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Teamhouse. Hello everyone, Welcome to another

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episode of Eyes on Weekly, reasonably
well informed discussion of geopolitical events and about

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the time it takes you to drive
to work or pt whatever else you get

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up to. In about thirty minutes. I'm Andy Milburn, former Marine Infantry

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Special Operations officer, former CEO of
the Mozart Group, longtime student of modern

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war. Not here today is Jason
Lyons, who is waiting back surgery.

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You know we should do a whole
episode D on veterans problems with bags.

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No, actually, on second thoughts, let's not do that an entire series.

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But anyway, does it delighted obviously
to have d who is my who

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is our producer and my boss d
O over to you? Thanks? Andy,

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I appreciate your boss. I don't
know about that. I don't think

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I'm anybody's boss, to be honest, I just wanted to make up what

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do you have for us today?
I mean it's the big The big news

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is the uh, you know,
retaliatory strikes on the IRGC and connected militias

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and stuff. It's been pretty busy, so yeah, one hundred percent.

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So bring to bring everyone up to
speed in case, you know, for

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some reason you got horrendously drunk around
noon yesterday and slept through the whole thing.

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Of the United States conducted reportedly eighty
five strikes on four separate targets in

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Iraq and Syria, and these figured
out here how to no, actually I

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figured this out how to share a
screen. This is this is an I

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sw map. Don't worry, guys, we're not going to get very geeky

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in academic hit. But it drives
me up the wall and we talk about

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places and we don't have a map
to point to. This is this pretty

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good map of the Iraq Syria Iraq
Jordan border. These strikes that it shows

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here actually militia strikes on US basis
as of late January, and they show

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they show strikes according to how many
occurred frequency, and you'll see Ala Sartz.

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Maybe you remember Alisade was a great
rocket magnet back in the day when

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we were there and continues continues that
tradition. Of course, that's a massive

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base. But when you have much
smaller bases there like Al Tanf and the

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little circle there marked Rookman is actually
Tower twenty two, strikes have a much

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greater effect. D I'm gonna you
can see yeh look, okay, perfect,

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all right, So the strikes went
in. There's a couple of places

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that many of your listeners will be
familiar with. All right, And don't

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beat me up if I'm not getting
in exactly right, but our cime roughly

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here. Then across the border in
Syria there's a place called Abu Kamal,

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both of which have been acting,
as you know, kind of bases or

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depots for the for the Iranian Back
to PMCs, some of you will have

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seen on Twitter very traumatic secondary explosions
here in our cime. I would offer

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this and we'll talk about it,
you know, in a moment deeper.

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It would have to be very very
stupid people who were left in those depots

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or those areas you know, the
US that they hit commander control facilities there,

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but also in the weapons storage deep
and that's where you saw the secondary

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explosions from. I would offer that
whatever was in those warehouses was probably discarded

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or deliberately left, maybe because they
didn't have time to move it, or

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because they wanted to provide just a
dramatic show to the United States and hopefully

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assuaged some of the bloodlust that is
influencing our domestic politics. Knows, but

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unlikely that. Oh yeah, so
those are two of the strikes. There

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was another one up in Dariza.
It's still in Darazar Province and the Euphrates

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River again. You know, I
may get beaten up if this is off

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target, but it's it's somewhere around
here. And then there's a place called

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Akashad in Iraq, very close to
the very close to the you know,

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the tri border region, roughly where
I'm putting my cursor here. Akashad.

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That's been a long time Iranian militia
staging point. And interestingly enough, you

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know this is the heavily Sunni area
of Iraq, right and you know,

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so the P and C very deliberately
have set up fortified areas there and that

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is that is what we we have
attacked. Heydep. But I've got to

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read out this one quote. You
know, we do ourselves no favor,

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no favors at all globally. How
do you think the world's population are going

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to react? In many many of
our audiences saying they don't give a shit.

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But you know, when we talk
about the information campaign, we've got

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this guy who run a rather up
uninspired morning moment this morning, said,

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this is Lieutenant General Douglas A.
Simms, director of the military's Joint Staff.

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All right, that's a primary position. The beauty of the American bomber

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is that we can strike anywhere in
the world at the time of our choosing.

