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Him Billy cunning in the Great American
Welcome this Friday afternoon of the tries day

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to terrible weather once again, go
to warm up this weekend in good ways.

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Coming in about an hour is Leland
Viddard of News Nation. This is

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relatable to the NPR and one of
the executive editors NPR has taken NPR to

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task for being so liberal, not
just liberal, but progressive and left of

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that. And I know there was
eighty seven registered Democrats working for NPR.

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How many Republicans are independence The answer
is zero. So it was advocacy journalism.

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It wasn't actually fact based. It
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to be. And unlike Channel five, unlike WLWT television, we pay for

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NPR. Unbelievable joining you and I
now is the main anchor at Channel five,

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that is Shari Pololo and Shari Pololo
welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show.

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And Chari, how are you?
I'm great, Willie? How are

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you doing? Two or three big
issues are happening? Are you ready to

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accept my questions and provide coaching answers? I'll do my best right now.

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Many families in March and April are
spending their time picking a college for their

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son or daughter to go to.
And I know, I think you related

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on the era with me that you
had a son that wanted to, of

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course go to college, and which
may be a good idea, maybe a

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bad idea, depending upon how you
want to live your life, but you

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took them to Miami. Now,
as a parent, how do you process

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the murders, sexual assaults, car
break ins, and the other arm robberies

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happening in and around the UC campus
as a parent? Take off your anchor

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hat, put on a parent hat. How do you process what's happening at

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UC? Yeah, well it's easy
for me, WILLI, because you know

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I have three boys, one is
a UC student, and then I have

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a junior who right now we are
visiting college campuses and he's deciding where he

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wants to go. And you know, sadly, I worry every single day

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about my son who's up there at
UC. And uh, I think I've

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told you before. His apartment was
broken into last year, a kid in

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this sche mask, a guy in
a ski mask. But it's what we

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see too often in the news business
that really worries me. And I've told

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my middle son. Hey, we've
visited Ohio State, we went to Miami

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last week. He had we had
set up to go to UC this past

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yesterday actually, and we canceled because
he's a different kid. He first of

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all, is not you know,
one who kind of loves like that inner

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city, you know, lifestyle.
And I said, I know you,

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you'll you will be afraid. And
I hate to say that, but my

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oldest son considered transferring last year.
Look, they have a crime problem.

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And the thing that I think is
sad is we see it too often where

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the university will say, well,
it happened off campus, Well will you

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and I've talked about this. The
reality is that housing because they have so

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many students that they were not prepared
for housing where the kids eat, where

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they party, it's all technically off
campus. And yes, we saw it

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a few weeks ago where this business
student, he was a third year business

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student, was shot and killed while
trying to stop someone who was stealing his

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car, breaking into his car and
trying to take off with it. That

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happened farther off campus. That was
technically well was Mount Alburn. But you

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still have so many other robberies and
fast and things that are going on around

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campus that sadly just don't get addressed. And I can't tell you how many

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parents email me reach out to us
and say you have to do something.

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I mean, we had a student
just earlier this week who talked with our

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Lindsay Stone. A group of students
who started their own online social media page

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to alert each other because they feel
like they don't get updated enough on what's

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really going on. So unless there
is a shooting around campus or some sort

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of crime like that, they don't
get alert and they want to know if

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cars are getting broken into, or
if kids are getting robbed, you know,

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just off of campus. And the
sad thing is that this is what

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happens. You have people who come
from the outside targeting these students because they

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know they have cell phones, they
have money. I mean, we just

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had last June the landscaper who it
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who is doing landscaping for uptown properties. Middle of the day, some guy

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walks up to him says, give
me your money, he doesn't have any,

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and he gets shot in the head
dead. It's a forty three year

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old landscaper who was supposed to have
a birthday, you know, a week

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later and it's you know, sadly
his family is left without him, And

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so I think the bigger concern to
me is a yes, you know,

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you see, police can't be patrolling
off campus, but they can do a

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better job around campus. And then
it has to be teaming up with Cincinnati

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police, and goodness knows, the
university is making plenty of money that they

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can bring in more officers to help
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and I have other parents who are
deciding where they're you know, juniors and

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seniors are going to go to school, and I have a lot of them

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say to me, what do you
think would you send now your your junior

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there? Would you send my seventh
I also a seventh grader. Look,

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I knew about the crime issues at
the University of Cincinnati before my now sophomore

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went there. He was but he
loves that school. I love that school.

