WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.680 --> 00:00:07.480 This It's the two seventeen Recovery Podcast with Corey Winfield. Stuff went numb. 2 00:00:07.519 --> 00:00:09.439 That shouldn't go numb, you know what I'm saying. And I was like, 3 00:00:09.439 --> 00:00:13.279 what is No? I don't, No, you don't and co holds 4 00:00:13.320 --> 00:00:17.280 Marnie Winfield. It was kind of an awkward thing. He's like, would 5 00:00:17.280 --> 00:00:20.839 you guys want come along? Can you get away to come to the island. 6 00:00:20.879 --> 00:00:28.079 I'm like, yeah, you just got back from there. It is 7 00:00:28.199 --> 00:00:32.960 the nineteenth of November twenty twenty three. My name is Corey Winfield. My 8 00:00:33.039 --> 00:00:37.200 name is Marnie Winfield, and this is the two seventeen Recovery Podcast. Marnie, 9 00:00:37.200 --> 00:00:40.479 it feels great to have you back as co host. It's been way 10 00:00:40.479 --> 00:00:44.000 too long. I've been doing it from the North Studio, just the office 11 00:00:44.039 --> 00:00:48.880 with Justin and Adam and Mitch, and just feels good to have you back 12 00:00:49.119 --> 00:00:53.759 with the group with the goof Troop. Yeah, because I was like, 13 00:00:53.920 --> 00:00:57.119 I don't listen to the podcast often, but I went back. I listened 14 00:00:57.159 --> 00:01:00.079 to the other day from Friday, and usually when I get there on the 15 00:01:00.079 --> 00:01:03.760 podcast, I'm like, that's all right. I guess some people are like, 16 00:01:03.760 --> 00:01:06.319 no, that was a really good one. And I'm like, yeah, 17 00:01:06.840 --> 00:01:10.280 and Justin was like it was a good one. Yeah, And I 18 00:01:10.359 --> 00:01:15.519 listened to it and I actually made myself laugh good And at the time I 19 00:01:15.599 --> 00:01:18.680 just said what I was saying. But then I listened to it and it 20 00:01:18.719 --> 00:01:22.519 was pretty funny. It was around the sixteen minute mark into it. Okay, 21 00:01:22.920 --> 00:01:27.200 so it was Friday Friday, Fabulous, Fabulous Friday Fantasy or something his 22 00:01:27.280 --> 00:01:33.799 name of it. But it was pretty silly. No, I plant I 23 00:01:33.840 --> 00:01:36.400 want to listen to more of them. I need to make time. I 24 00:01:36.439 --> 00:01:38.480 need to commit to make time to listen to the ones you guys do there 25 00:01:38.840 --> 00:01:42.599 because they are good. They are good. I joke about the goof troop 26 00:01:42.640 --> 00:01:46.560 thing. I mean they are goofy, but that's part of why. It's 27 00:01:46.599 --> 00:01:49.760 part of fun and recovery, right yeah, and so no, I think 28 00:01:49.799 --> 00:01:57.280 it it works, so yeah, but sometimes we just go off the path 29 00:01:57.319 --> 00:02:00.239 a little too far. But you're right, are having fun in recovery. 30 00:02:00.319 --> 00:02:05.280 But sometimes it's just good to talk about recovery and stuff with you. So 31 00:02:05.280 --> 00:02:07.240 I don't knowraether you spend more time doing them than listening to them. So 32 00:02:07.280 --> 00:02:10.759 I'm just saying putting it out there. Got it? Now? The other 33 00:02:10.840 --> 00:02:15.719 day. Actually this morning, I was laying in bed, That's what I 34 00:02:15.759 --> 00:02:19.879 was thinking about. What were you thinking about? I was thinking about everybody 35 00:02:20.120 --> 00:02:27.599 doing pretty good stuff, and I was thinking about how everybody into seventeen Recovery 36 00:02:27.800 --> 00:02:32.639 has grown over the past six months, and just seeing I mean, you, 37 00:02:32.639 --> 00:02:36.400 you know, you're growing into a new role. You know, that's 38 00:02:36.439 --> 00:02:40.479 awesome. You're not at the office as much, right which I think we're 39 00:02:40.520 --> 00:02:45.520 all kind of sad about that. Yeah, And then you know, Mitch 40 00:02:45.639 --> 00:02:49.599 is growing. He's kind of taken over the volunteer role of you know, 41 00:02:50.039 --> 00:02:54.719 assembling the volunteers. He goes to Save Harbor and he volunteers himself there to 42 00:02:54.759 --> 00:03:00.879 help people who are what do they call it house on house? Is that 43 00:03:01.000 --> 00:03:05.199 they're saying that, I guess. And then and then some people have problems 44 00:03:05.240 --> 00:03:07.960 with substances. So he goes there and just is like, hey, if 45 00:03:08.000 --> 00:03:10.840 you guys need some help, I can point you in the right direction. 46 00:03:12.280 --> 00:03:14.960 That's good. You know, there's nothing in it for us, you know, 47 00:03:15.000 --> 00:03:16.400 except the feel good part of it. So he's doing that. He's 48 00:03:16.400 --> 00:03:21.960 stepping up, you know, Adam when he started, you know, being 49 00:03:21.960 --> 00:03:25.439 the recovery coach that he is. We didn't know there was going to be 50 00:03:25.520 --> 00:03:30.879 so many opportunities for him to do rides, and there are, and he 51 00:03:30.960 --> 00:03:34.280 actually loves that part now. And at first he was kind of like stand 52 00:03:34.319 --> 00:03:36.479 offish with it, but now, you know, he was telling me the 53 00:03:36.560 --> 00:03:40.680 other day in my office and he's just like the conversations we have with people, 54 00:03:40.680 --> 00:03:43.759 and I think he feels like I felt so many times, like, 55 00:03:43.800 --> 00:03:46.639 man, if we could just put a camera in these cars, yeah, 56 00:03:46.680 --> 00:03:50.560 and show people the difference we're making and the conversations we're having with people, 57 00:03:50.719 --> 00:03:53.520 yeah, it would blow their mind. People would be wanting to help us 58 00:03:53.599 --> 00:03:55.879 