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Today, I want to tell you
about a journey that I've been on for

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most of my life. Ever since
I was a kid, I've heard tales

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of bigfoot and wild men while spending
time with my friends and family. As

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I grew older and read more about
the paranormal, my interest in encryptids and

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other things strange only deepened. That's
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Now, what are your reporting?
I got a screen going on here.

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Something just kid with my dog,
something to kill your dog? My dog.

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We're flying through there, over the
tree. I don't know how it

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did it? Okay, damn,
I'm really confused. All I saw was

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my dog coming over the fence and
name was dead once you hit the grill.

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I didn't see any cars. All
I saw was my dog coming over

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the fence. Happen? What are
you reporting? We got some wonder or

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something crawling around out here? Did
you see what it was? It was

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enough here. Look, I'm new
to window now and I don't need anything.

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I don't want to go out tonight. Frank, Hello, hit the

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boddy out here? What quin?
I'm out there? It's thought of a

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bitch of about text nine. I
don't know. Easy announce there. Yeah,

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I'm working right head. Hey there, and thanks so much for joining

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me for the show. As we
get closer to my birthday on the eighteenth

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and the holiday coming up on the
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just a little bit, so I
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a month. Today's episode is an interview

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that I got to do with Jeremiah
over at the Bigfoot Society podcast back in

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the summer. This is before I
went out to Radium. You hear us

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talk about some of that stuff,
but we get into podcasting and helping other

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podcasters, and we talk about some
of the things that you probably never heard

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me talk about on the show before. It was a really good conversation.

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If you haven't listened to Jeremiah's podcast, make sure you check him out Bigfoot

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Society. He does interviews and has
some really great shows over there. Now,

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let's turn back the clock and go
back to this summer interview I did

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with Jeremiah on the Bigfoot Society.
Big Society. I've got the privilege of

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talking to mister Brian king Sharp tonight
from Sasquatch Odyssey. How's it going,

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Brian? I'm good. Jeremiah,
how are you, ma'am? Dude,

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I'm doing good. I'm excited to
finally get to chat with you on my

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show. I was able to go
over on yours and I got a little

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distracted. But how are things going
on over there on the You're on the

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East coast, right, I am. I'm in North Carolina. It's been

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really stormy today. I was glad
that the storms moved out because I've had

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to cancel a couple of interviews over
the last I don't know a couple of

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months when we've had these really bad
storms come through, but luckily the skies

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parted. They knew I was going
to talk to you tonight. Can't be

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raining during bigfoot society, that's right, And I know some of these interviews

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sometimes you work a year to get
them to work out, and this person's

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never going to come back on again. So I'm always holding my breadth for

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these interviews that they will actually work. Brian, I've never heard your how

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you got into bigfooting. What was
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It's so weird because I feel like
I've always been in it because I

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grew up in the North Georgia Mountains
as a kid. It was part of

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the culture there. It wasn't something
that you just set around and talked about

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at the dinner table. But we
lived in a very rural, poor area.

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I grew up very poor. There
was a lot of gensng hunters and

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people out doing whatever they could to
survive. And I remember distinctly hearing some

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of the gensng hunters stories that came
down off of Lookout Mountain in the North

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Georgia area and northern Alabama, right
on the border there with Georgia. I

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remember One story in particular that stuck
out to me for years was a couple

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of Gensen hunters. They ran down
the mountain, basically rolled down this mountain.

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They came down, beat up,
bruised, tattered. They kept saying

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that something chased them off the mountain. I think they called it a wild

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man or hairy man or something.
Of course, I was maybe ten when

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I heard the story for the first
time. I had no idea what it

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was, but now in retrospect,
I figure out that it was probably Bigfoot

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that they were talking about, that
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I do some stories. I call
it storytime on my show. I

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read some encounter stories, even got
a whole series going now on dog Man.

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I was searching for stories and a
lady over in the UK actually put

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together a huge database. I don't
know if you're familiar with Deborah hats Will,

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but she does the Yes, she
reached out to me. Yep,

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yeah, Deborah is awesome. I've
had her on the show a couple of

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times, but she has amassed this
database and she has it's an interactive map

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basically of every cryptid encounter you could
possibly imagine. She shared it with me.

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She's like, pick at whatever story
you want, read it off there.