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It's they have a great business program, of course, a great medical

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school. It's a great university.
But there is a crime problem, and

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yes, that comes with a lot
of schools, universities that are centered around

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the city. Ohio State has it. I'm sure UK has it. But

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you have to come out and do
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human element, Willie, where as
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you just had a business student shot
and killed two weeks ago, and I

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still haven't seen anybody from UC coming
out as a human being saying we are

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devastated that we lost one of our
own. I watched some of the interviews

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that happened that Lindsay Stone's report was
wonderful. I would hope that you see

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itself stick head in the sand,
would get their head out of their sand

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and say, you know what,
we got a terrible crime problem and it's

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got to stop. Part of it
is that we have an Hamley County juvenile

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court system now that doesn't believe in
locking up kids for vicious crimes. That

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these aren't kids dealing reesy bars from
Walmart. This seventeen year old picked up

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in the murder of Benjamin Addison from
Turpin High School. I watched the interviews

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that you conducted. Maybe it was
one of your reporters with the mom and

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that they had went to Turpin.
Good kid. He worked in the library,

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he was an orientation specialist for new
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he confronted those two thugs, those
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And I think now you have to
tell kids, hey, by the way,

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if somebody breaks into your car or
commits a property crime, accept it.

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Do not confront them because you get
on a juvenile court, and juvenile

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court Hamlet County has a hands off
approach to crime. And that's not the

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case. It would be helpful if
you see itself would say it takes a

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student to organize this thing, and
I would think co eds that you see

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or even more at risk. You
cannot consent to a rape or sexual assault

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or a murder. You can't consent
to have your property stolen. How many

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times are kids coming out and the
gun's put upside someone's head, Give me

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your money, and the best thing
to do is say, yes, sir,

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here it is. And you have
to tell your students that if your

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car's being stolen, do not confront
murderers. They're not dealt with well.

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And that's the sadness of life that
you see. And it's going to get

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worse because juvenile court doesn't lock anybody
up anymore. The seventeen year old is

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down there now and Melissa Powers wants
to try him as an adult. But

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unless the kids bound over, he
won't be tried as an adult. He'll

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be going at the age of twenty
one. That seventeen year old hasn't been

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in school since his freshman year.
And you know now you and of course

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you know his a defense attorney set
in court. Well, he has no

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prior record, you know God,
And that's I think the point. It's

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like, well, you don't go
from stealing a car and then shooting,

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shooting and killing someone. I mean, you must have done this before and

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just gotten away with it. And
again there presumably is the second person out

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there, because the seventeen year old
who was arrested, who I believe police

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they was the shooter who was in
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There was another person in that car. So it is hard breaking, I

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tell you what, Willy, that
story rocked me because as a parent of

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a UC student, and not to
mention that family that was their only child,

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he was an only child shot and
killed. Well, they drove back

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from being out on Saturday night together
with a group of friends and get back

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to a friend's apartment and interrupt someone
stealing their car. Who would think they're

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going to be shot and killed over
that. I mean, what one of

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us would not say, what are
you doing? Stop? Stop right right?

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And I do that. And you
know, I told my my UC

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student, I said, you do
not if somebody if you're walking out of

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a bar, you give them whatever
they want. If they're stealing your car.

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He doesn't have a car down there, but his roommates do tell them

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to take the car, you know, and you hate to do that because

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of course then these kids are going
to be targets because everybody knows they're not

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going to fight them, but or
challenge them. It is a problem in

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that, you know. I hate
it for I think it's just such a

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black eye on this university. And
like I said, where is the leadership

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to come out and say, we're
not going to tolerate this. We're teaming

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up with Cincinnati Police, We're doing
everything we can. We're meeting with Chief

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DG. We know we have got
to protect our students. There are our

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top privorate ority, you know,
and we just don't hear that. Maybe

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those conversations are going on behind closed
doors. But I think as a parent

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of a UC student and as a
leader in this community, I want to

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see it. Yeah, because I
will tell you it makes you second guess

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having your kids go there. Well
maybe, And in this case, I'm

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very much pushing my second son to
go to Miami, to go to MTU,

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to go to another school where there's
not that kind of a crime problem

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or concern. I mean, I
have alerts that come onto my phone every

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night. I sleep with my phone
on because I'm afraid something's going to happen

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on that campus. And you went
to NK, you I went to Xavier

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zavior has its own crime problem,
not as bad as you see. And

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then Miami is in the domain of
Richard K. Jones. I have a

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sense that if a kid goes to
Miami, the odds are getting shot or

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robbed almost non existent. NKU,
I'm sure has crime, but not the

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kinds of crimes happening on a regular
basis a U see. And the key

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element is to have the university leadership
get with their campus police and CPD and

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get to juvenile court and saying this
cannot stand because right now you can break

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into cars and steal cars all day
and there's no consequence in juvenile court because

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one thing leads to the other and
right now. Judge Kerry Bloom, who's

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the administrative judge in Hamlet County,
will freely tell you she's done with the

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high school to prison pipeline. Well, there's one kid here, the seventeen

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year old I had on I run
out of write about three months ago.

