I'm in Madison Square Park the other day. Okay, And Madison Square Park,
for anyone who doesn't know, it has a bunch of like looping pathways
in it. Like it's a small park but has a shack as a shake
shock as the original shake shack. That's why we love it. Yeah.
So I'm like walking through because I had a little time for my appointments.
I'm like walking to Madison Square Park and I go around this one loop and
I see this woman, grown ass woman my age, you're older, sitting
there with her boyfriend. Her boyfriend or husband or whoever, has his arm
around her shoulders. They're leaning back and they have a baby on their lap.
Very cute. The picture of domestic lists exactly exactly. She's a little
glammier than you might expect for a mother of a young child, but hey,
it's New York. Takes all kinds right. Walk around and I come
back around again and they're still there, and she still has the baby.
I'm like, well, it's a really quiet baby. And I'm walking past
and I get past, and I'm like, was that a doll? And
I immediately turn around and realize I can't turn around and look because it's and
I can't stare at these people, so I do like a little whoop pirouette
in the middle of Badie's a square park and I do the loop again and
I come back around, and yes it is. The woman has a doll,
like a lifelike doll on her lap. She has her fingers and you
know how like babies grab your finger. Yes, so she has her finger
in the baby's hands, moving up and down. The doll's ears are pierced,
big blue eyes. Oh you know, they're perto Rican and America.
And this is that aged well yesterday's pop culture today, And it is the
final week of May. It is the final week of Mother's Day May.
We're celebrating women, were celebrating women and watching them get murdered. Spoilers.
But before we get to the final movie, which we both have lots of
thoughts about, so many thoughts, so many thoughts we do have, we
do have an Apple Podcasts review Erica. Do you want to read this one?
Sure? This is my perfect review. Today's review comes from Brisbee.
Truly enjoyable, extended universe, few notes, happy face emoji, love it.
It's so short and I have so many questions what does extended universe mean?
I think it's one of our episodes where we like create an extended universe
for something. But I can't possible unless I saw the timestamp, I wouldn't
have any idea which episode they're referring to. Few notes, a few oh
well yeah, more nudity, fewer notes, fewish notes. I mean,
Paul, we're pretty shrill. I mean that's the main note. I'm getting
the pitch that our voice is hit is. As the editor, I can
say, irritated, uncomfortable. Yeah, it's not the best, Brisbee,
thank you so much for this review. We loved it. If you would
like aid that age weel tok bag, please go ahead. Let us know
this is you and I will send it off for you. Erica, what
is the final movie that we are doing in May twenty twenty four? Today's
film is the two thousand psychological horror film. I'm gonna question that genre stamp,
but we'll move on American Psycho. I actually I will agree with you.
I don't think that. I don't think that's stamps is satire. It's
satire, is sious thing, satire with a little horror sprinkled in for fun.
Yeah, yeah, this is a fucking satire. This movie is funny,
you know what. I had a journey with that, but we'll get
into that later. Okay. So American Psycho was requested by Nina, by
Emily, by Sydney, by Sunny, by Jen, by Desiree and Erica.
This is our Patreon pick of the month. We polled movies Paul does
not want to watch. Yep. We pulled American Psycho up against Billy Madison,
and let me tell you, it was real Sophie's choice situation. It
really like the day before the polls closed, they were at fifty to fifty.
It was fifty to fifty, and I didn't we were gonna have to
flip a coin. And I was so pulling hard for American Psycho that I
was like, can I just pick the movie? And Paul's like, no,
you can't. Just so thank you, thank you, Thank you to
the whoever it was that got us over the fifty to fifty home for American
Psycho. I love you. Yep, it won fifty two percent to forty
eight percent. In the final moments, I will be honest, I was
rooting for whichever movie was losing because I just didn't want to watch the one
that was winning at any given moment. It was a real it was a
real shit sandwich for me. It's a real turd panini. Yeah, but
we are here. I have watched the movie. I think I knew you
were gonna like this more than you would have liked Billy Madison. That's true.
You did say that, and I did question you. Yeah, I
did. I'll admit it because I will get into later. I was actually
like scared to watch this movie because I knew the reputation. Yeah, you
were tense watching it. You know. That's on me. I should have
warned you ahead of time. I should have been like, this is a
social satire with horror elements like mixed in. The reputation this movie has is
like a fucking like Gorfest. Gorfest is undeserved, undeserved and yes, completely,
we'll get into it. We'll get into it. So. American Psycho
was written by Mary Harron and Guenevere Turner, based on the nineteen ninety one
novel by Brett Easton Ellis. It was directed by Haron and stars Christian Bale,
Willem Dafoe, Jared Leto, Josh Lucas Samantha Mathis, Matt Ross,
Bill Sage, Chloe seven Ye, Kara Seymour, Justin Thureau, and Reese
Witherspoon. There are two Academy Awards, three Academy Award winners. I forget
Jared Letto has an Oscar. Fucking Willem Dafoe has been nominated like one hundred
times, so give him an Oscar already. Do you think that Reese Witherspoon
broke up with Ryan Philippy because she walked in once and she was holding a
spoon and he was like Reese with her spoon. I don't know that Ryan
Philippe has that in his arsenal. If I'm being honest, you think it's
too funny for Ryan. I think it's a little too punny for right.
I feel like that he doesn't his brain doesn't go there. It's all my
brain does. American Psycho was Christian Bale's breakout role, and director Mary Harron
had to fight to get him cast. She was briefly fired from the project
as the studio attempted to replace him with Leonardo DiCaprio. I have thoughts.
Then they brought in Oliver Stone to direct, which, honestly I would have
liked that movie version, I think less, but I would have liked to
have seen it. He also kind of made this movie already and he called
it on Wall Street, Wall Street. Yeah, he did. He already
made this movie. After DiCaprio's attempt with Oliver Stone fell through, the studio
still fought for a bigger star, but ultimately Haron was able to keep bail
although he was only paid fifty thousand dollars for this role. That's nuts,
that's fucking crazy. Yeah, because this is the forest gum situation where I
don't think we'd still be talking about this movie if Christian Bale hadn't started it,
if he hadn't given this performance, this like crazy balls to the wall,
gonzo, fucking gonzo performance, I don't think. I think this movie
would have sort of faded into the two thousands of femera. It's one of
the greatest performances of the two thousands, and I think maybe one of his
best performances. And that's a high bar to clear, because actually I think
Christian Bale is crazy good, Like he's a very good actor, crazy good.
American Psycho has a sixty five percent critical rating on Rotten Tomatoes and an
eighty five percent audience score. It has a seventy four percent critical rating on
cherry Picks. That is super interesting. I was expecting cherry Picks to take
a little bit of a dive. See again. I went into this movie
cold and I read that. I was like, that tracks with what I
know of the movie. Okay, because the movie wears its misogyny on its
leave. That's on perp It is the point of the movie. It's the
point of the movie. I could see that rubbing certain women the wrong way,
which which totally get why you'd be like, I don't really want to
admire myself in this right now. I find it very amusing, fair enough,
but sixty five seems low for me. I thought that this movie was
like, pretty critically lauded. It turns out the reviews were decidedly mixed.
I think, removing my personal enjoyment from it, I think I sixty five
seventy percent is about where I would put it. Really. I think it's
had so much to say and it's so interesting. I don't think it's perfect
by any means. I have notes, but like I would give it at
least no less than like seventy five eighty percent. Also just for the audacity
of making it true. That yeah, fair enough crazy that this ever got
made. Yeah, all right, Erica, When did you first see American
Psycho? Saw it in the theater, Paul, Of course you did.
I was super curious to hear your thoughts on this movie because I saw it
in the theater. Like I said, I thought I was gonna get something
just like you, and I turned into something else. It was something different
from what I was expecting. And I remember really enjoying it, but not
loving the ending. And now this time that I know how it ends,
I enjoyed it. I think a lot more and the comedy lands a lot
more when you know that, like it's essentially all in his head at the
end of the movie, right, None of none of the violence is actually
real, no matter how much were subjected to it. It's not actually real,
which does take some of the teeth out of it. I think,
when did you first see this film? And I know the answer, but
I'm gonna ask you anyway. Shockingly, I hadn't seen this. I remember
it coming out, I remember it being a thing, and I when I
watched it when it won, I was like, all right, gurd your
lines. You have to watch this. It's fine. Like and I didn't
do the thing I usually do of reading of reading the plot synopsis on a
horror movie. Yeah, because I was like, well, this is not
a horror movie. And you had kind of told me it has things to
say. It's not that horror movies don't, but like it's not just a
slash flick. Like, so I was like, okay, let me try
to like, let me try to put on my big boy pants and be
a brave little toaster and watch American Psycho. And I watched like on my
iPad, so like it wasn't too big in the room or whatever. And
I'm watching it and my first response was about halfway through the movie, I
was like, this just actually isn't that violent. No, Like there's very
very little gore in the movie, which is one of the big things for
me. Like the thing I remember about Screams is that first when Steve gets
disemboweled, Like that's the thing that like, no, absolutely not, I
don't want to see that. There's really none of that. It's no more
graphic than Goodfellas. Really, oh, I think Goodfellas is way more yeah.
Yeah, like when they're beating someone in Goodfellas, kicking that guy's hidden
in the bar billy batts. Yeah yeah, yeah. So like about halfway
through the movie, I got to that point, and then I was like,
Okay, if it's not going to be that violent, why A would
be even being subjected to the amount of violence and being subjected to because it's
coming off weird and I couldn't figure out why I was watching it kind of
like, I got that it was a satire of eighties capitalism. I got
that, but I was like waiting for the violence to signify something else.
Yeah, ultimately, I don't think it does. And I think maybe because
I was so tense and waiting for like someone's face to explode unexpectedly on the
screen. I think I told you this before, Like there were moments that
I know are funny that I wrote down, like that's a funny line that
I did not laugh at because I didn't feel like I had the permission to
laugh because I was so tense and I didn't know what was going to happen.
Yeah, there's one definite horror sequence in it. Yeah, that sequence
was was you know, scary as expected, But other than that, it's
very like it almost goes from like satire to action movie. Well, it's
the only time you see a murder from the perspective of the victim. I
mean not to say there aren't not to say there aren't victims and the other
murders, but like the camera pulls back before they can happen. Almost.
It's it's a really interesting trick. I will say. Seeing it in the
theater, even not knowing what was gonna happen, I think made a difference.
Okay, because I remember seeing it in a packed house. Probably half
the audience had read the book, sure, and so they were laughing.
So even if I wasn't in on it, like I was like, well,
if everyone else is laughing at the Huey lewis nonsense, it's funny.
It's it's objectively funny. Yeah, So I think this reward's viewing with other
people also, sure, because the movie does keep you at a distance.
The character Patrick Bateman is such a he's an alien, such an odd character,
and so you don't really feel anything when you're watching him except wow,
what a good performance. Yeah. At the end of the movie, I
unfortunately left the movie confused, So like you said, like full spoilers,
it's all in his head. It doesn't actually happen, but they reveal that
in the last thirty seconds of the movie. Last minute of the movie is
when that happens. It's just not a movie for me. So I think
the first time I saw it, I was really like disappointed because I thought
the idea was is that this guy can't be punished no matter what he does,
because of who he is. And so I thought it was like extra
level satire of like talk about failing up, Like this is someone who murders
forty people and everyone's like, oh you and literally no one believes him and
no one will investigate further and because he's you know, a pillar of the
community or whatever. And so I thought the movie was going in a very
different way, darker, more satirical level than it actually does. Yeah,
and it like kind of veers off on another ramp, and I was like,
Okay, that's interesting too, but I think My Thing was better.
Yeah. And again it's based on a novel, so there's very little the
film could do right, but yeah, I think My Thing is better.
Yeah. I was left kind of being like, huh. At the end
of the movie, as opposed to being like oh why God right, Like,
so I I because of me watching this movie, I'm doing my best
to separate, like objectively, to be like, what is actually the movie's
fault? So like if you got it immediately the first time you watched it,
I suspect it's not the movie's fault that I didn't get it. I
suspect it's me like being a buzz about it. No, I think I
didn't get it to the last thirty seconds either the first time it. But
I didn't really get it at the last thirty seconds. I got what wait?
What huh? Why did I sit through this? All? Right?
Erica? The tagline for American Psycho was killer looks. No, No,
I don't get that. It's hip to be square was right there right there.
