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Made a Dessen Jon face sunny sad
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welcome to fco L. It's Thursday. Thank you Robin, thank you for

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that. It's our Thursday show.
We have a guest we are super excited

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to present to you first time on
our show post new baby, mister Patrick

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Hickey of bad TV and also of
this is your house? Great to be

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here. I feel like I live
here. Yeah, it sure seems that

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well you guys, thank yourself at
home. Thank you, Kaitlyn. I'm

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sorry you might turn up my headphones
a little bit. Thanks. Yeah,

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thanks for having me back. It
feels like back in the garage. Yeah,

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coming out of the fog of war
of Okay, So your new baby

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his name is Quentin, and how
old is he now? He will be

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weeks He'll be two weeks tomorrow.
Oh okay, I am dying to know,

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Like, how are you holding up? How Shari holding up? What's

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happening? Give us all the details? Okay, I this has been a

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journey for three years trying to make
a second kid right and just say you

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know whatever I'm gonna say here.
I have permission from from my wife Shari

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to talk about two miscarriages in one
embryo that didn't work. She has been

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on progesterone basically for two and a
half years, which, if the listeners

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know, that crazy making, crazy
making. I felt bad for her.

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She couldn't control her weight and that
caused, you know, she just she

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was bummed for the last two and
a half years. She hasn't had a

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drop of alcohol. She likes to
drink wine and not she hasn't been able

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to do that. And so yeah, it's just been a change of life.

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But it's been a journey and just
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the the last miscarriage was we got
to six weeks and you just get that

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news and you're just like, so
with this one, I was just every

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day just waiting for the phone call
that that was going to happen. But

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sorry, On a more positive note, Yes, the pregnancy was great.

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Quentin was born healthy baby boy,
ten fingers, ten toes. Yeah,

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he just came out great. And
this pregnancy and this birth was way less

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insane than the first one. And
I don't know if that's because the first

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time you go through it, it's
all new to you. So it's just

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so it just freaked me the hell
out freaked my wife out. This time

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we kind of had it down so
it was just you show up at the

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hospital, we sleep there overnight.
I wonder if this was the same kind

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of Is this how it worked for
you guys? You show up about twelve

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hours before they're going to start inducing
and doing the well, I'm an idiot,

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what are they for me? Now? They so she just she did

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had a vaginal birth. Yes,
I had a C section. Yeah,

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I literally showed up at the hospittle
a couple of hours before and then they

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prepped me first, well, the
second one was an emergency, but I

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was I left from my high risk
doctor across the street, go in epidural

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spinal for me and then have the
baby. And then John showed had to

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show up and meet me there,
so it was a little different. But

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yeah, I was not there night
before. I didn't do that anything.

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So I had a C section,
but we weren't planning on a C section.

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I mean it ended up being planned, but it was like eighteen hours

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later. And so what prompted that
for both of you? Like obviously just

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it's go time, now come to
the hospital. We actually scheduled an induction

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because I wanted my doctor to deliver
my baby and he was going to be

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out of town, so we scheduled
it. And but I never dilated.

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Apparently I had scar tissue on my
cervix, and they said, you're never

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going to dilate. What even after
the induction? I mean it, And

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I don't know if anyone's ever had
their cervix checked. And it's not dialting,

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but it really hurts. And yeah, so I they finally decided we

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should do a C section. So
it was planned in that way, but

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it wasn't planned when we went in
but overnight. But Wade was not going

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to spend the night. He's like, okay, So this seems like it's

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going along. Are you Are you
okay? If I just hopped back home

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and sleep in bed, I'm like
whatever. Oh yeah. I asked my

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mom recently. She was out here
about three weeks ago. I said,

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hey, Mom, where was dad? Shit? Said he was at a

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bar across the street from the hospital. Not at all. He didn't even

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show up. I think he picked
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to go home with me. Oh
God, So why did you have your

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So I had had previous surgery to
get to remove vibroids TMI. But my

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doctor had told me, you cannot
have you you have to have a c

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section because you you could perforate you
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So you have to have a c
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you would possibly go into labor,
So like two weeks before or at least

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a week before first one. So
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a c section. It's well,
I wouldn't have tried to have a natural

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birth whatever you call it afterwards anyway. And then but with the twins,

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Sadie was small and I was being
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every week, and they were watching
for a negative blood flow with her because

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I also had scar tissue where she
where she was implanted, and the placenta

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wasn't working correctly and the cord was
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for her. Xander was fine,
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she wasn't. So then I was
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sent me home for Thanksgiving because they
were born on November twenty six. They

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sent me home for Thanksgiving, and
then I had to go in the next

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day to get just checked, like
a stress test they call it. They

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did the stress test and then they
basically didn't like what they saw. Called

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my doctor and then she was like, nope, send her over to the

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hospital and we're taking We're going.
Now. How long after that were the

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kids born? Like an hour?
I mean, how far along were you?

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I was thirty three weeks? Okay, it's early. Yeah. Wow.

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Then they were in the Nike.
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like two weeks, so he was
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born four pounds, but Sadie was
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so she was in the Nike for
a month. Wow. Yeah,

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how did that work? Would you? Did you go home? And then

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you just constantly be visiting the hospital. So Elbe had just started preschool,

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so that was like a and it
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there's like holiday show, there's like
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really hard. So I had preschooler, so I would take her to school.

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go. I would take Lbie to
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hospital and John wasn't taking time off
of work because he decided that he was

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going to take a little time off
when the babies came home because they're in

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the hospital. What can he do
that? Really said? They were both

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in the nick. You you were
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of weeks. And then so I
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in. I don't know if either
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nick. You. Oh no,
With my father, they made me put

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on a hazmat suit when he was
passing. It was this whole process.

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Oh yeah, I mean you have
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You basically can't touch anything, and
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a gown on you. That yeah, And then I could look at Sadie

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in her little isolate but I could
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hold him. But sometimes they'd be
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don't wake up up, like they
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in. I'd spend like a couple
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you gonna do? I'd get super
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then they're like, all right,
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and be like, how are they
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because then I had a preschooler.
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her home, you know, and
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new babies too, right to an
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in the nick once and like,
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then when we got Sadie home,
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and then I had a little more
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it worked, we had some help. It made it a little better.

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So how is your home coming?
Yeah? Tell us everything. So

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do you planned it? So it
was. The date was planned. Not

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only that, but Elliott was starting
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have help. So the she gets
she goes to school from nine to three,

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gets picked up at three from our
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till seven. Okay, So we
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worked until we shared off Mike off
Mike before we started. The school that

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Elliott goes to has had plumbing issues, so basically, since we've gotten home,

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it's it's a coin toss whether or
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on any given day, which shere
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all right, so I gotta give
this to my wife. One before the

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baby was born, she was I
assume every woman is going through a men's

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pain. My wife was crying out
like I've never seen her, and she

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asked the nurse, who was great, can I have something? And the

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nurse explained, if we give you
something, you're going to get comfortable and

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you won't dialate fully dialate. So
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She was stuck at nine for about
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give you this, you could be
stuck at nine for another twelve or you

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could just push through. And my
wife pushed through because she just wanted it

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done. So we get home.
So we brought him home two weeks.

