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Thank you for listening to Pictures Media
Radio. Welcome to Policy and Rights,

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the show about the government, policy
and human rights. Welcome back to Policy

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and Rates. Your in Depictions of
Media Radio, I'm your host, Michael

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Cloggs. Well, there's a lot
of issues happening in our world. Of

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course, we've been following massive exist
is from aberts around to our media.

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We've been following Central Africa and what
is happening there, and of course intense

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and continued fighting in Sudan with people
fleeing from Sudan to South Sudan and causing

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massive hunger issues. We've heard lots
about Haiti over over the years. Now

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with Haiti with after a couple of
disasters hitting that one island, and the

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funny part is is that you have
the Dominican Republic that exists on the same

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exact island as Haiti. Their community
is doing pretty okay and has recovered from

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earthquakes, disasters, in storms and
things that have hit that little island because

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it's not a very big island,
whereas Haiti has been stymied and stifled and

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stuck in some state of rebuilding.
In Haiti, it was was it was

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a nice place, you know,
pretty purely fairly decent economy and things like

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that. You know, happy people, very festive people. Two now where

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it's run by gangs and almost like
a warlord sort of states and things like

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that, and there's a lot of
oppression happening, and in there there's stemy

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state of rebuilding and trying to figure
out who what is going to their government

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is going to look like because of
collapses, and what does that look like

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for the United Nations and humanitarian efforts
to get through and help Haiti. Brazil

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has of course taken up the the
torch for Haiti and they want to help

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help them as best as best as
as our world can actually help them with

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what is happening. Along with that, we're going to hear some other issues

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from from around the world in in
a press briefing from the United Nations Press

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floor. But we're also going to
hear from Sudan, where there is a

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impending food crisis about to happen,
a massive hunger crisis because of people fleeing

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fighting and military actions that where they're
fleeing to in South Sudan is coming up

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short for food. So we're going
to hear from the World Food Program about

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what is happening from that. They
have a representative that's going to be there

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via zoom and she's gonna tell us
what's happening there in May what could be

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done to help the situation. Of
course, in many cases it does lead

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to leave this question and will say
this for final thoughts, how do you

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help a nation and a group of
people where the government becomes the roadblock of

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oppression? All right, a good
afternoon. In a short while, we

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will be joined by Mary Ellen mccorthy, who is you know, is the

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World Food Program's country director for South
Sudan, and she will brief you us

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today the World Food Program is warned
that a hunger emergency is looming on the

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border between South Sudan and Sudan.
Families continue to cross the border towards South

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Sudan every day because of the fighting
in Sudan. She will join us virtually

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from Juba, and as I mentioned
to you yesterday, Monica Greley will not

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be briefing you through the week.
And at one point thirty pm here they'll

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be a briefing by rim Al Salem, the Special Opperteur against Violence against Women

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and Girls, its causes, and
consequences, and she's here in New York

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to brief the Third Committee. Update
for you from our UN team in Armenia

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as they boost the support for the
government's response to address the influx of refugees.

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More than one hundred thousand people have
now crossed into Armenia, according to

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information received from the government. The
UN Development Program started renovating space for elderly

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persons. For its part, the
World Health Organization is also sending medicine to

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treat noncommunicable diseases, covering three months
of treatment for up to fifty thousand people.

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The UN Refugee Agency is providing technical
assistance to authorities for refugee registration,

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distributing court relief items, also conducting
protection monitoring in government run registration centers.

