1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,280 Without further ado, let me bring these mics up and uh, we've got 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:08,000 Stepsis in the house. Everything sounds so good. I don't I don't know 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,439 if are you using the headphones? Are you using the headphones? What's up? 4 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:16,480 Guys? Hi? Well, if you don't use the headphones and somebody 5 00:00:16,519 --> 00:00:23,280 calls in, oh that's okay, you will have to try to suck it 6 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:28,719 out of the microphone into your brain and I'll have to use my new England 7 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:33,920 telepathy. Yes, I didn't know that was the thing, that's where it. 8 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:41,960 Yeah, yeah, you oled by so so so everyone, I'll let 9 00:00:42,399 --> 00:00:46,960 I'll let you introduce ourselves. And because you're you're not only not only do 10 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:49,159 you have the band, but you've got some of us, You've got the 11 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:53,159 podcast and you always have a lot going on. Yeah, so this is 12 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:57,560 this is some of the band. It's just getting confusing. This is getting 13 00:00:57,759 --> 00:01:04,879 confusing because, uh, stage left is Lexi Swarm, Who's who's actually our 14 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:11,519 merch girl. So it's getting confusing because our merch girl also performs in the 15 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:15,840 band with us. I love that. I watched your videos for months. 16 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:22,040 Oh yeah, she's got music coming out with the band. Really that I 17 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:27,239 didn't realize very cool. Her and Melissa have a song coming out called Bathwater 18 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:36,799 Sounds exciting coming up. It's in the future. But but people have been 19 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:41,000 watching her develop her scream for for a couple of years now. She's been 20 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:44,239 developing. She has her own like scream thing going on. She can tell 21 00:01:44,239 --> 00:01:47,879 you about that later. But she's the merch girl and she does some screaming 22 00:01:49,319 --> 00:01:53,439 and percussion of sorts. She does, she's been doing all kinds of tell 23 00:01:53,519 --> 00:01:59,599 about that. And then there's then there's Zachie b who plays bass. I'd 24 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:02,560 like to say that he's new to the lineup, but nobody's new anymore. 25 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:09,280 There's no more new and the newness is gone. But uh, I tell 26 00:02:09,319 --> 00:02:15,080 you he has so many different departments and different roles here. Do you want 27 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:19,759 to introduce some of yourself, some of yourself, just some of myself that 28 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:27,039 I've already introduced LEXI so that I figured. Uh so, I'm Zackie B. 29 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:31,479 I played bass. I've been with Stepsis now for god like forever, 30 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:37,319 I know what seven months? Yeah, kid, Yeah, we can't let 31 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:40,879 him go. No, you guys, that's not a pun letting go, 32 00:02:42,759 --> 00:02:45,840 that's not a pun. Zach's in other bab Zachly has been like fifteen other 33 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:50,879 bands. Really everybody. Everywhere I go will be somewhere in line and people 34 00:02:50,879 --> 00:02:53,280 will go and I'll think they noticed him because of Stepsis, you know. 35 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:57,560 Yeah, yeah, well, bass players are in high demand, right absolutely. 36 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:00,080 That's how I got into playing bass was because everybody wanted to play. 37 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:07,039 That's how we got into Yeah, that's by playing the bass well, very 38 00:03:07,039 --> 00:03:12,719 good. I worked out well as opposed to the viola. Yeah, although, 39 00:03:12,719 --> 00:03:14,879 but but that's I mean, that's kind of what the conversation is. 40 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,759 But he does so much more and I was I wasn't being starcastic. These 41 00:03:17,759 --> 00:03:21,680 guys do all kinds of other stuff. That's why I brought them. Yeah. 42 00:03:21,719 --> 00:03:23,960 Absolutely, I've been loving all the videos I've been seeing with you guys, 43 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:29,520 and the images and the pictures. Guys, you look, you look 44 00:03:29,759 --> 00:03:32,560 so awesome. You want to know why you really come together and it's like 45 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:37,199 really cool package. You see what she's doing. What was she doing? 46 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:42,879 Smiling? Yeah, we're happy. We're happy. We're a happy band again, 47 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:46,000 and we're we're a happy human beings. That's why. That's why she's 48 00:03:46,039 --> 00:03:49,919 She's also wearing a great shirt. By the way, very I know, 49 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:54,199 I wasn't sure where she got that. Yeah, not unable to visualize us 50 00:03:54,240 --> 00:04:00,719 on polcasts or Facebook or wherever. She's wearing a very sex seed man unleashed. 51 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:08,159 Nobody ever visualized is the people of ever we don't ever get visualized. 52 00:04:08,759 --> 00:04:13,400 But by the way, we could do that now. Rondo Faverro from California's 53 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:16,240 in the chat room, She says, I, so dig this spand right 54 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:24,079 before you introduced him, Isaac was in there going is that sepsis no way, 55 00:04:25,199 --> 00:04:28,399 yeah, some of us, but this is the this is so this. 56 00:04:28,519 --> 00:04:32,040 I brought the podcasters with me because nobody else in the band wakes up 57 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:38,759 until at least ten I'm not even sure how many band members do you think 58 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:46,959 are awake right now? None tell you. Our our drummer, our drummer, 59 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:50,399 Salvatore, Robert pan is awake right now. He's awake. Yes, 60 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:55,160 and all of the whole bands busted up. Lexi's got a broken toe, 61 00:04:55,319 --> 00:05:00,040 Robert's got a broken arm. Robert has been playing on the drums for the 62 00:05:00,079 --> 00:05:02,839 last two months, would have broken arm? Really, yes, So if 63 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,720 any of the any of the videos that you've seen, any of the live 64 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:09,319 stuff, that we would do it we just played Swarming Fast. Yeah, 65 00:05:09,319 --> 00:05:13,360 everything we're doing, he's been playing with his hand wrapped up, busted up, 66 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,399 broken up, And we're talking about different different departments and like all the 67 00:05:15,439 --> 00:05:18,759 different stuff we do here, and that's why it gets confusing at times. 68 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:24,040 So this is the podcast and Roberts the drummer, and he probably is up 69 00:05:24,079 --> 00:05:28,199 because he's going he's on his way to Brooklyn because he plays in the punk 70 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:31,680 band Rags the Stitches. Oh that's a cool name. Nice, But he's 71 00:05:31,759 --> 00:05:36,120 off to New York right now with his broken arm. He could go play 72 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:39,600 more rock and roll. Why does he do that? I mean, I 73 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,399 don't know, does it? I mean, does he does? He kind 74 00:05:42,399 --> 00:05:46,319 of do a Rick Allen thing where he doesn't really use that arm he uses. 75 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:50,560 He's been using the broken arm I assume as doctor disapproves. So this 76 00:05:50,639 --> 00:05:54,000 has been an ongoing thing in the company. We get there, we have 77 00:05:54,079 --> 00:05:57,399 we have meetings, you know, and we talk about his arm where we 78 00:05:57,439 --> 00:06:00,720 talk about everybody's limbs. It's not like what we do it in practice now, 79 00:06:00,759 --> 00:06:08,439 we just talk about body parts. So well, you can't play any 80 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:12,360 music without dependencies. You need to put up a fundraiser for to buy a 81 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:17,959 bubble wrap. Oh this fundraiser, that would be a good gimmick wrap absolutely 82 00:06:18,079 --> 00:06:24,639 tile and all we have I was an EMT. I could have been your 83 00:06:24,639 --> 00:06:28,160 own empty Well, I'll tell you there is a just an open position in 84 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:34,680 steps right now for security drivers in pain reducer. You know it's funny too, 85 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:40,519 like we need a chiropractor too, And this is why our budget, 86 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,680 this is why we was hard for us to play out because all the chiropractors 87 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:47,839 and bubble wrap. Well, you know you mentioned to your your drummer on 88 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:50,759 his way to play in another band. That's been a big subject on the 89 00:06:50,759 --> 00:06:54,879 show recently. It seems like every band we have on their their drummer is 90 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:58,720 in like multiple bands because there's just not enough drummers. Drummers aren't even higher 91 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:01,360 demand than bass players. Well that's that's why most bands have laptop on drums. 92 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:05,000 You see a lot of that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, They 93 00:07:05,079 --> 00:07:09,279 go, hey, this is Zach you be on base, this is Lexi 94 00:07:09,399 --> 00:07:15,040 on tambourine, and this is mac Book on the drum return copy paste. 95 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:20,959 No, wow, I don't that. I don't see that that often though. 96 00:07:21,319 --> 00:07:24,959 That's the thing, you don't see it right right, there's no people. 97 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:29,160 Normally you see somebody doing this, right, there's nobody doing it. 98 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:31,720 My theory about and Jenny's heard me say this a lot, My theory about 99 00:07:31,759 --> 00:07:34,040 that with the drummers is that you know, when you're growing up and you 100 00:07:34,079 --> 00:07:38,120 first get interested in playing a musical instrument, and you go to your parents 101 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:40,680 and you have to have the conversation, well, I want to play drums, 102 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:44,399 and that that's the one thing. That and maybe the tuba are the 103 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:46,959 two things that they're going to try to talk you out of, Like do 104 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:51,360 you want to make noise? No? Yeah, they're going to try to 105 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:55,199 talk you out of that one. So no, no, we can't go 106 00:07:55,279 --> 00:08:01,360 further into this conversation without going Yeah, sepsis Metal Band of the Year. 107 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:07,240 Yes, yes, I saw the most amazing images. I saw you guys 108 00:08:07,279 --> 00:08:09,720 holding the award and all the Oh. I was so happy for you guys. 109 00:08:09,759 --> 00:08:13,879 I was jumping through the screen. That was congratulations, hard one, 110 00:08:15,079 --> 00:08:22,519 hard work. I tried to I tried to capture the moment on my phone, 111 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:28,759 but I was so wound up. Yeah you know you couldn't. You 112 00:08:28,759 --> 00:08:33,159 know these phones now have image stability and artificial intelligence and all that. I 113 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:37,799 mean with all the lenses. I got like five lenses on this thing, 114 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:41,919 and I'm trying to capture the moment, you know, and I just noticed 115 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:46,559 I'm useless. I was you know, they did doing the names and everything, 116 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:50,159 and you know, everybody deserved to be there, you know, everybody 117 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:56,840 worked so hard to be there. Congratulations to all the nominees that we're there. 