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I'm in Madison Square Park the other
day. Okay, And Madison Square Park,

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for anyone who doesn't know, it
has a bunch of like looping pathways

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in it. Like it's a small
park but has a shack as a shake

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shock as the original shake shack.
That's why we love it. Yeah.

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So I'm like walking through because I
had a little time for my appointments.

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I'm like walking to Madison Square Park
and I go around this one loop and

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I see this woman, grown ass
woman my age, you're older, sitting

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there with her boyfriend. Her boyfriend
or husband or whoever, has his arm

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around her shoulders. They're leaning back
and they have a baby on their lap.

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Very cute. The picture of domestic
lists exactly exactly. She's a little

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glammier than you might expect for a
mother of a young child, but hey,

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it's New York. Takes all kinds
right. Walk around and I come

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back around again and they're still there, and she still has the baby.

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I'm like, well, it's a
really quiet baby. And I'm walking past

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and I get past, and I'm
like, was that a doll? And

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I immediately turn around and realize I
can't turn around and look because it's and

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I can't stare at these people,
so I do like a little whoop pirouette

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in the middle of Badie's a square
park and I do the loop again and

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I come back around, and yes
it is. The woman has a doll,

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like a lifelike doll on her lap. She has her fingers and you

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know how like babies grab your finger. Yes, so she has her finger

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in the baby's hands, moving up
and down. The doll's ears are pierced,

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big blue eyes. Oh you know, they're perto Rican and America.

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And this is that aged well yesterday's
pop culture today, And it is the

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final week of May. It is
the final week of Mother's Day May.

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We're celebrating women, were celebrating women
and watching them get murdered. Spoilers.

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But before we get to the final
movie, which we both have lots of

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thoughts about, so many thoughts,
so many thoughts we do have, we

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do have an Apple Podcasts review Erica. Do you want to read this one?

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Sure? This is my perfect review. Today's review comes from Brisbee.

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Truly enjoyable, extended universe, few
notes, happy face emoji, love it.

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It's so short and I have so
many questions what does extended universe mean?

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I think it's one of our episodes
where we like create an extended universe

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for something. But I can't possible
unless I saw the timestamp, I wouldn't

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have any idea which episode they're referring
to. Few notes, a few oh

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well yeah, more nudity, fewer
notes, fewish notes. I mean,

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Paul, we're pretty shrill. I
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the pitch that our voice is hit
is. As the editor, I can

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say, irritated, uncomfortable. Yeah, it's not the best, Brisbee,

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thank you so much for this review. We loved it. If you would

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like aid that age weel tok bag, please go ahead. Let us know

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this is you and I will send
it off for you. Erica, what

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is the final movie that we are
doing in May twenty twenty four? Today's

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film is the two thousand psychological horror
film. I'm gonna question that genre stamp,

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but we'll move on American Psycho.
I actually I will agree with you.

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I don't think that. I don't
think that's stamps is satire. It's

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satire, is sious thing, satire
with a little horror sprinkled in for fun.

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Yeah, yeah, this is a
fucking satire. This movie is funny,

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you know what. I had a
journey with that, but we'll get

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into that later. Okay. So
American Psycho was requested by Nina, by

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Emily, by Sydney, by Sunny, by Jen, by Desiree and Erica.

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This is our Patreon pick of the
month. We polled movies Paul does

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not want to watch. Yep.
We pulled American Psycho up against Billy Madison,

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and let me tell you, it
was real Sophie's choice situation. It

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really like the day before the polls
closed, they were at fifty to fifty.

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It was fifty to fifty, and
I didn't we were gonna have to

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flip a coin. And I was
so pulling hard for American Psycho that I

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was like, can I just pick
the movie? And Paul's like, no,

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you can't. Just so thank you, thank you, Thank you to

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the whoever it was that got us
over the fifty to fifty home for American

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Psycho. I love you. Yep, it won fifty two percent to forty

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eight percent. In the final moments, I will be honest, I was

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rooting for whichever movie was losing because
I just didn't want to watch the one

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that was winning at any given moment. It was a real it was a

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real shit sandwich for me. It's
a real turd panini. Yeah, but

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we are here. I have watched
the movie. I think I knew you

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were gonna like this more than you
would have liked Billy Madison. That's true.

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You did say that, and I
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did. I'll admit it because I
will get into later. I was actually

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like scared to watch this movie because
I knew the reputation. Yeah, you

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were tense watching it. You know. That's on me. I should have

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warned you ahead of time. I
should have been like, this is a

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social satire with horror elements like mixed
in. The reputation this movie has is

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like a fucking like Gorfest. Gorfest
is undeserved, undeserved and yes, completely,

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we'll get into it. We'll get
into it. So. American Psycho

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was written by Mary Harron and Guenevere
Turner, based on the nineteen ninety one

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novel by Brett Easton Ellis. It
was directed by Haron and stars Christian Bale,

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Willem Dafoe, Jared Leto, Josh
Lucas Samantha Mathis, Matt Ross,

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Bill Sage, Chloe seven Ye,
Kara Seymour, Justin Thureau, and Reese

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Witherspoon. There are two Academy Awards, three Academy Award winners. I forget

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Jared Letto has an Oscar. Fucking
Willem Dafoe has been nominated like one hundred

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times, so give him an Oscar
already. Do you think that Reese Witherspoon

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broke up with Ryan Philippy because she
walked in once and she was holding a

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spoon and he was like Reese with
her spoon. I don't know that Ryan

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Philippe has that in his arsenal.
If I'm being honest, you think it's

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too funny for Ryan. I think
it's a little too punny for right.

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I feel like that he doesn't his
brain doesn't go there. It's all my

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brain does. American Psycho was Christian
Bale's breakout role, and director Mary Harron

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had to fight to get him cast. She was briefly fired from the project

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as the studio attempted to replace him
with Leonardo DiCaprio. I have thoughts.

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Then they brought in Oliver Stone to
direct, which, honestly I would have

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liked that movie version, I think
less, but I would have liked to

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have seen it. He also kind
of made this movie already and he called

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it on Wall Street, Wall Street. Yeah, he did. He already

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made this movie. After DiCaprio's attempt
with Oliver Stone fell through, the studio

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still fought for a bigger star,
but ultimately Haron was able to keep bail

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although he was only paid fifty thousand
dollars for this role. That's nuts,

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that's fucking crazy. Yeah, because
this is the forest gum situation where I

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don't think we'd still be talking about
this movie if Christian Bale hadn't started it,

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if he hadn't given this performance,
this like crazy balls to the wall,

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gonzo, fucking gonzo performance, I
don't think. I think this movie

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would have sort of faded into the
two thousands of femera. It's one of

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the greatest performances of the two thousands, and I think maybe one of his

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best performances. And that's a high
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Christian Bale is crazy good, Like
he's a very good actor, crazy good.

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American Psycho has a sixty five percent
critical rating on Rotten Tomatoes and an

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eighty five percent audience score. It
has a seventy four percent critical rating on

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cherry Picks. That is super interesting. I was expecting cherry Picks to take

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a little bit of a dive.
See again. I went into this movie

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cold and I read that. I
was like, that tracks with what I

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know of the movie. Okay,
because the movie wears its misogyny on its

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leave. That's on perp It is
the point of the movie. It's the

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point of the movie. I could
see that rubbing certain women the wrong way,

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which which totally get why you'd be
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admire myself in this right now.
I find it very amusing, fair enough,

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but sixty five seems low for me. I thought that this movie was

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like, pretty critically lauded. It
turns out the reviews were decidedly mixed.

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I think, removing my personal enjoyment
from it, I think I sixty five

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seventy percent is about where I would
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had so much to say and it's
so interesting. I don't think it's perfect

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by any means. I have notes, but like I would give it at

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least no less than like seventy five
eighty percent. Also just for the audacity

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of making it true. That yeah, fair enough crazy that this ever got

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made. Yeah, all right,
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Psycho? Saw it in the theater, Paul, Of course you did.

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I was super curious to hear your
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in the theater. Like I said, I thought I was gonna get something

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just like you, and I turned
into something else. It was something different

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from what I was expecting. And
I remember really enjoying it, but not

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loving the ending. And now this
time that I know how it ends,

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I enjoyed it. I think a
lot more and the comedy lands a lot

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more when you know that, like
it's essentially all in his head at the

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end of the movie, right,
None of none of the violence is actually

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real, no matter how much were
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which does take some of the teeth
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when did you first see this film? And I know the answer, but

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I'm gonna ask you anyway. Shockingly, I hadn't seen this. I remember

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it coming out, I remember it
being a thing, and I when I

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watched it when it won, I
was like, all right, gurd your

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lines. You have to watch this. It's fine. Like and I didn't

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do the thing I usually do of
reading of reading the plot synopsis on a

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horror movie. Yeah, because I
was like, well, this is not

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a horror movie. And you had
kind of told me it has things to

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say. It's not that horror movies
don't, but like it's not just a

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slash flick. Like, so I
was like, okay, let me try

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to like, let me try to
put on my big boy pants and be

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a brave little toaster and watch American
Psycho. And I watched like on my

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iPad, so like it wasn't too
big in the room or whatever. And

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I'm watching it and my first response
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was like, this just actually isn't
that violent. No, Like there's very

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very little gore in the movie,
which is one of the big things for

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me. Like the thing I remember
about Screams is that first when Steve gets

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disemboweled, Like that's the thing that
like, no, absolutely not, I

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don't want to see that. There's
really none of that. It's no more

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graphic than Goodfellas. Really, oh, I think Goodfellas is way more yeah.

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Yeah, like when they're beating someone
in Goodfellas, kicking that guy's hidden

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in the bar billy batts. Yeah
yeah, yeah. So like about halfway

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through the movie, I got to
that point, and then I was like,

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Okay, if it's not going to
be that violent, why A would

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be even being subjected to the amount
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coming off weird and I couldn't figure
out why I was watching it kind of

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like, I got that it was
a satire of eighties capitalism. I got

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that, but I was like waiting
for the violence to signify something else.

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Yeah, ultimately, I don't think
it does. And I think maybe because

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I was so tense and waiting for
like someone's face to explode unexpectedly on the

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screen. I think I told you
this before, Like there were moments that

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I know are funny that I wrote
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I did not laugh at because I
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laugh because I was so tense and
I didn't know what was going to happen.

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Yeah, there's one definite horror sequence
in it. Yeah, that sequence

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was was you know, scary as
expected, But other than that, it's

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very like it almost goes from like
satire to action movie. Well, it's

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the only time you see a murder
from the perspective of the victim. I

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mean not to say there aren't not
to say there aren't victims and the other

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murders, but like the camera pulls
back before they can happen. Almost.

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It's it's a really interesting trick.
I will say. Seeing it in the

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theater, even not knowing what was
gonna happen, I think made a difference.

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Okay, because I remember seeing it
in a packed house. Probably half

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the audience had read the book,
sure, and so they were laughing.

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So even if I wasn't in on
it, like I was like, well,

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if everyone else is laughing at the
Huey lewis nonsense, it's funny.

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It's it's objectively funny. Yeah,
So I think this reward's viewing with other

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people also, sure, because the
movie does keep you at a distance.

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The character Patrick Bateman is such a
he's an alien, such an odd character,

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and so you don't really feel anything
when you're watching him except wow,

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what a good performance. Yeah.
At the end of the movie, I

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unfortunately left the movie confused, So
like you said, like full spoilers,

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it's all in his head. It
doesn't actually happen, but they reveal that

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in the last thirty seconds of the
movie. Last minute of the movie is

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when that happens. It's just not
a movie for me. So I think

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the first time I saw it,
I was really like disappointed because I thought

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the idea was is that this guy
can't be punished no matter what he does,

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because of who he is. And
so I thought it was like extra

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level satire of like talk about failing
up, Like this is someone who murders

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forty people and everyone's like, oh
you and literally no one believes him and

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no one will investigate further and because
he's you know, a pillar of the

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community or whatever. And so I
thought the movie was going in a very

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different way, darker, more satirical
level than it actually does. Yeah,

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and it like kind of veers off
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Okay, that's interesting too, but
I think My Thing was better.

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Yeah. And again it's based on
a novel, so there's very little the

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film could do right, but yeah, I think My Thing is better.

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being like, huh. At the end

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of the movie, as opposed to
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so I I because of me watching
this movie, I'm doing my best

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to separate, like objectively, to
be like, what is actually the movie's

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fault? So like if you got
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I suspect it's not the movie's fault
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suspect it's me like being a buzz
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didn't get it to the last thirty
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I didn't really get it at the
last thirty seconds. I got what wait?

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What huh? Why did I sit
through this? All? Right?

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Erica? The tagline for American Psycho
was killer looks. No, No,

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I don't get that. It's hip
to be square was right there right there.

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Maybe Huey Lewis wouldn't allow it.
Huey Lewis was like, no,

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I've had enough. I'm beloved.
Huey Lewis. Yeah, the soundtrack of

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Americana this movie is terrible. You
know. They went to Rick Astley first

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and he was like, oh yo, hell no. Can't you just picture

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Patrick Bateman being like, what if
we got Rick rolled? Never going to

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give you up. It's a song
about perseverance. A lot of people think

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this singer is African American, but
in fact he's just white with a cool

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voice. I think he's Scottish or
something. Those are our best. Patrick

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Bateman Christian Bale's American accents will always
always make me giggle. He's good,

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he's not bad at it, but
it's always like an alien talking. It's

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never a full human being talking.
He's incapable of making a natural choice,

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which is he's very interesting to watch. He's never boring. Oh my god,

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No, I really like him in
this. I think it's such a

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great performance. I think he makes
the movie work. I didn't love this

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movie, but I did. I
was concerned. I was just going to

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be like, I can't believe you
people maybe watch this, which is fuck

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you, fuck you, fuck you, You're not cool, fuck you too

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in individually emailing all of our patriots
and being like how dare you? And

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that is not where I am.
I am in a space of like,

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okay, this, I mean,
I knew it had real artistic merit.

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I didn't know that going in,
but like I was like, oh,

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this was not as traumatic as I
expected it to be. It wasn't so

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traumatic traumatic. Also, again,
you know this because of the month we're

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in. Directed by a woman,
co written by like two women, one

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of whom appears in the film.
She's great and she's really fucking good.

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Yeah. So based on a novel
by Brett ellisi'son famous homosexual. Yeah so

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there's a lot. There's a lot
happening here. Yeahs at cooking in this

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too? Absolutely? All right?
Shall I read the iTunes synopsis? Sure?

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Okay. Patrick Bateman is a handsome, well educated executive who works days

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on Wall Street. His nights are
spent in ways we cannot begin to fathom.

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A twenty six year old living his
own American dream as a serial rapist

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and killer preying upon the young and
trendy in nineteen eighties Manhattan. Okay,

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first of all, he's twenty seven. He says it like three times in

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the movie. He's not twenty six. Yeah. Also, look, I'm

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not out here trying to make excuses
for Patrick Bateman, but I don't think

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he rapes anyone. I think there's
one kind of implied which one like after

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the first three semi's like we're not
done yet, and then they just cut

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to afterwards and the women are very
up. Oh I mean, look,

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none of that's good. Yeah,
I'm with you on that. But okay,

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really, why am I out here? Why am I like you?

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Guys? He is misunderstood Erica Patrick
Bateman's number one defender. You wrote a

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letter to the judge, like all
those people that wrote the letters to the

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judge for like a light sentencing on
Patrick Bateman. Did you Yeah, you're

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a character witness. I can't believe. I was like, I picked up

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on that. I was like,
excuse me, I don't think he serially

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raped anyone tortured? Then? Oh? Absolutely yes, but let's just be

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careful with our words. Yeah,
words matter everyone. Also, he's twenty

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seven actual synopsis for American Psycho.
Oh sure, it's all fun and games

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until Baron Trump decides to make this
his life story. That's coming. Y'all

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think about who that person is and
the environment he is growing up in.

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Uh huh. We need a wellness
check on Baron. Do you keep it?

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Do you keep one eye on him? I would say, Eric,

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but he's too stupid to pull any
of this off. It's it's it's barn

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watch it. Watch out for Baron. Everyone be aware, be aware,

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all right, So, uh,
we are going to take short break.

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We'll be right back to take you
through American Psycho. After a few messages,

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including one from one of our old
friends from our friends Kimberly and Katie

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at date with Dateline that's right now, so we talked about doing a little

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ad swap with with Kimberly and Katy, and I said, hey, we're

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having an American Psycho episode coming up, and you two seemed like you would

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be experts. Uh huh they recapt
Dateline for a living Okay, Yeah,

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so they wrote back and they gave
some thoughts on American Psycho. Oh I

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love this first one because I because
I'm with you, Katie is Patrick Bateman

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hut no come, no comment,
Look he is. It's fucking hot,

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and the movie invites you to stare. Yeah, I will say. What

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is one of the very interesting things
about this movie, and that I have

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to credit Christian Belle with is he
is. The form is incredible. The

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personality is so off putting. I
know that you literally could not find this

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person attractive for longer than four seconds
after he opens his mouth. Pretty much

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only the scenes when he's in the
shower yeah, and you're like, sh

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don't talk, baby, just let
me watch the water run over your back.

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Katie also said that this is how
she learned what a corporate asshole shirt

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was. I see that comment.
Yes, I feel I feel like they

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use these shirts in Office Space.
Oh my god. Yeah, the boss

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in Office Space is basically an extra
in this movie. Yeah, he's the

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TJ. Max version of Justin the
Rowe's character in this movie. She also

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says card stock was never the same
again, isn't that true? Oh my

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god, this movie. All the
scenes where they look at each other,

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those business cards are perfection, no
notes, Yes, absolutely so. We

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has downloaded anpisode of Date with Dateline
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a very bougie restaurant in nineteen eighty
seven. The food on people's plates are

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artfully arranged and shot in a way
that conjures images of blood and gore alongside

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the beauty of the food. So
there's like dripping raspberry sauce on the plate

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before they put like a rare piece
of meat on top of it. This

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was my first clue that I was
like, what's going on? Because it

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starts and you think it's blood,
right, you know what the movie is

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like the red drop drops of red
liquid, right, and then they starts

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to become a stream, and I
was like, that's not blood. No,

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And it's like you can tell top
Bloo doesn't have the viscosity of blood

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exactly, and it's too bright red. It doesn't look like blood. And

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I'm like, was this just what
movie blood looked like in two thousand?

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No? No, No, it's
it's what raspberry pure looks like. Raspberry

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coolie. Hmmm, real quick,
I just want to start, like the

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movie has a runner in it where
all the food they eat and these super

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high end restaurants are insane, and
so in this restaurant, the waiter is

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telling, like some of the patrons
the specials for that night, and the

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specials are squid ravioli in a lemon
grass broth with goat cheese profederals. I'm

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not gonna lie, Paul. I
would eat that. That's the one.

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I was all of that sounds fine. Goat cheese, hell yeah, lemon

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grass broth like kalamari ravioli, okay, is a little left of center,

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but I eat that right, I'll
try it. Then we get to swordfish

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meat loaf with an onion marmalade.
I'm not so sure about that one.

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That one, that one, I
have questions, And then this one,

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which is so disgusting, and a
rare roasted partridge breast in a raspberry koolie

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with a sorel timble. I don't
know what that is. All I know

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is you're feeding you rawbird. Yeah, And I don't think you're supposed to

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eat rawbird. That's like the one
thing we're not supposed to eat raw dog.

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It's fucking poultry. You can raw
dog anything else you want, but

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cook your poultry. Yeah, you
can raw dog meat. You can raw

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dog fish, you cannot raw dog
poultry. So we see our quote unquote

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protagonist Patrick Bateman played by Christian Bale, He is having a five hundred and

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seventy dollars dinner with three of his
douchiest finance bro colleagues. Did you do

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the math? I did not.
Five hundred and seventy dollars in nineteen eighty

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seven is roughly fifteen hundred dollars today, So they are each spending fifth or

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maybe all together it was fifteen hundred. I don't know either way. Crazy,

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too much money, too much money
to eat raw fish, raw bird,

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rather raw pigeon, for Christ's sake, raw squab. So the three

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douchebros are Timothy Brice, played by
Justin Thireau, in a performance that is

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so goddamn good. I don't know
how this didn't catapult him to fame.

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I did miss about five minutes of
the film wondering why Justin Throw is wearing

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ice blue contacts because he can,
because it's perfect it looks so maybe it's

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only because he's just In Throw and
I know what he looks like now.

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But also his hair, his hair
is dyed darker. Yeah, it really

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is. I think he's supposed to
look like a vampire. He looks like

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he looks like it, like a
black Irish person gone through like some kind

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of photo filter. We have David
van Patten played by Bill Sage and Craig

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McDermott played by Josh Lucas. So
the men are unimpressed with this quote unquote

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chicks restaurant they're at, with all
this fancy food. They're like, they're

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so bored. Right, They see
a more successful colleague of theirs named Paul

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Allen across the restaurant, and Craig
the Josh Lucas character derisively says that he

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only gets all the good accounts because
he's a Jew. And then Patrick calmly

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asks him to cool it with the
anti semitic remarks. It's virtue signaling,

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right, Like he knows exactly what
he's supposed to say to seem like a

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normal person and like a quote unquote
good person. So he's like, cool

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it with the anti semitic remarks,
and the other guys are like, and

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Timothy the Justin Threaux character, remarks
that Patrick is the voice of reason at

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their table. Good to know,
Oh, dear Yeah, oh no,

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oh no, no, no,
we're in trouble. So we cut later

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to that same group. They're in
a nightclub. So did you notice the

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person manning the door of this nightclub. It's a drag queen dressed in like

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seventeenth century pirate garb. Yeah.
I was trying to figure out if the

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people performing in the club were also
drag queens. You don't get a good

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look at them, so I couldn't
tell. Yeah, there were three women

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on stage dressed as like the Charlie's
Angel, yeah, and doing Charlie's Angel

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poses. You know, it didn't
even occur to me they might be,

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so I didn't. I just assumed
sister women. But like, maybe this

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is nineteen eighty seven. How evolved
was the club scene in the eighties at

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these fucking finance douche bros. Yeah, going to a night club where the

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door is manned by a drag queen
and there's like a lot of queer codd

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shit happening inside, Yeah, that's
super fascinating. It felt it was funny

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because it felt at odds, and
I spent some time thinking about it because

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I was like, why are they
in this club? Why? Why this

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club, but also like they go
to other clubs later in the movie and

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they're all kinds of they're all like
that, Like that whole androgynist thing is

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happening in culture right, and it's
picked up in its mainstream and it's super

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super interesting because I feel like now
finance douchebros Are not at the same Yeah,

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maybe I'm wrong, maybe it's a
huge general but I feel like they

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wouldn't be comfortable in that space,
whereas these guys are just like, well,

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this is this is the cool thing
to do, so we're gonna do

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it. Also, that nightclub looked
cool as hell. It did like really

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fun, that New Water playing.
I used to think that the day would

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never Yeah, I'm not mad at
the music, I'm not mad at the

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scenery. I'm not mad at the
bouncers. I'm in for all of this.

