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Mac. I read the news today, Oh boy, I read the news

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today. Oh boy. Number one, that song des There has more credit.

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It's fucking fantastic. Great So number
two it really is. Number two.

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Did you hear about this? Wendy's
was toying with possibly surge pricing on

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their menu. I don't even know
how they would do this. So if

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you out there at home didn't hear
this, Wendy's was just going to operate

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like liftin uber. When the demand
was higher, their prices were going to

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be higher. But how would they
determine that the amount of mobile orders that

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people in their mobile orders. Maybe
if you know a long drive through a

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long line inside, it can just
measure the amount of people ordering. But

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it seems like they didn't have a
They have said, they've come out and

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said this not gonna happen. Yeah, terrible idea. I just would never

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go to Wendy's again, or hear
me out. Just eat on an off

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schedule. Just change how you eat
food, Like ten am and eight pm,

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you eat at ten two and eight
thirty two might be two, might

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be still high traffic. I don't
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feel like that would be it.
But I also don't want to build my

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life around the Wendy schedule. Sorry, you seem to have changed your lifestyle.

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Why, well, Wendy started charging
more around dinner time. There's only

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a buck fifty at eight. I
only eat at three thirty every day.

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I eat a lot, but I
only eat at three thirty. I would

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be on board, but you know
it wouldn't be this way. You know,

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they would have the baseline price,
right, yeah, six fifty seven

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to fifty whatever it is. No, no, you need to lower it

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below the base. They wouldn't do
that though. You know that's where the

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bullshit is. You need to if
you are going to surge the price,

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you've gotta help me out. The
saurus. No, the sours wouldn't be

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here, it'd be the dictionary.
Yeah, what is the book that has

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the opposites in it? Yeah,
it's the Big Book of Leif Erickson.

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Like at eight o'clock, the baconator
should be two dollars and fifty cents,

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and then and then you get people
coming in, and then it starts to

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go back up, Like I just
fucking budget bullshit. That's what Wendy's is.

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One good three Yeah, job three, King of Queen MARYL. Street

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Entertainment, goon in dime Man,
and we are the Mac and Goo program.

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We bring you sand, We bring
you lots and lots of sand.

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This in fact, has gone down
as Anakin Skywalker's least favorite movie of all

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time. Goo. Yes, today
we were talking about Dune Follier. Do

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that's right? Dune Part two?
Goo? When asked if I'm in to

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Dune too, I said, Dune
two chicks At the same time, do

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you just want to get these out
of the way right now? Shut out

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to west that one. When I
was at the theater, I spilled some

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popcorn and I said, did id
doing that? All right? We absolutely

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crushed that opening, folks. Dune
Part two is a brand new release,

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so we have not seen the audience
reaction yet. We are recording this of

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release night day before release. However, you're doing it here. We have

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seen it. What do we see
it? Eight days ago? Nine days?

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We saw it a while ago,
and I just thought about it a

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lot. Yeah, I have as
well, and I've been asked by some

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prospective viewers like, hey, would
you think And I always preface it to

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prop it up a little bit more. I did not love the first Dude

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movie that came out in twenty twenty
one. I thought it was not a

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miss, but fell short of expectations, A little disappointed by it. And

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that said, I loved this movie, loved it, loved it, loved

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it. I liked the first movie, but I feel like in this you

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know, the movie came out during
the pandemic, so I watched it half

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on my television, half on my
phone. Yep, that might have affected

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my viewing. I agree, YEP. I didn't see the first one in

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theaters, and this is one of
those movies, especially after watching the second

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one, that the theater enhances the
oh so much. And also, I

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wasn't even that excited to see this
movie. I was pretty excited. I

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think we might have had it top
three or four aren't our most anticipated movies

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on the year. But it wasn't
something where I was like, finally I'm

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gonna see Done too. I was
like, Okay, Dune Tooes tonight.

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Yeah. I think the little bit
of the disconnect for you is I'm a

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massive Denivela New fan, and you're
like, you like him, but you

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don't like Blade Runner twenty forty nine
in the way I do you don't love

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prisoners the way I do. So
he's not as high on your listen's directors

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as he is for me. So
as we ramped up towards this movie,

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as we got closer, I was
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I actually even went back and rewatched
Dune Part one the day of the screening,

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like six hours before the screen to
sort of try to help me two

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things here at number one, having
said what I just said, I am

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now I cannot wait for Doune three
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am so excited to see where this
story goes. Also, let's get this

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out of the way at the beginning
of this Dune podcast, we have never

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read a book. Yeah, and
a lot of the people that came away

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loving the first movie seemed to be
the people that read the book or were

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like in on Doune Lore twenty thirty
years ago, the people that grew up

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reading that for the Frank Herbert novel. Obviously, as non book readers,

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we weren't those people. So this
one purely as a moviegoer. That's what

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we're talking about here, just moviegoers. Storytelling within dialogue, within acting,

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within direction, within the cinematography,
mac You went so far as putting a

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note into the Nuts and Boltsier,
which I don't think you've ever done before.

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He deserves credit. I would give
note Max credit. Union this man

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all right, oh god good,
you need to figure out what is wrong

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with you? Can you go to
urgent care. I'm leaving you my rollerblades

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in my in my will, which, by the way, rest in peace.

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Richard Lewis. Yes. His final
appearance on CURBYR Enthusiasm was him and

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Larry arguing about each other's wills,
which is just so fitting. That is

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really good for those two. Let's
get into the nuts and Boltier. Good.

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Dune Part two is a PG thirteen
action adventure drama in sci fi with

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a run time of one hundred and
sixty six minutes. For a little bit

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of context, the first Dune is
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this is a little bit longer.
Goot, PC thirteen. It feels like

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an R movie, doesn't It doesn't
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so invested and it's so brutal at
points it feels like an R movie.

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Here is me just first off,
for the next hour, just s sing,

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this movie's d I never once thought
of the rating during this movie.

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Same, same, It just felt
like an our movie, and it just

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felt just like a pure movie.
Like Okay, you know how when you

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when you watch like you know,
old Indiana Jones movies or something like,

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you never think of what the rating
is. Sure, yeah, yeah,

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yeah, that's a good point.
You were just so engrossed by what I

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was just I was in that world. I had to take my shoes off

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in the theater because I had sand
in them. Roddy tez Go This debuted

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with a ninety five percent on sixty
four reviews. It is currently at ninety

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six percent. And this is just
critic rating here on two hundred and seven

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reviews, so it's pretty locked into
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Uh. For reference to the first
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which makes sense to me. Ninety
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at the first one as being a
half a movie. Yeah yeah, and

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the audience score for this, I'm
guessing is gonna be around ninety five.

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This is definitively let me also,
and yes, we rail against Roddy Tea's

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constantly. I don't know how you
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if you don't even love the story, how you could come away from this

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adventure saying this deserves less than whatever. A six point five whatever gives you

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the positive because its thumbs up thumbs
down. As a critic, everything technically

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is really good to great, if
not perfect, in this movie. I

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don't know how a critic doesn't like
this movie. Like some of the bad

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reviews, and I can see where
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some of the storytelling was too simplistic. But that's also that's sci fi.

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Sci Fi is always that because that
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also not what you're here for.
You're not here for this story, You're

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here for the spectacle. No,
you never hear people criticize Star Wars for

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having a simplistic Star Wars has the
most serialistic. It's a ripoff of this.

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It's a simple version of this.
Yes, so you never hear that

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criticism. Star Wars is you know
those dummies books like you know, uh,

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Dune for dummies. Yeah, that's
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one hundred percent goo on Metacritic.
This opened with an eighty on twenty two

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reviews, a seventy nine currently unfortunately
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and in the range with a lot
of the Villaineuve movie. He's pretty much

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in that high seventies load mid eighties
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the highest rated or this was the
highest rated movie ever on IMDb, in

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a nine point four, but that
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probably in response to that because people
are trolls. Uh good. The first

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movie had a seventy three. So
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above on both roddi Tea's and Metacritic, and for you and I both,

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I think we would agree it's at
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notches above, that first movie.
Yeah, I didn't love the first one.