Maybe Huey Lewis wouldn't allow it. Huey Lewis was like, no,
I've had enough. I'm beloved. Huey Lewis. Yeah, the soundtrack of
Americana this movie is terrible. You know. They went to Rick Astley first
and he was like, oh yo, hell no. Can't you just picture
Patrick Bateman being like, what if we got Rick rolled? Never going to
give you up. It's a song about perseverance. A lot of people think
this singer is African American, but in fact he's just white with a cool
voice. I think he's Scottish or something. Those are our best. Patrick
Bateman Christian Bale's American accents will always always make me giggle. He's good,
he's not bad at it, but it's always like an alien talking. It's
never a full human being talking. He's incapable of making a natural choice,
which is he's very interesting to watch. He's never boring. Oh my god,
No, I really like him in this. I think it's such a
great performance. I think he makes the movie work. I didn't love this
movie, but I did. I was concerned. I was just going to
be like, I can't believe you people maybe watch this, which is fuck
you, fuck you, fuck you, You're not cool, fuck you too
in individually emailing all of our patriots and being like how dare you? And
that is not where I am. I am in a space of like,
okay, this, I mean, I knew it had real artistic merit.
I didn't know that going in, but like I was like, oh,
this was not as traumatic as I expected it to be. It wasn't so
traumatic traumatic. Also, again, you know this because of the month we're
in. Directed by a woman, co written by like two women, one
of whom appears in the film. She's great and she's really fucking good.
Yeah. So based on a novel by Brett ellisi'son famous homosexual. Yeah so
there's a lot. There's a lot happening here. Yeahs at cooking in this
too? Absolutely? All right? Shall I read the iTunes synopsis? Sure?
Okay. Patrick Bateman is a handsome, well educated executive who works days
on Wall Street. His nights are spent in ways we cannot begin to fathom.
A twenty six year old living his own American dream as a serial rapist
and killer preying upon the young and trendy in nineteen eighties Manhattan. Okay,
first of all, he's twenty seven. He says it like three times in
the movie. He's not twenty six. Yeah. Also, look, I'm
not out here trying to make excuses for Patrick Bateman, but I don't think
he rapes anyone. I think there's one kind of implied which one like after
the first three semi's like we're not done yet, and then they just cut
to afterwards and the women are very up. Oh I mean, look,
none of that's good. Yeah, I'm with you on that. But okay,
really, why am I out here? Why am I like you?
Guys? He is misunderstood Erica Patrick Bateman's number one defender. You wrote a
letter to the judge, like all those people that wrote the letters to the
judge for like a light sentencing on Patrick Bateman. Did you Yeah, you're
a character witness. I can't believe. I was like, I picked up
on that. I was like, excuse me, I don't think he serially
raped anyone tortured? Then? Oh? Absolutely yes, but let's just be
careful with our words. Yeah, words matter everyone. Also, he's twenty
seven actual synopsis for American Psycho. Oh sure, it's all fun and games
until Baron Trump decides to make this his life story. That's coming. Y'all
think about who that person is and the environment he is growing up in.
Uh huh. We need a wellness check on Baron. Do you keep it?
Do you keep one eye on him? I would say, Eric,
but he's too stupid to pull any of this off. It's it's it's barn
watch it. Watch out for Baron. Everyone be aware, be aware,
all right, So, uh, we are going to take short break.
We'll be right back to take you through American Psycho. After a few messages,
including one from one of our old friends from our friends Kimberly and Katie
at date with Dateline that's right now, so we talked about doing a little
ad swap with with Kimberly and Katy, and I said, hey, we're
having an American Psycho episode coming up, and you two seemed like you would
be experts. Uh huh they recapt Dateline for a living Okay, Yeah,
so they wrote back and they gave some thoughts on American Psycho. Oh I
love this first one because I because I'm with you, Katie is Patrick Bateman
hut no come, no comment, Look he is. It's fucking hot,
and the movie invites you to stare. Yeah, I will say. What
is one of the very interesting things about this movie, and that I have
to credit Christian Belle with is he is. The form is incredible. The
personality is so off putting. I know that you literally could not find this
person attractive for longer than four seconds after he opens his mouth. Pretty much
only the scenes when he's in the shower yeah, and you're like, sh
don't talk, baby, just let me watch the water run over your back.
Katie also said that this is how she learned what a corporate asshole shirt
was. I see that comment. Yes, I feel I feel like they
use these shirts in Office Space. Oh my god. Yeah, the boss
in Office Space is basically an extra in this movie. Yeah, he's the
TJ. Max version of Justin the Rowe's character in this movie. She also
says card stock was never the same again, isn't that true? Oh my
god, this movie. All the scenes where they look at each other,
those business cards are perfection, no notes, Yes, absolutely so. We
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a very bougie restaurant in nineteen eighty seven. The food on people's plates are
artfully arranged and shot in a way that conjures images of blood and gore alongside
the beauty of the food. So there's like dripping raspberry sauce on the plate
before they put like a rare piece of meat on top of it. This
was my first clue that I was like, what's going on? Because it
starts and you think it's blood, right, you know what the movie is
like the red drop drops of red liquid, right, and then they starts
to become a stream, and I was like, that's not blood. No,
And it's like you can tell top Bloo doesn't have the viscosity of blood
exactly, and it's too bright red. It doesn't look like blood. And
I'm like, was this just what movie blood looked like in two thousand?
No? No, No, it's it's what raspberry pure looks like. Raspberry
coolie. Hmmm, real quick, I just want to start, like the
movie has a runner in it where all the food they eat and these super
high end restaurants are insane, and so in this restaurant, the waiter is
telling, like some of the patrons the specials for that night, and the
specials are squid ravioli in a lemon grass broth with goat cheese profederals. I'm
not gonna lie, Paul. I would eat that. That's the one.
I was all of that sounds fine. Goat cheese, hell yeah, lemon
grass broth like kalamari ravioli, okay, is a little left of center,
but I eat that right, I'll try it. Then we get to swordfish
meat loaf with an onion marmalade. I'm not so sure about that one.
That one, that one, I have questions, And then this one,
which is so disgusting, and a rare roasted partridge breast in a raspberry koolie
with a sorel timble. I don't know what that is. All I know
is you're feeding you rawbird. Yeah, And I don't think you're supposed to
eat rawbird. That's like the one thing we're not supposed to eat raw dog.
It's fucking poultry. You can raw dog anything else you want, but
cook your poultry. Yeah, you can raw dog meat. You can raw
dog fish, you cannot raw dog poultry. So we see our quote unquote
protagonist Patrick Bateman played by Christian Bale, He is having a five hundred and
seventy dollars dinner with three of his douchiest finance bro colleagues. Did you do
the math? I did not. Five hundred and seventy dollars in nineteen eighty
seven is roughly fifteen hundred dollars today, So they are each spending fifth or
maybe all together it was fifteen hundred. I don't know either way. Crazy,
too much money, too much money to eat raw fish, raw bird,
rather raw pigeon, for Christ's sake, raw squab. So the three
douchebros are Timothy Brice, played by Justin Thireau, in a performance that is
so goddamn good. I don't know how this didn't catapult him to fame.
I did miss about five minutes of the film wondering why Justin Throw is wearing
ice blue contacts because he can, because it's perfect it looks so maybe it's
only because he's just In Throw and I know what he looks like now.
But also his hair, his hair is dyed darker. Yeah, it really
is. I think he's supposed to look like a vampire. He looks like
he looks like it, like a black Irish person gone through like some kind
of photo filter. We have David van Patten played by Bill Sage and Craig
McDermott played by Josh Lucas. So the men are unimpressed with this quote unquote
chicks restaurant they're at, with all this fancy food. They're like, they're
so bored. Right, They see a more successful colleague of theirs named Paul
Allen across the restaurant, and Craig the Josh Lucas character derisively says that he
only gets all the good accounts because he's a Jew. And then Patrick calmly
asks him to cool it with the anti semitic remarks. It's virtue signaling,
right, Like he knows exactly what he's supposed to say to seem like a
normal person and like a quote unquote good person. So he's like, cool
it with the anti semitic remarks, and the other guys are like, and
Timothy the Justin Threaux character, remarks that Patrick is the voice of reason at
their table. Good to know, Oh, dear Yeah, oh no,
oh no, no, no, we're in trouble. So we cut later
to that same group. They're in a nightclub. So did you notice the
person manning the door of this nightclub. It's a drag queen dressed in like
seventeenth century pirate garb. Yeah. I was trying to figure out if the
people performing in the club were also drag queens. You don't get a good
look at them, so I couldn't tell. Yeah, there were three women
on stage dressed as like the Charlie's Angel, yeah, and doing Charlie's Angel
poses. You know, it didn't even occur to me they might be,
so I didn't. I just assumed sister women. But like, maybe this
is nineteen eighty seven. How evolved was the club scene in the eighties at
these fucking finance douche bros. Yeah, going to a night club where the
door is manned by a drag queen and there's like a lot of queer codd
shit happening inside, Yeah, that's super fascinating. It felt it was funny
because it felt at odds, and I spent some time thinking about it because
I was like, why are they in this club? Why? Why this
club, but also like they go to other clubs later in the movie and
they're all kinds of they're all like that, Like that whole androgynist thing is
happening in culture right, and it's picked up in its mainstream and it's super
super interesting because I feel like now finance douchebros Are not at the same Yeah,
maybe I'm wrong, maybe it's a huge general but I feel like they
wouldn't be comfortable in that space, whereas these guys are just like, well,
this is this is the cool thing to do, so we're gonna do
it. Also, that nightclub looked cool as hell. It did like really
fun, that New Water playing. I used to think that the day would
never Yeah, I'm not mad at the music, I'm not mad at the
scenery. I'm not mad at the bouncers. I'm in for all of this.
I did have an idea, like when I was first starting the movie
and I was like, I'm afraid I'm gonna hate this. I know Eric
is gonna like it. What are they going to say? When she asked
me what I think, and my plan was just be like, I love
the soundtrack. You're not wrong. The soundtrack is amazing. It's so good.
It's so good. So Patrick goes up to the bar and he tries
to pay for two stolies on the rocks with drink tickets, and this like
very harried, overworked bartender currently tells him it's a cash bar. She's a
little rude to him, right, disagree. You cannot possibly be two terse
with someone in a situation like that, if you are the bartender. That's
true, that's true, because she's they should be allowed to punch every single
person as for the drink in the face and if you, if you and
if you can hear them, they get to punch you with the hand with
rings on, like you have your order ready, shut up and move along.
She's like, no, it's a cash bar. And so she turns
around to make the drinks. And as she turns around, he looks at
his reflection in the mirror over the bar and he says, this is a
direct quote from the movie You're a fucking ugly bitch. I want to stab
you to death and play around with your blood. And then she turns around
and hands him his drinks without comments, so clearly she didn't hear what he
said. I think there's all these moments in the movie where like, if
you don't know what's happening, you're like, well, the club is loud,
that's why she didn't hear him. But in fact it's because he's he's
looking at it at his own reflection. Yeah, and it's what he wants
to be saying, but he doesn't actually say anything. We cut to Patrick's
pristine, icy black and white apartment in a well appointed building on the Upper
West Side. Over a spare piano score. We see him get out of
bed wearing only his underwear. Look, the Marvel movies have given us a
picture of what a man's body, perfect body looked like, right HGH on
the Marvel movies, I don't leave a single ounce of HGH was used on
Christian Bale here. I think he did this to his body. I think
he did a thousand crunches a day, just like Patrick Pateman. Yeah.
I think like because he's so lean, he looks like like an Olympic athlete,
Like like he there just is no fat on him whatsoever. Maybe it's
a lot of coke, but that's the only thing that I could say that
would like cut him like that. The camera as Erica writes here invites us
to gaze at his body. Very female, gayzy, right, super that's
the beginning of like, oh, this is definitely a female director, right,
because it's almost like it's almost lustful in the way because it's not just
him like walking around his apartment in his underwear. It's him like doing calisthetics,
yeah, in these very posing ways, which makes sense for the character
too, because it's like he's always performing. But then it's like him in
this shower and it's like literally like water rippling down his body, and I'm
like, and so there there is a little bit of like the audience is
like brought in a little bit, yeah, Like, but isn't it pretty?
