What the bio tracks in the bio. Hello, ladies and gentlemen, welcome
to a geek first review. I'm the clown Prince of three times trussed now
and I'm joined by I'm the same shit, different day. Kirkland Pats are
there you go, lazies, gentlemen. Yes, we are a little delayed.
We had a little excommunicating what one was because you know, kirkla where
where you don't going to say where she went? Where did Well, she's
gone to the island for a couple of days to visit some old high school
friends. Yeah, a little girls trip planned. Yeah, so we're just
gonna do this Friday. But you know, nice guy I am. I'm
like, no, you don't need to do that. Very pleasant. I'm
glad you said that too, because I legit was passing out at like seven
thirty. Like I would not have made the review if we were going to
go at like eight o'clock or what we were both passing out on the on
the couch. There's a mutual hangout of just passing out. Yeah, so
Kirkland and it hitsing together, you know, spend a night together instead of
doing this, like okay, we'll do it on the Saturday and then and
which we are. But we originally this was supposed to be releasing mid day
Saturday, so a couple I think it was Thursday whenever. In our GV
three chat we have on Facebook check out Originals. We're going to soon name
all the different groups in geek Verse. But the one that's just me,
KIRKL and Taylor on our Facebook is Dylan Briggs isn't on there. I feel
like someone else left there. But you know there's Facebook's. It's like the
wasteland, you know. But anyway, so we're talking and Taylor at one
point it's like, oh, I think if you guys do ten am,
I could make it to the Rebel Moon review. Because me and Kirklel we're
going back and forth, and I said, at first it was let's do
ten am on Saturday because the girls will be away. I'll just have Ellie.
If not, she can go to dance stuff, so I'll have some
time. And then yeah, if you do it, then I'll make it.
And then I said, oh, yeah, I can't make it now,
never mind, So then roll around and I said this jokingly, jokingly,
but the problem is a true text. You can't really read the room
through text. Through text, I just thought, after you know, almost
ten years annoying me, someone might get the idea. But that's fine.
There should, as I've always said, there should be a sarcasm font.
I don't know why we haven't created it as a society once social media got
so popular, Like why is it never why has the font never been decided?
This is the sarcasm fault. We're gonna use this from now on,
right, But anyway, So I say that, and then I asked Kirklum
for an eta and me and him just private chat. Got no response there,
and then in the GV three chat, I can't remember where it came
from, but oh, kurkulars, what time you want to review? And
I said, ready, anytime you are And this is like at nine forty,
so I'm like, oh, he's done early, so cool. I'm
ready to jump on. And then he's like, oh, but you said
you can't make it, and I'm like, what is this sky tom bum?
Like I never said that, and then he quoted replied down with an
arrowpoint up. And that's where the miscummunity miscommunication was because I was just joking
saying Oh yeah, I don't want to view at ten because I don't want
Taylor Field in review. But kirkle it took it as a literal. So
in hindsight, I definitely should have maybe even interacted, because then you maybe
have clarified right there. You just like said, yeah, Kirk, I
can't do ten anymore. And like one thing, you never just like say
my name like that in a chat like it did seem strange as opposed to
just either like directly like adding me or something, or just just saying something
quick. It was like, oh, Kirk, I can't do ten anymore,
and it was like replying to Taylor. I was just like, okay,
that was weird, really quick turning events. I'm pretty sure that was
like during just the day too, on Friday, when I was already chaotic
Friday. There this man was looking at our chat six hours apart. We
were getting much information from Kirka bats on Friday. So no, it was.
It was a busy week. But I mean, here we are,
we can probably talk about it. I'm glad we're here together. No Taylor
though, so r ip Taylor. We'll get his thoughts on the geek first,
you know, maybe the next part. Maybe the next part he'll be
able to meet us for ten am at the next The next part are the
extended cuts. That's the thing, you know, who knows. But we
will do a Geek first newscast this week and we'll update us so well as
our opening scene, we always do what are we watching now? And maybe
Taylor will watch it by them, but you check out he did, Oh,
I don't know the movie at Sasquatch Sunset. I think it's one of
the Yeah, so he did that, so obviously that's a big thing for
him, mister Cryptis, check that out. I'm very excited to see that
movie. I just I'm gonna see that one on vod because he got to
be picky, but yeah, it's uh, I'm excited to watch the movie
and then go hit his review because he said he had an awkward time watching
with his mom as well, and I said over there's some sex scenes and
he's like, that wasn't even the worst of it. So I'm like,
man, what, oh wow, what's been going on there? So yeah,
but we are here to talk about Rebel Moon Part two, the Scar
Giver. Obviously, if you want to know our thoughts in part one.
Me and Kirkland reviewed it months ago. I guess last year. I guess
months ago, December. It doesn't it's not that long, but it seems
like ages ago, but we just December. Wow, yeah, it feels
way longer than that. Yeah, it feels. Yeah, it feels like
it's been been a good year, but it hasn't. Uh So we have
that review on there and then yeah, that's about it. We've reviewed other
than three hundred and the Owls of the Gardens Gohool. We've reviewed every other
Sacks Snyder movie, so you can go look the DC Ones, Watchmen,
we did what do we do for Let's go pright Sucker Punch? So yeah,
so we've done them all. If we weren't so busy, we probably
would have done three hundred or Owls of the Gardens Gohool or whatever for this
we usually do. But there'll be another one down the line. So yeah,
if you like Snyner stuff, we've been there. So Kirka Pats are
also. I feel like we were both semi mixed on the first cut.
Obviously again this or the first part. Obviously, this is that whole regamarole
they're doing, well, oh well, this is the two hour PG thirty
one. There will be a longer radar cut, but as we've said before,
we're just gonna review this one. How it was. So after being
mixed on that first part, where were you on part two? Yeah?
For part two, I feel like the fact that I was pretty mid,
pretty lukewarm on that first part, I obviously had expectations on a simmered because
of just I don't know where we're at like leaving that first part, but
I still want like some nice spark in the galaxy to really just you know,
bring some hope into my world of this Rebel Moon universe. And I
just feel engaged and feel like I really want to be rooting for this this
crew and just just really fall in love with this this universe because it is
a very I think large scale universe that Zack Snyder's been able to create.
Here with just the different worlds and factions and and things that are introduced,
there's different like yeah, just different villagers on the individual planets showing like different
fauna and animals, so like they really do I think put in some effort
for the detailing of this world, but for the story and everything, Like
I am just so not interested in this at all. I feel like this
part really didn't do a whole lot more to like push the to push the
needle forward on the on the overall storytelling of this again, overall story I
I really just feel like this movie, you know, trending with my name,
I think it's just like the same movie almost, like like by the
end of it, it seems like we're in the exact same part. You
know, I'll save I'll save that specifically for when we get into the spoiler
section. But yeah, I just think we'll just say no, it's not
because we were telling us on vodka streaming. This is because I was trying
to like say a non sport away. But I feel like if people are
because I feel like on our discord I threw it out. I'm like,
who's watching this? I know Maddie's watching it, and then there's a lot
of whole humming with everybody else. So if you were wondering to save you
the two hours of like we'll be a complete journey, it's like a yes
and no. But there's a big cliffhanger. So that's where if you were,
you know, on cars really making six of these, I guess technically,
I think the way it's pitched is that they're all part one and Teasa.
