WEBVTT 1 00:00:09.640 --> 00:00:15.439 The Ham Radio two point zero Audio podcast rip. Thank you for downloading and 2 00:00:15.480 --> 00:00:19.239 listening to this podcast. So basically what I do is I take all the 3 00:00:19.280 --> 00:00:24.679 audio clips out of my videos and upload them to spreaker, and then from 4 00:00:24.719 --> 00:00:30.199 there they're spread out to iTunes and SoundCloud and now Amazon Audible as well. 5 00:00:31.199 --> 00:00:34.600 But I want to welcome you and thank you for joining the audio section of 6 00:00:34.799 --> 00:00:39.679 this series on Ham Radio. I hope you enjoy it, and I would 7 00:00:39.679 --> 00:00:45.560 appreciate you leaving us a comment or a review on whatever podcast service you're listening 8 00:00:45.600 --> 00:00:51.119 from. Thank you in seventy three. I hope you enjoy it. It's 9 00:00:51.159 --> 00:00:56.079 been a long held belief by some people on YouTube, mostly in the comments 10 00:00:56.119 --> 00:00:59.759 section. Actually I'm not really talking about other YouTubers, although I've heard it 11 00:00:59.799 --> 00:01:06.159 on other YouTube channels also that the FCC doesn't care if you violate some arbitrary 12 00:01:06.200 --> 00:01:08.319 a law that you don't agree with. Okay, well, here is a 13 00:01:08.439 --> 00:01:15.840 story today about an actual FCC citation of a GMRS user. This isn't even 14 00:01:15.879 --> 00:01:21.480 about Ham Radio. This is about a GMRS user that got cited for illegal 15 00:01:21.840 --> 00:01:26.400 types of transmissions on GMRS frequencies even though he's a licensed user. Look at 16 00:01:26.439 --> 00:01:36.000 this so over here at nott com magazine dot com okays it says, yes, 17 00:01:36.120 --> 00:01:40.040 the FCC is citing violators. Don't think that general mobile radio service and 18 00:01:40.079 --> 00:01:46.319 fractions are going unnoticed. This is written by Chuck geez And from June of 19 00:01:46.319 --> 00:01:49.280 this year and into Dup. I assume that's his call sign, amateur radio 20 00:01:49.319 --> 00:01:53.239 call sign, So Chuck into Dup. He's the author of the article, 21 00:01:53.280 --> 00:01:57.879 not who the violation is against. There's a common myth the FCC doesn't pay 22 00:01:57.959 --> 00:02:00.640 much attention to gmrs, let alone it's six or radio service frs. But 23 00:02:00.719 --> 00:02:04.519 that's far from the truth. In most services, if there's interference complaint, 24 00:02:04.640 --> 00:02:07.960 FCC agents pounce into action in an effort to remove the problem. There's incentive 25 00:02:08.159 --> 00:02:12.280 too, if you think about it. If the FCC finds interference to be 26 00:02:12.319 --> 00:02:15.879 malicious, a nice hefty fine may be levied, helping to pay for enforcement 27 00:02:15.879 --> 00:02:21.719 costs and then for some FCC coffer for the FCC's coffers, just like a 28 00:02:21.759 --> 00:02:28.360 speeding ticket, just like a fine about whatever you do in any aspect of 29 00:02:28.400 --> 00:02:32.039 life. If they find you to be in violation of something, and they 30 00:02:32.080 --> 00:02:36.840 find you and you have to pay this money, they make more money so 31 00:02:37.039 --> 00:02:42.599 why not. A recent enforcement action taken by the FCC against GMRS AGMRS license 32 00:02:42.759 --> 00:02:46.879 has pretty much gone unnoticed by most media as well as hobbyists and the web. 33 00:02:46.280 --> 00:02:50.520 Continue reading for details. Okay, so this is yeah. I haven't 34 00:02:50.560 --> 00:02:54.159 seen this one, the specific one yet, although I do try to watch 35 00:02:54.199 --> 00:02:58.240 not a rubicon where I can, and it's possible he mentioned this one and 36 00:02:58.280 --> 00:03:00.000 