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Welcome to season two, episode twenty
two of Clips in Dip. We are

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your more than once a week Clippers
podcast. You can find us on Spotify,

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Deezer YouTube, YouTube, dot com, slash at Clippers podcast. I

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Am Chuck Mockler. William Updyke is
usually with us. He is unavoidably detained.

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Adam Osland is always with us.
The Voice of your Clippers prem postgame

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on AM five seventy n l A
Adam. Things a little rough right now,

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Clippers, we're three and four.
How are you feeling before we give

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kind of these people a preview into
what we're talking about tonight. Doesn't matter

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how I feel. It's about what
I do. I don't know what that

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means. I no idea what that
means. I'm not following that train of

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thought, but I'm excited to see
where this episode goes. It's about actions,

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not good. I'm good, I
feel I feel fine, Chuck.

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It's good to be on with you. It was me and Will last time

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out. We're not just your once
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almost every day podcast. But we
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play like they're going to be on
Sunday you were, Will you're coming on

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with me post game, so we
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does. Yes, we're doing our
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are part of the two and three
Empire. Shout out two and three hoops,

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go follow all their good stuff.
Today we're gonna be talking the Clippers

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and the MAVs in season tournament game. The Clippers are struggling a little bit

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as they head into a game against
I think we can both agree the best

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team they've played so far this year, probably, Yeah, that's accurate.

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They're heading into the tougher part of
their schedule and they're three and four.

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Yes, sure, and they're three
and four. And then we're also going

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to talk the Mason Plumbley injury timeline. No official team announcement yet press release

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wise, but we got some news. Is gonna be up to two months.

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They're targeting Daniel Tye. We're going
to talk about all that, Adam.

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I think you and I might be
on the same page with that whole

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thing. Well, we'll get into
it later, but let's talk about Clippers.

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Yeah, yeah, exactly. Hey, Terrence Man for daniel Tye works

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straight out, That's all I'm saying
Clippers versus MAVs. The MAVs right now,

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they're six and two. Luca is
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Kyrie is at twenty points and seven
assists a game. He's not shooting that

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well. And Tim Hardaway off the
bench is absolutely killing it for them.

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The Clippers are in the opposite end
of the boat right now. I guess

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things have not been going well.
Let's talk broadly before we get into the

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specific matchup, Adam, where can
the Clippers be better on offense? Ninety

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three points against the Nets? We
think we're better than that, But what's

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going to break one hundred points so
far? With James Harden in their first

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two games? Two games games?
It is two games. But I do

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want to make this clear. You
look at it. The Clippers have played

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seven so far. Oh, that
means they have seventy five more games to

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go. No, actually they don't. They don't have seventy five more games

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where pg Kawhi, James Harden,
and Russell Westbrook will all be available.

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That's just the reality of the situation. It would be great if they were,

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but that's not gonna be the case. The schedule gets tougher there's more

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back to backs guys get dinged up. We've already seen it with Mason Plumbley.

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You never know what's gonna happen,
so we're gonna talk about that.

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But to play itself, it was
rough, Chuck. It's a bad play

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on Julius Randall's part. So are
you? It feels like you're are you

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sounding alarm bells? Two bells games? I call him urgency bills. I

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call him urgency urgency pings. They're
not alarmed bells, they're urgency pings.

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It's like, well, chat,
you're throwing out there. I just I

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don't want it to seem like they
have so much time when in reality they

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don't, and they don't have several
five more games of all those guys being

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healthy together that is fair so looking. I mean, let's start with the

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obvious. The Clippers offense has been
rough. Joey Linn had a tweet that

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I want to pull up though that
he pointed out the last two games of

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shooting variants has been wild. It's
been It's been very bad for the Clippers.

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Peg is nine for his last thirty
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he's three for sixteen from three that's
gonna hit the other side. There

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were two games before that where Paul
George was very good, and it's we're

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hitting a rough shooting slump at the
worst time, which is when you're integrating

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a new piece. So is it
though that they're hitting this at this time

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while they're while they're integrating a new
piece. I'm not blaming for this.

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What I'm saying is this, it's
harder to do. It makes it harder

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to bounce out of the slump,
for sure. Yeah, but they could

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be related. There could be a
correlation there. And I had this thought

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late last night, just like I
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tweeting something out. It was late. We're talking like two in the morning.

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Okay, so not crazy late.
That's not crazy late. It's two

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am is not crazy late. Six
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Like, what are we talking crazy
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but that's closer to the time I'm
waking up. Okay, okay, okay,

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is a crazy Okay? What was
What the fuck goes on in Montana?

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What time is there? There's no
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the darkness like Alaska. Yeah.
Uh so I just had this terrifying thought,

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and I want your help with this. Maybe you can think, maybe

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you can think of some instance in
NBA history where there have been four guys

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like this on the same team that
all needs shots, that all need shots

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to stay in rhythm. What if
it's just not possible to have a big

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four of scoreres not just Oh,
Draymond does this really well, or Chris

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Bosh can play this position and do
these things too in rebound, or Kevin

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Love can also do this, not
a specialized of a big four where there

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are obvious defined roles. Hey,
Klay Thompson doesn't want to dribble anyways,

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he doesn't need to. What if
there's just there's no really precedent to what

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we're seeing right now with what the
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damn near impossible to keep everyone in
a rhythm when four guys need shots out

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there. And I'm not trying to
sound the alarm bells here, I'm just

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wondering. I'm just wondering. When
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Let's say, right those four guys
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come out to averaging around fifteen Maybe
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case every night. I'm saying,
on average during a season, well that's

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sixty shots. There's seventeen more to
go around for the rest of the team

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while just trying to get each of
those guys around fifteen. And we know

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Kawhi is gonna take more. Paul
George last night he had twenty. James

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Harden only had nine, but Russell
Westbrook I think got eighteen. Kawhi had

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sixteen. Yes, russ took way
too many shots, which is what my

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main argument is going to be.
How which I think you're going to agree

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with, do you keep guys in
rhythm that a lot of these guys are

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rhythm shooters. A lot of these
guys when they cook, it's not because

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it's happening intermittently throughout the ball game. You're getting to eat, you're getting

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to eat, you're getting to eat. It's oh, this guy is feasting

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because he's hot right now, Well, what does that do for the guy

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next to him that hasn't touched the
ball in a while. Kawhi Leonard came

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into the game last night, was
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fourth quarter. He did not take
a shot till the one to fifty five

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March. It was about the fourth
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of him not taking a shot.
I just wonder how practical it is to

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keep a bunch of guys in rhythm. And it doesn't mean they all have

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to eat every game that one of
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can or two can and they can
still be successful. They certainly can.

