This It's the two seventeen Recovery Podcast with Corey Winfield. Stuff went numb.
That shouldn't go numb, you know what I'm saying. And I was like,
what is No? I don't, No, you don't and co holds
Marnie Winfield. It was kind of an awkward thing. He's like, would
you guys want come along? Can you get away to come to the island.
I'm like, yeah, you just got back from there. It is
the nineteenth of November twenty twenty three. My name is Corey Winfield. My
name is Marnie Winfield, and this is the two seventeen Recovery Podcast. Marnie,
it feels great to have you back as co host. It's been way
too long. I've been doing it from the North Studio, just the office
with Justin and Adam and Mitch, and just feels good to have you back
with the group with the goof Troop. Yeah, because I was like,
I don't listen to the podcast often, but I went back. I listened
to the other day from Friday, and usually when I get there on the
podcast, I'm like, that's all right. I guess some people are like,
no, that was a really good one. And I'm like, yeah,
and Justin was like it was a good one. Yeah, And I
listened to it and I actually made myself laugh good And at the time I
just said what I was saying. But then I listened to it and it
was pretty funny. It was around the sixteen minute mark into it. Okay,
so it was Friday Friday, Fabulous, Fabulous Friday Fantasy or something his
name of it. But it was pretty silly. No, I plant I
want to listen to more of them. I need to make time. I
need to commit to make time to listen to the ones you guys do there
because they are good. They are good. I joke about the goof troop
thing. I mean they are goofy, but that's part of why. It's
part of fun and recovery, right yeah, and so no, I think
it it works, so yeah, but sometimes we just go off the path
a little too far. But you're right, are having fun in recovery.
But sometimes it's just good to talk about recovery and stuff with you. So
I don't knowraether you spend more time doing them than listening to them. So
I'm just saying putting it out there. Got it? Now? The other
day. Actually this morning, I was laying in bed, That's what I
was thinking about. What were you thinking about? I was thinking about everybody
doing pretty good stuff, and I was thinking about how everybody into seventeen Recovery
has grown over the past six months, and just seeing I mean, you,
you know, you're growing into a new role. You know, that's
awesome. You're not at the office as much, right which I think we're
all kind of sad about that. Yeah, And then you know, Mitch
is growing. He's kind of taken over the volunteer role of you know,
assembling the volunteers. He goes to Save Harbor and he volunteers himself there to
help people who are what do they call it house on house? Is that
they're saying that, I guess. And then and then some people have problems
with substances. So he goes there and just is like, hey, if
you guys need some help, I can point you in the right direction.
That's good. You know, there's nothing in it for us, you know,
except the feel good part of it. So he's doing that. He's
stepping up, you know, Adam when he started, you know, being
the recovery coach that he is. We didn't know there was going to be
so many opportunities for him to do rides, and there are, and he
actually loves that part now. And at first he was kind of like stand
offish with it, but now, you know, he was telling me the
other day in my office and he's just like the conversations we have with people,
and I think he feels like I felt so many times, like,
man, if we could just put a camera in these cars, yeah,
and show people the difference we're making and the conversations we're having with people,
yeah, it would blow their mind. People would be wanting to help us
left and write, hey man, here here you guys do great. We
need to support you because it is that changing and it's just that important to
someone as they're going to or from treatment, and you know, still to
see him go from well I don't really know what to talk about with these
people, to like on it and just being able to relate one on one
and having those great conversations. He really looks forward to it. The same
thing with Justin, you know, like he kind of had that already feel
good stuff. And Justin said to me a long time ago, before he
was working with us full time, he was just like, man, I
just wish I could do this every day, like the cat. Okay,
well, you're gonna have cats. I mean, you can only have a
badass studio if you share it with the rest of your house. Yep,
that's how this works. So sometimes a cat, he has a big wheels,
he's exercising for me today and he just jumps on this wheel and he's
going and going and going. Of the twenty four hours in a day that
we this cat has the opportunity he has chosen this very moment to actually use
that thing. We actually had to start the podcast over because we weren't really
sure what we were talking about, and we're like, let's just start it
over. But we had started. We were maybe a couple of minutes and
not very far and they got behind the fireplace TV stand that's in the corner
with no TV on it, and they got behind it and they were just
hanging back there and knocking stuff off. And there's a candle, like a
wax candle thing on there, and I don't want to burn them, so
you move that. And then they started to turn the fireplace on the heat
part and they came flying out of there. So yeah, so now he's
doing the wheel so well, now he's done so those short workout. Yeah,
but nope, nope, nope, herey comps. Just kidding, he
just catching his breath anyway, justin though, has come a long way,
but he's already had that part in. I already already said this. Let
me go back to wrom Oh. He said, I wish I could just
drive people every day. I wish I could just do this every day.