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And I was looking in Georgia one
day, Lo and behold. I

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started searching in on this map in
that area of Georgia and I found a

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story from I guess it was the
late seventies of these Jensen hunters that told

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their story. It's a very short
encounter, but it was the one that

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I grew up hearing through word of
mouth as a kid. So it was

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really cool to have that come full
circle as a podcaster now that deals in

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bigfoot encounters really and to hear one
and see it validated and writing on a

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database that it actually got reported to
somebody, and somebody took the time to

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actually document their encounters that ending experiences
as a child that I attribute to wuld

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possibly be bigfoot when I was like
twelve years old. I know, I've

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always had an interest in it,
but I really didn't get into it until

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I got out of law enforcement and
I could actually pursue that kind of line

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of inquiry, if you will,
because as a cop, you don't talk

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about that stuff. I've said that
plenty of times on the show. You've

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talked to plenty of police officers.
You just don't talk about that at work.

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Once I left that in twenty sixteen, I was really able to pursue

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that interest, and that culminated and
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one. That is just fascinating,
what if fascinating area to grow up?

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And was that the same area where
like the Expedition Bigfoot Museum is like that

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area of North Georgia, or it's
similar to that. I would probably say

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as the crow Flies, I grew
up in like the Summerville and Rome area.

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That's in Blue Ridge, So it's
probably a couple of hours drive,

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maybe an hour and a half drive
from that area, But say general,

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if you looked at a topo map
and just erase the name of the area,

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it would look almost identical to the
area where that Bigfoot Museum is.

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And I've been there a couple of
times. It's a great place, so

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on my list of Bigfoot museums to
go to, it's a really cool place.

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Man. I've been there a couple
of times, and we did a

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vice show a couple of years ago, I think towards the end of twenty

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twenty one. They followed us around
for about ten days and filmed. They

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were highlighting the show and me and
what I was doing. And part of

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the thing we did was travel from
North Carolina here on our property to the

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Bigfoot Museum when we filmed there for
a couple of days, and they were

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super nice people. They allowed me
full carte blanche access. I got to

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interview people on the spot. Yeah, it was a really cool experience,

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really great people. Did that aeron
on Vice it did? Yeah, Okay,

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what was the name of that The
name of the series was in my

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own world, I think I was
episode seven. It was called Bigfoot Hunters

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of All Things. Man, I
gotta check that out. That sounds great,

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man. I love that sort of
stuff. Brian, I would hope

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that most of my listeners already know
what Sasquatch Odyssey is, because if you

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like Bigfoot Society, you're really gonna
Sasquatch Odyssey and vice versa. But for

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the people that haven't heard of Sasquatch
Odyssey yet, do you mind sharing what's

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your elevator pitch for what Sasquatch Odyssey
is. How it came about all that

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good stuff, How it came about
is a little longer than an elevator pitch,

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But the elevator pitch for the show
really is it's very similar to the

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Bigfoot Society in that I wanted to
create a space where people could come on

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and share their encounter experiences and not
feel crazy. That's it in a nutshell,

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right, because when I really got
into the subject, that's the one

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thing I really wanted to do was
talk to people who had experiences and had

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encounters. And it started, and
it was born out of me doing it

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in the Southeastern United States because I
talked to people, and I've talked to

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people since. I've interviewed Peter Burne
on the show and we got into a

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little argument because he didn't think Bigfoot
has ever existed east of the Rockies,

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and I'm like, I've talked to
tons of people that would disagree with you,

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Peter, But that's neither here nor
there. I really wanted to document

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as many cases as I could in
Georgia, Tennessee, Alabama, North Carolina,

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South Carolina, all the places that
I've been and grown up Southeastern United

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States in generals, that's what the
show was for me, as I wanted

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to document those cases. That's how
it started. The very first episode of

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the show ever, was a roadside
crossing encounter with a guy named Cale here

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in North Carolina. I think you've
been a lot better in this business than

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I started, because I've listened to
some of your older shows and they're much

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better quality than mine. When I
started. I was you didn't listen far

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enough back, But thanks, Brian. I was literally recording the show on

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my cell phone on this free app
called rev and I was too an anchor.

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Dude, that's okay, so we
get it. We are brothers,

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man, we are brothers god.
So yeah, that's that was the thing.

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I recorded his interview. I was
fascinated with some of the things that

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he told me. He's about three
hours from me here in North Carolina.

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Just that in and of itself.
The roadside crossing thing has become this thing

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for me on the show because you
hear that all the time. These are

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such elusive creatures. People go out
and look for them for fifty years and

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they never have an encounter. They
never see a footprint. But yet somebody's

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driving to work in a Prius and
they almost smack one of them crossing the

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road at least two times a month. So that was I'd say the beginning

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of the end. For me,
I just went down the rabbit hole because

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I was hooked at that point.
And when I talked to him, I

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was like, I've got to do
something with the story. I can't be

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the only one who hears the story. So I was like, I'm going

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to start a podcast. I don't
know if anybody will listen, but I'm

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going to start a podcast and put
these out there and let people hear these

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stories from North Carolina, South Carolina, Alabama, Tennessee, Georgia. So

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that's what I did, and one
episode turned into five, turned into ten,

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and luckily through the universe was looking
out for me. West Girmmer from

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Sasquatch Chronicles about three months into the
show, he reached out and said,

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Hey, man, I like your
show. I listen to your show,

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but your audio sucks but awesome though. Let me help you with your audio.

