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Where are we at in society today? Come after me. I'm a man,

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I'm forty. Go ahead, make
my day every single week. I

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put my freaking heart and soul into
this. I don't go out there and

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laugh. It's not funny. Nothing's
funny to me. I don't wanna go

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out there and get embarrassed on Monday
night football. For everybody, I think

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this is the beginning of a beautiful
friendship. So I ain't nothing changed from

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yesterday. Still the same person I
was yesterday, and I got the same

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thing for you that I had yesterday. You know why I'm here. You

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play to win the day. You
don't play to just play it. That's

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a great thing about sports. You
play to win. I don't care if

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you don't have any wins. You
go play to win. When you start

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telling me it doesn't matter if you
retire, get out for the matter.

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Role players, they matter too.
And we bring that up only because there

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was a role player and a different
role that a manager took. I think

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that maybe many people didn't necessarily recognize
and that was the difference in a Tiger's

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win last night over Cleveland. Another
good ballgame and another nice win for Detroit.

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I don't know whether to feel frustrated
or satisfied with what the Tigers have

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shown us against Cleveland so far.
Welcome everybody on a Thursday morning to exes

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and bros. I'm Matt Shepherd.
Trent Bally is our producer. We look

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forward to the discussion all morning long. The Meyer hotline is open for it

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as always eight six six, eight
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The text line Sports Radio to twenty
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talking about the topic you want to
discuss. If you want to do it,

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jump on board. We will shift, all right, we can pivot,

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we can turn into discussing whatever it
is you think is most important.

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Yes, we oftentimes in the summer
months, we oftentimes start with baseball.

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That's because baseball's played every single night. And the Tigers were winners last night

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over Cleveland five four, five three
until it got really hairy in the ninth.

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Walks problem, wild pitches, lack
of concentration, Jake Rogers behind the

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dish. But they hold on and
that's the most important thing. Let's not

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focus on a negative here. We've
done that enough. Let's worry about what

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happened, how they were able to
do it. Cold Keith continues to impress

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kids, hitting over four hundred over
his last eleven games. How do you

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not recognize that? I feel good
about it when I watch him last night,

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Like he hits he tried, gets
off to a really good start.

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In case you didn't watch it,
in case you have Exfinity, couldn't watch

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it or anything like that, and
you're just kind of following the progress on

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your phone. They get off to
a good start with two runs in the

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first a Keith triple scores when Silperez
the Matt Verling with a sacrifice sly to

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score Cold Keith. I watch Cold
Keith play. I see how he's adjusted.

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I see how he's gained confidence.
You have two and he's not a

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finished product by any stretch of the
imagination. We know he's betten in just

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two fifty, but as I mentioned, over four hundred over the last eleven

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games. When I watch him hit
that triple to deep center field, I

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think, MM, how are your
bias? What's he thinking? Like he's

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on the bench because Zach McKinstry started
it. Short bias is on the bench.

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He plays the day before he takes
an offer. He's watching Cole Keith

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catch fire. It's not like Bias
hasn't done it before. He has.

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He would love to find that mojo, find that rhythm, find that feel

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again, can't seem to find it. But role players is how I started

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the show today. And the role
player is one Andy A. Banyaz.

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Now do you want Andy Banyaz starting
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right field, positions which he's played. Do you want him starting everything?

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Relate? Nope, I don't,
But I do love how he accepts his

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role and embraces it. It's a
part time starter. He'll come in and

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pitch in situations. And last night
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He drilled his third home run of
the year to left field. It

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made it five to three. And
then in the ninth Cleveland played one and

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had the tying run and game winning
run actually or the go ahead run at

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second base, had two runners on
second and third, one more key swing

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by a Cleveland guardian and look out
right, then you and I are talking.

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You and I are in a different
mood. We might be in a

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foul mood, but I see the
way they played last night, and granted

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it's just their forty fourth win.
They're still under five hundred to home.

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But I see the way they played
last night, I think, damn,

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where's that bin? Where have those
battles in the batter's box bin? You

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can't blame Matt Vierling. Matt Vierling's
had a really nice season so far.