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I did have an idea, like
when I was first starting the movie

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and I was like, I'm afraid
I'm gonna hate this. I know Eric

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is gonna like it. What are
they going to say? When she asked

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me what I think, and my
plan was just be like, I love

404
00:27:30.279 --> 00:27:34.839
the soundtrack. You're not wrong.
The soundtrack is amazing. It's so good.

405
00:27:36.160 --> 00:27:38.039
It's so good. So Patrick goes
up to the bar and he tries

406
00:27:38.079 --> 00:27:41.880
to pay for two stolies on the
rocks with drink tickets, and this like

407
00:27:42.400 --> 00:27:47.160
very harried, overworked bartender currently tells
him it's a cash bar. She's a

408
00:27:47.200 --> 00:27:49.799
little rude to him, right,
disagree. You cannot possibly be two terse

409
00:27:49.880 --> 00:27:52.319
with someone in a situation like that, if you are the bartender. That's

410
00:27:52.319 --> 00:27:56.319
true, that's true, because she's
they should be allowed to punch every single

411
00:27:56.359 --> 00:27:59.599
person as for the drink in the
face and if you, if you and

412
00:27:59.640 --> 00:28:02.200
if you can hear them, they
get to punch you with the hand with

413
00:28:02.279 --> 00:28:06.400
rings on, like you have your
order ready, shut up and move along.

414
00:28:06.640 --> 00:28:07.920
She's like, no, it's a
cash bar. And so she turns

415
00:28:07.920 --> 00:28:11.960
around to make the drinks. And
as she turns around, he looks at

416
00:28:11.960 --> 00:28:15.240
his reflection in the mirror over the
bar and he says, this is a

417
00:28:15.279 --> 00:28:18.759
direct quote from the movie You're a
fucking ugly bitch. I want to stab

418
00:28:18.799 --> 00:28:22.160
you to death and play around with
your blood. And then she turns around

419
00:28:22.240 --> 00:28:25.920
and hands him his drinks without comments, so clearly she didn't hear what he

420
00:28:26.000 --> 00:28:29.119
said. I think there's all these
moments in the movie where like, if

421
00:28:29.160 --> 00:28:30.200
you don't know what's happening, you're
like, well, the club is loud,

422
00:28:30.240 --> 00:28:33.359
that's why she didn't hear him.
But in fact it's because he's he's

423
00:28:33.400 --> 00:28:37.519
looking at it at his own reflection. Yeah, and it's what he wants

424
00:28:37.599 --> 00:28:41.319
to be saying, but he doesn't
actually say anything. We cut to Patrick's

425
00:28:41.359 --> 00:28:45.440
pristine, icy black and white apartment
in a well appointed building on the Upper

426
00:28:45.480 --> 00:28:48.440
West Side. Over a spare piano
score. We see him get out of

427
00:28:48.440 --> 00:28:52.640
bed wearing only his underwear. Look, the Marvel movies have given us a

428
00:28:52.680 --> 00:28:57.799
picture of what a man's body,
perfect body looked like, right HGH on

429
00:28:57.839 --> 00:29:02.000
the Marvel movies, I don't leave
a single ounce of HGH was used on

430
00:29:02.119 --> 00:29:03.400
Christian Bale here. I think he
did this to his body. I think

431
00:29:03.440 --> 00:29:07.640
he did a thousand crunches a day, just like Patrick Pateman. Yeah.

432
00:29:07.680 --> 00:29:11.839
I think like because he's so lean, he looks like like an Olympic athlete,

433
00:29:11.759 --> 00:29:15.839
Like like he there just is no
fat on him whatsoever. Maybe it's

434
00:29:15.839 --> 00:29:18.359
a lot of coke, but that's
the only thing that I could say that

435
00:29:18.400 --> 00:29:23.559
would like cut him like that.
The camera as Erica writes here invites us

436
00:29:23.599 --> 00:29:26.759
to gaze at his body. Very
female, gayzy, right, super that's

437
00:29:26.759 --> 00:29:30.759
the beginning of like, oh,
this is definitely a female director, right,

438
00:29:30.839 --> 00:29:34.160
because it's almost like it's almost lustful
in the way because it's not just

439
00:29:34.240 --> 00:29:38.799
him like walking around his apartment in
his underwear. It's him like doing calisthetics,

440
00:29:40.039 --> 00:29:42.559
yeah, in these very posing ways, which makes sense for the character

441
00:29:42.640 --> 00:29:45.720
too, because it's like he's always
performing. But then it's like him in

442
00:29:45.759 --> 00:29:51.319
this shower and it's like literally like
water rippling down his body, and I'm

443
00:29:51.319 --> 00:29:53.480
like, and so there there is
a little bit of like the audience is

444
00:29:53.519 --> 00:29:56.200
like brought in a little bit,
yeah, Like, but isn't it pretty?

445
00:29:56.440 --> 00:30:02.200
Yeah? So pretty. We watch
which is very complicated morning exercise and

446
00:30:02.240 --> 00:30:06.359
skincare routine, and he tells us
in voiceover that he's twenty seven, not

447
00:30:06.400 --> 00:30:08.880
twenty six. iTunes person, come
on, get your shit together, twenty

448
00:30:08.960 --> 00:30:12.680
seven, goddamn it, and he
believes in taking care of himself. He

449
00:30:12.680 --> 00:30:15.880
can do up to one thousand crunches
every morning, and we watch him carefully

450
00:30:15.960 --> 00:30:21.200
put on an herb mint facial mask
and slowly peel it off, almost as

451
00:30:21.200 --> 00:30:25.240
if he's shedding his skin while he
tells us there is an idea of Patrick

452
00:30:25.279 --> 00:30:29.640
Bateman, some kind of abstraction,
but there is no real me, only

453
00:30:29.680 --> 00:30:33.000
an entity, something illusory. And
though I can hide my cold gaze and

454
00:30:33.119 --> 00:30:37.079
you can shake my hand and feel
flesh gripping yours, and maybe you can

455
00:30:37.119 --> 00:30:45.119
even sense our lifestyles are probably comparable, I am simply not there. Okay,

456
00:30:45.200 --> 00:30:48.559
okay, So the movie takes a
lot of like literary like my guess

457
00:30:48.599 --> 00:30:52.039
again, I didn't read this book, but I'm guessing that was lifted directly

458
00:30:52.079 --> 00:30:55.799
out of it. Have you ever
read any bread? Ellisson? He just

459
00:30:55.799 --> 00:30:59.799
seems like such an asshole. I've
never been interested. Oh I read less

460
00:30:59.799 --> 00:31:04.599
than zero. And what's funny is
that book is so much darker than the

461
00:31:04.680 --> 00:31:08.519
movie. So I can only imagine
if this movie is where it is,

462
00:31:08.599 --> 00:31:14.079
and the fucking book must be.
Yeah, so dark, because it's like

463
00:31:14.119 --> 00:31:15.319
Hollywood's like, all right, but
let's sand some of these areas. Yeah,

464
00:31:15.359 --> 00:31:19.200
this is a lot. Yeah.
So after Patrick finishes peeling off his

465
00:31:19.319 --> 00:31:23.359
skin and telling us that he's simply
not there, can I tell you the

466
00:31:23.640 --> 00:31:26.720
night I watched this movie this week, I was like, when was the

467
00:31:26.759 --> 00:31:30.680
last time ID I literally did like
two facial masks because I was like,

468
00:31:30.720 --> 00:31:33.119
this guy is not going to be
better at skincare than me. No,

469
00:31:33.119 --> 00:31:36.400
no, I refuse, I refuse. I'm putting the squalene on, I'm

470
00:31:36.400 --> 00:31:40.119
moisturizing, I'm exfoliating, I'm doing
one of those frozen masks to keep the

471
00:31:40.160 --> 00:31:44.720
puffiness down. His morning routine is
so much more intense than anything I've ever

472
00:31:44.720 --> 00:31:47.920
done in my own life. Every
like two years or so, I'll be

473
00:31:47.960 --> 00:31:51.960
like, I'm going to invest in
my skincare routine and it lasts for at

474
00:31:52.000 --> 00:31:56.119
the most five days. He puts
all like four different types of cleansers in

475
00:31:56.160 --> 00:31:57.680
his shower, and I'm like,
okay, it's a bar of soap for

476
00:31:57.759 --> 00:32:00.319
me. That's the best we're gonna
get. I'm also I'm a sweaty bastard,

477
00:32:00.480 --> 00:32:02.920
so all of like all of the
lotions and stuff. I'm like,

478
00:32:04.039 --> 00:32:06.319
I know, but so as Patrick, as we're gonna find out as we're

479
00:32:06.319 --> 00:32:10.599
watching the movie, Oh boy,
Patrick Bateman Sweaty Bastard smash cut to a

480
00:32:10.640 --> 00:32:15.480
shot of a New York City skyscraper
underscored to walking on Sunshine by Katrina and

481
00:32:15.519 --> 00:32:20.279
the Waves. So it goes from
like I am simply not there too,

482
00:32:22.000 --> 00:32:28.559
like the happiest song ever recorded in
pop music. We see Patrick walking into

483
00:32:28.599 --> 00:32:31.559
his office. He's wearing a walkman. It's so funny to see someone spending

484
00:32:31.599 --> 00:32:37.200
that amount of money and then very
coolly and seriously having a walkman. Yeah.

485
00:32:37.240 --> 00:32:40.480
He banters a little with his assistant, Jean, played by Chloe seven

486
00:32:40.559 --> 00:32:44.640
yee. Jeane clearly has a crush
on him. It's hilarious that they're making

487
00:32:44.720 --> 00:32:49.599
Chloe seven ye play like a mousey
girl, like like famed New York girl

488
00:32:50.480 --> 00:32:52.720
fashion stick Chloe seven years. But
she does it. She's she's good.

489
00:32:52.799 --> 00:32:57.359
Yeah, yeah, she's good.
As Jean is about to leave his office,

490
00:32:57.599 --> 00:32:59.960
she tells him he looks nice,
and he tells her to stop wearing

491
00:33:00.119 --> 00:33:02.720
pantsuits because you're prettier than that,
and to start wearing skirts and high heels

492
00:33:02.720 --> 00:33:08.519
in the office. Whoof damn,
the movie pulls not a single punch like

493
00:33:09.200 --> 00:33:13.880
something I'm just gonna read a note
for you that I have on this movie.

494
00:33:14.039 --> 00:33:16.160
Jesus, this is like sitting in
a car with twenty seven people that

495
00:33:16.240 --> 00:33:21.799
you hate for an hour and forty
minutes, and it truly is the point.

496
00:33:21.960 --> 00:33:23.400
Like I'm not blaming the movie for
that that is the sound. So

497
00:33:23.480 --> 00:33:27.720
it's like bringing the massogy up over
and over and over, and to the

498
00:33:27.759 --> 00:33:30.920
movie's credit, unlike the Birdcage,
I do think they managed to go so

499
00:33:31.160 --> 00:33:36.079
hard as to make it a little
bit funny, Like they they're like,

500
00:33:36.119 --> 00:33:38.240
no, we're going to go far
enough that you have to laugh at this.

501
00:33:38.920 --> 00:33:42.319
So after Jean leaves the office,
he just puts his feet up,

502
00:33:42.359 --> 00:33:45.680
turns on the TV in his office
and watches a game show. No,

503
00:33:45.119 --> 00:33:49.599
twenty seven year old or twenty six
year old frankly should have an office.

504
00:33:50.160 --> 00:33:53.200
Oh, absolutely hard roll absolutely not
the first. The thing I didn't notice

505
00:33:53.240 --> 00:33:57.440
the first time I saw the movie
that I noticed this time is how he

506
00:33:57.559 --> 00:34:00.200
literally does not work. I don't
think he he ever in his whole life,

507
00:34:00.240 --> 00:34:04.319
has done a moment of work.
And so later in the movie when

508
00:34:04.519 --> 00:34:07.920
like when he has to like pretend
to be working, like someone comes into

509
00:34:07.960 --> 00:34:10.559
his office and he's on the phone
pretending it's a work call. All he's

510
00:34:10.559 --> 00:34:15.440
doing is giving fashion advice to like
the fake person on the phone. I'm

511
00:34:15.440 --> 00:34:16.440
like, oh my god, you
don't even know how to fake it.

512
00:34:16.800 --> 00:34:22.519
It can't even be like bye bye
Byelo. So high like he can't even

513
00:34:22.559 --> 00:34:25.320
do that. So we cut to
Patrick and his girlfriend slash sort of almost

514
00:34:25.320 --> 00:34:30.239
fiance, Evelyn Williams played by Reese
Witherspoon. Does she have her spoon?

515
00:34:30.960 --> 00:34:38.480
Oh no, I find this so
funny. It's Reese with her spoon Gardy.

516
00:34:38.880 --> 00:34:42.119
By the way, that joke is
for our friend Aaron, who listens

517
00:34:42.239 --> 00:34:50.000
she's dying. But whither shall my
spoon go? It has reesed away.

518
00:34:50.239 --> 00:34:53.840
Yes, So they're on their way
to dinner and she's basically crunching the numbers

519
00:34:53.840 --> 00:34:58.239
on what a wedding would cost and
like how great their wedding, their future

520
00:34:58.239 --> 00:35:00.000
wedding would be. She doesn't even
look at him. He doesn't even look

521
00:35:00.039 --> 00:35:04.159
at her. It's actually pretty clear
he hates her. Yeah, but she's

522
00:35:04.199 --> 00:35:07.760
like, but we're perfect. I'm
rich and pretty and you're rich and pretty,

523
00:35:07.760 --> 00:35:10.320
and rich and pretty people need to
get married. It's Elwood's in Warner.

524
00:35:10.480 --> 00:35:14.599
Yeah, this is how this works, the dark timeline of Hell,

525
00:35:14.719 --> 00:35:20.480
the dark timelin of Ellwoods and Warner. So Patrick can barely contain his disdain

526
00:35:20.519 --> 00:35:22.719
for her. He's like, I
can't take time off of work to get

527
00:35:22.760 --> 00:35:24.320
married, which, now that we
know he doesn't literally doesn't know how to

528
00:35:24.320 --> 00:35:28.199
work is very funny, and she's
like, but why don't you just quit

529
00:35:28.239 --> 00:35:30.760
your job? You hate it anyway, and you don't even need to work,

530
00:35:30.800 --> 00:35:35.320
so why are you working? And
he says the quiet part out loud,

531
00:35:35.320 --> 00:35:37.880
which is crazy to me. He
goes, because I want to fit

532
00:35:38.119 --> 00:35:42.559
in. Who's just says shit like
that? Patrick Bateman, Who's like,

533
00:35:42.840 --> 00:35:47.800
I'm dying without love? What why
would you say that out loud? My

534
00:35:47.920 --> 00:35:52.000
soul is shriveling. Oh no,
I've gone too far. They arrive at

535
00:35:52.039 --> 00:35:57.360
the super Chic restaurant and are seated
at the table with Evelyn's quote unquote artist

536
00:35:57.440 --> 00:36:00.039
cousin and her boyfriend, and they
are Erica here she is correct. They

537
00:36:00.039 --> 00:36:04.880
are styled like Robert Smith from The
Cure. Yes, he looks exactly like

538
00:36:05.000 --> 00:36:09.920
Robert Smith. It's hilarious. He
looks like Bizarro, Edward Scissorhands and also

539
00:36:10.000 --> 00:36:15.000
Timothy who that's that's justin throw and
Patrick tells us he is clearly having an

540
00:36:15.000 --> 00:36:19.239
affair with Evelyn, but Patrick doesn't
mind that Evelyn is cheating on him,

541
00:36:19.440 --> 00:36:22.760
since he's cheating on her with her
best friend, Courtney played by Samantha Mathis,

542
00:36:22.880 --> 00:36:28.320
who's engaged to Lewis Carruthers played by
Matt Ross, who Patrick calls the

543
00:36:28.360 --> 00:36:32.719
biggest dufist in the business. Okay, Matt Ross has entrade the scene.

544
00:36:34.039 --> 00:36:37.920
This character is fantastic, This character
is I want to I want to say

545
00:36:37.920 --> 00:36:42.960
something right up front. I am
offended by nothing. What is happening?

546
00:36:44.320 --> 00:36:46.639
Did you pick up on? Yeah? You know what. It took me

547
00:36:46.679 --> 00:36:51.400
a minute. Oh the first time
I saw the movie. So Lewis Caruthers

548
00:36:51.440 --> 00:36:55.199
is coded as gay. He is
quoted as gay nerd crossed with mister Beams.

549
00:36:55.320 --> 00:36:58.880
He wears a bow tie. No
one else in the movie wears a

550
00:36:58.880 --> 00:37:01.039
bow tie at him like a pinstriped
suit. And then this like or a

551
00:37:01.039 --> 00:37:07.119
peewee Herman type, like this insane
bowl haircut that's dyed this unnatural orange and

552
00:37:07.159 --> 00:37:12.320
then curled down over like like no
gay man in the history of time has

553
00:37:12.320 --> 00:37:15.119
ever voluntarily gotten this haircut. Ever, maybe that's how he's hiding it.

554
00:37:15.199 --> 00:37:17.639
But he's like, he's like,
no one will believe me, no one

555
00:37:19.079 --> 00:37:22.039
for it's not it's not enough that
I'm engaged to a gorgeous woman. I

556
00:37:22.079 --> 00:37:25.159
have to also look like this.
No gay man will want to look at

557
00:37:25.159 --> 00:37:28.880
the top of this head as they
as I blow them, so that'll make

558
00:37:28.880 --> 00:37:35.280
sure that what they okay. And
so he's he's doing a lot, which

559
00:37:35.320 --> 00:37:37.960
is which is fine truly again,
because everyone is everyone is if no one

560
00:37:38.079 --> 00:37:42.760
is playing it like cool and no
one is playing it like a normal human

561
00:37:42.800 --> 00:37:45.880
being. Like all of Patrick's friends
are at an eleven the entire ty,

562
00:37:46.199 --> 00:37:51.239
so is Reese, Like everyone's at
eleven hundred percent. So like I again,

563
00:37:51.519 --> 00:37:57.800
not offended. I'm just trying to
figure out what they thought they were

564
00:37:57.840 --> 00:38:08.119
doing because it's so much Oh my
god. All right, So Courtney,

565
00:38:08.400 --> 00:38:14.440
that is Lewis's girlfriend and the woman
that Patrick is sleeping with behind Evelyn's back.

566
00:38:15.239 --> 00:38:20.159
Courtney starts a conversation about the commercialization
of soho and then Timothy immediately dives

567
00:38:20.199 --> 00:38:22.440
in with who cares, and then
starts to espouse super wrong information about the

568
00:38:22.480 --> 00:38:25.760
Sri Lankan Civil War. Super wrong. And by the way, I didn't

569
00:38:25.760 --> 00:38:28.480
know that off the top of my
head. I had to google it to

570
00:38:28.519 --> 00:38:30.280
make sure. But I'm like,
this seems wrong, you know what.

571
00:38:30.320 --> 00:38:32.800
I'm impressed because I didn't even it
didn't even occur to me that it was

572
00:38:32.840 --> 00:38:37.119
wrong. I was too busy thinking
about that timing collateral when Tom Cruise was

573
00:38:37.119 --> 00:38:39.119
like, well, what about Rwanda. I'm find being a murderer because Rwanda

574
00:38:39.199 --> 00:38:42.920
is happening, Monda is happening.
That's exactly what this guy just did.

575
00:38:43.039 --> 00:38:45.239
Yeah, He's like, who cares. There's like Sri Lanka and I'm like,

576
00:38:45.519 --> 00:38:50.320
who I hate when people do that. Not to be out virtue signaled

577
00:38:50.320 --> 00:38:54.280
because he wants to fit in ha
ha. Patrick calmly and with great control,

578
00:38:54.400 --> 00:38:57.880
goes through all the social ills of
the day that they should all be

579
00:38:57.880 --> 00:39:01.079
paying attention to, and he lists
everything aparthid to nuclear warfare, women's rights

580
00:39:01.079 --> 00:39:06.559
and promoting general social concern and less
materialism in young people. He says a

581
00:39:06.599 --> 00:39:09.280
lot without saying anything at all excellently. He really should have been a politician.

582
00:39:09.360 --> 00:39:13.920
Yeah, and Lewis looks at him
with admiration and says, how thought

583
00:39:13.960 --> 00:39:19.760
provoking Matt Ross is, Almost like
how thought provoking girl like Matt Ross is

584
00:39:19.800 --> 00:39:22.320
only with Courtney because he already knows
that that Patrick is fucking Courtney. And

585
00:39:22.400 --> 00:39:24.639
he's like it's like, oh,
this is how I this is I can

586
00:39:24.679 --> 00:39:29.599
at least be Eskimo Brothers. Yeah. So after dinner we see Patrick walking

587
00:39:29.599 --> 00:39:32.840
alone at night. He has this
sight set on a random woman walking nearby,

588
00:39:32.960 --> 00:39:37.239
so he's just like walking on the
Upper east Side somewhere. He approaches

589
00:39:37.280 --> 00:39:39.760
her at a crosswalk. He says
hello. This is the first person we'll

590
00:39:39.760 --> 00:39:44.039
see in the movie. It's acting
like a normal person. She's immediately on

591
00:39:44.119 --> 00:39:46.800
guard and she's like hi back to
him, because women have been told we

592
00:39:46.840 --> 00:39:51.800
have to be polite to everyone.
But she's very clearly like no. They

593
00:39:51.840 --> 00:39:54.039
continue to walk along the same street. That's all we see. Yep.