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So, no, she didn't epidural, but she had to wait. She

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had the epidural, but she wanted
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feeling. Was it not working?
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That's what she was saying. And
I've never seen my wife's tough, and

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they wouldn't give her more. They
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you would prevent you from dilating.
Wow. Yeah, So she you know,

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she pushed through literally and uh and
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crazy thing born on Tuesday. On
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work with the baby in the back
of the car. She works. Very

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famous baseball player whose wife is a
wonderful person. But she had a charity

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thing for Saturday. So my wife
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like storage unit to get a bunch
of stuff like baseballs and stuff to pick

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up two ships to where the Sherry
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her carry everything out, and then
she had to go you know, yeah,

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but my wife, Oh my gosh. And then Saturday we threw a

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party. We had a pool party
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when the baby was born, when
Elliott was born, we were leaving the

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hospital as has Matt suits were coming
in. It was the middle of March,

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the city. We woke up from
the fog of having a new We

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got her home. I started seeing
on the news that they might shut down

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an NBA game that night and not
have it live. And I was like,

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what's going on here? You know, just because that week leading up

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to pregnancy, you're just you're in
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and they just shut everything down.
So then it was just Shri and I

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and the baby, and we used
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studio is now. It had just
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My buddy filming a movie here.
This was just a garage and I

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said, you can film your entire
movie at my house, but you got

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to make the garage into like a
studio. And then guess what that movie

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this kind of the cob. That
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you know, the woman that Alec
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spent two weeks with her. Oh
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there's probably like three scenes from the
movie called Blindfire. It's about a police

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shooting, a bad police shooting,
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it's it's a decent movie. And
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being a really nice person. How
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Sorry, oh the studio that we're
in. Yeah, So anyway, my

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wife and I we were just in
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debuted. So I remember us kind
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lap. But with so it just
took forever my point, to get back

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to some level of normacy with people
and friends. Obviously, during COVID,

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you know, we understood all the
guidelines and such, but it was this

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time we said, let's do the
exact opposite. Let's I mean, we

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took the kids to the Aquium of
the Pacific yesterday, or we didn't because

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we couldn't get in. I'm gonna
yell at you later, I'm gonna yell

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at the power and to have to
drive down there. We have, we

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have Quentin, we have Elliott a
whole way down she can't wait to see

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the fishies. I get down there
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the thing and they said the next
reservation is four thirty. You have to

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have a reservation. Yeah. I
wanted to pay her off. I go,

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hey, I'll no so But anyway, so we didn't get in.

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We rented one of those whale watching
boat things, but Quin got to go

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on a boat less than two weeks
old. So the point is trying to

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get back to real life and just
kind of you know, we did a

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renovation here, we did just getting
our careers on track, having the two

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kids, and now it finally feels
like we got to where we need to

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be. Let's start living life and
not be stressed out about things. Can

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I talk a little smack about some
family which people might relate to? Please?

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Please? Okay? What's want to
take a break? Oh, let's

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take a quick break first, bring
it? Okay. So I love my

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wife. I moved out to Los
Angeles over twenty years ago. I don't

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have any relatives out here. My
family is my friends, and I have

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my family back home. I love
my mom, my stepdad, and I

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have two brothers, which I have. You know, I like them,

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I think they like me. But
I don't have family out here. So

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when I met my wife, immediately
I was kind of, uh, what

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do you call it? Inductor?
How do you integrated into their family?

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Her mom was great, Tanya.
Her mom had remarried to a guy named

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John, real nice guy, and
then her dad is Ruby, real fun

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guy. They welcome me in,
no like weirdness because I had been dating

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girls in the past and like I'd
meet the parents and like, Dad's kind

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of a dick to me because he's
trying to fill me out. Whatever.

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They didn't have any of that.
Maybe they sense that I had really good

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intentions. Maybe they just want to
get rid of their daughter. You know.

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It was just like, yeah,
take her, oh yeah in great

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fine. Yeah. Well I was
excited because I had two older brothers when

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I was a kid. I have
a brother Mark, who's eleven years older

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than me, and my brother Dwayne
is almost thirteen. Wow. So as

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a kid, and they're half brothers
too, so as a kid, they

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were already doing their own thing.
And my dad took off when I was

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like two, So it was me
with my grandmother. These are your mom

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got remarried? Yeah? Four times? Oh I love my mom. It

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was this crazy seventies and eighties.
Yeah, my father was married three four

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times. It would be like my
mom was wife number three and she was

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really young and she was third white. Can you imagine being she was twenty,

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She was nineteen when she married him. She met him at seventeen,

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married him at nineteen, and she
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a fucking red fly? Are you
kidding me? It's I want to talk

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to everybody from the seventies and eighties, What the fuck were you think you

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could have just dated, just live
with each other. I guess they'd probably

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argue there was a stigma still back
then about that, but I know,

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but not a stigma about being married
four times. It's a good point.

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So the brothers were from your Oh
we want to go deep. So my

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brother Dwayne, who's the oldest,
he never knew who his dad was.

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Okay, so I made the mistake
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I got him a twenty three in
me and he found out who his mom

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was. And he also found out
he has a sister that lives in the

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same town that he's probably passed by
fifty times in our small town his entire

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life, never knowing the two of
them in their six months apart, and

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they finally reconnected and now there,
See, isn't that great? Twenty three

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in me I can also ruined lie
and it's had a good thing. This

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mom's pretty pissed about it. He
came from your mom. What's that he's

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from your mom? Same mom,
So that your mom didn't know who his

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dad was, or we think she
knew. I think I try not to

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ask too many questions. Stuff sept
my mom at a kind of late stage

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in her life. But if you
asked her, she say she wanted to

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protect him because he was a drug
addict. Okay, crazy enough. Though

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he outlived Mark and my dad's life. He died in twenty sixteen, so

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we he did some digging. He
was a musician, a drummer in a

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band where my mom was a cocktail
waitress in the late sixties or mid sixties.

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Okay. Yeah. So so then
she had another son, Mark a

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couple of years later, two years
later, and then with a different another

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guy, other guy okay, and
then later another like eleven years later.

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By the way, you want to
talk about little kids and mean shit that

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we'd say to each other my next
to her neighbors Michelle and Donna, whenever

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we'd get in a fight when we
were six. I remember I remember them

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going, your mother's a whore.
Oh my god, kids are assholes.

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Well they got from their parents,
right, Oh god. The seventies and

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eighties, so yeah, Mark,
and then uh and then me I came.

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I came in nineteen seventy four with
Peter Hicky, my dad who then

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proceeded to move to Arizona and move. Yeah. Yeah, it's crazy.

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You learn, You learn from those
things, like I never want to be

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a parent like that. I can't
understand why. I guess sometimes God,

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I have tried to understand this,
like that was a different time. And

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my mom had told me, you
know, when we've talked about this that

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it's like it was a different time. Our parents weren't there for us,

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so we didn't understand, you know. And I was like, Okay,

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you have a tough go to write
stuff with your mom. Yeah. Yeah,

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so you and your mom not clothes. Oh no, we are okay.

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So mom was kind of checked out
my entire wo I sound like a

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whiney. She's I'll tell you what
she was. She was young, and

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then she had kids, and I
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And then my grandmother was there,
so I basically would go to school,

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hang out with Grammy, and my
mom and I actually connected in my early

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twenties, and you know, that's
been now, you know, thirty some

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odd years, and they've we've had
a great relationship since then. And she's

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copped to some of it. She's
copped to, you know, not being

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there enough and not enough hugs and
all that other stuff. But yeah,

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I just and I don't. My
brother Dwayne can't stand her, so they

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and he's had a lot of therapy
too, which then brings about when he

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starts learning these things, you've not
understood how to process them, how you

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should feel about things. Now he's
gone full on on my mother at her

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late age, and I told him, I said, you know, she's

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mom's eighty. Dwayne like, I
just don't think that you should be beating

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her up right now. I think
kind of let it go. Yeah,

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what good is it gonna do?
I just yeah, maybe for him,

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but maybe he'd feel bad later on. I think it just I mean,

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you don't have to be best friends, but maybe you know, say happy

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Mother's Day or I don't. I
don't know, but that's not going to

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happen, you know us. So
that's that's my big My big thing is

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I want to right the wrong and
be a really good dad. But now

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with Shari's parents, yeah, you
were like, this is great. I'm

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in. I'm integrated into the family
right and so I love my father in

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law, I love my father and
step law. I guess I love my

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mother in law, and when she
and I were just dating, we were

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kind of hanging out, you know. And by the way, uh,

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despite the fact that my wife's parents
are divorced, they're on good terms.