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To me, and again even when
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the first thirty minutes is kind of
messy in confusing, and then the

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end is really unsatisfying. So like
the bread of the sandwich is not very

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good. The in between was pretty
good and very interesting, but where it

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ends and where it begins just wasn't
great. Dude. Part TI Follier ed

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D is written by Denis Villeneuve,
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first Dune movie. The second writer
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written Prometheus, Doctor Strange, Passengers, The Money, The Tom Cruise,

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Mummy, and the first Dune movie. That's an interesting, an interesting track

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record for sure. In development,
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Dragon, the Forever War, World
War Robot van Helsing that is going to

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be a remake The Black Hole,
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untitled space adventure project. Sorry forgive
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it, Paul, forgive me.
This is based on the novel Dune by

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Frank Herbert. I believe that came
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George Lucas's Star Wars scripts after he
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with the Dune writers. Nah,
that wasn't that good. The two writers

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on the first movie plus Eric Roth, so there was three writers. I

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wonder if Villeneuve brought Roth on for
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the ropes, because Roth has an
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learn how to professionally do a script, and so he didn't include him in

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this one, of course, directed
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who and what he's done so far, you've been living under a rock.

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I would say of the last fifteen
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the planet. Christopher Nolan's best stuff, most of it came in the twenty

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tens. He obviously is still great. Villaneuve has done Prisoners, Sakario,

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Arrival, Blade Runner twenty forty nine, of course, the first two and

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all within the last twelve or thirteen
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something called Rendezvous with Rama, and
in production he has Dune and the Cleopatra

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movie he's working on, So that's
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here's your note. Yes, cinematographer
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This movie is just beautiful. The
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you're just looking out over the sand, over the sun, the worms coming

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at you, just great establishing moments. Yeah, it's one of the best

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looking movies of all time, that's
for sure. You did Dune, the

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Batman the creator did he do Blay
Run of twenty forty nine, because that's

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another one of the best looking movies
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three Okay. Synopsis of Dune Part
two, Paula Trady's unites with Shani.

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Is it Shanni or Shanny? I
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any Channy. It's short for Chandler
Channy, Shanni and the Fremen while seeking

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revenge against the conspirators who destroyed his
family. This movie stars Timothy Shalomey as

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Paula Trades, Zendeia as Shanni,
Rebecca Ferguson as Jessica that is Paul's mother.

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Javier Bardem is stillgar he is the
leaders of the Freminade. Fantastic,

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He's really really he's Josh Brolin as
Gurnie Hallick, who is also amazing.

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Those two guys. Voice is so
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going back and forth. I just
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occasionally, but No Country for Old
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the movie is just him and bar
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shalome is very good in this,
and at a point in this movie you're

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like, shalome is great in this. Yeah, but Shalomey is really propped

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up by those two actors. Yeah, very true. That's that's he's a

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scarecrow for a while and they're just
carrying him around. We get Austin Butler

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as fade Ratha here, who I
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I couldn't picture him playing after.
Do you put him up there with the

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all time villains, because a lot
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No, because I don't think he
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here. I don't think he has
the big villain win moment that you need

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to be like one of the all
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mean. I also thought at times
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him and scars Guard. He actually, in one of the lead up interviews

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for this movie, the other cast
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so much like scars Guard, and
He's like, yeah, that's what I

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did. I basically just mimicked him, and that's how I got the voice

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for this character. I don't know
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it seems like she's gonna mean a
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as Beast Robin, who is more
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Fade Ralph his brother and what's his
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Christopher Walking in here is the Emperor
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makes his debut here. He didn't
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do you like? The casting?
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sure? I liked it okay,
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she's gonna have a larger role going
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no doubt about that, and then
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cast member here. Charlotte Rampling as
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Paul's grandmother. She is unbelievable as
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dah? And she has flying monkeys. So to reiterate the first Dune movie,

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I believe I gave it thirty three
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to thirty two. It was a
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like I said, where it leaves
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universe, I don't know if they
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that the opening is still pretty messy. So I did not go back and

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listen to our podcast. I have
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and I wouldn't recommend anyone do that. But I believe I gave it a

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thirty four, but also said TBD, I NC I need to see what

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happens in this movie to then really
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might give it a couple extra hot
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especially after rewatching it. Let me
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non spoilers. Do you like,
is it essential that you have to watch

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the first movie to understand this movie? Yes, but I don't know if

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that's a good thing, because now
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fifteen minutes of run up to really
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movie. And I do really appreciate
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and I think it might be deserving. So some of the others that

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deserve mentioned here obviously before you go
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makes a great sequel is it needs
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Agreed, I'll agree, go have
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The one that everyone has measured against
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sort of the og sequels better than
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one of the best movies of all
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never will. Actually on tier with
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one I ever on references Lord of
the Rings the Two Towers much better than

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the first one, maybe a similar
situation to what we got going on here.

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The Dark Knight much better than Batman
Begins. Terminator two, I would

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say, is probably better than the
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in this conversation Spider Man Across the
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I think is in the conversation Top
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movies, but much better than the
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talking about here. I almost put
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of being like so far superior to
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like its own thing, but yet
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I wouldn't put Maverick up against like
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that you don't, but like,
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fairly similar. I think Maverick completely
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think a lot of people talk about, is the best toy story and better

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than the first one, improves upon
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never gets listed because I wonder if
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which kind of is. It's the
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to Avengers Infinity War, a continuation
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in the conversation. But that's ten
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at the top of that list.
Say Empire and Godfather too at the top

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of that list, but it's probably
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four movies, but also and a
lot like Top Gun. To me,

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when I came away from Doune one, I was like, Okay, that's

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not bad. I want to see
where this goes. Yeah, when I

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came away from this one, you
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I was like, wow, wow, wow wow right yeah, fuck,

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totally agree, totally agree with that
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go any further too, if you're
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not that you expected one, but
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so don't you don't have to waste
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and I did sit in the theater
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like soak it in, like we
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I just sat in the chair and
thought, Yeah, hell of an experience,

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really good. Also, what might
help you because the first hour or

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so hour and a half, it's
it's a lot to lead up. Get

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a nice, big old bucket of
popcorn. Yeah, really helped me out?

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was munching much of crunch. Let's
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isn't it crazy how we went from
seeing Madam Web to Doune Too as

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a back to back theater experience.
I don't think there will ever be a

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wider gap. Ever, it's happening
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moment, in my whole life,
there will never be a wider gap in

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quality of movies between Madam Web and
Dune. Like everything about the quality too,

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Yes, visuals, every writing,
acting, unbelievable. Everything is completely

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different. Like this, Dune Part
two could have been a bad movie,

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but because I saw Madame Web before, I loved it. The meticulous attention

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to detail and one Madam Web of
course, talking about I bet there's gonna

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be a lot of people actually too
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experiences. As well, Wow,
how did that happen? Yeah, Matt

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fun factor, how much fun did
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beyond the visuals of it, storytelling
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I loved Paul's journey and the eventual
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the movie where I'm like, do
I accept this man as my lord and

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savior? And then something happens and
you say, wait a second, I

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completely I'm in with him. Yeah, I agree, Like the fun is

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mostly anticipation films, Like, it's
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and where we're going, and it's
really fun also on top of that to

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see Paul like ingratiate himself with the
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Like, they did a really nice
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half making the audience believe what was
happening on the screen. There was no

