WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.000 --> 00:00:08.439 It's time for coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven to 2 00:00:08.519 --> 00:00:35.759 nine day. Now here's Nick Coffee. I'm checking here to see the current 3 00:00:35.840 --> 00:00:40.280 spread for tonight's National Championship game Yukon minus six and a half, which I 4 00:00:40.320 --> 00:00:43.920 believe it's been at for a while now. Well, I guess I don't 5 00:00:43.920 --> 00:00:46.399 know what it opened at, but I remember the first line I saw was 6 00:00:46.560 --> 00:00:50.840 Yukon minus six and a half, and I still feel like that's I don't 7 00:00:50.840 --> 00:00:53.280 know, I guess that's fair. No, Yukon has been dominant, but 8 00:00:53.320 --> 00:00:57.359 they really didn't turn it on against Alabama until towards the end of the game. 9 00:00:57.759 --> 00:00:59.840 But that's kind of what they do, right, Like even really good 10 00:00:59.880 --> 00:01:06.040 teams can can hang with them until you know you can't. But I probably 11 00:01:06.079 --> 00:01:10.280 won't bet tonight because I don't have any like, you know, it's one 12 00:01:10.359 --> 00:01:12.040 game I can't parlay, and I guess I could do a same game parlay 13 00:01:12.120 --> 00:01:15.599 do player props, and that's fun. I enjoy doing that stuff, but 14 00:01:15.680 --> 00:01:19.719 also I kind of just want to enjoy the game, like I don't want 15 00:01:19.760 --> 00:01:23.200 to have any real like I mean this, I have no rooting interest in 16 00:01:23.239 --> 00:01:26.519 this at all at all, I don't care if Ukon wins. I don't 17 00:01:26.560 --> 00:01:29.799 care if Purdue wins. I kind of think it would be cool to see 18 00:01:29.799 --> 00:01:33.000 a back to back title winner just because it hasn't happened in so long. 19 00:01:33.719 --> 00:01:36.159 But I also kind of think it'd be cool for Purdue to win, because 20 00:01:37.239 --> 00:01:38.760 that would be I don't know what it would I don't know what it would 21 00:01:38.760 --> 00:01:45.799 say about college basketball, if anything, but it would be a crazy stack 22 00:01:45.879 --> 00:01:49.159 to throw out there in thirty years or so or even you know, tomorrow. 23 00:01:49.200 --> 00:01:52.760 To be honest with you, that we thought we'd never ever see ever 24 00:01:53.040 --> 00:01:57.599 a sixteen seed beat a one ever, and then it happened twice in each 25 00:01:57.519 --> 00:02:00.840 instance. The next year that team went back to win the national championship. 26 00:02:00.920 --> 00:02:06.719 That's crazy. I mean. So I kind of want to watch it without 27 00:02:06.760 --> 00:02:09.560 any feeling as far as you know. I mean, I'm gonna be into 28 00:02:09.560 --> 00:02:12.680 the game and I'm hoping that it's a good game, but I just want 29 00:02:12.719 --> 00:02:15.479 to watch and see what happens, which you know, I haven't done that 30 00:02:15.520 --> 00:02:19.080 in a while, John, because I now love that we can bet on 31 00:02:19.080 --> 00:02:21.960 sports, and I love having some skin in the game and some emotional interest. 32 00:02:22.000 --> 00:02:23.319 But with this one, I'm kind of just like, you know what, 33 00:02:23.439 --> 00:02:24.800 let's see what happens. I don't want to I don't want to bet 34 00:02:24.840 --> 00:02:29.280 twenty or thirty on Yukon and then if they don't cover, I'll be I'll 35 00:02:29.280 --> 00:02:30.439 be mad. So I kind of just want to go in you know, 36 00:02:30.759 --> 00:02:36.240 sober here. If you knew that Dan Hurley losing tonight meant that he was 37 00:02:36.280 --> 00:02:38.439 going to be the next Kentucky coach, would you be rooting for Yukon to 38 00:02:38.479 --> 00:02:44.039 win tonight for sure? Yes, to answer your question, yes, and 39 00:02:44.120 --> 00:02:46.120 maybe you know. In my mind, to me, he's the He's the 40 00:02:46.199 --> 00:02:51.840 ultimate wild card of candidates for Kentucky just because some would say, well, 41 00:02:51.840 --> 00:02:54.319 he wouldn't leave because he's at Yukon. He's got a monster who would abandoned 42 00:02:54.360 --> 00:02:59.800 something like that. And it comes down to again, as I mentioned, 43 00:03:00.400 --> 00:03:04.800 the personality of the person, not the coach. I mean again, the 44 00:03:04.800 --> 00:03:08.000 coach is the person, you know what I mean. But nobody would leave 45 00:03:09.080 --> 00:03:16.520 a program with that momentum that doesn't look to be slowing down. But if 46 00:03:16.599 --> 00:03:21.280 Dan Hurley's somebody that truly does value being at the tip top of the sport, 47 00:03:21.360 --> 00:03:23.240 and he is that right now as a coach, there's no doubt about 48 00:03:23.240 --> 00:03:28.199 it. And Yukon is phenomenal, but like Yukon doesn't have the national reach, 49 00:03:28.319 --> 00:03:30.400 Yukon does not have the fan base that Kentucky has. They're great, 50 00:03:30.520 --> 00:03:35.759 but like Kentucky's different. And if he values those kind of things that come 51 00:03:35.759 --> 00:03:38.000 with a job, and he doesn't look at it as a bother, he 52 00:03:38.000 --> 00:03:40.639 looks at it as something he would want, then I could see him leaving. 53 00:03:42.919 --> 00:03:45.319 But I don't know if he's that guy or not. Right, Like, 54 00:03:45.319 --> 00:03:47.960 I don't know, because it's all about preferences and everybody has different preferences. 55 00:03:49.879 --> 00:03:53.080 Yeah, I don't want him to coach Kentucky. I mean, in 56 00:03:53.120 --> 00:03:59.039 fact, I wonder, if you're a Louisville fan, like, who do 57 00:03:59.080 --> 00:04:02.199 you hope they hire among the candidates. I think the answer is obvious, 58 00:04:03.360 --> 00:04:09.599 very obvious. It's Scott Drew because he's boring. He would not give them 59 00:04:09.639 --> 00:04:14.479 in any way the cool factor. I'm quite sure he's only you know, 60 00:04:15.960 --> 00:04:18.800 well, do you remember the caller who made a reference to Scott Drew one 61 00:04:18.839 --> 00:04:24.639 time, saying something about his religious views or something. Well, I'm pretty 62 00:04:24.639 --> 00:04:28.720 sure he said something along the line he's only had sex missionary style. Oh, 63 00:04:28.759 --> 00:04:32.240 that's right, yeah, so Texter, I don't caller said that. 64 00:04:32.399 --> 00:04:35.160 I feel like it might have been a postgame show call because things get a 65 00:04:35.160 --> 00:04:39.480 little weird during those shows, right, But like, unfortunately, I've never 66 00:04:40.480 --> 00:04:44.160 It's unfortunate in a variety of ways, but I've never not thought about that 67 00:04:44.199 --> 00:04:46.439 whenever I think of Scott Drew, which is not a visual that I want, 68 00:04:46.480 --> 00:04:49.839 But you know what, like he's that vanilla, he's a good coach. 69 00:04:50.319 --> 00:04:53.600 I don't think Kentucky fans should turn their nose up at him, but 70 00:04:53.639 --> 00:04:59.759 I also understand why they would because again, his national title is valuable. 