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Made out decision O pace sunny sune
on. I had a vision. NIC's

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night week. What's up? Everybody? Welcome to a sunny, bright sunshiny

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for crying out loud, it's sunshine
day. I think I'll go for a

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walk outside now. The summertime is
calling my name. I hear it said

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all day. I want to get
up sunshiny day. Everybody's laughing sunshine day.

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Everybody's smiling sunshine day. Everybody's hung
the troubles away. It's a sunshine

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day. We're showing artage change and
I've got to change. Oh my god,

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I know we are showing our age
memories. I beg you a million

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bucks. Kaylin has no clue what
we were singing. I mean, I

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don't know the name of the song, but it sounds familiar. It does

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because it was from the Brady Bunch. Oh yeah, the Brady Bunch.

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You know that. I sound like
a love the Brady Bunch. Oh my

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god, me too. I was
all about the Brady Bunch. Oh wait,

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yeah, Brady Bunch. Happy days, even though that was a different

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era. But happy later, yeah, a little later, Happy days.

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La Vernon Shirley, yep. I
was just thinking about those shows. The

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other day, Happy Days was first. It was like Tuesday night lineup,

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I want to say, and it
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And so that was already pushing it
for me a little bit because I

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was a little kid and I really
wanted to stamp for Lavern and Shirley.

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Yes. Do you remember what was
on at nine what Three's Company? Oh?

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Yes? And then at nine thirty
too Close for Comfort? Yeah.

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I think I wasn't allowed to stay
up that late because too Close for Comfort.

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I was more into in reruns.
Uh huh, right, so I

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would have been a little bit older. Yeah, yeah, I just I

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remember that those were Tuesday nights.
Yeah. My favorite was the cartoons and

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it was after school and it was
Channel fifty six and it was Kimba the

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White Lion, which was like my
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obsessed with Kimba the White Lion.
And then I do remember there was controversy

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because later The Lion King the movie
came out and I was like, this

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is like Kimba. Oh it was, yeah, and the lion's name was

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Simba oh Cima, and Kimba.
It was a Japanese cartoon. I mean

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I can't. I think they got
sued. Oh really, yes, but

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I don't know who won. But
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want to say it was Underdog.
Oh, Underdog and Rocky and Bullwinkle Yeah,

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and uh speed Racer. Yeah,
here he comes, Here comes speed

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Racer. He's a demon on a
wheels. He's a demon. Then it's

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on to be coming after someone go
speed Racer. Do you remember that?

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I do. I do a big
those cartoon fans. But I did watch

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it because there was nothing else to
watch, right. I like the Warner

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Brothers, Daffy Duck and Bugs Bunny. Oh yeah, I like that too.

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I was a big TV addict too. What about Saturday morning cartoons?

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Did you watch them? Land of
the Lost? Yes, with the Land

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of the Lost and there was another
one. Yes. That's why I buy

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those old T shirts. I go
on a uh tea tea spring or tea,

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I can't remember, and you can
look up anything you want. And

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that's where I got my WITCHI poo, the one with uh Liddsville and hr

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puffin stuff, which poo gave me
nightmares. I've heard this Sid and Marty

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Croft where like Big Time did a
lot of asks, that's what I hear.

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Yeah, one of them just away
recently. I know, I know,

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but I to me, it's like
Disneyland. It's like when you go

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to Disneyland and you're a little kid, you don't see any of the wires.

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You know, you're on the Pirates
of the Caribbean, and you're just

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like, this shit is real.
This is real. You're scared, and

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then as an adult you're like,
oh, there's I can see you could

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see the ceiling right right if you
look, So you have to kind of

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try to keep the magical life.
Well, it's like that. I feel

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like as a little kid, you
know, hr puff and stuff, it

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didn't feel like cheesy puppets. I
felt like, yeah, my friends,

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right, your friends, Yeah,
because I would be left alone. Well

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you were just talking about this in
your book. Because I'm listening to your

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book, which is really good,
which, by the way, gives me

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comfort when I'm out on my construction
site at night smoking cigarettes, because I

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like, it was raining last week
and I was out there smoking. I

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was like, you know, things
were coming to an end with the divorce,

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and it's like listening to your book
sitting out there. It was nice,

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but I pictured you send me the
sweetest text telling me that, and

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I was imagining you like alone in
the dark with air pods on, so

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with noise canceling air pods so you
can't even hear when, like you know,

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the rapist comes. Yeah, when
Lessay tries to accost you. Yes,

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yes, I was like Lynette,
but take one ear AirPod out.

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Be aware of your surroundings. I
am my back is up against a brick

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wall, okay, so I do
have my my peripheral vision going on.

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My god, you're the You're the
person outside of seven eleven that my kids

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are scared of. I got my
down smoking against a wall, like my

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kids are like, mom, stay
away from that person. Now. I

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know it's pretty apathetic. So you
were going to say latch key yes,

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like yes, like when just being
alone every day after school like and then

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after school though, I would watch
like General Hospital, okay when you got

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a little older, assuming Yeah,
when I was older, i'd watch General

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Hospital than Oprah. Did you ever
watch General Hospital? I didn't watch General

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Hospital, but I watched The Young
and the Restless. Oh you are CBS

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fan, I guess ABC. I
wanted to get back to the Brady Bunch

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for a minute. Oh god,
So I actually did watch. I watched

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like the Brady Bunch in Gilligan's Island
because when I was really little and I

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had my first just like crappy TV
in my room, that's what they would

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play on, like Nike at night. Those But other fun facts about it

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is I lived right around the corner
from the Brady Bunch House. It's studio

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city. I did too. I
lived on Aqua Vista and it was like,

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so, yeah, I lived on
Valley Spring Lane, which is kind

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of on the other end of the
neighborhood or whatever. But as I got

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older, there were two places in
the neighborhood that me and my friends would

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park outside of and smoke weed in
the car. We had this one spot

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that was kind of like a dead
end, but then you know, we

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saw like a cop drive by one
day, so we had to find another

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one. So we used to smoke
weed outside of the Brady Bunch house.

