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Karen. Yes, would you like
to learn to work with higher consciousness and

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connect the greater aspects of yourself?
Oh? Yeah, Well, then how

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about discovering and learning how to work
directly with your energetic anatomy like your chakras

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and the aura. Oh I would
like that too, Okay, Nope,

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how about accessing inner peace and calm
and strengthening your resiliency in the face of

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everyday challenges. Yes to all of
that. Then you must surely be interested

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in awakening to your true essence and
in empowering your own self healing ability and

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learn how to work with others on
their healing journey. Yes. Well,

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on this episode, we're going to
dive into a healing modality that claims to

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integrate science into energy healing. That's
right up your alley, Right up my

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alley, and we're going to chat
with one of the founders of Field Dynamics

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and learn all about this brand new
modern healing modality that is sweeping the world.

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This one may just change the world, and we're giving you a front

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row seat here on the Skeptic Metaphysicians. My name is Will and I'm Karen.

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Unlike Boulder and Scully, both want
to believe. Embarked in a journey

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of discovery. We've talked to people
deeply entrenched in the spiritual and metaphysical world.

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We've thrown ourselves into weird and wonderful
experiences. I even joined a coven

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of witches and wait, you joined
a coven yep, all in the interest

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of finding something, anything, that
will prove that there's something beyond this physical,

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three dimensional world we all live in. This is the skeptic metaphysicians.

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Welcome to the skeptic metaphysicians. I'm
will and i'mous and I'm not sure I

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have the right words to help me
introduce this next topic, So rather than

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give it a try, instead,
I thought we'd share with you this video

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piece that our next guest created,
explaining in a way what our topic of

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conversation is all about today. I'll
take a look so these important questions.

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Who are we? How can we
work with the challenges of the mind,

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the trauma, the anxieties and help
resolve these things so we can bring healing

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and wellness to our life. We
created a comprehensive and professional training structure for

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people to have an experience and education
regarding energy, healing and to find out

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how deep, how profound, how
accessible this healing art form can be.

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It was really important to us to
put together a type of training that we

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were looking for ourselves ten fifteen years
ago. I feel more of a holistic

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connection with all parts of my being, body, my spirit. I feel

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more centered, more grounded, and
connected and who I am. I have

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a greater understanding of my own energy
anatomy, and I have really a better

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understanding of how to work with other
people's energy fields professionally. It's added a

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depth of quality to my work as
a psychotherapist. I have a greater sense

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and knowledge of the whole aspect of
a person that isn't just psychological. It's

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energetic, it's physical, it's spiritual, and this course has helped me really

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see how to work with that in
a really structured, grounded way. I

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was able to get to a place
where I had not been able to get

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to previous forty years of my life, and in a very short time,

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I was able to do a lot
of self healing that gave me freedom that

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I have never felt through my entire
life. I'm more grounded, I am

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more centered, I feel more aligned, and when I get unaligned. I

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have these tools that just bring me
right back into centeredness. This training is

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for you if you want to experience
radical interconnectivity, if you want profound transformation,

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you want to be of service to
the world, and you want to

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do it from a place that really
meets the need of the human experience with

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all its dynamic qualities. We see
that practices focused on energetic health will only

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be increasing in the coming decades.
All right, head to toe, full

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body goosebumps. After that when she
said you want to change the world,

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Oh my, that is like plug
will directly into the system. That's perfection.

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To me, it looked amazing,
gosh, well excited. It doesn't

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even come close to expressing my thoughts
on today's show. And to help us

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dive deep into this modality, we
have Keith Parker who's one of the co

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founders of Field Dynamics, and he's
here with us today to talk to us

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about this incredible modality. Keith,
welcome so much to the show. Hi

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guys, really glad to be here
with both of you. We are thrilled

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to have you here, although we
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Yes, the people that aren't getting
to see this go check it out on

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YouTube because it's this beautiful, beautiful
retreat place. Yeah, it really,

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it's amazing. What an incredible place
or yeah, one incredible place to learn

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how to heal yourself in others?
I can just imagine. Was that in

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Bali No, So that was actually
a retreat we did last year in Yalapa,

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Mexico. Yulapa's not that well known, it's outside of Pueravarta, and

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we got together, packed out a
retreat center there and had a week of

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just amazing transformational work. That was
a retreat, not a training, but

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the people who were there a lot
of them have gone through our trainings and

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stuff. And I was as you
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remembering how just it was such a
wonderful experience, really fulfilling. Absolutely I

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could see the smile. You had
this huge smile on your face while we're

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watching it, and it's just it's
infectious. It just it makes you want

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to be there. All right,
let's dive into this because Field Dynamics right

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before we started full disclosure. You
you were gracious enough to give Karen and

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I a session before we get started, and we'll talk about that later on.

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But let's set the table first so
that people listening can really get an

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idea of what we just experienced.
Field dynamics is an energy healing modality that

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isn't used with science. What makes
this so groundbreaking in your estimation? You

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know, we put this together,
Crysta Billa and I because we saw a

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real opportunity kind of a gap in
the market that's out there for something that

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was very twenty first century. This
is an ancient practice. Energy healing goes

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back all the way to the beginning
of time. You could even consider shamanic

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work as a certain connections into what
we now call energy healing, although some

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people don't make those connections. But
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kind of update the language, to
universalize the understanding, to make it very

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transparent, to make it non proprietary, to be able to describe things in

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scientific language, to have things be
grounded, to get it out of the

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woo woo. You know, we
like to think of kind of transmuting the

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woo woo from the woo wuo to
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you know, to kind of cheer
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seeing is a lot of these things
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make sense of, didn't have the
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ago. What we're finding now,
for instance, within scientific discovery, cutting

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edge stuff like that, there's the
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you might call like more of an
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of look at what's going on in
science right now, it's really happening.

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So we're at the edge of a
paradigm shift. I'm quite confident in that.

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And the field dynamics is a modality
that provides a training structure, a

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container for people to learn energy work
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comprehensive and professional way for people who
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do this professionally by working with others
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And to go through the transformational process. I mean, that's what that's

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what all healing work is about,
as inner transformation. So we deliver that

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as a training experience. So a
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oh, that's raki, and I
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to us how this is different than
make you explain to our audience. Yeah,

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I mean reiki is wonderful. I
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all have to thank for the reference
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if you asked one hundred people on
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be, you know a certain amount
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meant. And then the people who
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of that. And if you said, sure, have you ever heard of

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a type? The majority of people
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going to say reiki. So it's
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disseminating this to the public in general, to the Western world, to the

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world in general. Is a contemporary
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What we found is reiki in general. You know, people go in and

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they tend to do about two days
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for instance, but often they do
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maybe three days of training. I
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technically is decentralized. There's no like
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most people's experiences. Maybe two three
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master and then they go out and
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can see, it's been very effective
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what we wanted to do was take
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I studying lots of different modalities that
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healing stuff as our background, and
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energy healing and kind of tease it
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healing can conform to and address a
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much larger topography and map of the
human energy field, how to work with

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that issues, how to work with
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explorations within the how you can push
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hugely creative in nature, massively creative, and so that we just didn't see

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that anywhere out there in the marketplace. So we basically designed the thing we

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ourselves would have wanted to have taken
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most of the audience, some of
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listened to this knows that I am
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and level two. So I can
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but I hadn't used it in quite
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a retreat thanks to a wonderful human
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and I got reattuned with that with
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then, I mean, it reminded
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energy glow through you and out your
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that that creates between you and the
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I've not experienced ever beyond doing reiki. I mean, it's an instant connection.