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So we'd have Thanksgiving with each other
and Christmas and all those other things.

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So when the when the when Elliott
came along, I was I assumed that

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that would continue and that we'd have
a family structure, you know, because

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otherwise it's just shre and I really
so this some odd things happen again.

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I asked my wife talk about this. I'm not talking. I how to

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turn in here. She won't have
a problem with me sharing this. She

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has had therapy, and I don't
know if having kids brought about this.

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She didn't tell me. She let
it slip, like saying something under her

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breath. About six months ago,
we were watching something we're watching like a

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Better Help ad by the way,
get Better Help, It's great, and

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she said something on her breath about
therapy, and I said, you're going

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to therapy and she said yeah,
And I was like, whoa, you

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didn't tell me you're going. I'm
your husband, you didn't tell me,

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And I just felt left out.
And then she had explained she was going

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to therapy for issues with her father, who they had had little fights back

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and forth over the years where they
wouldn't talk for two months, and it

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would be something stupid, like they
went out to a restaurant and he was

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irritating the waiter asking them for too
much water or just some little things,

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and I'd be like, this is
such a weird thing that you guys are

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fighting about. So Dad Ruby used
to come here and help out with Elliott,

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especially when we want to do something
on the weekend and whatnot. But

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at some point, Shari is going
to therapy and she confronts him about some

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things that he did during her childhood. And by the way, I think

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naturally the audience might go to some
kind of not what that it's basically being

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cheating on the mom and things like
that. It kind of destroyed their family.

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So she starts confronting him about that, and he does not like it,

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and he's not ready to receive that, and I think he doesn't understand

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where the hell it's coming from,
because now, you know, my wife's

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thirty five and he's almost sixty.
They've never talked about it, and now

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he's taking this in and I try
to explain to shar that I don't think

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he saw this coming and this is
confusing for him, and he's of a

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different generation where I think it's going
to take him a little bit more time

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to understand why you need answers to
these questions, right, so he won't

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receive it. So we haven't seen
him in eight because they had a falling

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out, so he's out of the
picture. So I've tried to maintain a

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relationship with him through texting and photos
and we miss you and Father's Day and

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things like that, because I'm sure
we okay with that. She will she

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doesn't want me to go too far
with it because she doesn't want him around.

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And so I'm in this difficult position
where I don't have a problem with

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the guy. He didn't raise me. It's been a party with him.

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He's like, you know, that's
such a touchy subject though, you know,

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because I kind of did the same
thing with my husband's mom because I

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thought she's your mom. It's your
mom, and then I don't know,

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I regret it. It's one of
my few regrets in our marriage that I

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pushed that you push for them to
reconnect, for them to stay connected,

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and I don't think it's a relationship
that needed nurturing. So I don't there's

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a balance, and I'm not saying
that's the case with her father, but

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it's just it's a really delicate boundary, which I'm sure you know. I'm

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sure you and sure we have talked
about. Yeah, I'm trying to respect

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her her boundaries with that, especially
when she was pregnant, because you know,

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just the danger of her possibly getting
so upset that's something. So I

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didn't even really bring it up during
especially the later part of the pregnancy.

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It was just like, I am
not even going to bring this up,

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you know, but I do miss
him, and Elliott constantly mentions him because

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he is such a big part of
her, you know, you know,

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early stages. So then we are
like, all right, how about your

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mother and your father in law?
And because they're the last two pieces members

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of the family that we have and
Tanya is not getting along with her husband

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and they're selling their house, so
we have not seen them in four months,

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and so where did they live?
A little north of Rancho Kukumanga.

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Okay, so I'm thinking they're gonna
be up here just excited to see the

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baby boy. And so she got
on the phone with me the day after

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Quintin was born and she was crying
and saying, I'm so sorry I didn't

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I couldn't make it up there,
you know, we were doing a showing

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of the house the next day or
whatever. And I'm like, oh,

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was she supposed to come, like
for the birth, like be at the

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hospital. So and by the way, we haven't seen them in three months

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before this, so they've been gone, right, so U and it was

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Sari really disappointed that our mom didn't
come. Yeah, yeah, because it's

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just her and I and we have
no help aside from our you know,

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Lupeta, right, he's now a
family member, but we don't have any

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help. So if like this,
the school's not going to be there tomorrow,

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that means one of us or we'll
probably take shifts. She'll do the

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first half of the day, I'll
do the second half. We we can't

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go to work, and it just
it just messes with you, especially when

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you're trying to get back into the
you know, back into the normacy of

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your schedule routine. And so this
is what really pissed me off yesterday.

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I actually I've never said anything bad
to my mom. I've ever spoken bad.

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She's always been really nice and respectful
to me. So all week she's

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saying she's gonna come up on Sunday, that being what is that yesterday?

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Yeah? So, and Elliott's getting
excited, you know, she's three and

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a half. And uh, and
I start I hear my mother, I'm

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sorry. My wife on the phone
with her mother at like ten am,

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and she's looking at me, give
me that look like there's some bullshit going

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on here. And her mother's like, called John, who's her husband.

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He's out at Stater Brothers picking something
up, but we're not. You know,

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he he wants to stay home at
the open house because he doesn't trust

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people being in our house when they're
doing a showing. So can you convince

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him to come up? And I'm
just like, what is this bullshit?

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By the way, real estate agents
love it when trust really buyers, especially

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when you're sitting in around Yeah.
Yeah, So my wife does call him.

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I'm like, why the fuck are
you calling him? Don't play this

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game. Tell your mom are you
coming up or not? Does the mom

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drive yes? So we got that. I was nervous because her mom's sixty

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and she's had some health problems,
so we had verified sixty sixty her mom's

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my age. Yeah, say like
me in a couple of years. Yeah,

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I always say Tom Cruise just jumped
off a fucking motorcycle. Them driving

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like like, I can can you
imagine somebody being like, oh Stephanie's driving

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is well, I can't imagine that
act well you yeah, with my anxiety,

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but yeah, okay, So I'm
like, what the fuck? So

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then she asked her mom, are
you coming up or not? And then

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she says, well, let me
call you back, and she's like whispering

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or something. And then she calls
back and she's like, I'm sorry.

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We were going to stay here because
I have to watch John. Okay,

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I have to so John has to
watch the real turn. She wants to

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watch John and make sure he doesn't
stupid her the real real estate agent.

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Get out of here. Oh my
god. So she's not coming and then

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probably around. So then that's wh
why doesn't she just come alone? Exactly?

410
00:28:04,839 --> 00:28:10,079
Why these are not answers that I
have? This is all confusing to

411
00:28:10,079 --> 00:28:12,599
me, and I and I just
I get mad because I'm like, what

412
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,200
game are we playing? Do you
not want to drive up here? Is

413
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:21,720
this a hassle? Do you not
really kid's forty five minutes? Yeah,

414
00:28:21,799 --> 00:28:25,519
Jesus fucking family, we ask you
this. Does Shari have siblings? No,

415
00:28:26,319 --> 00:28:33,039
so this is their second grandchild and
they're not that interested. And not

416
00:28:33,079 --> 00:28:36,960
only that, there was kind of
a statement made that because the house isn't

417
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:40,119
sold and there's a lot going on, there's no they can't even put a

418
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,359
visit on the calendar. Right,
So now it's in limbo. Yes,

419
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:47,960
So now you have my wife and
I with two kids and no school in

420
00:28:48,039 --> 00:28:49,359
trying to figure out and by the
way, we want to see them,

421
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,920
and Elliott wants you know, she
calls a Mima and Mimi and Papa John

422
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,359
and that's all she said yesterday.
And then we had to pull an audible

423
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,960
and go, let's go to the
acquirement of the Pacific. So we put

424
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,240
a two week old and a three
and a half year old in a car

425
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:07,000
seat for an hour and a half
ride down to Long Beach just to get

426
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:08,799
out of the house and figure out
what Because you guys know and a lot

427
00:29:08,839 --> 00:29:12,119
of your listeners as parents Saturdays and
Sundays, especially when the kids are young,

428
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,799
as how the fuck do I burn
through? Oh my god, the

429
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,920
right. Yeah, and so that's
your mission work. Lynette first told me

430
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:23,039
this when we were in Vegas like
five years ago. I'd never thought of

431
00:29:23,039 --> 00:29:27,480
this. She said, Saturdays and
Sundays are the work totally. Oh,

432
00:29:27,519 --> 00:29:30,759
I would be so resentful of three
day weekends. Oh my god. When

433
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:37,599
Luther King fuck himself, I was
like, are you kidding me? A

434
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:42,160
Monday that I know? I remember
thinking of my kid Remember when days off

435
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:48,200
I looked forward to them? Right, No, not with young kids.