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rush through it. Now. There
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I was like, all right,
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this, But it was done quite
well satisfactor and this might be one of

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the highest satisfactory movies, especially when
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because not only did you get a
resolution to what's happening here, but you

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get a lead into what could be
ten more movies. There's something It was

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almost I'm not gonna compare it to
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like the nerves Big Game nerves,
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and so much built up in the
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the final hour, and when it
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like, I really hope this nails
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this fucking big, grandiose thing.
Speaking of which, Borometer, I did

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check my phone around the ninety minute
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like, where are we time wise, and how are they like,

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how are they gonna use the clock? How are they gonna Patrick Mahomes this

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bring us to the two minute warning
and then score the old touchdown. Yes,

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Sports Against the Final hour is incredibly
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Barometer, I also checked my phone
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between somewhere between the second and third
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like on with like the hour fifteen
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it was like, Okay, we
I think we need to move on here,

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right, I get it now,
I've bought in. I want to

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get to this jumping off point,
Aquator. Is this better than twenty seventeen's

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Aquaman? I guess it is,
and we'll find out if it's better than

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the sequel pretty soon Halloween. Will
this wane over time for you? And

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I guess we need to see what
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point one movie. I also,
because it's so much build up, I

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don't know how often I'm gonna go
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never, or the first half of
this movie. But the last hour,

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hour fifteen of this is gonna be
super rewatchful. If someone could just put

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the last hour fifteen on YouTube,
I would rewatch that fucking on Twitter.

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Make sure you have a blue check
mark pants, tensity, excite, bike

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mania? What got you going from
this movie? And the visuals of the

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first ninety ish minutes to go along
with some of the battles, the worm

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riding, the anticipation, really,
you know, gave you a little blue

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balls, you know, riding up
to it the first movie, you know,

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blue balls at the end, but
you know this one, you're just

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sitting and waiting, and then the
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The whole movie, at least the
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movie is the fremen and talking about
this Messiah or they say muadib lisan al

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gaib, like these words that they're
tossing around that you don't even really understand

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what they're saying, but they're talking
about the Messiah and Paul's potential is that

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and even the Bennet jesuit talking about
the Quizat's hoterak like Paul's ascension into that

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role is what this movie is about. And the way it culminates in a

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couple of fantastic moments is so satisfying
in really great pants tense. It's just

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the payoff and the satisfaction was totally
worth the build up. And I can't

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underscore that enough. Like it.
It's so necessary to go through that first

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four hour journey for better or worse
to get the satisfaction over the final hour

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Max credit union. Who do you
give credit to? I will toss it

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at Greg Frasier For Denny Billina way, he's recently spoken about how he doesn't

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love dialogue in movies. I would
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another language. Have no subtitles on
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at the beginning in English anyways. So

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the visuals are just fun to look
at. Great visuals. My credit ghost

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at Timothy Shallowmey because and we've talked. We talked about this in the first

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movie and kind of alluded to it
here early on. I never thought I

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could believe him in this big,
badass role, like his leader of men,

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this messiah type of role, and
man, did he prove me wrong

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good. Like the moment in this
film when it flips, I was like,

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ah, this is awesome. Just
before that flip, I was saying

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to myself, I wish he is
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And then somehow when it happens,
the moment you fucking buy in and

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you're like, wow, I can't
believe him buying into this. Hot dogs,

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Hot dogs, for dude, Hot
sandy dogs. This is a journey.

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This is a five hour journey.
You need to include the first one.

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And it is a long one,
mac and you know it is daunting

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at times. It is Uh.
They spend a lot of time, a

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lot of meticulous time making sure that
everything is correct, all the visuals are

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perfect, and it completely pays off. I have Yes, it's long,

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but I have no complaints about any
of that. It looks beautiful. The

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acting is. While there are definitely
some standouts, I think there's no bad

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performances. There's no one that sticks
out and you're like, well, that

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guy sucks right right the direction I
think, uh, the director in general

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deserves a lot of credit for that, keeping everyone to exactly what they need

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to be And at the end of
this movie, it leaves you in the

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best possible way where you feel so
satisfied, but then you say, I

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have to wait two more years for
another one of these. There's so many

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different scenarios in my head right now
of where they could go with this,

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and I know that they're going to
pick a better one than what I can

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even think of. I don't always
think that way. I think that I'm

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smarter than most people and that I
could write a better script and do a

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better movie than most people. But
I have so much faith in this group

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that they'll do a better job than
me. The only two movies in recent

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memory that I have a similar feeling
to and This is more of a complete

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ending than those other two. Those
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Infinity War and Across the Spider Verse. At the end of those movies,

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the desire for more of that story
is comparable to what we get at the

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end of this movie. This also
does an amazing job of blending the movie

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going experience with cinema. That's a
really good point. It's a little bit

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the way Oppenheimer did it, where
it's cinema and acting and all these technical

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things that are done well but on
a big budget and deserves to be seen

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in a movie theater. It's wonderful. It's wonderful. It's a good word

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for it. MACKI you ready for
this? Yeah, this is my first

405
00:28:23.359 --> 00:28:33.640
ever one of these. I'm giving
it a soft forty coo. I just

406
00:28:33.720 --> 00:28:37.079
asked you three days ago, are
you giving this movie forty hot dogs?

407
00:28:37.160 --> 00:28:41.279
And You're like, Nope, definitely
not forty. I keep thinking about it,

408
00:28:41.279 --> 00:28:45.160
and I keep thinking about that final
hour, and it's like, that's

409
00:28:45.240 --> 00:28:49.599
perfect. And I accept the storytelling
and a little bit of like the pacing

410
00:28:49.640 --> 00:28:53.200
at the beginning to getting us there
because you need all of that. Because

411
00:28:53.599 --> 00:28:59.559
I love the fact that I didn't
buy into this guy I am. I'm

412
00:28:59.559 --> 00:29:02.759
one of those people where I'm like, I don't know if this guy's gonna

413
00:29:02.839 --> 00:29:07.799
lead, and I would follow them
anywhere. Now, I totally understand your

414
00:29:07.839 --> 00:29:12.119
reasoning for ask me next week if
I'm still forty and it's gonna change.

415
00:29:12.160 --> 00:29:17.240
I'm saying right now, Yeah,
it's the best movie I've seen in the

416
00:29:17.279 --> 00:29:23.960
last week. I I'm comparing it
to the recent forties. Like last year

417
00:29:25.000 --> 00:29:30.160
Oppenheimer in Spider Verse, I gave
forty. I like, definitively like those

418
00:29:30.200 --> 00:29:33.480
two movies more than I like this
movie, in part because there's so much

419
00:29:33.519 --> 00:29:37.920
build up. There's such a ramp
leading up for what happens in the final

420
00:29:37.960 --> 00:29:42.240
act of this movie, so I
can't. I just don't feel right giving

421
00:29:42.279 --> 00:29:48.200
it forty four hours of what this
movie is is it's just like clicklick click

422
00:29:48.200 --> 00:29:52.000
click click click click clickick. Right, It's that for two hours and then

423
00:29:52.000 --> 00:29:57.640
out of nowhere. I don't feel
like it deserves forty because you needed that.

424
00:29:57.759 --> 00:30:00.519
I don't know if it does either, like I might even look,

425
00:30:00.680 --> 00:30:03.559
it's probably closer to like a nine
point five or something like that, which

426
00:30:03.839 --> 00:30:07.440
that he goes up to like thirty
eight hot dogs. But I don't want

427
00:30:07.440 --> 00:30:11.200
to be on the wrong side of
history, all right, fair enough?