left and write, hey man, here here you guys do great. We 59 00:03:55.879 --> 00:04:01.960 need to support you because it is that changing and it's just that important to 60 00:04:02.000 --> 00:04:06.120 someone as they're going to or from treatment, and you know, still to 61 00:04:06.159 --> 00:04:09.960 see him go from well I don't really know what to talk about with these 62 00:04:10.000 --> 00:04:14.560 people, to like on it and just being able to relate one on one 63 00:04:14.599 --> 00:04:17.120 and having those great conversations. He really looks forward to it. The same 64 00:04:17.160 --> 00:04:20.680 thing with Justin, you know, like he kind of had that already feel 65 00:04:20.720 --> 00:04:25.079 good stuff. And Justin said to me a long time ago, before he 66 00:04:25.160 --> 00:04:27.120 was working with us full time, he was just like, man, I 67 00:04:27.160 --> 00:04:30.399 just wish I could do this every day, like the cat. Okay, 68 00:04:30.439 --> 00:04:32.160 well, you're gonna have cats. I mean, you can only have a 69 00:04:32.160 --> 00:04:35.160 badass studio if you share it with the rest of your house. Yep, 70 00:04:35.399 --> 00:04:41.759 that's how this works. So sometimes a cat, he has a big wheels, 71 00:04:41.800 --> 00:04:46.199 he's exercising for me today and he just jumps on this wheel and he's 72 00:04:46.199 --> 00:04:48.600 going and going and going. Of the twenty four hours in a day that 73 00:04:48.639 --> 00:04:55.399 we this cat has the opportunity he has chosen this very moment to actually use 74 00:04:55.480 --> 00:04:58.319 that thing. We actually had to start the podcast over because we weren't really 75 00:04:58.360 --> 00:05:00.560 sure what we were talking about, and we're like, let's just start it 76 00:05:00.560 --> 00:05:01.519 over. But we had started. We were maybe a couple of minutes and 77 00:05:01.639 --> 00:05:06.759 not very far and they got behind the fireplace TV stand that's in the corner 78 00:05:06.800 --> 00:05:12.000 with no TV on it, and they got behind it and they were just 79 00:05:12.040 --> 00:05:14.560 hanging back there and knocking stuff off. And there's a candle, like a 80 00:05:14.600 --> 00:05:16.160 wax candle thing on there, and I don't want to burn them, so 81 00:05:16.199 --> 00:05:19.720 you move that. And then they started to turn the fireplace on the heat 82 00:05:19.759 --> 00:05:25.120 part and they came flying out of there. So yeah, so now he's 83 00:05:25.120 --> 00:05:28.680 doing the wheel so well, now he's done so those short workout. Yeah, 84 00:05:28.800 --> 00:05:31.839 but nope, nope, nope, herey comps. Just kidding, he 85 00:05:31.959 --> 00:05:39.920 just catching his breath anyway, justin though, has come a long way, 86 00:05:39.920 --> 00:05:42.720 but he's already had that part in. I already already said this. Let 87 00:05:42.759 --> 00:05:45.720 me go back to wrom Oh. He said, I wish I could just 88 00:05:45.759 --> 00:05:47.360 drive people every day. I wish I could just do this every day. 89 00:05:47.360 --> 00:05:49.360 And I was like, we'll be careful what you wish for. Now he 90 00:05:49.399 --> 00:05:54.319 does, and yeah, you know he's starting to get the calls and people 91 00:05:54.360 --> 00:05:57.439 call him. Now I have them, you know, call him and set 92 00:05:57.480 --> 00:06:00.360 the rides up. And then he does make sure all the paper, all 93 00:06:00.360 --> 00:06:03.240 the stuffs entered. You know, there's a system that we have, it's 94 00:06:03.279 --> 00:06:09.519 called RDP, and we kind of put stuff in there to kind of let 95 00:06:09.560 --> 00:06:12.439 the state know, hey, here's what we're doing. And you know, 96 00:06:12.439 --> 00:06:15.040 we got to track stuff because if we just said, yeah, we get 97 00:06:15.040 --> 00:06:17.279 people rides, so we'd be like, okay, well what do you mean 98 00:06:17.519 --> 00:06:19.600 right, So we'd like put in there what we talk about. You know, 99 00:06:19.639 --> 00:06:21.920 we don't put like the whole conversation or anything, but just like Hey, 100 00:06:21.920 --> 00:06:25.600 do we talk about housing, Do we talk about so we're living? 101 00:06:25.639 --> 00:06:29.240 You know, do we talk about food or you know, just what our 102 00:06:29.279 --> 00:06:30.920 conversation was. And you know, you go through and you put that stuff 103 00:06:30.920 --> 00:06:33.480 in there, and just to make sure all that stuff's in there now and 104 00:06:35.040 --> 00:06:39.720 I don't know, things are going really well, and even me myself a 105 00:06:39.759 --> 00:06:42.480 little pat on the back because it was a few months ago. And then 106 00:06:42.480 --> 00:06:45.000 I, of course blame it on the system, blame on everything else. 107 00:06:46.639 --> 00:06:50.839 I coryed it this grant that we were going to write and I will last 108 00:06:50.959 --> 00:06:54.959 minute it, just like Corey does. I'll get it in nicked time. 109 00:06:55.759 --> 00:06:58.240 Well, I wrote everything and that was cool, but then I want to 110 00:06:58.240 --> 00:07:00.879 put it in nicked time, and then stuff I wasn't lining up. I 111 00:07:00.879 --> 00:07:03.120 didn't have things right. And if you ever had a grant that you submitted 112 00:07:03.160 --> 00:07:06.120 to the State of Michigan, which I'm sure maybe you haven't, but if 113 00:07:06.160 --> 00:07:10.720 you have, it can be frustrating. They don't have just the system like 114 00:07:10.800 --> 00:07:13.839 they have on grant stat Gov where you just enter the things and there you 115 00:07:13.879 --> 00:07:19.319 go. No, it's yeah, but being the first time I was using 116 00:07:19.399 --> 00:07:23.160 it, I should