Hi, and welcome back to the nonprofits. So this article comes from us
from political It was written by by Juan Perez Junior and Jason Atterbury on August
third, twenty twenty three, and the title of the article is that Florida
bands sexuality lessons. Now I have plenty to say about this, as a
resident of Florida, kind of sick of all the things that are happening here
in my state. But before I give all my wonderful, nuanced, deep
opinions on what the freak is going on in Florida, in the state that
I live in, the Satans butthole of my existence, I'm going to pass
it on to my friend Phoebe and so I can get the British perspective of
my existence living in Satan's butthole. So I've holidayed in Florida since they passed
all this legislation, I must be absolutely boulders. But I'm not quite sure
what was expected as the long term consequences. Well, precisely, I was
in Orlando. I went to the Ready Creek Improvement District. It was linear
tickets say Satan's butth hall on it. No, it's an experimental prototype city
of tomorrow, all right, and it was signed personally by someone who supported
the Nazis. But yes, getting back to the topic at hand, I'm
not quite sure what these people thought was going to hip hop, what they
thought the long term consequences of this legislation that they passed that said don't say
gay. Yes, okay, it only applied as cars. The legislation said
to k through third grade. But that's not where they're stopping. They have
gone further with their attacks on trans children and trans adult healthcare, and they
keep ongoing. But what they are doing in Florida is going against the Grain
and Morton society, and that is what woke actually is. Woke is a
complaint that they are to stop the world. We want to get off people.
It's spinning too fast. I need to get off. The moon is
somewhere around here, and you know what, I don't like it. I
need to get off. But there is something that wasn't in this article.
They may have banned ap psychology, but they've also banned Shakespeare. Complete readings
of Shakespearean texts in Florida schools by a Florida school board district is not allowed
because it's too sexual. We can't have Shakespeare. No, he's too sexual.
We can't discuss all these nineteen so these sixteen hundreds things. Oh no,
no, no, we can't do that. Shakespeare. He's off the
table. So Ben, do you like reading your sexy Shakespeare at night?
Or are you more of you know, an EPCOT person. Oh I do.
I do love some sexy Shakespeare. You know that actually is somebody has
Halloween cast him or lope or something like someone cars players sexy Shakespeare. Maybe
I'll do that for Halloween. Thank you, like you love Summis, spent
summer extream a glass of wine, you know, some Marvel gay on the
stereo. But yeah, this whole thing with Florida, I mean, we've
seen several pieces of legislation coming down like from Florida and the it's all very
idiocracy esque because you think about all the things going on in the world and
the thing that Florida has the biggest problem with is education. So many things
like they're trying to block children from being educated, and we saw this.
I think the last time I was on nonprofits was a while ago, but
I think at that time we were talking about their banning of ap African American
history, and so they've kept doing this, and it's interesting that they're opposing
people, you know, as Phoebe was saying, like furthering society, getting
skills to operate as human in a modern society. But we kind of know
why they're doing this. I mean, uneducated communities are a source of power
for these people in charge, and they know that they know that their ideas
don't stand up to scrutiny. But how can you get away with really bad
ideas and not get called out on it. Well, you have your people
not able to call you out on it because they just don't know that you're
wrong. And so this is kind of the thing we got with Richard Dawkins
too, is is you have somebody that has such a huge ego and the
need to be right in the need to have authority on things that they would
rather dumb down the people they're talking to and have them not be educated than
actually do the work to gain knowledge on certain subjects. And it's just wild
to me. I mean, like, I think all of us here value
education, Like the majority of the country is advocating for more funding for schools,
better education for all communities. And then Florida's just taking the opposite direction
and just saying, you know what, that school stuff, we don't need
it. So Scott, what do you think? I agree? I mean,
it's just it's just damaging their whole educational concept there down in Florida.