118 00:08:56,879 --> 00:09:01,679 But you know, anytime, we've never we've never won anything other than 119 00:09:01,919 --> 00:09:07,200 being Stepsis, you know, right, This is like you know for some 120 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:11,279 people, like some people have bands and it like their hobby their hobbyists. 121 00:09:11,799 --> 00:09:15,480 Yeah, yeah, yeah, that is all level. There's level. This 122 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:18,799 is our lively. This is our life though for us, you know what 123 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:20,919 I mean, Some people to it's a weekend thing, the thing they do 124 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:24,279 with your friends or whatever. This is this is me and Melissa's life right 125 00:09:24,399 --> 00:09:28,720 right, absolutely all day, every day, inside and out. I know, 126 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:37,120 because I am a swarmy absolutely share everything. I love following you guys. 127 00:09:37,159 --> 00:09:39,080 I love watching what you're doing. One of the things I love that 128 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:43,000 you bring to the table is you talk about the industry in ways that other 129 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,919 people don't hold that thought. Because I do. I do want to get 130 00:09:45,919 --> 00:09:48,519 into that. But we have a call ECG, is that you. Yeah, 131 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:52,679 it's welcome back out, welcome back everybody. Thank you. To talk 132 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:56,200 about a road trip to drummer there. It's funny if you guys ever made 133 00:09:56,200 --> 00:10:01,679 a road trip to play in Canada. That's why that's Ezg's standard question. 134 00:10:01,639 --> 00:10:05,799 Yes, so I have yeah, wow, hey, here you go, 135 00:10:05,919 --> 00:10:11,320 easy. I have a meeting this Monday about about a Canada trip. Two 136 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:16,720 shows. Excellent, excellent, Wow, that's great. To the rest of 137 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:18,480 the show. You guys have a great I appreciate you man, Thank you 138 00:10:18,519 --> 00:10:22,080 all right, EZG, thank you. Yes, Yes, love to get 139 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:26,879 to Canada because that's where my family's from. Oh, Canada. Yeah, 140 00:10:26,279 --> 00:10:33,519 we're very Canadian. I would like to go to Canada because we have a 141 00:10:33,519 --> 00:10:35,919 lot of fans there and I think if we went there and it was well 142 00:10:35,919 --> 00:10:41,919 planned, we would probably have a good turnout if everyone prepared. Yeah. 143 00:10:43,279 --> 00:10:46,080 Absolute, yeah, absolutely, no, absolutely, But yeah, Jenny mentioned 144 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:50,039 you know, you talk about the music industry and and and the uh it's 145 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:58,320 uh what is the name of the podcast? The confusion is expanding because I 146 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:03,720 feel like it changed in one right, Okay, so it didn't. I 147 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:07,279 love it. I feel like the name changed. No, okay, So 148 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:13,840 we have, so we have so Lexi has, uh bear with me. 149 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:18,639 Lexi has a podcast called the Metal Honeys Podcast. Okay, okay, and 150 00:11:18,639 --> 00:11:22,639 that and that's that's the one you do with Melissa, right, no, 151 00:11:22,639 --> 00:11:28,039 no, no, so so so so we have a whole network. So 152 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:31,000 we write there's a whole. So there's a whole, there's a high there 153 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:37,000 is there is and if I had to explain all the lore someday, they'd 154 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:41,519 be like a big family tree. But the the Metal Honey Pop The Metal 155 00:11:41,519 --> 00:11:46,720 Honeys Podcast is Lexi in her world of Honeys and they talk about the music 156 00:11:46,759 --> 00:11:52,360 industry on their own and it's and and that is like her generation and and 157 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:56,679 like a view from like I say, just because I'm feeling old, but 158 00:11:56,679 --> 00:12:01,799 but it's it's it's young people's perspective on rock and roll today, modern technology 159 00:12:03,639 --> 00:12:09,720 and entertainment industry as a whole. And then you have Swarm TV. And 160 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:15,480 Swarm TV is not a podcast, it's a live stream. So Melissa is 161 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:20,480 a streamer and streamers are a little bit different than podcasters. Podcasting is more 162 00:12:20,519 --> 00:12:26,639 like what we're doing here, I could do this. Live streaming is when 163 00:12:26,759 --> 00:12:30,000 you talk to the fans you kind of do a little bit of a hybrid 164 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:35,320 thing because you're reading on your live stream right now as well as broadcasting. 165 00:12:35,399 --> 00:12:39,440 I can't do it. I can't. I don't have the faculties. It's 166 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:43,759 tricky. It's tricky. So Melissa is great at it, and she does 167 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:50,919 twitch in live streaming and she the raids and the multi stream. I can't 168 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:54,399 like it. She does the multi so she can put her brain in several 169 00:12:54,440 --> 00:13:00,679 pieces of the rum and spread. It's a talent that when intend to have. 170 00:13:01,399 --> 00:13:03,879 I'm serious. And she wears many hats during this thing, and she 171 00:13:03,919 --> 00:13:09,600 can kind of bookmark and keep up the conversations whereas on the podcast, and 172 00:13:09,639 --> 00:13:13,759 that's why I brought these guys with me. The Honeycomb Hideout, Oh okay, 173 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:20,360 right, right, is every midweek. It's hump Day Wednesday, Let 174 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:26,320 me Wednesday. Let me So it's every Wednesday at seven pm and it's seven 175 00:13:26,399 --> 00:13:33,399 and nine and it's live. But it's not so much of a podcast as 176 00:13:33,399 --> 00:13:39,840 it is a show about a podcast. So it's really a live stream of 177 00:13:39,919 --> 00:13:45,799 US podcasting. Right, it's not really a podcast. It's not the podcast 178 00:13:45,799 --> 00:13:50,799 where you listen to it on Apple Music podcast or something. I kind of 179 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:54,639 see it as a round table and ask the person as the visitor coming in 180 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:58,240 to watch, I get a seat at the table. When I'm in your 181 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:01,159 stream and I can say something or whatever. If I'm on your YouTube, 182 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:03,840 or if I'm on your Facebook stream or what have you, I can say 183 00:14:03,879 --> 00:14:07,519 something. They pop up on the screen. You guys respond to it, 184 00:14:07,879 --> 00:14:09,879 and I love it. But it is more of a conversation that you are 185 00:14:09,879 --> 00:14:15,159 getting to participate in as the viewer. That's that's my take on the honeycomb. 186 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:20,879 Yes, that's very good. It's it's it's live, it's interactive, 187 00:14:20,279 --> 00:14:24,960 educational. Somebody could slip on a banana peel, somebody could say I mean, 188 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:30,039 I mean, and that's the excitement behind it. The other thing I 189 00:14:30,559 --> 00:14:35,559 want to point out, though it's not people might watch a twenty second reel 190 00:14:35,559 --> 00:14:41,320 of it and and go all these guys are like or educators or but it 191 00:14:41,879 --> 00:14:50,080 is it is perspective. It. I think a lot of people might imagine 192 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:58,679 us as coming on and presenting like facts or but it's more experience. It's 193 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:03,440 education through the experience in the point of view, through the conversational piece of 194 00:15:03,519 --> 00:15:07,840 the participants and the people on the table. Meaning I might say something. 195 00:15:09,039 --> 00:15:13,679 We might have a conversation about backtracks or something, and there could be several 196 00:15:13,799 --> 00:15:20,360 different frequencies and opinions about that. Where it's so there's not a band narrative, 197 00:15:20,879 --> 00:15:26,519 there's not an overall voice that speaks for the band or the podcast. 198 00:15:26,679 --> 00:15:31,039 Everybody kind of participates, and we salt and pepper to taste, you know, 199 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:33,080 and you know, and and everybody kind of just respects the space. 200 00:15:35,679 --> 00:15:39,159 But you know, it's it's it's not fact nor fiction. It's it's human 201 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:43,519 beings with a human take on it. And and every band is different, 202 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:50,159 in every entertainment department is different. We we we realize that for us, 203 00:15:50,279 --> 00:15:56,559 we're an independent band and we talk about a lot of topics from the perspective 204 00:15:56,559 --> 00:15:58,919 of independence. So if you're somebody that's in and we're saying it all the 205 00:15:58,879 --> 00:16:03,879 time, if you're somebody that's in pursuit of a music industry, then then 206 00:16:04,159 --> 00:16:10,080 we can be easily misunderstood in twenty seconds of film, right or twenty seconds 207 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:15,679 are real because where it's not fact based, it really is the experience of 208 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:22,120 the band that we're narrating. So if you're if you're a band and you're 209 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:27,519 coming on and you're looking for solutions. The honeycomb IIDO might not be the 210 00:16:27,639 --> 00:16:37,360 greatest conduit to the industry because independent musicians looking to keep their independence shouldn't go 211 00:16:37,399 --> 00:16:42,679 through the music industry. Expand on that if you will, that's there are 212 00:16:42,759 --> 00:16:51,840 no the tools are different, Matt. So like the tools that you need 213 00:16:51,879 --> 00:17:00,639 to hone and the acquisitional responsibilities and relationships that you would need as an independent 214 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:08,480 are useless in the music industry and vice versa. Like you wouldn't you wouldn't 215 00:17:08,559 --> 00:17:17,119 take on a path of investing yourself and putting yourself in the nucleus of the 216 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:22,559 industry in pursuit of Grammys and do the kind of stuff that we're doing. 217 00:17:22,079 --> 00:17:26,000 You wouldn't want to pursue. We've been on the charts before. You wouldn't 218 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:32,640 want to pursue charts because you're you're the time that you're doing to pursue a 219 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:37,839 professional music industry or the products or the acquisitional tools and features of a music 220 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:45,920 industry. You wouldn't be independent with the goal of getting into the music industry 221 00:17:45,039 --> 00:17:52,240 to then unlock your independence, right if you're If you're planning on being independent, 222 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:53,519 and you'll see this a lot of times people just say what are you 223 00:17:53,559 --> 00:17:56,119 doing? They say, well, we're independent. We say, well, 224 00:17:56,119 --> 00:18:00,119 why are you independent? Not what? Why? What are the goals behind 225 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:04,079 being an independent? Also, I can get into the music industry, then 226 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:07,519 then what you're gonna do when you get there, I'm gonna be independent. 