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Now, granted it's two forty six, it's got a career high twelve.

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Therein lies part of the issue for
me as I watch the game and I'm

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thinking, hmm, why is it? And I like him a lot,

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by the way, this is what
aj Hitch is forced to do. He

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is forced to try so many different
lineups. See, when you have,

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as you and I have talked about
all season long, when you have everyday

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players, what you get is you
get guys slotted into familiar and comfortable positions,

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not just defensively, but you're able
to do that offensively too. With

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your lineup, you know a certain
guy is going to be leading off,

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you know a certain guy is going
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and so on and so forth.
It's a relief for a manager,

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it's a confidence for a team.
Matt Vierling has batted first, second,

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third, fourth, fifth, sixth
and seventh this year, do you know,

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he's batted leadoff more than any other
spot. And then last night he

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was forced into because of this team
situation batting third. Riley Green was your

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cleanup hitter and he went to for
four. So good for the All Star.

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That is not the ideal. That
is not the ideal situation. That

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is not how this team is supposed
to be built. Matt Vierling on a

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really good team is a contributor,
There's no doubt about that. I bet

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you a ton of teams would love
to have him, whether you're playing third

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base, right field, center field, A lot of teams would love to

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have him. But they would love
to have him batting sixth seventh more oftentimes

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than not not batting leadoff and not
batting third. But it did work out

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for the Tigers last night in a
nice win, and they got a chance

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to win the series from the division
leaders later on today. So that's great.

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And Jack Flaherty's going to throw for
Detroit. That's that's really good news.

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In the eighth inving Andie Banyez digs
in as a pinch hitter. Now

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I told you Cole Keith and how
well he has played over the last eleven

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games, or so I think.
And this is part of in the Den

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that I recorded and you'll hear it
later on this morning. We don't always

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recognize those key decisions made by managers
or coaches in a game. We're too

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busy celebrating the home run woo one
two pitch, flyball deep left field,

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their ghosts three run homer negative too, chep. A lot of people want

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to just negativity cells and they just
want to look on the dark side,

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if you know what I mean.
Oh, sure, absolutely, That's why

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you know I didn't necessarily want it
straight into the negative. It's a feel

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good moment. It's a nice win
for them. Last night, the cole

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Keith had the triple, his second
of the year. He drives in a

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run, he scores a run,
he's hitting the ball really well. And

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yet in the eighth inning, in
a leadoff spot, aj Hinch goes to

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his bench. He goes to Andy
a Banyez against the lefty. Granted,

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part of a matchup, but it's
more than a matchup. It's a feeld

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thing for him because he's got other
options. He could go one Bayez,

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He's got other options on his bench. He goes with Andy a Bonyez not

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a home run hitter by any stretch. It's his third bomb of the year

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that proves to be the difference.
Guy's willing to accept his role and to

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do it with a smile. Manager's
got to feel as well as the matchup.

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There was a combination there and it
ends in a win. Have this?

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This may seem a little unique, and

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the reason I did I don't want
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like to try and find out a
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There's not as much going on in
sports today. I get Wimbledon's going

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on. I know the Scottish Open
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The NBA Summer League. Are you
into that at all? There were

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four games last night Dalton connect had
twenty for the Lakers. Bronnie James,

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who everybody wants to talk about,
was horrible. Period. There's no other

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way to describe it. Horrible.
Maybe you're into the WNBA, I don't

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know. Are you into soccer at
all? The Copa America is the European

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Championships. Are you following Columbia?
I doubt it. They've won twenty eight

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straight matches that started back in twenty
twenty two. It's an unbelievable run and

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they're into the finals against Argentina.
Are you into the Copa Americas? I

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don't know. That's part of the
poll question to try and get to know

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you. Which of these events are
you most interested in? You may be

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shaking your head, you may be
laughing so hard you're crying. You may

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be angry at are you serious?
I'm just wondering the euro Soccer Championships,

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Wimbledon, the Scottish Open, the
NBA Summer League. Which of these events

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are you most interested in? Notice
I did not include none of the above,

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Trent Valley? Should I have included
none of the above? Well?