I mean, it's as an educator and a parent and an American, this
this whole idea just repulsed me. I mean, we have the governor who's
taking away valuable educational content. We have clipping the wings of the broad diversity
of human experience. I mean, how much do we have to learn from
people who are different than us. I mean, it's just boggles the mind
that, you know, how much we don't actually know about the human experience
because we always see it through this little, narrow, little slit of our
own of our own mind. And so we're we're we're setting aside valuable information
and additional perspective. And you know the worst thing here is that call me
cynical, but I have to suspect that this is just a PR stunt.
I mean it has to be. I mean it could be. I'm not
saying it has to be. It could be just a PR stunt to get
back in the news too. I mean, you know, he's running for
for an office and so needs to get needs to get a name in the
news, need to get needs to rile up the base, rile up the
voters. And I wonder if this could be a desperate plea for support.
It's we're damaging the students in this case. This ap psychology course is very
popular course because it satisfies requirements for their high school graduation and and for many
many college majors as well, and so it's a it's a it's an excellent
opportunity for students to get a leg up as they as they're progressing in their
in their in their educational system. And so when you when you limit those
and this is also happening weeks before the semester starts, weeks before the new
school year starts, and so families can can plan out their their path years
in advance. And so if they're counting on having this class available, it's
very very damaging to what the students. And this doesn't even touch we haven't
even touched on the effect that the content change itself is going to have an
effect on students whose identities are being in question, who are being threatened,
who are being attacked at okay, and so it's really vindictive and shortstated.
It's a bigoted decision, and it's going to ultimately damage the reputation of Florida's
schools, and it's going to limit the opportunities for Florida Florida's students. Phoebe,
what's next year? So I just wanted to say that this is something
that was seen a minor way, and I don't think that this is headline
grabbing. I don't think it's anything other than genuine fear of what's going on
here. It's genuine scaredness. And I went to school in a country during
a time when there was something called Section twenty eight, which banned the promotion
of homosexuality as a pretend family relationship in all schools that were given government funding.
And that is something that got me thinking. So I went to school
in an era where this was commonlis, where you couldn't talk about lgbtqubition.
And I've got a question, would you be comfortable going to school in Florida
today? No? I love here, No, absolutely not. I'm glad
my kids are one that is heading into graduate school and I have another one
that joined the Army, and I am so glad that they're not being infected
with all the crap that's happening in my state, because the reality of it
is that we and a lot of courses health class, science classes, you
know, psychology courses, anything like that, they cannot discuss sexuality or gender
as a scientific topic. And that is a problem. And I think that
you know, the Florida school boards just think that, well, if we
don't teach these things, maybe you know, they'll weigh if that's how it
works. And we all know that's never how it works. And I do
want to point out that you can still take ap psychology and all the other
classes that I just name can still be taught, but you can't talk about
gender, sexuality, or people of different rays, all these different things.
And I find that very frustrating because we are a diverse population in the United
States and these things need to be taught, especially in a scientific way,
in a way that shows that these are things that just what human beings are
and what they do, and giving kids the education to understand that in the
context so they understand it as like, oh, this is something that happened,
and what's happening is like for example, with this ap psychologe Bours,
this is an upper level of class that's going to be on it as a
college credit. This is as Good pointing out, it's going to have a
long term effect on a lot of students for them to get into top universities,
either nationally or internationally, because they're looking for that broad spectrum of education
people are getting within that. There's a lot of rhetoric of parents choice happening
in my state. But they're not talking to queer parents, they're not talking
to people of colors parents. They're not talking to parents of kids that have
disabilities, the diverse you know, array of parents and students that live in
my state. They're doing white, straight, conservative parents. And that is
the rhetoric that is being promoted within the state. And also too as also
Scott pointing out that now parents and teachers are now scrambling just a few weeks
before school started this week, students went back this week, and when this
comes out, now they have the scramble and figure out again how they're going
to teach this certain subject. And it gets very frustrating because I pay taxes
in this state, and I would like my taxes to go to an even
education. But nope, it goes to this bullshit that I exist in living
in, says asshole. And I went on a rant like I usually do
on this show. So then and and and then I'm gonna give a tea
and my friend, I mean it yours, please talk. I mean,
simple answer. Would I want to be in school in Florida? Or would
I allow myself to be in school in Florida? The answer is no,
No, I would not. This is a case I would probably if I
was a parent in this situation, I probably would homeschool my kid. I
probably would find a way to homeschool if I couldn't move to a different state.
