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You're listening to your worst friend Going
Deeper. You're listening to your worst friend

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with Shane and Matt Going Deeper,
Season four. I'm Matt. I'm joined

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today by my friend and co host
Shane. Hello, and today we are

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joined by a guest that I reached
out to personally. Had no idea that

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our PR agent actually I don't know
if she even knows this story. I

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emailed her personally because I am such
a huge fan of hers, and she

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forwarded the message to the greatest PR
agent in the world, Erica, and

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said, these guys legit like they're
using your name. Blah blah blah.

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She wasn't even mean about it or
anything like make sure not to put me

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on the scumbag show. But ladies
and gentlemen, today we have with us

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Chase sites. You can find Shay
on Twitter at at shay Underscore sites on

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Instagram at Shay Site's official and her
only fans go there. Pay for it,

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however you're gonna do. If she
sells pay per view stuff, which

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we'll get into, make sure you
pay for that. If she just sells

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the monthly subscription, make sure you
pay for that. We're gonna break in

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we're gonna go through her like business
process. I'm like, nervous. This

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is weird. You're nervous. Here's
why I've interstruck. We've interviewed some of

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the biggest names this and that you
are from. We'll get into it,

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Shay. But that's a nice way
to put it, and I would have

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even tried to put it even nicer. But you're from what I consider the

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golden age. Now, the golden
age for every guy is when they were

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big, when around the time you
were sixteen seventeen, Right makes sense.

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Okay, let me go through the
blugs only fans at shay underscore sites.

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Make sure you go to our website
and follow us everywhere at your worst and

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dot com and at worst friend cast
everywhere. Shane your plugs. Oh yeah,

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you can check out my wife's only
fans at Goddamn x X, Goddamn

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gah d a m N or go
to many Bits and check out Kiki Filipina

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XO. Okay, now that I'm
done bumbling through that, she literally is

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going to go scream at Erica now
and like these guys have no fucking idea

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what they're doing. I can also
go deeper with you guys. Oh well,

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I personally can't go very deep,
but I'll go deep as as far

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as I can. Um. I
was waiting too be able to like play

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off that, but then I got
like eight thousand plugs after and I'm like,

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I remember this, please remember this
place. It's a good joke.

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The plugs just kept going deeper and
deeper and deeper. Or what were the

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names we originally ran through uncut?
I mean all the hack ones after dark

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uncut and then going deeper to me
just sounded like I didn't see it anywhere

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else. Let's run with it.
And our show name Your Worst Friend literally

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comes from the first episode where I
just go, You're just the worst friend

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I have, Shane. This is
terrible. And then now we're downloaded in

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over one hundred countries. That's a
real problem with creating content. You have

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to make sure at last the amount
of time you know that you're going to

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be around. So how did you
initially get the name shay sites? Hold

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on, bear with me, of
course, but a battery pack honk,

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because I just got an alert that
I know. That's totally fine, A

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little low alright, So hold on, no, you're good watching a porn

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star Amoult task here all right,
very usually the best at it. Yes,

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they are exactly. Yeah, ski
pole type stuff. I did a

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lot of skiing in my younger days. Sure me too. You know,

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Oh you actually done skiing. I
think we'll get into that. Yeah,

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yeah, I know, I have
not. I mean, you know,

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both ways, Sure, all the
way ski poles, totally understand. I

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just packed a lot of snow in
my nose. Um, all right,

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So how did you pick the name
shay Sites to start with? Oh?

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Yes, thank you for circling back
around. Sure. So I grew up

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in Vancouver, Canada. I want
to say it was fifth grade my dad.

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I grew up with my father only
child, and he used to come

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down to Los Angeles where I now
live and visit a college friend every year

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in like September, and we would
always do the same trip. Who was

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a big wine person, and we
would drive through Napa back in the day

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when if anyone drinks wine, silver
oak was twenty five dollars a bottle,

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not seventy. I was a little
one, and I used to like two

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or through there, and that's I
think probably totally acceptable now. But um,

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through the redwood forest at the husband
pancakes all the way down to his

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friend's house. They had a couple
of kids. One was around my age,

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and I used to go to school
with her and thought it was the

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coolest thing ever because everyone was a
surfer and you know, very la from

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Canada. It's like, Vancouver's a
cool town. It's beautiful, but it's

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not Los Angeles. Right, So
the hot popular cool guy was Shase Sites.

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But I'm sure it was like Si
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of course here's this like little girl
from Canada going oh, Shase Sites and

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so fast forwards. I don't know. When I started stripping in Canada,

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I was like nineteen twenty drinking age
if there's nineteen. So I was like,

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I need a name, and that
like literally just popped into my head.

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Shase Sites. There you go.
I mean, that's that's that's.

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I like that. You you like
androgenized it, you know, like I

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did. I would have never a
lot and stuff. So I mean maybe

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you know so to shame. Yeah, so your initial wait, let's go

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back to that or you go back
to it. Yeah, let's circle back

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around there. Okay, sure,
I mean I'm willing, but I'm more

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of a like a like a coach. You know, I really like to

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be an observer. Um yeah,
I love watching too. I'm super voyeuristic.

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Yeah today that's the word. I'm
voyeuristic. So you know, like

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if my wife was going to peg
Matt or something, I'd be totally down

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to watch that. Yeah. I'm
as vanilla as could be. I've had

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two serious girlfriends in my life.
I was lucky enough to meet my wife

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at twenty years old and I am
thirty five. Now. We are very

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happy and she's never pegged me once. That is not because I have any

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kind of problem with it whatsoever.
I don't know. It's a personal preference.

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You know what truthful do You don't
want to know what it was,

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not that you asked anyone. But
here, let me go on a little

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rant here. Yea, I am
uncomfortable with my looks, my body,

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everything like that, So I can
just imagine. Here's what I do.

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I always when I'm around my wife. Oh man, this is why are

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we going deeper on me. I'm
around my wife as long as we've been

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together. I never want to give
a gross impression of myself because I don't

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have that peg. Then unless you've
literally been trained by a porn star or

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someone know, and everybody listening to
this seriously, you have to either just

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be okay to go fuck it,
I had a poop on someone, or

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prep like we do. There's like
no in between, because in between is

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like, oh god, what if
I should on someone? Yeah? See

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I can't. I can't have the
thought of her waking up one day going

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oh my god, remember that time
he shit on my dick. I have

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to leave him now, you know. And and I've had whereas we're like

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at some point somewhere everyone has had
some weird shit happen and none of us

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care. See that's fair enough part
of the pars. Yeah, uh so

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you did, Like I was saying, no longer sax you to like fifty

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percent of my found base now and
you are so much exire to the other

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fifty That's exactly what I was thinking
the other fifty year now, going to

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sign up and go, oh my
god, does she do shit stuff?