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And that's what we would say,
like, we're burned, Let's go to

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the Brady spot to go smoke weed. Oh my god, classic la Yeah,

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and uh my dad dated one of
the Brady girls. Oh really,

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Yeah, I forged. I think
it's the older one, Marcia Marsham Marsha

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was okay, The younger one was
Susan Susan Olsen. The middle one was

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Eve Plumb. Yes, what's look
at what? You got a look at

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Plumb? And then she was a
Marine McCormick, Marie McCormick. Yeah,

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he dated Marine McCarthy. And think
he went on a few dates with Marie

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McCormick. If I'm remember it right, yeah, grooving, I think so.

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I think I'm remembering that right.
I don't know. I'll ask him

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for like one minute. When you
first said it, I was like,

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what are the chances? And then
I was like, oh, because he

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was a famous actor, of course
he did. Of course he did.

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Yeah, that's so funny. It's
funny. I think Adam went to improv

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class with Eve Plump. Yeah,
she looked like she was like doing walking

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around. Yeah for a while.
And then I don't know what happened to

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little Cindy. I think she's doing
fine. Yeah. And then I used

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to love that when when they go
on vacation, like when they went to

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Hawaii. Oh that was the big
episode. And then they had like the

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talisman they get they got like a
tiki torch that they had a curse.

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Yeah, it was cursed. Yeah, it says I feel like a lot

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many people would say it jumped the
shark around that time. I would say,

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O contrere got better? I got
better? All right? Now,

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I could still hear that sting that
every time they'd show the tek Yeah,

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speaking of that, what about Bewitched? Were you to Bewitched? I loved

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Bewitched because I was thinking of that
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Right, it's so funny and I
dream of Genie. Oh yeah, I

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used to watch that too. Isn't
it funny that back then that high concept

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like people with magical powers, right, was big and we all bought into

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it. Yeah she's a witch,
sure, right, she's a Genie in

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prime time? Yes, yeah,
those are the biggest shows. Yeah,

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it was, yeah, on the
primetime schedule and then And I know this

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is a an Adam thing, but
it's mine too. I'm taking it back.

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Love Boat, I was love love
Boat and Fantasy Island me too.

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Fantasy Island was like and I feel
like that was Saturday night. That was

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a Saturday night Saturday Fantasy. It
was a love boat Fantasy Island and and

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what was the two like their husband
and wife? Oh us with Stephanie Powers

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and the yeah, oh something and
something. Yeah, look up Stephanie Power.

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Power is gonna drive Crazy And it's
spelled with an F because that's why

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I think I was named after her. Yeah, and it was a drama

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show in the eighties, and it's
not hard Castle and McCormick. It's like,

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right, I was gonna say heart, heart to heart. Yes,

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love Boat Fantasy Island, Heart to
Heart. That was set. That was

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a good time Saturday night for me. Oh me too. Yeah, my

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dad would watch those with me and
a lot I loved, like right from

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the beginning when they would when Fantasy
Island would open, You know what,

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it reminds me of uh White Lotus, where you're like, what's gonna happen,

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Who's gonna who's gonna come gonna face
which? How is this gonna fall

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apart? Like what's their fantasy and
how's it gonna go dark? I remember

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trying to figure it out, and
you'd always be surprised. My dad was

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on Fantasy Island really played an Italian
ambassador of course. Really. Yeah,

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he had like one or two lines
in Italian, and I just remember him

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like throwing his napkin down at a
dinner table and storming off. Yeah what,

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that's crazy. Yeah, yeah,
that's so cool. And I know,

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I know that was like the only
he did that. And he did

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a music video with Jermaine Jackson.
That's hilarious. How did he get that?

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He had an agent? Jack Scagnetti
was his name, Oh my god,

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classic, I know, and he
was his agent for years in the

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in the San Fernando Valley. But
you know, he never went on.

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He got an agent when we moved
to California and then just kept him and

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went on like maybe an audition here. But he was always like the Italian

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guy or whatever. But not always
because he really didn't work, but that

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that was like his thing, what
he would go out for. Yah.

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Yeah, yeah, because they need
somebody to speak fluent Italian. So right

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right, listen, getting an agent
is no small feat. Like the fact

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that he got an agent is pretty
big. Yeah. Back in yeah,

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I mean when we moved here in
the seventies, they got me an age

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and everybody in the family got an
agent. My brother Dave got an agent,

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my mom got an agent, really
yeah yeah, but then nobody worked

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and then it was just me going
out on auditions right until you were like,

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yeah, I'm done. It's I
got old enough. I'm gone,

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what the hell am I doing?
Like this is ridiculous. I did I

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ever tell you the story? I
know I've told this story, but of

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my first time I got I was
am seeing at the improv and this guy

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came up to me and said,
I want to send you an audition for

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a big show that's coming out on
NBC, which was called Townies, which

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was a show that came out and
Mollie ring Will all want to say,

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wasn't it Jenna Elfman, I don't
know, Oh yeah, the town was

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yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember. I remember that show.

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They were both in it, and
oh okay, okay, Well,

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so here's what happened. Oh my
god, maybe you just popped up on

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Google as part of the cast.
I don't know how that's funny. So

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I guess this isn't even really a
spoiler alert. No Stephanie Wilder and not

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Cat, not Stephanie. Uh.
But so I'm at the improp so I

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get I get offered this audition and
I'm like, oh, Okay, Now,

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something to know about me is I
was not a good actress, like

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at all. I could do stand
up and I could you know, I

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could be me, but I didn't
know how to act. And I had

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taken I want to say I took
a few some acting classes. I mean

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I don't want to I think I
took them before that, or maybe it

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was anyway, and I did not
do well in acting class. It was

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that whole thing where it lay on
the floor and pretendia bacon and I was

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every single thing. I felt full
body cringe, was just like this is

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so dumb, oh and doing scenes
and also my acting teacher was kind of

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mean. I mean, you're not
always mean, right are they always?