594
00:39:54.239 --> 00:39:59.760
Cut to the next morning. Patrick
is at his dry cleaners and he is

595
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:04.440
screaming at them that they have to
remove the blood red stains from his sheets.

596
00:40:04.639 --> 00:40:07.599
When an acquaintance walks in and says
hello, Patrick tries to like brush

597
00:40:07.599 --> 00:40:10.480
her off. He doesn't want to
deal with her, and the acquaintance asks

598
00:40:10.639 --> 00:40:15.599
what caused the stains on your sheets? Why are sheets red? And he

599
00:40:15.639 --> 00:40:20.360
goes cranberry juice and walks out of
the store. This is an interesting thing

600
00:40:20.519 --> 00:40:23.920
that it took me a while to
pick up. All the service not all,

601
00:40:23.960 --> 00:40:27.920
but most of the service people in
the film are people of color.

602
00:40:28.360 --> 00:40:30.960
Are all the service people, And
of course all our protagonists are white.

603
00:40:31.239 --> 00:40:37.719
And then there's one major African American
role in the movie which is coming up,

604
00:40:37.760 --> 00:40:39.679
and I think it's extremely like pointed. I think they're doing that on

605
00:40:39.719 --> 00:40:43.840
purpose. Yeah, I think we
can give this movie that credit. Uh

606
00:40:43.880 --> 00:40:46.880
huh. Yeah. A few days
later, Patrick asks Courtney to go to

607
00:40:46.880 --> 00:40:51.719
dinner with him. Courtney is like
high on pills. She's very into like

608
00:40:51.960 --> 00:40:55.159
various mind altering medications. Yeah,
and the first scene she's on xanax and

609
00:40:55.199 --> 00:40:59.880
we're going to find out later in
the scene she's on lithium. He says,

610
00:41:00.039 --> 00:41:01.480
let's go out to dinner. Lewis
is out of town, and she

611
00:41:01.599 --> 00:41:06.760
declined until Patrick tells her that he'll
take her to Dorcia, the hottest restaurant

612
00:41:06.800 --> 00:41:08.480
in town, and she's like,
ooh, Dorsia, okay fine. Patrick

613
00:41:08.480 --> 00:41:12.480
calls the restaurant try to get a
table for that night, and he's quite

614
00:41:12.559 --> 00:41:15.079
literally laughed at by the matre Day
just laughed off the phone. I love

615
00:41:15.119 --> 00:41:19.840
that by the time Patrick picks Courtney
up for dinner, she's so out of

616
00:41:19.880 --> 00:41:22.559
her mind on lithium that she's barely
conscious. She doesn't even notice when he

617
00:41:22.599 --> 00:41:25.639
takes her to a completely different restaurant
and just tells her that it's Dorcia.

618
00:41:25.760 --> 00:41:29.199
He could have taken her to Burger
King, she would not have noticed.

619
00:41:29.280 --> 00:41:35.400
He also orders food for her peanut
butter soup. Oh, keep going,

620
00:41:35.440 --> 00:41:40.440
Paul, with smoked duck and mashed
squash. The movie just gets weirder and

621
00:41:40.559 --> 00:41:44.559
weirder and weirder with the food orders. And I'm here for all of it.

622
00:41:44.639 --> 00:41:46.559
He has a line here, He's
like New York Matinee called it a

623
00:41:46.559 --> 00:41:54.440
playful but mysterious little dish. Courtney
basically just passes out at the table and

624
00:41:54.519 --> 00:41:58.599
Patrick looks thrilled to not have to
talk with anyone else while eating his dinner.

625
00:41:58.639 --> 00:42:00.480
He doesn't realize it. Have a
woman passed out at your table does

626
00:42:00.519 --> 00:42:05.480
not help you fit in. Maybe
it does. In nineteen eighty seven Wall

627
00:42:05.480 --> 00:42:12.840
Street bro possibly the satire on fine
dining. Truly, like the menu just

628
00:42:12.880 --> 00:42:15.679
happened like a year ago, Like
so I thought of the same thing.

629
00:42:15.800 --> 00:42:19.159
It's literally it is almost the menu
this movie, like you have to be

630
00:42:19.199 --> 00:42:22.480
seen at certain restaurants, and it
actually feels very true to life. Now.

631
00:42:22.920 --> 00:42:24.880
I feel like for a while that
kind of went away and now it

632
00:42:24.960 --> 00:42:30.360
is like New York especially is just
like everyone needs to go to these five

633
00:42:30.440 --> 00:42:32.480
restaurants. These are the hot restaurants, and if you don't go to them,

634
00:42:32.639 --> 00:42:37.480
you're basically nothing. And it's like, everyone calmed the fuck down.

635
00:42:37.599 --> 00:42:39.280
Yeah, everyone needs to understand that
I don't go to restaurant unless they're within

636
00:42:39.360 --> 00:42:42.840
a ten block radis in my house. Yeah. If they don't deliver it

637
00:42:42.880 --> 00:42:45.400
to me, I'm not going.
I'm not going. It reminds me of

638
00:42:45.440 --> 00:42:49.159
that line from when Harriet met Sally, where she goes, restaurants are to

639
00:42:49.159 --> 00:42:52.440
people in the eighties what theater was
to people in the sixties. Oh yeah,

640
00:42:52.519 --> 00:42:53.760
yeah, that line. I'm like, yes, that's the whole thing

641
00:42:53.840 --> 00:42:59.000
again. The next day, they're
at the office, Lewis thanks Patrick for

642
00:42:59.039 --> 00:43:02.239
taking care of Courtney him. He's
also very impressed with Patrick's Valentino suit and

643
00:43:02.280 --> 00:43:06.880
he tries to touch the fabric to
feel how soft it is, and Patrick

644
00:43:06.920 --> 00:43:13.440
swats his hand away and he goes
the compliment was sufficient, Lewis, And

645
00:43:13.480 --> 00:43:15.880
this is where dumb dumb Erica picked
up on Lewis having a crush on It

646
00:43:15.920 --> 00:43:19.880
took this long for me to be
like got it, got it, because

647
00:43:19.920 --> 00:43:22.480
the way the character looks and behaves, I thought at first that he was

648
00:43:22.559 --> 00:43:25.800
just the awkward friend that they don't
want to talk to because he's a nerd.

649
00:43:27.079 --> 00:43:29.239
Yeah, right, and so it
took me this long to be like,

650
00:43:29.599 --> 00:43:31.840
oh, it's not nerd, it's
gay. Yeah, And they kind

651
00:43:31.840 --> 00:43:35.679
of all figured it out, except
for Erica. You have a more open

652
00:43:35.760 --> 00:43:38.960
mind. Erica. You don't dump
to conclusions except about Mickey Bunce, except

653
00:43:39.000 --> 00:43:42.280
on Mickey Bunce, in which I
was right, yeah and dropped dead Fred.

654
00:43:42.360 --> 00:43:46.800
Yeah. So Paul Allen, the
top dog at the company played by

655
00:43:47.000 --> 00:43:52.320
Jared Leto, who looks seventeen if
he is a minute when he made this

656
00:43:52.360 --> 00:43:54.159
movie, and I'm like, how
what? Never mind, moving on,

657
00:43:54.320 --> 00:43:59.480
moving on. He swaggers into the
room. He immediately calls Patrick by someone

658
00:43:59.480 --> 00:44:04.159
else's name, Marcus Halberstrom. That's
important, just keep that in mind.

659
00:44:04.199 --> 00:44:07.280
He thinks he doesn't know Patrick as
Patrick. He calls him Marcus the entire

660
00:44:07.360 --> 00:44:12.360
movie, and then he loudly tells
the room that he has the coveted Friday

661
00:44:12.480 --> 00:44:16.119
night reservation at Dorsea And he swaggers
out, and everyone's like, how the

662
00:44:16.159 --> 00:44:21.079
fuck did he get a reservation on
a Friday night? And they're so jealous

663
00:44:21.079 --> 00:44:25.280
of him. Patrick tries to shake
off these feelings of impotence that he suddenly

664
00:44:25.320 --> 00:44:30.079
has by showing off his new business
card to his colleagues. This is my

665
00:44:30.119 --> 00:44:32.320
favorite scene in the movie. It's
really funny. It's perfect. This is

666
00:44:32.320 --> 00:44:37.239
what Katie was referencing about the card
stock. So this is now. It's

667
00:44:37.280 --> 00:44:40.599
a pissing match between the four guys
and their business cards. It is so

668
00:44:40.840 --> 00:44:45.920
fucking funny. They literally all put
their their cards out on the table,

669
00:44:45.079 --> 00:44:52.519
right, and Patrick is horrified we
hear it in voiceover, to find that

670
00:44:52.639 --> 00:44:57.679
his is not even the most tasteful
card amongst his garbage friends. Oh my

671
00:44:57.800 --> 00:45:01.159
god. Right, he is sweating, He is on the verge of tears.

672
00:45:01.159 --> 00:45:06.800
We see him like physically get emotional, right, and he like very

673
00:45:06.960 --> 00:45:12.760
quietly goes, hmmm, let's see
Paul Allen's card. And everyone looks like

674
00:45:12.840 --> 00:45:15.800
hesitates, and then one of them
pulls out Paul Allen's card. He puts

675
00:45:15.800 --> 00:45:21.480
it on the table and there's a
collective odd silence in the room as they

676
00:45:21.599 --> 00:45:28.000
gaze upon its magnificence. My god, there's even a water moon. If

677
00:45:28.000 --> 00:45:30.480
you have not seen this scene.
And I get to stand if someone might

678
00:45:30.480 --> 00:45:34.360
not want to watch this movie,
it's not their cup of tea just Google

679
00:45:35.000 --> 00:45:38.519
business card scene American psycho. I
promise you you will not be disappointed.

680
00:45:38.599 --> 00:45:43.199
There's no violence in it whatsoever except
you are. You are free and clear,

681
00:45:43.440 --> 00:45:47.800
violence against card stock, violence against
taste. So they're all vice presidents.

682
00:45:47.920 --> 00:45:52.679
Yeah, they're all vice presidents.
Later that night, Patrick walks along

683
00:45:52.719 --> 00:45:58.039
a deserted alleyway near his office and
encounters an unhoused black man with a dog.

684
00:45:58.159 --> 00:46:01.280
This is the black person in the
movie Yeah by Reggie Cathay. Yeah,

685
00:46:01.320 --> 00:46:05.079
this is one of the more difficult
scenes in the movie. When the

686
00:46:05.079 --> 00:46:07.840
movie turns Yeah. He offers to
give the man money, and when the

687
00:46:07.840 --> 00:46:10.000
man gratefully accepts, he kneels down
and says, why don't you have a

688
00:46:10.079 --> 00:46:13.800
job, And then he tells the
man to get a better attitude and stop

689
00:46:13.920 --> 00:46:16.280
smelling like shit, and he calls
them pathetic, and then he pulls out

690
00:46:16.280 --> 00:46:20.599
a knife out of his briefcase and
stabs the man before beating the dog to

691
00:46:20.679 --> 00:46:25.039
death. WHOA, this was an
escalation, Yes, the movie twist.

692
00:46:25.079 --> 00:46:30.199
Okay, that was far more the
way you described It was more violent than

693
00:46:30.280 --> 00:46:32.159
you see in the movie. Like
it's in silhouette him stabbing the man.

694
00:46:32.320 --> 00:46:37.199
The camera pulls with the camera pulls
way up and you hear him like stomp,

695
00:46:37.239 --> 00:46:39.599
and you hear like a whimper,
like there's no visual to a company.

696
00:46:39.639 --> 00:46:43.960
You know what happened, but there's
no visual to a company. Yeah.

697
00:46:44.079 --> 00:46:46.760
Then Patrick stands up and calmly just
walks away. Now this is also

698
00:46:46.800 --> 00:46:51.760
the part of the movie where Paul
is thinking there's going to be like a

699
00:46:52.880 --> 00:46:55.679
for lack of a better term,
normal progression of events. And I was

700
00:46:55.719 --> 00:46:59.360
like, oh, that was a
mistake, Like you didn't clean up that

701
00:46:59.400 --> 00:47:02.760
crime scene at all. That's gonna
be the one that gets you ultimately.

702
00:47:04.360 --> 00:47:07.119
That is so not where this movie
is head. And the funny thing is

703
00:47:07.159 --> 00:47:10.800
you're watching it the whole there's every
single one of these murders has a crazy

704
00:47:10.880 --> 00:47:14.360
like well, obviously you're gonna get
caught. Yeah, like you made so

705
00:47:14.440 --> 00:47:19.320
many mistakes, never gets caught.
Yeah. We see Patrick at a spa

706
00:47:19.639 --> 00:47:22.039
because you know, after murdering a
man and his dog, you really want

707
00:47:22.039 --> 00:47:25.159
to decompress. Yeah, yeah,
you want to get the outer layer of

708
00:47:25.239 --> 00:47:30.159
skin off you as fast as you
possibly can. He's getting a massage,

709
00:47:30.239 --> 00:47:32.320
a manicure, he takes some time
in a sun bed. We get another

710
00:47:32.360 --> 00:47:36.960
gorgeous shot of Christian Bale's body.
Thank you, Mary Heron. Yeah,

711
00:47:37.400 --> 00:47:40.000
doing the Lord's work, Doing the
Lord's work, Mary Heron, and voiceover,

712
00:47:40.079 --> 00:47:45.320
he narrates, I have all the
characteristics of a human being, flesh,

713
00:47:45.360 --> 00:47:50.079
blood, skin, hair, but
not a single clear, identifiable emotion

714
00:47:50.519 --> 00:47:54.519
except for greed and disgust. Something
horrible is happening inside of me, and

715
00:47:54.599 --> 00:48:00.519
I don't know why. My nightly
bloodlust has overflowed into my days. I

716
00:48:00.559 --> 00:48:04.400
feel lethal, on the verge of
frenzy, and I think my mask of

717
00:48:04.559 --> 00:48:07.239
sanity is about to slip. If
you want to make a vampire movie,

718
00:48:07.239 --> 00:48:12.480
just make a vampire movie. He
says all that while lying in a sun

719
00:48:12.519 --> 00:48:15.639
bed, which is very funny.
Yeah. Later we see Patrick at Evelyn's

720
00:48:15.719 --> 00:48:21.360
Christmas party at her palatial apartment.
Evelyn tries to engage with him. She's

721
00:48:21.400 --> 00:48:23.960
showing off her new pot bellied pig
she's carrying around like a little chihuahua,

722
00:48:25.079 --> 00:48:29.480
but he just scowls at her and
walks away. There's a line here where

723
00:48:29.480 --> 00:48:31.159
she's like, what do you want
for Christmas? And don't say breast implants

724
00:48:31.199 --> 00:48:37.119
again? Damn? Why is she
with him? Well? She sucks too,

725
00:48:37.360 --> 00:48:43.159
She sucks. Patrick approaches Paul Allen, who's flirting with Courtney. Courtney

726
00:48:43.239 --> 00:48:46.440
is the woman who he drugged,
who's Lewis's girlfriend, but he's having an

727
00:48:46.440 --> 00:48:51.440
affair with her, and he suggests
that they have dinner sometime, and Paul,

728
00:48:51.519 --> 00:48:55.039
who still thinks Patrick's name is Marcus
Halberstrom, accepts the invitation right he

729
00:48:55.079 --> 00:48:59.519
thinks he's having dinner with Marcus.
Yeah. We cut right to Patrick and

730
00:48:59.519 --> 00:49:04.480
Paul at a nearly empty Mexican restaurant. By the time Patrick arrives, Paul's

731
00:49:04.519 --> 00:49:07.599
berating their waiter and they both rudely
bark their drink orders at them. When

732
00:49:07.599 --> 00:49:10.360
the waiter asks if they'd like to
hear the specials, Patrick says, not

733
00:49:10.440 --> 00:49:15.079
if you want to keep your spleen, So it goes without saying the waiter's

734
00:49:15.119 --> 00:49:17.760
his panic. Right. There's a
line that I love in this where Patrick's

735
00:49:17.760 --> 00:49:21.280
trying to convince, like Paul's like, why did you bring me to this

736
00:49:21.320 --> 00:49:24.760
shitty restaurant? He goes, the
mud soup and charcoal arugula are outrageous.

737
00:49:24.800 --> 00:49:31.559
Here, mud soup and charcoal arugula. It's excellent. That's such good writing.

738
00:49:31.800 --> 00:49:36.000
A while later, Paul is clearly
two sheets to the wind, and

739
00:49:36.039 --> 00:49:39.159
Patrick asks how he managed to get
the biggest account in the firm. Paul

740
00:49:39.199 --> 00:49:44.039
still won't give away the trade secrets, and Patrick mentions Evelyn's name, and

741
00:49:44.079 --> 00:49:45.880
Paul sneers that she has a great
ass, but she's going out with that

742
00:49:46.119 --> 00:49:52.239
dork Patrick Bateman because remember he thinks
Patrick is Marcus. Yeah, it's all

743
00:49:52.360 --> 00:49:55.519
very confusing. It's so confusing because
like, who do they think Patrick Bateman

744
00:49:55.679 --> 00:50:00.199
is? Right? And I understand, like how in book that could work

745
00:50:00.360 --> 00:50:04.519
because you're like, you don't it
keeps you off your guard. You're like,

746
00:50:04.599 --> 00:50:07.480
Okay, do I even trust this
narrator? Then what's happening? But

747
00:50:07.559 --> 00:50:09.880
in a movie when there's like a
it's a visual medium, Yeah, I

748
00:50:09.880 --> 00:50:13.960
don't understand. I'm like so because
it's not the first it's it's one of

749
00:50:14.000 --> 00:50:17.159
the many times this happens in the
movie where people mistake him for someone else,

750
00:50:17.159 --> 00:50:21.400
and I'm like, is the idea
that all these guys are basically interchangeable?

751
00:50:22.239 --> 00:50:25.039
Like I couldn't quite figure that out? Fair So anyway, he calls

752
00:50:25.119 --> 00:50:30.360
him a dork, right, and
Patrick just smiles at Paul and then smash

753
00:50:30.440 --> 00:50:37.039
cut to a very drunk Paul sitting
on a tarp covered chair in Patrick's apartment.

754
00:50:37.760 --> 00:50:42.239
The living room floor is also entirely
covered by newspapers Bitch, Run,

755
00:50:44.199 --> 00:50:47.920
Bitch, Go Run, Run,
Bitch Run, Bitch, Molly you in

756
00:50:49.039 --> 00:50:52.960
danger Girl. Paul keeps drinking,
he just can't stop drinking, and Patrick

757
00:50:53.039 --> 00:50:57.840
plays a Huey Lewis CD Huey Lewis
in the News. This is the iconic

758
00:50:57.840 --> 00:51:00.199
scene in the movie that everyone knows, right. He puts a raincoat on

759
00:51:00.440 --> 00:51:04.760
over his suit. He grabs an
axe that he just happens to have in

760
00:51:04.800 --> 00:51:08.199
his kitchen. He starts to wax
on about the hidden genius of Kiuey Lewis

761
00:51:08.199 --> 00:51:13.920
in the News, about how like
conformity is actually like a greater good for

762
00:51:14.000 --> 00:51:17.199
society and that's what Huey Lewis is
espousing. And in a way, Huey

763
00:51:17.239 --> 00:51:22.880
Lewis is like a subversive genius.
And I was just like, oh,

764
00:51:22.960 --> 00:51:28.360
keatoki, this is the most excited. He's so happy Patrick. He's got

765
00:51:28.360 --> 00:51:31.440
like a big creepy grin on his
face all time. He starts to dance,

766
00:51:31.559 --> 00:51:37.599
and he's like he's energetic, Like
all of the remove from before is

767
00:51:37.639 --> 00:51:39.320
gone and now he's actually coming like
Paul's like, is that a raincoat?

768
00:51:39.320 --> 00:51:45.199
He's like, it is, Paul, it's a raincoat. You're right.

769
00:51:45.320 --> 00:51:49.239
All his on Wii is just gone, and he's just like, whoa alive?

770
00:51:50.519 --> 00:51:53.559
So suddenly and yet completely predictably,
because we know where this is going,

771
00:51:53.920 --> 00:51:59.199
Patrick picks up his axe and hacks
Paul to death while screaming you won't

772
00:51:59.199 --> 00:52:01.199
be able to get it at doors. Yeah, when you're dead, motherfucker.

773
00:52:02.800 --> 00:52:06.559
So that the way they shoot it
is he he starts to swing the

774
00:52:06.599 --> 00:52:09.440
axe, his maniacal expression on his
face. You just see Jared Leto like

775
00:52:09.559 --> 00:52:14.519
turn around, and then it cuts
back to the Patrick Patrick's perspective, so

776
00:52:14.679 --> 00:52:17.880
you don't see anything any of the
murders, any of them see him swinging

777
00:52:17.880 --> 00:52:22.599
the axe down and the blood like
splatters on his face. Yeah, and

778
00:52:22.800 --> 00:52:25.480
the blood is very bright colored again, like it's it's it's theatrical, one

779
00:52:25.519 --> 00:52:30.280
hundred percent, it's one hundred percent
Giallo. I think that might be what

780
00:52:30.360 --> 00:52:32.199
the movie is going for. I
think that's that's intentional. Right, It's

781
00:52:32.199 --> 00:52:37.159
like this like over the top,
like operatic version of violence instead of realistic

782
00:52:37.199 --> 00:52:40.239
violence. Yeah, it makes sense
to me, And having seen the movie,

783
00:52:40.239 --> 00:52:43.519
now that they actually were able to
make a Broadway musical out of this.

784
00:52:43.880 --> 00:52:46.239
Oh my god, I forgot.
Yeah, I forgot there was a

785
00:52:46.239 --> 00:52:50.559
Broadway musical. I did not see
it. I guess you didn't either.

