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Breaking down all the exes and oh's
it's Steve Rivera and Jagen Salvias. This

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is I on the Ball on Fox
Sports fourteen to fifty. Welcome back down

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in the ballind of Fox Sports fourteen
fifty. I'm Jacin Zalish sitting in with

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without my friends Steve Rivera, who's
on the road. But I do have

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another great friend here co hosting with
me today, Dave Silver from A formerly

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from k GUN and the U of
A working in as a as a fundraiser

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over there and now retired. You
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third part of my life, the
third chapter we're in that we're in that

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chapter. Yes. Anyways, we're
trying to figure out what's gonna happen next.

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But Dave, because he's retired,
was availble to come in and sit

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in with us for a couple of
hours. So having a great time with

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them. And now we've got one
with breaking news. This is I on

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the Ball breaking news on Fox Sports
fourteen fifty. All right, so we

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got some local NBA breaking news.
The Phoenix Suns and Mike Budenholz are closing

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in on a deal to make him
the next Suns coach for five they're reporting

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five years fifty million dollars. Dave, life is good for the NBA coaches

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the world. We can maybe have
Steve Kurr comments on at some point too.

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So they get their coach who won
an NBA title what a couple of

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years ago, then gets fired after
like maybe one year after he wins it,

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right, and then sits out for
a year, and here he is

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back with with the sons. Who
you know who orchestrated the Vogel exit?

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Did you guys talk about that?
Yeah? We're like yeah, I'm like,

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okay, who messed this up?
Right? I mean who messed that

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up? Nobody did. They've got
the three amigos or whatever you want to

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call him that, uh you know, should be leading the team, and

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they I don't know if they bring
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don't know. It was a it
was a mess from the get go.

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But you know, we're talking about
Mike Butenholzer from Holbrook, Arizona, small

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town up in northern Arizona. Like, Okay, how do you get to

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the NBA from there? Right?
I Mean it's like whoa yeah one,

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can you wikipedia him? Figure out
where he was. Yeah, I mean

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he went through I mean he had
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know if he was in the NBA. I'm assuming, you know, some

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connection there, got into coaching and
the next thing, you know, not

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only is he a NBA coach,
he was a fired NBA coach, won

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World championship, but now back and
now coaching in his own state. Similar

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situation. You know, he's with
Giannis. He's like, you know,

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one of the great players, and
it didn't work out. They had I

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don't know, they had a bad
stretch, and the Bucks have had a

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lot of injuries too, I think
getting a little bit older, so I

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don't know. He's kind of running
into the same situation in Phoenix. Yeah,

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with Kevin and Bradley Beal and that
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they're going to welcome in with open
arms because it just did not go well.

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You know, they bring they bring
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Kevin Durant, They've got Bradley Beal, They've got you know, argu Devin

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Booker, one of the great stars
and young stars in the NBA, and

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Devin Booker, and they were just
kind of middling, you know, all

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season long. Yeah, it just
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it really is. And we've seen
Durant kind of break down in the last

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you know, five years or so, and bro Booker's had his aches and

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pains, and certainly Bradley Beal didn't
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took him forever to kind of get
rolling. They were, they had a

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good stretch, but boy, they
they got run out of the playoffs just

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like that, Just like that.
There wasn't able to find exactly where he

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was, say he's from Arizona,
but oh yeah, on that same page

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it does say he is the head
coach of the Phoenix So already that's funny.

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Al right, Well, my Butenholzer, they haven't it's not been officially

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announced by the Son, but believed
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Phoenix Sun. That was fast.
I mean, Frank Bulgle got fired yesterday,

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so you certainly have to believe that
this this had been in the works

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for a while for sure. Yeah, all right. And some other NBA

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news, the Pacers head coach Rick
Carl Carlisle uh find thirty five k first

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public comments and criticisms of the officiating
during the series against the New York Knicks,

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right, he was shredding and then
he made the comment that, you

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know, the small market teams need
to you know, need to be taken

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care of better or whatever. And
you knew he was going to get fined.

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But I'll ask you, Dave,
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Adam, and Adam's a different than
I am, right. He's way more

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tolerant than I am. Right.
I wanted Patrick Beverley kicked out of the

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league for what he did, you
know, throwing the basketball not a fan,

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not once, but twice. And
then the thing that he did in

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the postgame presser. He got four
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know either of those were worth I
don't know, right, and I don't

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know what it is. I said
a season, but you know, because

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he's gone through this so many different
times. I mean, I was talking

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about the fact that the malice in
the Palace, right, the fight with

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the Pistons and the fans. I
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Mandalay as that thing erupted, and
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like, holy hell, So my
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the fans went to having seen that, and I'm like, you're not.

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You can't do that with fans.
You just can't. And I don't know

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how four games is enough for that. It hadn't to me, it had

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to be twenty. Now Adam disagree, he said, I maybe ten or

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whatever I said to me. Half
a season or a season. You just

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can't do that. It's just some
things that cross the line, right,

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I mean Charles Barkley, you know, back in the day. Things are

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much different in the eighties, and
there were fights almost every night, but

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not necessarily with the fans. Yeah, and so when the fans get invallved,

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that's where it's a little right icy, right, I don't know the

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right. And then Jamal Murray gets
one hundred thousand dollars for throwing stuff at

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the ref. I'm like, you
can't throw stuff at the ref. You

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know. Pete Rose poked a poked
an umpire and what are you losing?

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Like twenty games or something like that? Remember remember that in an argument and

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didn't poke him on purpose, but
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chest. It's like, okay,
you're out for twenty games, yea.

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And Murray throws some stuff from the
sidellines and I get it. He didn't

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hit the ref, but he's throwing
it at the ref. Yeah, and

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they give him a hundred thousand dollars. I said, you know that changes

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in his pocket, right, And
I'm waiting for a good baseball screening match.

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Haven't seen one. I don't think
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while. The baseball arguments with the
managers and the umps is usually classic television.

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It is a crazy moment, but
usually, you know, sometimes the

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players. I remember over the years, you'd see a player go back in

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the dugout and fire off some bats. Yeah, on the field, or

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Loop Panella would run on the tear
the bases out and throw the stuff.

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You know, that was great stuff. Yeah, you don't see what what

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Beverly did, especially with a fan. With a fan, that's the thing.

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And he had some explanation, but
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Not good whatever it is. All
right, it's going back to that Nicks

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and Pacers series game free tonight about
the tip off soon and then later tonight

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we got the Nuggets going to Minnesota
playing the Timberwolves. So okay, so

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the the the home team won the
two games in the next Pacers there,

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So that's fine. But you talk
about the Denver Nuggets and they lost two

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at home. They're in big trouble, big trouble. I was, I

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was shocking. I don't know.
Maybe I haven't watched enough Minnesota Timberwolves hoops,

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but they sure look good. Yes, and Anthony Edwards is amazing stories

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this morning about it, comparing him
to Jordan's already of course, so it's

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gonna be interesting to see how his
his career unfolds. Maybe this is his

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first big moment those I mean,
it's got to happen sometime, and they've

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got a lot of talent around him
and the Nuggets maybe they figured him out.

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I don't know how you guard Jokic, but he's already won his MVP,

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so he's got that racked up.
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that, you know, some that
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that quote unquote broke the code,
you know, on on Denver and figured

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it out, because to go in
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you you said your Broncos fan?
You still are you Nuggets fan too?