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Yeah, get over a glass table
and let me really watch it, so

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that that I don't I actually don't
do that. Okay. Well that that

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leads us into a question. We
uh, since day one have come up

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with this little acronym and uh it
is sack sak. When we started doing

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the show, we would ask performers
what is something no amount of money could

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get you to do? And inevitably
one of them would say, like,

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well, I wouldn't fuck a dog, or like I wouldn't fuck a kid.

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Hey, we know, uh,
we know that, we understand that.

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So shit, animals, kids are
the three things. We go,

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Hey, we understand that's not on
your list. Is there anything on your

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list that you're just not interested in
doing? Either for end the amount of

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money, even if the performers are
great and everything else. Is there an

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act? Is there a fetish?
Is there a type of scene anything like

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that where you go and that's not
shayites. Shaye doesn't want to do that.

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She speaks in the third person sometimes, and Shay is not interested in

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doing your scene. It's hard when
you say any amount of money because because

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it's it's not realistic, because there's
no director that's going to go, oh,

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hey, like whatever that damning Moore
movie was, I'll give you a

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million dollars to accent proposal. Yeah, and you sit there and go I

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could probably, like, you know, have a few nice shots of tequila

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and like wrap my brain around it
for a minute. For that everybody thinks

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maybe right with whatever the thing is, I don't know that anything we're talking

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about whatever, get that amount thrown
at them. But if we're talking hypothetically,

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I used to do a lot of
fetish and kink before I even did

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porn actually, and I described to
the place where I was like, I

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don't I don't really like being submissive
and more of a dom if I'm going

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to do anything. But I also
don't really like hurting anyone, Like I

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don't want to beat the shit out
of someone and make them bleed and get

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into like you know, medical mutation. And again no judgment, but like

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I'm not gonna like kill boss at
your fucking dick, Like I just it's

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not my jam. Sure, I
understand that I watched you grab yours just

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to look you real like on the
inside kind of like, hey, yeah,

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well we have watched on our comedy
show. We've watched plenty of sounding

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videos and that's just I think Shane
and I can confidently say, as openly

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sexual as we are, it ain't
for us. That's not my thing.

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Yeah, And like hanging um like
really really heavy, like I don't know

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have mutation is the word for it, but like when people have like things

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like hooks in their back and they're
mortification mutilation, yeah yeah yeah, So

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for me, like could I do
that to someone? I'm super empathic as

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much as I'm like super deviant and
like, I have a side. I'm

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like extremely spiritually centered and very loving, but I'm also like, you know,

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the horns come out and I'm like
fuck yeah. So, but but

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I can't. I don't want to
hurt people, especially at this point in

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my life, more so when I
was younger, not so much that stuff,

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but I could have wrapped my brain
around a little bit heavier domination.

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But I don't. I don't.
I can't hurt people. Okay, so

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what you now? That being said, I did fuck, I did fucking

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double fist Michael Vegas the other day
and do a crazy pegging scene. However,

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he was like, oh my god, yeah I loved it, and

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I was like, oh my god, I can't believe I'm fucking doing this

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right now. Um So, if
somebody's into it and they're open and fun,

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I will absolutely put having fun.
I'll push the envelope. But I

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can't hurt people. Sure. I
guess the fear would be if you were

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doing something like that that halfway through
someone like them, I don't like that,

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and then you would then feel like, ah, shit, maybe I

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fucked up. Maybe I did something
like that. That's not your thing,

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because anyone can be open to anything, you know, Like I said,

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with the sounding stuff, yea,
the sounding stuff is the most horrendous thing

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in the world to me. If
you like it, God bless you,

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or whoever bless you, it terrifies
me because I can just picture it ripping

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something on the inside, or it's
just scary scary to me. Yeah,

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for me, it's like not even
I don't even I don't even want to

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start, because it's not like oh, it just gets to the point where

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they say no for me because I
am so energy sensitive and I like feel

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people's things, so so I'm good
with passionate domination. Like I'm like,

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if someone's like fuck yeah, like
you know, smacks the shit out of

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my ass, or I'll be like, okay, choke me. But when

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someone's like, punch me in the
fucking face till I bleed. Um.

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I I don't know how to say
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I think everyone needs whatever they need
or the therapy that they need from

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that. I think I've had a
good word earlier, empathic. Right,

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Yeah, so you're going to feel
that, You're going to feel that,

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you're going to feel. I'm going
to feel why do you want to bleed?

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I'm going to feel why do you
want to be hurt that deeply?

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And even if it is therapy for
you, which I think it is,

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probably a lot of people are working
through different things, however they choose to

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do that, that's just something I
can't be around because it's just too it's

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too intense for me. Which and
you know, like you'd say, while

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you know, you're you know,
double fisting a guy or you're getting DPT

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or whatever, and that's not intense. And I get the argument. But

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my stuff that I do feels okay
within me, which was you know,

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sort of the basis of your whole
question. Right, Sure, everybody has

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boundaries. Yeah, Now here's where
I throw Shane under the bus. He's

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somewhat of a skeptic here on a
lot of like cool stuff that I'm interested

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in. I have read you are
very much into energy and energy healing and

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stuff like that. How does that
play into any kind of scenes you choose

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to take, or how's that played
into your career? Have you? Have

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you ever been like, man,
I think I'm going to take that scene

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and then something just kind of an
intuition hits you and you're or I don't

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know, I don't know. Explain
the energy thing to me. Don't do

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a lot of that with the so, like you know, I'm gonna go

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a little woo woo on you please. Um. So it's chakra system,

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right, And it's interesting because mathematically
sound correlates right to mathematics. Do you

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guys know that? Right? Like? Right? So the chakras also correlates

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to sound, and there's seven of
them, and they correlate to the musical

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scale. It's cdf, G A
BC, So there's seven, right,

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And same thing like you hit a
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violin, you'll also tune a chakra
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one beside, it'll start vibrating.
Our bodies do that as well. I'm

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trying to be I'm not super scientific, but I'm trying to articulate what I

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know. So see it is the
most important thing. Yeah, sure,

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yeah, so that's the science part
of it is, like we'd all vibrate

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in a different place, right,
So sorry, I'm getting all these alerts

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here. So I don't necessarily go
into a scene going, oh, I'm

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going to open up and be all
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go into a scene usually and go, oh, okay, this is go

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time. I'm gonna go find Shay
and I usually go and I go and

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I'm like fuck, yeah, right, okay. But when I do energy

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healing, I'm more like, oh, like, you don't want to shoot

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a porn scene like that. I
mean, maybe you would do like a

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tan like that, but I just
don't. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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I don't. Really, I don't
blend them. They're not I don't.

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I mean, I'm not saying they're
not blendable. Um not the stuff I've

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shot thus far. Maybe some of
the new stuff. I'm doing this a

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little more nurtury, like the family
taboo stuff's a little more like lobbing.