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Our team on the ground is also
focusing on much needed psychosocial support to refugees,

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including with the UN Development Program the
World Health Organization. The acting Resident

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Coordinator, Natalia Nachi Natschilveli stress that
behind each number is a child, a

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woman, a man, an elderly
person, a family who left everything behind

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urgently needed support. She reiterated the
UNS team determination to provide assistance. Quick

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update from our peacekeeping colleagues in the
Democratic Republic of the Congo. They tell

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us that the UN peacekeepers on the
ground have launched a joint operation with the

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Congo East Armed Forces against the armed
group known as Kodeco. The operation is

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taking place in the Jugu Territory in
the province of Iituri and comes in response

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to recent attacks against civilians and the
presence of CODECO members in the area,

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including most recently near the La La
camp for displaced persons, which is about

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nine kilometers southwest of Djugu excuse me
southeast of Jugu. On that occasion,

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peacekeepers were deployed. They fired warning
shots as they observe CODECO members approaching the

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site and for and forcing them to
withdraw. Peacekeepers are continuing to patrol the

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area to protect civilians and deter armed
groups, including physical protection for more than

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one hundred thousand men, women and
children who've been displaced through in four temporary

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bases in the Jugu territory. Update
to you from Syria. In a bit

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of good news but also underscoring the
dramatic health situation, the Office to the

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Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs says that the
first radiotherapy machine to treat cancer arrived in

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the Northwest over the weekend. This
comes on the heels of advocacy efforts led

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by the UN and our partners,
with the support of the Government of Turkeia.

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This is a monumental step for cancer
treatment in northwest Syria. Radiotherapy sessions

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are not available in local health facilities. Syrian cancer patients have been dependent on

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cross border referrals to Turkie and the
system was temporarily disrupted earlier this year due

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to the earthquake. The machine,
which can provide more than forty radiotherapy sessions

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a day, is now in the
largest hospital in Afrin. The hospital is

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making adjustments to meet the operational standards
and safety requirements of a radio therapy center.

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Once ready, the facility is expected
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one third of all cancer patients in
Northwest Syria. Turkish health authorities are also

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providing support for a year, with
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site and also training Syrian health workers. Just a flag that we need more

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support to expand access to local cancer
treatment services, including an Idlib governorate.

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Turning to Haiti, the Secretary General
of Course welcomes the adoption of yesterday's resolution,

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which, as you know, proved
the deployment of a non UN multi

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national security support mission. In a
statement issued after the vote, the head

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of the Political Mission in the country, Maria Isabel Salvador, says this is

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a positive and decisive step to bring
peace and stability to Haiti. The decision

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she had it comes after a request
by the Haitian government and echoed by the

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Secretary General, realizing that the country
will not emerge from the current security situation

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without strong international support from the Haitian
National Police. Yesterday's resolution did not approve

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a UN mission, but the Integrated
Office sorry, yesterday's resolution was not about

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the approval of a UN mission,
but the UN Integrated Office in Haiti said

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it will fully support the Multi National
Security Support Mission within the limits of its

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own mandate, of course, the
human rights due diligence policy and in full

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respect of the decisions taken by the
Haitian state. While awaiting the deployment of

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the mission, the UN will continue
to engage closely with Haitian authorities, in

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particular in support of the police,
the corrections and justice system and the electoral

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process and just For the record,
I do want to note that yesterday we

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issued a statement on behalf of the
Secretary General condemning the attacks terrorist attacks that

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had taken place in Ankara the day
before, Benno, thank you, Steph.

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A couple on Haiti. First of
all, how many police forces are?

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How many police forces have been pledged
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like one thousand, but it's still
pretty far away from the two thousands you

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guys are aiming for, right I
don't have the total numbers. As we

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know, a number of countries have
indicated support. The resolution calls on countries

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that are interested to notify the Secretary
General right now, as far as we

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know, it's I mean, Kenya
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obviously we will wait for others to
pledge. Okay, and a few more.

