My husband woke up one morning to the wolf's going off. His eyes were
still blurry. He had just woke up. The wolves woke them up.
He looked out that side window at the wolves, and there was this big
black figure back there and my barrel wolf. He was an easy one hundred
and sixty pounds. He was big, and he wanted to eat that thing.
And my husband said, he don't know if it saw him, the
thing saw him through the window, or if it sensed him being there.
I just got tired of the wolves going off at him. But it just
did a one eighty and walked and disappeared back into the woods. You know,
I've had the wolves go off. I've had I had three inside dogs.
I had the inside dog, the chickens, the guinea hens, the
horses. We had nights where it was just bizarre. It wasn't pleasant.
You know. The crazy thing is we bought the place sight and see.
Yeah, we were in Florida. We're both raised in Florida and from o'calla.
We moved over to you know, originally we're from Pompino Beach area all
the way down to South Florida, but we went from there to Orlando,
over to the Gulf Coast. We loved fishing, but it just wasn't our
cup of tea with how cojusted it had gotten so like a couple of people
that we knew were from Arkansas. One had just recently moved from the Tampa
area to Arkansas. So they started standing me thankful. You know, you
don't know where you're going, so check out these places. So it's just
like, oh cool, Yeah, you know we could sit in with that.
You know, we missed the salt water fishing, but hey, you
know Mountains Freshwater Fishing National Forest. Yeah, we went for it. We
bought it seventeen and it was a clash of two different worlds. Yeah,
but it was cool. You know. We got in there at night and
and it was just like the moon was crazy. We had a truck,
a van. The truck was hauling a one horse trailer, a four horse
stop trailer. The other truck was hauling another horse trailer with all our belongings
in it. And we pulled in there at night, and I mean it
was bad weather and it was freezing, the wind was blowing. We had
to move some trees out of the road to get up in there. Up
in the mountains and coyotes were going off and it's just like okay, but
yeah, waking up the next morning was just dropped at gorgeous because you could
look out our front door and you could see Rich Mountain. That night we
used to be able to see the lodge up there. Lake Wilhelmina Large,
the large Lake Wilhelmina. So yeah, it was it was cool. And
I'll tell you what, it didn't take long. I don't even think we
were reverre for two or three weeks. And when you would walk from the
kitchen into the living room, you had this big picture window that would face
horse pattern, but when you walked at an angle, you would see down
into the valley. Oh, my husband's just like he furrows and he's looking
down there. He's like, get your jacket on. I'm like what he
was, get your jacket on. So, you know, he wouldn't talk
to me. I mean, it's just I don't know. Ed is trying
to rain. And he finally told me he had seen the back end of
something, you know, all black, but it was just like the butt
cheek, yeah, all the way down and said it looked human. I
go, okay, and you know, we would have weeks or months with
nothing happening. And I think one of the funniest things that well, it
wasn't funny then, but we were doing the windows and I gave my son
the windox and paper towels and I said, go do your windows. So
I'm in the kitchen doing the windows and I hear him call me. He
says, mom, get in here. I says, what. He goes,
just get in here. I'm like, what I'm doing. You know
how kids are. It's a teenager, right, And he yell for me,
there's a camprint on my window. I'm like, well, use the
wom bed and at all, like you don't understand it? Tell me outside,
huh oft in there? And I was just like, okay, I'm
on being honest, and it's just like, okay, yeah, I saw
the outside. And the thing is is that that cabin was elevated off the
ground, elevated, and I think when my husband measured it, I think
the bottom of the handprint was seven feet four inches off the ground. Wow.
And that handprint stayed there for years outside and I believe it was I'm
not sure if I'm pronounced thinking his name correctly David Polyads. I'd spoken to
him at one of the Hanobia festivals and my son and himself was talking to
him about the handprints, and he said, you know, it's possible the
reason it's stayed there that long is it could have been sap you know,
tree resin. Yeah, that were on the palms of the hand, possibly
for the oil. But yeah, that's stayed there for years. I mean,
I know that. Now Doug Hichek is kind of leading the charge into
this research about a possible waxy residue that they might have on their skin and
especially their hands. It's something that gorillas actually have and really yeah, and
like you're saying, there's a lot of situations where people have found handprints that
they think might be from Bigfoot that leaves kind of this residue on a window
or a car or something like that. Waxy interesting. Yeah, Okay,
right now they're actually in the process of trying to determine if they can pull
any DNA from that waxy residue because they can actually collect the waxy residue.