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All right, shapes a doctor strange
for rights, you know, comments

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slight the beauty. Strangely enough,
the world's population is probably not in rapture

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about the beauty of the American bomber, and we probably need to be a

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little more cognizant about how we portray
that, you know. And and it

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goes on the usual staff guy by
a strikes, targeting, command and control

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operations, intelligence centers, weapons facilities, and bunkers, you know, the

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usual rundown think about those, right, A key thing. They didn't say

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key personnel. Right, they didn't
say, hey, we're you know,

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we're going after these guys. Yeah, it's interesting and you know because previously

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we did when we hit Solmoney and
by the way, when we hit Solmany

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back in twenty twenty, the guy
who was killed with him was a guy

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named Mahindas was kind of his warning. He was head of guitar PSBOLLA.

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All right, so you see how
all this, you know, all of

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this comes together, and you will
see in today's news a couple of very

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in Iraq, you know, some
couple of interesting points. Okay, So

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first of all, you know that
their chart. The head of their armed

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forces has come out and made a
very a very angry statement about US violation

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when he US foundation of the Iraqi
sovereignty, and so has the Prime Minister,

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saying that the casualties reported casualties from
eighty five strikes, which were a

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total of sixteen people killed in thirty
four I believe wounded. Who knows,

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you know, I think six wounded, thirty six. Yeah, In any

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case, he's saying the USO's compensation
to these people. The US is saying

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that they were PMC militia. PMC
militia are probably thinking, damn, what

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the hell are these guys doing there? Maybe they didn't get the word,

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you know, it's right, right
collection. But so the Iraqi government is

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up in arms. But let's let's
look at what's happened a little bit in

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the last few days. All right, on the twenty right, the strike

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occurred on twenty eight January. All
right. Immediately, you know, there

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were comments from the administration and we're
going to you know, find out who

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did this. We're going to strike
back. On twenty nine January, a

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guy named sorry, that's my dog, that's okay, Yeah, twenty nine

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January a guy named Brigadier General Ghani
Ishmael Ghani, who is head of Koutzvous,

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visits Baghdad. All right, all
this is you know, obviously,

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what I'm telling you is open source. I'm not going to the day after,

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right, the day after the basis
day after right, And he meets

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with the head of Katab Has Bolla
all right, who is also the chairman.

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He has an official Iraqi position as
chairman of the PMC. Okay,

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the popular Militia working two jobs.
Man, it's not easy out there with

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all right, has Buller all right, remember he still had it, Katab

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Has Buller man's three brigades in the
Iraqi army. You see how this is

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all linked, right, it gets
worse. So this guy and I'll remember,

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you know, I'll remember this moment. Muhammad Ahwi is his last name,

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and he's called al khal all right, Muhammad Ali, remember that name.

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Twenty nineteen US embassy was attacked by
Popular Mission Militia members PMF members.

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They actually overran the compound and they
left graffiti. All right, there's photographs

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of graffiti, a manga graffiti left. There was this guy's name, Al

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Cahl, all right. They were
doing it in his name. So now

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you know head of Katabas Bala,
headed PMC, official position in the Iraqi

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government, Iraqi armed Forces actually under
the m I. Now you know,

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he is meeting with Ghani and so
speculating here, all right. Ghani tells

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him, hey, not this,
shiit off, fellas you're getting you know,

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you're gonna get us in trouble to
big Satan, you know, or

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tone it down or whatever. The
next day, right thirty January, Katabisbola

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comes out and says, hey,
you know we're gonna we're not gonna hit

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us targets. Now. It's very
subtle and smooth, geopolitical like yeah,

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maneuvering. Yeah, all right,
so here's a price release. We're not

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gonna hit anything anymore, we promise. Yeah, that's that's that's exactly right.

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By the way, Jordanian F sixteen's
participated in this strike yesterday. Jordanian

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government is being noncommittal about that,
but yeah they did. You know,

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normally these strikes when the Jordanians revolved, are more than symbolic, and you

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know they they have struck before in
Syria two or three times a right,

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not I mean, these are strikes
going after Iranian backed smugglers. So you

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know, my point is that they're
on board too. But but of course

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we weren't gonna launch from Jordan,
and does make Jordan even more of a

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target than already is. That's why
you know the B once took off from

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from Lake And yes, I saw
the two B one the two B one

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b's were in on it and a
ten fighter and attack aircraft. So there

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were a couple of Jordani and F
sixteen's, But like I saw that they

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were eight tens too. Where those
where, like the US assets taken off

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from besides the bombers. Wait,
did you say that at a tens?