have given myself. I don't know, maybe three days 117 00:07:23.240 --> 00:07:27.120 or two, and then I kind of blame on the system. Well, 118 00:07:27.160 --> 00:07:29.639 I was junk. It was messed up because they wouldn't allow me to do 119 00:07:29.680 --> 00:07:33.120 this and this and that, and I was frustrated. And in this time, 120 00:07:33.680 --> 00:07:36.920 I want to put myself on the back twice because I was smart enough 121 00:07:36.959 --> 00:07:41.199 to reach out for help, go for you. And I reached out to 122 00:07:41.240 --> 00:07:44.839 Kathy, and I would say, where Kathy works, But I don't want 123 00:07:44.839 --> 00:07:46.319 it to be like, oh, Kathy, I don't want that to define 124 00:07:46.319 --> 00:07:53.199 hers where she works, like Kathy from GTB, that's Kathy Tannan. But 125 00:07:53.279 --> 00:07:56.519 no, she did such a great job kind of helping us, and I'm 126 00:07:56.560 --> 00:08:01.399 so grateful that I met her. Yeah, I'm grateful that she's been throwing 127 00:08:01.439 --> 00:08:03.160 it out there for quite a while, like, hey, you know, 128 00:08:03.199 --> 00:08:07.879 I could help you with some grants. I could write some grants. And 129 00:08:07.920 --> 00:08:11.160 so this time I was smart enough to go, I'm going to reach out 130 00:08:11.240 --> 00:08:13.879 for some help. And I hate asking for help, you know this, 131 00:08:15.000 --> 00:08:16.160 And so that was kind of a big deal. And like I said, 132 00:08:16.160 --> 00:08:20.160 I'm just grateful to know Kathy and to have met her and worked with her 133 00:08:20.199 --> 00:08:26.199 and Scott on the GTB Reservation Conversation podcast. Getting them started, and Scott's 134 00:08:26.240 --> 00:08:31.519 last one was pretty emotional, but it was nice. And so for me 135 00:08:31.560 --> 00:08:35.679 to have the foresight, is that what I'm looking for her, I'm looking 136 00:08:35.679 --> 00:08:41.799 for insight. No, I think you're right to have the foresight to ask 137 00:08:41.840 --> 00:08:45.559 her for help or just to ask for help and then to use her and 138 00:08:45.600 --> 00:08:50.480 then to spend the time. I needed to kind of tweak the other things 139 00:08:50.519 --> 00:08:54.159 that need to be tweaked so we could submit it. We did, and 140 00:08:54.639 --> 00:09:00.000 now we don't know if we've gotten it, but at least it's submitted, 141 00:09:00.960 --> 00:09:03.639 you know. And so I kind of look at that like, hey, 142 00:09:03.879 --> 00:09:07.440 I've grown too, you know. And then watching the guys and the blogs 143 00:09:07.440 --> 00:09:11.919 and how they're getting so much better at writing them and getting them done, 144 00:09:13.000 --> 00:09:16.559 it is just it's pretty cool. It adds more character to to seventeen recovery. 145 00:09:16.600 --> 00:09:22.039 It adds another extension of what we do at two seventeen recovery dot com. 146 00:09:22.080 --> 00:09:26.039 If you haven't read the blogs, I suggest you do. My ratings 147 00:09:26.039 --> 00:09:28.320 on the bottom have nothing to do with the if it's a good a blog 148 00:09:28.399 --> 00:09:31.559 or not. It's just throwing that out there. I just read them and 149 00:09:31.559 --> 00:09:37.360 then I comment. Sometimes I'm harsh on purpose, for other reasons, and 150 00:09:37.440 --> 00:09:41.000 that's just kind of a fun game I play with the guys. But they're 151 00:09:41.039 --> 00:09:46.080 all pretty good blogs, so read them. And you can't really do a 152 00:09:46.120 --> 00:09:50.320 blog wrong. That's the thing, right, It's just how they're feeling. 153 00:09:50.399 --> 00:09:54.320 So that's kind of a nice thing about this morning. In a nutshell. 154 00:09:54.919 --> 00:09:58.879 I think that's great, and I think that you're spot on on all of 155 00:09:58.879 --> 00:10:03.799 it, really, But you know your position, you know, being the 156 00:10:05.679 --> 00:10:11.960 you know, executive officer of you know, to seventeen, you didn't even 157 00:10:13.080 --> 00:10:18.000 know what all that entailed really until it did. And you know, there's 158 00:10:18.080 --> 00:10:22.840 lots of little bits and pieces and big bits and pieces that need to happen, 159 00:10:22.559 --> 00:10:26.879 and you're not a professional at some of that stuff, and sometimes you 160 00:10:26.960 --> 00:10:33.360 need to look at the people that do that for their job to help out, 161 00:10:33.840 --> 00:10:43.200 like accountants or grant writers or you know things like that. Yeah, 162 00:10:43.240 --> 00:10:46.559 but yeah, you got it in on time, and Kathy's amazing and so 163 00:10:46.639 --> 00:10:52.320 I feel really good about it. But you played a big part in interacting 164 00:10:52.399 --> 00:10:56.159 and getting her the material and you know, going over it with her and 165 00:10:56.200 --> 00:11:01.960 then cross checking and all that good stuff. So yeah, she did a 166 00:11:01.000 --> 00:11:05.080 lot of it on her own. I didn't go do too much. I 167 00:11:05.120 --> 00:11:07.679 sent her some things and said, this is what we're doing. But but 168 00:11:07.799 --> 00:11:11.759 she kind of knew, I think the gist of it, and she did 169 00:11:11.799 --> 00:11:16.120 a really good job though. I feel pretty confident too. And we had 170 00:11:16.120 --> 00:11:22.080 a visit from a couple of people from DHHS and they liked what we were 171 00:11:22.120 --> 00:11:26.679 doing, and they loved her office. They loved the whole scene there, 172 00:11:26.679 --> 00:11:28.960 and you know, they loved how clean it was, they said, and 173 00:11:28.399 --> 00:11:33.200 just how welcoming it was and inviting. And I told them the ideas of 174 00:11:33.200 --> 