They've collected some of it from different people, so now they're in the process
of seeing, okay, well, can we actually pull DNA from this stuff.
So it's interesting you know that you mentioned that, and maybe the future
will hold some new puzzle pieces for us. Crazy thing is, I did
take a piece of tape to see if I could lift any type of thermal
Uh huh. I didn't think about saving that to collect what could have actually
been on the whosdow and all this stuff happened. You're no longer living at
this property? Correct? Correct? Was this happening? Yeah, we bought
the top down, maybe off by your ear or two, but I believe
we bought it in two thousand. I believe we've moved here December eighth,
two thousand and four. Okay, so the early two thousands were talking close
to twenty years ago. Oh yeah, geez, don't even want to say
that out loud. I know, and dinosaurs rules here. Yeah, yeah,
let's talk about your trip down to the mailbox that kind of got the
ball rolling. Oh yeah, that horse, by the way, got slipped.
It actually looked like somebody took a machete and racked him on his butt
cheek, And that probably maybe happened maybe two or three weeks after that happened.
But yeah, it was a queen and that if you're familiar with horses
and fencing, that entire paddock was no climbs with hot wire. There was
nothing in that paddock that could have done that. Huh. Walked out the
door. I have to go past that paddock. But before I even got
up to the paddock, I heard a loud clank, clank, clank.
Okay, there shouldn't be anything clanking back there. I mean like a metal
sound, like metal on metal, metal on metal, and kind of just
to set the setting for everyone listening, this is a mountain cabin out in
the middle of nowhere. Yeah. I had nobody to the west of me
for a long ways. The person to the north of me probably two or
three miles, I mean behind me was all cattle fields. So there should
not be you know, nobody's out there working on their buick or anything.
No, but it's it's interesting that she brought up a vehicle back behind that
paddock. On that next twenty acres, there's an old logging road that when
you're leaving the property and you go to the left, that old logging road
is right there. That's still part of my property. And there is this
old maybe fifty seven fifty eight shovy car laying on it hood and that's where
the old homestead was supposed to be back in the days. That was the
only thing metal out there, was that the direction the sound was coming from.
Yeah, yes, that was the only thing metal out there. I
mean, I can't think of anything that, you know, what would be
making that sound. You know, it would something be like hitting that old
car, and like, why why would it be doing that? Well,
I always go to humans first before I sure. Sure, So we didn't
own that property yet, but we were getting ready to put a contract on
it. So I'm like, Okay, somebody's messing around, and maybe it's
a poacher. Maybe somebody's doing this. Maybe somebodys knew that. Yeah,
concerned somebody might start a fire back in there, right, So I went
in the house and got the rifle, walking back in that direction, and
a horse jerked ahead hot motion, and I had this black thing running from
the right to the left down into the valley, and it was the craziest
thing I'd ever seen with the way it ran, I mean, it wasn't
normal, with the way the legs, and I don't understand how something could
run like that thatt fast with its arms back behind its back like that,
and from the waist there was no movement. I didn't see any bobbing of
the head. It was move in my head, I'm thinking, is that
a turkey flying? You know? And there was actually thin, thinner than
the drawing I sent you. It kind of reminded me of a mirrorkat,
which is the crazy thing. Huh you know what aracat is? Yeah,
yeah, yeah, that's what it reminded me of. But with its chest
boat out all black, and the way it moved its legs, I think
the closest that I could come to explaining what it might have looked like is
where I writed some people say when they see the move they have a ski
movement like somebody's. It really wasn't like that, but it was kind of
like that going by the description that you sent me and the drawing that you
sent me. It was all black, uniform in color. That is how
I That's the only way I could explain. Even though it was under the
trees, we kept the trees lifted because horses were right there, So we
had like a twenty foot lo area and then the trees behind that for about
maybe forty feet in we had the branches lifted, meaning that they were sawed
off. Okay, so you could get the conduct yourself. It was still
undershadow, but it was still very visible. So to me, I saw
all black. How tall was it? It couldn't have been more than four
feet tall. It couldn't have been, especially when I used the horse wire.