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And I'm like, holy crap,
what am I going to say?

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No, of course not. He
called me up and we spent a couple

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hours on the phone talking and he
gave me some ideas and I'm writing a

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list down of things that I should
order and boards that I should get to

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record the show and microphones and all
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couple of weeks later, I had
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board up and I was a lost
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had no idea what I was doing. A cinema text and we hopped on

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FaceTime and he spent like forty five
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and it literally changed the show overnight, the audio quality. And it still

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had some issues. Every day you
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to do something, and you work
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overnight it changed the show. I've
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those earlier episodes because there were such
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remaster those shows and give them new
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a couple of Apple reviews lately that's
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did that because I got to hear
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Like episode nine, I had Jeff
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horrible the audio. I over compressed
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was horrible, and I just remastered
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month or so back, and it's
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back and listen to Doctor Jeff Meldrim. He was one of the first episodes

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I did on the show and I'm
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one that's amazing how Wes stepped out
and said, Hey, I'm going to

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help this dude. What I love
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though they're doing the same thing,
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I'm going to shout you out real
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super specifics, but after I was
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a very intense thirty minute conversation or
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and put me on the right track
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giving me the hope to do it. So I just want to say thank

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you, Brian for taking the time
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doing here. That was just really
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sure, I believe in karma,
man, I believe in karma. I've

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always said that no matter what,
and I help a ton of people behind

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the scenes with their shows because I
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the point where you have the ability
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didn't have to do that for me. He could have just said that's just

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another podcast or whatever, and for
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it changed my world. It really
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If I ever have the opportunity,
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I believe if I ever have the
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this forward, I'm going to do
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people think things are competition, I
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succeeds at doing what I do just
makes my life better and it makes the

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world better for everybody because there's more
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That's what it's really all about for
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getting the information in people's hands,
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about things. One hundred percent.
I agree with that. My dudes,

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you are involved with something cool that's
about to happen relatively soon, but I

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would love you to share about what's
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thing that you guys are putting out
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Hoffhein from Squatch Nut reached out to
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going back and forth about some other
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I invited him on the show.
He came on the show, shared his

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encounters. Great dude, just super
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to his stories. We started talking
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together a Bigfoot conference in Idaho.
He reached out to me, we kicked

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around some ideas, he just started
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I know, he calls me up
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doctor Jeff Meldrum's committed to coming out. Cliff Bergman's coming out. I'd love

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to have you on the panel.
Would you come out and speak at the

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conference? And I'm like, sure, man, absolutely, let's make it

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happen. And I had been trying
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you know, I had been chasing
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five months now. I've been trying
to do a roundtable discussion on the enhanced,

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non interlaced version of this Freeman footage
from nineteen ninety two. I'm sure

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most people who listen to your show
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a very good job with that,
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what the Freeman footage is all about, it's basically Paul Freeman. He was

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a pretty prolific bigfoot investigator back in
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two thousands really before he passed away. He's a kind of a controversial figure

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in Bigfoot. As I dug into
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figured this out because if you talk
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the Patterson Gimlin film is usually number
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it's the Freeman footage right there at
number two. It's a pretty big deal.

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But in a nutshell, this guy's
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films what looks like a Bigfoot crossing
over this path. The famous line that

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most people recognize zoh, where he
goes right. It's very grainy. It

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was on eight millimeters video in nineteen
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long enough to put your mind back
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grainy video looks like back then.
That's what you're gonna get with the Freeman

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footage. Almost immediately after this footage
came out, Doug Hichek started digging into

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it and he was working his tail
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in part of the footage, and
Doug just talked about this on Saturday on

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my show, if you listen to
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at one time, Oh, there's
more than one of them. So he

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can see with his naked eye that
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You just can't make it out in
the film. So that was just

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digging into Doug's skin. Doug well
enough to Doe, He's going to start

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digging and he's not going to stop
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that's what he did, and he
worked on this for basically twenty years.

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He eventually had to go to the
government, to the military to get some

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software to really enhance this footage,
do the nine interlacing, make it so

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he could actually see what he was
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he made a discovery of what's now
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Big but that's in the footage.
Cliff's also been working on it. Cliff

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has done his own sort of version
of cleaning up the film to get it

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a little bit farther along, just
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last year, Michael Freeman Paul Freeman
Son wrote the book The Freeman Files.