Technically it's like kill Bill, where it's three movies but split into two
parts. But that Snyder's dreams. I don't know if that's gonna I don't
know if that's gonna happen. But yeah, and like I think, after
watching the first movie, although like I did think it was like a I
don't know, six or seven, it was the movie, so it's like,
Okay, this is them just just setting the table and then we're really
gonna be moving, maybe at a faster pace in the next film, and
they don't really do that at all. So while I was watching this one
in particular, I was just like, I don't see how they're just gonna
keep making more of these, especially like they haven't been received critically. Well,
I don't believe. I don't know how this one's doing. I don't
think it's doing better than what the first one was, and the first critically
it's worse than it's worse than the first one. I get from the general
Snyder fans that they like it more than the first one, so that's good
for them. I just don't the question is just like what's the number,
right? Because Netflix like movies, they don't care if it's reviewed bad.
If there's some people watching it, then they're good. But it's true.
That's where it's like, Okay, now we'll really see how Diehard. Those
like Snyder fans are that are like, Okay, if you're watching it and
you like it more, then we'll see. If we don't hear a part
three announcement anytime soon then or whatever, part I guess it's who knows.
But if you don't get an additional am announced than a little little iffy,
yeah, well we'll see. But I like, I think my initial feeling
on it is like I think it might be slightly better like quality wise of
the first movie, but the fact that it was just so SAME's ease in
my mind. And yeah, like I just I already knew these characters and
we were like just going more on like back on their or sorry, like
detailing their backstory and just trying to, I don't know, cover more things
that I think maybe should have already been covered. It just it didn't really
like my overall enjoyment was lesser than the first movie. I'm trying to say
the movie quality might be better, but I don't know. I'm not super
fond of this one. I'm definitely not rushing to rewatch the first one.
Like coming into this one, I was just like, I don't even think
I have to rewatch the first one. I have it like really fresh in
my memory, and I'm glad I didn't because I feel like I got the
exact same movie. But I don't know. We'll see if you disagree with
me or not on that. Does this make you? Let's say they do
a third where are you on both the extended cuts and where are you on
a part three? For your interest levels? I probably won't be checking out
the extended cuts unless, like I hear some like really major praise. I
don't know, man, like the Snyder cut jump from like Justice League.
You know, like I was, I was a person that was just like,
man, what is the Zack Snyder like cut thing going on? I've
seen Justice League. It's terrible, Like how can a certain cut really fix
the movie? And I saw that and I absolutely love that movie. So
maybe if I'm getting you know, some some word of mouth that's in that
range, then yeah, I will check it out. I think it would
be worth it because there is still some things in this movie that I do
like, Like, I still think visually, for the most part, it
looks really good. Like they did a really good job with a lot of
just the fight scenes. I'm really ify when it comes to specifically like Zack
Snyder's usage of slow moo. I feel like he really likes to crank up
that SloMo meter. But like there's some shots in here that I'm like,
fuck, yeah, this is awesome, Like it's working for me here.
So I think there is some moment that that are good, but I don't
know, the main glue that was holding it all together was was pretty weak.
Yeah, and what about a part three? Like a part three?
Yeah, I mean, like I'm gonna be there where we made it this
far, We're gonna bow out now, I don't think. Well, I
mean, if you are bowing out, maybe I'm a little bit more inclined,
but well, that's I'm gonna I'm gonna guilt you into it. Havn't
you join me? Like yeah, if you guilt me and I will still
see it. So that's the thing where that's the life of a podcast or
right, because it's I have no problem saying many things we review is because
hey, this gonna be good for our channel. And also most I'd say,
I would say eighty five percent, probably even ninety percent of the things
we talk about are things that we're already interested in. We probably might see
it at a quicker rate than maybe would have with the podcaster, But I
think there's maybe ten percent I would put Rebel Moon three whatever they call it,
in that ten percent of Well, I'm doing it for the pod now,
you know, because I just yeah, I just I'm very torn.
I actually liked this less than the first one because for me, I just
I'm not like a it's weird to say that I'm not an action guy,
but there's so many people like like the action genre, right, like even
just like cops and shooting stuff like that, Like that's never been like Beekeeper,
that's not my type of go to, and this is different ranks great,
but that to me is like it's action, but it's like it's fucking
weird. I like the hook of the energy or the adrandos got it,
Beekeeper's got no whole yeah no, no no. So that's the thing where
for me, there is the last hour this movie is pretty much action and
I think, like, like, it's good, but to me, it's
not anything that's like lower the rings, even some stuff we've seen, just
even recently with Dune. That also hurts it for me because I got Dune
a couple of months ago. There I'm like, man, this is like
the weaker younger brother. And I don't want to say that, because,
like I, Snyder is a talented guy. It just at times feels like
the straight to DVD version of Doune and it's just I'm not invested in this
world. I was more invested in Number one because okay for me and the
characters, but I still feel like we didn't get enough. Even here,
we didn't get enough, and I'm a character's first type of guy, so
it just feels very hollow. And it's tough because where I am with the
cuts, right, because if my history with Snyder and his cuts are,
I loved Watchmen and they said, hey, there's more Watchmen, so oh
great, that's perfect for me. Bvs. I liked it, but didn't
love it like a lot. I like whoever loved it, And when that
cut came out, I remember there being this narrative of all this. This
does a lot of stuff. It fixes it for me. I don't agree
with that. I think they're not the same movie, but it doesn't in
spades make it any better. Just explain some things cool. And then with
Justice League, that is true where this cut is tremendously different, but the
whole situation there is different because pretty much the director of that twenty seventeen one
is a different guy. Right, It's not like Zach made that film like
oh it sucked, but look at this. So it's like I'm in this
position now. It's like if he did do Justice League and I thought it
sucked. And and again I'm also not on the band wing where I don't
think it's like some of the worst movies I've ever seen. I think people
are being a bit too harsh on these movies. I just think they're generally
like meh, it's all right, like that's where it is, or it's
fine, but it's not it's not worth my time per se as far as
like to be very invested in. Right again, I work from home,
so it's a lot easier. And the podcast, sure, but that thing
where it's like, yeah, we'll see because Tara is almost on this one,
so maybe three will go around. But I just at the end of
this, and this is where the biggest example was the first hour happens and
I stayed up. I was at midnight and I was like, I'm gonna
work out, drink because I won't fall asleep. I was when I am,
I was wide awake. I was, you know, uh, what
the hell is it called? On? Oh? Banging and clang as the
rock says, you know, chills all that stuff, and is that one?
I am? And I was just like, I don't want to stay
up anymore. And it wasn't that I was. I was fully awake.
I didn't fall asleep till one thirty. I was just like, this isn't
even worth it to stay up till two am, you know, And then
I try. And then the next day I didn't even watch it right away.
I watched Late Night with the Devil. I watched the rest of Baby
Rain Deer, which is a fantastic Netflix series I'll talk about and geek first,
and then I watched Oh great, there's a whole bit. It felt
like, yeah, like I'm gonna get to like I put it off and
then I didn't even finish it untill last night, where I put it on.
I'm like, well, surely I won't fall asleep because it's the battle
scenes. I did, and then I woke up again at six am today
watch and I did, and then eventually was like, okay, I want
wait till lter on because Kirkling, you know that whole mix of him,
So okay, I'll finish it when I'm all fully awake. Da da da.
And I even went back I fell asleep. I'm like, oh,
I'm gonna start a little at that dinner table scene, which I'm not a
big fan of, which was you know, tough because of augustream last nay,
I was like, oh, yeah, I love that scene. I
just I didn't say much because I'm not being negative. This as negative.