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Is field dynamics? Is it similar
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you and into someone, do you
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connection with that person? Or are
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into somebody. So there's some important
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running energy and that energy coming from
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consciousness whatever. There's lots of ways
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it'll keep it top line and vague
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running energy with field dynamics. The
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as it is for somebody else.
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we work with who come through the
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a self practice. At least that's
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because we understand that for people who
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the foundation of that is doing your
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you said, change the world,
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you know, part of the ethos
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to us as individuals to change the
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world out there different, it's about
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it carries over and translates into how
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goes for you know, the way
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of the emphasis is in a self
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self practice, and then the skills
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automatically. Pretty much everything you can
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that over to working with others.
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we don't focus on energy coming through
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see the energy circulating through the field
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you kind of concentrate or direct things
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letting it flow through you, but
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It's little like surfing, like there's
a there's a force moving through you,

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but at the same time you can
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cruise through it, or you know, like or you could think of it

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as like a hose of water,
so there's a pressure or a potency,

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but you can direct it. You
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accurately, so the more kind of
skillful you get with it. So I'd

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say that the core, the underlying
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reiki, but we we kind of
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And now, as someone who's not
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not a reki mass or anything,
I have had reiki before, but to

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me, one of the big differences, and I don't know if it's just

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because I'm limited in my reiki experiences, but I've never had someone guide me

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through it, and I really liked
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emotional aspect where we were kind of, you know, looking at some deep

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emotional issues. Yeah, let's not
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yet. We're gonna talk about experiences
in a second. But yes, it

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was in general sometime on my experience. But it's not just like my leg

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hurts, fix it. It's like
there's something going on. And I liked

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to have the on the real that
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who's a psychotherapist and she's using this
now with her patients, and I think

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that's fantastic. I think it's just
gosh, anything we can do to help

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heal, especially with everything that's going
on these days. It's taking such an

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emotional and mental toll on everybody.
We need something like this desperately. Yeah,

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so thank you for what you're doing. Of course. Yeah. It's

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hard to describe in some ways what
we're doing, because it's hard enough to

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describe what energy healing is because that's
not something that there's an agreed upon language

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to understand that. But we're using
energy healing as the center point for lots

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of skills converging together. So we're
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the core thing, which is present
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a meditator has a certain skill set. Now we're trying to help people to

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take that meditative mindset and approach,
and then you add an energy healing practice

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and all of a sudden, it
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for instance. So if you saw
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in a particular way. And the
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they get in the field. That's
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and deeper states of meditation. The
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of energy flow where it organizes to
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different kinds of experience which are described
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things like that, like kind of
advance meditation. So energy healing is something

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where we're teaching people in the approach
where you know, you use a meditative

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mindset, then you use the energy
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Like it's a major accelerant to what's
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that things like tracking skills, so
things like how do you notice where you're

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blocked? How do you follow energetic
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I guided you guys through a bit
in the practice we did. How do

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I notice blockage? How do I
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And then even you know, broader
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is really starting to understand the transformational
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understanding patterns, how they work.
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all together, you start to have
a very integrated skill set that is very

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appealing to people who you know are
psychotherapists, are doctors, lawyers, body

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workers, coaches, you know,
shamanic practitioners, yogi's, meditators, et

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cetera other energy healing background. So
the people that we work with are coming

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from every background imaginable. Some people
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their entire life and have no ever
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other people have spent forty years meditating, practicing all kinds of me noalities,

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energy work included, and everybody seemed
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And because of the nature of the
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multi layered approach. It's really easy
to kind of get on board wherever you're

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at. So that's dumb it down
for me. Yeah, because you're talking

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all kinds of things that are amazing, but some of them may be going

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over my head. I need to
make sure that I understand. I believe

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that with reiki we do a little
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field work, but for the most
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somatically, right, we are sending
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centers and things like that, but
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versions of reiki, you do more
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was certified in the original USUI method, so it's really truly somatic. However,

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field dynamics. When we were talking, you mentioned that it was about

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and you in your website you talked
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where it's coming from. But you
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the aura, the chockras as well. In reiki, when you are getting

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a tune, you get symbols placed
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which allows you to align with these
energies. What do you do with

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someone's aura? Do you manipulate it, do you shift it? Do you

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drain it and refill it? How
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know, it's it's great, that's
your There's obviously there's so much to cover

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in terms of the one oh one
type stuff, And that's a great question

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you're asking. So so we're focusing
on the energy field. But the thing

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is, the body is in the
field, and everything that's going on in

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your body has a correlation or an
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can't work directly with the physical body
because energy feeling isn't physical. It doesn't

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start physically. It starts in the
electromagnetic field, the energy field, the

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aura, but it works its way
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field and the body are working.
And we're seeing the edge of that prinstance

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and science with things like bioelectricity.
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in terms of understanding the deeper nature
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or sustainment of the physical body.
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that everything winds up back at the
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So your body's in your field.
It's not that your energy field stops

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at the edge of the skin and
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that the field is through the body. And the ancients would talk about this

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like the Yogi's they would say,
well, there are there are five elements,

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or the Greeks also said the same
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the potonic solids, and they would
use the four elements the things that we're

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most familiar with in terms of elemental
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earth, fire, and air,
those four elements. Then there's always a

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fifth element, that fifth elements called
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that that's the talking about that the
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within space, within ether, so
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field is what seems empty, but
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elements to kind of aggregate and create
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kind of elemental form, but it's
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really clearly through your own body,
you could feel in a sense a wave

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of energy move right through your body. It can start in front of it

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and go straight through and go out
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the electromagnetic grid, if you will, precedes the formation of the body

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in a sense. And this is
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have at field dynamics that we call
a field first model, where we understand

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that things happen in the field.
There's like a causal thing going on where

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certain things are happening in the field
before things happen physically, right, So,

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and people can understand this in terms
of like, okay, well you

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what do you mean, like energy
before matter or mind before matter, you

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know, And yeah, it's pretty
straightforward. Like if you're going to like

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bake a birthday cake for somebody,
you have to think about making the birthday

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cake. You have to think of
it, you have to energetically create it,

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and then physically you can manifest it, if you will. And that

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leads us into what's in the field. Right. It's interesting because I never

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ever thought about the energy field going
through me. I'm guilty as charged,

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right, And I almost saw like
our bodies generating the field, so that

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there was no sense of the field
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a lot of sense. I need
to rethink that in a big way.

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There's a there's a yeah, there's
no, there's a lot to that.

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There's a boy. I mean.
So my skill set in part, and

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I discussed this with you guys earlier, is I can I can see that

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the energy field really really clearly.
As a byproduct of practices I did for

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a long time a lot of meditation
and healing work, I had a kind

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of significant opening where I could I
was just kind of granted this access in

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a sense that I had to keep
deepening, but enabled me to see and

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feel the field with this remarkable kind
of clarity. And I can everything that's

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happening in my energy field, I
see, and I can have that correlate

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feeling in my body simultaneously all the
time. So that's what gives me a

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major insight into how to be a
co founder of an energy eling modality and

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to understand the mechanics very clearly.
And then I can take that self study

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and then compare that to ancient traditions, other living clearvoyance people like Barbara Brennan,

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or looking at contemporary science and seeing
how science is also talking about the

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nature of matter and relation to energy
or the nature of how our brains are

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formatting or connecting to higher dimensions that
are non physical things like that. So

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there's a lot there, and the
emerging science is one of those interesting things

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where it's like it doesn't sound like
it sounds like science fiction now right now?

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Yeah, all right, So we
got a lot more to talk about,

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but we have to take a quick
break. When we come back.

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We're going to talk about our experience, Skaren and I's experience with the dally

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But we're also going to touch on
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do we need to have psychic senses to

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be able to do this. We'll
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back to the Skeptic metafisicians. We
are talking to Keith Parker. He's a

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co founder of fuel Dynamics. It's
a modern energy modality that is so far

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above and beyond any energy healing modality
I've ever experience or talk to about.

