WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.760 --> 00:00:52.560 The following presentation isnt Al Margat Studios Production. Welcome back truth seekers from around 2 00:00:52.600 --> 00:00:57.439 the world. It is time for another edition of the flat Earth Files. 3 00:00:57.960 --> 00:01:00.679 I hope this podcast find everyone. Finds everyone well. We have a very 4 00:01:00.679 --> 00:01:04.599 special guest standing bye. She'll join us in just a moment, but before 5 00:01:04.879 --> 00:01:07.760 we bring her on, just a few quick housekeeping items. First, don't 6 00:01:07.799 --> 00:01:11.959 forget our live show with David Weiss October eleventh, eight pm Eastern Time on 7 00:01:12.000 --> 00:01:17.840 our Rumble Channel. All the information will be on the website here in the 8 00:01:17.840 --> 00:01:21.280 next week or so, so just be patient for that. Put that on 9 00:01:21.319 --> 00:01:23.359 your calendar. And of course, if you'd like to join us like Jessica 10 00:01:23.519 --> 00:01:29.280 is today, please send your emails to the flat earth Files at gmail dot 11 00:01:29.319 --> 00:01:33.959 com. Again, it's the flat earth Files at gmail dot com. And 12 00:01:34.040 --> 00:01:37.680 once again please do stop by the website and say hello. We have our 13 00:01:37.760 --> 00:01:40.680 chat room, we have our forum, we have our truth Secret Radio that 14 00:01:41.000 --> 00:01:45.120 place content twenty four seven and much to do. Stop by and say hello. 15 00:01:45.239 --> 00:01:49.640 It is the flat earth Files dot com. Without any further ado, 16 00:01:49.680 --> 00:01:53.599 we're going to bring on our special guest today. Her name is Jessica. 17 00:01:53.959 --> 00:01:59.280 She's currently in the Idaho area and Jessica, thank you so much for joining 18 00:01:59.359 --> 00:02:02.159 us today. We grew appreciate it. Hi, George, I am beyond 19 00:02:02.280 --> 00:02:07.319 excited to be here today. I told all two of my flatterth friends to 20 00:02:07.400 --> 00:02:09.879 tune in tonight. Well I'll bet you that's two more than a lot of 21 00:02:09.919 --> 00:02:15.280 people have, because they are swim pickins, you know. Be besides my 22 00:02:15.360 --> 00:02:19.919 wife here, locally, there's not you know, I have one relative that's 23 00:02:20.120 --> 00:02:23.280 kind of there, and I kind of take when somebody says they're kind of 24 00:02:23.319 --> 00:02:25.280 there. They really are there. They're just they don't want to publicly say 25 00:02:25.280 --> 00:02:30.080 it because of the stigma, right right, exactly. Yeah, so let's 26 00:02:30.080 --> 00:02:36.280 start, go ahead and tell the listeners a little bit about yourself. Okay, 27 00:02:36.360 --> 00:02:40.000 So my name is Jessica. I live in Idaho. I'm forty four, 28 00:02:40.400 --> 00:02:45.599 and I'll let's stay I've been happily married for twenty one years. I 29 00:02:45.719 --> 00:02:49.479 have two amazing kids. I have a fourteen year old son and an eleven 30 00:02:49.560 --> 00:02:58.599 year old daughter, fantastic musicians and athletes. I'm originally from Writing, California, 31 00:02:58.680 --> 00:03:02.800 but I've lived all over the the US and I think I've led a 32 00:03:02.840 --> 00:03:07.960 pretty interesting life in my last forty four years. And I think a lot 33 00:03:08.000 --> 00:03:15.159 of that has led me up to the great awakening of flat Earth and all 34 00:03:15.199 --> 00:03:20.520 the excitement and wonder that it brings with it. So yeah, and from 35 00:03:20.520 --> 00:03:24.800 your email, you certainly have had a lot of interesting even moments in your 36 00:03:24.840 --> 00:03:29.599 life. You started singing opera when you were nine years old. That is 37 00:03:30.400 --> 00:03:32.120 quite the talent. But then, did you want to talk a little bit 38 00:03:32.159 --> 00:03:38.439 about the what you were, what you experienced at the age of seventeen when 39 00:03:38.439 --> 00:03:43.599 you moved to La Well, I never actually got a chance to move to 40 00:03:43.719 --> 00:03:50.919 LA I had an opportunity to go to la to work on a project for 41 00:03:51.400 --> 00:03:57.719 Disney with Steven Spielberg, and I was still technically a minor, so my 42 00:03:57.800 --> 00:04:01.319 mom definitely had a say and whether I could go or not, and she 43 00:04:01.360 --> 00:04:04.680 didn't want me to go, that's right, And I was furious that I 44 00:04:04.719 --> 00:04:09.280 couldn't go, Like, this is my big break. You're ruining this for 45 00:04:09.319 --> 00:04:12.800 me, you know, I've been working so hard for this, and knowing 46 00:04:13.400 --> 00:04:18.160 now all of the horrificness of Hollywood and the music industry. I am so 47 00:04:18.279 --> 00:04:24.560 thankful that I didn't go, because I don't know where I'd be today if 48 00:04:24.600 --> 00:04:27.560 I had taken that opportunity. And she had said, yes, you know, 49 00:04:27.959 --> 00:04:30.000 and that's what I was going to say at the time as a seventeen 50 00:04:30.079 --> 00:04:33.639 year old, who most of us when we're seventeen are all about the world 51 00:04:33.680 --> 00:04:38.920 and music and you know, the movies, that type of thing. We 52 00:04:38.959 --> 00:04:42.920 would just been furious locks, you know, closed the door in or bedrooms 53 00:04:42.920 --> 00:04:46.360 and not spoken to anybody for a few days. But in retrospect, like 54 00:04:46.399 --> 00:04:48.000 what we all know is truth, there's what really goes on in Hollywood. 55 00:04:49.000 --> 00:04:55.600 What a great move that was. Yeah, yeah, exactly so. And 56 00:04:55.639 --> 00:05:00.279 I do absolutely have a family friend who is an actor. He's a pretty 57 00:05:00.319 --> 00:05:04.879 famous actor. My dad and his dad worked in nuclear power together, so 58 00:05:04.959 --> 00:05:08.759 him and I grew up as kids, and he's pretty famous now. And 59 00:05:08.800 --> 00:05:12.000 I don't communicate with him a whole lot, and I don't want to just 60 00:05:12.040 --> 00:05:14.000 come out and ask him and be like, hey, what is the deal? 61 00:05:14.079 --> 00:05:15.839 Is it really like this, like what's going on? You know, 62 00:05:15.519 --> 00:05:18.839 coming from a Christian home, what is your thoughts? And you know, 63 00:05:18.879 --> 00:05:23.000 if I give read chest ask him, I'm definitely going to talk to him 64 00:05:23.000 --> 00:05:26.800 about that, if I can get up the nerve to go down that rabbit 65 00:05:26.839 --> 00:05:30.560 hole with him, you know, and not be weird. So so let's 66 00:05:30.600 --> 00:05:32.720 talk a little bit about your journey to the truth, if I'm not overstepping 67 00:05:32.759 --> 00:05:39.399 too much events in your journey. But like many people, flat earth was 68 00:05:39.439 --> 00:05:44.439 one of the later rabbit holes that you would come about. So tell us 69 00:05:44.480 --> 00:05:46.839 a little bit about your journey to the truth. What was kind of the 70 00:05:46.879 --> 00:05:48.480 first rabbit hole you went down, and what led you to flat Earth? 71 00:05:50.920 --> 00:06:00.160 So let's see. I I always felt like, well, I guess they 72 00:06:00.160 --> 00:06:03.439 should start from the beginning. Let's just start from them sinning. So my 73 00:06:03.560 --> 00:06:08.120 dad worked in nuclear power and he was a welder nuclear power plants. And 74 00:06:08.879 --> 00:06:14.480 we lived all over the US, and we lived in Salt Lake City, 75 00:06:14.639 --> 00:06:18.560 and I was a small child, almost four years old, and I was 76 00:06:18.680 --> 00:06:25.439 kidnapped from a by a Mormon bishop's son out of my front yard. And 77 00:06:27.439 --> 00:06:30.720 while IDA was and this all ties into the discovery flat Earth, I promise. 78 00:06:30.800 --> 00:06:36.480 But while I was taken, I was in the back of his car 79 00:06:36.680 --> 00:06:44.000 and I saw an angel, an angel like being in the back of the 80 00:06:44.000 --> 00:06:51.160 car with me. And when I had discovered flat birth and what the stars 81 00:06:51.199 --> 00:06:56.160 actually looked like when you're looking at them through a telescope, I was blown 82 00:06:56.199 --> 00:06:59.800 away because that's the only way I could describe what I saw as a child 83 00:07:00.800 --> 00:07:03.439 in the backseat of this predator's car, and there was no other way to 84 00:07:03.480 --> 00:07:06.439 describe it all these years, my whole life. I'm like, I saw 85 00:07:06.480 --> 00:07:10.279 this thing, and I just don't know how to describe it. And then 86 00:07:10.319 --> 00:07:15.879 when I saw the close up of the stars underneath, looked like it's, 87 00:07:15.920 --> 00:07:20.319 you know, this prism shining through water. That is exactly what I've seen 88 00:07:20.399 --> 00:07:26.160 in my head my entire life since that incident. So it was pretty easy 89 00:07:26.279 --> 00:07:30.680 for me to accept what I was seeing and what I was hearing was the 90 00:07:30.720 --> 00:07:34.639 truth because it finally a lot of things finally made sense to me. And 91 00:07:36.199 --> 00:07:41.959 so so, yeah, so I was I was taken, and they have 92 00:07:42.079 --> 00:07:48.800 found me within forty eight hours later, left alone in a construction site kind 93 00:07:48.800 --> 00:07:54.480 of near our neighborhood. And you know, because of that, they always 94 00:07:54.560 --> 00:07:58.480 felt a little different, you know, being exposed to such evil. I 95 00:07:58.560 --> 00:08:03.040 just felt like I could sense evil more in people, I think than the 96 00:08:03.079 --> 00:08:07.199 average person who hasn't been so exposed to it like I was. So I 97 00:08:07.199 --> 00:08:11.720 always felt a little, you know, a little different in that way. 98 00:08:11.800 --> 00:08:16.560 So it really wasn't a surprise to me when you know, I was awaken 99 00:08:16.600 --> 00:08:18.319 to the truth of flat Earth, and I'm like, oh, okay, 100 00:08:18.399 --> 00:08:20.920 yes, this completely makes sense. I don't know how, I don't know 101 00:08:22.000 --> 00:08:24.800 why it all ties in together, but somehow it just miraculously does. And 102 00:08:24.839 --> 00:08:28.759 they think that the people that have gone through a lot of things in their 103 00:08:28.759 --> 00:08:33.200 life, you know, they're made tough, and so awakening to all this 104 00:08:33.320 --> 00:08:41.759 was just a really easy thing for me to grasp the concept of I I 105 00:08:41.840 --> 00:08:45.960 remember because, like I said, my dad worked in nuclear power and he 106 00:08:46.080 --> 00:08:52.759 became very sick from an overdose of gamma radiation. And so I dedicated about 107 00:08:52.799 --> 00:08:56.840 three and a half years in my life, my adult life, to researching 108 00:08:56.960 --> 00:09:03.120 the effects of nuclear radiation on the human body. And I was watching this 109 00:09:03.960 --> 00:09:09.440 news story Gosh twenty fifteen, and they were talking about the Van Allen radiation 110 00:09:09.519 --> 00:09:13.080 belts and talking about how like the astronauts when they went through the Van Allen 111 00:09:13.360 --> 00:09:16.480 radiation belts, and I'm like, wait a minute, you can't go through 112 00:09:16.559 --> 00:09:20.000 radiation like that. Like I know this, I've been setting this like three 113 00:09:20.000 --> 00:09:24.480 and a half years. That's not possible to get tin can and tinfoidled through 114 00:09:24.519 --> 00:09:28.879 the Van Allen radiation belts, right, that doesn't make any sense, and 115 00:09:28.919 --> 00:09:31.639 so I just kind of started questioning stuff at that point in time too. 116 00:09:31.679 --> 00:09:39.039 I was like, how you know so? And then I had a cousin 117 00:09:39.440 --> 00:09:43.159 that came over to my house and he's like, you know, Michelle Obama 118 00:09:43.279 --> 00:09:48.639 is actually a dude and Sandy Hook was all a hoax, Like you are 119 00:09:48.879 --> 00:09:52.000 crazy, and he's like, no, I'm serious, look into this. 120 00:09:52.120 --> 00:09:54.799 So I just kind of started going down that rabbit Holy gosh, that was 121 00:09:54.879 --> 00:09:58.679 around twenty twelve. That was oh well, yes, Sandy Hook, what's 122 00:09:58.679 --> 00:10:03.559 twenty twelve, So yeah, yeah, that's yeah, sure, and yeah, 123 00:10:03.679 --> 00:10:05.399 so I started going down that rabbit hole and started watching a documentary and 124 00:10:05.399 --> 00:10:09.039 I was like, holy cow, he's right, it was all a hoax. 125 00:10:09.159 --> 00:10:13.039 So then you know, you start putting all this stuff together and you're 126 00:10:13.039 --> 00:10:15.440 like, Okay, if they can lie about that, what else are they 127 00:10:15.480 --> 00:10:24.679 gonna lie about? Right? Yeah? So but uh yeah, So it 128 00:10:24.799 --> 00:10:30.159 was that kind of started the whole like conspiracy theory. I think situation with 129 00:10:30.240 --> 00:10:33.279 me was the was the hint Sandy Hook. Once I realized that that was 130 00:10:35.159 --> 00:10:39.720 all made up and to promote gun control and everything else, then I was 131 00:10:39.759 --> 00:10:43.399 like, okay, you know, there's all kinds of stuff out there that 132 00:10:43.440 --> 00:10:48.679 we're being lied to about, for sure. Yeah, it's interesting. Everybody 133 00:10:48.679 --> 00:10:52.039 has their their different kind of first rabbit hole years was a big one. 134 00:10:52.600 --> 00:10:56.279 For me, it was nine to eleven, And that is a secondary type 135 00:10:56.279 --> 00:11:01.879 of reaction, is once you realized that now nine to eleven wasn't a hoax, 136 00:11:01.960 --> 00:11:05.039 but it was a lie, right, it was not how it was 137 00:11:05.080 --> 00:11:07.759 portrayed to the American public. And when you find that out, then that's 138 00:11:07.840 --> 00:11:11.039 the secondary reaction as well. Like you said, if they can lie about 139 00:11:11.080 --> 00:11:16.600 this, what else are they lying about? So you're more open to critical 140 00:11:16.679 --> 00:11:22.159 thinking and you're able to peel back that first layer of the other of the 141 00:11:22.200 --> 00:11:24.840 onion. And then for a lot of people, that's after a couple of 142 00:11:24.919 --> 00:11:28.879 rabbit holes and realizing this is a lie, this is a lie. I 143 00:11:28.919 --> 00:11:33.360 think people are will let their guard down just enough to peek and to flatter 144 00:11:33.399 --> 00:11:39.039 it. And honestly, it does it take that long to see some of 145 00:11:39.080 --> 00:11:43.519 the fallacies of heliocentrism. And within a couple of days for me, I 146 00:11:43.639 --> 00:11:46.879 knew that the ball was a lie. It just took me a couple of 147 00:11:46.919 --> 00:11:52.840 weeks to process. You know, almost fifty years of lies, because that 148 00:11:52.000 --> 00:11:58.919 is it's a lot to swallow, it is, and a lot of things 149 00:11:58.919 --> 00:12:03.039 just didn't make sense. I said. I took a trip to when I 150 00:12:03.039 --> 00:12:05.519 was seventeen. I took a trip to the Faroe Islands, which is this 151 00:12:05.600 --> 00:12:11.960 little country in the middle of the ocean between Iceland and Denmark. And we 152 00:12:11.960 --> 00:12:15.399 were flying at my friend and I were flying out of San Francisco, and 153 00:12:15.559 --> 00:12:20.679 this was back in ninety seven before we had online you know, airline bookings, 154 00:12:20.759 --> 00:12:24.879 right, so that the travel agency and she was showing us on the 155 00:12:24.919 --> 00:12:28.879 globe on her desk, like where how we would fly to Amsterdam? When 156 00:12:28.879 --> 00:12:31.679 I saw, well, that doesn't make any sense. Why don't we just 157 00:12:31.720 --> 00:12:35.120 go this way? You go straight across, right, And she's like, 158 00:12:35.639 --> 00:12:37.720 well, you just can't go that way. That's the way they do it, 159 00:12:37.759 --> 00:12:39.240 I said, but this way would be a lot shorter if we just 160 00:12:39.320 --> 00:12:43.320 flew this way. And well, I don't make the flights, I just 161 00:12:43.519 --> 00:12:46.480 I just book them. I'm like, yeah, okay, yeah, whatever, 162 00:12:46.519 --> 00:12:48.919 I don't think. You know, you just trust it because it's there 163 00:12:48.000 --> 00:12:50.679 and they say it, you know, that's right. But that always bothered 164 00:12:50.720 --> 00:12:54.120 me. I'm like, I just don't understand why wouldn't go the other way. 165 00:12:54.360 --> 00:12:56.360 It would have been half the time if we just would have went the 166 00:12:56.440 --> 00:13:01.279 other direction. But now we know we can't go the other traction. That's 167 00:13:01.399 --> 00:13:03.200 right. And I had the same thoughts every time we flew to the Middle 168 00:13:03.200 --> 00:13:07.039 East, because they had the little map that you could you know, they 169 00:13:07.039 --> 00:13:09.919 showed the plane where you were like, why are we flying up and around 170 00:13:09.960 --> 00:13:13.799 instead of going straight across? But like everything else, you just accept it, 171 00:13:13.919 --> 00:13:18.919 right, And just just like the travel agent, she's like, that's 172 00:13:20.000 --> 00:13:24.840 just the way they go. They don't even that really speaks to how deep 173 00:13:24.919 --> 00:13:26.879 the programming goes. It should be a just like a stop, yeah, 174 00:13:26.919 --> 00:13:31.799 why you know, why does it do that? And start asking questions instead. 