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So let's take the stick up out
of your ass? Like why do they

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got to be so mean and like
embarrass you in front of you, like,

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you know, so embarrassing And that's
once they feel like the the what

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they want to do is like tear
you down or something. Then they can,

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but where's the building back up part? Like good cults, they tear

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you down, but then they build
you up. Then they brainwash you into

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being part of the cults and make
you feel good. There's no feel good

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part. It's all negative. So
and I hated that, which is why

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when I teach writing, like I'm
the opposite. It's all about like making

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you feel good, because even if
you suck at first, you're not going

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to get better by being told,
well, this kind of side, like

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you're going to get better when you're
like, here's what's great about it,

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and here's what I want you to
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I just really didn't like it.
And I always even even if like I

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was getting a private which I sometimes
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coached, I never felt like,
oh I nailed it, Like I still

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always felt like this is this is
bad. Yeah. So I get this

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audition and I go into for the
read and apparently, and I can't remember

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this casting director's name, but she
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big, big, big shows.
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lines, and I think I'm good
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can give almost a pass, like
it's like, so she listens to me

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and she goes, well, there's
something there, but you're not you can't

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go like you can't whatever the thing
was. I'm trying to remember I don't.

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I did get the acting I did
get the audition for this Townies thing,

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and I look on the list and
it is like the biggest names that

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are going in for this, and
I was like, this is so sad.

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So then I do not get that
job. Catherine hair I want to

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say, her name is Catherine something
Harris. So I get another audition,

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though, and I go in for
her and she says, no, I

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can't. I can't send you to
producers. But do you? But you

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have no agent. She's like,
so I want I have a friend who's

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looking for people that you can go
in And I know I've told this story

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before, so I'm like, okay, great, I'm going to have my

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first interview with an agent. So
the agent says, you need to learn

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a monologue. Come in and do
You're going to perform a monologue and like

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meet the guys. I'm like,
okay, So I go to Samuel French

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bookstore get monologues. I'm not an
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I'm like twenty four maybe. So
anyway, I get this book and I

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look up. I learned this monologue. I memorize it. I am not

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good at it, but it is
memorized now that I'm thinking about it.

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I watched the CBS Morning Show thing
and you were so cute with your pigtails,

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like up on stage. If that
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up, I know. But like, if that's the age you were,

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like, you could have gotten a
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That's why I had already had LB
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was that me in that orange shirt. I was thirty nine, oh,

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thirty eight probably still yeah, but
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So in my twenties I was I'm
sure you were cute. Then I was

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cute, but that's all I had
going for me pretty much. And I

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was a decent stand up but I
was not. I was just like so

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always felt so self conscious. So
I go into this, I go in

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to meet and I'm so nervous.
I'm like the most nervous I think I've

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ever been in my entire life.
And I completely choked. So it's two

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guys and they're like, Okay,
so you're ready, and I feel so

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stupid. Oh and I need to
add I'm waiting outside to go in all

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by myself and everybody that's auditioning.
I can hear people. They're seeing a

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bunch of people and people are doing
the fake orgasm scene from When about Sally,

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So you just keep hearing people going
like and I'm like, oh god,

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like that was the hot right model
and I'm doing like I think it

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at an accent. It was like
some girl talking about her boyfriend at a

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bowling alley and she's like, from
the fifty It's just like what am I

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thinking about? Not modern at all? So, oh my god. So

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it's my turn, and they're like, okay, like whenever you're ready,

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Like they say hi to me,
and and I'm like, my mouth is

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so dry, so my mouth is
like I could barely talk. So so

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I I start right and it's oh
and I'm shaking. I'm shaky. I

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get like a few words out and
I'm like, can I can I stop?

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I was like, can I do
you have any water? Linette?

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This was one of the most embarrassing
experiences of my entire life, and and

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they everybody was so uncomfortable it was
like two guys that ran this agency and

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like their assistant, right, so
there's three people. And then the guy

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goes of course, of course,
yeah, and he brings me like a

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Dixie cup full of water and I
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it being a really small cup.
It was like a Nike weell and I

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just remember thinking like this is not
enough water. But like I take some

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SIPs of it, and they're like, okay, anytime you're ready to you

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ready to try again. They're so
nice, but they're looking at me like

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I'm an orphan, you know,
like all poor thing. We're not going

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to adopt you. But like so
I get through somehow, I get through

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it and it is terrible, and
they both they're like, thank you for

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coming in. Then I never heard
anything from any like really, yeah,

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so you never got an agent or
anything. I eventually did get an agent,

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but yeah, no, not when
I was just a comedian, right

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right, not interested. Let's take
a break. Yeah, that's for already

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twenty minutes into the Yea and Kaylin
has a pretty big story, but it's

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oh, yeah, but so but
you had an agent. I'm an agent

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when I was Yeah, well,
students I turned seven, Dorothy diotis agency,

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and yeah, I mean my dad
got me an agent, got me

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into SAG and AFTRA, which is
good. And I've still been paying my

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dues all these years. But you
have yeah, oh yeah, which is

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great because I have to get health
insurance, so I think there and I've

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had health insurance through SAGIN after it, so I don't know, we'll see,

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but but yeah, I've been with
I enjoy. You're going to have

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to book something because you have to
make the minimum. You have to make

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the minima. Yeah, unless you
made so much money as like a child

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actor, that you paid so much
money into the guild, they get lifetime

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and health benefits. Otherwise, no, yeah, they should put podcasting on

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there, you know, I know
radio and television like radio. Who does

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radio anymore? Yeah? But but
and I remember going on getting these little

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jobs and then as soon as after
I did the job, my parents took

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me to the unemployment agency to get
on unemployment. I would get an unemployment

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check. Isn't that crazy? That
is crazy? Yeah, because I worked

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like a day. And did they
put any of that money away for you?

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I think they did. I mean
I got my first car from right

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right, But that was about it. No. I mean, I don't

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even know how much money. I
didn't really make anything. You know,

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you should have sued them. I
know I did that too. I was

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in one episode of my dad's TV
show when I was like six, and

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it ended up getting my first car. You did, really see they put

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it away for you? Uh?
Wow, that's nice. Yeah, and

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I just threw old any money i'd
get over the years into that and then

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that ended up getting my first car. Well, see that footage is out

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there somewhere by the way. We
watched it a couple of times. What

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TV show is called The Magnificent Seven. Oh yeah, yeah, we saw

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him. Remember we saw pictures him
on the set. Yeah, that was

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on our old Instagram. Yeah yeah, I know, I know, so

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do we. We didn't say hi
to our peeps, not yet. We

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didn't. You could do it right
now. Let's say then, I want

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to hear Kaylin's story. Yeah,
It's it's a sad story. Uh,

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ash Ashley. I'm like, it's
really sad, Ashley, So share bear

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the I wanna Hershey, bar Kelly
Latti da Amy is a cut not Anna

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faris rollan Oni Aaron who is uh
Nikki, call your girls. We already

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we already shouted out. Leslie Acosta, Jacob is so growley and charming,

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uh Rita Rocks, Elizabeth Williamson's kids
in her basinet. We gotta maybe,

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we gotta check check change it up, change that up. Rita is a

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basset hound. Why you look at
so sad? Rita? Why you look

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at so sad? That's hilarious.
Athena, we love your dancing, and

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Polly, we love your pancakes.
To Zerrup and Valerie, Bubba Fenwick Katerina.