I'm just like, oh, it's just don't finished it so it suck.
Yeah, I'll say it. Yeah. For me, it's like there's a
good version of that scene. But I don't think that scene was it.
That was a chance to learn people, but it was just like a quick
blurb we'll get into and spoils. But I hate the way it was set
up. But yeah, I just was I was fine and again for the
pog but who knows. We get busy in life, and if that,
if Rebel Moon three comes out at a time where we are busy, I
would strike it as we might just talk about on Geek first, and maybe
not a full review, because I just, yeah, I just I was
not. I had no interest in where we're going. I hated that it
was just like a full Bay Cliffhanger. I'm still not invested in anybody.
That's not because I liked them in real life. Even Jimmy. I don't
care to spoil he is great, he's still barely in these things. I
was thinking, like Man Part two, even him, like that's such.
That's what's annoying, Like Snyder and the company. If I create this really
cool character and I know some oh well that's what he'd be in the other
four, I don't want to wait for the fucking other four. Like I
still want to see the cool character here. So even that stuff that I
was hyped about I was let down on. So yeah, I just uh,
I didn't enjoy this one. I think the first one I passed,
and this one, like, I guess it's like a minus. But I
don't know. If I can't, I don't know where I am and if
I was I don't know if it's a pass, but I just I don't
think so. And yeah, I just I can't recommend this for people that
were If you liked the first one enough, sure check it out. But
if you really didn't like the first part, there's no reason to do this.
I don't think it's a big jump. I don't even think it's like
a little jump. I think it's just kind of like the same. And
yeah, and that's where it's like, that's for me, the best example
where I kept putting it off to finish shit, and I didn't have that
with the first one. I just, yeah, I just and this one
for me, I had more head scratching moments and really enough for me.
And that's where I was trying to get back with the cut though, right
where the Watchman loved it, BVS like I don't have like BVS and Justice
like I was always gonna check out those cuts because they feature my favorite character
of all time. Right, I've really no reason to check out the cuts.
I will probably someday because I work from home. But that's the thing
where if I didn't work from home and my life is busy, it's like,
yeah, I might wash the cuts, but it's like one day in
like like a next whenever there's nothing going on, sure like it might end
up on a list that I never go to. I just have no pull
to check out these things because even the initial stuff, I'm not that jazzed
with right now. So yeah, it sucks because and I don't know,
I hope not. I don't know. I guess I hope he gets to
do whatever he wants to do. And I guess that's where it's tough for
me because I love Justice League, but I didn't really I liked During the
Dead, I thought it was fine, and I didn't like these two films.
So I'm not really like the last few Snyder movies and I liked BVS,
but like the last three for me have not been great. I just
feel like there was something that Snyder had a decade ago that was some sort
of like special sauce, and I think it was a sauce that it's like
Cilantro, where people love it or they fucking hate it, but there and
I guess people still are like that with these movies, but I don't know.
They just it feels like there's something missing with these last three. The
Netflix era of Snyder doesn't feel like the exact same before. Yeah, so
that's my thoughts. It's just kind of a meh and I don't really have
much interest. It's not my tempo this universe, you know, there's nothing
to here for me unfortunately, so it's super unfortunate. I like it's the
type of feeling too after watching this one if no one has ever seen like
Rebel Moon and was asking me about it, like I'm like, yeah,
it's not even worth jumping into, like just go just go watch some other
content. There's so much stuff bout there, and there's so much like like
again, we're in the same year that Dune came out, you know,
and there's other that's the tough now the tough thing nowadays for everybody. And
I'll be interesting see what the viewership is for the second part because there is
just so much stuff and so much good stuff. Yeah, I could never
recommend this really to anybody. You know, We're watched Manmo with Snyder's like,
oh, I can recommend this or obviously three hundred there's more mainstream and
BBS is a certain crowd, but this is like, I don't know,
if you really really like space stuff and you want something new, Well it's
there. You really like a certain actor, if you like Sophia Botella,
if you like Jim and Huntsuo, you know they got some some dialogue speeches,
but like Hopkins voice yeah and Hopkins voice yeah. Maddy says it drags
for me because these movies have killed any desire to watch a pre hour version,
even though it's a radar would prefer the radar version start, but they've
lost me. And I think that's a lot where I feel like already because
it's tough for me because I'm a man of two worlds where I just live
in. I have a friends group that's very hardcore in to snier stuff,
and then I have a friends group that's not at all, and I just
feel like even people that likes Justice League and Army of the Dead, I
felt there was like a rebel moon came out and everyone's like, eh,
I'm not that interested. And I feel like it's even more so, like
I feel like it's now like people are just don't people that aren't hardcore in
the camp are just ready to move on. And now when it comes and
it's to the point where who knows what happens with Big Dan Lynn because he's
changing some stuff and he's the new guy and he's not tourist in the past
that he was not. It sounds like he was not a fan of Snyder's
movies. I'm very curious what like Rebel Moon are Army the Dead and this
would be a conversation for another day, but what they would have done in
the theaters. And I'm curious what Snyder's interest level is is the next thing
he puts a movie on the theaters that's not a property. You know,
what is the interest there to people come out and see it? And it's
tough with streaming because even then it's easier to watch and click on right.
But overall, yeah, I'm tread and Will's here or trend water. I
can't recommend it. I didn't enjoy my time with it. And there's the
couple cool scenes. I don't think people are like generally bad except for the
same guy we kind of ragged on the last review. I'm not a fan
of this one character. And yeah, anything else non spores, Nope,
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but if you now don't care about spots or you've seen the movie,
like a break when we were back, and we are back, so I
wanted to go back to the dinner scene because that's something where for me,
I thought that's someone where I was gonna link in. But I hated Jamond
Huntsu. He tells a story and then he literally looks around and says,
all right, before we go into battle, you almost tell your story,
man, Like, I guess there's a way to make that work. To
me if like Jamon Huntsu was almost like a Dracsesque character where he's very in
your face, very kind of like naive or dumb, like Cavean. I
write like I tell my story, you tell yours, but like he comes
off as sophisticated. And I also get the I know what they're trying to
do. If we're going to war, let's do our war stories. Let's
bond. But it was just the way and how sun it was. It
just felt like they I do this all the time when I write, you
put like a placeholder thing here, and then I'll put a paragraph of like
circle back. Like right now, I write a script, and I knew
I want to give this character a long description, but I didn't want to
do that right now. I wanted to think of a few more other things
and everything. So I'm like, okay, I introduced a character and I
put put intro here, cycle back later. But that's where it felt like
he didn't cycle back. He just like he didn't. He didn't circle back
and just left us you tell your story, didn't that was out He didn't
even know, and I was just and then we get these stories in there,
and I imagine I do agree because their tongue spogging stream. I do
agree that I bet on the radar cut those are probably long or all those
I imagine they're gnarlier. Maybe they're all ten minutes, but like one,
I guess some of them I was not that interested in, Like the guy
the long hair that's always shirtless, like I didn't really care about. Like
again, it's okay, he was a king of a kingdom, Like there's
something that's what is frustrating to me is rebel Moon. There's something cool here,
but the way they do it isn't cool. I think there's something cool
with this guy that was a king of a planet and he's lost it and
he's a king without a country or a planet or a throne whatever. But
there's just some of the story of like I think care They have this slow
mo with the mom that just makes it like comedic for me, like I
yeah, especially he's like she couldn't abandon her people, so she stayed and
then she just like gives a cowards death. Yeah she stayed all right,
like right before. It's not like she washed everybody or fall with him to
the end, Like I'm just gonna killing somebody of the situation like the soldiers
don't know that where's our queen? And there's just even weird stuff like earlier
on. And that's why I for the other cuts. Like the sex is
bigger, so maybe hey, that'll be one thing to come back to you.