00:11:37.279 the stuff I want to do and hopefully we can do that, and you 175 00:11:37.320 --> 00:11:39.960 know, hopefully we can keep moving forward with that. I don't see why 176 00:11:39.000 --> 00:11:43.440 we couldn't, Right, that's the plan. Yeah, to look into other 177 00:11:45.000 --> 00:11:48.399 avenues of funding, you know, different grants and different things. And you 178 00:11:48.440 --> 00:11:54.120 know, we do the transportation. You know, it could get a little 179 00:11:54.120 --> 00:11:56.559 bit of funds in there, but not a lot because it's not meant to 180 00:11:56.600 --> 00:11:58.519 make us millions of dollars. It's meant to get people to treatment, right, 181 00:11:58.679 --> 00:12:03.120 you know, weak charge for the state rate, the government rate for 182 00:12:03.279 --> 00:12:07.000 gas mileage, and you know, tires cost money. You know, other 183 00:12:07.039 --> 00:12:11.399 things do cost money. But you know, so we're not making a ton 184 00:12:11.480 --> 00:12:15.000 off that at all. You know, if any I don't know, it'll 185 00:12:15.039 --> 00:12:18.000 it'll come around. And I really want to get I don't know something with 186 00:12:18.120 --> 00:12:22.519 video going, man, I'm telling you that's where it's at. And now 187 00:12:22.600 --> 00:12:26.960 to talking about like a podcast, I'm talking about just like I don't even 188 00:12:26.000 --> 00:12:30.799 know. They'll come up with them, I'm sure. Yeah, And maybe 189 00:12:30.960 --> 00:12:33.879 maybe it doesn't even evolve to seventeen. Maybe I get with my friend Ron 190 00:12:33.960 --> 00:12:41.200 Robinson and you know, his his movie or his documentary is going to be 191 00:12:41.200 --> 00:12:48.879 available on Amazon and Reveal, So we'll look for that. Once I see 192 00:12:48.879 --> 00:12:52.840 it, I'll talk about it more. Yeah, I say, I mean 193 00:12:52.879 --> 00:12:56.279 it's about radio and Detroit. Yeah, And I'm just proud of them for 194 00:12:56.399 --> 00:13:01.720 going through the steps, and a lot of people we'll talk about things and 195 00:13:01.759 --> 00:13:03.320 oh I want to do this and I want to do that. But to 196 00:13:03.360 --> 00:13:07.600 see Ron say that. And Ron's been talking about making a movie for a 197 00:13:07.639 --> 00:13:11.360 while, like just with him and me and like writing it and doing some 198 00:13:11.399 --> 00:13:15.399 funny stuff. But we see people talk about things over and over and some 199 00:13:15.440 --> 00:13:16.440 people I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna do that, and then they never 200 00:13:16.480 --> 00:13:20.039 do. They get old and die. But Ron was like, no f 201 00:13:20.120 --> 00:13:24.200 that I'm going to do this. I'm making my documentary movie. I'm gonna 202 00:13:24.200 --> 00:13:26.679 get a hold lot of these people and I'm going to go up to radio 203 00:13:26.679 --> 00:13:30.799 stations and film them and to their houses. And he went all over the 204 00:13:30.799 --> 00:13:35.480 state talking to these people. And it was just very cool that he did 205 00:13:35.480 --> 00:13:39.879 it. And sir, I mean, certain people probably laughed at him. 206 00:13:39.240 --> 00:13:41.799 I thought he was being silly, but he didn't care, and he did 207 00:13:41.799 --> 00:13:46.279 it and he finished it and now look at him. Yeah, you know, 208 00:13:46.320 --> 00:13:50.320 he's gonna have it published on there. He said he submitted it for 209 00:13:50.879 --> 00:13:54.200 it was a film festival. I don't think it was Detroit's film festival. 210 00:13:54.240 --> 00:13:58.759 It was some film festival that he submitted it to. That's awesome, yeah, 211 00:14:00.080 --> 00:14:03.240 but to actually do it, you know, And I told my admire 212 00:14:03.279 --> 00:14:07.679 them for that, and a lot of people say that I did kind of 213 00:14:07.720 --> 00:14:11.240 the same thing. But you know, with starting two seventeen recovery and I'm 214 00:14:11.240 --> 00:14:13.840 just like, man, we're just getting started. Like there's a lot of 215 00:14:13.879 --> 00:14:16.320 things I want to do. There's different ways I want to help people too, 216 00:14:16.360 --> 00:14:24.279 and we'll see, yeah, but it's very inspiring. Absolutely. Anyway, 217 00:14:24.320 --> 00:14:28.600 I've been talking for a lot of minutes. This thing moved on me, 218 00:14:28.679 --> 00:14:31.639 so I don't have the time exactly a lot of minutes I've been talking. 219 00:14:31.840 --> 00:14:35.600 So how about you, Marti, how are you today? I'm good, 220 00:14:35.320 --> 00:14:41.679 I'm really good. Things are going well at my new position. So 221 00:14:41.840 --> 00:14:48.559 I am a clinical therapist now for the women's program. You're in Traverse City 222 00:14:48.639 --> 00:14:56.519 residential and so it's adjusting to a schedule, a different schedule, and there's 223 00:14:56.559 --> 00:15:01.240 a lot of kind of dundancy, but at the same time, every day 224 00:15:01.360 --> 00:15:07.000 is different. So yeah, I really like it. I like it. 225 00:15:07.000 --> 00:15:09.919 I like helping. I mean, I was exactly where those ladies were at 226 00:15:11.159 --> 00:15:13.720 at one point. So you know, there's a lot of relatability, and 227 00:15:16.200 --> 00:15:20.759 you know, it's it's it's really natural. It's a really natural position for 228 00:15:20.799 --> 00:15:24.759 me to be in. And yeah, so and there's some challenges, you 229 00:15:24.759 --> 00:15:28.279 know, because there's some you know, people who are some some some are 230 00:15:28.279 --> 00:15:33.639 sicker than others. I will just say that. But overall, it's a 231 00:15:33.679 --> 00:15:37.120 really