Yeah? So pretty. We watch which is very complicated morning exercise and
skincare routine, and he tells us in voiceover that he's twenty seven, not
twenty six. iTunes person, come on, get your shit together, twenty
seven, goddamn it, and he believes in taking care of himself. He
can do up to one thousand crunches every morning, and we watch him carefully
put on an herb mint facial mask and slowly peel it off, almost as
if he's shedding his skin while he tells us there is an idea of Patrick
Bateman, some kind of abstraction, but there is no real me, only
an entity, something illusory. And though I can hide my cold gaze and
you can shake my hand and feel flesh gripping yours, and maybe you can
even sense our lifestyles are probably comparable, I am simply not there. Okay,
okay, So the movie takes a lot of like literary like my guess
again, I didn't read this book, but I'm guessing that was lifted directly
out of it. Have you ever read any bread? Ellisson? He just
seems like such an asshole. I've never been interested. Oh I read less
than zero. And what's funny is that book is so much darker than the
movie. So I can only imagine if this movie is where it is,
and the fucking book must be. Yeah, so dark, because it's like
Hollywood's like, all right, but let's sand some of these areas. Yeah,
this is a lot. Yeah. So after Patrick finishes peeling off his
skin and telling us that he's simply not there, can I tell you the
night I watched this movie this week, I was like, when was the
last time ID I literally did like two facial masks because I was like,
this guy is not going to be better at skincare than me. No,
no, I refuse, I refuse. I'm putting the squalene on, I'm
moisturizing, I'm exfoliating, I'm doing one of those frozen masks to keep the
puffiness down. His morning routine is so much more intense than anything I've ever
done in my own life. Every like two years or so, I'll be
like, I'm going to invest in my skincare routine and it lasts for at
the most five days. He puts all like four different types of cleansers in
his shower, and I'm like, okay, it's a bar of soap for
me. That's the best we're gonna get. I'm also I'm a sweaty bastard,
so all of like all of the lotions and stuff. I'm like,
I know, but so as Patrick, as we're gonna find out as we're
watching the movie, Oh boy, Patrick Bateman Sweaty Bastard smash cut to a
shot of a New York City skyscraper underscored to walking on Sunshine by Katrina and
the Waves. So it goes from like I am simply not there too,
like the happiest song ever recorded in pop music. We see Patrick walking into
his office. He's wearing a walkman. It's so funny to see someone spending
that amount of money and then very coolly and seriously having a walkman. Yeah.
He banters a little with his assistant, Jean, played by Chloe seven
yee. Jeane clearly has a crush on him. It's hilarious that they're making
Chloe seven ye play like a mousey girl, like like famed New York girl
fashion stick Chloe seven years. But she does it. She's she's good.
Yeah, yeah, she's good. As Jean is about to leave his office,
she tells him he looks nice, and he tells her to stop wearing
pantsuits because you're prettier than that, and to start wearing skirts and high heels
in the office. Whoof damn, the movie pulls not a single punch like
something I'm just gonna read a note for you that I have on this movie.
Jesus, this is like sitting in a car with twenty seven people that
you hate for an hour and forty minutes, and it truly is the point.
Like I'm not blaming the movie for that that is the sound. So
it's like bringing the massogy up over and over and over, and to the
movie's credit, unlike the Birdcage, I do think they managed to go so
hard as to make it a little bit funny, Like they they're like,
no, we're going to go far enough that you have to laugh at this.
So after Jean leaves the office, he just puts his feet up,
turns on the TV in his office and watches a game show. No,
twenty seven year old or twenty six year old frankly should have an office.
Oh, absolutely hard roll absolutely not the first. The thing I didn't notice
the first time I saw the movie that I noticed this time is how he
literally does not work. I don't think he he ever in his whole life,
has done a moment of work. And so later in the movie when
like when he has to like pretend to be working, like someone comes into
his office and he's on the phone pretending it's a work call. All he's
doing is giving fashion advice to like the fake person on the phone. I'm
like, oh my god, you don't even know how to fake it.
It can't even be like bye bye Byelo. So high like he can't even
do that. So we cut to Patrick and his girlfriend slash sort of almost
fiance, Evelyn Williams played by Reese Witherspoon. Does she have her spoon?
Oh no, I find this so funny. It's Reese with her spoon Gardy.
By the way, that joke is for our friend Aaron, who listens
she's dying. But whither shall my spoon go? It has reesed away.
Yes, So they're on their way to dinner and she's basically crunching the numbers
on what a wedding would cost and like how great their wedding, their future
wedding would be. She doesn't even look at him. He doesn't even look
at her. It's actually pretty clear he hates her. Yeah, but she's
like, but we're perfect. I'm rich and pretty and you're rich and pretty,
and rich and pretty people need to get married. It's Elwood's in Warner.
Yeah, this is how this works, the dark timeline of Hell,
the dark timelin of Ellwoods and Warner. So Patrick can barely contain his disdain
for her. He's like, I can't take time off of work to get
married, which, now that we know he doesn't literally doesn't know how to
work is very funny, and she's like, but why don't you just quit
your job? You hate it anyway, and you don't even need to work,
so why are you working? And he says the quiet part out loud,
which is crazy to me. He goes, because I want to fit
in. Who's just says shit like that? Patrick Bateman, Who's like,
I'm dying without love? What why would you say that out loud? My
soul is shriveling. Oh no, I've gone too far. They arrive at
the super Chic restaurant and are seated at the table with Evelyn's quote unquote artist
cousin and her boyfriend, and they are Erica here she is correct. They
are styled like Robert Smith from The Cure. Yes, he looks exactly like
Robert Smith. It's hilarious. He looks like Bizarro, Edward Scissorhands and also
Timothy who that's that's justin throw and Patrick tells us he is clearly having an
affair with Evelyn, but Patrick doesn't mind that Evelyn is cheating on him,
since he's cheating on her with her best friend, Courtney played by Samantha Mathis,
who's engaged to Lewis Carruthers played by Matt Ross, who Patrick calls the
biggest dufist in the business. Okay, Matt Ross has entrade the scene.
This character is fantastic, This character is I want to I want to say
something right up front. I am offended by nothing. What is happening?
Did you pick up on? Yeah? You know what. It took me
a minute. Oh the first time I saw the movie. So Lewis Caruthers
is coded as gay. He is quoted as gay nerd crossed with mister Beams.
He wears a bow tie. No one else in the movie wears a
bow tie at him like a pinstriped suit. And then this like or a
peewee Herman type, like this insane bowl haircut that's dyed this unnatural orange and
then curled down over like like no gay man in the history of time has
ever voluntarily gotten this haircut. Ever, maybe that's how he's hiding it.
But he's like, he's like, no one will believe me, no one
for it's not it's not enough that I'm engaged to a gorgeous woman. I
have to also look like this. No gay man will want to look at
the top of this head as they as I blow them, so that'll make
sure that what they okay. And so he's he's doing a lot, which
is which is fine truly again, because everyone is everyone is if no one
is playing it like cool and no one is playing it like a normal human
being. Like all of Patrick's friends are at an eleven the entire ty,
so is Reese, Like everyone's at eleven hundred percent. So like I again,
not offended. I'm just trying to figure out what they thought they were
doing because it's so much Oh my god. All right, So Courtney,
that is Lewis's girlfriend and the woman that Patrick is sleeping with behind Evelyn's back.
Courtney starts a conversation about the commercialization of soho and then Timothy immediately dives
in with who cares, and then starts to espouse super wrong information about the
Sri Lankan Civil War. Super wrong. And by the way, I didn't
know that off the top of my head. I had to google it to
make sure. But I'm like, this seems wrong, you know what.
I'm impressed because I didn't even it didn't even occur to me that it was
wrong. I was too busy thinking about that timing collateral when Tom Cruise was
like, well, what about Rwanda. I'm find being a murderer because Rwanda
is happening, Monda is happening. That's exactly what this guy just did.
Yeah, He's like, who cares. There's like Sri Lanka and I'm like,
who I hate when people do that. Not to be out virtue signaled
because he wants to fit in ha ha. Patrick calmly and with great control,
goes through all the social ills of the day that they should all be
paying attention to, and he lists everything aparthid to nuclear warfare, women's rights
and promoting general social concern and less materialism in young people. He says a
lot without saying anything at all excellently. He really should have been a politician.
Yeah, and Lewis looks at him with admiration and says, how thought
provoking Matt Ross is, Almost like how thought provoking girl like Matt Ross is
only with Courtney because he already knows that that Patrick is fucking Courtney. And
he's like it's like, oh, this is how I this is I can
at least be Eskimo Brothers. Yeah. So after dinner we see Patrick walking
alone at night. He has this sight set on a random woman walking nearby,
so he's just like walking on the Upper east Side somewhere. He approaches
her at a crosswalk. He says hello. This is the first person we'll
see in the movie. It's acting like a normal person. She's immediately on
guard and she's like hi back to him, because women have been told we
have to be polite to everyone. But she's very clearly like no. They
continue to walk along the same street. That's all we see. Yep.
Cut to the next morning. Patrick is at his dry cleaners and he is
screaming at them that they have to remove the blood red stains from his sheets.
When an acquaintance walks in and says hello, Patrick tries to like brush
her off. He doesn't want to deal with her, and the acquaintance asks
what caused the stains on your sheets? Why are sheets red? And he
goes cranberry juice and walks out of the store. This is an interesting thing
that it took me a while to pick up. All the service not all,
but most of the service people in the film are people of color.
Are all the service people, And of course all our protagonists are white.
And then there's one major African American role in the movie which is coming up,
and I think it's extremely like pointed. I think they're doing that on
purpose. Yeah, I think we can give this movie that credit. Uh
huh. Yeah. A few days later, Patrick asks Courtney to go to
dinner with him. Courtney is like high on pills. She's very into like
various mind altering medications. Yeah, and the first scene she's on xanax and
we're going to find out later in the scene she's on lithium. He says,
let's go out to dinner. Lewis is out of town, and she
declined until Patrick tells her that he'll take her to Dorcia, the hottest restaurant
in town, and she's like, ooh, Dorsia, okay fine. Patrick
calls the restaurant try to get a table for that night, and he's quite
literally laughed at by the matre Day just laughed off the phone. I love
that by the time Patrick picks Courtney up for dinner, she's so out of
her mind on lithium that she's barely conscious. She doesn't even notice when he
takes her to a completely different restaurant and just tells her that it's Dorcia.
He could have taken her to Burger King, she would not have noticed.
He also orders food for her peanut butter soup. Oh, keep going,
Paul, with smoked duck and mashed squash. The movie just gets weirder and
weirder and weirder with the food orders. And I'm here for all of it.
He has a line here, He's like New York Matinee called it a
playful but mysterious little dish. Courtney basically just passes out at the table and
Patrick looks thrilled to not have to talk with anyone else while eating his dinner.
He doesn't realize it. Have a woman passed out at your table does
not help you fit in. Maybe it does. In nineteen eighty seven Wall
Street bro possibly the satire on fine dining. Truly, like the menu just
happened like a year ago, Like so I thought of the same thing.
It's literally it is almost the menu this movie, like you have to be
seen at certain restaurants, and it actually feels very true to life. Now.
I feel like for a while that kind of went away and now it
is like New York especially is just like everyone needs to go to these five
restaurants. These are the hot restaurants, and if you don't go to them,
you're basically nothing. And it's like, everyone calmed the fuck down.
Yeah, everyone needs to understand that I don't go to restaurant unless they're within
a ten block radis in my house. Yeah. If they don't deliver it
to me, I'm not going. I'm not going. It reminds me of
that line from when Harriet met Sally, where she goes, restaurants are to
people in the eighties what theater was to people in the sixties. Oh yeah,
yeah, that line. I'm like, yes, that's the whole thing
again. The next day, they're at the office, Lewis thanks Patrick for
taking care of Courtney him. He's also very impressed with Patrick's Valentino suit and
he tries to touch the fabric to feel how soft it is, and Patrick
swats his hand away and he goes the compliment was sufficient, Lewis, And
this is where dumb dumb Erica picked up on Lewis having a crush on It
took this long for me to be like got it, got it, because
the way the character looks and behaves, I thought at first that he was
just the awkward friend that they don't want to talk to because he's a nerd.
Yeah, right, and so it took me this long to be like,
oh, it's not nerd, it's gay. Yeah, And they kind
of all figured it out, except for Erica. You have a more open
mind. Erica. You don't dump to conclusions except about Mickey Bunce, except
on Mickey Bunce, in which I was right, yeah and dropped dead Fred.
Yeah. So Paul Allen, the top dog at the company played by
Jared Leto, who looks seventeen if he is a minute when he made this
movie, and I'm like, how what? Never mind, moving on,
moving on. He swaggers into the room. He immediately calls Patrick by someone
else's name, Marcus Halberstrom. That's important, just keep that in mind.
He thinks he doesn't know Patrick as Patrick. He calls him Marcus the entire
movie, and then he loudly tells the room that he has the coveted Friday
night reservation at Dorsea And he swaggers out, and everyone's like, how the
fuck did he get a reservation on a Friday night? And they're so jealous
of him. Patrick tries to shake off these feelings of impotence that he suddenly
has by showing off his new business card to his colleagues. This is my
favorite scene in the movie. It's really funny. It's perfect. This is
what Katie was referencing about the card stock. So this is now. It's
a pissing match between the four guys and their business cards. It is so
fucking funny. They literally all put their their cards out on the table,
right, and Patrick is horrified we hear it in voiceover, to find that
his is not even the most tasteful card amongst his garbage friends. Oh my
god. Right, he is sweating, He is on the verge of tears.