I didn't see it, but he has mentioned other ones in the past even 37 00:03:00.039 --> 00:03:04.240 if he didn't talk about this one. In a notice of violation issued on 38 00:03:04.319 --> 00:03:09.680 June seventh, the FCC sideed GMRS operator from Washington State for transmitting continuous unmodulated 39 00:03:09.719 --> 00:03:14.599 signals on four six two seven two five Mega hurts. The FCC track down 40 00:03:14.599 --> 00:03:19.719 the signal to the Meisner Lookout communication site near Deer Island, Oregon, which 41 00:03:19.759 --> 00:03:23.319 is northwest of Vancouver, Washington and Portland, Oregon. In his letter to 42 00:03:23.680 --> 00:03:29.479 Martin T. Anderson, who holds a GMRS license WQQ P six five three, 43 00:03:29.759 --> 00:03:31.800 the FCC said the agent inspected the side on April twenty six and found 44 00:03:31.800 --> 00:03:38.879 a faulty motoroller radius transmitter sending out continuous signal transmission on GMRS frequency from the 45 00:03:38.879 --> 00:03:44.479 peaks. So continuous transmissions are illegal. The next part of this article shows 46 00:03:44.479 --> 00:03:46.360 this gentleman's picture. I don't want to show his picture. I think it 47 00:03:46.439 --> 00:03:50.000 might be in a little bit bad taste for this article. The show a 48 00:03:50.039 --> 00:03:53.159 picture of the guy, but they say the picture was taken from the MYGMRS 49 00:03:53.240 --> 00:03:58.199 dot com website. So it's a picture that he freely shared on a public 50 00:03:58.240 --> 00:04:00.840 website. So okay, okay, maybe I should show it, but I'm 51 00:04:00.840 --> 00:04:03.319 not gonna I'm not gonna do that, So we're gonna skip through that part 52 00:04:03.400 --> 00:04:06.879 real quick. So the citation is about a continuous signal. So down here 53 00:04:06.879 --> 00:04:11.680 at this last paragraph on this one inciting the violation, FCC knows that GMRS 54 00:04:11.800 --> 00:04:16.480 Rule ninety five one seven three three Alpha ten states GMRS stations must not communicate 55 00:04:16.600 --> 00:04:25.480 continuous or uninterrupted transmissions for except for communications evolving immediate safety of life and property. 56 00:04:25.600 --> 00:04:30.079 So, in other words, if they have like a pirate radio station, 57 00:04:30.240 --> 00:04:34.879 someone just keys up and broadcasts something a talk radio show, music, 58 00:04:35.000 --> 00:04:39.720 whatever, something like that, then that is illegal according to the terms of 59 00:04:39.759 --> 00:04:42.720 the GMRS license. Now you might say, well, how would you know 60 00:04:42.800 --> 00:04:45.959 that, Well, you're supposed to read that big, long, freaking document 61 00:04:46.079 --> 00:04:48.759 when you go and sign up for GMRS license and check all the boxes and 62 00:04:48.800 --> 00:04:53.079 put your name and information in there and your credit card to pay the thirty 63 00:04:53.079 --> 00:04:56.120 five dollar feef. You're supposed to read all that stuff. Nobody does it. 64 00:04:56.160 --> 00:04:58.720 I didn't do it. I didn't read any of that crap. But 65 00:04:58.839 --> 00:05:02.639 I'm like, I know basic radio etiquette, so I'm like, I kind 66 00:05:02.639 --> 00:05:04.879 of know it to do anyway. You have to learn a lot of that 67 00:05:04.959 --> 00:05:08.519 to get your HAM radio license, but you don't have to learn anything to 68 00:05:08.519 --> 00:05:12.720 get your GMRS license. I've always said that the biggest thing is just don't 69 00:05:12.759 --> 00:05:15.879 be a jerk on the air, and you'll probably go unnoticed by most people. 