71 00:05:00.120 --> 00:05:02.519 It's something that like, it's the ultimate accomplishment. A lot of great coaches 72 00:05:02.519 --> 00:05:08.560 have coached and never won a national championship. But all of his other results 73 00:05:10.120 --> 00:05:15.600 that make up his resume, you know why, they're really impressive because he 74 00:05:15.639 --> 00:05:19.920 did a Baylor just like Dusty may wedding at a place that doesn't have the 75 00:05:19.959 --> 00:05:24.639 history of winning is valuable. It's a good sign. But I feel like 76 00:05:24.639 --> 00:05:28.199 when you get to that point, he kind of shows that there's you know, 77 00:05:28.199 --> 00:05:30.519 there's not a whole lot there that you would really you know that you 78 00:05:30.519 --> 00:05:33.920 can just pinpoint like he has one final four I believe it is or does 79 00:05:33.920 --> 00:05:36.439 he have two? I think his only final four was the year they won 80 00:05:36.519 --> 00:05:41.600 it all. So Scott Drew to me, seems like the least dangerous coach 81 00:05:41.639 --> 00:05:46.000 as far as a guy that like he'll win and maybe he'll be better than 82 00:05:46.040 --> 00:05:48.920 Cali Perry, but he won't have the first five years that Cali Perry had. 83 00:05:49.639 --> 00:05:55.839 And there's nothing about like you can be like corny cool, you can 84 00:05:55.920 --> 00:06:00.600 be very self aware, like Pat Kelcey. People can say he was corny, 85 00:06:00.600 --> 00:06:02.639 and maybe he is in the eyes of some as far as like his 86 00:06:02.720 --> 00:06:08.639 press conference, but like he owned the room, not because maybe he's the 87 00:06:08.639 --> 00:06:12.920 coolest guy, but like he was so self aware, was very aware of 88 00:06:12.959 --> 00:06:15.560 the situation and he leaned into it. He was self deprecating. Like even 89 00:06:15.639 --> 00:06:18.480 Kentucky fans listening to that press conference said, man, I think I might 90 00:06:18.560 --> 00:06:23.120 like this guy, but they know once it starts and like the rivalry's on 91 00:06:23.680 --> 00:06:26.480 and he's maybe you know, jabbing him or whatever it may be, then 92 00:06:26.480 --> 00:06:30.040 it'll they'll naturally become haters of his And that's just how this should be. 93 00:06:30.079 --> 00:06:34.720 That's the way it should work. But like, if I'm just from a 94 00:06:34.759 --> 00:06:38.319 Louisville fans perspective. I'm glad you asked that question, John, because it's 95 00:06:38.360 --> 00:06:46.000 now it's now making me think about preferential arrangement here, Like, if you're 96 00:06:46.000 --> 00:06:47.399 a Louisville fan, who do you least want him to get? Who do 97 00:06:47.439 --> 00:06:49.920 you hope they get? Because there's the reality they're gonna get a really good 98 00:06:49.920 --> 00:06:54.720 coach, it's Kentucky. They're not gonna go get somebody that is not want 99 00:06:54.720 --> 00:06:59.240 at a high level. And I still think the names that everybody seems to 100 00:06:59.279 --> 00:07:03.519 be talking about, I'd be highly, highly shocked. I'd wager a lot 101 00:07:03.519 --> 00:07:08.079 of money that I don't have that it's gonna be one of these five names. 102 00:07:08.759 --> 00:07:13.079 And I'm not naming them in any particular order. Scott Drew, Billy 103 00:07:13.120 --> 00:07:18.920 Donovan, Jay Wright, Natoates, and Danny Hurley. I think it's gonna 104 00:07:18.959 --> 00:07:23.800 be one of those five. I don't even know where they'd go after that. 105 00:07:24.600 --> 00:07:30.800 Maybe Bruce Pearl, yeah, maybe. I mean Shaka maybe, but 106 00:07:30.920 --> 00:07:35.920 he's clearly going to be in that secondary list, right So you know, 107 00:07:36.000 --> 00:07:40.600 I think the one I would most like them to get would be would be 108 00:07:40.639 --> 00:07:44.319 Scott Drew because you know he's a good coach, but he doesn't give them. 109 00:07:44.600 --> 00:07:47.279 He's not gonna stir the pot. He's literally the antithesis of John Cowell. 110 00:07:47.319 --> 00:07:49.639 He's boring. He's boring. Look, if he wins at a high 111 00:07:49.720 --> 00:07:54.959 level, nobody would really care. But I think Kentucky became accustomed to like 112 00:07:55.000 --> 00:08:00.240 having a guy with like a lot of flair, and that's Caliperry and he's 113 00:08:00.240 --> 00:08:05.240 sort of a larger than life figure within college basketball. And that's and if 114 00:08:05.240 --> 00:08:07.399 they go get Jay Wright, they're getting it. I mean, Jay Writ's 115 00:08:07.399 --> 00:08:09.920 a really likable guy, but like he's he's a big name, Like Jay 116 00:08:09.920 --> 00:08:13.560 Writes, a brand name in college basketball. Billy Donovan hadn't been there in 117 00:08:13.600 --> 00:08:16.639 a while, but he's a brand name in basketball overall, not just college 118 00:08:16.680 --> 00:08:22.879 basketball. Natoates is the new hot guy on the market, right, I 119 00:08:22.879 --> 00:08:28.920 mean he just broke through with a Final Four. He's the analytical yeah, 120 00:08:28.920 --> 00:08:31.799 but he's got more substance to his run. I mean he yeah, yeah, 121 00:08:31.840 --> 00:08:35.000 But you're right in that aspect. As far as being a new guy 122 00:08:35.039 --> 00:08:37.759 that punched his ticket to the Final four, there's definitely that there. But 123 00:08:37.840 --> 00:08:41.039 this was a breakthrough year for him just because you know, they made it 124 00:08:41.039 --> 00:08:43.799 all the way to the Final four. And that matters. And he's been 125 00:08:43.799 --> 00:08:46.200 good really every year since he's been there, so he's the new guy that 126 00:08:46.279 --> 00:08:48.279 like, if they got him, I could see them really embracing it. 127 00:08:48.320 --> 00:08:50.759 And I think he would kill it. There. Who's the other name, 128 00:08:52.879 --> 00:09:00.879 Donovan, right, Drew, He's the last one? Yeah, Hurley would 129 00:09:00.879 --> 00:09:03.840 I mean Hurley? I think just Hurley's so freaking good that, like you, 130 00:09:03.919 --> 00:09:05.879 that will show that I mean, not that we don't already know this, 131 00:09:07.000 --> 00:09:09.960 that will show that Kentucky can pick and choose whoever they want if they 132 00:09:09.960 --> 00:09:13.759 get Dan Hurley, and and it pains me to say it, but I'm 133 00:09:13.759 --> 00:09:18.639 also a realist. Kentucky is the job that anybody taking it you cannot deep 134 00:09:18.679 --> 00:09:22.679 down consider it to be a shock because it's Kentucky. I mean, that's 135 00:09:22.720 --> 00:09:24.519 just the truth. And there's not many, if any jobs that can say 136 00:09:24.519 --> 00:09:28.679 that at that level. I mean, I think, you know, obviously 137 00:09:28.919 --> 00:09:33.919 Carolina and Kansas, those are the other two jobs that I would put up 138 00:09:33.960 --> 00:09:35.120 there as the top three in the sport. And I don't think there's a 139 00:09:35.159 --> 00:09:43.440 distant fourth. So it would be a statement if they could pull him, 140 00:09:43.480 --> 00:09:45.799 and I don't think they will, deep down, like I don't believe