428
00:30:11.240 --> 00:30:15.400
Goo goo goo goo A yes,
Mac, you could have considered me and

429
00:30:15.599 --> 00:30:21.440
us a Dune skeptic coming off that
first movie, as we've talked about here,

430
00:30:22.079 --> 00:30:26.960
and I have loved literally everything else
Villaneuve has done other than the first

431
00:30:26.000 --> 00:30:29.920
Dune. I think my lowest rated
movie from him is a Rival, which

432
00:30:30.079 --> 00:30:33.359
was a fucking pretty fantastic movie.
I just felt like Dune fell short of

433
00:30:33.640 --> 00:30:38.920
expectations in what Villaneuve was capable of, so heading into this movie, there

434
00:30:38.960 --> 00:30:42.839
was like a lot of things this
movie was gonna have to accomplish and to

435
00:30:42.960 --> 00:30:48.599
deliver on for me to really like
love this movie gone a full buy in,

436
00:30:48.799 --> 00:30:52.160
That's the whole thing. And it
was not only the promise from the

437
00:30:52.240 --> 00:30:56.799
director, but these Dune people on
the internet like just you wait, like

438
00:30:56.880 --> 00:31:00.480
you'll see it's our friend Wesley Burough. Yeah he's one of them. No,

439
00:31:00.559 --> 00:31:06.200
but him retweeting all the people,
all the critics being like, this

440
00:31:06.319 --> 00:31:07.720
is the best movie ever, and
I'm like, let's all chill out.

441
00:31:07.720 --> 00:31:11.319
And then you see it and you
say they might not be wrong. Yeah,

442
00:31:11.559 --> 00:31:15.200
there's like ninety five percent of the
time when someone's like, just you

443
00:31:15.279 --> 00:31:18.799
wait, it's never worth it.
This is one of the five percent of

444
00:31:18.839 --> 00:31:22.279
the times where it was totally worth
it. So I am happy to report

445
00:31:22.319 --> 00:31:26.200
that it delivers on everything that it
promised, everything that it's supposed to be.

446
00:31:26.880 --> 00:31:32.240
The story with like all these galactic
houses sort of pushing and pulling against

447
00:31:32.240 --> 00:31:36.680
each other is like simple to grasp
once you get over the first movie.

448
00:31:36.720 --> 00:31:38.920
Like, once you have seen the
first movie, you now understand which and

449
00:31:38.920 --> 00:31:42.839
they put this all pretty much on
one planet. Yeah, so that's I'll

450
00:31:42.839 --> 00:31:45.920
get into that a little bit too. But that simple story of just like

451
00:31:45.960 --> 00:31:49.279
the seven houses pushing and pulling on
each other, it is easy to grasp.

452
00:31:49.720 --> 00:31:53.319
And then you mix that in with
like the fantasy and sci fi elements,

453
00:31:53.519 --> 00:31:56.279
it's awesome. Like you have like
the Witch type stuff, game of

454
00:31:57.200 --> 00:32:01.319
Intergalactic more of the rain. I
just love messing around in this universe.

455
00:32:01.400 --> 00:32:06.440
Now, granted, and this is
I actually do think it's a detriment.

456
00:32:06.799 --> 00:32:08.720
Now you have to do it because
there's no other way to buy into the

457
00:32:08.720 --> 00:32:15.039
story. But taking over four hours
of setup is like it has to be

458
00:32:15.160 --> 00:32:19.000
talked about. You need the four
hours of setup to become invested in the

459
00:32:19.039 --> 00:32:22.880
story and then everything that's about to
happen and to me, and this is

460
00:32:22.920 --> 00:32:28.279
why we love movies. Gou to
me the best stories, the best movies.

461
00:32:28.279 --> 00:32:30.720
You can get in and out in
two hours. Now, I'll watch

462
00:32:30.720 --> 00:32:31.839
a three hour movie. I'll watch
a five hour movie. Fine, a

463
00:32:31.839 --> 00:32:36.160
half hour movie like these two are. But I don't know if that makes

464
00:32:36.200 --> 00:32:38.119
it better. Some might say,
oh, it's so dense, it's so

465
00:32:38.240 --> 00:32:44.000
in depth that you that's why it's
better. I don't necessarily disagree that said,

466
00:32:44.680 --> 00:32:47.319
after all this build up and this
payoff, the spot that we're left

467
00:32:47.359 --> 00:32:53.359
in at the end of this movie
is very satisfying and simultaneously you're wanting more.

468
00:32:53.400 --> 00:32:58.559
You're wanting to see what happens next. So all of that is like

469
00:32:58.960 --> 00:33:06.200
not even considering the visuals the score, which the score was amazing. Yeah,

470
00:33:06.319 --> 00:33:08.000
I think the visuals in the score
you could have a conversation about them

471
00:33:08.359 --> 00:33:12.720
sound as well. So like,
yeah, we recommend this see this in

472
00:33:12.759 --> 00:33:17.759
the biggest theater you possibly can and
try and sit on a speaker like you're

473
00:33:17.799 --> 00:33:22.480
listening to Howard Stern in private.
Yeah, the theater we saw it,

474
00:33:22.559 --> 00:33:28.240
and it had like the full surrounds
the seats were fucking rumbling. But again,

475
00:33:28.279 --> 00:33:30.759
my main knock on it, and
this is what I think keeps it

476
00:33:30.759 --> 00:33:35.079
out of the forty dog range is
because it's so much build up. To

477
00:33:35.160 --> 00:33:37.440
me, that's a bit of a
flawed story, not a massive flaw.

478
00:33:37.519 --> 00:33:40.920
It's just a small flaw that keeps
it out of the conversation of like best

479
00:33:40.920 --> 00:33:45.559
ever. It's just a slight tier
below. But like, if you stick

480
00:33:45.599 --> 00:33:49.079
all that out, you benefit big
time, like the viewer benefits big time,

481
00:33:49.119 --> 00:33:51.680
as as we did and as we're
talking about so go, I have

482
00:33:51.759 --> 00:33:58.559
this at thirty nine hot dogs,
just one step below nine. It's the

483
00:33:58.599 --> 00:34:01.599
early socks, early leader of the
clubhouse for best movie of twenty twenty four.

484
00:34:01.839 --> 00:34:06.240
Now I've only seen six, but
it is definitively it's like two tiers

485
00:34:06.240 --> 00:34:08.960
above anything else I've seen this year
so far. Certainly in the conversation for

486
00:34:09.000 --> 00:34:13.320
greatest sequel of all time. Probably
isn't one, two or three, but

487
00:34:13.400 --> 00:34:16.159
it's in the conversation. It's also
not my favorite Villaneuve movie. Actually,

488
00:34:16.239 --> 00:34:20.880
I have Blade Runner ahead of it, which is a fucking masterpiece that's a

489
00:34:20.920 --> 00:34:23.159
forty dogger. I also have Prisoners
ahead of this. Goup which is like

490
00:34:23.199 --> 00:34:27.679
a borderline forty dogger. I also
think Prisoners is the most underrated movie of

491
00:34:27.679 --> 00:34:30.159
the last fifteen years, So if
you haven't seen Prisoners, go fucking watch

492
00:34:30.239 --> 00:34:34.239
that. But I do have this
above Arrival, and it might be above

493
00:34:34.280 --> 00:34:37.519
Ciicario too. This is Cacario or
sort of back and forth for that third

494
00:34:37.519 --> 00:34:43.360
spot. But this movie, you
and I are echoing the same sentiment here,

495
00:34:43.800 --> 00:34:47.840
coming into it not really expecting forty
dogs, but expecting it to be

496
00:34:47.880 --> 00:34:52.679
better than the first and then it
approaching forty dogs. Is why this walking

497
00:34:52.679 --> 00:34:58.639
away us feeling as this movie made
me like the first one more. I

498
00:34:58.719 --> 00:35:01.039
don't agree with you on that.
That's probably the difference between the thirty nine

499
00:35:01.079 --> 00:35:05.079
and the forty. Right here,
it almost makes me like the first one

500
00:35:05.159 --> 00:35:07.679
less because I felt like you still
could have done some fantastical elements in the

501
00:35:07.679 --> 00:35:10.800
first one, and they didn't really
do it. They kept it pretty subdued.