175 00:13:31.080 --> 00:13:33.120 That's just the way we do it, like a robot, right, 176 00:13:35.240 --> 00:13:39.679 That's exactly right, just absolutely robot, just just brainwashed into thinking one way 177 00:13:39.720 --> 00:13:45.320 and and never asking questions. But I've always asked questions though. And I 178 00:13:45.039 --> 00:13:48.679 I remember, uh in the eighties when the AIDS thing was a big deal, 179 00:13:48.720 --> 00:13:52.679 and my my family and I were going to the public pool and you 180 00:13:52.720 --> 00:13:56.519 know, AIDS AIDS was all it was all over the news, right, 181 00:13:56.120 --> 00:14:01.679 and and so I asked my dad on the way to the public pool. 182 00:14:01.679 --> 00:14:05.159 I said, hey, Dad, if someone like peas or has you know, 183 00:14:05.200 --> 00:14:07.559 like a cut or something and bleeds in the pool, like, can 184 00:14:07.600 --> 00:14:11.360 we get AIDS while we're in there. Yeah. He's like, well no, 185 00:14:11.399 --> 00:14:15.279 because the chemicals in the pool, will you know, cancel out the 186 00:14:15.279 --> 00:14:16.000 AIDS and kill it. And I said, well, then why don't we 187 00:14:16.039 --> 00:14:20.000 just use those chemicals to kill AIDS in our body. We're already drinking the 188 00:14:20.000 --> 00:14:22.519 pool water. Anyway, He's like, I don't know. They was like 189 00:14:24.000 --> 00:14:28.360 that was another all these things. Yeah, I was just gonna say that 190 00:14:28.440 --> 00:14:31.759 was another huge SI up, just the way that they aimed the hate at 191 00:14:31.759 --> 00:14:35.759 the Muslim community after nine to eleven people. I was, you know, 192 00:14:35.840 --> 00:14:39.320 during the eighties, I was in my teen years, so I remember vividly, 193 00:14:39.960 --> 00:14:43.879 like myself walking into a public restroom and like, should I even sit 194 00:14:43.960 --> 00:14:48.120 on this toilet because I could get AIDS? And then when literally that's the 195 00:14:48.159 --> 00:14:52.679 propaganda they were pushing. And then when Princess Diana shook the hand of an 196 00:14:52.720 --> 00:14:56.440 AIDS patient, it was like it led the news that night, breaking news, 197 00:14:56.440 --> 00:15:00.919 Princess Diana shook the hand of an AIDS patient. Oh my gosh. 198 00:15:01.120 --> 00:15:03.960 And then of course that the evil of AZT then itself, it's is its 199 00:15:03.960 --> 00:15:09.919 own rabbit hole. Oh yeah, it's and and there's so much there's so 200 00:15:09.000 --> 00:15:13.279 much to go down and so much to discover. It's just it's just endless. 201 00:15:13.440 --> 00:15:20.360 I I started off watching The Fall of the Caball because of course I 202 00:15:20.440 --> 00:15:24.919 was really into the Q thing because I was looking for some sort of hope. 203 00:15:24.120 --> 00:15:28.080 I call it hopium now because that's all it is, but indeed, 204 00:15:28.200 --> 00:15:31.240 I was looking for some sort of hope to to be like, hey, 205 00:15:31.240 --> 00:15:35.399 everything's gonna be okay, our country isn't going to fall apart, and you 206 00:15:35.440 --> 00:15:39.879 know, so uh. Friends sent me a link to a video and it 207 00:15:39.000 --> 00:15:41.919 was, you know, the the QUE stuff, and that's how I got 208 00:15:41.960 --> 00:15:46.440 started into all that. So I watched my husband and I watched the full 209 00:15:46.639 --> 00:15:50.639 Fall of the Caball series, and it was very eye opening to the evil 210 00:15:52.480 --> 00:15:58.360 that's out there. I don't believe that the it would be great is the 211 00:15:58.399 --> 00:16:03.120 Q thing was was legit, but I don't feel like it is so I 212 00:16:03.159 --> 00:16:04.919 don't really I don't follow any of that anymore. But it did really open 213 00:16:04.960 --> 00:16:08.519 to my eyes to see that there is so much more out there, ye, 214 00:16:10.039 --> 00:16:11.919 so much more evil. We are. We are living in such a 215 00:16:12.080 --> 00:16:19.320 sick, evil world and people are just blindly walking through their life day by 216 00:16:19.440 --> 00:16:26.879 day without even realizing what's right in front of them, you know. Yeah, 217 00:16:26.919 --> 00:16:29.519 And I will always give credit to that because a lot of these things 218 00:16:29.519 --> 00:16:32.600 like Fall the Cabal, I think they I don't know if they actually came 219 00:16:32.639 --> 00:16:36.480 out at that time, but they were making the circulations like in the spring 220 00:16:36.519 --> 00:16:38.480 of twenty twenty. And for folks who hasn't seen Fall the Cabal, I'll 221 00:16:38.480 --> 00:16:41.360 put a note here. I'll put it in the in the show description, 222 00:16:41.559 --> 00:16:45.879 it's like, what is it like a twelve or thirteen part series with a 223 00:16:45.159 --> 00:16:49.440 It's like a woman from like Netherlands. She's got a accent. It's us. 224 00:16:49.480 --> 00:16:53.159 I think it was really well done. If anything, like you said, 225 00:16:53.159 --> 00:16:59.559 it did make people question the official narrative and it got them, you 226 00:16:59.559 --> 00:17:02.840 know, going down the rabbit holes. They're also another one, and if 227 00:17:02.879 --> 00:17:10.680 I can remember it, it was a Hollywood stuntman and he released a documentary 228 00:17:11.400 --> 00:17:15.079 and I'll have to I'll have to do a search, but he really exposes 229 00:17:15.160 --> 00:17:18.519 Hollywood. But the other thing he really did was he exposed the media how 230 00:17:18.559 --> 00:17:22.680 it's controlled. He was the guy that put together like all the local news 231 00:17:22.720 --> 00:17:26.559 from around the country, and they were saying the exact same they were repeating 232 00:17:26.599 --> 00:17:32.759 the sex the exact same script. So that really opened my eyes. Yeah, 233 00:17:32.880 --> 00:17:34.920 yeah, yeah, that's right. I've seen that before everything to think. 234 00:17:37.039 --> 00:17:41.519 Out of Shadows. Yeah, Brad Marton, out of Shadows, Sorry 235 00:17:41.519 --> 00:17:45.279 about that? Oh okay, yeah, no that yeah, that's good to 236 00:17:45.319 --> 00:17:48.880 know. I don't I remember seeing the clip. I don't think I've seen 237 00:17:48.920 --> 00:17:56.319 any more of that particular. Did you say it was a documentary? He 238 00:17:56.400 --> 00:17:59.240 produced it. He was an ex stuntman. He walked away because he kind 239 00:17:59.240 --> 00:18:02.039 of saw some of the evil. I don't remember which mean. I mean, 240 00:18:02.079 --> 00:18:04.160 this guy was a stuntman and like the Batman movie, the twenty twelve. 241 00:18:04.200 --> 00:18:07.519 He was in some big, big movies and he walked away and he 242 00:18:07.559 --> 00:18:10.880 did a documentaries. It's called Out of Shadows, and I'll find it and 243 00:18:10.920 --> 00:18:15.240 I'll put the link in there. And the two things I remember most was 244 00:18:15.319 --> 00:18:18.400 just, you know, really how bad Hollywood was, how evil it was, 245 00:18:18.480 --> 00:18:21.640 and then how controlled the news is. It's just a script. It's 246 00:18:21.680 --> 00:18:25.759 people showing upbrading a script and everyone just trust with the guy on the on. 247 00:18:25.799 --> 00:18:30.119 Then you know, in front of the camera says yeah, yeah, 248 00:18:29.680 --> 00:18:33.440 and they know it and they're they're keeping control. But thank goodness for things 249 00:18:33.480 --> 00:18:37.039 like you know, TikTok. I know that you you you said before that 250 00:18:37.079 --> 00:18:40.319 you haven't really been on TikTok that much. I don't know if you're on 251 00:18:40.359 --> 00:18:45.680 there now, But TikTok is what woke me up to the flat earth. 252 00:18:45.559 --> 00:18:51.880 And I I never I always thought TikTok was just a bunch of like, 253 00:18:52.400 --> 00:18:56.000 you know, kids doing the latest dance trend and eating tie pods. Like 254 00:18:56.079 --> 00:19:00.359 I didn't think it was anything more than that. And my husband and I 255 00:19:00.079 --> 00:19:06.680 and he's a contractor, and we remodeled homes and we also renovate travel trailers 256 00:19:06.720 --> 00:19:10.759 like RB's fifth wheels and stuff. And so I was telling my niece, 257 00:19:10.920 --> 00:19:12.000 he was a teenager at the time. I said, Hey, I want 258 00:19:12.000 --> 00:19:18.640 to put it some of my RV flipping videos on TikTok. I just don't 259 00:19:18.680 --> 00:19:19.680 know how to do it. I'll set you up with an account. It's 260 00:19:19.680 --> 00:19:23.240 a great way for people to see your your content. It's okay, great. 261 00:19:23.839 --> 00:19:26.599 So she set me up with an account, and I uploaded some you 262 00:19:26.640 --> 00:19:33.160 know, of our before nafter videos, and so I was kind of scrolling 263 00:19:33.200 --> 00:19:38.640 through it, and this one blonde haired kid who has a TikTok channel, 264 00:19:38.640 --> 00:19:42.000 he's a flat earth, and he kept popping up. He would say this 265 00:19:42.039 --> 00:19:44.599 is why the earth is splot and I'm like, oh, you got me, 266 00:19:44.680 --> 00:19:48.440 kating me. This is ridiculous. Swipe and then another, you know, 267 00:19:48.559 --> 00:19:52.599 like a remodeled video would pop up, and then this blonde hair kid 268 00:19:52.599 --> 00:19:56.480 would pop up again and he would be talking about flatters a little bit more. 269 00:19:56.480 --> 00:20:00.039 I'm like, this is absolutely ridiculous. Swipe right past you. I 270 00:20:00.039 --> 00:20:04.079 don't want to hear about it anymore. And but he kept popping up over 271 00:20:04.160 --> 00:20:07.559 and over and over again. I thought, okay, fine, my hands 272 00:20:07.559 --> 00:20:10.359 were full, I was painting something. I'm just gonna listen to it because 273 00:20:10.359 --> 00:20:14.119 I can't swipe because my hands were four. And I started listening to him 274 00:20:14.160 --> 00:20:19.119 talk about emergency landings and flight patterns, which obviously me flying to Amsterdam. 275 00:20:19.200 --> 00:20:22.759 That sparked my attention. I was like, hmm, yeah, that is 276 00:20:22.759 --> 00:20:26.480 weird patterns. You're weird. So I started listening to that a little bit. 277 00:20:27.319 --> 00:20:32.160 And then because I watched one of his videos, the algorithm kept bringing 278 00:20:32.200 --> 00:20:36.160 up more and more content like his, and I kept listening to more, 279 00:20:36.319 --> 00:20:40.039 and kept listening to more and it was more intriguing. And then he mentioned 280 00:20:40.039 --> 00:20:44.079 something about Genesis six. And I've been raised in a Christian home my entire 281 00:20:44.119 --> 00:20:48.519 life, and I never gave much thought to Genesis six. But I thought, 282 00:20:48.079 --> 00:20:51.880 well, this guy's talking about it, maybe I should look into it 283 00:20:51.920 --> 00:20:56.160 some more. So then I just like dove into Genesis six and I'm like, 284 00:20:56.200 --> 00:21:00.960 oh my gosh, the nephilo this and that, this is this is 285 00:21:00.000 --> 00:21:03.839 insane. I never knew any of this stuff growing up in a Christian hall. 286 00:21:03.880 --> 00:21:07.039 We never talked about it, you know. And so it was TikTok 287 00:21:07.079 --> 00:21:10.319 that wooked me up to the flat Earth. And it was this guy. 288 00:21:10.599 --> 00:21:15.279 I have this TikTok channel here if you if you want to look him up, 289 00:21:15.319 --> 00:21:22.519 you can tag it. He's absolutely fantastic. It's uh At Caleb dot 290 00:21:22.599 --> 00:21:30.119 Fe. It's k A l eb dot s e k e L. I'm 291 00:21:30.119 --> 00:21:37.000 sorry k l e B did you say dot fe dot fe? Yeah? 292 00:21:37.240 --> 00:21:41.039 Oh, I always got almost one hundred and fifty thousand followers. Yeah, 293 00:21:41.119 --> 00:21:44.680 the blonde hair kid with the blue eyes. His face is always right in 294 00:21:44.720 --> 00:21:48.920 front of the screen. He's hilarious. He's still good. So yeah, 295 00:21:49.079 --> 00:21:52.160 in the show notes as well, so everybody can check him out and make 296 00:21:52.200 --> 00:21:56.039 sure you guys say you heard him from Jessica. Yeah, yeah, he's 297 00:21:56.119 --> 00:22:00.839 he's It doesn't follow me, it'd be great to get but yeah, he's 298 00:22:00.880 --> 00:22:06.160 awesome. So definitely check out his little channel for sure. But anyway, 299 00:22:06.200 --> 00:22:12.119 so I started to really kind of geek out and in Genesis six and then, 300 00:22:12.680 --> 00:22:17.279 and I thought, well, if the Nephelim and all this stuff is 301 00:22:17.359 --> 00:22:19.480 real and we were I've been raising a Christian home, but we've never talked 302 00:22:19.519 --> 00:22:23.559 about it. What else are we not talking about that's true in the Bible. 303 00:22:23.680 --> 00:22:27.759 So then I started just reading these verses that people on these flat Earth 304 00:22:27.880 --> 00:22:33.279 videos were throwing out, and I was like my eyes started to open wider 305 00:22:33.319 --> 00:22:37.000 and wider, Like was the more I read just strictly out of the Bible, 306 00:22:37.640 --> 00:22:44.599 no scientific this or no scholar that. It was just all biblical reading. 307 00:22:44.640 --> 00:22:48.759 And I was like, Oh my gosh, this is this is amazing, 308 00:22:48.839 --> 00:22:53.319 And I could have believed that my mind started to turn to the flat 309 00:22:53.359 --> 00:22:56.880 Earth. I never thought that would. I had never even heard of it 310 00:22:56.920 --> 00:23:00.880 before, to be honest, until this. I saw this Caleb guy on 311 00:23:00.920 --> 00:23:06.000 TikTok, and I'm like people say the Earth is flat, no idea, 312 00:23:06.480 --> 00:23:10.200 I've never heard of them before, and like that is an insane concept. 