And I was like, we'll be careful what you wish for. Now he
does, and yeah, you know he's starting to get the calls and people
call him. Now I have them, you know, call him and set
the rides up. And then he does make sure all the paper, all
the stuffs entered. You know, there's a system that we have, it's
called RDP, and we kind of put stuff in there to kind of let
the state know, hey, here's what we're doing. And you know,
we got to track stuff because if we just said, yeah, we get
people rides, so we'd be like, okay, well what do you mean
right, So we'd like put in there what we talk about. You know,
we don't put like the whole conversation or anything, but just like Hey,
do we talk about housing, Do we talk about so we're living?
You know, do we talk about food or you know, just what our
conversation was. And you know, you go through and you put that stuff
in there, and just to make sure all that stuff's in there now and
I don't know, things are going really well, and even me myself a
little pat on the back because it was a few months ago. And then
I, of course blame it on the system, blame on everything else.
I coryed it this grant that we were going to write and I will last
minute it, just like Corey does. I'll get it in nicked time.
Well, I wrote everything and that was cool, but then I want to
put it in nicked time, and then stuff I wasn't lining up. I
didn't have things right. And if you ever had a grant that you submitted
to the State of Michigan, which I'm sure maybe you haven't, but if
you have, it can be frustrating. They don't have just the system like
they have on grant stat Gov where you just enter the things and there you
go. No, it's yeah, but being the first time I was using
it, I should have given myself. I don't know, maybe three days
or two, and then I kind of blame on the system. Well,
I was junk. It was messed up because they wouldn't allow me to do
this and this and that, and I was frustrated. And in this time,
I want to put myself on the back twice because I was smart enough
to reach out for help, go for you. And I reached out to
Kathy, and I would say, where Kathy works, But I don't want
it to be like, oh, Kathy, I don't want that to define
hers where she works, like Kathy from GTB, that's Kathy Tannan. But
no, she did such a great job kind of helping us, and I'm
so grateful that I met her. Yeah, I'm grateful that she's been throwing
it out there for quite a while, like, hey, you know,
I could help you with some grants. I could write some grants. And
so this time I was smart enough to go, I'm going to reach out
for some help. And I hate asking for help, you know this,
And so that was kind of a big deal. And like I said,
I'm just grateful to know Kathy and to have met her and worked with her
and Scott on the GTB Reservation Conversation podcast. Getting them started, and Scott's
last one was pretty emotional, but it was nice. And so for me
to have the foresight, is that what I'm looking for her, I'm looking
for insight. No, I think you're right to have the foresight to ask
her for help or just to ask for help and then to use her and
then to spend the time. I needed to kind of tweak the other things
that need to be tweaked so we could submit it. We did, and
now we don't know if we've gotten it, but at least it's submitted,
you know. And so I kind of look at that like, hey,
I've grown too, you know. And then watching the guys and the blogs
and how they're getting so much better at writing them and getting them done,
it is just it's pretty cool. It adds more character to to seventeen recovery.
It adds another extension of what we do at two seventeen recovery dot com.
If you haven't read the blogs, I suggest you do. My ratings
on the bottom have nothing to do with the if it's a good a blog
or not. It's just throwing that out there. I just read them and
then I comment. Sometimes I'm harsh on purpose, for other reasons, and
that's just kind of a fun game I play with the guys. But they're
all pretty good blogs, so read them. And you can't really do a
blog wrong. That's the thing, right, It's just how they're feeling.
So that's kind of a nice thing about this morning. In a nutshell.
