Everybody, welcome the blood and dust. This is Julie and we got Matt.
Hello. Hello. So it's just us two amigos today and hopefully next
time either Justin or mich will be back on the third wheel. So who
are we covering today? Matt? We are going to cover wild Bill Longley,
one of the many wild Bills of the old Woosh. Yes, he's
not the he's not the old time favorite wild Bill who is shot and killed
in Deadwood, but he has the hated wild bill. He has bizarro wild
Bill. Yes, correct. What are your thoughts? Without revealing too much
of Bill Longley that you want to share with the listeners, I will deal
with a quote from his sergeant when he was in the Calvary. He's a
bragger, a liar, generally not a good person, but he got along
well with others due to his good time drinking nature, which I guess that
seems to be his only redeeming quality, as he wasn't an angry drunk.
He had that going for him. All right. Well, I guess that
sums it up for both parties without revealing way too much to tell him.
Should we get started? Let's get started a right, all right? William
P. Longley P is for Preston. He's born on October sixth, eighteen
fifty one. He's the son of Campbell Longley, who actually has a somewhat
interesting life himself. He comes to Texas from Tennessee in eighteen thirty six with
four other men to San Jacinto, and they happen to arrive just as General
Houston is lying against a tree wounded. And the very next day they're present
to capture Santa Anna. When they are sent to Goliad to help burial parties,
Campbell is given They're all given land grants. But Campbell begins to strip
and he gets shipwrecked on a place called Matagorda Island, and he's rescued.
He says, screw it, sells his land grant. He gets some new
threads and stays in Texas. You know, after the shipwreck. I'd probably
take that as a sign too, Yes, I'm just going to I'm not
getting on a boat man, I'm just going to stay here. That was
probably a good decision. But he has he has quite a bit of kids,
and oddly they, you know, defying everything from the old West times.
They all lived fairly at least to their forties and fifties. Yes,
I believe he had one son. He died in the Civil War though craft
yep, Alexander. He was in Company G of the text to tenth Texas
Infantry. He's wounded in the hip and shoulder. I couldn't find which battle,
but I'm guessing it was chatten Uga or Lookout Mountain. He died at
a hospital in chatten Uga, and he was taken as a prisoner of war.
Yeah, I don't know if they might he would have been a prisoner,
But when you're on death store, I don't know if you're actually considered
that. If they weren't moving them anywhere, that's true, there's no point.
So his mom's name Sarah, and in eighteen fifty three his father buys
a farm. So they moved from Austin County to Lee County and they're right
on a main road from Nagadocious. I love saying that nagadocious mouthful. Okay,
this is the now we're looking at. He's getting a little older.
It's after the Civil War. He's attending Evergreen School at this time. He
just seems to be a regular kid. He's described by others good natured,
well liked, and one of the largest boys in the school. I guess
that was a thing back then. So he was he was probably five four
then. I was going to say, at that time in America, weren't
people more smaller in height, smaller in height, and smaller in waste?
Oh yeah, because they didn't have to process food. Thanks to America,
I would probably look like a these giant even with my job. When I
was I was essentially doing CrossFit and I'm still heavy. Yeah you were.
You were doing a lot of work. Oh I'm heavy. I'm not saying
you're heavy. I was saying, with all the work that you were doing,
you know that is CrossFit. As I was missing was a tire to
flip? Could he could have just slipped a couple of logs around? Yeah?
OK, for someone that's about to become a really bad person, even
by reconstruction standards, it seems weird that he had like a pretty seems to
have had a pretty normal upbringing, and his parents were God fearing people,
and they weren't robbing banks or anything, and he wasn't. There was nothing
saying he was abused as a child. Yeah, I heard that he basically
had a good upbringing, you know, learning how to shoot the a normal
kid, and he had really good education. Yeah. He was also described
when he was nearing adulthood as six feet tall with a sin bill jet black
hair. And he was just reaching adulthood when the war ended in sixty five,
so six ft tall compared to that, and he was a pretty pretty
big guy, way beyond the average, right, Okay. During this time,
this is eighteen sixty six to eighteen seventy seven, it's called the Reconstruction
Era, and this is basically the time right after the Civil War where the
US is struggling with the challenges of bringing the Southern States back into the Union
and an attempt to redress the inequities of slavery. At this time point,
you're thinking everything is maybe going to go well. But I can't imagine being
on during that time frame when you're trying to get the whole nation together and
make everything normal extremely hard. Plus for the South, there was so much
resignment for the North winning. I mean, at this time, wouldn't the
Union be down in the South too, which would cause more tempers to flare.