436
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:52,359
You're like, oh my god,
it's a whole day of like how many

437
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:56,039
trips to the dollar store can you
do? That's taken? Another walk that's

438
00:29:56,079 --> 00:30:00,559
taken another You can't only go to
the park for like, I mean two

439
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,400
The park has an expiration that's like
two hours. Yes, tops, yep,

440
00:30:03,559 --> 00:30:07,640
yeah, Kaylin, you know what
we're talking about. Oh yeah,

441
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:11,279
you're in it. Yeah. We
did a lot of the park last year,

442
00:30:11,119 --> 00:30:15,440
and uh, I know we went. We're close to the beach,

443
00:30:15,559 --> 00:30:18,079
so we can always just pop over
to the beach. So that's very helpful.

444
00:30:18,319 --> 00:30:22,599
Yeah, beach is hard though,
that's a haul and a half.

445
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,319
That scared me. I went to
Paradise cold. When my mom was here

446
00:30:25,359 --> 00:30:27,480
before the four Quentin was born,
and Elliott wanted to jump in the ocean,

447
00:30:27,519 --> 00:30:30,039
she runs right up and that tide
just put I put a floaty on

448
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:34,480
or whatever. But and she's a
suicide machine. So I'm like, you

449
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:38,960
just gotta watch her like a hawk. And then now you're a lifeguard right

450
00:30:40,079 --> 00:30:42,920
in your word, Yeah, I'm
paid. It's all unpaid. You're like,

451
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:45,799
you know, it's so interesting that
when I have help, I have

452
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:49,559
to pay that person like a lot
of money, but I do this exact

453
00:30:49,559 --> 00:30:55,160
same job for free. Like I
could be making so much money watching my

454
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:56,640
own kid, you know what,
I'm right, But it's like we have

455
00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:00,759
to do it for the pleasure of
it, whereas people get paid a lot

456
00:31:00,799 --> 00:31:04,400
of money to entertain the kids all
day. I remember, those should just

457
00:31:04,839 --> 00:31:08,839
like recruit a few neighborhood kids because
you're doing it anyway, so you would

458
00:31:08,839 --> 00:31:15,079
get paid, right, just some
random babies, You're right, I remember.

459
00:31:15,359 --> 00:31:19,000
I mean I probably told the story
on the podcast before. But when

460
00:31:19,079 --> 00:31:23,440
Elbi was were the twins a little
maybe I just had Elby and she was

461
00:31:23,519 --> 00:31:30,319
little, and something was wrong with
John. He had to go get a

462
00:31:30,319 --> 00:31:34,279
test he there was blood in his
urine. Remember the story. I called

463
00:31:34,319 --> 00:31:40,680
a hem materia or something. Anyway, it somehow he had had some test

464
00:31:40,799 --> 00:31:44,839
and it was like, you need
to go get a a CT scan or

465
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:48,400
whatever immediately. And I was freaking
out, like I fully thought he had

466
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:55,440
cancer. And somehow I needed some
I needed somebody to watch Elby for like

467
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,519
an hour so I could take him
to the place. And there was just

468
00:31:57,599 --> 00:32:02,559
nobody because I guess at that point
my mom. I don't know if that

469
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:07,839
was no. My mom was just
so unhelpful when I had a little kid.

470
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,480
I mean, it was the biggest
imposition on her. If I asked

471
00:32:10,519 --> 00:32:15,200
her to come see Elby if I
babysitting, was just like her whole thing

472
00:32:15,279 --> 00:32:19,359
was, yeah, I'll watch Elby
for you, but it has to be

473
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,279
at my house. She lived in
West Hollywood, so I'd have to bring

474
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:27,400
all the stuff, Like I'd have
to drive over the hill to West Hollywood,

475
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,000
leave her there with a pack and
play and like all her stuff.

476
00:32:30,039 --> 00:32:35,359
Because my mom didn't have anything that
people that don't have children. Houses need

477
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,200
to be kids safe, right,
you know, there's patios, there's swimming

478
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:42,279
pools, there's yeah, but this
was even when Elbe was a baby.

479
00:32:42,319 --> 00:32:45,240
At this point, my mom was
not interested in Like I was like,

480
00:32:45,279 --> 00:32:47,680
but could you just come to my
house so she could sleep in her crib?

481
00:32:49,079 --> 00:32:51,559
You know, my mom was like, no, it's just inconvenient,

482
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,880
so if you want us to watch
her, I had to drive there and

483
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:59,200
then I left her there and then
we I had to go back over the

484
00:32:59,279 --> 00:33:02,599
hill because this was when I went
to the Emmy's with John daytime. Emmys,

485
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:07,839
don't get excited, no celebs.
We and then we so I got

486
00:33:08,039 --> 00:33:12,880
dressed up, drove in the like
it was hot, drove down there,

487
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,480
my mom watched the baby, went
to the Emmys, drove all the way

488
00:33:15,519 --> 00:33:19,519
back over the hill, picked up
the baby even though she was asleep,

489
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:23,279
had to transfer her out of the
pack and play packaball her ship, put

490
00:33:23,279 --> 00:33:28,240
her in the car seat, drive
home, and then transfer her back into

491
00:33:28,279 --> 00:33:30,960
her crib. And I'm sure she
didn't go right back to sleep. Rather

492
00:33:30,039 --> 00:33:34,279
than my mom just driving over,
who had nothing to do, by the

493
00:33:34,319 --> 00:33:37,799
way, no other grandkids, like
nothing on her schedule. She just didn't

494
00:33:37,839 --> 00:33:42,119
feel like it. So I know, like that feeling of feeling like you

495
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,240
have no help, and the time
that John had to go for this test.

496
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:49,799
I remember begging and literally begging a
neighbor who had a kid. So

497
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:54,000
this was a little older Elby's age, and she was like, yeah,

498
00:33:54,039 --> 00:33:59,519
I was planning on taking my kid
to like whatever, some indoor play place,

499
00:33:59,559 --> 00:34:02,119
and I was could you take LB
two take with her? No,

500
00:34:02,519 --> 00:34:07,639
I'm sorry I had to drag LB. I don't remember how I did it,

501
00:34:07,679 --> 00:34:10,000
but I just remember that feeling of
just like, oh my god,

502
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:15,519
I have no one and no backup
plan. It's just me. That's like,

503
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:19,880
if something's wrong with John, is
mom still with us? Mine?