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But the idea of a big four
and is that they all are coming at

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you in waves and who you stop. But in this case, if they're

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all needing to score as they're big
four, and it's not like the Golden

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State Warriors, Hey, Steph can
set guys up, he can come off

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screens, he can do all these
other things. Well, Kevin Durant can

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be a catch and shoot guy at
times. That's the EF and truth he

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was. He was the greatest catch
and shoot guy john times. Ever,

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Yeah, Draymond Green doesn't even want
to shoot. So there's a different big

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four here then. Really, I
think we've seen before because they all want

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to get shots up, need to
get shots up, are so good with

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the ball in their hands. It's
a little bit it's a little bit concerning.

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It is new ground. You're not
wrong about that, but where the

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other part that they've talked about that
we've heard them say is sacrifice and the

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biggest thing that's going to be sacrificed
if if it wants to be successful as

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we think. And again it's only
been two games. It's been two games,

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so we got a little more runway
to go at least with seeing how

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this goes. I'm not saying it's
been good yet, but it has been

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two games. James Hardt Night,
is that what you mean by sacrifice?

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I'm trying to understand. I'm trying
to explain. What needs to happen is

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that Russ needs to go to the
bench and get his bunch of field goal

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attempts on the bench. I'm not
and I don't think that's this week.

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Do you think that's happening anytime soon? No, that will not happen because

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we're going to see ten to fifteen
games, because the big because all the

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four wants it, and because Tyler
wants it. Do I think that's the

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best idea? Not at all.
But after this ten games sample size,

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I hope we got to see it
because Russ off the bench is nice.

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You've talked about it. It's not
a weird emotion. If they've talked about

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the sacrifice stuff and they've talked about
all this stuff, this shouldn't be an

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issue. And I think that I
hope that's what they do next. What

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you're saying, like, isn't wrong
about this starting lineup? But well,

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we're talking about fluky shooting variants,
right, Why is this happening? It's

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just wonky. It's gonna stop.
But if guys are without touching the basketball

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two games, that can lead to
some of these shooting woes. Sometimes.

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I agree, they don't have the
feel out there. They're used to touching

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the ball more, they're used to
getting more reps. So it's just a

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hard thing to juggle. I'm with
you. I think that would be great.

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I thought it was my biggest reason
for bringing in James Harden. You

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can get Russ off toge so and
what is the Clippers are playing a MAVs

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team that they're gonna have to catch
up with. Scoring wise, the MAVs

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are number one and three point attempts
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percentage per game, which is you're
that's absurd. It's early in the season.

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It's crazy sample size, but that's
what we're running into right now.

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So this is the game where the
Clippers where this big four who's been everyone

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seemed a little herky jerky to kind
of start. This is the game where

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hopefully it kicks into something or a
couple of these guys that it's time to

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put the pedal to the medal because
they they I don't want them to get

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blown out in this game. I
don't think they will, but it's going

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to take someone being assertive or shots
to fall. Because if Paul George hits

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a couple more shots, we're talking
I think a little bit different. But

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someone's got to be assertive in this
MAVs game specifically for sure, if they

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play the way they play the last
two games, they likely will get blown

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out. So something has to change
because the MAVs are that potent on offense.

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You said something interesting last night.
I believe it was to the degree

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of a they're all being aggressive at
the same time or all being passive at

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the same time. Yeah, so
yeah, elaborate on that for me,

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because I thought that was pretty good. It just feels like everyone you've been

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it's been your first day at a
new job before, and you've seen a

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task that needs to be done,
even though you haven't been there before,

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you know that this is there's a
motion you can make to complete something.

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But you know the other person who's
been here before is also going to notice

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that, and you hope you noticed
it and enough time to get it done

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without it being awkward for you to
do that for them. That's what it

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feels like. The Clippers playing offense
right now. It feels like like everyone

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somehow knows what has to happen,
but there's just this, like there was

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a path, Like James Harden has
hit Zoo with some wonderful pocket passes from

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the pick and roll. We've also
seen Zoo miss time the run and the

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ball goes behind him or some crazy
thing like that. Like it's early,

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but it just feels like once two
guys get on the same page, I

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don't care about all four right now. Let's just get baby steps, which

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I know isn't where we want to
be, but let's see James Harden specifically

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and one other guy of the big
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MAVs game when it comes to chemistry, and I'll and I think that will

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click quickly. That that's what really
I'm hoping for in this Maps game.

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I want to see some kind of
connection where two guys are in sync with

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the you go, I go type
energy because right now everyone's on a completely

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different frequency. And I know this
isn't analytical in any way, but like

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if you watch the games, no
one is in sync and that is a

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it's time thing, like, but
they gotta find something. The MAVs don't

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have the best defense. They're not
like very good, they're just below average

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and their defensive ratings, so there'll
be some space there. It's not as

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big of a team as like the
Knicks or something like that. But we

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got to hope that we see a
two man game from some of the Big

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four in this MAVs game, right
because there hasn't really been one between the

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big four well, I mean,
part of the reason that I have some

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concern is just it was set up
for them going up against the twenty fifth

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ranked defense missing a ton of guys, including Cam Thomas in the Brooklyn Nets

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last night. It was set up
for them to figure things out or have

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a little bit more chemistry out there, just two guys. Something happened,

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Yeah, and they couldn't. And
it was just really strange to see.

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You may have the three best guys
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with Kawhi, Paul George, and
James Harden you could quibble over as Michale

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Bridge whatever. Yeah, yeah,
And I would have thought just talent alone,

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they get it done. And there's
something else that's been on my mind.

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You know, you mentioned guys not
going to step on their toes,

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guys not just being too courteous.
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for each other exactly at the same
time, and they run into each other

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side and they're both just holding the
door closed still, like that's what the

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offense feels like. I kind of
just want to see more of playoff Kawhi

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in the regular season. And by
that, I mean we saw it in

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the overtime against the Lakers. By
that, I mean Kawhi just says,

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whatever, guys, you guys can
be out of sink. I'm gonna get

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mine now. I need to take
over that. I may play a little

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bit of hero ball here. Sorry, he cannot be good process. We're

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trying to win the ball. We
have good process or we tried things the

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first three quarters. Now I'm gonna
take things into my own hands and I'm

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gonna try to win the ball game. Specifically to that point. If you

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watch that possession against the Nets late
in the game, which we're gonna we're

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probably gonna talk about it, we
might as well talk about it now,

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where the Nets got like three of
their seven or like three of their four

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offensive rebounds in the fourth quarter came
on one possession. So why Leonard is

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sprinting around the perimeter guarding guys making
those shots difficult, which is why they're

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missing them, And then the guards
and Zoo are I guess doing their best

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to box out, but nothing is
happening, and you see assignments on blocking

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and you see Kawhi kind of throw
his hands up, and it's like they

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need to feed into what Kawhi is
doing on the defensive end, because the

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defense has also been there, right
like one hundred points, that's good defense.