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I know that you don't really like
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are we like to this till the
start of this mission? Are we talking

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about like months or weeks? Will
it happen this year? What do you

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expect at least? Well, you
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look at the resolution, it calls
on the members of the of the Force

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and the countries leading it to come
up with the concept plan and to work

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with the Haitian authorities. So that's
a question that should be asked right now

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of the kenyons. Okay, in
the last one and more meta question about

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the functionality of the Security Council,
you yesterday said, this was exactly what

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the SG said one year ago.
This is exactly what he wanted. Now

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the Security Council approved the mission giving
given all the dysfunctionality in the in the

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in the Council, Ukraine Cross Border
DPRK. What's your assessment regarding what what

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this decision means. Is it like
a glimpse of hope or like how do

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you see it? I take it
as a positive development that answers the call

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most importantly of the Haitians themselves and
of the Secretary General to help to help

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the people of Haiti. I'm not
in the business of extrapolating and see what

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what is the greater impact on this
on on the on the universe. I

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think I will leave it to journalists
and analysts such as yourselves, Amili than

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Deji, than Stefano. Thanks Steph. Follow up on Haiti. Several Security

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Council member Ambassaday yesterday talked about learning
lessons from the past in Haiti. What

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do you think what the secretary think
is needed to avoid this mission ends up

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with leaving Heiti back to square one
where it is today, which happened every

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time after there was an international mission
sent there. It's about keeping the long

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term goals in mind and understanding that
sometimes decisions made in the in the moment

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will only increase the cost and then
and the suffering, and to the international

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community needs to stand by the people
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It's a long game, deji.
So a couple of questions. But first

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of all, up also on Haiti
after the resolution, because we know that

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Kenya is sending about one thousand what
what what is what is the secret General's

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expectation? How how fast could this
be am this multi national force can be

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assemboled to to dispatch there. Well, first of all, you know,

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obviously the the faster the better.
I mean that the things shouldn't I mean,

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but I think, I think,
but things need to be done in

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a in a way where the force, once deployed, can function. I

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mean, it needs to be done
in a methodical way as quickly as possible,

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but the owners should not only be
on on on Kenya UH and those

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who may step up more fish.
It needs to be on the international community,

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hold on the Security Council. The
mission will need financial UH financial support.

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So it is not let's let's not
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Kenyans at this point. The international
community will need to help in whatever way

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they can. But the thing is, as as I understand, even the

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Parliament of Kenya didn't approval the I
can't speak to the internal constitutional workings of

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the Kenyon Okay, Now my question
what was that before? That's the follow

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up? Okay, So it's it's
been quite it's it's been quite a while

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that we didn't ask about the ladies'
update on the Blacks initiative. That that's

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the question, is okay? Okay? As Stefano knows, I like to

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hear a question mark at the end
of a sentence. So the only update

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to share with you is that the
Secretary General continues to be determined to get

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as much of the Ukrainian grain and
Russian grain fertilizer out to market, and

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his efforts and the efforts of his
team continue in that regard. The other

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day, the Russian Foreign Minister laugh
here said he was surprised that the Secrestian

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general is still trying to fulfill the
memorandum. I'm the MoU with Russia.

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I don't I don't think anybody should
be surprised by the determination, the determination

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of Antonio Guterris. One last question. Sorry, on Monday. On Monday

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early morning, Israeli army carried airstrike
in Syria in de Lazur, which is

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quite different because normally they would have
the airstrike on the western part of Syria,

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but now they went too deeper into
the eastern part. Does the Secret

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General think this is this might be
an escalation in that region because we know

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that the Syrian Syrian issue is quite
a sensitive there. I mean, we

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have spoken out regularly and will continue
against the air strikes that we're seeing in

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h in Syria, the violence that
we're seeing in Syria, and I think

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all of this is a reminder of
the need for a political solution and for

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people to rally around the work of
gar Patterson Stefano. Thank you. Stepun.

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One is a guest a follow up
and one and then I have another

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question on Ahiti who how did can
you tell us how Kenya was actually the

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country that was and understand that Kenya
offer to be the leading country, but

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because Kenya has a history with its
police, and if we just google Kenya

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police violence you find everything, even
just a few months ago, how Kenya

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was picked to beat the two points
to make three points one. There are

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few countries in the world that have
not had one point of another issues with

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police violence, right, I mean, and we see it north, south,

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east and west. What is important? And it stated in the resolution

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that all police and others that are
deployed respect the human rights policies and go

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through the We will support those countries
with the human rights due diligence policy.