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That's what I saw on Twitter yesterday. Yeah, that they were a tens

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involved in it. I would be
well, that's okay, let's let's get

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that out of the listeners. Maybe
we can hear it. Update on that,

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correct US if I'm wrong. But
I did see it that a tens

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were in it. But where would
those Where would US fighters or attack aircraft

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launch from? Well? The UK? Are they all go from the UK?

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Okay? I don't know. You
know, I'm not my my sources

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here. I have to be open
source, and I don't know, but

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I was tracking ocent Intel, you
know, on on Twitter when they took

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off from lacoln Heath, but I
didn't. Yeah, but it wasn't that

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just the b ones? I think
the b ones? Yeah? Yeah,

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So anyway, it doesn't Yeah,
anyway, it doesn't matter. I'm more

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interested in what happens at the point
and not where the fuck that took off

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from and what what happened in the
point end. You know, we've got

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to say looks, looks I don't
want to say symbolic, but again,

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you know, eighty five strikes sounds
very it sounds like a really concerted effort.

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But when you look at all the
telegraphing that took place before that,

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it would be absolutely amazing if if
that delta blow to the Iranian milicious capability.

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And this is the point here,
d is you know, if we're

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not doing something that is really undermining
UH adversaries capability. Remember we talked about

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this and I said, a comprehensive
strike not in Iran, but Iraq Anceria

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taking out Okay, that that middle
to upper level tier Koon's force guys who

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are who are operating outside country.
You know that there's all kinds of reasons

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why that would be a good move. I'm surprised we didn't do that.

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I'm surprised that that we telegraphed this. Okay, the same day, all

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right, back to the timeline the
same day, you know we're talking about

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when Ghani visits. Back that same
day again, Kirby talks to the press.

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He says that, you know,
we're gonna we're going to definitely strike

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Iran. It's gonna be I forget
the term he used, but a multi

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lad something along that attack. It's
but it's not gonna be a He didn't

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say, come out and say it's
not gonna be Iron itself. Although you've,

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by the way, you owe me
twenty dollars he has. You know

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you owe me twenty dollars. Min, we'll get back to this, okay,

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Okay, put a pin in that. No, they have not.

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Yeah, anyway, the point is
the very clearly messaging by omission that they

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were not going to strike around itself. Okay. And so when you think

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about it, and when you're saying, hey, I'm going to come after

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you, I'm going to come after
you, I'm going to you know,

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really hit your eyr GC dudes,
and he keeps saying that, and there's

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only a certain number of locations,
and you know, the Orenians know that

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we know blah blah blah. So
it's very hard to avoid the perception that

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this is pantomime. I'm not saying
it was pantomime. I'm saying that that's

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sadly, the perception is right,
and that is not what I'm sure the

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administration wants the American public to think. So I think, you know,

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there's there's a little bit of strategic
communication that has to follow this, and

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you know in other areas too.
You may have seen the report today.

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Remember last time you asked me about
the uh, the attack, right,

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And the reason why I'm talking about
this is because it's not to it's not

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to get some poor bastard punished who's
now struggling with his conscience and you know,

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and omission and and and seeing a
result in the loss of US life.

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By no means am I trying to
hauln that guy in front of a

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firing squad. But it is important, obviously to you know, to close

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any any gaps, and drone and
counter drone warfare is so dynamic that you've

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constantly got to be closing these gaps
and and so that's why this comment that

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the the the attack drone came in
on the heels of the US drone.

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It deserves being dug into sensibly,
I'll tell you it doesn't make sense to

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me. And again please correct me, guys. But I all our type

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three and above drones have our US
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All right, that's identification friend or
foe. It's andy. Let me ask

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you real quick. Type three or
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like CIA. No, it's all
on size all right, fight one or

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two. I kind of think of
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tactical units. Right. This drone, by all accounts, was a longer

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range loi F minission one way drone
it you know, because it was rocket

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boosted. That's, you know,
one of the few things we know about

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it. It's likely to have been
a shah had one thirty six, but

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there are other things that could have
been too. It doesn't matter. It's

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definitely an Iranian manufacturer. And that
I say that because only the Iranians the

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only such loiter ammunitions in the hands
of militias. Whether that Huthis or whether

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that they're PMF in Iraq. The
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That gets back to my point of
intent is almost irrelevant when it comes to

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Iran in this case, because Iran
has enabled these groups to be able to

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strike the United States and so but
interestingly enough y and there's points again to

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the US administration's keenness not to escalate. There's been very little released about the

