I what? I agree with 202 00:13:54.679 --> 00:14:01.000 you? Oh, Cliff, Yeah, It's super interesting with Bill Belichick though, 203 00:14:01.039 --> 00:14:03.679 because now you start to ask yourself, is he going to coach again? 204 00:14:03.759 --> 00:14:07.360 Because in the NFL the window closed, right, and he's seventy two 205 00:14:07.480 --> 00:14:09.759 years old, is it? So now he's not going to coach this year, 206 00:14:09.799 --> 00:14:11.879 So by the time you need him to coach, he's seventy three. 207 00:14:11.960 --> 00:14:16.879 Do you want that guy? You know? The only other option to be 208 00:14:16.919 --> 00:14:20.919 college. But can you even imagine dealing with the I'm not going to go 209 00:14:20.000 --> 00:14:24.080 deal. He's not going to go coach in college there unless he goes to 210 00:14:24.159 --> 00:14:26.279 like I heard something, unless he goes like a Division III school or something 211 00:14:26.279 --> 00:14:30.120 like and just wants to coach for the sake of coaching to have something to 212 00:14:30.200 --> 00:14:33.159 do, right, But he's not going to go coach. He's not going 213 00:14:33.159 --> 00:14:37.840 to coach you know I or Penn State or you know somebody like that. 214 00:14:37.919 --> 00:14:41.840 Who you know who needs a coach Washington State or cal No, not when 215 00:14:41.919 --> 00:14:43.679 the rosters or somebody who just made the point of Yesteray they're trying to get 216 00:14:43.679 --> 00:14:48.759 out to be a price. Yes, yep, okay, we gotta go 217 00:14:48.960 --> 00:14:50.639 you anymore? Oh that was all I had? All right right here, 218 00:14:52.080 --> 00:14:54.799 Matt Mulbach will be coming up. 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Let Arizona Pest Control get rid of your bad bugs, termites, 284 00:19:36.640 --> 00:19:40.920 bees, or rodents serving Tucson and Southern Arizona since nineteen forty seven. Go 285 00:19:41.000 --> 00:19:47.799 to azpest dot com to schedule your free evaluation today. Steve Rivera and Jacob 286 00:19:47.880 --> 00:19:53.160 Solis they have their Eye on the ball on Tucson's sports station CHET Fox Sports 287 00:19:53.200 --> 00:19:57.200 fourteen fifteen. Hey, welcome back to Joining the Buck here know Fox Sports 288 00:19:57.200 --> 00:20:02.480 fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera Agan. Now when the phone we had Melba 289 00:20:02.839 --> 00:20:04.839 Matt meil Buck who has his eye on the ball as well. How you 290 00:20:04.839 --> 00:20:10.400 doing that? I'm doing awesome. How you guys doing Friday? Happy Friday? 291 00:20:10.759 --> 00:20:11.960 You're busy? You were at the game last night? Uh? What 292 00:20:12.039 --> 00:20:15.680 were you gonna ask him? Out of fun? How did you spend the 293 00:20:15.720 --> 00:20:19.440 eight minutes that you were not on? Oh? Yeah, how yeah, 294 00:20:19.799 --> 00:20:25.200 I'm sorry. I didn't really do much. I watched the game and and 295 00:20:25.359 --> 00:20:30.079 somebody uh then I then I looked at Twitter. Somebody suggested I, uh, 296 00:20:30.359 --> 00:20:33.000 I live stream, and so I started to live stream and then we 297 00:20:33.039 --> 00:20:36.480 popped back on. So did you so you knew you knew you were off 298 00:20:36.480 --> 00:20:40.240 the air? But that did you you knew you were off the air? 299 00:20:41.920 --> 00:20:45.359 I didn't know at first. I think it took a minute or so. 300 00:20:45.599 --> 00:20:52.759 Our our monitors, I think they called me ISO monitors pros and I still 301 00:20:52.799 --> 00:20:57.920 not heard. My understanding was the power went out somewhere well, so like 302 00:20:57.920 --> 00:21:02.880 like like like in a huge way like either in San Ramon or somewhere else 303 00:21:03.279 --> 00:21:06.920 where the feed was was being sent. So well, you know that the 304 00:21:07.319 --> 00:21:10.680 joke was that the Pac club didn't pay its power bill. That was the 305 00:21:10.759 --> 00:21:15.079 joke. Well, I'll tell you, you know, I get it. 306 00:21:15.200 --> 00:21:18.400 You know, the PAC twelve has been a punching bag for sure. But 307 00:21:18.559 --> 00:21:23.960 the sad part of the unfortunate part is the one thing that the PAC twelve 308 00:21:23.960 --> 00:21:29.440 has had. People don't realize this, but and ironically, this is why 309 00:21:29.599 --> 00:21:33.960 the whole power going out was ironic because the production value has been top notch. 310 00:21:34.279 --> 00:21:40.960 You know, we have yeah, really good announcers, incredible like truck 311 00:21:41.039 --> 00:21:45.400 people and back end people and you know, producers, directors, the whole 312 00:21:45.440 --> 00:21:48.839 thing, camera people. Like it's as good as any as anybody. Now, 313 00:21:48.839 --> 00:21:52.599 we don't have the resources that you know, Monday Night Football has or 314 00:21:52.640 --> 00:21:56.640 something like that. But you know, but that's that's what was so frustrating, 315 00:21:56.799 --> 00:22:00.960 is like we've done such a good job from a production standpoint that then 316 00:22:02.000 --> 00:22:04.880 that went out Unfortunately. It's sort of bad luck. Yeah, are you 317 00:22:04.960 --> 00:22:10.319 do you already have plans for what's gonna happen with you after this year? 318 00:22:11.480 --> 00:22:15.839 Yeah? You know, I've been talking to both ESPN Box and UH and 319 00:22:17.519 --> 00:22:19.480 certainly talking about you know what it would look like next Sure, I actually 320 00:22:19.920 --> 00:22:22.759 I just did. As you know, Steve, if you helped me, 321 00:22:22.799 --> 00:22:26.000 thanks for helping me out by the way, you helped me out on some 322 00:22:26.119 --> 00:22:30.839 of my knowledge and info in the five oh five in Albuquerque. I did 323 00:22:30.839 --> 00:22:37.599 a I did a reno at New Mexico game last Sunday, which is a 324 00:22:37.599 --> 00:22:41.640 great game, by the way, really really important game for the Mountain West. 325 00:22:41.720 --> 00:22:45.680 Is good and there's some good teams, and I've got a couple of 326 00:22:45.799 --> 00:22:48.400 f S one games coming up with Arizona, so it's gonna be nice. 327 00:22:48.440 --> 00:22:53.119 I got the Arizona State at Arizona game, and I've got the what is 328 00:22:53.160 --> 00:22:56.359 it Washington State at Arizona game on f S one, so you know, 329 00:22:56.480 --> 00:22:59.920 kind of getting my foot in the door there, which is which is kind 330 00:22:59.920 --> 00:23:02.960 of the plan for next year. All right, So you were on the 331 00:23:03.000 --> 00:23:07.559 call last night, just general impressions, what you saw compared to what you've 332 00:23:07.599 --> 00:23:14.000 been seeing from Arizona. Well, I thought the Oregon game was the was 333 00:23:14.039 --> 00:23:18.319 the most important game of the year. Like it just felt like they weren't 334 00:23:18.359 --> 00:23:22.720 themselves the last few weeks. They had some weird results. Obviously, Stanford 335 00:23:22.759 --> 00:23:26.759 shot it well on the road. You know, they didn't look good at 336 00:23:26.839 --> 00:23:29.240 a couple of times. And then the Oregon State game was you know, 337 00:23:30.440 --> 00:23:33.359 even if you play bad, you figure that the game Arizona wins. But 338 00:23:33.519 --> 00:23:37.480 Oregon State hit a ton of shots. I think they hit like kind I 339 00:23:37.519 --> 00:23:40.559 want to. I can't remember the exact stat but it was like seven shots 340 00:23:41.440 --> 00:23:45.799 under five seconds of the shot clock. They also found Oregon State I think 341 00:23:45.880 --> 00:23:49.319 like five to seven times under five seconds to the shot clock. So, 342 00:23:51.319 --> 00:23:53.920 you know, I'm not sure the game was was really it was a little 343 00:23:53.920 --> 00:23:57.160 bit of a you know, unfortunate game for them. But I thought Orgon 344 00:23:57.279 --> 00:24:00.359 was incredible and I thought they carried it over last night. To answer your 345 00:24:00.400 --> 00:24:06.400 question, Jay, it just felt like the momentum was really good. I 346 00:24:06.480 --> 00:24:08.759 thought they were as connected last night as I've seen them all year. Yeah, 347 00:24:10.119 --> 00:24:11.599 no question, all right, you totally agree with you. What do 348 00:24:11.640 --> 00:24:18.920 you what do you like most about them? You know, I think they 349 00:24:18.960 --> 00:24:25.920 have eight really good players. I don't think this team has a you know, 350 00:24:26.519 --> 00:24:30.680 Sean Elliott or a Mike Bibbie or a Derek Williams per se, but 351 00:24:32.400 --> 00:24:36.759 you know what it does have is eight really good players, and you can 352 00:24:36.799 --> 00:24:41.960 make an argument all eight of those guys they will be playing professional basketball after 353 00:24:41.960 --> 00:24:45.480 they're done. Where I don't know, like, you know, are there 354 00:24:45.480 --> 00:24:49.920 a few NBA guys possibly are there some European players. I think that left 355 00:24:49.920 --> 00:24:53.240 to see whether all shakes out. But I just think they're They're really good 356 00:24:53.359 --> 00:24:56.880 at every position and deep, you know, eight guys deep. On top 357 00:24:56.960 --> 00:25:02.160 of that, I would say that I do love their size. I mean, 358 00:25:02.160 --> 00:25:06.119 they have that really good size. They can really hurt you inside. 359 00:25:06.960 --> 00:25:08.799 And I guess the third thing I would say, I mean just there's a 360 00:25:08.799 --> 00:25:12.640 bunch of things. I mean I love Caleb Love is a go to alpha 361 00:25:15.279 --> 00:25:17.920 and I think, you know, we haven't seen a guy probably like that 362 00:25:17.960 --> 00:25:22.480 since Derreck Williams that was that kind of well actually been Mather, and I 363 00:25:22.519 --> 00:25:26.640 would Matrons started to become that by his you know, that second year, 364 00:25:26.759 --> 00:25:30.119 especially towards the end of the year. But I love what he does in 365 00:25:30.160 --> 00:25:32.799 big games, and he showed it in the Oregon game. He showed it 366 00:25:32.839 --> 00:25:37.000 in the Duke game. And I think going into the NCEBLA tournament, that's 367 00:25:37.039 --> 00:25:41.119 the kind of guy you want. Yeah, no, I hear, you 368 00:25:41.160 --> 00:25:45.400 know, we were talking earlier about the fact that and what Tommy said was 369 00:25:45.400 --> 00:25:48.799 that it was nice to see. And I think it was a question from 370 00:25:48.839 --> 00:25:49.759 Steve, so I've got to give him credit for that. It was nice 371 00:25:49.759 --> 00:25:56.839 to see Arizona, you know, play so well and dominate in the game 372 00:25:56.880 --> 00:26:00.359 where Caleb Love didn't have to go off for twenty five points or thirty points 373 00:26:00.400 --> 00:26:04.319 that you know it, you know, everybody got in on it. Now, 374 00:26:04.400 --> 00:26:07.960 I think that's a great point. And you know, it leads me 375 00:26:08.000 --> 