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Secretary General did not choose Kenya.
The Secretary General in the Haitian government put

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out an appeal and Kenya step forward, and I assume and we've seen reports

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and press reports of others stepping forward. Yes, But the ambassador, the

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US ambassador was asked yesterday, who
is responsible if the Kenyan forces abuse there

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for their their demandate and they start
to have a commit crime, and is

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the US responsible that he is for
example put in the money and she Hants

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said no. Look, I was
I was asked yesterday and I would kind

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of repeat maybe a little bit more, uh, a bit more detail.

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It is important, uh that everything
be done to prevent any sort of abuse

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by any troops and police that are
that are deployed. We've advocated the Secretary

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generally his proposal advocated for a strong
and robust prevention response system to put safeguards

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in place on that. Again,
read the resolution. The resolution is fairly

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explicit and says that member states participating
in this force take necessary measure to ensure

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appropriate conduct and discipline and to prevent
sexual expectation abuse all. We call on

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all member states to implement that framework. It is incumbent on any member state,

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any member to ensure that there's a
robust oversight mechanism to prevent such incidents

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should they and if they occur,
to deal with them clearly, you know.

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Ultimately, as it is with peacekeepers
who commit abuses, member states have

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the ultimate authority and responsibility for the
people they sent abroad. Well, I

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was in this room actually with the
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when there were conversation about that this
system had to be changed because the abuse

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that the Blue Helmet had in the
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there was the we can I meane, we can get a much longer conversation

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about how the system. You know, this is not how the system that

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we've put into place right now in
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staff is much more I think,
more effective, more victims centered, and

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much more transparent. Has have we
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human being abusing another human being?
Sadly not right, But I think in

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terms of responsibilities and where there is
lie, it's pretty clear. Michelle and

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It's about the migrants situation in medi
Iranian and that and agreement memorandum between

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Europe and Tunisia. Now there are
the problems Tunisia's is saying like that they

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are not in the business of protecting
some other countries borders. So does the

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Secretary General have any opinion about if
this agreement is legitimate? Is something there?

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It's not for him to endorse,
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EEU and Tunisia, where the Secretary
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this about two hundred and thirty times. Is for members for countries of destination,

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countries of transit like Tunisia, and
they're not the only one in countries

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of origin actually come together and implement
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the Migration Agreement. Michelle, then
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I was a little light coming in
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participating to notify the SGA of the
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four hours in, but have your
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of such a question, which Beno
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uh No, we've not nothing.
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a statement yesterday and Azerbad that was
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Armenians were being put out and put
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they've been chased out of their homes
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agencies helping them. Is there any
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It wasn't. It wasn't. It
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It was it was a statement of
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they saw with their own eyes and
what they and it's talked about what they

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saw and what they didn't see.
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with now supporting the government of Armenia
with one hundred thousand or so men,

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women and children who've arrived in Armenia
clearly under trauma right or being treated as

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refugees according to refugee law. According
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can only report on what they saw. People can analyze and you know,

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extrapolate. That's your your role and
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reported on what they saw. Well, they didn't see executions because there were

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Well I'm just is that but what's
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thank you, Yes, sir,
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All three parts on the Black Sea
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to organize this process on its own, uh, without Rush, without Turkey,

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and without United Nations ships with grain
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first Stan ships. So is the
Black Sea Initiative a thin of best or

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it has some future? I mean
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in monitoring the ships that are going
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that there is grain going out is
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involved, nobly for the global food
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Black Sea grain Black Sea initiative,
along with the mo OU, would increase

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the volume in a much more stable, in a stable, stable manner and

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safer manner, Madam. And then
we'll go to Margaret Bashir, who has

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been very patient. I think,
thanks Steph. I thought it was a

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good idea too. You know,
we had the Shagusian people coming just in