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Seriously, though, I can't change
that up. You gotta check your

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molar. Everybody check your molars.
Gabby and Missy ooh those two. Yeah,

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I'm worried. No award shows this
week, so no, they're out

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of work at the unemployment office.
Ishan vashpe that ass. And Kelly Brandt

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is not your aunt, but she
will give you a mentos, Yes she

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will. It's in her purse.
Check her purse, Rebecca, Alicia Cante,

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Leslie Corona's back as you were going
to find out. Sarah Stefano,

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she's our Paisano. And Aaron is
a dirty Sanchez. And Lynette does know

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what that means, Jennifer, get
up, Sandra. It's not easy being

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green, but you make it look
easy. Chris to get the strap.

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And Stephanie is a stinker wrinker.
So Caylin, what happened? What happens?

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So last week I spent three days
in the hospital with Blake. What

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yeah, And I'll just say now
that she's fine and back home. Still

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has some lingering effects. Oh my
god, what happened? Uh? So

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Tuesday, we woke up and Blake
was kind of like off balance, Like

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every tenth step she would take,
she would she wouldn't fall over, but

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she would, you know, kind
of like jolt and like catch herself and

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wear her Amy's mom kind of noticed
it in the morning, and then as

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I was taking her to school,
I noticed it a little bit when we

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were walking to school and she got
out of school and uh, I noticed

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her do it again, and I
picked her up from the classroom and walked

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away to go get ila with her. Did the teacher say anything that's I

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was like, I should go ask
the teacher. So I went back and

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I said, have you noticed Blake? It's been off balance today? And

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this teacher only had Blake for like
an hour because she stays extra and the

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teacher was like, yeah, I
have noticed, Yeah, she has been

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kind of like off balance today and
I was like, that's weird. So

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I pick up Ayla go home.
She's still doing that thing where she's just

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kind of catching herself every once in
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say, there's something going on with
Blake, Like she's not walking properly.

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And we test her, like we
have her walk back and forth and back

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and forth, and she's clearly like
something's going on where she's just kind of

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a little off balance. So Amy's
like, okay, I'm taking her to

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the er. And then I was
like, oh, this is I guess

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this is like more serious than I
thought it was. So Amy stayed with

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her at the er for hours.
I ended up driving over there later after

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her mom got back watch Aila,
So like seven thirty I got there and

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she was like in you know,
she was in the er, in that

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big giant hospital bed, and her
little body was so sad. Yeah,

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very she's three now, right,
she's three. Yeah, but she was

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happy. You know, she wasn't
acting strange at all. She was still

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cute, but it was just sad
to see her and there and uh so

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then we waited a while and then
the er trauma doctor came in and was

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like, all right, I want
to see her walk. So he put

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her down. She walked like a
couple steps and he was like, oh,

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yeah, there's something wrong, and
she's okay. Yeah, she's okay.

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down, then it might have been

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she was a bit traumatized from she
had to get a cat scan so they'd

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put an ivy in her, so
that wasn't Yeah, that wasn't good for

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her. They took her blood,
blood work, both of those came back

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and you know, nothing, They
didn't find anything. But when the doctor

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put her down to walk, she
was off balance. But her legs were

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also like trembling. So the doctor's
like, all right, we're gonna admit

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her because we don't know what this
is. It could just be the result

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of a virus or a cold,
or it could be the early stages of

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leukemia. Oh my gosh. So
I was like, oh fuck, like

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now that's all I can think of, right, So they admitted her,

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and then another doctor came the you
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and he was very nice and intelligent, and he helped kind of calm us

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down, like it's most likely just
a result of a virus. But she

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wasn't sick, Like there was no
days before where she was sick. She

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had a little cough one night,
which she coughs at night all the time

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anyway, because she sucks her fingers
and ends up making her off, So

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there was no indication that she was
sick. Doctor made us feel better.

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And then the next day she tested
positive for coronavirus, And so then I

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go like, you mean like COVID
And they're like, no, like the

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original coronavirus, not one of these, like mutated like the first one.

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Isn't that crazy? What the which
was gone? Which, of course,

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selfishly, I was like, wait, so does that mean Corona's back again?

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She was never sick, She never
seemed to be sick. People have

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been vaccinated though against the original one
and mutated. How does it what I

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don't understand. I was going to
say, it mutates, Like how does

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it? I have not you know, like did she get the original?

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No idea? Okay, but so
they so they then they were going to

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take her in for an MRI and
a spinal tap. Oh my God.

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And then another doctor came in and
was like, well, let's put a

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hold on that. I want a
neurologist to see her first. That took

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all day. Then just came in
like at night when I was at home,

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and the neurologist said, yeah,
I've seen this before. This is

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most likely just the result of a
virus. Like this thing happens where there's

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some kind of inflammation in their brain, it's sending the wrong signals to their

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muscles. It's like, this is
probably just the result of a virus and

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it'll go away on its own in
like one or two weeks. And this

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is after you found out she had
the virus of the coronavirus, Okay,

407
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,000
and that's kind of making sense.
Yeah, And so that calmed us down

408
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,680
a whole lot. Then she had
an MRI the next day. They didn't

409
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,079
find anything, so then they go, yeah, this is just the result

410
00:29:33,119 --> 00:29:36,960
of the virus. She's going to
be off balance for like a week or

411
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:40,119
two, but those she'll just get
over it. So we came home and

412
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:44,559
she's still been kind of falling a
little bit, especially when she wakes up

413
00:29:44,559 --> 00:29:47,079
from her nap. She's very kind
of unstable. Other than that, she's

414
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:51,480
doing pretty good. But yeah,
oh my god, Caitlin, how scary?