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No? I'm a Spurs fan.
Oh a little bit all over them?

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And you're a baseball fan of Who
Louis Cardinals. Woh, you are over

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he's speaking of the Spurs. I
did look it up. You must have

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missed it, but Budenholzer was with
the Spurs for like nineteen years. Is

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everything from like a video coordinator probably
at the beginning, Yeah, to be

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in one of Popovich's top assistants.
And there you go. So he's got

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that in his all right. So
he's got some chocolate chips in his in

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Okay, So let's see what he
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right? And then some last second
local news, the Cardinals have signed x

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Jags wide receiver Zay Jones. Okay, so if there's any doubt as to

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who the number two would be for
Kyler Murray, they got their guy.

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Yeah wow, I mean they got
a wide receiver room now for sure.

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Right, Marvin Harrison Junior and you
know all these guys speaking of staying healthy,

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man, I mean if he gets
hurt again, yeah, it doesn't

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matter who those receivers are, if
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healthy. Are you? Are you
a Kyler Murray believer? Like I said,

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when he plays, I am,
but you know he's been hurt almost

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every year. Yeah, so far. But he's fun to watch when you

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know he's he's never not going to
grow, he's not going to get taller

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if he could be helpful. But
it's gonna be fun to watch Marvin Harrison,

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that's for sure. Yeah. I'm
glad they got I was happy that

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they picked him up, you know, and not traded that pick. And

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just you know what, get some
excitement on this team, right, Get

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some guys that you can like,
as you say, Murray's hurt so often

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to saying like it's like he gets
hurt, it's like, okay, now

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who do you watch? Right?
Right? Who do you watch? You

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don't have a Larry Fitzgerald or somebody
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they got something like that. Not
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mean, but you know, I
pay enough attention to the Cardinals because they're

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you know, they're they're here to
know, to have an idea and to

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kind of like, okay, you
suck or you don't suck, right,

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right, and you know that division
is really good. Yeah, you know

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when you get the forty nine ers
in the rams every time you got to

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play him twice and you know you
gotta yet be able to compete. Yeah,

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exactly, all right, that's it. Okay, that's all we got.

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Got to mention. Arizona softball should
be getting started here pretty soon.

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I think it's uh maybe four o'clock
or for a thirty game tonight in the

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uh in the uh PAC twelve Softball
tournament. They've got UCLA, which is

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always hard, but you know,
they knock off few CLA they do something

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like that, and you know they're
trying to host, like like the baseball

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they're they're they're trying to host.
So I'm looking this up right here.

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It looked good last night. What
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three. They crushed Washington. Oh
no, they're the late game today.

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I take it back. You've got
you've got Utah taking on Stanford that starts

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at four thirty and then at seven
thirty. Uh, you've got Arizona and

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u C l A. But they
crushed Washington. Watching it last night,

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and speaking of coach Candrea, he
was there, yeah, up at Stanford

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and in the stands. They interviewed
him during the game. It was kind

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of fun to hear him, and
you know, put a lot of praise

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for Caitlin Love, former player,
and it was good. She's done a

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nice job. But the thing is, she hasn't done a spectacular job,

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right, she looks every bit like
she can. Uh, you know,

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she didn't make it. They didn't
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time since you and I were young. But uh, you know, by

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by all accounts, you know,
she she's well liked by the fans.

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She's she's running a good programs,
she's well liked by the players. You

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gotta have players, actually, in
some point, you gotta have pictures.

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Yeah, and that's where they've struggled, that's for sure. And you know,

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apparently some of the recruits coming in
include a really good picture which they've

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kind of had that reputation for a
number of players over the last few years

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and just hasn't panned out again.
Injuries and who knows why people come and

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go sometimes in college athletics, and
so she has to deal with that too.

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But you know, watching watching their
line up last night, it reminded

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me of some of those old Candrea
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somebody who could contribute, right.
There weren't any weak spots in the order,

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and they've got that. And not
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they've got it defensively as well.
They're a really good defensive team. They've

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had the Defensive Player of the Year
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know, you even get to the
bottom of the order and there's still got

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people who can hit, people who
can get on base. They're fast again,

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they're they're out there center field or
shocky you know, I asked Adam.

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Yeah, Danny Martinez, And you
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of Danny. I know we throw
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the next Mike Jordan one? And
I said, is I think it's Megan

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Shaki? Is at her name?
Megan Shakis? Is she you know,

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Caitlin Lowe, you know, running
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When you go to Hill and Brand
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on the on the scoreboard out there
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but do that. You help,
but think well, you know, two

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and when you come here, there's
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we used to joke about that with
even with the men's basketball, there's so

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many names in the rafters and the
next generation's coming in and it's hard to

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live up to that. It absolutely
is so. But anyway, so they've

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got they've got UCLA coming up.
You say, he was the conference champion,

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number one seed in the tournament.
Arizona came in as the five seed,

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beat the four seed Washington last night. But they played really well.

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They pitched well. Uh you know, one eleven to three, U says

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always formidable. So you never know. But you know, Arizona gets past

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this one, that might be the
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here. Nice. Yeah, because
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Corbett Field's a great home field advantage
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there's something special, you know,
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games pop up right right, So
we'll see what happens there. So keeping

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on that and then we'll be sure
to talk about it on Monday. All

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right, We're gonna go ahead and
take our our next break. We've got

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Kevin Guy. He's uh. He
and his wife own, you know,

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Kathy owned the Tucson Sugar Sculls in
the Indoor Football League. He's the longtime

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coach of the Arizona Rattler's multi time
champion. The two teams play each other

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today. I know Kevin doesn't have
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to beat the hell out out of
the Sugar Sculls. So we'll see how

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that goes. But we'll talk to
Kevin and see how things going on,

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both with his team and the Sugar
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fourteen fifty. Welcome back to On
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I'm your host, Jay Gonzalez,
my usual partner, Steve Rivera's on the

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road celebrating his birthday again one of
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our former former sports director at Kagan. Been a fundraiser with you a the

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last few years and now he's retired, he says, So we'll see if

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that's real. But U and on
the on the phone. We've got Kevin

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guy wearing two hats, right,
Kevin, owner of the Tucson Sugar Skulls,

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but also the head coach of the
air Zona Rattlers and your team.

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Two teams are coming together for big
game tomorrow. Kevin, how you doing,

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I'll do it great, guys.
Thanks for having me all. We

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appreciate you being on. So let's
first talk about your season so far.