We see him like physically get emotional, right, and he like very
quietly goes, hmmm, let's see Paul Allen's card. And everyone looks like
hesitates, and then one of them pulls out Paul Allen's card. He puts
it on the table and there's a collective odd silence in the room as they
gaze upon its magnificence. My god, there's even a water moon. If
you have not seen this scene. And I get to stand if someone might
not want to watch this movie, it's not their cup of tea just Google
business card scene American psycho. I promise you you will not be disappointed.
There's no violence in it whatsoever except you are. You are free and clear,
violence against card stock, violence against taste. So they're all vice presidents.
Yeah, they're all vice presidents. Later that night, Patrick walks along
a deserted alleyway near his office and encounters an unhoused black man with a dog.
This is the black person in the movie Yeah by Reggie Cathay. Yeah,
this is one of the more difficult scenes in the movie. When the
movie turns Yeah. He offers to give the man money, and when the
man gratefully accepts, he kneels down and says, why don't you have a
job, And then he tells the man to get a better attitude and stop
smelling like shit, and he calls them pathetic, and then he pulls out
a knife out of his briefcase and stabs the man before beating the dog to
death. WHOA, this was an escalation, Yes, the movie twist.
Okay, that was far more the way you described It was more violent than
you see in the movie. Like it's in silhouette him stabbing the man.
The camera pulls with the camera pulls way up and you hear him like stomp,
and you hear like a whimper, like there's no visual to a company.
You know what happened, but there's no visual to a company. Yeah.
Then Patrick stands up and calmly just walks away. Now this is also
the part of the movie where Paul is thinking there's going to be like a
for lack of a better term, normal progression of events. And I was
like, oh, that was a mistake, Like you didn't clean up that
crime scene at all. That's gonna be the one that gets you ultimately.
That is so not where this movie is head. And the funny thing is
you're watching it the whole there's every single one of these murders has a crazy
like well, obviously you're gonna get caught. Yeah, like you made so
many mistakes, never gets caught. Yeah. We see Patrick at a spa
because you know, after murdering a man and his dog, you really want
to decompress. Yeah, yeah, you want to get the outer layer of
skin off you as fast as you possibly can. He's getting a massage,
a manicure, he takes some time in a sun bed. We get another
gorgeous shot of Christian Bale's body. Thank you, Mary Heron. Yeah,
doing the Lord's work, Doing the Lord's work, Mary Heron, and voiceover,
he narrates, I have all the characteristics of a human being, flesh,
blood, skin, hair, but not a single clear, identifiable emotion
except for greed and disgust. Something horrible is happening inside of me, and
I don't know why. My nightly bloodlust has overflowed into my days. I
feel lethal, on the verge of frenzy, and I think my mask of
sanity is about to slip. If you want to make a vampire movie,
just make a vampire movie. He says all that while lying in a sun
bed, which is very funny. Yeah. Later we see Patrick at Evelyn's
Christmas party at her palatial apartment. Evelyn tries to engage with him. She's
showing off her new pot bellied pig she's carrying around like a little chihuahua,
but he just scowls at her and walks away. There's a line here where
she's like, what do you want for Christmas? And don't say breast implants
again? Damn? Why is she with him? Well? She sucks too,
She sucks. Patrick approaches Paul Allen, who's flirting with Courtney. Courtney
is the woman who he drugged, who's Lewis's girlfriend, but he's having an
affair with her, and he suggests that they have dinner sometime, and Paul,
who still thinks Patrick's name is Marcus Halberstrom, accepts the invitation right he
thinks he's having dinner with Marcus. Yeah. We cut right to Patrick and
Paul at a nearly empty Mexican restaurant. By the time Patrick arrives, Paul's
berating their waiter and they both rudely bark their drink orders at them. When
the waiter asks if they'd like to hear the specials, Patrick says, not
if you want to keep your spleen, So it goes without saying the waiter's
his panic. Right. There's a line that I love in this where Patrick's
trying to convince, like Paul's like, why did you bring me to this
shitty restaurant? He goes, the mud soup and charcoal arugula are outrageous.
Here, mud soup and charcoal arugula. It's excellent. That's such good writing.
A while later, Paul is clearly two sheets to the wind, and
Patrick asks how he managed to get the biggest account in the firm. Paul
still won't give away the trade secrets, and Patrick mentions Evelyn's name, and
Paul sneers that she has a great ass, but she's going out with that
dork Patrick Bateman because remember he thinks Patrick is Marcus. Yeah, it's all
very confusing. It's so confusing because like, who do they think Patrick Bateman
is? Right? And I understand, like how in book that could work
because you're like, you don't it keeps you off your guard. You're like,
Okay, do I even trust this narrator? Then what's happening? But
in a movie when there's like a it's a visual medium, Yeah, I
don't understand. I'm like so because it's not the first it's it's one of
the many times this happens in the movie where people mistake him for someone else,
and I'm like, is the idea that all these guys are basically interchangeable?
Like I couldn't quite figure that out? Fair So anyway, he calls
him a dork, right, and Patrick just smiles at Paul and then smash
cut to a very drunk Paul sitting on a tarp covered chair in Patrick's apartment.
The living room floor is also entirely covered by newspapers Bitch, Run,
Bitch, Go Run, Run, Bitch Run, Bitch, Molly you in
danger Girl. Paul keeps drinking, he just can't stop drinking, and Patrick
plays a Huey Lewis CD Huey Lewis in the News. This is the iconic
scene in the movie that everyone knows, right. He puts a raincoat on
over his suit. He grabs an axe that he just happens to have in
his kitchen. He starts to wax on about the hidden genius of Kiuey Lewis
in the News, about how like conformity is actually like a greater good for
society and that's what Huey Lewis is espousing. And in a way, Huey
Lewis is like a subversive genius. And I was just like, oh,
keatoki, this is the most excited. He's so happy Patrick. He's got
like a big creepy grin on his face all time. He starts to dance,
and he's like he's energetic, Like all of the remove from before is
gone and now he's actually coming like Paul's like, is that a raincoat?
He's like, it is, Paul, it's a raincoat. You're right.
All his on Wii is just gone, and he's just like, whoa alive?
So suddenly and yet completely predictably, because we know where this is going,
Patrick picks up his axe and hacks Paul to death while screaming you won't
be able to get it at doors. Yeah, when you're dead, motherfucker.
So that the way they shoot it is he he starts to swing the
axe, his maniacal expression on his face. You just see Jared Leto like
turn around, and then it cuts back to the Patrick Patrick's perspective, so
you don't see anything any of the murders, any of them see him swinging
the axe down and the blood like splatters on his face. Yeah, and
the blood is very bright colored again, like it's it's it's theatrical, one
hundred percent, it's one hundred percent Giallo. I think that might be what
the movie is going for. I think that's that's intentional. Right, It's
like this like over the top, like operatic version of violence instead of realistic
violence. Yeah, it makes sense to me, And having seen the movie,
now that they actually were able to make a Broadway musical out of this.
Oh my god, I forgot. Yeah, I forgot there was a
Broadway musical. I did not see it. I guess you didn't either.
No, I didn't run for that long. No. I think it was
a pretty It was pretty in and out. Yeah. I can't imagine someone
like unless is it like a jukebox musical to Huey Lewis in the I believe
there are there are both. There are Huey Lewis and the News songs in
it, But I think it's all like, there's both. There's some original
songs and some Phil Collins perhaps you know what. Now, Now I'm really
sad in I want everyone to know that Erica was like caressing for computer screen
while she did that, like like like it like it was like it was
a breast. I was so excited. I was like, yes, tell
me more about this Phil Collins jukebox musical about a serial killer in the eighties.
Never seen her more sexually aroused by entire life? Was it Jonathan grob
Just tell me it was Benjamin Walker. Oh my god, Oh my god,
that's such that so good. Okay, so obviously Paul dies alright,
be Paul out Hey. Patrick then stuffs Paul's corpse into a Jean Paul Gattier
Duffel bag I love all the new like the name drops of all the fashion
like stuff in this movie. He drags it out to the curb outside his
building. He takes it into a taxi cab and throws it in the back
of a taxi cab. He passes his doorman on the way and Lewis,
who happens to be walking by. Lewis is like, oh, I love
your duffel? What is that? What brand is that? Neither the doorman
nor Lewis mentioned or even clock the fact that he's carrying a human corpse shaped
bag out of this building. Again, the movie is kind of the whole
time. It is kind of telling you, yeah, what's going on.
But like again, I thought it was a different story. I think I
just thought it was making a comment on New York, how obsessed with wealth
they are. They see Jean Paul Gautier and not and they don't the obvious
corpse in the bag. Patrick uses Paul's own keys to break into his apartment
and nearly has a panic attack. I wrote this line down. This was
actually the real line in the movie where I was like, that is very
funny, and I can't laugh because I don't. I just simply don't know
what I'm two on edge to laugh, but I know it's funny, he
says in voiceover. There is a moment of sheer panic when I realize that
Paul's apartment overlooks the park and is obviously more expensive than mine. It's like,
what a fucking loser. Ha. He packs Paul's suitcase and he leaves
an appropriately douchey outgoing message on Paul's answering machine, saying he's going to London
for a few days for work. A few days later, Patrick is sitting
in his office. He's listening to the Lady Red is dancing with me against
such a great needle dry all right, So he's staring out the window when
Private Detective Donald Kimball played by Willem Dafoe. If there was an actor that
more needed to be in this movie with Christian bal than Williem Dafoe, I
do not know who it is. I don't me either, I couldn't name
the person. Uh So Donald apologizes for interrupting Patrick while he's quote unquote working
and Patrick shoves his Walkman in magazine into a desk drawer. Donald is friendly
and core Joel and asks Patrick some basics about Paul, like where did he
hang out? Where did he go to school? And Patrick asks whether Donald
already knows this information, and Donald smiles and says, yes, I just
want to know if you know it. Patrick gives him some info and he
says that he suspects Paul was into that whole Yale thing. And then he's
like, what Yale thing? Because remember Donald is a is a normy,
He's one of us. He's not in this upper echelon. He's like,
what do you mean by Yale thing? You know? The answer is so
good. He says, you know, a cocaine addicted closet at homosexual that
Yale? Yea what? Then Patrick tells Donald that he has a lunch meeting
in twenty minutes with Cliff Huxtable and shows Donald out. Okay, so like
that's an allusion to The Cosby Show, which in nineteen eighty seven was the
biggest show on television. Everyone was watching it. Yeah, this guy can't
even lie, right, He's like, may as well just be like,
I have an appointment with SpongeBob SquarePants. I gotta go. Yeah, the
fact that he doesn't get caught is so funny the whole movie. He's terrible
at this, He's so bad at it. A few nights later, we
see Patrick wearing a black tie. Right, like he's clearly come from some
event somewhere. Right, he's writing in a limo. He picks up a
sex worker played by Kara Seymour. Did you recognize her from a previous that
aged Well film? I didn't. She is Tom Hanks's wicked stepmother and you've
got mail. Oh my goodness went to the seat. You can't un see
it. And that makes this movie way more disturbing, way weirder. Yeah,
so he picks her up in the meatpacking district, which in nineteen eighty
seven would have still had sex workers in him. Yeah. The other thing
about this movie is they constantly are shooting empty New York streets. Yeah,
they may have been in Vancouver or something. I know they did some shooting
here. Actually, that alleyway where he kills that man does not exist.
That's not in There's no alleyway like that. Otherwise we'd all just be like,
well, that's murder alley so we're all gonna stay out of there.
Yeah. Well, the whole thing about this movie too is I'm like,
there's not a single woman I know who would not have a four second conversation
with Patrick Bateman and be like, your murderer, stay away from me.
Yeah, absolutely not. So he picks this woman up, and he introduces
himself as Paul Allen and tells her that her name for the rest of the
night is Christy. We never learned her real name. He takes her to
his apartment and on the way he calls an escort service from his giant Zach
Morris telephone and he asks for a young blonde who works with couples. Right,
so he's in the mood for a threesome. He's who is in He's
spicing up his life. Booms among us? Who booms to among us?
And honestly, though, like that sex worker working the meat packing district in
nineteen eighty seven, you see a limo pull up, you see a guy
that looks like that, yeah, dressed in a tuxedo, and you're like
chu ching. When the other sex worker arrives, he names her Sabrina.
