WEBVTT 1 00:00:26.839 --> 00:00:31.320 Everybody, welcome the blood and dust. This is Julie and we got Matt. 2 00:00:31.679 --> 00:00:37.439 Hello. Hello. So it's just us two amigos today and hopefully next 3 00:00:37.520 --> 00:00:43.240 time either Justin or mich will be back on the third wheel. So who 4 00:00:43.280 --> 00:00:48.479 are we covering today? Matt? We are going to cover wild Bill Longley, 5 00:00:49.159 --> 00:00:53.159 one of the many wild Bills of the old Woosh. Yes, he's 6 00:00:53.200 --> 00:00:57.880 not the he's not the old time favorite wild Bill who is shot and killed 7 00:00:57.920 --> 00:01:04.760 in Deadwood, but he has the hated wild bill. He has bizarro wild 8 00:01:04.799 --> 00:01:10.239 Bill. Yes, correct. What are your thoughts? Without revealing too much 9 00:01:10.280 --> 00:01:15.640 of Bill Longley that you want to share with the listeners, I will deal 10 00:01:15.719 --> 00:01:22.480 with a quote from his sergeant when he was in the Calvary. He's a 11 00:01:22.519 --> 00:01:26.159 bragger, a liar, generally not a good person, but he got along 12 00:01:26.200 --> 00:01:32.519 well with others due to his good time drinking nature, which I guess that 13 00:01:32.680 --> 00:01:37.079 seems to be his only redeeming quality, as he wasn't an angry drunk. 14 00:01:38.239 --> 00:01:41.400 He had that going for him. All right. Well, I guess that 15 00:01:41.599 --> 00:01:46.280 sums it up for both parties without revealing way too much to tell him. 16 00:01:47.560 --> 00:01:52.439 Should we get started? Let's get started a right, all right? William 17 00:01:52.439 --> 00:01:57.120 P. Longley P is for Preston. He's born on October sixth, eighteen 18 00:01:57.280 --> 00:02:05.599 fifty one. He's the son of Campbell Longley, who actually has a somewhat 19 00:02:05.640 --> 00:02:12.120 interesting life himself. He comes to Texas from Tennessee in eighteen thirty six with 20 00:02:12.199 --> 00:02:19.840 four other men to San Jacinto, and they happen to arrive just as General 21 00:02:19.919 --> 00:02:23.520 Houston is lying against a tree wounded. And the very next day they're present 22 00:02:23.759 --> 00:02:30.400 to capture Santa Anna. When they are sent to Goliad to help burial parties, 23 00:02:30.039 --> 00:02:36.680 Campbell is given They're all given land grants. But Campbell begins to strip 24 00:02:37.000 --> 00:02:44.080 and he gets shipwrecked on a place called Matagorda Island, and he's rescued. 25 00:02:44.479 --> 00:02:47.680 He says, screw it, sells his land grant. He gets some new 26 00:02:47.719 --> 00:02:53.879 threads and stays in Texas. You know, after the shipwreck. I'd probably 27 00:02:53.879 --> 00:02:58.360 take that as a sign too, Yes, I'm just going to I'm not 28 00:02:58.400 --> 00:03:01.080 getting on a boat man, I'm just going to stay here. That was 29 00:03:01.120 --> 00:03:06.840 probably a good decision. But he has he has quite a bit of kids, 30 00:03:06.879 --> 00:03:13.159 and oddly they, you know, defying everything from the old West times. 31 00:03:13.199 --> 00:03:16.639 They all lived fairly at least to their forties and fifties. Yes, 32 00:03:16.680 --> 00:03:21.080 I believe he had one son. He died in the Civil War though craft 33 00:03:21.840 --> 00:03:28.280 yep, Alexander. He was in Company G of the text to tenth Texas 34 00:03:28.319 --> 00:03:34.080 Infantry. He's wounded in the hip and shoulder. I couldn't find which battle, 35 00:03:34.199 --> 00:03:38.199 but I'm guessing it was chatten Uga or Lookout Mountain. He died at 36 00:03:38.240 --> 00:03:44.159 a hospital in chatten Uga, and he was taken as a prisoner of war. 37 00:03:44.560 --> 00:03:46.919 Yeah, I don't know if they might he would have been a prisoner, 38 00:03:46.960 --> 00:03:52.039 But when you're on death store, I don't know if you're actually considered 39 00:03:52.080 --> 00:03:55.479 that. If they weren't moving them anywhere, that's true, there's no point. 40 00:03:57.080 --> 00:04:02.199 So his mom's name Sarah, and in eighteen fifty three his father buys 41 00:04:02.240 --> 00:04:10.400 a farm. So they moved from Austin County to Lee County and they're right 42 00:04:10.439 --> 00:04:18.439 on a main road from Nagadocious. I love saying that nagadocious mouthful. Okay, 43 00:04:18.480 --> 00:04:24.120 this is the now we're looking at. He's getting a little older. 44 00:04:24.160 --> 00:04:30.879 It's after the Civil War. He's attending Evergreen School at this time. He 45 00:04:30.000 --> 00:04:34.480 just seems to be a regular kid. He's described by others good natured, 46 00:04:34.519 --> 00:04:39.000 well liked, and one of the largest boys in the school. I guess 47 00:04:39.000 --> 00:04:43.000 that was a thing back then. So he was he was probably five four 48 00:04:43.040 --> 00:04:46.600 then. I was going to say, at that time in America, weren't 49 00:04:46.639 --> 00:04:51.399 people more smaller in height, smaller in height, and smaller in waste? 50 00:04:53.040 --> 00:04:56.040 Oh yeah, because they didn't have to process food. Thanks to America, 51 00:04:58.360 --> 00:05:04.279 I would probably look like a these giant even with my job. When I 52 00:05:04.360 --> 00:05:10.680 was I was essentially doing CrossFit and I'm still heavy. Yeah you were. 53 00:05:10.920 --> 00:05:15.680 You were doing a lot of work. Oh I'm heavy. I'm not saying 54 00:05:15.680 --> 00:05:17.319 you're heavy. I was saying, with all the work that you were doing, 55 00:05:17.720 --> 00:05:23.199 you know that is CrossFit. As I was missing was a tire to 56 00:05:23.279 --> 00:05:30.079 flip? Could he could have just slipped a couple of logs around? Yeah? 57 00:05:30.199 --> 00:05:35.319 OK, for someone that's about to become a really bad person, even 58 00:05:35.360 --> 00:05:42.360 by reconstruction standards, it seems weird that he had like a pretty seems to 59 00:05:42.399 --> 00:05:47.279 have had a pretty normal upbringing, and his parents were God fearing people, 60 00:05:47.480 --> 00:05:53.600 and they weren't robbing banks or anything, and he wasn't. There was nothing 61 00:05:53.680 --> 00:05:58.040 saying he was abused as a child. Yeah, I heard that he basically 62 00:05:58.240 --> 00:06:01.399 had a good upbringing, you know, learning how to shoot the a normal 63 00:06:01.480 --> 00:06:08.839 kid, and he had really good