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About seventy percent of black males are
chronically absent a CPS seventy percent. And

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what are they doing all day?
And this is one example. He's not

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been to school since he was fourteen, doesn't work. What do you do

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all day when you're fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, other than drink, smoke

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and go out there and commit crimes
because it's culturally acceptable in some quarters the

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face of crime and Cincinnati exactly why
that's that's the reason. Yeah, truely,

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that's exactly why I say to my
boys. If you don't have if

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you're not playing a sport in high
school for one season or at all,

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you're working the minute you can work, because you don't need that much time

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on your hands. My kids are
all good students, they're all you know,

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have all been involved in extracurriculars.
But when they decided my two older

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boys decided to not play football,
I said, all right, you're getting

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a job because you don't need Monday
through Friday to come home at three o'clock

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in the afternoon, because I know
you're not steadying for six hours, So

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you know, I agree with you. Look, and the superintendent, she

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has taken heat because she has made
changes that maybe teachers and staffers don't like.

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But I tell you what, We've
had her on our four o'clock show

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many times. She is tough,
and I always chat with my colleagues and

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I really like her because she's transparent. She talks about the problem of getting

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kids at CPS to go to school, not just the being late to go

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to school, I mean the amount
of kids who are not going to school

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within Cincinnati, the city of Cincinnati
is shocking and concerning because again, just

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like you said, Willie, if
they're not in school learning, what are

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they doing smoking into trouble, smoking, drinking? An idle mind is the

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devil's workshop, and there's lots of
work to do, and it's a terrible.

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Well, look what happened on Easter
Sunday night downtown when you had five

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hundred kids wouding in downtown Cincinnati,
shooting guns. I cop told me they

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were shooting at barges, and they
were shooting at things, and knives are

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out, fistfights are taking place,
ransacking certain restaurants like Morline, and the

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cops show up, and a cop
told me, look, we're told don't

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arrest anybody unless it is absolutely required, because if they focus on one or

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two or three kids getting arrested,
there's two or three hundred more doing other

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stuff. So there's no arrest.
When you get to juvenile court under Judge

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carry Bloom, there's no consequence,
there's no punishment, and then you're released

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to kind of laugh and snicker and
go back to your lifestyle. And somehow

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Cincinnati we're about ten years behind Chicago, Portland, Atlanta, Washington, DC.

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But we're gonna get there unless we
change fundamentally and begins with leadership like

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at UC to tell their students when
crime. I was told one reason they

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don't do that is just too many
crimes. And all they're going to get

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is every hour on the hour,
there'll be more warnings and threats. That's

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a problem too. As a prompt, And to your point about the teenagers

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who were you know, hundreds of
them on Easter Sunday, that evening.

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I mean what a ripple effect is
that you have businesses who, you know,

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feel that when there are crowds of
teenagers who are getting doing nothing but

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probably you know, getting into trouble
or at least you know, intimidating people

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who are down there, you know. And then you have people from the

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suburbs who say, well, I'm
not going to go down there, but

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if I feel like it's not safe
along the banks, right, So it

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really is such a ripple effect.
And you're right. I have Cincinnati Police

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officers who talk to me about it
all the time. A friend of mine

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said, and listen, I have
CPD officers who are in my family and

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Hamilton County deputies. And I've had
friends of mine who say, look,

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your definition of a twelve year old
or a thirteen year old is much different

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than mine, because the kids that
were dealing with Tuauten, who are involved

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in these shootings are involved in,
you know, activities your kids haven't even

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heard about, you know, because
it is a different life for these kids.

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They have parents who either aren't around
or aren't involved many of them,

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or the ones who are trying to
keep them away from that element. Because

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it does suck them in. When
your friends are on the streets and they're

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making money by being a drug runner
or or something else, you're bound to

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You're bound to get sucked into that
activity where it starts out as just a

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little thing that you're just going to
try to make a little money because maybe

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your family isn't able to provide and
you have no really guidance in your household.

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When you come home, no one's
there looking out for you. Of

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course you're going to get into trouble. And it is such a ripple effect.

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We got to run Sharia Palula.
I want to talk to you about

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Joe Burrow's alien comments. I guess
he believes in aliens visiting Earth. Joe

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Burrow. I want to talk about
a former teacher pleading guilty to having sucks

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with a student who says I'm going
to continue the relationship. I wanted to

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talk to you about Middletown could allow
marijuana businesses to set up shop and more,

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but we'll save that for another day. Charie Pullelo, once again,

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thank you for coming on the Bill
Cunningham Show. Give my, give my

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best of Mike and the k rob
all right, I sure will love you

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Willy have a great weekend. God
bless America. Let's continue with more.

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The line becomes available five one,
three, seven, four nine, seven

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thousand. My comments are next and
more at your home. Of the Reds

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playing in Chicago tonight, I think
air time's about six forty A. News

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radio seven hundred WLW