786
00:52:50.800 --> 00:52:52.519
No, I didn't run for that
long. No. I think it was

787
00:52:52.559 --> 00:52:57.199
a pretty It was pretty in and
out. Yeah. I can't imagine someone

788
00:52:57.280 --> 00:53:00.800
like unless is it like a jukebox
musical to Huey Lewis in the I believe

789
00:53:00.800 --> 00:53:04.840
there are there are both. There
are Huey Lewis and the News songs in

790
00:53:04.880 --> 00:53:07.239
it, But I think it's all
like, there's both. There's some original

791
00:53:07.239 --> 00:53:12.079
songs and some Phil Collins perhaps you
know what. Now, Now I'm really

792
00:53:12.119 --> 00:53:19.440
sad in I want everyone to know
that Erica was like caressing for computer screen

793
00:53:19.480 --> 00:53:21.840
while she did that, like like
like it like it was like it was

794
00:53:21.880 --> 00:53:23.760
a breast. I was so excited. I was like, yes, tell

795
00:53:23.800 --> 00:53:30.000
me more about this Phil Collins jukebox
musical about a serial killer in the eighties.

796
00:53:30.960 --> 00:53:35.119
Never seen her more sexually aroused by
entire life? Was it Jonathan grob

797
00:53:35.280 --> 00:53:40.800
Just tell me it was Benjamin Walker. Oh my god, Oh my god,

798
00:53:40.880 --> 00:53:46.000
that's such that so good. Okay, so obviously Paul dies alright,

799
00:53:46.000 --> 00:53:52.280
be Paul out Hey. Patrick then
stuffs Paul's corpse into a Jean Paul Gattier

800
00:53:52.440 --> 00:53:57.079
Duffel bag I love all the new
like the name drops of all the fashion

801
00:53:57.280 --> 00:54:00.320
like stuff in this movie. He
drags it out to the curb outside his

802
00:54:00.320 --> 00:54:02.920
building. He takes it into a
taxi cab and throws it in the back

803
00:54:02.960 --> 00:54:07.920
of a taxi cab. He passes
his doorman on the way and Lewis,

804
00:54:08.119 --> 00:54:12.800
who happens to be walking by.
Lewis is like, oh, I love

805
00:54:12.880 --> 00:54:16.880
your duffel? What is that?
What brand is that? Neither the doorman

806
00:54:17.159 --> 00:54:23.639
nor Lewis mentioned or even clock the
fact that he's carrying a human corpse shaped

807
00:54:23.719 --> 00:54:28.039
bag out of this building. Again, the movie is kind of the whole

808
00:54:28.079 --> 00:54:30.760
time. It is kind of telling
you, yeah, what's going on.

809
00:54:30.840 --> 00:54:34.159
But like again, I thought it
was a different story. I think I

810
00:54:34.239 --> 00:54:37.199
just thought it was making a comment
on New York, how obsessed with wealth

811
00:54:37.679 --> 00:54:42.679
they are. They see Jean Paul
Gautier and not and they don't the obvious

812
00:54:42.800 --> 00:54:47.679
corpse in the bag. Patrick uses
Paul's own keys to break into his apartment

813
00:54:47.760 --> 00:54:52.000
and nearly has a panic attack.
I wrote this line down. This was

814
00:54:52.039 --> 00:54:54.599
actually the real line in the movie
where I was like, that is very

815
00:54:54.599 --> 00:54:58.360
funny, and I can't laugh because
I don't. I just simply don't know

816
00:54:58.360 --> 00:55:00.960
what I'm two on edge to laugh, but I know it's funny, he

817
00:55:00.039 --> 00:55:05.159
says in voiceover. There is a
moment of sheer panic when I realize that

818
00:55:05.239 --> 00:55:10.480
Paul's apartment overlooks the park and is
obviously more expensive than mine. It's like,

819
00:55:12.440 --> 00:55:16.760
what a fucking loser. Ha.
He packs Paul's suitcase and he leaves

820
00:55:16.800 --> 00:55:22.199
an appropriately douchey outgoing message on Paul's
answering machine, saying he's going to London

821
00:55:22.239 --> 00:55:24.239
for a few days for work.
A few days later, Patrick is sitting

822
00:55:24.280 --> 00:55:32.840
in his office. He's listening to
the Lady Red is dancing with me against

823
00:55:32.880 --> 00:55:37.000
such a great needle dry all right, So he's staring out the window when

824
00:55:37.079 --> 00:55:43.840
Private Detective Donald Kimball played by Willem
Dafoe. If there was an actor that

825
00:55:44.000 --> 00:55:45.719
more needed to be in this movie
with Christian bal than Williem Dafoe, I

826
00:55:45.760 --> 00:55:49.280
do not know who it is.
I don't me either, I couldn't name

827
00:55:49.280 --> 00:55:53.519
the person. Uh So Donald apologizes
for interrupting Patrick while he's quote unquote working

828
00:55:53.840 --> 00:55:59.519
and Patrick shoves his Walkman in magazine
into a desk drawer. Donald is friendly

829
00:55:59.639 --> 00:56:02.199
and core Joel and asks Patrick some
basics about Paul, like where did he

830
00:56:02.239 --> 00:56:06.480
hang out? Where did he go
to school? And Patrick asks whether Donald

831
00:56:06.519 --> 00:56:09.320
already knows this information, and Donald
smiles and says, yes, I just

832
00:56:09.320 --> 00:56:15.079
want to know if you know it. Patrick gives him some info and he

833
00:56:15.119 --> 00:56:17.440
says that he suspects Paul was into
that whole Yale thing. And then he's

834
00:56:17.480 --> 00:56:22.440
like, what Yale thing? Because
remember Donald is a is a normy,

835
00:56:22.480 --> 00:56:24.000
He's one of us. He's not
in this upper echelon. He's like,

836
00:56:24.039 --> 00:56:27.519
what do you mean by Yale thing? You know? The answer is so

837
00:56:27.599 --> 00:56:34.719
good. He says, you know, a cocaine addicted closet at homosexual that

838
00:56:34.960 --> 00:56:45.280
Yale? Yea what? Then Patrick
tells Donald that he has a lunch meeting

839
00:56:45.280 --> 00:56:49.400
in twenty minutes with Cliff Huxtable and
shows Donald out. Okay, so like

840
00:56:49.519 --> 00:56:52.159
that's an allusion to The Cosby Show, which in nineteen eighty seven was the

841
00:56:52.199 --> 00:56:55.599
biggest show on television. Everyone was
watching it. Yeah, this guy can't

842
00:56:55.599 --> 00:56:59.199
even lie, right, He's like, may as well just be like,

843
00:56:59.239 --> 00:57:01.519
I have an appointment with SpongeBob SquarePants. I gotta go. Yeah, the

844
00:57:01.519 --> 00:57:06.960
fact that he doesn't get caught is
so funny the whole movie. He's terrible

845
00:57:07.000 --> 00:57:09.199
at this, He's so bad at
it. A few nights later, we

846
00:57:09.239 --> 00:57:14.199
see Patrick wearing a black tie.
Right, like he's clearly come from some

847
00:57:14.320 --> 00:57:17.280
event somewhere. Right, he's writing
in a limo. He picks up a

848
00:57:17.320 --> 00:57:22.519
sex worker played by Kara Seymour.
Did you recognize her from a previous that

849
00:57:22.559 --> 00:57:27.840
aged Well film? I didn't.
She is Tom Hanks's wicked stepmother and you've

850
00:57:27.840 --> 00:57:32.119
got mail. Oh my goodness went
to the seat. You can't un see

851
00:57:32.159 --> 00:57:37.159
it. And that makes this movie
way more disturbing, way weirder. Yeah,

852
00:57:37.280 --> 00:57:38.880
so he picks her up in the
meatpacking district, which in nineteen eighty

853
00:57:38.880 --> 00:57:42.719
seven would have still had sex workers
in him. Yeah. The other thing

854
00:57:42.719 --> 00:57:45.719
about this movie is they constantly are
shooting empty New York streets. Yeah,

855
00:57:45.840 --> 00:57:49.679
they may have been in Vancouver or
something. I know they did some shooting

856
00:57:49.719 --> 00:57:52.800
here. Actually, that alleyway where
he kills that man does not exist.

857
00:57:52.920 --> 00:57:55.280
That's not in There's no alleyway like
that. Otherwise we'd all just be like,

858
00:57:55.280 --> 00:57:58.639
well, that's murder alley so we're
all gonna stay out of there.

859
00:57:58.800 --> 00:58:00.360
Yeah. Well, the whole thing
about this movie too is I'm like,

860
00:58:00.400 --> 00:58:06.639
there's not a single woman I know
who would not have a four second conversation

861
00:58:06.719 --> 00:58:08.000
with Patrick Bateman and be like,
your murderer, stay away from me.

862
00:58:08.679 --> 00:58:13.239
Yeah, absolutely not. So he
picks this woman up, and he introduces

863
00:58:13.320 --> 00:58:15.920
himself as Paul Allen and tells her
that her name for the rest of the

864
00:58:16.000 --> 00:58:19.840
night is Christy. We never learned
her real name. He takes her to

865
00:58:19.880 --> 00:58:22.440
his apartment and on the way he
calls an escort service from his giant Zach

866
00:58:22.440 --> 00:58:28.599
Morris telephone and he asks for a
young blonde who works with couples. Right,

867
00:58:28.679 --> 00:58:30.519
so he's in the mood for a
threesome. He's who is in He's

868
00:58:30.559 --> 00:58:34.519
spicing up his life. Booms among
us? Who booms to among us?

869
00:58:34.679 --> 00:58:37.440
And honestly, though, like that
sex worker working the meat packing district in

870
00:58:37.480 --> 00:58:40.960
nineteen eighty seven, you see a
limo pull up, you see a guy

871
00:58:42.000 --> 00:58:44.760
that looks like that, yeah,
dressed in a tuxedo, and you're like

872
00:58:45.199 --> 00:58:49.840
chu ching. When the other sex
worker arrives, he names her Sabrina.

873
00:58:50.000 --> 00:58:52.480
Your name is going to be Sabrina
and the other woman's like cool, cool

874
00:58:52.480 --> 00:58:57.760
whatever, clearly like a very like
high priced escort. Oh. She is

875
00:58:57.800 --> 00:59:00.239
played by Christa Sutton, by the
way. So he has them sit on

876
00:59:00.239 --> 00:59:04.000
the couch, he serves them wine, and then he tries to impress both

877
00:59:04.000 --> 00:59:07.320
women by telling him he's a successful
investment banker on Wall Street. They're so

878
00:59:07.559 --> 00:59:12.920
unimpressed by this douchebag. They're like, pay us our money and fuck us,

879
00:59:13.440 --> 00:59:15.559
let us get out of here and
let let's go. Yeah. Patrick

880
00:59:15.599 --> 00:59:21.920
instead puts on a Phil Collin CD
and starts monologuing to the women about the

881
00:59:22.000 --> 00:59:25.679
genius of Phil Collins and genesis an
Invisible Touch. I will tell you right,

882
00:59:25.679 --> 00:59:29.440
I actually love the song Invisible Touch. It's a fucking banger. I

883
00:59:29.519 --> 00:59:32.239
was in a road trip recently and
a Phil Collins song against all odds,

884
00:59:32.320 --> 00:59:36.519
uh huh came on the radio,
and fifteen year old me would have been

885
00:59:36.559 --> 00:59:39.000
so angry at forty three year old
me, who was like, turn it

886
00:59:39.119 --> 00:59:46.239
up, pump up the jam,
Phil Collins rocks. Oh my god,

887
00:59:46.239 --> 00:59:50.760
I love this song. It's such
a good song. It's such a dorky

888
00:59:50.840 --> 00:59:53.079
song, and I'm like, well
that's who I am now, I'm the

889
00:59:53.159 --> 01:00:00.079
lady who likes Phil Colin imagined like
that was my favorite runner in the mo

890
01:00:00.360 --> 01:00:04.920
is him just like being like,
you know what band is amazing, Mike

891
01:00:05.000 --> 01:00:10.039
and the Mechanics. You know what
band you really don't understand? Kaja Goo

892
01:00:10.039 --> 01:00:17.119
Goo? Have you heard She's like
the Wind by Patrick Swayze? That song

893
01:00:17.159 --> 01:00:22.840
will change your life? It's good. That's apparently from the book too.

894
01:00:22.920 --> 01:00:25.519
Like in the book there are stretches
of like, I'm assuming, like Brett

895
01:00:25.519 --> 01:00:30.760
Easton ellis talking about bands he likes
and Patrick Bateman, I really because every

896
01:00:30.760 --> 01:00:34.119
time it happens a few times in
the movie and it's it's great, every

897
01:00:34.599 --> 01:00:38.920
funny. It's so funny where he's
just like Peter Gabriel Sledgehammer is something that

898
01:00:39.239 --> 01:00:45.159
really changed me as a young person. A all right, So Patrick goes

899
01:00:45.199 --> 01:00:47.599
about setting up a camera in his
bedroom. He's art directing the scene he

900
01:00:47.679 --> 01:00:53.559
wants to play out by the way
was filming negotiated. Christy and Sabrina may

901
01:00:53.559 --> 01:00:55.559
want to sing out a little bit
here, Yeah, maybe like this is

902
01:00:55.559 --> 01:01:00.440
gonna cost extra. Yeah, the
internet hadn't been invented. They didn't care.

903
01:01:00.199 --> 01:01:02.159
The fine film is naked. We
don't give a shit. Literally,

904
01:01:02.239 --> 01:01:07.400
no one will ever see this.
They get into a threesome underscored by Sue

905
01:01:07.440 --> 01:01:13.719
Sue Studio. The fucking Susue Studio
is maybe my favorite joke in the movie.

906
01:01:14.000 --> 01:01:17.880
It's so goddamn funny. He's he
is fucking them while he's staring at

907
01:01:17.960 --> 01:01:22.199
himself in the mirror, directing them
to look at the camera. He's flexing.

908
01:01:22.559 --> 01:01:27.119
He's just completely turned on by his
own image. The lengths this movie

909
01:01:27.159 --> 01:01:31.119
goes to to obscure Christian Bale's penis, I know they're trying so her Christian

910
01:01:31.159 --> 01:01:34.119
Bale is like, I don't care. You guys like, yeah, but

911
01:01:34.159 --> 01:01:37.760
we can't show it. Okay,
So I understand why they don't show it.

912
01:01:37.800 --> 01:01:39.239
I'm not even saying I want to
show at this point. But my

913
01:01:39.400 --> 01:01:45.039
favorite thing they'll do is have like
a man in a movie pull out of

914
01:01:45.199 --> 01:01:52.679
like full penetration and like a shadow
falls over his crotch and you can't see

915
01:01:52.679 --> 01:01:54.280
anything, and I'm like, well, there's a thing that's there. He

916
01:01:54.320 --> 01:01:58.840
doesn't have a vagina that can be
obscured by a simple shadow. Yeah,

917
01:01:58.880 --> 01:02:01.480
that's the two thousands four early two
thousands are like, if we put a

918
01:02:01.480 --> 01:02:07.039
penis in this movie, that's guaranteed. In seventeen, We're We're gonna We're

919
01:02:07.119 --> 01:02:09.159
not even an r anymore, Like
all we can show all the violence in

920
01:02:09.159 --> 01:02:15.559
the world, but god forbid we
show Christian Bale's balls. By the way

921
01:02:15.559 --> 01:02:21.280
he is raw dogging two sex workers
in eighty seven, I had the same

922
01:02:21.599 --> 01:02:24.039
thoughts. I was like, bitch, Mollie, you in danger girl?

923
01:02:24.360 --> 01:02:29.519
What are you doing? Can I
say? Like to me? And I

924
01:02:29.519 --> 01:02:31.440
guess, I guess this is a
weird thing, but like this is the

925
01:02:31.440 --> 01:02:36.840
most violent scene in the movie to
me, Like the sex scenes are so

926
01:02:37.119 --> 01:02:44.719
violent, Like he's not pretty vanilla
to me, but there's something about the

927
01:02:44.760 --> 01:02:49.199
intensity of the way he's like fucking
these women and not looking at them and

928
01:02:49.280 --> 01:02:53.199
like dehumanizing them. I actually found
the sex scenes more, way, way,

929
01:02:53.280 --> 01:02:57.760
way more disturbing than the violence,
because the violence is always couched in

930
01:02:57.800 --> 01:03:04.760
some level of like comedy like this
over the top grand Ganol like Nonz And

931
01:03:04.880 --> 01:03:08.440
the sex scenes are also over the
top because like there's one there's a moment

932
01:03:08.480 --> 01:03:13.400
here where it's like the two women
look like they're what their doggy style?

933
01:03:13.480 --> 01:03:17.079
What is a smaller dog? One's
a bigger women are doggy styling each other

934
01:03:17.119 --> 01:03:22.280
and I'm like, I don't,
but how what's happening? And then he's

935
01:03:22.360 --> 01:03:25.320
behind so it's like it's like a
train happening, but it's two vaginas in

936
01:03:25.360 --> 01:03:29.280
a penis. I'm like, that's
a bisexual train that should have a man

937
01:03:29.320 --> 01:03:32.679
in the middle. Technically technically,
technically again whatever. But like, to

938
01:03:32.800 --> 01:03:36.800
me, these scenes, over the
top though they may be, and the

939
01:03:36.800 --> 01:03:42.000
fact that it's set to Sisudio helps
are almost more violent to watch and more

940
01:03:42.159 --> 01:03:44.840
they were harder for me to watch
than any of the day. Oh that's

941
01:03:44.840 --> 01:03:47.079
funny, because they were the funniest
part to me. It's so over the

942
01:03:47.079 --> 01:03:52.000
top and ludicrous. And and the
women at this part of the movie,

943
01:03:52.320 --> 01:03:58.840
the actresses are not performing scared,
they're performing. They're performing like perfunctory.

944
01:03:59.000 --> 01:04:00.880
They're like, all right, I
mean to do a job. You want

945
01:04:00.920 --> 01:04:05.800
me to eat her? Whatever?
Well, money screen great, you know,

946
01:04:05.920 --> 01:04:11.519
So like I I see your point
about like the dehumanization, but it

947
01:04:11.599 --> 01:04:14.000
for me, as a man and
not a woman, I was able to

948
01:04:14.000 --> 01:04:17.480
be like this is fucking ridiculous.
Like that that threesome you just describe where

949
01:04:17.480 --> 01:04:19.679
he's like behind two of them,
Like what is his dick so long?

950
01:04:19.719 --> 01:04:23.320
That he's like, somehow fucking one
of them through the other one the other

951
01:04:23.360 --> 01:04:27.199
one. Is that what's supposed to
happen, Like this is ludicrous? Oh

952
01:04:27.199 --> 01:04:29.599
my god, maybe that is what
because he's filming it right, yeah,

953
01:04:29.679 --> 01:04:31.679
like maybe that is what he's trying
to capture and film, like he's gonna

954
01:04:31.679 --> 01:04:33.920
show it to someone later and be
like, I'm fucking both of them at

955
01:04:33.960 --> 01:04:36.320
once right now, and like,
no, you're not. I'm hitting two

956
01:04:36.360 --> 01:04:39.320
clips with one deck and you're like, no, you're not. You can't.

957
01:04:40.519 --> 01:04:43.639
Yeah, you're not doing that.
So later that night, after everyone's

958
01:04:43.679 --> 01:04:45.760
climax, or at least Patrick ass
or actually no one has. I'm not

959
01:04:45.760 --> 01:04:48.679
sure that Patrick orgasms. I don't
think so. Yeah. If he did

960
01:04:48.800 --> 01:04:51.920
orgasm, it was after a particularly
strong flex in himself in the mirror and

961
01:04:51.920 --> 01:04:55.800
they just came. Yeah. I
just threw up in my mouth a little

962
01:04:55.800 --> 01:04:59.679
bit. Yeah. Patrick opens a
drawer full of clamps and saws another torture

963
01:04:59.679 --> 01:05:02.920
device and Paul goes glu Sabrina asks
if they can go, and he says

964
01:05:02.920 --> 01:05:06.639
sternly, we're not done yet,
and then we smash cut to both women

965
01:05:06.679 --> 01:05:10.679
in tears as they get their payment
and run out of the apartment and they

966
01:05:10.679 --> 01:05:14.960
have visible scars and bruises. This
I think actually does happen. Why because

967
01:05:15.320 --> 01:05:18.480
he doesn't kill them, and like
because they are sex workers, and so

968
01:05:18.679 --> 01:05:24.679
like there's there are no consequences like
this ship that happens a lot. Probably

969
01:05:25.440 --> 01:05:29.840
we see them crying and leaving,
and so they're like the other the other

970
01:05:29.920 --> 01:05:32.119
murders. There's no like once they're
dead. They're dead, right now,

971
01:05:32.159 --> 01:05:35.800
that's just a consequence of being dead. But there's no like famously, there's

972
01:05:35.840 --> 01:05:41.199
no close up on the victim's face
in like like screaming. You're seeing them

973
01:05:41.239 --> 01:05:44.719
have like a real human reaction.
You have a human reaction to his actions.

974
01:05:44.840 --> 01:05:47.480
Okay, so to me in my
head, and again there's no way

975
01:05:47.519 --> 01:05:50.880
to tell because this movie is so
ambiguous. Yeah you thought it was fake.

976
01:05:50.960 --> 01:05:55.199
Clearly I didn't have the reaction that
you had to the actual sex act.