I think that's great, and I think that you're spot on on all of
it, really, But you know your position, you know, being the
you know, executive officer of you know, to seventeen, you didn't even
know what all that entailed really until it did. And you know, there's
lots of little bits and pieces and big bits and pieces that need to happen,
and you're not a professional at some of that stuff, and sometimes you
need to look at the people that do that for their job to help out,
like accountants or grant writers or you know things like that. Yeah,
but yeah, you got it in on time, and Kathy's amazing and so
I feel really good about it. But you played a big part in interacting
and getting her the material and you know, going over it with her and
then cross checking and all that good stuff. So yeah, she did a
lot of it on her own. I didn't go do too much. I
sent her some things and said, this is what we're doing. But but
she kind of knew, I think the gist of it, and she did
a really good job though. I feel pretty confident too. And we had
a visit from a couple of people from DHHS and they liked what we were
doing, and they loved her office. They loved the whole scene there,
and you know, they loved how clean it was, they said, and
just how welcoming it was and inviting. And I told them the ideas of
the stuff I want to do and hopefully we can do that, and you
know, hopefully we can keep moving forward with that. I don't see why
we couldn't, Right, that's the plan. Yeah, to look into other
avenues of funding, you know, different grants and different things. And you
know, we do the transportation. You know, it could get a little
bit of funds in there, but not a lot because it's not meant to
make us millions of dollars. It's meant to get people to treatment, right,
you know, weak charge for the state rate, the government rate for
gas mileage, and you know, tires cost money. You know, other
things do cost money. But you know, so we're not making a ton
off that at all. You know, if any I don't know, it'll
it'll come around. And I really want to get I don't know something with
video going, man, I'm telling you that's where it's at. And now
to talking about like a podcast, I'm talking about just like I don't even
know. They'll come up with them, I'm sure. Yeah, And maybe
maybe it doesn't even evolve to seventeen. Maybe I get with my friend Ron
Robinson and you know, his his movie or his documentary is going to be
available on Amazon and Reveal, So we'll look for that. Once I see
it, I'll talk about it more. Yeah, I say, I mean
it's about radio and Detroit. Yeah, And I'm just proud of them for
going through the steps, and a lot of people we'll talk about things and
oh I want to do this and I want to do that. But to
see Ron say that. And Ron's been talking about making a movie for a
while, like just with him and me and like writing it and doing some
funny stuff. But we see people talk about things over and over and some
people I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna do that, and then they never
do. They get old and die. But Ron was like, no f
that I'm going to do this. I'm making my documentary movie. I'm gonna
get a hold lot of these people and I'm going to go up to radio
stations and film them and to their houses. And he went all over the
state talking to these people. And it was just very cool that he did
it. And sir, I mean, certain people probably laughed at him.
I thought he was being silly, but he didn't care, and he did
it and he finished it and now look at him. Yeah, you know,
he's gonna have it published on there. He said he submitted it for
it was a film festival. I don't think it was Detroit's film festival.
It was some film festival that he submitted it to. That's awesome, yeah,
but to actually do it, you know, And I told my admire
them for that, and a lot of people say that I did kind of
the same thing. But you know, with starting two seventeen recovery and I'm
just like, man, we're just getting started. Like there's a lot of
things I want to do. There's different ways I want to help people too,
and we'll see, yeah, but it's very inspiring. Absolutely. Anyway,
I've been talking for a lot of minutes. This thing moved on me,
so I don't have the time exactly a lot of minutes I've been talking.
So how about you, Marti, how are you today? I'm good,
I'm really good. Things are going well at my new position. So
I am a clinical therapist now for the women's program. You're in Traverse City
residential and so it's adjusting to a schedule, a different schedule, and there's
a lot of kind of dundancy, but at the same time, every day
is different. So yeah, I really like it. I like it.