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You're in the kind of unfamiliar position
of being three and three this deep into

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the season. I was looking at
the standings and those kinds of things,

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Kevin, and it seems like you
kind of created a monastery, went out

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and got all these new franchises,
new teams, and now they're good and

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they're they're making an impact in the
league. So tell us a little bit

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about the Rattlers and how things have
been developing for you guys. Well,

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let me let me address what you
said at first. You know, I

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do wear a couple of hats,
but I have not had any say at

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my dinner table in the last two
or three years. So these Gothy's definitely

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uh tightened tightened the ropes on me
here. But you know, just just

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looking at the league, you know, we we've really grown over the last

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few years. Uh. You know, I've played a you know, a

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small part and help them go out
and recruit some of these ownership groups and

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and and and try to put a
solid league together. And you know,

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but what's happened is is, you
know, I think when the Arizona Rattlers

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came uh to to the Indoor Football
League in twenty seventeen, you know,

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we left the Arena Football League,
which is now trying to start back up

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and they're not really doing a good
job of it. And you know,

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it bought some credibility to the Indoor
Football League. And you know, I

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think you saw some of the owners
decide, hey, we're gonna jump over

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to the Indoor Football League. Some
of the experienced coaches jumped over. And

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you know, we've created parody.
We've finally figured out parody. And when

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you look in the last seven years, we've had seven different champions and you

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know, for us this year at
the Rattlers, we you know, we

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really hit the injury bug right out
the gate. And I don't think I've

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ever had this many injuries in my
career. Right for over twenty years,

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going on twenty five years, you
know, and when you build a team,

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you build it down the middle with
your center, your quarterback, you're

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running back, and on defense,
your nose guard, linebacker, safety,

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and then you go out and find
the players that can play the perimeter and

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and right down the middle on both
sides of the ball is where we've had

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all our injuries. And we've had
about eight or nine injuries, uh in

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those areas, and it certainly has
affected our play early. But we've got

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back on the win streak the last
two weeks. We're still waiting on a

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couple of guys to get back in
the lineup, and we feel pretty good

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about where the direction we're heading.
And and you know, just you know,

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I talked to coach uh Billy back
last week. You know, he

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kind of hit the injury bug.
When you lose a quarterback in football is

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such a you know, league that's
driven by the quarterback position, and we

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both lost our quarterbacks early in the
season. Uh. I know he You

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know, Billy has been a phenomenal
head coach in this league. You know,

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you go back and you know,
one of the reasons why Kathy and

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I decided to hire him is because
his track record over the last couple of

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years, he was winning. His
coach over the last two years in the

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league, had the best record,
and you know he uh you know,

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lost his quarterback after I think,
I think on the third game, and

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and has been struggling but also changing
his roster in and out. So but

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it's really about how you play.
You're not gonna win the championship and and

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and and uh you know, March
April May. It's really about June,

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July and August and and uh,
you know, two experienced coaches here,

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we understand that, uh both you
know, this game tomorrow night is such

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a big game for for for both
franchises. So you know, we'll see

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who got healed up the most the
most after a bye week. Last week,

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both teams were on a bye week. So uh, I'm sure that

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he's got got some surprises for me
and I got a few for him.

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So it should be a great game. You know, you mentioned you know,

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your your your wife Kathy, who
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and uh, you know, this
is the fifth year of the organization,

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which just that in itself says a
lot about the fact that you guys

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have been able to you know,
to keep this uh, keep this franchise

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here and keep it, keep it
going, and keep it busy. People

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are coming out to the games.
But you come to a week like this,

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Kevin, do you become more of
a Rattlers coach and less paying attention

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to the Sugar Skulls or you know, how how does that work for you

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kind of being in the middle of
all this. Well, I think the

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plan originally was, you know,
we were winning a lot of championships,

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you know in Phoenix, and my
owner, Ron Shirts, was only about

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build a brand, build a brand, and you know, he wanted me

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to also work on my personal brand
and uh, and he's a great guy

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to work for, and and we
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I went to him with an idea
of years ago, back in eighteen and

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and I just said, hey,
I think if if we could put a

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team in two soon, Me and
Caafy just really loved to So we were

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doing a lot of vacations and tucsone
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just graduated last night from the u
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was going to get turned over to
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but you know, at the same time,

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00:25:37.720 --> 00:25:40.759
it was a blow to everyone and
and just the timing network out.

407
00:25:40.759 --> 00:25:44.920
But you know, we really appreciate
everyone and Tucson that that has supported the

408
00:25:44.960 --> 00:25:48.039
team and and uh and that's what
we signed up for. We signed up

409
00:25:48.039 --> 00:25:51.480
for five years, you know,
with with with the with the least with

410
00:25:51.519 --> 00:25:55.680
a TCC, and we wanted to
see how it would work in the community,

411
00:25:55.759 --> 00:25:59.559
and and uh you know I know
that. Uh you know, I

412
00:25:59.400 --> 00:26:02.599
I as as I'm slowly kind of
back down, and I still come down

413
00:26:02.640 --> 00:26:06.480
in the off season and help with
some of the sales and business and and

414
00:26:06.480 --> 00:26:07.680
and and it's tough. I mean
I will I'll be the first one to

415
00:26:07.720 --> 00:26:11.240
met when when we play in Phoenix. It's just another game for me in

416
00:26:11.279 --> 00:26:15.359
that building. Uh that's what it
feels like to me when I come to

417
00:26:15.359 --> 00:26:19.960
Tucson and you know, I'm coaching
my team and you got Kathy that has

418
00:26:19.960 --> 00:26:23.559
her team, and and you're sitting
down on that field and you're you're coaching,

419
00:26:23.599 --> 00:26:26.680
and then you know, you look
up and you see a guy that

420
00:26:27.039 --> 00:26:32.240
you sold a sponsorship to or some
season tickets to. I mean, you

421
00:26:32.279 --> 00:26:34.200
know, it's it feels different.
You know, it feels tough, and

422
00:26:34.200 --> 00:26:38.000
and uh you know, Uh that's
why we've always tried to go out and

423
00:26:38.039 --> 00:26:41.119
hire a coach and let him coach
the team. Uh. I don't have

424
00:26:41.240 --> 00:26:45.599
anything to do with football, and
uh, other than discussing the hiring.

425
00:26:45.640 --> 00:26:51.119
When when when when Kathy is going
to offer the job. But once the

426
00:26:51.160 --> 00:26:53.480
coach is hired, it's it's his
team. And and you know, uh,

427
00:26:53.720 --> 00:26:56.920
certainly, you know, if anybody's
got and and I spent a lot

428
00:26:56.920 --> 00:27:00.920
of time, whether it was Dixie, whether it was seeing coach Coleman,

429
00:27:02.279 --> 00:27:06.960
any of those guys have always had, you know, uh, the opportunity

430
00:27:06.960 --> 00:27:08.920
to pick the phone up and call
me and ask my advice if they needed.

431
00:27:10.000 --> 00:27:12.359
If I don't hear from them,
I assume everything's going well. Uh.

432
00:27:12.400 --> 00:27:15.359
But the focus has been more on
the business side. And and and

433
00:27:15.680 --> 00:27:19.319
we really appreciate too soon. We
really love being down there, and I

434
00:27:19.359 --> 00:27:23.319
think it's great for the community.
So tell, how do you feel this

435
00:27:25.200 --> 00:27:27.799
rivalry that you know, you want
it to be a fierce rivalry between the

436
00:27:27.880 --> 00:27:30.440
you know, the two cities,
but then you've also got Northern Arizona up

437
00:27:30.440 --> 00:27:34.079
there. How do you think the
rivalries have developed, uh with these three

438
00:27:34.079 --> 00:27:40.559
teams in the state. You know, that's a great question. I you

439
00:27:40.559 --> 00:27:45.799
know, I We've had our way
uh with with with Northern Arizona in regular

440
00:27:45.880 --> 00:27:48.880
season, but we've struggled, you
know, twice, they've beaten us in

441
00:27:48.880 --> 00:27:52.200
in the playoffs at the at the
Rattlers. You know, Northern Arizona and

442
00:27:52.240 --> 00:27:56.119
Tucson I think have developed into a
great rivalry as well, I don't know

443
00:27:56.160 --> 00:28:00.519
who's one more. I would say
it's probably around five. Maybe one team