education. Yeah. He was also described 64 00:06:08.920 --> 00:06:14.319 when he was nearing adulthood as six feet tall with a sin bill jet black 65 00:06:14.360 --> 00:06:18.519 hair. And he was just reaching adulthood when the war ended in sixty five, 66 00:06:19.560 --> 00:06:23.920 so six ft tall compared to that, and he was a pretty pretty 67 00:06:23.959 --> 00:06:29.800 big guy, way beyond the average, right, Okay. During this time, 68 00:06:30.160 --> 00:06:34.959 this is eighteen sixty six to eighteen seventy seven, it's called the Reconstruction 69 00:06:35.120 --> 00:06:40.560 Era, and this is basically the time right after the Civil War where the 70 00:06:40.680 --> 00:06:46.600 US is struggling with the challenges of bringing the Southern States back into the Union 71 00:06:46.800 --> 00:06:53.639 and an attempt to redress the inequities of slavery. At this time point, 72 00:06:53.720 --> 00:06:59.759 you're thinking everything is maybe going to go well. But I can't imagine being 73 00:06:59.759 --> 00:07:03.800 on during that time frame when you're trying to get the whole nation together and 74 00:07:03.920 --> 00:07:10.360 make everything normal extremely hard. Plus for the South, there was so much 75 00:07:10.360 --> 00:07:14.000 resignment for the North winning. I mean, at this time, wouldn't the 76 00:07:14.120 --> 00:07:18.360 Union be down in the South too, which would cause more tempers to flare. 77 00:07:18.759 --> 00:07:24.959 Yep, Texas is under control of the Union Army and both weight and 78 00:07:25.160 --> 00:07:30.480 black soldiers. So they took that as even a bigger slate. Oh yeah, 79 00:07:30.600 --> 00:07:33.800 I can imagine. Man, I don't envy that time frame, huh. 80 00:07:34.519 --> 00:07:39.319 As much as I like to pretend that I could really haul out on 81 00:07:39.360 --> 00:07:45.360 a wagon to the Oregon Trail and you know I'll live that, I probably 82 00:07:45.360 --> 00:07:48.839 would get bitten on the butt or something that a snake and die. I 83 00:07:48.959 --> 00:07:55.240 said on the snake while I was pooping. Man, there's something yeah, 84 00:07:55.279 --> 00:08:01.879 stub your toe and die. One interesting thing I found was a Longley's last 85 00:08:01.959 --> 00:08:07.639 name is said it has a long Anglo Saxon history, literally meaning longwood. 86 00:08:09.720 --> 00:08:15.879 That is interesting. So around this time when he the Union and everything was 87 00:08:15.920 --> 00:08:20.000 trying to I guess reign in the South, isn't this time when he dropped 88 00:08:20.000 --> 00:08:26.360 out of school and began his partying, knotty career at being a complete jerk 89 00:08:28.199 --> 00:08:33.759 yep. In eighteen sixty eight three former slaves Green Evans, Prayer Evans, 90 00:08:33.919 --> 00:08:39.960 and the other guy least guys they just haven't need. His last name is 91 00:08:41.000 --> 00:08:46.120 unknown. I've read. For the most part the accounts I've read is Longley 92 00:08:46.120 --> 00:08:52.240 and his friends wanted their horses, and because at that time horses were a 93 00:08:52.360 --> 00:08:56.000 really great commodity, and they were expensive too. Yeah, and they weren't 94 00:08:56.519 --> 00:09:01.840 I think they thought they could bully these guys guys because they weren't stealing white 95 00:09:01.840 --> 00:09:05.960 people's horses. They just particularly went after these three guys. Yeah. Well, 96 00:09:07.039 --> 00:09:11.480 plus, as you'll come to find out, Bill did not like freed 97 00:09:11.960 --> 00:09:18.519 slaves. He thought very little to nothing of them. Yep, he is, 98 00:09:18.240 --> 00:09:22.240 we said already, he's a terrible person. I think to add a 99 00:09:22.519 --> 00:09:28.240 more insight to Bill's mind, he would call them. He thought it was 100 00:09:28.360 --> 00:09:35.120 his position to and a quote, get any sassy freed slaves in their place 101 00:09:37.080 --> 00:09:41.200 is a nice term of what he Yeah, that's nice way. If you 102 00:09:41.240 --> 00:09:45.120 want to read what he actually said, you can google it. But we 103 00:09:45.159 --> 00:09:50.759 don't feel comfortable saying it because he was that big of a jerk. So 104 00:09:50.200 --> 00:09:56.720 Bill and his friends forced the three men into a dry river bed and green 105 00:09:56.879 --> 00:10:01.600 panics, and he tries to you know right away, but he's shot down. 106 00:10:01.639 --> 00:10:05.799 Bill says it was everyone, but he also brags that he was the 107 00:10:05.799 --> 00:10:09.840 one that did it at different times, so depending on who he's talking to 108 00:10:11.840 --> 00:10:16.759 is which way the story goes. But it was more than one shot, 109 00:10:16.840 --> 00:10:22.799 so he wasn't shooting to injure he was shooting the kill. It's not interesting 110 00:10:22.879 --> 00:10:28.879 too that after this whole debacle happened, you know, the former owner of 111 00:10:28.919 --> 00:10:33.720 this freedman was concerned as to what happened to this guy and came into town 112 00:10:33.360 --> 00:10:37.120 and was asking the town folk, like, Hey, what happened to this 113 00:10:37.679 --> 00:10:41.320 I guess they were friends at this time, or you know, acquaintans, 114 00:10:41.440 --> 00:10:45.799 like what happened, and nobody would say anything about I mean, they all 115 00:10:45.879 --> 00:10:50.759 knew what happened. Nobody said a word, which also speaks for the time 116 00:10:50.879 --> 00:10:56.399 and the Solf mindset of the war, right and at the very least this 117 00:10:56.480 --> 00:11:03.559 guy is he's providing his former owner some sort of work. He's probably working 118 00:11:03.759 --> 00:11:11.759 his farm. So this is this is the beginning of Bill's cowardly killings. 