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But they slipped at key times,
like in those in the offensive boards

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the MAVs, not the wild not
very good offensive on the boards or anything

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like that. But like that is
what Clippers fans are upset about. Is

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that late execution, and Kawhi is
doing his best and I hope that they

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feed into that. On the defensive
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think have been great defensively so far
this season, and even the last two

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games while missing Nicholas Batum last three
games so missing Batum, missing Roco,

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I've seen an amazing effort from them
on rotations on the perimeter. Paul George

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has been elite. He's been so
good there and in tune. And I

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like everybody has possessions where they fall
asleep for a little bit, but for

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the most part, those two have
impressed me with their play defensively. I

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thought Russ had a tough defensive game
last night when against Lonnie Walker hitting those

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threes in the third, a couple
of them were on Russ. Yeah,

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so against the Mavs' just like that's
I mean, that's a tough one to

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two to go against. Like we
got Kyrie and Luca now it is the

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MAVs are surging. It was tough
with just Luca when they had him.

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It was tough with Russ, Kyrie, Dallas Maverick beating the Clippers, and

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I feel bad for Zoo in this
game because Zho's going to be put on.

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If there's one thing we know about
Tyleru playing the MAVs, Zoo's taking

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that switch and he's we've been we
heard about in the off season how Zoo

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was going to go closer up on
these overscreens, right like he was gonna

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play a little further up. I'm
very interested to see if that happens against

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this MAVs team. I don't think
it will because I don't thing they're still

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they got a new guy that got
to figure out. I think we're gonna

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see Zoo and drop and I think
we're gonna see some absurd Lucas shots that

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Zoo's doing his best on and as
a seven foot or what else are you

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supposed to do? But they're gonna
go in. Yeah. I just feel

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bad for the highlight snippets. I
guess if you know what I'm saying,

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just know what's gonna happen. Don't
let demoralize you, play through it,

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keep going. Remember how he got
worn out by fourth quarters in that first

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round series in twenty twenty one and
his shooting percentage dipped precipitously. Zu,

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though picked a rough time to go
into a funk, which is basically where

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he's been thigh. Do we think
his thigh is still hurt because he's I

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think it was Russo who pointed out
on Twitter, or maybe it was till

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mayor he's not throwing it down like
he was late in the season. He

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there was some Zoo dunks where it
was like, oh, Zoo's putting it

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down a little bit. He doesn't
have the same burst. I just wonder

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if the thigh is bothering him.
This isn't some weird excuse or anything,

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but I think there's an issue there
with I don't think he's totally on.

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It could be that it could be
bleeding in from him not having a good

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series against Phoenix, Like is it
confidence right now? With a beatsa Zoo

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box. He seems very frustrated,
demonstrably with the officials and how things are

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being called. And he didn't play
big against the Brooklyn Nets, who were

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small the entire game, and that's
why you got pulled early in that third

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quarter for PJ. Tucker, like
two minutes in which we're going to talk

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about in the next second. That
cannot continue. Let's back to this Maps

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game. We got off course,
but I think all this is relevant to

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the Clippers have to play against the
Maps, who are playing very good basketball

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right now. I gotta think Paul
George is gonna start or he's gonna shoot

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a little bit better. We've seen
some glimmers of hope with Harden and Zoo

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in the pick and roll. I
hope we see more of the good than

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the bad. What are you looking
for on the bench, because the Tim

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Hardaway is what I'm a little bit
worried about. He's putting up an efficient

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eighteen a game off the bench for
Dallas, and our bench defense with plumb

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Lee out is in flux. Just
put it nicely. I guess I'm worried

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right now that what I said about
Bones before the James Harden trade is just

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going to come become scantly irrelevant because
I did he play in the second half

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last night? I thought, I
know they went down to an eight man

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rotation in the second half of the
Brooklyn, but Bones also is somebody that

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what he got I think six shots
up something like that. This was somebody

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that I really thought was going to
continue to develop. And then you see

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Terrence Man come back in and he's
not even playing heavy minutes last night?

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Just how do you find room for
bones? Had no minutes? Bones had

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no minutes in the second half.
That is I don't like I did not

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know that until eight nineteen Mountain Standard
time. I don't like that. I

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hate that. How has that not
been talked about for the hellscape that Clippers

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twitter is right now? How is
it the most apparently? But this is

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an actual important issue that I think
could be discussed. This is a real

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this is okay, do we have
to start second half bones minutes? Watch?

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Maybe that's crazy? I know something
else. I'm sorry, that's insane.

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There's one other thing that's been on
my mind, and it's going back

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to the Lakers game when normOn Powell
played like twenty three straight on court minutes

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he got the middle of the third
until he fouled out and overtime. Have

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we just like forgotten or not not
caring about a mere coffee anymore? Is

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a mere coffee still on the team. I think he was more than serviceable,

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and that was a game where they
were getting beat up on their defensive

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end. He could have switched onto
multiple guys if you had him out there

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against the Lakers and he's a big
body. I think you're not. I

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think you're partially not wrong. I
don't think he totally swings, but like

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so that this is this is indicative
of the larger issues that they ran an

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eight man rotation in the second half, that was it when there's just no

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reason to like I think a mirror
is maybe a known quantity at this point.

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Well I don't, but you're not
wrong, Like we need these wins.

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That's what's important, Like use everybody. I'm on your side, like

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I'm I'm fully on I'm agreed,
Like I don't. It's rough. We

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gotta fit these minutes for James,
which just cramps things up rotationally. Can

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Can I just point out how good
a mere coffee was in January? We've

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all we know, we know,
we have the receipts. I was there.

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It was a good time. He's
he's like he's got he's disappeared,

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like he's not getting well. When's
the last time he got consistent, real

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rotation, meaningful minutes though, either
to prove himself. I know last year

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his shot wasn't great, but he
didn't play much at all. Like sure,

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I'm not that worried about his shot
I want to see versatility defensively and

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some because wing stop is pretty much
over now in some ways. Oh it's

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been over. No, that was
that was a pop up. We got

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to pop up wing stop. Well, he's very good service. The mirror

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is not in the long run a
solid wing to give you ten minutes here

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there to sick on guys. I
My thing is that I'm not disagreeing with

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you. The thing that's difficult for
me to reconcile with is that this would

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actually make a difference. This shouldn't
make a difference. Well, you know

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what I'm saying. When I see
my three guards out there and it's Norm

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Bumbs and Russ or James Harden,
I think to myself sometimes, like you

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know, a mere Coffee is still
on the team, Like he could still

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be useful in certain in a certain
role. And has the guy had did

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he have the game winning layup when
that big comeback they had against Philadelphia against

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Doc Rivers to Amir really has shown
things at times for this team, and

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he's just completely gone and out of
the rotation. I'm not saying he should

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be getting thirty five minutes a night
or he's the one who's bridge the gap

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between a big four or something like
that. I'm just wondering in certain situations

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like that Laker game where Norton Fowls
playing twenty three straight minutes out there,

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and uh, they were going after
him defensively. Amir's Emir's around, right,

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He's not He's not hurt. Uh, he's not hurt. He's there.