313 00:23:10.599 --> 00:23:18.839 So I really secretly dove into it for about two weeks. I really dove 314 00:23:18.920 --> 00:23:22.480 into flat Earth secretly, like I hadn't talked to my husband about it and 315 00:23:22.680 --> 00:23:26.640 talked to my kids about it. I was just so intrigued by all of 316 00:23:26.640 --> 00:23:33.400 it. And I was coming home from dropping my kids off at school and 317 00:23:33.839 --> 00:23:38.160 I have to go down so I dropping so coming home from dropping my kids 318 00:23:38.160 --> 00:23:42.920 off at school. Sorry, there's this this big like hill plateau that I 319 00:23:42.960 --> 00:23:48.000 have to drive down. And the plateau looks over most of the city, 320 00:23:48.640 --> 00:23:55.200 and the sky was beautiful that morning, and and everything just looked huge. 321 00:23:55.319 --> 00:23:59.359 The sky looked huge, and I just looked on my windshield at the stoplight 322 00:23:59.359 --> 00:24:03.599 and I was like, if the Earth is flat. And I can't even 323 00:24:03.599 --> 00:24:07.359 believe I'm saying this, but if the Earth is flat, please Jesus tell 324 00:24:07.400 --> 00:24:11.880 me. I want to know the truth about your magnificent creation. I want 325 00:24:11.920 --> 00:24:18.119 to know. Please show me the truth because I really believe it's flat now 326 00:24:18.200 --> 00:24:21.880 and I need to hear it from you before I fully choked up for and 327 00:24:22.000 --> 00:24:25.960 he instantly gave me peace in my heart, and it was like he just 328 00:24:26.000 --> 00:24:30.200 said, yeah, this is this is it. You're in this beautiful enclosed 329 00:24:30.960 --> 00:24:37.200 dome called the fir Moment, and that's that's what it is. And I 330 00:24:37.279 --> 00:24:42.599 was just like, it was like this amazing close connection with God at that 331 00:24:42.720 --> 00:24:47.799 very moment. You know, opening up to the truth is beautiful creation. 332 00:24:48.720 --> 00:24:52.680 And we know That's why I started episode one with why the Lie? We 333 00:24:52.799 --> 00:24:59.119 know why it's so important because I get it seems like almost an email every 334 00:24:59.200 --> 00:25:03.599 day that kind of mentions at least that it has brought people back to God, 335 00:25:03.680 --> 00:25:07.440 closer to God, if not some people who had kind of walked away 336 00:25:07.440 --> 00:25:14.599 from God and brought them back. It's extremely important and it's very deceitful heliocentrism. 337 00:25:14.599 --> 00:25:17.880 And when you actually after you come out of the other side and you 338 00:25:17.960 --> 00:25:22.359 realize, you know, the biblical cosmology, geocentric world that we live in, 339 00:25:22.960 --> 00:25:27.960 you understand how silly, in my opinion, heliocentrism is like if we're 340 00:25:29.000 --> 00:25:32.839 hurtling through space, if you take a baseball and throw it, if there's 341 00:25:32.880 --> 00:25:34.559 a bug on that ball, he's going to feel the wind in its little 342 00:25:34.559 --> 00:25:41.079 face going for sixty miles an hour, let alone spinning and chase and everything 343 00:25:41.119 --> 00:25:45.599 else. And you know, when I go fishing just a half a mile 344 00:25:45.680 --> 00:25:49.839 down the road at the lake, it's not moving. Just none of it 345 00:25:49.880 --> 00:25:53.559 makes any sense. And you know, people, there's a lot of people 346 00:25:53.599 --> 00:25:57.000 out there that wants to They just want the scientific evidence, and there's plenty 347 00:25:57.039 --> 00:26:02.480 of that as well. You'd mentioned two great things, right. Sea level 348 00:26:02.519 --> 00:26:06.319 does not make sense on a ball, It doesn't make sense that earth. 349 00:26:07.359 --> 00:26:11.839 And for Christians, on the other hand, the Bible explains very clearly how 350 00:26:11.880 --> 00:26:17.559 he flooded the earth. It didn't just rain. He opened the windows of 351 00:26:17.640 --> 00:26:19.960 the heavens and the water came from above. That's how he created the earth. 352 00:26:21.000 --> 00:26:26.440 He separated the waters, and and that should say something. And again 353 00:26:26.680 --> 00:26:30.079 I don't I'm not a church basher whatsoever. I would. I'm still looking 354 00:26:30.079 --> 00:26:33.359 forward church because I think fellowship is important. But doesn't that say something to 355 00:26:33.359 --> 00:26:37.559 the effect that you spent a lot of time in church in your life and 356 00:26:37.680 --> 00:26:44.440 you basically from TikTok you you learned about Genesis, sex and flat Earth, 357 00:26:44.480 --> 00:26:48.279 which you know, really brings a new understanding to the Book of Genesis. 358 00:26:48.799 --> 00:26:55.240 Yeah, and you know, and it wasn't angry when I discovered flat Earth. 359 00:26:55.279 --> 00:26:57.440 I know a lot of people go through an angry phase. They're mad 360 00:26:57.440 --> 00:27:02.079 they've been lied to. And you know, Owen Benjamin montage of it is 361 00:27:02.119 --> 00:27:07.119 just awesome. It shows his rage and his anger as he's going through the 362 00:27:07.119 --> 00:27:11.640 the discovery phase of it. But I wasn't angry. I was excited because 363 00:27:11.920 --> 00:27:15.319 things finally made sense. That The part that did bother me though, is 364 00:27:15.519 --> 00:27:19.279 I felt like growing up in a Christian hall, I had so many questions 365 00:27:19.319 --> 00:27:23.279 to things and I always kind of got the same answer, Well, you 366 00:27:23.359 --> 00:27:26.680 know, you know, oh, because God can can do what you want. 367 00:27:26.680 --> 00:27:29.599 When it comes to you know, flooding the earth, well I don't 368 00:27:29.640 --> 00:27:32.279 understanding, like people the earth of glow. Well, God can do what 369 00:27:32.319 --> 00:27:36.160 he wants. Yeah, that's true, but still how does that work? 370 00:27:36.200 --> 00:27:40.640 And then I remember my mom telling me once when I was a kid, 371 00:27:40.720 --> 00:27:42.640 you know, if you want, if you want to tell people that you 372 00:27:42.680 --> 00:27:47.400 know God, God exists, you just tell him that if we were any 373 00:27:47.440 --> 00:27:51.240 closer to the Sun, if the Earth was off its access, just this 374 00:27:51.359 --> 00:27:53.279 tiny event, we were any closer to the Sun, we would all burn 375 00:27:53.359 --> 00:27:59.279 up. That in itself is proof that God created this, This wonderful universe, 376 00:28:00.119 --> 00:28:02.440 and you know, of course like oh yeah, okay, yeah, 377 00:28:02.480 --> 00:28:04.319 we just we disbelieve it, right and go with it. And it was 378 00:28:04.480 --> 00:28:10.240 that's that type of thing that bothers me because it's so not true. It's 379 00:28:11.319 --> 00:28:15.279 and I know it's being said with good intentions, but it's definitely not the 380 00:28:15.319 --> 00:28:19.880 truth, and it leads people further and further away from the truth because and 381 00:28:19.960 --> 00:28:23.920 they just want to accept what these you know, I just stay with air 382 00:28:25.000 --> 00:28:29.640 quotes smarter than you people are saying, and when it isn't the truth at 383 00:28:29.680 --> 00:28:34.279 all, I want to ask you this, how did the last because I 384 00:28:34.359 --> 00:28:37.799 try to ask this to all our listeners, how did the last three and 385 00:28:37.839 --> 00:28:40.319 a half years? How this country has been in the world the world? 386 00:28:40.400 --> 00:28:45.799 Really and you sound like you were awake well before twenty twenty. How did 387 00:28:45.839 --> 00:28:52.640 you and your family navigate through the cold the COVID debacle? Okay, well, 388 00:28:53.400 --> 00:29:00.640 I tell people this, especially with the whole mask thing, so people, 389 00:29:00.839 --> 00:29:03.720 you know you need you need to mask up. And we didn't do 390 00:29:03.759 --> 00:29:07.200 any of that, by the way, No, no vaccine's, no masking 391 00:29:07.279 --> 00:29:10.960 nothing. My family and I refused to do it. But I would always 392 00:29:10.960 --> 00:29:15.799 tell people. I would say I survived a kidnapping, I was hit by 393 00:29:15.799 --> 00:29:19.440 a drunk driver. I was brutally attacked by a dog who tore off half 394 00:29:19.480 --> 00:29:23.720 of my face. I had a reconstructive surgery for that. I fell off 395 00:29:23.720 --> 00:29:29.960 a debt and nearly was decapitated by a running trencher. I've had seven miscarriages 396 00:29:30.720 --> 00:29:34.839 and we lost everything there into their during their recession, and we were nearly 397 00:29:34.880 --> 00:29:38.640 homeless. I've had four blood clots to pulmonary embolisms. And you're gonna tell 398 00:29:38.759 --> 00:29:44.119 me that a mask is going to save my life from something that's got a 399 00:29:44.200 --> 00:29:48.119 ninety nine point whatever survival rate. I don't think so. I'm tougher than 400 00:29:48.200 --> 00:29:52.279 nails. There's no no way that that little paper whatever is going to save 401 00:29:52.359 --> 00:29:56.960 me after everything I've been through in my life already. You know, just 402 00:29:57.119 --> 00:30:04.759 was absolutely ridiculous. But yeah, we didn't do any of it. We 403 00:30:04.759 --> 00:30:11.920 we It's almost like there's something inside you that tells you, you know, 404 00:30:11.000 --> 00:30:15.960 you're you're smarter than that, and and not to fall for it. And 405 00:30:15.079 --> 00:30:22.559 I have a blood plotting disorder, so I'm on coumadin and I would just 406 00:30:22.680 --> 00:30:25.920 flash my medical ide bracelet wherever I went and said, oh sorry, and 407 00:30:26.000 --> 00:30:29.400 medically exempt, and then nobody could say anything to me about it because they 408 00:30:29.440 --> 00:30:40.119 can't, you know, but definitely opened our eyes to how how blind people 409 00:30:40.160 --> 00:30:44.400 are too, and just how sheepish they just go along with with everything. 410 00:30:45.799 --> 00:30:51.000 I mean, masks in your car by yourself, I mean, what what 411 00:30:51.160 --> 00:30:56.200 is that about? You know, they're just petrified of nothing. They're petrified 412 00:30:56.240 --> 00:31:03.119 of nothing because someone's telling them to be petrified of it exactly. And first 413 00:31:03.160 --> 00:31:07.279 of all, in the dictionary, under the word resilient should be your face. 414 00:31:07.319 --> 00:31:12.240 That's uh u. Quite an incredible journey that you've had. And it's 415 00:31:12.240 --> 00:31:17.519 funny you mentioned people who wear their masks in their car. I saw a 416 00:31:17.599 --> 00:31:21.759 maime two days ago that said for all the people who were who wore masks 417 00:31:21.799 --> 00:31:26.440 in their car by themselves introducing the new outdoor seat belt and this short of 418 00:31:26.440 --> 00:31:30.440 guy where just thinking a belt walking around town. Yeah, I saw that 419 00:31:30.519 --> 00:31:33.480 too. That. I'm so glorious. I just love it. It's so 420 00:31:33.559 --> 00:31:37.680 great. Yeah, it's it's really good. But did you like if go 421 00:31:37.720 --> 00:31:40.440 ahead, go ahead? No, no, go ahead, I'm sorry. 422 00:31:40.599 --> 00:31:42.799 I was just going to say that, did you ever think you would see 423 00:31:42.839 --> 00:31:45.799 anything like that in your lifetime? What we've gone through the last few years, 424 00:31:45.799 --> 00:31:51.000 how everything's just turned upside down. No, no, absolutely not, 425 00:31:51.279 --> 00:31:53.480 no, I nobody did. I mean I really, I mean all of 426 00:31:53.480 --> 00:31:56.920 this conspiracy theorists. We know that there's something out there, but I don't 427 00:31:56.960 --> 00:32:02.240 think any of us really knew that. We see the amount of people folly 428 00:32:02.400 --> 00:32:07.559 for it was the big thing. I mean, we all know the government's 429 00:32:07.599 --> 00:32:10.640 up to get us. We all know that the the elites, they have 430 00:32:10.680 --> 00:32:15.000 an agenda, right, But I never thought i'd see so many people just 431 00:32:15.160 --> 00:32:23.599 blindly follow what these you know, higher ups have to say about controlling their 432 00:32:23.599 --> 00:32:31.359 lives. The absolute hardest part for me as a mom was watching my kids 433 00:32:31.359 --> 00:32:38.200 suffer was schooling. My daughter has two forms of dyslepsia. She's got a 434 00:32:38.240 --> 00:32:45.480 pretty good sized learning disability, and when they closed down the schools here in 435 00:32:46.039 --> 00:32:52.920 in Boise, they didn't reopen them for nearly two years. I think it 436 00:32:52.039 --> 00:32:59.920 was for the most part, and watching my daughter sufferer academically was absolutely hard 437 00:33:00.079 --> 00:33:04.119 breaking, and she all of the kids with learning disabilities fell left behind. 438 00:33:05.200 --> 00:33:12.359 And I went on local talk show radio talk shows begging for the governor to 439 00:33:13.000 --> 00:33:15.640 reach out to me to figure out what we could do. To help these 440 00:33:15.759 --> 00:33:21.920 kids with learning disabilities. I emailed his office and called him twenty two times, 441 00:33:22.039 --> 00:33:25.240 and never once did I get a response, not just a courtesy email 442 00:33:25.319 --> 00:33:29.839 back, not a courtesy phone called back, not even from his office. 443 00:33:30.559 --> 00:33:36.000 And that was the hardest part for me, because it was like I could 444 00:33:36.000 --> 00:33:38.640 see my daughter, she's just crying, and I'm stupid. I don't know 445 00:33:38.680 --> 00:33:40.640 any of this stuff. And you know, here, let's put you in 446 00:33:40.640 --> 00:33:45.359 front of a screen with two forms of dyslexia and have you learn it doesn't 447 00:33:45.359 --> 00:33:50.799 work that way. It's just that was that was the worst part. I 448 00:33:50.839 --> 00:33:54.359 mean that the masking and the not being able to go here or there. 449 00:33:54.480 --> 00:34:00.640 That didn't bother us because you know, I'm just like a I'm I'm too 450 00:34:00.680 --> 00:34:02.480 tough just to caved any of that. So I just didn't fall for any 451 00:34:02.480 --> 00:34:07.360 of that stuff. But it was being not having any control of my kid's 452 00:34:07.400 --> 00:34:10.880 situation, if that makes sense as a parent, that's really difficult, and 453 00:34:10.880 --> 00:34:14.840 that's how it felt for all those years. It makes a lot of sense, 454 00:34:15.000 --> 00:34:19.400 and those poor children, especially the class of twenty twenty, I'll always 455 00:34:19.440 --> 00:34:22.559 keep them in my hearts. They had, uh, you know, everything 456 00:34:22.559 --> 00:34:24.480 they worked for to be able to walk across the stage and to have their 457 00:34:24.559 --> 00:34:29.559 their prom all that stuff taken away from him is just next level evil. 458 00:34:29.599 --> 00:34:32.480 And that's really what pushed me into homeschooling. I saw what they were doing. 459 00:34:34.480 --> 00:34:37.559 You know, maybe I was not doing the right thing and being as 460 00:34:37.639 --> 00:34:42.320 involved in my children's academia. Just trusting, and that's a big thing. 