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drone. It was again one way
drone. You know, I mean when

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we when we have you know,
I've I've seen chemikaze drone wreckage from you

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know, big ones like Shahad's all
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type ones, and they leave wreckage, right, they leave traceable material in

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the United States. There's no country
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better than the United States. And
yet very little has been released about this

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drone. My speculation here is that
is it is indeed Iranian, but the

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US is being circumspect about releasing that
information because it kind of paints both countries

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into a box. Does that make
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So getting back anyway to this thing
about you know, a drone coming in

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by the Shahad coming in behind a
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know, I said most type one
of I think Type two drones now have

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some kind of IFF transponder. But
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be that this was a primitive security
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you know, the US one.
There is a task force, task

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Force ninety nine that repurposes commercial drones
for you military use. You know,

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again, this is open sources.
There's been interviews done with these guys.

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which have I f F transponders,
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these drones. My point is this, either this is an important issue.

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It's a chink in our armor and
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not going to fix it, if
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it. And I'm sure that the
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from a friendly drone, they have
to fix it. I mean, we

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lost, we lost guys and girls, you know, and and and what

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we've gotten some nerves somewhere doing this, like figuring it out, yes,

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so, and it's the other interesting
thing is and again I mean not being

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on the other side of the fence
here, so I'm not I'm not laying

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I'm not riving pleasure into pulling all
this out in the open. It is

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painful. But the other thing is
that we've got to be we've got to

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look hard at our drone defenses.
Obviously, at these bases right now.

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Typically our drone defenses consist of,
you know, a mix of stingers are

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either man packed. A stinger is
a you know, it's an eighties technology

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surface to air man packed missile made
famous by US supply of these missiles and

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the wood that he did in Afghanistan
back in the eighties. Okay, it's

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a you know, in its day, it was a very effective weapon.

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But you know, bear in mind
it's like forty something, it's forty years

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old now. When it's mounted on
a humby, several of them, mounted

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a Humby with you know, fire
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avenger system, all right, and
that is typically often what is used in

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these bases, and in combined with
something that most former most Iraqan and Afghanistan,

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that's what you're familiar with, which
is called a sea ram. No,

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I'm not going to embarrass myself to
try and remember what sea ram stands

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for. But it's a it's essentially
it's essentially a cannon. Right now,

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neither the Sea Ram, the Stinger, or the Avenger have ever shot down

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a drone in combat on operations.
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hasn't even shot down a drone in
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I'm not an expert at all,
and I'm never claimed to be, but

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that doesn't seem good. No,
it's not good. Okay. So my

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point is that you know, we
are we're still playing catch up on a

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short range of defense. And we
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We've got ew systems that are you
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to get into it, but they
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the problem is that they are easy
to adapt against. All right, right,

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a system called Coyote which uses drones
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the little unmanned systems, and that
is you know, again, I'd be

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interested to hear from the audience what
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yeah, again, short range air
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huge issue for the United States,
and we're behind, and we have been

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since twenty fifteen when the Islamic State
first started using unmanned systems, and everyone

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predicated at the time as a matter
of time before we started losing people,

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all right, And so the attack
in Jordan, of course the first the

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first time US soldiers have been killed
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fifty three. Yeah, so it
was a watershed moment, but it was

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it was predictable, and it was
long time in coming, and we've got

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to fix this, you know,
this short range ed offense problem, the

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radar that we have there typically you
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really tough with thrums, as we
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that you know, the drone came
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It was early in the morning,
so it's coming in from behind the

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sun, you know. I mean, you're talking about a unit that is

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not on a base, that is
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dudes gathered around outside the channel hall. It's just fortunate that more people were

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not killed, and certainly that's you
know that. I'm sure that that has

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changed, so visual acquisitions difficult.
They did have a radar there. It's

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an a n TPS seventy five.
It's a uh, it's a phase the

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array radar. Okay, I'm not
a techie, but a phase array means

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you know, it's it can shift
focus very quickly. It's a very flexible

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system, and it's a very capable
system. Again, no one, you

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know, no explanation out there why
it didn't pick up on this drone.

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And again maybe it did and was
a mistaken for a friendly one thing.