504
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:23,239
Yeah, she is alive and well
I have not spoken to her. Last

505
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:28,320
time I spoke to her was when
Elbi was two. Wow, okay doing

506
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,039
the mouth on that. So LB
is eighteen going on nineteen. Yeah,

507
00:34:31,159 --> 00:34:36,880
how about you, Robin. My
parents, my father died about six years

508
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:40,000
ago and my mom died two years
ago. So but they were I have

509
00:34:40,119 --> 00:34:44,239
no stories to share that We're awesome. They were awesome, and they were

510
00:34:44,599 --> 00:34:46,119
That's why I wanted. That's my
mission. I want my kids. And

511
00:34:46,119 --> 00:34:49,760
they're like, well, you know
one time I wanted to. I wanted,

512
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,840
you know, the the Supreme Package
at Disneyland, the Skip, the

513
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,800
line pass and Dad didn't get it. And they're pitching about that totally,

514
00:34:55,840 --> 00:35:00,280
and I'll go shut up. Yes, shot, I was an amazing father.

515
00:35:00,519 --> 00:35:04,280
Okay, yeah, I didn't see
There was a time I didn't see

516
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,280
my dad for sixteen years at some
point, and then I saw him at

517
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:10,280
the tail end of his life.
I last time I saw him as like

518
00:35:12,159 --> 00:35:15,719
my senior year of college, he
showed up at our dorms. I'm sorry,

519
00:35:15,559 --> 00:35:21,000
freshman year drives up. I don't
know what he was doing in Nevada

520
00:35:21,159 --> 00:35:25,079
and he stayed the night. It
was Thanksgiving in our dorms. What what?

521
00:35:27,039 --> 00:35:30,199
Yeah? Oh my god? Talk
about boundary issues and get this,

522
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,360
you know, it's so bizarry.
So I feel I feel bad for the

523
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,840
audience, going like, oh,
Pat always comes in here and like wines

524
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,199
about his horrible childhood. I had
an amazing childhood otherwise, But I can

525
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:45,280
talk about these fuck ups my dad. It doesn't sound that great otherwise,

526
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:49,400
by the way. You know what, as a kid, maybe in comparison

527
00:35:49,519 --> 00:35:53,519
to the dad, but my life
was about friends, friends that I still

528
00:35:53,559 --> 00:35:58,199
have to this day. Kids.
Yeah, I friends that I made in

529
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:00,920
the third grade on the school bus
are still the people that I talked to

530
00:36:01,159 --> 00:36:04,760
So my dad sits me on the
couch, get this one, and I

531
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:09,280
shared this with my mother in your
spoken to him for sixteen years prior to

532
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:13,519
this was the sixteen years coming.
So he disappeared when I was three,

533
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:19,159
and then I would see him maybe
once a year he'd drop off a Christmas

534
00:36:19,159 --> 00:36:23,079
present or because he'd always live in
different states. And then I did live

535
00:36:23,079 --> 00:36:27,960
with him for about six months in
nineteen ninety because my mom moved to England

536
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:31,639
for a little while and he hated
that and I rarely saw him at the

537
00:36:31,679 --> 00:36:36,719
house. But then yeah, so
that was kind of like, Oh,

538
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,480
he told me that he was selling
the house, so I needed to leave,

539
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,199
and so then my mom had to
rush back to England so that I

540
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:45,519
could have somewhere to stay to finish
up I think my junior or sophomore year

541
00:36:45,559 --> 00:36:51,719
that year, and so that is
the last time I saw him until my

542
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:55,480
freshman year of college, where he
I mean, just back up for like

543
00:36:55,639 --> 00:37:01,719
one moment. Can you imagine in
any universe telling your kids, I gotta

544
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:06,039
sell the house so I don't like
figure it out? Oh you want to?

545
00:37:06,199 --> 00:37:10,199
Can you fucking imagine? All right? Hold on, take one break

546
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:14,280
let's take Oh, I got a
story good, I mean not good,

547
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:19,639
but I got a story. Tell
it so he doesn't actually sell the house.

548
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,320
I am now living with my mother
in a one bedroom apartment on a

549
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,400
cot in the living room, so
I can't even have friends over the because

550
00:37:25,679 --> 00:37:30,000
I basically am sleeping in a one
bed. I'm embarrassed. I remember my

551
00:37:30,079 --> 00:37:31,760
mom was like, hey, she
heard me bitching about it and with a

552
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,320
friend on the phone, and she's
like, look at it. It's like

553
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,280
it's half full, not half empty. I was like, all right,

554
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:42,679
Mom, so which you have?
Apparently? Yeah, well you have to

555
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:46,320
be so. I So it's junior
year of high school, and you know,

556
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:52,239
I'm starting to drink beers and stuff. I remember that I'd hid a

557
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,639
twelve pack of bud light in my
dad's house in a and I think a

558
00:37:55,760 --> 00:38:00,920
closet or somewhere. So my friend
John rive me over there because he has

559
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:04,360
a car, and no one's supposed
to be home because the house is for

560
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,079
sale or something. So I sneak
in through the attic. On the East

561
00:38:07,079 --> 00:38:09,559
coast, there's attis. I crawled
through a crawl space and I'm going to

562
00:38:09,679 --> 00:38:15,639
go up the stairs in which would
open to the kitchen, so, by

563
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:22,079
the way, I can totally relate
to kneating beer that back. I walk

564
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:25,639
up the stairs and it's like a
scene from Where's that Pulp Fiction? Where

565
00:38:27,039 --> 00:38:30,280
Bruce Willis feels so fucking comfortable that
he's gonna eat a pop tart or something,

566
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,039
but there's like two people trying to
kill him in his apartment. So

567
00:38:32,199 --> 00:38:35,960
I kind of nonchalantly just walk up, going, oh, coast is clear,

568
00:38:36,039 --> 00:38:38,880
no one's here. I opened the
door and my dad is in a

569
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:45,400
pink dress in heels with a wig
on, in earrings, and there's a

570
00:38:45,519 --> 00:38:50,119
guy sitting in his underwear at the
dinner table, and my dad was just

571
00:38:50,519 --> 00:38:53,679
pulling open the oven because something was
cooking. This is at three in the

572
00:38:53,679 --> 00:39:00,519
afternoon. So are you sure this
wasn't a fever dream because there's some information

573
00:39:00,599 --> 00:39:07,039
that came later. Wow. So
the door opens. I go, Dad,

574
00:39:07,599 --> 00:39:12,440
what's going on here? Why are
you in a dress? And he

575
00:39:12,639 --> 00:39:21,679
said it's a Halloween m And I
said it's April and he said you gotta

576
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:27,760
go M. So, you know, no judgment, but very a lot

577
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,079
of beer. I did not get
the beer. I just got in the

578
00:39:30,159 --> 00:39:37,000
car. Give me one second,
I think I dropped something, so I

579
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,760
didn't tell a soul. In fact, I didn't start sharing this to people

580
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:45,199
outside of my family because I at
some point, oh, we want to

581
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:49,199
talk about East Coast, and East
Coast is in their fucking sense of humor.

582
00:39:49,559 --> 00:39:54,280
So I share this with my brother
Mark, who is God, he's

583
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:58,920
got a weird sense of humor.
And I asked my mom about it,

584
00:39:59,159 --> 00:40:02,280
and she said, well, one
time I woke up when we were first

585
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:07,400
dating, and I saw your dad
and he was dressed in my clothes,

586
00:40:07,559 --> 00:40:10,360
in my heels, and he just
and I said, Peter, what are

587
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,119
you doing? And he said,
I just like the way it feels.