good group of ladies and they tend to get along really well. In 232 00:15:37.159 --> 00:15:41.399 our max capacity is ten so but even though they're all my clients, but 233 00:15:43.600 --> 00:15:48.759 that's still so it's kind of a lot. It's a caseload for that particular 234 00:15:48.159 --> 00:15:54.720 platform of treatment. But I really enjoy it. I'm enjoying it. It 235 00:15:54.840 --> 00:15:56.799 just it keeps me busy and it wears me out. Though. Is the 236 00:15:56.840 --> 00:16:00.840 other piece too, Like when you start your day early, Yeah, you're 237 00:16:00.840 --> 00:16:04.320 going at like three am. No, I didn't go in it. No 238 00:16:04.600 --> 00:16:08.360 I go I go in at seven or seven fifteen. That is what I've 239 00:16:08.360 --> 00:16:14.440 been going in to work at. Sometimes I have seven o'clock scheduled depends, 240 00:16:15.159 --> 00:16:18.279 but then I try to wrap up my day earlier. It just it seems 241 00:16:18.320 --> 00:16:22.919 like that is what works for me better. And but I'm just like be 242 00:16:23.159 --> 00:16:27.639 I'm just whooped. Like it seems like, you know, and I've been 243 00:16:27.679 --> 00:16:37.720 trying to do you know, better self care stuff like that, and I 244 00:16:37.720 --> 00:16:41.960 don't know, and join the new house, it's you know, I got 245 00:16:41.960 --> 00:16:48.039 to give a tour virtual tour of the house to my brother and my sister 246 00:16:49.600 --> 00:16:55.519 over FaceTime today. I haven't talked to them in a long time, so 247 00:16:55.799 --> 00:17:00.360 it was good to kind of touch base. And they're all busy doing their 248 00:17:00.399 --> 00:17:07.200 own thing and so it's kind of hard to connect. But you talk to 249 00:17:07.240 --> 00:17:11.039 him for a while, see you shot to them, like I don't talk 250 00:17:11.039 --> 00:17:14.839 to about older brother ever, like over about some cats or something on Facebook. 251 00:17:14.880 --> 00:17:17.799 We will my younger brother. Don't really talk to him ever. Sister, 252 00:17:18.000 --> 00:17:23.359 same thing. Well if you you were only president for a short bit 253 00:17:23.400 --> 00:17:27.480 of it. So mostly it was my brother saying hi, he saw the 254 00:17:27.519 --> 00:17:32.759 house through the tour, and then he said he had to leave because they 255 00:17:32.799 --> 00:17:37.240 were on a hike in Arizona because they're on vacation. He goes on vacation, 256 00:17:37.480 --> 00:17:40.240 so they weren't even he didn't really stick around. I didn't get an 257 00:17:40.319 --> 00:17:45.599 update on him or really how he's doing. But other than the fact he's 258 00:17:45.640 --> 00:17:52.359 on vacation in Arizona, my sister, I got a total crash update on 259 00:17:52.519 --> 00:17:56.680 her, just saying crash meeting, like I hadn't really hadn't known what she's 260 00:17:56.720 --> 00:18:02.000 been up to for the past five or six months. Okay, yeah, 261 00:18:02.119 --> 00:18:03.839 just keep me pulse it. Yeah, it was like that. It was 262 00:18:04.039 --> 00:18:10.079 like it was like, you know, not only did I mean, I 263 00:18:10.920 --> 00:18:14.119 hear a lot of it about what's going on with her through my mom. 264 00:18:14.160 --> 00:18:18.119 So it's like kind of unfair because it's like I don't feel as kept in 265 00:18:18.119 --> 00:18:21.160 the dark even though I should, because I haven't heard them from her mouth. 266 00:18:21.160 --> 00:18:22.759 Because as far as I'm concerned, I didn't even know she's like dating 267 00:18:22.799 --> 00:18:29.599 anybody or what's going on. Well, come to find out she said all 268 00:18:29.599 --> 00:18:33.640 these new progressions in this relationship, and like, you know, so I 269 00:18:33.680 --> 00:18:40.799 love social media, and you know, she's got her own personal struggles, 270 00:18:40.799 --> 00:18:45.359 struggles with her you know, with her life and relationships and you know, 271 00:18:47.759 --> 00:18:51.079 going through divorce and so on and so forth, and the kids are struggling. 272 00:18:51.759 --> 00:18:53.759 So and these are all just natural problems. You know. It's nothing 273 00:18:53.960 --> 00:18:59.599 bad she's done or anything she's handled poorly. It's just you know, going 274 00:18:59.640 --> 00:19:03.519 through, going through the going through the motions. I guess of life. 275 00:19:04.119 --> 00:19:08.480 You get what I'm saying. And so she gave me, you know, 276 00:19:08.599 --> 00:19:14.200 her ups and downs of what's been going on, and that's good. So 277 00:19:14.440 --> 00:19:19.720 I feel more, I guess more in the loop met Yeah thanks taronh Yeah 278 00:19:19.799 --> 00:19:23.079 he gets it. Yeah, those were pretty good drops, I should say 279 00:19:23.240 --> 00:19:26.839 timely. But now I heard you guys talking, I was like, Okay, 280 00:19:26.880 --> 00:19:32.000 I think there's football on downstairs. I better go watch it, because 281 00:19:32.680 --> 00:19:33.839 yeah, it's nice to check in with family, but that's something I don't 282 00:19:33.839 --> 00:19:37.920 do as much as I probably should. And I saw a mutual friend of 283 00:19:37.920 --> 00:19:41.799 ours, Christina, she posted something and she has lost her mom and she 284 00:19:42.039 --> 00:19:45.720 just kind of put on there like I don't know. It was really sad, 285 00:19:45.759 --> 00:19:48.960 and it commade me like cheer up a little bit. And then I 286 00:19:48.000 --> 00:19:52.720 started thinking, like I don't ever reach out to my mom, you know. 287 00:19:52.759 --> 00:19:53.559 So I had see my mom text and was like, hey, what's 288 00:19:53.599 --> 00:19:59.480 up. Well she didn't reply till the next day and