444
00:28:00.799 --> 00:28:04.440
has a win, maybe one more
win than the other. But uh,

445
00:28:06.160 --> 00:28:08.599
you know, I think that one
was the one that kind of caught everybody

446
00:28:08.640 --> 00:28:11.960
by surprise. It was because they
went out and hired you know, less

447
00:28:12.079 --> 00:28:18.920
boss. He was approven, experienced
Arena Football League coach and and uh uh

448
00:28:18.960 --> 00:28:22.759
you know, he came in and
hired one of the coaches off my staff,

449
00:28:22.839 --> 00:28:26.839
Rod Windsor, and and I had
actually talked to Rod Windsor, uh

450
00:28:26.960 --> 00:28:30.039
sat down, you know, he
played for me, he's he's worked for

451
00:28:30.079 --> 00:28:33.279
me on the coaching staff, and
I originally talked to him about being a

452
00:28:33.319 --> 00:28:37.640
Tucson head coach before uh we moved
on to Billy. But Rogers, you

453
00:28:37.680 --> 00:28:41.319
know, Rod felt like he needed
another year of being an assistant coach before

454
00:28:41.319 --> 00:28:45.359
he felt like he was ready to
be a head coach. And and and

455
00:28:45.400 --> 00:28:48.839
then uh, you know, Billy
came available. But I think that rivory

456
00:28:48.000 --> 00:28:52.200
in state. I mean, when
you look across the United States, Arizona

457
00:28:52.319 --> 00:28:56.400
is the only state in the country
it's got three teams. And you know,

458
00:28:56.640 --> 00:29:00.319
we recruit nationwide, so it's not
about just getting you know your players

459
00:29:00.319 --> 00:29:06.440
from a pool of players from the
state of Arizona. But certainly it helps

460
00:29:06.480 --> 00:29:10.079
when, uh, when you find
a local player. But I think this

461
00:29:10.359 --> 00:29:14.839
the state has really taken to the
Indoor Football League and and UH and the

462
00:29:14.920 --> 00:29:18.480
league, and it's really helped the
league continue to grow. All right,

463
00:29:18.559 --> 00:29:21.079
So tomorrow, Oh go ahead,
Dave. I was just gonna ask you

464
00:29:21.079 --> 00:29:25.480
mentioned the players. I've always been
curious is where these players are coming from

465
00:29:25.519 --> 00:29:27.160
and how you do scout them?
Do you? I mean, where do

466
00:29:27.200 --> 00:29:30.880
you look? Where do you look
to first to find players for indoor football?

467
00:29:33.440 --> 00:29:38.759
Well, that's great question. You
know, traditionally I can only speak

468
00:29:38.759 --> 00:29:42.160
how I do it. You know, other coaches may have a different philosophy.

469
00:29:42.200 --> 00:29:47.519
But I go after NFL cut guys
and what's best of left over from

470
00:29:47.559 --> 00:29:51.359
college football. And you know,
there's plenty of football players out there.

471
00:29:51.359 --> 00:29:55.039
There's a lot of schools to play
football, and you know, it's really

472
00:29:55.480 --> 00:29:57.960
this. I've always told people that
our league is a league of opportunity.

473
00:29:59.039 --> 00:30:04.200
It's a developmental league. And you
know you've seen the XFL, the USFL.

474
00:30:04.400 --> 00:30:07.279
You know that now they've merged,
but you see those type of leagues

475
00:30:07.359 --> 00:30:11.240
start up and it's hard enough to
run a team, much less to run

476
00:30:11.279 --> 00:30:15.359
a whole league. So UH and
and and teams seem to always go out

477
00:30:15.599 --> 00:30:19.119
right away. We're gonna pay the
coaches X, We're gonna pay the players

478
00:30:19.240 --> 00:30:22.160
X. But they haven't sold one
ticket, one sponsorship. And you got

479
00:30:22.160 --> 00:30:26.319
to find a way to put butts
in seats and and uh and pay the

480
00:30:26.319 --> 00:30:30.160
bills if you're going to run run
a league. So sometimes I think these

481
00:30:30.160 --> 00:30:33.039
other leaguess get too far ahead of
themselves. They put the horse the cart

482
00:30:33.079 --> 00:30:37.400
before the horse. And but you
know, we we you know, at

483
00:30:37.400 --> 00:30:41.240
the Rattlers. Since I've been the
head coach, we've put fifty four players

484
00:30:41.240 --> 00:30:45.279
in the NFL. We've probably doubled
that uh for players that went on and

485
00:30:45.319 --> 00:30:49.200
played it, you know, like
Canada or XFL USFL. So we've always

486
00:30:49.200 --> 00:30:52.480
looked at ourselves as the developmental league. We got a great business model.

487
00:30:52.480 --> 00:30:56.839
And that's why you see these teams
stay uh in business. And you know,

488
00:30:57.000 --> 00:31:02.440
we're committed, you know, to
UH to making this league work.

489
00:31:02.480 --> 00:31:06.720
And you know, we have owners
calls probably every two weeks across the country,

490
00:31:06.759 --> 00:31:10.880
and you know, we got some
exciting news that's gonna come out,

491
00:31:10.960 --> 00:31:14.880
you know, next year, you
know that we're gonna announce going into our

492
00:31:14.920 --> 00:31:18.160
season. So we just continue to
grow. And you know, you know,

493
00:31:18.599 --> 00:31:23.000
Jay was with us those first couple
of years at the Sugar Sculls and

494
00:31:23.279 --> 00:31:29.440
and he's certainly seen this this league
grow, and you know, but I

495
00:31:29.480 --> 00:31:33.480
do think it's it's in a great
space for entertainment and Tucson when in the

496
00:31:33.519 --> 00:31:37.400
spring summer, you know, in
between the two sports and when things get

497
00:31:37.400 --> 00:31:40.559
hot outside and it's one hundred and
ten, one hundred and fifteen, and

498
00:31:40.559 --> 00:31:44.200
people want to come in and air
condition and and and and have a drink

499
00:31:44.200 --> 00:31:45.720
and watch a football game. And
you know, it's more than just a

500
00:31:45.720 --> 00:31:51.359
football game, which it's about,
you know, the the engagement for the

501
00:31:51.359 --> 00:31:53.680
fans, the fan experience during the
game, and we try to make the

502
00:31:53.720 --> 00:31:57.720
game exciting as possible. So it's
you're not just coming to watch a football

503
00:31:57.720 --> 00:32:00.960
game. It's like maybe, I
mean, you know, to watch an

504
00:32:01.039 --> 00:32:05.680
entertainment event and you got a football
game going on at the same time.

505
00:32:06.039 --> 00:32:07.920
Now, I'm gonna I'm gonna bring
this up to that I'm I'm gonna guess

506
00:32:07.960 --> 00:32:12.519
you're you're not gonna feel horrible about
this, but you know, the Roadrunners.

507
00:32:12.519 --> 00:32:15.119
It looks like they're headed out of
twoson that might be a little bit

508
00:32:15.200 --> 00:32:20.480
less competition for the entertainment dollar,
at least at the beginning of your season.