461 00:34:42.360 --> 00:34:45.440 There's a certain individual in the truth community who's kind of a big name, 462 00:34:46.199 --> 00:34:52.159 who is like totally against home schooling. He thinks, and this guy has 463 00:34:52.199 --> 00:34:55.159 many, many doctorates and usually you know, I've got a couple of his 464 00:34:55.239 --> 00:34:59.440 books, but he thinks that, you know, just the regular show is 465 00:34:59.480 --> 00:35:02.079 not small hard enough to teach his uh, you know, to teach his 466 00:35:02.280 --> 00:35:07.800 child. Which is funny to me because I was watching what they're teaching children 467 00:35:07.840 --> 00:35:10.360 today. It's going back to TikTok. How many videos with the lives of 468 00:35:10.360 --> 00:35:14.840 TikTok do you see? Just the craziness of what they're teaching our children in 469 00:35:14.840 --> 00:35:17.280 school today. Oh, it's unbelievable. I know. I have I have 470 00:35:17.480 --> 00:35:22.079 a friend, one of my only I have two flat Earth friends, and 471 00:35:22.159 --> 00:35:24.760 one of them has a son who's a I think he's a senior this year, 472 00:35:24.800 --> 00:35:30.800 and she homeschools him and she said she's unschooling him at home. You 473 00:35:30.880 --> 00:35:34.280 really have, And yeah, I love the way that she said that she's 474 00:35:34.360 --> 00:35:40.599 unschooling him because she's teaching him about biblical cosmology and all of the truth, 475 00:35:40.800 --> 00:35:45.239 you know, And it's it's awesome that she can do that. I don't 476 00:35:45.360 --> 00:35:52.480 have the I don't know even know how to put it, the academic capabilities 477 00:35:52.840 --> 00:35:55.639 to homeschool like kids. And I'm beyond thankful that they go to a wonderful 478 00:35:55.760 --> 00:36:00.840 Christian school. Now. Getting them into Christian school was a huge mirror cle 479 00:36:00.920 --> 00:36:04.280 of in itself, and God had to have everything aligned perfectly to make that 480 00:36:04.360 --> 00:36:07.440 happen. But they they do go to a really great Christian school. And 481 00:36:07.440 --> 00:36:12.599 that's another point I wanted to make too. Georgia's that even even our kids 482 00:36:12.639 --> 00:36:17.280 being in a Christian school and us knowing the truth, it still is hard 483 00:36:17.880 --> 00:36:22.760 because I know, not everything they're bringing home now to learn is that the 484 00:36:22.800 --> 00:36:27.480 truth. Does that make sense? Yeah, one hundred percent, even with 485 00:36:27.679 --> 00:36:31.079 our curriculum, you know, it's uh, they talk about NASA and the 486 00:36:31.159 --> 00:36:36.559 history, they talk about July twentieth, nineteen sixty nine, and all those 487 00:36:36.599 --> 00:36:40.039 things. It's it is it can be. Like I said, we allow 488 00:36:40.119 --> 00:36:45.000 her to read that stuff. It's important for us to you know, for 489 00:36:45.039 --> 00:36:49.880 her to know what they teach and then we teach or what we think. 490 00:36:50.800 --> 00:36:54.480 So it's, uh, I completely understand where you're coming from. When the 491 00:36:54.599 --> 00:36:59.719 reports come home and maybe there's a globe where it talks about gravity and you 492 00:36:59.800 --> 00:37:02.039 just kind of laugh and raise your eyebrow. That's about it, right, 493 00:37:02.239 --> 00:37:06.159 And that's I guess that should I have a bunch of questions here, Let's 494 00:37:06.159 --> 00:37:09.559 go back to Yeah, uh, you know you're awake to flatter. You 495 00:37:09.599 --> 00:37:12.079 know, for me, that was angry, but at the end of the 496 00:37:12.159 --> 00:37:19.079 day, it was exciting. But I did realize pretty quickly that not everybody 497 00:37:19.079 --> 00:37:23.719 else is you know, excited to receive because I was a gift. So 498 00:37:23.800 --> 00:37:28.360 what was that for you? And how did you share that with your family? 499 00:37:30.480 --> 00:37:32.760 Okay, so I love this story about how my husband and when he 500 00:37:32.760 --> 00:37:37.760 hears this, he's gonna laugh. So So, like I said, I 501 00:37:37.800 --> 00:37:43.760 had I dove into flatter for about two weeks and I had that wonderful encounter 502 00:37:43.840 --> 00:37:47.480 with God that morning and was really awake to it. So that night, 503 00:37:50.000 --> 00:37:53.400 during the day, I prepared some videos I saved on my phone from TikTok 504 00:37:53.440 --> 00:37:55.519 and I'm like, oh yeah, I gotta share these with my husband's night 505 00:37:55.519 --> 00:37:59.599 just to see what he says. So I couldn't put the kids to bed. 506 00:37:59.639 --> 00:38:00.840 You know, we're we're lying in bed just talking about the day and 507 00:38:01.159 --> 00:38:04.400 get ready to go to sleep. And I said, you know what's really 508 00:38:04.440 --> 00:38:09.000 weird our emergency flight landings. Those don't make any sense. He's like, 509 00:38:09.039 --> 00:38:10.519 well, what do you mean? And I said, well, let me 510 00:38:10.519 --> 00:38:14.760 show you this video and tell me if this makes sense. So, you 511 00:38:14.800 --> 00:38:19.639 know, TikTok's great because they're like three minute long videos and and so he 512 00:38:19.719 --> 00:38:22.159 watched it and he goes, yeah, that doesn't make sense. And I 513 00:38:22.239 --> 00:38:24.480 said, you know, el this doesn't make sense is flight patterns and every 514 00:38:24.480 --> 00:38:28.079 when I flew to Amsterdam, that doesn't make sense either. Did you know 515 00:38:28.119 --> 00:38:30.679 there's people up there that believe the Earth is flat? He goes, well, 516 00:38:30.719 --> 00:38:35.199 I've heard of flat Earth before, but my buddy made a skateboard video 517 00:38:35.280 --> 00:38:37.199 called flat Earth. But I just thought it was like, you know, 518 00:38:37.639 --> 00:38:43.079 a skateboarding terms of my husband's a skateboarder. A skateboarding term. We're able 519 00:38:43.119 --> 00:38:45.079 to like skate all over the place because it's got to be you know, 520 00:38:45.199 --> 00:38:49.039 flat pretty much. That's what we thought it. Yeah, there's people that 521 00:38:49.280 --> 00:38:51.719 they are at this flat. I think this is kind of good proof that 522 00:38:51.760 --> 00:38:54.719 maybe they're onto something. The He's like, oh, that is interesting. 523 00:38:57.000 --> 00:39:00.000 And so we tried to fall asleep that night, and he couldn't sleep. 524 00:39:00.559 --> 00:39:04.760 He got up, he got out of bed, he got on his phone 525 00:39:04.800 --> 00:39:08.159 and sat in the living room all night long and watched Flat Earth's videos. 526 00:39:08.159 --> 00:39:13.960 Well, I snoozed peacefully fine in bed, knowing the truth and knowing that 527 00:39:14.039 --> 00:39:19.320 he was about to go on this incredible journey that night to discovery the truth. 528 00:39:19.559 --> 00:39:22.039 And he was one percent on board. He completely agreed it was It 529 00:39:22.119 --> 00:39:25.800 was amazing. It took him no time at all. You know. Yeah, 530 00:39:27.920 --> 00:39:31.559 the battle is just getting people to watch a five minute video. If 531 00:39:31.559 --> 00:39:35.320 you can get someone to sit down and watch one or two videos and then 532 00:39:35.400 --> 00:39:39.719 just kind of throw you did it perfectly. You That's what people have to 533 00:39:39.760 --> 00:39:44.360 do. Just leave little nuggets. Isn't that It isn't that weird? Right? 534 00:39:44.360 --> 00:39:46.679 And just yeah, I guess it is. And your your your husband 535 00:39:46.719 --> 00:39:51.280 couldn't even sleep, he had to look and and the next morning you had 536 00:39:51.280 --> 00:39:53.360 breakfast and a new Flat Earth or in the family. Oh yeah, it 537 00:39:53.400 --> 00:39:55.199 was, it was. It was amazing. It was so great. I 538 00:39:55.920 --> 00:39:59.119 love. I mean, we've had we've been married for so long, we've 539 00:39:59.119 --> 00:40:01.800 had all these wonderful, all you know, moments and things that are married, 540 00:40:01.880 --> 00:40:07.840 but that will always stand out because I was so happy lying there in 541 00:40:07.920 --> 00:40:10.719 bed knowing that he was in the living room about to embark on this incredible 542 00:40:10.800 --> 00:40:19.760 journey. And by morning he was super tired but super excited to find out 543 00:40:19.800 --> 00:40:22.280 more. And and he's the one that discovered your podcast, by the way, 544 00:40:22.320 --> 00:40:27.920 So I'm so thankful for that. But I I don't want to have 545 00:40:28.000 --> 00:40:30.920 my dad passed away twenty twenty from he finally his body finally gave in from 546 00:40:30.960 --> 00:40:37.760 all the radiation that he took during his time and working nuclear power. So 547 00:40:37.239 --> 00:40:43.159 it's just my mom and she came over for gosh, she was over for 548 00:40:43.239 --> 00:40:46.639 dinner. I can't remember if it was Thanksgiving or something, but I had 549 00:40:46.719 --> 00:40:50.199 I'd saw that I'd been dying to talk to her about flat Earth. And 550 00:40:50.719 --> 00:40:54.960 she's not a conspiracy theorist at all, and she's just wonderful, kind hearted 551 00:40:55.039 --> 00:40:59.880 Christian woman. But I'm like, I've got at least put something out there 552 00:41:00.480 --> 00:41:05.760 just to spark her interest. And there was that old show Bonanza, and 553 00:41:05.880 --> 00:41:10.480 I'm sure we're all old enough to remember that show. And there was a 554 00:41:12.079 --> 00:41:19.800 seed that I had seen on TikTok and there was a young uh school teacher 555 00:41:19.880 --> 00:41:29.239 who was teaching the kids about gravity and the globe model. And the preacher's 556 00:41:29.280 --> 00:41:32.800 wife had heard her teaching that to the kids, and she ran over and 557 00:41:32.880 --> 00:41:36.519 got the preacher and and she's like, you've got to come listen to this. 558 00:41:36.519 --> 00:41:37.440 This is sol Cordan. You've got to come over here right now and 559 00:41:37.559 --> 00:41:42.800 listen. So the preacher goes running over and he can hear the teacher teaching 560 00:41:42.840 --> 00:41:46.239 the kids about you know, you know, the theory of gravity and the 561 00:41:46.280 --> 00:41:51.440 globe model and this and that, and he bucks in and he says he 562 00:41:51.519 --> 00:41:54.559 got really angry with her, and he said it will be taught now, 563 00:41:54.639 --> 00:41:58.199 don't this is this isn't like word for word, it's just the idea of 564 00:41:58.199 --> 00:42:00.840 it. You know, you're not going to be teaching you will not be 565 00:42:00.880 --> 00:42:04.280 teaching the globe model. The Earth is flat. The Bible says it's flat, 566 00:42:04.599 --> 00:42:09.800 and it's biblical. You'll be teaching it biblical, not science or something 567 00:42:09.800 --> 00:42:13.639 of that nature. And I showed that to my mom and I said, 568 00:42:13.719 --> 00:42:19.280 isn't it crazy that that the earth was the flat earth was taught back in 569 00:42:19.360 --> 00:42:22.440 school a long time ago, And and she's like, oh, yeah, 570 00:42:22.519 --> 00:42:27.360 that's pretty interesting, and then never really gave it too much of a thought 571 00:42:27.360 --> 00:42:32.400 after that. Right, So fast forward like two to years later, my 572 00:42:32.440 --> 00:42:38.440 mom and I were buying a pop up tent canopied from this wonderful couple and 573 00:42:38.519 --> 00:42:44.920 we drove out there together and they have this beautiful house that overlooks this beautiful 574 00:42:44.920 --> 00:42:47.920 bluff here in Idaho. And my mom said to the husband, he's this 575 00:42:49.039 --> 00:42:52.199 wonderful man from Haiti, and she says, Oh, I would just sit 576 00:42:52.239 --> 00:42:55.360 out there and read my Bible and just praise God for that beautiful view if 577 00:42:55.400 --> 00:43:00.800 I lived here. And this guy, George, he was so awesome. 578 00:43:00.840 --> 00:43:02.239 He took that and he ran with it, and he said, do you 579 00:43:02.320 --> 00:43:07.559 realize that not that It's almost like he just jumped into flat Earth. It's 580 00:43:07.599 --> 00:43:09.960 like he just looked at my mom and within seconds was like, the Bible 581 00:43:10.000 --> 00:43:13.320 says the Earth is flat? Do you know that you're being lied to about 582 00:43:13.320 --> 00:43:16.800 everything? And it sparked this incredible conversation and we stood out there for an 583 00:43:16.880 --> 00:43:23.480 hour, and this wonderful man from Haiti and his wife just schooled my mom 584 00:43:23.679 --> 00:43:30.800 on flat Earth and the Nephelim and the cabal and the education system, everything 585 00:43:30.840 --> 00:43:35.280 that you and I know. This guy stumped up within a one hour conversation 586 00:43:35.320 --> 00:43:37.280 of standing in his driveway and my mom just stood there with her mouth elpen 587 00:43:37.400 --> 00:43:43.880 like wow here. It was amazing. It was so amazing. And I 588 00:43:43.960 --> 00:43:46.320 kept giving them hogs and they kept hype finding them and shaking their hands, 589 00:43:46.360 --> 00:43:52.280 and it was just this it was like this surreal, you know, divine 590 00:43:52.360 --> 00:43:59.159 intervention moment, and that is what kind of sparked the conversation more between my 591 00:43:59.199 --> 00:44:02.440 mother and I when it comes to flat Earth. It was it was incredible 592 00:44:02.920 --> 00:44:07.599 that meeting those people, that was amazing. That's awesome. And I think 593 00:44:08.199 --> 00:44:13.639 I have that clip it's flat Earth Truth and Bonanza, and I think the 594 00:44:13.679 --> 00:44:16.719 episode was Devil on Her Shoulder and it's it's about a two minute clip. 595 00:44:16.760 --> 00:44:21.280 If if it's If that's the clip, I'll add it to the end of 596 00:44:21.280 --> 00:44:22.559 the interview so people can listen to it, and then I'll put it in 597 00:44:22.559 --> 00:44:29.480 the show description as well. It's amazing that sometimes it's not you know, 598 00:44:29.719 --> 00:44:32.440 they tell us, yeah, it's in our face. Sometimes we just have 599 00:44:32.519 --> 00:44:36.920 to be willing to accept it. Den won always come out truthfully, but 600 00:44:36.960 --> 00:44:40.480 they use different means to say, hey, we told you and it is 601 00:44:42.079 --> 00:44:45.639 that the greatest lie. And I guess that should bring me to now. 602 00:44:45.679 --> 00:44:51.119 Prior to that, did you ever come across the moon landing rabbit hole? 603 00:44:51.239 --> 00:44:54.239 Was that something you looked into? Well, wait and rest. When I 604 00:44:54.320 --> 00:45:00.440 first met he, he said, yeah, you know the moonland it's fake. 605 00:45:00.480 --> 00:45:02.000 And I said, okay, whatever. I really could care less if 606 00:45:02.039 --> 00:45:06.000 it was real or fake. Sorry, the truth, I'm like, I 607 00:45:06.039 --> 00:45:08.440 don't know. Like I always would hear my grandparents say they can put a 608 00:45:08.480 --> 00:45:12.039 man on the moon, but they can't make tooth bass, that you can 609 00:45:12.119 --> 00:45:15.920 drink orange juice after whatever. You know, they would always use they can 610 00:45:15.960 --> 00:45:19.840 put a man on the moon saying. And so I never really gave it 611 00:45:19.840 --> 00:45:24.039 too much thought, but it always kind of stuck there a little bit in 612 00:45:24.079 --> 00:45:34.559 my head. And then and then as I dove more into nuclear radiation and 613 00:45:34.599 --> 00:45:37.440 I started doing a little bit more research on that. That's when I spoke 614 00:45:37.480 --> 00:45:40.719 to my husband about it in twenty fifteen. I was like, there's no 615 00:45:40.800 --> 00:45:45.280 way that were if if there's like these radiation belts that they say that they 616 00:45:45.320 --> 00:45:49.719 know if there's no way we're getting THROUGHO, there's no way. And none 617 00:45:49.719 --> 00:45:54.159 of these astronauts have any sort of like long term effects from being exposed to 618 00:45:54.480 --> 00:46:00.440 radiation. That's not possible, Like I'm studying this right now, is not 619 00:46:00.519 --> 00:46:05.320 possible. And so then after that, I was, you know, we 620 00:46:05.440 --> 00:46:10.920 watched this Stanley Kubrick video on him, you know, and making him making 621 00:46:10.960 --> 00:46:13.920 the moon landing videos and stuff, and then I was like, oh, 622 00:46:14.000 --> 00:46:16.400 yeah, no, totally sack, like not even not even a question. 