she's like, what's 289 00:19:59.480 --> 00:20:03.319 going on. I was like, oh, I'm just in this gambling addiction 290 00:20:04.559 --> 00:20:11.240 some of our web meeting thing and she was like nothing. And then later 291 00:20:11.559 --> 00:20:12.880 I just get an update for my sister. And maybe that's why it's because 292 00:20:12.920 --> 00:20:17.279 like it's just I don't ever talk to my mom and just be like, 293 00:20:17.279 --> 00:20:19.839 how are you doing? Like I don't care about Kylie, I don't care 294 00:20:19.880 --> 00:20:23.039 about Travis or Jerry or what they're doing. I want to know how you're 295 00:20:23.160 --> 00:20:26.720 doing. And that's something And not that I'm a therapist or anything, but 296 00:20:26.759 --> 00:20:33.160 I think sometimes it would be nice for her just to go here's how I'm 297 00:20:33.200 --> 00:20:37.000 doing, you know, without the whole well this is going on, your 298 00:20:37.039 --> 00:20:41.440 sister did this blah blah blah blah, you know, and that's her life 299 00:20:41.480 --> 00:20:44.759 and I get it, but I think it would probably be a relief for 300 00:20:44.799 --> 00:20:48.680 her to step out of that for a minute too, just having a conversation 301 00:20:48.759 --> 00:20:52.880 with her favorite child, you know, one that used to drive her nuts 302 00:20:52.440 --> 00:20:55.960 and now who's got some good stuff going on in his life. You know, 303 00:20:56.039 --> 00:20:57.519 like that's I'm the kid who she needs to be talking to all the 304 00:20:57.519 --> 00:21:06.160 time, just saying it's a truth. Well, it sounded a little bit 305 00:21:06.319 --> 00:21:11.839 like you might have a plan on making that irregular conversation. Okay, yeah, 306 00:21:11.960 --> 00:21:15.000 just give me post it. Well there you go. That's great because 307 00:21:15.119 --> 00:21:18.079 things like that don't happen unless you put them in motion. And we have 308 00:21:18.119 --> 00:21:22.440 a chance to do this this week because it's Thanksgiving week. We're going down 309 00:21:22.519 --> 00:21:26.279 and see the family and all that good stuff my family anyway, and then 310 00:21:26.319 --> 00:21:27.599 we're coming back with your family, and then we have to, you know, 311 00:21:27.680 --> 00:21:30.799 talk to your dad. Unfortunately we don't won't be able to meet up 312 00:21:30.839 --> 00:21:33.880 with him over Thanksgiving, but I'll have a chance, you know, downstate. 313 00:21:33.920 --> 00:21:37.920 I'll be with my father and stepmom, and then I'll be with my 314 00:21:37.000 --> 00:21:44.440 dad and or said that, with my mom and my stepdad and the other 315 00:21:44.519 --> 00:21:47.640 siblings and stuff. I'll have a chance to really sit down and open up 316 00:21:47.640 --> 00:21:48.640 with them this weekend and just be like, how are you doing? I'm 317 00:21:48.680 --> 00:21:52.119 must send everyone I'm down and like, no, no, how are you 318 00:21:52.160 --> 00:21:56.519 doing? That's good? I like it, that's great, and be like 319 00:21:56.920 --> 00:22:02.400 what's wrong with you? They're gonna be like are you okay? What is 320 00:22:02.480 --> 00:22:04.640 this? Where's the camera? Like? Where's a little weird? Now? 321 00:22:06.640 --> 00:22:08.599 What's going on? Is he drinking again? As he showed up? If 322 00:22:08.599 --> 00:22:12.079 you want? Nah? But yeah, but I want to make it more 323 00:22:12.079 --> 00:22:15.519 of an effort. And your mom is doing something cool, well, at 324 00:22:15.599 --> 00:22:18.559 least I don't know. It'll probably be you and your sister I assume maybe, 325 00:22:18.640 --> 00:22:21.319 or just you. But your mom wants to do like video chats with 326 00:22:21.359 --> 00:22:25.039 your siblings like once a week or something. And is that too much to 327 00:22:25.119 --> 00:22:29.480 ask? Absolutely not, you know, And there'll be times where you'll be 328 00:22:29.519 --> 00:22:30.079 like, oh, I don't want to be on this or don't want to 329 00:22:30.119 --> 00:22:33.359 do this call, but I think it'll be fun, you know. And 330 00:22:33.680 --> 00:22:38.519 I look at that like that'd be cool with me and my siblings. I 331 00:22:38.519 --> 00:22:41.160 don't know. I think mom should set a time. You know, it's 332 00:22:41.200 --> 00:22:45.160 like Sundays at five, you want to chat, let's get on it. 333 00:22:45.680 --> 00:22:47.519 You know, and just send it out to everybody. If they answer, 334 00:22:47.599 --> 00:22:49.240 they answer. If they don't, they don't, right, you know, 335 00:22:49.359 --> 00:22:52.759 but even if it's for just like hey, I'm in the middle of taking 336 00:22:52.759 --> 00:22:56.440 the dump, but I'll call you back later, or I can't talk this 337 00:22:56.480 --> 00:23:00.480 week, or I don't know, right, I'm bad with examples. Maybe 338 00:23:00.720 --> 00:23:03.400 like we got our Christmas We get our Christmas tree up here, look at 339 00:23:03.440 --> 00:23:07.559 it. Yeah, you know, just to kind of go through that kind 340 00:23:07.599 --> 00:23:11.319 of thing, and I don't know, to feel more connected. Yeah, 341 00:23:11.359 --> 00:23:15.440 I wish our family would do that, And I'm going to suggest that this 342 00:23:15.519 --> 00:23:18.440 weekend. You know, it is it is kind of one of those things 343 00:23:18.440 --> 00:23:22.440 where it's like and I'm not trying to be more better or anything, but 344 00:23:22.480 --> 00:23:26.960 like if something were to happen, like you know, random, randomly, 345 00:23:27.720 --> 00:23:33.119 and like my sister who's in like the epitome of health or something happened, 346 00:23:33.640 --> 00:23:37.720 and I'm just thinking, like I haven't talked to her in like six months, 347 00:23:37.480 --> 00:23:41.519 you know, like that's unacceptable. Why would I not She was there, 348 00:23:41.640 --> 00:23:45.519 I'm here. It's a phone call like maybe like it's pressing literally using 349 00:23:45.559 --> 00:23:52.079 your thumb to get into contact with somebody. And so yeah, so I 350 00:23:52.079 --> 00:23:56.799 mean I think it's important. Now is this this is another question I have. 351 00:23:57.160 --> 00:24:02.799 Are you supposed to talk to your siblings? Are you supposed to? 352 00:24:03.440 --> 00:24:07.960 Well, I mean we don't have children, so right, the siblings. 