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But but I still don't. Um, I don't really criss cross those like

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when I do healing work that that's
when I do that stuff. Sure,

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so you don't bring it to set
with you, but has it ever influenced

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I am and see me everywhere I
go, and usually I'm in the makeup

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chair and people go while you're so
zen but vibrating really hard. Yeah,

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so are you? Um, I'm
like go ahead, sorry, yeah,

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So I don't. I don't really
I don't really try to integrate them because

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I don't really know that like,
um, you know, pick your audience

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right, and also pick your your
own way of living your life like it's

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not it's fluid, like you know, I'm not. I'm not gonna.

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I don't think the people that want
to watch my scenes want to see the

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facet in me. That's all like, oh, because it's you know.

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And and when I shoot porn,
it's a cool outlet because we do have

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seven chakras and so third, fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh, those

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are sort of the more ethereal ones, but we also have lower ones and

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we're in a body and and so
those are more sexual and and I do

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other things other than porn, So
I have a pretty good balance of when

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I do what. Sure, you
know totally makes sense. You did say

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something interesting though, you don't know
if your people would necessarily want you to

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bring that and if you did want
to cross those lines, that's I totally

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understand and respect that too. But
the thing that's so fun about porn is

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it's so niche, niche, niche
whatever. You would find people that would

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like that if you ever decided to, well, that's actually people do need

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healing, absolutely. I think a
lot of people turn to porn for it.

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And I've recently started doing some asmar
work and I have like I've never

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been the girl that can get two
dicks in her ass, but I mean

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I can. I can get one. I get one if I prep really

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well with a butt plug, like
I can solidly do one. But I

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feel like I'm I mean, my
two things are talking, like I can

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just fucking diarrhea of the mouth like
that means I've never heard anyone put it

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sexier though in porn though, By
the way, my name is Chasites.

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I can just talk and gaze at
you with my beautiful eyes. Have you

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ever heard of diarrhea of the mouth, because yeah, I have diarrhea just

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listening hardest, No, But I
do, Like I mean, I can

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talk and talk and talk and I
love it, like I love. I

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love talking and blow jobs like I
can throw away. Yeah, those are

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my two things. And so that
being said, because I do talk so

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much, I started doing some ASMR
and I do think that that's an outlet

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that's kind of cool because it's not
sexual Olympics, Like you're not trying to

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like be too active, and it's
more of the nurturing milfie like stuff.

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But it's also like this kind of
like making sounds and talking slowly and it's

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about that like tingly stimulating things.
So I've been having fun with that stuff.

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Sure are there any all right?
So you again, like I said,

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vintage, you got into it?
What in what I consider our golden

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age around the Shane and I both
graduated from high school in two thousand and

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six. I think we probably bonded
over our love of porn, which was

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weird, really weird. Well,
yeah, because remember I'm mister Kelly's history

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class and right, yeah, we
use how much we love Miko Lee.

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Yeah we would be like saying,
yeah she knows, yeah yeah Miko Lee.

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Um, So you got how has
the industry changed since then to now?

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Because I've heard both ways. I've
heard it's much more progressive more positive

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now, like it is better for
women on set nowadays. Like and we're

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talking about mainstream obviously, you talk
about the inclusion of the different streams of

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revenue you can bring in through many
different sources now, but let's just talk

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about it's like what they are we
talking about, right, Like when you

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talk about the good old days with
anything, Like I don't know, I'm

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gonna throw this out there, right
Like, I mean, I might say

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this and everyone's like, what the
fuck are you talking about? But it's

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like, you know, I would
go and my dad had several jobs,

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and I would go and like sit
in a bar with him when I was

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younger in some little country town and
like nobody cared right and if you stayed

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there and out and whatever, and
I would just sort of sit there and

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like, you know, he wasn't
hammered, but things were a little more

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acceptable. And I think that and
I just think that we were sort of

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allowed to like go figure our life
out and go you know, you know,

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you just came home when it got
dark, and the parents sort of

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trusted you a little more. And
you guys are obviously younger than me,

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but that's sort of the way it
was it was a little bit more of

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like the wild Wild West and Horn
when I shoot with directors now that I

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used to shoot with back then,
where like Fox do you remember when?

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So it was cool in a sense
of it was just really open and free

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and not so constricted as far and
it was the golden age like there were.

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It was just different, like we
shot big features. You went to

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set, and it was cool in
a lot of ways. Now there's a

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lot more compliance, a lot more
hr Like you sit there, you do

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a video check, you check what's
okay, what's not okay. And I

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never had an issue, but I've
heard that a lot of things through the

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years have happened. So it's probably
a really positive thing, right that you

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sit and go over what you're okay
with and what you're not okay with,

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and that that there is absolutely no
way any kind of rape type thing can

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be misconstrued as being okay, right. You know, I've heard a lot

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of things as far as people kind
of running with that and taking advantage of

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it. But I've also heard of
a lot of girls being put into a

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safe place. And you know,
there's a lot of a lot of arguments

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for everything that's been said, I
have no issue doing it. So that's

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how things have changed, and it
probably protects women and man like, it

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probably protects everybody obviously, right,
So that's a lot different. Like I

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came and I'm like, what is
this? And obviously the family taboo,

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like it's huge now and I'm like, what the fuck is this? Like

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I left in the heyday of things, in my opinion, and it was

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like I came back and we were
just all peeing on each other, and

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now you can't pee on each other, but we're all like fucking our step

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family. So and I'm like,
I mean it's I was like, literally,

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what is this? Why are we
all fucking our family on set?

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But I blamed morals have shifted in
that sense. Sure, yeah, yeah,

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So there's a lot of different stuff. I don't know, I mean,

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is it better or worse? Like
it's where I'm at now, and

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it just is I love the people. I think that the most amazing,

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unconditionally loving, open beings. Of
course, there's people that you know are

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well integrated and not so well integrated
in their lives, in any industry,

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in anything you'll find in life.
So sure there's a little bit of that

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and you know, we have had
some people through the years that have had

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have struggled. But I think that's
everywhere. I think it's amplified. It's

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it's when it's imporn, the media
wants to focus on it. You know,

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you already have a target on you. Yeah, you're doing this because

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X y Z eight you. Yeah, we're all fucked up. We were

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all abused, blah blah. You
know, like, I came from a

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pretty awesome family and I'm sorry,
I'm now I'm talking about family, which

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I'm going to talk about it.
You're more than welcome to. Yeah.

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No, I came from a great
family and I was really supported, and

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I mean it's not they were like
fuck yeah, goo to your corn.

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Of course, you know there's some
disappointment, but it was never like my

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doors shut and you know, I'm
not going to support you. It was

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like, you know, normal concern
for a parent from a parent. But

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um yeah. So I just I
think that I think there's good and bad.

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It's the boring answer, like I
don't have an opinion on that.