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I don't know, So how are
we okay? Let's bring it back

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to the MAVs game. MAVs are
rolling, Clippers are not so much.

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What's your prediction for this Maps game? In your heart of hearts? What

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we want to see? Obviously,
we got to assume Paul George is gonna

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shoot better. I don't know about
that. He had a really he has

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seventeen in the first half. You
look at seven for twenty, but but

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the shoot you still want the shooting
to be better, right, Like,

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we can't pretend that we don't.
We can't pretend that we're okay with three

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for sixteen from three over the last
two games. That's rough. It's gonna

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be. Everybody has to shoot better. I don't even know about isolating.

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Paul George's got to shoot better.
And this is like everybody's a guy,

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but Paul George is Paul George is
a guy who's he's the he's the number

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two, So I would like him
to shoot better. I think it's fair

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to ask him to shoot better.
Yeah, in this game, of course,

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it's it's just so atypical compared to
what we're normally looking for. Oh,

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this guy needs to have a bounce
back and performance like no. The

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team has to bounce back after two
really bad offensive games and figure things out

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quickly with James Harden. Here's what
I hope happens. Because I mentioned this

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last night on Clips and Double Dip
on Clippers Talk. We've seen this team

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at times play down two opponents and
then get up for opponents. And it's

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a big game. It's the first
nd season tournament game. They're going into

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Dallas. It's a familiar foe,
they know him really well. I'm hoping

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they lock in and they find their
offense and they find some chemistry and oh

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no, what you just I just
I mean they haven't scored one hundred points

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the last week. I'm hoping they
figure it out. They haven't. Just

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sound so this I am with you, No, I'm I'm empathizing with you.

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Because it's been so rough. I
haven't heard you this downtrowd on the

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pod. This is I'm not I'm
I'm with you. I want to try

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to have a sense of urgency early
in the season. Seven games. My

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point is seventy five more with all
these guys healthy. Don't even get me

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started on that Paul George quote that
he set after the game. You know

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what I didn't see. You know
what what I'm talking about. You can

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tell me you didn't see it.
I haven't full disclosure. I haven't gone

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through all the postgame audio yet like
I normally do. Don't go through it.

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Paul George said, I'm not worried
about this. Of course you want

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to win these games. These are
games we feel we should win. But

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it's early in the season, too
early to even be in that mindset.

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We got too much star power here, great players for it not to work.

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I personally, I tweeted this,
said we should be in that we

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should win these games mindset. We're
three and four. This isn't a team

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that's noted for bouncing back from adversity. We do our best in the face

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of adversity, and it oh as
well as it should. When your guys

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are out. But when everyone's healthy, maybe we should think we should win

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these games. That's how I'm saying, that's how I feel. Let's get

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let's get some dubs. Yeah,
I'm with you. They need to and

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this is their toughest opponent this week
is their toughest so far. Yeah,

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and more tough teams are coming.
So look, I can't I predict go

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into the season saying, oh,
they should be like nine to four at

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worst in their first thirteen games,
and now they're three and four, and

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I just completely ignore that I said
that. I mean, that's part of

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why I think there should be a
sense of urgency, or at least I'm

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gonna talk like, hey, these
games matter, it's a big deal.

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It maybe early in the season.
It may just be Game three with James

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Harden, but they still matter.
There are teams right now that are taking

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off in the Western Conference, and
you don't want to be left behind.

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I love the urgency. I love
the urgency. I think they get the

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win. I think they get the
way. It's the in season tournament.

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Paul George is gonna shoot better.
Excuse me, I'm enjoying this wonderful Montana

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scotch Ale, Paul George is gonna
shoot better, Zoo. People are still

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gonna hate no matter what he does. I hope PJ. Tucker takes three

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shots, I don't care and just
make him think you're gonna take him m

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Yeah, I don't know. That's
what I'm hoping for. Yeah, actually

404
00:31:27,119 --> 00:31:32,440
was their best player yesterday. He
was a plus ten in a game they

405
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:37,960
lost by seven. That is that
makes my head hurt. That's that's what

406
00:31:38,079 --> 00:31:44,240
happened. They basically got outscried by
seventeen in the twenty eight minutes that PJ.

407
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:48,119
Tucker wasn't on the court. All
Right, we're gonna talk about PJ

408
00:31:48,279 --> 00:31:52,519
Tucker. We're gonna talk about Mason
Pumley being out for up to two months.

409
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412
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413
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one, twenty twenty two. Just
a little bit behind. Everything's just a

418
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little bit off righty, okay,
a little bit of fine tuning. Maybe

419
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we're gonna be Everything's fine. Everything
is fine. It can it be fine.

420
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I don't know why, even why
my name Tex says scary thoughts.

421
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Halloween's f and over check out.
So coming up in this segment, we'll

422
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:59,960
talk about trade scenarios or people that
could be available. I guess we could

423
00:33:00,079 --> 00:33:02,119
do that. Right off the top, here is Mason Plumbley, and this

424
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:07,920
was actually it's still good news overall. Yeah, it's not a season ending

425
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:14,480
injury. Anything outside of that is
pretty darn good news regarding Mason Plumbley and

426
00:33:14,559 --> 00:33:17,519
what you brought up was a scary, dangerous, maybe reckless play out there,

427
00:33:17,799 --> 00:33:22,880
but had no want to go after
it. I don't want to go

428
00:33:22,039 --> 00:33:25,359
after it. But if you watch
the play you I think everyone thought to

429
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:30,000
theirself, what the fuck is he
doing? Like I'm not saying it's like

430
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:31,680
a wreck. I don't think it
was. I don't think he was like

431
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:36,000
I want to tear Mason Plumley's knee, like, but it's just a play

432
00:33:36,039 --> 00:33:38,839
where it's just like that was a
dumb ass play, you know. I

433
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:44,359
think that play happened because he was
playing so bad, shooting just twenty seven

434
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,559
percent coming into that game. The
New York media, the fans, they

435
00:33:46,559 --> 00:33:51,319
were destroying him, and he wanted
to look like, hey, I'm on

436
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:55,160
the floor giving it full, all
out Dennis Frodman, superman like effort.