00:26:12.160 to another thing I like about them, which is they have a great balance 376 00:26:12.519 --> 00:26:17.200 of older guys and younger guys. You know, you think you think of 377 00:26:17.319 --> 00:26:22.319 Caleb, you think of a key shot who played the national championship game, 378 00:26:22.440 --> 00:26:26.680 Kela Larson has played a ton of games. And then you know, you 379 00:26:26.799 --> 00:26:30.960 really mix that in with some young studs and and because of that, to 380 00:26:32.000 --> 00:26:33.920 that point, you know, all those guys, almost every guy in the 381 00:26:33.960 --> 00:26:38.680 top eight can score twenty points, right, that's really rare, you know 382 00:26:38.799 --> 00:26:45.319 along across college basketball. Yeah, no question, but you talked about this 383 00:26:45.319 --> 00:26:48.799 this You may have just answered my question. But do you think you need 384 00:26:48.839 --> 00:26:52.759 a guy like Sean Elliott or Mike Bibby or or a kolid reeves to kind 385 00:26:52.759 --> 00:26:56.160 of take control, and you have that in Caleb a little, but you 386 00:26:56.240 --> 00:27:00.440 said they didn't have one, that you need a guy like that to guide 387 00:27:00.480 --> 00:27:04.400 them in the tournament. I think you do. I think you do, 388 00:27:04.480 --> 00:27:07.839 like I think historically, I mean, I think you need an alpha. 389 00:27:08.200 --> 00:27:15.079 And you know, Miles Simon wasn't as we know it wasn't Sean Elliott or 390 00:27:15.160 --> 00:27:19.000 might be in terms of the draft and the NBA success right, but in 391 00:27:19.160 --> 00:27:23.799 college he was. And so I think you need that at the college level 392 00:27:23.799 --> 00:27:26.680 at least. I don't know, you know what Kayla's going to do after 393 00:27:26.759 --> 00:27:30.359 and you know where he ends up. You know, is he a pro? 394 00:27:30.559 --> 00:27:33.480 Is he a ten year pros he not a pro like we'll see. 395 00:27:33.079 --> 00:27:38.559 I certainly think athletically he can be, and he gets to the rim when 396 00:27:38.559 --> 00:27:42.640 he wants to. He really can defend way more athletic than I ever thought 397 00:27:42.640 --> 00:27:45.519 he was, you know, watching him the last couple of years. But 398 00:27:45.720 --> 00:27:48.559 I do think you need to go to guy like like we saw. Look, 399 00:27:48.599 --> 00:27:53.000 Derek Williams took that like literally willed that team over Duke and the whatever 400 00:27:53.039 --> 00:27:57.279 that was the fifteen years. You know, Bibby, Bibby, well, 401 00:27:57.359 --> 00:28:02.200 Simon the year they won it, right, you had those go to guys 402 00:28:02.240 --> 00:28:06.079 and reads Instadham. I are ninety four. You know, we had Elliott 403 00:28:06.359 --> 00:28:08.599 in eighty eight with all the other good players. So I mean, if 404 00:28:08.640 --> 00:28:11.519 I go through, I have I have kind of like a top five or 405 00:28:11.559 --> 00:28:17.079 six things you need to make a final four, and and one of them 406 00:28:17.160 --> 00:28:21.160 is you got to have pro players. I mean, you know, historically 407 00:28:22.000 --> 00:28:25.759 having two, three, four multiple pro players is at the top of the 408 00:28:25.799 --> 00:28:29.839 list. And they don't have to be NBA players. You're just saying pro 409 00:28:29.839 --> 00:28:34.400 players. Well, I guess I am saying NBA like I'm not saying, 410 00:28:34.680 --> 00:28:40.079 you know, three three guys that could play in Australia. I think I 411 00:28:40.079 --> 00:28:41.440 think you need a couple of NBA players, and I think there are there 412 00:28:41.480 --> 00:28:45.119 are a couple of NBA players on our team. The crazy thing about it, 413 00:28:45.200 --> 00:28:51.359 I'm not sure I have in my mind to guarantee NBA players, right, 414 00:28:51.559 --> 00:28:52.519 you know, I think I think, like I said, I think 415 00:28:52.559 --> 00:28:56.599 there's eight guys. You could make an argument at some point you can play 416 00:28:56.599 --> 00:28:59.880 in the NBA, you know, and we'll just see, We'll have to 417 00:28:59.880 --> 00:29:02.119 say, see how they developed. I think, you know, it might 418 00:29:02.119 --> 00:29:04.200 even make the argument kJ Lewis is at the top of that list and he 419 00:29:04.279 --> 00:29:10.880 comes off the bench. So it's a it's a pretty talented team. It's 420 00:29:11.000 --> 00:29:12.720 just like in the past, like I said, they weren't there weren't guys 421 00:29:12.759 --> 00:29:18.039 who just said okay, Elliott's and the pros, you know, and I 422 00:29:18.039 --> 00:29:19.759 guess after that we didn't really know an eighty eight and who the other pros 423 00:29:19.759 --> 00:29:23.039 were. You know, it wasn't a guarantee that Kerr or or a Cook 424 00:29:23.200 --> 00:29:27.039 or or I guess Cook probably was at that time. But you know, 425 00:29:27.079 --> 00:29:32.079 in two thousand and one, we knew, we knew for sure that Mike 426 00:29:32.119 --> 00:29:34.440 Bibby was a pro. You know, we knew Jason Terry was, we 427 00:29:34.519 --> 00:29:40.079 knew Michael Dickerson was, and we probably knew you know, Lauren Woods was. 428 00:29:40.599 --> 00:29:45.000 Yeah. Interesting now, I yeah, you know, And you make 429 00:29:45.039 --> 00:29:48.240 a great point about the eight because I think people fans and look fans, 430 00:29:48.359 --> 00:29:53.640 they're twisted anyways, and we know that. But I keep I keep ragging 431 00:29:53.680 --> 00:29:56.559 