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There's a lot to it. There's
a lot to it, and we are

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we're just scratching the surface, I
know, but we'll try to get to

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as many questions as we can.
Keith, right before the break, we

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were talking about the depth of the
dimensionalities, all the like, how deeply

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into the body and the energy fields
and all that kind of stuff we get

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into when we start utilizing this modality, And right before the break, I

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asked the big question that everyone wants
to hear, everyone wants the answers to

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because this sounds like you mentioned you
were able to see energy fields really clearly.

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Well I cannot, So does that
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Because that's going to make me really
bummed out. No worries, you don't

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have to be bummed out at all. Anybody can do this. Anybody can

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do this on day one. And
it's really really important that this isn't like

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day one day one we have a
Foundations training for instance, it's just you

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know, two days, just like
Reiky would be a couple of days,

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a few day in general for most
people, depending on the levels. We

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have a two day training that's ten
hours long, and people have a self

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practice coming out of that right away. Energy healing works with the underlying mechanics

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of how things happen in terms of
thought to physicality, so nobody has to

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you know, work to learn how
to work with directed thought or intention or

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invocation. Once you learn the underlying
mechanics, you're off to the races and

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it'll it'll work. The clarity of
one's sensing is a totally different thing.

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So do you need to be psychic
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Not at all, Not in the
slightest. You can be one hundred percent

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removed from sensitivity at all, whatever
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that as you practice, your sensitivity
naturally will increase. And what that does

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is it makes it makes the texture
or the feedback or the surface engagement of

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it more and more rich, so
you'll get more and more data or in

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as you keep improving your sensing.
And the cool thing is that you don't

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have to practice sensing enhancement or psychic
development explicitly. It happens implicitly by the

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mere fact of doing the energy healing
practice. So as you clarify your field,

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your self perception and your perception in
general gets more and more clear.

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So it's like a coincidental progressive kind
of development. So basically, your skill

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sets, your abilities tend to come
out more the more you clear your energy

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field of all the debris and all
that kind of stuff. Oh, big

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time, are so what our field
is? Okay? Our field is comprised

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of thoughts and emotions. It's mental
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I think the most for most people. Just a very straightforward kind of big

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light bulb going off is do you
have an aura? The answer is one

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hundred percent. I am not even
gonna there's no argument about do you have

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an aura? I guarantee that everybody
has an aura. I don't care if

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it's scientific or not. It's just
plainly evident. Well, scientists would say

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the electromagnetic field, right, that's
the aura. If you want to look

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at it in a pragmatic point of
view, yes, except that, in

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no way whatsoever would any mainstream scientists
say that there's proof of the aura at

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this point. It's not something that
is considered like sharable amongst scientists and above

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board. You know, And well, I would say that they're just big

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poopy heads. Then, because everybody
knows we have an aura, we do

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have an aura, and it's complex. It gets complex when you get into

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the nuance of it. This is
where I have a book that's going to

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be coming out later this year and
I try I go through this quite comprehensively

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about trying to build the building blocks
to start to understand the structuring of the

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aura, which is definitely too complicated
for our talk, but has to do

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with these words higher dimensions, multidimensionality, And it starts with the simplicity of

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electromagnetic fields, but it's about how
do electromagnetic fields get structured into kind of

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deeper or more complex kind of architectures
or information structures, and how does that

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relate to physical reality? And that's
the area is that it's it's a bit

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more complex, but the simple thing
is electromagnetic fields. Now that's the structure

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of it. But the content is
what's happening with our mind, our thoughts,

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and our emotions. So again I
can see this. This is not

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something I'm saying new. You know, you can read all kinds of esoteric

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texts other people who are living today
that also can verify these kinds of things.

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When you're thinking, every thought that
you have is a form in your

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field. So we tend to think
of the body as having the form as

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being like an object. Right,
your mind also in a sense has an

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objective. There's an objective aspect level
structured aspect of what we call the mind.

408
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So when you think there's just stuff
happening in your field, when you

409
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have emotions, there's emotions being expressed
in your field. If you can see

410
00:29:49.559 --> 00:29:55.799
it really clearly. Our field is
very much reflective of what's going on mentally,

411
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and it kind of stores everything that's
ever happened to a psychologically in a

412
00:29:59.799 --> 00:30:02.960
sense, like a database of the
mind, if you will. And so

413
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when we want to see ourselves clearly
or perceive more clearly, that means clarifying

414
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our mind, clarifying the very thing
through which we're perceiving everything in the first

415
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place. So there's this wonderful,
yeah, wonderful process that happens. And

416
00:30:15.960 --> 00:30:19.799
people that I've worked with, some
people are very sensitive. That is very

417
00:30:21.000 --> 00:30:23.519
common for people to be very empathic
or have kind of certain kinds of let's

418
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say, psychic abilities who get into
subtle energy work. But just as many

419
00:30:27.599 --> 00:30:33.440
people I see coming through our trainings
that are that are not let's say,

420
00:30:33.519 --> 00:30:37.359
naturally gifted in these domains, there
might be a little bit intimidated by that

421
00:30:37.480 --> 00:30:40.359
aspect of it or not really know
what to do with it, but nonetheless

422
00:30:40.400 --> 00:30:44.359
they're attracted to doing this kind of
practice. And I've seen people go from

423
00:30:44.720 --> 00:30:48.799
very let's say poor sensing in terms
of they don't get a lot of information

424
00:30:48.960 --> 00:30:52.119
a lot of feedback when they're practicing, to six months later, a year

425
00:30:52.200 --> 00:30:55.599
later, they're in an entirely different
place and they have a lot of confidence

426
00:30:55.599 --> 00:30:59.680
in their ability to sense subtle energy. So can someone learn how to ask

427
00:30:59.799 --> 00:31:04.359
put check from it? That's all
I want to know. Never mind,

428
00:31:04.440 --> 00:31:11.160
Karen fine back away from the no
product. Well, then let's go ahead

429
00:31:11.160 --> 00:31:15.440
and dive a little bit into our
experiences with the modality, because it was

430
00:31:15.640 --> 00:31:19.079
really interesting. It was a truncated
version. We only did like about about

431
00:31:19.079 --> 00:31:23.880
a half hour one, but it
was really interesting inasmuch that, to Karen's

432
00:31:23.920 --> 00:31:29.039
point earlier, you led us through
it and you did a lot of body

433
00:31:29.240 --> 00:31:33.799
sensing, right, feel your body
before you start, and then as you're

434
00:31:33.799 --> 00:31:38.359
doing the energy work and things like
that, then feel how things have changed

435
00:31:38.359 --> 00:31:41.559
are changing? And what are you
feeling in those energy centers? And you

436
00:31:41.599 --> 00:31:48.160
went through the chakras and then you
took a specific instance or challenge that we're

437
00:31:48.160 --> 00:31:52.680
dealing with, and then visualize.
You helped us to visualize a certain I

438
00:31:52.680 --> 00:31:55.960
don't want to give it all away
to a certain thing, and then we

439
00:31:56.039 --> 00:31:59.000
released it and how does it feel? So it was actually kind of interesting

440
00:31:59.039 --> 00:32:02.079
because I had never experienced being like
that before, other than like visualization practices

441
00:32:02.079 --> 00:32:07.039
and things like that. But this
is kind of connected all together. So

442
00:32:07.279 --> 00:32:16.920
I want to usher in ladies first, Karen, Yeah, tell us about

443
00:32:16.920 --> 00:32:21.799
your experience with field dynamics. Well, first of all, it was very

444
00:32:21.799 --> 00:32:23.799
relaxing, hence the cup of coffee
that I'm having because I had to perk

445
00:32:23.839 --> 00:32:28.119
myself back up after that. Yeah, but I had no idea what to

446
00:32:28.160 --> 00:32:31.839
expect. So, and this is
I guess sometimes you know, you can

447
00:32:31.880 --> 00:32:36.119
feel something really strongly or or lightly, and some people don't feel anything,

448
00:32:36.119 --> 00:32:39.079
And that's kind of that you were
telling us earlier. At first, I

449
00:32:39.240 --> 00:32:44.480
felt I felt something like when you
said after you kind of had us feeling

450
00:32:44.480 --> 00:32:45.759
our body and you said, OK, I'm going to put my energy in

451
00:32:45.920 --> 00:32:51.160
or I'm not sure how you worded
it. I felt like very strongly,

452
00:32:51.359 --> 00:32:53.559
like this heaviness, like I was
attached to my chair, like I was

453
00:32:53.559 --> 00:32:58.599
being pulled in, and then that
kind of disciplined Actually I coughed, and

454
00:32:58.640 --> 00:33:01.440
I think when I coughed it away, I like shocked myself out of it.