That horse wire, I think that was forty six inches twelve to thirty
six forty eight. It was like forty two or forty And it was below
that running on two legs. Huh. And it's it's got its chest boat
out yep. And then it's arms that This is the thing that just blows
my mind. I've never heard a description like this. The arms were angled
backwards, angled backwards. And the other thing is my perception when I saw,
how can it run like that and not be looking where it's going and
not facebalm a tree? Because the chin looked as though it was tilted up.
That's the only way I could explain my perception of what I saw.
It wasn't a bear. It was not a bear, for sure. I
don't know what it was. I don't We're talking about extremely extremely rugged terrain.
Yeah, and this thing is running downhill with its arms angled behind it
while looking at an up angle, not even paying attention, really not looking
where it's headed exactly. And if it came from where I think it may
have came from, which would have been across the road down to the creek,
it would have had a gone down and up some pretty wicked ravines.
So I don't know. There's no way of knowing of it right like that
the whole way, or it just went into that mode as it came to
where the horses were. I have no idea, and I probably thought for
at least he or four seconds. And I'll tell you what, if you
look at the timer on a watch tower, four seconds is pretty long.
Yeah. Yeah, seeing something like that, it's a lifetime. Yeah.
And I have looked at reports for so long now, still looking to see
if I could find something similar. Now, the only thing I think I
might might have found similar to the body shape is an old report in La
Floor County, Oklahoma, where a gentleman was hunting and he saw one in
a tree. Was it running at the speed of like a person? Oh
no, what I thought? Oh no, no, no, this I'm
gonna sound like an idiot when I say this, but it's just like it
was on fuel turbo. It's hard to explain. I know people, other
people have seen them, so I don't have an issue talking about I don't.
It's just trying to explain something that you've seen that nobody may have.
So I'm a firm believer in saying that if you haven't experienced it, you
can't understand it. You have to experience it to understand it. After you
see it, it goes out of you. Could you hear like the brush
and stuff breaking as it ran or was it quiet? Oh, I'm going
to go into something again. Weird. It was like a rush sound.
Now, if you look at the picture what I drew, you could see
where it shaded up behind the back going up. This is stuck in my
head. Well, when I first thought, I thought that might have been
a tale going straight up. But I was watching something a couple of years
ago and it had an animal I don't know if it was a jaguar or
some kind of cat running so fast that it was kicking up like a dust
storm and a bunch of a bunch of and I'm like, oh, I
wonder if that's what I saw. Thinking it was a tail. That's how
fast it was moving. Wow, I've never seen it again, just that
one time in the whole time you lived there. My son traveled. We
saw the same thing the same day. That's with the picture. That's the
peekaboo. Yeah, that was the same day. I called my husband.
My husband was working down in Texas or in Mississippi, and I called him
right away. You're not going to believe what I just saw. Got my
son got the camcorder that wasn't charged, so that was worthless. And we
started walking the road and we walked all the way to the mailbox, and
nothing happened. Once we got past that old logging road where that old car
is on its food. As we're walking back towards the cabin, as flush
and we both said at the same time, that was a rock. I
still had that first rock, but that wasn't the only rock. It probably
happened three or four times. We got rocks chucked at us, and the
wolves started going off. Now the wolves are all the way back at the
cabin on the other side of the back horse paddock. They were going nuts,
and it was either me or my son started walking back up towards the
cabin. But I remember looking at my son and he was doing that over
exaggerated pointing. Yeah, So I started walking back to him and that's what
I'm thinking, he sees something, and I kept my eye exactly where he
was pointing, which was this big, huge oak tree, and I walked
right up to it, looked behind it, and I mean my heart was
beating. I didn't know what was going to be behind that thing, and
there was nothing there. There was absolutely nothing there. So I don't believe
I looked up, which I should have, but that tree was solve.