on him, you know, But but when you see that, yes, 432 00:29:56.640 --> 00:30:00.359 Caleb Love, you know, he's had this stretch of game where he's, 433 00:30:00.359 --> 00:30:04.079 as you say, he's he's been the Alpha. But you know, you 434 00:30:04.119 --> 00:30:08.400 know what, what we saw, at least definitely earlier in the season was 435 00:30:08.400 --> 00:30:12.079 that they were good all over the place. And as you say, you 436 00:30:12.119 --> 00:30:17.039 know, if there's eight guys, to me, that's a all have a 437 00:30:17.079 --> 00:30:21.680 lot harder to play against than a team that's got one or two guys. 438 00:30:22.720 --> 00:30:25.400 Yeah, no, no, no, no question about it. And and 439 00:30:25.440 --> 00:30:29.119 we saw last night, like like you you guys pointed out Caleb didn't really 440 00:30:29.160 --> 00:30:32.759 they need him, and they it was it was a pretty pretty easy game. 441 00:30:32.799 --> 00:30:34.319 They just played so well as a team. I thought key Shot looked 442 00:30:34.359 --> 00:30:37.559 really good, followed look as good as I've seen him. He just looked 443 00:30:37.559 --> 00:30:41.839 dominant in the post. And Caleb, you gotta go back to when he 444 00:30:41.880 --> 00:30:45.440 had thirty six at Oregon. I really felt like he did that within the 445 00:30:45.480 --> 00:30:48.680 offense. I mean, he didn't really do anything that was you know, 446 00:30:48.720 --> 00:30:52.880 you thought, oh, he's just taking over and you know, hogging the 447 00:30:52.920 --> 00:30:56.480 ball. It was it was a nice you know rhythm that he had a 448 00:30:56.559 --> 00:30:59.279 nice pace. And I'll tell you what, that's the other thing what I 449 00:30:59.279 --> 00:31:04.319 do love about telling me is he really does a good job of constantly reminding 450 00:31:04.319 --> 00:31:08.440 those guys that it's about team and pass the ball, move the ball. 451 00:31:08.599 --> 00:31:14.599 You know, it's the moment he senses somebody's getting out of the team concept. 452 00:31:14.720 --> 00:31:18.559 He gets on him and he is He is a really good you know, 453 00:31:18.880 --> 00:31:22.519 you know meter for that and understanding where that when that comes up. 454 00:31:22.960 --> 00:31:26.119 No, it's interesting you say that because we are as we watch the game, 455 00:31:26.799 --> 00:31:30.680 we see Caleb with the ball, and heck, we can either go 456 00:31:30.720 --> 00:31:33.079 fifty to fifty that he's going to take the shot or not take the shot, 457 00:31:33.119 --> 00:31:40.559 because I'm betting he's taking that shot. What that I lost that I 458 00:31:40.599 --> 00:31:42.519 bet that he'd be taking the shot that Caleb Yeah, you know, he 459 00:31:42.839 --> 00:31:47.039 talks about you know, he tells Caleb this. But but if I'm betting 460 00:31:47.039 --> 00:31:51.160 that Caleb is going to have the ball and at any point in the in 461 00:31:51.279 --> 00:31:53.440 the possession, that he's the one that's going to take the shot because he 462 00:31:53.480 --> 00:31:59.319 wants to take the shot, he does, and he's he's ultra aggressive. 463 00:31:59.519 --> 00:32:04.880 He's a he's a born scorer. I mean, he's I kind of when 464 00:32:04.920 --> 00:32:07.680 I saw him originally, I didn't see enough of him. I thought he 465 00:32:07.720 --> 00:32:12.880 was a shooter and he's not. He's a score. He gets to the 466 00:32:13.000 --> 00:32:16.759 rim, he finishes, he does shoot it. He's not afraid to shoot, 467 00:32:16.759 --> 00:32:22.200 you know, a twenty eight footer. But and and but he just 468 00:32:22.319 --> 00:32:27.039 he hunts his points. He hunts shots. Yeah, I didn't tell me 469 00:32:27.039 --> 00:32:30.839 he used that word last night and he was not hunting shots because because no, 470 00:32:30.920 --> 00:32:32.960 that was last that was Saturday, that he did not hunt shots. 471 00:32:34.440 --> 00:32:36.920 No, No, Once he gets the ball, same with Bradley Man. 472 00:32:36.960 --> 00:32:38.480 When you get Bradley the ball, you may not get that ball back. 473 00:32:39.880 --> 00:32:43.880 They well, I'll tell you. I'll tell you something about Caleb that's pretty 474 00:32:43.880 --> 00:32:47.400 interesting. Last year he was one to one assist ratio and this year I 475 00:32:47.400 --> 00:32:51.599 don't have in front of me. He's not two to one, but he's 476 00:32:51.640 --> 00:32:55.440 he's getting close to two to one. And he's a he's an extremely willing 477 00:32:55.559 --> 00:33:00.240 passer. It's it's just that he has also no problem you know, being 478 00:33:00.319 --> 00:33:04.960 He's aggressive, right, and he's going to take it and if the opportunity 479 00:33:05.000 --> 00:33:07.200 is there, he's gonna shoot it. If not, he'll get rid of 480 00:33:07.200 --> 00:33:13.599 it. You know, he'll he'll he'll find guys and I just I really 481 00:33:13.759 --> 00:33:16.519 just like watching him this year. He's been an awesome addition. So they 482 00:33:16.559 --> 00:33:21.000 got Stanford. I think he's probably the player of the year so far. 483 00:33:21.079 --> 00:33:22.359 Now we got a long ways to go, right, It's hard to say 484 00:33:22.400 --> 00:33:27.440 that, you know, early early February, but you know, at this 485 00:33:27.559 --> 00:33:29.880 point, to me, he's been the pack call player of the year. 486 00:33:30.119 --> 00:33:32.160 Well, and there's quite a distance between Arizona and the rest of the packings. 