they 141 00:09:45.840 --> 00:09:48.360 will. But again, I'm not gonna sit here and say there's no chance 142 00:09:48.399 --> 00:09:50.200 he'd leave Yukon. Whenever. If he does, I you know, it 143 00:09:50.200 --> 00:09:54.080 wouldn't be that big of a shock. So out of those names we talked 144 00:09:54.080 --> 00:09:56.480 about, the one that I would that I would most want them to get 145 00:09:56.519 --> 00:10:01.159 is Scotch Drew because even if they're good, they're gonna be boring and you 146 00:10:01.159 --> 00:10:07.039 know, not interesting. And the guy that I would least want him to 147 00:10:07.080 --> 00:10:09.159 get is Danny Hurley because I just think one it would be a statement for 148 00:10:09.159 --> 00:10:11.919 them, no doubt, and he's he's on top of the sport right now. 149 00:10:13.440 --> 00:10:16.799 Who do you think they'd be the most impatient with, because I think 150 00:10:16.840 --> 00:10:20.519 it's Natoates. I think if he has if he's underwhelming early, then fans 151 00:10:20.559 --> 00:10:28.399 won't be excited about Natoates. Oh, I'd say the impatience would be I 152 00:10:28.399 --> 00:10:33.240 think they'd be more impatient with Scott Drew, but Natos right behind him. 153 00:10:33.639 --> 00:10:37.960 And then with Jay Wright and Billy Donovan, I really have no clue what 154 00:10:37.960 --> 00:10:41.720 they would realistically expect as two guys that haven't been in the game in a 155 00:10:41.720 --> 00:10:45.480 while, but Billy Donovan coaching college in ten years that's such a wild card, 156 00:10:45.559 --> 00:10:46.960 Like you know that he can do well, but if he can, 157 00:10:48.200 --> 00:10:50.759 he can have to show a job just to the transfer portal and everything else. 158 00:10:52.120 --> 00:10:56.360 Yeah, So I you know, I as far as like who I 159 00:10:56.360 --> 00:11:01.279 would feel the best about not delivering, you know, the guy that I 160 00:11:01.279 --> 00:11:03.039 would be happy with because the guy that i'd be happy with the Kentucky is 161 00:11:03.039 --> 00:11:05.799 the guy that's not winning. Because I'm a Lois a fan, right, 162 00:11:05.240 --> 00:11:09.639 So I would go with Scott Drew for a variety of reasons because he's a 163 00:11:09.639 --> 00:11:13.879 good coach, but like, I don't know if he'd ever break through and 164 00:11:13.919 --> 00:11:18.200 be a frequent participant in the Final four. I really don't. But outside 165 00:11:18.200 --> 00:11:22.000 of that, I'd probably go Billy Donovan, which is crazy to some people, 166 00:11:22.000 --> 00:11:24.600 but it's because of how long he's been away from it. Like I 167 00:11:24.600 --> 00:11:26.679 just never thought it was realistic that he would ever want to be back in 168 00:11:26.720 --> 00:11:30.480 college because again, the things he hated about being a college basketball coach that 169 00:11:30.559 --> 00:11:35.240 made him leave Florida is ten times worse now because of the Portland nil. 170 00:11:35.919 --> 00:11:39.919 So I just feel like it would be an adjustment for him, and I 171 00:11:39.960 --> 00:11:43.480 just think at this point in his life in his career, like he knows 172 00:11:43.519 --> 00:11:46.919 what Kentucky is is a job he does probably better than a lot of coaches, 173 00:11:46.960 --> 00:11:50.120 just because of how close he was when he was in the SEC at 174 00:11:50.120 --> 00:11:54.080 Florida, because of his strong relationship with Rick Ptino, Like he knows, 175 00:11:54.120 --> 00:11:56.559 and I just don't feel like he'd have any interest in entering that world right 176 00:11:56.600 --> 00:12:01.399 now. But I could be wrong, and then I would put I'd put 177 00:12:01.519 --> 00:12:05.360 Jay Wright in the middle just because of the same thing. Like obviously, 178 00:12:05.440 --> 00:12:09.720 Jay Wright is is a really good coach, and anybody who could get Jay 179 00:12:09.720 --> 00:12:11.840 Wright to come out of retirement and coach their team should consider themselves lucky. 180 00:12:11.879 --> 00:12:16.320 But again, the game has changed since he walked away, and Jay Wright 181 00:12:16.360 --> 00:12:20.279 at NOVA was great at the end, but he also had a bunch of 182 00:12:20.360 --> 00:12:28.639 years where he I mean at NOVA Sweet sixteen and an Elite eight in two 183 00:12:28.679 --> 00:12:33.320 thousand and four through two thousand and six those two seasons, and then a 184 00:12:33.360 --> 00:12:35.240 Sweet sixteen in two thousand and eight. He made a Final four in two 185 00:12:35.240 --> 00:12:39.320 thousand and nine that was his really good run, and then he won one 186 00:12:39.360 --> 00:12:43.120 tournament game in five years, and then of course he really got rolling in 187 00:12:43.159 --> 00:12:48.000 twenty sixteen where he won the title. Next year around to thirty two loss. 188 00:12:48.039 --> 00:12:50.360 Next year, won the title, made the final four in twenty twenty 189 00:12:50.360 --> 00:12:54.039 two, which was his last year there. So I mean, he's he's 190 00:12:54.039 --> 00:12:58.960 great. Anybody should you know he would succeed there. I just again, 191 00:13:00.279 --> 00:13:03.840 would it be as quick of a process because of the new world that is 192 00:13:05.320 --> 00:13:07.039 college basketball within isle on the portal. But the two coaches that I think 193 00:13:07.080 --> 00:13:13.279 would actually have the most success there if they took the job is Danny Hurley 194 00:13:13.519 --> 00:13:20.399 and Natoates. I just think they would. They're they're clearly thriving now when 195 00:13:20.440 --> 00:13:22.320 the new world is is you know, still new, but it's I mean, 196 00:13:22.360 --> 00:13:26.120 they're succeeding in that department in a major way, and they're doing it 197 00:13:26.159 --> 00:13:28.320 at places that are I mean, Yukon's a great program, has a lot 198 00:13:28.320 --> 00:13:33.519 of great resources. Alabama not historically a great basketball program, but certainly they 199 00:13:33.600 --> 00:13:35.919 have resources, they're in the SEC, they've got money, they've got a 200 00:13:35.919 --> 00:13:39.360 big fan base. So to see what those two coaches could do at a 201 00:13:39.399 --> 00:13:41.159 place like Kentucky, I think they would really really succeed at a high level. 