Your name is going to be Sabrina and the other woman's like cool, cool
whatever, clearly like a very like high priced escort. Oh. She is
played by Christa Sutton, by the way. So he has them sit on
the couch, he serves them wine, and then he tries to impress both
women by telling him he's a successful investment banker on Wall Street. They're so
unimpressed by this douchebag. They're like, pay us our money and fuck us,
let us get out of here and let let's go. Yeah. Patrick
instead puts on a Phil Collin CD and starts monologuing to the women about the
genius of Phil Collins and genesis an Invisible Touch. I will tell you right,
I actually love the song Invisible Touch. It's a fucking banger. I
was in a road trip recently and a Phil Collins song against all odds,
uh huh came on the radio, and fifteen year old me would have been
so angry at forty three year old me, who was like, turn it
up, pump up the jam, Phil Collins rocks. Oh my god,
I love this song. It's such a good song. It's such a dorky
song, and I'm like, well that's who I am now, I'm the
lady who likes Phil Colin imagined like that was my favorite runner in the mo
is him just like being like, you know what band is amazing, Mike
and the Mechanics. You know what band you really don't understand? Kaja Goo
Goo? Have you heard She's like the Wind by Patrick Swayze? That song
will change your life? It's good. That's apparently from the book too.
Like in the book there are stretches of like, I'm assuming, like Brett
Easton ellis talking about bands he likes and Patrick Bateman, I really because every
time it happens a few times in the movie and it's it's great, every
funny. It's so funny where he's just like Peter Gabriel Sledgehammer is something that
really changed me as a young person. A all right, So Patrick goes
about setting up a camera in his bedroom. He's art directing the scene he
wants to play out by the way was filming negotiated. Christy and Sabrina may
want to sing out a little bit here, Yeah, maybe like this is
gonna cost extra. Yeah, the internet hadn't been invented. They didn't care.
The fine film is naked. We don't give a shit. Literally,
no one will ever see this. They get into a threesome underscored by Sue
Sue Studio. The fucking Susue Studio is maybe my favorite joke in the movie.
It's so goddamn funny. He's he is fucking them while he's staring at
himself in the mirror, directing them to look at the camera. He's flexing.
He's just completely turned on by his own image. The lengths this movie
goes to to obscure Christian Bale's penis, I know they're trying so her Christian
Bale is like, I don't care. You guys like, yeah, but
we can't show it. Okay, So I understand why they don't show it.
I'm not even saying I want to show at this point. But my
favorite thing they'll do is have like a man in a movie pull out of
like full penetration and like a shadow falls over his crotch and you can't see
anything, and I'm like, well, there's a thing that's there. He
doesn't have a vagina that can be obscured by a simple shadow. Yeah,
that's the two thousands four early two thousands are like, if we put a
penis in this movie, that's guaranteed. In seventeen, We're We're gonna We're
not even an r anymore, Like all we can show all the violence in
the world, but god forbid we show Christian Bale's balls. By the way
he is raw dogging two sex workers in eighty seven, I had the same
thoughts. I was like, bitch, Mollie, you in danger girl?
What are you doing? Can I say? Like to me? And I
guess, I guess this is a weird thing, but like this is the
most violent scene in the movie to me, Like the sex scenes are so
violent, Like he's not pretty vanilla to me, but there's something about the
intensity of the way he's like fucking these women and not looking at them and
like dehumanizing them. I actually found the sex scenes more, way, way,
way more disturbing than the violence, because the violence is always couched in
some level of like comedy like this over the top grand Ganol like Nonz And
the sex scenes are also over the top because like there's one there's a moment
here where it's like the two women look like they're what their doggy style?
What is a smaller dog? One's a bigger women are doggy styling each other
and I'm like, I don't, but how what's happening? And then he's
behind so it's like it's like a train happening, but it's two vaginas in
a penis. I'm like, that's a bisexual train that should have a man
in the middle. Technically technically, technically again whatever. But like, to
me, these scenes, over the top though they may be, and the
fact that it's set to Sisudio helps are almost more violent to watch and more
they were harder for me to watch than any of the day. Oh that's
funny, because they were the funniest part to me. It's so over the
top and ludicrous. And and the women at this part of the movie,
the actresses are not performing scared, they're performing. They're performing like perfunctory.
They're like, all right, I mean to do a job. You want
me to eat her? Whatever? Well, money screen great, you know,
So like I I see your point about like the dehumanization, but it
for me, as a man and not a woman, I was able to
be like this is fucking ridiculous. Like that that threesome you just describe where
he's like behind two of them, Like what is his dick so long?
That he's like, somehow fucking one of them through the other one the other
one. Is that what's supposed to happen, Like this is ludicrous? Oh
my god, maybe that is what because he's filming it right, yeah,
like maybe that is what he's trying to capture and film, like he's gonna
show it to someone later and be like, I'm fucking both of them at
once right now, and like, no, you're not. I'm hitting two
clips with one deck and you're like, no, you're not. You can't.
Yeah, you're not doing that. So later that night, after everyone's
climax, or at least Patrick ass or actually no one has. I'm not
sure that Patrick orgasms. I don't think so. Yeah. If he did
orgasm, it was after a particularly strong flex in himself in the mirror and
they just came. Yeah. I just threw up in my mouth a little
bit. Yeah. Patrick opens a drawer full of clamps and saws another torture
device and Paul goes glu Sabrina asks if they can go, and he says
sternly, we're not done yet, and then we smash cut to both women
in tears as they get their payment and run out of the apartment and they
have visible scars and bruises. This I think actually does happen. Why because
he doesn't kill them, and like because they are sex workers, and so
like there's there are no consequences like this ship that happens a lot. Probably
we see them crying and leaving, and so they're like the other the other
murders. There's no like once they're dead. They're dead, right now,
that's just a consequence of being dead. But there's no like famously, there's
no close up on the victim's face in like like screaming. You're seeing them
have like a real human reaction. You have a human reaction to his actions.
Okay, so to me in my head, and again there's no way
to tell because this movie is so ambiguous. Yeah you thought it was fake.
Clearly I didn't have the reaction that you had to the actual sex act.
Like I found it funny, So it lived in the same space as
the rest of the movie for me, them crying and leaving the apartment angry
could be part of it for the fantasy. That's the thing too. There's
no way to be like, no, I'm right, yeah, the movie
doesn't tell you and I but in my head and my canon like this is
this actually happens, okay, which is I don't know, a dark Knight
of the soul, my friend, So okay. We cut to Patrick,
greg and David later on having the most misogynistic conversation in the world. And
to be clear, it's not Patrick that starts it. It's Craig. It's
Josh Lucas's character, who, by the way, brave performances by all these
actors who are just going hand for like they're going for it right, And
he's like, if a woman has anything like any smart or sense of humor
or god forbid, talent whatever that means, it's just because she's so ugly,
no one ever wanted a fuck her. Yeah, it is brutal to
listen to you. It is really intense. And they're all laughing and like
agreeing with each other, and they're like, women are stupid and women deserve
like all this shit that comes to them. Yeah, it's so, and
like, but couched in this like, no one has said anything yet that
crosses the line to in this in this circle, right, And I think
it's important that they do it like that because it's so it avoids the bird
cage problem. The problem I have with the bird cage where you've tried to
satirize and what you have done is come up with someone who is less ridiculous
than what we are dealing with in the real world today. Yeah, and
this the writers were smart enough to be like, no, it has to
be the most ludicrously over the top thing. Because they're both women, and
because they've probably heard various things, they're like, we know, we know
what is kind of acceptable because we know what people are saying to our faces.
Yeah. Right, So, like, it's got to be worse behind
closed doors. Behind those doors they're like clubhouses, and if we're gonna satirize
it, we've got to turn the volume all the way up. Yep,
which Patrick does. So they're all they're all having this conversation. Patrick's been
pretty quiet, and you kind of expect him to do that thing that he
does earlier in the movie where he's like, guys, we should be talking
about women that way. He's trying to fit in, he's trying to fit
in, but instead he goes, do you know who ed Gean? Is?
Edgan? By the way, in case you don't know, very famous
serial killer. I did not the guy, the guy that Norman Bates is
based on in Psycho Just a heads up, and Patrick chimes in with this
ed Gan quote about wanting to see a pretty girl's head on a spike.
Yeah, and that's a bridge too far even for these assholes, these nightmare
asshole men. And they're all they all just like stare at him with this
like slightly concerned look on their faces, like okay, buddy, what did
you just say. Then Lewis breaks attention by approaching the group. He is
so happy because he just had new business cards made and he wants to show
his business card off. So he pulls it out and he hands it to
one of them, and the men's faces just the business card is so divine.
By the way, we have to be very clear about the differences in
these business cards. Minuscule. They are minuscule. It is font choices like
sans serif or with serif, but it's the same font it is. It
is like oak, ekrew bone, eggshell, eggshell, ivory like these are
not they're not wild fluctuations yet, Like his card wasn't made by like Andy
Warhol, right, yeh, Yeah. He just pulls and it's all three
men look at it, and they're so embarrassed and jealous and they just cannot
believe this divine thing that they're looking at that they all kind of shut down.
Yep. Patrick will not let this stand. He is a bridge too
far this, sir. You bite your thumb at me, sir aha.
He follows Lewis into the men's room and he puts on a pair of gloves.
Lewis at the urinal. Patrick walks up behind him and look, I
know it's a it's a satire or whatever, doesn't matter, but like you
know, if someone's behind you at the Jurnal, you're in a vulnerable state.
Your antenna or up. So he brings his gloved hands up and he
puts his hands on Louis's neck. And then Lewis turns around and he's Patrick,
and he pulls down the glove on Patrick's hand and he kisses his hand.
Yeah, and he tells him how much he's wanted him all these years,
and Patrick does not know how to react. So, now that you
were brought up like what's real and what isn't real? I almost wonder if
this actually does happen. Oh, I think this is real. This is
real because also he can't bring himself to strangle this person. Yeah, because
it's not a fantasy, it's a real moment. And so he literally just
like puts his hands on Louis's shoulders almost yeah, and does nothing. Like
he doesn't know how to kill someone, so he's just like, now what
happens, And of course Lewis just misreads the whole situation. Yeah, Patrick
rushes to the sink. Louis is confessing, Oh, I'm so happy we
can be open. I've seen you looking at me. Blah blah blah blah
blah. He washes his gloves while he's wearing them great, and then stammers
that he needs to return some videotapes before running out of the restaurant. The
other three douchebros Are down there. They were looking at him as he goes
past, and he turns around and Lewis is at like this elevated level and
he like waves out him. He's like, I'll call you, he mouths,
and then we don't see Lewis again and the rest of the movie,
which I was disappointed. Real bummer, it's a bomb for the rest of
us. The runner of him getting out of situations by saying he needs to
return some videotapes. Yeah, gets funnier every single time it happens. Also
because we see him watching videotapes, so he's either watching horror movies or porn
or hard Hardcar. One of his porn movies is called inside Lydia's ass's title
of someone's calling oscopy tape and tell you that it's funny? Though, is
the scene that we see is not anal sex? But that's okay, okay,
movies contain multitudes that you know what inside Lydia's asked. Maybe it's more
of like a sci fi adventure porn filick perhaps, But yeah, so I
have to go return some tapes. He leaves. He says it like four
times in the movie. It's pretty funny every time. A few days later,
the private detective shows up at Patrick's office again, this time to ask
Patrick where he was the night of Paul's disappearance, which I don't know why
they didn't cover that the first time, right. Patrick's like, well,
let me look at my date book and he kind of glances at it and
pretends to glance at it. He goes, well, I was on a
date with a girl named Veronica. The detective Donald looks very concerned. He's
like, well, I have different information about where you were that night,
and Patrick starts to sweat and the private detectives like, don't worry about it.
It's just I heard something else. So you said you were at it
on a date. When was the last time you saw Paul Allen? I'm
just curious And he's his line again. He's so bad at lying. The
last time I saw Paul was when we went to a new musical called Oh
Africa, Brave Africa. It was a laugh. Bryant. The Detective's like,
okay, well, thank you for your time, and do you mind
if we grab lunch sometime next week to like hash over the final details.
And he's like, I would love that. Please invite me for lunch.
That sounds amazing. He like, way over compensates. Yeah. We cut
to another club seat. This one is so good, Patrick and Timothy that
is that's justin throw. They're doing coke in a nightclub bathroom stall. But
it's like it's like rows and rows of stall and everyone's just doing coke.
That's no one has pooped or pete in any of these stalls. Ever.