437
00:33:55,839 --> 00:33:59,759
I think that's why it happened.
Honestly, he had a good game before,

438
00:34:00,039 --> 00:34:02,119
it wouldn't have happened. But no, I like that idea. I

439
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:07,000
think that's that's maybe. I think
that that also like makes sense to me,

440
00:34:07,319 --> 00:34:09,880
Like if I were in his position
and there was a loose ball and

441
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:15,000
the New York Post was posting wild
shit about me, I could see me

442
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:20,960
anyway. It was a rough situation. But now PJ. Tucker is spelling

443
00:34:21,039 --> 00:34:25,159
of Itza Zubats, which Carl tart
I can say this on the show,

444
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:30,480
got a PJ. Tucker jersey.
He purchased a PJ. Tucker Clippers jersey.

445
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:32,360
I think he's the first. He's
the first and maybe only person outside

446
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:36,360
of the Tucker family to do that. But you have to do it.

447
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,880
Create a jersey on NBA. Oh
yeah, no, that's not Yeah,

448
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:45,119
that's not an available jersey's Yeah,
that's a couple extra shekels for the PJ.

449
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:49,000
Tucker jersey. I do like PJ
Tucker. I've been a fan for

450
00:34:49,039 --> 00:34:51,920
a long time. Sure, I
don't like him as the backup center.

451
00:34:52,119 --> 00:34:58,079
Yeah, well that's not crazy like
he's No, we cannot play small ball

452
00:34:58,199 --> 00:35:05,039
five with PJ Tucker. Oh they
have and we lost and it was bad.

453
00:35:05,679 --> 00:35:08,360
Well, actually I thought he won
his minutes. He was a plus

454
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:12,280
ten out there. I'm just saying
I thought he was pretty darn good.

455
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:19,039
I cannot argue with the plus ten
thing. But the Clippers front office seemingly

456
00:35:19,119 --> 00:35:22,239
understands that they also can't have PJ. Tuckers the back of five. Daniel

457
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:30,960
Tice was reported as shams as the
center of interest won the gold medal with

458
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:36,280
Germany over the summer, has not
played I don't think at all for the

459
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,599
Pacers, and he's vocal about it. He said, obviously after a great

460
00:35:38,599 --> 00:35:43,079
summer, I'm not happy with the
situation I'm in right now. He's a

461
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:47,559
six eight center. He sets really
good screens, hustle defense guy. People

462
00:35:47,599 --> 00:35:51,880
seem to love his passing. I'm
not sure I'm totally sold on that.

463
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:58,480
But he makes nine million a year, so this is not like an easy

464
00:35:58,599 --> 00:36:02,519
thing to do. Where are you
at on the Clippers reported? For everyone

465
00:36:02,519 --> 00:36:06,760
telling us maybe we shouldn't talk about
this, it's been reported they want daniel

466
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:12,679
Tye Adam, Where are you at? On the Daniel Tye scale? One

467
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:16,039
to ten? What ten? Gimme
Tye one? What the hell are we

468
00:36:16,079 --> 00:36:21,800
doing? What number does he wear? Can I let me chat it into

469
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,440
that scale? One of ten?
Look, I really liked him actually with

470
00:36:25,039 --> 00:36:30,320
Boston. I like the way he
played with Boston. I thought he was

471
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:32,679
a big time similar to PJ.
Tucker in some ways. He would still

472
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:39,079
be an undersized backup setter and somebody
that just plays with a lot of heart,

473
00:36:39,159 --> 00:36:45,079
a lot of hustle out there,
doesn't take a lot of shots.

474
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:49,519
His passing ability, yeah, he
showed that off at times with playing next

475
00:36:49,519 --> 00:36:53,719
to Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown.
I just don't know how realistic it is

476
00:36:54,199 --> 00:36:59,559
in less because everybody's looking at his
contract situation where he's making nine million,

477
00:37:00,119 --> 00:37:04,760
so you have to get within what
eighty percent of that in a trade?

478
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:08,039
Hey, Terrence Man for Daniel Tye
works, straight up? No, I

479
00:37:08,039 --> 00:37:13,079
don't think. I don't think that's
why they held out in Philadelphia to the

480
00:37:15,199 --> 00:37:19,719
Wait a minute, Daniel, Daniel, you don't know this deal we got

481
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:23,800
in the works over here. Yeah, Karon's taken and not by us,

482
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:30,199
it's actually Indiana. No, so
he's number twenty seven for Indiana. Doesn't

483
00:37:30,199 --> 00:37:34,760
really help me out anyway. Bad
number, I would argue, bad number.

484
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:39,119
Uh, okay, how do they
make it work for him? Who

485
00:37:39,159 --> 00:37:43,880
would the most likely players be involved? I'm assuming a Mere Coffee is one

486
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,400
of them. Well, so Man
and Zoo works straight up if you do

487
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:50,440
a one for one, but they're
not going to do. Hey, PJ.

488
00:37:50,679 --> 00:38:00,679
Tucker for Tye works. But if
you're Indiana, why you're you're wanting

489
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:06,960
more than PJ Tucker? Are you
a wave? Right? But also like

490
00:38:07,199 --> 00:38:10,079
they don't have to make this trade. They don't, right, so they

491
00:38:10,079 --> 00:38:14,440
would be like, give us more. They're not gonna be nice of them.

492
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:21,719
Maybe it's a future second round pick
something like that. What if it's

493
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,239
about more than just Daniel Tice.
Then to make the money work, I

494
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:28,559
haven't done. I haven't done enough
research for that. Can I tell you

495
00:38:28,559 --> 00:38:32,760
the research I have done? Yeah? What a low level research? Have

496
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:37,480
you been doing? Very low level
Plumbly and coffee work? But Plumbly can't

497
00:38:37,519 --> 00:38:39,320
be traded for a while to do
it his contract and a lot of people

498
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:44,920
want Norm traded. A lot of
people think Norm is redundant, and they

499
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:52,840
think that maybe you do Norm for
McConnell entice. H I do think Norm

500
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:58,639
is a legit trade asset, a
chip. I don't know if this is

501
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:00,559
the move though. I know a
lot of people say, well, I

502
00:39:00,599 --> 00:39:06,400
agree with you too much. Uh
and a lot a lot of teams aren't

503
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,119
going to want that contract. I
disagree. Once you get closer to the

504
00:39:09,159 --> 00:39:14,679
trade deadline and somebody sees Norm as
an easy fifteen, a game that can

505
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:19,400
aid their team, I think it
becomes a lot more valuable then. I

506
00:39:19,559 --> 00:39:22,920
like Norm on the Clippers right now, But there's a minutes crunch. You

507
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:27,719
want to talk about Boneshiland not playing, that's one of the major reasons.