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As a part of that, you
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I think it's ten plus hours of
audio that Paul recorded over the course of

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his life out researching, and that's
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What I was going to do or
wanted to do. I reached out

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to Michael, I reached out to
Doug and I said, hey, I'd

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like to get Cliff Barrickmhan was on
board. Cliff was going to come back

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on the show. I was going
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I was going to get doctor rush
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of the footage on the show and
then have a round tape, just like

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you and I were talking before we
went live. Here. It is almost

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impossible to get a lot of schedules
lined up You're talking five people with that

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kind of schedule. It's been really
tough. Every time i'd send out an

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email, I'd shoot people text messages
and say, hey, I've got these

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five days lined up over the next
week. Can you guys make it?

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There was always somebody. It was
Michael saying, oh I can't do it,

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or Cliff's I'll sorry, I'll be
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more sasquatch out to see. We'll
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a lit light bulb went off in
my head when Brandon reached out to me

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and said, hey, I'm going
to have doctor Jeff Meldrim's going to be

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there, Cliff Bergman's going to be
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Thinking, okay, what two better
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Freeman footage than those two. Let's
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shot him a text and said,
hey man, this thing's coming up.

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Do you think you'd be interested?
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Okay, boom, he's on board. So now we've got Michael coming.

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So then I reached out to Doug
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can you come and he's unfortunately,
I will be fifty five miles deep in

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the woods that weekend, But hey, why don't I send Alex up there

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and I'll send part of our crew
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thing. I won't be there,
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like, Okay, that'll work.
So yeah, that's where we are.

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And I had another idea. I
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dude. Very few people have ever
seen this non interlaced, enhanced, slowed

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down version of this film. That's
so crystal clear. Why don't we work

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with Doug Alex and those guys,
and why don't we figure out if there's

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a way to make this conference available
virtually, if people want to attend virtually,

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they can get a link and they
can see the video, they can

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hear us break it down, they
can hear us talk about it, they

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can be involved in the situation,
and they won't have to travel to Idaho.

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It's like two thousand miles for me, so I know it's a tough

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track for a lot of people to
get there, right, And he's that's

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a brilliant idea. So we've got
with Doug Alex and Blaine and those guys

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that they're fantastic, So anything they
set in their mind to, they get

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it done. And we just rolled
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on Saturday. I just released it. The show came out yesterday, but

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we rolled out the announcement. Doug
put together a cool like intro. It's

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about a minute long that sort of
describes what's happening. It's a trailer if

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you will for the upcoming conference.
That was a really long answer to say,

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it's a really cool conference if you
can be there in person. We

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obviously want you to be there in
person, but if you can't, you

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have the ability to see it.
Virtually. All you got to do is

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go on and Doug has different packages. It's Hanger one Publishing dot com.

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You can go over there and it's
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the lowest package is nineteen ninety five, so you can literally be a part

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of this for less than twenty bucks. See the footage, be a part

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of the round table, and really, in my opinion, be a part

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of history. I'm shocked that more
people aren't talking about what's going on with

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the Freeman footage. The enhancements,
so Hopefully we'll stir up a little interest

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and if people are interested in it, they can attend it virtually. I

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don't know if it's ever been done. Honestly, I know they've probably done

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some virtual conferences. I think you're
actually involved in one that's coming up that

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I saw something about online recently.
It's like I might, Yes, I

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am, I do my homework,
Jeremiah, thank you. Yeah, no,

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I'm Ryan Sprague is putting that on. That would be a good one.

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Yeah, I'm excited. But as
far as Bigfoot, I've never seen

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it done. I've been to a
couple of conferences. I've attended a couple

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of conferences. I've spoken at a
couple of conferences already this year, and

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I've not seen anybody that's done anything
virtual like that allows people to actually be

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a part of what the speakers are
doing on stage in real time that I'm

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aware of, I could be all. It raises the bar for imagine if

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all Bigfoot conferences, like in the
Ohio Bigfoot, the Big Guys, if

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they could do the same thing.
It's fantastic And for the cost to such

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a low cost of nineteen ninety nine, it's a no brainer that you want

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to be involved with seeing what's going
on. So is this going to be

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the best ever footage of the Freeman
footage? Then this is the best you're

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ever going to see it? Oh, hands down, There's no way it's

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ever going to get any better.
It is phenomenal. The first time I

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saw it, Michael sent it to
me after I had him on the show,

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and I pulled it up on my
computer and my jaw dropped because it's

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it's so freaking clear. Even to
this day, when I watched the Patty

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film, I've recently changed my opinion
on that too, So we can talk

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a little bit about that if you
want. But I've seen that so many

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times and I still there's this little
tickle in the back goes. I'm just

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not one hundred percent there. But
after I had the conversation with Michael and

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I saw this enhanced version of the
film, I was one hundred percent convinced.