227 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:11,559 So you're gonna work your way to get to all of these you know, 228 00:18:12,039 --> 00:18:15,759 rely, you're gonna because you're gonna have to rely on these relationships and tools. 229 00:18:17,519 --> 00:18:21,799 So you're gonna make You're gonna acquire independent tools. You're gonna acquire independent 230 00:18:21,839 --> 00:18:26,440 relationships, You're gonna build your resume in independence. You're gonna be able to 231 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:30,759 show your work in independence, and then you're gonna you guys gotta understand that 232 00:18:30,799 --> 00:18:36,720 the music industry is an industry that is designed for artists to need them. 233 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:41,079 Oh of course, So if you don't need that. So the issue is 234 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:44,599 if there's nothing that they can take away from you, if there's nothing that 235 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:47,960 they could give to you. We get left out a lot of times of 236 00:18:48,799 --> 00:18:52,200 the products and features of the music industry because they can't take them away. 237 00:18:52,319 --> 00:18:57,039 Mm hmm, yeah, I feel like we're not invited. We have seen 238 00:18:57,079 --> 00:19:03,519 examples of Taylor Swift sort of trying to when you when you mentioned unlocking your 239 00:19:03,559 --> 00:19:07,640 independence once you're in I mean, obviously, you know, who's more in 240 00:19:07,759 --> 00:19:10,720 the music industry than Taylor Swift, no one. But now she's trying to 241 00:19:11,559 --> 00:19:15,000 like like she uh, because she was upset about her catalog being bought out 242 00:19:15,039 --> 00:19:17,400 from her. I don't know all the intricacies of it, but yeah, 243 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:21,480 so she she went and re recorded everything and is and is re releasing it 244 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:25,640 separate from the previous deal that she was in because she's trying to reclaim her 245 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:29,119 independence. Or I'm reminded of what Prince did. You know, this goes 246 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:33,240 back to the what was that late nineties when he you know, when he 247 00:19:33,279 --> 00:19:36,000 decided he didn't want to be a part of the system anymore, or he 248 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:37,680 called it a matrix and he he said, you know, I don't want 249 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:41,119 to be with Warner Brothers anymore. Yes, we've done this all before. 250 00:19:41,319 --> 00:19:44,720 Yeah, yeah, just gotten Yeah. Yeah. So you do see you 251 00:19:44,759 --> 00:19:48,160 see examples of of people trying to kind of who are who are? So 252 00:19:49,279 --> 00:19:52,799 it seems to be the ones who are in deepest in the in the music 253 00:19:53,440 --> 00:20:00,400 perfect for example. Yeah, we go on on the part of the podcast, 254 00:20:00,519 --> 00:20:04,400 is you know us making fun of ourselves, Matt. A lot of 255 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:07,880 times that people go, yeah, you know, how do you know, 256 00:20:07,319 --> 00:20:11,400 how are you able to talk about this? What qualifies you guys to talk 257 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:15,960 about how silly it is to get a record deal? Well, it's because 258 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:18,839 we had a record deal. Well, how can we talk about pay to 259 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:22,319 play because we've done it? Yeah, how can we tell about how can 260 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:25,319 we talk about being scammed? I mean, it's one thing to be an 261 00:20:25,319 --> 00:20:27,240 alcoholic and go to school for it. You don't need mean to talk about 262 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:30,319 alcoholism and read it out of a book, you know. But it's another 263 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:36,160 thing to or read about homelessness or go to school for homelessness. But it's 264 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:40,799 another thing to live on the street. Uh So, in terms of education 265 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:44,960 and experience, what we talk about on the podcast isn't just some like uh 266 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:52,160 like narrow like one sided or one dimensional experience. A lot of what we 267 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:56,519 talk about on the podcast is because, you know, like like alcoholism, 268 00:20:56,599 --> 00:21:00,640 not only have we read books on it and studied it, live through it, 269 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:03,480 and we have family members and people that have been affected by it, 270 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:07,720 but we've also tasted alcohol, you know, not not just that we we've 271 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:11,599 we've we're reporting on pay to play, we're reporting on Spotify or reporting on 272 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:15,880 unfairness. Like Taylor Swift, your taste buds changed, you get hit. 273 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:22,079 I mean, people recruit people to fight wars before their brains developed, yes, 274 00:21:22,599 --> 00:21:26,119 And the same thing with the music industry. They they recruit. They 275 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:30,599 recruit before your brains developed, before you know how to use the tools, 276 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:34,559 before you know how to make use of the responsibilities. The most responsible people 277 00:21:34,599 --> 00:21:38,559 in the room mat get to make the rules, okay, and before they 278 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:44,759 before you learn, before you learn what the responsibilities are. They want to 279 00:21:44,759 --> 00:21:49,960 make sure that you've paid your dues, you know, and and then nobody 280 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:52,359 wants to talk about it, you know. So you know, you pay 281 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:56,480 your dues, and then you're not popular if you talk about it, because 282 00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:03,319 in the industry it's not popular talk about unfairness. True, So Taylor's Taylor's 283 00:22:03,519 --> 00:22:07,599 grown up. Taylor Swift has grown up and Pili Sepsis, you know, 284 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:11,559 you get in you start this stuff, you get into music. And for 285 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:15,720 a lot of us, we all got into music in a time where we 286 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:22,240 were shaping our identities, okay, when we were kids. So for a 287 00:22:22,279 --> 00:22:25,960 lot of us, we got into this in a time when we were trying 288 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:30,240 to shape who we were and who we are, right, and that changes 289 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,160 as your brain develops, of course. Yeah, I mean the human brain 290 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:37,640 really until you're you're twenty five, it hasn't really fully developed that sometimes into 291 00:22:37,799 --> 00:22:41,960 sometimes into for late bloomers, into your thirties. Sure. So, clinically 292 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:51,000 speaking, biologically speaking, like human beings, we stay kids longer than other 293 00:22:51,039 --> 00:22:56,759 creatures. You know, kittens and grasshoppers don't stay. They don't they don't 294 00:22:56,759 --> 00:23:00,200 remain in near youth, you know, as long as human beings. Yeah, 295 00:23:00,279 --> 00:23:06,240 so we're infactuated with our youth. Our creature is we're infatuated with, 296 00:23:06,799 --> 00:23:11,440 you know, immortality and living forever, and we're infatuated with with all, 297 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:18,440 you know, having all and subscribing to all and living forever and the fountain 298 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:23,000 of youth. So, believe me, the record companies, believe me, 299 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:27,559 the generals and the presidents, and the believe me. That's that's who the 300 00:23:27,599 --> 00:23:32,000 pushers find, right, you know, that's who the chicken hawks go after, 301 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:36,279 is the young and impressionable kids that want to be rock stars. And 302 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,200 by the time you're old enough to learn the game, they don't change the 303 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:44,400 technology on you. It's the full mats different. For as soon as you 304 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,519 learn radio, they change it to cassettes. Then you learn cassettes, then 305 00:23:47,599 --> 00:23:48,920 they tended it to CD, and then the CD. Then you rip it 306 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,759 all off the web. But when you were a kid, all you wanted 307 00:23:51,759 --> 00:23:55,599 to do is be on MTV. Is no MTV anymore? Yeah, there 308 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,559 hasn't been am TV for a long time. There hasn't been anything. No, 309 00:23:57,599 --> 00:24:02,440 but there hasn't been anything in my life. There hasn't been anything for 310 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:07,599 a long time. True that not even dinosaurs. They never came back. 311 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:11,200 That's true. Things come and they go. And that same thing with NP 312 00:24:11,279 --> 00:24:15,759 three, same thing with Blue Blue Tooth, Blu Ray laser discs. Everything 313 00:24:15,799 --> 00:24:19,960 will come and everything will go. Can you talk about some of the things, 314 00:24:21,079 --> 00:24:23,039 I mean, William, you mentioned like some of the things you've been 315 00:24:23,039 --> 00:24:26,160 through like pay to play and a bad record deal and all that. I 316 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:27,079 mean, can you expand on some of that? You know? And I'm 317 00:24:27,079 --> 00:24:32,319 a music industry nerd, so this is I mean, particularly band past the 318 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:37,119 time you're scheduled here. But these guys might expand a little bit. I'll 319 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:40,839 never stop expanding. That's kind of my bad ass was right on that same 320 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:44,880 alliance what's the most frequent thing that you see with younger bands getting pulled into 321 00:24:45,279 --> 00:24:48,000 or is it the pay to play? What is the one you see the 322 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:52,960 most frequently that you think being being told they have to sell tickets to be 323 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:56,920 on the bill, Like you have to sell the minimum fifty tickets, and 324 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,799 each ticket is like twenty five bucks, and if you don't sell all of 325 00:24:59,799 --> 00:25:02,519 them, we kick you off. That's the popularm and you guys, and 326 00:25:02,559 --> 00:25:06,039 the band takes nothing, nothing, they're not even allowed to perform. Yeah, 327 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:07,960 many times, many times those bands don't get paid. That's just for 328 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:12,039 the like opening slot on the parking lot stage outside the venue. A lot 329 00:25:12,079 --> 00:25:15,759 of times we find this is gonna bother a lot of people. A lot 330 00:25:15,799 --> 00:25:21,079 of times we find that we're the only band it's getting paid. Yeah, 331 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:25,240 did you experience it yourself when you were first starting? Where did you end 332 00:25:25,319 --> 00:25:27,680 up doing this? You know, I'll tell you the ticket sales I I 333 00:25:27,799 --> 00:25:32,680 play. Oh yeah, and we did a lot of our our me and 334 00:25:32,759 --> 00:25:37,119 Melissa did in the beginning. We did a lot of paying our dues. 335 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:41,359 But I need to make it clear that oh man, I'm foot in mouth 336 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:47,119 here, but you know, we're really we've been really