And that's great if you're looking for that, but that like you know,
I don't need that, but great, you know, like like fantas
if you like this, that's good that there's gonna be sexier. You know,
there's poor things out just recently, there's lots of other things, but
like, sure have sex to the movie is great, so they bang it
out core. And that guy I can't remember, he's good looking to do
a nice wavy hair, you know. He's like, I'm jealous of his
hair, his hair. I'm like, yeah, I'm not gonna remember that
fucking name. And I'm sorry. If the person that listened to your Guys'
Doom review that gives a three star reviews, well, you guys need to
have more prep time before you review these movies. You shouldn't be forgetting the
names. Well you're not gonna like this. I'm not calling them fucking Goontar
or whatever. Maybe I will now but it's like, whatever, it's a
fucking movie. We're not studying for a test here years. I appreciate you
listening, but like, let's like chill out, man, it's not that
serious. So the guy, every time I see him, like good hair,
I'm jealous every time I see this man, like he got a good
set hair. It's wavy, everything's like Patrick Jompsons. Yeah, so they
bang it out, which we really don't bang it out. They just and
I'll get there. That felt forced and jumped, and I get why they
did it now. But anyway, so this happens and she tells the whole
story. I have issues with that story too. But it felt weird that
she did her flashback story while they're in bed, and then later on everyone
was doing her flashback story and then she just talked about it. I felt
like they didn't even do it at the beginning. She should have just done
it there. Like the pacing of that was weird. So that dinner scene,
which I when we got there, like, oh, this could be
the moment where right before about because the first I'd say, that's like fifteen
minutes before the battle. So it's like the last hours of battle forty five
minutes is prepping for the battle. Then there's the fifteen penments of the dinner.
The dinner table scene, I thought, Okay, I've heard the last
hour is a battle, so this dinner scene is maybe gonna get me hooked
in these characters. I'm gonna really care. Here we go and it really
just felt like the cliff Notes version of something, And yeah, I didn't
invest me anymore. Maybe Giamand hunts like a little bit more because I did
it like that story. But even then I want a bit more there and
again for people, Oh there could be more. The radar doesn't matter.
This is the film I saw, and what I saw it was extremely lacking.
Yeah, we're gonna read the product that we saw it here today.
The Diamond Hunts Who Won was another one? Then he left so hard.
I don't know why, but it just seems so over the top, like
to literally just execute this group of soldiers with like a like an artillery guesth
star escially far squad. Dude, those are no like like close quarters casualties,
just caught the collateral damage here, Like the King's soldiers are just like
standing right there and they're going for the budgets. They're like, who spent
twenty million on those laser? Ah when we hit that, what'd you?
Well? We want to send a message to this general guys, Yeah,
we fucking boom twenty million. You're fire, Get the fuck out of here,
and like why do I leave driving? Hunt you alive? Even too?
Oh? I don't. Yeah, like slit his throat after that,
like he saw his people die. I don't know, it was it seems
strange there, but no, I'm completely in agreement with you here on this
dinner table sequence. I the way that it was starting up, I thought
that this was gonna be like a really nice scene that's like really yeah,
I'm just I don't know, our heroes are really rallying together. I was
getting like some little glimpses of like some like pre Helm's Deep Battle, where
like our soldiers are just like talking to each other like like something like that
to the equivalent. But yeah, it was just I think it's also just
the execution of like you said, like just passing around the talking stick and
like okay, now you're telling me all about you. Yeah. Multiple times
watching this movie it made me think of like I think maybe they should have
done like a series for for this project, I think we would have just
had so much more time to really stretch out like some backstory content like this,
as opposed to having every character tell us their backstory, whereas the like
it's to the point that I don't even remember like most of their backstories because
I just like remember the ones that really like stood out, mostly the funny
ones like the King of the Kings and the Jamon Huntsu. Obviously, you
know, I do remember some of what the other ones, but like they
don't really stick with me as much as they should because they like these are
the main backstory of these characters that we we got some backstory on them when
they were introduced. But this is really, I guess, the moment to
have us get attached to these characters, and I just think it's so poorly
done. And like the scene, it's not a short scene because we do
go through every character, but it's just so forgettable for how it's done.
I think again, like if if they would have just been able to pace
it through like different moments, like maybe just have two characters talking at like
a different stage of the adventure, and that's when you get Jaman Hunts,
who's backstory and then later on you get someone else's. So I just thought
it was a really sloppy way of doing that, and yeah, to my
point of it just maybe being better as a series. I also felt that
with just like our main villain, the way that he was just like back
early like one in the movie. I was kind of complained about that in
the trailers. I'm like, I know he was coming back, but like
they really just I don't know, Like it's as if he didn't even have
like a near death incident at the end of the last movie. Change he's
been looking gross in the cocoon and like she loves cocoon to start the movie,
but then he's just like right back up, and it's like they could
have stretched this out too, like, yeah, like a little bit longer,
and it wasn't my catch. Someone mentioned Vodgersham was like the great note
that they're like, oh, you're not complete, like you're not out of
the thing yet, And then when he comes out, it's like, oh,
there could be an opportunity there to maybe make him a little bit more
off kilter or more violent or somebody. He's just the same dude as always,
you know, And I just exactly, you know, And I was
fine within the lot because I think he got it kind of memed on the
first go round. I was fine them. I think he's doing his job
right as he's playing like a Nazi soldier. I think what I was disappointed
from. And this is where I don't care. I'll still it's a little
bit better in part two, but I still think Zach needs a cineatographer.
There's this moment where he is invading the basic and he jumps down into this
like you know, the tunnel from Call Duty, and he's like taking on
all these people and it's supposed to be like this cool scene, but it's
just like it's just like a backup shot of him just like taking people.
Like I thought, there's a moment, Oh, there's a bunch of guys
that aren't as trained as him stuck in a very like a ten like a
five foot tunnel. He's gonna fucking go have it here, And it's not
really. It's just like he's just walking by taking people out like he's like
all right, And that's the thing. It's like always like this. It's
these cool ideas and it's just like you got the low fat or like less
spicy version, like we'll make sure that butter chicken is not spiced, like
that's what it's just like, ah, like come on and again maybe and
that's a problem too. Yeah, there coulda be something radar, but this
then it just doesn't work here. And he was fine, but he was
just there to be. I thought there'd be more development with him. It's
tough, right, I thought there'd be more development with him and like the
bigger emperor dude, But at the same time, I don't like seeing the
Emperor dude on my screen. I'm not I'm not trying to be mean.
It's just the few scenes again he was in here and she's like, I
have no interest in us taking him down. I hated Cora's whole backstory.
That was to me. I just think it was the way it was.
There's some cool stuff about the music and the way some of the characters look,
but so what they all decide to kill this family, and because it's
a big thing, they decide just to throw it all on Cora. And
it's like, all right, I feel like that's a rush development. But
still whatever, I'll like, go with you. But like how she gets
out of there, it feels like I'm watching I Got Kids play of Like
she just turns, shoots some guys and like holds a gun up and then
they let her run. And it's just like that's it. Like for this
character who we've been told they're looking for, they want her that I would
understand if it's like no, they want her to go, like let her
go, so she could make it like like yeah, she killed them,
and she she can't answer, right, we can make everyone turn against her
because she's out there on the run. But they've told us in the first
movie and to begin this movie that they want Kor back, right, So
this escape scene like it's just the whole breakup. And the weird thing is
is like I don't know, she didn't she didn't become a good person,
she stopped doing this because they framed her for it. She has this moment
right where it's Carrie Alloways, which I was bummed about because I love Carrie.