Yep, Texas is under control of the Union Army and both weight and
black soldiers. So they took that as even a bigger slate. Oh yeah,
I can imagine. Man, I don't envy that time frame, huh.
As much as I like to pretend that I could really haul out on
a wagon to the Oregon Trail and you know I'll live that, I probably
would get bitten on the butt or something that a snake and die. I
said on the snake while I was pooping. Man, there's something yeah,
stub your toe and die. One interesting thing I found was a Longley's last
name is said it has a long Anglo Saxon history, literally meaning longwood.
That is interesting. So around this time when he the Union and everything was
trying to I guess reign in the South, isn't this time when he dropped
out of school and began his partying, knotty career at being a complete jerk
yep. In eighteen sixty eight three former slaves Green Evans, Prayer Evans,
and the other guy least guys they just haven't need. His last name is
unknown. I've read. For the most part the accounts I've read is Longley
and his friends wanted their horses, and because at that time horses were a
really great commodity, and they were expensive too. Yeah, and they weren't
I think they thought they could bully these guys guys because they weren't stealing white
people's horses. They just particularly went after these three guys. Yeah. Well,
plus, as you'll come to find out, Bill did not like freed
slaves. He thought very little to nothing of them. Yep, he is,
we said already, he's a terrible person. I think to add a
more insight to Bill's mind, he would call them. He thought it was
his position to and a quote, get any sassy freed slaves in their place
is a nice term of what he Yeah, that's nice way. If you
want to read what he actually said, you can google it. But we
don't feel comfortable saying it because he was that big of a jerk. So
Bill and his friends forced the three men into a dry river bed and green
panics, and he tries to you know right away, but he's shot down.
Bill says it was everyone, but he also brags that he was the
one that did it at different times, so depending on who he's talking to
is which way the story goes. But it was more than one shot,
so he wasn't shooting to injure he was shooting the kill. It's not interesting
too that after this whole debacle happened, you know, the former owner of
this freedman was concerned as to what happened to this guy and came into town
and was asking the town folk, like, Hey, what happened to this
I guess they were friends at this time, or you know, acquaintans,
like what happened, and nobody would say anything about I mean, they all
knew what happened. Nobody said a word, which also speaks for the time
and the Solf mindset of the war, right and at the very least this
guy is he's providing his former owner some sort of work. He's probably working
his farm. So this is this is the beginning of Bill's cowardly killings.
Is how I want to I want to say he's a coward. I think
that's a good word, because obviously this is we're trying to keep this a
family show, so we can't say what we really want to say, So
I'll just say cowardly. Ways, maybe we'll see. Obviously, Bill,
he's just not a nice person, you know. I feel like he had
a lot of the resentment for his brother dying in the war, and then
you know, you are in Texas of all places, and you see the
Union soldiers running around trying to control everything, and then you see sassy free
slaves walking around. I'm sure his temper was through the root daily. I
would imagine he's he just thinks he's better than the former slaves. What I
else thought interesting too, is that the version of that story of him killing
his first person, he stated that he was a member of the Texas State
Police and they only existed from eighteen seventy to eighteen seventy three, so the
timing didn't work out for that to be true. That he was just trying
to like justify why he did what he did, which was totally live.
I didn't even know there was a Texas State Police like that far back.
Yeah, it's pretty interesting. You will hear about like Texas Rangers. Right.