lucky people. We've 337 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,440 been really taking care of We've been we're really privileged, like privileged band. 338 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:53,079 A lot of people come, a lot of people go with us, but 339 00:25:53,519 --> 00:25:56,359 like me and Melissa, we've been doing this since twenty ten. We've been 340 00:25:56,400 --> 00:26:04,880 really we've been really lucky and really blessed to have had people on our side 341 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,680 and kind of guiding us along the way. And you know, we've we've 342 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:14,000 made a whole lot of mistakes, but uh, you know that's part, 343 00:26:14,079 --> 00:26:18,079 that's part of the ride. But yeah, yeah, but I just want 344 00:26:18,079 --> 00:26:22,119 to say, like, yes, we've paid our dues, but we haven't 345 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:26,759 been held hostage to it because we're not stupid, and we know what what 346 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:33,400 unfair looks like. And me and Melissa a big feature of this band being 347 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:37,400 in it was standing up for ourselves. You know. So we also come 348 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:38,880 from the street, you know what I mean. We're not We're not a 349 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:45,920 little privileged band that comes from you know, a garage that's all decked out 350 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,880 with Mommy bought you and amplify you. You know what I'm saying. Me 351 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:53,599 and Melissa don't come from that. Ye Stepsis doesn't come from that. Oh 352 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:59,440 I respect you know what I mean so like, so for us, you 353 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:03,039 know, we're not not making music for riches or fame, and a lot 354 00:27:03,079 --> 00:27:06,359 of these kids they're in it for the wrong reasons. So that's why they're 355 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,759 easy to take. So that's why the Chicken Hawks, it's easy to drop 356 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,759 drop a line in the pond. So but for us, you know, 357 00:27:14,079 --> 00:27:17,759 we come from court backgrounds, law backgrounds, you know, over the street, 358 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:22,559 prison jail. I was in boys homes and juvenile halls growing up, 359 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:29,079 you know, I was. I'm I'm also adopted. I didn't. I 360 00:27:29,079 --> 00:27:30,559 didn't grow up with any family. Uh, So I grew up in the 361 00:27:30,599 --> 00:27:34,240 family court system. So I had lawyers my whole life. I was also 362 00:27:34,279 --> 00:27:38,519 a childhood rapper, a DJ. All this is so I had managers growing 363 00:27:38,599 --> 00:27:41,880 up, I was, I had. I had pressed background interest, some 364 00:27:42,039 --> 00:27:47,400 broadcasting background, yeah, I got some of my first I have my broadcasting 365 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:51,519 background at w h e B. I lived in Portsmouth, me being a 366 00:27:51,559 --> 00:27:56,519 Portsmouth resident, street performer, dancer, the theaters, repertory theaters. So 367 00:27:56,559 --> 00:27:59,680 I grew up in the environment. So I was like, you grew up 368 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:03,720 in the voyument, you know, you know, you know about manages, 369 00:28:03,839 --> 00:28:06,640 you know, especially during the eighties and nineties. It was real sleazy, 370 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:07,960 you know what I'm saying. Everybody had the kids on the take, and 371 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,359 that's that's who the talent scouts were after, was the kids. So I 372 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:15,720 was I was posed. I was in modeling agencies as a kid. I 373 00:28:15,759 --> 00:28:18,519 did a lot of perform and I used to perform for pro Portsmith. I 374 00:28:18,559 --> 00:28:22,680 was in the newspaper all the time, Market Square Day. So we were 375 00:28:22,759 --> 00:28:26,759 hip to you know it really by the way, Legion of Solace is in 376 00:28:26,799 --> 00:28:30,200 the chat and says we are we are proud to call ourselves partner and affiliate 377 00:28:30,279 --> 00:28:36,160 with the Sepsist family for the last two or three years now, very nice. 378 00:28:36,519 --> 00:28:38,920 How many years we've been around. I love when our partners can't tell 379 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,680 how many years they've been around, because it feels like they're just partnering, 380 00:28:41,799 --> 00:28:45,880 right, perpetual you know what you said. I don't know, like in 381 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:52,400 the record industry they have this little box that says perpetual. Yeah, right, 382 00:28:52,119 --> 00:28:59,559 So everybody, you know, Swarmyfest was an absolute success. No, 383 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:00,519 I know, I know, and I'm not going to twist a knife, 384 00:29:00,599 --> 00:29:03,400 I really not. But everybody, I'll have you know, everybody looked for 385 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:07,119 you guys though, really yeah, they did. Yeah, but that should 386 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:08,799 make you feel good though, Well, there's nothing you could have done. 387 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,920 We'll be at the next one period. I assume it's going to be annual. 388 00:29:12,119 --> 00:29:15,079 Oh yeah, no, so so swarm me. That's three. It's 389 00:29:15,119 --> 00:29:19,599 November. Excellent, you've already got that locked down at Jewel. Yeah, 390 00:29:19,599 --> 00:29:22,400 it's that Jeweled November second next year. If you're a man, you want 391 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:30,319 to play excellent, excellent, Come on now, email Richie Downs a little 392 00:29:30,319 --> 00:29:37,240 little little New Hampshire Humor there. Email NH Booking if you like to play 393 00:29:37,279 --> 00:29:41,920 Swarmy Fest Excellent you want to? I know it is two stages, It's 394 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:45,720 great, Yeah, tell us about it. What was it like me? 395 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:51,240 How did it go? Okay? Well, I was nervous the whole time, 396 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,359 total of the honesty. Yeah, yeah, because I never did We 397 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,359 never did two stages at Jewel. I've played Jewel a bunch of times, 398 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:03,200 and what I was nervous about is the sound is so good on this on 399 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:07,799 the front stage. I didn't want anybody to have less. I was really 400 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:14,160 especially we had some really good bands in the other room, you know, 401 00:30:15,279 --> 00:30:23,279 and there wasn't anybody up there that wasn't absolutely qualified to play the main stage. 402 00:30:23,359 --> 00:30:26,920 You know what I mean, all those other bands were perfect for the 403 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:32,160 main stage. I don't like to even use that English, you know, 404 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:37,240 because that everybody, everybody was dressed great. To add it to I love. 405 00:30:37,279 --> 00:30:44,920 I love when a show comes together and everyone's participating. The I mean 406 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:48,839 when you talk about how do we how what's the blueprint or the template for 407 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:55,319 independence coming together and having a great show. This is it. Swarmy Fest 408 00:30:55,400 --> 00:31:03,000 is it. And the purpose of swarming Fest is to prove unequivocally that local 409 00:31:03,119 --> 00:31:08,279 talent can get together at high quality. There's no buyons, there's no pay 410 00:31:08,319 --> 00:31:15,680 to play, there's opportunity forever. People that stay to the end can get 411 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:22,680 some gas money. People that you're everyone's encouraged to participate. Of course, 412 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:27,559 Matt Connerton is involved opening the doors, letting all the bands come down here 413 00:31:27,559 --> 00:31:33,359 to get some press and some airtime, getting the vands in like that, 414 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:40,759 like a lineup like Solace coming and being a part of that. They made 415 00:31:41,119 --> 00:31:45,960 a huge weekend coming down supporting bands all the way up the coast, culminating 416 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:49,839 in Swarmy Fest, visiting with their partners, and it wound up being this 417 00:31:51,839 --> 00:31:57,839 huge frequency of people from all over the area. They're coming and sell, 418 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:05,240 you know, to celebrate traditional neighborhood you know, homegrown music. And there's 419 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:10,359 no there's no crazy egos, fist fights flying around, Nobody owes anybody money, 420 00:32:10,519 --> 00:32:16,039 there's no celebrities, there's no rock stars, there's no nobody's a headliner 421 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:22,279 or a co headliner. Nobody went over set times, nobody backed for encores, 422 00:32:22,559 --> 00:32:28,720 No nothing came up missing. This is what I love about fest. 423 00:32:28,799 --> 00:32:34,319 The quality, network is right and community bringing it all together. It was 424 00:32:34,319 --> 00:32:40,720 really strong. It was and the purpose to show that neighborhood bands are top 425 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:47,799 quality and they draw. Oh dude, sorry about the draw. I forgot 426 00:32:47,799 --> 00:32:52,680 about that. Sorry draw. I'm always saying the F word on the podcast. 427 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:54,559 Sorry about that? And they draw? Yeah, yeah, yeah, 428 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:58,920 they draw and that and that's that's the big purpose. We want to try 429 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,559 to teach every body as much as we possibly can. The bands that we're 430 00:33:01,599 --> 00:33:06,960 working with, we want to try to teach and encourage them to draw. 431 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,079 We have a call. This is Malcolm from Leads in the Solid. Hey, 432 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:15,240 welcome Malcolm, how you doing. Welcome to the show. Well, 433 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:20,960 thank you for having me. I just wanted to call in and say I 434 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,599 had an amazing time from my first trip from Lynchburg, Virginia, all the 435 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:30,119 way up there steps and stood on performing fast a few My language was the 436 00:33:30,119 --> 00:33:35,400 best. Means uh And I want to say, Matt, it would have 437 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,920 been an honor to guy to meet you guys. But yeah, yeah, 438 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:44,079 I just wanted to call in and say thank you for doing what you're doing. 439 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,039 Also because it's amazing. I run a radio show. I know what 440 00:33:47,079 --> 00:33:52,000 you're doing, and it's amazing than loving. I love everything and all you 441 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,319 guys are doing. I'm glad to know every last one of you. Thank 442 00:33:54,359 --> 00:33:57,720 you, mal Thank you so much, Malcolm, Thank you very much. 443 00:33:58,079 --> 00:34:00,480 I love you very much. No pob guys, and you all keep it 444 00:34:00,559 --> 00:34:02,920 up, man, And I can't wait to see next year swarming Beast because 445 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:09,519 I already rid on my calendar. Yes, yes, that's so exciting. 