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Of course. You know, I've
read in the papers about you know,

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the Jordan's requested patriots, which it
has, and you know, the there's

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the insinuation there that if we had
had patriots there then it or you know,

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if this was a bit of a
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but they also cost three to four
million dollars a projectile, right,

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and you've got a drone that cost
a few thousand dollars. Not exactly,

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it cost good. It's not a
good match. Also, it kind of

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seems like this base was more of
a staging base. So it was I

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mean, I feel like the security
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Jaysuck launches out of, or CI
launches out like places like that, compared

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to like a staging base at Hell's
like support. Yeah, yeah, yeah

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exactly, And and and my it
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think about the fact that, yes, going ahead, we are probably going

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to see these patterns of small special
operations based units. You know, we

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used to call them soft forwards.
But but the vulnerability is that these small

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groups, who are light and flexible
and highly trained and well equipped, have

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to rely on a larger conventional force, all right, a larger conventional footprint

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until we can figure a way around
that. We're going to have this vulnerability,

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and we need to focus on that
because these guys are going to be

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the primary target. Why would our
enemies go over after the you know,

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the hard targets right right getting back
to you know, the signaling though,

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I mean, you know, twenty
nine January, John Kirby talks about the

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teared approach, multiple operations and types
of targets, and then and then one

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February CBS comes out and talks about
yeah, it's going to be attacked on

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the Iranian BacT militias in Syria and
Iraq. So I mean we just couldn't

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have been. I mean we did
everything but give them, you know,

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give them the coordinates. Right.
Yeah. So my question for that was,

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did we do that on purpose to
see where these i IRGC assets went

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and like track them there. We
spoke about this before we started recording.

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I feel like, was it like
on purpose or was it like just to

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like have them save face, avoid
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and so I yeah, definitely on

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purpose, I would say, rather
than you know, I think it's rather

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political reasons. I think there are
unstated red line simplicit red lines, I

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hate to use that term, but
on both sides here, on both sides

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are trying to calibrate their reactions to
deter or coerce the other side without tripping

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those red lines. All right,
So it's this kind of KABOOKI dance,

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right, But I don't think it
was for intelligence reasons. I think,

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and you know, if we want
to trace these guys and follow the ants

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back to the nest, it's best
not to hit them and have them execute

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a contingency plan. It's best just
to follow them, you know, keep

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an eye on them, established pattern
of life across the board, be more

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circumspect, and then hit them when
it's really going to hit them, and

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make it such that we are taking
a capability off the board here right the

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the it does surprise me that we
telegraphed it because because it would have been

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within the rules, within the unspoken
rules of the game. That's literally he

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suspects our landscapers have been Russian.
Yeah, but I mean it would have

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been within the unspoken rules of the
game to kill Kud's force guys in Iraq

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and Syria, as long as it
wasn't in Iran itself, right, right,

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that would have been legitimate. So
why warn them, you know.

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Indeed, on on you know,
of two or three days at the end

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of January, the Iranians very publicly
pulled out they are IRGC operatives from Syria

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and Iran, to include a prominent
guy in Syria. You know, they

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even named him, or he was
named, and the Iranians allowed him to

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be named. I mean, yeah, that's unprecedented, you know, to

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announce it that way and pull them
out, and ostensibly, you know,

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that was to avoid the Iranians strikes
the Uranians have I mean, I'm sorry,

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it's Raelies. Israelis have killed IRGC
dudes some of these two occasions in

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Syria in the last two weeks.
So, you know, essensibly it was,

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Hey, this is happening, We're
going to pull our guys back.

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But I can't help wondering if there
wasn't another audience, maybe the United States.

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Hey guys, we're all clear.
Yeah, yeah, go ahead,

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we're out. Yeah. The next
thing, you know, it's kind of

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this crazy it's this weird dance.
Yeah. Uh, that kind of makes

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no sense to a lot of people. And I understand not trying to escalate

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it to like where it's a full
fledged regional war, but you know,

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it's this weird dance that like a
layman person is just just like what why

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that doesn't even make sense to like
let them know what's going, Like,

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what's the point. It's just like
a show? Well and his the here's

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the challenge now, the I you
know, the strikes against the PMC and

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the kinetic side of this is almost
not worth watching. Right. One hopes

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I believe that there is a comprehensive
campaign being launched, and the kinetic part

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is the kind of the least effective
but most visible tip of the iceberg right

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right in that campaign involves a lot
of stuff in the cyber dimension, cyber

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domain. We saw some kind of
throw aside, throwaway comments by the Pentagon

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that they are doing cyber stuff,
and I would imagine that they're doing the

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cyber domain is hurting Iran far more
than can I hope, so, because

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that's a but, I mean,
there is that there are you know,