455
00:33:01.920 --> 00:33:05.079
And then you went through the different
chakras, which for me, I

456
00:33:05.079 --> 00:33:07.440
didn't feel a whole lot during that
part until you got to the crown chakra,

457
00:33:07.920 --> 00:33:10.799
and that's when I started feeling kind
of the tingling in my head and

458
00:33:10.839 --> 00:33:14.799
I kind of felt like the chair
was rocking a little bit back and forth,

459
00:33:15.440 --> 00:33:17.240
which was nice. I felt the
sense of release kind of towards the

460
00:33:17.319 --> 00:33:22.039
end. But it was very interesting, and I did like how you guided

461
00:33:22.119 --> 00:33:25.720
us through it. I thought that
that was really helpful. Well on my

462
00:33:25.799 --> 00:33:29.759
side of things. You know,
everyone knows that I'm pretty dense. I

463
00:33:29.759 --> 00:33:32.519
don't feel energy is very often unless
it's like smack you in the face kind

464
00:33:32.519 --> 00:33:38.720
of obvious. And interestingly, you
were having us feel individual chakra points,

465
00:33:38.880 --> 00:33:45.039
and I would say I could be
making it up. Who knows, I've

466
00:33:45.039 --> 00:33:49.799
made up lots of worse things lots, but you don't have to go quite

467
00:33:49.799 --> 00:33:52.480
that far, I'm just agreeing and
support, thank you. But each chakra

468
00:33:52.559 --> 00:33:57.839
point seemed to feel differently. Some
of them were tight, of some of

469
00:33:57.920 --> 00:34:00.480
them were throbbing, other ones were
tingling. To Kara's point, but it

470
00:34:00.680 --> 00:34:05.079
again, it wasn't until we got
to the crown that I actually felt like

471
00:34:05.119 --> 00:34:08.280
a tapping, like a physical like
like inside your skull, like all the

472
00:34:08.320 --> 00:34:12.679
way around my skull, which was
interesting, like popping. It was actually

473
00:34:12.840 --> 00:34:16.679
pretty cool. When we were in
the hard chakra, I felt it opening

474
00:34:16.800 --> 00:34:20.960
right, and this feeling of joy
was like coming in. It was actually

475
00:34:20.960 --> 00:34:22.800
pretty pretty amazing, which was really
nice. It could be that was just

476
00:34:22.800 --> 00:34:29.039
happy to be relaxed meditating, who
knows, but it felt joyful. And

477
00:34:29.119 --> 00:34:34.000
then when you started talking about the
thing, the challenge that we're experiencing.

478
00:34:35.039 --> 00:34:40.679
This is where I found it interesting
because it almost seemed like a cross between

479
00:34:40.719 --> 00:34:43.920
because you were doing some energy work
and I had my eyes closed, so

480
00:34:43.920 --> 00:34:45.400
I don't know if you were waving
your hands, if you were shaking a

481
00:34:45.440 --> 00:34:49.920
chicken, I don't know what you
were doing, but it seems like you

482
00:34:49.960 --> 00:34:54.559
were mixing psychology visualization with energy work
and then breath. I mean, it

483
00:34:54.599 --> 00:34:59.119
was kind of like a combination of
a whole bunch of things, and then

484
00:34:59.559 --> 00:35:02.320
you had a feel emotions that were
attached to this particular thing, and I

485
00:35:02.360 --> 00:35:06.400
did. I felt it. I
felt sadness and sorrow, and it was

486
00:35:06.440 --> 00:35:13.960
a pretty deep, surprisingly deep feeling
of sadness that was attached to a situation

487
00:35:14.039 --> 00:35:17.400
that didn't even realize we're connected.
And then when you have to put it

488
00:35:17.400 --> 00:35:21.920
all on in the suitcase and release
it, the sadness just kind of went

489
00:35:21.920 --> 00:35:27.159
away. And I don't know whether
that was a symbol of you were nearing

490
00:35:27.159 --> 00:35:30.760
the end of the practice or if
it was truly a release of the challenge.

491
00:35:30.199 --> 00:35:34.760
But I'm really curious to see what
happens in the next forty eight to

492
00:35:34.760 --> 00:35:37.320
seventy two hours, because you say
on your site that's pretty much what you

493
00:35:37.360 --> 00:35:39.840
can expect for the next forty eight
to seventy two hours. There might be

494
00:35:39.840 --> 00:35:45.480
some changes and things like that.
What can we expect now that we've had

495
00:35:45.480 --> 00:35:50.239
this treatment. Yeah, like you
said, forty eight to seventy two hours,

496
00:35:50.239 --> 00:35:52.639
it's good to think of two to
three days as a general window.

497
00:35:52.079 --> 00:35:55.480
It's very like parallel to you know, the more and more I've talked about

498
00:35:55.519 --> 00:36:00.280
this over the years, the more
I realized the mirror between and the energetic,

499
00:36:00.440 --> 00:36:04.840
or you could say the mental and
psychological in some ways in terms of

500
00:36:04.840 --> 00:36:07.519
what happens as a result of change. So if you go to the gym

501
00:36:07.559 --> 00:36:09.920
and you work out really hard and
do your biceps or something, and you

502
00:36:10.199 --> 00:36:14.000
rip some muscle tissue if you want
to build the bustle, you feel it

503
00:36:14.039 --> 00:36:17.159
the most two days later and maybe
three days later. So it's really similar

504
00:36:17.199 --> 00:36:21.320
in the field. When things change
in the energy field, in terms of

505
00:36:21.320 --> 00:36:24.079
structures, there tends to be about
a two to three day window of change,

506
00:36:24.119 --> 00:36:28.960
and what that means is you don't
feel sore in your physical muscle,

507
00:36:29.000 --> 00:36:34.079
but instead you might feel the stimulation
and the cycling of that which has changed,

508
00:36:34.440 --> 00:36:37.920
kind of reorganizing itself. So if
there was sadness that arises in somebody's

509
00:36:37.960 --> 00:36:43.039
experience in a session and the ideas
that they're releasing that setness in the session,

510
00:36:43.480 --> 00:36:45.559
maybe the next day or a couple
days later they are in a funny

511
00:36:45.599 --> 00:36:49.599
mood that has a quality of sadness
to them, and they might say,

512
00:36:50.400 --> 00:36:52.599
oh man, this is terrible.
I thought that I worked through that sadness.

513
00:36:52.639 --> 00:36:57.119
But really what's happening is that basically
that area and that's been blocked or

514
00:36:57.199 --> 00:37:00.679
rigid, right, is actually starting
to get fluid, and it's basically trying

515
00:37:00.679 --> 00:37:05.599
to repattern itself, trying to express
itself in a new way to not be

516
00:37:05.719 --> 00:37:08.800
as identified with and as held in
the energy system as it was before.