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our Journalist Association to give us a
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this decision of the GA in twenty
nineteen two place to give actually of the

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CIG sarrey in twenty nineteen to give
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people interest here at the UN.
This is a GA thing, but for

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the Secretariat. Would the Secretary General
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Shagosian people to try to make a
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any request to meet has been has
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America. Oh, thank you,
sir. There's a length ppiece today out

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by reporters that the Organized Crime and
Corruption Reporting Project zeros in on alleged corruption

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bribery at the United Nations that went
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you're quoted in the article, but
if you could give us some reaction to

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it and just tell us maybe when
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and Gina Zoo's activities at the UN? And have you raised this at all,

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for instance, with the Chinese Mission
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did become aware of their activities by
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regarding a staff member. I think
the story and the underscores the need for

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all those who have access to this
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be protected and not to be sold
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involves a very small number of of
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you that we have been as we
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cooperating with local law enforcement. So
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to of a staff member was that
John Victorian Coolo, I'll refer you to.

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I won't say anymore this at this
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to Stephano about migration and EU.
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on a reform of their migration system. Are you guys observing this and do

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you have any opinion for bibles.
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involved with issues of migration's refugees are
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rather, I think for a more
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Juba. So good evening, good
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So and thank you very much for
this opportunity to speak to you from

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Jubel today and just put a little
bit of a spotlight on the situation for

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people fleeing a war in Sudan.
The humanitarian situation at the Sudan Sor Sudan

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border is at a critical juncture and
we really do fear a hunger emergency is

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looming if humanitarian agencies are unable to
scale up the responses as needed. People

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crossing the border are arriving with harming
stories of escape as they've made their way

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to Sar Sudan robberies, sexual violence, and long journeys on food with no

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food or water. By the time
these families arrived in South Sudan, the

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resources have been completely defeated only already
well on the way to a hungred emergency.

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The recent data and collective buyers also
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of families have gone multiple days without
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insecurity on arrival. One in five
children and more than one quarter of all

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mothers who have been screened at the
border are malnourished. Almost three hundred thousand

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people have crossed so far from Sudan
into South Sudan since the conflicts started more

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than five months ago, and upwards
of one thousand people continue to arrive each

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day. The families that can be
see crossing today are even more vulnerable and

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food and secure than those that arrived
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and it's getting worse. Over ninety
percent of the people aroundy are arriving at

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the border crossing points with a desire
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sets further inside. Sar saida onward
transportation is difficult. The only viable modes

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are river that air solutions. Jodah
Rank is the main crossing point and Rank

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is over one six hundred kilometers from
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of times, but most particularly in
the rainy season, making the response much

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more complex. An already difficult humanitarian
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because of the heavy rains. Flooding
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road conditions twice in the past few
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communities are not immune to this.
They have been severely impacted by this flooding,

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with over four thousand of them displaced. The mud and stagnant water in

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the makeshift tanks for people staying while
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for disease, which is contributing further
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youngest children who are the most vulnerable. Currently, there are around twelve thousand

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people in the transit center waiting for
onward transport with new rivals every day,

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and over three thousand people at parute
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of support WFP is supporting the newly
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meanings, high energy biscuits, dry
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screening young children and mothers for malnutrition
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proquireds. But all this is only
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families, and the rations we are
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they should be. Many of the
returns needs have lived in urban areas of

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Sudan for years, decades, or
even generations. The areas they are returning

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to in South Sudan are unfamiliar and
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urban environments that many of the families
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livelihoods for themselves, and they have
missed the going season for this year,

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and this means not only do they
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longer term support as they try to
revolve the banks. Before the war in

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Sudan and the tragedy it has caused, the situation in South Sudan was already

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desperate. Was sadly over seven point
four million people estimated to be food and

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secure. Many of the communities people
are returning to are also facing humanitarian crises

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of their own, driven by the
conflict, the climate crisis, and soaring