202 00:13:41.159 --> 00:13:43.879 And of course I'm a loive of fence. I don't want that, 203 00:13:43.960 --> 00:13:48.000 but man, you're like, if it's not one of those five, who 204 00:13:48.120 --> 00:13:52.159 where would they go? Would it be Bruce Pearl Pearl's I think you hit 205 00:13:52.159 --> 00:13:56.360 the nail on the head with Bruce Pearl because again, and he's always he's 206 00:13:56.360 --> 00:13:58.919 always flirted with them, like when he's you know, him and cal have 207 00:14:00.120 --> 00:14:03.120 their relationship, you know, like they're not friendly with each other, they 208 00:14:03.120 --> 00:14:05.360 don't like each other. But Pearl's one of those guys that always talks up 209 00:14:05.440 --> 00:14:09.679 Kentucky and the program and the fans, and you know there's coaches along the 210 00:14:09.720 --> 00:14:13.039 way that do that, and you know they're doing it in case like they 211 00:14:13.039 --> 00:14:15.320 ever end up in a position where maybe they could get the job. So 212 00:14:15.360 --> 00:14:18.000 I think Pearl would abandoned Auburn quickly to go to UK. But I don't 213 00:14:18.039 --> 00:14:22.879 know. Like the Barnhart element is a big factor because he wants to get 214 00:14:22.919 --> 00:14:26.799 a guy that can win. There's no doubt about that. And if any 215 00:14:26.799 --> 00:14:28.039 of these names we've talked about, even if you include Bruce Pearl, those 216 00:14:28.039 --> 00:14:33.279 are coaches that win. But him having such a toxic relationship or really not, 217 00:14:33.799 --> 00:14:37.919 it's a toxic situation because the two didn't have a relationship. Mitch Barnhart 218 00:14:37.960 --> 00:14:41.879 and John Calipari did not have a relationship. They did not communicate Cali Perry 219 00:14:41.919 --> 00:14:46.320 did not see him as his boss, which again that's not good for anybody 220 00:14:46.320 --> 00:14:50.279 in the athletic department. So with that, I think he's going to be 221 00:14:52.320 --> 00:14:54.919 desperate to find a guy that he knows he would work really well with and 222 00:14:54.960 --> 00:15:01.919 they would be aligned, not just you know, in a professional sense as 223 00:15:01.919 --> 00:15:05.399 far as the job and the you know, the objective in hand here, 224 00:15:05.679 --> 00:15:09.600 but also they're really aligned in life outside of basketball, with faith and that 225 00:15:09.679 --> 00:15:15.799 kind of stuff. And that shouldn't be why Mitch Barnhart wants to go get 226 00:15:15.840 --> 00:15:18.080 a coach. But if he can get a coach who has a national championship 227 00:15:18.080 --> 00:15:22.240 in the last few years that he knows really well, I mean, I 228 00:15:22.240 --> 00:15:24.559 think that makes it obvious that that would be the direction he would go. 229 00:15:24.200 --> 00:15:28.320 Here's another one with great postseason success, but they've not won the whole thing 230 00:15:28.559 --> 00:15:33.639 is Mark feu Yeah again, but would he ever leave Gonzaga Again, it's 231 00:15:33.639 --> 00:15:37.759 a lot like he'd be lucky that they would offer him and they should. 232 00:15:37.840 --> 00:15:39.240 I mean, like that's not Again, why do you think it is that 233 00:15:39.320 --> 00:15:43.519 he still never really gets mentioned for jobs. It's because people just assume he 234 00:15:43.559 --> 00:15:46.039 never leave Gonzaga, or maybe they're just not that impressed with him. I 235 00:15:46.080 --> 00:15:52.159 think it's probably a little bit of both. Yeah, I really don't know. 236 00:15:52.240 --> 00:15:54.039 It's it's very weird. I think part of it, too, is 237 00:15:54.039 --> 00:15:58.639 that we're not on the West Coast. I feel like all those West Coast 238 00:15:58.720 --> 00:16:00.399 coaches kind of get shoved on the rug force a little bit, like Tommy 239 00:16:00.440 --> 00:16:04.080 Lloyd and Arizona. Another name that we rarely talk about around here, So 240 00:16:04.120 --> 00:16:10.080 a name that I saw put out there by Kyle Tucker of the Athletic who 241 00:16:10.120 --> 00:16:15.440 I think right now is probably as close as anybody with the Kentucky basketball program. 242 00:16:15.519 --> 00:16:18.879 And it's not because of Cala Perry directly. It's because of you know, 243 00:16:18.919 --> 00:16:21.559 other people that are around that you know, probably aren't the basketball staff. 244 00:16:21.559 --> 00:16:26.919 But he's mentioned Sean Miller at Xavier, and I like Sean Miller was 245 00:16:26.919 --> 00:16:30.840 a fine coach at Arizona. But I just don't know. I don't think 246 00:16:30.840 --> 00:16:34.320 that would be a big hit for Kentucky fans. I could be wrong. 247 00:16:36.799 --> 00:16:40.240 And then we talked about Patino a little bit earlier. I just don't I 248 00:16:40.240 --> 00:16:44.559 don't think that's I don't think that's gonna happen. But man, if it 249 00:16:44.679 --> 00:16:49.519 did talking. Oh my god, it'd be weird, it would be I 250 00:16:49.600 --> 00:16:52.919 kind of want it to happen in a way. But then again, I 251 00:16:52.919 --> 00:16:55.480 don't really want to hate Rick, you know what I mean. And there'd 252 00:16:55.480 --> 00:16:57.240 be no way where I couldn't if he coached Kentucky because then not only that, 253 00:16:57.279 --> 00:17:00.559 not only would you have the Cali Perry wanting to get back back at 254 00:17:00.639 --> 00:17:04.880 Kentucky fans dynamic, you'd have Rick Patina wanting to get back at Louisville. 255 00:17:06.039 --> 00:17:08.200 Maybe not the fans necessarily, but at Louisville the university. Yeah, And 256 00:17:08.440 --> 00:17:12.119 that's what That's what makes it tricky with Rick is because at this point, 257 00:17:12.480 --> 00:17:15.880 you know, he feels a certain way about the whole experience and how it 258 00:17:17.000 --> 00:17:19.359 ended. But at least and I was happy that he did acknowledge this at 259 00:17:19.359 --> 00:17:22.720 one point. I think the last time he had publicly talked about Louisville might 260 00:17:22.720 --> 00:17:26.680 have been I think it might have been an article by Seth Davis during this 261 00:17:26.759 --> 00:17:30.759 past season, and he acknowledged that the people who who you know, in 262 00:17:30.799 --> 00:17:34.880 his mind, railroaded him and ran him out of town. They're not involved 263 00:17:34.880 --> 00:17:37.039 at u of L, and they don't, they don't. They're not like 264 00:17:37.039 --> 00:17:41.519 it was Bevan who's no longer the governor, and David Grissom, who's no 265 00:17:41.559 --> 00:17:44.519 longer a board member. I mean, I think that's who he viewed as 266 00:17:44.559 --> 00:17:47.039 being those that put things in motion to get rid of him. Whether that's 267 00:17:47.079 --> 00:17:48.119 right or wrong, I don't know. I mean I think it is right. 