He's in here for a hiccups. That sucks. But there it's a
royal family. It's him, his wife and a daughter and she's Princess Alana.
So apparently she has like some magic powers. Cool, that's the big
cliffhanger. She's alive and she has magic. Great. I don't give a
fuck. I ain't come back for magic. I got enough of that in
my life, you know. So anyways, they're walking they do the red
wedding thing where everyone's killing them, and it's like the emperor dude, and
she's there and she's a gun on the little girl. She doesn't want to
shoot the empressas you gotta do it, so she shoots the girl kills her,
and the Emperor's like, oh, Scott, give her the Trader and
they're all like Trader and just very for me, not a good scene.
I just don't think it's well done at all. And you said she just
kind of gets out of there, but like killing a couple of guards and
they just let her go. But that was the thing of like she didn't
turn against the empire because she finally had a morale lesson of man, I
need to this is bad, Like I would have even been fine if she
killed that girl. And then the second they asked her for somehow, she's
like, you know what fucked. It's like I can't do this anymore,
Like you just had me assassinate this little girl like this is the line for
me. I can't go any further and then have them say, Okay,
you're a trader. We're gonna just pin on you because you're if you're not
with us anymore, fuck you. You're gonna take the You're gonna take the
bullet. But it's just they just decide you're the trader to throw it on
somebody. And she's just like goodbye. Default she she got excommunicated and then
and I get it. You can say, oh at the end, she's
good, but she's like, even like our character, I'm looking to have
like a little backbone, And how am I supposed to invest in this?
Well, they're a good guy because the bad guys threw her out. It's
like what like so that whole scene again, that really just made me not
interested anything with the Emperor, Cora, the Princess, And that's the first
twenty minutes and that's just like, oh, this is not going well for
me right now for my enjoyment level. No, I'm pretty much at queen.
He felt on that scene as well. I don't know, like leading
up to it, I thought it was going to be this really nice,
just orchestral like climax, especially we have like the classical like violins going by
the scene, but when it was like actually happening, it just felt so
corny and cheesy. And yeah, you have the Ballisarius character who's like like
I forget what they called him, but like that that's his name, but
he's like the regent or something like he's not the king now, but something
along those lines, And it just didn't make sense why he was just like
freaking out at scar Giver. It's like, shoot, it's like it's like
she was the only one that had a gun in the entire room, and
it's just like do it. And then like, as you mentioned, she
has this like moral dilemma, but not really because she still fucking shoots the
princess and just like bounces in a really I don't know, it's like they
just had the difficulty. It's like way down to easy. Oh, it's
it's like why aren't the dudes attacking? Why can't they see Agent forty seven
or you're playing easy? Cool dude, you just want to be the experienced.
That's fine, Yeah, I have a good time, but like for
the movie, like that's where it's like instead of Crandell, actually in give
me a cool five minute chasing of her escaping out of there. But no,
it's just like just easy. Just it's just like a it's like a
breakup after three days, like yeah, this isn't working. Yeah, it's
not really working, all right, see you later, okay. But like
she just walks out of there, like she has one gun. This dude
is like twenty people with them, you know, like more so than that,
Like there was a lot of people in that room that were on his
side, all holding weapons. I thought, haven't they insinuated? Maybe it
says something to this princess now after the fact, but he has some sort
of powers, right, I will give them that that maybe he got the
powers after because maybe he takes them from this princess, But at this present
time we don't know that. So I'm just assuming this character might have some
sort of whatever the version of the Force is here in the Rebel Newton universe.
It's just like heavy powered Emperor guy and his goons and it's a one
way door. You just yeah, man, Yeah. The for me,
just the cheese factor was was through the roof in the in that moment,
like having the king just like like a wounded n animal just screaming like no,
don't do it. It was just taking so long for her to finally
shoot her. The Princess is like I forgive you, which iss so strange.
It's like she's this Gandhi type character, which like I think, I
don't think it's gonna be I think, like they haven't set up like but
so okay, fair enough. But in the moment, I thought it was
just hilarious and then yeah, you got core like don't or whatever the fuck
she says you shouldn't. But then the screeching on top, no, you
killed the Princess. It was just like, not like we like you kill
Ray Fisher off of the first movie, Like couldn't we put someone else here?
Like again, maybe just a script and whatnot, But I just like,
yeah, just none of that worked for me, and even the beginning
too of and I get it now because goon through with the good hair.
They're gonna kill them off at the end of this movie, of course he
has to drop the fucking they both of them dropping the I Love You is
It's like, all right, always need these fucking movies, you know,
But just like I I think we talked those in the first movie, but
I got the vibe that there was some attraction there. If anything, maybe
they were banging, but I didn't think it was that deep yet, right,
so I could buy maybe down the series that you know, I love
you, but the fact that first five minutes they're kissing, they get on,
so it's like, Okay, I guess I gotta work this out.
But it just felt like it was very lovingly. It felt like they had
already like end of Part one, gone together now, but even then it
doesn't mattercause this happens within five days. So that just felt very rush to
it. I didn't buy any of that, and I actually think their chemistry
is not awful. I think it's like not anything like flying off the screen,
like Okay, I could buy this, but again some marinate and and
I guess, like I don't know. I appreciate one thing that he did
have stakes and he did kill off multiple characters in the end there, so
it was a thing of like, not everyone made out Scott free. It
was hey, you can lose people in this war, And I do think
that's great. If he were to make all like the rest of these four
movies, it is like a hey, you like a character, but they
could be taken out, so that is cool. I think that there there's
just the execution of when they lost him could have hit a bit more.
And I think they just went with the I love you to try and make
it feel like, oh, we're gonna rush too, just supposed to feelest
because they love each other. But I almost liked if they didn't hook up
or they didn't say that, it would have felt like a like a missed
opportunity. And I felt like he was trying to do that because he had
Corus say that to him when he was already dead, right, So I
feel like it was he was trying to go for the like it felt like
a miss Things just didn't fully hit with me, and there was enough focus
on them in these both two parteris for me to buy into that. So
no, I again, I completely agree with you here. This is another
thing that I think if we had it in a series like it wouldn't have
felt so such a jump maybe from what the relationship was, because I do
agree with you that they have some chemistry there, but it just seems like
the relationship, even though they were like close in the first movie, it
just seemed going from that first movie to this one is just such a jump
on how close they are, and by the end of it, they're just
yeah, embracing saying I love you, and it just it seems so fast,
And for that reason, I think it brings just the whole quality of
that dynamic down, because they just skipped to the finish line as opposed to
either doing what you had pitched and do it like and they just didn't have
enough time to really explore what might have been or just give us more scenes
of them like actually having those bonds. But I think for the four hours
or so whatever the collective run time is for the two movies, I just
don't think you really have time to squeeze that in there, So like why
even why do it? That's my thoughts. At least that would be good
friends, That's a I would have been fine with that. Like that's the
same I could almost buy that kill him off and still have it like feel
meaningful without it. You don't love Yeah, it's like I like, I
haven't fun Kirkli, but if he gets killed in the battle, like I'm
gonna feel upset about it. At least for part two and part three,
I'll find some won't hear my backstory though. That's that's no, No,
he didn't get his backstory because he's just a regular guy. He didn't violence.