502
00:35:10.840 --> 00:35:14.840
They needed Paul to be a boy
in the first one, and now

503
00:35:14.880 --> 00:35:17.239
he's but he's not really like he's
only a boy in the first act of

504
00:35:17.239 --> 00:35:21.880
that movie, like he progresses pretty
fucking quickly, not as quickly, not

505
00:35:22.119 --> 00:35:27.039
that quickly like boy. And then
his voice started to change and now he's

506
00:35:27.079 --> 00:35:30.840
a man. So before we get
into full spoilers here, we'll run through

507
00:35:30.880 --> 00:35:35.800
the quick recap of the first movie
and what's happened in this universe, so

508
00:35:35.960 --> 00:35:39.119
pre Dune. Pre in that first
movie, there was a massive war between

509
00:35:39.199 --> 00:35:44.039
man and machine, with man winning, and it basically meant that all like

510
00:35:44.239 --> 00:35:47.840
machine AI technology became taboo. That's
why you don't really see that in this

511
00:35:47.960 --> 00:35:52.039
universe. You just see people with
some of those abilities, but you don't

512
00:35:52.039 --> 00:35:55.679
see droids like you have in Star
Wars. Spice is the most valuable resource

513
00:35:57.000 --> 00:36:00.639
in this universe because that's what powers
like the galaxy ships and how they get

514
00:36:00.639 --> 00:36:05.880
from point A to point B and
whatnot. And spice is only found on

515
00:36:05.960 --> 00:36:10.000
Aracus. That's why this story is
set on one planet, and the people

516
00:36:10.039 --> 00:36:14.320
of Aracus, the Fremen, used
to call the planet Dune. That's why

517
00:36:14.360 --> 00:36:16.800
it's called Dune. At the beginning
of the first movie, the Emperor takes

518
00:36:16.840 --> 00:36:22.119
the planet of Aracus away from House
Hearkening and awards the planet to House of

519
00:36:22.199 --> 00:36:24.519
Trades, but this all ends up
being a ploy to get the Duke and

520
00:36:24.559 --> 00:36:30.440
his family on Arakis to have them
killed. That plan was a simultaneous plan

521
00:36:30.719 --> 00:36:36.800
between Mother Moheim, Jessica's mother,
Paul's grandmother, and the Emperor. Ultimately,

522
00:36:36.840 --> 00:36:39.360
obviously Paul and Jessica escape into the
desert and meet up with the Fremen,

523
00:36:39.440 --> 00:36:44.159
and we basically get it to be
continued, which picks up right where

524
00:36:44.159 --> 00:36:47.119
this movie leads into. Also credit
is Zendaia. We haven't mentioned Zendia really

525
00:36:47.159 --> 00:36:52.320
at all, great point, which
is great she so I forgot his name,

526
00:36:52.360 --> 00:36:57.960
sorry, Harvier bardem As Stilgar stands
out. Obviously, Timothy Shallome still

527
00:36:58.079 --> 00:37:01.320
stands out. Zindeia is maybe the
best character in the whole movie. And

528
00:37:01.360 --> 00:37:06.280
also you know that she's gonna play
the biggest part moving forward. So we

529
00:37:06.320 --> 00:37:09.159
were talking about this on the way
out of the theater. The spoiler's spoiler,

530
00:37:09.239 --> 00:37:14.519
yeah, spoiler spoilers, spoiler spoiler
alerts. The love triangle that is

531
00:37:14.559 --> 00:37:17.800
coming up, presumably in the third
movie based on the book Dune Messiah,

532
00:37:19.159 --> 00:37:24.159
between Florence Hugh's character Princess Erolin Shanni
and Paul is like super intriguing, like

533
00:37:24.199 --> 00:37:29.159
I really know until that plays out
to the point of you know that one

534
00:37:29.199 --> 00:37:32.039
of them is either gonna kill another
one or kill two of them, and

535
00:37:32.159 --> 00:37:36.719
I wouldn't be surprised if it's Zendia
Zendea Zindia. I don't want to mess

536
00:37:36.760 --> 00:37:40.199
Adia Zendeia of I believe that she's
gonna be the one that kills Paul.

537
00:37:40.480 --> 00:37:44.239
Keep us in mind. Also,
I know nothing of the books. Yeah,

538
00:37:44.280 --> 00:37:46.639
I don't plan on looking at the
books. I think she's gonna kill

539
00:37:46.679 --> 00:37:52.800
Paul and then Anya Taylor Joy is
the actual chosen one. Yeah. So

540
00:37:52.960 --> 00:37:55.679
one of the major things in this
movie is we figure out I don't I

541
00:37:55.719 --> 00:37:59.159
don't think we know this in the
first movie. I think we figured it

542
00:37:59.159 --> 00:38:02.159
out at the beginning of this movie
is Jessica is pregnant with a daughter,

543
00:38:02.440 --> 00:38:07.960
and both Jessica and Paul can somehow
communicate, almost like an immaculate reception.

544
00:38:08.079 --> 00:38:12.400
They could communicate with the daughter,
sister in the womb, who will be

545
00:38:12.480 --> 00:38:15.519
played by Anya Taylor Joy in the
next movie. So there's obviously gonna be

546
00:38:15.559 --> 00:38:17.719
a time jump between the end of
this in the beginning of the third movie.

547
00:38:17.760 --> 00:38:21.079
But she's also a talking fetus,
so maybe she can just grow up

548
00:38:21.079 --> 00:38:22.840
in a desk talking fetus. We
did get her in like one dream scene.

549
00:38:22.880 --> 00:38:28.079
She really just stares, but that
was surprising to see her get cast

550
00:38:28.159 --> 00:38:31.199
and then like she's pretty much not
in the movie at all. So I'll

551
00:38:31.239 --> 00:38:35.440
run through I kind of have this
in chronological order here, just you could

552
00:38:35.480 --> 00:38:38.079
just chime in one thing, babe. So the first half of this movie

553
00:38:38.199 --> 00:38:43.320
is much of a continuation as a
third act from the first movie. It's

554
00:38:43.599 --> 00:38:49.280
a journey of Paul both fulfilling his
destiny and also ingratiating himself with the Fremen.

555
00:38:49.760 --> 00:38:53.800
So the Fremen are the people of
Aracus of Doune. The people of

556
00:38:53.800 --> 00:38:59.400
the north are more of these like
rebellious freedom fighters led by Stillgar He's one

557
00:38:59.400 --> 00:39:01.119
of the leaders there. The people
in the South, which we don't get

558
00:39:01.159 --> 00:39:06.559
mentioned in the first movie, we
discover here that they're more like religious extremists

559
00:39:06.920 --> 00:39:10.440
who don't have much contact with like
any other like outside people. They are

560
00:39:10.480 --> 00:39:15.480
sheep waiting for a shepherd. They
are waiting for their messiah, so they

561
00:39:15.519 --> 00:39:20.360
are much more ready to buy into
this idea of Paul as the Messiah.

562
00:39:20.679 --> 00:39:22.840
One of the big things that happens
in the in the first or second act

563
00:39:22.880 --> 00:39:27.880
of this movie goo is Margot Fenriggs. She's the one played by leahs Adu.