517
00:37:08.840 --> 00:37:12.840
Now, it doesn't mean that you
necessarily will be sad as a result of

518
00:37:12.880 --> 00:37:15.079
releasing sadness. It could be that
somebody's question, Yeah, somebody could be

519
00:37:15.119 --> 00:37:20.440
really really happy and ecstatic, like
very light and having had the proper process

520
00:37:20.440 --> 00:37:22.599
of release. It just it goes
any which way, depending on what the

521
00:37:22.599 --> 00:37:27.679
thing is, what stage of development
and healing and transformation it is, and

522
00:37:27.840 --> 00:37:30.480
kind of just what needs to happen. And we trust the natural integration process

523
00:37:30.480 --> 00:37:35.039
always, but it's important to be
mindful in those next two or three days

524
00:37:35.079 --> 00:37:39.199
in particular, because things can cycle
as they're repatterning themselves naturally. Okay,

525
00:37:39.360 --> 00:37:44.639
so here you're on a box of
cleanex with me, got it. You

526
00:37:44.679 --> 00:37:46.280
know what we like to do is, like you guys were saying, we

527
00:37:46.320 --> 00:37:50.760
went through a kind of a scanning
practice through the chakras. Now is running

528
00:37:50.840 --> 00:37:54.199
energy. So there's this, right, there's this energy circulating in your systems.

529
00:37:54.559 --> 00:37:58.760
It was a group energy healing session, if you will, and I

530
00:37:58.800 --> 00:38:01.000
was guiding you guys through the chalk
is because they're great listening stations. Not

531
00:38:01.039 --> 00:38:05.320
only did they core to the energy
anatomy, but as we were saying before,

532
00:38:05.440 --> 00:38:07.760
the most important real estate in your
field is where your physical body is.

533
00:38:08.039 --> 00:38:12.199
It's like that's prime real estate.
Okay, that's where That's where you're

534
00:38:12.280 --> 00:38:15.559
looking at, right, That's what
you feel most truly, So all of

535
00:38:15.559 --> 00:38:20.480
the chokras are where there's physical anatomy, physical tissue, physiology going on anyway.

536
00:38:20.599 --> 00:38:22.599
So it's really really important for us
to be in our centers, in

537
00:38:22.639 --> 00:38:27.000
our core, aligned through our centers. You know, this is the most

538
00:38:27.039 --> 00:38:30.559
important stuff going on physiologically. We
have our spine, our being, akava

539
00:38:30.639 --> 00:38:32.679
aorda, we have all the nerve
plexies, we have our endocrine system or

540
00:38:32.719 --> 00:38:37.079
immune system. Everything is most centered
right in the core of the body.

541
00:38:37.159 --> 00:38:40.559
So what we really want to do
is start to get oriented towards connecting to

542
00:38:40.639 --> 00:38:45.840
that space and starting to potentially differentiate
what's the energetic component what's a physical component,

543
00:38:45.840 --> 00:38:50.440
because they're different sensing mechanisms, you
know, like a body worker learns

544
00:38:50.440 --> 00:38:54.639
to sense physical tissue right, and
that's that's a somatic awareness. But an

545
00:38:54.719 --> 00:39:00.400
energy worker is learning to sense energy
field. So let's electromagnetic subtle energy.

546
00:39:00.519 --> 00:39:05.880
They're different, and you could learn
to basically have a smooth perception across both

547
00:39:05.880 --> 00:39:09.760
of those domains simultaneously. So we
went through the chakras and that was about

548
00:39:10.000 --> 00:39:13.679
getting you guys to kind of locate
it. And there's a you know,

549
00:39:13.719 --> 00:39:15.920
an adage and a lot of energy
healing work that where the attention goes the

550
00:39:16.039 --> 00:39:19.880
energy flows, and this is very
similar to that I think I said at

551
00:39:19.920 --> 00:39:22.880
the beginning. It's like a hose. It's like you're pointing the hose of

552
00:39:22.920 --> 00:39:25.840
the energy flow in your system in
these areas and in doing so stimulating those

553
00:39:25.880 --> 00:39:30.519
areas, getting there to be more
flow, and potentially noticing what's changing,

554
00:39:30.559 --> 00:39:32.320
because when when you put the hose
on it, a lot of stuff starts

555
00:39:32.320 --> 00:39:37.199
to move potentially. So we did
that through the core, and then I

556
00:39:37.239 --> 00:39:40.360
took you guys through what we call
mapping an issue, which is where we

557
00:39:40.440 --> 00:39:44.920
start to see that energy healing is
not only good for energy anatomy, but

558
00:39:45.079 --> 00:39:47.440
also we can work with it at
the same time, very dynamically, more

559
00:39:47.480 --> 00:39:52.440
so than we even did. But
it was just a taster issues. So

560
00:39:52.480 --> 00:39:54.639
I can say, you know,
what's that I have a sadness issue.

561
00:39:54.719 --> 00:39:59.280
Or let's say actually I have a
public speaking issue, and I tried to

562
00:39:59.280 --> 00:40:01.760
do public speak, you know,
a week ago, and I froze on

563
00:40:01.840 --> 00:40:05.960
stage. So I ask you to
connect to the memory, connect to the

564
00:40:05.960 --> 00:40:08.679
emotion, find it in your body, connect to the beliefs associated with it,

565
00:40:08.719 --> 00:40:13.039
and map it, like get a
sense of the territory in your own

566
00:40:13.119 --> 00:40:16.320
sensing where all those things exist.
And if you can start to integrate all

567
00:40:16.360 --> 00:40:21.400
those those kind of multifaceted levels of
sensing, then we start to be able

568
00:40:21.440 --> 00:40:22.679
to have insight, and then we
start to be able to have much more

569
00:40:22.719 --> 00:40:29.519
integrated, full system comprehensive change taking
place. So do you need to be

570
00:40:29.559 --> 00:40:31.480
more sensitive? Like, the more
sensitive you are, the better it works

571
00:40:31.480 --> 00:40:37.320
for you. I mean, sensitivity
is part of the practice of energy work.

572
00:40:37.360 --> 00:40:39.280
I mean it's a you could call
it a palpatient skill, you know,

573
00:40:39.400 --> 00:40:43.320
like a body worker uses pealpation.
That means that you know, they

574
00:40:43.400 --> 00:40:45.199
sense through their hands, so they
put their hands on another person's body and

575
00:40:45.199 --> 00:40:49.360
they learn to listen to tissue.
So that's the sensing skill for a body

576
00:40:49.360 --> 00:40:52.840
workers. Called pulp patient. An
energy worker sensing ability or palpatient skill is

577
00:40:52.920 --> 00:40:57.840
called subtle sensing. You know,
call it extra sensory perception, called psychic

578
00:40:57.880 --> 00:41:00.960
abilities. It doesn't always have to
trans as psychic, because some of them

579
00:41:01.039 --> 00:41:06.000
they're very kinesthetic. They're very not
traditionally psychic in the sense that it's very

580
00:41:06.159 --> 00:41:09.679
kind of mundane and basic in the
sense that you can really start to place

581
00:41:09.719 --> 00:41:15.719
your attention somewhere in your body and
you notice that there's openness or closedness,

582
00:41:15.840 --> 00:41:19.760
or flow or a lack of flow. And that's something that isn't traditionally what

583
00:41:19.800 --> 00:41:22.639
we think of as a psychic ability, but is very much an important sensing

584
00:41:22.639 --> 00:41:29.400
ability when it comes to reading your
field. So when you were walking us

585
00:41:29.400 --> 00:41:32.440
through this, you told us earlier
that you don't really see auras anymore because

586
00:41:32.440 --> 00:41:36.599
you're seeing much deeper in that and
deeper into our energy field and you close

587
00:41:36.639 --> 00:41:38.960
your eyes and it's all black and
you can see everything. Was that going

588
00:41:39.000 --> 00:41:43.559
on while you were walking us through
this process? Yeah? Ooh, so

589
00:41:43.599 --> 00:41:47.960
what they look like? It looked
like a pink pony. I mean,

590
00:41:49.519 --> 00:41:53.920
we were doing a group practice.
I wasn't trying to get very involved with

591
00:41:54.000 --> 00:41:58.559
either of you. As individuals in
terms of reading things and stuff, because

592
00:41:59.039 --> 00:42:02.039
for various reasons, it wasn't really
the intent or the agreement of the session.