588
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:19,800
No judgment, yeah, no,
not at all. And so then my

589
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:23,440
uncle Barry was his coworker at a
company called Digital, which I think got

590
00:40:23,679 --> 00:40:28,639
bought by like I don't know,
like what's one of the big computer companies

591
00:40:28,639 --> 00:40:32,679
anyway, in the eighties. This
was a huge Texas Instruments or something huge

592
00:40:32,679 --> 00:40:37,000
company. And my uncle shared with
me that my dad, who was like

593
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:42,519
a high level person at this company, who had actually no like And this

594
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,559
is just adults telling me this as
a kid, and this is me sharing

595
00:40:45,599 --> 00:40:51,519
it as I remember being told me
my dad was essentially a social climber through

596
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:57,400
having sex with other men at the
company, and they flew him around the

597
00:40:57,639 --> 00:41:00,519
world. So I had some eyes
it possibly, and he shouldn't have felt

598
00:41:00,519 --> 00:41:04,880
this way even back then. My
mum raised me as someone who was just

599
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:12,280
understanding and just everyone's lives, you
know, And so I I surmised that

600
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,639
my father was probably trying to hide
us because he didn't think I'd understand or

601
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:21,760
whatever. But that's why he didn't
like you living with him, probably because

602
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,119
he couldn't live his life like that. He was always gone, never there.

603
00:41:24,199 --> 00:41:27,360
It was so weird. I had
the whole house to myself. I'd

604
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:31,199
never had that kind of freedom before. So wait, so this was before

605
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:36,920
though he showed up at your dorm. I'm sorry. Yeah, now,

606
00:41:37,079 --> 00:41:39,960
so we don't talk. That's the
last time I see him stays at the

607
00:41:40,039 --> 00:41:45,880
dorm. We're sitting on the couch
and a couple of my roommates had decided

608
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:47,039
to stay through Thanksgiving. They loved
it because he went out and bought us

609
00:41:47,079 --> 00:41:51,000
booze. He hooked us up,
so a bunch of nineteen year olds.

610
00:41:51,639 --> 00:41:53,760
I remember the first time I ever
tried wild turkey, which is completely disgusting.

611
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:58,679
So Annie also bought Thanksgiving dinner for
everybody. So he sleeps. I

612
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:02,079
guess he decides he's gonna asleep in
our dorm with us, and we're drinking

613
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:06,800
and he shares with me, just
like off the cuff, like you tell

614
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,519
somebody that your favorite flavor of cake
is chocolate. He says, you know,

615
00:42:09,559 --> 00:42:15,000
I didn't want to have you.
And I was like really, and

616
00:42:15,079 --> 00:42:16,119
he said yeah, I tried talking. Your mom would get an abortion,

617
00:42:16,199 --> 00:42:20,639
but she wouldn't do it. I
was like, oh my god, why

618
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:24,519
would someone say that? And then
when my mom was out here like three

619
00:42:24,559 --> 00:42:28,239
weeks ago, I actually, this
is where all right? So my mom

620
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:30,719
coming out here three weeks ago.
By the way, if the audience doesn't

621
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:36,119
like me, they're gonna hate this
podcast. Why your mom? So your

622
00:42:36,159 --> 00:42:38,079
mom came out like your mom made
the trip. My mom made the trip

623
00:42:38,159 --> 00:42:43,159
finally because she had had a stroke
in late twenty eighteen. She was a

624
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:46,199
tough woman, but she was now
scared and had panic attacks and would not

625
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:49,960
get on a plane. Then COVID
happened, but she finally made it out

626
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:53,719
here. I'm just comparing it to
the Rancho Cucamo, Yes, but not

627
00:42:54,000 --> 00:43:00,079
during the birth. She came out
basically for the baby shower, which meant

628
00:43:00,159 --> 00:43:02,440
something. It meant a lot to
me. She could have timed it out

629
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,679
to come out for the birth.
I kind of preferred, you know,

630
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:07,519
because she's eighty and whatnot, just
come out and have a good time.

631
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,119
And I kind of looked at it, and we took lots of pictures.

632
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,800
Is I'll see my mom again,
but I think this is probably the last

633
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,239
time she'll be here, so I
wanted to make sure we captured it.

634
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:20,360
I took her, We went out
to a paradise cove, We had the

635
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,440
baby shower, we went out to
see Cool in the Gang at the Hollywood

636
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:25,480
Bowl and boxes and just tried to
make the best four days out of it

637
00:43:25,559 --> 00:43:29,719
as we could. Well, and
then you could spend time with her and

638
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,039
not caring for a new thing,
exactly right. It was more about kind

639
00:43:32,039 --> 00:43:36,079
of like closing a door in a
way. I think. So my mom

640
00:43:36,199 --> 00:43:38,280
had said, yeah, basically,
when you weren't a girl, and this

641
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:44,360
is such a ship headed guy,
excuse he was done when when he found

642
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:45,480
out you were a boy, he
was done. I was like, oh,

643
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:51,639
well, I'm glad, I asked, but yeah, so he told

644
00:43:51,679 --> 00:43:53,559
you that after the door, Why
am I so stuck on the dorm thing

645
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:59,880
he came out in them? Because
it's reminding me of what was that document?

646
00:44:00,559 --> 00:44:07,360
Yes, yes, where dad risen
and then moves into them. Basically

647
00:44:07,519 --> 00:44:12,320
I'm connected to that story. So
that's the Lawrence family that owned that academy.

648
00:44:12,679 --> 00:44:17,119
The Lawrence is their son is the
famous TV producer Bill Lawrence that created

649
00:44:17,199 --> 00:44:23,920
Ted Lasso. Wait is wait so
my wife is the personal assistant of his

650
00:44:24,079 --> 00:44:28,960
wife. So wait, so Sarah
Lawrence the college. That's what we're talking

651
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:32,199
about. Is the Lawrence family owns
that college, and Bill Lawrence is the

652
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:37,480
son. Bill Lawrence is the son. Okay, yeah, wow, that

653
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,559
was a crazy story. Crazy story
so that I remember when that was taking

654
00:44:40,599 --> 00:44:45,760
place, that was well, that
was forever ago. But but that dad

655
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:49,639
of the girl, oh yeah,
showed up at the door and was just

656
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,639
like, hey, guys, let
me buy some beer and some dinner and

657
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:58,000
and I'm just gonna stay Awhile that
brought back memories when I watched that talk.

658
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,880
I bet yeah, weird similarity.
He only did one night, one

659
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:05,360
night, and you don't think that
that's the last time you're going to see

660
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:09,599
him. So then I'm in my
senior year of college, and I was

661
00:45:09,639 --> 00:45:15,159
always no, but it's in He
lives in Florida. Now he's living with

662
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:20,880
my grandmother by the way, spending
all her money. So I'm in touch

663
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:23,480
with my grandmother. We write letters
where if there's phone calls and she would

664
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:27,000
talk about what a piece of crappy
was and she say, Peter, get

665
00:45:27,039 --> 00:45:30,320
on the phone, talk to your
son. So the plan is my senior

666
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:32,480
year, everyone goes away for spring
break. I was waiting for a plane

667
00:45:32,519 --> 00:45:36,760
ticket for the to go down there
to hang out with them spring break.

668
00:45:37,679 --> 00:45:42,639
So I get a call from my
dad on the it's like the Thursday before

669
00:45:42,679 --> 00:45:45,440
you know you're supposed to get Monday
or whatever, a few days before spring

670
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:49,519
break would happen. He tells me
the plane ticket isn't coming because my grandmother's

671
00:45:49,559 --> 00:45:52,519
in the hospital, and so we
got to cancel the trip. So I

672
00:45:52,599 --> 00:45:55,920
spent the entire week basically hanging out
by myself. There were a couple of

673
00:45:55,960 --> 00:46:00,519
people there, but it was a
shitty spring break. So a week later,

674
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:05,000
I call when I think he's not
going to be there, because I

675
00:46:05,079 --> 00:46:07,639
knew he would would go fishing during
the day quite a bit and She picked

676
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:10,679
up the phone and I said,
Grammy, are you okay? And she

677
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:14,239
said, what what do you mean
I'm fine? I said, you weren't

678
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:15,840
in the hospital. She said now, oh wow. So I said,

679
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:19,400
fuck it. No more letters to
that asshole. I'm not going to pretend

680
00:46:19,519 --> 00:46:22,960
writing giving him Christmas cards. I
don't see him for sixteen years. Two

681
00:46:23,079 --> 00:46:27,920
thousand and seven, I get a
phone call. I'm in Los Angeles.