When they're in the dinner table scene and it literally goes through every character,
then it goes to look in Dario Naharis from Game of Thrones, that's
that's his character there, and he's just like all right, he like stands
up. He's like, I guess that's it for me, and he just
like saunters off. I'm like, oh, I guess we're all getting that
guy's maybe fucked up. You know, he has a backstory. They just
lived on this planet. That was great, I guess until Noble and the
Sovereign ever showed up. I guess right. But I did enjoy the scene
where Corey tried to give herself up and then he got the rifle and he
shot the bell. I liked that. I liked that he was trying to
make it like you're I like it for him, even though she was completely
right, like if the deal was just to give herself up for the village,
like yeah, you give the villa, you go like you're not You're
a fucking visitor here. And it's just especially to me if it would have
been. She didn't kill that princess. She tried to save her again,
she got excommunicated because like we just got pinness on somebody. So it's not
even like I'm invested in her as a hero. It just feels like it.
I like, yeah, have her go. She did terrible stuff,
go back, like I don't even fucking like our incent people and the Lightsaber
girl and gun Through with the Good Hair to die, Like this is a
sweet deal, they said, like I'll just take the crops and you and
I don't know also safe. Now there's probably a version where they're just lying,
right, So that's where I can head myself where they'll probably just take
her and then so kill everybody. Right, So that's where I do agree
with gun Through the Good Hair by let's just shoot this bell and get it
on. And I did appreciate too, like he shoots that off right away,
So one pops out of the ground and nobles like like there's never been
a battle in his life. Oh my shot, and like it was actually
a good moment. I like that. That's how surprised they were. And
right away they take down a big ship Like I liked that. It was
Okay, they had the five days and they fucking strategized. It wasn't just
like they ran out and I was like, ah, like they were ready
to go. So I did. I like the start of the battle,
and again none of the battles stuff I I thought was bad. I think
there was that kind of moment like in Fast and Furious. Have you seen
all the Fast and Furious movies? No, there's one where there's a plane
taking off on a runway and it feels like it goes on forever. That's
how felt like the ship when it was falling down. It's like, man,
this ship is going down for a long time. But there's some cool
shots that am going like like falling down and sliding everything. So I liked
the some of the battlestup. It's just because I'm not as invested in the
characters that I eventually it's a little numb wich just forty f I minutes straight.
But I really liked that opening of Noble Landing, the talk, the
shoot of the bell, them hiding the sand, hiding different places. I
think my crescendos right when like Jimmy Lance and kicks ass. Then after that,
that's why I started to go on, Like, Okay, I feel
like I'm like, it's a it's not doing as much for me there,
but there's aspects of it. I liked the Jimmy landing. That was definitely
the peak for me because that's not a thing that I mean, that's like
the main thing that I was looking forward to going into the second part.
And I think the execution of it was definitely satisfying. It met my expectations
there, but it was just very, very limited in the overall landscape of
what this movie is. Jimmy is just Jimmy is such a side character.
He was non existent really my first part. Nice my god. Yeah,
he's a miscellaneous character, if that's a category. He is very forgettable.
Like he's not forgettable because he's got a great look. I chose him as
our wall paper here today because he's my favorite part about this series, and
you know, he's got another moment to just kind of share his philosophical ideals
with with another character on screen, and like I love those I love those
little one on ones that he has. But yeah, but yeah, no,
I I was just a little bit let down that he wasn't in it
more. I think that the action across the board as well as maybe the
the preparation sequence. That was probably my favorite part about this this movie.
For yeah, I would say that's part of my favorite part of it,
just just because of me. But like what else would be you know,
yeah, like there, you know, like seeing the king cry and his
daughter getting shot. Now yeah, no, you're you're definitely right there,
and man, like even just thinking about like the overall setting for this battle,
it's just like, again, this is just the same location where we
where we're at on the first I understand maybe the like the big final battle
wasn't in the same place, but it just seemed that we kept coming back
to this, this one little village to get this green that like, this
is just such a this is like getting the planets to the Death Star getting
this green, like it is that important. And maybe some people are gonna
make the argument it's like, well that fits the world because there is just
like such a famine going around that like like it's almost like Dune with the
spice, like that's the most valuable thing, that this grain is the most
valuable thing in the universe. But uh, I don't know, it's also
like just the terrain I feel like it's it was good enough to see in
the first movie, but I want to see different and new locations going.
Yeah, and plus like the real big found battle takes place in like a
CGI ship where like I don't think the first movie did, but it's like
a CGI type of ship in the air again or something. Right, So,
yeah, you're right, and it was it was fun that one definitely
know it has to be Radar because when they like trap him the door and
cut of his head off and like cuts some like oh, like it's a
little anti climactic there. How do you feel in that we got to see
more of them an action like the Molten Swords or whatever. You got the
blue ones, you get the orange ones. How do you feel they have
this effect where it's like the Light Years had this bit, but they definitely
had more of the like when something swishes they leave, I go like a
longer trail because it's like fire and smoke. Right, No, I I
thought those looked really really cool in action. I think there were some moments
when the the lady with the duel uh I should have her name, but
the one that thought the Spider Lady three Stars lady took out HARMANA, uh,
yeah, Nemesis, there you go, that's her name. When she
was like deflecting some like shots or blaster shots whatever it was, it looked
a little stiff with her movements, Like it didn't look as fluid as maybe
some prequel Star Wars action might be. But I don't know it served its
purpose there. I feel like, again, that's just something else that should
really hit a lot harder. I am usually just such a sucker for cool
looking action like action. You're your lists, You're mentioned earlier, like action
movies. It's not really like your main like category of films. I feel
like for a big portion of my life that one hundred percent was my category.
So I still have a lot of a lot of love for it,
especially just just seeing like the choreography, and I thought, especially just coming
off of things like Dune John Wick last year, like like There's just Monkey
Man is another recent example of just like what they can do yeah with the
handhand combat, And I think although maybe the actual shooting of the shots looked
good, maybe the the overall movements of yeah, the action stars on screen
didn't. It wasn't peak for me, if you know, if I compared
to some other properties that I've seen, but yeah, no, I I
like to see some more of that. I did laugh when the big Dad
got his head chopped off, because I'm like, man like, he's probably
fucking back. First thing, next movie. Now they're gonna they're gonna have
him in a cocoon with his head. He's gonna be out in like ten
minutes for going back to Velt through we got unfinished business with that plan.
Every movie is just they on the fucking Velt and they're just trying to get
this grain. Still, don't matter how many times you guys have to bring
me back or how how what's the budget is for for this effect or sorry,
this this goal to get all this grain. They're they're getting that grain
one way or the other. Yeah, oh it's take an hour of break,
we'll probably get in some other final thoughts, rating and stuff like that,
be right back and we're back. So yeah, any anything more unnoble.
Yeah, he came back. He's about the grain as always, and
he found out what the scargiver was there. So that was good and I
felt like they made this deal. It was I found it odd when the
village is like or core and don't come back they're like it's over. They're
so confident they should like it's over. It's done. We say today,
you know, like why what happened? Oh we we kill Noble, it's
over. And then like all the fucking generals is calling something out their grain
like why we like it's like if this is like you said whatever the un
verse once. But let's say it's up to Noble and other people, Hey,
these are your country's planets. Whatever, go look after and get the
resources. And I would assume that they would know or somebody would know,
Hey, Noble and his whole crew are going here, and someone say,
oh, he was going there cause they're gonna get the grain in here.