508
00:39:28,599 --> 00:39:32,639
Uh. So, I don't know
if this is because I think Norm is

509
00:39:32,639 --> 00:39:38,960
one of their last season yeah,
well and Norm. So Norm plus the

510
00:39:39,039 --> 00:39:43,920
twenty thirty pick, if they want
to get really crazy, it's worth a

511
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:47,679
lot. Yeah, what if they
make a move for Jeremy Grant, Like,

512
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:52,679
that's a that's a I think if
things get crazy and they want to

513
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,360
make a move later in the season
for someone who's going to help them more

514
00:39:55,559 --> 00:40:00,679
than Daniel Tice, you save Norm
and the twenty thirty pick. I don't

515
00:40:00,679 --> 00:40:06,159
think they will. It's not based
on anything, but I would rather just

516
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:10,320
sign WINNYM. Gabriel. I like
Winnam Gabriel. I saw him plenty of

517
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:15,119
the Clippers last year. He hustles, he plays hard. We're talking about

518
00:40:15,119 --> 00:40:21,440
somebody playing ten to fifteen minutes a
night. But so here's the other thing

519
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:27,880
that's tough is that Plumbley was getting
around seventeen a night. Most of his

520
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,760
nights were over twenty because he had
some offset ones in there to start this

521
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:36,519
thing. What worries me is,
sure, let's say we sign you know,

522
00:40:36,559 --> 00:40:38,760
we sign a backup five who's not
six eight Daniel Tice. I'm hung

523
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:43,840
up on the height. I will
say that Gabriel is a little bit undersized

524
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:47,880
too, but that guy bullies.
But we're still stuck with Tucker playing some

525
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:53,000
small ball five minutes. So I
think in the greatly likes Tucker. He's

526
00:40:53,039 --> 00:40:59,079
going to play some which sucks,
which like, which is not ideal.

527
00:41:00,159 --> 00:41:02,199
Right now, He's gonna play,
but he can't play as the center.

528
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:09,119
The team is rough with him at
center. I you want him at the

529
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:14,400
four, like guarding guys that are
even quicker. I mean no, but

530
00:41:14,559 --> 00:41:17,480
like it's a no win situation.
Like I'm not saying there's a there's a

531
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:22,000
better scenario. So I guess I
wish. I guess I wish Mason Plumley

532
00:41:22,079 --> 00:41:27,119
wasn't hurt because I feel like I
guess that's what it comes back to.

533
00:41:27,159 --> 00:41:30,639
Mason Plumley's hurt, and Big Zoo
is going through a rough patch at the

534
00:41:30,639 --> 00:41:32,199
same because he was going through rough
patch, we can talk about that.

535
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:39,519
He it bums me out that he's
gonna have such a he's got to make

536
00:41:39,559 --> 00:41:43,360
so much more quick decisions in the
short role. We've seen him make good

537
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:46,440
decisions in the short role, but
James Harden is a different level of distributor,

538
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:52,960
a very quick like it's it's a
to B right there, and Zoo

539
00:41:53,039 --> 00:41:58,119
needs to get to that and he's
not ready for it yet and the spacing

540
00:41:58,199 --> 00:42:01,440
is wonky. He needs to get
on the jugs machine or have John Elway

541
00:42:01,519 --> 00:42:07,960
so a few balls to him or
something like that scene. Is it that?

542
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:10,880
The scene in Airbud, the really
sad scene where the bad dad is

543
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:15,679
throwing the basketballs at the kid to
try and get him to catch the passes

544
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:21,000
better. I thought was something we
talked about by the preview, but nobody

545
00:42:21,079 --> 00:42:27,159
actually had seen. If you haven't
seen, you want to talk about a

546
00:42:27,199 --> 00:42:34,239
specific seed from Airbun, remember that
one part. It's a horrifying scene.

547
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:40,920
It's terrible. I think Zoo needs
to make quicker decisions out of the short

548
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:49,199
roll and at the basket go up
strong. He got blocked by small yesterday.

549
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:53,119
I think it was about possessions where
he got blocked. Paul George usually

550
00:42:53,159 --> 00:42:57,760
doesn't say the right thing, but
when he said that Zoo Bots needs to

551
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:01,760
play like the biggest guy on the
court, he absolutely nailed that. Most

552
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:07,119
of the time he's he's doing his
own thing. But that quote is totally

553
00:43:07,119 --> 00:43:08,599
on point. Zoo needs to play
how big he is, and I think

554
00:43:08,599 --> 00:43:12,760
it's the quad thing. I think
it's the quad. I don't think it's

555
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:16,599
one hundred, which sucks. Yeah, that's the problem then too. Whatever

556
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:22,800
the reason is, whether it's between
the ears or physically, he's laboring right

557
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,880
now and not one and just trying
to fight through it. We know he's

558
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:30,400
the type of guy that would he
never wants to miss a game. No.

559
00:43:30,559 --> 00:43:35,239
Typically when he can go on,
there's something related going on there.

560
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,920
Like even last season, before he
started missing games, you could tell,

561
00:43:38,679 --> 00:43:42,719
Uh he was a little bit hobbled
out there. He wasn't quite right.

562
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:46,760
So Biggs is a tough guy.
He is. What do you think about

563
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:54,360
Nerlin's Knoll Noel? Yeah, I
love him, actually wanted him. I

564
00:43:54,440 --> 00:44:06,079
wanted him on the first Noel.
I wanted him years ago. Dude.

565
00:44:01,679 --> 00:44:07,840
You see, he had a really
good year a few years ago with Okac,

566
00:44:08,119 --> 00:44:10,440
and then I think he went to
New York and I was like,

567
00:44:10,519 --> 00:44:15,519
man, I wouldn't mind seeing him. So I just don't. I don't

568
00:44:15,559 --> 00:44:17,400
know if he's been bad or hurt, which if that's the case, then

569
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,800
maybe I don't want it. I
obviously don't want him on the team.

570
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:25,480
He's a free agent and I and
I know I keep harping on this.

571
00:44:27,119 --> 00:44:32,360
I don't Mason Plumbley was a legit
seven footer. Daniel Tye is six to

572
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:37,880
eight. We're just playing small ball
again. We're just playing small ball with

573
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:44,840
a shooter. And I don't think
that is what the Clippers need for eighteen

574
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,639
minutes a game, because then that
means that daniel Tye is six to eight.