So at this time, Bill drifted around Texas basically gambling, living his
life, and he became acquainted with Phil Cole, who was a noted gambler
in eighteen sixty nine era. And during this time frame, Longley and his
brother in law Josh or John excuse me, Wilson embarked on a crime spree
through southern Texas. Together, they robbed settlers and in one instance killed a
free slave named Paul Bryce and a Bastrop County, Texas of course, after
they stole his horses. And they reportedly also killed the free slave woman in
Evergreen. And I don't remember. I think this is the only woman he
killed as far as I read. Yeah, so again, maybe she was
assassin him and he did not like that. And and honestly, from my
point of view, Sassy could just be walking down the street and yeah,
it could be the smallest of whatever he perceived as a slight right Like,
it doesn't mean she has to talk to him and be quote unquote sassy.
It could just be her existing. He could have tried to make a move
on her and she said no, and or she, like you said,
she could have could have dared to walk down the sidewalk on the same side
as him. Imagine if we were living in the wild West, and how
many people would die with the tempers of this day and age, and it
would be a blood back. So in March eighteen seventy one thousand dollars reward
for their capture was offered by the Union militia and longly later claimed that Wilson
was killed by outlaws in eighteen seventy and Brazos County, Texas, although conflicting
evidence suggests he was actually killed in eighteen seventy four in Falls County, Texas.
So that was his brother in law, which I'm sure that one overwhel
with his sister like a fart in church. I love that same. I
love it so much because I grew up strict Christian and if you ever dared
do that, like you knew all eyes of the full Church with beano,
you'd want to melt into the pew. Oh. I loved it when Jake
said it on Yellow Stick oh Man, And now I'm gonna have to look
it up. I've recently. I just finished the eighteen eighty three series who
He started that I got to watch the first episode. Highly recommend. It's
one of the more realistic looking shows whoever they had for their historian. He
seemed to be just what he's doing. I was very impressed, So listeners,
highly suggest eight and eighty three if you want to see a realistic version
of the wagon Wagon Journey of the West, and then obviously Yellowstone is just
cowboys, and it's highly interesting. Might I didn't like it at first,
It might take it, might take it like two or three episodes to get
into it. But after that I was sucked in. Yeah, I know.
Well, anything with Kevin Costner, I'm just a hall in for he's
amazing. All right, let's get back at chack. So after the reward
was set out on his head, which in taxes, that's kind of a
big deal because I don't have the conversion calculator, but a thousand dollars in
anybody's day and age is a lot. But I'm sure it was ten times
as much money to people back then. But I think it comes out to
twenty thousand. Yeah, that's a good chunk of money. Like, that's
amazing for that time frame. So he got scared and he decided to make
a smart decision on his behalf in left Texas and he moved north to avoid
the authorities. And by May eighteen seventy he had joined a gold hunting party
in Cheyenne, Wyoming. And so this gold mining party traveled to the Black
Hills of South Dakota. So this would have been Deadwood era, which is
ripe or actually this was before Deadwood happened, correct, but still illegal to
crect mine. You're on what a treaty with the Sioux it prohibited mining,
So anything that you tried doing and there was illegal. Like Matt said,
I think they would have known that before they left. They don't care.
They just want to get rich. So this goldprinting Marty I heard was about
one hundred and thirty eight men and they were making their way through and since
the legal it was being you know, viewed or watched by the Union soldiers
and it was intercepted. So it was disbanded and his little get rich,
you know, or die trying party disbanded. So on June twenty second,
eighteen seventy, Bill enlisted for a five year commitment in the army, joining
Company B of the US second Cavalry Regiment. His Union was stationed at Camp
STANDBA. Did they say it right? Okay? And surprisingly he only deserted
two weeks later as he was unable to adapt to the strict lifestyle, so
he didn't make it very far. He was captured and court martialed and he
was sentenced to two years hard labels, strapped to a literal ball and chain
and imprisoned. Huh he got married. Oh, he got married. That
took me a minute. Syre folks and slow, very funny, Matt.
He was not interested in any women quite yet, but that's let's getting close.
But yes, I'm a little slow. That was a good joke.
Yeah. So what they would do is they'd strap you to a ball and
chain and you would make small rocks out of big rocks. Essentially. He
was held for four months and then released to the return of his unit.
His marksmanship skills were noticed and he was assigned to the regular hunting parties,
regularly leaving the post and surprisingly he deserted again in May eighteen seventy two.
