Hey, what's good is your boy? Yeah? D what what? I
was good? Everybody? This is Neil? What's good? This glove?
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time mine pouts. I could dude this for hous sit and talk to you
for us? Why is it so hard to keep it in? And you
just tell me what you feel? What head on? Do another head of
gone? Do when you want to notice? Another hit of m boll me
bruises. You wasn't focused, so smell for fun photos mute. I don't
know who that artist is, but whoever that is, that's amazing. That's
good work. Who did that? You know what? It's crazy? Do
you know that person? I'm minor money long is on the Cruise Show.
Let's get it real ninety two to three LA's new Over hip Hop. Shout
out the DJ fuse for that intron. Yeah that was amazing, love that.
It's a vibe. Yeah yeah, how do you feel this this weather
that we're having you like, I don't know. I saw I fall asleep
to like rain sounds and stuff, so I was like in heaven, this
world. Okay, you don't want to wake up? No, I didn't.
I was like fifty minutes. So if we crack a window, you're
liable to take a nap. Maybe I got a blanket, I just need
all Yeah, money long is here? Made for me? Is incredible?
Congratulations? Thank you? Yeah? That process writing made for me? Was
that a fun process? Is it tough for you? I know you could
write a song in seconds if you really wanted to. Yeah, it took
me like thirty minutes to write this stuff. Yes, I just go line
for line, that's it. Yeah. Yeah. Does it start with a
hum, a melody, an idea, a fat a feeling? Not gonna
just turn my brain off and just like whatever words come out, And then
I'm just like, okay, what rhymes is that? It kind of is
like a freestyle a little bit. Yeah, you know, I'm very much.
I do like there's a rule in musical theater where it has to be
perfect rhymes, So I'm always just kind of like, okay, what rhymes
with perfume? Immune room, you know, and then I'll just feel in
the words. Okay, you know what I mean? Yeah, has your
creative process changed yet? All throughout the years or is it the same.
Yes, I just have a lot more in faith that whatever's gonna come out
of my mouth is going to be something good. Because sometimes, like when
i'm writing, i'll say something, I'll be like, oh, did you
hear that? That was crazy? Like that was the bar I thought it
was. I'm like whoa. And I'll listen to a back of like that
was like a triple on, you know, And I know I'm not that
smart, like I'm pretty smart, but like no, but like sometimes it's
like I didn't mean for it to be that clever. I was just you
know, but I yes, so that's what I was gonna say. I
feel that I'm just a conduit. I'm like, I'm I'm channeling. It's
not me. I'm not like Albert Einstein or anything like that. It's just
I have a large vocabulary because I read a lot, so when I'm thinking
of words to rhyme, I have a lot of words to choose from.
But I do use apps. Sometimes. There's a really cool app called writer
that I use. There's writer and then master writer to write a song.
No, and I've tried, and it's terrible, it's terrible. Why because
it's not in your voice. It sounds like a computer trying to write a
song. I'm not worried, like AI is not taking my place anytime.
That's right, because AI comment for everybody. Yeah, it's gonna take a
while before they you know. Yeah, how do you feel about that though?
Right? Because as an artist, as a songwriter, as an artist,
as a human being, as a creative AI can can take over or
AI can become something that mirrors you and it's not you. Well, somebody
who really believes that there is a divine element and like when things are really
magical and they just like touch, you know, babies to grandmothers, every
ethnicity, people who don't speak English are vibing with your music right now.
The main for me record is like going crazy in Africa, going crazy in
Europe everywhere. Yeah, So it's just like there is a divine element there
that I really don't see AI. It's like a frequency level thing, right
that you cannot get that from like computers. So you might be able to
do the rhyme scheme and everything, but at a certain point, it's only
going to be to a certain level. It's never going to get to that
like almost say never, but I think it may take like some serious tech
to get to the place where it's like got the divine God element said this
before that I think it can be useful in regards like, say you're a
producer and you're trying to make reference tracks to pitch to sound like if you
can get like a whatever drake and I voice to cut the reference and you
really just pitch it and like, oh, this is how you sound on
the track, complete as you recorded. But then those leak and then the
artist is unhappy. Right, well they can, but I'm saying it could
be useful in that regard, Like, no, it can't replace the artists,
but I mean, if you understand what AI is doing, it's gathering
information from things that already exist, so it's not necessarily going to give you
anything new or it's already done, so you know there's a limit on it.