119 00:11:11.000 --> 00:11:15.559 Is how I want to I want to say he's a coward. I think 120 00:11:15.600 --> 00:11:18.799 that's a good word, because obviously this is we're trying to keep this a 121 00:11:18.879 --> 00:11:24.000 family show, so we can't say what we really want to say, So 122 00:11:24.039 --> 00:11:30.200 I'll just say cowardly. Ways, maybe we'll see. Obviously, Bill, 123 00:11:30.720 --> 00:11:33.480 he's just not a nice person, you know. I feel like he had 124 00:11:33.519 --> 00:11:37.879 a lot of the resentment for his brother dying in the war, and then 125 00:11:37.960 --> 00:11:41.559 you know, you are in Texas of all places, and you see the 126 00:11:41.679 --> 00:11:48.679 Union soldiers running around trying to control everything, and then you see sassy free 127 00:11:48.919 --> 00:11:52.559 slaves walking around. I'm sure his temper was through the root daily. I 128 00:11:52.559 --> 00:11:58.519 would imagine he's he just thinks he's better than the former slaves. What I 129 00:11:58.519 --> 00:12:03.840 else thought interesting too, is that the version of that story of him killing 130 00:12:03.879 --> 00:12:09.039 his first person, he stated that he was a member of the Texas State 131 00:12:09.080 --> 00:12:13.919 Police and they only existed from eighteen seventy to eighteen seventy three, so the 132 00:12:13.000 --> 00:12:18.039 timing didn't work out for that to be true. That he was just trying 133 00:12:18.039 --> 00:12:20.639 to like justify why he did what he did, which was totally live. 134 00:12:22.159 --> 00:12:26.120 I didn't even know there was a Texas State Police like that far back. 135 00:12:26.039 --> 00:12:31.759 Yeah, it's pretty interesting. You will hear about like Texas Rangers. Right. 136 00:12:31.440 --> 00:12:37.200 So at this time, Bill drifted around Texas basically gambling, living his 137 00:12:37.360 --> 00:12:43.480 life, and he became acquainted with Phil Cole, who was a noted gambler 138 00:12:43.559 --> 00:12:48.600 in eighteen sixty nine era. And during this time frame, Longley and his 139 00:12:48.679 --> 00:12:54.960 brother in law Josh or John excuse me, Wilson embarked on a crime spree 140 00:12:54.039 --> 00:13:00.039 through southern Texas. Together, they robbed settlers and in one instance killed a 141 00:13:00.080 --> 00:13:05.679 free slave named Paul Bryce and a Bastrop County, Texas of course, after 142 00:13:05.720 --> 00:13:09.399 they stole his horses. And they reportedly also killed the free slave woman in 143 00:13:09.519 --> 00:13:15.639 Evergreen. And I don't remember. I think this is the only woman he 144 00:13:15.759 --> 00:13:20.919 killed as far as I read. Yeah, so again, maybe she was 145 00:13:20.960 --> 00:13:26.519 assassin him and he did not like that. And and honestly, from my 146 00:13:26.600 --> 00:13:31.279 point of view, Sassy could just be walking down the street and yeah, 147 00:13:31.399 --> 00:13:35.120 it could be the smallest of whatever he perceived as a slight right Like, 148 00:13:35.200 --> 00:13:39.120 it doesn't mean she has to talk to him and be quote unquote sassy. 149 00:13:39.200 --> 00:13:43.360 It could just be her existing. He could have tried to make a move 150 00:13:43.399 --> 00:13:46.480 on her and she said no, and or she, like you said, 151 00:13:46.480 --> 00:13:50.320 she could have could have dared to walk down the sidewalk on the same side 152 00:13:50.320 --> 00:13:54.000 as him. Imagine if we were living in the wild West, and how 153 00:13:54.000 --> 00:13:58.039 many people would die with the tempers of this day and age, and it 154 00:13:58.080 --> 00:14:03.679 would be a blood back. So in March eighteen seventy one thousand dollars reward 155 00:14:03.759 --> 00:14:09.600 for their capture was offered by the Union militia and longly later claimed that Wilson 156 00:14:09.720 --> 00:14:15.759 was killed by outlaws in eighteen seventy and Brazos County, Texas, although conflicting 157 00:14:15.799 --> 00:14:20.519 evidence suggests he was actually killed in eighteen seventy four in Falls County, Texas. 158 00:14:20.919 --> 00:14:24.440 So that was his brother in law, which I'm sure that one overwhel 159 00:14:24.559 --> 00:14:30.960 with his sister like a fart in church. I love that same. I 160 00:14:31.039 --> 00:14:35.279 love it so much because I grew up strict Christian and if you ever dared 161 00:14:35.320 --> 00:14:39.960 do that, like you knew all eyes of the full Church with beano, 162 00:14:39.679 --> 00:14:43.840 you'd want to melt into the pew. Oh. I loved it when Jake 163 00:14:43.919 --> 00:14:48.120 said it on Yellow Stick oh Man, And now I'm gonna have to look 164 00:14:48.159 --> 00:14:54.279 it up. I've recently. I just finished the eighteen eighty three series who 165 00:14:54.279 --> 00:15:00.639 He started that I got to watch the first episode. Highly recommend. It's 166 00:15:00.759 --> 00:15:07.679 one of the more realistic looking shows whoever they had for their historian. He 167 00:15:07.840 --> 00:15:11.360 seemed to be just what he's doing. I was very impressed, So listeners, 168 00:15:11.720 --> 00:15:16.960 highly suggest eight and eighty three if you want to see a realistic version 169 00:15:16.000 --> 00:15:22.600 of the wagon Wagon Journey of the West, and then obviously Yellowstone is just 170 00:15:22.879 --> 00:15:28.440 cowboys, and it's highly interesting. Might I didn't like it at first, 171 00:15:28.440 --> 00:15:31.639 It might take it, might take it like two or three episodes to get 172 00:15:31.639 --> 00:15:35.879 into it. But after that I was sucked in. Yeah, I know. 173 00:15:35.080 --> 00:15:39.519 Well, anything with Kevin Costner, I'm just a hall in for he's 174 00:15:39.559 --> 00:15:45.159 amazing. All right, let's get back at chack. So after the reward 175 00:15:45.320 --> 00:15:48.279 was set out on his head, which in taxes, that's kind of a 176 00:15:48.320 --> 00:15:52.919 big deal because I don't have the conversion calculator, but a thousand dollars in 177 00:15:52.360 --> 00:15:56.559 anybody's day and age is a lot. But I'm sure it was ten times 178 00:15:56.600 --> 00:16:00.600 as much money to people back then. But I think it comes out to 179 00:16:00.720 --> 00:16:04.320 twenty thousand. Yeah, that's a good chunk of money. Like, that's 180 00:16:04.559 --> 00:16:08.799 amazing for that time frame. So he got scared and he decided to make 181 00:16:08.879 --> 00:16:14.519 a smart decision on his behalf in left Texas and he moved north to avoid 182 00:16:14.519 --> 00:16:18.200 the authorities. And by May eighteen seventy he had joined a gold hunting party 183 00:16:18.440 --> 00:16:22.919 in Cheyenne, Wyoming. And so this gold mining party traveled to the Black 184 00:16:23.000 --> 00:16:27.240 Hills of South Dakota. So this would have been Deadwood era, which is 185 00:16:27.720 --> 00:16:33.559 ripe or actually this was before Deadwood happened, correct, but still illegal to 186 00:16:34.200 --> 00:16:40.519 crect mine. You're on what a treaty with the Sioux it prohibited mining, 187 00:16:41.120 --> 00:16:44.960 So anything that you tried doing and there was illegal. Like Matt said, 188 00:16:45.039 --> 00:16:48.320 I think they would have known that before they left. They don't care. 189 00:16:48.480 --> 00:16:52.960 They just want to get rich. So this goldprinting Marty I heard was about 190 00:16:52.960 --> 00:16:59.320 one hundred and thirty eight men and they were making their way through and since 191 00:16:59.480 --> 00:17:04.200 the legal it was being you know, viewed or watched by the Union soldiers 192 00:17:04.799 --> 00:17:10.920 and it was intercepted. So it was disbanded and his little get rich, 193 00:17:11.519 --> 00:17:17.319 you know, or die trying party disbanded. So on June twenty second, 194 00:17:17.440 --> 00:17:21.759 eighteen seventy, Bill enlisted for a five year commitment in the army, joining 195 00:17:21.799 --> 00:17:26.960 Company B of the US second Cavalry Regiment. His Union was stationed at Camp 196 00:17:26.240 --> 00:17:32.640 STANDBA. Did they say it right? Okay? And surprisingly he only deserted 197 00:17:32.759 --> 00:17:37.319 two weeks later as he was unable to adapt to the strict lifestyle, so 198 00:17:37.599 --> 00:17:40.920 he didn't make it very far. He was captured and court martialed and he 199 00:17:41.000 --> 00:17:44.920 was sentenced to two years hard labels, strapped to a literal ball and chain 200 00:17:45.400 --> 00:17:49.759 and imprisoned. Huh he got married. Oh, he got married. That 201 00:17:49.839 --> 00:17:52.640 took me a minute. Syre folks and slow, very funny, Matt. 202 00:17:53.599 --> 00:17:57.960 He was not interested in any women quite yet, but that's let's getting close. 203 00:17:59.079 --> 00:18:00.279 But yes, I'm a little slow. That was a good joke. 204 00:18:00.880 --> 00:18:03.599 Yeah. So what they would do is they'd strap you to a ball and 205 00:18:03.720 --> 00:18:08.680 chain and you would make small rocks out of big rocks. Essentially. He 206 00:18:08.759 --> 00:18:12.079 was held for four months and then released to the return of his unit. 207 00:18:12.839 --> 00:18:18.960 His marksmanship skills were noticed and he was assigned to the regular hunting parties, 208 00:18:18.039 --> 00:18:23.720 regularly leaving the post and surprisingly he deserted again in May eighteen seventy two. 209 00:18:25.000 --> 00:18:27.720 Perfect opportunity to get away. And honestly, if they gave me a gun 210 00:18:27.759 --> 00:18:30.759 to go hunt and they let me off my ball and chain, I'd be 211 00:18:30.880 --> 00:18:37.519 deserting too. Yeah. So after he escaped from May eighteen seventy two, 212 00:18:37.720 --> 00:18:41.839 the rest of his travels are pretty much unknown. He did a really good 213 00:18:41.920 --> 00:18:47.880 job at staying low because obviously he was a man on the run. He 214 00:18:48.039 --> 00:18:51.680 did not want to get caught again, so he was very cautious during this 215 00:18:51.839 --> 00:18:56.839 time frame. However, it is known that he returned to Texas. In 216 00:18:56.880 --> 00:19:03.960 February eighteen seventy three, he was accused of murdering another freedman in Bastrop County, 217 00:19:03.160 --> 00:19:07.279 which is the same area that he was before. Correct me if I'm 218 00:19:07.319 --> 00:19:12.799 wrong. So following that, after he was accused, he returned to live 219 00:19:12.839 --> 00:19:17.480 with his father's family in Bell County, Texas, and in the summer of 220 00:19:17.519 --> 00:19:22.680 that year, Mason County Sheriff JJ Finley or Finney, excuse me, he 221 00:19:22.839 --> 00:19:26.440 arrested Longley for a murder and took him to Austin to collect a reward. 222 00:19:26.640 --> 00:19:33.839 So when the federal government surprisingly didn't want to give him the reward, I 223 00:19:33.920 --> 00:19:41.000 love our government. The government hasn't changed at all. So after the reward 224 00:19:41.119 --> 00:19:45.400 was really not forthcoming from any state officials, Finney decided he was going to 225 00:19:45.480 --> 00:19:51.279 release Longley, possibly in exchange for a bribe from his uncle, who was 226 00:19:51.440 --> 00:19:56.599 Alexander Preston Longley of California. So I'm guessing some type of money or whatever 227 00:19:56.640 --> 00:20:00.200 they would want back then, not provisions and get it was money, No, 228 00:20:00.319 --> 00:20:03.319 it was money. Yeah, I forget what he was rich, but 229 00:20:03.519 --> 00:20:07.559 he was will yeah, exactly, especially if he's in Texas and you're in 230 00:20:07.680 --> 00:20:11.599 California, like I'm guessing there was some type of money for him to be 231 00:20:11.680 --> 00:20:17.720 noted in that distance. So on March thirty first, eighteen seventy five, 232 00:20:17.960 --> 00:20:22.160 Longley killed his childhood friend Wilson Anderson with a shotgun. And this is kind 233 00:20:22.200 --> 00:20:26.079 of complicated, so the you might want to listen in on this one. 234 00:20:27.279 --> 00:20:32.319 The murder was alleged to be incited by a. Longley's uncle, Caleb B. 235 00:20:32.480 --> 00:20:36.279 Longley, who would blame Anderson for the death of his son Kale, 236 00:20:37.000 --> 00:20:40.680 and he wanted Longley to take revenge because you know, what else are you 237 00:20:40.720 --> 00:20:42.920 going to do with your life when you're mad that your son died and your 238 00:20:44.359 --> 00:20:48.839 nephew is this hot headed, goat gun toting jerk head of the South. 239 00:20:48.680 --> 00:20:53.720 So and obviously you can't say what we want, so we're using PG terms. 