575
00:44:47,679 --> 00:44:53,280
That means the backup center after him
is PJ. Tucker. And it's

576
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:57,519
just like more of the same shit, Like what is PJ Tucker? And

577
00:44:57,639 --> 00:45:01,079
daniel Tye is a way better passer
than PJ tu Obviously everything else is the

578
00:45:01,119 --> 00:45:07,920
same. Here's what's so longing about
last night. Last night's game. They

579
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:14,039
saw a team in the Brooklyn Nets, who played small the entire time.

580
00:45:14,679 --> 00:45:19,760
They didn't have Nick Clackson, they
didn't have Cameron Johnson, Cam Thomas goes

581
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:24,519
out, they didn't have Ben Simmons, and they still played bigger down the

582
00:45:24,559 --> 00:45:30,920
stretch or looked like it than the
Clippers. Yeah, that was the ideal

583
00:45:30,039 --> 00:45:37,960
situation for Zoo to detonate, yeah
and take over, and it didn't happen.

584
00:45:37,159 --> 00:45:40,480
That was an ideal situation for the
Clippers to crush them on the boards.

585
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:45,039
I think they ended up winning it
by like two but they lost on

586
00:45:45,119 --> 00:45:49,920
the offensive Clippers. So yeah,
hold on, I actually I've been pouring

587
00:45:50,039 --> 00:45:59,920
over these stats for the whole game. The Clippers won boards. Yeah,

588
00:46:00,119 --> 00:46:05,800
offensive boards for the nets fourteen to
eleven for the clips, eleven for the

589
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:12,679
clips. And by the way,
yeah, to watch just watch some of

590
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:16,719
the guard play. Yeah, and
we have seen so far in fourth quarters.

591
00:46:17,119 --> 00:46:22,159
Not only have they lost the last
two games, they got worse by

592
00:46:22,159 --> 00:46:27,880
the end of the last two games
when the going in fourth quarters. Yeah,

593
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,800
they had eight turnovers in the fourth
quarter last night, it was there

594
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:32,599
seven or eight. I've seen two
different box scores on this, but I

595
00:46:32,599 --> 00:46:38,480
believe that. Can we talk about
that for a second. What the fuck

596
00:46:38,599 --> 00:46:44,079
is up with the box scores?
Dude, NBA dot Com? Not right.

597
00:46:44,679 --> 00:46:47,400
I'm getting team box scores that I
assume are right, but they're different

598
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:52,679
than like, how can we not
figure the ship out? It's like that

599
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:55,599
scene in air Bud where they thought
he had the quadruple double, but uh,

600
00:46:55,719 --> 00:47:01,920
they took the courts took it away, they ruled mistrial. Like,

601
00:47:02,639 --> 00:47:07,159
I don't know what the statisficians are
here, make it the same. It

602
00:47:07,159 --> 00:47:09,519
should all be the same anyway,
Sorry, they're talenting it in real time

603
00:47:09,599 --> 00:47:14,760
and people see things differently, Okay, but like have one person tally it,

604
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:20,920
you know what I'm saying. Like, that's why during Jordan's defensive MVP

605
00:47:21,119 --> 00:47:24,800
season, you got a lot of
love at home by the box. Everyone

606
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:28,920
does. There are a lot more
steels and blocks at home than when I

607
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:35,320
was on the road. John Stockton
got hockey assists. Who cares, it's

608
00:47:35,519 --> 00:47:38,599
just anyway I mean, I mean
they have been fudged forever, like the

609
00:47:38,639 --> 00:47:44,280
box scores inconsistencies, that's that's a
well known thing. But I think it

610
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:47,320
was it was either seven or eight
assists in the fourth quarter. My point

611
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:53,199
is when teams are starting to tighten
the screws during winning time, that puts

612
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:58,360
even more pressure on you to fall
back on whatever foundation or system or what

613
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:04,480
you're running offensively, and the don't
have anything to fall back on. That's

614
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:08,840
that's why it's looked so bad those
early minutes in the fourth quarter. They

615
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:13,119
had four turnovers in the in the
first three minutes. Four turnovers. Last

616
00:48:13,159 --> 00:48:16,480
night, they had that set quick
seven er run against them h with the

617
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:20,679
New York Knicks in a rough lineup
that was out there, and that's something

618
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:25,320
else I'm still I'm still a little
bit perplexed. Correct me if I'm wrong,

619
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:31,920
But I thought I was at media
day and I thought Coach flu specifically

620
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:37,599
said when they were talking about availability
and having Kawhi and Paul George fully unleashed

621
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:40,599
that I could be wrong, but
I thought he said they were going to

622
00:48:40,639 --> 00:48:44,880
stagger them. One of them would
be on the court at all times.

623
00:48:45,519 --> 00:48:50,320
That is yet to happen seven games
into the season. In fact, the

624
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:52,840
last minute and a half of the
first quarter last night, sure none of

625
00:48:52,840 --> 00:49:00,440
the Big four were on the court, which happens. You know, I

626
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:05,440
thought we have two of them at
all times once they brought in Harden,

627
00:49:05,519 --> 00:49:10,480
and it hasn't happened yet. And
I know it's it's built in that you

628
00:49:10,559 --> 00:49:15,760
are going to try new things because
you haven't seen James Harden play with this

629
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:19,880
group or that group, and there's
different combinations out there, and I understand

630
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:24,199
there's built in tinkering happening, and
it has to happen, but I would

631
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:30,880
just I'm wondering, can we get
Paul George and Kawhi Leonard? Is it

632
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:34,199
a minute thing why one of them
can't be on the court at all times?

633
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:37,679
I don't understand it. I will
say pretty much every advanced at shows

634
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:42,639
that the Clippers absolutely destroy opponents with
both of them on the floor. So

635
00:49:43,639 --> 00:49:47,199
I do get it from that standpoint, But this is also based on what

636
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:52,159
they said, so you're not I
get that. I just and I think

637
00:49:52,199 --> 00:49:55,079
this is actually kind of a good
way to close the show, where we

638
00:49:55,159 --> 00:49:59,760
obviously want the Clippers to beat the
Maps. We want that to happen.