So we're here to say fuck AI. I didn't say that, so
you know that you know AI, when you see this years to come,
it was not me AI. We won't know me. Yeah, no,
no, no no. Are you watching the super Bowl for Taylor Swift or
Usher Usher USh? Yeah? Yeah, we love Tay, but no we
were not watching her? Is that her nickname in the music industry? With
that's what I say. I mean, we're not friends, girl, but
if you want to be my friends and what's good, what's good songs together?
You know, I really would write with her. She's amazing, a
brilliant, brilliant songwriter. Some of my favorite stuff of hers is like the
early like what's that song with? My song is a slam in front door?
Like I mean, she's just like a really brilliant storyteller. Yeah.
Yeah, speaking of friends, like, you know, people tend to say,
like, yeah, there's no friends in the industry, YadA, YadA,
yaday. Do you have you made friends in the industry that you like,
I can call and it's it's it's it's gravy, it's love. I
mean, I have associates. I was gonna say yeah, because I think
the thing is like, if I can't call you when I'm not hot and
when i'm not you know, when I'm down, are we really you know
I know each other? Yeah, if it's two in the morning, I'm
stranded, I need to ride, Can I call you you or can I
only call you? You know? When I got records? You know,
what I mean. So there's not very many people who will do for you
without needing you to do for them first, and so for that reason,
I'm gonna say no. But you know, I mean, I love everybody
like, but there's not a lot of people who I would say, like,
this is my friend, you can come to my house and you know,
just chill. As a songwriter, how important is it for you to
make you know, because do you obviously work with a lot of artists too,
How important is it for you to convey a message that is you rather
than making something for the audience. It's a good question. I just refuse
to sing things that I don't feel like I can sell. And what I
mean by that is like it's got to resonate with me. I can't sing
things that like conflict with my morals and values and things that I wouldn't say
in conversation, or things that I know you you know, I'm a firm
believer. You have to be careful what you're singing about because it could come
true and with the right situations and the right frequency, and you look up
and you're like, oh my god, my life is you know, falling
apart. So I just try to make sure that if I'm singing something,
it's authentic to me and either like maybe I'm living vicariously through a friend,
or I have to have experienced it like truly before before I will like put
it in your voice, you know it, So you're not selling something you
don't necessarily back up. Yeah, because you can tell. I think,
like just even with your movements, your mannerisms, the way you might you
know, shake your head or you know, flip your hair, that stuff
is kind of like baked in. When it's authentic, you don't have to
think about it. Or the audience can tell when you're like, oh yeah,
let me put my fist up right here, like you know what I
mean, and I never want to radio. The audience can sense when it's
phony, when it's not real. You know, YO made for me is
everywhere. Congratulations, Thank you, Congratulations flower flowers, flowers, We understand
you got to go. It's raining. Do you have a coat? Do
you want to borrow mine? I got this little shap Thank you, though,
really quick. Why do you think writers and ghost writers are kept in
the dark? How come certain artists don't claim writers, you know, when
they're so important and valuable well being on both sides. I'll say, as
an artist, there's so much going on that sometimes it's not intentional. It's
like, you know, there's there's the stylist, there's the manager, there's
an assistant, there's the you know, the makeup artist. There's this designer,
that designer, there's this radio person. There's so many people that sometimes
you you may just kind of like forget to acknowledge, which is not an
excuse, but it's just I under stand how it can happen. But I
will say that, like one time somebody I was like, man, I
just I know I'm an artist, like I could do this. And I
can't remember who it was, but I remember being at a dinner and the
guy was like, who's stopping you? Who says you can't do it?
Why do you feel that you need someone to give you permission? Who do
you think is going to be that person to give you a chance, And
me being like so like dumb, I was like, I don't know,
man, I don't know who's stopping me. And he never said it,
but years later I realized he meant me. Like it's a mindset and a
mental thing where you have to realize, like you can do anything you want
to do. There's these parameters and like imaginary boundaries that exist where people try
to keep you within a certain you know box, but you don't have to
follow that, and it just takes a lot of courage and fail that.
It's really scary. Sometimes you know, you don't want to walk away from
your bread and butter. You're afraid you don't know what else is coming around
the corner. So I don't fault any songwriter or producer for kind of like
being afraid to take that step, because if you fall, it's just you,
you know, all right, we gott to wrap it up. I
have ten more questions? Is that okay? Made for me? Thank you
very much, have a great day. Thank you very much. Thank you
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