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I think that's an interesting question because
you and I were talking the other day

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about how if people aren't watching baseball, what are they watching? Right?

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I think this is a good way
to find out. I don't really subscribe

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to the idea that people are taking
a sports sabbatical and they're just out on

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the lake for three months straight and
not watching any sports. Really, see,

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I believe just the opposite. I
think they are. I think there's

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a lot of people who separate themselves
right now. They wouldn't be if the

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Tigers record was just the opposite of
what it is. Well, that's just

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it for me. Is I think
people might tune out of the Tigers,

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but they still got to watch something. Sports people are sports people, you

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know. But you're not going to
shove things down the throat. So that's

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the reason I bring this up.
Do you, with all due respect to

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the WNBA Do you think they're watching
the WNBA? Do you think they're watching

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Asia Wilson get a twenty twenty the
second player in Ace's history and the first

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player in the history of the league
to do it. Do you think they're

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watching that? If they're not watching
Caitlin Clark, then probably not WWBA.

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All right, So these are some
of the things that were taking place yesterday.

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You've reached the final four at the
All England Club, but that's during

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the day. Do you think they're
engrossed in that? No? Okay,

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I bring up the Soccer Championships.
Are they sticking around watching those games yesterday

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or dv R ing them? Do
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Oh my gosh, look at what
happened to the Netherlands. England beat them

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two to one. So it's now
England and Spain. Do you think that's

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the case. It's a good matchup. But no, I'm with you,

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it is a good matchup. That's
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yet. Golf perhaps, I mean, I watch it, you watch it.

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I love playing it. I'm pissed
that I can't right now because of

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a herniated disc. But I watch
it. Do you think they're it's possible.

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Well, I'll be honest. I
think golf and tennis, which are

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two options in the poll question which
you can vote on, I think those

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are the two that are kind of
carrying the load right now for sports,

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if you will. And look,
this is a bit of a unique summer

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sheep. We'll talk in a couple
of weeks here. The Olympics are coming

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up. Summer Olympics. Well,
there you go, and that leads to

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the next and that is the fact
that Team USA was a winner last night

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over Canada. Did you watch the
game at all? First exhibition games?

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Saw the highlights? Okay, I
watched it. Team USA fell behind early,

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they didn't shoot the ball very well, but they did beat Canada,

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who's got some really good players.
I mean Shae Gilgus Alexander to mention one

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of them. It's a good team. Canada is a good team, and

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they're in a tough, tough bracket. They've got Yannis and company to try

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and deal with so in Greece,
and they've got others. But Team USA

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has got you know, they've got
a really easy bracket. They've put together

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for some reason. The Olympic Committee
has put together in the bracket with Canada,

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three maybe four really really difficult teams
to match up against, and teams

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that could threaten Not that they will, but if there's any team to threaten

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them, it would be one of
those teams from that group to threaten the

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USA for gold. Speaking of Team
USA, how surprised were you that Kawhi

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Leonard won't be going to Paris because
of a knee injury. The belief is

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that the Clippers made the call,
not the US team, but the Clippers

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his NBA team, and Derek White
of the Celtics takes his place on the

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team. Derek White average fifteen points
five assists per game for the world champion

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Celtics. Yeah, the surprise there, SHEP is the latter part of what

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you talked about, that Derek White
got the call, not that Kawhi got

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hurt. I think we're all used
to that at this point, or that

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the Clippers made the call and maybe
it's just precautionary, but SHEP, let

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me throw this at you. There
are three champion Boston Celtics on this Team

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USA roster, not one of them
as Finals MVP Jaylen Brown, right,

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that's what surprised me. Yeah,
I didn't mean to pose the question,

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like, are you surprised that Kawhi
Leonard is out? No, I'm the

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biggest surprise of the whole news is
that Derek White takes his place. Did

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you see the tweet from Jalen Brown? It's three emojis of the face and

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like almost like the magnifying glass over
an eye, very you know, cryptos.