639
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:06,639
I don't think anyone knows how,
and I mean that in a very honest

640
00:50:06,679 --> 00:50:09,639
way. We don't know how,
like none of us really like in terms

641
00:50:09,639 --> 00:50:13,719
of what needs to happen. We
yeah, sure, maybe Russ maybe needs

642
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:16,800
to get benched for Transpan. That's
not gonna happen tomorrow. We're at this

643
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:22,719
point where we're going game by game, which is uneasy, and we have

644
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:29,039
enough talent that they should probably not
be three and four. They definitely shouldn't

645
00:50:29,079 --> 00:50:32,880
be three and four, and we
need when this is the situation if we're

646
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:37,679
talking about the sacrifice, we're talking
about who really is the big four and

647
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:42,719
how that works on this team.
It's Kawhi and Paul George lifting us during

648
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:45,360
this time of uncertainty, and I
don't think that's A. I don't mean

649
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:49,840
that in some mean way like they
haven't. They were great in the Lakers

650
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:52,760
game, you know, like maybe
you have too bad games. Sure,

651
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:55,320
this is the game that was a
Western Conference opponent. This matters a lot

652
00:50:55,360 --> 00:51:00,320
more than these two other Eastern Conference
games we played. This is the time

653
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:04,559
for Kawhi and Paul George. Not
that they haven't done this, but this

654
00:51:04,599 --> 00:51:10,320
would be a really great time for
them to assume their responsibilities and play like

655
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:16,320
we know they can play. Because
if they are at eighty percent at the

656
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:22,519
same time, give me the Clippers
every single day, even just eighty percent

657
00:51:22,559 --> 00:51:25,639
of them at the same time together, give me the Clippers every single day.

658
00:51:27,119 --> 00:51:31,159
And that's what we need right now
while Mason Plumley's out and we try

659
00:51:31,199 --> 00:51:37,599
and integrate James Harden into this lineup. Yeah, with those two available,

660
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:44,599
when they have been the Clippers have
won seventy percent of the games. They

661
00:51:44,639 --> 00:51:49,280
have a gas when they're still the
stars when they're there. So to be

662
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:54,000
three and four having them all seven
games so far is tough. And I'll

663
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:58,519
say it again, but it could
just be, and it really has to

664
00:51:58,559 --> 00:52:02,000
be if it's going to be successful. This is the one step back to

665
00:52:02,079 --> 00:52:07,639
get to two steps or three steps
or four steps of things really forward.

666
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:13,239
Let's yeah forward, yeah for man
greatly forward. Maybe not, that's a

667
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:19,000
little d okay. So we hope
the Clippers win against the Maps. We're

668
00:52:19,039 --> 00:52:22,559
gonna be we're doing a double dip
tomorrow. You and Will maybe, yeah,

669
00:52:22,599 --> 00:52:25,480
either one of you, guys,
whoever's available, let's definitely do it.

670
00:52:28,079 --> 00:52:30,599
I am back in Los Angeles on
Saturday. I'll tell you what I

671
00:52:30,679 --> 00:52:37,960
cannot wait to be back. I
can A lot is wrong with number one.

672
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:40,639
I have to have a Vitamin D
light when I work. There's no

673
00:52:42,199 --> 00:52:45,159
fucking sun here. I don't know
how I lived here for so long.

674
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:52,599
Anyway, full try, oh my
god, full tripod on Sunday, after

675
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:55,559
the nooner. There's the noon thirty
game on Sunday. We can get a

676
00:52:55,559 --> 00:53:00,639
full tripod going. That'll be fun. Yeah, just guys, hang it

677
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:05,039
up. Maybe we go live,
let's do it live. I'm good with

678
00:53:05,079 --> 00:53:07,199
that. Yeah. Actually we haven't
done like a post game like that live.

679
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:10,199
That'd be fun. The last time
we did live was when we did

680
00:53:10,199 --> 00:53:15,239
the Hardened thing and everyone watch what
we said. And then after a bunch

681
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:17,199
of stuff happened came and commented on
it. Yeah, wish I could do

682
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:22,480
the same. Uh. Check us
out on YouTube over on YouTube dot com

683
00:53:22,559 --> 00:53:27,719
Slash at Clippers podcast. You can
find us on iTunes. Reviews help us.

684
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:30,079
We haven't read them in a while, but we will when we're all

685
00:53:30,079 --> 00:53:34,599
together. We appreciate everyone who's listening. If you're a new fan and you're

686
00:53:34,639 --> 00:53:37,440
still a fan after they lost two
games in a row, you're in the

687
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:40,320
family. If you bailed after they
lost two games in a row, enjoy

688
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:44,599
whatever else you're doing. Welcome to
all the new people. Thank you to

689
00:53:44,639 --> 00:53:46,239
all the old people who've stuck with
us. Shout out Eric Bue for these

690
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:52,440
wonderful graphics. Adam, I've been
pretty positive this episode, but you send

691
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:59,280
out the listeners with a fantastic positive
thing most episodes. What can you tell

692
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:04,000
these fantastic people as we head into
this crucial matchup against them? HAPs look

693
00:54:04,039 --> 00:54:07,800
as concerned as I've been in this
episode regarding just whether or not it's possible

694
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:13,440
for four guys to stay hot and
stay in rhythm together at once. The

695
00:54:13,519 --> 00:54:15,719
truth is, these are the problems
you typically do want to have in the

696
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:21,280
National Basketball Association. These are first
world NBA problems. How do we figure

697
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:24,320
out how to get James Harden,
Paul George Kawhi Leonard, and Russell Westbrook

698
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:28,840
to work together. You'd rather have
this than what some of the teams coming

699
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:31,199
into the season that just have hopes
of maybe being in the play in tournament

700
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:37,639
are dealing with right now. So
let's put things in perspective. And coach

701
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:42,039
Lou I think is the right guy. Uh when the going gets tough.

702
00:54:42,199 --> 00:54:46,320
We've seen him be masterful in playoff
situations and make those tough decisions. And

703
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:51,440
I feel like tomorrow night, you
know, it's an nd season tournament game,

704
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:53,599
it's basically the playoffs. No,
okay, it's not that. It's

705
00:54:53,599 --> 00:55:00,480
not like that. It's basically it's
not. But it's gonna be a heightened

706
00:55:00,599 --> 00:55:04,320
atmosphere. It's gonna be fun,
sure, and I think the Clippers are

707
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:07,960
gonna rise to the challenge. I
hope they do. And some of that

708
00:55:07,079 --> 00:55:12,159
shooting stuff, like the five straight
open three pointers they miss in the fourth

709
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:16,159
quarter against the Brooklyn Nets, They're
due to hit five straight from the outside.

710
00:55:16,519 --> 00:55:21,119
So maybe it's the right time there
we go wrong time for the Mavericks

711
00:55:21,119 --> 00:55:23,559
have to deal with the Clippers with
the right time for the Clippers to find

712
00:55:23,559 --> 00:55:27,960
themselves and get their shooting, shooting
luck and variants back in their favor.

713
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:30,960
There we go. We will be
back with the full crew. William Hopdyke

714
00:55:31,079 --> 00:55:34,960
is usually with us. I am
Chuck Mockler. He is Adam Oslin.

715
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:37,960
Find us on Twitter. Just look
up our names. We'll find him.

716
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:39,719
We'll be back and as always,
let's go Clips