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I think that I sort of missed
the camping thing. That's when I went

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off to start my own stuff and
do other things. And I came back

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and it was huge, and that's
what kind of moved us all into content

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creation. And I think it's amazing
that women and men, that everybody can

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create their own content now kind of
a big deal, and it is It

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does kind of take the power away
from the monopoly of the big companies and

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spread things out, which I think
is great. And you know what,

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it kind of gives power obviously to
the performer, but also to the good

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mainstream companies. So you know,
if you know that you're going to have

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a tougher time finding girls because they're
making so much more on their only fans,

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you then have to be able to
you know, you're not going to

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get a lot of scenes. Well
you will, but it will mostly be

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like newer girls getting in the industry, but you're not going to get big

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name stars shooting in like a dingy
set with like shitty cameras. And this

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incentivize them, right, you have
to you have to say, hey,

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I understand you're making so much more. Here's the benefit I can provide to

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you. So it almost sounds like
the Golden Age, like we talk about.

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I would kind of make the comparison
to it kind of feels like the

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wild West. In this sense,
the wild West seems like a lot of

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fun. You just don't want to
be one of the people that get shot

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in the back. But like,
you know, those people that got shot

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in the back are people who went
through bad experiences and whatever, and you

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know, sorry that happened to them. It is a bad experience. But

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we have no I mean literally,
it was like, I mean I was

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like, yeah, what is all
this hr stuff now? I mean it

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was just so everything was kind of
like I don't know, I actually don't

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even know what I'm really allowed to
say. So I'm just not going to

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say things. I don't want to
be like, hey, I we used

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to do this and that, and
I'm like we used to sign our contracts

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in blood. Yeah yeah. But
I mean, like I I have very

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good boundaries, and I was I
mean, I'm not like anyone that looks

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back on that and goes or that
could have been a lawsuit or anything.

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It just what kind of was what
it was. I was actually on set

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with one of the old School directors
a while ago and we were laughing we

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use like number back in the nineties
one, like everything was peeing and now

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It's funny is you can't pee.
You can squirt, you pe and call

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it squirt, but you cannot pee. That's like where they draw the line

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when you can fuck your whole family. If it's step no, or we

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can't be right we're talking like main
like the big name name sites, right,

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or we're talking about that or like
king sites, you can still shoot

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Shane's favorite question. Shane ask your
question. I mean, do you like

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pee? I don't know. Okay, I sure do like it. I

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mean I will pee on you all
day long. I just don't want to

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be peed on. Oh yeah,
yeah, I don't mind be on someone.

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But again, back to my thing
about peeing, Like as long as

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the person that's not hurting someone,
Like if someone's like, fuck, yeah,

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pe on me, I can get
into that because I feed off energy,

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sure, but do I don't want
to have someone piss on me.

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I'm like, it's kind of like
my nipples. I'm like, I don't

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know, man, Like it's not
super sensitive. It hurts if you pull

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out on too hard. Like there's
other parts of my body i'd like touched

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more than my nipples. So that's
kind of how I feel about peak.

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But I will I will totally.
I'm like, I'm a whole fucking peel

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over someone and done a ton of
it. But my point was like back

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in the day, everything Penthouse,
like everything, oh I remember, remember,

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Yeah, every time every time I
one of my step yeah, all

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the centerfold girl would always like be
spread eagle taking like a huge piss and

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that for no reason. You're like, what's the story. There's no story,

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She's just pissing. And so I
was taught was on set and I'm

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like, I'm like, remember when, right, So there's a lot of

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that. Remember when? And he's
like yeah, and he's like and I'm

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like, we shot it was called
Big Boob Lesbian Cops. I shot with

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Keana de Or. We're laughing our
asses off because I was like, there's

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no fucking way we could ever shoot
that because we were these drunken cops and

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I was like fake drinking. And
then she's like, you're a drunk cop

407
00:28:57,119 --> 00:29:00,240
and I'm like, wait, you're
drunk too, for no reason, and

408
00:29:00,279 --> 00:29:03,640
then we do this like girl girl
lesbian cop scene and then we both like

409
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:07,720
he's like and then you guys like
pissed off the edge of the desk for

410
00:29:07,759 --> 00:29:10,839
no reason, and I'm like,
yeah, I think we did, and

411
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:15,680
so you know that happened back then, and we're sitting here and going,

412
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,119
yeah, and you can't pee now, but there's all these other things you

413
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:22,880
can do, right, So I
just am kind of waiting for the next

414
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:26,359
wave of like, Okay, now
you can't fuck your family and your step

415
00:29:26,599 --> 00:29:30,200
family anymore, but now you can
do this, right. So what you

416
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,960
seem pretty intelligent with this stuff?
What is the next wave? That's a

417
00:29:34,039 --> 00:29:37,160
question I've been asking too. Okay, I've been asking about this wave,

418
00:29:37,279 --> 00:29:41,039
like I because I was gone for
ten years, and I'm like, what

419
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:45,039
the fuck is this wave? Like
I'm fairly business davvy, like I have

420
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:51,839
businesses and I try to understand like
things like algorithms and trends and stuff,

421
00:29:51,839 --> 00:29:53,519
and I'm like, where did that
come from? But it has to be

422
00:29:53,519 --> 00:29:57,000
because it's selling. So like,
do I know what the next thing to

423
00:29:57,039 --> 00:30:00,000
sell is? I don't know,
but I can tell you there's a fucking

424
00:30:00,039 --> 00:30:03,960
way. I thought, you know, in two thousand and six, when

425
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:08,359
you guys were jacking off to me, and let's say college, can we

426
00:30:08,359 --> 00:30:11,119
stay college? Because high school is
weird? I didn't go. I was

427
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:15,160
eighteen in high school. But yeah, sure, that's fine. I missed

428
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,799
the birthday cut off. I'm not
stupid. I mean I am stupid both

429
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:22,240
when you guys were eighteen and jacking
off to me, that's correct, Yes

430
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:29,160
whenever that was Uh yeah, I
mean I feel I don't know. I

431
00:30:29,279 --> 00:30:34,880
feel like I don't know. I
feel like I don't know. I don't

432
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,640
know what the next thing is.
I just don't. Yeah, and look,

433
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:41,039
if the three of us knew what
the next thing was, we'd be

434
00:30:41,079 --> 00:30:44,240
billionaires at this point, like because
we'd start prepping it. Not at this

435
00:30:44,279 --> 00:30:47,160
point, probably five years from now, start prepping it, figuring it out,

436
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:48,680
how to get into the algorithm.
I don't know that anybody knows.

437
00:30:48,799 --> 00:30:52,440
And I think it really depends on
where the culture goes. I think he's

438
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:59,480
going to make a comeback, makes
it come back. But you know what,

439
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,079
you can hope all you want.
But the issue is we're not allowed

440
00:31:03,119 --> 00:31:08,160
to be now. But you say
not allowed. Are you talking mainstream then,

441
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:15,559
because it seems like it seems like
the influence of mainstream is really being

442
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:19,119
leveled out by all the independent content. Yeah. I post myself on Twitter

443
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:25,119
all the time. Oh do you
see pissing on Twitter constantly. I can't.