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food prices. So far, we
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atorneys and are arriving in some of
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They are fleeing the dangers of war
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SOBFP is struggling to address the immediate
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them to build a sustainable future.
This year, WFP received lesson half the

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funding that we needed, and the
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Simply put, half the funding translates
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In order to reach as many people
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percent. Meeting people received less than
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and this includes the people arriving from
Sadana. Continuing in this manner means that

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we will be unable to break the
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a way out of the families facing
extreme hungry. We are barely pulling people

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back from the cliff edge of desperation
and why we do not expect the funding

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outlook for twenty twenty four to drastically
improve. We implore the global community to

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remember that just barely saving lives is
not enough. We need durable solutions that

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will assist the attorneys to Sousidad and
the Sudanese in the deepest trenches of food

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and security to build their own livelihoods
and live a dignified life free of this

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persistent hunger. This will mean supporting
communities to adapt farming practices and introduce climate

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smart agriculture, investing in peace building
programs, and improving infrastructures so communities can

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stand and both within numerous shots.
WFP has seen the successes that are possible

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in Susidad when people are given opportunities
and the tours needed to succeed despite the

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growing humanitarian crisis at the border with
Sidan. If these families can be supported

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to resettle in their communities and rebuild
the broken livelihoods, then all hope is

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not lost. We need to bring
this hope and possibility to the many children

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and the thousands of families who are
freeing more in Sudan and making an arduous

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journey to safety. They deserve and
require ours. Thank you, thank you

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so much. Mary Allen McGroarty,
the WFPAS country director in South Sudan.

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If anybody has a question, please
Evlingo Evelyn. I can see you,

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but I can't see our guests were
technical difficulties and please keep the mic.

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But anyway, welcome on behalf of
the un Correspondent Association. My name is

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Evilently Leopold. The you talked about
onward transportation to where is one question?

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And the second is many years ago
I did visit Juba and I wonder is

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the government functioning at all there now? Doesn't have any role? Mary Ellen,

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thank you, Yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah yeah. The people

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the ownward Transportation has said over over
ninety percent percent of the people that are

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coming are actually sor studies, uh, citizens, attorneys. Many of them

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are are looking for onward transportation to
the original, the original place of family

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origin homestead. Many of what we're
seeing coming at the moment are going into

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the Upper nine Unity state away.
So I mean it's right, it's right

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across the country where where they're returning
to because many of them, I mean,

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there's quite a large population of Sara
Sudanese in Sudan, in the government,

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you know, we constantly call on
the on the government to to to

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step up on the humanitarian assistance side. We do have to force command that

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the huge welcome that is given to
the people that are returning from Sidan,

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and it's not only returnings but also
refugees. But yes, definitely much much

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more to be done, support with
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over you're Micah, but they have
Where would the onward transport go back to

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Sudan or to which country? Yeah, the onward transport would make me coming

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in. They're coming in up the
very north of Sar Siddan a place called

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Ranks. So it's basically onward transport
to places like Malakal, to places like

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ben to places like wall and places
like fun artisan and even someone looking looking

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to come as far as you go. Thank you, Mary Allen. Is

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there any other question or anybody online? So okay with this, I thank

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you so much. Mayellen mcgherty,
the World Food Programs con your director,

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and South Soudan, thank you for
your time. Final thoughts, I asked

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the question, how do you do
you help a country and a group and

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a people that has a roadblock that
is the government oppressive government. While we

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don't really have the answer to that, because they are the governing body and

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if they decide to oppress their people, there that's the first roadblock into helping

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people and changing how the government actually
does things. Not an easy task,

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and it isn't. It doesn't come
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either. So while I really can't
I answer this question, and I don't

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haven't found the person who could possibly
answer that question. The only thing we

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can do is try to find small
and intermittent ways to get around the government

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to help as many people as possible, for as long as it takes to

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actually get real humanitarian efforts to help
people so that no one has to remain

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impoverished in everyone in our world,
so that we can make this a human

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right to have plenty of food and
a safe home to live in. Thank

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