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You're not going to convince me otherwise
that's not a sasquatch and that's not

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a baby that it's picking up off
that tree. Just not going to happen.

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Wow, don't you get a copy
of the Freeman Bigfoot Files. It's

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one of the tiers with this as
well. Yes you get an ebook.

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Yes you get the book with everything, so you can you literally read the

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book and look in and see what
Paul was doing in his research, and

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you can hear things in his own
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His audio diary is there and it's
amazing. The book itself is like seventy

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bucks if you buy it by itself, but as a part of one of

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the tiers that you can attend this
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of the e book and get access
to all of that in perpetuity forever.

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It's yours. When I was reading
through that and listening to everything before I

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had Michael Freeman on Big Fastciety a
little while back, I just remember listening

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to all the Paul Freeman audio clips
and you're literally listening to the Paul Freeman

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podcast. Is pretty much what it
is, but you really get to know

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how he is as what his character
is. It's fascinating. People watch the

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conference live. Also, you get
the book, and the book is so

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worth reading. Michael did a great
job with that. I'm excited that you

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guys are putting this together, that
the high checks figured out how to make

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it all the tech wizard stuff very
cool. You're such a busy guy,

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00:26:00.319 --> 00:26:03.319
Brian. You got a lot of
really cool stuff, and I appreciate that

408
00:26:03.440 --> 00:26:07.799
because you've gotten to the point where
you're doing some cool stuff and it's very

409
00:26:07.839 --> 00:26:14.200
inspiring. Another thing I want to
hear from you is you are taking a

410
00:26:14.200 --> 00:26:19.599
trip soon enough where you are headed
up to a special place with a particular

411
00:26:19.680 --> 00:26:22.680
gentleman, and I'm going to let
you just present it the way that you

412
00:26:22.720 --> 00:26:26.799
would like, because I think it's
a very fascinating story. Yeah, it's

413
00:26:26.839 --> 00:26:30.160
another thing that sort of I won't
say that fell in my lab. That

414
00:26:30.240 --> 00:26:34.839
was a more of a long time
coming. I had the opportunity to take

415
00:26:34.880 --> 00:26:38.440
this trip last year and I just
couldn't make it work with my schedule.

416
00:26:38.480 --> 00:26:44.960
But the opportunity presented itself again.
I am going up to BC Canada to

417
00:26:45.000 --> 00:26:49.440
the Radium area on an expedition with
Todd standing in October. I say it

418
00:26:49.480 --> 00:26:53.599
took a lot longer to get to
that point because it took me probably a

419
00:26:53.680 --> 00:26:56.880
year to get tied on my show. I would say the reason for that

420
00:26:57.039 --> 00:27:00.119
is is because I called him a
hoaxer for about a year before I got

421
00:27:00.200 --> 00:27:04.680
him on the show. I have
strong opinions about his videos that he presents

422
00:27:04.920 --> 00:27:10.200
as evidence in his documentary and his
YouTube channel and wherever he puts those out

423
00:27:10.240 --> 00:27:14.359
there. It really took getting Survivor
man Less Stroud on the show, I

424
00:27:14.359 --> 00:27:17.839
think to persuade Todd to come on
the show, because I don't know.

425
00:27:17.839 --> 00:27:21.119
It's probably two weeks after I had
Less on the show than Todd was like,

426
00:27:21.200 --> 00:27:22.519
Okay, I'll come on your show, dud. Because we talked about

427
00:27:22.559 --> 00:27:26.319
him for thirty minutes and had a
really in depth conversation because it was the

428
00:27:26.359 --> 00:27:30.359
closest thing I could get because Less
has been out with Todd, he spent

429
00:27:30.440 --> 00:27:34.039
weeks in the woods with him.
I wanted to get Less's perspective because I

430
00:27:34.079 --> 00:27:37.480
respect the Less. I think he's
a very honest guy, and I knew

431
00:27:37.480 --> 00:27:40.839
he wasn't gonna bs me when I
asked him these tough questions, so I

432
00:27:40.920 --> 00:27:42.680
did. It was more, it's
not about Todd as a person. I've

433
00:27:42.720 --> 00:27:47.960
never wanted it to be about Todd
as a person. It's about Todd's evidence

434
00:27:48.240 --> 00:27:49.920
and what he presents as evidence.
That's where we kept it, and I

435
00:27:49.960 --> 00:27:55.200
asked Less, I said, what
were your concerns about the videos, and

436
00:27:55.279 --> 00:27:56.559
he was honest. He said,
look, dude, I held the cards

437
00:27:56.559 --> 00:28:02.680
in my hand, I held the
video medium in my hand. The videos