977
01:05:55.320 --> 01:05:59.320
Like I found it funny, So
it lived in the same space as

978
01:05:59.320 --> 01:06:02.039
the rest of the movie for me, them crying and leaving the apartment angry

979
01:06:02.079 --> 01:06:06.079
could be part of it for the
fantasy. That's the thing too. There's

980
01:06:06.119 --> 01:06:09.239
no way to be like, no, I'm right, yeah, the movie

981
01:06:09.239 --> 01:06:12.679
doesn't tell you and I but in
my head and my canon like this is

982
01:06:12.800 --> 01:06:15.800
this actually happens, okay, which
is I don't know, a dark Knight

983
01:06:15.840 --> 01:06:21.079
of the soul, my friend,
So okay. We cut to Patrick,

984
01:06:21.199 --> 01:06:28.719
greg and David later on having the
most misogynistic conversation in the world. And

985
01:06:28.840 --> 01:06:30.760
to be clear, it's not Patrick
that starts it. It's Craig. It's

986
01:06:30.840 --> 01:06:35.079
Josh Lucas's character, who, by
the way, brave performances by all these

987
01:06:35.119 --> 01:06:39.960
actors who are just going hand for
like they're going for it right, And

988
01:06:40.000 --> 01:06:44.519
he's like, if a woman has
anything like any smart or sense of humor

989
01:06:44.639 --> 01:06:47.119
or god forbid, talent whatever that
means, it's just because she's so ugly,

990
01:06:47.199 --> 01:06:50.280
no one ever wanted a fuck her. Yeah, it is brutal to

991
01:06:50.360 --> 01:06:54.159
listen to you. It is really
intense. And they're all laughing and like

992
01:06:54.199 --> 01:06:57.920
agreeing with each other, and they're
like, women are stupid and women deserve

993
01:06:58.159 --> 01:07:00.280
like all this shit that comes to
them. Yeah, it's so, and

994
01:07:00.599 --> 01:07:04.360
like, but couched in this like, no one has said anything yet that

995
01:07:04.400 --> 01:07:08.719
crosses the line to in this in
this circle, right, And I think

996
01:07:08.760 --> 01:07:13.840
it's important that they do it like
that because it's so it avoids the bird

997
01:07:13.840 --> 01:07:15.760
cage problem. The problem I have
with the bird cage where you've tried to

998
01:07:15.760 --> 01:07:20.360
satirize and what you have done is
come up with someone who is less ridiculous

999
01:07:20.360 --> 01:07:24.119
than what we are dealing with in
the real world today. Yeah, and

1000
01:07:24.480 --> 01:07:29.199
this the writers were smart enough to
be like, no, it has to

1001
01:07:29.239 --> 01:07:31.719
be the most ludicrously over the top
thing. Because they're both women, and

1002
01:07:31.760 --> 01:07:36.519
because they've probably heard various things,
they're like, we know, we know

1003
01:07:36.599 --> 01:07:40.960
what is kind of acceptable because we
know what people are saying to our faces.

1004
01:07:41.159 --> 01:07:44.039
Yeah. Right, So, like, it's got to be worse behind

1005
01:07:44.079 --> 01:07:46.320
closed doors. Behind those doors they're
like clubhouses, and if we're gonna satirize

1006
01:07:46.320 --> 01:07:49.159
it, we've got to turn the
volume all the way up. Yep,

1007
01:07:49.519 --> 01:07:55.480
which Patrick does. So they're all
they're all having this conversation. Patrick's been

1008
01:07:55.480 --> 01:07:58.079
pretty quiet, and you kind of
expect him to do that thing that he

1009
01:07:58.159 --> 01:08:00.400
does earlier in the movie where he's
like, guys, we should be talking

1010
01:08:00.440 --> 01:08:02.559
about women that way. He's trying
to fit in, he's trying to fit

1011
01:08:02.679 --> 01:08:08.320
in, but instead he goes,
do you know who ed Gean? Is?

1012
01:08:08.480 --> 01:08:10.320
Edgan? By the way, in
case you don't know, very famous

1013
01:08:10.360 --> 01:08:13.760
serial killer. I did not the
guy, the guy that Norman Bates is

1014
01:08:13.800 --> 01:08:16.479
based on in Psycho Just a heads
up, and Patrick chimes in with this

1015
01:08:16.800 --> 01:08:21.039
ed Gan quote about wanting to see
a pretty girl's head on a spike.

1016
01:08:21.359 --> 01:08:26.640
Yeah, and that's a bridge too
far even for these assholes, these nightmare

1017
01:08:26.720 --> 01:08:30.199
asshole men. And they're all they
all just like stare at him with this

1018
01:08:30.279 --> 01:08:33.239
like slightly concerned look on their faces, like okay, buddy, what did

1019
01:08:33.319 --> 01:08:39.760
you just say. Then Lewis breaks
attention by approaching the group. He is

1020
01:08:39.880 --> 01:08:45.000
so happy because he just had new
business cards made and he wants to show

1021
01:08:45.039 --> 01:08:48.319
his business card off. So he
pulls it out and he hands it to

1022
01:08:48.359 --> 01:08:55.159
one of them, and the men's
faces just the business card is so divine.

1023
01:08:55.439 --> 01:08:59.000
By the way, we have to
be very clear about the differences in

1024
01:08:59.039 --> 01:09:02.760
these business cards. Minuscule. They
are minuscule. It is font choices like

1025
01:09:03.119 --> 01:09:06.279
sans serif or with serif, but
it's the same font it is. It

1026
01:09:06.359 --> 01:09:14.000
is like oak, ekrew bone,
eggshell, eggshell, ivory like these are

1027
01:09:14.039 --> 01:09:18.199
not they're not wild fluctuations yet,
Like his card wasn't made by like Andy

1028
01:09:18.199 --> 01:09:21.760
Warhol, right, yeh, Yeah. He just pulls and it's all three

1029
01:09:21.800 --> 01:09:26.960
men look at it, and they're
so embarrassed and jealous and they just cannot

1030
01:09:27.000 --> 01:09:30.960
believe this divine thing that they're looking
at that they all kind of shut down.

1031
01:09:30.239 --> 01:09:34.079
Yep. Patrick will not let this
stand. He is a bridge too

1032
01:09:34.119 --> 01:09:38.720
far this, sir. You bite
your thumb at me, sir aha.

1033
01:09:39.640 --> 01:09:43.600
He follows Lewis into the men's room
and he puts on a pair of gloves.

1034
01:09:43.720 --> 01:09:46.359
Lewis at the urinal. Patrick walks
up behind him and look, I

1035
01:09:46.399 --> 01:09:49.560
know it's a it's a satire or
whatever, doesn't matter, but like you

1036
01:09:49.680 --> 01:09:53.760
know, if someone's behind you at
the Jurnal, you're in a vulnerable state.

1037
01:09:54.399 --> 01:10:00.520
Your antenna or up. So he
brings his gloved hands up and he

1038
01:10:00.680 --> 01:10:05.640
puts his hands on Louis's neck.
And then Lewis turns around and he's Patrick,

1039
01:10:05.840 --> 01:10:10.199
and he pulls down the glove on
Patrick's hand and he kisses his hand.

1040
01:10:11.159 --> 01:10:14.680
Yeah, and he tells him how
much he's wanted him all these years,

1041
01:10:14.840 --> 01:10:20.520
and Patrick does not know how to
react. So, now that you

1042
01:10:20.560 --> 01:10:25.640
were brought up like what's real and
what isn't real? I almost wonder if

1043
01:10:25.680 --> 01:10:28.239
this actually does happen. Oh,
I think this is real. This is

1044
01:10:28.279 --> 01:10:31.560
real because also he can't bring himself
to strangle this person. Yeah, because

1045
01:10:31.600 --> 01:10:35.800
it's not a fantasy, it's a
real moment. And so he literally just

1046
01:10:35.840 --> 01:10:41.880
like puts his hands on Louis's shoulders
almost yeah, and does nothing. Like

1047
01:10:41.920 --> 01:10:44.840
he doesn't know how to kill someone, so he's just like, now what

1048
01:10:45.000 --> 01:10:49.000
happens, And of course Lewis just
misreads the whole situation. Yeah, Patrick

1049
01:10:49.119 --> 01:10:53.159
rushes to the sink. Louis is
confessing, Oh, I'm so happy we

1050
01:10:53.199 --> 01:10:55.920
can be open. I've seen you
looking at me. Blah blah blah blah

1051
01:10:55.920 --> 01:11:00.800
blah. He washes his gloves while
he's wearing them great, and then stammers

1052
01:11:00.800 --> 01:11:04.239
that he needs to return some videotapes
before running out of the restaurant. The

1053
01:11:04.279 --> 01:11:06.840
other three douchebros Are down there.
They were looking at him as he goes

1054
01:11:06.840 --> 01:11:11.800
past, and he turns around and
Lewis is at like this elevated level and

1055
01:11:11.840 --> 01:11:14.880
he like waves out him. He's
like, I'll call you, he mouths,

1056
01:11:15.560 --> 01:11:16.640
and then we don't see Lewis again
and the rest of the movie,

1057
01:11:16.640 --> 01:11:19.840
which I was disappointed. Real bummer, it's a bomb for the rest of

1058
01:11:19.920 --> 01:11:24.439
us. The runner of him getting
out of situations by saying he needs to

1059
01:11:24.479 --> 01:11:29.119
return some videotapes. Yeah, gets
funnier every single time it happens. Also

1060
01:11:29.159 --> 01:11:32.680
because we see him watching videotapes,
so he's either watching horror movies or porn

1061
01:11:32.880 --> 01:11:39.680
or hard Hardcar. One of his
porn movies is called inside Lydia's ass's title

1062
01:11:39.720 --> 01:11:42.239
of someone's calling oscopy tape and tell
you that it's funny? Though, is

1063
01:11:42.279 --> 01:11:45.319
the scene that we see is not
anal sex? But that's okay, okay,

1064
01:11:45.479 --> 01:11:48.720
movies contain multitudes that you know what
inside Lydia's asked. Maybe it's more

1065
01:11:48.760 --> 01:11:53.239
of like a sci fi adventure porn
filick perhaps, But yeah, so I

1066
01:11:53.239 --> 01:11:56.279
have to go return some tapes.
He leaves. He says it like four

1067
01:11:56.319 --> 01:11:59.439
times in the movie. It's pretty
funny every time. A few days later,

1068
01:12:00.079 --> 01:12:02.439
the private detective shows up at Patrick's
office again, this time to ask

1069
01:12:02.479 --> 01:12:05.600
Patrick where he was the night of
Paul's disappearance, which I don't know why

1070
01:12:05.680 --> 01:12:09.119
they didn't cover that the first time, right. Patrick's like, well,

1071
01:12:09.159 --> 01:12:11.560
let me look at my date book
and he kind of glances at it and

1072
01:12:11.560 --> 01:12:13.279
pretends to glance at it. He
goes, well, I was on a

1073
01:12:13.359 --> 01:12:16.439
date with a girl named Veronica.
The detective Donald looks very concerned. He's

1074
01:12:16.439 --> 01:12:18.920
like, well, I have different
information about where you were that night,

1075
01:12:18.960 --> 01:12:24.439
and Patrick starts to sweat and the
private detectives like, don't worry about it.

1076
01:12:24.439 --> 01:12:27.399
It's just I heard something else.
So you said you were at it

1077
01:12:27.439 --> 01:12:30.720
on a date. When was the
last time you saw Paul Allen? I'm

1078
01:12:30.760 --> 01:12:33.640
just curious And he's his line again. He's so bad at lying. The

1079
01:12:33.720 --> 01:12:36.840
last time I saw Paul was when
we went to a new musical called Oh

1080
01:12:36.880 --> 01:12:44.960
Africa, Brave Africa. It was
a laugh. Bryant. The Detective's like,

1081
01:12:45.039 --> 01:12:46.359
okay, well, thank you for
your time, and do you mind

1082
01:12:46.399 --> 01:12:50.039
if we grab lunch sometime next week
to like hash over the final details.

1083
01:12:50.199 --> 01:12:53.600
And he's like, I would love
that. Please invite me for lunch.

1084
01:12:53.640 --> 01:12:58.159
That sounds amazing. He like,
way over compensates. Yeah. We cut

1085
01:12:58.239 --> 01:13:02.439
to another club seat. This one
is so good, Patrick and Timothy that

1086
01:13:02.600 --> 01:13:08.039
is that's justin throw. They're doing
coke in a nightclub bathroom stall. But

1087
01:13:08.239 --> 01:13:11.319
it's like it's like rows and rows
of stall and everyone's just doing coke.

1088
01:13:11.479 --> 01:13:14.199
That's no one has pooped or pete
in any of these stalls. Ever.

1089
01:13:14.479 --> 01:13:16.000
You do enough coke you don't have
to poop anymore. That's that's part of

1090
01:13:16.039 --> 01:13:21.159
the benefits, right. They're having
the dumbest coke induced conversation about whether or

1091
01:13:21.199 --> 01:13:25.520
not you can catch Alzheimer's and dyslexia
from sex, just like you can catch

1092
01:13:25.520 --> 01:13:28.680
aids. The man in the stall
next to them peeks over and says,

1093
01:13:28.680 --> 01:13:31.079
do you mind, I'm trying to
do drugs here, and Timothy Nearly jumps

1094
01:13:31.119 --> 01:13:34.079
over the bathroom wall. There's an
F bomb in this scene. There's a

1095
01:13:34.079 --> 01:13:36.960
couple f bombs in the back end
of the movie. They're fine. It

1096
01:13:38.039 --> 01:13:41.479
is very much with the milieu of
this film. I agree. Yeah,

1097
01:13:41.640 --> 01:13:44.119
Patrick like grabs him and pulls him
back. It's like, sorry, dude,

1098
01:13:44.199 --> 01:13:46.800
steroids and you go back out into
the club. Patrick talks to a

1099
01:13:46.840 --> 01:13:51.159
model who asks what he does,
and he replies, murders and executions.

1100
01:13:51.279 --> 01:13:55.640
And she says, most guys I
know are in murgers and acquisitions. Don't

1101
01:13:55.720 --> 01:13:59.199
like it. Yeah, she says, there's something sweet about Patrick, and

1102
01:13:59.239 --> 01:14:03.720
she goes home with him. Model, you and danger girl, you're kenon.

1103
01:14:03.760 --> 01:14:06.279
Fodder girl, you got a red
shirt on. We cut to Patrick

1104
01:14:06.319 --> 01:14:10.520
in his office maybe the next day. A few days later, he's fondling

1105
01:14:10.560 --> 01:14:14.279
a lock of blonde hair, just
like the models of blonde hair. Right,

1106
01:14:15.279 --> 01:14:18.399
Jeane walks in and Patrick asks her
out for dinner that night. Jeane

1107
01:14:18.439 --> 01:14:25.359
has zero fucking chill. Also realize
that your boss is an asshole. Come

1108
01:14:25.399 --> 01:14:29.239
on, I know, I know. This is such a nightmare. So

1109
01:14:29.600 --> 01:14:30.439
he's like, do you want to
go have dinner with me? She's like

1110
01:14:30.520 --> 01:14:33.920
yes, without hesitation, She's like
where would you like to eat? Anywhere

1111
01:14:33.920 --> 01:14:38.880
you'd like and she says Dorsia and
he's like He's like, Jeane wants to

1112
01:14:38.880 --> 01:14:42.439
go to Dorcia, doesn't matter,
He's not gonna. He has no intention

1113
01:14:42.479 --> 01:14:45.239
of taking her anywhere. He calls
the scene meter d up again and he's

1114
01:14:45.319 --> 01:14:48.439
like, Hi, I need a
table for two tonight at nine pm.

1115
01:14:48.439 --> 01:14:50.720
And the guy's like we don't have
a table and he's like great, thanks,

1116
01:14:50.720 --> 01:14:54.840
And you hear the guy being like
we don't have a table and he

1117
01:14:54.960 --> 01:14:58.880
just hangs up, and Jean's like, you didn't leave your name and he's

1118
01:14:58.880 --> 01:15:00.600
like, they know who I am. Not. All of this is such

1119
01:15:00.640 --> 01:15:03.600
a bullshit. So he's like,
well, we have a reservation at nine

1120
01:15:03.600 --> 01:15:08.479
why don't you meet me at my
place before dinner and she's like, okay,

1121
01:15:08.800 --> 01:15:11.920
thanks Patrick, that sounds amazing.
And before she can feel too good

1122
01:15:11.960 --> 01:15:15.600
about herself, before she could have
a fleeting moment of self esteem and happiness

1123
01:15:15.720 --> 01:15:18.199
must be crushed. He goes,
by the way, Jeane, you're gonna

1124
01:15:18.199 --> 01:15:23.239
want to change your outfit before we
go out tonight. Damn. Later that

1125
01:15:23.359 --> 01:15:27.079
night, Jeane goes to his apartment
and is duly impressed with how elegant it

1126
01:15:27.119 --> 01:15:30.359
is. Patrick offers Jeane some sorbet
and she says, oh, okay,

1127
01:15:30.560 --> 01:15:32.359
and when he opens his freezer to
get it, we see the decapitated head

1128
01:15:32.359 --> 01:15:35.680
of a woman, probably the model
from the night before, in the freezer,

1129
01:15:35.800 --> 01:15:39.600
next to the sorbet. So this
I was able to laugh at.

1130
01:15:39.840 --> 01:15:44.680
Yeah, because it's so dumb.
Yeah. Patrick asks Jeane about herself,

1131
01:15:44.720 --> 01:15:47.960
and Jean shyly tells him her hopes
and dreams for the future, and Patrick

1132
01:15:48.039 --> 01:15:54.159
fingers his knife collection and opens a
closet full of murder props. This man

1133
01:15:54.359 --> 01:15:57.239
does not ever sit down. He
just like wanders around his apartment and talks

1134
01:15:57.239 --> 01:16:00.199
to her while she sits on the
couch and doesn't move. Yeah, like

1135
01:16:00.199 --> 01:16:02.800
it's interest whatever, Like you said, it's all bullshit. So it doesn't

1136
01:16:02.840 --> 01:16:06.920
matter that it's unrealistic, but like, it's so funny the power dynamic at

1137
01:16:06.920 --> 01:16:11.399
play that they're doing it, that
they're playing out like she's afraid to move

1138
01:16:11.479 --> 01:16:14.960
or even look at them. She's
pray, Yeah, there's nothing like ostentatious

1139
01:16:14.960 --> 01:16:17.319
about her. Yeah, and he's
just like circling her like a fucking predator

1140
01:16:17.479 --> 01:16:21.680
yep, totally oblivious of the danger
she's in. Jane asks Patrick if he

1141
01:16:21.760 --> 01:16:27.600
ever thinks about settling down and making
someone happy, and Patrick, who at

1142
01:16:27.600 --> 01:16:30.760
this point has gotten out an industrial
nail gun and is standing directly behind Gene

1143
01:16:30.760 --> 01:16:34.279
and holding the nail gun to the
back of her head, says, I

1144
01:16:34.279 --> 01:16:39.359
guess I just want to have a
meaningful relationship with somebody special. And at

1145
01:16:39.359 --> 01:16:44.000
that moment, Evelyn calls and leaves
a flirty message for Patrick that Jane can

1146
01:16:44.079 --> 01:16:47.079
hear, and Jane looks hurt.
She asks Patrick if he wants her to

1147
01:16:47.079 --> 01:16:50.239
go, and he says, yes, I think if you stay, something

1148
01:16:50.279 --> 01:16:56.800
bad will happen. I think I
might hurt you. Jane leaves, but

1149
01:16:56.920 --> 01:17:00.199
not before reminding Patrick that he has
a lunch date the next day with Donald

1150
01:17:00.479 --> 01:17:02.960
the detective. This scene's super interesting, right, like this is a turning

1151
01:17:02.960 --> 01:17:06.640
point for the character. He doesn't
like her, but he weirdly cares about

1152
01:17:06.640 --> 01:17:10.920
her, he feels like responsible for
her. Well, it's it's like he

1153
01:17:10.920 --> 01:17:15.600
he hurt her emotionally with the Evelyn
call. Yeah right, and that's what

1154
01:17:15.680 --> 01:17:19.039
he can't process in some weird way. So this is real, right,

1155
01:17:19.159 --> 01:17:25.119
this is really happening. Oh possibly, again, the movie's so ambiguous it's

1156
01:17:25.119 --> 01:17:27.800
hard to tell in retrospect. Yeah, like what's real and what's not?

1157
01:17:27.840 --> 01:17:30.279
I think this is all real that
Yeah, like that makes sense to me.

1158
01:17:30.439 --> 01:17:34.119
So we cut to lunch with Donald
Patrick is sweaty and nervous. He

1159
01:17:34.199 --> 01:17:39.319
could not look more guilty. I
read somewhere that Christian Bale like is somehow

1160
01:17:39.359 --> 01:17:44.560
able to make himself sweat what I
mean, I'm not surprised when they hose

1161
01:17:44.680 --> 01:17:47.560
him down with like a super soaker
before the scene, and apparently he's probably

1162
01:17:47.600 --> 01:17:51.800
like just clenching all of his muscles
and like that will make you sweat eventually,

1163
01:17:51.840 --> 01:17:55.680
right, because he's like red in
the face. Yeah, he's one

1164
01:17:55.680 --> 01:17:59.239
of those actors that goes all out, like crazy, all out. Like

1165
01:17:59.279 --> 01:18:01.039
there's a movie he made once,
The Machinists, where he had to lose

1166
01:18:01.079 --> 01:18:03.960
like I don't know how much weight, and he whittled his body down.

1167
01:18:04.039 --> 01:18:06.279
I didn't. I couldn't see the
movie. I like he saw de Niro

1168
01:18:06.439 --> 01:18:10.199
do it once and he was like, hold my beer. Yeah, he's

1169
01:18:10.199 --> 01:18:13.079
one of those who like like he
was in character as Patrick Bateman this whole

1170
01:18:13.079 --> 01:18:17.600
shoot, What a miserable seven weeks. That must really Jesus Christ. Like

1171
01:18:17.600 --> 01:18:21.000
hopefully Jared Letto had it metastasized into
what he is now at this point,

1172
01:18:21.039 --> 01:18:26.000
and he was basically still vaguely normal. Yeah, and he wasn't going around

1173
01:18:26.000 --> 01:18:28.600
being Paul Allen. But can you
imagine if the two of them had like

1174
01:18:28.760 --> 01:18:31.199
just to throw and Josh Lucas are
just staring at her, just the four

1175
01:18:31.279 --> 01:18:35.199
texts of assholeary happening on set,
Like if Mark Wahlberg had been in this,

1176
01:18:35.199 --> 01:18:39.800
the whole fucking set would have exploded. Oh my god. So again,

1177
01:18:39.840 --> 01:18:42.960
they're sitting down to lunch. Patrick
is super guilty looking. Donald tells

1178
01:18:43.000 --> 01:18:46.319
him that the night he disappeared,
Paul Allen was supposedly having dinner with Marcus

1179
01:18:46.359 --> 01:18:50.600
How I can never say this fucking
name. Haberstrom, Habvelstrom, Halberstrom,

1180
01:18:50.680 --> 01:18:55.960
Haristrom the guy that he thinks that
Paul Alan thought Patrick was right, and

1181
01:18:56.000 --> 01:18:57.960
he's like, do you know him? And Patrick's like, yes, I

1182
01:18:57.960 --> 01:19:00.479
do. He goes, does Marcus
have an alibi for where he was that

1183
01:19:00.600 --> 01:19:02.319
night? And Donald says, actually
he does. He says he was at

1184
01:19:02.439 --> 01:19:08.000
a big dinner that night with several
witnesses, friends of yours and including you.