I like helping. I mean, I was exactly where those ladies were at
at one point. So you know, there's a lot of relatability, and
you know, it's it's it's really natural. It's a really natural position for
me to be in. And yeah, so and there's some challenges, you
know, because there's some you know, people who are some some some are
sicker than others. I will just say that. But overall, it's a
really good group of ladies and they tend to get along really well. In
our max capacity is ten so but even though they're all my clients, but
that's still so it's kind of a lot. It's a caseload for that particular
platform of treatment. But I really enjoy it. I'm enjoying it. It
just it keeps me busy and it wears me out. Though. Is the
other piece too, Like when you start your day early, Yeah, you're
going at like three am. No, I didn't go in it. No
I go I go in at seven or seven fifteen. That is what I've
been going in to work at. Sometimes I have seven o'clock scheduled depends,
but then I try to wrap up my day earlier. It just it seems
like that is what works for me better. And but I'm just like be
I'm just whooped. Like it seems like, you know, and I've been
trying to do you know, better self care stuff like that, and I
don't know, and join the new house, it's you know, I got
to give a tour virtual tour of the house to my brother and my sister
over FaceTime today. I haven't talked to them in a long time, so
it was good to kind of touch base. And they're all busy doing their
own thing and so it's kind of hard to connect. But you talk to
him for a while, see you shot to them, like I don't talk
to about older brother ever, like over about some cats or something on Facebook.
We will my younger brother. Don't really talk to him ever. Sister,
same thing. Well if you you were only president for a short bit
of it. So mostly it was my brother saying hi, he saw the
house through the tour, and then he said he had to leave because they
were on a hike in Arizona because they're on vacation. He goes on vacation,
so they weren't even he didn't really stick around. I didn't get an
update on him or really how he's doing. But other than the fact he's
on vacation in Arizona, my sister, I got a total crash update on
her, just saying crash meeting, like I hadn't really hadn't known what she's
been up to for the past five or six months. Okay, yeah,
just keep me pulse it. Yeah, it was like that. It was
like it was like, you know, not only did I mean, I
hear a lot of it about what's going on with her through my mom.
So it's like kind of unfair because it's like I don't feel as kept in
the dark even though I should, because I haven't heard them from her mouth.
Because as far as I'm concerned, I didn't even know she's like dating
anybody or what's going on. Well, come to find out she said all
these new progressions in this relationship, and like, you know, so I
love social media, and you know, she's got her own personal struggles,
struggles with her you know, with her life and relationships and you know,
going through divorce and so on and so forth, and the kids are struggling.
So and these are all just natural problems. You know. It's nothing
bad she's done or anything she's handled poorly. It's just you know, going
through, going through the going through the motions. I guess of life.
You get what I'm saying. And so she gave me, you know,
her ups and downs of what's been going on, and that's good. So
I feel more, I guess more in the loop met Yeah thanks taronh Yeah
he gets it. Yeah, those were pretty good drops, I should say
timely. But now I heard you guys talking, I was like, Okay,
I think there's football on downstairs. I better go watch it, because
yeah, it's nice to check in with family, but that's something I don't
do as much as I probably should. And I saw a mutual friend of
ours, Christina, she posted something and she has lost her mom and she
just kind of put on there like I don't know. It was really sad,
and it commade me like cheer up a little bit. And then I
started thinking, like I don't ever reach out to my mom, you know.
So I had see my mom text and was like, hey, what's
up. Well she didn't reply till the next day and she's like, what's
going on. I was like, oh, I'm just in this gambling addiction
some of our web meeting thing and she was like nothing. And then later
I just get an update for my sister. And maybe that's why it's because
like it's just I don't ever talk to my mom and just be like,
how are you doing? Like I don't care about Kylie, I don't care
about Travis or Jerry or what they're doing. I want to know how you're
doing. And that's something And not that I'm a therapist or anything, but
I think sometimes it would be nice for her just to go here's how I'm
doing, you know, without the whole well this is going on, your
sister did this blah blah blah blah, you know, and that's her life
and I get it, but I think it would probably be a relief for
her to step out of that for a minute too, just having a conversation
with her favorite child, you know, one that used to drive her nuts
and now who's got some good stuff going on in his life. You know,
like that's I'm the kid who she needs to be talking to all the
time, just saying it's a truth. Well, it sounded a little bit
like you might have a plan on making that irregular conversation. Okay, yeah,
just give me post it. Well there you go. That's great because
things like that don't happen unless you put them in motion. And we have
a chance to do this this week because it's Thanksgiving week. We're going down
and see the family and all that good stuff my family anyway, and then
we're coming back with your family, and then we have to, you know,
talk to your dad. Unfortunately we don't won't be able to meet up
with him over Thanksgiving, but I'll have a chance, you know, downstate.