438
00:28:02.720 --> 00:28:07.599
are real. I don't see anything
as far as me being able to point

439
00:28:07.599 --> 00:28:11.680
out this is fake. And this
is why he's of My concern was where's

440
00:28:11.720 --> 00:28:15.599
the b roll, where's the leading
up to, and where's the after that

441
00:28:15.680 --> 00:28:18.759
it happens? Right, So we
got into that on the show, and

442
00:28:18.799 --> 00:28:22.319
that's the one thing that I've called
him out for, and of course Todd

443
00:28:22.400 --> 00:28:26.200
has these answers, and Lesson went
through that on the show. I think

444
00:28:26.240 --> 00:28:29.680
Less was the episode sixty eight of
my show. If anybody wants to go

445
00:28:29.720 --> 00:28:32.640
back and listen to that. The
remastered version has come out in the last

446
00:28:32.680 --> 00:28:34.559
month or so, but if you
look for less Strategy, you'll find the

447
00:28:34.640 --> 00:28:40.440
episode. But we get into that, and that was the only thing because

448
00:28:40.559 --> 00:28:44.039
it's the typical thing, right if
you look at any bigfoot video online,

449
00:28:44.119 --> 00:28:48.519
you going onto YouTube and it's just
boom, somebody's filming trees and then all

450
00:28:48.519 --> 00:28:51.480
of a sudden, something walks out, where's the backstory? Why were you

451
00:28:51.519 --> 00:28:53.640
there? Why were you filming the
tree? Why were you having the camera

452
00:28:53.720 --> 00:28:56.640
pointed in that direction. Where's the
footage that led up to that? Did

453
00:28:56.680 --> 00:29:00.359
you walk up for thirty minutes?
That kind of stuff. So that was

454
00:29:00.400 --> 00:29:03.880
the one thing that really stuck out
to Less and he really never got answers

455
00:29:03.319 --> 00:29:07.000
as far as why. There was
always this happened, the camera went dead,

456
00:29:07.079 --> 00:29:11.319
or this happened, or that happened, but it was never really any

457
00:29:11.160 --> 00:29:15.480
real explanation. It didn't really change
my opinion. And then once Todd came

458
00:29:15.480 --> 00:29:18.279
on the show, I asked him
some tough questions about it, and he

459
00:29:18.440 --> 00:29:22.920
defended himself. To his credit,
he came on the show no one what

460
00:29:22.079 --> 00:29:26.359
to expect. He was coming into
an environment with a guy who had called

461
00:29:26.400 --> 00:29:30.400
him my hopes for for a year, and we had a very amicable conversation.

462
00:29:30.799 --> 00:29:33.799
We didn't always agree on everything,
we agreed to disagree, but at

463
00:29:33.839 --> 00:29:38.160
the end of that conversation, I
had a new respect for Todd the man.

464
00:29:38.279 --> 00:29:41.440
He's not a bad guy. We've
talked afterwards, We've had conversations.

465
00:29:41.519 --> 00:29:44.559
He's got a couple of my videos. I've let him use some of my

466
00:29:44.599 --> 00:29:48.319
interviews on his YouTube channel. I
just have a problem with what's happening as

467
00:29:48.319 --> 00:29:52.519
far as the evidence is concerned.
He basically invited me. At that point.

468
00:29:52.559 --> 00:29:53.559
He's like, come up here and
let me prove it to you.

469
00:29:53.680 --> 00:29:56.240
Put your money where your mouth is, come up, go out on an

470
00:29:56.279 --> 00:30:00.680
expedition. I'll take you out.
He never guarantees that you're going to see

471
00:30:00.680 --> 00:30:03.839
a sasquatch. He's like, just
come on out and you'll see that it's

472
00:30:03.880 --> 00:30:06.319
the real deal. That's what I'm
doing in October. Man, I'm gonna

473
00:30:06.440 --> 00:30:08.400
go up and take the trip.
I've said it before. I wish those

474
00:30:08.400 --> 00:30:12.799
things were real. I wish that
those were real Bigfoot. I don't think

475
00:30:12.799 --> 00:30:18.559
that Todd hasn't had experiences. I
think he has had experiences, probably continues

476
00:30:18.599 --> 00:30:21.960
to have some sort of experiences.
I've interviewed several people who have been on

477
00:30:22.240 --> 00:30:27.240
expeditions with and who have seen a
sasquatch and or had some really intense experiences,

478
00:30:27.440 --> 00:30:30.680
and who knows. I'm going in
with an open mind, but I'm

479
00:30:30.680 --> 00:30:34.000
going in with the blinders off.
I'm not going to be an easy customer.