It could have dully called in the opposite direction away from us. So we
thought that was it. Okay, nothing, so welcome back to the cabin.
I open up my van to look for my gear bag with my battery
charger from my camcorder, and my van got plastered with gravel while you're standing
there, Well, I'm standing there. Wow. I mean I would have
probably jumped on my bridges right then and there. Uh huh. I've been
locked out of the house by accident when I've had something like that happened to
me. Comical now, but it wasn't comical then. It's just many things
that can Chuck Rocks. Yeah, I mean, and I'll tell you what
vindication is. And you could edit this out if you want, because I
don't know if I'm supposed to say anything or not. But the fro was
out at my place and a couple of things did happen, and we were
all sitting around a campfire, and we had a rock get chucked from the
valley where they had a cam set down in the direction where that cruier ran.
It came wishing through the trees and landed right in our area, and
everybode a walk. Yeah, and I think the cam went off a couple
of times, but nothing was on the camp But get to me, that's
a vindication. At least you know, other people have experienced stuff there,
so it wasn't just us, and their whole group was there, so there
was nobody messing around in the woods. Backing up for just a second,
if you don't mind, describe what your son said he saw that day.
It stuck its head out at an angle. And I talked to him about
it the other night because I don't want to put words in his mouth,
because I told him i'd be talking to you about that, and I wanted
to make sure, So it's not like it's a person would step out and
then step back in. You know. I played peekaboo like that. It
was its head sideways and then behind the tree, and then the other side,
leaning its head out, just the head as far as I know.
I asked, you, do you remember seeing any hands. He's like,
well, that's like fifteen twenty years ago. I said, I know,
but but I'm sure I've got all this stuff posted on that other website could
used to share everything. Yeah, he did say the eyes were beady black.
He said that's when his eyes were focused on all black. It matter.
You know. The interesting thing is I do a lot of bigfoot artwork
that just several times now when I've done the eyes, because I believe life
is in the eyes. When I do art org, it's say they need
to be all black. That's how he remembers it is all beady black eyes.
Now, the only time I could have possibly seen some level of facial
features was along the other dirt road, which was the old actual road that
used to go through from one main paved road to another paved road that was
shut off, and my van we had a fence there and a lot of
trees that separated because then you had to drop down. So from our property
down to that old road was an major dropped down anywhere from three feet to
six feet. It dropped down so you couldn't see. You could there's places
you could stand in the yard and not see what's down there on that groove.
But I looked out the front window when I saw something next to my
van, and it was very quick and it was black, but I did
see a hint of lighter on what would be the face. My son saw
that too. That was the only time the two of us saw one or
something at the same time where I could have possibly seen some level of what
could have been a face which would have been lighter than which was all black.
You mentioned while ago of the uh your wolves started cutting up. Did
you ever feel like they were maybe being focused on or being messed with or
anything? Oh yeah, oh yeah. Matter of fact, my husband woke
up one morning to the wolf's going off, and you'll tell you his eyes
were still blurry. He had just woke up. The wolves woke him up.
He looked out that side window at the wolves and there was this big
black figure back there, and my barrel wolf. He was an easy one
hundred and sixty pounds. He was big, and he wanted to eat that
thing. And my husband said, he don't know if it saw him,
the thing saw him through the window, or if it sensed to be here.
It just got tired of the wolves going off at him, But it
just did a one eighty and walked and disappeared back into the woods. You
hear so many stories about, you know, these things and dogs. It's
really interesting that you had wolves and their reaction of these things. It wasn't
pleasant. I still haven't been able to find that longer vocal, but it
actually or I had that external might hanging out from the recorder. It was
close to the wolf pen. And when those wolves went off, it was
so loud it distorted their voices, their vocals. That's how loud it was.