Perfect opportunity to get away. And honestly, if they gave me a gun
to go hunt and they let me off my ball and chain, I'd be
deserting too. Yeah. So after he escaped from May eighteen seventy two,
the rest of his travels are pretty much unknown. He did a really good
job at staying low because obviously he was a man on the run. He
did not want to get caught again, so he was very cautious during this
time frame. However, it is known that he returned to Texas. In
February eighteen seventy three, he was accused of murdering another freedman in Bastrop County,
which is the same area that he was before. Correct me if I'm
wrong. So following that, after he was accused, he returned to live
with his father's family in Bell County, Texas, and in the summer of
that year, Mason County Sheriff JJ Finley or Finney, excuse me, he
arrested Longley for a murder and took him to Austin to collect a reward.
So when the federal government surprisingly didn't want to give him the reward, I
love our government. The government hasn't changed at all. So after the reward
was really not forthcoming from any state officials, Finney decided he was going to
release Longley, possibly in exchange for a bribe from his uncle, who was
Alexander Preston Longley of California. So I'm guessing some type of money or whatever
they would want back then, not provisions and get it was money, No,
it was money. Yeah, I forget what he was rich, but
he was will yeah, exactly, especially if he's in Texas and you're in
California, like I'm guessing there was some type of money for him to be
noted in that distance. So on March thirty first, eighteen seventy five,
Longley killed his childhood friend Wilson Anderson with a shotgun. And this is kind
of complicated, so the you might want to listen in on this one.
The murder was alleged to be incited by a. Longley's uncle, Caleb B.
Longley, who would blame Anderson for the death of his son Kale,
and he wanted Longley to take revenge because you know, what else are you
going to do with your life when you're mad that your son died and your
nephew is this hot headed, goat gun toting jerk head of the South.
So and obviously you can't say what we want, so we're using PG terms.
So I'm sorry if it's un little childish guess. And there was a
couple of books through it in there too. Oh yeah, I'm sure he
was bribed to, like this is his childhood friend, Like you really are
going to ask him to kill his friend? But if there's money involved,
I'm guessing he was the type of person who didn't care who it was.
Yeah, he'll just he'll find a new friend. Great, Yeah, because
because he's amiable. Yeah, he's a good drunk. After he killed his
friend, Longley fled Northwood accompanied by his brother James stocked him. Longley,
who was later tried and acquitted of Anderson's murder, and then a new reward
was posted for Longley's captured. So, under increasing pressure from law enforcement,
Bill decided he was gonna flee place to place and use several aliases to avoid
arrest. He briefly found work on a cotton farm, but he was forced
again to run in November eighteen seventy five after murdering a hunting buddy named George
Thomas, with whom he had a fifth fight. This is a terrible person
to be friends with. Yeah, I was just gonna say, why are
you friends with this person? Like George? And then what was that guy's
name? Wilson? Like he made some poor life choices. Guys, man,
he's not even a fun drunk anymore. That kind of speaks to his
character though, Like he doesn't like freed slaves. He kills his own.
Like if you grow up with somebody, they're essentially family. Like you just
killed your own best friend that you knew some diapers and then now you're hunting
buddy who you were supposed to trust and not shooting each other. Man.
I think he didn't live that long. He would have been a terrible curmudgion
old man, get off my lawn, cheated, then he shoots, then
says, get off my lawn. Man. So Longley committed another kill killing
and you Valed County, Texas in eighteen seventy six in January. Excuse me,
when he attempted ambush of fellow law Schroyer turned into a gunfight. Troyer
shot Longley's horse out from underneath him, which is kind of a cruel move,
but you know you're at a gunfight, what are you gonna do?
And at the same time a Longley shot Troyer dead. So this is the
only known case in his career where the victim actually fought back. They had
one legit gunfight and the others were all just playing plane murders. Yes,
that's pretty sad. A lot of times it's a gunfighter. He didn't seem
to be much of a gunfighter. No, I would classify him as just
a murderer. I wouldn't even say gunfighter in the same sentence. He was
just psychotic, short tempered man. It's just he wasn't like Billy the Kid
getting into multiple gun fights with people. Yeah, this guy just telling his
story put the bed taste in my mouth. So playing again. And Bill
went east to East Texas and became a sharecropper for a preacher. His name
was William R. Lay, And again this did not last long. He
became a rival with Lay's nephew for the affections of a young woman, and
not surprisingly, Bill decided to beat up the rival and he was probably jailed
and escaped, and then he blamed Lay for his brief imprisonment. So I
have that going for him. He was pretty good at getting out of prison.