446 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:15,360 That's awesome. I'm gonna get back to watching you guys. I just wanted 447 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,000 to call in real quick. I really appreciate it. Thank you for waking 448 00:34:17,079 --> 00:34:22,280 up in the morning, all right, Thank you so much for the call. 449 00:34:22,639 --> 00:34:27,559 Thank you to anybody that woke up this morning. By bye, it's 450 00:34:27,559 --> 00:34:30,079 a question for everybody's favorite March Girl did you sell out of the Swarmy Fest 451 00:34:30,119 --> 00:34:35,039 T shirts? I was so close. You still have some? I still 452 00:34:35,079 --> 00:34:39,119 have a couple. Oh we need to talk. Yeah, we could hook 453 00:34:39,159 --> 00:34:43,679 you up for sure. I don't. I can't believe I missed that. 454 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:51,119 But like Malcolm said something that was so important. It's like we were talking 455 00:34:51,159 --> 00:34:53,880 about like it's not about like what you earlier and like what what you're doing, 456 00:34:54,039 --> 00:34:58,360 Like okay, the what is like you're having the show and what the 457 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,039 bands are moving the gear back and forth and they're tuning the guitar strings, 458 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:09,519 but like why and it like Malcolm really just pointed it out and your ability 459 00:35:09,639 --> 00:35:15,239 to you know, slash and zap swear words. I don't know if anybody 460 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:22,599 got this, but the friendship man, the friendship, the humanity, you 461 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:29,239 know, Uh, there's no hocus pocus. This was a magical moment of 462 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:34,320 communities and people from all over the region, all over the country coming together. 463 00:35:34,519 --> 00:35:37,360 I mean we got people who bust in and people that flew in, 464 00:35:37,559 --> 00:35:40,519 wives, girlfriends, I mean families. This is a family affair. It's 465 00:35:40,519 --> 00:35:46,800 a family event and it's and it there's no big math, there's no arithmetic. 466 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:52,119 It's people that that love home, grown rock and roll. It proves 467 00:35:52,199 --> 00:36:00,119 that people love drums and guitars and screaming and dancing and uh, it's that 468 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:04,199 simple. You know, it's that simple. There's no rule in the world, 469 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,519 there's no It's something that we've always loved to do. You know, 470 00:36:07,679 --> 00:36:10,800 we're proven that people still love to do it. Who was the furthest Away 471 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:15,079 band who came and played? Who do you do you know a fan who 472 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:21,800 like, I'm curious, who was our guitar player so hot sauce our guitar 473 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:27,280 player? She she drives, she's up there. Yeah, she's way up 474 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:31,760 there. But I think she's up there with Dark Rain. Dark Rain is 475 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:39,079 up there. I think they came from the ye. What does she say? 476 00:36:40,079 --> 00:36:49,840 Which I didn't know there was I didn't either. Is that a band? 477 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:57,480 That's a band to trot? Which? Which trot them? On the 478 00:36:57,519 --> 00:37:04,119 show? I told you I know all the bands. No, we play, 479 00:37:04,679 --> 00:37:08,679 we've seen them play. I think at the Hill Charlie Hill is that's 480 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:12,440 right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, they're really good. 481 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,320 Salvatore is in the chat room, by the way, he says, 482 00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:19,840 I am there in spirit. No, he's right now. He's loading in 483 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:24,760 his drum kit. In Brooklyn. That's what he's with his broken arm to 484 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:30,159 meet this guy. Yeah, really, you've never met Sal. I don't 485 00:37:30,159 --> 00:37:32,159 think i've ever met in person. I don't think we have. Okay, 486 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:39,000 so me and are both libras. But he's definitely more balanced. This guy 487 00:37:39,199 --> 00:37:44,199 is Sal is the most balanced guy in the band. He's got to be 488 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,519 drummer. He's so chill. Him and Melissa, I think in the most 489 00:37:46,599 --> 00:37:51,360 chilli. Really, yeah, because we need them the most. Of course, 490 00:37:52,199 --> 00:37:54,119 Malcolm Wood in the chat says almost had our car towed away for this. 491 00:37:55,679 --> 00:38:01,920 I forgot about. I don't know about that. It is quite that. 492 00:38:04,159 --> 00:38:07,960 It was quite the theater, you know. Of course, everybody's pulling 493 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:12,599 in and and there was no places to park. And if these guys are 494 00:38:12,679 --> 00:38:15,639 partners though, and we always park in the same place, and we get 495 00:38:15,679 --> 00:38:20,599 out there and there's just I mean, there's a circle, there's a kerfuffle. 496 00:38:23,079 --> 00:38:28,239 There was a kerfuffle and not and not. You know, it's Manchester, 497 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:32,400 so I'm used to kerfuffles, but I'm not. I was very disappointed 498 00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:37,320 to see that. It was the it was the solace, It was everybody 499 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:43,760 for and me just auto pilot, you know, there's no way to park. 500 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:49,280 People say, where you park in Manchester? Nowhere right, Well, 501 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:54,360 it's weird usually like there's a lot of lots nearby, but the lot directly 502 00:38:54,480 --> 00:39:00,039 next door to Jewel is like super uptight. So like they have like I 503 00:39:00,119 --> 00:39:05,039 think around. I think it's how they their money. Is they sitting near 504 00:39:05,159 --> 00:39:07,559 Jewel? Oh yeah, oh yeah, doubt. And it's such a fine 505 00:39:07,599 --> 00:39:12,840 line between where the Jewel parking lot is and where the neighbors parking lot is. 506 00:39:13,519 --> 00:39:16,400 So they parked in that one spot that happened to be on the other 507 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:22,119 person's And to these two tow truck drivers get out, I think they had 508 00:39:22,159 --> 00:39:27,360 a total of three teeth. They get out, and they had this they 509 00:39:27,519 --> 00:39:30,440 had this car on. I mean they had it loaded up faster than you 510 00:39:30,519 --> 00:39:36,000 could say black light invasion. I mean this thing was oh my god, 511 00:39:36,159 --> 00:39:38,159 it was. Yeah, it was a standoff out there. It was the 512 00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:43,760 Legion versus the tow truck people. Really, and then I already told you 513 00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:45,679 the tow truck people only have three more teeth. They had no more teeth 514 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:52,400 to lose. And if they were outnumbered, and the guy is crazy, 515 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:55,920 it might have been ninety pounds and he's screaming and yelling, banging on his 516 00:39:57,079 --> 00:40:00,480 chest, and I was like, can we please de escalate? Oh wow, 517 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:04,960 can we please de escalate? Because usually once once they've got your car 518 00:40:05,039 --> 00:40:07,119 hooked up, that's it, like you got to yeah, oh no. 519 00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:12,480 They charged a fee to drop it. I think it was like two money. 520 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:19,880 Yeah, maybe next to your like one of those police tape things, 521 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,920 not police tape, but you know, tape don't pass here. Well, 522 00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:24,679 we thought, yeah we had tases and pepis right, we thought, but 523 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:29,239 that they already had. But they already had the once they got it done, 524 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:31,159 yeah, Malcolm says in the chat we paid one hundred and seventy five. 525 00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:39,519 Ye and this guy's this guy's like yelling and Malcolm is this huge guy, 526 00:40:40,199 --> 00:40:44,119 and this tiny little guy's yelling at Malcolm. I'm going this is not 527 00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,880 good for the little guy. Malcolm is this big guy, you know, 528 00:40:49,159 --> 00:40:52,519 and there's this little guy with the tow trock. But the problem is the 529 00:40:52,639 --> 00:40:57,079 little guy has all he got the car, he's got the car hooked up, 530 00:40:57,079 --> 00:41:00,039 he's got the power, right yeap. Wonderful. This must be like 531 00:41:00,079 --> 00:41:05,840 a trained operation because if they had it up as quickly as this is a 532 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:12,960 trap these guys with secret cameras. What Yeah, I think that. Yeah, 533 00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,760 I think they had drones out there waiting for us to park, of 534 00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:21,480 cameras watching watching people pack. No packing sign right there, no packing and 535 00:41:21,679 --> 00:41:25,400 the tow truck drivers. Okay, so we were talking out before you know 536 00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:30,760 it. We were talking earlier about the music industry and about the podcast and 537 00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:36,679 how we're always reporting about gatekeepers and it's the same thing with whiffleball bats and 538 00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:40,679 shoehorns and parking. It's every industry that you can find. People think we're 539 00:41:40,679 --> 00:41:43,679 always talking about the music industry. No, no, no, no, 540 00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:45,679 no, no, we're talking about life. Yeah, when we're the stuff 541 00:41:45,679 --> 00:41:49,840 we're we're reporting on isn't really about paying your dues in the music industry. 542 00:41:50,199 --> 00:41:52,840 When we talk about scams and schemes in the music industry, anybody that watches 543 00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:57,559 our podcast to start thinking about the industry that they're currently working in. Sure, 544 00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,920 sure, right, the land escaping industry. So if you don't have 545 00:42:01,079 --> 00:42:05,679 to be a fan of rock and roll to like the hard rock and heavy 546 00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:09,360 metal reset, you don't have to be into sepsis to love the honeycomb hide 547 00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:14,159 out or to learn something about your own industry because what we're reporting about is 548 00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:20,559 happening in every industry, everywhere. Glowbal Yeah, he says in the chat. 549 00:42:20,639 --> 00:42:22,239 We had enough time to carry the T shirts inside, to set up 550 00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:25,440 our merch table, and run back out to stop our car from being stolen. 551 00:42:27,039 --> 00:42:30,559 Uh they didn't know. Uh, they didn't know that they was about 552 00:42:30,639 --> 00:42:36,119 to get a Lynchburg, Virginia butt kicking. Yeah. Like these guys in 553 00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,519 Virginia, they don't Carol's new tow trucks. Will they just back up to 554 00:42:38,559 --> 00:42:44,400 you. It's got that it was and it just whoop. So they don't 555 00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:46,039 have to do nothing. They can just I was speaking with the guys, 556 00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:52,320 you know, after we had had a version of de escalation, which is 557 00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:55,920 like not screaming, you know. I was pointing out, these guys are 558 00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:00,960 loading in for a job, Like it's not that they were parked. Yeah, 559 00:43:01,519 --> 00:43:06,119 we were getting the equipment out of the car. It wasn't like we 560 00:43:06,199 --> 00:43:09,760 were settled in and that. I mean, these guys drove up across country 561 00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:15,079 and pulled the T shirts out of the car, turned around and then had 562 00:43:15,159 --> 00:43:19,400 this surprise. I loved them guys, man, they did such a great 563 00:43:19,519 --> 00:43:22,440 job. Though they did like we had so much fun that we can, 564 00:43:22,639 --> 00:43:29,480 like I want to say, they really made it comfortable and fun to have, 565 00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:36,159 you know, out of state sponsors come. We don't usually have sponsors 566 00:43:36,639 --> 00:43:40,320 from out of state come. We usually just have people coming as like guests 567 00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:46,559 at that rate. But Bruce and everybody really like insisted and we had, 568 00:43:46,679 --> 00:43:49,599 I mean, we had. These guys were so great. They had a 569 00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:55,360 formal pre production meeting with us about coming down. I mean, if I 570 00:43:57,159 --> 00:44:04,960 if I could say anything, making friends and solidifying those relationships with those people 571 00:44:05,159 --> 00:44:09,760 was some of the most memorable moments of the weekend. It was awesome. 