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Yeah, and that's his team mate. So that's a that's a tough

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thing. You can't go too far
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He's at home right now going really, are you kidding me? You're going

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to take Why do you think that
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take? And I like you know
this, We talked about this during the

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playoffs. Why would they take Derek
White instead of Jylen Brown? I have

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I have a theory on this.
There's not enough basketballs to go around right

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on that team, There's there's so
many players who are used to it and

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being the guy right well, I
think they wanted a guy who is willing

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to accept a certain role and accept
limited minutes. There's twelve spots on the

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team. I think what they're saying
is they're building the team right. Very

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few NBA champions run a twelve man
rotation. I'm just using that as a

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benchmark because one of these guys in
the Olympics is only going to play five

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six minutes a game. Maybe that's
Derek White now exactly. I think that's

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what it is too, that they
were There's a part of you that looks

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at it and you're like, Okay, I'm surprised. But the executive director,

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Grant Hill, remember what he said. He said, I'm trying to

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build a team, okay, and
I'm trying to win, so I need

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to put together the right pieces that
fit and still give us a chance to

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win. It was an interesting decision
when we come back. Another interesting comment

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or article the first half grades by
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if it's not right, what would
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five after the hour, in the
third hour of program this morning, Jim

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Camperoni from Spartan mag is going to
join us. Looking forward to that conversation

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that'll be at eight thirty five here
on this Thursday morning. Tiger is a

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one run winner. Last night's team
USA wins in an exhibition game against Canada.

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Derek White takes the place of the
injured Kawhi Leonard headed to Paris.

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The hero in that Tigers game were
many. You like it when a lot

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of different people are contributing. But
andy A Binya is coming off the bench.

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I thought, what was interesting with
andy A Banyas with a home run,

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the leadoff home run in the eighth
on a one to two pitch he

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actually fell in an O two hole. I think the interesting thing about that

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is how I always marvel at how
people go about their business. I don't

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care what it is you do in
life. That doesn't matter to me.

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What matters most to me is the
kind of person you are, how you

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treat people, things of that nature. I don't care what you do for

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a living. I gotta be honest
with you. I don't know what most

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of my friends do for a living. It doesn't matter. I care about

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the character of the individual, and
I hope they feel the same way with

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me. I hope it's like,
oh, you know that's my friend because

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he's on radio and TV. I
hope that's not the case. I love

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watching people prepare. If they're good
at their job, prepare for their job.

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Andy A. Bonyez always shows up
at the ballpark with a smile on

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his face. Really good dude.
I used to see him in the clubhouse

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all the time and he say,
how are you my friend? And fitz

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Pump and how is a family move
on? Right? He accepts the role.

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That's not an easy thing to do. I always try to keep in

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mind athletes who reach the highest level
more than ninety percent of them. We're

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the best player on the high school
team, with the best player on their

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travel team, with the best player
and their college team. If they did,

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if they went there among the best
at the minor leagues, otherwise they're

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not getting called up, right,
that's a You've got to be the best

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of the best to reach the highest
level. Even bad teams, even the

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worst teams in baseball, have some
really good players. Would you take Ryan

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McMahon if you if you're a baseball
team right now, you need an infielder,

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you need a solid player at third
base. I answer me this,

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would you take Ryan McMahon from the
Colorado Rockies. Yes? The answer to

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that is hell, yes, absolutely, you would. Serviceable, reliable,

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he can pick it at third base. He's got good pop. I know

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it's in Colorado. He got fourteen
bombs this year. You'd take that right

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on a crappy team. He's still
only twenty nine. He's durable, like

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you just said, last year,
played one hundred and fifty two games,

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two years ago, one hundred and
fifty one year before that, one hundred

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and fifty one. Would you take
him? Damn right, you would.

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And Colorado stinks. Somebody's going to
trade for Luise Robert. Somebody out there

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in need is going to at least
kick the tires with the Chicago White Sox

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who stink and say, what would
you need for Luise Robert Junior? It

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is eleventh home run yesterday, mad
power, great speed hose for an arm.