So I just thought very odd that our heroes taught just killing this one dude.
Man, that's it. We've saved the planet. Like literally, like
it was funny that it was literally five minutes before the planet people gotta call
like, yeah, we're still coming on Tuesday, like I hope you're ready,
Like it was an odd jump to it. It just felt very almost
I hate to say this, but just like a spoof of a space like
he just felt like it was so oh yeah, we Noble, that is
it? Like lying what like, and then there I just love that that
he like, now they're still coming and we're fucking screwed, and all the
hero is like, oh my god, we still gotta fight. Like very
odd but yeah, Noble wasn't They gave more action stuff in here. But
again, to me, it was an impactfy. I was hoping for a
bit more or fear coming at him, or to feel like, okay,
even if this character who like like i'd say, is half big but not
necessarily always in a bad way, like he's there to play, you know,
kind of a discount Hans Landa, but that's fine. But I was
like, Okay, this is where like Hans Landa, he never won the
field and start kicking ass, right, this is where Noble and I'm thinking
of Snyder movie. And he did do that. He got on the ground
kicked ass. But I just wasn't like, oh shit, like this is
like the first time he saw Fanas open up on the Hulk and you're like,
oh my god, like he can actually do this too. So it
just was just it was fine. And yeah, the again, I don't
really care about any of the big bad guys. The main bad guy,
the Emperor Noble like it was. Yeah, yeah, no, I think
I like Noble more. Actually in the first movie, he just seemed a
lot more calm, collected and like the man in charge like he I think
just the confidence of a character like that adds to their fear factor for me,
and and this one he seemed kind of the same and just a little
bit lesser. Maybe moments like when the guy pops out of the ground and
he's just it's like he's playing five Nights at Freddy's or something like he just
totally gets spooked and like he's retreating, you know at part, Like he
just seems a little bit more on the back foot here. And I also
just see it's such a such a drop of the ball to not have any
real like effect of like is basically death, Like I'm not even gonna call
it like a near death, Like I'm actually gonna call it like he did
die and they brought him back to life. And I just feel like it's
it's it's just a it's a mispotential to to not really lean into what a
change I could have on maybe someone's psyche or just their overall like the way
that they carry themselves. Maybe they're they're more menacing now because they just have
some some death rage in them, like like he just is the exact same
character of the first movie, and like why even have this near death,
like just have him escape, have him escape like Cora did when she fucking
shot the princess. Like that's weird because the excuse could have been all the
huge because they do do that, right, the heroes say, well,
he's dead and we saved it. You could have done that where oh they
think it's over and then this dude comes back as you thought, oh they're
nonvaiting and they do invade and you're like fuck, like fuck, it's like
one of those moments. But they were prepared. They were like they were
and then they were prepared. Even Nobla come back. Then I was like,
oh Noble's back, okay, cool, and like you gave Musca and
so I was like, okay, all right. But yeah, so it
was just lost choices, our heads. The fucking scar moment, she's the
scar giver and she gave him a scar. Yeah fuck off that. Yeah,
No, I like the one seeing that Jimmy slash James, you know
they call them that. And again, just even little stuff too where she
says like, oh, you know, teaming up, that's their nightmare,
and he drops down. He does help, and then at the end they
find the princess like, well, I got to help you out. The
Princess alive. It's like, dude, you've been helping, Like he just
helped us, Like like why does it matter? Like again, it's just
that's fine because I guess you could argue, well, is the robot and
leave the planet. I guess you, well, no, he's not.
But it's like I would assume so because he's going against this protocol and he's
fighting the empire. So it just was weird. He's like, yeah,
I am now with you one rule of not killing anyone. Dude. We
just saw you. We just saw he's like the princess, and you thought
the princess was dead. So it's like, now, like what does it
matter? Like and how does he know he's just robot and he's just taking
their word like princes live, well, Princess alive. I must help you.
That's the way it is. So yeah, I was disappointed, Jimmy.
One of the coolest things I think I've seen in a sci fi thing
end up being very lackluster. That to me felt like a I understood part
one of Okay, they had to go and get everybody in multiple planets,
so that's fine. Of why he runs off, and I was okay,
part two we better deliver. And no, it's just it feels like it
feels like the MCU, which is so frustrating. It feels like the MCU
when you they could only get an actor for a certain amount of time,
or any franchise, right, it's like, okay, they're here for two
scenes like Daredevil in Echo. It's okay, it's one scene. It's not
his show. Wish we could get more, but whatever, we're get Dared
Devil's show. This is a fucking CGI practical robot. Like I don't care
if if even if the excuses, well, we couldn't get Anthony all the
time. Fuck Anthony Hopkins. I love Anthony Hopkins, but like the I
don't like the character because Hopkins like that's an added bonus. That's cool.
I think it's a great voice, but I like the characters. So it's
weird. Maybe it's a budgetary thing. So if you were telling me that,
sure, but then I would say cut the budget. Some other places
some other Like I would sacrifice screen time for both movies for about three to
four of these characters just to get more Jimmy. You know, like there's
that one lady that joined I still know much about with like the buzz cut,
you got fucking the blood whatever. That sister is like Ray Fisher's sister.
It's like around It's just like these I just don't care. So yeah,
Jimmy, very disappointing with him leaving that first movie going into this one,
Like I would have expected him to be like in the main crew,
like for the entire length of this movie, just just kind of with how
he was set up. As you mentioned, I do understand why he was
limited in that first appearance, but yeah, like why have him skulking out
in the shadows for so much of this movie, Like just just get to
it. Have the cool character join up and like have him at that dinner
table, have him give us his backstory. Like I'm so much more interested
in that than just pretty much everyone there actually, especially after hearing them,
like even even Titus, like it seemed like it was kind of a given
in the last movie of kind of like what had happened, Like Okay,
he was a general. He did something. Now he's kind of dishonorable for
his own honor, like like he obviously is carrying a lot of weight on
his shoulders. I don't need to see the scene of the fucking death Star
murdering his twenty troops or yeah, or whatever it was. So yeah,
I'm really really disappointed with where they they wanted to highlight their focus I think
in this movie. And I really don't have any confidence that they're like gonna
switch it up for the next movie, Like Jimmy's probably gonna have seventy two
seconds of screen time next movie. If for going off of what the the
track record is for these these previous two I might be slightly hyperbolzing, but
like still like I really have low expectations there, and that's the coolest character
so far. And then in this in this series, at least in my
mind easily, I think they had a chance with Cora, But this movie
took it down for me. I liked Coorra in the first one. It's
okay, I gotta see more, but the origin and a few things here,
yeah, took it down for me, and not Sophia Bateel's thought fault
she's a badass. I like watching her. I hope to see another stuff
again too. So I don't think any and that thing with this. It's
not like other than that to me, the one Emperor character. That's why
I can't go solo like some other people, because it's like, I think,
like this, most of it's acted well enough, Like it's not like
like, I don't think it's like, Man, I got a bunch of
people in here that are just shit actors like. No, like I think
they're good. I think it's just like materials. They're doing what they can
with it, right, there's not too much to chew. I'm like Jim
and Hunting is delivering this stuff. I don't think he's bad. I appreciate
the take when people are telling their story and he's crying during all of it.
Do I think it's warranted? No, not really, but I think
that he's doing the best he can. So, yeah, I don't know.