623 00:46:16.480 --> 00:46:20.920 It never happened. Have you ever seen the shining and all the nods to 624 00:46:20.960 --> 00:46:23.000 the moon landing, like with the tang in the closet and the rockets on 625 00:46:23.119 --> 00:46:27.719 the on the sweater and everything else in that movie. Well, I've never 626 00:46:27.760 --> 00:46:30.719 watched the movie, but I did. I did see that it was some 627 00:46:30.760 --> 00:46:36.480 sort of documentary video where they put a montage together of all that, and 628 00:46:37.519 --> 00:46:39.880 you know that obviously there's the Eyes Wide Shut movie that he made. Oh 629 00:46:39.960 --> 00:46:45.519 yeah, I do not recommend people watching that movie if you have Jesus in 630 00:46:45.559 --> 00:46:52.639 your heart, because it's very horrible. But let's just say it's definitely really 631 00:46:52.880 --> 00:46:58.159 what happens with the dark disgusting side of this world? Yeah, that it 632 00:46:58.360 --> 00:47:01.880 was legitimately about a part the Rothschild's had in nineteen seventy two in England, 633 00:47:01.920 --> 00:47:07.360 and that movie got up killed. He presented it in a hotel uh like 634 00:47:07.639 --> 00:47:12.800 conference room to Warner Brother executives and they told him to cut out thirty minutes 635 00:47:12.840 --> 00:47:15.960 of it because it exposed too much of the truth. He said, no, 636 00:47:15.079 --> 00:47:20.079 big argument, and he was dead the next morning. Yeah, that's 637 00:47:20.320 --> 00:47:22.440 that's incredible. Yep. And if you look, his biggest movie was two 638 00:47:22.480 --> 00:47:25.519 thousand and one of Space Oddity. Right, if you came from the day 639 00:47:25.519 --> 00:47:30.400 he died to January first, two thousand and one is six hundred and sixty 640 00:47:30.400 --> 00:47:32.840 six days. I know, it's just another piece of useless information. I'm 641 00:47:32.840 --> 00:47:36.760 full of stuff like that. Yeah, yeah, but it's I mean, 642 00:47:36.960 --> 00:47:40.480 honestly, it's not useless because it all ties into each other, right, 643 00:47:40.519 --> 00:47:45.920 I mean, yeah, it's it's all the numbers. I and you, 644 00:47:45.000 --> 00:47:47.280 I know, you know all the numbers by heart. But it's like, 645 00:47:47.320 --> 00:47:52.719 you know, the Earth's you know, supposedly spinning that you know what dynomic 646 00:47:52.800 --> 00:47:58.519 number of speed right or or masonic number for this Masonic number for that they're 647 00:47:58.559 --> 00:48:02.880 all tided the other, ye know. And ninety three is of mackery in 648 00:48:04.000 --> 00:48:07.679 itself, and the Sun versus God's son is all mockery. That's why they 649 00:48:07.719 --> 00:48:10.920 say the sun is the center of the universe. They mocked Jesus, who 650 00:48:10.960 --> 00:48:15.719 was the center of our universe. Is as followers of Christ right, and 651 00:48:15.880 --> 00:48:19.760 absolutely, absolutely that's true. And it's funny because the sun it reminds me 652 00:48:19.800 --> 00:48:22.519 of this. I was outside talking to my neighbors. This is after I 653 00:48:22.599 --> 00:48:25.360 discovered flat Earth, and it was last summer, I think it was, 654 00:48:25.440 --> 00:48:30.280 and I was standing outside talking to my neighbor across the street. The sun 655 00:48:30.360 --> 00:48:34.159 was just beaten down on us, and I'm like, sare, let's move 656 00:48:34.159 --> 00:48:36.840 over to the shades. So we moved over into the shade of his tree. 657 00:48:37.440 --> 00:48:38.519 And I was like, you know, what's weird. Not to change 658 00:48:38.519 --> 00:48:43.360 the subject on you, but you know what's weird. If the sun is 659 00:48:43.519 --> 00:48:46.239 all the way out, like super far away in space and we just moved 660 00:48:46.280 --> 00:48:50.719 under this tree and it cooled us down by like ten to fifteen degrees, 661 00:48:51.519 --> 00:48:54.920 How is that possible if the Sun's not local? Indeed? And he says, 662 00:48:55.280 --> 00:48:59.400 oh, I don't know, radiation. Oh, it always comes back 663 00:48:59.400 --> 00:49:02.480 to radiation with you people in radiation UV rays that you get that a lot. 664 00:49:02.519 --> 00:49:05.960 And I'm telling you, if someone who's lived all around the country, 665 00:49:06.280 --> 00:49:09.599 uh, like, if someone who was in Delaware today woke up and driving 666 00:49:09.639 --> 00:49:13.519 the sun's a little bright, you gotta put down your visor and then you 667 00:49:13.559 --> 00:49:16.760 go to like Colorado Springs or Denver and deal with the sun there in the 668 00:49:16.800 --> 00:49:22.880 mornings. It's you can't really explain it unless you've been at a at a 669 00:49:22.159 --> 00:49:25.519 you know, sea level of five or six thousand sea level by the way, 670 00:49:25.639 --> 00:49:30.199 right right, or above sea level excuse me, like you know, 671 00:49:30.239 --> 00:49:34.320 four or five thousand feet above sea level, and it's just again, if 672 00:49:34.320 --> 00:49:37.719 it was ninety three million miles away, the brightness of the sun shouldn't mean 673 00:49:37.760 --> 00:49:42.360 that it's just off the chart. Anybody who's driven up what is it twenty 674 00:49:42.360 --> 00:49:47.960 five north south or if you live in Colorado Springs like Academy or Powers Boulevard, 675 00:49:49.199 --> 00:49:52.320 the sun is just so bright. It's in some mornings it's it's almost 676 00:49:52.360 --> 00:49:55.960 impossible to drive. It so bright. It's just yeah, And that shouldn't 677 00:49:55.960 --> 00:50:01.280 be the case if it's that far away exactly, and there's so many things 678 00:50:01.320 --> 00:50:07.559 with the sun. I was driving my son to preschool one morning back in 679 00:50:07.599 --> 00:50:09.760 twenty twelve, and it was it was late in winter, so there wasn't 680 00:50:09.760 --> 00:50:12.679 a lot of snow on the ground. There was just a little bit of 681 00:50:12.719 --> 00:50:19.760 snow. But the sun was silver. It was like silver white, and 682 00:50:19.800 --> 00:50:22.079 I'd never noticed that before, and I was like, this is weird. 683 00:50:22.159 --> 00:50:24.559 I can't even see I have sunglasses on. I am blinded. That sun 684 00:50:24.679 --> 00:50:29.960 is not normal. This is so weird. So I dropped him off. 685 00:50:30.000 --> 00:50:31.760 I walked into the building and they said to one of their bobs, I 686 00:50:31.760 --> 00:50:37.199 said, did anybody notice that the sun is silver this morning? It's so 687 00:50:37.239 --> 00:50:39.679 weird. It's silver, And they're like, no, it's just the sun. 688 00:50:39.719 --> 00:50:44.519 It's there every morning. No, but it's silver. It's really weird. 689 00:50:45.480 --> 00:50:50.199 And like, am I going crazy? This is so bizarre. And 690 00:50:50.239 --> 00:50:52.440 then you know, fast forward quite a few years. I want TikTok, 691 00:50:52.480 --> 00:50:57.280 And then I saw somebody post a video and say, did anybody noticed around 692 00:50:57.280 --> 00:51:00.360 the certain time frame that the sun went from yellow to silver? I'm like, 693 00:51:00.480 --> 00:51:04.440 yes, me, I did I realize that back then? Because you 694 00:51:04.480 --> 00:51:07.119 know, I don't think what they're spraying in the air or what they're doing 695 00:51:07.920 --> 00:51:10.239 but they're doing something to the sun. And I noticed it back in twenty 696 00:51:10.440 --> 00:51:15.280 twelve, you know, and there's obviously somebody else did too, so it's 697 00:51:15.320 --> 00:51:20.679 not just me. Yeah. And yesterday the United Nations, one of the 698 00:51:20.760 --> 00:51:27.000 head cheeses there said that we have opened the gates of hell to the climate 699 00:51:27.039 --> 00:51:29.159 event. And I thought, Man, I don't know if this guy is 700 00:51:29.159 --> 00:51:31.320 like you know how they always tell us something's coming or what's going on. 701 00:51:31.440 --> 00:51:37.760 But even the guy for Zelenski from Ukraine, he's over here begging for money. 702 00:51:37.760 --> 00:51:40.039 He goes into this thing about the climate and everything else. I'm like, 703 00:51:42.400 --> 00:51:46.880 it's just one thing after another. I wanted to oh, I know 704 00:51:46.920 --> 00:51:51.400 what I wanted to ask you. Yeah, so most people, like even 705 00:51:51.400 --> 00:51:54.920 me growing up, thought Idaho was just a paradise for patriots. Let's just 706 00:51:55.159 --> 00:52:00.559 kind of put it that way. But you know two things that really during 707 00:52:00.599 --> 00:52:05.559 COVID they were arresting preachers and I hope I say the city right, Cortoline, 708 00:52:07.320 --> 00:52:10.239 h yeah, I believe it was cord Alane and Moscow is what their 709 00:52:10.360 --> 00:52:13.840 city? Yes, yes, yes, you know more than I do. 710 00:52:13.880 --> 00:52:17.440 And you don't even live here, b Yes, you're right. And I 711 00:52:17.519 --> 00:52:21.000 was floored because I'm like, wait a second, this is this is Idaho, 712 00:52:21.119 --> 00:52:23.599 this is you know, land of the Free, Elm of the brave, 713 00:52:23.679 --> 00:52:27.920 this is you know, you think, And then the Dakota is the 714 00:52:27.920 --> 00:52:30.360 same thing. And I got emails from people where they're trying to take their 715 00:52:30.360 --> 00:52:34.079 property for for these pipelines, and it's just like, is there no safe 716 00:52:34.079 --> 00:52:37.559 haven anymore? But what we were talking about before we hit the record button 717 00:52:37.559 --> 00:52:43.519 was even the assumed Red states as they call it, many lease cities that 718 00:52:43.599 --> 00:52:50.679 have major universities have become infiltrated by this Marxist agenda. And like I told 719 00:52:50.679 --> 00:52:53.679 you before the show, was Texas is about as red state it used to 720 00:52:53.719 --> 00:52:59.000 be. But yeah, anybody who's ever walked down the streets of Austin realizes 721 00:52:59.679 --> 00:53:02.519 it. You could be in Portland or Seattle or anywhere else like that. 722 00:53:02.880 --> 00:53:07.920 These major universities have really been infiltrated. And it's really a fight for the 723 00:53:07.960 --> 00:53:13.960 minds and the control of the minds of the youth, it really is. 724 00:53:14.000 --> 00:53:20.440 And it's a disgusting cancer that is taking over and it's it's it's literally killing 725 00:53:20.440 --> 00:53:24.360 anything in its path when it comes to morals and values. And we moved 726 00:53:24.400 --> 00:53:30.400 here to Idaho from California from Reading California in two thousand and nine, we've 727 00:53:30.480 --> 00:53:32.880 lost, Like I said, we lost everything there in the recession. My 728 00:53:32.960 --> 00:53:37.559 husband was electrician. We lost our business or house or vehicles, you name 729 00:53:37.639 --> 00:53:40.760 it. It was gone and we were practically homeless. And so we thought, 730 00:53:40.800 --> 00:53:45.559 well, my family's already up in Idaho, let's just move up here. 731 00:53:45.280 --> 00:53:51.920 And it was. It was great for a while. And then as 732 00:53:51.920 --> 00:54:00.320 soon as the influx of Californians and and washington people started moving being in, 733 00:54:00.159 --> 00:54:06.880 we could just start seeing more and more. If it's slowly turning from red 734 00:54:07.000 --> 00:54:12.239 to blue, and and not just blue, but I mean, like really 735 00:54:12.360 --> 00:54:19.039 blue. Boise has just become so liberal and so over the top that they 736 00:54:19.079 --> 00:54:22.800 have they I don't even They just had their second Pride parade of the year 737 00:54:23.239 --> 00:54:29.599 here a couple of weekends ago. I think it was really for no reason, 738 00:54:30.000 --> 00:54:32.800 just because they want people to think that Boise is a place for everyone 739 00:54:32.880 --> 00:54:37.239 to come. And they're accepting of everyone unless you're a Christian flatter sir, 740 00:54:37.320 --> 00:54:42.519 and then they hate you. But other than that, they accept everyone else. 741 00:54:42.599 --> 00:54:46.960 And we're the only Christian Conservatives in our neighborhood because we do we do 742 00:54:47.000 --> 00:54:52.119 live deep in the liberal part of the area here unfortunately, and our neighbors 743 00:54:52.119 --> 00:54:55.840 have made it perfectly clear how much they do not like us for that reason. 744 00:54:57.000 --> 00:55:00.639 Really, yeah, and so we're praying hard. So if there is 745 00:55:00.679 --> 00:55:04.360 one prairie quest to have out there, please pray that the Lord moves us. 746 00:55:05.880 --> 00:55:07.760 It's going to take a huge miracle, but we really do, We 747 00:55:07.840 --> 00:55:14.440 really would love to move out of this area, closer to our kids' school 748 00:55:14.480 --> 00:55:17.559 that they go to, for sure, because it's getting harder and harder to 749 00:55:17.559 --> 00:55:22.280 to not be angry. Right, You don't want to be an angry person. 750 00:55:22.360 --> 00:55:27.719 You don't want to be an angry Christian or but when you're what is 751 00:55:27.719 --> 00:55:31.159 thrown in your face constantly when you walk out your front door, it is 752 00:55:31.199 --> 00:55:36.039 thrown in your kids's faces constantly. It's so hard not to be angry, 753 00:55:36.320 --> 00:55:40.760 you know, one hundred percent. When I was finishing up recording Monday's podcast 754 00:55:40.840 --> 00:55:46.800 on the fact under i'd never lose my composed I rarely, rarely, rarely 755 00:55:46.840 --> 00:55:51.199 ever lose my composure. And I lost it because, oh did you? 756 00:55:51.559 --> 00:55:54.039 I did? Because the further way we get from nine to eleven, that 757 00:55:54.119 --> 00:55:59.800 the more I realize that once again here's another cataclysmical event that no one will 758 00:56:00.159 --> 00:56:05.280 be held liable for. And without nine to eleven, COVID would never have 759 00:56:05.440 --> 00:56:09.280 happened. They all these acts had to be passed in order for these emergency 760 00:56:09.360 --> 00:56:15.039 use authorizations to be put in place. The Patriot Act gave certain powers to 761 00:56:15.119 --> 00:56:20.119 DHS. And that's why I tell everybody, make sure you take some time 762 00:56:20.159 --> 00:56:22.800 out of the rabbit hole, because at first it's really cool and you connect 763 00:56:22.840 --> 00:56:25.559 nuts and then you say, wait a second, this is real. They're 764 00:56:25.639 --> 00:56:32.400 real people involved in this, in this evil and it does you can if 765 00:56:32.440 --> 00:56:36.360 you're if you're in the rabbit hole too long, you can get very angry 766 00:56:36.400 --> 00:56:39.480 about it. And I got a little bit upset, But I think that's 767 00:56:39.480 --> 00:56:44.639 okay too, because that means you're passionate about the truth. Sure, and 768 00:56:44.679 --> 00:56:50.239 it lights to fire under you too. And so many people are so so 769 00:56:50.400 --> 00:56:52.719 passive about a lot of things. You know, that the cognitive dissipance that 770 00:56:52.800 --> 00:57:04.119 people have to not even wanting to even question anything. And I can't remember 771 00:57:04.159 --> 00:57:07.960 if it was on your podcast or if somebody else. It's somebody else say 772 00:57:07.000 --> 00:57:10.159 that. It just seems like a lot of the people who have such an 773 00:57:10.159 --> 00:57:16.280 easy going life, who have the money, who have never wanted for anything 774 00:57:16.320 --> 00:57:21.440 in their life. They're the ones that are really passive when it comes to 775 00:57:22.400 --> 00:57:25.199 they're not wanting to know the truth because they're so comfortable that's right in the 776 00:57:25.360 --> 00:57:30.920 life. And that I think the people that have gone through a lot of 777 00:57:30.960 --> 00:57:37.679 hardships and their lives and a lot of crazy hard things, you know, 778 00:57:37.119 --> 00:57:44.480 we're easier to wake up. I think we're easier to wake up because of 779 00:57:44.519 --> 00:57:46.920 the things that we've gone through in our lives. I have I have one 780 00:57:46.960 --> 00:57:54.119 sibling to have, a sister. She's extremely wealthy and she lives her and 781 00:57:54.119 --> 00:57:58.760 her family live a life of luxury, and they want absolutely nothing to do 782 00:57:58.880 --> 00:58:06.360 with with God on or any truth seeking whatsoever, because they're so comfortable that 783 00:58:06.400 --> 00:58:10.800 they don't need to know anything else. And you know, that's it's it's 784 00:58:10.840 --> 00:58:17.840 really sad because they are walking through life blindly, not wanting to know the 785 00:58:17.880 --> 00:58:22.760 truth. Yeah, and I know a lot of people in the same position 786 00:58:22.800 --> 00:58:28.239 that I know of, and it's also those are the same people who are 787 00:58:28.239 --> 00:58:32.239 really going to struggle when times get very difficult because they've never had struggle before. 