444
00:31:25,319 --> 00:31:29,000
There's no p on only fans.
Oh okay, I didn't know that

445
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:34,880
one. Only squirt, which is
most of the time I don't, I

446
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:40,880
actually squirt, but I don't like
like I mean, I'm not. I'm

447
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:45,799
like someone fingers me and there's some
squirt that comes out and it's actually like

448
00:31:45,839 --> 00:31:49,200
a clear fluid. So I don't. I'm not familiar with like I could

449
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:55,599
test it. It's all the same. But I mean, do they allow

450
00:31:56,160 --> 00:32:00,920
hiss on many vents, yes,
but you can't consume it. That's the

451
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:06,079
thing. It's like they they have
that one stipulation where you can have you

452
00:32:06,079 --> 00:32:09,319
can show people peeing and it can
say pee, but if they if you

453
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:15,160
imply or or show like consumption like
a human being swallowing it, that's not

454
00:32:15,279 --> 00:32:20,920
allowed on someone's face, which is
that was a huge one. Do you

455
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:25,079
remember that though, like laying down, like pissing in someone's mouth? What

456
00:32:25,279 --> 00:32:30,680
is it? Do you have a
term for it? Guess what? Oh?

457
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:38,680
I was muted? Sorry, piss
boarding like waterboarding boarding? Oh my

458
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:44,880
god, I just spat that.
I can't believe you didn't hear that.

459
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:50,119
So then maybe you're right, Maybe
that's not the next trend because I wasn't

460
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,000
aware of, you know, all
the limitations they put on. So you're

461
00:32:52,079 --> 00:32:55,240
right, man, So then where
do we go? I sure hope it's

462
00:32:55,240 --> 00:33:00,519
not farts. Yeah, that's not
my thing. That's so it is a

463
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:04,640
thing though, because I wanted to
do yeah, this is actually, this

464
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,920
is yeah, this is gonna.
I know, I feel like I'm very

465
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,799
maybe a little bit reserved and a
little bit of a dry sense of humor.

466
00:33:10,839 --> 00:33:13,880
But so I showed up. This
was a long time ago. I

467
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,480
showed up too, because I did
a lot of fetish as I was getting

468
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:21,640
into foreign I showed up for a
face sitting video and I just randomly had

469
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:25,079
a fart machine with me because I
thought it'd be really funny, like as

470
00:33:25,279 --> 00:33:30,359
like Keana was sitting on someone's face
to be like hit the fart button so

471
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:35,519
um, and they're like, that's
fucking great, we should use that.

472
00:33:36,599 --> 00:33:39,960
So we did this fake farty and
it was like this best seller. Oh

473
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:44,920
okay, wow, yeah, so
you use the farm machine on set?

474
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:46,960
Why not just put them in?
They had the fart machine while we were

475
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:50,680
face sitting. They would press the
buttons and then we'd have to be like,

476
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:52,559
oh, yeah, take that fucking
fart. Okay, you know how

477
00:33:52,599 --> 00:33:57,759
hard it is to not laugh?
No, I know, I couldn't.

478
00:33:57,759 --> 00:34:00,720
I couldn't do it now, Like
for me, I brought that things.

479
00:34:00,799 --> 00:34:02,920
I thought it was funny and then
they're like and I'm like, oh,

480
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:09,559
yeah, it was really difficult.
Here you go be sexy about Oh my

481
00:34:09,639 --> 00:34:15,519
god, Tonya Danielle, Keana and
I and Tony was like, I mean

482
00:34:15,599 --> 00:34:19,920
she was fucking full throttle. She
was awesome. I had so many beans

483
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:24,280
for Lyne to take that fucking bart
and I was like, um, yeah,

484
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:28,000
I've done. You've done a lot
of scenes with Keana Dior, right,

485
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,360
is she one of your better friends
in the industry. Yeah, well,

486
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:35,960
we came from Canada together, so
that year attacking older stuff we started.

487
00:34:36,079 --> 00:34:39,000
We done a ton of stuff earlier
on, but we haven't done a

488
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:43,719
lot lately. We've done a couple
of things for our only fans. Okay,

489
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:45,679
all right, yeah, I'm a
big fan of hers. Um it's

490
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:50,039
so rad. Yeah, yeah,
I mean that was just that was my

491
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,719
era. The first interview we ever
did, actually, well, first interview

492
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:57,519
we did was with Dan Dan Ferrari
and Suzanne Ferrari, who are great,

493
00:34:57,519 --> 00:35:01,599
they run slood inspection dot com.
But the first like Hornstar porn star interview

494
00:35:01,599 --> 00:35:06,239
we did, which is blows my
fucking mind that we were able to get

495
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,119
her as our first one was the
first one Gauge Do you remember gauge back?

496
00:35:09,639 --> 00:35:16,000
She talk about sporting gauge man.
Yeah, she's a little spinner.

497
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:21,039
Yeah. And it's funny. I'm
in contact with all these people from that

498
00:35:21,159 --> 00:35:23,880
era and I just can't convince them
to go over the hump and come on,

499
00:35:24,039 --> 00:35:29,599
like Lisa Sparks is one, and
you know again I do. I

500
00:35:29,639 --> 00:35:32,400
think that was the golden era.
It was when the Internet was becoming really

501
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:36,400
more prevalent, you know, they
were able to push stuff out, more

502
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,920
content. Was that business wise?
Am I right in calling that the Golden

503
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:43,519
era? Like obviously now is very
good as well, and it puts more

504
00:35:43,519 --> 00:35:46,800
power in her hands. But up
up until that point was that just as

505
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:52,480
there wasn't everybody creating content, there
was Like it was when they say the

506
00:35:52,559 --> 00:35:54,719
Golden Era, it's always like remember
when, So I think what people mean

507
00:35:54,800 --> 00:36:00,559
is remember when, and no disrespect
to someone with the lab but it's like

508
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:04,920
people say, remember when porn stars
were porn stars and it's not that they

509
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:08,599
aren't now because certainly when you go
to Avien, Angela White has a fucking

510
00:36:08,679 --> 00:36:13,920
line, you know, you can't
even see it at the end. So

511
00:36:14,119 --> 00:36:20,159
it still exists. But back then
there were only us that went and then

512
00:36:20,199 --> 00:36:22,280
we were in the movies and people
came and we signed it the show and

513
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:28,639
there was a big line, and
there wasn't there wasn't anybody else, right,

514
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:34,039
there weren't any There wasn't cam girls, and they wasn't anyone creating content

515
00:36:34,159 --> 00:36:38,079
or anything else. So maybe we
had just you know, monopolized the market.