That's how loud they went off. You know, I've had the wolves
go off. I've had the I had three inside dogs, I had the
inside the chickens, the guinea hens, the horses. We had nights where
it was just bizarre and it could have been a bear at times. You
can't blame everything on these things, right, you know, we had beer
out there, we had packs of coyotes. I watched my Star Wars chase
a pack of coyotes out of his paddock. I mean, that wasn't unusual
for that area, and I'm sure it's still not unusual now. It's still
crazy back in there. One of the interesting things in the in the photos
you sent, uh was a picture of a coyote with an apple in its
mouth. Uh huh. I was doing a lot of search. I'm a
researcher. I dig i dig, I dig for what other people have done,
and I kept getting my apple store. They actually liked the yellow apples
better than they like the grit Nay, like the Granny Smith, the more
expensive ones than the red ones, and my apples tipped. I figured,
okay, this is getting expensive. But then again, my husband would get
me free apples too, so that helped. So I tried something different to
try and see whatever stealing my apples. I want them to stop and think.
So I put a jar out in with the apples. I don't know,
the jar just being something different. I don't yell, but I got
them. That was my apple stealer. I've done the same thing with painting
baits and getting possums and raccoons actually pulling the strings up to get to the
food. Yeah, my wife likes to she saw somewhere on the internet.
She gets pine cones and smears peanut butter on them and then puts birds set
on them and hangs them by thread in the trees for the birds, and
the birds never get to them. The squirrels get them instantly. As soon
as she walks inside the house. The squirrels run over there and pull that
thread and just lift them right up to the limb and just chew through it
and take off with it. Animals are est, But I mean I had
never even you know, if somebody asked me yesterday, will a coyote eat
an apple? No? Absolutely not. And here you have photographic proof that
a coyote has an apple in its mouth and it's taken off with it.
Oh, you've gotta be kidding me. But these are the things that are
important, I think, because you know, people will leave food gifts out
for Bigfoot, and whenever an apple disappears, your first instinct is to say,
okay, well, what could carry off an apple out? Well,
a coyote. A coyote will carry off an apple. Talk a little bit
about the h the incident with the deer carcass. Oh, that was my
husband's underwear book. We because we were having so much activity at one point,
we actually went to Harbor Streight and bought a security system with the videos
and all that, and we had the main camera pointed down into the valley
and my husband, Saul, it was hunting season, the ant attack,
saw the boot stepped out the back door in his underwear and popped the book.
So he's been proud of that. That was an eight point, by
the way, but skinned it, wrapped it in cheese call, had a
hose spring on it all night long and it was cold out so we could
do that, and it was hanging high. I've got pictures of it hanging
from the rafter and I said. Water was kept on it all night.
And the next day he went out to check on it and he asked.
He came back in and he said, do you mess with the cheesecloth,
And I said no, And he went back out and I looked out the
window and he's doing the cheese cloth because he was going to go ahead and
section it out. Came back and he goes, come out here and look
at this okay, and he's like, what's that. I'm like, looks
like something taste tested it and that was high. I mean, I've got
a whole sequence of ticks right broke everything. One actually looks like a bicustard.
And that's not cut. That's a pressure mark. I don't know.
You know, you think, Okay, why didn't I put a game cam
on that? Why didn't I do this? Why didn't and I do that?
You know? Frame is now my big lesson learned is if you're going
to put cams out, put it on still shots, put it on video.
Yeah, hindsight, of course, but I don't want anybody to think
you're claiming that like Bigfoot took a bite of this deer's It's just another thing
to add to the pile of weird stuff that was taking place at this property.
Exactly weird, you know, And you could go for months and nothing
happens. As matter of fact, I do believe that was the last situation
that happened before we moved, and we didn't move because of that anything.
I mean, most likely if it would have kept going, and we probably
wouldn't have moved, you know, because it kept things spicy. Did you
ever have like anything slap in the side of the house or anything like that.
Oh gosh, yes, matter of fact, in my son's room when
we were just talking about this the other night. His bedroom faced the valley
and he was sitting on his bed one night and I came. I was
talking to him through the doorway. Something naked on his air conditioning. You.
Yeah, we had all kinds of stuff happen there. And you mentioned
rocks on the roof. Oh yeah. We had a big get together and
it was a two story cabin and somebody said, hey, do you know
you got rocks on your roof. I'm like, Carl, Yeah, there
was rocks up there on my two story roof. I mean, how does
that happen? Yeah? Exactly what else happened to the house? Oh,
I've only had really two real fear situations. I was in a sound sleep.