480
00:30:34.319 --> 00:30:37.519
Let's just put it that way.
I'm going to go in respectfully and

481
00:30:37.799 --> 00:30:41.880
see what happens. What kind of
tech are you bringing up? I'm going

482
00:30:41.960 --> 00:30:47.359
to guess you're gonna try to document
things stuff like that. Absolutely, I

483
00:30:47.400 --> 00:30:49.519
do not have a great camera.
I'm like most people. My only camera

484
00:30:49.599 --> 00:30:53.519
has been my iPhone for years.
But I wanted a really good camera because

485
00:30:53.519 --> 00:30:57.680
I'd like to do some on site
interviews. I want really good quality videos.

486
00:30:57.680 --> 00:31:03.079
I'm getting a camera that'll shoot HD
quality video, high quality audio,

487
00:31:03.240 --> 00:31:07.359
and really good pictures with a decent
zoom because I'm anticipating that I may be

488
00:31:07.440 --> 00:31:12.680
taking some long range photos. I'm
also going to invest in some really good

489
00:31:12.759 --> 00:31:18.119
audio recorders because I want to have
those on hand. I'm planning on having

490
00:31:18.119 --> 00:31:21.240
an audio recorder going twenty four hours
a day, seven days a week.

491
00:31:21.680 --> 00:31:23.160
I found a couple of models through
some good friends of mine, and some

492
00:31:23.200 --> 00:31:26.839
listeners of the show have reached out
and done some recommendations. I found a

493
00:31:26.880 --> 00:31:32.680
Sony that records for fifty hours straight
on one battery. I'm really excited about

494
00:31:32.680 --> 00:31:34.839
that. If I can take enough
batteries up there and keep that going for

495
00:31:34.960 --> 00:31:37.400
I'm going to be there for seven
days, so it's going to be a

496
00:31:37.400 --> 00:31:40.480
lot of audio. It's going to
be a ton of stuff to go through

497
00:31:40.519 --> 00:31:44.000
when I get back, but I
think it's going to be worth it because

498
00:31:44.000 --> 00:31:45.079
I'm going to have it going twenty
four to seven. Then, like I

499
00:31:45.079 --> 00:31:48.160
said, I'd like to do some
on scene interviews, maybe with Kyle,

500
00:31:48.279 --> 00:31:52.920
maybe with Todd, and then of
course we'll probably do a debrief and have

501
00:31:52.039 --> 00:31:56.759
them both back on the show once
we get back to talk about what happens,

502
00:31:56.759 --> 00:32:00.200
what doesn't happen, and all that
good stuff. Absolutely, that sounds

503
00:32:00.200 --> 00:32:07.079
like it's going to be a fascinating
journey. What kind of evidence would it

504
00:32:07.160 --> 00:32:12.200
take up there for you to at
the end to be like, Okay,

505
00:32:12.680 --> 00:32:16.240
there's bigfoot here, I experienced something, it's legit. What would it take.

506
00:32:16.759 --> 00:32:21.680
That's a good question, man,
I don't know outside of actually having

507
00:32:21.720 --> 00:32:24.519
a visual and seeing one. That's
the other thing I'm taking binoculars. I

508
00:32:24.519 --> 00:32:28.480
have a brand new pair of binoculars
that's going with me as well. Outside

509
00:32:28.519 --> 00:32:30.839
of seeing one. I really don't
know what to say, man, because

510
00:32:31.279 --> 00:32:35.200
I have found so many things here
on my property. I found a footprint

511
00:32:35.240 --> 00:32:37.880
like three weeks ago. The first
thing that I go to is Okham's razor.

512
00:32:37.920 --> 00:32:40.799
It's not a footprint, it's paradul
it's something else. It just looks

513
00:32:40.799 --> 00:32:45.599
like a footprint. I'm still questioning
my own stuff, you know. I

514
00:32:45.680 --> 00:32:49.000
just posted a bunch of pictures from
yesterday. We did a hike and I

515
00:32:49.039 --> 00:32:52.720
found a bunch of really weird tree
breaks. Another what looks like a nest

516
00:32:52.920 --> 00:32:59.079
site. There's I don't know,
probably a three hundred pound seedar log that's

517
00:32:59.160 --> 00:33:04.480
balanced in between two trees about ten
feet up. And a weird area where

518
00:33:04.519 --> 00:33:07.759
there's a pine tree stuck into what
looks like a den on the side of

519
00:33:07.799 --> 00:33:12.359
a mound. It's just really weird
stuff. You can see the pictures on

520
00:33:12.400 --> 00:33:15.119
the Tasquatch oyssee Instagram, and I
think I did it on TikTok as well,

521
00:33:15.160 --> 00:33:20.200
but just really weird stuff. So
I find that kind of stuff here

522
00:33:20.279 --> 00:33:22.359
and I just brush it off.
I sent the picture of the footprint or

523
00:33:22.359 --> 00:33:25.640
what looks like a footprint to Doug. I texted it to him and I'm

524
00:33:25.680 --> 00:33:29.519
like, tell me, I'm not
crazy, dude. This looks like a

525
00:33:29.519 --> 00:33:30.759
footprint, right, And he looks
like a handprint to me, and he's

526
00:33:30.799 --> 00:33:34.359
pointing out where it looks like maybe
a thumb, and I'm like, I

527
00:33:34.359 --> 00:33:37.680
don't know. It's just such a
slippery slope with all of that stuff.