509
00:32:20.880 --> 00:32:22.240
What kind of impact do you think
that can have when you guys down

510
00:32:22.240 --> 00:32:29.400
the road, Well, it's gonna
be interesting, you know. And and

511
00:32:29.519 --> 00:32:31.079
who knows what's gonna happen with the
road Runners. I mean, you know,

512
00:32:31.359 --> 00:32:35.119
they say they're leave it, they
say they're staying. You know,

513
00:32:35.319 --> 00:32:38.119
I I'm for anything that's good for
two Soon, And if that means the

514
00:32:38.200 --> 00:32:42.599
road Runners staying, I would,
you know, certainly love to see that.

515
00:32:42.880 --> 00:32:46.039
You know, I've always had a
healthy relationship with Bob, and you

516
00:32:46.079 --> 00:32:50.680
know, I think the road Runners
have been good for uh, you know,

517
00:32:50.799 --> 00:32:53.920
for two Soon and and but you
know, if they decide to leave

518
00:32:54.000 --> 00:32:58.480
and and and certainly you know,
it's funny because you know, when when

519
00:32:58.519 --> 00:33:01.000
some of that stuff started, we
started getting a lot of emails like we

520
00:33:01.000 --> 00:33:05.839
were getting blamed. This blew my
mind. We were the Sugar Skulls was

521
00:33:05.839 --> 00:33:07.880
actually getting blamed for the road Runners
leaving. And I was like, we

522
00:33:07.960 --> 00:33:09.960
got nothing to do with it,
you know that, you know, we

523
00:33:10.039 --> 00:33:14.799
heard, we heard the news when
everybody else heard the news. But you

524
00:33:14.799 --> 00:33:16.920
know, I thought that would but
I'm sure if we are some of our

525
00:33:16.920 --> 00:33:22.039
fans would probably think that had something
to do political if if something happened with

526
00:33:22.119 --> 00:33:25.200
us. But you know, the
truth of the matter is, you know,

527
00:33:25.440 --> 00:33:30.079
Tusigon has always been in college town. And and what I've found through

528
00:33:30.079 --> 00:33:34.440
the years is there's a lot of
people that have made this comment to me,

529
00:33:35.640 --> 00:33:37.640
you know, through the years that
hey, you know, everybody loves

530
00:33:37.720 --> 00:33:39.960
U of A. We love U
of A. Our daughter just graduated the

531
00:33:40.039 --> 00:33:43.519
last night from U of A.
We love U of A. But some

532
00:33:43.559 --> 00:33:45.799
people get tired of just watching college
sports and they want to they want to

533
00:33:45.799 --> 00:33:50.720
see some type of other entertainment.
I think the Roadrunners and Sugar Skulls,

534
00:33:51.039 --> 00:33:55.000
you know, has brought that to
Tucson, and you know, and given

535
00:33:55.240 --> 00:34:00.160
given the fans of Tucsigon, you
know, a different experience. So you

536
00:34:00.200 --> 00:34:05.359
know, if they move on,
and obviously we would be at the time,

537
00:34:06.599 --> 00:34:09.599
you know, the the only tenant
that uh that that that would be

538
00:34:09.599 --> 00:34:14.039
at the TCC. But I think
the t c C would probably tell you

539
00:34:14.159 --> 00:34:17.000
that, you know, they would
like to bring more concerts in and and

540
00:34:17.000 --> 00:34:21.760
and in in that space so that's
usually what the buildings do. I don't

541
00:34:21.800 --> 00:34:25.039
know, I haven't talked to them
about it, but you know, you

542
00:34:25.079 --> 00:34:28.280
just you just never know how it's
gonna fact. And you know, for

543
00:34:28.440 --> 00:34:31.719
us, the Tucson Sugar Sculls,
we've been really working hard. And Jay,

544
00:34:31.719 --> 00:34:35.880
We've had a lot of offline conversations
about this, but we've been really

545
00:34:35.920 --> 00:34:39.039
working hard to try to put the
Sugar Skulls the only sports team in Tucson

546
00:34:39.159 --> 00:34:43.800
that qualifies for a gaming license.
We have really been working hard on that

547
00:34:43.800 --> 00:34:47.320
for over over three years now.
And uh, and and it's one of

548
00:34:47.360 --> 00:34:52.519
those deals where just where's where's you
out with with with how political it is

549
00:34:53.239 --> 00:34:58.480
and and uh, but that that's
something that's doable and uh, you know,

550
00:34:58.519 --> 00:35:01.320
I see it being a positive thing
because it keeps the dollars in Tucson.

551
00:35:01.559 --> 00:35:06.559
And and so we'll continue to work
on that and hopefully we'll have this

552
00:35:06.599 --> 00:35:07.800
wrapped up in the next six months. All Right, Well, a big

553
00:35:07.840 --> 00:35:13.800
game, big game tomorrow at the
at the Arena. Twoson Sugar Sculls Arizona

554
00:35:13.880 --> 00:35:17.880
Rattlers. Should be a lot of
fun six oh five at the Arena.

555
00:35:17.960 --> 00:35:22.599
Tickets can be gotten on the Sugar
Sculls website, or you can just go

556
00:35:22.159 --> 00:35:25.360
walk up and get yourself a ticket
to hang around. Should be a lot

557
00:35:25.400 --> 00:35:28.519
of fun. Looking forward to the
game, Kevin, I'm not going to

558
00:35:28.559 --> 00:35:30.039
ask you for a prediction because I
know you'll say we're gonna kick their butts,

559
00:35:30.039 --> 00:35:37.000
but I don't know. Hey,
I got some game time decisions.

560
00:35:36.760 --> 00:35:39.199
You know. I think that favorites
the Sugar Sculls for sure. All right,

561
00:35:39.280 --> 00:35:43.519
Kevin, Well, good luck tomorrow. I guess you know, I

562
00:35:44.239 --> 00:35:45.480
no, you know what not good
luck? Hope. I'm hoping the Sugars

563
00:35:45.480 --> 00:35:49.480
Caills beat you guys. I'll just
be rude and say that I hope,

564
00:35:49.519 --> 00:35:52.800
I hope they sell it out,
and I hope everybody screams and yells at

565
00:35:52.840 --> 00:35:57.159
me for three hours. So I
would love to see a great atmosphere down

566
00:35:57.159 --> 00:35:59.480
there. All right, sounds great, Kevin, Best of luck, say

567
00:35:59.519 --> 00:36:02.000
Hyars house for me, and congratulations
on your daughter graduating. She was a

568
00:36:02.000 --> 00:36:06.280
little girl when I met you,
guys, so it's hard hard for me

569
00:36:06.320 --> 00:36:09.480
to believe she's already a college graduate. Unbelievable. Right, she got her

570
00:36:09.519 --> 00:36:15.519
degree in law and minor Spanish and
and uh sports management. So I'm excited

571
00:36:15.679 --> 00:36:19.320
for proud dad, gratulations he's worked
hard for. Yeah, proud dad.