415
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:53,160
Yeah, it was pretty scary.
Well, as soon as the er

416
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,960
doctor said leukemia, then it was
like a whole nother thing. It wasn't

417
00:29:56,039 --> 00:30:00,440
until the neurologist saw that we were
all finally like, okay, this,

418
00:30:00,519 --> 00:30:03,319
we can kind of calm down a
little bit, right And how long until

419
00:30:03,359 --> 00:30:07,519
the neurologist saw her doing it?
Like what the fuck? I had the

420
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:11,599
same thing happened to me. I
was telling Kaylin literally exact same thing with

421
00:30:11,839 --> 00:30:18,440
LB when she was a baby.
She's probably like fourteen months she and one

422
00:30:18,559 --> 00:30:23,319
morning she woke up maybe she was
like eighteen months and she couldn't I can't

423
00:30:23,319 --> 00:30:27,039
remember exactly how old she was,
but she was had been walking plenty before

424
00:30:27,119 --> 00:30:30,960
that, and she just couldn't walk. Like I put her. We put

425
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,880
her put her down from the crib
or whatever, and she just fell down

426
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,440
and we were like, what the
fuck? So I called the pediatrician.

427
00:30:37,599 --> 00:30:41,400
Scary. I brought her to the
pediatrician and he said, you need to

428
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:45,359
take her to the too urgent care. No, he said, if she

429
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,920
doesn't, if she's not better by
tomorrow, bring her to urgent care.

430
00:30:49,039 --> 00:30:53,240
She wasn't better. Somehow, we
go to Urgent Care Urgent Care Caesar and

431
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,559
they're like, you need to take
her to the er. And John and

432
00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:00,680
I were like, wait what And
they said it could be a virus.

433
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:04,160
It was the exact same thing,
and they said called They said it could

434
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:11,960
be something called toxic cinovitis, which
is basically happens in little kids when they

435
00:31:11,039 --> 00:31:15,599
have a virus or a cold and
then it goes into their joints. They

436
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:19,519
said, like her head, which
is making her then she was walking,

437
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:23,200
but she would yes, she wouldn't
walk, So they said it could be

438
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:29,400
but but it also could be leukemia. Same thing. And I was crying

439
00:31:30,119 --> 00:31:33,359
and of course just catastrophizing and thinking
the worst. And then we brought her

440
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:37,839
to the er and then they couldn't
get blood because she was so anxious,

441
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,920
even as a little little little kid, that she wouldn't let them take her

442
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:45,680
blood. And they were trying to
hold her down and she was screaming,

443
00:31:45,359 --> 00:31:49,720
and then I was crying and it
was like a freaking nightmare. And I

444
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:56,599
remember they had tabloids. It was
early enough that you we didn't have smartphones,

445
00:31:56,599 --> 00:32:00,240
so I couldn't just like read my
phone, so they had. That's

446
00:32:00,279 --> 00:32:05,119
another thing like that I forgot when
Blake first went to the er and I

447
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:08,319
was home just watching Isla. I
just googled, like what could make my

448
00:32:08,839 --> 00:32:14,960
toddler start, you know, being
off balance, all the bad idea like

449
00:32:15,119 --> 00:32:19,960
brain tumor, neurological. I just
put my phone down, like that was

450
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,720
a mistake, right, right,
yeah, yeah, And then we were

451
00:32:22,759 --> 00:32:25,720
in the ear and Amy was like
googling things. This is after the doctor

452
00:32:25,759 --> 00:32:29,960
came in, and I was like, don't stop googling, just stop just

453
00:32:30,119 --> 00:32:32,039
that. Google'skno going to know more
than this. Doctor just talk to us

454
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,920
like this, don't do that.
So, yeah, don't do that if

455
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,799
you want to, but don't,
right, Yeah, Well, my thing

456
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:45,400
just came out that they eventually they
had to They had to medicate LB to

457
00:32:45,599 --> 00:32:49,519
get her to relax enough for them
to take blood. So they gave her

458
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,279
verse said, right, they calmed
her down, They calmed her down,

459
00:32:52,519 --> 00:32:57,279
she flapped her arm out for them. They got blood. It came back

460
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:01,440
all negative and then she started walking
on her own and they're like, yeah,

461
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:05,440
it was just a it was just
a result of the virus. But

462
00:33:05,559 --> 00:33:09,599
it was the scariest. It was
off like traumatizing a couple of days.

463
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:15,079
Really, I've never heard I've never
heard of this, like these kids can

464
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:19,799
get They called it blake with blake. It wasn't what Stephanie said. They

465
00:33:19,839 --> 00:33:27,160
called it viral ataxia. And then
it was funny actually because I was servicing

466
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,880
one of my pawn clients who's a
nurse, and she was asking me like,

467
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:30,599
oh, how's it going, And
I was like, oh, yeah,

468
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:34,279
my daughter, she's something called like
viral ataxia. I don't really know

469
00:33:34,319 --> 00:33:36,519
where it is that I forgot she
was a nurse. So she just looked

470
00:33:36,559 --> 00:33:37,160
at me. She's like, yeah, I know what a taxia is.

471
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:38,880
I'm a nurse. I was like, oh okay, So she was like,

472
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:43,799
yeah, I've seen that before.
Wow. Oh, I guess it's

473
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,680
kind of gosi. Yeah, but
why do they have to say leukemia?

474
00:33:46,799 --> 00:33:51,599
I know exactly. That's like the
thing, like right out of the gate,

475
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,039
I want to be on a need
to know basis, like if if

476
00:33:54,319 --> 00:33:59,039
it's probably not that, don't put
that word. Don't say that word out

477
00:34:00,079 --> 00:34:02,279
parents, right, and let's say
he's an er doctor. I'm sure that

478
00:34:02,359 --> 00:34:06,960
you've seen it before. Like why
yeah, why, I mean, come

479
00:34:07,039 --> 00:34:10,000
on, that's Fuck, that's just
I mean, it's on the one hand,

480
00:34:10,039 --> 00:34:13,599
it's good that they're taking it seriously
and not just like, oh,

481
00:34:13,679 --> 00:34:16,400
your kid's walking funny, I'm sure
it's nothing. But on the other hand,

482
00:34:17,079 --> 00:34:20,719
yeah, I mean, I feel
like they would have to give some

483
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:25,400
kind of more serious option as to
why yet we're going to admit uh them,

484
00:34:25,639 --> 00:34:28,559
you know, because otherwise if they're
like, oh, yeah, it's

485
00:34:28,599 --> 00:34:30,960
probably just a virus, they'll get
over in a couple of days, and

486
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:36,159
they wouldn't admit him to the hospital, right, that's true. Wow,

487
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,400
And they can't give her any there's
no antibiotics now, virus yeah, no

488
00:34:39,519 --> 00:34:45,440
anti virals for the corona nothing,
no pack slovid. It's so crazy.