268 00:17:48.160 --> 00:17:52.160 But you know, he knows those people have no involvement, and he 269 00:17:52.200 --> 00:17:57.799 knows that Louisville fans didn't didn't really want that to happen, so but he'd 270 00:17:57.799 --> 00:18:00.799 take it. There's no doubt about it. Patino would walk from Saint John's 271 00:18:02.400 --> 00:18:03.799 to Kentucky. Well, it doesn't make it, make it unrealistic, then 272 00:18:03.799 --> 00:18:07.920 I don't think I don't Barnard, Yeah, that's true. I mean the 273 00:18:08.000 --> 00:18:11.960 last time Rick Patino was in Repperena, when he walked off the floor, 274 00:18:12.000 --> 00:18:17.960 he flipped off the fence, like flipped off Repperenda fans like, imagine if 275 00:18:18.000 --> 00:18:22.039 he ends up actually getting involved in this search and gets the job, that 276 00:18:22.039 --> 00:18:23.519 would be I mean, it'd be one of those things where you say, 277 00:18:23.559 --> 00:18:26.759 look, you can't make this stuff up if you missed it earlier, John 278 00:18:26.799 --> 00:18:34.440 Kella Perry, because again, this is absolutely the way he's wired. He's 279 00:18:34.480 --> 00:18:37.000 about to probably get on a plane. Maybe he's already gone on the plane 280 00:18:37.000 --> 00:18:41.640 since this video hit the internet, but he's about to be introduced as the 281 00:18:41.640 --> 00:18:45.039 next Arkansas head coach. He's gonna be calling the hogs woop, pig suiye, 282 00:18:45.039 --> 00:18:51.079 all that stuff. And he's walking his dog down Richmond Road in Lexington, 283 00:18:51.119 --> 00:18:53.000 which I've since learned is a very busy road with a ton of traffic, 284 00:18:53.279 --> 00:18:56.759 and he's just walking his dog in one of the busiest times of the 285 00:18:56.839 --> 00:19:00.079 day, knowing people would see him. And it's not a coincidence. He 286 00:19:00.160 --> 00:19:03.680 wants to be I mean, I don't know what he's seeking out of it, 287 00:19:03.640 --> 00:19:07.000 but it's like one last stroll before he leaves town. But make no 288 00:19:07.119 --> 00:19:14.160 mistake about it, he's leaving town bitter, feeling betrayed. And again, 289 00:19:14.279 --> 00:19:17.000 what do you think he was. Clearly we know he wanted people to see 290 00:19:17.079 --> 00:19:19.079 him, but what did he hope that with. Somebody like beg him to 291 00:19:19.079 --> 00:19:22.319 say and he beg him to stay, and he could say, Nope, 292 00:19:22.359 --> 00:19:25.680 not doing it. You were you know, you betrayed me. Like I 293 00:19:25.759 --> 00:19:26.839 just I don't know what the end goal is here, but we know this 294 00:19:26.880 --> 00:19:30.680 is not a random coincidence. He wanted people to see him walking down a 295 00:19:30.759 --> 00:19:33.799 very busy road the day that it's clear that he's leaving, whereas he would 296 00:19:33.799 --> 00:19:37.920 probably never do that in any other day. And you know what I'm saying, 297 00:19:37.920 --> 00:19:41.039 like, this is something he's doing now that he would never do beforehand. 298 00:19:42.880 --> 00:19:48.599 Hey, coach, you get things right now. You were saying, 299 00:19:48.039 --> 00:19:52.519 I'm good. Come on, Palm, come on, palm. This dog's 300 00:19:52.519 --> 00:19:59.640 palmer. My dog. My dog is walking me. Come on. And 301 00:19:59.680 --> 00:20:03.759 I know the cow being col like the no walking my dog right now, 302 00:20:03.799 --> 00:20:07.640 my dog is walking me. He sounds like he said all that with a 303 00:20:07.640 --> 00:20:14.400 smile on his head. Yeah, and he like is somebody who was fortunate 304 00:20:14.480 --> 00:20:18.279 enough to have the Denny Crumb era at Louisville that I remember, Meaning I 305 00:20:18.319 --> 00:20:21.559 didn't get a chance to see the great times because I wasn't alive, but 306 00:20:21.599 --> 00:20:25.240 like, my first memory of loving Louisville basketball was when Denny Crumb was the 307 00:20:25.240 --> 00:20:29.960 coach, and I knew, I was very well aware of who he was 308 00:20:30.000 --> 00:20:36.000 and how influential he was to the program and what he meant to college basketball. 309 00:20:36.039 --> 00:20:38.279 Like I knew that at an early age. So you know, I 310 00:20:40.319 --> 00:20:44.400 watched Diddy kind of be forced out, but then they brought in Rick Patino. 311 00:20:44.599 --> 00:20:48.720 And Rick Patino, I mean it didn't end in a good way by 312 00:20:48.720 --> 00:20:53.160 any means, but like Louisville's run during Patino's era, is why Louisville is 313 00:20:53.200 --> 00:20:56.400 still viewed as a top program. I mean, they had a couple of 314 00:20:56.440 --> 00:20:59.559 rough years here lately, no doubt. But my point is this, like 315 00:20:59.680 --> 00:21:03.799 Rick Tino is somebody that like for however many years he coached here, like 316 00:21:03.839 --> 00:21:06.559 he was the man and we had a lot of good times, final fours 317 00:21:07.079 --> 00:21:10.160 in a national championship. I didn't see that with Denny. I knew it 318 00:21:10.160 --> 00:21:14.400 had happened, so it was special. It was unnatural for me to not 319 00:21:14.640 --> 00:21:17.599 like Rick. Like when Rick got at Iona and he ended up at Saint 320 00:21:17.680 --> 00:21:22.039 John's, I don't feel any way of like the hell with that guy. 321 00:21:22.319 --> 00:21:25.480 But I'm also not like I'm now a Saint John's fan. But when I 322 00:21:25.559 --> 00:21:27.720 see him coaching and I see him being interviewed, and I see him being 323 00:21:27.799 --> 00:21:32.480 him and him having success, I feel a level of like, well, 324 00:21:32.519 --> 00:21:34.920 good for him, because I had an emotional connection to him as my coach 325 00:21:34.920 --> 00:21:38.119 as a fan. You're gonna do that same thing with Cal. But what 326 00:21:38.200 --> 00:21:41.599 I don't know, is how's it gonna be when you're coaching, like you're 327 00:21:41.599 --> 00:21:45.799 playing against him. He's bringing his team to Rupperena next year, and you 328 00:21:45.920 --> 00:21:49.240 know that on his way out he felt betrayed. Patino felt that as well, 329 00:21:49.279 --> 00:21:52.559 but it wasn't towards the fans. It was towards people that he believed 330 00:21:52.559 --> 00:21:57.160 shouldn't even be in the position to make that decision. So like when you 331 00:21:57.200 --> 00:22:03.240 see cal being interviewed with a Arkansas hoodie on or an Arkansas you know, 332 00:22:03.519 --> 00:22:07.720 or I don't know, or just a suit and he's on the bench at 333 00:22:07.799 --> 00:22:11.119 Arkansas, or he's got a team picture with you know, Bobby Batrino, 334 00:22:11.160 --> 00:22:14.519 who's now call him a plays down at Arkansas. Something like that. It's 335 00:22:14.559 --> 00:22:18.359 going to hit you in your weird feelings of like, im what's going through 336 00:22:18.400 --> 00:22:22.319 my body right now, Like I don't like this. I want to maybe 337 00:22:22.359 --> 00:22:25.720 punch the picture of him I'm looking at, but like it's unnatural to just 338 00:22:25.759 --> 00:22:27.960 flip the switch like that. But another thing that's different for Kentucky fans is 339 00:22:27.960 --> 00:22:33.519 that this has been growingly getting worse. So maybe you are bitter and you 340 00:22:33.559 --> 00:22:37.559 say the hell with him. I don't know, but it'll be interesting to 341 00:22:37.559 --> 00:22:38.400 see, no doubt. All right, quick break, we'll come back on 342 00:22:38.400 --> 00:22:41.200 the other side. Keep it rolling along again. It is coffee and Company 343 00:22:41.200 --> 00:22:45.640 and we are fueled by Thornton's right here on Sports Talk seven ninety. Before 344 00:22:45.640 --> 00:22:48.240 we get to the phone lines, let me tell you guys once again about 345 00:22:48.240 --> 00:22:52.359 my friends over at Edlin and Edlind Realtors. 