487 00:33:32.400 --> 00:33:35.519 In spite of the fact that they're, you know, in a bunch 488 00:33:35.920 --> 00:33:37.440 at the top of the at the top of the standings, you just still 489 00:33:37.480 --> 00:33:43.519 feel like Arizona's just way better than the rest of the league. Yeah, 490 00:33:43.559 --> 00:33:47.319 I mean, I think Colorado at home, you taugh at home? Right, 491 00:33:47.440 --> 00:33:51.640 I think I thought Oregon, you know, there was a there was 492 00:33:51.680 --> 00:33:54.160 a question in my mind could Oregon be just as good as Arizona because they 493 00:33:54.160 --> 00:33:59.240 have really talented players. And that's why I go back to that game last 494 00:33:59.279 --> 00:34:01.720 Saturday. I thought it was in a way the biggest game of the year. 495 00:34:02.759 --> 00:34:07.400 Yeah, yeah, okay, Well, I appreciate your time as always. 496 00:34:08.679 --> 00:34:14.079 Hey, thank you guys, Try and stay busy. Man, great 497 00:34:14.119 --> 00:34:17.079 coverage team, Man, what what do you guys think of this team where 498 00:34:17.079 --> 00:34:22.239 they're at right now? Don't ask Steve He's he's a downer. Steve's he's 499 00:34:22.239 --> 00:34:24.599 a big downer. We don't ask him questions like that. He'll he'll find 500 00:34:24.760 --> 00:34:28.360 he'll find something bad to say. You know, it's the hot girl with 501 00:34:28.400 --> 00:34:34.239 a blemish on her nose. Wait, that's that's that's Sidney Crawfords, the 502 00:34:34.280 --> 00:34:37.880 little on the side of her cheek. Well, in that case, they're 503 00:34:37.920 --> 00:34:47.480 doing really well. Thanks. Thanks, you have a great weekend. Yeah, 504 00:34:47.559 --> 00:34:51.320 I'm not gonna let you answer that question because you'll just you'll just rag 505 00:34:51.360 --> 00:34:54.039 on something and then you go to flowery. Oh, there's you know, 506 00:34:54.440 --> 00:34:58.960 I'm gonna find that balance. All right, Okay, let's take our last 507 00:34:59.000 --> 00:35:01.840 break. We're gonna come back and we'll take your cost there four one, 508 00:35:01.920 --> 00:35:06.280 six, seventy four forty you know, I you know, I'd like to 509 00:35:06.360 --> 00:35:09.679 know out there, who are the revenge people right who want to kick somebody's 510 00:35:09.679 --> 00:35:14.320 ass because they kicked yours. You're one, I'm one. I absolutely am 511 00:35:14.320 --> 00:35:15.920 one. I hold those gradues up, stick around, we'll be right back. 512 00:35:23.800 --> 00:35:27.760 If you're an Arizona men's basketball fan, you know it's been successful for 513 00:35:27.800 --> 00:35:30.280 nearly forty years. Now. Take a look back at the Ludolsen era in 514 00:35:30.360 --> 00:35:32.920 my new book, Lessons from Loot. 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Steve Rivera and 554 00:38:28.320 --> 00:38:34.639 Jagon Salez they have their Eye on the Ball on Tucson's sports stag chef Fox 555 00:38:34.679 --> 00:38:39.559 Sports fourteen to fifty streaming live IM the iHeartRadio app. Hey, welcome back 556 00:38:39.599 --> 00:38:43.679 to Eye on the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, 557 00:38:43.760 --> 00:38:46.280 He's jacin zaw Scutder guys sid for thirteen minutes. If you want to 558 00:38:46.320 --> 00:38:54.840 call us and talk about being spiteful, that's spiteful. Just enjoy revenge? 559 00:38:55.440 --> 00:38:59.760 Spite? What's the word for that? Give us a call five to two 560 00:38:59.800 --> 00:39:04.760 zero four, one forty. If you're of like minded Jay here, you'd 561 00:39:04.760 --> 00:39:07.480 be pissed and you want to kill Stanford? Yeah, I mean, why 562 00:39:07.519 --> 00:39:12.960 not? Right? No, Steve, No, just win baby. But 563 00:39:13.039 --> 00:39:15.760 I get it. I get it. I think that they are going to 564 00:39:15.800 --> 00:39:19.159 do that. We won't know this spread until Sunday or Saturday night, but 565 00:39:19.239 --> 00:39:22.079 I think they're gonna be ready. You'd like to think that they would be. 566 00:39:23.639 --> 00:39:28.119 I mean, yes, you know it is it wasted energy? Probably? 567 00:39:28.639 --> 00:39:30.159 I think if I had a chance to ask Tommy and I should have 568 00:39:30.199 --> 00:39:34.239 asked them this question. Anyway. Okay, so we know one of the 569 00:39:34.280 --> 00:39:37.840 deficiencies once this team happened, right because we didn't have we didn't have any 570 00:39:37.880 --> 00:39:40.639 idea of what the flaws were. Then we see them. It's defending the 571 00:39:40.679 --> 00:39:44.760 perimeter. Blah blah blah. And they have pretty good players, right, 572 00:39:44.920 --> 00:39:49.840 yeah, pretty good players. How difficult? Tellmy, we saw what happened, 573 00:39:50.079 --> 00:39:52.360 and it's happened a few times. How difficult is it to defend on 574 00:39:52.440 --> 00:39:58.920 the perimeter. I'm sure you'll become a little stark starky again. But but 575 00:39:58.920 --> 00:40:01.679 but effort, man, Okay, don't you think that they would have that? 576 00:40:04.519 --> 00:40:07.199 You would think, right, No, you would think, but that's 577 00:40:07.239 --> 00:40:12.719 solvable. Yes, it is solvable because you either show the effort to get 578 00:40:12.719 --> 00:40:15.679 the hell out of the game exactly. And we've seen at least three games. 579 00:40:15.719 --> 00:40:19.519 Yeah, when the four games? Probably when was the first one of 580 00:40:19.599 --> 00:40:23.440 Purdue of Florida, Atlantic, Stanford, Stanford, Oregon State and Oregon State. 