564
00:39:28.559 --> 00:39:32.599
She gets impregnated by fade Ratha played
by Austin Butler, and she purposely

565
00:39:32.679 --> 00:39:37.199
has or is gonna have a daughter. And the whole she's a Benet Jesuit,

566
00:39:37.239 --> 00:39:39.079
And the whole Bennet Jesuit thing is
it's supposed to be a girl,

567
00:39:39.119 --> 00:39:44.719
supposed to be a daughter. And
that's why Moheim is pissed at Jessica and

568
00:39:44.800 --> 00:39:49.119
Paul because she doesn't want a male
to like take on that role. So

569
00:39:49.199 --> 00:39:52.239
that's a big thing. Also that's
going to play into the next movie,

570
00:39:52.239 --> 00:39:55.800
presumably because that child is gonna be
about the same age as Paul's sister,

571
00:39:57.199 --> 00:40:00.679
and so those two are going to
play a massive role, you think going

572
00:40:00.719 --> 00:40:05.519
forward. But I am a little
worried in the sense that there's so much

573
00:40:05.599 --> 00:40:08.480
that I'm looking forward to in this
universe, but they're gonna like automatically have

574
00:40:08.599 --> 00:40:12.239
to do like a fifteen year time
jump for the next movie, which,

575
00:40:12.320 --> 00:40:15.119
like I said, I think that
they're gonna nail this. Yeah, at

576
00:40:15.119 --> 00:40:20.400
this point, there's no reason to
think they won't. Jessica becomes the Reverend

577
00:40:20.400 --> 00:40:22.760
mother of the Fremen after drinking the
blue worm. Piss I just I had

578
00:40:22.760 --> 00:40:24.840
a little fun with the worm piss. I like that it's warm, piss

579
00:40:24.840 --> 00:40:29.360
didn't bother me. And that's a
little like Star Wars like thing too,

580
00:40:29.440 --> 00:40:32.360
Like they have quirky shit like that. Yeah, Princess Aralon has been groomed

581
00:40:32.400 --> 00:40:37.760
by Mother Moheim presumably this whole time, to position herself either next to Paul,

582
00:40:38.039 --> 00:40:43.639
which is a possibility, or next
to fade Ratha. So in Moheim's

583
00:40:44.039 --> 00:40:46.079
eyes, like she's gonna win either
way because she's been grooming her the whole

584
00:40:46.119 --> 00:40:50.840
time. And again, Moheim's the
one that orchestrated the assault on House of

585
00:40:50.880 --> 00:40:54.639
Trades in the first place and unbannounced
to pretty much everyone. She knows that

586
00:40:54.639 --> 00:40:58.840
the emperor is gonna be displaced either
way, so she's got her hands in

587
00:40:58.960 --> 00:41:02.079
everything here. This really, this
movie really underscores that the Bene Jesuit are

588
00:41:02.079 --> 00:41:06.320
in charge of everything, Like even
if it doesn't work out in the moment,

589
00:41:06.360 --> 00:41:08.000
they're playing in the long game,
they're not they're not really concerned about

590
00:41:08.039 --> 00:41:14.480
the in between. About halfway through
the movie, fade Ratha replaces his brother

591
00:41:14.519 --> 00:41:19.159
beast Robin as the governor of Iracus, And I you know what, the

592
00:41:19.199 --> 00:41:24.360
one character I've been a little disappointed
with is Dave Batis's Beast Rabon Robin Rabon,

593
00:41:24.960 --> 00:41:28.480
He's like, he doesn't do anything
cool at all in either of these

594
00:41:30.079 --> 00:41:34.639
He looks cool, he just doesn't
do actutely ship too. The biggest moment

595
00:41:34.719 --> 00:41:37.679
coup here, and this is what
leads into the final hour of the movie

596
00:41:37.719 --> 00:41:42.920
and the first major pants tent for
me, is when Paul ascends to this

597
00:41:43.079 --> 00:41:46.039
Messiah role in the right before like
when he drinks the piss and then he

598
00:41:46.159 --> 00:41:52.199
has but like leading into that church
temple scene, when when he walks into

599
00:41:52.239 --> 00:41:55.599
that church, yes, before he
even says anything, just the way he

600
00:41:55.679 --> 00:41:59.119
walks through the crowds. In the
middle of it, You're like, oh,

601
00:41:59.199 --> 00:42:04.599
this is like it's happening, Like
I'm no buying to him at all.

602
00:42:04.840 --> 00:42:07.119
I was like, Okay, this
is pretty good. He's he's learning

603
00:42:07.159 --> 00:42:09.639
the way and everything else. But
then once we go into that church,

604
00:42:10.320 --> 00:42:15.159
I am completely like this was perfect
casting. You nailed this. The way

605
00:42:15.360 --> 00:42:24.519
he transitions his acting from like lover
boy and just attached to Shanni and the

606
00:42:24.559 --> 00:42:30.639
Fremen and transitions to like this messiah
role, it's so like, I don't

607
00:42:30.639 --> 00:42:35.280
know how many actors can do that. It's a small switch. He flips

608
00:42:35.320 --> 00:42:38.679
and it's not this big manic thing
he does. Whatever switchy flipped was fucking

609
00:42:38.760 --> 00:42:44.239
perfect because when he gives that speech
as the Messiah and the Temple, You're

610
00:42:44.320 --> 00:42:45.800
like, oh, fuck, like, I'm ready to go to war with

611
00:42:45.840 --> 00:42:51.440
this guy. I'm ready for it. I'm actually believing I don't yeah right,

612
00:42:51.519 --> 00:42:54.000
like I somehow I'm on board here. And that's because of all that

613
00:42:54.039 --> 00:42:59.920
build up and a lot it's actually
because of Timothy Shallowy, Like Timothy shallow

614
00:43:00.199 --> 00:43:02.679
is the reason why that scene works
and why that that switch flip works,

615
00:43:04.119 --> 00:43:07.119
And I just don't know how many
actors can pull that off these days,

616
00:43:07.119 --> 00:43:10.719
and that's why he gets my credit. Another major moment in this movie is

617
00:43:10.760 --> 00:43:15.440
we find out that Paul's mother,
Jessica, is actually the daughter of Baron

618
00:43:15.519 --> 00:43:20.559
Harkinin And we find that out because
Paul drinks the worm piss and becomes all

619
00:43:20.639 --> 00:43:25.039
seeing and he's also are like yeah
whatever, like they find out. He

620
00:43:25.079 --> 00:43:29.599
even says like, oh, you're
my cousin, right all rights before,

621
00:43:29.760 --> 00:43:31.679
So now we find out. And
this is why Paul is such a central

622
00:43:31.760 --> 00:43:36.400
character in the main character of this
whole story. Not only is the the

623
00:43:36.679 --> 00:43:42.480
Duke of uh the treads family now
the Duke of Iracus. He is beny

624
00:43:42.559 --> 00:43:45.559
Jesuit because of his mother, and
he is also in the Hearkening blood line,

625
00:43:45.920 --> 00:43:49.599
so he has a little piece all
over the place, and it like

626
00:43:49.679 --> 00:43:52.880
makes him so central on so many
levels. So again, you know,

627
00:43:53.079 --> 00:43:55.880
once he gets to that temple is
where things kick up and where we first

628
00:43:55.880 --> 00:44:00.679
truly believe him. And then when
they like plan out this massive attack on

629
00:44:00.719 --> 00:44:05.679
the emperor and his emperor's people in
the middle of the desert there, it's

630
00:44:05.800 --> 00:44:09.440
fucking awesome. Like that is one
of those moments where because four hours of

631
00:44:09.440 --> 00:44:13.719
build up has happened, you just
sort of get to turn off your brain

632
00:44:13.880 --> 00:44:16.800
and watch the next hour without thinking
much. And it's a full pants tent

633
00:44:16.920 --> 00:44:22.360
for like the full hour. So
Paul kills the baron in that Emperor's little

634
00:44:22.400 --> 00:44:25.800
lair and then he ends up dueling
fade Ratha in that like Fremen cave,

635
00:44:27.239 --> 00:44:30.119
and it's such an awesome It's a
simple fight, but it's such an awesome

636
00:44:30.239 --> 00:44:35.960
fight metaphorically and what happens there,
and I love how it all plays out.