But if I had no option, and if I was like in a
household with both working parents and needed to send my kid to school and I
was in Florida, I would probably find ways to educate them outside of school.
But the fact is that with so many subjects being like removed from the
school, like kind of what are you left with, You're you're then having
to correct more than they're probably being taught in the school. So that's kind
of a case where homeschooling is probably valid, although not everybody can do that.
Scott, what are your final thoughts on that. Yeah, I think
that some kind of supplementation is going to have to happen here. You know,
College Board, the organization that runs the AP tests, have these restrictions
and guidelines on what you can do, what do you have to do to
take the court or to take the exam. And so what's happening in Florida
then, is the Department of Education is saying, or Governor de Santis was
saying, you you can't teach these particular lessons about gender identity, about sexual
orientation, that kind of thing, and so he's saying, we can't.
We can't teach that. Everything else was okay, and so that's what they're
saying. Oh, we're not banning the class, We're just saying you have
to amend it this way. But really, but effectively they're banning the course.
I think I think if there can be some kind of supplementation. Of
course, homeschooling is always an option, but it might just be something as
simple as some kind of supplement that students can take outside the context of the
school of the public school and maybe they could use that to qualify for the
test. Or I think there's an interesting opportunity here for the for the colleges
and universities in Florida to kind of pick up the slack. Here in Minnesota,
we have this program called post secondary Enrollment Option. I checked. Florida
has a similar thing. They call it dual enrollment where students can take college
courses and they would count towards their high school graduation and for for you know,
they'd be transfer college credits. Now, the thing with that, at
least in Minnesota, is that and I work at a community college, so
I'm seeing students from the college perspective. Here, I have to treat that
student as a college student. The restrictions on K twelve education do not apply.
In fact, I'm even forbidden from talking to the parents of the students
unless they give written, written permission. And so there is a distinction here
to be seeing the law affects K twelve education. So there might be an
end around that can be done here, at least until a better solution is
reached. But I've been talking enough here. Let's see, Helen, what
what are your last thoughts on this? So to on the duel A Roman
my oldest at that program, and it benefited them greatly because by the time
they got through their freshman and sophomore year high school, the school recognized that
they were needed to be challenged more and that helped them get the basic,
you know, beginner classes for what you would take in college under their belt
before they moved into moving into a four year program. And that's and I
am so glad that my child had the opportunity to do this, and I
would like to see that continue. It would be great. And I also
want to point out that we've been talking a lot about, you know,
all this crap that's going on, and what a lot of it, what
a lot of it has been happening in my state. We're viewing this problem
through a white conservative Christian base, but what's going on is affecting also black
concern It is within my state, queer conservatives within my state. This is
not just like you know, them pushing out the left going like you guys
are too woke, blah blah blah blah blah. It affects other people on
the other side as well. It's and I don't I don't know if the
state government is trying to shoot themselves in the foot, but it feels that
way. And I don't think over time that this is going to be a
good thing, because we do know that they are trying to push homeschooling programs
and charge schools which bring a profit, and a lot of this rhetoric can
come and a lot of people don't like that idea, and there's been there's
pushback against it as well, and hopefully I'm just I'm just saying as a
Florida resident that this will stop and we can go back to a more reasonable
ledge, you know, make something out of their lives and not feel this
pressure to conform into whatever ideology Florida's sighting that everybody has a live by.
So anyway, I'm done. We're going to move out of Florida now because
I'm done. Everybody moved on Florida, just get out. Well, all
I will say is all I'll say is that if you're a brit and you're
at a certain age, you'll recognize this phrase. Marry white House, eat
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