581 00:40:23.519 --> 00:40:27.760 Yeah. So if you don't have the it's all about effort, you 582 00:40:27.800 --> 00:40:30.320 think, I think it is. See, but you're not Tommy, So 583 00:40:30.360 --> 00:40:35.920 I can't really look. I don't think Tommy is running a system, running 584 00:40:35.920 --> 00:40:39.159 a defense that can't cover the perimeter. I think if they're not covering the 585 00:40:39.159 --> 00:40:43.639 perimeter, it's because the guys aren't put in the effort to government community. 586 00:40:44.320 --> 00:40:49.800 You know. I don't think Tommy gets out coached from the standpoint where it's 587 00:40:49.880 --> 00:40:53.000 a glaring like that that he didn't know what to do against Stanford. I 588 00:40:53.000 --> 00:40:55.320 think he knew what to do, they just didn't do it. I'm I'm 589 00:40:55.559 --> 00:40:59.440 okay. I know that you're right that he's not getting out coached as far 590 00:40:59.480 --> 00:41:05.719 as I know now. But one time, two times, three times he's 591 00:41:05.760 --> 00:41:08.960 getting he's not he's not coaching well enough to get his guys to do what 592 00:41:09.039 --> 00:41:12.840 he needs them to do. And that's what he says. It's on me, 593 00:41:13.280 --> 00:41:15.679 right, I got to get these guys to you know, But I 594 00:41:15.719 --> 00:41:19.800 don't think what he's designed it's not so much schematic, right, it's it's 595 00:41:19.840 --> 00:41:24.239 what he's designed as a defense I don't think is the issue. It's the 596 00:41:24.360 --> 00:41:29.440 issue of the buying effort and and and going out there and doing that. 597 00:41:29.679 --> 00:41:35.519 And that's all part of exactly exactly. But when I say he's not getting 598 00:41:35.519 --> 00:41:38.280 our coach from a standpoint of he can't figure out what to do, he 599 00:41:38.800 --> 00:41:43.719 knows what to do, figuring out how to get his guys to do that 600 00:41:44.039 --> 00:41:45.679 game in and game out. He doesn't know that they're paying more than three 601 00:41:45.679 --> 00:41:51.119 mini they're paid, right, And and when you've got you know, you 602 00:41:51.159 --> 00:41:54.840 know, these these young guys who for whatever reason, you know, lose 603 00:41:54.920 --> 00:42:00.360 track of what the hell they're supposed to be doing. Yeah, you know 604 00:42:00.360 --> 00:42:02.280 you're gonna get beat or you're gonna have a tough time with that. We've 605 00:42:02.320 --> 00:42:06.719 seen, I know it's called recency bias. And we see this and the 606 00:42:06.800 --> 00:42:09.639 kids in the in the press room, our kids, you know you're going 607 00:42:09.679 --> 00:42:14.119 to and their kids, they know what happened yesterday, maybe five years ago. 608 00:42:14.440 --> 00:42:16.599 This has been going on for years, and I've talked about it all 609 00:42:16.639 --> 00:42:21.559 the time. I started covering the team for Religiously in ninety one, and 610 00:42:21.639 --> 00:42:23.440 I've seen it all over. How do you else do you explain East Tennessee 611 00:42:23.480 --> 00:42:29.880 State? How else do you play Santa Clara? Exactly? They just it's 612 00:42:29.920 --> 00:42:32.559 not that the universe running. It's not that they weren't ready. They just 613 00:42:32.679 --> 00:42:37.840 didn't. They didn't go out there and do what they're exactly capable of doing. 614 00:42:37.960 --> 00:42:43.360 Exactly, And it's simple as defending. Yes, it is. It 615 00:42:43.440 --> 00:42:46.000 really is. I mean all those games that they lost or because they didn't 616 00:42:46.039 --> 00:42:49.519 have the offense to win the game, Sure they lost those games. The 617 00:42:49.559 --> 00:42:52.840 players, they didn't go out and do the work. The hardest thing to 618 00:42:52.920 --> 00:42:59.519 do is to play defense. You know in college basketball, right, everybody 619 00:42:59.519 --> 00:43:01.239 can go out there and dribble and shoot and score and have fun doing that. 620 00:43:02.000 --> 00:43:05.880 But you got to do the thing on the other side. And and 621 00:43:06.079 --> 00:43:09.239 that's the hard part. That's the part where you got to grind and want 622 00:43:09.239 --> 00:43:15.119 to be able to do that some players and some programs take pride in the 623 00:43:15.119 --> 00:43:20.000 defense that they play. There's don't. I think Tommy's kind of in between, 624 00:43:20.000 --> 00:43:22.800 and that they have so much fun on the offensive side of the ball. 625 00:43:22.280 --> 00:43:27.400 I think they take they're a little pride in their defense because it helps 626 00:43:27.400 --> 00:43:30.880 them do what they want to do offensive so much what they do offensively depends 627 00:43:30.880 --> 00:43:35.519 on what they do defensively. But there are games, there have been games 628 00:43:35.960 --> 00:43:38.920 where that thing hasn't clicked in a specific game. Yeah, and you talk 629 00:43:38.960 --> 00:43:43.079 about that, and I also talk about okay, who we got this week 630 00:43:43.440 --> 00:43:47.119 Stanford the first time. Okay, right, we'll be ready. We got 631 00:43:47.119 --> 00:43:51.280 this, we got no, no, exactly exactly we got this. And 632 00:43:51.559 --> 00:43:55.079 when you realize that have time, Oh crap, we may not got this. 633 00:43:55.400 --> 00:44:00.639 Yeah. Now by that time you've already been slapped around. If that 634 00:44:00.719 --> 00:44:04.000 happens at halftime, it's too late, very much so, because you can't 635 00:44:04.039 --> 00:44:07.119 