593
00:42:02.079 --> 00:42:07.480
And furthermore, when it comes to
group sessions, I tend to stay

594
00:42:07.519 --> 00:42:12.199
more with the group dynamic rather than
individuals. And so Christville and I when

595
00:42:12.239 --> 00:42:15.039
we facilitate group sessions, we kind
of zoom in and zoom out on individuals,

596
00:42:15.079 --> 00:42:21.800
but our primary attendance is to the
group field, and so that it

597
00:42:21.800 --> 00:42:23.800
has a different dynamic. When I
work one on one with somebody, I'm

598
00:42:23.920 --> 00:42:29.039
really really locked in on what's going
on with them and working with that the

599
00:42:29.119 --> 00:42:32.480
interplay between my energy system and theirs, and how to navigate that most effectively

600
00:42:32.519 --> 00:42:36.440
for healing work to take place.
Yeah, I can imagine that one on

601
00:42:36.440 --> 00:42:39.840
one must be pretty intense, amazingly
powerful. Yes, absolutely, because the

602
00:42:39.880 --> 00:42:43.840
group healing was pretty cool as it
is. I can't imagine if you actually

603
00:42:43.840 --> 00:42:47.880
tune in to me and go get
that out of there, that's cool.

604
00:42:50.400 --> 00:42:54.159
So then you teach this tool a
lot of people, you have worked on

605
00:42:54.199 --> 00:42:59.639
a lot of people. You must
have some pretty amazing transformational stories that come

606
00:42:59.679 --> 00:43:02.639
from this modality. Can you share
one or two like the ones that really

607
00:43:02.679 --> 00:43:09.000
smack uniface with USh. Yeah,
you know, God, there are so

608
00:43:09.119 --> 00:43:13.920
many things. The main thing that
comes out overall, which I just find

609
00:43:13.960 --> 00:43:21.199
most I don't know, like I
like this aspect because it seems not exciting,

610
00:43:21.239 --> 00:43:23.679
but to me, it's the most
exciting. Okay, Like you there

611
00:43:23.719 --> 00:43:27.639
are a lot of people who have
these ready made stories that they tell,

612
00:43:27.920 --> 00:43:30.559
you know, they're like teachers or
whatever. They're like this person couldn't lift

613
00:43:30.599 --> 00:43:34.039
their arm and now they lift their
arms and it's just like it happened in

614
00:43:34.039 --> 00:43:37.800
a day, and it's just ah, you know, especially like hah,

615
00:43:38.599 --> 00:43:42.679
yeah. I mean look, I
mean look somebody somebody last weekend said,

616
00:43:42.800 --> 00:43:45.519
oh I have I've had this pain
in my back for like thirty years,

617
00:43:45.519 --> 00:43:49.800
and I do these exercises and I
know them well, they've been doing work

618
00:43:49.840 --> 00:43:51.239
with us for a year and a
half. But like, I have pain

619
00:43:51.280 --> 00:43:53.119
in my back for thirty years.
I do these exercise every day, I

620
00:43:53.159 --> 00:43:57.480
have a physio all kinds of stuff. Literally after the session, there's just

621
00:43:57.480 --> 00:43:59.760
no pain in my back. It
was there before the session and now it's

622
00:43:59.760 --> 00:44:04.320
gone and it's sustained for the whole
weekend. So you know, just an

623
00:44:04.320 --> 00:44:07.599
instantaneous change that had to do with
the tools and the depth and the level

624
00:44:07.599 --> 00:44:09.159
we were working with in the more
advanced kind of course kind of thing.

625
00:44:09.239 --> 00:44:15.519
But in general, overall, what
we are just hearing over and over and

626
00:44:15.559 --> 00:44:19.599
over again is that people are coming
out the other side of doing our trainings,

627
00:44:19.840 --> 00:44:23.159
the long ones in particular, because
that's when we really see the ability

628
00:44:23.199 --> 00:44:27.679
to be with people over a long
stretch of time rather than just a weekend.

629
00:44:27.880 --> 00:44:30.440
And that's why we have set up
the courses as we have, because

630
00:44:30.440 --> 00:44:35.679
we know that deeper transformation work doesn't
happen overnight. Usually it's about you know,

631
00:44:35.800 --> 00:44:37.719
a season or half a year or
a year at least, you know,

632
00:44:37.920 --> 00:44:43.079
and having that guidance and support continue
to help you walk further and further

633
00:44:43.079 --> 00:44:46.400
along the path a lot during that
time. But in general, the thing

634
00:44:46.440 --> 00:44:50.639
that we just keep hearing over and
over again is people just feel like they

635
00:44:50.679 --> 00:44:54.079
are so much more peaceful and present
in life for whatever's coming up. So

636
00:44:54.079 --> 00:44:58.880
they just feel like they're not the
same person anymore. You know, stress

637
00:44:58.920 --> 00:45:02.320
happens, it's not stressful anymore,
or stress happens and they go, I

638
00:45:02.360 --> 00:45:08.679
can't believe that I was able to
deal with this situation without getting imbalanced without

639
00:45:08.760 --> 00:45:15.239
indulging my emotions in a way that
made me ineffective, and that regardless of

640
00:45:15.239 --> 00:45:19.920
what was happening, even if I
was slightly stressful, I had that ability

641
00:45:19.960 --> 00:45:24.320
to watch, to witness that deep
inner peace in the background that was abiding

642
00:45:24.719 --> 00:45:29.760
that enabled them to connect and be
with life much more fully and effectively.

643
00:45:30.159 --> 00:45:32.320
And to me, that's really the
proof in the pudding, and that's you

644
00:45:32.320 --> 00:45:36.199
know, that's what keeps changing in
me over time. That's been the main

645
00:45:36.239 --> 00:45:39.159
thing that I noticed. There's sometimes
where during my own transformational process, I've

646
00:45:39.159 --> 00:45:44.719
had periods of being ecstatic. I
had like months and years of times of

647
00:45:44.760 --> 00:45:47.639
being in states of almost like ecstasy
and rapture where I had so much joy

648
00:45:47.719 --> 00:45:52.519
flowing through me. It was overwhelming
because of you know, making deep changes

649
00:45:52.559 --> 00:45:55.599
in myself, letting go of deep
shadow elements or you know, blockages and

650
00:45:55.639 --> 00:46:00.119
things that were extremely challenging to get
to. When they started to change,

651
00:46:00.280 --> 00:46:04.920
brought back all of those qualities that
we talk about in your child innocence,

652
00:46:05.079 --> 00:46:08.440
love, joy, just things were
just so just exploding out of me,

653
00:46:08.559 --> 00:46:13.639
you know, like a geyser for
periods of time. But the one thing

654
00:46:13.719 --> 00:46:19.679
though, that has been steady throughout
all change has been a deepening of inner

655
00:46:19.719 --> 00:46:25.800
peace and contentment regardless of external circumstance
and people me up, yeah, time,