Let me look at my notes here. I really don't have much Emperor
sucks. I mentioned that. Yeah, the Bellisarius character, man, he
like he was really not in this movie like at all. I think he
was in it more in the previous one. No, he just had the
end credit in the previous one, so he's like, Jimmy, he's just
the one seen guy. Well no, dude, yeah, like Cora's father
or not the father, right, yeah, no, because we have the
moment when he like stands down or sorry, he stares down Cora right like
it's like a flashback sequence. Yeah, maybe it's not even flashbacks. It
is so when she's younger. But also I think it maybe you know,
I think it is him. So yeah, you guys, Yeah, you're
right. And then the end credit when he's he's it's like a Palpatine moment,
but he's like he's slamming something, the ice or whatever the fuck he
was doing that. He does not have the gravitas of a character should have
in that position. I think, like the Dead King has a lot more
of a of a hood spot than what this guy's cat like. He just
seems like a it just seems like a charisma vacuum. He's just a black
I don't know. I really wouldn't be following this guy into battle, I
think. And he's not scary. He's he's not it's not handsome, like
uh like, like he doesn't seem like the guy if you were to tell
me he's another guy on nobles level, Like, okay, I can kind
of see that, Like I still don't even see that, but fine,
I can buy that. But the fact that he's gonna be like the big
boss, it's like, oh yeah, I don't have much there. My
only note was we talked about a bit, but I was just you don't
even have to answer this, but I just was like, man, Cora
and the good hair guy. Was it the first time they got it on?
I can't remember if they were getting on and he was implied. I
couldn't remember. I thought that they were sorry. I had assumed that they
did, just with how early on they were just slapping cheeks together. Yeah,
and this one, but I don't remember the specific scene. I was
just wondering how I'd feel in that position if I single again, and you
know, let's i've lost Emily and then you know, I'm with somebody and
maybe this is my I'm just gonna say this story. It's my first time.
I hook up with them, first time, and the first thing they
tell me is a story about they killed some fucking kid. Like man,
that's been a huge range of emotions and he accepts it. He just go
accept you for who you are. Well, I have more questions, dude,
Like I don't know, like i'd be looking at her like this,
like what did you say? But yeah, so I thought that was kind
of fun. That's how I get. I thought it was a little weird
to put that scene there, and then later on they all tell their origin
stories so you could just say it there. But yeah, I guess guess
he was fine. Hopefully he wasn't like fucking harder something by the fact that,
oh, you kill the royal family. Oh yeah, I hate it.
It's just so ready to go to what she's saying, having sex tonight.
Yeah, yeah, No, Unfortunately I don't. I don't have much
because it's that that's always some of my negative things as to me, when
the movie is lackluster and there's a lot of action, there's not much to
talk about because like we're not gonna sit here and do a breakdown of each
scene and I shout all the scenes to me that were cool, you know,
but uh, there's a lot of just characters fighting and doing stuff.
And uh even then too, same thing, Like I've seen other people and
I'm happy for them that go oh, this is like sax and our action.
This is what I'm looking for for me. It's not on the same
length of like A three hundred or Watchman or BVS where it's like, Okay,
those action scenes like really stand out, Like I will always defend like
because I know some people don't like some of the stupidity moments, but like
I think Batman us Supman, that's a great fucking fight scene with those two.
I think that's like a very well done cinematic like you feel it this
is it just sometimes feels very uh video game at times where it's like,
Okay, I'm just watching. And so again, maybe if I was invested
in all these characters, I wouldn't feel that way. Maybe I'd be hanging
on the edge of my seat of each time. But like, we lost
Nemesis and I don't know, there's this little storyline she had with a boy
where they locked eyes for a couple of times and now they're each other's best
buddies, and I'm supposed to feel emotional but not really, you know,
Like and Nemesis was gone and I didn't care. I was like, okay,
cool, Like someone else is gonna get the lightsaber moving on, moving
on, Yeah, what would you rate this, mister Patzer? I man
like, coming into this, I did not think I was anywhere near fail,
but like, the more we talk about it, am I really gonna
pass this movie? Yeah? I don't think so. I think I'm gonna
give it a four point five. Okay, four point five, almost a
pass. But it's just two same seeds of the first one, not really
pushing the overall direction of the story for my liking, and just real,
real misplay with the focus on where they wanted to go with with certain characters
I think, and who we wanted to shine some light on. I think
it would have been maybe best focused elsewhere on some different things. And yeah,
I don't know, I'm still in that category of individuals. I think
this probably would have been better as a TV series, but that's not the
world we're living in. And yeah, definitely, I'm not too curious about
the rated our version. I don't think it has enough in there to really
save me, or not save me, save this movie from my failing grade.
But yeah, yeah, the rated our versions to me would have been
like if we were still in Strike and we got that moment where it's like
Okay, you know, there's lack of content. This is kind of like
similar with the Justice League thing right that came out during COVID, And they're
very smart, and I think that's why a lot of people watched it too,
because like, well there's not much to watch, but we're not in
that moment anymore. Yeah, I'm notch lower than you. I'm four out
of five because I think I need more for a point to get it.
But yeah, I think the first one I gave it like a five,
like I didn't give it was no harder than a six, so I know
that. Yeah, so maybe it was there. But yeah, now I'm
not gonna say retroactive, I would fail that one. I'd have to go
back. But this certainly didn't make that half stronger. If anything, it
made weaker, which is not a great thing, you know. So yeah,
a four. I can't remember what I I would have never thought that
I would have ranked anything higher than Sucker Punch. But like even Sucker Punch,
which many times I really didn't like, at least there was some interesting
things going on to me, where this never has that. To me,
that's like has interesting things, and then they kind of you know, bungle
some of the reveals or just the pacing of it. But this is just
like I'm never too interested. So unfortunately because the first roblem when I got
lots of Sucker Punch five, just even with some of the action stuff.
But I think, unfortunately, I would probably agree with people that if they
say this one of these films are his worst films, I would I would
leave that to Direction now, And I didn't think i'd say it because I
do not like Sucker Punch. But it's just the same thing of like,
if I had to pick one to watch again, what would I pick?
And I think I'd pick Sucker Punch, which I never thought i'd say,
But I think I would over these two. You know, I might lean
that direction as well. Yeah, at least it was ascar Isaac's in there,
you know. So I also liked it more than you, so that's
true, right, yeah, yeah, for so for sure for you.
So there you go. So all right, ladies, gentlemen, So yeah,
we'll see, Well, who knows if then you make up part three,
well we will see, maybe get some opinionspeed Taylor solo review for the
third part Taylor and Dylan. We'll get Dylan make sure Dylan doesn't watch part
one and part two though, just like he did with Ghostbusters just fresh out.
But uh yeah, let us know. Let us if you did watch
it in our discord that's the link below. Lessenar your thoughts if there's something
we missed, if there's something that you thought was really good and paused that
we didn't talk about. We have in perspective. We're always open like we
as we said before, like you know, we you know, a couple
of weeks ago to promote a moving to Vodka stream. Those most Snyder die
are people we and people like we have people in our discard like that.
It's it's not a thing where I'm not out to hate the guy. I
hope the next movie I see is great. And I also don't think it's
like one of the worst things ever. I think people just use lots of
that stuff with Snyder because like it's an easy like all Lol, he makes
another bad movie. But it's like, well, I guarantee you this year,
there's probably fifty movies you could watch that are a million times worse than
this. So it's like, you know, just like what you like,
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