I'll be with my father and stepmom, and then I'll be with my
dad and or said that, with my mom and my stepdad and the other
siblings and stuff. I'll have a chance to really sit down and open up
with them this weekend and just be like, how are you doing? I'm
must send everyone I'm down and like, no, no, how are you
doing? That's good? I like it, that's great, and be like
what's wrong with you? They're gonna be like are you okay? What is
this? Where's the camera? Like? Where's a little weird? Now?
What's going on? Is he drinking again? As he showed up? If
you want? Nah? But yeah, but I want to make it more
of an effort. And your mom is doing something cool, well, at
least I don't know. It'll probably be you and your sister I assume maybe,
or just you. But your mom wants to do like video chats with
your siblings like once a week or something. And is that too much to
ask? Absolutely not, you know, And there'll be times where you'll be
like, oh, I don't want to be on this or don't want to
do this call, but I think it'll be fun, you know. And
I look at that like that'd be cool with me and my siblings. I
don't know. I think mom should set a time. You know, it's
like Sundays at five, you want to chat, let's get on it.
You know, and just send it out to everybody. If they answer,
they answer. If they don't, they don't, right, you know,
but even if it's for just like hey, I'm in the middle of taking
the dump, but I'll call you back later, or I can't talk this
week, or I don't know, right, I'm bad with examples. Maybe
like we got our Christmas We get our Christmas tree up here, look at
it. Yeah, you know, just to kind of go through that kind
of thing, and I don't know, to feel more connected. Yeah,
I wish our family would do that, And I'm going to suggest that this
weekend. You know, it is it is kind of one of those things
where it's like and I'm not trying to be more better or anything, but
like if something were to happen, like you know, random, randomly,
and like my sister who's in like the epitome of health or something happened,
and I'm just thinking, like I haven't talked to her in like six months,
you know, like that's unacceptable. Why would I not She was there,
I'm here. It's a phone call like maybe like it's pressing literally using
your thumb to get into contact with somebody. And so yeah, so I
mean I think it's important. Now is this this is another question I have.
Are you supposed to talk to your siblings? Are you supposed to?
Well, I mean we don't have children, so right, the siblings.
I guess my oder brother Jerry doesn't, but I don't know the other siblings
in our lives. They have children running around? And does that make it
harder to pick up the phone or is that is that just an excuse not
to pick of the phone. I mean, I'm sure it does. I'm
sure. I'm sure it adds to the things that you have to you know,
juggle. But and this is kind of your going back to what you
said originally. Is like even if it's just like hey, what's up?
Like hey love you guys, busy or hey love you guys. Look,
this is the painting and painting this wall, or you know, whatever it
is you're doing on that Sunday making you know, chicken bake for dinner,
which I did today. Meanwhile, it's delicious. I should share that recipe
on your page? Should Yeah? Right, I hope you Let's do that
next week? Oh my god, Thanksgiving? But soon we'll do that.
Yeah, So I don't know. I mean, it's it's a good thought.
And even if it's not once a week, even if it's once a
month, you know, as like a check in, if people can make
an effort, I think it's something. I mean, I tend to check
in with my mom more than anyone else in my family. And I think
once you start doing that, when you don't, it feels odd, like
something's wrong, like you're missing something like you're supposed to, you know what
I mean, which I think is great because you know, and we only
really re establish that kind of closeness and connectedness when I got solder, you
know, for real, the other parts of my life it was her trying
to chase me down and make sure I was alive. So kind of a
whole different light on it. And we're actually like enjoying each other's company and
and I, you know, I help her out with saying she needs help
with and you know, she's there for me, you know, as a
mom and as a friend, and it's great. So, yeah, you
talked to her quite a bit. I don't know. I just when I
saw Christina's post thought, I just thought, one day, you know,
if you go through like every little history of the world, I'm going to
miss the time that I wasted of not picking up the phone and saying hello.