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I mean, 370 00:24:25.519 --> 00:24:27.880 it just still seems weird and just like no way, right. But 371 00:24:27.920 --> 00:24:33.720 then again, once you consider every angle of this situation, it's good for 372 00:24:33.839 --> 00:24:36.920 everybody. Cal won it out. He found a new spot that was willing 373 00:24:36.960 --> 00:24:40.400 to pay him a lot of money, and they still clearly value him, 374 00:24:40.440 --> 00:24:42.599 meaning Arkansas, they think he's worth the money they're about to pay him. 375 00:24:44.079 --> 00:24:47.720 Kentucky wanted a fresh start and they got it now, and they don't have 376 00:24:47.759 --> 00:24:49.000 to pay any money to go do it. I mean, it is a 377 00:24:49.000 --> 00:24:52.200 win win for everybody involved. Now, what I think is interesting is, 378 00:24:52.240 --> 00:24:55.480 you know, five years from now, who's going to look back and feel 379 00:24:56.480 --> 00:24:59.759 better about this playing out the way that he did? Not that anybody would 380 00:24:59.759 --> 00:25:03.319 have rets, because clearly Kentucky with Cali Perry just it was hard to see 381 00:25:03.319 --> 00:25:07.039 them running in this back and being able to really generate excitement for their fans. 382 00:25:07.240 --> 00:25:11.279 But even though Cal does have those embarrassing losses in the last few years, 383 00:25:11.519 --> 00:25:15.000 that really Kentucky's just not used to having. It wasn't as if the 384 00:25:15.039 --> 00:25:18.880 guy was ever wawful as your coach. I mean, in those two seasons 385 00:25:18.880 --> 00:25:22.519 you were a three seed into two seat. Now in college basketball, we're 386 00:25:22.519 --> 00:25:25.359 a little weird with that sport because none of that matters when you lose in 387 00:25:25.359 --> 00:25:26.799 the first round. All right, five about two, five, seven, 388 00:25:26.880 --> 00:25:30.559 one seventy nine hundred is the number. If you want to jump in and 389 00:25:30.559 --> 00:25:32.640 give us a call. Let's go to the phone lines and welcome in. 390 00:25:33.319 --> 00:25:34.599 Joe. Joe, you're on Sports Talk seven ninety. What's up, sir, 391 00:25:36.640 --> 00:25:38.160 A good afternoon. Nick. I called it a couple of weeks ago 392 00:25:38.240 --> 00:25:45.119 when U of L was conducting their search and telling you that I was a 393 00:25:45.240 --> 00:25:48.640 UK fan and I wanted Cal gone, and now now he is, and 394 00:25:49.359 --> 00:25:55.279 I mean, I just I really sympathize with U of L now, because 395 00:25:55.279 --> 00:25:57.319 again, there's not a lot of people out there. I know, I 396 00:25:57.400 --> 00:26:02.200 told you I would call Brands evens. First, I think he'll say no. 397 00:26:02.519 --> 00:26:06.799 I think Hurley would say no. And after that, I mean, 398 00:26:07.599 --> 00:26:10.720 you know, all I would say is this. I mean, I've heard 399 00:26:10.720 --> 00:26:15.440 Patino rumor. As good as he is, I don't think that's a job 400 00:26:15.480 --> 00:26:18.799 for a seventy year old man, and I would agree. The last thing, 401 00:26:18.359 --> 00:26:22.599 and the last thing I'll say is this. I mean, I don't 402 00:26:22.599 --> 00:26:25.839 know who they're gonna get, but I mean, even as a UK fan, 403 00:26:25.920 --> 00:26:29.400 I don't have my head buried in the sand. Then you know you're 404 00:26:29.440 --> 00:26:37.240 not necessar It kind of leads for Arkansas and Musselman leaves a much better historic 405 00:26:37.319 --> 00:26:41.720 program from Arkansas to go to USC. I mean, I hope UK fans 406 00:26:41.960 --> 00:26:45.359 don't necessarily think that Barnhart is going to get his first or second or maybe 407 00:26:45.400 --> 00:26:49.000 even third choice, because if they do, I think they're gonna be terribly 408 00:26:49.039 --> 00:26:52.359 disappointed. Thanks for your time, make Dick, I'll hang up and listen. 409 00:26:52.440 --> 00:26:55.880 Thank you, John. I appreciate the call, sir. Yeah, 410 00:26:56.200 --> 00:27:00.240 you know, it's it is wild because right now and I'm aware that, 411 00:27:00.319 --> 00:27:03.880 like there's no real result to know if this thing is going to be good, 412 00:27:03.920 --> 00:27:07.880 bad, whatever. But Pat Kelsey, in what ten eleven days on 413 00:27:07.920 --> 00:27:11.279 the job, fans are all in on this guy. Not because they think 414 00:27:11.319 --> 00:27:15.039 he's about to win a national championship in a few years, but the bar 415 00:27:15.240 --> 00:27:21.000 was low, and he I think he'd be winning us over even if the 416 00:27:21.000 --> 00:27:22.200 bar wasn't low. When I say the bar is low, I mean Kenny 417 00:27:22.319 --> 00:27:27.400 was lifeless and never acknowledged that he actually wanted to win here, and you 418 00:27:27.400 --> 00:27:30.279 know, I'm sure he did. I don't know how you get the job 419 00:27:30.319 --> 00:27:32.440 without having a level of like, hey, you want to go win and 420 00:27:32.440 --> 00:27:36.160 compete. But obviously engaging with fans can go a long way. Pat Kelsey's 421 00:27:36.160 --> 00:27:38.000 done more of that, I think in ten days than Kenny did at all. 422 00:27:38.039 --> 00:27:41.559 But also kept Pat Kelsey's good at talking, right, he's good at 423 00:27:41.559 --> 00:27:45.240 owning a room, he's good at selling, and he sold himself to us 424 00:27:45.279 --> 00:27:48.039 as far as just you know what. He's all about his values. But 425 00:27:48.079 --> 00:27:52.000 he was not the he was. I mean, he was the fourth choice. 426 00:27:52.119 --> 00:27:55.960 I don't say that to discredit him, but Louisville got their fourth choice, 427 00:27:56.000 --> 00:27:59.640 and right now, vibes are really really strong for Louisville basketball. Now 428 00:27:59.680 --> 00:28:02.480 again, I'm well aware they got to put a team together, the guy 429 00:28:02.559 --> 00:28:07.200 and coached the game, but this was somebody that like got talked about the 430 00:28:07.279 --> 00:28:11.799 least during the search because it just didn't seem realistic that they would go that 431 00:28:11.960 --> 00:28:17.880 route. So Kentucky, you know, I think if they offer Jay Wright, 432 00:28:18.240 --> 00:28:25.480 Danny Hurley, Brad Stevens, Billy Donovan, all of those guys turning 433 00:28:25.519 --> 00:28:30.119 them down, if they decided to go that direction, I don't think it 434 00:28:30.160 --> 00:28:36.759 would be a look for Kentucky. That is damn they've fallen. I'm sure 435 00:28:37.079 --> 00:28:40.240 it would be used against them by Louisville fans, and you know, I'm 436 00:28:40.279 --> 00:28:41.359 fine with that, but you know what I mean, Like, those are 437 00:28:41.400 --> 00:28:45.720 guys who aren't Like, if you offer somebody a job that is not currently 438 00:28:45.759 --> 00:28:49.039 working in said profession, it's not the same thing. I mean, wouldn't 439 00:28:49.039 --> 00:28:52.680 you agree, John, Like you're asking somebody to essentially come out of retirement, 440 00:28:52.720 --> 00:28:56.119 which is Jay Wright and Billy Donovan's coaching in the NBA, Like it's 441 00:28:56.119 --> 00:28:59.160 a different profession. And I will say, of all of those guys, 442 00:28:59.480 --> 00:29:03.000 Jay Wright is the guy who is still the most closely connected with the college 443 00:29:03.039 --> 00:29:07.400 basketball game itself. So if you want any of those three, I think 444 00:29:07.519 --> 00:29:12.119 that'd be your best bet in my opinion. So Hurley again, he's the 445 00:29:12.160 --> 00:29:17.640 wild card for me, just because I don't know if he is somebody that 446 00:29:17.759 --> 00:29:22.400 is personally motivated by climbing the ladder in college basketball. And it sounds silly 447 00:29:22.480 --> 00:29:27.480 to say this given what Yukon has done recently and what they're probably going to 448 00:29:27.559 --> 00:29:30.880 do tonight, as well as the fact that they could get their sixth title 449 00:29:30.920 --> 00:29:36.640 tonight in the last twenty five years. But overall, I'm not even talking 450 00:29:36.720 --> 00:29:41.359 titles, just brand. Kentucky basketball has a much bigger brand than Yukon basketball. 