Yeah, Like I kind of wish. You know, I'm a dreamer
when it comes to history. So if I see something or if I'm educated
on something, I'm like, you know, daydreaming. You know, could
I survive? Like what would I do? I don't think? I mean,
how hard is it to break out of a prison, Because I feel
like all the people that we've discussed have broken out of a jail? Yeah,
Like, do they not put four walls in a stealing on you and
a lock? Like how does this work? There has to be something something
they were missing. Did they tie a string around somebody's ankle? Let him
sit and suppose now I'm going to leave this door unlocked, and don't you
go anywhere, because that's wrong. I'll I'll be gone about an hour,
so I'll expect you to be here when I get back. Yeah, that's
kind of what I'm thinking it was. I mean, it's probably much more
sophisticated. I'm guessing, man, like, how do these people do it?
Oh my gosh. So after he was you know, escaped prison or
I guess jail. I guess essentially it's the same thing back then. I
don't know. On June thirteenth, eighteen seventy six, Bill wrote out to
his landlord's farm and found him milking a cow, and he murdered him at
the shotgun Like why did where were you upset with your landlord that you killed
him? If you didn't want to pay rent or behind or what his cow?
And I was bad, that's my milk cow. So Ley was the
last man to have known to be killed by Longley, and this would kind
of set up his downfall to what we will known as what gets him finally
caught. Yeah, you can only kill so many innocent people till you was
a preacher. So I mean you killed the preacher man. That's a big
deal in Texas. Bill next went possibly to Grayson County, Texas, where
his two friends, Jim and Dick Sanders, were in jail. He surprisingly
broke the boat and the trio escaped, disarming Deputy Mett Shelton when he tried
to arrest them. So surprisingly, he did not kill Matt Shelton, which
good on you, Matt. He survived, thank you, and approximately one
year later, Deputy Met Shelton confirmed the encounter. So after they escaped prison
or jail, excuse me, they fled to Louisiana, and on June sixth,
eighteen seventy seven, Bill was surrounded and arrested without incident at nacho.
Oh yes, your favorite word? Can you say this again? For men?
County Sheriff Milt Masked. Milt's kind of a cool name. Yeah,
I haven't heard that. So Sheriff Milt mass and two deputies while he was
residing in DeSoto Parish. Sounds like a candy board. Yeah, exactly.
So they were in DeSoto Parish, Louisiana, under the alias Bill Jackson.
So he was parading around Louisiana as Bill Jackson and the sheriff finally caught up
to him. So that was good. So he returned to Texas and he
was tried in the Lee County court system and he was sentenced to hanging for
the murder of Wilson Anderson. His appeal was denied March eighteen seventy eight,
and finally in October eleventh, eighteen seventy eight, Longley was executed by hanging
in Gettings, Texas, only a few miles away from his childhood home of
Evergreen. His grave and a state historical marker are in the Getting City Cemetery.
And he was such a good person that his parents, although only being
a few miles away, never came to visit him. I don't blame them,
to be honest. I mean, you think about being a gunfighter,
which obviously Bill was not, you know, as a mass murderer who had
rewards that what it might trying to take that equaled about what twenty thousand dollars,
if not more. I mean, you're bringing shame on your entire family.
And then there's two parents and at least ten children or nine. You
know, one son's a war hero. Your father's a war hero, right
because his father was too old when the Civil War happened, so he did
not serve. So he's a war hero. His son tragically dies in the
war. And then you have this hot tempered murderer running around Texas just killing
people for no reason. Yeah, he's a To get to the true crime
side of it, I would say he is like an opportunist killer. Yeah,
I would agree with that. He's more He's way more of a murderer
than a gunfighter man. In his interviews before he died, he claimed to
have killed around thirty two people, mostly unfortunately of African American heritage, because
again he I'm assuming he was racist, you know, based on all of
those stories, just a little bit really sad. So I did find something
interesting. There was apparent death hoax. So years after Bill was hanged,
his father Campbell or Campbell excuse me, came forward in a press release stating
that his son did was not hung and that the death was fake, And
after confirming the location of the grave site, they dug up his grave and
performed a test to see if this was in fact. Longly or not,
which is very common for people back in the day bad or good reputation.