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You got to engage him a little
bit more because he seems to wander

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just a little bit, not always
there concentration wise, but maybe somebody can

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get to him. The talent is
definitely there. That team is awful.

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He's really really good. So you
get my point. So accepting a backup

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role, a role where you're not
playing every day, you don't have a

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home defensively, you're not in the
lineup every day. You know, when

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you show up at the ballpark,
you've got to look at aj Hinch putting

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out his daily lineup on one of
the doors that leads to the dugout that

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heads out to the field and recognize
whether or not you're playing. Andy Biyyas

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lives that every single day. I
got to check the lineup at my end,

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not today, So how do you
prepare for that? It's challenging.

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The mindset has got to be different. So I give him a ton of

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credit. Here's what he does.
He goes out in the bullpen when those

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guys are throwing, and Bania is
usually one of the first guys of the

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ballpark. He's on that first bus
oftentimes, just like pitchers are. Pitchers

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go out, they get their work
done. They go out to the bullpen.

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Andy E. Banya Is stands in, not that he's taking swings against

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them, but just so he can
get looks at the pitches, identifying the

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fastball, identifying the slider. Here
comes the curveball, good looking cutter right

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there. Watch out, that's a
change up. He does that for moments

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like last night. Yeah, that's
called stay in ready ship. Yeah,

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that's called a man who goes about
his business and his craft the right way.

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Doesn't mean that he's always going to
be successful. It doesn't mean that

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he deserves more reps and he should
be in there on a daily basis.

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It's just how he prepares. I
respect the hell out of that. He

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follows off the one two fastball up
and in. He gets another one to

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two pitch. It's a slider up
and away, flips the curveball. Home

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run number three. Now there's a
part of you that might say, oh,

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wait a minute, if he's that
good, but if he prepares that,

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well, why isn't he in there
every single day? Well, as

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I've said this time and time again, talent does matter. There are other

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guys who are just better. So
you keep striving to reach that. He'll

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continue to do that. In the
meantime, you like what he offers to

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your ball club in that role.
I've said this at nauseum. Those are

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the kind of guys you want to
have. You want to spot start them,

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You want to create a pinch hit
situation for them, but you don't

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want them in the lineup every single
day. Good win for Detroit last night,

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but it doesn't change the grade that
you may have for them as you

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reflect back on the first you know
they haven't reached quite one hundred games yet,

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but you want to. It doesn't
reflect necessarily how you feel. A

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one moment win doesn't reflect how you
feel about the first ninety plus games.

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ESPN Plus came out with their rankings
of their teams. They gave them grades,

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not rankings, but grades. So
they say a B. You know,

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you know you were in class.
You're probably an L A student I

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was not terrible at math, but
five teams got a's. This is the

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best to the best so far.
Shouldn't surprise you who it was. You

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and I can guess that Philadelphia,
Baltimore, Cleveland, Milwaukee. They're the

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division leaders for the most part.
Kansas City primarily because they've surprised everybody.

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Who's a bigger surprise. Kansas City, who was a dog a year ago,

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or Cleveland, who finished ten games
under five hundred, have won the

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Wills Pay rules in all of baseball, and yet they're in the lead and

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have the second most wins in the
Amya League. I would say either one

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you'd be fine with, and both
deserve as so far. Kansas City,

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by the way, just swept a
double header yesterday, so kudos to them.

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It's a fun team to watch,
and it was a nice little story.

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I think when you and I first
started following this, you and I

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thought, oh, Kansas City,
good for them. You know, they're

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not much, They're not much of
a threat. We don't view teams like

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that as a threat because we just
didn't believe it. They finished last in

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the division a year ago. Folks. They were thirty one games back of

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the Twins last year. Fifty six
up, one hundred and six down.

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That was Kansas City last year.
After sweeping the double header last night.