788 00:58:32.039 --> 00:58:36.000 You're you're resilient, you've gone through certain things, so you're going to 789 00:58:36.039 --> 00:58:39.000 be able to adapt and overcome. And a lot of people who have never 790 00:58:39.079 --> 00:58:45.880 had adversity before are really going to struggle when they come upon extreme levels of 791 00:58:45.039 --> 00:58:51.320 discomfort. And I do believe very much in our lifetime, maybe even in 792 00:58:51.360 --> 00:58:54.519 the near future, we're going to see a big change of how things work 793 00:58:54.559 --> 00:59:00.559 in this country. And I'm talking about digital currency and signing on and if 794 00:59:00.599 --> 00:59:02.119 you want to buy yourself, you've got to go along with certain things. 795 00:59:04.280 --> 00:59:06.920 Obviously, the Bible says we don't know when, but all you have to 796 00:59:06.960 --> 00:59:10.119 do is look and see the direction that the world's going. I don't think 797 00:59:10.159 --> 00:59:15.400 I'm reaching too much to say that, right, No, no, you're 798 00:59:15.400 --> 00:59:19.519 not. You're not reaching at all. And and that and that's why it's 799 00:59:19.559 --> 00:59:27.119 so important to to find like minded people. Fortunately, we have two two 800 00:59:27.159 --> 00:59:35.119 friends that are one hundred percent on board with flat Earth and and the things 801 00:59:35.199 --> 00:59:37.559 to come, and we're all prepared. We both have travel trailers and we're 802 00:59:37.599 --> 00:59:42.000 like, okay, we'll stop off. If we got to drive to the 803 00:59:42.039 --> 00:59:45.239 middle of nowhere, at least we have somewhere to sleep that's unclosed, right, 804 00:59:45.320 --> 00:59:49.000 That's right. You do need to be prepared and and and Idaho is 805 00:59:49.039 --> 00:59:52.519 great for that because you know, it's an open carry state. It's extremely 806 00:59:52.559 --> 00:59:55.880 safe here. I think that's the reason why there wasn't a whole lot of 807 00:59:58.599 --> 01:00:07.039 shut downs and too much craziness during the the plandemic here because because there's Boise 808 01:00:07.159 --> 01:00:09.920 itself is liberal, but the rest of the state's pretty awesome, and nobody 809 01:00:10.039 --> 01:00:14.119 was really fallen for it too much if you stepped outside of the you know, 810 01:00:14.159 --> 01:00:17.239 city limits. I know that, Okay, I'm sorry. I don't 811 01:00:17.239 --> 01:00:22.280 know where Moscow is on a map. Is that near Boise? Uh? 812 01:00:22.199 --> 01:00:27.360 Now, gosh, how I think it's I shouldn't know how far it is 813 01:00:27.400 --> 01:00:29.719 from here, but I don't. I think it's like two to four hours 814 01:00:29.719 --> 01:00:31.519 ago. Okay, so it's a bit of ways. It's I was shucking 815 01:00:31.599 --> 01:00:36.360 to see that they arrested the preacher there, and again you hear that I'm 816 01:00:36.400 --> 01:00:37.679 just doing my job, and that can be worrisome. You know, from 817 01:00:37.719 --> 01:00:40.880 one aspect, we all have bills to pay, but at some point, 818 01:00:42.559 --> 01:00:45.760 you know, we got to do what's right morally. And let me ask 819 01:00:45.800 --> 01:00:49.840 you this. You're you're basically self employed, and we're witnessing hyper inflation, 820 01:00:50.360 --> 01:00:53.559 and at certain times, how are you guys, Are you guys worried about 821 01:00:53.599 --> 01:01:01.039 with everything that's going on? Oh heck yeah. I mean I can no 822 01:01:01.119 --> 01:01:07.719 longer work due to my blood clots. So we are a one income family. 823 01:01:07.960 --> 01:01:15.519 My husband works extremely hard, he doesn't stop working. We are constantly 824 01:01:15.559 --> 01:01:19.079 I hate the fact that muddy is constantly a worry, but it is. 825 01:01:19.159 --> 01:01:24.480 I mean, everything's fitsive and our kids go to Christian's school and that is 826 01:01:24.639 --> 01:01:30.119 not cheap, but it's it's worth every panty. And I mean God's great. 827 01:01:30.280 --> 01:01:35.559 He always provides. And I know, as humans we worry about the 828 01:01:35.559 --> 01:01:37.960 stuff. But you know, the Bible says his eyes on the sparrow, 829 01:01:38.119 --> 01:01:44.440 and he's definitely taking good care of us. It's it's not easy, but 830 01:01:44.480 --> 01:01:46.119 he's always taking good care of us. So it is. It's always a 831 01:01:46.119 --> 01:01:49.840 worry though. You know. Now we live in a in a two income 832 01:01:49.960 --> 01:01:52.559 society. And that's the thing is that they they want to distract us by 833 01:01:52.599 --> 01:01:58.239 having us work so hard, right so that we don't have time to sit 834 01:01:58.280 --> 01:02:00.039 down and research. We don't have time to talk to work family about these 835 01:02:00.079 --> 01:02:05.119 things. We're too tired, we're too irritated, we're too wrapped up in 836 01:02:05.239 --> 01:02:08.079 finances to even think about anything else. And that's exactly what they want, 837 01:02:08.559 --> 01:02:13.519 and they're succeeding with a lot of people. Yeah, they created a matrix 838 01:02:13.559 --> 01:02:15.880 where you're right, it is in many cases has to be a two income 839 01:02:15.960 --> 01:02:22.280 family. And you know, this country really only reaped the rewards of World 840 01:02:22.360 --> 01:02:24.840 War Two for maybe fifteen years. We're in the fifties. You know, 841 01:02:24.960 --> 01:02:30.719 dad's income would cover the mortgage, the car, college, you know, 842 01:02:30.760 --> 01:02:32.719 two vacations a year. You know, everybody was living good. And then 843 01:02:32.880 --> 01:02:36.719 they realize that, you know, hey, people have too much time on 844 01:02:36.760 --> 01:02:38.519 their hands. We need to spin up the matrix so people don't have time 845 01:02:39.559 --> 01:02:43.880 to discuss what was going to come November twenty second, nineteen sixty three and 846 01:02:43.880 --> 01:02:50.400 everything forward. So they hit the accelerator and like everybody else, everybody's too 847 01:02:50.440 --> 01:02:52.679 busy. And after working ten twelve hours, you come home, you just 848 01:02:52.719 --> 01:02:55.960 want to have a cold drink, put your feet up, and watch mindless 849 01:02:57.039 --> 01:02:59.280 entertainment for an hour, and then you got to repeat the whole thing again 850 01:02:59.320 --> 01:03:02.599 the next morning. That's right, that's right, just walking zombies, you 851 01:03:02.639 --> 01:03:07.840 know, Yeah, that's that's exactly what it is. And there was a 852 01:03:07.840 --> 01:03:12.280 point I was going to make about that but it has completely left my brain. 853 01:03:13.159 --> 01:03:15.960 It Well, why you're doing trying to think of that? I'll say, 854 01:03:15.960 --> 01:03:19.719 there's that nime that that's out there that always says, you know, 855 01:03:19.760 --> 01:03:22.800 we were not put on this world to to work, pay taxes and die. 856 01:03:22.960 --> 01:03:27.480 Right, it's uh, it should be an experience and it should be 857 01:03:28.079 --> 01:03:32.320 uh and you know, just a great journey amongst our fellow man. But 858 01:03:32.400 --> 01:03:38.039 it's just been hijacked from people, you know, who have been running evil 859 01:03:38.119 --> 01:03:43.360 since you know, pretty much the beginning of time. And it's the people 860 01:03:43.440 --> 01:03:45.840 that, like I tell my mom, she's not she's not on board with 861 01:03:45.880 --> 01:03:51.719 flat Earth yet. I'm still working on her, but uh, you know, 862 01:03:51.760 --> 01:03:58.639 I tell her. The people that are telling you that we landed on 863 01:03:58.679 --> 01:04:00.280 the moon, the people are that are to on you that space is real, 864 01:04:00.599 --> 01:04:05.800 and you know, all these different things are the same people who also 865 01:04:05.920 --> 01:04:10.159 are telling you that we came from monkeys, that we came from a big 866 01:04:10.199 --> 01:04:13.719 bay. It's all the same people. So if they're gonna lie to you 867 01:04:14.519 --> 01:04:18.079 about where we came from, why aren't they gonna lie to you about anything 868 01:04:18.079 --> 01:04:23.679 else? To hide true creation? And that's exactly what they want to do, 869 01:04:24.159 --> 01:04:28.360 is to hide true creation. So you're believing. You're not believing this 870 01:04:28.559 --> 01:04:30.199 the people that are you know, you're not believing them on the aspect of 871 01:04:30.239 --> 01:04:35.719 where we came from, but you'll go ahead and believe them on space when 872 01:04:36.039 --> 01:04:43.039 the Bible says something completely different. And that gets a little bit of a 873 01:04:43.679 --> 01:04:45.800 of a spark going and you know, in her brain to maybe think about 874 01:04:45.840 --> 01:04:50.920 it a little bit more. But it's just it's mind blowing that these Christians 875 01:04:50.960 --> 01:04:54.760 will will just follow what these people say. Well, we're not going to 876 01:04:54.800 --> 01:04:59.199 believe them on the big bay stuff, but we'll believe them on space because 877 01:04:59.199 --> 01:05:01.639 we've had a globe run in our faces since we were you know, we 878 01:05:01.840 --> 01:05:06.000 tiny little kids, right, and even in the bigger aspect of things for 879 01:05:06.079 --> 01:05:12.960 truthers who believe, you know, everything's a lie except we're on a ball 880 01:05:13.000 --> 01:05:15.880 spinning and everything else. For lated eliosntrism, that's the thing where I try 881 01:05:15.920 --> 01:05:19.719 to say, like, you can completely understand all the other rabbit holes throughout 882 01:05:19.760 --> 01:05:24.320 the world. But and again I don't judge because I was that guy for 883 01:05:24.400 --> 01:05:29.079 almost fifty years of my life. But once you see it's like sure that 884 01:05:29.159 --> 01:05:31.039 fight in the movie, they live, but just put the glasses on for 885 01:05:31.119 --> 01:05:34.840 one second, and once you see, you won't be able to unsee. 886 01:05:34.840 --> 01:05:39.840 I had to listener on my other podcasts message me and say, I'm all 887 01:05:39.840 --> 01:05:42.639 caught up on the fact under I'm gonna start listening, but I don't think 888 01:05:42.679 --> 01:05:46.039 and I said, okay, well, welcome to Flutterarth. Yeah yeah, 889 01:05:46.400 --> 01:05:50.760 and there. I mean, in all of these wonderful conspiracy theories, I 890 01:05:50.800 --> 01:05:56.000 call them my stories now. That way people don't they get all freaked out 891 01:05:56.039 --> 01:05:58.400 when you know, what are you listening to? I'll listening to my stories 892 01:05:58.559 --> 01:06:03.480 because conspiracy theory obviously has such a negative tone to it now. But like 893 01:06:03.480 --> 01:06:09.920 my grandma with her soaper operas, these are my stories. But I listened 894 01:06:09.920 --> 01:06:13.199 to these, these conspiracy theories of you know, like big Foot, and 895 01:06:13.239 --> 01:06:16.719 everyone's like, you know, big Foot doesn't exist. And then my flat 896 01:06:16.719 --> 01:06:20.239 earth friends husband was like, you know how many bears there are in Idahell? 897 01:06:20.280 --> 01:06:24.280 When he gave out some crazy number like thirty thousand bears or something, 898 01:06:24.960 --> 01:06:30.239 Yeah, how many bears have you seen one? Well? Who's to say 899 01:06:30.280 --> 01:06:32.000 that? You you know, that's my whole point with big Foot, Like 900 01:06:32.239 --> 01:06:35.480 if there's only like, you know, one hundred big Foot, no wonder 901 01:06:35.519 --> 01:06:39.400 you haven't really seen any of them, right, You've only seen one bear 902 01:06:39.480 --> 01:06:43.639 and there's like thirty thous of them in your area. I love it when 903 01:06:43.679 --> 01:06:47.599 people throw stuff like that out there, because nothing is off the table now 904 01:06:47.599 --> 01:06:50.480 as far as I'm concerned, Like if we've been lied to about the shape 905 01:06:50.480 --> 01:06:56.280 of the earth for so long, nothing is off the table when it comes 906 01:06:56.280 --> 01:07:00.639 to what the truth can be. The massive trees that you know, like 907 01:07:00.760 --> 01:07:03.280 your listener, I think it was the last one you had talked about, 908 01:07:03.280 --> 01:07:09.119 the Devil's Tower. Yeah, and the tree stuff, and yes, definitely 909 01:07:09.239 --> 01:07:16.880 massive trees that were cut down and all these all these wonderful things out there 910 01:07:17.079 --> 01:07:23.679 like that that are so compelling and so awesome and so interesting and in true 911 01:07:24.159 --> 01:07:30.360 you know. And I'd like to ask you this, I guess it's a 912 01:07:30.360 --> 01:07:34.199 two part question. Is how important to you is flat Earth and getting the 913 01:07:34.239 --> 01:07:41.320 information out there? And have you thought about any interesting ways other than the 914 01:07:41.320 --> 01:07:45.639 ones we've talked about how to get the message out there? And I know 915 01:07:45.800 --> 01:07:47.599 like for you, you live in a tough community that it wouldn't be welcome. 916 01:07:47.639 --> 01:07:51.079 Well, uh maybe if you had the bumper sticker or the h or 917 01:07:51.159 --> 01:07:56.679 signs, But have you thought about creative ways to kind of spread the word. 918 01:07:59.000 --> 01:08:02.840 Well, I'm a talker, and so I think that in conversation, 919 01:08:03.239 --> 01:08:09.480 I like to talk to people. And for instance, my mom and I 920 01:08:09.519 --> 01:08:12.880 just did an art show. She's an artist. We did an art show 921 01:08:12.920 --> 01:08:15.760 together. This last weekend. I was talking to a couple of ladies that 922 01:08:15.760 --> 01:08:17.560 came into our booths and they were Christians, because we had a few Christian 923 01:08:17.640 --> 01:08:21.439 things in our booth, and and I said, it's amazing how much you 924 01:08:21.479 --> 01:08:25.920 know, we've been lied to about the truth. And you know, things 925 01:08:25.920 --> 01:08:29.199 aren't what they seem. The Bible tells us what they seem like they are, 926 01:08:29.239 --> 01:08:32.000 and the Bible tells us something completely different. And then that sparks an 927 01:08:32.000 --> 01:08:35.479 interest of you know, well, what are you talking about? And then 928 01:08:35.560 --> 01:08:40.119 you know, you slowly ease into it. I think it's conversation. I 929 01:08:40.159 --> 01:08:49.600 think it's being approachable and and not getting hyped up if someone has a different 930 01:08:49.600 --> 01:08:53.720 opinion than yours on a situation, because then you don't want to drive them 931 01:08:53.720 --> 01:08:56.199 away or on a topic. I mean, you don't want to drive them 932 01:08:56.199 --> 01:08:59.760 away off stat topic by being you know, hot headed or hyped up. 933 01:09:00.119 --> 01:09:04.479 That just you know, just talking to people and if they're willing to hear 934 01:09:04.520 --> 01:09:08.119 it. They're willing to hear it. If they're not, they're not. 935 01:09:08.319 --> 01:09:13.439 There's a great app that I have on my phone called the Flat Earth Clock. 