682
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,239
Would you like to meet And he
do you know where the Fox and Hound

683
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:34,199
Bar is? Yes, he says, I'm out of place called the Fox

684
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:36,360
and how would you come meet me? And I said yes. And I

685
00:46:37,039 --> 00:46:40,320
saw him maybe once a year for
three years, and then he passed and

686
00:46:40,519 --> 00:46:46,480
I flew down to Florida for one
day in the hospital to kind of think

687
00:46:46,519 --> 00:46:51,920
I was gonna say goodbye. I
got on the plane, had a couple

688
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:55,559
of Pino Grid shows, got off
the plane, drove home, not drove

689
00:46:55,639 --> 00:47:00,440
home, took it taxi, fell
asleep, woke up. His often said

690
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:06,599
he died and that was it.
Well he had a girlfriend. Yeah,

691
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:10,039
well that's well, I'll save that
for another That is a crazy one.

692
00:47:10,559 --> 00:47:15,199
That is I'll save that for another
fcol Yeah, I share my see we

693
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:16,679
can't do this on a podcast.
All we do is talk about super reality

694
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:22,400
TV. I mean, so thanks
for this therapy session. By the way,

695
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:28,639
thank you for this therapy gosh.
So in conclusion, Sheari's mom kind

696
00:47:28,639 --> 00:47:31,320
of being a dead beat. Yep, all the parents gone of like it's

697
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:38,000
no help, blown away. But
you're you were saying before we started that

698
00:47:38,119 --> 00:47:43,000
she's like doing well, her mood
is good, like all right, So

699
00:47:44,039 --> 00:47:45,800
I didn't realize. So how much
do you guys? What do you think

700
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:50,920
of this? I think when kids
are born, eighty percent of who they

701
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:55,199
are just comes out. I would
agree with that. It's either nurture and

702
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:59,960
nature, right fifty fifty. I
think it's more they are who they are.

703
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:05,199
Yeah, Elliott came out as a
tornado. I remember the first night

704
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:07,320
we brought her home. Srie and
I are looking at it like, what

705
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,719
the hell did we get ourselves into? She was throwing the pacifier. We

706
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:15,119
took turns holding it in her mouth
all night long. We finally had to

707
00:48:15,159 --> 00:48:17,559
get the snow that we rented just
to put her asleep. The second she

708
00:48:17,639 --> 00:48:21,800
could start talking, she was stepping
like trying to attack the dogs, just

709
00:48:22,199 --> 00:48:27,400
in a fun way. And she
is she's a nightmare. A nightmare.

710
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,320
Quentin sleeps through the night. We
have to wake him up. And I

711
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:35,159
don't have a favorite. I actually
like the crazy, but I am hoping

712
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:38,159
that he's mellow and right now it's
it seems that he is going to be

713
00:48:38,199 --> 00:48:43,159
a very mellow, nice, gentle
kid, and she is a hurricane right

714
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:50,840
good. Interesting. Zander was was
pretty mellow kid, pretty like didn't get

715
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:54,599
ruffled very easily. And Sadie was
already like I would tell John, I'm

716
00:48:54,639 --> 00:49:00,400
like, this kid never smiles like
she's just like Jack was very earnest,

717
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:05,000
that's word. We's like an old
man. And to get him to nap,

718
00:49:05,599 --> 00:49:09,000
we had to swaddle him to within
an inch of his life and put

719
00:49:09,119 --> 00:49:17,000
him in a swing full blast and
turn on a blow dryer. Yeah you

720
00:49:17,079 --> 00:49:22,360
know you can buy those these days. It wasn't loud enough. I swear

721
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:25,480
to got. It had to be
so extreme for that kid to like shut

722
00:49:25,559 --> 00:49:31,239
down. Give me hope, guys. So now obviously you have teenagers you

723
00:49:31,679 --> 00:49:37,599
did in college insane? Yeah,
yeah, my twins are fifteen and they'll

724
00:49:37,639 --> 00:49:42,599
they'll be sixteen in November. We
don't, don't you think? I think

725
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:47,199
every age is more fun like I
keep thinking I'm at my favorite age,

726
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:51,480
and then the next year is better. I think it just gets better.

727
00:49:52,039 --> 00:49:55,039
Even though Elliott is a tornado,
it still cracks me up. She's three

728
00:49:55,079 --> 00:49:58,320
and a half and it's just kind
of fun. Like I got on a

729
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:00,480
FaceTime with her today and she goes
Addy's on the phone and she goes no,

730
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:04,480
like a movie and just walked out
of the frame. It's like,

731
00:50:04,559 --> 00:50:09,320
hey, hey, three, three, and four I think are tough ages.

732
00:50:09,519 --> 00:50:15,280
You do, okay? I think
five. I thought five was like

733
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:20,159
that the Wizard of Oz, like
it goes from black and white to color.

734
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:22,599
I was like, oh, this
is why people have kids. Like

735
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:28,119
five felt like Elbie was like a
kid, like and I had, you

736
00:50:28,199 --> 00:50:30,960
know. And of course when she
was three, I had two more babies,

737
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:34,519
so it was it was extra hard. So I didn't enjoy it that

738
00:50:34,679 --> 00:50:37,880
much because it was just like very
stressful and overwhelming. But I just remember

739
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:42,079
her being five and being like,
oh my god, she's so fun,

740
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:47,400
Like she has conversation, has actual
conversations. She's like makes little jokes like

741
00:50:47,639 --> 00:50:52,360
she you can reason with her,
Like I like that. Now I've been

742
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:54,679
listening to you for eight years,
so obviously there's also the ups and downs

743
00:50:54,760 --> 00:51:00,559
of like the emotions and the yeah
yeah, well, I think it's it's

744
00:51:00,599 --> 00:51:05,639
just a lot different having teenagers.
I mean, like I miss even though

745
00:51:05,679 --> 00:51:08,880
I complained about it NonStop. I
miss like the you know, six,

746
00:51:09,079 --> 00:51:13,920
seven, eight, nine, ten, Like I like it was like so

747
00:51:14,079 --> 00:51:17,199
much fun. I mean, I
Halloween was a big deal and all the

748
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:22,239
things like that's just not a thing. Like they're so independent. Has your

749
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:24,760
schedule change as far as how your
life is? Like right now, everything

750
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:29,079
on the weekend is about the kids
and just making sure they have fun and

751
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:31,840
whatever. And then obviously during the
week it's if there's not a nanny there,

752
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:35,920
you're doing something for the kids.
Right now, Have you had to

753
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:39,039
restructure your life because I assume,
you know, I forget my kids are

754
00:51:39,079 --> 00:51:44,280
there. Like It'll be a Saturday
and it'll be noon and I will have

755
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:45,840
done like a bunch of stuff and
on the computer, and then I'll be

756
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:52,840
like, what are they even awake? And I'll go, John, are

757
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:55,119
they have you seen either of our
kids yet? Because Elby will be out

758
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:59,000
like she's at work, Like she'll
get up before we do and go to

759
00:51:59,039 --> 00:52:01,639
work and be gone for nine hours
and then yeah, and then come home

760
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:06,840
and have plans like all we know
is life three sixty tells me I'll be

761
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:08,519
arrived at home, I'll be left
home, I'll be arrived at home,

762
00:52:09,039 --> 00:52:12,880
and I'm like, I don't know, and yeah, and then Sadie and

763
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:15,159
Xander are busy. I mean,
we do have to drive them more places

764
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:20,559
now. They've gotten more social this
year, So that's what I'm happy about

765
00:52:20,599 --> 00:52:24,079
that because it's like they get to
a certain age and then you're not allowed

766
00:52:24,159 --> 00:52:28,960
to entertain them anymore because they don't
really want to be with you doing stuff.