572 00:44:10,639 --> 00:44:15,599 No hocus pocus, it really was. It was magical despite it made all 573 00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:24,519 the things we can't control and made it really valuable because like when you have 574 00:44:24,599 --> 00:44:29,559 a big production like that and there's two stages and people coming in and you 575 00:44:29,679 --> 00:44:32,159 got friends and family and guests and you're hoping everybody doesn't get sick or call 576 00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:36,960 out or cancel. The only thing you could really do when it's go time. 577 00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,079 You know, you drove out there a thousand miles and you got all 578 00:44:40,119 --> 00:44:44,039 your gear out there, and you're in a different state. The only the 579 00:44:44,119 --> 00:44:47,840 only thing you truly have control over at any time is your attitude towards any 580 00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:52,000 circumstance. You know, the show's gone, the show must go on, 581 00:44:53,079 --> 00:44:57,400 just like you know, with the events and circumstances to happen with you guys, 582 00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:00,519 you know, and you know if you to have a terrible attitude about 583 00:45:00,519 --> 00:45:04,519 it, that had been the only thing you could control. Mm hm. 584 00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,159 You know, because things are going to happen in your life. There's gonna 585 00:45:07,159 --> 00:45:12,320 be things that pop up and events and circumstances that there's nothing you could physically 586 00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,639 put your hands on. And the only thing you're gonna be able to grasp 587 00:45:15,119 --> 00:45:20,519 or grip is your sense of your sense of self control and that and that's 588 00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,320 through the attitude that you're going to have a great attitude, a positive attitude 589 00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:27,760 about something, or you're gonna you know, you're going to have a bad 590 00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:31,039 attitude. You know, everyone's going to get a painful tooth, you're gonna 591 00:45:31,679 --> 00:45:36,480 gonna bump your toe, or you're gonna get a flat tire. But and 592 00:45:36,599 --> 00:45:38,559 you can't control all of that. You can't control when it's going to rain. 593 00:45:38,639 --> 00:45:44,840 You really can't control your you know, every record sale and everybody's worried 594 00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:50,480 about every every insight and metric and every follow and everywhere in that time in 595 00:45:50,599 --> 00:45:54,840 life where everyone's cutting every nucleus and examining it and measuring it and cutting that 596 00:45:55,119 --> 00:46:00,320 and then giving a name to it and a sub label and a category, 597 00:46:00,559 --> 00:46:06,840 and we're this is time when we're kind of like hyper focused on these micro 598 00:46:07,079 --> 00:46:13,800 transactions and everything, and it's just cool to zoom out every now and then 599 00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:15,079 and be like, you know what, I don't really control any of this 600 00:46:15,199 --> 00:46:19,719 stuff, but I'm just gonna have a good attitude about it. Yeah. 601 00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:22,719 By the way, Hans is in the chat room, Hans Smith, and 602 00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:27,480 uh, hello, and uh, I don't know. I don't know this 603 00:46:27,559 --> 00:46:30,440 person, but I love the name Gideon Eckhart. I love the name. 604 00:46:30,519 --> 00:46:37,960 Gideon says love to you all, Hello much love and what So what what 605 00:46:38,199 --> 00:46:40,880 is next for sepsis? What do you what do you have coming up? 606 00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:47,960 You're gonna give me an anxiety attack? I'm just kidding, kid. So 607 00:46:49,119 --> 00:46:52,840 no, I only say that rhetorically because I know everybody has anxiety and does 608 00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:54,519 all that we all do. But I say that like people say, oh, 609 00:46:54,639 --> 00:46:58,519 c D. People just use and they throw around these words, you 610 00:46:58,639 --> 00:47:01,400 know, like we like we're all doctors or something like we went to school 611 00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:08,719 show You're gonna give me heartburn saying I'm gonna start web MD and my blood 612 00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:14,840 pressure because we all have the ability to look up all these fancy words, 613 00:47:15,039 --> 00:47:17,199 we all forget that, like people go to school for this stuff, Like 614 00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:21,239 you can't just be a brain surgeon because you read a website. To be 615 00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,320 fair, I'm on medication for a lot of the stuff, like like that's 616 00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:27,119 a broadcaster. If you can't just wake up and have a Facebook page and 617 00:47:27,159 --> 00:47:30,639 say I'm a broadcaster and actually be a broadcaster. I'm tired of it. 618 00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:37,840 I was an so the medical jargon what's next for what's next for us? 619 00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:44,760 Lex just so much and and really, like I say, anxiety, but 620 00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:49,599 it is a good anxiety. I Like we started a conversation off with me 621 00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:57,440 saying how like how happy we are to be a band and a company and 622 00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:05,400 be working with people that are excited and it's great for me and Wmislim speaking 623 00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:10,000 for myself now, it's good for us to be working with people that are 624 00:48:10,119 --> 00:48:19,400 grateful and that are behaving consistently and sharing an energy with us to focus and 625 00:48:19,559 --> 00:48:23,239 prioritize our fans and our goals. Yeah, Okay, like we need to 626 00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:28,400 be like, we need to be comprehensive in tandem speaking the same language. 627 00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:30,280 And it's good to be working with an entire room of people that can kind 628 00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:32,679 of speak the same language, and we can all go, this is the 629 00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:36,159 band we're in, we're all going in this direction. We all want to 630 00:48:36,199 --> 00:48:38,280 record, we all want to go to Detroit or whatever we're going to do. 631 00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:43,599 We can talk about that. Now. We can share those ideas openly, 632 00:48:44,679 --> 00:48:47,119 we can all write them down, and everyone kind of respects each other's 633 00:48:47,119 --> 00:48:52,800 space, and we're all, you know, grateful and participating mutually for the 634 00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:58,039 investment of the goals of the band. That's comprehensive, you know that, 635 00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:02,519 it seems that's really what the band is at first, is like the actual 636 00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:09,760 physical and and intellectual reality that there actually is a band. So everyone around 637 00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:15,000 has got to be in the band and agree that they're actually in it to 638 00:49:15,159 --> 00:49:17,840 have it. Like that's the cool part about having a band, is actually 639 00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:23,559 having it, and we have it. But that's also one of the hardest 640 00:49:23,599 --> 00:49:25,960 parts, right, I mean, I just the hardest part of having a 641 00:49:27,039 --> 00:49:29,679 band is getting in, getting in the same room every week, right, 642 00:49:30,679 --> 00:49:32,440 because because if you can't get in the same room every week. Then you 643 00:49:32,519 --> 00:49:36,639 can't learn the tunes. If you can't learn the tunes and you don't learn 644 00:49:36,679 --> 00:49:38,440 them well enough, nobody can really see the true value of the tunes. 645 00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:43,760 No one can get the tunes good enough where they go, oh wow, 646 00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:46,519 this might actually work. And then no one can audition these tunes in front 647 00:49:46,559 --> 00:49:51,440 of people, And then no one can audition them to the point where they 648 00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:54,000 adjust them and get them good in front of people, where everybody can get 649 00:49:54,039 --> 00:49:59,119 back in the room and agree that that that's what success is called. I 650 00:49:59,519 --> 00:50:04,639 say, so where we're You know what I mean? So we're What we're 651 00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:09,559 really happy about is we've checked off all the boxes for twenty twenty three. 652 00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:12,920 We don't know how other bands do it, but just how we do it. 653 00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:15,119 We set goals for each year. We all sit down as individuals. 654 00:50:15,199 --> 00:50:19,239 We all write down on pieces of paper. He writes down five things, 655 00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:22,599 she writes down five. Even our staff members do it. Everybody. It's 656 00:50:22,679 --> 00:50:24,159 it's a it's a rule. We all sit there. We have rules in 657 00:50:24,199 --> 00:50:27,400 the band, and one of the rules is we got to know what you 658 00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:30,400 want. How do you want to participate? We don't write nobody, you're 659 00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:31,880 not allowed to be in the club unless you unless you tell us what you 660 00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:35,800 want, because there's no reason of being here unless we can help you get 661 00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:37,920 what you want. Because we know people won't do something for long unless they 662 00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:45,239 get what they want right, so long you know what I mean. And 663 00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:49,199 this is like I said, this isn't something we don't just tune the guitars. 664 00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:52,920 We read about this stuff. We're in an evolving industry that that that 665 00:50:53,639 --> 00:50:58,920 in modern day era, with the with the internet and information traveling at light 666 00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:04,199 speed, so does the industry. So that the industry is evolving over weeks 667 00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:07,000 and days. Whereas the years ago, you might need you might have the 668 00:51:07,079 --> 00:51:12,400 time with a particular technology like CDs or something, or radio. We had 669 00:51:12,519 --> 00:51:19,679 radio around for fifty years we had but now we have something for weeks and 670 00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:22,400 until it becomes something else or evolved with something else. So like for us, 671 00:51:23,079 --> 00:51:29,239 when you think about who we are, we are a modern rock We're 672 00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:31,280 not. We're not rock from nineteen seventies. So we're not we're not We're 673 00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:37,559 not hunting radio. We're not hunting outdated ideas, we're not hunting outdated technology. 