You do enough coke you don't have to poop anymore. That's that's part of
the benefits, right. They're having the dumbest coke induced conversation about whether or
not you can catch Alzheimer's and dyslexia from sex, just like you can catch
aids. The man in the stall next to them peeks over and says,
do you mind, I'm trying to do drugs here, and Timothy Nearly jumps
over the bathroom wall. There's an F bomb in this scene. There's a
couple f bombs in the back end of the movie. They're fine. It
is very much with the milieu of this film. I agree. Yeah,
Patrick like grabs him and pulls him back. It's like, sorry, dude,
steroids and you go back out into the club. Patrick talks to a
model who asks what he does, and he replies, murders and executions.
And she says, most guys I know are in murgers and acquisitions. Don't
like it. Yeah, she says, there's something sweet about Patrick, and
she goes home with him. Model, you and danger girl, you're kenon.
Fodder girl, you got a red shirt on. We cut to Patrick
in his office maybe the next day. A few days later, he's fondling
a lock of blonde hair, just like the models of blonde hair. Right,
Jeane walks in and Patrick asks her out for dinner that night. Jeane
has zero fucking chill. Also realize that your boss is an asshole. Come
on, I know, I know. This is such a nightmare. So
he's like, do you want to go have dinner with me? She's like
yes, without hesitation, She's like where would you like to eat? Anywhere
you'd like and she says Dorsia and he's like He's like, Jeane wants to
go to Dorcia, doesn't matter, He's not gonna. He has no intention
of taking her anywhere. He calls the scene meter d up again and he's
like, Hi, I need a table for two tonight at nine pm.
And the guy's like we don't have a table and he's like great, thanks,
And you hear the guy being like we don't have a table and he
just hangs up, and Jean's like, you didn't leave your name and he's
like, they know who I am. Not. All of this is such
a bullshit. So he's like, well, we have a reservation at nine
why don't you meet me at my place before dinner and she's like, okay,
thanks Patrick, that sounds amazing. And before she can feel too good
about herself, before she could have a fleeting moment of self esteem and happiness
must be crushed. He goes, by the way, Jeane, you're gonna
want to change your outfit before we go out tonight. Damn. Later that
night, Jeane goes to his apartment and is duly impressed with how elegant it
is. Patrick offers Jeane some sorbet and she says, oh, okay,
and when he opens his freezer to get it, we see the decapitated head
of a woman, probably the model from the night before, in the freezer,
next to the sorbet. So this I was able to laugh at.
Yeah, because it's so dumb. Yeah. Patrick asks Jeane about herself,
and Jean shyly tells him her hopes and dreams for the future, and Patrick
fingers his knife collection and opens a closet full of murder props. This man
does not ever sit down. He just like wanders around his apartment and talks
to her while she sits on the couch and doesn't move. Yeah, like
it's interest whatever, Like you said, it's all bullshit. So it doesn't
matter that it's unrealistic, but like, it's so funny the power dynamic at
play that they're doing it, that they're playing out like she's afraid to move
or even look at them. She's pray, Yeah, there's nothing like ostentatious
about her. Yeah, and he's just like circling her like a fucking predator
yep, totally oblivious of the danger she's in. Jane asks Patrick if he
ever thinks about settling down and making someone happy, and Patrick, who at
this point has gotten out an industrial nail gun and is standing directly behind Gene
and holding the nail gun to the back of her head, says, I
guess I just want to have a meaningful relationship with somebody special. And at
that moment, Evelyn calls and leaves a flirty message for Patrick that Jane can
hear, and Jane looks hurt. She asks Patrick if he wants her to
go, and he says, yes, I think if you stay, something
bad will happen. I think I might hurt you. Jane leaves, but
not before reminding Patrick that he has a lunch date the next day with Donald
the detective. This scene's super interesting, right, like this is a turning
point for the character. He doesn't like her, but he weirdly cares about
her, he feels like responsible for her. Well, it's it's like he
he hurt her emotionally with the Evelyn call. Yeah right, and that's what
he can't process in some weird way. So this is real, right,
this is really happening. Oh possibly, again, the movie's so ambiguous it's
hard to tell in retrospect. Yeah, like what's real and what's not?
I think this is all real that Yeah, like that makes sense to me.
So we cut to lunch with Donald Patrick is sweaty and nervous. He
could not look more guilty. I read somewhere that Christian Bale like is somehow
able to make himself sweat what I mean, I'm not surprised when they hose
him down with like a super soaker before the scene, and apparently he's probably
like just clenching all of his muscles and like that will make you sweat eventually,
right, because he's like red in the face. Yeah, he's one
of those actors that goes all out, like crazy, all out. Like
there's a movie he made once, The Machinists, where he had to lose
like I don't know how much weight, and he whittled his body down.
I didn't. I couldn't see the movie. I like he saw de Niro
do it once and he was like, hold my beer. Yeah, he's
one of those who like like he was in character as Patrick Bateman this whole
shoot, What a miserable seven weeks. That must really Jesus Christ. Like
hopefully Jared Letto had it metastasized into what he is now at this point,
and he was basically still vaguely normal. Yeah, and he wasn't going around
being Paul Allen. But can you imagine if the two of them had like
just to throw and Josh Lucas are just staring at her, just the four
texts of assholeary happening on set, Like if Mark Wahlberg had been in this,
the whole fucking set would have exploded. Oh my god. So again,
they're sitting down to lunch. Patrick is super guilty looking. Donald tells
him that the night he disappeared, Paul Allen was supposedly having dinner with Marcus
How I can never say this fucking name. Haberstrom, Habvelstrom, Halberstrom,
Haristrom the guy that he thinks that Paul Alan thought Patrick was right, and
he's like, do you know him? And Patrick's like, yes, I
do. He goes, does Marcus have an alibi for where he was that
night? And Donald says, actually he does. He says he was at
a big dinner that night with several witnesses, friends of yours and including you.
You were at that dinner. And Patrick is so thrilled if he just
handed this, like perfectly gift wrapped alibi. Uh huh, Like the other
guy had no idea how much he was saving Patrick's ass. And he was
like, that's right, I was at that dinner. My date must have
been the next night with that girl. And Donald just drops it and he
suddenly is super friendly and he's like, Nah, don't worry about it.
These things happen all the time. I'm sure this guy just went to London
to blow off some steam and he's gonna show back up in a few days.
And Paul Allen is fine, Yeah, excellent Donald the detective from the
movie. Yeah, so it's time for Patrick to celebrate. What's a guy
to do. You pick up some strange you head right back to the meat
packing district and you find Christy, who is reluctant to get into the car
with him as she had to go to the emergency room after the last time.
She may even need surgery. Christy be smart, girl, girl girl.
He gives her a check for her previous trouble with him. Sex workers
don't take checks. Why are you taking a check? Ask for cash?
So he offers her a huge wad of cash to get in the car,
and he promises that this time won't be like last time, and against her
better judgment, Christy gets in the car. He takes Christy to Paul Allen's
apartment this time right, and there they are met by Patrick's friend Elizabeth,
who is played by the film screenwriter Guenevere Turner. So Elizabeth is like Patrick's
childhood friend, right, hoity toity rich went to Dalton and blah blah blah
and all that nonsense. Right, So she sees Christy sitting in the living
room and she's pretty drunk already, she probably showed up drunk. Patrick says
she's his cousin from France. Okay, she has spoken, so we know
she's American. But he's like, that's my cousin. She's French, don't
ask any more questions. That's my girlfriend. She lives in Canada, Niagaraphone.
Elizabeth obviously figures out this is all bullshit. She doesn't question him.
She's like, okay, whatever we see. Patrick pour both women glasses of
wine laced with some kind of narcotic They both drink it, right. Elizabeth
even notices She's like, this tastes weird, but she drinks two glasses of
it anyway. Right, she is five sheets to the wind. At this
point, Patrick suggested that the two women have sex for his amusement, and
Elizabeth, who remember, has like higher status in this scene. Right,
She's not a sex worker. She doesn't have to do what he tells her
to do. She's like, no, I mean, I know I went
to Sarah Lawrence, but I'm not a lesbian. That was a great line.
Smash cut to Elizabeth and Christy making out on Patrick's couch while he monologues
about the greatness of Whitney Houston and how the greatest love of all is a
powerful anthem of self empathy, which he really relates to since he can't empathize
with anyone but himself. This is funny every time, and the two women
laugh at them. They're like, wait, you like Whitney Houston. For
all the money they dropped on this movie and on the soundtrack, they could
not afford the Greatest Love, and so like a Muzak cover of the Greatest
Love of All plays under the scene. You're absolutely right, you know I
didn't notice that. What's also funny is I bet like some lawyer for Whitney
Houston was like, no, no, absolutely not, no way. We
are not having a Whitney Houston song over a lesbian sex scene. There's no
reason I will not be taking any other questions. We are not hiding anything.
The three of them adjourned to the boudoir. Everyone's under the blankets,
and we see Christy kind of slide out from under the blankets and start to
gather her things while Patrick is having sex with Elizabeth. Just as she's about
to leave, she sees blood start to seep through the sheets. And here's
Elizabeth screaming, and she's like fuck fuck, and Patrick like throws open the
sheets again. Now I don't care that I didn't see Christian Bell's penis in
this movie, but like he is canonically nude for the rest of the scene
and the length that I and truly I don't believe it was him. Christian
Bell, I'm positive would not give a shit about showing a stick on You
know what. It might be too that I saw this on Peacock. Did
you see this some Peacock. It might be that, like the streaming services
blur stuff out. No, I don't believe that, because if Christian Bales
Dick had been shown in this movie, it would have crossed my path at
some point in my adult life as a gay man, fair enough, because
I was like, Netflix would definitely like hang dong. But but I feel
like Peacock might be like, it's in the name, Erica, It's in
the name, But Peacock's like, people came here to watch sitcoms. Can
we just not show dick on this network? Please? On this platform?
How dare you? You only pay five dollars a month for Peacock, You
really don't deserve dick. If I'm paying, I see cock, paycock cock.
So Christie runs to the apartment. She's looking for an exit. And
so this is the horror This is the most horror scene sequence in the whole
movie, because now we're doing this from Christy's perspective, not from Patrick's yep,
and she's now been in this apartment for a while. It almost seems
like she doesn't know how to where the exit is. She's running for like
a while and still is in the apartment. She keeps opening doors, yeah,
and like none of them are in egg and in fact, behind every
door that she opens, there's mutilated corpses everywhere. Patrick catches up to her.
She's on the ground, she falls, He goes down and he's trying
to bite her leg like he's a cannibal. Yeah, And she kicks him
in the face and she runs out of the apartment. She, by the
way, is dressed, so just a neglige, yeah, but she's fully
covered. She's screaming as loudly as she can. She's banging on all the
doors of these buildings. No one is answering, and she starts running down
the stairs. Meanwhile, Patrick, naked and covered with blood, is running
after her with a chainsaw that is running. Yes, Paul Allen's apartment has
a chain saw in it. He watches her from the top of the stairs
and dangles there's running chainsaw over the railing. He aims for her, and
just as she gets to the bottom of the stairs. He drops the chainsaw
and it lands on her and it kills her. Yeah again, you do
not see this happen. This scene is super intense. It's intense. I
will freely admit I missed some of this visual I imagine, so I imagine
Zoe. So we cut to who knows days later. Weeks later, he's
at lunch with Evelyn. Evelyn's just chit chatting again, like we should get
married in the spring and blah blah blah. Meanwhile, Patrick is just drawing
the scene of Christie's grisly death on the tablecloth with crayons. So there's a
woman covered in blood with a chainsaw through her back and Evelyn doesn't even notice.
She doesn't look down, she doesn't care. She brings up their engagement
again, and Patrick finally snaps. He's like, look, I'm sorry,
I have to end this right now. We can't stay together, and she's
like, what do you? Patrick is just tired. Don't worry. He's
like, perfect, no, no, you're not gonna do this to me
again, Evelyn. What about all of our friends. We have all the
same friends, Patrick, You're not thinking this through. And he's like,
you can keep all the friends. I don't want any of them. And
she's so upset she starts to cry and sob at the table. She's making
a scene, and she even misses the part where he just out loud admits
that he wants to focus more time on his homicidal hobbies. He says the
word homicidal. I'm homicidal right now, and I'm trying to focus on that,
and I need to spend less time pretending to be in this relationship.
Yeah, And she doesn't hear it, and all she hears is someone has
broken up with me. And we know from that scene in the bathroom,
and he's not homocidal. He's not homoicidal at all, right, No homicidal.