1185
01:19:08.000 --> 01:19:13.159
You were at that dinner. And
Patrick is so thrilled if he just

1186
01:19:13.520 --> 01:19:17.439
handed this, like perfectly gift wrapped
alibi. Uh huh, Like the other

1187
01:19:17.479 --> 01:19:21.199
guy had no idea how much he
was saving Patrick's ass. And he was

1188
01:19:21.239 --> 01:19:26.359
like, that's right, I was
at that dinner. My date must have

1189
01:19:26.479 --> 01:19:30.800
been the next night with that girl. And Donald just drops it and he

1190
01:19:30.840 --> 01:19:33.079
suddenly is super friendly and he's like, Nah, don't worry about it.

1191
01:19:33.119 --> 01:19:35.760
These things happen all the time.
I'm sure this guy just went to London

1192
01:19:35.800 --> 01:19:39.680
to blow off some steam and he's
gonna show back up in a few days.

1193
01:19:40.039 --> 01:19:44.119
And Paul Allen is fine, Yeah, excellent Donald the detective from the

1194
01:19:44.159 --> 01:19:46.680
movie. Yeah, so it's time
for Patrick to celebrate. What's a guy

1195
01:19:46.680 --> 01:19:50.479
to do. You pick up some
strange you head right back to the meat

1196
01:19:50.479 --> 01:19:55.520
packing district and you find Christy,
who is reluctant to get into the car

1197
01:19:55.560 --> 01:19:58.199
with him as she had to go
to the emergency room after the last time.

1198
01:19:58.479 --> 01:20:02.399
She may even need surgery. Christy
be smart, girl, girl girl.

1199
01:20:02.960 --> 01:20:05.880
He gives her a check for her
previous trouble with him. Sex workers

1200
01:20:05.880 --> 01:20:10.199
don't take checks. Why are you
taking a check? Ask for cash?

1201
01:20:11.520 --> 01:20:14.840
So he offers her a huge wad
of cash to get in the car,

1202
01:20:15.239 --> 01:20:18.880
and he promises that this time won't
be like last time, and against her

1203
01:20:18.880 --> 01:20:23.880
better judgment, Christy gets in the
car. He takes Christy to Paul Allen's

1204
01:20:23.880 --> 01:20:28.520
apartment this time right, and there
they are met by Patrick's friend Elizabeth,

1205
01:20:28.640 --> 01:20:34.359
who is played by the film screenwriter
Guenevere Turner. So Elizabeth is like Patrick's

1206
01:20:34.439 --> 01:20:40.000
childhood friend, right, hoity toity
rich went to Dalton and blah blah blah

1207
01:20:40.000 --> 01:20:44.119
and all that nonsense. Right,
So she sees Christy sitting in the living

1208
01:20:44.199 --> 01:20:47.359
room and she's pretty drunk already,
she probably showed up drunk. Patrick says

1209
01:20:47.520 --> 01:20:54.119
she's his cousin from France. Okay, she has spoken, so we know

1210
01:20:54.199 --> 01:20:57.359
she's American. But he's like,
that's my cousin. She's French, don't

1211
01:20:57.359 --> 01:21:00.800
ask any more questions. That's my
girlfriend. She lives in Canada, Niagaraphone.

1212
01:21:01.039 --> 01:21:04.600
Elizabeth obviously figures out this is all
bullshit. She doesn't question him.

1213
01:21:04.640 --> 01:21:09.600
She's like, okay, whatever we
see. Patrick pour both women glasses of

1214
01:21:09.640 --> 01:21:13.439
wine laced with some kind of narcotic
They both drink it, right. Elizabeth

1215
01:21:13.479 --> 01:21:15.520
even notices She's like, this tastes
weird, but she drinks two glasses of

1216
01:21:15.520 --> 01:21:18.159
it anyway. Right, she is
five sheets to the wind. At this

1217
01:21:18.199 --> 01:21:21.800
point, Patrick suggested that the two
women have sex for his amusement, and

1218
01:21:21.920 --> 01:21:25.840
Elizabeth, who remember, has like
higher status in this scene. Right,

1219
01:21:25.880 --> 01:21:27.880
She's not a sex worker. She
doesn't have to do what he tells her

1220
01:21:27.880 --> 01:21:30.119
to do. She's like, no, I mean, I know I went

1221
01:21:30.159 --> 01:21:33.840
to Sarah Lawrence, but I'm not
a lesbian. That was a great line.

1222
01:21:35.520 --> 01:21:40.800
Smash cut to Elizabeth and Christy making
out on Patrick's couch while he monologues

1223
01:21:41.119 --> 01:21:44.680
about the greatness of Whitney Houston and
how the greatest love of all is a

1224
01:21:44.720 --> 01:21:48.399
powerful anthem of self empathy, which
he really relates to since he can't empathize

1225
01:21:48.439 --> 01:21:51.359
with anyone but himself. This is
funny every time, and the two women

1226
01:21:51.399 --> 01:21:54.439
laugh at them. They're like,
wait, you like Whitney Houston. For

1227
01:21:54.560 --> 01:21:58.199
all the money they dropped on this
movie and on the soundtrack, they could

1228
01:21:58.239 --> 01:22:02.079
not afford the Greatest Love, and
so like a Muzak cover of the Greatest

1229
01:22:02.119 --> 01:22:04.920
Love of All plays under the scene. You're absolutely right, you know I

1230
01:22:04.920 --> 01:22:09.399
didn't notice that. What's also funny
is I bet like some lawyer for Whitney

1231
01:22:09.439 --> 01:22:13.920
Houston was like, no, no, absolutely not, no way. We

1232
01:22:14.000 --> 01:22:15.880
are not having a Whitney Houston song
over a lesbian sex scene. There's no

1233
01:22:15.920 --> 01:22:19.920
reason I will not be taking any
other questions. We are not hiding anything.

1234
01:22:20.039 --> 01:22:24.840
The three of them adjourned to the
boudoir. Everyone's under the blankets,

1235
01:22:24.840 --> 01:22:28.199
and we see Christy kind of slide
out from under the blankets and start to

1236
01:22:28.199 --> 01:22:30.720
gather her things while Patrick is having
sex with Elizabeth. Just as she's about

1237
01:22:30.760 --> 01:22:34.279
to leave, she sees blood start
to seep through the sheets. And here's

1238
01:22:34.279 --> 01:22:40.600
Elizabeth screaming, and she's like fuck
fuck, and Patrick like throws open the

1239
01:22:40.640 --> 01:22:43.600
sheets again. Now I don't care
that I didn't see Christian Bell's penis in

1240
01:22:43.600 --> 01:22:49.239
this movie, but like he is
canonically nude for the rest of the scene

1241
01:22:49.960 --> 01:22:54.239
and the length that I and truly
I don't believe it was him. Christian

1242
01:22:54.279 --> 01:22:57.399
Bell, I'm positive would not give
a shit about showing a stick on You

1243
01:22:57.439 --> 01:22:59.680
know what. It might be too
that I saw this on Peacock. Did

1244
01:22:59.680 --> 01:23:02.439
you see this some Peacock. It
might be that, like the streaming services

1245
01:23:02.439 --> 01:23:05.800
blur stuff out. No, I
don't believe that, because if Christian Bales

1246
01:23:05.840 --> 01:23:09.800
Dick had been shown in this movie, it would have crossed my path at

1247
01:23:09.800 --> 01:23:15.439
some point in my adult life as
a gay man, fair enough, because

1248
01:23:15.439 --> 01:23:17.720
I was like, Netflix would definitely
like hang dong. But but I feel

1249
01:23:17.720 --> 01:23:20.880
like Peacock might be like, it's
in the name, Erica, It's in

1250
01:23:20.880 --> 01:23:25.279
the name, But Peacock's like,
people came here to watch sitcoms. Can

1251
01:23:25.319 --> 01:23:28.520
we just not show dick on this
network? Please? On this platform?

1252
01:23:29.399 --> 01:23:31.640
How dare you? You only pay
five dollars a month for Peacock, You

1253
01:23:31.680 --> 01:23:35.079
really don't deserve dick. If I'm
paying, I see cock, paycock cock.

1254
01:23:39.079 --> 01:23:42.039
So Christie runs to the apartment.
She's looking for an exit. And

1255
01:23:42.159 --> 01:23:45.520
so this is the horror This is
the most horror scene sequence in the whole

1256
01:23:45.520 --> 01:23:49.319
movie, because now we're doing this
from Christy's perspective, not from Patrick's yep,

1257
01:23:49.359 --> 01:23:53.079
and she's now been in this apartment
for a while. It almost seems

1258
01:23:53.079 --> 01:23:55.279
like she doesn't know how to where
the exit is. She's running for like

1259
01:23:55.359 --> 01:23:58.760
a while and still is in the
apartment. She keeps opening doors, yeah,

1260
01:23:58.760 --> 01:24:00.439
and like none of them are in
egg and in fact, behind every

1261
01:24:00.479 --> 01:24:05.760
door that she opens, there's mutilated
corpses everywhere. Patrick catches up to her.

1262
01:24:05.960 --> 01:24:09.640
She's on the ground, she falls, He goes down and he's trying

1263
01:24:09.640 --> 01:24:13.239
to bite her leg like he's a
cannibal. Yeah, And she kicks him

1264
01:24:13.239 --> 01:24:15.039
in the face and she runs out
of the apartment. She, by the

1265
01:24:15.039 --> 01:24:18.600
way, is dressed, so just
a neglige, yeah, but she's fully

1266
01:24:18.640 --> 01:24:24.199
covered. She's screaming as loudly as
she can. She's banging on all the

1267
01:24:24.279 --> 01:24:27.840
doors of these buildings. No one
is answering, and she starts running down

1268
01:24:27.880 --> 01:24:30.960
the stairs. Meanwhile, Patrick,
naked and covered with blood, is running

1269
01:24:31.000 --> 01:24:35.359
after her with a chainsaw that is
running. Yes, Paul Allen's apartment has

1270
01:24:35.399 --> 01:24:39.800
a chain saw in it. He
watches her from the top of the stairs

1271
01:24:39.880 --> 01:24:45.000
and dangles there's running chainsaw over the
railing. He aims for her, and

1272
01:24:45.199 --> 01:24:47.880
just as she gets to the bottom
of the stairs. He drops the chainsaw

1273
01:24:47.960 --> 01:24:51.840
and it lands on her and it
kills her. Yeah again, you do

1274
01:24:51.920 --> 01:24:57.000
not see this happen. This scene
is super intense. It's intense. I

1275
01:24:57.680 --> 01:25:01.079
will freely admit I missed some of
this visual I imagine, so I imagine

1276
01:25:01.119 --> 01:25:05.039
Zoe. So we cut to who
knows days later. Weeks later, he's

1277
01:25:05.039 --> 01:25:09.520
at lunch with Evelyn. Evelyn's just
chit chatting again, like we should get

1278
01:25:09.520 --> 01:25:13.640
married in the spring and blah blah
blah. Meanwhile, Patrick is just drawing

1279
01:25:13.760 --> 01:25:17.840
the scene of Christie's grisly death on
the tablecloth with crayons. So there's a

1280
01:25:17.880 --> 01:25:23.640
woman covered in blood with a chainsaw
through her back and Evelyn doesn't even notice.

1281
01:25:23.720 --> 01:25:26.880
She doesn't look down, she doesn't
care. She brings up their engagement

1282
01:25:27.000 --> 01:25:30.760
again, and Patrick finally snaps.
He's like, look, I'm sorry,

1283
01:25:30.840 --> 01:25:32.439
I have to end this right now. We can't stay together, and she's

1284
01:25:32.439 --> 01:25:34.960
like, what do you? Patrick
is just tired. Don't worry. He's

1285
01:25:34.960 --> 01:25:38.880
like, perfect, no, no, you're not gonna do this to me

1286
01:25:38.920 --> 01:25:41.680
again, Evelyn. What about all
of our friends. We have all the

1287
01:25:41.720 --> 01:25:44.159
same friends, Patrick, You're not
thinking this through. And he's like,

1288
01:25:44.359 --> 01:25:47.920
you can keep all the friends.
I don't want any of them. And

1289
01:25:48.039 --> 01:25:51.680
she's so upset she starts to cry
and sob at the table. She's making

1290
01:25:51.720 --> 01:25:56.439
a scene, and she even misses
the part where he just out loud admits

1291
01:25:56.439 --> 01:25:59.720
that he wants to focus more time
on his homicidal hobbies. He says the

1292
01:25:59.800 --> 01:26:04.000
word homicidal. I'm homicidal right now, and I'm trying to focus on that,

1293
01:26:04.239 --> 01:26:08.319
and I need to spend less time
pretending to be in this relationship.

1294
01:26:08.439 --> 01:26:11.199
Yeah, And she doesn't hear it, and all she hears is someone has

1295
01:26:11.199 --> 01:26:13.199
broken up with me. And we
know from that scene in the bathroom,

1296
01:26:13.199 --> 01:26:15.600
and he's not homocidal. He's not
homoicidal at all, right, No homicidal.

1297
01:26:15.720 --> 01:26:18.760
So she is sobbing loudly. She's
and like again, she's creating a

1298
01:26:18.800 --> 01:26:23.600
scene, which he fucking hates.
So he gets up and just storms out

1299
01:26:23.600 --> 01:26:26.680
of the restaurant. Before he leaves, he turns around and he goes,

1300
01:26:26.760 --> 01:26:31.479
I need to return some videotapes,
the all purpose excuse. In nineteen eighty

1301
01:26:31.479 --> 01:26:36.479
seven, we cut to nighttime.
Patrick goes to an ATM and there he

1302
01:26:36.560 --> 01:26:40.720
finds a stray kitten. Holy shit, this kin. Okay, look,

1303
01:26:40.720 --> 01:26:43.199
I'm just gonna spoil this right now
that kitten survives the movie. Yeah,

1304
01:26:43.199 --> 01:26:45.840
the kitten's fine. I was very
worried because I could not remember if the

1305
01:26:45.920 --> 01:26:49.640
kitten survived the movie. And I
was like, Paul will never ever forgive

1306
01:26:49.680 --> 01:26:58.039
me if I force him to watch
Kittenside, I don't know what will happen.

1307
01:26:58.039 --> 01:27:00.680
Our friendship will be over. We
have plans this, we're supposed to

1308
01:27:00.720 --> 01:27:04.800
travel together. That's got to be
canceled. Like I was genuinely like,

1309
01:27:04.840 --> 01:27:08.399
oh no, I have to think
five steps ahead. What gift can I

1310
01:27:08.439 --> 01:27:12.359
give him that will somehow make it
a blu ray copy of Keanu? That

1311
01:27:12.359 --> 01:27:15.039
should do it right? Only thing
I could think of, but actual Keanu

1312
01:27:15.119 --> 01:27:18.119
comes to your door and delivers it. That's right, Keanu with Keanu?

1313
01:27:18.279 --> 01:27:21.279
Yeah, all right. So he
finds a stray kit in there, he

1314
01:27:21.359 --> 01:27:25.680
picks it up, he pets it, and the ATM screen says, feed

1315
01:27:25.720 --> 01:27:29.439
me the stray cat. So this
was the moment for me where I was

1316
01:27:29.520 --> 01:27:33.479
like, okay, what where I
was really like not that everything up to

1317
01:27:33.520 --> 01:27:40.920
this holds together. But I was
in a elevated satirical universe. I was

1318
01:27:40.960 --> 01:27:45.439
like, okay, fine, he
dropped the chainsaw to be clear, like

1319
01:27:45.560 --> 01:27:49.399
fifteen floors, yes, and managed
to hit this woman who didn't hear the

1320
01:27:49.479 --> 01:27:55.840
chainsaw getting closer and dodge. So
you're saying it's her fault, then,

1321
01:27:55.960 --> 01:27:59.319
well, I'm just victim blaming and
only victims who deserve it, only victims

1322
01:27:59.319 --> 01:28:03.600
who don't dodge chainsaw PSA for this
episode. If someone throws an active chainsaw

1323
01:28:03.640 --> 01:28:09.199
at you, dodge, bitch shot, dodge, bitch dodge. If you

1324
01:28:09.359 --> 01:28:14.960
walk into someone's apartment and it is
entirely covered in tarps, yeah, yeah,

1325
01:28:15.760 --> 01:28:17.159
a careful adieu and be like,
I'm sorry, I have to go

1326
01:28:17.199 --> 01:28:19.479
buy a Huey Lewis in the new
seat. Excuse me, I have to

1327
01:28:19.520 --> 01:28:25.479
go returns and videotapes. Aha.
He tries to feed the cat to the

1328
01:28:25.479 --> 01:28:29.239
ati me just like it's like a
square peg in a round hole, right,

1329
01:28:29.359 --> 01:28:31.399
just trying to try to put it
in. When he can't, he

1330
01:28:31.479 --> 01:28:35.560
pulls out a gun and an enormous
gun, points it at the kitten,

1331
01:28:36.279 --> 01:28:40.680
and I was like, oh my
god, I know, I was like,

1332
01:28:40.680 --> 01:28:43.359
oh no, please don't, please
don't, please don't. Just then

1333
01:28:43.399 --> 01:28:46.800
a woman walks by and gasps at
the sight, and Patrick shoots her.

1334
01:28:47.720 --> 01:28:50.920
She dies immediately, but crucially,
he puts the kitten down, and the

1335
01:28:51.000 --> 01:28:54.359
kitten is saying he doesn't even drop
the cat, which the cat, you

1336
01:28:54.399 --> 01:28:57.720
really can't just drop it. He
gently puts it down on the sidewalk,

1337
01:28:57.760 --> 01:29:00.640
and I'm like, you know that
is that's Christian. That's the actor seeping

1338
01:29:00.680 --> 01:29:03.359
through to be like, no,
I can't drop this cat, Like I

1339
01:29:03.359 --> 01:29:06.359
don't care how in character I am. I'm not dropping this cat. A

1340
01:29:06.520 --> 01:29:11.279
police car pulls up and Patrick runs
away, setting off a bunch of car

1341
01:29:11.319 --> 01:29:14.960
alarms in the process. So again
we're a'reun like an empty New York City

1342
01:29:15.039 --> 01:29:17.279
quote unquote street. Yeah, this
is Tribeca, but this is actually Tribeca.

1343
01:29:17.319 --> 01:29:19.920
I recognize the street. You think
it's Tribecca. Yeah. No,

1344
01:29:20.439 --> 01:29:25.319
he passes the Red Street subway station. He passes like businesses that I still

1345
01:29:25.359 --> 01:29:28.840
recognize there. I'm like, oh
my god. So the police catch up

1346
01:29:28.880 --> 01:29:31.079
to him and he has a shootout
with them that results in him killing one

1347
01:29:31.079 --> 01:29:34.960
of the officers and then shooting at
the police car until explodes and in a

1348
01:29:35.039 --> 01:29:42.479
fiery infernoky. Okay, he looks
at his pistol with confusion. How could

1349
01:29:42.560 --> 01:29:45.840
cause so much damage? Yeah,
there's a moment of levity here where he's

1350
01:29:45.880 --> 01:29:48.039
like, wait, huh. Yeah. He runs into an office building and

1351
01:29:48.079 --> 01:29:51.760
he shoots and kills a security guard
in the office building. Then he sees

1352
01:29:51.800 --> 01:29:56.479
a janitor in the hallway, just
kills the janitor for absolutely no reason,

1353
01:29:56.560 --> 01:29:59.119
right, not that there was a
reason to kill anyone else, but the

1354
01:29:59.199 --> 01:30:01.279
janitor wasn't even looking at him.
So after he does these two murders,

1355
01:30:01.319 --> 01:30:05.680
he runs out of that office building
and runs downtown to his office building.

1356
01:30:05.760 --> 01:30:10.239
Right. He stops at the security
desk and there's a security guard there too.

1357
01:30:10.560 --> 01:30:15.239
He reaches into his jacket pocket violently
and pulls out a pen ah,

1358
01:30:15.680 --> 01:30:19.159
and then he just signs in.
He goes up to his office. There's

1359
01:30:19.239 --> 01:30:24.920
police helicopters hovering the scene, right, because like several people have been murdered

1360
01:30:24.960 --> 01:30:29.159
in the last five minutes. Patrick
calls his lawyer. It's like the middle

1361
01:30:29.199 --> 01:30:31.680
of the night. No one answers, and he leaves this frantic, sobbing

1362
01:30:31.840 --> 01:30:36.640
voicemail on the lawyer's machine. He
confesses to killing about twenty to forty people.