767
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:30,079
They want to be with their friends. But then if they don't have

768
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:34,320
friends and stuff to do, then
they're sad. Right. So when we

769
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:37,199
were also just talking about the driving
thing, you know, that's when you

770
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:43,159
talk to your kids when they're teenagers. So you kind of miss when they

771
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:45,960
start driving, you know, not
getting to be with them in the car.

772
00:52:45,599 --> 00:52:51,840
So like, I just had a
going to the mall with Xander and

773
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:53,960
we have like such a fun time, like, and he was trying on

774
00:52:54,639 --> 00:52:58,960
dress clothes and it was like a
couple of hours of you know, he

775
00:52:59,119 --> 00:53:01,280
was kind of frustrating with how stuff
was fitting, and I was like,

776
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:05,920
I related to being that age,
you know, just the a little awkward

777
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:07,840
age, and you know, it
was like super fun and he makes me

778
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:12,039
laugh and I was like, this
is nice. We should do this some

779
00:53:12,159 --> 00:53:15,400
other time, you know, and
miss it. That's what I'm looking forward

780
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:17,679
to. I'm having I'm with you
guys. I'm having fun with all the

781
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:22,480
stages. I think it's going to
get start getting really really fun with Ellie

782
00:53:22,559 --> 00:53:25,920
because she's insane, and then the
boy's gonna be mellow hopefully. Yes.

783
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:30,199
And now I feel like, you
know, I'm an old dad and I

784
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:31,760
have I told Sriago, we gotta
stay healthy because it's just you and me.

785
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:37,280
We gotta stay healthy for these kids. You know that's so hard.

786
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:40,840
What do you mean just knowing that
it's just just yeah, like that's how

787
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:44,679
John and I feel. I mean, John's parents have both passed. I

788
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:47,079
have my brother and sister in law. But you know, I mean,

789
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:52,519
that's it. So like we still
have a piece of paper of God forbid,

790
00:53:52,639 --> 00:53:57,079
something happened to us. Where would
the kids go? Think about that?

791
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:00,000
Where were they going? And you
filled it out? Yeah, it's

792
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:05,159
it's as a friend of mine that
I've known for twenty two years, him

793
00:54:05,159 --> 00:54:07,400
and his wife. They live one
block away from here, and yeah,

794
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:10,480
we put them and as the guardians, we we don't let them know that

795
00:54:10,519 --> 00:54:15,280
we have huge life insurance policies because
they might have us murdered. But yeah,

796
00:54:15,599 --> 00:54:19,760
that's yeah, because I was the
guardian for one of my best friends

797
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:22,920
kids on her but you know,
they're twenty six and thirty now, so

798
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:30,000
it was our best choice to look
out for the kids. Yeah. Yeah,

799
00:54:30,079 --> 00:54:32,599
Well, on that note, this
has been so lovely Patrick. We

800
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:37,119
loved having you. You were going
to maybe bring Scherie, but yeah,

801
00:54:37,159 --> 00:54:38,079
she was laying in there. She
offered to come out, and I was

802
00:54:38,159 --> 00:54:40,519
just like, oh, let's feel
it out. If I if we start

803
00:54:40,599 --> 00:54:43,960
talking a lot about the babies and
stuff, well I'll just text it.

804
00:54:44,039 --> 00:54:45,519
She was willing to come out.
I wanted to talk about some documentaries,

805
00:54:45,599 --> 00:54:47,920
but I guess I'll have to come
on another time. We'll do it again.

806
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:51,880
We'll do a crossover. We'll do
an extra episode that you can put

807
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:55,000
on bad TV and we'll put our
Yeah sounds great. One question, betrayal.

808
00:54:55,360 --> 00:55:00,400
Did we ever talk to his first
wife? Because I want to stand

809
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:02,280
what the fuck was going on?
I'm in the middle of it right now,

810
00:55:02,679 --> 00:55:07,679
okay, it's like the child Porn
one two season one. They did

811
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:14,840
the documentary on Hulu. This scumbag
who well, the first episode really wrap

812
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:17,079
us up in a minute, is
called fairy Tale. It was a love

813
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:22,760
like two kids loved each other in
high school or college. They break up,

814
00:55:22,119 --> 00:55:25,760
they find each other twenty some odd
years later. The woman is a

815
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:29,840
successful TV producer out here. He
stayed kind of close to a hometown.

816
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:34,320
He's now divorced, and they get
this whirlwind back together and it's this.

817
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:37,039
It's there should be a movie made
about them finding each other. That's part

818
00:55:37,159 --> 00:55:43,000
one. Part two is what this
scumbag's up to? Oh no, I

819
00:55:43,079 --> 00:55:45,400
set that up right. He's like
basically living a double life. I mean

820
00:55:45,519 --> 00:55:51,639
he is a teacher and this it's
on Hulu. It's tough. Yeah,

821
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:57,079
he's sleeping with one of his students, a teenager six like a sixth student.

822
00:55:57,519 --> 00:56:01,280
He was a telemarketer for set as
well. He's got feelers out there

823
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:07,199
constantly. Former sea and a teacher, so he'd reach out to students.

824
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:09,039
Nice teacher, Yeah, he was
voted teacher of the Year two times in

825
00:56:09,079 --> 00:56:14,639
a year. Meanwhile, he also
owns with his wife a wine bar in

826
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:19,079
town. He's having sex with everybody
at the wine. Anyway, all we'll

827
00:56:19,079 --> 00:56:22,440
talk about that. I just it's
a crazy doc. It's hard to recommend

828
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:30,000
like such disturbing contact. Good Okay, anyway, yes, we'll get we'll

829
00:56:30,039 --> 00:56:31,440
do that for bad TV crossover.
Oh yeah, so can we plug my

830
00:56:31,639 --> 00:56:35,679
podcast? Of course? Okay,
I don't know if we need unless you're

831
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:38,960
a diehard Belowdeck fan. Kalin produces
that show. It's another Belowdeck podcast.

832
00:56:39,079 --> 00:56:45,199
We talk exclusively or about Belowdeck.
I would like to point out also that

833
00:56:45,559 --> 00:56:50,239
it's like the Belowdeck Recap podcast.
Like all of the cast members of Below

834
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:53,719
Deck listen to their show and oh
yeah, they reach out for interviews like,

835
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:58,360
oh yeah, they're the Belowdeck Recap. I don't even watch Belowdeck,

836
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:00,840
and I listen to your poda really
if it's hilarious. I was a huge

837
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:06,760
fan of it even before they hired
me. Oh yeah, where do I

838
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:10,000
start? Just they start a new
season in like three weeks with the and

839
00:57:10,119 --> 00:57:15,800
we actually have the main chief stew
We interviewed him about three weeks ago.

840
00:57:15,079 --> 00:57:20,199
He lays down so much tea on
that show that he will get in trouble.

841
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:22,599
We had to edit it down but
we still left. Uh. He

842
00:57:22,719 --> 00:57:27,719
talks major shit about the cast.
It's amazing. But if you want to

843
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:30,039
hear us, just talk about reality
TV in general, like ninety Day Fiance

844
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:36,280
or Love is Blind. That's bad
TV podcast and my host Dylani's super funny

845
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:39,119
and Klin produces it. Yeah,
all right, cool. Do you have

846
00:57:39,239 --> 00:57:42,920
an Instagram you want to plug?
I think it's just what is inst what's

847
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:45,239
the instagram? Another below deck podcast? Yeah, okay, I don't care

848
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:49,280
about in all right? Cool?
All right, thanks Patrick, We love

849
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:52,719
you, Thanks for having us.
I love you guys. Okay, hey,