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Bill cunning in the Great America,
and we just celebrated in a sense juneteenth,

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June nineteenth, which was the date
that San Antonio slaves were advised by

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a Union officer that they were in
fact free, and between Juneteenth and the

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fourth of July. I've read many
columns that indicates the real holiday, the

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real freedom, should be June teenth, and that the fourth of July should

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be taken down as a holiday because
so many Americans were not free on the

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fourth of July, they weren't free
until June nineteenth, etc. And I

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find that reprehensible and wrong. I
don't mind having an additional holiday, many

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people want to be off work.
But nonetheless, we find ourselves now having

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to defend the United States of America
against the radical left and defend America's interest

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in slavery, which by the way, was strictly a Democratic Party function.

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The Republican Party was formed in eighteen
fifty eight by eight Braham Lincoln to stop

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slavery. As the Democrats who imported
the slaves, kept the slaves, beat

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the slaves, raped the slaves,
and then fought a war in my country,

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declared war in the United States of
America. So they could keep their

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slaves in America the Union one and
then after that for the next fifty or

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sixty years, the Democratic Party formed
the Ku Klux Klan and other apparatuses to

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enslave more blacks than to beat them. But the Republican Party fought it like

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warrior poets. So when I go
to the Catholic League website this fourth of

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July weekend, I see debunking,
debunking slavery myds this July fourth. Joining

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you and I now from New York
in the Catholic League is Michael McDonald.

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Michael McDonald, Happy fourth of July, and welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show.

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And can you tell the American people
the essence of this column penned by

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Bill Donahue With your leadership, I'm
sure about debunking slavery myths on July fourth

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and defending this country. Stay happy
forth there, Bill, Always good to

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talk with you. Yeah. So
it's very simple, as you laid out.

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The radical left, the woke progressive
crowd loves canceling the fourth of July.

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They want us to believe that like
the New York Times sixteen nineteen project

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states that America wasn't founded on July
fourth, seventeen seventy six, a great

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day, But instead it was founded
back in sixteen nineteen with the introduction of

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slavery to the territory that would eventually
become the United States. They love going

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around talking about how the Constitution stripped
black people of their personhood even and embedded

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slavery into the American institutions, and
ultimately that leads to the white supremacy that

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we see today. And all of
that is just total, absolute bs and

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garbage. It is just this continuing
attack on America. One of the things

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they like to point out, Bill
is the three fifth Compromise, which was

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actually something that was put into the
Constitution as a poison pill against slavery.

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Right, So, when the founding
fathers were sitting down in Philadelphia to write

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the Constitution, the slave States wanted
every single slave they couldn't vote, they

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should count as a whole person in
terms of the census, which would then

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give the South approximately fifty percent of
the seats in the Congress. Right,

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just just like today, it's all
just determined by population in the states that

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they wanted to count the slaves as
people in terms of the census. But

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didn't want to give them any rights
for being people. The North, on

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the other hand, said you don't
want that's now we're not going along with

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this. If you're not giving them
rights to be people, then they shouldn't

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even count in the census. So
this way, then the North, if

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that proposal had gone through, it
would have been closer to a sixty to

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forty split in favor of the North, really diminishing the political power of the

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South, which right, that's that's
a huge deal of the South wanting to

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keep pushing west and expand slavery.
Without that political power, that would become

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significantly harder, and so ultimately it
was a siding cooler heads prevailed. It

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would be a three fifth compromise,
so the North would maintain a little bit

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more of an advantage in the House. That gave them fifty three percent of

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the seats roughly, and the South
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And if you look at American history
even up until the Civil War, that

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is huge because it is that favor, that three fifth compromise, giving more

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political favor to the North ultimately is
what limits the expansion of slavery to the

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point that it's dying a slow death
by the eighteen sixties. All right,

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let's go back a little bit beyond
that. Right now, in America today,

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on this fourth of July weekend,
the UN says numerically, there's more

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slaves today than ever before in human
history. In fact, it was the

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British, the English, the Americans, Western civilization is the entity in the

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eighteen thirties, forties, fifties,
and eighteen sixties had said we got to

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stop slavery. It's got to end. So America was at the forefront of

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stopping slavery along with the Brits and
many others, while other parts of the

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world accelerated. In fact, only
about fifteen percent of the slaves that were

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sold by African leaders to the Europeans
made it to the United States of America,

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most one elsewhere. Correct, Yes, that's correct, And United States

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was very strong. It steeped in
that Anglo common law tradition of actually recognizing

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people's rights, which in a lot
of ways states back to things said by

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the popes in the sixteenth century on
limiting the practice of slavery. So the

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Catholic Church was right there really pushing
that this concept of human rights. The

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basic decency of all humans created equals
should not be subject. No one should

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be subjugated to slavery. It's a
moral wrong, and that is ultimately what's

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the tipping point. But if you
look, as you pointed out rightfully,