353 00:24:08.039 --> 00:24:14.599 I guess my oder brother Jerry doesn't, but I don't know the other siblings 354 00:24:14.599 --> 00:24:18.119 in our lives. They have children running around? And does that make it 355 00:24:18.160 --> 00:24:21.000 harder to pick up the phone or is that is that just an excuse not 356 00:24:21.000 --> 00:24:22.680 to pick of the phone. I mean, I'm sure it does. I'm 357 00:24:22.680 --> 00:24:26.799 sure. I'm sure it adds to the things that you have to you know, 358 00:24:27.160 --> 00:24:32.640 juggle. But and this is kind of your going back to what you 359 00:24:32.680 --> 00:24:34.359 said originally. Is like even if it's just like hey, what's up? 360 00:24:34.480 --> 00:24:40.559 Like hey love you guys, busy or hey love you guys. Look, 361 00:24:40.839 --> 00:24:45.480 this is the painting and painting this wall, or you know, whatever it 362 00:24:45.519 --> 00:24:49.880 is you're doing on that Sunday making you know, chicken bake for dinner, 363 00:24:52.519 --> 00:24:56.839 which I did today. Meanwhile, it's delicious. I should share that recipe 364 00:24:56.839 --> 00:25:03.119 on your page? Should Yeah? Right, I hope you Let's do that 365 00:25:03.160 --> 00:25:07.039 next week? Oh my god, Thanksgiving? But soon we'll do that. 366 00:25:07.279 --> 00:25:10.559 Yeah, So I don't know. I mean, it's it's a good thought. 367 00:25:10.759 --> 00:25:12.000 And even if it's not once a week, even if it's once a 368 00:25:12.039 --> 00:25:15.680 month, you know, as like a check in, if people can make 369 00:25:15.720 --> 00:25:21.319 an effort, I think it's something. I mean, I tend to check 370 00:25:21.319 --> 00:25:26.680 in with my mom more than anyone else in my family. And I think 371 00:25:26.720 --> 00:25:32.119 once you start doing that, when you don't, it feels odd, like 372 00:25:32.720 --> 00:25:37.319 something's wrong, like you're missing something like you're supposed to, you know what 373 00:25:37.319 --> 00:25:41.720 I mean, which I think is great because you know, and we only 374 00:25:41.759 --> 00:25:48.519 really re establish that kind of closeness and connectedness when I got solder, you 375 00:25:48.559 --> 00:25:51.880 know, for real, the other parts of my life it was her trying 376 00:25:51.920 --> 00:25:56.759 to chase me down and make sure I was alive. So kind of a 377 00:25:56.799 --> 00:26:03.200 whole different light on it. And we're actually like enjoying each other's company and 378 00:26:03.200 --> 00:26:04.920 and I, you know, I help her out with saying she needs help 379 00:26:04.960 --> 00:26:11.759 with and you know, she's there for me, you know, as a 380 00:26:11.759 --> 00:26:17.160 mom and as a friend, and it's great. So, yeah, you 381 00:26:17.200 --> 00:26:18.839 talked to her quite a bit. I don't know. I just when I 382 00:26:18.839 --> 00:26:23.359 saw Christina's post thought, I just thought, one day, you know, 383 00:26:23.400 --> 00:26:32.279 if you go through like every little history of the world, I'm going to 384 00:26:32.319 --> 00:26:37.640 miss the time that I wasted of not picking up the phone and saying hello. 385 00:26:36.920 --> 00:26:42.720 Yeah. So I'd like to have a priority this week when I talk 386 00:26:42.759 --> 00:26:48.359 to people at Thanksgiving, you know, just to be like yep. But 387 00:26:48.440 --> 00:26:49.319 I just sometimes think, oh, well, they're all so busy. But 388 00:26:51.480 --> 00:26:53.759 I don't think they're that busy. Right, you can always lock a kid 389 00:26:53.759 --> 00:26:59.440 in a room or something, right, I mean it's not I don't know. 390 00:26:59.599 --> 00:27:02.759 Maybe well, And the thing is is, I mean it's not like 391 00:27:02.799 --> 00:27:07.240 you're asking for any different information than probably anybody else who they catch up with 392 00:27:07.400 --> 00:27:12.319 when their friends call or whatever. You know, and you're siblings. So 393 00:27:14.359 --> 00:27:17.400 for son, and what's been going on with you? What have you been 394 00:27:17.400 --> 00:27:21.880 working on? What you been doing? How's work? You know, how's 395 00:27:21.880 --> 00:27:26.880 your Christmas shopping coming? I don't know. Can you believe? Like seriously, 396 00:27:26.599 --> 00:27:30.480 a month, I know, I bought one gift, did you that's 397 00:27:30.519 --> 00:27:33.720 going to go under the tree? Oh yeah, I told you not to 398 00:27:33.799 --> 00:27:37.119 give it to me because you always ruined surprises. So I haven't been giving 399 00:27:37.119 --> 00:27:41.440 it to you for like a week. That's really good. That's like it's 400 00:27:41.440 --> 00:27:48.519 incredible progress. That's sex cho but no, it happened. But anyway, 401 00:27:48.599 --> 00:27:52.640 the gift I need to wrap, so I need to find wrapping paper. 