240 00:20:53.960 --> 00:20:57.319 So I'm sorry if it's un little childish guess. And there was a 241 00:20:57.359 --> 00:21:00.599 couple of books through it in there too. Oh yeah, I'm sure he 242 00:21:00.759 --> 00:21:04.440 was bribed to, like this is his childhood friend, Like you really are 243 00:21:04.519 --> 00:21:08.599 going to ask him to kill his friend? But if there's money involved, 244 00:21:08.640 --> 00:21:11.519 I'm guessing he was the type of person who didn't care who it was. 245 00:21:12.240 --> 00:21:17.079 Yeah, he'll just he'll find a new friend. Great, Yeah, because 246 00:21:17.359 --> 00:21:22.039 because he's amiable. Yeah, he's a good drunk. After he killed his 247 00:21:22.119 --> 00:21:27.200 friend, Longley fled Northwood accompanied by his brother James stocked him. Longley, 248 00:21:27.240 --> 00:21:33.039 who was later tried and acquitted of Anderson's murder, and then a new reward 249 00:21:33.119 --> 00:21:37.400 was posted for Longley's captured. So, under increasing pressure from law enforcement, 250 00:21:37.960 --> 00:21:45.039 Bill decided he was gonna flee place to place and use several aliases to avoid 251 00:21:45.119 --> 00:21:48.240 arrest. He briefly found work on a cotton farm, but he was forced 252 00:21:48.240 --> 00:21:53.920 again to run in November eighteen seventy five after murdering a hunting buddy named George 253 00:21:53.920 --> 00:21:59.119 Thomas, with whom he had a fifth fight. This is a terrible person 254 00:21:59.160 --> 00:22:02.079 to be friends with. Yeah, I was just gonna say, why are 255 00:22:02.079 --> 00:22:07.440 you friends with this person? Like George? And then what was that guy's 256 00:22:07.519 --> 00:22:11.440 name? Wilson? Like he made some poor life choices. Guys, man, 257 00:22:11.759 --> 00:22:15.160 he's not even a fun drunk anymore. That kind of speaks to his 258 00:22:15.279 --> 00:22:21.240 character though, Like he doesn't like freed slaves. He kills his own. 259 00:22:22.079 --> 00:22:25.240 Like if you grow up with somebody, they're essentially family. Like you just 260 00:22:25.359 --> 00:22:29.519 killed your own best friend that you knew some diapers and then now you're hunting 261 00:22:29.559 --> 00:22:34.400 buddy who you were supposed to trust and not shooting each other. Man. 262 00:22:34.440 --> 00:22:38.039 I think he didn't live that long. He would have been a terrible curmudgion 263 00:22:38.079 --> 00:22:44.960 old man, get off my lawn, cheated, then he shoots, then 264 00:22:45.039 --> 00:22:51.480 says, get off my lawn. Man. So Longley committed another kill killing 265 00:22:51.480 --> 00:22:56.559 and you Valed County, Texas in eighteen seventy six in January. Excuse me, 266 00:22:56.519 --> 00:23:03.319 when he attempted ambush of fellow law Schroyer turned into a gunfight. Troyer 267 00:23:03.400 --> 00:23:06.880 shot Longley's horse out from underneath him, which is kind of a cruel move, 268 00:23:07.000 --> 00:23:08.960 but you know you're at a gunfight, what are you gonna do? 269 00:23:10.440 --> 00:23:14.440 And at the same time a Longley shot Troyer dead. So this is the 270 00:23:14.480 --> 00:23:19.960 only known case in his career where the victim actually fought back. They had 271 00:23:21.319 --> 00:23:27.119 one legit gunfight and the others were all just playing plane murders. Yes, 272 00:23:29.079 --> 00:23:33.519 that's pretty sad. A lot of times it's a gunfighter. He didn't seem 273 00:23:33.599 --> 00:23:37.000 to be much of a gunfighter. No, I would classify him as just 274 00:23:37.079 --> 00:23:42.880 a murderer. I wouldn't even say gunfighter in the same sentence. He was 275 00:23:42.960 --> 00:23:49.160 just psychotic, short tempered man. It's just he wasn't like Billy the Kid 276 00:23:49.160 --> 00:23:55.880 getting into multiple gun fights with people. Yeah, this guy just telling his 277 00:23:55.920 --> 00:24:00.519 story put the bed taste in my mouth. So playing again. And Bill 278 00:24:00.599 --> 00:24:04.720 went east to East Texas and became a sharecropper for a preacher. His name 279 00:24:04.799 --> 00:24:11.640 was William R. Lay, And again this did not last long. He 280 00:24:11.000 --> 00:24:15.480 became a rival with Lay's nephew for the affections of a young woman, and 281 00:24:15.880 --> 00:24:22.200 not surprisingly, Bill decided to beat up the rival and he was probably jailed 282 00:24:22.240 --> 00:24:27.079 and escaped, and then he blamed Lay for his brief imprisonment. So I 283 00:24:27.359 --> 00:24:30.319 have that going for him. He was pretty good at getting out of prison. 284 00:24:32.160 --> 00:24:34.680 Yeah, Like I kind of wish. You know, I'm a dreamer 285 00:24:34.680 --> 00:24:38.039 when it comes to history. So if I see something or if I'm educated 286 00:24:38.079 --> 00:24:41.440 on something, I'm like, you know, daydreaming. You know, could 287 00:24:41.440 --> 00:24:45.400 I survive? Like what would I do? I don't think? I mean, 288 00:24:45.440 --> 00:24:48.880 how hard is it to break out of a prison, Because I feel 289 00:24:48.920 --> 00:24:52.759 like all the people that we've discussed have broken out of a jail? Yeah, 290 00:24:52.480 --> 00:24:56.240 Like, do they not put four walls in a stealing on you and 291 00:24:56.279 --> 00:25:02.680 a lock? Like how does this work? There has to be something something 292 00:25:02.720 --> 00:25:06.279 they were missing. Did they tie a string around somebody's ankle? Let him 293 00:25:06.279 --> 00:25:11.559 sit and suppose now I'm going to leave this door unlocked, and don't you 294 00:25:11.680 --> 00:25:15.200 go anywhere, because that's wrong. I'll I'll be gone about an hour, 295 00:25:15.640 --> 00:25:19.680 so I'll expect you to be here when I get back. Yeah, that's 296 00:25:19.759 --> 00:25:23.079 kind of what I'm thinking it was. I mean, it's probably much more 297 00:25:23.720 --> 00:25:29.359 sophisticated. I'm guessing, man, like, how do these people do it? 298 00:25:29.839 --> 00:25:34.039 Oh my gosh. So after he was you know, escaped prison or 299 00:25:34.119 --> 00:25:37.000 I guess jail. I guess essentially it's the same thing back then. I 300 00:25:37.000 --> 00:25:41.599 don't know. On June thirteenth, eighteen seventy six, Bill wrote out to 301 00:25:41.680 --> 00:25:47.880 his landlord's farm and found him milking a cow, and he murdered him at 302 00:25:47.880 --> 00:25:52.440 the shotgun Like why did where were you upset with your landlord that you killed 303 00:25:52.480 --> 00:25:56.400 him? If you didn't want to pay rent or behind or what his cow? 304 00:25:57.039 --> 00:26:00.440 And I was bad, that's my milk cow. So Ley was the 305 00:26:00.519 --> 00:26:06.559 last man to have known to be killed by Longley, and this would kind 306 00:26:06.559 --> 00:26:11.160 of set up his downfall to what we will known as what gets him finally 307 00:26:11.160 --> 00:26:15.680 caught. Yeah, you can only kill so many innocent people till you was 308 00:26:15.720 --> 00:26:18.559 a preacher. So I mean you killed the preacher man. That's a big 309 00:26:18.599 --> 00:26:23.200 deal in Texas. Bill next went possibly to Grayson County, Texas, where 310 00:26:23.200 --> 00:26:27.279 his two friends, Jim and Dick Sanders, were in jail. He surprisingly 311 00:26:27.359 --> 00:26:32.720 broke the boat and the trio escaped, disarming Deputy Mett Shelton when he tried 312 00:26:32.720 --> 00:26:36.720 to arrest them. So surprisingly, he did not kill Matt Shelton, which 313 00:26:36.839 --> 00:26:41.039 good on you, Matt. He survived, thank you, and approximately one 314 00:26:41.119 --> 00:26:47.319 year later, Deputy Met Shelton confirmed the encounter. So after they escaped prison 315 00:26:47.839 --> 00:26:52.359 or jail, excuse me, they fled to Louisiana, and on June sixth, 316 00:26:52.480 --> 00:26:56.720 eighteen seventy seven, Bill was surrounded and arrested without incident at nacho. 