572
00:36:19.480 --> 00:36:22.559
All right, Kevin, thanks a
bunch of you tomorrow, Thank you,

573
00:36:22.639 --> 00:36:24.840
see you guys, thank you.
That's Kevin guy Uh, head coach of

574
00:36:24.880 --> 00:36:30.760
the Arizona Rattlers, owner with his
wife Kathy of the Tucson Sugar Skulls,

575
00:36:30.800 --> 00:36:34.679
and it all comes together at their
enda tomorrow. We we didn't even know,

576
00:36:34.719 --> 00:36:37.800
you know, I was with them
the first year and we weren't even

577
00:36:37.800 --> 00:36:40.000
trying to handle that, right,
how do you handle this? And we

578
00:36:40.039 --> 00:36:43.559
had, you know, we had
some discussions about okay, let's do let's

579
00:36:43.599 --> 00:36:45.000
not do this, let's do this. And I think it's come to a

580
00:36:45.039 --> 00:36:49.119
point for now. He's the coach
of the Rattlers. They're playing the Sugar

581
00:36:49.119 --> 00:36:52.159
Skulls, and that's that's it.
It's a big family affair. It's good

582
00:36:52.159 --> 00:36:54.840
that the franchise is you know,
stable, it seems like. And you've

583
00:36:54.840 --> 00:36:59.320
got some good leadership. Yeah,
in both areas with with the wife and

584
00:36:59.599 --> 00:37:01.119
yeah, so all right, they've
come a long way. Yeah, Okay,

585
00:37:01.239 --> 00:37:04.679
take our last break. We'll be
back. We'll take your calls.

586
00:37:04.719 --> 00:37:07.360
Five two zero four one, six, seventy four forty how's reminded. The

587
00:37:07.360 --> 00:37:10.840
guy who's trying to think of is
Ross Tucker. There you go to announce

588
00:37:10.880 --> 00:37:15.000
her. The guy who was on
Dan Patrick's show talking about this NBA NFL

589
00:37:15.079 --> 00:37:19.639
thing but played at Princeton, played
in the NFL, and he was the

590
00:37:19.639 --> 00:37:23.000
one who said that Austin Rivers is
full crap. Okay, all right,

591
00:37:23.079 --> 00:37:25.880
let's take our break. Five to
two zero four one six four forty Fine,

592
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Ball. Welcome back to all here on

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Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm jacon
Zales, my usual host. Co host

636
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Steve Rivera is on the road for
one more day. He will be back

637
00:40:51.320 --> 00:40:53.920
on Monday. He's celebrating his birthday
in Vegas, so I guess we'll let

638
00:40:54.000 --> 00:41:00.239
him do that. I've got Dave
Silver. A lot of you want to

639
00:41:00.280 --> 00:41:02.119
say, the older folks, but
you know, our generation guys know you

640
00:41:02.239 --> 00:41:06.159
was the former K gun sports structor
for a lot of years through the eighties

641
00:41:06.199 --> 00:41:08.280
and nineties into the two thousands,
Right, it was a long run.

642
00:41:09.000 --> 00:41:13.679
Like I said, I got here
in eighty three Olson's first year, Cats

643
00:41:13.719 --> 00:41:15.039
were in the top five, I
want to say, in the rankings,

644
00:41:15.079 --> 00:41:19.239
and then they lost or they tied
California. I remember as we were moving

645
00:41:19.440 --> 00:41:22.840
to that season. Yes, Ricky
Hunley senior year, Yes, so I

646
00:41:22.000 --> 00:41:24.480
got to witness all that. It
was a great It was a great time,

647
00:41:24.559 --> 00:41:28.880
and like I said earlier, it
was kind of a just a good

648
00:41:28.960 --> 00:41:31.599
time just to kind of be here
as the program was growing and these coaches

649
00:41:31.639 --> 00:41:36.400
were arriving and things started to build. Yeah, and it's built to now

650
00:41:36.679 --> 00:41:38.760
they're headed to the Big Twelve.
Yeah, so that's the end. And

651
00:41:39.079 --> 00:41:43.159
yeah, so that's why I wanted, you know, fer Antonia, I

652
00:41:43.239 --> 00:41:47.800
wanted to bring something up. What
are you most looking forward to and going

653
00:41:47.840 --> 00:41:52.199
to the Big Twelve and what are
you most dreading about going to the Big

654
00:41:52.280 --> 00:41:53.800
Twelve? If there is anything.
Yeah, I don't know if I'm really

655
00:41:53.920 --> 00:41:57.920
dreading. I think, you know, we're not players, we don't have

656
00:41:58.000 --> 00:42:00.719
to worry about the travel situation.
I'm I'm kind of just anxious to sort

657
00:42:00.760 --> 00:42:05.960
of see how the schedules are going
to play out. Particularly basketball. We're

658
00:42:06.000 --> 00:42:09.199
so used to kind of having you
know, the Thursday Saturdays or Wednesday Sundays

659
00:42:09.280 --> 00:42:12.840
kind of games, and I guess
the Big Twelve, they seem to play

660
00:42:12.840 --> 00:42:15.599
a lot of games on Mondays every
day of the week, and Wednesdays in

661
00:42:15.679 --> 00:42:19.679
the league is so so huge that
yeah, I think we're gonna have to

662
00:42:19.719 --> 00:42:22.880
get used to that. I'm hate
to say this, but I'm kind of

663
00:42:22.920 --> 00:42:25.360
glad the PAC twelve network is not
going to be involved anymore. And I

664
00:42:25.480 --> 00:42:29.599
do have ESPN Plus right, which
I think many of the games will be

665
00:42:29.679 --> 00:42:34.639
on there. So that's going to
be good obviously, just new teams coming

666
00:42:34.719 --> 00:42:38.679
in us going to visit these places
that we've never been. But look,

667
00:42:38.840 --> 00:42:42.320
just looking at the basketball, it's
going to be phenomenal. So, Okay,

668
00:42:42.400 --> 00:42:45.000
you had a fundraising job at DOVA. Did it involve any you know,

669
00:42:45.239 --> 00:42:49.199
like sports trips and things like that
where you would take donors or anything

670
00:42:49.239 --> 00:42:52.159
like that. You do much of
that? Well, personally, no,

671
00:42:52.400 --> 00:42:54.000
because I wasn't really working for athletics, right, I know you were working

672
00:42:54.000 --> 00:42:57.920
for athletics, but so I didn't
do it that way. But there there

673
00:42:57.960 --> 00:43:00.960
were situations though, where I would
piggyback on events. I would go in

674
00:43:01.119 --> 00:43:05.960
my role and I would go to
a Stanford game and we would put together

675
00:43:06.039 --> 00:43:09.239
I would get donors to come there
to those games because a lot of people,

676
00:43:09.599 --> 00:43:14.119
even though they weren't maybe necessarily big
athletic donors, they were donors to

677
00:43:14.199 --> 00:43:16.440
our school or to our college,
I should say, and we would try

678
00:43:16.480 --> 00:43:20.719
to get them and sometimes sports would
be the attraction. I can say that

679
00:43:20.840 --> 00:43:24.440
happened a number of times. I
went to a number of places in the

680
00:43:24.480 --> 00:43:28.840
Pac twelve, especially Okay. So
anyways, getting back to what are you

681
00:43:28.920 --> 00:43:31.159
looking forward to then? Going to
the Big Twelve, I mean Kansas basketball.

682
00:43:31.239 --> 00:43:36.039
That's going to be good. I
mean having them either come here or

683
00:43:36.079 --> 00:43:39.800
Arizona going there is going to be
terrific. And that conference has been so

684
00:43:40.000 --> 00:43:44.639
good the last five years or so, Houston emerging, you know, as

685
00:43:44.639 --> 00:43:50.119
a real national power, and the
football again bringing BYU back into the loop.