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slavery is still a functioning institution and
a lot of these cultures that have not

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raced Christianity Christian values that are not
steeped in the common law tradition of the

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Anglo Saxons. So yeah, this
is a big problem. Is it's not

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even unique to America. I mean, even the international slave trade wasn't started

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by a bunch of European explorers going
into Africa. You know, Vasco da

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Gama didn't go into African sale by
the way, we're doing slavery now and

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we're taking a bunch of you with
us. It was starting the African chiefs,

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warlord what have you, already had
their people as slaves and said,

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hey, European explorers, we can
sell you some slaves if you'll give us

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some money or rifles or whatever it
is, the beads, whatever the hell

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they were trading at the time,
right, So that's that's where this comes

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from. It wasn't like a bunch
of white people showed up and said,

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we're taking you to America. Now, this grew out of an institution that

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is slavery. Unfortunately, the institution
that dates back all the way to the

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beginning of human civilization. It is
just, unfortunately, been with us.

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Aristotle even was like, yeah,
you know, slavery, it's been around

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forever, so it can't be morally
bad. And that's the thing that if

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you go far back in your ancestry, you're going to find that your ancestors

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were slaves and at another point that
they owned slaves. Like it's it's just

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true, We've all done it.
There shouldn't be reparations just simply because of

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that. Everyone at one point owned
slaves and everyone another point was a slave.

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So you know, you know it's
time. At some point soon I'm

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going to get an award as a
great Irishman. And I going back into

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Irish history, the Brits imprisoned,
enslaved, and killed, I would say

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murdered millillions of Irish Catholics over the
years because they were the wrong religion.

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But also the Irish were considered to
be like rats and cockroaches, resulting in

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the Potato famine of the eighteen forties
and fifties with a specific intent by the

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Brits of killing as many Irish as
they could find wherever they could be located.

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And so I still have anngst against
London and against Britain for its treatment

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of my ancestors for hundreds of years. In fact, it it's reported that

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about one third of the Irish were
killed, i say murdered by the Brits

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over the eighteen thirties, forties,
fifties and sixties. And that was the

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nature of things at that point.
And to get on the slave ships,

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there were literally thousands of African chieftains
who sold their own people into slavery,

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and Thomas Sole points out that there
were literally thousands of black Americans who owned

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slaves in the South. There were
about forty five thousand slave owning blacks who

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owned tens of thousands of slaves in
the South. So to smear only America

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with this is ridiculous. It's all
wrong. I hate it. I wish

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all this hadn't happen, but we
didn't start it, but damn it,

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we finished it well, absolutely a
one percent right there. In a lot

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of ways, what the like sixteen
nineteen Project likes to accuse Americans are doing

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is more probably apt than Ireland in
a lot of ways. That was really

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the test run for how brutal you
can be with colonialism, and they realized

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after multiple Irish rebellions did okay,
actually we got to temper this back a

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little bit. But even though to
the point about African Americans owning slaves before

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the Civil War, it is actually, you know something that's very interesting,

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right, about ten percent of the
country owned slaves, About ten percent of

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free blacks owned slaves, so they're
kind of like right on par with everyone

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else with what they're doing. You
know. They make this big point about

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criminal justice reform coming out of the
left today that well, there's more black

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men in prison, therefore the institution
must be wrong. Well, if we're

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to apply that logic that the blacks
owned the same the same percentage of blacks

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owned slaves, then maybe we were
more equitable back then, before we even

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had this crazy notion of equity.
I'm reading a UN report today there's an

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estimated thirty million men, women and
children in the world that are enslaved,

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physically confined, restrained and forced to
work or controlled through violence or in some

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way treated as properly property. Today
there's more slaves seized from Africa over those

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four centuries. That was the slave
trade before, during, and after America

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ended it. I'm proud of my
country to stop it. In a sense,

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I'm proud of Western Europe to stop
slavery. And it did not begin.

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America as a country was not formed
until seventeen eighty seven when we had

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the constitution, and the sixteen nineteen
project ignores history that the land we call

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the United States were controlled by the
Dutch, by the French, by the

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British, by the Spaniards, by
the Portuguese, and by the Indians in

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between sixteen nineteen and seventeen seventy six, which was what about one hundred and

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fifty six years that other European nations
controlled the land we call the United States

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of America. And when America was
formed, the founding fathers, over the

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objections of the democrats in the South, wanted to put in the constitution the

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availability of freeing slaves in this country, which was a brand new idea and

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shocking to the rest of the world, and in fact, we went to

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war. Abraham Lincoln, the Republican
Party to stop the Democrats. And I'd

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point this out too, Michael McDonald
to the Catholic League in eighteen seventy six,

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when Tilden defeated Hayes on the popular
vote and there was a tie up

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in the House in the Senate,
who should be the president the Republican Party.