451 00:29:41.359 --> 00:29:45.839 It just is. So if he's personally motivated by climbing the ladder in 452 00:29:45.880 --> 00:29:49.759 his profession, him taking the Kentucky job wouldn't be that big of a surprise. 453 00:29:52.279 --> 00:29:56.960 But also I think Yukon would be willing to Yukon would find whatever money 454 00:29:57.000 --> 00:30:00.880 they could find to make sure they don't lose him because of money, wouldn't 455 00:30:00.880 --> 00:30:03.240 you agree, John? I mean yeah, I mean, why would you 456 00:30:03.279 --> 00:30:06.279 want to lose somebody who's potentially gonna win back to back titles to not like 457 00:30:06.279 --> 00:30:08.079 I think if it gets to like, all right, Kentucky's gonna offer him 458 00:30:08.119 --> 00:30:12.960 twelve million a year, which again crazy, but if anybody's gonna do it, 459 00:30:14.000 --> 00:30:15.920 wouldn't it be Kentucky. They feel like they got money to blow right 460 00:30:15.920 --> 00:30:21.039 now because they got rid of Cal by his own leaving for another job. 461 00:30:21.039 --> 00:30:22.960 They don't have to pay thirty three million to get rid of them. But 462 00:30:23.039 --> 00:30:26.240 I think Yukon would just say, look, we're gonna match it. I 463 00:30:26.240 --> 00:30:27.240 don't know where we're gonna find the money, but we're gonna find it. 464 00:30:27.279 --> 00:30:32.640 Like, I just don't think you would find this is you know. I 465 00:30:32.640 --> 00:30:34.880 actually hope they go after Danny Hurley and just so I can see what the 466 00:30:34.920 --> 00:30:37.599 process is like. As far as like is it Is it a bidding war? 467 00:30:37.720 --> 00:30:44.480 Is it him? You know, like I could see Hurley. Do 468 00:30:44.480 --> 00:30:47.759 you think he's like a jerk? No, I think he's probably one of 469 00:30:47.799 --> 00:30:49.799 the most level headed head coaches right now. Yeah, most of the high 470 00:30:49.880 --> 00:30:55.960 major team. He's intense, He's he's not unrealistic. Yeah, he's intense, 471 00:30:56.000 --> 00:30:59.480 and he's not like a big laugher and jokester. But I don't think 472 00:30:59.480 --> 00:31:02.519 he's like a I think because somebody we had a text to earlier who said 473 00:31:02.559 --> 00:31:06.240 Hurley would be great at Kentucky not only because he'd win, but we would 474 00:31:06.279 --> 00:31:08.200 hate him they're talking about. They're saying it as a Louisville fan, because 475 00:31:08.200 --> 00:31:11.519 you know he's I don't think he's an easy guy like to dislike, but 476 00:31:11.559 --> 00:31:14.880 I think like he really is embraced a Yukon verse the world. And I 477 00:31:14.880 --> 00:31:17.640 don't know if that's just him trying to find motivation when it's quite clear everybody 478 00:31:17.680 --> 00:31:19.160 knows that the best team in college basketball, or if he really believes that, 479 00:31:19.640 --> 00:31:22.599 like, wouldn't be shocked if they come after him and he does like 480 00:31:22.640 --> 00:31:26.839 a public decline, you know what I mean, Like We're I'm good, 481 00:31:26.880 --> 00:31:30.319 you know what I'm saying like that would be because he's he's playing that right 482 00:31:30.359 --> 00:31:33.640 now, and I don't know if it's just because again, everybody's trying to 483 00:31:33.640 --> 00:31:37.640 find an edge motivation, but he feels like he you know, Yukon, 484 00:31:37.960 --> 00:31:41.279 and they can't do the underdog thing because nobody that's not real, Like they 485 00:31:41.319 --> 00:31:42.839 would have to clearly make that up in their own mind. But they're taking 486 00:31:42.880 --> 00:31:48.119 any little, any little chance they get to claim the disrespected we're not getting 487 00:31:48.160 --> 00:31:51.920 the love we should get. He's running with it, and like maybe Kentucky 488 00:31:52.000 --> 00:31:55.559 offering him the job would be like the sign of him getting it, and 489 00:31:55.599 --> 00:31:57.799 he could be like, Nope, you'd have to offer Yukon the job too, 490 00:31:57.799 --> 00:32:00.160 because I'm not like something like that, right. I think that makes 491 00:32:00.279 --> 00:32:05.200 absolute perfect sick because that's just But again, I'm basing that off of just 492 00:32:05.359 --> 00:32:07.400 very little amount of things I've seen and heard from him, because he's still 493 00:32:07.400 --> 00:32:10.559 relatively new at the top here. Let's be honest, this dude didn't break 494 00:32:10.559 --> 00:32:14.160 through until last year and now he's about to go back to back winning national 495 00:32:14.240 --> 00:32:20.119 championships, so you know, him turning them down. I don't think he'd 496 00:32:20.160 --> 00:32:22.079 be considered a shock to anybody. But I also can't sit here and tell 497 00:32:22.079 --> 00:32:28.440 you that. I think it would be like a I mean, if a 498 00:32:28.480 --> 00:32:32.319 guy wins back to back national champions championships and he doesn't leave his job in 499 00:32:32.359 --> 00:32:37.440 that place where he where he's employed currently now has six in twenty five years. 500 00:32:37.920 --> 00:32:40.119 As much as it'd be nice to make fun of him for not getting 501 00:32:40.160 --> 00:32:45.200 him, who would get him? Like nobody would right Like he's he's shocked 502 00:32:45.200 --> 00:32:47.400 in until he wants to leave with them. Yeah exactly, but like if 503 00:32:47.400 --> 00:32:55.599 they started getting to the Natots and the Bruce Pearl and who else, I 504 00:32:55.640 --> 00:32:59.519 mean, Sean Miller would shock like I just had. It's such a weird 505 00:32:59.599 --> 00:33:02.680 name. Yeah, I know it is. Patino would never get offered the 506 00:33:02.799 --> 00:33:09.079 job, and I think still if he gets if they're turned down by those 507 00:33:09.119 --> 00:33:14.279 guys or let's say Scott Drew turned him down, we could easily make fun 508 00:33:14.319 --> 00:33:19.279 of him. But also it would it would probably be because like he knows, 509 00:33:19.319 --> 00:33:22.000 he's not built for what that job is, because he's too you know, 510 00:33:22.119 --> 00:33:28.839 this is something that somebody told me about about Pat Kelsey the day