70 00:05:16.040 --> 00:05:20.199 So this continuous transmission that they're talking about here is just it's a side 71 00:05:20.199 --> 00:05:23.839 of this. And they put a notice of the violation right here. Martin 72 00:05:23.839 --> 00:05:27.879 T. Anderson WQPP six five three is his call sign, his GMRS call 73 00:05:27.920 --> 00:05:30.240 sign in Vancouver, So there we go. A letter was sent to Anderson's 74 00:05:30.240 --> 00:05:34.000 address a mail dropping Vancouver. He has held a GMRS license since January of 75 00:05:34.000 --> 00:05:38.839 twenty thirteen and has been a license damage to raidar operators since nineteen ninety five. 76 00:05:38.959 --> 00:05:43.000 In the presentation at the twenty fourteen. Sea Pack. Sea Pack is 77 00:05:43.079 --> 00:05:46.000 a ham fest, a ham radio festival or like a trade show that we 78 00:05:46.079 --> 00:05:49.199 have in Seaside, Oregon once a year. I've never been. I've always 79 00:05:49.240 --> 00:05:51.480 wanted to go. It's probably on my bucket list for next year. I 80 00:05:51.560 --> 00:05:56.240 might company buddy pull up there. We'll see what happens with that. Speaking 81 00:05:56.279 --> 00:06:00.560 of ham Fest, the Huntsville Hamfest in Huntsville, Alabama, which is largely 82 00:06:00.600 --> 00:06:03.560 regarded as the third largest hamfest in the United States, happens this week at 83 00:06:03.560 --> 00:06:06.199 the time of the recording that you're watching this video. It's happening this week. 84 00:06:06.480 --> 00:06:10.399 You can go buy the gigaparts table and get a twenty percent off of 85 00:06:10.480 --> 00:06:15.040 anything from LDG Electronics at that Hamfest. I don't know if they're doing like 86 00:06:15.160 --> 00:06:18.120 rain checks or online orders during that time. Contact gigaparts and let them know 87 00:06:18.800 --> 00:06:23.160 or enquire and I'll inquire. Also, maybe I'll put a comment down below 88 00:06:23.240 --> 00:06:27.399 after the fact, but you can get twenty percent discount off of everything LDG. 89 00:06:27.680 --> 00:06:30.199 LDG and Gigaparts are sponsoring this video, so I thank them for that. 90 00:06:30.439 --> 00:06:34.480 But go buy their table at the Huntsville Hamdfest. I keep wanting to 91 00:06:34.480 --> 00:06:39.399 say Houston. It's not in Houston. It's in Huntsville, Huntsville, Alabama, 92 00:06:39.439 --> 00:06:42.120 Hamfest. It's a great show. It's a fantastic show. We're gonna 93 00:06:42.120 --> 00:06:44.519 be out there for four or five days during this week. While at the 94 00:06:44.519 --> 00:06:46.360 time you're watching the video, I'll probably already be there and we're gonna go 95 00:06:46.399 --> 00:06:50.279 out there and we're gonna activate a lot of PODA on Montisana website. Monasana 96 00:06:50.560 --> 00:06:54.920 State Park. LDG is going to have this sale going on Saturday and Sunday 97 00:06:55.000 --> 00:06:57.600 during the Hamfest. Go buy the Giga Parts booth, tell them that you 98 00:06:57.639 --> 00:07:00.519 saw this video and ask them about their twenty percent discount on everything LDG. 99 00:07:00.800 --> 00:07:04.839 So thank you to Gigaparts and to LDG for supporting this channel. So apparently 100 00:07:04.879 --> 00:07:09.160 he's been sided at this point in time. It does this article does not 101 00:07:09.319 --> 00:07:13.800 give a number, a dollar amount about let's say it's going to be a 102 00:07:13.839 --> 00:07:15.800 two thousand dollars fine or a ten thousand dollars fine or whatever. It doesn't 103 00:07:15.800 --> 00:07:18.639 really say anything about that at all. A letter did mention that it's giving 104 00:07:18.720 --> 00:07:21.399 him a few days to respond, like I think I think it said ten 105 00:07:21.480 --> 00:07:26.519 days to respond, and then they'll take further action, but he has replied 106 00:07:26.560 --> 00:07:29.680 to it already saying, you know it's it's a faulty transmitter and something's going 107 00:07:29.759 --> 00:07:33.079 on here. He says right here that the Messner lookout side apparently was where 108 00:07:33.279 --> 00:07:36.600 Anderson had a repeater on four six two seven two five. The repeater, 109 00:07:36.680 --> 00:07:42.279 identified as Columbia seven two five on mygmors dot com is described to part of 110 00:07:42.279 --> 00:07:46.000 the system of threepreaters linked to the radio by the cover to cover the Lower 111 00:07:46.040 --> 00:07:49.319 Columbia River Gateway. Listening goes on to say the repeater at the Miser lookout 112 00:07:49.360 --> 00:07:54.959 is undergoing upgrades and has a temporary replacement, so it's already been a continuous 113 00:07:54.959 --> 00:07:58.800 transmission has already been addressed. Enclosing FCC letters states that it will use all 114 00:07:58.839 --> 00:08:03.600 reletant event information received to determine whether any enforcement action is required to ensure compliance 115 00:08:03.639 --> 00:08:07.879 with FCC rules. While gmrs and fractions are few and far between, they 116 00:08:07.879 --> 00:08:11.160 do happen, and the FCC will go after cases of interference. They likely 117 00:08:11.199 --> 00:08:15.680 won't go after you for not using your call sign or using the equipment that 118 00:08:15.759 --> 00:08:20.480 isn't type accepted for gmrs. Okay, so you're reading it here, this 119 00:08:20.560 --> 00:08:24.040 is again, this is the opinion of the author of this article. They 120 00:08:24.120 --> 00:08:28.959 likely won't go after you for not using your call sign or using equipment that 121 00:08:28.040 --> 00:08:33.840 isn't type accepted for GMRS and not words. If you have a part ninety 122 00:08:33.840 --> 00:08:37.519 Motorola radio or you have a Ham radio that you opened up in Mars Maude 123 00:08:37.639 --> 00:08:41.519 and and use it on GMS frequencies, they'll likely not go after you. 124 00:08:41.600 --> 00:08:43.759 Now, I'm not telling you you should do that, and I'm not telling 125 00:08:43.799 --> 00:08:46.840 you you shouldn't do that. I'm just reading the article, So don't come 126 00:08:46.840 --> 00:08:48.679 by and say, well, Jason, you said it was okay. I'm 127 00:08:48.720 --> 00:08:54.440 not saying it's okay. I'm reading that this guy thinks that they likely won't 128 00:08:54.440 --> 00:08:56.240 go after you, and as far as using your call sign goes. I 129 00:08:56.279 --> 00:09:01.799 was talking with a few guys at the Ron day Voo in the Ozarks event 130 00:09:01.960 --> 00:09:05.240 last fall fall of twenty twenty two, and I was given a short presentation 131 00:09:05.279 --> 00:09:09.679 on amateur radio and kind of how it differed from GMRS radio and whatnot. 132 00:09:09.840 --> 00:09:13.480 A lot of those guys were surprised to hear that you're actually supposed to identify 133 00:09:13.519 --> 00:09:16.960 your call sign every ten minutes. Again, if you read that really long 134 00:09:16.000 --> 00:09:20.600 freaking document that you sign your name on and pay your money for. When 135 00:09:20.600 --> 00:09:24.519 you get your GMRS license, you're supposed to identify your call sign on GMRS 136 00:09:24.600 --> 00:09:28.720 frequencies every ten to fifteen minutes. Do people do that? Very rarely, 137 00:09:28.840 --> 00:09:31.200 very rarely do I hear that. When I'm out overlanding with some guys and 138 00:09:31.240 --> 00:09:35.000 we're following everyone in a caravan, nobody IDs. We just talk to each 139 00:09:35.000 --> 00:09:37.039 other. But there's a couple of repeaters here in town that I talk on 140 00:09:37.159 --> 00:09:41.600 GMRIS repeaters