637
00:44:36.400 --> 00:44:40.440
And obviously they're fighting right there,
but eralon on one side and Shining

638
00:44:40.519 --> 00:44:45.159
on one side, like seeing everything
come together. It's just there's so many

639
00:44:45.199 --> 00:44:50.079
things happening there that is unsaid to
villain news point that you don't need all

640
00:44:50.119 --> 00:44:52.719
the dialogue, like your audience can
read into what's happening, and that that's

641
00:44:52.760 --> 00:44:57.239
my favorite scene to the movie.
The temple scene's amazing and what gets me

642
00:44:57.280 --> 00:45:00.440
to buy in, but the fight, the duel between him and faith Ratha

643
00:45:00.519 --> 00:45:04.559
in that little cave mountain, it's
such an awesome scene on so many levels.

644
00:45:04.840 --> 00:45:09.440
And then you also have Gurney killing
Robin like as the Hearkening is trying

645
00:45:09.440 --> 00:45:14.159
to flee the planet. And then
following the duel, Paul makes the Emperor

646
00:45:14.239 --> 00:45:16.239
kiss his feet, which is just
an awesome like a kiss the rings type

647
00:45:16.239 --> 00:45:21.679
of thing, and aral On promises
to take Paul's hand if he spares the

648
00:45:21.679 --> 00:45:25.480
Emperor's life. And then the good
lead in to the next movie or the

649
00:45:25.480 --> 00:45:30.360
next actions in this universe is that
the other six or seven houses refuse to

650
00:45:30.440 --> 00:45:37.920
recognize Paula Trady's ascension into this messiah
emperor role, and so they're basically implying

651
00:45:37.960 --> 00:45:42.400
that this holy war has begun between
all of these houses, and like that's

652
00:45:42.440 --> 00:45:45.719
a brand new hole intriguing thing.
That we can play with. And also

653
00:45:45.800 --> 00:45:50.159
it really is when Josh Brolin gets
into this movie, that's when it's kicked

654
00:45:50.239 --> 00:45:52.400
up to that whole new notch right
there, because it's, you know,

655
00:45:52.440 --> 00:45:57.920
it's semi sainsy for a lot of
the first part of him trying to get

656
00:45:57.920 --> 00:46:00.920
these people behind him. But then
once in there, that's when the war

657
00:46:01.000 --> 00:46:06.119
begins. That's when he really takes
that next step into being the man.

658
00:46:06.480 --> 00:46:09.920
It's almost like, and you've already
said this, but like Stillgar and Gurney

659
00:46:10.159 --> 00:46:14.400
he said they prop him up.
It's almost like it's they're the two people

660
00:46:14.440 --> 00:46:19.000
on his shoulders. One's his confidence, like Gurney's like his confidence and figuring

661
00:46:19.039 --> 00:46:22.719
out like where he's gonna be,
and then still Guar's like his subconscious almost

662
00:46:22.800 --> 00:46:25.360
you know. But also it's it's
almost like at one point he had kind

663
00:46:25.400 --> 00:46:29.880
of forgotten who he was or who
he came he was trained to be,

664
00:46:30.079 --> 00:46:34.159
and then once he's like, Okay, I forgot about my father, I

665
00:46:34.239 --> 00:46:38.199
forgot about my family. My family
is here now and I need to step

666
00:46:38.320 --> 00:46:42.119
up and do what I need to
do. And the way that Zendaia then

667
00:46:42.199 --> 00:46:45.400
transitions once Brolin comes into it,
like it's such a subdued thing. But

668
00:46:45.519 --> 00:46:50.519
like the way the way she starts
looking at him and her actions, it's

669
00:46:50.599 --> 00:46:55.519
just it's so good like it this
movie is relies so heavily on the moments

670
00:46:55.599 --> 00:47:01.119
between Zendia and Timothy Shallomey, and
they play it absolutely perfectly. It like

671
00:47:01.440 --> 00:47:05.400
you could not have casted it better, they could not have acted it better.

672
00:47:05.719 --> 00:47:07.960
Because for a moment, there's there's
a there's a budding romance in the

673
00:47:08.079 --> 00:47:13.679
in this movie, and it's for
probably forty five minutes. It's so heavy

674
00:47:13.719 --> 00:47:17.719
on just those two, but what's
happening between just those two means so much

675
00:47:17.800 --> 00:47:21.960
for the rest of the universe,
and it's just it's just incredibly well done.

676
00:47:22.000 --> 00:47:23.960
There's a forty five minute stretch where
it's like a coming of age rom

677
00:47:24.039 --> 00:47:30.800
com and still guards just hang out
in the back like see told you,

678
00:47:30.119 --> 00:47:35.960
Yeah, I'll sacrifice my life for
you. And also like Rebecca Ferguson does

679
00:47:35.960 --> 00:47:40.199
an amazing job in this, like
you don't really realize that she has ulterior

680
00:47:40.320 --> 00:47:46.000
motives until way too far into this
movie. She seems like almost like a

681
00:47:46.800 --> 00:47:50.639
subdued like fine, I'll do it. I'm just gonna do it because I'm

682
00:47:50.639 --> 00:47:52.760
here my son's here. But then
once she drinks that worm piss, you

683
00:47:52.840 --> 00:47:55.960
realize like, oh, she's kind
of a bad lady, like she's gonna

684
00:47:57.239 --> 00:48:01.239
yeah, she was just doing it
for her son. And then during the

685
00:48:01.320 --> 00:48:04.880
duel. This is why the duel
is my favorite scene of the movie,

686
00:48:05.079 --> 00:48:07.239
her looking over at her mother and
being like, fucking told you so,

687
00:48:07.440 --> 00:48:10.519
pick the wrong side, asshole.
That great. It also sucked for her

688
00:48:10.599 --> 00:48:14.199
is that she fell asleep at a
party with her shoes on, so they

689
00:48:14.559 --> 00:48:21.320
over. Oh man, this is
every fucking character, whether they had two

690
00:48:21.400 --> 00:48:24.320
minutes or twenty on screen of this
movie just fucking crushed it, absolutely crushed

691
00:48:24.360 --> 00:48:27.880
it. Do you want to change
your hot Dog score? No? No

692
00:48:28.039 --> 00:48:31.400
again. I still it's hard for
me to because Goo, if you're trying

693
00:48:31.440 --> 00:48:36.960
to sell someone in Dune Part two, you have to tell them listen.

694
00:48:37.519 --> 00:48:40.320
I know not much is gonna happen
for four hours, but the fifth hour

695
00:48:40.440 --> 00:48:44.440
is so amazing that you need to
watch the four hours. Like, to

696
00:48:44.480 --> 00:48:47.320
me, that just knocks them down
just slightly. I would say, how

697
00:48:47.360 --> 00:48:51.760
long do you sit on the toilet
for at a time? Can you get

698
00:48:51.760 --> 00:48:53.639
it on your phone? Can you
watch the first movie on your phone?

699
00:48:54.199 --> 00:48:59.159
Because that's what I did. Listen. I don't want to be criticized because

700
00:48:59.159 --> 00:49:01.440
I didn't say it's one of the
greatest movies of all time. Attack just

701
00:49:01.440 --> 00:49:05.000
a tear below that. It's just
a tear below that. For me.