516
00:36:38,199 --> 00:36:42,400
I don't know, it was there
was less people. And also too,

517
00:36:42,519 --> 00:36:45,480
like we've opened up as a society. So back then it's like,

518
00:36:45,679 --> 00:36:46,960
oh god, you're a porn star
and it's like, fuck, yeah,

519
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:50,960
I am, and you have to
own that and get into that vibe of

520
00:36:51,079 --> 00:36:54,119
being okay with it. But not
everybody could do that. Now it's willing

521
00:36:54,199 --> 00:37:00,159
more accepted girls. I feel like
there's so many girls getting in when or

522
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:06,280
younger and and actually handling it well, like old souls like I coach to

523
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:09,199
set and there's a lot of young
girls and it's like I normally, like

524
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:12,679
back in the day, I would
have worried about girls and now they're like

525
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:19,960
pretty like balanced and and good with
what they're doing. And I don't like

526
00:37:20,079 --> 00:37:22,159
I'm not concerned about them, you
know, like they're like, yeah,

527
00:37:22,199 --> 00:37:25,039
this is what I'm doing, I'm
sexually open, I'm bisexual, whatever it

528
00:37:25,199 --> 00:37:29,599
is, or you know, and
they feel really good with their life choice.

529
00:37:29,639 --> 00:37:30,440
It's not like, oh God,
or you show this, It's okay

530
00:37:30,519 --> 00:37:32,800
for you. You're going to fund
your life up and now have like a

531
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:40,079
pornt of meltdown any or these girls
now they're like solid and so yeah,

532
00:37:40,119 --> 00:37:45,239
there's just a lot more people in
the industry doing a lot of different things.

533
00:37:45,599 --> 00:37:49,320
So it's not just this like you've
got to go to this place to

534
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:53,239
see the porn star, like like
the DVD store or the show and it's

535
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:59,480
this big deal. There's just a
lot more content creators and people shooting,

536
00:37:59,559 --> 00:38:04,480
and it is a lot more empowering
and there's a lot more money for all

537
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,760
the girls. But the whole horn
star thing is a little more saturated.

538
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:13,159
I think, um we recently spoke
to someone about that. It's it's almost

539
00:38:13,159 --> 00:38:16,360
like the same with Hollywood too,
where like you didn't know what Jack Nicholson

540
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:22,039
was doing in eighty five, but
now Ryan Reynolds tweets every day and everything

541
00:38:22,079 --> 00:38:29,639
else. It is accessibility. I
wonder how it's it's both accessibility, Yeah,

542
00:38:29,679 --> 00:38:34,920
I wonder it's both probably helped your
folks as brand or being able to

543
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:38,199
sell, but it's also and this
isn't necessarily a bad thing, it's also

544
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:43,320
taking some of the mystique away from
you guys. Right, it's another great

545
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,519
word. Yeah, try the accessibility
and the mystique. And that's the push

546
00:38:46,599 --> 00:38:52,039
pull, right, It's like,
yeah, it wasn't it's it's not such

547
00:38:52,079 --> 00:38:55,000
a big deal anymore or not saying
it's like when your fans saw you in

548
00:38:55,039 --> 00:38:58,599
the street, they wouldn't be like, oh my god, wow. But

549
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:05,559
it's yeah, it's like it's not
everybody's creating content. Everyone's on only fans.

550
00:39:05,559 --> 00:39:08,960
Like it's kind of level the playing
field, whateveryone on an equal level,

551
00:39:09,119 --> 00:39:13,639
and some of the stigma's gone now. Leveling the paint playing field is

552
00:39:13,679 --> 00:39:15,760
great, But I wonder if some
of the people who were in the industry

553
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:21,239
longer feels like it kind of takes
away from you know, you put in

554
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:25,199
the hard work. Again, all
of us are I think all four anyone

555
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:28,920
being able to create any amount of
content. But do you sometimes look at

556
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:30,960
these girls who have, you know, pulling one hundred grand a month or

557
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:34,880
something on they're only fans, and
you're just kind of like, fuck,

558
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,800
that girl didn't put in the hard
work. I put in the hard work.

559
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:42,480
Do you ever feel that way?
Or now all positive vibes negative monster

560
00:39:42,599 --> 00:39:45,840
by the way, so I feel
more like motherfucker. I'm like, you

561
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:51,039
figured out the beginning of covid and
your only fans and I didn't. Yeah,

562
00:39:51,119 --> 00:39:53,320
I wait until they shut all my
businesses down and went fuck, now

563
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:59,719
what do I do? The first
time I attempted to do a podcast before

564
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:04,159
I hooked up with my friend Shane
here, Joe Rogan was on episode thirty

565
00:40:04,199 --> 00:40:08,519
seven, so I could have really
gotten in on the ground floor of the

566
00:40:08,559 --> 00:40:13,800
podcasting thing. Now we're just catching
up, So that's good, that's great.

567
00:40:14,079 --> 00:40:17,199
I'm sights here. I also was
buying bitcoin at one hundred dollars a

568
00:40:17,199 --> 00:40:22,199
coin and then selling it at a
thousand, So I've always been early on

569
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,559
stuff and then fucked myself before it
really metabolizes, which is why I'm trying

570
00:40:25,559 --> 00:40:30,960
to find the next goddamn trend for
the next goddamn decade. What it's gonna

571
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:35,280
be. It's not piss. Stop
saying it's piss. Well I don't know.

572
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,920
Yeah, well he's just saying spiss. He likes piss. Yeah,

573
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:42,000
that sitcoin. I mean, do
you have any I mean, I have

574
00:40:42,119 --> 00:40:45,440
someone that trades for me, and
I try to watch it a little bit

575
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:50,519
like I have someone that leverages for
me, and I mean, I don't

576
00:40:50,519 --> 00:40:52,760
know. Man, it's so volatile, but it's fun, right, as

577
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:57,880
long as you're not over extending,
it's all fun. And that was part

578
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,480
of the problem with the pandemic is
that people were looking for fun. That

579
00:41:00,519 --> 00:41:04,679
was with the robin Hood trading,
which I had robin Hood a couple of

580
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:09,639
years before the pandemic started. I
was I just see something and I go,

581
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:13,840
hey, there's a utility for that. And there is a utility for

582
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,760
bitcoin. The problem comes in watch
Shane fall asleep. Just google some piss

583
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:25,880
porn chain. The problem with bitcoin
is that it is the ultimate fight against

584
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:30,039
the government being able to print money, and at the same time, the

585
00:41:30,119 --> 00:41:34,960
government does have the ability to an
extent, to put a boot on its

586
00:41:35,039 --> 00:41:37,480
neck at any point at once.
It can shut down exchanges, it can

587
00:41:37,519 --> 00:41:40,679
do whatever. People will say,
Yeah, but the great thing is Matt

588
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:45,880
can take his computer over to Shay's
house and trade a bitcoin for Fiat,

589
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,960
like I can type it and send
it over to you and everything like that,

590
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:52,360
and it's like great. But if
stores aren't accepting it, and if

591
00:41:52,159 --> 00:41:55,159
hard dealerships aren't accepting it, and
you can't do this and that, then

592
00:41:55,159 --> 00:42:00,199
what is the actual cash out and
put it in your bank account? If

593
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:06,039
even if you said I'm going to
trade it on you know, whatever platform

594
00:42:06,039 --> 00:42:07,519
I'm going to trade it on,
and then I'm going to still sell it

595
00:42:07,639 --> 00:42:12,800
by it do all these things,
then at what point do you say,

596
00:42:13,159 --> 00:42:15,639
like, then what do you do
with it? If you're an American citizen,

597
00:42:15,679 --> 00:42:20,280
you can't put in your bank right
right? Again? The government has

598
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:23,559
the full ability. Wow, we
are we we talked about family and politics

599
00:42:23,599 --> 00:42:27,519
today, folks. Um, the
government, regardless of who's in office,

600
00:42:27,519 --> 00:42:30,360
has the full ability to put the
back is politics? Oh I don't care.