1363
01:30:38.039 --> 01:30:41.359
Maybe I couldn't keep track of them
all, and some of them I

1364
01:30:42.479 --> 01:30:45.520
ate their brains. And he seems
even embarrassed about that. Part, he's

1365
01:30:45.520 --> 01:30:47.920
like, I know that's really gross. Then he just starts to laugh hysterically

1366
01:30:47.920 --> 01:30:50.640
as he hears himself, and he's
like, I guess you could say I'm

1367
01:30:50.680 --> 01:30:55.439
just a really sick guy. Anyway, call me when you get this or

1368
01:30:55.520 --> 01:30:59.640
don't. It's fine. I'll be
at Harry's bar tomorrow at Chipriani in case

1369
01:30:59.680 --> 01:31:01.640
you need to reach me, and
he hangs up the phone. The next

1370
01:31:01.760 --> 01:31:05.439
day, he goes to Paul Allen's
apartment. He knows what he's gonna find

1371
01:31:05.439 --> 01:31:09.800
there, but he puts on a
mask and he's anticipating a bunch of decomposing

1372
01:31:09.880 --> 01:31:12.680
corpses that he's gonna have to clean. Yeah, not a mask to cover

1373
01:31:12.760 --> 01:31:15.960
his face, like a literal like
face mask like we all wear during COVID,

1374
01:31:15.000 --> 01:31:17.520
to be like, I don't want
to breathe in whatever's in this apartment.

1375
01:31:17.600 --> 01:31:21.279
Yep. He walks in and he's
shocked to find a clean and completely

1376
01:31:21.319 --> 01:31:26.039
empty apartment. There's a realtor there. This realtor gave a great performance,

1377
01:31:26.199 --> 01:31:30.359
such a good performance. Name is
Patricia Gage. She's showing the apartment to

1378
01:31:30.399 --> 01:31:33.359
a young couple and Patrick's visibly upset, and he asks the realtor if this

1379
01:31:33.399 --> 01:31:38.279
is Paul Allen's apartment and she says
no, and the realtor starts to get

1380
01:31:38.279 --> 01:31:41.520
a bad vibe from him. Right, he is acting all kinds of weird.

1381
01:31:41.680 --> 01:31:43.960
Yeah, And she says, you
have to go. You can leave

1382
01:31:44.000 --> 01:31:46.520
and do not come back. Yeah. He goes to a payphone and he

1383
01:31:46.560 --> 01:31:50.279
calls Jane and he starts sobbing,
and he tells her he doesn't think he's

1384
01:31:50.319 --> 01:31:57.000
gonna make it to the office that
afternoon. Gene asks him what's wrong,

1385
01:31:57.119 --> 01:32:00.520
and he gets hysterical and screams at
her to stop sounding so sad. A

1386
01:32:01.479 --> 01:32:04.840
he hangs up on her, and
she goes into his office and starts looking

1387
01:32:04.880 --> 01:32:10.439
through his desk for some clues as
to what's what is going on. She

1388
01:32:10.520 --> 01:32:14.159
finds his date book and she goes
through it and it has some extremely violent

1389
01:32:14.239 --> 01:32:17.159
drawings of women being tortured and murdered. Some of the images are the you

1390
01:32:17.159 --> 01:32:19.560
know, the ones that we've seen
throughout the movie, the chainsaw through the

1391
01:32:19.560 --> 01:32:23.800
woman and like, there's a picture
of Elizabeth and he actually wrote the name

1392
01:32:23.840 --> 01:32:27.479
Elizabeth, like yeah, but a
drawing of her with like being being murdered.

1393
01:32:27.720 --> 01:32:30.560
Yeah. So this is why I
think the Gene scene is real in

1394
01:32:30.600 --> 01:32:34.159
his apartment. Okay, because this
is the only time in the entire movie

1395
01:32:34.239 --> 01:32:39.560
that we have one character without Patrick. This is entirely from Jean's perspective.

1396
01:32:39.800 --> 01:32:43.800
Oh yeah, and she's finding this
and it's and she starts to freak out,

1397
01:32:43.840 --> 01:32:45.840
like what did I like? What
did I almost step into here?

1398
01:32:46.279 --> 01:32:50.439
So he joins his friends, his
douchebaggery friends for drinks at Harry's bar,

1399
01:32:50.760 --> 01:32:54.720
and he sees his lawyer, Harold
across the room, the guy that he

1400
01:32:54.800 --> 01:32:58.840
called the night before and made that
like long confession to. So he goes

1401
01:32:58.920 --> 01:33:00.399
up to Harold and he's like,
well, did you hear my voicemail?

1402
01:33:00.479 --> 01:33:04.479
And Harold starts to laugh and he's
like, oh, that was the best

1403
01:33:04.680 --> 01:33:10.600
prank voicemail I have ever heard.
It was hilarious. Yeah, and then

1404
01:33:10.760 --> 01:33:15.319
he starts to call Patrick Davis and
he asks about someone named Cynthia. So

1405
01:33:15.359 --> 01:33:19.119
it's another Paul Allen situation where he
doesn't know who he's talking to, yep,

1406
01:33:19.680 --> 01:33:24.840
and he's like that. He's like, your whole prank was so fucking

1407
01:33:24.880 --> 01:33:28.600
good and you were so committed to
it. The one fatal flaw you had

1408
01:33:28.760 --> 01:33:33.439
is no one would believe that dork
Patrick Bateman would murder anyone, much less

1409
01:33:33.479 --> 01:33:38.159
forty people. And Patrick gets very
serious and he's like, no, no,

1410
01:33:38.560 --> 01:33:43.399
I'm met Patrick Bateman, and I
murdered Paul Allen. And then Harold

1411
01:33:43.600 --> 01:33:45.119
gets very serious and he's like,
Okay, look, I don't like this

1412
01:33:45.239 --> 01:33:48.119
joke anymore. This, this is
not funny. This is my line.

1413
01:33:48.399 --> 01:33:51.680
Yeah. The first thing that was
funny. Yeah, the voice message at

1414
01:33:51.680 --> 01:33:55.840
three in the morning, when you're
coked out of your brain, probably like

1415
01:33:56.239 --> 01:34:00.640
and like pretending to confess to murder
hysterical. Yeah, we're gonna play that

1416
01:34:00.680 --> 01:34:04.520
at the office Christmas party. Now
you're acting fucking week. Now you're interfering

1417
01:34:04.560 --> 01:34:09.079
with my day. Yeah. Now
this, Martine isn't going down so smooth

1418
01:34:09.199 --> 01:34:13.479
because you're harshing the vibe. Patrick's
like, no, this is not a

1419
01:34:13.560 --> 01:34:15.319
joke. You have to take me
seriously. You're my lawyer. And Harold's

1420
01:34:15.319 --> 01:34:20.680
like, it is impossible for you
to have killed Paul Allen because I saw

1421
01:34:20.720 --> 01:34:25.520
Paul Allen a few days ago in
London. I had dinner with him twice.

1422
01:34:25.680 --> 01:34:30.039
He is very much alive. And
he just walks away and Patrick is

1423
01:34:30.520 --> 01:34:34.399
stunned, and then he rejoins his
friends. He walks back over to his

1424
01:34:34.399 --> 01:34:39.119
friends and he sits down and crucially, his friends call him Bateman. I

1425
01:34:39.199 --> 01:34:42.199
noticed that because I was now waiting
for the movie to be like, they're

1426
01:34:42.239 --> 01:34:44.960
gonna start calling him Davis, yeah
or some shit, but no, he's

1427
01:34:45.000 --> 01:34:47.800
Patrick Bateman to them. And I'm
thinking about this right now. This movie

1428
01:34:47.800 --> 01:34:55.399
could almost support a reveal of that
Christian Bale does not look like Christian Bale

1429
01:34:55.439 --> 01:34:59.800
in this movie, yes, but
that he is a Lewis Carruthers like Lewis,

1430
01:34:59.840 --> 01:35:04.359
like Lewis and Kim are fight clubbing
some hundred percent right, that he's

1431
01:35:04.479 --> 01:35:09.920
the pitiful one and his ID or
ego or whatever. I don't know those

1432
01:35:09.920 --> 01:35:15.960
fucking terms, but like the Christian
Bale character or form is the dream.

1433
01:35:15.520 --> 01:35:18.600
It's what he yeah, or what
even what he sees himself as maybe he

1434
01:35:18.640 --> 01:35:24.760
actually believes it, yeah, and
everyone being like Patrick Bateman is a spineless

1435
01:35:25.039 --> 01:35:28.520
loser, which he is, to
be clear, but doesn't look that.

1436
01:35:28.680 --> 01:35:30.960
But it doesn't look that way,
but maybe he act like The movie could

1437
01:35:30.960 --> 01:35:33.840
support it if suddenly like he went
back and like Christian Bale was not there

1438
01:35:33.880 --> 01:35:36.239
anymore, and it was like he
looked himself in the mirror yeah, and

1439
01:35:36.239 --> 01:35:40.840
it's a different actor playing the character
or something, or he's different face in

1440
01:35:40.840 --> 01:35:44.520
the mirror. I will talk about
it in random observations. There is something

1441
01:35:44.560 --> 01:35:47.000
in the movie that definitely supports that
theory. Okay, we'll talk about it

1442
01:35:47.079 --> 01:35:50.119
later. But like, I think
so. Also, I think the facade

1443
01:35:50.199 --> 01:35:55.720
he's putting on for the world to
fit in, like fit in, I

1444
01:35:55.800 --> 01:35:59.600
need to fit in is kind of
this spineless dork. It's almost like Superman

1445
01:35:59.680 --> 01:36:03.439
and clor kn't write like he's Clark
kenting it to be normal quote unquote normal,

1446
01:36:03.680 --> 01:36:08.000
and he's overdone it, and so
everyone around him thinks he's this spineless

1447
01:36:08.039 --> 01:36:11.199
dork, even if he looks like
he's the one who says we shouldn't make

1448
01:36:11.199 --> 01:36:15.079
anti submitic comments about Paul Allen.
What a spineless dork, What a spineless

1449
01:36:15.079 --> 01:36:17.079
dork. He's the one that's like, we should talk about apartheid or you

1450
01:36:17.079 --> 01:36:20.600
know, shit like that, which
to these people means like, h shut

1451
01:36:20.680 --> 01:36:24.079
up. To be fair, someone
at a dinner party was like, we

1452
01:36:24.119 --> 01:36:28.560
should talk about apartheid. I'd be
like, for real, are you sure?

1453
01:36:29.239 --> 01:36:33.560
Can't we talk about Green's anatomy instead, So he rejoins his friends they're

1454
01:36:33.600 --> 01:36:38.840
watching Reagan give a press conference about
Iran Contra and they're all talking about what

1455
01:36:38.880 --> 01:36:42.720
a shithead and liar Reagan is,
which I found very amusing me too.

1456
01:36:43.079 --> 01:36:46.520
He takes in the scene of what
just happened and he starts to loudly laugh,

1457
01:36:46.840 --> 01:36:51.079
like hysterically at nothing, and his
friends all look at him and they're

1458
01:36:51.079 --> 01:36:54.680
like, are you okay, And
he's like, I'm just a happy camper,

1459
01:36:54.720 --> 01:36:59.239
Timothy, everything is great. And
they all kind of roll their eyes

1460
01:36:59.279 --> 01:37:02.840
at him and continue to talk about
dinner reservations over his whatever whatever spell he's

1461
01:37:02.920 --> 01:37:08.720
under, Yeah, just ignoring it. As Patrick surveys the crowded bar we

1462
01:37:08.800 --> 01:37:13.359
hear invoice over his thoughts. There
are no more barriers to cross. All

1463
01:37:13.399 --> 01:37:16.359
I have in common with the uncontrollable
and the insane, the vicious and the

1464
01:37:16.439 --> 01:37:20.159
evil, all the mayhem I have
caused, and my utter indifference toward it,

1465
01:37:20.359 --> 01:37:26.920
I have now surpassed what. My
pain is constant and sharp, and

1466
01:37:26.960 --> 01:37:30.399
I do not hope for a better
world for anyone. In fact, I

1467
01:37:30.439 --> 01:37:33.359
want my pain to be inflicted on
others. I want no one to escape.

1468
01:37:33.600 --> 01:37:39.159
But even after admitting this, there
is no catharsis my punishment continues to

1469
01:37:39.239 --> 01:37:44.119
elude me, and I gain no
deeper knowledge of myself. No new knowledge

1470
01:37:44.159 --> 01:37:48.600
can be extracted from my telling.
This confession has meant nothing, and the

1471
01:37:48.640 --> 01:37:53.720
movie ends with a close up of
his like deadened eyes as we hear this

1472
01:37:54.000 --> 01:37:58.239
weird end of movie monologue as I'm
so relieved that you didn't get it either.

1473
01:37:59.079 --> 01:38:00.960
I listened to it twice and I
was like, I don't, huh

1474
01:38:01.000 --> 01:38:04.920
what. There's a sign above his
head that says this is not an exit.

1475
01:38:05.199 --> 01:38:09.319
Yeah, like literally, and it
is not like a oh look,

1476
01:38:09.399 --> 01:38:11.640
this is fun. Let's put this
in the shot I checked. That's in

1477
01:38:11.680 --> 01:38:15.399
the book. So like that.
There's a very clear metaphor literally right over

1478
01:38:15.439 --> 01:38:18.439
his head that says, this is
not an exit. We did not need

1479
01:38:18.439 --> 01:38:25.800
this monologue, this weird, baroque
overwritten monologue. My punishment continues to elude

1480
01:38:25.800 --> 01:38:29.680
me, and I gain no deeper
knowledge of myself. It's like, maybe

1481
01:38:29.720 --> 01:38:33.079
Anthony Hopkins could have made this word, maybe as as Hannibal Lecter, the

1482
01:38:33.119 --> 01:38:36.199
only only actor in character I could
think of. No one can make this

1483
01:38:36.279 --> 01:38:40.800
word salad mean something. I have
read it, I have listened to it.

1484
01:38:40.800 --> 01:38:44.000
It means nothing. It is so
anyway I put it all in here

1485
01:38:44.000 --> 01:38:46.720
because I was this is my one
like huge flaw with the movie. Okay,

1486
01:38:46.720 --> 01:38:51.760
I absolutely hate the ending. Okay, fair enough, and that is

1487
01:38:51.800 --> 01:38:55.960
the end of American Psycho. I
survived, Erek, Aren't you proud of

1488
01:38:55.960 --> 01:38:59.239
me? That kitten survived. That
kitt survived. That was That was it.

1489
01:38:59.239 --> 01:39:00.199
It was touch and go for a
minute. I was real worried,

1490
01:39:00.199 --> 01:39:04.760
Paul. I was real worried this
was not gonna happen. So stick around.

1491
01:39:04.800 --> 01:39:16.560
We'll be right back to take you
through our random observations and final rankings.

1492
01:39:17.199 --> 01:39:21.439
And we're back, Erica. Do
you have any random observations on American

1493
01:39:21.600 --> 01:39:28.199
Psycho? Okay, so remember you
were saying that there's a it supports the

1494
01:39:28.199 --> 01:39:32.239
theory that Patrick Bateman doesn't look like
Christian Bale in his own mind. This

1495
01:39:32.319 --> 01:39:35.680
is funny because I don't think the
movie knew at the time that Jared Leto

1496
01:39:35.800 --> 01:39:40.840
was going to become hugely famous,
right, And so like the very very

1497
01:39:40.880 --> 01:39:44.800
beginning of the movie, when they
see Paul Allen across the restaurant. I

1498
01:39:44.800 --> 01:39:46.600
don't know if you notice this because
it happens very quickly, and of course

1499
01:39:46.640 --> 01:39:50.039
you don't know yet because you just
started watching the movie. That Paul Allen

1500
01:39:50.039 --> 01:39:54.079
will later be played by Christian Bale. I definitely didn't notice this because I

1501
01:39:54.079 --> 01:39:56.560
don't know what you're leading towards.
So at the very beginning of the movie,

1502
01:39:56.600 --> 01:39:59.560
they're like, when he's saying all
these anti semitic things about Paul Allen,

1503
01:39:59.640 --> 01:40:01.279
right, yeah, they're like,
that's Paul Allen over there. They

1504
01:40:01.319 --> 01:40:06.600
cut to this guy at a table
that is absolutely not Jared Leto, not

1505
01:40:06.680 --> 01:40:13.119
Jared Letto. So I think in
Patrick's mind, Paul Allen looks like Jared

1506
01:40:13.199 --> 01:40:16.239
Letto because Jared Leto's like as attractive
as Christian Bale. Sure, right,

1507
01:40:16.319 --> 01:40:19.760
Like all the other guys are attractive. They're famous actors now, right,

1508
01:40:19.800 --> 01:40:24.920
but like everyone's a like slightly more
normal version of attractive. Yeah, and

1509
01:40:24.960 --> 01:40:28.520
then these two are just like next
level good looking. And I think that's

1510
01:40:28.520 --> 01:40:31.359
because in his head, Paul Allen
has to look like someone like Jared Letto.

1511
01:40:31.600 --> 01:40:34.560
It doesn't make any other sense Otherwise, Paul Allen can't just be some

1512
01:40:34.720 --> 01:40:40.439
random guy who makes more money than
he can gives me slub exactly on the

1513
01:40:40.439 --> 01:40:44.159
street. Is that? Like when
you rewatch that first scene, you'll notice

1514
01:40:44.199 --> 01:40:47.880
they cut to a guy and only
and you only notice it really because Jared

1515
01:40:47.920 --> 01:40:50.239
Leto's so famous, and I'm like, well, that's not Jared Letto.

1516
01:40:50.439 --> 01:40:54.319
I know what he looks like.
I know Jared Letto, You, sir,

1517
01:40:54.359 --> 01:40:56.960
are know Jared Letto. Look,
that is not the man I follow

1518
01:40:57.039 --> 01:41:00.359
down the street the other day.
Never mind, moving on on. Uh,

1519
01:41:00.399 --> 01:41:04.359
there's this line in the beginning,
the three douche Bros, the Douche

1520
01:41:04.359 --> 01:41:10.079
triplets, uh, the asshole fuckery, Yeah triplets. Yeah, they're sitting

1521
01:41:10.159 --> 01:41:14.399
there and they're talking about reservations and
they say they can't get a reservation somewhere

1522
01:41:14.520 --> 01:41:18.399
because Bateman won't give the matre D
head. Oh yeah. The use of

1523
01:41:18.439 --> 01:41:24.960
the term head as like blow jobs
or oral sex of any kind is so

1524
01:41:25.159 --> 01:41:31.680
funny. I don't know why,
but the phrase because Bateman won't give the

1525
01:41:31.720 --> 01:41:36.840
matre D head tickled me. Tickled
me pink. Why do we call it

1526
01:41:36.880 --> 01:41:41.840
head? Why don't we call it
mouth? Exactly? We should, as

1527
01:41:41.840 --> 01:41:45.840
a society just all agree that it's
really mouth, because head implies you're doing

1528
01:41:45.880 --> 01:41:48.680
other stuff. Yeah, the head
has options. I don't like any of

1529
01:41:48.680 --> 01:41:51.760
those options. I'm being very clear
right now. I do not I do

1530
01:41:51.840 --> 01:41:55.880
not advocate any of those options.
Don't put it in your eye. Yeah,

1531
01:41:55.880 --> 01:41:57.880
you don't want to come up your
nose, do not, don't put

1532
01:41:57.920 --> 01:42:00.680
don't don't don't put your nose in
my in my watch. I don't want

1533
01:42:00.680 --> 01:42:02.319
it. Thank you, smell bleach
for a week, please and thank you.

1534
01:42:04.199 --> 01:42:06.680
I don't need you. I don't
need your your snott in my snooch.

1535
01:42:06.920 --> 01:42:12.720
I believe the Italian slang is a
little mouth. See, there you

1536
01:42:12.800 --> 01:42:16.079
go. I think Americans are doing
it wrong. I'm not surprised the first

1537
01:42:16.119 --> 01:42:23.600
time. We are. We are
a puritanical society after all. So there's

1538
01:42:23.680 --> 01:42:25.720
there's a couple of things in the
movie. I just want to call out.

1539
01:42:25.760 --> 01:42:29.119
There's he he will, we will
cut to Patrick in his apartment just

1540
01:42:29.199 --> 01:42:35.079
casually watching something kind of horrific or
like weird while he's doing something else and

1541
01:42:35.119 --> 01:42:39.039
not really paying attention to it.
So like at one point he's doing crunch

1542
01:42:39.199 --> 01:42:43.399
like his one thousand crunches while watching
Texas Chainsaw Massacre, or it's on in

1543
01:42:43.439 --> 01:42:46.319
the background while he's doing his his
morning routine. Ambient noise. Yeah,

1544
01:42:46.319 --> 01:42:49.239
which is again why the chainsaw comes
in later in the movie. Right,

1545
01:42:49.279 --> 01:42:54.319
it's like a shot for shot almost
moment from Texas chainsaw massacre. But there's

1546
01:42:54.359 --> 01:42:59.600
also like Inside Lydia's Ass, the
ambient porn he's watching while he's on the

1547
01:42:59.640 --> 01:43:02.520
phone with Evelyn. He took Brian
ENO's invention and he made it better.

1548
01:43:02.760 --> 01:43:09.880
It's so weird. But then there's
there's a threesome scene inside inside Lydia's asked.

1549
01:43:09.880 --> 01:43:12.279
Look, I don't want to spoil
it if you've never seen Inside Lydia's

1550
01:43:12.279 --> 01:43:15.600
Ass, but there is a threesome
scene. It is riveted. I'm not

1551
01:43:15.680 --> 01:43:20.239
going to tell anyone about Inside Lydy's
ask two. Oh, still, I'm

1552
01:43:20.279 --> 01:43:25.560
still inside, Still Inside, Inside
for the winter. I you know,

1553
01:43:25.880 --> 01:43:28.279
it's one of those things. But
I don't think they needed a sequel like

1554
01:43:28.439 --> 01:43:30.560
I think, because it's all the
same scenes, just elevated, elevated.

1555
01:43:30.600 --> 01:43:34.640
But I'll tell you one thing.
Inside Lydia's asked for the twists, and

1556
01:43:34.680 --> 01:43:38.720
that that say, Now, they
got a new writer and a new director

1557
01:43:38.760 --> 01:43:41.840
on that one, right, Same
Lydia, Same Lydia, and they changed

1558
01:43:41.880 --> 01:43:46.800
the genre. It is still hardcore
pornography, but it is also a driver's

1559
01:43:46.880 --> 01:43:50.600
ed video. Yeah, fascinating,
fascinating. They've never had a group of

1560
01:43:50.640 --> 01:43:55.439
sixteen year old boys learn more in
Driver's ed the things Lydia can do with

1561
01:43:55.479 --> 01:44:05.880
a stick shift revolutionary read she slaid
the house down boots. Wait, why

1562
01:44:05.880 --> 01:44:10.159
did I bring this up? Because
it's it's just weird that, like I

1563
01:44:10.239 --> 01:44:13.680
bet, ambient porn seemed a lot
weirder in two thousand than it does now.