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Do you know how many wins they
have? Remember they had fifty six last

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year. Do you know how many
wins they have this year? They're at

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fifty plus, right, they're fifty
one. They could, legitimately, I

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believe, reach the number of wins
this year that they had all of last

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year before the All Star Break.
Yeah. I always find it fascinating to

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kind of retroactively look at the over
underwin totals before the season, just to

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kind of see what Vegas thought and
what expectations were. And the Royals were

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supposed to win seventy four and a
half games, said Vegas. So you

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know why you think that, because
Vegas is usually right. Yeah, p'd

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be damn close. Right. There's
a reason that they make the money they

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do. Yeah, that's why I
don't bet, Trent. There's a reason

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I don't bet. It's because those
places in Vegas they have a lot of

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expensive furniture, a lot of expensive
frills in their hotels and casinos. They

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know what they're doing. I think
every single sports gambler in America has a

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bone to pick with Vegas, I
would guess. So if anybody's putting money

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on the Kansas City Royal, I
don't know if they were or not.

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Well, I'm sure Royals fans,
you know, Tigers were seventy four and

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a half, I'd be going to
Vegas and putting money on the Tigers.

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Yeah, yeah, I thought you
meant before the season began. Now,

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I don't know how many games they
have left before the All Star break.

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Maybe they can't reach it. It
still doesn't take away how surprising and impressive

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this has been. But I do
believe before the season began, and I

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even think at the beginning of the
year, when Kansas City showed some consistency,

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you and I collectively would have said, that's a nice story. You

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know why, it's a nice story
because we didn't think it was sustainable,

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and we sure as hell didn't think
they were a threat to Detroit. Right,

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you'd say, that's a good start. Yeah, good for them showing

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some progress, right with their core. Right, and now you look at

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them and you go, damn,
I wouldn't mind having some of those pieces,

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Uh huh. Right. Kyle isbel
goes yard in the second game Salvador

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Perez homeward him both games. Sixteen
bombs Now for Salvador Perez. They beat

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you in a lot of different ways. I was watching a ton of sports

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last night. I watched the Phillies
game. I'm sure you did too,

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because I know you love baseball.
Phillies Dodgers. That's the marquee matchup of

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the night. Philly beat you in
so many different ways. I praised them

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a lot on this show. You
know why I like him. Speed.

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Bryson Stott gets down the line,
beats out an infield single. Trey Turner

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gets an infield single that scores a
run. They've got good speed man.

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Witt Maryfield legs out a triple on
a routine fly ball. Well, Andy

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Pius lost it in the in the
lights, but still the point is Witt

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Mayfield put his head down a ramp. He didn't say that's a can of

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corn. I'm out of here.
No, put his head down, ran

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hard out of the box. All
the things you learned as a kid when

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you were playing Little League, and
all the things you're teaching young kids now

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as a little league coach, whit
Maerfield did. It's pretty awesome anyway,

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I've digressed a little bit. Sorry. I get into that role and I

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just absolutely love watching certain teams play
because I like their style. No,

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that's okay. And then also watching
Phillies Dodgers. I mean that's one of

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the marquee matchups of the season.
And the Tigers get the Dodgers next.

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So if you want to do a
little scouting, what am on? Well?

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Yeah, they play again today at
six oh five. For those who

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want to watch, now, I
will tell you this about the Dodgers as

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a immediate I start to laugh know
this last ten games, no team in

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baseball has had a worst a worse
pitching performance than the Los Angeles Dodgers.

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No team in baseball they're pitching.
I saw this on the FS one broadcast

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prior to the game last night.
The numbers are awful. They're allowing most

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home runs, their er is the
worst, the whip is the worst.

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They have struggled mightily, and yet
they still lead the division comfortably. How

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should that make Tigers fans feel?
Sheep? They've got fifty five wins and

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00:37:12.440 --> 00:37:15.480
their pitching is brutal. Yeah,
and they got a seven and a half

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00:37:15.519 --> 00:37:19.719
game lead, and Tigers fans are
over here waving the flag for Terror School,

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as they should. But we just
keep banging the drum for all our

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pitching's great. Doesn't seem to matter, does it. No? And that's

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because we've been told. And I
don't think that it's necessarily wrong, but

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we've been told all our lives the
pitching and defense wins championships. It's a

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nice cliche. I'm not going to
necessarily disagree with it, Okay, but

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I say this all the time.
You got to score runs, damn it.