317 00:26:59.200 --> 00:27:03.680 Oh yes, your favorite word? Can you say this again? For men? 318 00:27:04.000 --> 00:27:10.160 County Sheriff Milt Masked. Milt's kind of a cool name. Yeah, 319 00:27:10.680 --> 00:27:15.079 I haven't heard that. So Sheriff Milt mass and two deputies while he was 320 00:27:15.119 --> 00:27:18.920 residing in DeSoto Parish. Sounds like a candy board. Yeah, exactly. 321 00:27:19.119 --> 00:27:25.480 So they were in DeSoto Parish, Louisiana, under the alias Bill Jackson. 322 00:27:25.839 --> 00:27:32.599 So he was parading around Louisiana as Bill Jackson and the sheriff finally caught up 323 00:27:32.599 --> 00:27:36.599 to him. So that was good. So he returned to Texas and he 324 00:27:36.720 --> 00:27:40.000 was tried in the Lee County court system and he was sentenced to hanging for 325 00:27:40.039 --> 00:27:45.160 the murder of Wilson Anderson. His appeal was denied March eighteen seventy eight, 326 00:27:45.279 --> 00:27:51.319 and finally in October eleventh, eighteen seventy eight, Longley was executed by hanging 327 00:27:51.319 --> 00:27:55.079 in Gettings, Texas, only a few miles away from his childhood home of 328 00:27:55.079 --> 00:28:00.440 Evergreen. His grave and a state historical marker are in the Getting City Cemetery. 329 00:28:00.880 --> 00:28:06.920 And he was such a good person that his parents, although only being 330 00:28:06.960 --> 00:28:11.000 a few miles away, never came to visit him. I don't blame them, 331 00:28:11.039 --> 00:28:15.039 to be honest. I mean, you think about being a gunfighter, 332 00:28:15.119 --> 00:28:19.680 which obviously Bill was not, you know, as a mass murderer who had 333 00:28:21.079 --> 00:28:26.359 rewards that what it might trying to take that equaled about what twenty thousand dollars, 334 00:28:26.559 --> 00:28:30.519 if not more. I mean, you're bringing shame on your entire family. 335 00:28:30.240 --> 00:28:34.799 And then there's two parents and at least ten children or nine. You 336 00:28:34.880 --> 00:28:40.799 know, one son's a war hero. Your father's a war hero, right 337 00:28:41.200 --> 00:28:44.519 because his father was too old when the Civil War happened, so he did 338 00:28:44.519 --> 00:28:48.920 not serve. So he's a war hero. His son tragically dies in the 339 00:28:48.960 --> 00:28:52.480 war. And then you have this hot tempered murderer running around Texas just killing 340 00:28:52.519 --> 00:28:57.480 people for no reason. Yeah, he's a To get to the true crime 341 00:28:57.519 --> 00:29:03.200 side of it, I would say he is like an opportunist killer. Yeah, 342 00:29:03.240 --> 00:29:07.599 I would agree with that. He's more He's way more of a murderer 343 00:29:07.640 --> 00:29:14.119 than a gunfighter man. In his interviews before he died, he claimed to 344 00:29:14.119 --> 00:29:19.799 have killed around thirty two people, mostly unfortunately of African American heritage, because 345 00:29:19.920 --> 00:29:25.759 again he I'm assuming he was racist, you know, based on all of 346 00:29:25.799 --> 00:29:30.400 those stories, just a little bit really sad. So I did find something 347 00:29:30.480 --> 00:29:34.720 interesting. There was apparent death hoax. So years after Bill was hanged, 348 00:29:36.200 --> 00:29:41.079 his father Campbell or Campbell excuse me, came forward in a press release stating 349 00:29:41.079 --> 00:29:45.880 that his son did was not hung and that the death was fake, And 350 00:29:45.920 --> 00:29:52.079 after confirming the location of the grave site, they dug up his grave and 351 00:29:52.279 --> 00:29:56.720 performed a test to see if this was in fact. Longly or not, 352 00:29:56.559 --> 00:30:00.839 which is very common for people back in the day bad or good reputation. 353 00:30:02.480 --> 00:30:07.039 So they were taken to the Smithsonian Institute in Washington, DC, excuse me, 354 00:30:07.519 --> 00:30:12.920 where DNA tests were performed and they actually constructed his skull in three D 355 00:30:14.000 --> 00:30:18.279 imaging, which I think is pretty cool. Yeah. In June two thousand 356 00:30:18.319 --> 00:30:22.720 and one they reported he was, in fact Bill, So there is no 357 00:30:23.160 --> 00:30:30.160 brushy Bill like this dude got hung and I don't know why if his family 358 00:30:30.200 --> 00:30:34.599 wouldn't see him when he was hung, let alone bury him, why would 359 00:30:34.640 --> 00:30:38.559 his dad say that he wasn't killed, was the only thing. I can't 360 00:30:38.599 --> 00:30:44.640 think of His dad at this point is probably in his eighties, like dementia 361 00:30:44.720 --> 00:30:48.400 or something. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. The thing I do 362 00:30:48.559 --> 00:30:52.160 know is that when he was imprisoned, when he finally got caught, obviously 363 00:30:52.240 --> 00:30:56.079 it took some time for them to hang him. So there was a lot 364 00:30:56.119 --> 00:31:03.359 of myths and legends that Longley may up about himself, which after further research, 365 00:31:03.400 --> 00:31:07.559 did not confirm to be true. So anything he ever said about tall 366 00:31:07.599 --> 00:31:14.319 tales or like who he killed or what happened probably fake. And whenever his 367 00:31:14.920 --> 00:31:18.160 appeal was denied, he suddenly found God. Yeah, I'm not surprised, 368 00:31:18.799 --> 00:31:22.680 but I did think that this kind of ties into our first character that we 369 00:31:22.759 --> 00:31:30.319 recorded. He wanted to his lies prompted his reputation. He wanted his reputation 370 00:31:30.880 --> 00:31:37.200 to be just as bad as John Wesley Harden, who was also a killer 371 00:31:37.240 --> 00:31:42.160 around this time. But he wanted to be feared. And I guess what's 372 00:31:42.200 --> 00:31:48.759 the right word. Awe struck about people who viewed Wesley or John Wesley Harden 373 00:31:48.200 --> 00:31:52.839 as a killer and they wanted to be on the same page. And I 374 00:31:52.880 --> 00:31:57.799 think that's incredibly unfortunate. John Wesley Harden only got twenty five years for what 375 00:31:59.079 --> 00:32:04.400 Yeah, yeah, it wasn't Bill like pissed off. Yeah, so I'd 376 00:32:04.440 --> 00:32:06.640 be mad too. But on the other hand, like, you can't just 377 00:32:06.720 --> 00:32:10.440 murder people and then not expect of a punishment, lying thing you did more 378 00:32:10.480 --> 00:32:15.720 than him. Yeah, I think the one story I'm just glancing at our 379 00:32:15.799 --> 00:32:20.759 notes. He said that the most clearly false story. Bill was told of 380 00:32:20.799 --> 00:32:25.240 being captured and lynched in eighteen sixty nine alongside one of the culin Baker's outlogging. 381 00:32:25.960 --> 00:32:30.119 He survived when a lucky shot severed the rope he had been hanged from, 382 00:32:30.400 --> 00:32:35.640 and then joining the Baker's writers like was a horse magically underneath you? 383 00:32:36.440 --> 00:32:39.799 A lucky bullet, you know, killed the rope and you were off into 384 00:32:39.799 --> 00:32:45.839 the sunset to murder more people, Like how did this happen? He is 385 00:32:45.880 --> 00:32:51.400 a better storyteller than Outlaw. Yeah. So then as Baker was clearly dead 386 00:32:51.440 --> 00:32:54.839 and his band was dispersed at this time, it was obviously not true. 387 00:32:54.960 --> 00:33:01.839 So he was hoping that people would not know their history. I guess man, 388 00:33:02.000 --> 00:33:07.599 that's sad. I'm just going on these stories, just quickly looking at 389 00:33:07.599 --> 00:33:09.839 them, and it is kind of funny. Like there's one right here that 390 00:33:09.960 --> 00:33:16.880 says Longley claim he murdered a blackmolishman in an old Evergreen in eighteen sixty six 391 00:33:16.960 --> 00:33:22.880 for insulting his father, and that he shot eight black people in Lexington in 392 00:33:22.920 --> 00:33:25.960 eighteen sixty seven to avenge the loss of the course racing bed. At that 393 00:33:27.000 --> 00:33:30.440 time, Longley would have been fourteen to fifteen years old, respectively, and 394 00:33:31.039 --> 00:33:37.119 true or false, the stories are consistent with Longley's well established racist character. 395 00:33:37.200 --> 00:33:40.119 In his own words, he was taught to believe it was right to kill 396 00:33:40.720 --> 00:33:45.599 sassy African Americans. You can use your imagination for what the real word was. 397 00:33:45.680 --> 00:33:50.799 But he was so full of himself that he wanted to be like John 398 00:33:50.839 --> 00:33:53.079 Wesley Harden. He did not care who he killed. And then he made 399 00:33:53.119 --> 00:33:58.720 up elaborate stories to pretend like he was some what Clark kent of the day. 400 00:33:59.599 --> 00:34:04.359 And when his appeal was denied, all of a sudden, he didn't 401 00:34:04.359 --> 00:34:07.920 do all this stuff. And then he found God. Did he find God 402 00:34:07.960 --> 00:34:10.199 at the last minute when he was tied to the rope? Yeah, he 403 00:34:10.320 --> 00:34:15.360 was well before that. He was baptized by a French Catholic priest who also 404 00:34:15.800 --> 00:34:20.119 stantly had fought in the Civil War, and I can't remember his name, 405 00:34:20.400 --> 00:34:23.159 you know, kind of for his type of person, Like, do you 406 00:34:23.199 --> 00:34:28.679 really wonder if he actually found God or he was scared that all the bad 407 00:34:28.719 --> 00:34:31.280 things that he did were just going to send him to hell because he grew 408 00:34:31.360 --> 00:34:36.119 up in a really good household and I would say a hundred percent of the 409 00:34:36.159 --> 00:34:39.679 time, especially down in the South, you went to church every Sunday and 410 00:34:39.800 --> 00:34:44.800 it was no ma'am, yes, ma'am. You know, especially since he 411 00:34:44.960 --> 00:34:50.000 killed the preacher man there was his lot last kill. I'm sure he was 412 00:34:50.039 --> 00:34:53.679 scared, definitely, He's I don't think he thought he was going to get 413 00:34:53.679 --> 00:34:58.719 home. I think he thought I'm a wait, guy killed black people, 414 00:34:58.960 --> 00:35:05.679 so not a good character. I actually I'm sitting here and I'm scowling at 415 00:35:05.679 --> 00:35:12.079 my wall, like not somebody you want to be friends with. Obviously either 416 00:35:12.760 --> 00:35:15.599 it's hard to I think you're right, Like you said, you're scowling at 417 00:35:15.599 --> 00:35:20.440 the wall, and I have like this whole time, I noticed I have 418 00:35:20.599 --> 00:35:23.639 like a furrowed brow. Yeah, my eyebrows are up, I've wrinkles in 419 00:35:23.679 --> 00:35:29.599 my forehead, and my face looks like I smelled something disgusting. There's nothing 420 00:35:29.679 --> 00:35:35.840 good about this man. He's just rotten. There wasn't one like redeeming story. 421 00:35:36.119 --> 00:35:38.800 I found, no other than he was fun to drink with, like 422 00:35:38.920 --> 00:35:44.119 in my opinion. And I know I say this not every episode, but 423 00:35:44.199 --> 00:35:47.760 you know, like when I started to love the History of the Wild Blast, 424 00:35:47.880 --> 00:35:53.599 I was really enamored with the false Tale of Jesse James. And when 425 00:35:53.679 --> 00:35:59.000 I was educated on who he was, you know, I could still see 426 00:35:59.280 --> 00:36:04.519 from certain aspects of his viewpoints of why he did what he did during the 427 00:36:04.559 --> 00:36:09.119 time. But this guy, he's just a straight up murderer, racist murderer. 