402 00:27:52.640 --> 00:27:56.960 But yeah, and they have a whole thing of wrapping paper in the storage 403 00:27:56.960 --> 00:28:00.359 closet. Oh, which one we have five storage calis No, we have 404 00:28:00.400 --> 00:28:03.880 two doors the same storage closed. I have one. It's like Chronicles are 405 00:28:03.960 --> 00:28:07.839 Narnia. You open it and you're like, whoa, what is going on 406 00:28:07.920 --> 00:28:11.480 here? That is? That is the magical that is. The cats love 407 00:28:11.559 --> 00:28:15.960 going in there. They're like they come out of the like lions, full 408 00:28:15.000 --> 00:28:18.440 grown lions. They go in there, They're like, Wow. That is 409 00:28:18.480 --> 00:28:26.119 the representation of my ultimate skill set of organizing because I somehow figured out how 410 00:28:26.200 --> 00:28:33.440 to tetris in like three rooms like two closets and one like almost half room 411 00:28:33.680 --> 00:28:38.960 of stuff into underneath the stairs in that other store, in that storage closet. 412 00:28:40.119 --> 00:28:41.960 And you even told me because I was like, I want to get 413 00:28:41.000 --> 00:28:45.079 a weight bench, and you're like, it's not going downstairs about the TV 414 00:28:45.200 --> 00:28:48.160 where you think it's going, Hey, put in storage room And I'm like 415 00:28:48.400 --> 00:28:52.960 in the Chronicles of Narnia room. No, I'm not putting in another land, 416 00:28:52.079 --> 00:28:56.799 another universe you're talking about. It's not what you have to move. 417 00:28:59.240 --> 00:29:02.279 So what we did get a treadmill. So we did get a treadmill. 418 00:29:02.400 --> 00:29:07.519 We're getting it. Yeah, well we got Yeah, they took my money 419 00:29:07.519 --> 00:29:12.279 from it for it, so but yeah, I just have to wrap the 420 00:29:12.279 --> 00:29:17.279 present again. Back to the oa the Christmas gifts, and you got me 421 00:29:17.319 --> 00:29:19.480 one sort of already not sort of already. See how I did that? 422 00:29:19.519 --> 00:29:26.119 I want more gifts, I guess no. But you got some nice earrings, 423 00:29:26.680 --> 00:29:30.240 which are nice because I've never had nice earrings. And there was a 424 00:29:30.279 --> 00:29:33.759 comment about we didn't like those ones or this one or that one. I'm 425 00:29:33.759 --> 00:29:37.400 like, yeah, I am off Amazon. They're like three bucks. They 426 00:29:37.440 --> 00:29:40.279 suck, they hurt. My ears are all jacked up. But these are 427 00:29:40.279 --> 00:29:45.279 really nice and I like them a lot. I think, so appreciate that. 428 00:29:45.440 --> 00:29:49.000 Merry Christmas. Yeah, and then your one gift is going but I'm 429 00:29:49.000 --> 00:29:52.839 afraid to wrap it and put on the early because the cats, right, 430 00:29:55.279 --> 00:29:57.799 I don't know. Yeah, we got to get on that Christmas shopping because 431 00:29:57.839 --> 00:30:00.480 it's gonna be here quick. I can't believe. I can't believe this Thanksgiving 432 00:30:00.599 --> 00:30:04.880 just yesterday it was Halloween. I know I should I kind of can. 433 00:30:06.720 --> 00:30:11.240 I kind of been like into I've kind of been looking forward to the the 434 00:30:11.319 --> 00:30:18.279 Thanksgiving break. This will be my first break break from like start having started 435 00:30:18.319 --> 00:30:25.240 work regularly like diligently Monday through Friday seven. How much vacation time do you 436 00:30:25.279 --> 00:30:30.799 have? Do you can you use like like move it over to the next 437 00:30:30.839 --> 00:30:33.759 year, or do you have to use it? For it never goes away, 438 00:30:33.400 --> 00:30:38.799 you keep it, it keeps accruing. You don't have to use it. 439 00:30:40.000 --> 00:30:47.400 No, that's why I have vacation time, like a bank or whatever. 440 00:30:48.160 --> 00:30:52.599 Well, maybe we'll go somewhere in the spring, right hang out. 441 00:30:53.519 --> 00:30:59.480 Maybe not Seattle, like I like Seattle. The people are cool. Mm 442 00:30:59.559 --> 00:31:04.240 hmm. It's one of those we'll say Seattle and there's a box and we 443 00:31:04.440 --> 00:31:08.000 check that box. If we want to train the clown to climb Mount Everest, 444 00:31:08.079 --> 00:31:14.160 you go to Seattle for a weekend and just they know, everybody knows. 445 00:31:14.160 --> 00:31:17.359 It's not that bad. It's that bad, but it's challenging. You 446 00:31:17.359 --> 00:31:21.160 would do not want to go there if you have no if you have no 447 00:31:21.240 --> 00:31:25.960 desire to be able to actually do a little bit of physical work exercise, 448 00:31:26.079 --> 00:31:30.200 it's horrible. Good people though it was I don't know, it was kind 449 00:31:30.200 --> 00:31:34.759 of cool, but I just wish it would have rained more Anyway, that's 450 00:31:34.839 --> 00:31:37.680 enough of Seattle. If you want to hear more about the Seattle trip, 451 00:31:37.680 --> 00:31:41.319 you can go back to our August podcast and listen. Well, thanks for 452 00:31:41.359 --> 00:31:45.279 listening today. I want to call it I I'm going to reach out to 453 00:31:45.359 --> 00:31:49.880 mom family members this week. With Thanksgiving coming up, we'll do a podcast, 454 00:31:51.440 --> 00:31:52.559 probably from the North office, so I don't know if you'll be a 455 00:31:52.559 --> 00:31:56.319 part of that one. Okay, and maybe we can do a podcast while 456 00:31:56.359 --> 00:32:00.640 we're driving. Yeah, you do that. Always fun. It is always 457 00:32:00.640 --> 00:32:05.920 fun. But thanks for listening and the app all the website stuff. You 458 00:32:05.960 --> 00:32:08.400 know it right, two seventeen Recovery dot com. Appreciate it and we'll talk 459 00:32:08.400 --> 00:32:12.480 to you later. Thanks everybody, having a good night. Thanks for listening 460 00:32:12.599 --> 00:32:19.039 to the two seventeen Recovery podcast. We hope you come back for our next episode.