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Defense is great in football, right, Chiefs won because, I mean

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their defense is really good. Their
wide receivers really struggle at the beginning of

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the year, leisure. In the
end, Patrick Mahomes is winning the game

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00:38:02.400 --> 00:38:07.000
for you. He doesn't play defense. Yeah, and over time, the

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Chiefs defense held the Niners to a
field goal that was ultimately the difference,

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00:38:10.760 --> 00:38:15.079
right, sure it was. But
Patrick Mahomes is pulling games out of his

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rear end on a regular basis in
order for them to get there. Yep,

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Boston plays really good defense. Indiana
plays really good defense in the NBA.

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Guess what. They also score a
lot, Dallas. Perhaps their lack

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of defense was a reason they didn't
win the championship, but their offense is

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the reason they got there in the
first place. So I don't mind the

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cliches. I use them too,
and I think they are appropriate. But

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you must be able to score well. You also got to be realistic about

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00:38:53.280 --> 00:38:58.039
it. You can draw as many
sports parallels as you want. We're Big

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ten people. Ship. We see
Iowa every single year rolled through the Big

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Ten West with that great defense,
and then what get throttled by a better

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team in the Big Ten East because
they can't move the damn football. They

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can't score period. Their punter is
the best player on the team. And

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I'm not being flippant saying that.
No, ye him. Look, we

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00:39:17.960 --> 00:39:22.559
had the interview earlier this year with
Tim Lester, their new offensive coordinator.

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I gave him a statistic that blew
his mind. He didn't know about it.

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00:39:28.400 --> 00:39:34.599
The statistic I gave was, your
punter punted four more yards than your

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00:39:34.679 --> 00:39:40.519
quarterback through It's just insane. And
he laughed and giggled. But when he

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00:39:40.559 --> 00:39:45.880
looks it up, he's like,
holy crap, you're right. That scares

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00:39:45.920 --> 00:39:52.079
the hell out of me. Yeah, yep, that's ridiculous. That is

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ridiculous. But it's so true.
Look, it's not that I disagree with

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it. Okay, I like defense, two, I really do. Edmonton

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reached the Stanley Cup Finals. Maybe
they didn't win it. Maybe they didn't

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win it overall because of their lack
of defense. They reached the Stanley Cup

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Finals because they were the number one
scoring team in the NHL. And by

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the way, Florida as good as
defensively as they were, they were a

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top ten offense. That's what I'm
saying. Anyway, we continue. So

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they were five A grades given out
to Major League Baseball teams by ESPN,

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plus six teams received a B,
nine were average, were a C,

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six more with a D, and
four with an F. What do you

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think the Tigers deserved? And what
do you think they got? How about

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C for the Tigers? How about
incorrect? Would you give them a C?

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It so tough because I give the
pitching an A and I'd give the

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heading a D. You give the
hitting a D. Yeah, So I

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don't really know where you fall in
with the whole team, you know what

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I mean? Sure, No,
I get it. You know you're trying

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to balance it, right, I
look at the whole overall product. I

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would give the hitting probably lower than
a D. I agree with your pitching

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for the most part. There are
certain guys you can nick pick, right,

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it shall be Miller, Kent to
my Aeta. I mean you give

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it an A when you got Kent
to Maeta and Shell be Miller with those

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numbers, probably not maybe a B
plus. Sure that's fair, you're right,

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Yeah, that's perhaps that's a little
semantics. I give them an F

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or a D rather I give them
a D on the season. And this

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this goes back to expectations. That
means there's a little bit of a compliment

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in there. That means I had
high expectations for your team. ESPN plus

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gave them a D plus. Here's
what they wrote. The last time the

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Tigers ranked in the top half of
the AL and run scored two thousand and

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00:41:59.519 --> 00:42:06.760
sixty inan What did we just say
about scoring once again? Another week Detroit

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offense. They break down the numbers
and get a little bit deeper into it,

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and we'll share that with you when
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