So they were taken to the Smithsonian Institute in Washington, DC, excuse me,
where DNA tests were performed and they actually constructed his skull in three D
imaging, which I think is pretty cool. Yeah. In June two thousand
and one they reported he was, in fact Bill, So there is no
brushy Bill like this dude got hung and I don't know why if his family
wouldn't see him when he was hung, let alone bury him, why would
his dad say that he wasn't killed, was the only thing. I can't
think of His dad at this point is probably in his eighties, like dementia
or something. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. The thing I do
know is that when he was imprisoned, when he finally got caught, obviously
it took some time for them to hang him. So there was a lot
of myths and legends that Longley may up about himself, which after further research,
did not confirm to be true. So anything he ever said about tall
tales or like who he killed or what happened probably fake. And whenever his
appeal was denied, he suddenly found God. Yeah, I'm not surprised,
but I did think that this kind of ties into our first character that we
recorded. He wanted to his lies prompted his reputation. He wanted his reputation
to be just as bad as John Wesley Harden, who was also a killer
around this time. But he wanted to be feared. And I guess what's
the right word. Awe struck about people who viewed Wesley or John Wesley Harden
as a killer and they wanted to be on the same page. And I
think that's incredibly unfortunate. John Wesley Harden only got twenty five years for what
Yeah, yeah, it wasn't Bill like pissed off. Yeah, so I'd
be mad too. But on the other hand, like, you can't just
murder people and then not expect of a punishment, lying thing you did more
than him. Yeah, I think the one story I'm just glancing at our
notes. He said that the most clearly false story. Bill was told of
being captured and lynched in eighteen sixty nine alongside one of the culin Baker's outlogging.
He survived when a lucky shot severed the rope he had been hanged from,
and then joining the Baker's writers like was a horse magically underneath you?
A lucky bullet, you know, killed the rope and you were off into
the sunset to murder more people, Like how did this happen? He is
a better storyteller than Outlaw. Yeah. So then as Baker was clearly dead
and his band was dispersed at this time, it was obviously not true.
So he was hoping that people would not know their history. I guess man,
that's sad. I'm just going on these stories, just quickly looking at
them, and it is kind of funny. Like there's one right here that
says Longley claim he murdered a blackmolishman in an old Evergreen in eighteen sixty six
for insulting his father, and that he shot eight black people in Lexington in
eighteen sixty seven to avenge the loss of the course racing bed. At that
time, Longley would have been fourteen to fifteen years old, respectively, and
true or false, the stories are consistent with Longley's well established racist character.
In his own words, he was taught to believe it was right to kill
sassy African Americans. You can use your imagination for what the real word was.
But he was so full of himself that he wanted to be like John
Wesley Harden. He did not care who he killed. And then he made
up elaborate stories to pretend like he was some what Clark kent of the day.
And when his appeal was denied, all of a sudden, he didn't
do all this stuff. And then he found God. Did he find God
at the last minute when he was tied to the rope? Yeah, he
was well before that. He was baptized by a French Catholic priest who also
stantly had fought in the Civil War, and I can't remember his name,
you know, kind of for his type of person, Like, do you
really wonder if he actually found God or he was scared that all the bad
things that he did were just going to send him to hell because he grew
up in a really good household and I would say a hundred percent of the
time, especially down in the South, you went to church every Sunday and
it was no ma'am, yes, ma'am. You know, especially since he
killed the preacher man there was his lot last kill. I'm sure he was
scared, definitely, He's I don't think he thought he was going to get
home. I think he thought I'm a wait, guy killed black people,
so not a good character. I actually I'm sitting here and I'm scowling at
my wall, like not somebody you want to be friends with. Obviously either
it's hard to I think you're right, Like you said, you're scowling at
the wall, and I have like this whole time, I noticed I have
like a furrowed brow. Yeah, my eyebrows are up, I've wrinkles in
my forehead, and my face looks like I smelled something disgusting. There's nothing
good about this man. He's just rotten. There wasn't one like redeeming story.