656
00:46:25.920 --> 00:46:29.440
me up. Yeah. Well,
this is the kind of the carrier

657
00:46:29.519 --> 00:46:31.280
for all the work Crystabella and I
are doing is that it's not just energy

658
00:46:31.320 --> 00:46:35.159
healing. You know, we're really
coming from both a healing tradition, but

659
00:46:35.519 --> 00:46:39.039
for me, I very much come
from a more of like an enlightenment awakening

660
00:46:39.039 --> 00:46:43.800
tradition, meditation, et cetera,
where the point is to end suffering,

661
00:46:43.960 --> 00:46:46.599
you know, like an Eastern tradition
Buddhist yoga. The idea is to be

662
00:46:46.639 --> 00:46:52.760
able to find that there's this thing
that we you know, for people like

663
00:46:52.800 --> 00:46:59.840
really tuning in right now, there's
this thing where it doesn't matter what's happening

664
00:47:00.320 --> 00:47:06.800
outside of you. There is an
ability, a human potential to allow yourself

665
00:47:07.000 --> 00:47:13.239
to discover that there is freedom at
every single moment to not have any imbalance

666
00:47:13.320 --> 00:47:16.599
internally, meaning it doesn't matter what's
happening out there. You can be in

667
00:47:16.719 --> 00:47:22.719
perfect equilibrium inside and free and awake
and present regardless of what's happening out there.

668
00:47:22.760 --> 00:47:28.039
Now, that's an ultimate, but
we can take steps along the way

669
00:47:28.320 --> 00:47:34.480
in which somebody goes from that being
five percent accessible to thirty percent to fifty

670
00:47:34.519 --> 00:47:38.760
percent to seventy percent accessible. Until
when you change those over time like six

671
00:47:38.800 --> 00:47:40.960
months, a year, two years, five years, a decade, two

672
00:47:42.039 --> 00:47:45.320
decades, you're a person who can't
even recognize what it used to be like

673
00:47:45.360 --> 00:47:50.119
to have an experience in the past
because you don't have any of the same

674
00:47:50.239 --> 00:47:54.000
kinds of dysfunctional reactions to it anymore. Wow, you know, And that's

675
00:47:54.159 --> 00:47:58.880
that's called being present. They're truly
present. I just saw you channel that

676
00:47:58.920 --> 00:48:01.519
whole thing. Just did you change
with somebody else? You're given that message,

677
00:48:01.559 --> 00:48:05.559
you know, it's one of the
most powerful messages that we can kind

678
00:48:05.599 --> 00:48:09.559
of get. Is you know,
life is challenging. It just it just

679
00:48:09.679 --> 00:48:13.480
is. Life is challenging. It's
nobody has an easy life. I don't

680
00:48:13.480 --> 00:48:16.000
care where you grow up, who
you are, you know, whatever it

681
00:48:16.000 --> 00:48:20.639
looks like on the outside, internally, life is challenging for everybody in one

682
00:48:20.679 --> 00:48:24.360
way or another from their own perspective. So the thing is is we can't

683
00:48:24.400 --> 00:48:30.239
control what's outside. It's never going
to happen. There's no controlling outside of

684
00:48:30.320 --> 00:48:32.599
us. We can affect it,
we can influence it, but we can't

685
00:48:32.599 --> 00:48:37.519
control it. If we ever were
to use the term control in a way

686
00:48:37.559 --> 00:48:42.440
that is attractive, it's that you
can control inside. Now, control might

687
00:48:42.639 --> 00:48:45.519
feel like a tight word, you
know, but in a sense, though,

688
00:48:45.559 --> 00:48:51.159
we can cultivate what's inside of us
to the degree that we no longer

689
00:48:51.239 --> 00:48:55.159
have to have our internal be predicated
on the external in any way. That's

690
00:48:55.159 --> 00:48:58.960
what freedom is. That's you know, like I said, Eastern tradition,

691
00:48:59.159 --> 00:49:01.719
awakening and light. That's my thrust, or at least that's my kind of

692
00:49:01.719 --> 00:49:07.880
the bedrock from which all of my
practice and you know, study and inner

693
00:49:07.920 --> 00:49:10.199
process began and continues to be anchored
in. And that is, you know,

694
00:49:10.360 --> 00:49:15.119
freedom. And I really like that
term cultivate because then it is it's

695
00:49:15.159 --> 00:49:16.519
a growth, you know, it's
a spiritual growth. It's a growth of

696
00:49:16.559 --> 00:49:21.000
peace and calm and tranquility. I
love that we cultivate it, not control.

697
00:49:21.119 --> 00:49:24.320
We are the universe's peachwo Dish absolutely
love that. I was thinking of

698
00:49:24.400 --> 00:49:30.159
like a flower garden right now.
On your website, you've got the courses

699
00:49:30.199 --> 00:49:34.440
laid out, and I think three
different ones, right You've got the foundational

700
00:49:34.480 --> 00:49:36.599
one, which is the quick one, just to kind of give you an

701
00:49:36.639 --> 00:49:38.760
idea of what it's all about and
you've got the one on one right one

702
00:49:38.760 --> 00:49:43.519
one, one, one, one
hundred, and then you have the two

703
00:49:43.639 --> 00:49:49.719
hundred and each one builds well,
actually one and two build one on top

704
00:49:49.800 --> 00:49:52.840
of the other. Two builds on
top of one foundation. Anyone can take

705
00:49:52.840 --> 00:49:57.559
it any time, just to give
you there's no prerequisite. One one hundred

706
00:49:57.719 --> 00:50:00.760
also has no prerequisite. You can
just take it to start learning. And

707
00:50:00.800 --> 00:50:06.320
I know that you've got a couple
events happening, so talk to us about

708
00:50:06.360 --> 00:50:09.960
that. How what's the best way
to someone get involved with this modality.

709
00:50:12.039 --> 00:50:15.360
Yeah, so we specialize in training. We do private session work, but

710
00:50:15.440 --> 00:50:19.360
Chrystville and I both do private session
work and we have a wonderful you know

711
00:50:19.480 --> 00:50:22.920
clientele, and we love doing one
on one work. But the greater mission,

712
00:50:22.039 --> 00:50:25.440
certainly the purpose of Field Dynamics,
otherwise we would just be two individual

713
00:50:25.599 --> 00:50:30.960
you know, healing practitioners is to
empower people to do this themselves, because

714
00:50:30.000 --> 00:50:35.760
we find that if it's great to
find therapists and healers and facilitators, it's

715
00:50:35.800 --> 00:50:39.639
wonderful. That becomes a support mechanism
and a way to you know, connect

716
00:50:39.639 --> 00:50:44.880
into your blind spots. But when
it comes to what we find most effective

717
00:50:44.920 --> 00:50:49.760
is when people have their own resources, their own inner resources. So we

718
00:50:49.800 --> 00:50:52.119
have a foundation's course, as you
mentioned, that's ten hours long, and

719
00:50:52.159 --> 00:50:55.960
we have that usually scheduled as a
weekend intensive. That's one way to join

720
00:50:57.079 --> 00:51:00.559
us, no prerequisites, and it's
like a taster, it's a court,

721
00:51:00.599 --> 00:51:04.039
it's like a microcosm of the longer
course, and that we kind of cover

722
00:51:04.119 --> 00:51:07.320
all the primary bases and you walk
away with a skill set with an energy

723
00:51:07.360 --> 00:51:13.280
healing practice. Just from that.
The one hundred is again no prerequisites.