686
00:43:50.239 --> 00:43:52.519
They're so popular, especially in the
state of Arizona. It's going to

687
00:43:52.559 --> 00:43:55.199
be a huge game when they come
in every year. Yeah, yeah,

688
00:43:55.840 --> 00:43:59.760
that will be one. You know
we were talking about, you know,

689
00:44:00.000 --> 00:44:02.639
a Zona. They had scheduled this
Kansas State football game long ago as a

690
00:44:02.679 --> 00:44:06.760
non conference game. Now they're in
their league. They're still going to play

691
00:44:06.800 --> 00:44:08.440
the game. It's not a conference
game, but Kansas State's one of the

692
00:44:08.480 --> 00:44:12.159
favorites in the in the Big Twelve
this year, right, so that's going

693
00:44:12.199 --> 00:44:15.880
to be a huge game for Arizona
in terms of gauging, right, where

694
00:44:15.000 --> 00:44:17.800
are you are you going to be? You know, and they got to

695
00:44:17.800 --> 00:44:22.400
play it on the road, so
they're going to probably be underdogs, but

696
00:44:22.960 --> 00:44:24.800
you know, what they do in
that game could go a long way towards

697
00:44:25.159 --> 00:44:30.280
people feeling does Arizona have a chance
in this league this year or not?

698
00:44:30.599 --> 00:44:32.440
Yeah? And with the team feeling
too, what the players are gonna go?

699
00:44:32.480 --> 00:44:36.800
WHOA, Maybe we you know,
we were not ready for these guys,

700
00:44:36.920 --> 00:44:39.239
or or maybe we are we are
prepared. So you know, we

701
00:44:39.320 --> 00:44:42.920
look at all the message boards and
things like that this time of year,

702
00:44:42.960 --> 00:44:45.639
and there's all Facebook pages with the
big twelve, right, everyone's kind of

703
00:44:45.840 --> 00:44:51.000
welcoming Arizona and welcoming these four schools
to come over. So I think it's

704
00:44:51.039 --> 00:44:53.840
gonna be fun. I mean it
got a little stale after a while.

705
00:44:53.880 --> 00:44:57.119
I mean, how many times can
you go to Oregon State? Yeah?

706
00:44:57.840 --> 00:45:04.559
But also too, from a former
employee standpoint in development, most of our

707
00:45:04.599 --> 00:45:07.000
alumni are on the West coast.
On the West coast, that's going to

708
00:45:07.039 --> 00:45:09.440
be a tough one to lose.
Those Seattle trips and those trips to the

709
00:45:09.480 --> 00:45:14.639
Oregon and the Bay Area in LA
on top of Phoenix, which we'll still

710
00:45:14.679 --> 00:45:19.079
have. But those are big,
big donor centers, and that's what would

711
00:45:19.079 --> 00:45:22.360
bring them out right, Well that's
coming to these games. That's an interesting

712
00:45:22.400 --> 00:45:24.039
aspect of that because we talked about
that back when you know, the the

713
00:45:25.199 --> 00:45:29.440
realignment actually happened. Is that,
Okay, all of a sudden, Arizona's

714
00:45:29.480 --> 00:45:34.000
not going to LA two or three
times a year or or more. As

715
00:45:34.079 --> 00:45:36.119
you said, you know the Bay
Area, you know, see, I

716
00:45:36.199 --> 00:45:38.599
mean you would go on those trips. I went on a when I was

717
00:45:38.599 --> 00:45:44.480
working at TEP. We had a
sponsorship and I went on the team playing

718
00:45:44.519 --> 00:45:46.320
the donor plane to the Oregon State
game, you know, and there were

719
00:45:46.360 --> 00:45:51.000
two hundred you know, Arizona fans
on that and it's like, and that's

720
00:45:51.039 --> 00:45:52.800
just a little small one, but
that's about all the fans that are in

721
00:45:52.920 --> 00:45:58.559
Oregon, that are in Portland and
Corvallis and Egene and stuff. I mean,

722
00:45:58.639 --> 00:46:04.639
that's it's going to be difficult losing
that LA trip. There are probably

723
00:46:04.800 --> 00:46:08.760
I don't know twenty thousand alums in
southern California the number exactly, but it's

724
00:46:08.800 --> 00:46:13.239
one. It's a big number.
It's a big number in Seattle, the

725
00:46:13.280 --> 00:46:16.320
Bay area. Those are big yeah
alumni. Huh yeah. Well I'm looking

726
00:46:16.360 --> 00:46:21.440
forward to what I what I've been
saying is that. I feel like Arizona

727
00:46:21.519 --> 00:46:27.400
should should be at least with football
more competitive in the Big twelve than they've

728
00:46:27.440 --> 00:46:30.760
been in the Pac twelve. Now
they've had you know, a year here,

729
00:46:30.840 --> 00:46:31.440
a year there, and a year
here and a year there. I

730
00:46:31.639 --> 00:46:37.480
feel like with what they with what
given credit, what Jedfish built here and

731
00:46:37.559 --> 00:46:39.960
what Brent Brannan has come into as
the new head coach, if he can

732
00:46:40.079 --> 00:46:46.079
keep this momentum going or at least
maintain what they've done, that they might

733
00:46:46.159 --> 00:46:50.400
win a league title. Yea,
you know they can in the next Maybe

734
00:46:50.440 --> 00:46:53.119
in the next year is maybe this
year, who knows? And that you

735
00:46:53.199 --> 00:46:57.719
know, with with what's being done
with the with the playoff and the expansion,

736
00:46:59.199 --> 00:47:01.119
right, I feel I want to
put it this way. I feel

737
00:47:01.159 --> 00:47:06.239
they've got a better shot to get
in the playoff through the Big twelve than

738
00:47:06.400 --> 00:47:09.679
what they've had having to play USC, Oregon, Washington, you know every

739
00:47:09.760 --> 00:47:14.440
year in the Back twelve. That's
all coming well in a couple of years.

740
00:47:14.559 --> 00:47:16.280
So it's gonna be It's gonna be
interesting. Can you imagine we have

741
00:47:16.320 --> 00:47:20.800
a playoff game at Arizona State?
Oh God, you know it comes.

742
00:47:21.519 --> 00:47:24.679
I don't know Oklahoma's coming to tie
right coming in Auburn. I don't know,

743
00:47:24.800 --> 00:47:28.840
it's gonna be It's gonna be huge
for these college towns to get a

744
00:47:28.880 --> 00:47:31.159
playoff game. And the money,
you know that that's a whole other factor,

745
00:47:31.239 --> 00:47:35.639
but that's gonna really increase big time. I'm just trying not to get

746
00:47:36.079 --> 00:47:38.639
too far out over my skis on
this one, right because because you know,

747
00:47:38.800 --> 00:47:43.320
I mean, I you know,
I grew up here, right,

748
00:47:43.360 --> 00:47:46.280
and I've told you that we've got
all the heartbreak stories over the years.

749
00:47:46.800 --> 00:47:50.880
Uh, you know, the close
calls to getting in the Rose Bowl and

750
00:47:50.920 --> 00:47:53.079
stuff, and the Rose Bull is
kind of so far off my radar anymore.

751
00:47:53.239 --> 00:47:55.239
You know. The only way you
get into that is if you get

752
00:47:55.280 --> 00:47:59.719
into it through the playoff. But
I feel like there's a better chance of

753
00:47:59.800 --> 00:48:04.360
that than the chance that they've had
where they were sitting in the Pac twelve.