702
00:49:05.360 --> 00:49:07.920
I loved it. It's one of
the best movies in the last twenty years

703
00:49:07.920 --> 00:49:10.960
for sure. Yeah, I loved
it. It's a great movie, fantastic

704
00:49:12.000 --> 00:49:14.880
movie. I can't wait to rewatch
the last hour. I can't wait for

705
00:49:14.880 --> 00:49:17.800
the next movie. Yes, I
cannot wait that as well. I might

706
00:49:17.800 --> 00:49:22.679
be one of those people now that
follows it on social media and just picks

707
00:49:22.760 --> 00:49:28.239
up every little grubby detail. I'm
actually very much looking forward to the New

708
00:49:28.320 --> 00:49:30.920
rock Stars breakdown of this movie because
I'm sure they're gonna point out shit that

709
00:49:30.920 --> 00:49:36.039
we've missed. But also, listen
to me right now, if something happened

710
00:49:36.079 --> 00:49:38.119
in the books, I don't care. Don't tell me yeah, or tell

711
00:49:38.159 --> 00:49:42.159
me. I'm gonna forget about it. I am here for the movies.

712
00:49:42.559 --> 00:49:45.119
I don't care about that. But
again, a big reason why the first

713
00:49:45.119 --> 00:49:47.400
movie doesn't work too is because we
didn't know anything about the universe, and

714
00:49:47.400 --> 00:49:51.920
you kind of needed to know a
little bit leading into that movie Spice World,

715
00:49:52.239 --> 00:50:08.119
tell me what you want. Let's
get into maxat Ma maxa could be

716
00:50:08.159 --> 00:50:10.599
anything, that could be a boat
and Mac, did you see this?

717
00:50:10.800 --> 00:50:16.159
But my son boom roasted you.
I'll tell you your son has a clear

718
00:50:16.239 --> 00:50:21.440
future in comedy based off of this
one joke. Pretty incredible. So my

719
00:50:21.559 --> 00:50:25.519
wife and my son for my birthday
got me a personalized funk copop where it

720
00:50:25.519 --> 00:50:30.320
says goo on the box. Yeah. And what my son did is he

721
00:50:30.320 --> 00:50:32.280
took it out of the box and
he's playing with it, and he realized

722
00:50:32.320 --> 00:50:36.960
that you could take the hair off. And what he did was he looked

723
00:50:37.000 --> 00:50:39.079
at it with the hair on.
He looked daddy. Then he popped the

724
00:50:39.119 --> 00:50:45.079
hair off. Mac. He's not
wrong, No, he's not wrong.

725
00:50:45.239 --> 00:50:47.599
People have said this is that we
are two white guys who have a podcast.

726
00:50:47.719 --> 00:50:51.840
One has hair, one doesn't.
The best part of the whole thing

727
00:50:51.960 --> 00:50:54.079
is like he understands what he's saying
too. When he pops the hair off,

728
00:50:54.119 --> 00:50:57.280
he's laughing. Oh yeah. He
thought it was the funniest thing ever.

729
00:50:57.400 --> 00:51:00.880
I thought it was hilarious. And
then people have complained to me,

730
00:51:00.960 --> 00:51:04.800
being like, why doesn't that funk
you have a mustache? Apparently, as

731
00:51:04.840 --> 00:51:07.960
of last week or two weeks ago, they didn't have that feature on there,

732
00:51:07.000 --> 00:51:12.159
and they have it now. Wow, so someone's getting some emails.

733
00:51:12.239 --> 00:51:15.360
Fun Co is getting some emails be
like, Hey, my husband needs a

734
00:51:15.400 --> 00:51:17.840
mustache. You can get on there
with a little nail polish. I was

735
00:51:17.880 --> 00:51:21.280
gonna to know that was my first
thought. But now that I know that

736
00:51:21.280 --> 00:51:24.119
it's a possibility, I want you
to send me a mustache and brown hair.

737
00:51:24.159 --> 00:51:27.480
I don't have black hair. Oh
they didn't have brown hair either.

738
00:51:27.920 --> 00:51:30.679
I don't know if someone just overlooked
that or don't or they don't know what

739
00:51:30.719 --> 00:51:35.760
color my hair is. But I
would also like brown hair. Yeah,

740
00:51:35.840 --> 00:51:38.719
I was a brown hair boy when
I had hair. Who brown hair?

741
00:51:40.159 --> 00:51:45.280
The brown hair? All right,
that'll do it for this podcast. I

742
00:51:45.280 --> 00:51:49.280
have hazel eyes. Most people say
about us, they say that it's two

743
00:51:49.280 --> 00:51:52.840
white guys in a podcast, hazel
eyes and hair no hair. That's I'll

744
00:51:52.880 --> 00:51:57.760
tell you. If this doesn't work
out with the movies and television, we'll

745
00:51:57.800 --> 00:52:00.679
just start talking about stuff and our
podcast will be two guys with hazel lies.

746
00:52:01.239 --> 00:52:05.039
If anyone wants to, and I'm
looking at you, the other Billy

747
00:52:05.079 --> 00:52:07.159
d If you can cut off the
top of my head the top of max

748
00:52:07.239 --> 00:52:15.199
ad and flip them. I bet
we can't tell who's who. H We're

749
00:52:15.239 --> 00:52:17.079
both gonna look terrible. I probably
wouldn't know. It's like when you switch

750
00:52:17.119 --> 00:52:21.960
people around, you're like, tell
me who the right person is? Now,

751
00:52:22.760 --> 00:52:28.480
I don't know that game. It's
in every cartoon where Canna people find

752
00:52:28.559 --> 00:52:30.199
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753
00:52:30.280 --> 00:52:35.639
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754
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755
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756
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757
00:52:47.639 --> 00:52:51.440
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759
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760
00:53:00.519 --> 00:53:02.280
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761
00:53:02.280 --> 00:53:09.519
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762
00:53:09.519 --> 00:53:14.760
dot Com merger. Check us out
at the beginning of next week for our

763
00:53:15.280 --> 00:53:21.199
movie draft. At the end of
it, are you gonna are we gonna

764
00:53:21.239 --> 00:53:25.000
record that live or you're gonna edit
that video. I'm probably gonna record it

765
00:53:25.039 --> 00:53:29.039
and then post it after. I
was gonna say, uh, it might

766
00:53:29.119 --> 00:53:31.639
just be worth recording live because with
a four way it might get fucked up

767
00:53:31.639 --> 00:53:36.320
anyways, So it's not recording live. You mean you like you want me

768
00:53:36.400 --> 00:53:38.280
to stream it live. That's what
I'm talking about yet, because recording it

769
00:53:38.320 --> 00:53:42.159
live is what I do. I'm
recording it live right now. Yeah,

770
00:53:40.960 --> 00:53:45.000
yeah, No, I mean I
mean the video portion. How doing this?

771
00:53:45.840 --> 00:53:50.000
If I get one tweet, if
I get one email saying put it

772
00:53:50.039 --> 00:53:52.599
live, I'll fucking do it live. I don't really care either way.

773
00:53:52.599 --> 00:53:54.360
I'm just thinking you won't be able
to edit the video much because it'll probably

774
00:53:54.400 --> 00:53:58.360
suck. So no, I know, I don't really edit the videos.

775
00:53:58.400 --> 00:54:01.079
What I do is I just put
them out like a half an hour after

776
00:54:01.119 --> 00:54:06.039
the audio's out. If it affects
the audio quality, then forget what I

777
00:54:06.079 --> 00:54:07.920
think. It affects the visuals a
little bit like it isn't as crisp,

778
00:54:08.280 --> 00:54:13.760
gotcha, all right, We'll see
whatever next week. That and goofy vaults

779
00:54:13.800 --> 00:54:19.760
so thank you for joining us Tuesdays
or Tuesdays, I abuse kangaroos. Bye.

780
00:54:23.360 --> 00:54:28.639
Please flip the cassette over to side
B to continue the adventure Gueter Dune