428 00:36:09.519 --> 00:36:14.360 No one ever wronged him, like the Pinker Tins did to the James 429 00:36:14.400 --> 00:36:20.280 family. No other than his brother being killed in the Civil War. There 430 00:36:20.360 --> 00:36:24.039 wasn't anything bad that happened to him. I guess I don't have much to 431 00:36:24.119 --> 00:36:28.199 say because I'll just keep going encircled. But I just think he was a 432 00:36:28.360 --> 00:36:32.960 very troubled, obviously hot headed individual. But I certainly wouldn't want to be 433 00:36:32.960 --> 00:36:39.159 fun with. I think we need a little bit more of a lighthearted we 434 00:36:39.199 --> 00:36:44.639 need like the Santa clause of the wild West next episode, because man, 435 00:36:45.159 --> 00:36:51.039 I have a really bad taste in my mouth. But the first rodeo clown, 436 00:36:52.239 --> 00:36:55.519 yeah right, However, I will learn myself out, I am after 437 00:36:55.559 --> 00:37:02.440 watching eighteen eighty three, I Minis Soto was highly involved in the we had 438 00:37:02.480 --> 00:37:07.239 Indian Wars, or they call it Dakota Wars, and I went to my 439 00:37:07.400 --> 00:37:13.239 library because I my ex husband's like great something. I've no idea how many 440 00:37:13.239 --> 00:37:17.920 greats. Grandmother she was actually scalped and left for dead in a field probably 441 00:37:17.920 --> 00:37:22.239 about an hour south of me. She's still in field to this day. 442 00:37:22.960 --> 00:37:30.280 She unfortunately died, but she had a child who would eventually start their family, 443 00:37:30.920 --> 00:37:34.920 and I just became fascinated with it again. I went to the library 444 00:37:34.920 --> 00:37:37.280 and I know joekeov one, two, three, four, five books sitting 445 00:37:37.280 --> 00:37:43.800 at the table. And the book that I have was written in eighteen ninety 446 00:37:43.880 --> 00:37:47.920 and it's three inches tall, so I'm sure I loved like a quite quite 447 00:37:47.960 --> 00:37:52.320 the nerd walking out of the library with that. And that's only one Yeah, 448 00:37:52.320 --> 00:37:55.039 it's only volume one, and I have to go back and get volume 449 00:37:55.079 --> 00:38:00.519 two, which is the height. Oh, I don't know, actually, 450 00:38:00.719 --> 00:38:04.840 um and I forgot her name. It started with an A. I want 451 00:38:04.840 --> 00:38:07.800 to say it was like Francesca from Shiska or something, but it was. 452 00:38:08.039 --> 00:38:12.960 It was a different name. But yeah, the rumor or not the rumor, 453 00:38:13.039 --> 00:38:17.440 but the family story is that she was in her cabin with her children 454 00:38:17.679 --> 00:38:24.280 and her husband and needed to go fetch supplies to a fort up the road 455 00:38:24.519 --> 00:38:30.079 or another like settlement camp, and he took most of the children with him 456 00:38:30.119 --> 00:38:35.920 and she was left with the two younger ones and they had a spot in 457 00:38:35.960 --> 00:38:38.519 the chimney where if there's ever any danger that, you know, you'd crawl 458 00:38:38.599 --> 00:38:43.119 up the chimney to hide. You know. She was out with her kids 459 00:38:43.119 --> 00:38:47.639 in the field and she her Indian friend that she made you know, good 460 00:38:47.639 --> 00:38:52.159 ties with, came up and warned her that the Dakota were coming and they 461 00:38:52.199 --> 00:38:55.000 were going to kill her, so she hid her children in the cabin. 462 00:38:55.719 --> 00:39:00.360 One the one that started my access names family, was underneath the bed and 463 00:39:01.400 --> 00:39:06.679 the other one was shoved up the chimney, and she ran outside to distract 464 00:39:06.679 --> 00:39:10.559 the Indians from going into the cabin, and she was killed. And the 465 00:39:10.719 --> 00:39:16.119 story is that the little boy remembers an Indian going into the cabin to check 466 00:39:16.119 --> 00:39:20.840 it out, which was the family friend, and he made like emotion to 467 00:39:21.000 --> 00:39:25.159 not talk, and that's what saved the meniage from dying out, which I 468 00:39:25.199 --> 00:39:29.960 think is very fascinating. Surprise, I didn't burn the kid, right, 469 00:39:30.719 --> 00:39:35.079 She unfortunately died, but they lived. And so I've been learning about all 470 00:39:35.119 --> 00:39:37.360 like the battle fields that I had no idea we're down in that area. 471 00:39:37.480 --> 00:39:40.400 So I'm going to go check it out and see if i can find anything 472 00:39:40.440 --> 00:39:47.519 that was picked I'm doubting i'll find anything, because I'm guessing a whole bunch 473 00:39:47.519 --> 00:39:51.760 of people have already picked up everything you could find from a battle. But 474 00:39:52.280 --> 00:39:57.440 who knows. But yeah, I also take pictures when it becomes manageable outside. 475 00:39:57.679 --> 00:40:00.639 But I just it's cool. I'd highly recommend eighteen eighty three. It's 476 00:40:01.639 --> 00:40:06.679 it's very very cool, and you can kind of see where we talk about, 477 00:40:06.679 --> 00:40:12.079 like Oklahoma being a really outlast state at that time, or you know, 478 00:40:12.159 --> 00:40:15.159 area, because it wasn't even a state. But you can see like 479 00:40:15.199 --> 00:40:17.760 the bandits and the thieves, you know, killing people for things, and 480 00:40:17.800 --> 00:40:22.360 you can kind of get a taste of what we talk about when it comes 481 00:40:22.360 --> 00:40:24.880 to that era. It that's where I get my rebelliousness from. I lived 482 00:40:24.880 --> 00:40:30.719 in Oklahoma for a year when I was one. That's pretty cool. I 483 00:40:30.719 --> 00:40:32.639 mean, obviously you don't remember it, but it's still cool. I think 484 00:40:32.679 --> 00:40:37.559 I've briefly passed through it, but yeah, I just it's just interesting. 485 00:40:37.639 --> 00:40:40.840 It really is. So it's highly highly recommend that show. And like Matt 486 00:40:40.880 --> 00:40:45.239 said, Yellowstone too, well, should we ramen up? Yep, thank 487 00:40:45.280 --> 00:40:49.519 you again for sticking with us. We were trying to juggle new schedules. 488 00:40:49.559 --> 00:40:52.119 Matt got a new job and the schedule changed, and then we were trying 489 00:40:52.119 --> 00:40:57.400 to juggle some health stuff again. But we're kind of getting back on track 490 00:40:57.639 --> 00:41:00.639 and one way or the other, it's gonna freaking happen, man. So 491 00:41:02.159 --> 00:41:06.639 check us out on social media. We're on Facebook and Instagram. We are 492 00:41:06.679 --> 00:41:10.719 not on Twitter. 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