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they'll be going after proxy operatives,
tracking them with the view probably to taking

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them off the playing board, doubtless. Doubtless they are you know, gathering

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intel targeting data on coods, forced
guys. So there's a lot of you

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know a lot of things going on
financial. No, we're not just talking

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sanctions. They're talking about the Frasery
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forensic financial analysis of these groups to
take them out things that the US can

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do, you know very well,
and hope that all of this is indeed

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happening behind the scenes. But that
doesn't really make for a good headline,

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No, it doesn't exactly. And
there is another but there's also you know,

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there's another wild card here, need
that uh that I know everyone's worried

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about the US side and the Iranians
too, and that is that those are

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these these militia all right, primarily
we're talking about the Iranian fact or not

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we should I should stop saying that
just the uh, the Shia militia in

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in Iran, many which are Iranian
BacT But the point is Iranian fact does

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not secure loyalty in return. You
know, Dan himself, the head of

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Kuzvals, has said this, and
I don't think he's not being completely disingenuous.

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Sure, you know, these the
these guys, they don't even they're

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not even a lot of them aligned
the greatest cent religiously with the Republic of

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Iran. That's the thing too,
it's like a dangerous game they're playing,

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right because they'll send them money and
weapons, but like, yeah, and

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they're not they're not in the command
of control for the most part. So

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like these guys are basically independent operators
that can do whatever they want and inflame

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tensions in a region that's already like
on fire. Yeah, you know,

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absolutely, And so although katab has
Bulla and Iran are kind of doing a

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disinformation campaign or launching disinformation campaign or
information campaign to distance themselves from the attack.

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Are the militias in Iran are being
very bellicose. And there's one and

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I remember its name in a moment, but it's got his baller rolled up

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in its title too. But it's
a large goods force backed militia, doesn't

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have the same headlines as Katari,
is buller and has every all the capability

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to strike and hurt US forces.
So I am concerned about that. I'm

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concerned that, yes, we may
be relying on Iran to be a rash

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acta and that maybe Iran's intention,
but within Iran, but first of all,

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we can't treat Iran as being homogeneous. You know. Then maybe Somewmaranian

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official Submaranean parts of the administration are
worried about US response, some aren't.

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And one this to Escaline, that's
kind of crazy because you would think,

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like these guys at the end of
the day, their main goal is like

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regime security, right Like you would
think like I want to stay in power,

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I want to still be the you
know, whether it's the the animal,

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the thing is the I don't think
that I don't. It's a long

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jump from the from the type of
resistance we've seen in Iran to an actual

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overthrow of the regime. Sure,
and you know, honestly, the stuff

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like this going on in the United
States being drums and is tending to unite

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the Iranian population behind the the regime. You know, like I commented last

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time, but but our biggest concern, our greatest concern are you know,

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what these militia groups do next.
And you know, we we can be

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confident that the US will have a
calibrated response, but it's going to make

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things dicey for US troops seas for
some period of time. And I haven't

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even mentioned what's happening in the Red
seat. So this morning, yeah,

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I was just gonna I was gonna
mention that too. Yeah, So,

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you know, I mean, the
US Navy is there is fighting a you

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know, I not not nearly as
casualty intensive on our side, but it's

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fighting almost guat a canal type scenario. I mean, not quite a canal

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Okinawa, the scenario you know,
where the US Fleet was was during the

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first part of that campaign more under
attack from the Japanese UH than the Marines,

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who were Ashore and the and the
US Navy is certainly doing stirling work

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out there. But here's an interesting
point, all right, the to this,

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the ships like the USS Karneie have
become I'm saying household names, but

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you know, awarded combat action ribbon
blah blah blah. You know, this

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is like every sailor's dream. But
in all seriousness, the concern is this

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that previously the Hoothies have very clearly
been attacking merchant ships under the thin disguise

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that these ships were heading for Israel. In fact, they've attacked forty ships

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since seven October, and not one
of those was heading for Israel. Well

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not one was Israeli owned, So
you know it's obviously a very thin veneer

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of an excuse. But these latest
attacks, the SYNCOM hasn't come out and

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said this may may have been aimed
at US ships, the drone attacks.