I was sleeping on the room cliner with my head against that picture window,
and before I knew it, my son had my ankles and was dragging,
literally dragging me off the couch to get my head away from the window.
He said there was one well, can't make right through the window.
I did not say it, he did, and we didn't keep curtains on
the windows where we lived. We didn't need to. But the other time,
me and another researcher or we had hung a bait line from the fence
where that actual old dirt road was the original road, not the logging road,
but the original road. So we had a bait line set up.
Both had camcorders with the IR and the bait line started bouncing up and down.
Turned out it was a possum, so I want to rerun the line,
turned the camcorders down, put the rifle down, walked up to that
fence line where the land drops down to that old dirt road, and it
sounded like a jet in the distance. Well within seconds that git in the
distance sounded like a four wheeler. And then in a couple of seconds that
four wheeler turned into a growl, and it was just like we got bluff
charged guys. The first time I have to admit I ever streamed me,
I streamed one. I was terrified. That's interesting that you're talking about,
you know, the sound of the growl and how it builds like that.
I'll never I'll never forget. And it's so hard to describe to people.
But like the growl I heard, And again I did not see what was
making the growl, right, but it sounded like the only thing I could
compare it to is I'm from the city and I live pretty close to an
expressway, and to me, it sounded like a big diesel truck, like
a semi truck. M m hm. I mean it's that type of volume
in that low rumble, and your brain just starts trying to equate the sound
of things you've heard, because it does not sound like a dog growling or
anything. It doesn't sound like a bear growling. It's way louder than that.
Yeah, your your brain is trying to trigger in what is it?
Yeah? What does that connect to? So in the distance I connected to
a jet engine in the full room. Nope, that's a ground So yeah,
and you do feel it, you do it, It rumbles in you.
Anybody that's been around this thing long enough, if they're worth their salt,
they've seen a certain photo and this photo came from you. Yeah,
only most people see an altered version of the photo exactly. But let's talk
about the photo. What's the story behind the famous photo, the pick from
Hell? All right, So where that little critter whatever it is where it's
sitting or whatever it's doing. You see the telephone pole behind there, right
yeah, well right behind that telephone pole is where that road drops down.
You can't see what's down there unless you walk up to it. Now,
to the left was a three tall shop, so one all the way to
the left used to be in my seed room. It was open air and
he was open in the front, closed in on three sides. Yeah,
the middle up the further end. I used to put you know, spare
hay and all that stuff in there. But my chickens I had free ranging
chickens would still go in there and lay their eggs in there, and that's
where we used to gather the eggs. I used to give a dozen,
two dozen, sometimes more a day when it's laying season from all those chickens.
My eggs all started disappearing, nothing, not not even a drip of
yolk. And my husband started walking around. He's like, okay, we're
going to find out where the raccoons are or the possums or whatever's taking the
eggs. So he saw where there was a little trail, game trail going
down alongside that power pole down to the road and across the road down to
where the creek goes, which the creek was about a quarter mile away,
So that's where we set the camera to catch a raccoon or whatever that was
stealing eggs, and that's what we got. What do you think it is?
I'll tell you what. I've done a lot of work on it,
and I've held back on putting it back out there. Yeah, and maybe
a month or two I'll put it out there because there is a whole bunch
of paradoia going on in there. Things that you believe you see is just
matrixing of the reeds. Do you think you see a bird. It's not
a bird. There's things going on in there that don't make any sense.
I don't know what it is. Now. What I did do to that
is I dropped it and I took away the view contrast. I was only
working what was already there, taking away making dark when it was already there.
And I'm OCD when it comes to asymmetrical stuff, because I'm an artist.
I was saying things that were asymmetrical that if it was paradoia, didn't
make sense because eyes, nostrils, what appears to I mean, it doesn't
make any sense. So I would like to do a complete well, actually
I did a complete breakdown on everything, and I think it needs to be
looked at one section at a time and just let people flice and dice it.