Yeah. So I'd like to have a priority this week when I talk
to people at Thanksgiving, you know, just to be like yep. But
I just sometimes think, oh, well, they're all so busy. But
I don't think they're that busy. Right, you can always lock a kid
in a room or something, right, I mean it's not I don't know.
Maybe well, And the thing is is, I mean it's not like
you're asking for any different information than probably anybody else who they catch up with
when their friends call or whatever. You know, and you're siblings. So
for son, and what's been going on with you? What have you been
working on? What you been doing? How's work? You know, how's
your Christmas shopping coming? I don't know. Can you believe? Like seriously,
a month, I know, I bought one gift, did you that's
going to go under the tree? Oh yeah, I told you not to
give it to me because you always ruined surprises. So I haven't been giving
it to you for like a week. That's really good. That's like it's
incredible progress. That's sex cho but no, it happened. But anyway,
the gift I need to wrap, so I need to find wrapping paper.
But yeah, and they have a whole thing of wrapping paper in the storage
closet. Oh, which one we have five storage calis No, we have
two doors the same storage closed. I have one. It's like Chronicles are
Narnia. You open it and you're like, whoa, what is going on
here? That is? That is the magical that is. The cats love
going in there. They're like they come out of the like lions, full
grown lions. They go in there, They're like, Wow. That is
the representation of my ultimate skill set of organizing because I somehow figured out how
to tetris in like three rooms like two closets and one like almost half room
of stuff into underneath the stairs in that other store, in that storage closet.
And you even told me because I was like, I want to get
a weight bench, and you're like, it's not going downstairs about the TV
where you think it's going, Hey, put in storage room And I'm like
in the Chronicles of Narnia room. No, I'm not putting in another land,
another universe you're talking about. It's not what you have to move.
So what we did get a treadmill. So we did get a treadmill.
We're getting it. Yeah, well we got Yeah, they took my money
from it for it, so but yeah, I just have to wrap the
present again. Back to the oa the Christmas gifts, and you got me
one sort of already not sort of already. See how I did that?
I want more gifts, I guess no. But you got some nice earrings,
which are nice because I've never had nice earrings. And there was a
comment about we didn't like those ones or this one or that one. I'm
like, yeah, I am off Amazon. They're like three bucks. They
suck, they hurt. My ears are all jacked up. But these are
really nice and I like them a lot. I think, so appreciate that.
Merry Christmas. Yeah, and then your one gift is going but I'm
afraid to wrap it and put on the early because the cats, right,
I don't know. Yeah, we got to get on that Christmas shopping because
it's gonna be here quick. I can't believe. I can't believe this Thanksgiving
just yesterday it was Halloween. I know I should I kind of can.
I kind of been like into I've kind of been looking forward to the the
Thanksgiving break. This will be my first break break from like start having started
work regularly like diligently Monday through Friday seven. How much vacation time do you
have? Do you can you use like like move it over to the next
year, or do you have to use it? For it never goes away,
you keep it, it keeps accruing. You don't have to use it.
No, that's why I have vacation time, like a bank or whatever.
Well, maybe we'll go somewhere in the spring, right hang out.
Maybe not Seattle, like I like Seattle. The people are cool. Mm
hmm. It's one of those we'll say Seattle and there's a box and we
check that box. If we want to train the clown to climb Mount Everest,
you go to Seattle for a weekend and just they know, everybody knows.
It's not that bad. It's that bad, but it's challenging. You
would do not want to go there if you have no if you have no
desire to be able to actually do a little bit of physical work exercise,
it's horrible. Good people though it was I don't know, it was kind
of cool, but I just wish it would have rained more Anyway, that's
enough of Seattle. If you want to hear more about the Seattle trip,
you can go back to our August podcast and listen. Well, thanks for
listening today. I want to call it I I'm going to reach out to
mom family members this week. With Thanksgiving coming up, we'll do a podcast,
probably from the North office, so I don't know if you'll be a
part of that one. Okay, and maybe we can do a podcast while
we're driving. Yeah, you do that. Always fun. It is always
fun. But thanks for listening and the app all the website stuff. You
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