just recreate. But by that time, the other team's got their confidence up, 636 00:44:07.159 --> 00:44:12.400 they're playing well, and they're on the court thinking we can beat you. 637 00:44:12.440 --> 00:44:15.559 And that's half the battle. Yes, except for one example already this 638 00:44:15.639 --> 00:44:19.079 year U c l A. Right when they didn't show up in the first 639 00:44:19.079 --> 00:44:22.159 half and they work their butt off, But again, what was the difference 640 00:44:22.159 --> 00:44:25.880 there defense that you know that game was at Michale, Oh, when they 641 00:44:25.920 --> 00:44:30.719 had to turn on the turn on the defensive Spigott they did, and he 642 00:44:30.800 --> 00:44:36.519 talked about that right when they when they had to turn it on and realize 643 00:44:36.760 --> 00:44:38.199 we're gonna lose a game at home to freaking u c l A. The 644 00:44:38.280 --> 00:44:42.800 last time we're gonna play him here, they they turn and they were able 645 00:44:42.840 --> 00:44:45.000 to do that. That's harder to do when you're playing in front of five 646 00:44:45.039 --> 00:44:47.840 thousand people, you know, at at an arena. You know, I 647 00:44:47.960 --> 00:44:52.000 watched u c l A game they played organ Stic the night they beat organ 648 00:44:52.000 --> 00:44:55.320 State. It was Wednesday night. There was nobody there even if you see 649 00:44:57.239 --> 00:45:01.199 the game, Like, guys, guess what. People are not going to 650 00:45:01.280 --> 00:45:06.079 worry in the Big ten. Are not going to be intimidated by coming to 651 00:45:06.079 --> 00:45:09.360 play at u c l A. You know, And and there were six 652 00:45:09.440 --> 00:45:15.519 seven, maybe eight thousand people at this game. Like so you know, 653 00:45:15.079 --> 00:45:19.039 you're you see, now, if Arizona's at UCLA, the place is gonna 654 00:45:19.039 --> 00:45:22.800 be full. But if Arizona does at u c l A what it did 655 00:45:22.800 --> 00:45:24.440 here, they're gonna lose the game. Yeah, okay, so you say 656 00:45:24.480 --> 00:45:28.880 again, last night was last night against Rogan State and they struggled last night. 657 00:45:28.960 --> 00:45:30.480 Yeah, I'm thinking, where was I? But I was because I 658 00:45:30.519 --> 00:45:32.159 was, Oh, you're right, you're right, you're right. I got 659 00:45:32.159 --> 00:45:35.599 home. By the time I got home, the a SCU game was over. 660 00:45:35.840 --> 00:45:38.159 I listened to that on on on on my phone in my car on 661 00:45:38.159 --> 00:45:40.199 the way home. Then I got home and I put on the UC. 662 00:45:42.079 --> 00:45:44.920 It was a glose, was tied. It was tied at fifty four at 663 00:45:44.920 --> 00:45:46.199 one point. That's why when you said two this, I thought it was 664 00:45:46.280 --> 00:45:49.559 Wednesday night. I said, that wasn't real. It was last night, 665 00:45:49.880 --> 00:45:52.920 agains Steve. That's you know. I got up when I was puttering around, 666 00:45:52.960 --> 00:46:00.440 you know, could you help us across the street. There had lunch 667 00:46:00.519 --> 00:46:02.239 on the way over here, and I remember what it was, so it 668 00:46:02.280 --> 00:46:07.320 was burgers. Yeah. Uh, you know, okay, if you guys 669 00:46:07.320 --> 00:46:08.960 want to call in, please do we still have a little time five to 670 00:46:09.119 --> 00:46:15.800 zero four one six seventy four forty game on Sunday? Women play as well 671 00:46:15.800 --> 00:46:21.920 that day. They got a su at noon at noon on maybe with maybe 672 00:46:22.400 --> 00:46:25.639 you know what I saw TCU did this? Yeah, because they forfeited a 673 00:46:25.639 --> 00:46:30.039 couple of gags. They forfeited a couple of games they didn't have, they 674 00:46:30.039 --> 00:46:32.599 were out of players. Just take this call. Hi are on the air 675 00:46:32.599 --> 00:46:37.320 and I on the ball. Hey guys, this is done. How you 676 00:46:37.320 --> 00:46:42.199 guys are doing? What is that done? Save us from ourselves? Say? 677 00:46:42.239 --> 00:46:46.400 Okay, well I want to save j. J is still on that 678 00:46:46.519 --> 00:46:58.519 football sugar high or something. Because which which loss was okay? Washington State, 679 00:47:00.079 --> 00:47:05.719 Oregon State, or Stanford? I think Stanford is the most okayest one. 680 00:47:07.360 --> 00:47:08.519 What do you mean by none of them are okay? What do you 681 00:47:08.519 --> 00:47:14.679 mean by okay? Well, oh, guys, it's not that bad. 682 00:47:14.800 --> 00:47:20.360 It's no deal and blah blah blah. You know, part of playing games 683 00:47:20.440 --> 00:47:24.599 is you win the games you're supposed to win. Yeah, well, I 684 00:47:24.599 --> 00:47:29.960 guess what we were saying, don is that you're going to lose road games. 