I found, no other than he was fun to drink with, like
in my opinion. And I know I say this not every episode, but
you know, like when I started to love the History of the Wild Blast,
I was really enamored with the false Tale of Jesse James. And when
I was educated on who he was, you know, I could still see
from certain aspects of his viewpoints of why he did what he did during the
time. But this guy, he's just a straight up murderer, racist murderer.
No one ever wronged him, like the Pinker Tins did to the James
family. No other than his brother being killed in the Civil War. There
wasn't anything bad that happened to him. I guess I don't have much to
say because I'll just keep going encircled. But I just think he was a
very troubled, obviously hot headed individual. But I certainly wouldn't want to be
fun with. I think we need a little bit more of a lighthearted we
need like the Santa clause of the wild West next episode, because man,
I have a really bad taste in my mouth. But the first rodeo clown,
yeah right, However, I will learn myself out, I am after
watching eighteen eighty three, I Minis Soto was highly involved in the we had
Indian Wars, or they call it Dakota Wars, and I went to my
library because I my ex husband's like great something. I've no idea how many
greats. Grandmother she was actually scalped and left for dead in a field probably
about an hour south of me. She's still in field to this day.
She unfortunately died, but she had a child who would eventually start their family,
and I just became fascinated with it again. I went to the library
and I know joekeov one, two, three, four, five books sitting
at the table. And the book that I have was written in eighteen ninety
and it's three inches tall, so I'm sure I loved like a quite quite
the nerd walking out of the library with that. And that's only one Yeah,
it's only volume one, and I have to go back and get volume
two, which is the height. Oh, I don't know, actually,
um and I forgot her name. It started with an A. I want
to say it was like Francesca from Shiska or something, but it was.
It was a different name. But yeah, the rumor or not the rumor,
but the family story is that she was in her cabin with her children
and her husband and needed to go fetch supplies to a fort up the road
or another like settlement camp, and he took most of the children with him
and she was left with the two younger ones and they had a spot in
the chimney where if there's ever any danger that, you know, you'd crawl
up the chimney to hide. You know. She was out with her kids
in the field and she her Indian friend that she made you know, good
ties with, came up and warned her that the Dakota were coming and they
were going to kill her, so she hid her children in the cabin.
One the one that started my access names family, was underneath the bed and
the other one was shoved up the chimney, and she ran outside to distract
the Indians from going into the cabin, and she was killed. And the
story is that the little boy remembers an Indian going into the cabin to check
it out, which was the family friend, and he made like emotion to
not talk, and that's what saved the meniage from dying out, which I
think is very fascinating. Surprise, I didn't burn the kid, right,
She unfortunately died, but they lived. And so I've been learning about all
like the battle fields that I had no idea we're down in that area.
So I'm going to go check it out and see if i can find anything
that was picked I'm doubting i'll find anything, because I'm guessing a whole bunch
of people have already picked up everything you could find from a battle. But
who knows. But yeah, I also take pictures when it becomes manageable outside.
But I just it's cool. I'd highly recommend eighteen eighty three. It's
it's very very cool, and you can kind of see where we talk about,
like Oklahoma being a really outlast state at that time, or you know,
area, because it wasn't even a state. But you can see like
the bandits and the thieves, you know, killing people for things, and
you can kind of get a taste of what we talk about when it comes
to that era. It that's where I get my rebelliousness from. I lived
in Oklahoma for a year when I was one. That's pretty cool. I
mean, obviously you don't remember it, but it's still cool. I think
I've briefly passed through it, but yeah, I just it's just interesting.
It really is. So it's highly highly recommend that show. And like Matt
said, Yellowstone too, well, should we ramen up? Yep, thank
you again for sticking with us. We were trying to juggle new schedules.
Matt got a new job and the schedule changed, and then we were trying
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