674 00:51:37,599 --> 00:51:42,960 We're not hunting a rock and roll that our grandfathers were in as much 675 00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:45,239 as unless we borrow from that as much we learned from that, and we've 676 00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:52,800 inherited skills from that we can and we can sample and marinate in those conversations 677 00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:59,280 and and and dip into that toolbox as special features as for conversational pieces whatever. 678 00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:04,519 But we're a modern band and we are and and and for us, 679 00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:14,440 it's our goal. We are constantly hunting what others are not doing, what 680 00:52:14,679 --> 00:52:23,400 other whatever we know She's right. What's what we do is we're always hunting 681 00:52:23,519 --> 00:52:28,679 for that one to five percent of what other bands and our competitors aren't doing. 682 00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:32,480 That's the research, if so. And the cool part is, if 683 00:52:32,519 --> 00:52:37,320 you're a band in New Hampshire or in the world, we're following you. 684 00:52:37,599 --> 00:52:40,320 Don't ever think that we're because you know, either think that it is Ozzy 685 00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:45,760 Osbourne follow me, or does this band like mess follows you. We follow 686 00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:50,199 everybody. Even if we don't follow you and hit the button, we're following 687 00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:52,719 you. We're watching all of you and we're listening to your music. We 688 00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:58,400 listen to your music too, whether you're doing karaoke, whether you're doing beatboxing 689 00:52:58,559 --> 00:53:01,360 or rapping, we're watching you. Uh, Alright, I was just gonna 690 00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:05,519 say, Robert Pan is in the chatterman says, hey, Matt, Robert 691 00:53:05,559 --> 00:53:09,239 Pan from Second Street. Uh, Sonoco, my son, my son is 692 00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:16,840 the drummer for Sepsis. It's my favorite. Well, apparently I'll have to 693 00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:22,159 stop it at the Second Street Sono Oko sometime to meet him. Bob has 694 00:53:22,159 --> 00:53:29,639 been in our lives, so people don't notice about about So Salvator Pan is 695 00:53:29,679 --> 00:53:36,239 a returning member and an original drummer. Very cool, good so yeah, 696 00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:39,760 so so he left temporarily and started Rags to Stitches. Okay, and now 697 00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:44,079 he's back. Wow, excellent, excellent. Isn't that cool? Cool? 698 00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:46,800 We're about to change the look over there, we got Yeah, we're about 699 00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:53,159 to. Yeah. We wanted to be more like pee Wee's playhouse a hideout. 700 00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:58,679 Yeah, we want like trapdoors to come out explosions. What about the 701 00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:02,320 fee and the play Yes, we want like plants that are dancing in the 702 00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:07,599 bag. We want we want this to be Yes, you know, like 703 00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:13,639 maybe like a like a jambie or something not gen big. She's thinking she 704 00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:16,000 wants to play her drum. That's what I thought, too, because I've 705 00:54:16,039 --> 00:54:19,679 heard that word pronounced a thousand different ways. I thought that's what you were 706 00:54:19,679 --> 00:54:22,679 saying. You know, you remember you remember Mecca Laka high machaheiey ho. 707 00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:30,800 That's not a bad word. No, that's not a bad word. Everybody's 708 00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:37,559 like it's gonna happen anyway. Shout out to Clemento. They got great pizza 709 00:54:37,639 --> 00:54:45,599 and gas. Nicole, I'm not gonna say this correctly. I'm sure Budage 710 00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:50,000 Sandborn Yeah, says they are an amazing music. Oh, they are an 711 00:54:50,039 --> 00:54:54,119 amazing band musically and personally, each and every member very nice. Man. 712 00:54:54,199 --> 00:55:00,880 We need as much people to say that as possible. So I Nicole said 713 00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:07,079 that we're personally charming and we are personally satisfying for the records, amazing. 714 00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:13,719 She didn't say charming or satisfying, but she did say but she did say 715 00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:17,480 amazing. Yes, but she used the word personal. See that, Zach, 716 00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:24,159 personal as opposed to personable. Yes. Yes, Well, me and 717 00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:30,320 Zach have this ongoing joke of people that watch us on the internet and review 718 00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:35,159 our personalities. I said, come on, you only see the twenty second 719 00:55:35,199 --> 00:55:37,760 clip of me. You don't know what happened before the clip or after. 720 00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:42,559 What do you think you're reviewing for our personalities in review right now? Right? 721 00:55:42,639 --> 00:55:50,119 Has ever occurred that that that this might be my public personality and that 722 00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:54,039 could you know, Oh, we had a question to Jay fed one of 723 00:55:54,079 --> 00:56:00,199 our friends from Vermont had a question for Zach about let's ask Zach questions out 724 00:56:00,199 --> 00:56:06,199 the length of your beard. Yeah, I didn't know where that was going. 725 00:56:07,079 --> 00:56:12,960 Moved quickly. Now this isn't a problem yet obviously, but if you 726 00:56:13,039 --> 00:56:15,519 if you were to grow it out. He was asking about growing it out 727 00:56:15,519 --> 00:56:19,880 and would you be concerned about it getting caught in your bass strings? You 728 00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:23,320 know, it's funny. I actually just shaved recently. It was a lot 729 00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:27,039 longer. Okay, too long? Is that why you shaved it? Because 730 00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:31,000 it was gonna get in the way bass and didn't get stuck in the string. 731 00:56:31,199 --> 00:56:36,239 That's true, that's true. Well, you know he's very into beards 732 00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:38,519 and ice baths baths. Yes, if you go to Vermont, he will 733 00:56:38,599 --> 00:56:43,880 invite you into a real ice bath, a real like he breaks the ice 734 00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:46,400 and gets in it. The older it is, the happier he is. 735 00:56:47,599 --> 00:56:52,280 That's incredible. There were those of us who think no, no, not 736 00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:58,840 so much. But hypothermia fan he does have a fan base. Yeah, 737 00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:00,519 that's really cool. Actually, you know in the summer, that actually sounds 738 00:57:00,559 --> 00:57:07,480 amazing because I'm a very sweaty person. This is not about this is not 739 00:57:07,639 --> 00:57:09,719 about summer. Oh no, no, no, like tread out there on 740 00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:16,639 the snow, take a sledgehammer to the ice it for as long as you 741 00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:22,559 whatever can stay. I think it's insane. I personally don't have any desire 742 00:57:22,599 --> 00:57:24,920 to do so. Is it like the longer you stay in you get a 743 00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:29,639 prize or something like if you can break the rest? I try that. 744 00:57:30,119 --> 00:57:32,639 I think it's only in his mind the price he gets. Yeah, it's 745 00:57:32,639 --> 00:57:36,760 supposed to do something healthy for you, but I don't know. Yeah, 746 00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:39,559 I don't know what. I won't knock it till I try. Yeah, 747 00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:43,880 yeah, I'm not. I would I could see this, Yes, right, 748 00:57:45,039 --> 00:57:46,960 we should? We should. Uh So, you've all been very generous 749 00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:50,920 with your time and we appreciate it. We'll we'll let you, we'll let 750 00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:52,920 you bounce in a minute. But I do want to make sure everybody knows 751 00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:57,360 where to find you online, the band, the podcasts, everything. What 752 00:57:57,599 --> 00:58:02,119 should our listeners know in terms of well, you should know that if you 753 00:58:02,199 --> 00:58:10,079 don't follow us, it'll be impossible to ignore us because Sepsis has a talent 754 00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:15,039 of being everywhere online. I was just gonna say that they're like me, 755 00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:23,880 they're everywhere. We have this twenty twenty four will be the most productive year 756 00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:34,039 we've ever had. And that's a terrifying prospect because that means I have a 757 00:58:34,079 --> 00:58:39,599 lot of work to do. No, but we I mean, I don't 758 00:58:39,679 --> 00:58:45,159 quote me on this and nail me to the cross. But Virginia, we'll 759 00:58:45,199 --> 00:58:52,480 be back in Pennsylvania this year. It looks like North Carolina. We'll be 760 00:58:52,559 --> 00:59:00,280 returning to the Chicago area. I got some huge news coming up up for 761 00:59:00,639 --> 00:59:06,360 fans in the Midwest that can't even get on that right now upstate New York, 762 00:59:07,599 --> 00:59:14,639 Ohio Swarmy Fest three uh, and so much more. We got the 763 00:59:15,239 --> 00:59:20,599 We got new music coming out, maybe some acoustic songs. Of course, 764 00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:24,920 we got Take the World by Swarm, our second album. I Love Take 765 00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:37,159 the World by Swarm like the the amazing our engineering producer, the the amazing 766 00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:40,960 Glenn Robinson. As you know his work has been nominated for Grammys before. 767 00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:49,719 Our producer Glenn Robinson from of course Jason Newstead gwore Queen's right. If you 768 00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:54,280 don't know about our producer, go check them out. He's worked on everything 769 00:59:57,400 --> 01:00:05,639 from Guitar hero to even remastering work with YouTube on HBO so go. If 770 01:00:05,679 --> 01:00:10,559 you didn't know the I would say Glenn Robinson is definitely the seventh member of 771 01:00:10,679 --> 01:00:16,679 Sepsis, so he'll be back with us on the second record. Of course, 772 01:00:17,159 --> 01:00:22,400 our friends and partners and stations do have Romance and Reality. Romance and 773 01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:27,519 Reality is not released for streaming yet, but all of our friends have it, 774 01:00:27,639 --> 01:00:31,000 so I believe you can pre order it on Distro Kid and it's going 775 01:00:31,039 --> 01:00:36,400 to be released December twenty first. Yeah, excellent, but we're also going 776 01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:37,960 to hear it. At the end of the segment, I was going to 777 01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:39,800 say, you might be able to hear it. If you guys tune in, 778 01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:43,840 you get to hear and I think that's the That's the thing that a 779 01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:50,440 cool thing to me and Melissa have been doing is letting our fans and partners 780 01:00:50,559 --> 01:00:54,719 in radio stations get our music first before the industry gets it. Yeah. 781 01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:58,280 A lot of artists will go out and they give all their music to the 782 01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:01,760 industry. We're doing something different. We're giving it to our friends and to 783 01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:06,519 our curators and to our partners first, and then the industry gets it later. 