601
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:34,719
I was going down politics just in
the sense that I like the idea

602
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:39,639
of bitcoin. I just worry that
if the government, whatever government, I

603
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:43,639
feel like when I when people say
politics and then this day and age,

604
00:42:43,679 --> 00:42:45,920
I'm always like, oh God,
let's not fight. No no, no,

605
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:49,840
no. But but this doesn't feel
politic you at all. This feels

606
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:53,599
like intelligently financial. Okay, all
right. I think it's always smart to

607
00:42:53,639 --> 00:43:00,000
have a little bit of everything because
you never know what's going to absolutely absolutely

608
00:43:00,079 --> 00:43:05,159
am I'm a real estate person,
like I've rentals and airbnbs and stuff,

609
00:43:05,199 --> 00:43:09,639
but I'm a little bitcoin I have
enough bitcoin that like, if something happened,

610
00:43:09,679 --> 00:43:14,440
it wouldn't be a big deal,
but if something happened positively, you

611
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:17,199
could make something out of it.
Yeah, and I have always have someone

612
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:21,320
with someone trading and leveraging it.
But I don't have money in the stock

613
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:24,159
market anymore. Sure, I'm mostly
in cash, but I have a little

614
00:43:24,199 --> 00:43:29,639
bit of tech stuff because there are
certain companies. I just Amazon is a

615
00:43:29,679 --> 00:43:32,840
company I look at and I go
I use Amazon almost every day. Yeah,

616
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:37,199
I want to see something, sure, but I do. I get

617
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:40,199
what you're saying, and whether it's
what the guy who trades for me says,

618
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:45,039
is he's like, whether it's bitcoin
or tea or that's the next thing.

619
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:53,880
The way society is now is that
they want something someone can't control,

620
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:59,360
right, right, which is what
you kind of just said. Yeah,

621
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:05,079
yeah, but they can't. Again, the fear is that they can block

622
00:44:05,199 --> 00:44:08,840
the means for you to be able
to use it. So again, bitcoin

623
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:12,440
will never go away in the sense
that I can go to your house and

624
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:15,559
I can send you some bitcoin and
you can trade me something perhaps like piss

625
00:44:15,599 --> 00:44:24,159
pornography in kind for that, but
they block pegging. Pegging point, yes,

626
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:29,400
you know, he would take the
piss, I'll take the pay.

627
00:44:29,559 --> 00:44:31,400
Well, I would sell it to
him for fiat currency, So that's what

628
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:37,360
I would probably do. But um, you know, the fear is that

629
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,880
now you are holding something that you
can only trade with other bitcoin people.

630
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:45,079
You always want to be able to
cash it out, and if the government

631
00:44:45,159 --> 00:44:47,960
saw it as too big of a
threat, they could then put their boot

632
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:52,840
on the neck of coin base or
whoever else you would use to cash it

633
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,760
out to a money that you would
use. The best thing for bitcoin would

634
00:44:55,800 --> 00:45:00,599
be is if companies start integrating it, which is to to do with the

635
00:45:00,679 --> 00:45:04,960
volatility of it. If they started
integrating it so you could pay for things

636
00:45:05,079 --> 00:45:08,480
with cryptogray. Didn't they start that, Like didn't moneygrams start doing one.

637
00:45:08,639 --> 00:45:13,960
They started to when bitcoin was around
sixty thousand. Now that it's sitting around

638
00:45:14,039 --> 00:45:16,719
thirty thousand, they're a little less
because if they're not cashing, if they're

639
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:21,840
actually holding any of it, you've
lost half of your value, you know.

640
00:45:22,679 --> 00:45:24,079
And then there was like that whole
thing about I know, there's that

641
00:45:24,119 --> 00:45:28,159
big lawsuit. We're going way down
the rabbit hole with the XLM and all

642
00:45:28,159 --> 00:45:30,880
that the XLM and all that stuff
and them actually having like a bank because

643
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:36,239
the banks at some point they were
saying that they want to have a way

644
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,079
and sort of like the wire and
the old school way of doing things,

645
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:45,320
like to actually fucking send money through
a cryptocurrency would benefit the banks and everybody

646
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,639
to be able to do that.
It's sort of the next big technological advance

647
00:45:47,679 --> 00:45:52,239
of the banking system. So what
currency are they going to use? Right?

648
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:58,199
XRP has a lawsuit in XLM is
they were talking about it. Well,

649
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:02,519
just keep your eyes open for central
bank digital currency going forward. That's

650
00:46:02,559 --> 00:46:07,199
gonna be one. There is gonna
be one though, because it's smart what

651
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:10,599
I mean, they decide it is
is gonna be the one. Right,

652
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:15,440
Oh boy, I am going to
take you down just a two second real

653
00:46:15,559 --> 00:46:19,800
political rabbit hole, okay, And
you do not have to state your opinion

654
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,239
whatsoever, because I don't want to
political because I'm not no no, no,

655
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:27,960
no, no no. My My
answer is gonna um is gonna come

656
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:31,000
political. No either way, I'm
not gonna give my opinion on it.

657
00:46:31,039 --> 00:46:39,079
But um during Okay, you're Canadian. Remember the trucker strike, the convoy

658
00:46:39,159 --> 00:46:43,840
thing, COVID They didn't want to
get there. I've been I've been down

659
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:45,360
and I have you a citizenship.
I've been here a long time. No

660
00:46:45,519 --> 00:46:47,360
oh no, But I just mean
if it came up in the mind.

661
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:51,840
I also don't watch the news.
If that was big stupid. I don't

662
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:53,480
watch the news because it makes me
cry. No, it's okay. So

663
00:46:53,559 --> 00:47:01,199
what Trudeau was doing was actually uh
suspending bank accounts during that time of people

664
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:04,920
who didn't want to give vaccinate,
didn't want to do whatever. Again,

665
00:47:05,119 --> 00:47:08,599
whatever anyone's opinion is doesn't matter to
me. But the idea that if you

666
00:47:08,679 --> 00:47:14,159
had a digital currency that was controlled
by the government, and say you used

667
00:47:14,199 --> 00:47:17,719
your share of carbon emissions this month, so what we're gonna do is pause

668
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:22,920
your ability to spend your money.
Or if you were going through red lights

669
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:27,960
six times and no police officer caught
you, but a camera did, and

670
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:32,800
the fine could just be assessed to
your central bank. Digital currency that is

671
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:37,639
full government control. And that's what's
a little bit scarier than something like Bitcoin

672
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:42,519
or ethereum, which by the way, are the only two I would recommend

673
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:46,159
because ethereum has a use and bitcoin
is the band Aid or the Google of

674
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:50,639
cryptocurrency. So I have right now, I'm learned to get kind of like

675
00:47:50,679 --> 00:47:53,320
a black cellm but only just a
teenage just a mess with it. You

676
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:57,239
never know what's gonna pop. You
just you know, diversify that. But

677
00:47:57,639 --> 00:48:01,599
the idea of anyone having control of
your money is to me, the opposite

678
00:48:01,599 --> 00:48:06,719
of what cryptocurrency should be. So
if the government, any government throughout the

679
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:10,679
world, is running their own cryptocurrency, I'm not interested personally. Yeah.