So she is sobbing loudly. She's and like again, she's creating a
scene, which he fucking hates. So he gets up and just storms out
of the restaurant. Before he leaves, he turns around and he goes,
I need to return some videotapes, the all purpose excuse. In nineteen eighty
seven, we cut to nighttime. Patrick goes to an ATM and there he
finds a stray kitten. Holy shit, this kin. Okay, look,
I'm just gonna spoil this right now that kitten survives the movie. Yeah,
the kitten's fine. I was very worried because I could not remember if the
kitten survived the movie. And I was like, Paul will never ever forgive
me if I force him to watch Kittenside, I don't know what will happen.
Our friendship will be over. We have plans this, we're supposed to
travel together. That's got to be canceled. Like I was genuinely like,
oh no, I have to think five steps ahead. What gift can I
give him that will somehow make it a blu ray copy of Keanu? That
should do it right? Only thing I could think of, but actual Keanu
comes to your door and delivers it. That's right, Keanu with Keanu?
Yeah, all right. So he finds a stray kit in there, he
picks it up, he pets it, and the ATM screen says, feed
me the stray cat. So this was the moment for me where I was
like, okay, what where I was really like not that everything up to
this holds together. But I was in a elevated satirical universe. I was
like, okay, fine, he dropped the chainsaw to be clear, like
fifteen floors, yes, and managed to hit this woman who didn't hear the
chainsaw getting closer and dodge. So you're saying it's her fault, then,
well, I'm just victim blaming and only victims who deserve it, only victims
who don't dodge chainsaw PSA for this episode. If someone throws an active chainsaw
at you, dodge, bitch shot, dodge, bitch dodge. If you
walk into someone's apartment and it is entirely covered in tarps, yeah, yeah,
a careful adieu and be like, I'm sorry, I have to go
buy a Huey Lewis in the new seat. Excuse me, I have to
go returns and videotapes. Aha. He tries to feed the cat to the
ati me just like it's like a square peg in a round hole, right,
just trying to try to put it in. When he can't, he
pulls out a gun and an enormous gun, points it at the kitten,
and I was like, oh my god, I know, I was like,
oh no, please don't, please don't, please don't. Just then
a woman walks by and gasps at the sight, and Patrick shoots her.
She dies immediately, but crucially, he puts the kitten down, and the
kitten is saying he doesn't even drop the cat, which the cat, you
really can't just drop it. He gently puts it down on the sidewalk,
and I'm like, you know that is that's Christian. That's the actor seeping
through to be like, no, I can't drop this cat, Like I
don't care how in character I am. I'm not dropping this cat. A
police car pulls up and Patrick runs away, setting off a bunch of car
alarms in the process. So again we're a'reun like an empty New York City
quote unquote street. Yeah, this is Tribeca, but this is actually Tribeca.
I recognize the street. You think it's Tribecca. Yeah. No,
he passes the Red Street subway station. He passes like businesses that I still
recognize there. I'm like, oh my god. So the police catch up
to him and he has a shootout with them that results in him killing one
of the officers and then shooting at the police car until explodes and in a
fiery infernoky. Okay, he looks at his pistol with confusion. How could
cause so much damage? Yeah, there's a moment of levity here where he's
like, wait, huh. Yeah. He runs into an office building and
he shoots and kills a security guard in the office building. Then he sees
a janitor in the hallway, just kills the janitor for absolutely no reason,
right, not that there was a reason to kill anyone else, but the
janitor wasn't even looking at him. So after he does these two murders,
he runs out of that office building and runs downtown to his office building.
Right. He stops at the security desk and there's a security guard there too.
He reaches into his jacket pocket violently and pulls out a pen ah,
and then he just signs in. He goes up to his office. There's
police helicopters hovering the scene, right, because like several people have been murdered
in the last five minutes. Patrick calls his lawyer. It's like the middle
of the night. No one answers, and he leaves this frantic, sobbing
voicemail on the lawyer's machine. He confesses to killing about twenty to forty people.
Maybe I couldn't keep track of them all, and some of them I
ate their brains. And he seems even embarrassed about that. Part, he's
like, I know that's really gross. Then he just starts to laugh hysterically
as he hears himself, and he's like, I guess you could say I'm
just a really sick guy. Anyway, call me when you get this or
don't. It's fine. I'll be at Harry's bar tomorrow at Chipriani in case
you need to reach me, and he hangs up the phone. The next
day, he goes to Paul Allen's apartment. He knows what he's gonna find
there, but he puts on a mask and he's anticipating a bunch of decomposing
corpses that he's gonna have to clean. Yeah, not a mask to cover
his face, like a literal like face mask like we all wear during COVID,
to be like, I don't want to breathe in whatever's in this apartment.
Yep. He walks in and he's shocked to find a clean and completely
empty apartment. There's a realtor there. This realtor gave a great performance,
such a good performance. Name is Patricia Gage. She's showing the apartment to
a young couple and Patrick's visibly upset, and he asks the realtor if this
is Paul Allen's apartment and she says no, and the realtor starts to get
a bad vibe from him. Right, he is acting all kinds of weird.
Yeah, And she says, you have to go. You can leave
and do not come back. Yeah. He goes to a payphone and he
calls Jane and he starts sobbing, and he tells her he doesn't think he's
gonna make it to the office that afternoon. Gene asks him what's wrong,
and he gets hysterical and screams at her to stop sounding so sad. A
he hangs up on her, and she goes into his office and starts looking
through his desk for some clues as to what's what is going on. She
finds his date book and she goes through it and it has some extremely violent
drawings of women being tortured and murdered. Some of the images are the you
know, the ones that we've seen throughout the movie, the chainsaw through the
woman and like, there's a picture of Elizabeth and he actually wrote the name
Elizabeth, like yeah, but a drawing of her with like being being murdered.
Yeah. So this is why I think the Gene scene is real in
his apartment. Okay, because this is the only time in the entire movie
that we have one character without Patrick. This is entirely from Jean's perspective.
Oh yeah, and she's finding this and it's and she starts to freak out,
like what did I like? What did I almost step into here?
So he joins his friends, his douchebaggery friends for drinks at Harry's bar,
and he sees his lawyer, Harold across the room, the guy that he
called the night before and made that like long confession to. So he goes
up to Harold and he's like, well, did you hear my voicemail?
And Harold starts to laugh and he's like, oh, that was the best
prank voicemail I have ever heard. It was hilarious. Yeah, and then
he starts to call Patrick Davis and he asks about someone named Cynthia. So
it's another Paul Allen situation where he doesn't know who he's talking to, yep,
and he's like that. He's like, your whole prank was so fucking
good and you were so committed to it. The one fatal flaw you had
is no one would believe that dork Patrick Bateman would murder anyone, much less
forty people. And Patrick gets very serious and he's like, no, no,
I'm met Patrick Bateman, and I murdered Paul Allen. And then Harold
gets very serious and he's like, Okay, look, I don't like this
joke anymore. This, this is not funny. This is my line.
Yeah. The first thing that was funny. Yeah, the voice message at
three in the morning, when you're coked out of your brain, probably like
and like pretending to confess to murder hysterical. Yeah, we're gonna play that
at the office Christmas party. Now you're acting fucking week. Now you're interfering
with my day. Yeah. Now this, Martine isn't going down so smooth
because you're harshing the vibe. Patrick's like, no, this is not a
joke. You have to take me seriously. You're my lawyer. And Harold's
like, it is impossible for you to have killed Paul Allen because I saw
Paul Allen a few days ago in London. I had dinner with him twice.
He is very much alive. And he just walks away and Patrick is
stunned, and then he rejoins his friends. He walks back over to his
friends and he sits down and crucially, his friends call him Bateman. I
noticed that because I was now waiting for the movie to be like, they're
gonna start calling him Davis, yeah or some shit, but no, he's
Patrick Bateman to them. And I'm thinking about this right now. This movie
could almost support a reveal of that Christian Bale does not look like Christian Bale
in this movie, yes, but that he is a Lewis Carruthers like Lewis,
like Lewis and Kim are fight clubbing some hundred percent right, that he's
the pitiful one and his ID or ego or whatever. I don't know those
fucking terms, but like the Christian Bale character or form is the dream.
It's what he yeah, or what even what he sees himself as maybe he
actually believes it, yeah, and everyone being like Patrick Bateman is a spineless
loser, which he is, to be clear, but doesn't look that.
But it doesn't look that way, but maybe he act like The movie could
support it if suddenly like he went back and like Christian Bale was not there
anymore, and it was like he looked himself in the mirror yeah, and
it's a different actor playing the character or something, or he's different face in
the mirror. I will talk about it in random observations. There is something
in the movie that definitely supports that theory. Okay, we'll talk about it
later. But like, I think so. Also, I think the facade
he's putting on for the world to fit in, like fit in, I
need to fit in is kind of this spineless dork. It's almost like Superman
and clor kn't write like he's Clark kenting it to be normal quote unquote normal,
and he's overdone it, and so everyone around him thinks he's this spineless
dork, even if he looks like he's the one who says we shouldn't make
anti submitic comments about Paul Allen. What a spineless dork, What a spineless
dork. He's the one that's like, we should talk about apartheid or you
know, shit like that, which to these people means like, h shut
up. To be fair, someone at a dinner party was like, we
should talk about apartheid. I'd be like, for real, are you sure?
Can't we talk about Green's anatomy instead, So he rejoins his friends they're
watching Reagan give a press conference about Iran Contra and they're all talking about what
a shithead and liar Reagan is, which I found very amusing me too.
He takes in the scene of what just happened and he starts to loudly laugh,
like hysterically at nothing, and his friends all look at him and they're
like, are you okay, And he's like, I'm just a happy camper,
Timothy, everything is great. And they all kind of roll their eyes
at him and continue to talk about dinner reservations over his whatever whatever spell he's
under, Yeah, just ignoring it. As Patrick surveys the crowded bar we
hear invoice over his thoughts. There are no more barriers to cross. All
I have in common with the uncontrollable and the insane, the vicious and the
evil, all the mayhem I have caused, and my utter indifference toward it,
I have now surpassed what. My pain is constant and sharp, and
I do not hope for a better world for anyone. In fact, I
want my pain to be inflicted on others. I want no one to escape.
But even after admitting this, there is no catharsis my punishment continues to
elude me, and I gain no deeper knowledge of myself. No new knowledge
can be extracted from my telling. This confession has meant nothing, and the
movie ends with a close up of his like deadened eyes as we hear this
weird end of movie monologue as I'm so relieved that you didn't get it either.
I listened to it twice and I was like, I don't, huh
what. There's a sign above his head that says this is not an exit.
Yeah, like literally, and it is not like a oh look,
this is fun. Let's put this in the shot I checked. That's in
the book. So like that. There's a very clear metaphor literally right over
his head that says, this is not an exit. We did not need
this monologue, this weird, baroque overwritten monologue. My punishment continues to elude
me, and I gain no deeper knowledge of myself. It's like, maybe
Anthony Hopkins could have made this word, maybe as as Hannibal Lecter, the
only only actor in character I could think of. No one can make this
word salad mean something. I have read it, I have listened to it.
It means nothing. It is so anyway I put it all in here
because I was this is my one like huge flaw with the movie. Okay,
I absolutely hate the ending. Okay, fair enough, and that is
the end of American Psycho. I survived, Erek, Aren't you proud of
me? That kitten survived. That kitt survived. That was That was it.
It was touch and go for a minute. I was real worried,
Paul. I was real worried this was not gonna happen. So stick around.
We'll be right back to take you through our random observations and final rankings.
And we're back, Erica. Do you have any random observations on American
Psycho? Okay, so remember you were saying that there's a it supports the
theory that Patrick Bateman doesn't look like Christian Bale in his own mind. This
is funny because I don't think the movie knew at the time that Jared Leto
was going to become hugely famous, right, And so like the very very
beginning of the movie, when they see Paul Allen across the restaurant. I
don't know if you notice this because it happens very quickly, and of course
you don't know yet because you just started watching the movie. That Paul Allen
will later be played by Christian Bale. I definitely didn't notice this because I
don't know what you're leading towards. So at the very beginning of the movie,
they're like, when he's saying all these anti semitic things about Paul Allen,
right, yeah, they're like, that's Paul Allen over there. They
cut to this guy at a table that is absolutely not Jared Leto, not
Jared Letto. So I think in Patrick's mind, Paul Allen looks like Jared
Letto because Jared Leto's like as attractive as Christian Bale. Sure, right,
Like all the other guys are attractive. They're famous actors now, right,
but like everyone's a like slightly more normal version of attractive. Yeah, and
then these two are just like next level good looking. And I think that's
because in his head, Paul Allen has to look like someone like Jared Letto.
It doesn't make any other sense Otherwise, Paul Allen can't just be some
random guy who makes more money than he can gives me slub exactly on the
street. Is that? Like when you rewatch that first scene, you'll notice
they cut to a guy and only and you only notice it really because Jared
Leto's so famous, and I'm like, well, that's not Jared Letto.