1564
01:44:14.840 --> 01:44:16.279
But the idea that someone's just sitting
in their house, like, first

1565
01:44:16.279 --> 01:44:19.800
of all, he rented those tapes. He there's a Kim's video in that

1566
01:44:19.800 --> 01:44:25.920
neighborhood has the most upsetting list of
movies for Patrick Bateman. Have you ever

1567
01:44:25.960 --> 01:44:28.159
been at someone says you know,
you used had those things where like your

1568
01:44:28.199 --> 01:44:34.239
screensaver be your photos and every a
while, let's get a dick. No,

1569
01:44:34.319 --> 01:44:36.399
he is Honestly, the last time
I saw one of those it was

1570
01:44:36.439 --> 01:44:40.680
on my mom's computer. So no
that so if it's a dick, I

1571
01:44:40.720 --> 01:44:45.479
don't want to see it. I
don't need to see it. I just

1572
01:44:45.479 --> 01:44:47.359
have one more and you cut the
scene out of the recap, which is

1573
01:44:47.479 --> 01:44:51.520
fair. It doesn't it doesn't matter. But Courtney, who is Lewis's girlfriend,

1574
01:44:51.720 --> 01:45:00.319
Patrick's drugged update from the Samantha mathis
she has one scene where she like

1575
01:45:00.359 --> 01:45:03.439
she and Patrick have sex and then
afterwards he's getting dressed, and it seemed

1576
01:45:03.479 --> 01:45:09.279
to me that she is basically saying
goodbye because she's planning on dying by suicide.

1577
01:45:09.279 --> 01:45:11.359
So yeah, I think so too. Yeah, And like it seemed

1578
01:45:11.880 --> 01:45:15.680
abundantly clear, and the scene's just
kind of there. She's to be clear,

1579
01:45:15.880 --> 01:45:20.479
fantastic in it. I don't know
why the scene is there except maybe

1580
01:45:20.479 --> 01:45:27.520
for Samantha mathis to be like extremely
depressing and to show him not notice.

1581
01:45:28.000 --> 01:45:30.000
Yeah, I think that's what it
is. Yeah, but it's it's just

1582
01:45:30.199 --> 01:45:32.680
I just wanted to shout it out. Yeah, Yeah, I think that's

1583
01:45:32.680 --> 01:45:35.760
what it is. It's someone actually
trying to make a human connection with him

1584
01:45:35.760 --> 01:45:40.640
and he just can't he can't recognize
it. I just have one more and

1585
01:45:40.800 --> 01:45:43.560
was one of my favorite lines in
the movie, and it belongs to Dick

1586
01:45:43.680 --> 01:45:45.560
Van Patten, the friend that we
never really talk about. Yeah, Bill

1587
01:45:45.640 --> 01:45:48.920
Sage. Bill Sage in the very
beginning of the movie, he just walks

1588
01:45:48.960 --> 01:45:51.760
back into the scene like he's gone
from the scene and he walks back in

1589
01:45:51.760 --> 01:45:57.119
and he goes, that is not
a good bathroom to do cocin. Everything

1590
01:45:57.159 --> 01:46:00.239
about that line is amazing, fantastic. Did they just drop it after that

1591
01:46:00.319 --> 01:46:03.159
no one, no one even pays
attention like that is not a good bathroom

1592
01:46:03.279 --> 01:46:06.079
do cocin Boo boo. I'm gonna
give it a zero rating. On the

1593
01:46:06.159 --> 01:46:12.000
cats bathrooms to do cocaine guide,
What would make a good bathroom? Do

1594
01:46:12.079 --> 01:46:15.439
cocain hand mirrors? Yeah? If
John Mulaney's last stand up specialist to be

1595
01:46:15.439 --> 01:46:17.199
believed, a lot of flat surfaces. Okay, you want a lot of

1596
01:46:17.279 --> 01:46:23.840
flat surfaces to do cocon All right, Paul, how shall we rank this

1597
01:46:23.960 --> 01:46:29.439
film one to ten? You won't
believe the band ub forty? Aha?

1598
01:46:30.800 --> 01:46:38.479
Red Red Wine is such an important
song about Vintner's Yes, absolutely. You

1599
01:46:38.479 --> 01:46:44.239
know what band is amazing? Ario
Speedwagon. Have you heard keep On Loving

1600
01:46:44.239 --> 01:46:47.960
You from their nineteen eighty album High
Fidelity. It will change your entire life

1601
01:46:48.000 --> 01:46:55.039
outlook on loving other people. The
greatest vocalists of the eighties are Milli vanilli

1602
01:46:55.399 --> 01:47:00.520
Ha. Have you listened to Air
Supplies Making Love out of Nothing at All?

1603
01:47:00.640 --> 01:47:04.640
From their nineteen eighty three self titled
album It is life changing? You

1604
01:47:04.640 --> 01:47:10.479
know what My favorite song is Charlene's
I've Never Been to Me because when she

1605
01:47:10.560 --> 01:47:14.319
says I've been to Paradise, but
I've never been to me. It makes

1606
01:47:14.359 --> 01:47:17.319
me think about how the fact is
I've never been to me because I am

1607
01:47:17.319 --> 01:47:25.640
not a geographical place. Also,
I am paradise one to ten, raw

1608
01:47:25.680 --> 01:47:30.239
dogging, raw poultry. Oh yeah, there's this. There's a movie where

1609
01:47:30.840 --> 01:47:34.039
Melissa McCarthy and Octavia Spencer play superheroes. It's on Netflix. It's not good.

1610
01:47:34.199 --> 01:47:38.560
Okay, it is bad. There's
a runner in the movie where the

1611
01:47:38.680 --> 01:47:42.199
way they get their superhero powers or
like causing them to eat raw chicken.

1612
01:47:42.960 --> 01:47:48.199
It is the most stomach turning failure
of a joke ever seen. It is

1613
01:47:49.079 --> 01:47:54.319
repulsive because they obviously fake chicken breasts, but they're like, oh oh,

1614
01:47:54.359 --> 01:48:00.600
but even thinking about it, my
stomach is churning. Eugh. You know

1615
01:48:00.640 --> 01:48:02.359
what, I want my partridge to
be extra rare. You know what,

1616
01:48:02.399 --> 01:48:09.119
I want my squab to be bloody. One to ten cocks on peacock or

1617
01:48:09.199 --> 01:48:11.960
cox not on peacock. Yeah,
where's you cock? Christian? Hey,

1618
01:48:12.039 --> 01:48:15.000
hey, Christian, show us your
cock man. You owe us this much.

1619
01:48:15.880 --> 01:48:16.920
I lived through this and I got
no dick at it. I feel

1620
01:48:16.920 --> 01:48:20.159
like he would if we asked,
Oh yes, nice, Absolutely, he

1621
01:48:20.199 --> 01:48:24.880
seems like he seems like he's up
for anything. I like this rip it

1622
01:48:24.920 --> 01:48:27.600
out? You like this one?
I like this one tail yeah, like

1623
01:48:27.760 --> 01:48:30.399
cox on Peacock. Do you want
to go first or shall I go first?

1624
01:48:30.520 --> 01:48:31.640
I'll go first? Okay, go
for it, because I was actually

1625
01:48:31.680 --> 01:48:35.960
excited to talk about this movie fair
in terms of how it ages. It

1626
01:48:36.000 --> 01:48:40.079
ages really well in a way,
almost better than it is a movie.

1627
01:48:40.199 --> 01:48:43.319
Does that make sense? So,
like as a movie, I have some

1628
01:48:43.479 --> 01:48:45.920
notes, like I wish it could
be a little bit better. I get

1629
01:48:45.960 --> 01:48:48.439
it, like the source material is
what it is. Yeah, so they

1630
01:48:48.479 --> 01:48:53.800
can't quite change, Like they can't
quite change that, like ha ha,

1631
01:48:54.159 --> 01:48:57.479
ending that the movie that the book
must have that the movie now has.

1632
01:48:57.960 --> 01:49:01.840
But even my issues with the movie, like it does so much. It's

1633
01:49:01.880 --> 01:49:06.199
so smart. Even the idea of
like all the all the people who are

1634
01:49:06.199 --> 01:49:10.279
not part of this world are going
to be people of color. I could

1635
01:49:10.319 --> 01:49:12.880
see how some people would that would
rub them the wrong way. But it's

1636
01:49:12.920 --> 01:49:16.720
such an obvious point to me that
like it's kind of subtextual, you know,

1637
01:49:16.840 --> 01:49:19.319
it's not they don't hit you on
the head with it. They do

1638
01:49:19.399 --> 01:49:23.680
hit you on the head with the
misogyny. Yeah, but they kind of

1639
01:49:23.720 --> 01:49:27.199
have to otherwise it doesn't justify like
all the violence to women that we see

1640
01:49:27.239 --> 01:49:30.680
in the movie, right, and
I do think them pushing it that far

1641
01:49:30.760 --> 01:49:35.640
has allowed the satire to remain a
satire as we have learned more and more

1642
01:49:35.680 --> 01:49:41.000
about the things that people say,
yeah, think and feel, Yeah,

1643
01:49:41.039 --> 01:49:45.079
grab by the pussy Paul, Yeah
exactly. So please vote if you're listening

1644
01:49:45.079 --> 01:49:47.439
to this the United States and in
November, please please, please, please

1645
01:49:47.479 --> 01:49:51.439
please vote. It actually does pass
the Bechdel test. The scene with Elizabeth,

1646
01:49:51.479 --> 01:49:55.199
which is funny because it's the writer
of the movie the scene. I

1647
01:49:55.199 --> 01:49:58.840
wonder she was like, we have
to put one scene where two women talk

1648
01:49:58.880 --> 01:50:01.880
to each other. It's see with
Elizabeth and Christy. It's not much.

1649
01:50:02.079 --> 01:50:05.840
It's crumbs, I will admit that. But but the film is such a

1650
01:50:05.920 --> 01:50:10.840
like it's told from one person's perspective, except for that one scene that we

1651
01:50:10.880 --> 01:50:15.239
get of genes at the very end, So it passes the Bechdel test.

1652
01:50:15.399 --> 01:50:18.800
It is not that diverse, but
the diversity that is in the film is

1653
01:50:19.039 --> 01:50:23.319
very pointed and makes a lot of
sense. Yep, I'm gonna give it

1654
01:50:23.319 --> 01:50:27.760
an eight out of ten. Cox
On Peacock also the female director noness of

1655
01:50:27.800 --> 01:50:32.359
it all, like the gaze that
we get on Christian Bale at the beginning

1656
01:50:32.359 --> 01:50:35.399
of the movie is I don't think
it's accidental. I think it is very

1657
01:50:35.439 --> 01:50:40.720
sexualized. It's very like almost like
a romantic at first, to try to

1658
01:50:40.760 --> 01:50:43.399
get us to like fall in love
with this character a little bit before he

1659
01:50:43.479 --> 01:50:45.920
turns into a fucking psycho. And
I think also the pulling back of the

1660
01:50:46.039 --> 01:50:49.279
violence. Maybe a male director would
have done that as well. I don't

1661
01:50:49.279 --> 01:50:56.760
know if Oliver Stone would have,
but kind of one hundred percent, but

1662
01:50:56.840 --> 01:51:00.399
I think there. I think the
fact that that two women got their hands

1663
01:51:00.399 --> 01:51:04.119
on this script and a woman directed
it really cranked the satire up to eleven

1664
01:51:04.199 --> 01:51:10.680
and turned the violence and the and
the like inadvertent misogyny down all the way.

1665
01:51:11.239 --> 01:51:14.800
So I think it ages very very
well. It may not be people's

1666
01:51:14.800 --> 01:51:17.560
cup of tea. It also,
I like I said before, kind of

1667
01:51:17.800 --> 01:51:20.920
just stops. Doesn't even end.
It just stops, and I'm like,

1668
01:51:21.000 --> 01:51:25.239
uh huh. So it's not not
a perfect movie. But if you want

1669
01:51:25.279 --> 01:51:29.000
to see a really good performance,
if you want to hear some really funny

1670
01:51:29.000 --> 01:51:31.359
dialogue, if you want to if
you want to have like make fun of

1671
01:51:31.399 --> 01:51:36.359
like like restaurant dining out culture,
this is your movie totally, how about

1672
01:51:36.359 --> 01:51:40.399
you, Paul, Yeah, I
agree with what you're saying, Like I

1673
01:51:40.439 --> 01:51:45.000
think I think you're right. It
kind of aged interestingly into something perhaps even

1674
01:51:45.039 --> 01:51:49.840
more trenchant now. Or why because
Patrick Bateman was president for a while,

1675
01:51:49.399 --> 01:51:55.319
Because we got fucking Patrick Bateman,
someone who failed up so hard they managed

1676
01:51:55.319 --> 01:52:00.239
to become president. Yeah, kind
of. Yeah. As far as like

1677
01:52:00.279 --> 01:52:02.279
the gay stuff in the movie goes, I read somewhere that people were like

1678
01:52:02.600 --> 01:52:05.920
upset that, like Patrick Bateman was
homophobic, and I'm like, for real,

1679
01:52:06.079 --> 01:52:10.039
for real, Like, for a
he's a serial killer, so we

1680
01:52:10.079 --> 01:52:14.479
don't need them on our side,
and like, of course it's nineteen eighty

1681
01:52:14.479 --> 01:52:17.720
seven and he's a stockbroker, Like
come on, obviously this guy would be

1682
01:52:17.760 --> 01:52:21.000
homophobic, you know. And and
again the Lewis Caruthers, I said,

1683
01:52:21.039 --> 01:52:26.399
I'm not offended. I'm just confused. It's so much and I get they

1684
01:52:26.640 --> 01:52:29.680
just wanted a big, over the
top, stereotypical gay performance, but like

1685
01:52:30.439 --> 01:52:34.800
the costume choices and like everything about
it, it's not that stereotypically gay to

1686
01:52:34.880 --> 01:52:39.199
me. It also is it's more
nerdy. It's nerd. It's a nerd

1687
01:52:39.239 --> 01:52:42.399
who happens to be gay. Yeah, maybe they Maybe they were trying to

1688
01:52:42.720 --> 01:52:45.319
make the gay twist a surprise by
making it so nerdy. I think because

1689
01:52:45.319 --> 01:52:48.880
it's worked on me. I'll be
honest, because I wasn't getting gay right

1690
01:52:48.920 --> 01:52:53.079
away. Yeah, you get it
eventually, but I was more getting like

1691
01:52:53.119 --> 01:52:57.319
sycophantic nerd. Yeah. I'm fine
with all of it. It's not my

1692
01:52:57.399 --> 01:52:59.479
movie, like you say, it's
not everyone's cup of tea, not really

1693
01:52:59.520 --> 01:53:03.640
my cup of But I was never
bored, and I certainly do respect like

1694
01:53:03.880 --> 01:53:09.279
the fact that it has an artistic
vision without a doubt like yeah, and

1695
01:53:09.439 --> 01:53:11.720
I guess if I had a critique
for it, I would I would say

1696
01:53:11.720 --> 01:53:17.479
it gets repetitive and agreed, and
there was a point where the escalating insanity

1697
01:53:18.159 --> 01:53:21.960
had diminishing returns for me. You
give it an eight, Yeah, I'll

1698
01:53:21.960 --> 01:53:25.800
give it an eight. I'll give
it an eight out of ten cocks on

1699
01:53:25.840 --> 01:53:30.199
peacock that I hope to be graced
with soon. I will I ever watch

1700
01:53:30.279 --> 01:53:33.119
it again? No, well,
I feel the need to offer a palate

1701
01:53:33.119 --> 01:53:36.880
cleanser. Also, no, if
this is this is something you're interested in

1702
01:53:36.920 --> 01:53:41.880
watching, Godspeed, it is certainly
an interesting movie that you can think a

1703
01:53:41.880 --> 01:53:44.479
lot about. And have lots of
opinions on and if it is not your

1704
01:53:44.479 --> 01:53:45.760
thing, you should not watch it. You know what actually would be a

1705
01:53:45.760 --> 01:53:49.560
decent palate cleanser if you don't want
to watch something quite this violent is the

1706
01:53:49.600 --> 01:53:53.239
Menu. Oh yeah, that movie
that came out with like a year or

1707
01:53:53.279 --> 01:53:55.359
two ago, year or two ago, yeah, yeah, with Anya Taylor,

1708
01:53:55.439 --> 01:53:59.600
Joy Ray Fines. It's it's on
streaming services right now. I know

1709
01:53:59.640 --> 01:54:03.439
of that for fact, and it's
about it's about like an ultra exclusive like

1710
01:54:03.439 --> 01:54:08.119
like restaurant. Yeah, and you
know what, I don't even want to

1711
01:54:08.119 --> 01:54:11.439
go any further. It's just very
funny. Yeah, all right, So

1712
01:54:11.600 --> 01:54:15.079
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1720
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1722
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1723
01:54:48.920 --> 01:54:53.880
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1724
01:54:54.000 --> 01:54:58.760
Jen Desiree, and all of our
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1725
01:54:58.840 --> 01:55:00.520
some of you really were pulling for
Billy Madison. Yeah, we'll cover it

1726
01:55:00.560 --> 01:55:05.039
another time. I will get Madison. At some point you will get Madison.

1727
01:55:05.159 --> 01:55:09.640
And when that happens, the question
will arise, which was better Billy

1728
01:55:09.680 --> 01:55:14.880
Madison or American Psycho American psych And
I'm fairly certain the answer will be Americans.

1729
01:55:14.920 --> 01:55:16.159
I would guess even fans of Billy
Madison be like, no, American

1730
01:55:16.159 --> 01:55:19.880
Psycho is a better movie. Ah. If you want to have a say

1731
01:55:19.880 --> 01:55:23.680
in the topics we discussed, listen. If you were pulling for Billy Madison

1732
01:55:23.720 --> 01:55:27.000
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1733
01:55:27.239 --> 01:55:30.279
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1734
01:55:30.399 --> 01:55:34.960
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1735
01:55:35.000 --> 01:55:40.159
come with things from a podcast character, and today we're hearing from the one,

1736
01:55:40.560 --> 01:55:45.279
the only, the iconic, Miss
Piggy m Hello, Hello, Hello.

1737
01:55:45.920 --> 01:55:49.279
That reminds me. Can you believe
that MOI has never been a guest

1738
01:55:49.359 --> 01:55:54.640
judge on RuPaul's drag Race, though, of course Michelle Dessage has hated me

1739
01:55:54.680 --> 01:55:58.520
ever since I suggested that the label
throw her out of seduction, give her

1740
01:55:58.520 --> 01:56:02.960
place to a certain seal skin sow. What is here to say mercy to

1741
01:56:03.159 --> 01:56:10.760
Mindy who has so many nicknames?
Mi no Mi min Zippy p Tasty dapple

1742
01:56:11.359 --> 01:56:14.800
Mare took a tasty dapple once it
was right into a shrimp cocktail pyramid of

1743
01:56:14.840 --> 01:56:18.159
the lobby of the Waldorf story.
I was there to propose the Seduction's label

1744
01:56:18.359 --> 01:56:23.560
that they throw Michelle Vissage out and
let more take over. And perhaps if

1745
01:56:23.600 --> 01:56:28.159
they had listened instead of being distracted
by the cocktail sauce in my tick Alettage,

1746
01:56:28.760 --> 01:56:32.600
Seduction would have had a longer shelf
life. But alas Michel, can't

1747
01:56:32.600 --> 01:56:36.800
we let bygones be bygones. Don't
you remember the time we went through Katy

1748
01:56:36.920 --> 01:56:41.920
Lang's trash to find proof that she
is a heterosexual, or the time we

1749
01:56:42.000 --> 01:56:45.920
planted a story about Amy Grant being
a secret atheist. Those were good times,

1750
01:56:46.000 --> 01:56:49.680
Michel, and we can have them
again. More is ready to accept

1751
01:56:49.680 --> 01:56:54.720
your apology whenever you are ready to
give it. But until then, I

1752
01:56:54.760 --> 01:56:58.279
say thank you to Mindy for being
a patron of that age. Dwell,

1753
01:56:58.840 --> 01:57:02.279
farewell, my sweetings. I would
love to know what proof they found on

1754
01:57:02.359 --> 01:57:06.159
Katie Lang. I know what did
they find that was? What is the

1755
01:57:06.199 --> 01:57:11.359
heterosexual thing that she had in her? Is it a subscription to Real Simple

1756
01:57:11.399 --> 01:57:16.680
magazine? Is that what she had? I don't know what that is.

1757
01:57:18.880 --> 01:57:24.920
Every woman got that joke, None
of them en did Paradox. I do

1758
01:57:24.960 --> 01:57:28.720
believe the name of Grants and atheist
though that I buy for all? Right

1759
01:57:28.840 --> 01:57:31.680
Erica? Any final thoughts on American
Psycho? Do you know what song will

1760
01:57:31.680 --> 01:57:38.520
absolutely change your life? Old Time
rock and Roll? By Bob Seger from

1761
01:57:38.560 --> 01:57:43.520
his nineteen seventy eight seminal album Stranger
in Town. It is about a man

1762
01:57:43.800 --> 01:57:47.279
who appreciates the finer things, the
older things, the nostalgia for Americana,

1763
01:57:47.520 --> 01:57:51.479
and don't we all don't we all
wish for old time rock and roll?

1764
01:58:00.119 --> 01:58:03.359
Suddenly, but yet solely, totally
predictably, Patrick picks up his ass and

1765
01:58:03.479 --> 01:58:08.640
hacks Paul to death. You said
Patrick picks up his ass. He does

1766
01:58:08.720 --> 01:58:13.279
pick up his ass. Pick up
that ass, though, baby,