680
00:48:12,079 --> 00:48:15,039
Sure. So anyway, when you
were who was your favorite performer to shoot

681
00:48:15,079 --> 00:48:19,920
with back in the early two thousands
besides Keona dew York, I won't always

682
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,880
ask me that, And it's like
everyone has something to offer and depends on

683
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:25,960
the day of the week, Like
I mean, you know, like how

684
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:30,039
do I Everyone's got different fun things, you know, I think, and

685
00:48:30,079 --> 00:48:34,360
I would never say who was on
my no list, But it's more like,

686
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:37,880
who's your no list? Those are
the people I definitely don't want to

687
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:42,760
shoot with. But everybody else like, oh, it's this person that'll be

688
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:45,880
cool because of X, and this
person's today and that'll be wold, she's

689
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:49,679
fucking wild, that'll be cool.
Like I mean, I don't. I

690
00:48:49,679 --> 00:48:53,760
don't really had like total favorites,
you know, makes sense? Is there

691
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:59,239
any Is there anybody in today's industry
that you have yet to shoot with that

692
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:04,320
you'd be interested been shooting with?
Oh? Fuck yeah. So I all

693
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:07,639
the time we get told that Reagan
Fox and I And this is a funny

694
00:49:07,679 --> 00:49:10,280
story. So I went to AVN
maybe like four years ago before COVID just

695
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:14,719
to go say hi this some people
and everyone's like, you looks like Reagan

696
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:15,840
Fox. And that's where I had
one of those moments where you were like,

697
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:19,400
wait a second, I put this
on. I'm like, I look

698
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:22,400
like Reagan Fox. I've never heard
of Reagan Fox. I mean. And

699
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:24,639
then I was like very humbled because
I'd been gone for ten years and come

700
00:49:24,679 --> 00:49:29,960
to find out she's like pretty popular
and done a lot of stuff, and

701
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:31,679
and so she comes running up.
It's like hi, and we met and

702
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:36,800
we became very good friends. We've
still not shot together to this day,

703
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:43,159
but people still come up to us
like directors and agents and mistakes for each

704
00:49:43,159 --> 00:49:46,239
other. We constantly get people posting
on Twitter pictures of each other. We

705
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:52,559
don't think we look drastically alike,
but everybody else's they're like, you should

706
00:49:52,559 --> 00:49:55,199
be sisters, which, of course
right now is huge. Right, So

707
00:49:55,679 --> 00:50:00,440
I'm really looking forward to shooting some
stuff with right again, Oh, I've

708
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:07,320
got the scene. We can incorporate
all of the incest taboo stuff. You

709
00:50:07,599 --> 00:50:14,039
are both taking your college sons to
school and your sisters, and then the

710
00:50:14,119 --> 00:50:17,199
sons then fuck the ants. How
does that work? Yeah? Oh,

711
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:23,559
there's so much really really cool,
like super creepy, like because her and

712
00:50:23,639 --> 00:50:28,000
I are both pretty good but the
step mommy talk at this point, so

713
00:50:28,039 --> 00:50:31,679
she's got some pretty cool script ideas
and we're we're we're excited. We've been

714
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:36,599
talking to a few people about it. I don't know where it's gonna go

715
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:38,880
or how it's gonna work out,
but that's that's what I'm really excited about.

716
00:50:39,639 --> 00:50:43,480
Fair enough. Yeah, so that's
where the devil horns pop out.

717
00:50:43,519 --> 00:50:45,239
Right, It's like, oh,
that'll be creepy. What can we do

718
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:52,679
with that. It's it's never It's
never been my thing. But I totally

719
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:55,320
understand, and you know, I
get it. Especially I like when they

720
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:59,880
really emphasize it's like step, it's
step, just so you all know it's

721
00:51:00,079 --> 00:51:04,639
deep. Well, that's a legality, is it really? It's compliance?

722
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:07,960
Yeah. Yeah, you gotta say
step and you've got to establish age,

723
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:14,320
which you're well versed on because we've
done it on this show. So imagine,

724
00:51:14,559 --> 00:51:16,840
imagine you forget to say step one
time and then the government hits your

725
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:22,559
central bank digital currency for a nice
little fine. That's the problem. That's

726
00:51:22,559 --> 00:51:24,199
where I'm really happy that I got
paid for the scene and it's not my

727
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:29,360
company. There you go. Um
Shane, any final questions for Shae here?

728
00:51:30,559 --> 00:51:32,679
Um No, she answered my favorite
one. I'm glad she would piss

729
00:51:32,679 --> 00:51:38,760
board me. Thanks good. I
pissboard this ship out of you. I

730
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:43,960
won't be piss boarded, but I
will piss board you. I think that's

731
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:46,679
the best answer I've ever gotten on
this show. Thank you for that,

732
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:52,400
chick. I think I'm a solid
pisser too. Sure. Sure, drink

733
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:53,719
a lot of water, I assume
see. I like to eat a lot

734
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:59,760
of asparagus and drink coffee, so
yeah, yeah, it comes out like

735
00:52:00,039 --> 00:52:05,280
Ellie sometimes, so you know,
oh wow, I have your doctor looking

736
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:09,400
outs. That guy's a quack.
Uh. Ladies and gentlemen, we had

737
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:14,239
on Shay sites today. One of
my favorites of all time from the Golden

738
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:19,159
age and still crushing it nowadays.
Make sure you check out all of her

739
00:52:19,199 --> 00:52:23,559
stuff on Twitter at Shay Underscore sites, on Instagram, at Shay site's official

740
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:29,000
and on only fans at Shay Underscore
sites. All those links are going to

741
00:52:29,039 --> 00:52:31,599
be in the episode description. Um, she's been wonderful to talk today,

742
00:52:31,639 --> 00:52:36,199
a lot of fun. She's a
great talker, which I can just imagine

743
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:39,079
what the dirty talk is like because
that's something I like. You know,

744
00:52:39,639 --> 00:52:45,079
Um, wonderful Shay. Thank you
very much for coming on today. Thank

745
00:52:45,119 --> 00:52:47,239
you guys so much for having me
for your worst friend. I'm Matt,

746
00:52:47,679 --> 00:53:00,440
I'm Shane. See you next week. Thanks for listening to your worst friend Deeper