754
00:48:04.480 --> 00:48:07.159
Yeah, it's going to be interesting
because you know, at least of

755
00:48:07.239 --> 00:48:10.880
all the preseason comments that we've been
reading, you know, they're giving high

756
00:48:10.920 --> 00:48:15.119
hope to Arizona and that they could
be one of the favorites, and you're

757
00:48:15.159 --> 00:48:17.280
bringing you know, you're bringing along
Utah, right, and you know,

758
00:48:19.039 --> 00:48:22.760
who knows what Colorado is going to
look like certainly Utah is going to be

759
00:48:22.000 --> 00:48:29.840
good no matter what league they're playing
in Colorado, and I don't dislike Deon

760
00:48:29.960 --> 00:48:32.639
Sanders, I don't. I mean, I I've never been a big fan

761
00:48:32.760 --> 00:48:36.719
of all his flash and dash kind
of stuff from the time he was a

762
00:48:36.760 --> 00:48:38.719
player and even when he was at
Florida State. I've never been a big

763
00:48:38.800 --> 00:48:42.880
fan of that with pretty much anybody
out of But I don't mind him.

764
00:48:42.880 --> 00:48:46.559
I don't dislike him. But why
I do. What I don't like is

765
00:48:46.599 --> 00:48:52.159
how he's handled the stuff at Colorado
and they are they're sliding into that neighborhood

766
00:48:52.719 --> 00:48:57.079
where Arizona State sits at the you
know, the head of the street.

767
00:48:57.840 --> 00:49:01.360
I'm Colorado's becoming a big villain to
me because of all this. And you

768
00:49:01.400 --> 00:49:05.920
know, you read about how the
players, you know, the players talked

769
00:49:05.920 --> 00:49:07.400
about how they were treated. You
know, when he came in, and

770
00:49:07.559 --> 00:49:12.039
I get what Dion did and what
he's doing. His job was to make

771
00:49:12.079 --> 00:49:19.239
Colorado football a success and make it
more exciting for for their program and stuff

772
00:49:19.239 --> 00:49:22.079
like that. And I guess he
would come and done that here. I

773
00:49:22.119 --> 00:49:23.840
would have said, well he's a
jerk, but he's our jerk, right,

774
00:49:24.760 --> 00:49:30.679
But I'm really starting to view Colorado
sort of a villain program that I

775
00:49:30.719 --> 00:49:34.960
don't root for, right, and
who knows the way they handle things with

776
00:49:35.079 --> 00:49:38.199
his kids and where there's some social
media posts about hey, if you're an

777
00:49:38.239 --> 00:49:42.960
offensive player and you want to come
contact me, won't even contact I mean,

778
00:49:43.000 --> 00:49:45.400
it was it was weirdly handled,
right, and players have come and

779
00:49:45.480 --> 00:49:47.840
gone it's ridiculous. And then his
son going on and you know, ripping

780
00:49:47.920 --> 00:49:51.639
on a on a guy who just
said I didn't get treated very well.

781
00:49:51.760 --> 00:49:54.159
Yeah, you know, just leave
it alone and instead, you know,

782
00:49:54.320 --> 00:49:58.039
now here's you know, and then
Dion comes back and says, you know,

783
00:49:58.119 --> 00:50:00.760
my son's going to be a you
know, a first strong draft pick

784
00:50:00.840 --> 00:50:02.280
quote about you, you know kind
of thing, and I'm like that kind

785
00:50:02.360 --> 00:50:06.440
of stuff. I you know,
I don't have a stomach for that.

786
00:50:06.480 --> 00:50:07.079
I know you're a young guy.
I mean, what do you what do

787
00:50:07.119 --> 00:50:09.719
you think? One? Do you
does that bother you at all? Or

788
00:50:09.719 --> 00:50:13.280
do you what do you think of
all of that? I mean, I'm

789
00:50:13.320 --> 00:50:17.480
a very old school typic even though
I'm barely turned twenty one. I'm into

790
00:50:17.519 --> 00:50:22.840
the traditional kind of EBB and flow
of college what college football used to be

791
00:50:23.079 --> 00:50:28.000
right, even even as I tried
to adjust to what it is now.

792
00:50:29.039 --> 00:50:32.280
Yeah, I don't. I don't
like that. There's some part of sports

793
00:50:32.320 --> 00:50:36.760
too, and maybe I'm old,
I'm even older. School is to be

794
00:50:37.280 --> 00:50:40.280
humble and to have some humility,
right, and Dion has never had that.

795
00:50:40.559 --> 00:50:44.679
He never said he even when he
was you know, playing baseball and

796
00:50:44.719 --> 00:50:46.840
football. So I guess you have
to take that if you're going to hire

797
00:50:46.880 --> 00:50:51.280
Deon Sanders, that's what you get, right, that exactly, And like

798
00:50:51.400 --> 00:50:55.119
I said, I'm it's none of
it is surprising to me that that that's

799
00:50:55.159 --> 00:51:00.320
how he's uh, he's running his
program and that's how he's doing things because

800
00:51:00.360 --> 00:51:02.679
you know why it's worked for him. He's built a hall of fame.

801
00:51:02.719 --> 00:51:06.960
I mean, he was a great
athlete. But in addition to all that,

802
00:51:07.679 --> 00:51:12.719
his brand quote unquote, his brand
is huge. And so that's why

803
00:51:12.760 --> 00:51:15.920
he got the job. If he
hadn't been Dion Sanders, the character,

804
00:51:16.360 --> 00:51:20.920
he doesn't get the Colorado job because
he hadn't coached long enough, right,

805
00:51:21.440 --> 00:51:24.679
And so Okay, that's what you
asked for, that's what you signed up

806
00:51:24.719 --> 00:51:28.760
for. And if you're Colorado,
like I said, he's their guy and

807
00:51:28.840 --> 00:51:31.360
he's going to be their guy.
Sitting over here in Tucson. I'm like,

808
00:51:31.840 --> 00:51:34.440
I'm not sure I like that all
that much. And you know,

809
00:51:34.480 --> 00:51:37.440
I hope we kick your ass every
time we play. You. You know,

810
00:51:37.800 --> 00:51:42.239
he's not old school by an by
any means, and it probably ruffles

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the feathers of some of the other
coaches who've been around for a long time

812
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and handle things differently, right right, I'm sure, I'm sure it does.

813
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But you know, we'll see,
you know, this year, tell

814
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us a little bit more, you
know, canny coach or can he not

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coach? You know, everybody thought, oh, he's you know, he's

816
00:51:57.119 --> 00:51:59.519
off the charge, and then he
went four and eight, right, A

817
00:51:59.559 --> 00:52:02.440
lot of just could have gone in
there and gone for it. So yeah,

818
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so I don't know, but you
know, they're they're in the league,

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so we're gonna be seeing them if
we're not getting rid of them.

820
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And in fact of all the of
all the the the cities, where the

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where the where the teams are,
Oh, we got to get out of

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here. Color you know, Denver
is the best trip. Ye we have

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00:52:20.800 --> 00:52:22.440
we have alumni in college, yeah
for sure too. So yeah, it's

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the best road, all right,
Hey, Dave, thanks a bunch,

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appreciate you being here. This is
a lot of fun. We're gonna have

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to do this again. We will
since here. I'm available, but available.

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W A nice job on the board. Thank you. Everybody had a

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great week. It was a lot
of fun. Thanks for being here.

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Steve will be back on Monday.
We'll be back with some great guests,

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so be sure to come back on
Monday. Have a great weekend, everybody