489
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:51,719
That's so crazy. Yeah, yeah, that's crazy. Wow. How's Amy?

490
00:34:52,079 --> 00:34:54,119
Was? She really stressed out?
She actually was handling it very well.

491
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:59,159
She was very very you know,
calm and you know, straight to

492
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:00,519
the point at the hot spittle and
is doing very well. I think you

493
00:35:00,599 --> 00:35:02,800
kind of hit her more when we
got back and it was all over.

494
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:06,360
She kind of you know, waited
for it to hit her then. But

495
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,519
she's doing well now. Still worried, of course, but uh yeah,

496
00:35:09,599 --> 00:35:13,199
no, in the hospital, she
was. She was definitely more calm than

497
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,400
I was in that er room.
Ah, poor Caitlin breaks my heart.

498
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,920
I'm sorry I went through it.
I was just sad seeing her in that

499
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:22,880
big bed and in the hospital room
with the IVY hooked up to her.

500
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,239
And then when they they had to
put her out for the MRI too,

501
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:29,960
So that's weird to see her just
kind of like, yeah, you know,

502
00:35:30,199 --> 00:35:31,960
she was resisting it and then one
second she's resisting. The next second

503
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:37,400
she's just like passed out. Yeah, it was clunk clunk. Give her

504
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:43,760
a little propofol. She was probably
like, that's the best nap I ever

505
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:52,639
said, Wow, I love a
little propofol. So jealous. Maybe I

506
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:58,000
need an MRI. No, they'd
probably just make me lay still like I

507
00:35:58,159 --> 00:36:00,280
can't, I can't do it.
You gotta give me prom a fall.

508
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:07,079
Oh man. Well sorry, Cayln. Yeah, well you know it's I'm

509
00:36:07,119 --> 00:36:09,440
glad it's nothing serious. Yeah,
it's nothing serious. Well let's take a

510
00:36:09,639 --> 00:36:15,280
quick break and then we'll come back. Yeah, and we're back. We're

511
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:20,079
back. So I had a book
event. Yeah, I was just gonna

512
00:36:20,159 --> 00:36:22,599
ask you, yeah, busy little
bee. Yes, And some of our

513
00:36:23,519 --> 00:36:30,280
listeners came down my friend Melissa,
she's you can see her on the page.

514
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:35,519
And Heather pot came drove down from
Thousand Oaks. They these are my

515
00:36:35,639 --> 00:36:39,280
friends who have bad driving anxiety like
I do, and also love yacht rock

516
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:45,159
like I do. I love I
love both of these women. They're so

517
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:50,199
nice and anyway, so they braved
driving anxiety to come from Thousand Oaks and

518
00:36:50,679 --> 00:36:58,559
our friend Alex and Janet oh,
and Janet came with her twins, her

519
00:36:58,639 --> 00:37:02,599
twin boys. People that's so oddo
see me? Yeah, And it was

520
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:07,480
really really nice, it was fun. It's I don't I don't have like

521
00:37:07,519 --> 00:37:10,800
a lot of in person stuff books
because the problem with doing stuff in person

522
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:15,199
is you do have to bug people
to come otherwise. I remember doing a

523
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:20,000
book event for sippy cups, uh
where I was at this huge like Barnes

524
00:37:20,039 --> 00:37:22,960
and Noble. And if you ever
go to like Barnes and Noble where they

525
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:28,199
most big Barns and Nobles, they're
all big, have an area where people

526
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,519
come sign books and it's like a
big space with all these chairs. One

527
00:37:31,599 --> 00:37:37,639
guy came to see me and he
was homeless. So and that is not

528
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:39,719
like a stand up joke like that
is a true story. He was like

529
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:44,639
sleeping in the back, like you
know, yeah, nobody showed up,

530
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:50,039
and I mean it was some Barnes
and Noble out and I'm traumatized by that,

531
00:37:50,599 --> 00:37:52,480
so, like, I mean,
pretty much more traumatized than Kaitlin was

532
00:37:52,559 --> 00:37:58,480
taking his daughter to the hospital.
That was a really bad experience. So

533
00:37:58,599 --> 00:38:01,760
I just don't like, I'm not
interested in like if people go, oh,

534
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:06,960
come to a book signing at like
in Arizona. No, no one's

535
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:08,960
gonna come see me, but you
like the person we're asking for me.

536
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:15,719
It's just it's a weird thing.
But so I'm just mostly doing like guesting

537
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:21,800
on podcasts. There's a great podcast
that I did hosted by this woman named

538
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:27,320
Casey called Hello Someday. Oh yeah, it's really good. Yeah, Hello

539
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:32,400
Someday is a great one. And
the Sober Mom podcast, which I'm going

540
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:36,800
to tell you her and those are
both out already. Those are out,

541
00:38:37,159 --> 00:38:45,280
yeah, and those are like those
women, uh Suzanne Wherry. Her podcast

542
00:38:45,559 --> 00:38:50,679
yes is called oh she I think
sure. Her instagram is my kind of

543
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:59,320
sweet, so I think she has
another one, but her hold on a

544
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:06,559
second what And the CBS Morning show
is the Sober Mom Life. Yeah,

545
00:39:06,599 --> 00:39:09,400
link to it. Yeah, yeah, that's on our Facebook. But anyway,

546
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:15,760
yeah, those those so many like
people like us. Yeah yeah,

547
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:21,960
and great just just fun, good
podcasts that have like really nice communities,

548
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:25,360
right like ours. So that's like, as I'm saying, compared to when

549
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:30,199
my other books have come out,
podcasts weren't a big thing. Yeah,

550
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:34,440
so now it's it's different. Now. Yeah, it's almost like doing a

551
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,920
book reading, like resting. I'm
going to be on another podcast early in

552
00:39:38,039 --> 00:39:43,039
February called The Last Day. I
think I mentioned this last week. It's

553
00:39:43,079 --> 00:39:47,039
a pretty big podcast and it's a
it's a really it's a good podcast.