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Hayes struck a deal with Tilden who
said that okay, you can become

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the Republican President, Hayes from Ohio, but you have to agree to get

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all the federal troops out of the
South so the Democrats in the South could

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be came the brutalization once again of
blacks in the South, which became the

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ku Klux Plan and Jim Crow Laws, and that entire history talking about canceling

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someone for their political beliefs. The
modern Democrat Party in major cities have largely

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destroyed those cities with progressive, left
wing philosophies that have not been There's been

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no come to Jesus meeting between African
Americans and the Democrats in your city of

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New York, or in my city
of Cincinnati, or in Chicago saying look

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what the Democratic parties done to us
over the past two hundred and fifty years

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and right now the cities are destroyed
and because of the policies, and the

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black family is destroyed because of the
Democrat Party. Wonder will there be a

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come up ands for that? Oh, there needs to be one. And

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go just a little bit further back
in American history. You know, in

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eighteen sixty, the best the Democrats
could do they had one candidate. One

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candidate the essentially three they fielded that
the best he could do to condemn slavery

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is, well, it should be
a matter of popular sovereignty. We're gonna

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let the states vote on if slavery
is right or if it's wrong. So

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yeah, good good luck stopping that
if that's the best your party could do.

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And it's a shame because that continues
on to this day. You know,

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there's a lot of progressive thinkers on
the left going back into history that

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essentially have said that, well,
you know, the blacks can't really take

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care of themselves. And these are
left wing individuals saying this, right,

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such as Paul Fitzkew, America's first
sociologists, right, he, Oh,

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they can't take care of themselves,
so we have to have slavery. This

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is what essentially the left was saying
in the eighteen fifties. And if you

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look at just like today, you're
talking about the cities like look at New

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York, one of the least favorable
environments for school choice, yeah, in

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the country, and that would be
the quickest way to give every single American

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a hand up to make sure they
get into a good Catholic school, a

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good private school, a good charter
school. But here in New York they're

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putting the kaibosh on expanding the roles
for the charter schools and just forget about

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anything else involving school choice. That
would be the number one with the Democrats

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to this day continue continue to just
keep down black people, working class people,

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Hispanics. They don't care. But
can we really be surprised They've got

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a demented old fool leading their party
right now who said that, you know,

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he didn't want his kids growing up
in a racial jungle. So can

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we be really surprised? Can we
be really surprised that the best hope is

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that we get good common sense leaders
in Washington that can set the tone and

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say, listen, we got to
get back to the values that made a

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rate in the first place that that
is the only hope. And you know,

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I'm a little bit biased. I
did do four years in the Trump

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administration, so clearly, clearly I
do have a dog in the fight.

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But the Demo Credit Party continues on
that legacy. Okay, maybe they're not

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going around and saying high minded ideas
like oh, we popular sovereignty, Well,

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we'll let the states vote if they
want slaves or not. But their

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policies are just as devastating on black
families. Today, I watched Thomas saltan

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abortion. There's more abortions of black
babies in New York City than births.

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And so if you have black skin
and you live in a democratically controlled blue

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city and a blue state, the
achievement rates of African Americans educationally, family

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formation, criminal misbehavior, and other
debaucherous acts are through the roof. And

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so many black folks are saying,
we can't take the lies anymore told to

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us by the Democrats. We need
to get out and get out among the

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red cities in the red states where
we have school choice. I live a

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little Cincinnati, Ohio, and the
public school system is awful. It's terrible.

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But as far as school choice.
Fortunately, the lawmakers in Columbus,

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Ohio have said, you got school
choice. Here's an eight thousand dollars voucher.

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And thousands of black kids are leaving
the inner city, thank god their

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parents recognize the opportunities and going to
suburban schools where black kids are more than

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welcome and form family structure and behave
in a certain fashion, which of course

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has to happen. But to be
in New York City or Chicago, or

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Atlanta or DC and to be ruled
by the Democratic Party lied to on a

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repeated basis, the same philosophy that
enslaved black folks in the South is the

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same philosophy in charge today in the
major blue cities. And I look forward

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to an occasion where this so called
mainstream media will say, this is what

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you promised, this is what you
delivered, and let's cancel the Democratic Party

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because let's face it, it is
not good for the American people, whether

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in the military of the cops,
educational enrollment, family structure, whatever it

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is. Abortions has become a sacrament
to the Democrat Party. Well, Michael

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McDonald, I got to run,
but thanks for coming on to you and

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Bill Donnau at the Catholic as a
catthitolgig dot org dot com and you and

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yours dot org have a wonderful Fourth
of July weekend. And thank you very

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much. Thank you you too,
Billy, You're great American. God bless

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you. Let's continue with more if
a line ever becomes available. You know

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the routine. Bill Cunningham with you
every day. You're Home of the Reds

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playing tonight in New York on news
radio seven hundred WLW. What does summertime

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in the Ohio River Valley mean to
you? From the deck of a BB River