he 511 00:33:28.920 --> 00:33:32.920 was hired that really stuck with me and I I've I've kind of tried to 512 00:33:32.960 --> 00:33:37.519 think about it. When we talk about coaches as far as what do they 513 00:33:37.920 --> 00:33:40.039 and I don't know any of these people personally, so I can't tell you 514 00:33:40.079 --> 00:33:43.640 what they really value, what they really like, like what would make them 515 00:33:43.759 --> 00:33:45.519 lean one way to kind of stay where it's low key or want the highest 516 00:33:45.559 --> 00:33:52.359 level. But Chris Mack was too much of a normal guy for this job. 517 00:33:53.000 --> 00:33:55.039 Not to say he would be like the best coach we ever had or 518 00:33:55.039 --> 00:33:58.799 anything like that, but like, you can't be normal at this job, 519 00:33:58.880 --> 00:34:00.960 like you gotta you gotta always be on you got all. I mean, 520 00:34:00.000 --> 00:34:04.119 it's there's so much more to it than just coaching basketball. Well, Pat 521 00:34:04.200 --> 00:34:07.079 Kelsey, we'll see if the guy if you know, if the if the 522 00:34:07.119 --> 00:34:10.039 gas light comes on, because he's gonna be I mean, this is just 523 00:34:10.039 --> 00:34:13.280 different than where he's ever been. But everybody who knows him said, like 524 00:34:13.639 --> 00:34:15.840 he's a nice guy, but like he's not normal like that. He's you 525 00:34:15.840 --> 00:34:21.079 know, he's he's he's somebody that would probably be energized by everything that comes 526 00:34:21.119 --> 00:34:24.239 with Louisville more than overwhelmed by it, whereas others can be overwhelmed. I 527 00:34:24.280 --> 00:34:28.320 think Scott Drew's the guy that would be overwhelmed with everything that comes with Kentucky. 528 00:34:29.079 --> 00:34:31.360 I mean, he they just built him a brand new stadium at Baylor 529 00:34:31.440 --> 00:34:37.119 and it seats seven thousand people. The crowds that we made fun of for 530 00:34:37.199 --> 00:34:39.880 Louisville having the last few years at the Young Center, Baylor gets that on 531 00:34:39.960 --> 00:34:46.639 average. So like he'd be in a totally different planet, and I don't 532 00:34:46.679 --> 00:34:51.039 know if he would want that. But again, as I've said, anybody 533 00:34:51.159 --> 00:34:55.519 taking the job can't be considered this huge shock because it's it's I think it's 534 00:34:55.559 --> 00:35:00.880 the best job in college basketball when it comes to just the ability to utilize 535 00:35:00.039 --> 00:35:06.239 tools to succeed at the highest level. But if you're somebody that would hate 536 00:35:06.440 --> 00:35:09.159 all the other stuff that comes with it, you could say I'd never want 537 00:35:09.159 --> 00:35:13.400 to coach there. It just depends on the person. All right, quick 538 00:35:13.400 --> 00:35:15.039 break, we'll come back on the other side, wrap this thing up at 539 00:35:15.079 --> 00:35:16.760 his Coffee and Company, and we are fiel about Thornton's right here on Sports 540 00:35:16.760 --> 00:35:22.639 Talk seven ninety. Give me that we've got a national championship game tonight. 541 00:35:22.719 --> 00:35:25.679 I guess we'll use the very little time we have left to discuss said matchup. 542 00:35:27.039 --> 00:35:30.119 You asked me about wagering. Do you have any action tonight? Not 543 00:35:30.239 --> 00:35:34.559 yet, but I'm definitely thinking about putting some money on Yukon to cover I 544 00:35:34.559 --> 00:35:36.880 think there's a good chance they'll win this by double digits, as they have 545 00:35:37.039 --> 00:35:38.719 with plenty of their other games, or I guess all their games in the 546 00:35:38.760 --> 00:35:43.840 tournament, and then I may parlay that with the over on points for Zach 547 00:35:43.960 --> 00:35:45.920 Edy and Donovan Klingon. But we'll have to see. I love it hearing 548 00:35:46.000 --> 00:35:51.519 you talk about betting on these games is just makes me so happy. So 549 00:35:51.960 --> 00:35:53.559 let me ask you a question as an Indiana fan, how do you feel 550 00:35:53.559 --> 00:35:58.599 about Zach Edy as a player, or just as I guess you're asking, 551 00:35:58.639 --> 00:36:00.760 as a player. So I've always to him. There's a lot of Indiana 552 00:36:00.800 --> 00:36:05.840 fans that think he's only good because he's tall, and there's times where I've 553 00:36:05.840 --> 00:36:08.679 thought that obviously he has an advantage to being seven foot four, But you 554 00:36:08.719 --> 00:36:13.320 don't get this far and win National Player of the Year twice in a row, 555 00:36:13.440 --> 00:36:15.280 or has he won that yet? This year? He will? He 556 00:36:15.320 --> 00:36:17.840 will? Yeah, you don't get this far without being good and being efficient, 557 00:36:17.840 --> 00:36:21.880 and that's exactly what he is. Yeah. I've found myself in the 558 00:36:21.960 --> 00:36:25.880 last couple of weeks really noticing how rare. He is in a different way. 559 00:36:27.440 --> 00:36:31.480 He is someone that in that frame, a lot of guys are awkward 560 00:36:31.800 --> 00:36:35.760 as players, that are awkward as people because honestly, it's probably at times 561 00:36:35.800 --> 00:36:38.559 really challenging to be the giant among other people. And you know, times 562 00:36:38.559 --> 00:36:42.199 he can look like an advantage, and it is an advantage as a basketball 563 00:36:42.199 --> 00:36:45.880 player. But to me, he's very comfortable in his skin, and he's 564 00:36:45.920 --> 00:36:50.920 a competitor, Like he is an absolute competitor, and you know that's that's 565 00:36:50.960 --> 00:36:52.199 the bare minimum and you would want from a player. But like, he's 566 00:36:52.239 --> 00:36:55.159 different. Man, He's not just a guy that is, you know, 567 00:36:55.920 --> 00:37:00.519 successful, because he's a giant. He works his ass off, he's a 568 00:37:00.559 --> 00:37:05.079 smart player, and you know, I get a sense that he really did 569 00:37:05.320 --> 00:37:07.440 you know, I'm sure everybody involved took it, you know, took the 570 00:37:07.480 --> 00:37:09.679 loss last year hard, but he, obviously, I think has had just 571 00:37:09.800 --> 00:37:14.199 you know, I'm a sucker for that kind of stuff. As a guy 572 00:37:14.239 --> 00:37:16.840 who used to play the game and the camaraderie that comes with it, had 573 00:37:16.880 --> 00:37:21.039 such a special relationship with my coach, Like to see him in pain or 574 00:37:21.079 --> 00:37:22.199 break through and get to the final four, like it was cool to see 575 00:37:22.280 --> 00:37:25.079 and like I don't think they're going to accomplish it tonight because I think Yukon's 576 00:37:25.119 --> 00:37:30.480 that good. But Yukon's like stupid good, Like there's not one guy that 577 00:37:30.519 --> 00:37:31.360 you're like, what are you going to do? They got like eight of 578 00:37:31.400 --> 00:37:36.280 them. So hopefully we get a good game tonight and we'll certainly react to 579 00:37:36.320 --> 00:37:45.679 it tomorrow right here on Sports Talk seven ninety