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So that's a concern because you know, as much as we may try and

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de escalate, you watch the US
Navy ship be hit by you know,

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a drone, and I mean we
we definitely are on the conveyor belt then

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more, and that's you know,
that's not inconceivable. All right, ships

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you know, defenses fail, there's
the possibility of a swarm attack. But

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in any case, you know,
this morning, this is from Sencom Twitter,

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February second approximate. Blah blah blah. US Cannee and Gage shot down

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one un manned aerial Victory aerial vehicle
over the Gulf Bayden. This is the

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one that that that I think sant
Com his suspecting was aimed actually at the

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Kanne who has been a big time
name and shooting these things down. So

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uh, and and those attacks in
the Gulf in the Red seat continue and

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haven't made a couple of targets,
you know, three weeks of US and

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British attacks into into Yemen. I
mean you can see, I was just

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gonna say that, like, didn't
we hit them recently? Like yesterday we

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had a couple of such a game
of whack them all there. Yeah,

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you know what, I think that
we did it. We did it specifically

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yesterday after we hit UH targets in
Syria and Iraq. It's just like,

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hey, we could hit you anywhere
anytime, it doesn't matter. We can

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do multiple times, you know,
Richie, Okay, this is you can

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take a dog out of Ukraine,
but you contact the Ukraine. Yeah,

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absolutely. Date. So wait,
there's something else I wanted to talk about

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before before we before we got off. No, I have to save it

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for I have to Oh yeah,
yeah, here's the thing. So very

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interestingly Iran Iran seems to be if
you looked behind the scenes, Iran and

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Jordan seemed to be trying to de
escalate each other. Okay, there isn't

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a lot of chest banging. Jordan
has struck targets that are Iranian, mostly

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linked with smugglers. Iran now has
struck into into Jordan. There's no love

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lost obviously between the two countries.
But but Iran, for one, we

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see Iran is having some problems in
the West Bank by all accounts, okay,

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as far as getting just getting resistance
up and running there in the same

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way that Hamas was and Gaza,
Iran's access to the West Bank, it

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wouldn't have to rely on Jordanian territory. They would never get official Jordanian permission,

479
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but right they don't. They probably
don't want to bring attention to smuggling

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routes right and out of out of
Jordan, or ratchet up detention there because

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it's it's going to interfere with our
operations going ahead. D I think that's

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pretty much it for I got one
more question, and my dogging is I

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have one more question. Yeah.
Uh, would we or any other modern

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military be able to move assets without
the all centers finding out? Very much?

485
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I think very much unlikely. Okay, even when we move now,

486
00:41:46.880 --> 00:41:53.239
you know, we move the National
Mission Force, it's it uh, thanks,

487
00:41:53.320 --> 00:41:57.840
you know, I mean, and
I know Jack's very Yeah, you've

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got things like you've got the scent
and Jack right, I mean yes,

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but in all seriousness, so you
know, tactically, operationally, strategically,

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it's a transparent battlefield that includes all
routes to and from the fit of operation.

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Yes, we have to rely that
everything that we do, every move

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is seen. And that might have
been the part of the rationale behind us

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telegraphing this so openly, the fact
that we're not going to be able to

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disguise where they're going. Let's cut
out the ambiguity, Somner some things we're

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going after and run right, right, So what's well, Michael, what's

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00:42:36.840 --> 00:42:40.440
next? How long will these strikes
last? Oh? Hey great, yeah,

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you're already only twenty bucks. I
don't I don't want to take more

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00:42:43.840 --> 00:42:45.000
of you. Yeah, so let's
not bet on it, you know,

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I mean so, so we'll see
strikes from days to weeks, all right,

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typically and then kind of a leveling
off, ratchet down, and then

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they'll spike whenever there is another,
you know, another act of propogation,

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as I said. But but the
connecting file under the scenes, out of

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you know, the media is not
seeing a lot of This is a bunch

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of stuff happening in a campaign plan
below the level of arm conflict, right

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00:43:17.320 --> 00:43:24.000
right, include cyber includes some special
operations stuff, colvert stuff like yeah,

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a lot of the stuff that that
I mentioned. So that is that is

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what I imagine is going on.
Again, this is all speculation. All

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my sources are open source. Yeah. Yeah. Andy doesn't spill the tea

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in public, he tells me a
private No, I'm kidding, I'm kidding.

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00:43:45.559 --> 00:43:50.440
I'm kidding my security clearance ship.
Yeah, I'm totally joking. Sorry,

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we'll cut that out. It's fine, don't about it. Uh,

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all right, I'm good. You
want to yeah, yeah, I mean

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yeah, I'll do it. You
go ahead, because all right, that

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