685 00:47:30.000 --> 00:47:31.840 Now. The three road games that Arizona loss to me were three road 686 00:47:31.840 --> 00:47:36.199 games. If you lose an Oregon, if you lose even at UCLA, 687 00:47:37.639 --> 00:47:38.280 you know, you go okay. Well, you know, oh you lose 688 00:47:38.320 --> 00:47:43.199 a Colorado or you tell you okay. But the ones that they lost were 689 00:47:43.239 --> 00:47:47.400 not okay. I don't at least, I don't think so. I don't 690 00:47:47.559 --> 00:47:51.920 well, I don't think so either. I mean, I mean having three 691 00:47:51.960 --> 00:47:55.239 losses in the league. You know, it's part of being in the league 692 00:47:55.280 --> 00:48:00.440 is coaches. Even though the rosters turnover so much much, the coaches know 693 00:48:00.559 --> 00:48:07.840 how each other coaches. So there's that familiarity right there. So you're gonna 694 00:48:07.880 --> 00:48:10.880 get that. But at the same time, if you've got all these guys 695 00:48:10.920 --> 00:48:19.199 that are supposed to be really good, then those those things should not happen, 696 00:48:21.280 --> 00:48:23.800 right, No, I agree, Yeah, I agree, So none 697 00:48:23.840 --> 00:48:30.000 of them are okay. And I because I mean next week when when when 698 00:48:30.039 --> 00:48:32.599 we go to up in the Mountains, I mean, if they split that, 699 00:48:32.920 --> 00:48:38.840 I mean that's gonna be you know what, that's gonna be not expected, 700 00:48:39.079 --> 00:48:43.559 but not a surprise. That will be okay. If they go get 701 00:48:43.599 --> 00:48:45.719 they go get one of two, you know, at two, playing against 702 00:48:45.719 --> 00:48:50.159 two teams that haven't lost their home I think that's as much as you can 703 00:48:50.199 --> 00:48:54.119 expect. Yeah, I agree with that. But if they go up there 704 00:48:54.119 --> 00:48:58.079 and they win both of those, then I would say, okay, they're 705 00:48:58.079 --> 00:49:01.400 back. I mean, because last night they were up by twenty at the 706 00:49:01.480 --> 00:49:07.599 break and they win by twenty six. That to me is not okay, 707 00:49:08.079 --> 00:49:12.320 Baly, that should have been a thirty thirty two point win, easy, 708 00:49:12.360 --> 00:49:15.679 That should have been six more points at least because of what you saw in 709 00:49:15.719 --> 00:49:20.599 the first half exactly. Yeah. So I don't know if you beat him 710 00:49:20.639 --> 00:49:23.920 in twenty minutes, if you beat him a point a minute in twenty minutes, 711 00:49:25.079 --> 00:49:28.559 I don't disagree. I don't give me beat him by four No, 712 00:49:28.679 --> 00:49:30.559 no, no done. I think that's that's a you know, your eye 713 00:49:30.599 --> 00:49:35.280 test. No, not necessarily, but because because human endeavor, you have 714 00:49:35.320 --> 00:49:37.360 to put that in there. You've already gotten beat, you've already gotten beat. 715 00:49:37.400 --> 00:49:40.079 You're gonna kind of lack, You're gonna, you know, slow down 716 00:49:40.079 --> 00:49:44.440 a little. I understand what you're saying. But it doesn't work that way. 717 00:49:44.639 --> 00:49:50.880 It doesn't work that way. It used to work that way when you 718 00:49:50.960 --> 00:49:54.119 had a roster of you had the guys that were going to be coming up. 719 00:49:54.679 --> 00:49:59.000 And now we don't have that anymore. Don't You have guys that have 720 00:49:59.079 --> 00:50:01.800 been proving themselves all week in practice, and here's their chance to do it 721 00:50:01.840 --> 00:50:07.039 with the lights on. And that's what you don't have. And that's that's 722 00:50:07.079 --> 00:50:09.760 one of the things of the new the new college sports that I don't. 723 00:50:09.840 --> 00:50:13.880 I don't, I don't like. I don't disagree with you, especially here 724 00:50:13.920 --> 00:50:15.880 because when Loot's time and I hate to go back to But that's what I 725 00:50:15.920 --> 00:50:21.800 know that their second team was pretty talented, and that's how they became, 726 00:50:21.880 --> 00:50:24.000 you know, that's how the thing worked. They were the second team. 727 00:50:24.159 --> 00:50:28.000 They got their butt kicked against the first team, and they would be ready 728 00:50:28.000 --> 00:50:30.880 to play in a year or so. So I don't disagree with that philosophy. 729 00:50:31.360 --> 00:50:35.159 But you know, thirty two, okay, you're already beating the by 730 00:50:35.199 --> 00:50:38.400 twenty two. You know, you know that they're in their mind they're not 731 00:50:38.440 --> 00:50:43.280 going to play as hard as they did. Don did you give the points? 732 00:50:43.360 --> 00:50:46.239 Is that? Is that what's going on right here? Or you're worried 733 00:50:46.280 --> 00:50:52.920 about the hiking points spread because you know here here's the story. I was 734 00:50:52.000 --> 00:50:59.320 so excited for sports betting when it came out, and I even downloaded the 735 00:50:59.440 --> 00:51:04.679 MGM, but I never signed up. Yeah, yeah, smart, there's 736 00:51:04.719 --> 00:51:07.239 too much homework to do there, really is now, it's for real. 737 00:51:07.960 --> 00:51:14.679 I was terrible in high school to do homework, so and and then I 738 00:51:14.719 --> 00:51:19.239 could never I could never put money on my own teams because it's too emotional. 739 00:51:19.920 --> 00:51:21.920 I hear it. Hey, don we appreciate it. Man. We 740 00:51:21.960 --> 00:51:22.800 got to get you, got to hit the road. Thanks for the call, 741 00:51:22.840 --> 00:51:30.679 as always, Take care too. You understand what I'm saying. You 742 00:51:30.679 --> 00:51:34.000 can't sustain that when you're up by twenty you come on the second half. 743 00:51:34.000 --> 00:51:37.400 All you're trying to do is let's finish it. Yeah, all right, 744 00:51:37.440 --> 00:51:39.960 let's hit the road. It is another fun week. Thanks Jacob, Jacob, 745 00:51:40.039 --> 00:51:43.800 Jake Fisher, may about for being with us today and everybody else that 746 00:51:43.840 --> 00:51:45.840 we had all week. Follow the pod, listen to it over the weekend 747 00:51:45.840 --> 00:51:58.760 if you missed anything this week, and we'll see you on Monday.