I mean, that's what happened in the beginning. But it's been jacked
so many times, you know, the little caveman's face has been put on
it. It ended up on a hunting Arkansas hunting farm where a guy climbed
it on his own and telling even telling people how high he had the cam
off off the ground. I'm like, hi, hello, glad you like
it. Years ago, I kind of worked behind the scenes with another podcast,
just helping out, and it was whenever I really first. I had
a few years under my belt in the field research side, and you know,
it was pretty big on myself and just I wanted to try and create
a vocalization that I had heard out in the field that I didn't record,
and I just you know, kicked myself in the butt over not having it
recorded. And I was messing around with some audio stuff and I wanted to
see if I could recreate what I had heard, and I couldn't get it
exact, but I got something pretty similar I created one on my computer.
It was not an animal of any kind, and I posted I posted it
on the internet, you know, in all the different bigfoot forms and stuff
for other people to use as a comparison to maybe what they heard out in
the field exactly. And last year, I think it was maybe the year
before I found it on another video and it's been you know, we're still
talking the same timeframe. It's been close to twenty years since I made that
audio. Yeah, and people are currently using it in TikTok videos and other
videos and going viral. There was one video in specific that it was used
for a hoax. It was supposedly a mushroom hunter and this video even made
it to like a television show, like featured on the History Channel. And
it's my audio that I created on my computer. And this jackass is just
he's got a whole story behind it. He was mushroom hunting and this whole
thing, and I'm just like, are you kidding me? And like every
few months, another new video will pop up with that audio that I created
all those years ago, with a new story behind it. So I understand
exactly what you're saying with the picture. It's sad, you know, because
that's why you stop. Well, at least for me, that's one of
the reasons I stop sharing. Why I even bother. Yeah, your photo,
I have seen the original photo without it being doctored, and I don't
I don't have any idea what's in the photo. It's a very interesting photo.
Well, you know, there's there's six in the series, the edited
version where somebody you know added the face to it and everything. I mean,
I would say at this point that's a famous Bigfoot photo. It looks
better than the original. Well, sure, because it shows what everybody wants
to see, you know, that's what everybody's waiting on, is to see
a photo or a video of Bigfoot. True, true, Just unfortunately,
the vast majority of stuff I've seen out there is not photos or videos of
Bigfoot. They are usually hoaxes or misidentifications that people just add a story to
and run with it. And now we got to worry about AI yeah,
yeah, which is popping up everywhere. And ye if people don't get on
their toes and learn how to recognize it, you're in for a world of
hurt, That's all I'm saying. Yes, sir, Another thing that I
wanted to mention that I wanted to talk to you about. You talked about
some of the attention that you got over the years for the activity happening on
your property. I imagine the photo has something to do with it as well.
You had actual images to back this up of a mystery vehicle that showed
up at your property. Oh that's not the first time. Oh I've got
them on video. I just haven't put it out there, but I will
share it with people if they think they could ideam. Even though it's going
back that far. That's a dirty pool, you know, to have your
tag. To me, that's where somebody took electrical take that wasn't just like
that. That's to me, that's black electrical tape. Yeah, that's something
physical on the tag. People knew I was doing a lot of game camera
work. I mean, just a quick description. This is like a pickup
truck that you don't recognize obviously that you got on camera, that was sitting
at your property for an extended period of time, almost an hour, like
they were observing you. I don't know what is what they were doing,
and they have literally taken something probably electric table like you're saying, and covered
up their license plate with it, which was also captured on camera. Yes,
sir, and that's not They're not the only one. I mean,
that's scary. Yes, it was, especially because I would be there alone
for months at a time. Geez, and they me and I used to
fire off a lot, you know. And I did that because, hey,
there's somebody back here. Whether they knew it or not, there's somebody
back here. You wouldn't know there was anybody living back where we lived.
And I've hit the ground in the house, hit the floor because I had
gunshots close. I've had spotlights at night showing from the front woods into my
kitchen window. It wasn't pleasant at times. I think we had game and
fish out there two or three times at night because we had a lot of
shooting going on the truck for me. You know, we were on twenty
six acres, but we had National Force on two sides of us, so
it's kind of hard to track people down when you have trespassers or poachers or
who knows who they are. Yeah, you know, you could only do
as good as good as you can do. And we only had one gentleman
who had open season on the property. He was old man Allen. He
was a retired navy sailing He even we gave him his own area where he
could hunt, and he put up a headblind and he had his cams out
there and he used to haunt Happy Man when he got a hog out there.