936 01:09:13.520 --> 01:09:18.159 Have you heard of this app? Is that different than Dave's The I 937 01:09:18.239 --> 01:09:21.199 have the Flat Earth Sun and Moon Zodiac app and you turn it on and 938 01:09:21.239 --> 01:09:26.319 it's got like the clock and you can see the sun. This one just 939 01:09:26.359 --> 01:09:33.159 says now it just This one's called flat Earth Clock and yeah, it shows 940 01:09:33.319 --> 01:09:36.239 the sun and the moon and it's an actual clock, and it's got the 941 01:09:36.239 --> 01:09:40.800 featured video on the bottom left hand corner. Yes, okay, yeah, 942 01:09:40.800 --> 01:09:44.920 that's Dave's Yep, yep, yep. There is a community section on this 943 01:09:44.960 --> 01:09:48.479 app, and I think if you pay a couple of bucks, you could 944 01:09:48.600 --> 01:09:54.439 see who else around you has the app and who is a flat earther, 945 01:09:54.680 --> 01:09:59.399 and then you can all communicate with each other through this app, which is 946 01:09:59.439 --> 01:10:01.359 really cool. So if I'm sitting in Chick fil A, I can get 947 01:10:01.359 --> 01:10:03.800 on and see if there's a flat earthers sitting behind me, and then I 948 01:10:03.840 --> 01:10:06.319 can go over and talk to them, which I haven't done that yet, 949 01:10:06.520 --> 01:10:10.920 but that would be great if that did happen. Yeah, I'm so glad 950 01:10:10.960 --> 01:10:14.399 you mentioned that I actually got a message. I actually have two message I 951 01:10:14.399 --> 01:10:16.560 got a reply to, but there was one message. They're having a get 952 01:10:16.560 --> 01:10:19.560 together I think in Gaithersburg, Maryland this week and or maybe it was last 953 01:10:19.560 --> 01:10:23.920 weekend. So it's great if you if you were looking to connect with other 954 01:10:24.199 --> 01:10:27.760 flat earthers, check it out. It's it's really it's really cool. You 955 01:10:27.800 --> 01:10:30.920 can see right in your local area who's around you that are flat earthers. 956 01:10:30.920 --> 01:10:32.359 And I'm in the middle of the boonies and there's a bunch of folks around 957 01:10:32.399 --> 01:10:39.159 here. It's really cool. And you had mentioned before about quite a few 958 01:10:39.159 --> 01:10:42.920 times on your podcast about not being able to find a home church, and 959 01:10:42.960 --> 01:10:50.439 we really struggle with that too. It's it's just it's become very difficult because 960 01:10:51.039 --> 01:10:57.800 we know what the truth is and and it's it's hard to, you know, 961 01:10:58.039 --> 01:11:03.560 find a place where you can fellowship with other people and know that they 962 01:11:03.640 --> 01:11:10.079 know the truth right and they're not being taught something completely false. Yeah, 963 01:11:10.880 --> 01:11:15.159 have you had much luck in that department of finding a church in your area. 964 01:11:15.560 --> 01:11:18.239 No, I've been to a few, and I'm gonna have to expand 965 01:11:18.279 --> 01:11:24.279 further because the one church they push evolution the other one, they're more interested 966 01:11:24.319 --> 01:11:28.199 in their softball team than they were, you know, getting out in winning 967 01:11:28.199 --> 01:11:30.920 souls. And that may sound bristle, but that's just again. I don't 968 01:11:30.920 --> 01:11:35.119 want to judge a church on one ninety minute visit, but I didn't feel 969 01:11:35.119 --> 01:11:40.680 welcome, and it's just part of it is I had such a wonderful church 970 01:11:40.720 --> 01:11:43.079 growing up. I hope I'm not trying to compare it too much to that, 971 01:11:43.159 --> 01:11:45.920 but it's just to me. I know what the truth is, and 972 01:11:45.960 --> 01:11:51.279 I guess it's become and maybe everybody has different kind of boundaries, but for 973 01:11:51.359 --> 01:11:56.159 me, I just want the truth. Like I wish I could move down 974 01:11:56.279 --> 01:12:00.880 to pastorals d Odals neighborhood and go to his church every Sunday, because I 975 01:12:00.920 --> 01:12:03.279 would that would be just tremendous. And yeah, it's important to me. 976 01:12:03.319 --> 01:12:08.159 Fellowship is important to me, and you know, all of that stuff is 977 01:12:08.239 --> 01:12:11.319 very important. But it's just so hard to find something. And the farther 978 01:12:11.479 --> 01:12:15.199 north we go in this state, the more woke these churches get. They 979 01:12:15.199 --> 01:12:18.359 have their uh you know, pride flags hanging from their church and everything else. 980 01:12:18.399 --> 01:12:23.479 It's really bad. And but I'm gonna keep trying. And even if 981 01:12:23.479 --> 01:12:25.960 I have to drive an hour to a church. That's fine too, It's 982 01:12:26.000 --> 01:12:30.000 important, Yeah, it is really important. And my kids missing, My 983 01:12:30.079 --> 01:12:32.520 kids miss going to church for sure. And and uh, even though my 984 01:12:32.600 --> 01:12:38.600 kids are younger, I gu said they're fourteen and eleven. I didn't throw 985 01:12:39.039 --> 01:12:41.560 well, my husband, I didn't throw flat earths in their face and be 986 01:12:41.600 --> 01:12:44.239 like, you've been taught wrong your whole life. It's flat, it's all 987 01:12:44.319 --> 01:12:48.399 glow right. They would just hear like little tidbits of our conversations, and 988 01:12:48.399 --> 01:12:54.640 then we always made sure that we were we were coming into the conversation from 989 01:12:54.640 --> 01:13:00.000 a biblical aspect, from a biblical point of view, because both my kids 990 01:13:00.159 --> 01:13:03.720 to have a very wonderful close relationship with the Lord, and I'm very blessed 991 01:13:04.159 --> 01:13:12.239 to have children like that. So they were really open to just listening to 992 01:13:12.359 --> 01:13:15.520 it and understanding for themselves. You know, we're like, hey, this 993 01:13:15.560 --> 01:13:17.319 is what you're being taught in school, but this is what the Bible says 994 01:13:17.319 --> 01:13:21.159 it. Even though you go to a Christian school, not all Christians are 995 01:13:21.199 --> 01:13:25.479 awake to this truth because they have been taught wrong for so long. Just 996 01:13:25.720 --> 01:13:27.920 you know, no different than Dad and I. We've been taught wrong, 997 01:13:28.000 --> 01:13:31.000 our whole lives too by wonderful, loving Christians who didn't know the truth either. 998 01:13:33.079 --> 01:13:39.319 So it would be really wonderful to find a church that was on board 999 01:13:39.960 --> 01:13:44.000 with this truth so that they could have other friends that they could talk to 1000 01:13:44.479 --> 01:13:48.239 about this as they're growing up and not feel like they come from the crazy 1001 01:13:48.279 --> 01:13:54.600 family who believes that the earth is flat. Yeah, it is quite the 1002 01:13:54.640 --> 01:13:59.479 stigma, and it is quite the lie they've created. Excuse me. Yeah, 1003 01:13:59.520 --> 01:14:01.399 and I know a lot of people who have been moved to start throwing 1004 01:14:01.479 --> 01:14:05.520 little churches for lack of a better word, because they're passionate about it. 1005 01:14:05.560 --> 01:14:10.840 And you know that that options out there for so many people. You can 1006 01:14:10.960 --> 01:14:14.840 open up your home and you know, and reach the truth. And obviously, 1007 01:14:15.000 --> 01:14:18.039 you know, obviously biblical cosmology to us is important, but is not 1008 01:14:18.159 --> 01:14:23.359 the endgame. We know that salvation is the most important part, but the 1009 01:14:23.439 --> 01:14:28.479 fact that when people realize how the world is truly created, it does bring 1010 01:14:28.479 --> 01:14:30.439 people back to God. So to me, it's it's very very important. 1011 01:14:31.479 --> 01:14:35.760 So you're so right, George, I mean it. You know, like 1012 01:14:35.800 --> 01:14:39.199 I said before, I tried talking to my mom about it, and this 1013 01:14:39.239 --> 01:14:42.720 wonderful man from Haiti was talking to my mom about it, and that she's 1014 01:14:42.760 --> 01:14:44.800 like, you know, all these things are really interesting, but the most 1015 01:14:44.840 --> 01:14:47.920 important thing is to get people saved and to spread the gospel. And I 1016 01:14:48.039 --> 01:14:51.479 said to where that's true. But since I've been awakened to this truth, 1017 01:14:51.560 --> 01:14:57.119 I have never been closer to God before in my life. My relationship with 1018 01:14:57.159 --> 01:15:04.560 God has completely aged since I have been awake to the flatter earth and the 1019 01:15:04.560 --> 01:15:09.199 beauty of His creation. It brings you so much closer because then you you 1020 01:15:09.279 --> 01:15:13.760 realize that the man has been lying to you to your whole lives, and 1021 01:15:13.800 --> 01:15:19.760 now you and God have this even closer connection because you're awake to what He's 1022 01:15:19.800 --> 01:15:25.279 created. And that the man from Haiti pretty much said the same thing. 1023 01:15:25.279 --> 01:15:28.399 He said, I I've never been closer to God in my life, and 1024 01:15:28.600 --> 01:15:33.800 so many people have been saved just from flat Earth alone. It's undeniable. 1025 01:15:33.960 --> 01:15:41.880 You know. I have the proof to to back it up with all the 1026 01:15:41.920 --> 01:15:45.159 emails I've gotten. And that's pretty emotional when you get that email too. 1027 01:15:45.279 --> 01:15:49.079 It's because that is salvation. There's that, that is the that is nothing 1028 01:15:49.079 --> 01:15:54.880 more important in life. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And and and I 1029 01:15:54.960 --> 01:15:58.239 think, like I said, I'm not I don't know I'm not a Bible 1030 01:15:58.239 --> 01:16:00.159 scholar. I don't have all the verses, you know, memorized and everything 1031 01:16:00.239 --> 01:16:05.439 else. But uh, you know that there would be a gosh, what 1032 01:16:05.479 --> 01:16:12.760 was my mom saying? There would be some sort of great from technology at 1033 01:16:12.760 --> 01:16:15.279 the end times or the wisdom or something like that, at the end times 1034 01:16:15.319 --> 01:16:19.600 would be greater or whatever. And they can't help but state that's because of 1035 01:16:19.640 --> 01:16:26.079 how many people are waking up to the truth and coming to Christ. Because 1036 01:16:26.600 --> 01:16:30.840 they are waking up to the truths and more now than ever. And if 1037 01:16:30.880 --> 01:16:34.359 you go like on NASA on Twitter when they post something, you go through 1038 01:16:34.399 --> 01:16:39.399 the comments, I smile because so many people are awake to it and just 1039 01:16:39.399 --> 01:16:41.479 say, no, you're a fraud, this is a lie. CGI. 1040 01:16:42.159 --> 01:16:44.640 So I get a smile when I see that stuff, because indeed, there 1041 01:16:44.680 --> 01:16:50.039 is a bit of a great awakening. Oh I, it's so funny. 1042 01:16:50.479 --> 01:16:56.640 You were talking about the the uh the New moon landing from India right when 1043 01:16:56.680 --> 01:17:00.560 you talked about that on your last podcast, I think, and somebody had 1044 01:17:00.600 --> 01:17:05.479 posted a video of it, and no, that's not what it was. 1045 01:17:05.520 --> 01:17:09.199 I'm sorry. Let me let me back up, because this is absolutely hilarious. 1046 01:17:10.359 --> 01:17:13.640 Oh, it was a it was a pro blow model post I saw 1047 01:17:13.680 --> 01:17:19.319 on Facebook from a Naxa sister pay post or something, and it showed, 1048 01:17:20.880 --> 01:17:25.720 you know, these power pulls going over the curvature of the Earth. And 1049 01:17:25.720 --> 01:17:28.399 then I commented on it and it said it's time to break out the p 1050 01:17:29.039 --> 01:17:33.000 the nikon p. One thousand and and then somebody commented back and said you 1051 01:17:33.119 --> 01:17:38.720 must be a flour fur And then I said, what's a flurfer? He 1052 01:17:38.840 --> 01:17:42.399 said, somebody that believes the Earth is flat? They said, people believe 1053 01:17:42.479 --> 01:17:45.479 the Earth is flat? Are you serious? And so I'm trolling this guy 1054 01:17:45.520 --> 01:17:50.800 on Facebook. You were commenting back and forth and and he's just like, 1055 01:17:50.880 --> 01:17:54.239 you know, yeah, people believe the Earth is flat. And I can't 1056 01:17:54.239 --> 01:17:56.960 believe I was stupid. They are blah blah blah. And I said, 1057 01:17:57.000 --> 01:18:00.239 you sound like a really intelligent guy. What are your thoughts on the newst 1058 01:18:00.359 --> 01:18:03.640 moon landing from India? And he says, way to go, India. 1059 01:18:03.680 --> 01:18:08.479 I think that's incredible and back and they said, wait a minute, you 1060 01:18:08.520 --> 01:18:12.640 believe that's true, but you're going to insult somebody else's intelligence because they're thinking 1061 01:18:12.720 --> 01:18:15.840 outside of the box and think the Earth is flat? Are you kidding me? 1062 01:18:15.319 --> 01:18:21.760 Like they put so little effort into that video. It's terrible. I 1063 01:18:21.920 --> 01:18:26.840 like, you're gonna believe that's true, but but you're gonna, you know, 1064 01:18:27.159 --> 01:18:30.000 sit there and bash somebody who thinks that the Earth is flat. But 1065 01:18:30.319 --> 01:18:32.399 the India move, I mean I had that game on my Atari back in 1066 01:18:32.479 --> 01:18:38.600 nine eighty nine, you know, like I had that cartridge on the twenty 1067 01:18:38.600 --> 01:18:41.159 six hundred, the Indian moon landing. What a game right there with moon 1068 01:18:41.199 --> 01:18:45.079 patrol. Yes, yeah, it's so bad that they actually believe that, 1069 01:18:45.159 --> 01:18:48.960 but oh linkedness. Yeah, and I know, I've got some emails a 1070 01:18:49.000 --> 01:18:55.159 lot of people talking about Artemis, which is just conveniently scheduled for I think 1071 01:18:55.159 --> 01:18:58.520 we're around election day, so a lot of people, uh, you know, 1072 01:18:59.000 --> 01:19:01.119 wondering what that event it's going to be all about. But I've also 1073 01:19:01.159 --> 01:19:06.119 seen articles where it's it may be too expensive to even do, so who 1074 01:19:06.159 --> 01:19:10.119 knows what they have up their sleeve. I guess we'll see in the next 1075 01:19:11.039 --> 01:19:14.720 fourteen months. I'm sure we'll have all kinds of interesting events, maybe even 1076 01:19:14.720 --> 01:19:17.279 a Project Blue Beam. Hey, you never know, I mean that would 1077 01:19:17.279 --> 01:19:23.000 be very I'm excited for all that stuff, you know. I mean, 1078 01:19:23.039 --> 01:19:27.560 I think all of us truths are we're super excited we're living in this amazing 1079 01:19:27.600 --> 01:19:30.479 time. I did want to ask you, George, though, because I 1080 01:19:30.520 --> 01:19:34.439 do really do, I really do value your opinion. What are your thoughts 1081 01:19:34.560 --> 01:19:40.159 on the Book of Enoch and the and the rest of the pockets of books. 