784 01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:12,480 And then also we're playing in Connecticut on January. How could I forget 785 01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:20,800 cool? Yeah? So we love Blizzard Birthday. We love Dead by Wednesday 786 01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:25,559 and I used to book them here in Manchester. I booked a shows for 787 01:01:25,639 --> 01:01:30,679 them when they would come up because years ago, years ago. I mean, 788 01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:37,039 there'll be a lot of people who probably will be funky about my next 789 01:01:37,119 --> 01:01:47,559 statement. But I think I think Dead by Wednesday is the perfect example of 790 01:01:47,679 --> 01:01:54,360 a poster band of success for New England bands. I think, when you 791 01:01:54,519 --> 01:02:00,639 when when when you want to if you want to go, what what is 792 01:02:00,719 --> 01:02:07,000 the definition of making it? Because I you know, once you you know, 793 01:02:07,079 --> 01:02:09,440 if you truly make it, then maybe you'd be done. And I 794 01:02:09,519 --> 01:02:14,559 guess, but this is like if you want if, what is the definition 795 01:02:14,719 --> 01:02:19,840 of moving forward towards the direction of making it? Yeah? I feel like 796 01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:22,880 Dead by Wednesday is one of those bands. And there are others, but 797 01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:32,079 I will say stiff competition. I would say Dead by Wednesday is by far 798 01:02:34,119 --> 01:02:39,400 the perfect example of New England bands making it and being successful. They are 799 01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:50,239 the entire package of what it would I think definably clearly represents successful bands in 800 01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:52,760 New England. Legion of Solace in the chat says, also, the Birthday 801 01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:58,480 Bash in January will be a reunion for the original sixth lineup for Dead by 802 01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:04,880 Wednesday. No, I didn't need that's why. Oh wow, that's awesome. 803 01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:09,519 That's wow, that's incredible. I'm blown away. What a wow? 804 01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:14,880 I'm not whoa, I'm blown away. I'm now I want it to be 805 01:03:15,199 --> 01:03:19,880 the Blizzard Bash. Can it be tomorrow? Oh? We have to get 806 01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:22,880 this into Anna Randall in the chat room says, I personally think that Sepsis 807 01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:28,280 is amazing on many levels. I'm not being biased, just stating the truth. 808 01:03:28,719 --> 01:03:34,800 Very nice, she's famous, very cool, very cool. What's it 809 01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:37,039 now? What's the uh? So? Where should people go? Should people 810 01:03:37,039 --> 01:03:42,199 go to your main website for everything? Can they find everything there? All 811 01:03:42,239 --> 01:03:45,639 the all the shows and yes, podcasts, one stop shop dot com. 812 01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:50,239 Yeah, we're doing every like if anything I can. This is a great 813 01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:55,119 advice for artists too. I know we've done a lot to rely and to 814 01:03:55,280 --> 01:04:02,039 count and great tools social media and all these third party apps and the subscription 815 01:04:02,199 --> 01:04:08,639 lifestyle as I'd like to call it. But this year me and Lexi have 816 01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:12,159 gone over so many bands that just don't have websites. Yeah, oh my 817 01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:15,119 gosh, you know in an address. You know, if you're filling out 818 01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:17,760 a job application for Wendy's, you'd have an address, right, if you'd 819 01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:20,880 have a phone, you have a phone number right and an address bands? 820 01:04:21,079 --> 01:04:26,559 Yeah, please please it please, you want to be taken seriously. Yeah, 821 01:04:26,639 --> 01:04:30,639 you need a dog something else that we kind of re recognized too, 822 01:04:30,719 --> 01:04:34,119 because we've actually given some folks some highlights on some of the websites we have. 823 01:04:34,559 --> 01:04:38,920 For sure, you guys love what you guys guys. Yeah, it's 824 01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:43,360 hard for some to get that first website up. Fill out your bio, 825 01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:50,800 have a phone that somebody can reach you at, a professional email, and 826 01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:56,480 a website. Please have a home for your band. There was a weird 827 01:04:56,639 --> 01:05:00,280 period. This goes way, This goes back almost twenty years. But I 828 01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:03,519 remember when my space got really big, there was this because I've been out 829 01:05:03,559 --> 01:05:08,119 there. Yeah, didn't we learn now not to put We should have learned 830 01:05:08,199 --> 01:05:10,760 that then. But the thing is, so I've I've I've also been a 831 01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:14,320 web designer for a long time, and I remember I would run into this 832 01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:16,000 a lot where bands would tell me, now, we don't we don't need 833 01:05:16,079 --> 01:05:21,679 a website. We have We have MySpace. We're on my Space and that 834 01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:28,159 became a thing. That's the thing now with with artists. Find us on 835 01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:33,400 Instagram or check out my Spotify. This is the one websit band Doozle and 836 01:05:33,599 --> 01:05:40,480 bands in Town and Bandemonium. What's the other one? Band band camp and 837 01:05:41,159 --> 01:05:46,039 band town band band. They got to pack it up and start the buses 838 01:05:46,519 --> 01:05:51,360 we need. We can't find anybody websites and app forevery I mean, and 839 01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:55,719 how many subscriptions are you going to have? Twitter is up for sended to 840 01:05:55,840 --> 01:06:00,360 doing subscriptions that Twitter everywhere everyone's going. So you have a subscription to be 841 01:06:00,559 --> 01:06:06,480 yourself? Right, describe subscribing to your last name. If it's not nailed 842 01:06:06,559 --> 01:06:14,360 down, security department, I'm going to start a subscription. Let me get 843 01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:19,840 out of here. You no, you're you're right though. Yeah. So, 844 01:06:20,199 --> 01:06:25,679 so Sepsis is a substance. We're doing everything from sepsis dot com and 845 01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:28,280 we should For people who don't know, it's S E P. S I 846 01:06:28,519 --> 01:06:30,760 S. You can find us on all the snapper, Google poppers. We're 847 01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:35,199 all on all the stuff. You're very google bable, yes, but it's 848 01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:40,159 important on many of these thirds, right, We're on all of that stuff. 849 01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:43,599 Yeah, but we do. We do at our home. And you 850 01:06:43,719 --> 01:06:45,719 know what, here's the other thing bands are always talking about. You know, 851 01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:49,039 you can do all this virtual stuff and spend all kinds of money to 852 01:06:49,079 --> 01:06:51,800 support Sepsis. You don't have to like spend any money all the time. 853 01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:55,320 You know, it could just be something simple, is like leaving us a 854 01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:59,519 Google review or signing our guestbook on our dot com. Those are things that 855 01:06:59,559 --> 01:07:00,960 you can do to help out really any band. It don't cost a lot 856 01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:04,559 of money. And you know what, get off the internet, go see 857 01:07:04,599 --> 01:07:10,400 a show. It's not our show. A show a show. If you 858 01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:15,480 don't come and see Sepsis, go see the band in your neighborhood. People 859 01:07:15,519 --> 01:07:19,159 are always asking me. You see these things online, who's the most underrated 860 01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:24,880 band? And then you'll see people will say their favorite celebrity bands, the 861 01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:31,320 most underrated, underdeveloped, underappreciated, underpaid band that is super talented is your 862 01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:35,760 neighbor Yeah, seriously, that's it. Hell yeah, not even kidding. 863 01:07:36,599 --> 01:07:41,800 If there's anything I've learned this year from the process that we've done and how 864 01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:44,920 we've been changing the format all year, more and more I get into music. 865 01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:48,880 It's like I always tell them it's unbelievable how much talent we have in 866 01:07:49,119 --> 01:07:53,199 just in New England, just in our town, just in our city. 867 01:07:53,599 --> 01:07:58,880 I just I'm always floored by how many new and amazing artists come up I 868 01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:02,440 get to see. I mean, it really does surprise me. You think 869 01:08:02,519 --> 01:08:05,880 that it's the only there's there's a whole lot of diamonds out there. Oh 870 01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:10,960 definitely, yeah, yeah, absolutely, Well, so we'll let you all 871 01:08:11,039 --> 01:08:13,960 go. Thank you again, by the way for the wonderful shirts. Thank 872 01:08:14,079 --> 01:08:18,680 thank you three and Malcolm and everybody to solid. Definitely going to be having 873 01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:21,439 you guys back in, and I know, I definitely want to have you 874 01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:25,399 guys come back in and talk about some of the stuff that's going on in 875 01:08:25,479 --> 01:08:29,560 the industry. The cool thing about we can bring back more people, so 876 01:08:29,720 --> 01:08:32,560 like we could completely switch everybody out. It could be like strangers next time. 877 01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:38,359 That's nice. Would just send you know, Salvatore and hot Sauce and 878 01:08:38,399 --> 01:08:41,199 it would be like having complete strangers. You'll walk in and you guys be 879 01:08:41,279 --> 01:08:44,800 like, who are you? I will recognize them right, thank you? 880 01:08:44,920 --> 01:08:49,600 If you're a swarmy thank you, how dare you? So? If you 881 01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:53,319 if you didn't know so there are there are levels to this now, so 882 01:08:53,439 --> 01:08:57,039 there's like they're like, you know, there's like fans and and and and 883 01:08:57,159 --> 01:09:00,720 of course people are like, what is the swarmy? Swarmis are the closest 884 01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:03,399 thing that you can be to being in the band. Oh okay, people 885 01:09:03,439 --> 01:09:08,279 don't know that. So so there's like fans, and there's like super fans, 886 01:09:08,319 --> 01:09:11,319 and then there's like swarmies, and swarmies are almost like staff members. 887 01:09:11,720 --> 01:09:16,800 But the elite green beret of the swarmy it's called the yellow jackets. Oh 888 01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:23,039 so if you're a yellow jacket. So a swarmy is like a prestigious fan. 889 01:09:23,479 --> 01:09:27,600 A swarmy is an ultimate stepsist fan, but is a public fan because 890 01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:30,199 like some fans would be your fan, but they're not publicly, right, 891 01:09:30,399 --> 01:09:38,039 Like, I'm your fans conveniently when you're doing stuff that I like, right 892 01:09:38,279 --> 01:09:42,199 right, I didn't like that, I'm not sharing it. I agree with 893 01:09:42,279 --> 01:09:46,079 you, then I'm your fan. Okay, But if it's two percent off, 894 01:09:46,199 --> 01:09:51,520 nope, right, celebrating differences, nope, so but that so, 895 01:09:51,640 --> 01:09:58,000 but yellow jackets are the fans that celebrate us publicly, regardless of our differences, 896 01:09:58,359 --> 01:10:01,399 regardless of our humanity, regardless of what makes us special and unique. 897 01:10:02,239 --> 01:10:09,079 Yellow jackets are the the I would say, the elite swore me. Oh 898 01:10:09,199 --> 01:10:14,279 yeah. Excellent. Thank you, guys, thank you, thank you so much,