554
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:51,880
Anyway, whatever does it? Keep
looking for your episode of that other podcast

555
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,760
and he won't he's I don't think
he's put it out. Oh really,

556
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:59,119
I know I want it is going
to ask you when is that people are

557
00:39:59,159 --> 00:40:05,079
waiting? I wonder if. I
wonder if because I didn't kiss his ass,

558
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:10,000
he was so and you a kind
of challenged it a little bit,

559
00:40:10,159 --> 00:40:13,559
and maybe he doesn't like the fact
that I was like, I have no,

560
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,719
I don't understand what you're talking about, because you'd think it would definitely

561
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:21,840
be out by now. Yeah.
I have such a backup of but I

562
00:40:22,119 --> 00:40:23,960
kind of don't want to like email
the company and go like, hey,

563
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:28,360
are you putting my show up?
Because I'd almost rather than don't. But

564
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,480
you're right, it is kind of
like for would be funny at this point.

565
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:35,280
Yeah, it would be hilarious.
I'd put it on our Facebook page.

566
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:38,239
I know, I'd promote the hell
out of this. Maybe I should

567
00:40:38,679 --> 00:40:42,239
write to the guy and just go
like, hey, what happened to it?

568
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,400
I have a lot of people can't
wait to hear it. Unless somebody

569
00:40:45,599 --> 00:40:49,400
heard me talking about it and was
like, no, but I think that

570
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:52,400
would be a great story too,
though you should. You should email him

571
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,199
and report back and see what he
says. Yeah, that's that'd be a

572
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:59,719
good Okay, Yeah, okay,
I'm going to do that. Yeah why

573
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,280
not? Like I mean, didn't
you say he had a staff of people

574
00:41:02,559 --> 00:41:07,639
working for him, so many people? You never know, maybe somebody listened.

575
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:12,840
I did this other podcast that is
a top podcast. I'm not going

576
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:17,159
to mention what it is. And
here's why, because I was when the

577
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:22,199
guy mentioned me on his Instagram or
whatever. I went to his Instagram and

578
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:27,199
I I you know, if you
look at somebody's followers, some of these

579
00:41:27,199 --> 00:41:30,519
people have like so many followers,
and then you start investigating a little bit

580
00:41:30,559 --> 00:41:34,800
and you realize these are all bots. Rights I telling you about that now,

581
00:41:35,079 --> 00:41:39,679
every single one of his followers was
private, and every all and and

582
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:44,760
they were all a lot of them
had the same like a different picture but

583
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:49,639
the same description. You could just
completely tell that it was really they were

584
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,760
all fake. And I was like, and they all see and I'll tell

585
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:58,039
you why. It's these all these
people in this like business community and they're

586
00:41:58,159 --> 00:42:04,079
all like so and so's podcast,
thank you for putting out such a powerful

587
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:08,760
like they use these certain key words
that are almost like seo words that and

588
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:14,239
they all anyway, I was like, Wow, this person bought a shit

589
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:20,760
ton of followers and probably buys downloads
to his podcast because there I don't think

590
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,280
they're real downloads. And I'll tell
you why. His podcast is in the

591
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:27,440
top one hundred. So when I
got booked on it, I was like,

592
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:31,800
this podcast seems super boring and like
not my audience, and it's all

593
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:37,480
like business development kind of thing.
And he uh, it's similar to the

594
00:42:37,199 --> 00:42:40,880
guy John whatever his name is,
right, the one that we were just

595
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:46,639
talking about. What's that guy's name
again? John Edmunds Cosma Cosma, Yeah,

596
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:52,519
the Unimpressed podcast similar to that,
but this guy super super boring.

597
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:57,880
So I have noticed that in these
days, once I started paying attention,

598
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,880
a lot of podcasts by uh follow
I mean, I'm sure a lot of

599
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:06,880
people in multiple industries by followers and
downloads. I don't know about their downloads,

600
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:08,119
but I've noticed a lot of by
downloads. I know, but I'm

601
00:43:08,159 --> 00:43:12,719
not going to be able to actually
see that, you know, analytics.

602
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:19,440
But I have noticed small podcasts that
seem rather boring that have just tens of

603
00:43:19,639 --> 00:43:22,039
thousands of followers. And now I'm
wise and go, oh, those are

604
00:43:22,599 --> 00:43:24,719
those are gotten paid forwards. Before
I was like, oh, this must

605
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,760
be big, It's like no,
I've kind of wised up to looking at

606
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,320
that now, and I'll tell you
why I do this guy's podcast. It's

607
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:35,719
like a top Put it this way. This guy is ranked way higher than

608
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:42,440
Adam, Like, he's in the
top one hundred. Uh huh, he's

609
00:43:42,679 --> 00:43:46,639
in the He's in the top seventy
of all podcasts, right right. No

610
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:52,840
engagement. Not one person reached out
to me, not one Instagram, nobody

611
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,000
said hey I heard you on this
podcast. And I was like, this

612
00:43:55,239 --> 00:44:00,079
is this something is so fishy about
that. And if you go look at

613
00:44:00,119 --> 00:44:06,800
the podcast itself, there's also no
engagement on it, right, But there's

614
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:13,199
a lot of reviews and those seem
bought as well. They're very generic and

615
00:44:13,639 --> 00:44:17,719
it's and they're all like five stars
like nobody's which is just not If you're

616
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:22,360
that popular, right, you're gonna
have a lot of haters, right,

617
00:44:22,119 --> 00:44:27,320
Anything that's popular has people that are
like, why do you have this guest

618
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:29,920
on? Or that shocked or whatever? Right, that's what you know,

619
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,000
right, it's real. Yes,
you have people that are like I didn't

620
00:44:32,119 --> 00:44:37,320
like blah blah blah, No,
this was just all what an informative podcast.

621
00:44:37,559 --> 00:44:43,840
I feel so inspired by your your
guests, And that's on iTunes reviews,

622
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,119
on the iTunes reviews, on the
Apple podcast reviews. But then,

623
00:44:46,199 --> 00:44:51,440
like I said, just like zero
engagement, nothing back in like there's ways

624
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:52,920
that you can tell and I'm like, oh, this is all smoke and

625
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:58,480
mirrors, right, Wow, what
the I did not know that you could

626
00:44:58,559 --> 00:45:01,960
buy downloads? Yeah, you can
make it. You can fake that.