1082 01:19:40.720 --> 01:19:43.159 Well, I have the Book of Enoch and I use it as a 1083 01:19:45.119 --> 01:19:49.439 kind of a what's what's the word to use. I read it and I 1084 01:19:49.479 --> 01:19:55.520 think it's He was a very important figure obviously in the Bible, a tremendous 1085 01:19:55.520 --> 01:20:00.840 figure. And I think, if I remember correctly, the evidence just wasn't 1086 01:20:00.920 --> 01:20:04.880 there to support it being canaanized in sixteen oh five when the King James version 1087 01:20:05.079 --> 01:20:10.600 was you know, completed. But we know now with the Dead Sea scrolls 1088 01:20:10.640 --> 01:20:15.399 and everything else that it's legitimate and it's you know, I think, correct 1089 01:20:15.399 --> 01:20:16.600 me if I'm wrong. Again, I'm not a scholar either. I think 1090 01:20:16.640 --> 01:20:20.760 it may even predate the first five books of the Bible, the Tourra, 1091 01:20:20.960 --> 01:20:25.760 so I think it's very important. I read it. I use it as 1092 01:20:25.800 --> 01:20:29.039 a support That's what I was going to use as supporting document for like the 1093 01:20:29.039 --> 01:20:31.199 Book of Genesis, because it does touch on many of the things that we 1094 01:20:31.239 --> 01:20:35.760 discussed today, right and I asked Pastoral that question as well. I think 1095 01:20:35.760 --> 01:20:40.880 he kind of gave the same answer, is I think it's an important document, 1096 01:20:41.000 --> 01:20:45.479 and I think it's I think it's okay to read. I certainly did. 1097 01:20:45.760 --> 01:20:47.079 I'm very glad that you say that, because I have the I have 1098 01:20:47.159 --> 01:20:50.199 the Book of actually I have in the Book of Enoch and all of the 1099 01:20:50.279 --> 01:20:55.159 other books ordered a giant books from Amazon, and then, man, I 1100 01:20:55.199 --> 01:21:00.239 just dove into that like like no one's business. And the reason why is 1101 01:21:00.279 --> 01:21:05.760 because back in June, I had a very vivid dream. And I do 1102 01:21:05.840 --> 01:21:11.119 believe that God talks to us through our dreams when when things are extremely important. 1103 01:21:11.479 --> 01:21:15.680 And I had this really important, vivid dream that would I just wouldn't 1104 01:21:15.760 --> 01:21:19.640 leave my mind for like two weeks straight. I could not stop thinking about 1105 01:21:19.680 --> 01:21:25.119 it. And I had a dream that we were all of us, were 1106 01:21:25.199 --> 01:21:30.560 all of us truly saved people were on earth and we were eating delicious food 1107 01:21:30.840 --> 01:21:34.840 and it was great and we were happy. And then all of the it 1108 01:21:34.920 --> 01:21:39.840 was described in my dream as the true unbelievers, So people who thought that 1109 01:21:39.880 --> 01:21:44.000 they were saved because they kind of confessed their faith in God, but they 1110 01:21:44.039 --> 01:21:48.199 really weren't. They were all locked up in cages and they were being transported 1111 01:21:48.199 --> 01:21:54.000 to Hell, and they were screaming and reaching their hands out through the bars 1112 01:21:54.560 --> 01:22:00.319 and you know, begging for help. And in my dream, my sister 1113 01:22:00.359 --> 01:22:05.079 and her cold family we were in those cages and they were yelling and screaming 1114 01:22:05.079 --> 01:22:08.279 and they're just like, help us, like I thought we were Christians, 1115 01:22:08.319 --> 01:22:11.159 And I'm like, no, you, you had your opportunity, but you 1116 01:22:11.399 --> 01:22:15.800 denied God. And EMA were here eating delicious food and this is wonderful and 1117 01:22:15.920 --> 01:22:23.000 earth is beautiful, and all the unsaved left, but the true believers stayed 1118 01:22:23.039 --> 01:22:27.439 and we were happy and enjoyous and delicious food kept coming up in that dream 1119 01:22:27.479 --> 01:22:30.880 over and over again, and it was just crazy and I couldn't it couldn't. 1120 01:22:30.920 --> 01:22:33.039 It wouldn't leave my head. And a couple of months later I started 1121 01:22:33.079 --> 01:22:38.359 reading the Book of Enoch, and I'm not kidding you. The Book of 1122 01:22:38.479 --> 01:22:45.039 Enoch was laying out that dream nearly word for word, and my mind was 1123 01:22:45.199 --> 01:22:50.279 blown. I couldn't believe it. It was talking about how the saved or 1124 01:22:50.319 --> 01:22:55.960 staying on the earth and the and I have all the passages written down, 1125 01:22:55.960 --> 01:23:00.399 but and the nonbelievers left and we stayed here and talked about this. Enoch 1126 01:23:00.520 --> 01:23:05.520 was asking an angel about this specific tree, and the fruit from this tree 1127 01:23:05.640 --> 01:23:10.159 was so delicious and it was only for the true believers, and so on 1128 01:23:10.239 --> 01:23:13.000 and so forth. And I was like, after I read that, it 1129 01:23:13.119 --> 01:23:15.680 just solidified in my mind. I'm like, Okay, I think that this 1130 01:23:15.760 --> 01:23:20.039 is definitely something that people should be reading. I think it's a very important 1131 01:23:20.239 --> 01:23:27.479 book. And and it was almost eerie that it was nearly word for word 1132 01:23:27.840 --> 01:23:30.920 in a sense. And this was months before he even started reading the book 1133 01:23:30.000 --> 01:23:34.359 could be knock wow. I'll tell you, if I had that dream, 1134 01:23:34.399 --> 01:23:39.920 I wouldn't sleep for a week. I goodness. It reminds me of those 1135 01:23:39.960 --> 01:23:43.640 I don't know if you remember back in the day, those those old Christian 1136 01:23:43.720 --> 01:23:46.399 tracks, those little men. They looked like many comic books, and it 1137 01:23:46.520 --> 01:23:49.720 like the cover said this was your life. They'd be laying around restaurants and 1138 01:23:49.800 --> 01:23:54.399 like different churches would leave them in different places, and it like you open 1139 01:23:54.439 --> 01:23:57.319 it up, it would be a guy smoking a pipe and drinking liquor and 1140 01:23:57.359 --> 01:24:00.000 he's got his Porsche and like later in the story he's like in the Lake 1141 01:24:00.079 --> 01:24:03.119 of Fire. It's just like that freaked me out as a young as a 1142 01:24:03.119 --> 01:24:09.399 young person seeing those things. Yes, yeah, yeah, I absolutely remember 1143 01:24:09.439 --> 01:24:12.920 those. That's so funny. And I remember listening to Unshackled. I don't 1144 01:24:12.920 --> 01:24:15.760 know if you've ember Unshackled on the radio. Oh yeah, absolutely. Isn't 1145 01:24:15.760 --> 01:24:21.600 that that wonderful organ intro? You know? Yeah, I'm sorry. Isn't 1146 01:24:21.600 --> 01:24:25.920 that one of like the longest running radio programs I've been around for like fifty 1147 01:24:26.000 --> 01:24:30.800 years? Is it still on? I don't know. I haven't listened to 1148 01:24:30.840 --> 01:24:38.079 it in years, but I just remember my uh, my singing opera lessons 1149 01:24:38.119 --> 01:24:40.920 were about forty five minutes away from where we lived as a kid, and 1150 01:24:40.960 --> 01:24:43.760 so on the way home, Unshackled was on every night on the way home 1151 01:24:43.800 --> 01:24:46.560 from that commute. So we would listen to it every night in the car, 1152 01:24:47.119 --> 01:24:49.920 and that wonderful pipe organ would come in in the beginning, you know, 1153 01:24:49.960 --> 01:24:54.000 do take Adoo, and then they would start, you know, with 1154 01:24:54.079 --> 01:24:58.840 Beth with the wonderful story. But I don't know if it's still on or 1155 01:24:58.880 --> 01:25:02.159 not. It is. It first aired September twenty third, nineteen fifty, 1156 01:25:02.199 --> 01:25:08.359 so, uh Saturday will be the seventy third anniversary. It is the longest 1157 01:25:08.439 --> 01:25:18.119 running radio drama in history. Wow, that's that's so cool. Yeah, 1158 01:25:15.600 --> 01:25:19.640 I got yeah, I bet you. They do it on like the Ham 1159 01:25:19.760 --> 01:25:24.800 radio is like w BCQ out of Monticello, Maine. But it says it's 1160 01:25:24.840 --> 01:25:29.119 aired over sixty five hundred times around the world each week, over fifteen hundred 1161 01:25:29.199 --> 01:25:33.800 radio outlets. Amazing. Yeah, yeah, that is amazing. Huh. 1162 01:25:33.840 --> 01:25:40.079 But yeah, that's pretty cool what we are. We're at the ninety minute 1163 01:25:40.079 --> 01:25:43.439 mark. Now, was there any things that you had written down that you 1164 01:25:43.479 --> 01:25:48.199 wanted to touch on before we go? Yeah, so, you know, 1165 01:25:48.279 --> 01:25:53.159 I don't know. I guess. I guess the more most important thing to 1166 01:25:53.199 --> 01:25:57.239 say it for me as we close for this is that if you are really 1167 01:25:57.279 --> 01:26:01.600 seeking the truth on anything, whether it's you know, you be reading the 1168 01:26:01.600 --> 01:26:03.800 Book of Enoch, because I know that there's a lot of you know, 1169 01:26:04.399 --> 01:26:08.560 mixed opinions on that. If you know the earth is flat, any of 1170 01:26:08.600 --> 01:26:11.640 those things that you you feel like you want to know the truth about, 1171 01:26:12.520 --> 01:26:15.880 sincerely ask God for guidance and to open your eyes to the truth, and 1172 01:26:15.960 --> 01:26:21.640 he will. He will show you the truth. And be prepared because the 1173 01:26:21.680 --> 01:26:28.119 truth is shocking on so many things, but He will show you the truth 1174 01:26:28.199 --> 01:26:35.000 for sure. And and once you awaken to this once the veil has been 1175 01:26:35.039 --> 01:26:39.640 lifted, right the Great Awakening, and you see the world around you, 1176 01:26:39.720 --> 01:26:43.560 it's going to change everything. The skies filling look different, you know, 1177 01:26:43.640 --> 01:26:47.479 the trees look different. Life and self and itself looks completely different. Everything's 1178 01:26:47.560 --> 01:26:54.039 brighter and newer and even more glorious than we thought it was before with God's 1179 01:26:54.079 --> 01:26:57.800 creation. So, and I'm really thankful for your podcast, and I'm really 1180 01:26:57.840 --> 01:27:02.119 thankful that you have people like me who's just to stay at home mom who's 1181 01:27:02.119 --> 01:27:10.720 had a journey and is excited about the eye opening truth and your podcast is 1182 01:27:10.720 --> 01:27:15.079 just an absolute wonderful outlet to get information and to hear people, and it's 1183 01:27:15.079 --> 01:27:19.199 a huge blessing. Well, I greatly appreciate it, and I've learned something 1184 01:27:19.239 --> 01:27:24.760 from every single person that has ever been on, and everybody's just been an 1185 01:27:24.800 --> 01:27:28.880 absolute joy. And I can't thank you enough for sharing your story. And 1186 01:27:28.920 --> 01:27:31.640 I know you know every person who comes on it resonates with somebody out there 1187 01:27:32.119 --> 01:27:34.439 and it gives them hope and it gives a courage. And your story, 1188 01:27:34.479 --> 01:27:42.199 my goodness, the amount of you know, you're just a very strong individual, 1189 01:27:42.399 --> 01:27:45.680 and I want to thank you for joining the program. And shout out 1190 01:27:45.680 --> 01:27:50.079 to your husband for all of you dones and for introducing you to the podcast. 1191 01:27:50.159 --> 01:27:53.840 So a big shout out to him as well in your family and just 1192 01:27:53.880 --> 01:27:57.720 God bless you and stay in touch. It's been a blessing to share this 1193 01:27:57.800 --> 01:28:00.800 ninety minutes with you. Thank you, Jorge, thank you so much, 1194 01:28:00.800 --> 01:28:04.319 and God bless you. Two really appreciate the time. Thank you and listeners. 1195 01:28:04.600 --> 01:28:06.560 You may or may not have it two minute, but it has a 1196 01:28:06.560 --> 01:28:09.840 clip follow. I just need to double check and make sure it's the correct 1197 01:28:09.840 --> 01:28:14.680 audio. Thanks again for your continued support. The Wrong podcast The flat Earth 1198 01:28:14.720 --> 01:28:18.119 Files at gmail dot com and check out the website The flat Earth Files dot 1199 01:28:18.159 --> 01:28:21.560 com. Don't forget David Weiss Live October eleventh, eight pm Eastern Time. 1200 01:28:21.920 --> 01:28:25.560 God bless y'all. Keep your head on a swivel. Until the next time, 1201 01:28:25.600 --> 01:28:30.279 my friends, we will see. The following is a clip from season 1202 01:28:30.359 --> 01:28:36.439 seven, episode six of Bonanza, Devil on her Shoulder. Gravity is something 1203 01:28:36.479 --> 01:28:42.199 we can't see, but we know it's a great invisible force that keeps us 1204 01:28:42.239 --> 01:28:45.039 all here on Earth. Some of you know what a magnet is, don't 1205 01:28:45.079 --> 01:28:49.399 you? I do. I Well, then let's think of it like that. 1206 01:28:50.479 --> 01:28:55.800 Gravity could be called a kind of magnet. It's a natural force that 1207 01:28:56.600 --> 01:29:00.640 keeps us all from flying off into space. We were always till that the 1208 01:29:00.680 --> 01:29:03.880 world is flat. You are told right, don't listen to her. I've 1209 01:29:03.920 --> 01:29:08.319 been patient with you, Sarah. Lord knows I've been patient. But now 1210 01:29:08.359 --> 01:29:13.279 your words have revealed you. The law of gravity was discovered by Sir Isaac 1211 01:29:13.319 --> 01:29:17.199 Newton in sixteen eighty seven. That's almost two hundred years ago, Uncle Evin, 1212 01:29:17.640 --> 01:29:21.800 But there is only one law, the law of God. If our 1213 01:29:21.800 --> 01:29:26.119 divine maker had meant for us to walk upside down, he would have put 1214 01:29:26.119 --> 01:29:32.640 feet on our hands. Children, listen to me. Look around you, 1215 01:29:33.000 --> 01:29:38.640 all around you, as far as the eye can see. The earth is 1216 01:29:38.720 --> 01:29:43.840 flat. Now you see it that way because that is the way the Lord 1217 01:29:43.880 --> 01:29:55.800 intended for it to be. Anything else's heresy. That's good. But Uncle 1218 01:29:55.840 --> 01:30:00.000 Evan Columbus proved the world wasn't flat by sailing around it. If he was 1219 01:30:00.079 --> 01:30:04.439 sailing upside down, the water would have emptied into the sky. Why can't 1220 01:30:04.479 --> 01:30:10.159 you accept it. It's a proven scientific fact, Sarah. What you speak 1221 01:30:10.239 --> 01:30:15.319 is heresy. Our a divine maker intended us to walk upright, not upside 1222 01:30:15.319 --> 01:30:18.319 down. We've had enough of the scientific nonsense of yours. School is over. 1223 01:30:27.039 --> 01:30:31.159 From this moment on will no longer corrupt our children. The children need 1224 01:30:31.239 --> 01:30:41.560 me, not anymore, they don't. Thank you again for listening to the 1225 01:30:41.560 --> 01:30:45.039 Flat Earth Files. Please check out our website, the flat earth Files dot 1226 01:30:45.079 --> 01:30:50.119 com. You can email us at the flat earth Files at gmail dot com, 1227 01:30:50.119 --> 01:30:54.680 and you can reach out to us with your written correspondence to the following 1228 01:30:54.760 --> 01:31:00.880 PO box address It to George Hobbs PO Box one zero nine, Goldsboro, 1229 01:31:01.199 --> 01:31:05.000 Maryland, and that is g O L D S B O r O, 1230 01:31:05.760 --> 01:31:11.560 Maryland, m D. And the zip code is two one six three six. 1231 01:31:12.199 --> 01:31:15.560 The address is also at the bottom of our website. Thank you all 1232 01:31:15.680 --> 01:32:59.439 for your continued support. You're listening to the fact Hunter Radio Network Just the 1233 01:32:59.439 --> 01:32:59.920 Facts Man.