Never got his deer. But he came up to the house one day.
Thought he was going to show me some more deer and hog picks from
the cam, but instead he goes, you know who this is. I'm
like, you know, there's this guy who was posing right in front of
this camera, right looking right at the camp posing with is he on a
side arm? I mean, do you think these were like poachers? I
don't know who they were, but you don't poach with a side arm.
No, you don't. The other guys in the truck, I have no
idea. Now I will say this about the guys in the truck. Maybe
a day, maybe two or three days prior to that, that pertrick ended
up on another website and somebody had contacted me and said, yes, well
it's back, and they let me know where it was and I went back
in there and I climbed it. You know, you could find anybody on
the internet I never made any I used to post his paint horse, but
I never made any It was never any secret who I really was or where
I lived. And yeah, that happened with those guys in the truck like
two or three days after that. I mean, I'll just ask you,
blank, do you think any of it was connected to the Bigfoot activity?
It's possible, It is possible. I don't know who those people were.
They could have gotten hurt. They could have gotten real hurt, really hurt.
So whenever I hear these stories and like, you know, you send
me those pictures, it's not only just how scary it was for you,
but the kind of person that would, I mean literally risk their lives.
What were they doing. They know better than to be doing that trapesing around
on somebody's private property in the middle of the night and shining spotlights and stuff.
That's how you get killed. So whatever they were up to, apparently
they thought it was worth the threat. Well, it was never worth anything
to me but a headache. But it was fun. Everybody needs a good
fear of Russia. Did you ever see any like I have to ask,
like orbs or anything like that? Oh? Oh yeah, Oh my god.
Orange visual, not just in the pics, but visual floating orbs orange
orange. My son out his window one night. He still talks about it.
He still describes it as a Star Wars scene. Oh yeah, we
saw crazy stuff there. Oh. I got quite a bit of stuff on
video. I've got so much stuff on video on old CDs and everything.
Yeah, I got quite a bit of strange stuff. But that's life,
I mean, not everything. And life is black and white. I mean
there's some room for color in there, you know. And it's okay to
have an open mind about things as long as it's not so open your brains
for a lot. So I stay open. But it doesn't mean that I'm
into it or believe everything, but I'll think about it. Has your position
changed any about Bigfoot over the years, that their flesh and blood? No?
No, I can't do romance, I can't do whore. I'm an
EmPATH and I don't believe in I mean, this is just me. I
don't believe in the mind speaks. I just don't. Other people do.
But that's okay. I'm going to do me. They could do them.
But you never experienced anything like that personally. Well, But I know people
talk about getting zapped. I don't know if I want to use the term
zapp but I know I keep bringing it up where the old Chevy is.
That was one place on the property you would get a bit disoriented. You
knew where you were. It's just like, Okay, which way do I
turn to get back on the path, even though the path was right there.
That happened to several people. Huh. It's almost the sense of feeling
lightheaded. Yeah, and just ranted. Not every time, but there was
something odd about that little area. I wonder if they could have been using
that old Chevy. I don't know. I do know that's the only thing
out there that could have made those clanks sounds, because we went back out
there and we banged on it a bit. Nothing ever came back and did
it again. But it was the sound that I heard. The sound.
Yeah, yeah, And it wasn't just the car. There were old springs.
There are old shocks, I mean old parts of strings, you know,
springs from them tires. So yeah, there was a lot of stuff
there if you could beat on. Now, if that was connected to what
slipped my horse, I have no idea. Was that It's the only time
an animal was injured on the property. Yes, sir, yep, that
was the only time crazy stuff. It was crazy stuff, huh. And
I hope I'll end up on another time. Yeah. It's got a little
bit bored here living on the highways, so I'm ready to go sharal again.
Well, I appreciate you coming on and sharing your story with me all
mister met You've been a pleasure, sweetheart, and it's been fun. If
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