627
00:45:02,599 --> 00:45:07,639
That's crazy and I don't know,
like so if you're getting even if the

628
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:12,760
downloads are fake, I don't know
if that helps you make money, but

629
00:45:13,039 --> 00:45:15,559
I doubt But here's the problem.
Then, when you get ads on your

630
00:45:15,639 --> 00:45:21,599
show, nobody buybody's buying because nobody's
actually listening to the podcast. So then

631
00:45:21,639 --> 00:45:24,800
you just get dropped by all the
advertisement. Right, see, thank you

632
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:30,239
guys for buying all our stuff that
we that we promote. Yeah, yeah,

633
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:34,599
because we don't fake any of our
downloads, that's right, Yeah,

634
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:40,119
anyway we should. How much do
I know? It's probably very expensive.

635
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:46,039
You have to really invest. Yeah, that's crazy. There's also there's certain

636
00:45:46,199 --> 00:45:53,639
things where they call it advertising.
So this is like hard to explain and

637
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:58,599
I don't even really get it,
but you can. Basically it's buying downloads.

638
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:05,079
You can go to these like ad
companies that say you're paying for advertising,

639
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,360
and it's like, let's say it's
a campaign and you pay like three

640
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:15,199
thousand dollars and then they guarantee a
certain amount of downloads or subscribers to your

641
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:20,760
podcast. But like, how are
you guaranteeing that? Very grand? You

642
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:22,960
know what I mean, Like it
would have to be a decent podcast.

643
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:27,440
People are not going to just click
on links. So it's that I know

644
00:46:27,639 --> 00:46:31,360
for a fact that that's also faked. It's like you in the old days,

645
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:35,039
and I'm sure still now. I
mean, you can buy it's very

646
00:46:35,079 --> 00:46:38,320
easy to buy Instagram followers, is
it really? I know I always hear

647
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:42,880
that, and it's true. Like
Kaylin was saying, like I see these

648
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:46,039
people I don't know, like sometimes
they're TikTokers or they're just you know,

649
00:46:47,559 --> 00:46:51,800
influence or whatever. I'm like,
how the hell does this person have all

650
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:55,000
these followers? Like it just it
doesn't make sense to me, like,

651
00:46:55,679 --> 00:46:59,599
you know, like who is she? Like? I don't feel like sometimes

652
00:46:59,639 --> 00:47:02,880
it does, though. I feel
like there are people who have started podcasts

653
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:07,199
that buy all their followers and then
other people see that they have a bunch

654
00:47:07,199 --> 00:47:09,320
of followers and then they go,
oh, this is popular, and enough

655
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:14,880
people have that is actually generated a
you know, a sizable audience to make

656
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:17,280
it successful. So I don't think
it doesn't like not work. I think

657
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:20,960
it probably doesn't work a little bit. Yeah, I'm sure it does.

658
00:47:21,119 --> 00:47:23,000
But for the guy that I'm talking
about, not the unimpressed, but the

659
00:47:23,039 --> 00:47:29,000
other guy is not working right,
Like I couldn't find any real followers right

660
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:32,280
right, and he's not getting the
engagement yea. So like people I mean,

661
00:47:32,639 --> 00:47:37,639
if you're doing a podcast that's that
big, there's no possible way you're

662
00:47:37,679 --> 00:47:39,920
not getting a few people reaching out
to be it direct, messaging you on

663
00:47:40,039 --> 00:47:45,559
Instagram and going wow, thank you
for sharing your story something something. I

664
00:47:45,599 --> 00:47:49,239
mean. I've done much smaller podcast
than that one and gotten a lot of

665
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:53,119
like, yeah, people just going
like, hey, I listened to your

666
00:47:53,159 --> 00:47:55,639
episode. That was great. Just
you know what I mean. Yeah,

667
00:47:55,880 --> 00:48:00,280
yeah, it makes sense. Yeah, anyway, all right, all right,

668
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:05,079
god, this was super funny.
Got a special guest Thursday show,

669
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:09,360
Alison Rosen. Yes, I'm your
best friend. She's coming in studio.

670
00:48:09,639 --> 00:48:13,800
We've been trying to get her for
a long time and she finally was able

671
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,559
to make it work. Yeah.
Uh yeah, we'll get into it.

672
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:24,159
But also my friend and yours,
Adam Lerner, Adam Lerner, thank you,

673
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:27,920
thank you for that. Yes,
Adam Lerner. Adam's got a car.

674
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:31,000
Go to his website. Let him
help you take the pain at of

675
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buying a car. He could.
He will get you a much better price

676
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than you can get for yourself.
He'll figure out the financing for you,

677
00:48:38,079 --> 00:48:42,159
and he'll just make it all easy
and deliver it to your driveway. He's

678
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:47,400
yeah, he's helped a lot of
people. Also Marin from Sugar Skull.

679
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It's her bakery and gift shop on
the island of Kawaii. So if you're

680
00:48:52,079 --> 00:48:54,719
vacationing in Hawaii, check them out. And you could like and follow their

681
00:48:54,760 --> 00:49:00,679
Instagram page at sugar Skull eight oh
eight. Also Basic, she's not a

682
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basic bit, she's not. She's
awesome. She's got T shirts and mouse

683
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pads and mugs and she can make
you a T shirt. Tell her what

684
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you want on it, She'll design
it for you. Or you can peruse

685
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her site go to just Basic Becky
dot com or find her on Facebook.

686
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Also, if you're in Palm Springs
or Palm Desert go to Wilmanfrida. Yes,

687
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why wouldn't you? Food is so
delicious, so good, Oh my

688
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god, this salmon, I'm ridiculously
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689
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mention our show. Yeah, she's
a she's we love her. Also The

690
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Family Skeptical it's a podcast about raising
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691
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podcast and it's gonna make you feel
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692
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fit into one of those standard religions. And also Christine is with storybook

693
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694
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695
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696
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697
00:50:08,639 --> 00:50:12,599
Yeah, all right, it's everything, Thanks guys. Yeah, we

698
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love you your parent now, don't
f it up. It's good letting go.