I'll talk on sometime, and everyone IDs, well, after talking 141 00:09:41.639 --> 00:09:43.720 to those guys the first two or three times, I find out they're all 142 00:09:43.720 --> 00:09:46.600 Hams anyway, so of course they're going to ID. It's it's common nature, 143 00:09:46.639 --> 00:09:50.279 and it's it's second nature for us to ID on repeater when we're talking, 144 00:09:50.360 --> 00:09:52.639 and even simplex too. But it is a requirement, even though nobody 145 00:09:52.679 --> 00:09:56.039 follows it. Bear that in mind, just say, oh, well, 146 00:09:56.080 --> 00:09:58.000 that's not required on GMRS. Yes it is. That's why they give you 147 00:09:58.039 --> 00:10:01.000 a call sign, So you kind I d yourself so, and it goes 148 00:10:01.000 --> 00:10:03.879 on to say, and I might look this article up. Another recent violation 149 00:10:03.960 --> 00:10:09.960 cited by the FCC involved a business radio license c that had FS frequencies in 150 00:10:09.000 --> 00:10:13.679 their business radios at power levels above those allowed by FIRS rules. FS is 151 00:10:13.679 --> 00:10:18.799 generally restricted about half a watt or one watt on some channels, maybe two 152 00:10:18.799 --> 00:10:22.000 watson I think two watts max on most channels, but that it can go 153 00:10:22.039 --> 00:10:24.919 down to half a watt on a few channels as well. The initial action 154 00:10:24.039 --> 00:10:28.600 in that case was for something entirely different, but they discover the FS channels 155 00:10:28.600 --> 00:10:33.600 while inspecting equipment, so they had commercial equipment with FRS frequencies programmed into them. 156 00:10:33.639 --> 00:10:37.679 Now, you could argue because FRS and GMRS share frequencies, but if 157 00:10:37.720 --> 00:10:43.120 you notice in your GMRS radio there are certain channels that don't go above a 158 00:10:43.120 --> 00:10:46.279 half a watt zero point five watts, and that's four FRS restrictions. Even 159 00:10:46.320 --> 00:10:50.840 though you've got more power capabilities on some GMRS frequencies, it's not that way 160 00:10:50.879 --> 00:10:54.679 on all of them. So if they have an low power frequency in their 161 00:10:54.679 --> 00:10:58.000 commercial band and they're transmitting five or ten watts on it from their mortal role 162 00:10:58.120 --> 00:11:03.240 radio, that's that's a big no no. And apparently there there's an example 163 00:11:03.279 --> 00:11:05.360 of an article where they're doing exactly that. So don't think that you are 164 00:11:05.600 --> 00:11:16.080 exempt or somehow excused from properly using your GMRS license and your GMRS repeater and 165 00:11:16.240 --> 00:11:18.200 your GMRS radio. If they say, oh, they're never going to come 166 00:11:18.200 --> 00:11:22.080 after you, that's just not true. I mean, the likelihood of them 167 00:11:22.120 --> 00:11:26.039 coming after you is small, but it's not zero. So why take the 168 00:11:26.120 --> 00:11:31.000 chance my only come And again, the only thing that I've ever actually said 169 00:11:31.039 --> 00:11:33.600 about any of this is just don't be a jerk on the air. Don't 170 00:11:33.679 --> 00:11:37.639 key down your radio when someone else is trying to talk and cause interference. 171 00:11:37.679 --> 00:11:41.240 Don't play music of the air when you're on a repeater that's trying to get 172 00:11:41.360 --> 00:11:45.440 used, or during a net or something like that. And don't just badmouth 173 00:11:45.480 --> 00:11:46.960 people and use a bunch of foul language on the air. Don't do that. 174 00:11:48.320 --> 00:11:50.399 Just use it for what it's intended use for, and people will leave 175 00:11:50.440 --> 00:11:52.840 you alone for the most part.