I know what he looks like. I know Jared Letto, You, sir,
are know Jared Letto. Look, that is not the man I follow
down the street the other day. Never mind, moving on on. Uh,
there's this line in the beginning, the three douche Bros, the Douche
triplets, uh, the asshole fuckery, Yeah triplets. Yeah, they're sitting
there and they're talking about reservations and they say they can't get a reservation somewhere
because Bateman won't give the matre D head. Oh yeah. The use of
the term head as like blow jobs or oral sex of any kind is so
funny. I don't know why, but the phrase because Bateman won't give the
matre D head tickled me. Tickled me pink. Why do we call it
head? Why don't we call it mouth? Exactly? We should, as
a society just all agree that it's really mouth, because head implies you're doing
other stuff. Yeah, the head has options. I don't like any of
those options. I'm being very clear right now. I do not I do
not advocate any of those options. Don't put it in your eye. Yeah,
you don't want to come up your nose, do not, don't put
don't don't don't put your nose in my in my watch. I don't want
it. Thank you, smell bleach for a week, please and thank you.
I don't need you. I don't need your your snott in my snooch.
I believe the Italian slang is a little mouth. See, there you
go. I think Americans are doing it wrong. I'm not surprised the first
time. We are. We are a puritanical society after all. So there's
there's a couple of things in the movie. I just want to call out.
There's he he will, we will cut to Patrick in his apartment just
casually watching something kind of horrific or like weird while he's doing something else and
not really paying attention to it. So like at one point he's doing crunch
like his one thousand crunches while watching Texas Chainsaw Massacre, or it's on in
the background while he's doing his his morning routine. Ambient noise. Yeah,
which is again why the chainsaw comes in later in the movie. Right,
it's like a shot for shot almost moment from Texas chainsaw massacre. But there's
also like Inside Lydia's Ass, the ambient porn he's watching while he's on the
phone with Evelyn. He took Brian ENO's invention and he made it better.
It's so weird. But then there's there's a threesome scene inside inside Lydia's asked.
Look, I don't want to spoil it if you've never seen Inside Lydia's
Ass, but there is a threesome scene. It is riveted. I'm not
going to tell anyone about Inside Lydy's ask two. Oh, still, I'm
still inside, Still Inside, Inside for the winter. I you know,
it's one of those things. But I don't think they needed a sequel like
I think, because it's all the same scenes, just elevated, elevated.
But I'll tell you one thing. Inside Lydia's asked for the twists, and
that that say, Now, they got a new writer and a new director
on that one, right, Same Lydia, Same Lydia, and they changed
the genre. It is still hardcore pornography, but it is also a driver's
ed video. Yeah, fascinating, fascinating. They've never had a group of
sixteen year old boys learn more in Driver's ed the things Lydia can do with
a stick shift revolutionary read she slaid the house down boots. Wait, why
did I bring this up? Because it's it's just weird that, like I
bet, ambient porn seemed a lot weirder in two thousand than it does now.
But the idea that someone's just sitting in their house, like, first
of all, he rented those tapes. He there's a Kim's video in that
neighborhood has the most upsetting list of movies for Patrick Bateman. Have you ever
been at someone says you know, you used had those things where like your
screensaver be your photos and every a while, let's get a dick. No,
he is Honestly, the last time I saw one of those it was
on my mom's computer. So no that so if it's a dick, I
don't want to see it. I don't need to see it. I just
have one more and you cut the scene out of the recap, which is
fair. It doesn't it doesn't matter. But Courtney, who is Lewis's girlfriend,
Patrick's drugged update from the Samantha mathis she has one scene where she like
she and Patrick have sex and then afterwards he's getting dressed, and it seemed
to me that she is basically saying goodbye because she's planning on dying by suicide.
So yeah, I think so too. Yeah, And like it seemed
abundantly clear, and the scene's just kind of there. She's to be clear,
fantastic in it. I don't know why the scene is there except maybe
for Samantha mathis to be like extremely depressing and to show him not notice.
Yeah, I think that's what it is. Yeah, but it's it's just
I just wanted to shout it out. Yeah, Yeah, I think that's
what it is. It's someone actually trying to make a human connection with him
and he just can't he can't recognize it. I just have one more and
was one of my favorite lines in the movie, and it belongs to Dick
Van Patten, the friend that we never really talk about. Yeah, Bill
Sage. Bill Sage in the very beginning of the movie, he just walks
back into the scene like he's gone from the scene and he walks back in
and he goes, that is not a good bathroom to do cocin. Everything
about that line is amazing, fantastic. Did they just drop it after that
no one, no one even pays attention like that is not a good bathroom
do cocin Boo boo. I'm gonna give it a zero rating. On the
cats bathrooms to do cocaine guide, What would make a good bathroom? Do
cocain hand mirrors? Yeah? If John Mulaney's last stand up specialist to be
believed, a lot of flat surfaces. Okay, you want a lot of
flat surfaces to do cocon All right, Paul, how shall we rank this
film one to ten? You won't believe the band ub forty? Aha?
Red Red Wine is such an important song about Vintner's Yes, absolutely. You
know what band is amazing? Ario Speedwagon. Have you heard keep On Loving
You from their nineteen eighty album High Fidelity. It will change your entire life
outlook on loving other people. The greatest vocalists of the eighties are Milli vanilli
Ha. Have you listened to Air Supplies Making Love out of Nothing at All?
From their nineteen eighty three self titled album It is life changing? You
know what My favorite song is Charlene's I've Never Been to Me because when she
says I've been to Paradise, but I've never been to me. It makes
me think about how the fact is I've never been to me because I am
not a geographical place. Also, I am paradise one to ten, raw
dogging, raw poultry. Oh yeah, there's this. There's a movie where
Melissa McCarthy and Octavia Spencer play superheroes. It's on Netflix. It's not good.
Okay, it is bad. There's a runner in the movie where the
way they get their superhero powers or like causing them to eat raw chicken.
It is the most stomach turning failure of a joke ever seen. It is
repulsive because they obviously fake chicken breasts, but they're like, oh oh,
but even thinking about it, my stomach is churning. Eugh. You know
what, I want my partridge to be extra rare. You know what,
I want my squab to be bloody. One to ten cocks on peacock or
cox not on peacock. Yeah, where's you cock? Christian? Hey,
hey, Christian, show us your cock man. You owe us this much.
I lived through this and I got no dick at it. I feel
like he would if we asked, Oh yes, nice, Absolutely, he
seems like he seems like he's up for anything. I like this rip it
out? You like this one? I like this one tail yeah, like
cox on Peacock. Do you want to go first or shall I go first?
I'll go first? Okay, go for it, because I was actually
excited to talk about this movie fair in terms of how it ages. It
ages really well in a way, almost better than it is a movie.
Does that make sense? So, like as a movie, I have some
notes, like I wish it could be a little bit better. I get
it, like the source material is what it is. Yeah, so they
can't quite change, Like they can't quite change that, like ha ha,
ending that the movie that the book must have that the movie now has.
But even my issues with the movie, like it does so much. It's
so smart. Even the idea of like all the all the people who are
not part of this world are going to be people of color. I could
see how some people would that would rub them the wrong way. But it's
such an obvious point to me that like it's kind of subtextual, you know,
it's not they don't hit you on the head with it. They do
hit you on the head with the misogyny. Yeah, but they kind of
have to otherwise it doesn't justify like all the violence to women that we see
in the movie, right, and I do think them pushing it that far
has allowed the satire to remain a satire as we have learned more and more
about the things that people say, yeah, think and feel, Yeah,
grab by the pussy Paul, Yeah exactly. So please vote if you're listening
to this the United States and in November, please please, please, please
please vote. It actually does pass the Bechdel test. The scene with Elizabeth,
which is funny because it's the writer of the movie the scene. I
wonder she was like, we have to put one scene where two women talk
to each other. It's see with Elizabeth and Christy. It's not much.
It's crumbs, I will admit that. But but the film is such a
like it's told from one person's perspective, except for that one scene that we
get of genes at the very end, So it passes the Bechdel test.
It is not that diverse, but the diversity that is in the film is
very pointed and makes a lot of sense. Yep, I'm gonna give it
an eight out of ten. Cox On Peacock also the female director noness of
it all, like the gaze that we get on Christian Bale at the beginning
of the movie is I don't think it's accidental. I think it is very
sexualized. It's very like almost like a romantic at first, to try to
get us to like fall in love with this character a little bit before he
turns into a fucking psycho. And I think also the pulling back of the
violence. Maybe a male director would have done that as well. I don't
know if Oliver Stone would have, but kind of one hundred percent, but
I think there. I think the fact that that two women got their hands
on this script and a woman directed it really cranked the satire up to eleven
and turned the violence and the and the like inadvertent misogyny down all the way.
So I think it ages very very well. It may not be people's
cup of tea. It also, I like I said before, kind of
just stops. Doesn't even end. It just stops, and I'm like,
uh huh. So it's not not a perfect movie. But if you want
to see a really good performance, if you want to hear some really funny
dialogue, if you want to if you want to have like make fun of
like like restaurant dining out culture, this is your movie totally, how about
you, Paul, Yeah, I agree with what you're saying, Like I
think I think you're right. It kind of aged interestingly into something perhaps even
more trenchant now. Or why because Patrick Bateman was president for a while,
Because we got fucking Patrick Bateman, someone who failed up so hard they managed
to become president. Yeah, kind of. Yeah. As far as like
the gay stuff in the movie goes, I read somewhere that people were like
upset that, like Patrick Bateman was homophobic, and I'm like, for real,
for real, Like, for a he's a serial killer, so we
don't need them on our side, and like, of course it's nineteen eighty
seven and he's a stockbroker, Like come on, obviously this guy would be
homophobic, you know. And and again the Lewis Caruthers, I said,
I'm not offended. I'm just confused. It's so much and I get they
just wanted a big, over the top, stereotypical gay performance, but like
the costume choices and like everything about it, it's not that stereotypically gay to
me. It also is it's more nerdy. It's nerd. It's a nerd
who happens to be gay. Yeah, maybe they Maybe they were trying to
make the gay twist a surprise by making it so nerdy. I think because
it's worked on me. I'll be honest, because I wasn't getting gay right
away. Yeah, you get it eventually, but I was more getting like
sycophantic nerd. Yeah. I'm fine with all of it. It's not my
movie, like you say, it's not everyone's cup of tea, not really
my cup of But I was never bored, and I certainly do respect like
the fact that it has an artistic vision without a doubt like yeah, and
I guess if I had a critique for it, I would I would say
it gets repetitive and agreed, and there was a point where the escalating insanity
had diminishing returns for me. You give it an eight, Yeah, I'll
give it an eight. I'll give it an eight out of ten cocks on
peacock that I hope to be graced with soon. I will I ever watch
it again? No, well, I feel the need to offer a palate
cleanser. Also, no, if this is this is something you're interested in
watching, Godspeed, it is certainly an interesting movie that you can think a
lot about. And have lots of opinions on and if it is not your
thing, you should not watch it. You know what actually would be a
decent palate cleanser if you don't want to watch something quite this violent is the
Menu. Oh yeah, that movie that came out with like a year or
two ago, year or two ago, yeah, yeah, with Anya Taylor,
Joy Ray Fines. It's it's on streaming services right now. I know
of that for fact, and it's about it's about like an ultra exclusive like
like restaurant. Yeah, and you know what, I don't even want to
go any further. It's just very funny. Yeah, all right, So
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Lang's trash to find proof that she is a heterosexual, or the time we
planted a story about Amy Grant being a secret atheist. Those were good times,
Michel, and we can have them again. More is ready to accept
your apology whenever you are ready to give it. But until then, I
say thank you to Mindy for being a patron of that age. Dwell,
farewell, my sweetings. I would love to know what proof they found on
Katie Lang. I know what did they find that was? What is the
heterosexual thing that she had in her? Is it a subscription to Real Simple
magazine? Is that what she had? I don't know what that is.
Every woman got that joke, None of them en did Paradox. I do
believe the name of Grants and atheist though that I buy for all? Right
Erica? Any final thoughts on American Psycho? Do you know what song will
absolutely change your life? Old Time rock and Roll? By Bob Seger from
his nineteen seventy eight seminal album Stranger in Town. It is about a man
who appreciates the finer things, the older things, the nostalgia for Americana,
and don't we all don't we all wish for old time rock and roll?
Suddenly, but yet solely, totally predictably, Patrick picks up his ass and
hacks Paul to death. You said Patrick picks up his ass. He does
pick up his ass. Pick up that ass, though, baby,