724
00:51:13.320 --> 00:51:16.440
A lot of people just start at
that point, and that is generally online

725
00:51:16.519 --> 00:51:21.599
and six months long, live and
online, and we meet on select weekends

726
00:51:21.599 --> 00:51:24.400
and we have one of those coming
up in Actually the next one's really really

727
00:51:24.440 --> 00:51:28.639
soon, but we're sold out in
ten days from now. But when this

728
00:51:28.679 --> 00:51:35.159
gets published, I don't think that'll
count. But we have thet I was

729
00:51:35.199 --> 00:51:37.480
going to say, I know what
it is, and if we release it

730
00:51:37.480 --> 00:51:39.239
when I think we're going to release
it, if you would have like three

731
00:51:39.320 --> 00:51:43.679
days, so you have to act
really fast. Yeah, if anybody were

732
00:51:43.679 --> 00:51:45.920
to hear it and want to check
in, we we might have an extra

733
00:51:45.960 --> 00:51:49.320
space. But I believe that we
had an inquiry today for two more spots

734
00:51:49.320 --> 00:51:52.400
that technically might fill it up,
but check it out, and that the

735
00:51:52.440 --> 00:51:55.039
next one is going to be published
on The next online version will be scheduled

736
00:51:55.039 --> 00:51:59.559
that starts actually in the fall,
in October, but we are in the

737
00:51:59.599 --> 00:52:04.599
middle of that. We have our
in person version of and that is happening

738
00:52:04.639 --> 00:52:08.639
mid April through mid May and Bali. So some people are very like the

739
00:52:08.679 --> 00:52:12.320
online version is perfect for them.
They can do it from the comfort of

740
00:52:12.320 --> 00:52:15.519
their own home, and you know, it's six months, so there's really

741
00:52:15.519 --> 00:52:19.239
a lot of time for integration with
that. With Bali, it's and in

742
00:52:19.239 --> 00:52:22.280
person it's going to be quite different. It's going to be twenty four days,

743
00:52:22.320 --> 00:52:24.880
the six months smushed into twenty four
days. For people who like in

744
00:52:24.920 --> 00:52:28.519
person work, who want to be
more hands on, who want to have

745
00:52:28.559 --> 00:52:30.960
an immersive, intensive experience, and
who also want to do it in a

746
00:52:31.000 --> 00:52:37.199
cultural environment that is absolutely breathtaking and
perfect and idyllic for this kind of kind

747
00:52:37.199 --> 00:52:40.320
of work, then Bali is the
place to be. And that is mid

748
00:52:40.320 --> 00:52:44.519
April through mid May of this year. Okay, and I assume that no

749
00:52:44.519 --> 00:52:47.440
one's going to be voting anybody out
when they're on the Island. Right,

750
00:52:49.920 --> 00:52:52.280
he did pretty well. He held
off most of the jokes until now I'm

751
00:52:52.280 --> 00:52:54.760
impressed. Good job. Well,
sorry, no, that was good.

752
00:52:54.800 --> 00:52:59.519
Actually I like that. Yes hearing
that was good, he says, that

753
00:52:59.599 --> 00:53:02.679
was good. Cary, I grew
up. I loved Survivor when I was

754
00:53:02.719 --> 00:53:07.039
younger. No, I'm still watching
it every season. Okay, So then

755
00:53:07.440 --> 00:53:13.719
what is if someone was interested in
either the online course or going to BALI

756
00:53:13.840 --> 00:53:16.199
and yes I am, but the
side of the point, or take the

757
00:53:16.239 --> 00:53:21.440
foundation's course or learn more about field
dynamics. What's the best way for someone

758
00:53:21.480 --> 00:53:27.360
to do that. Our website is
field Dynamics Healing dot Com. Simply put

759
00:53:28.559 --> 00:53:30.639
makes it super easy. Yep.
But we're going to add a direct link

760
00:53:30.719 --> 00:53:34.400
to that in our show notes.
So all you need to do if you

761
00:53:34.400 --> 00:53:37.960
can't remember field Dynamics dot com is
go to Skeptic Metaphysicians dot com and you'll

762
00:53:37.000 --> 00:53:40.440
see in his episode page you will
see the link laid in directly in the

763
00:53:40.480 --> 00:53:44.960
show notes. So it's easy for
you to get connected. And yes,

764
00:53:45.079 --> 00:53:50.280
we do need a lot more peace
in this world. So I encourage anyone

765
00:53:50.280 --> 00:53:52.920
who can do it to go ahead
and do it, because then I can

766
00:53:52.000 --> 00:53:57.039
lean on you. Hey, you
guys are and you guys are more than

767
00:53:57.079 --> 00:54:00.519
welcome come out to Bali. If
you sounds like you're excited by being a

768
00:54:00.559 --> 00:54:04.079
Bali or you guys are welcome,
wonderful. You know what, be careful

769
00:54:04.079 --> 00:54:08.719
because we're the key kind of people
that will show up. So all right,

770
00:54:08.719 --> 00:54:12.280
well, Keith, this has been
wonderful. Thank you so much for

771
00:54:12.320 --> 00:54:16.880
coming on and sharing with us your
modality, which sounds just amazing and it

772
00:54:16.880 --> 00:54:21.719
felt amazing, it really did.
I really appreciate you taking the time and

773
00:54:21.760 --> 00:54:24.119
doing that for us. I really
appreciate the opportunity to speak to both of

774
00:54:24.159 --> 00:54:28.400
you, and it's very fun by
the way. You guys have a playful

775
00:54:28.400 --> 00:54:30.440
manner and doing this as you're well
aware, and I appreciate that. Like

776
00:54:30.480 --> 00:54:34.920
you said, these subjects which can
be heavy, to deal with them with

777
00:54:35.039 --> 00:54:37.559
levity, so I very much appreciate
that. And thanks to everyone who's checked

778
00:54:37.559 --> 00:54:40.679
this out as well and listens much
appreciate it. Very cool. And if

779
00:54:40.679 --> 00:54:44.599
you listen to this and you do
sign up for the course, come back

780
00:54:44.639 --> 00:54:45.960
to us let us know how the
course is, because I really want to

781
00:54:45.960 --> 00:54:47.639
do it, and I don't want
to do it unless you tell me that's

782
00:54:47.679 --> 00:54:51.079
good, so go ahead, go
ahead and do it. I know it's

783
00:54:51.079 --> 00:54:53.320
good. I'm really teasing, but
do go. And we loved some feedback.

784
00:54:53.320 --> 00:54:57.880
We'd love to hear how when you
go, even the foundation course,

785
00:54:58.000 --> 00:55:00.960
just how did it feel? How
was it for you? Because as getting

786
00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:04.360
that kind of feedback is really helped
for us as well. We know we're

787
00:55:04.400 --> 00:55:07.400
making a difference that that point itself. Once again, Keith, thank you

788
00:55:07.400 --> 00:55:12.880
so much for coming on and we
look forward to seeing you and Bali be

789
00:55:12.920 --> 00:55:19.360
there be square Gilli again. Right, Thank you and a huge thank you

790
00:55:19.400 --> 00:55:22.360
to you. We'd love for you
to contribute by sending us a voicemail or

791
00:55:22.400 --> 00:55:25.280
an email from our website, or
leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or

792
00:55:25.320 --> 00:55:30.000
any other podcasting platform that supports that. Karen and I love hearing from those

793
00:55:30.000 --> 00:55:35.400
that are moved to message us.
It truly does fuel our passion. You

794
00:55:36.039 --> 00:55:37.960
are the reason we do this show, and knowing what you like and don't

795
00:55:38.119 --> 00:55:42.679
like help us craft the very best
show we can so that we can help

796
00:55:42.960 --> 00:55:45.760
raise the vibration of the planet together. Well, that's all for now.

797
00:55:45.960 --> 00:55:51.239
We will see you on the next
episode of The Skeptic Metaphysician. Until then,

798
00:55:51.800 --> 00:55:52.320
take care,