528
00:33:37.720 --> 00:33:42.599
So unless I saw what made the
footprint, if I didn't see a sasquatch

529
00:33:42.640 --> 00:33:45.400
stepping into the creek where I found
the footprint. I'm never going to definitively

530
00:33:45.480 --> 00:33:49.200
say it was from a sasquat.
I think it would take me seeing it.

531
00:33:49.279 --> 00:33:52.240
People have asked me that question.
I was on Pine Island Research as

532
00:33:52.240 --> 00:33:54.200
a guest a couple of weeks ago
with Jeff. It's like I told him,

533
00:33:54.359 --> 00:33:59.480
even if I'm up there in the
camp and sasquatch comes in and sits

534
00:33:59.480 --> 00:34:01.519
down and has a cup of coffee
at breakfast, it's not going to change

535
00:34:01.519 --> 00:34:06.640
my opinion about what's happened with the
videos and the evidence in the past.

536
00:34:06.799 --> 00:34:08.239
Now, of course I would say
I had a cup of coffee with a

537
00:34:08.280 --> 00:34:13.639
sasquatch, maybe, But unless it
looked exactly like one of the ones that

538
00:34:13.719 --> 00:34:16.199
was in the video, and I
knew it was a real sasquatch, it's

539
00:34:16.239 --> 00:34:20.559
not going to change my opinion of
the evidence that we've seen over the last

540
00:34:20.559 --> 00:34:22.840
ten years. But then I would
come back and absolutely say, yes,

541
00:34:22.840 --> 00:34:27.199
there's activity there because I saw one. So I think that's what it would

542
00:34:27.199 --> 00:34:30.440
take for me, is I would
actually have to be able to see one

543
00:34:30.119 --> 00:34:35.840
and then know that was real.
That isn't me laughing at Todd. That's

544
00:34:35.880 --> 00:34:39.360
just me laughing at a visual I
had in my head that was so ridiculously

545
00:34:39.400 --> 00:34:44.599
funny. But man, I am
excited to hear what happens from your journey

546
00:34:44.719 --> 00:34:49.400
up there, your future journey.
That's going to be great. The cool

547
00:34:49.440 --> 00:34:52.320
thing. I love talking to people
on big Fast site. I know you

548
00:34:52.480 --> 00:34:59.719
love talking to witnesses as well.
Is there a certain interview that sticks out

549
00:34:59.760 --> 00:35:05.960
in your mind that you're like man
if Sasquatch Odyssey could only be one episode

550
00:35:06.480 --> 00:35:10.119
and listeners could only listen to one, like this is the one? Is

551
00:35:10.159 --> 00:35:15.679
there something that sticks out in your
mind? There's probably a couple. Okay,

552
00:35:16.519 --> 00:35:22.400
I think honestly it sounds cheesy,
but I would say the less Stroud

553
00:35:22.480 --> 00:35:25.960
interview was probably one of my favorite
interviews ever, just because of the person

554
00:35:27.039 --> 00:35:31.159
that he is and just the genuine
honesty that he exudes about everything in his

555
00:35:31.199 --> 00:35:36.440
life. He's had a fascinating life
way outside of Bigfoot. With his show

556
00:35:36.599 --> 00:35:39.920
The Way That Happened, he created
a genre that we enjoy to this day

557
00:35:40.480 --> 00:35:45.400
with this sort of lost, you
know, in the woods, Naked and

558
00:35:45.440 --> 00:35:50.159
Afraid Alone, all those shows.
So just that journey, that's where we

559
00:35:50.199 --> 00:35:52.760
started the interview because I was a
fan of Survivor Man before the Survivor Man

560
00:35:52.840 --> 00:35:57.639
Bigfoot stuff. I think that gives
you a really good portrait if you were

561
00:35:57.719 --> 00:36:00.199
just to listen to that episode what
the show is really and then the conversation

562
00:36:00.280 --> 00:36:05.039
we have about Bigfoot and the open
and the honest conversation about some of the

563
00:36:06.119 --> 00:36:07.559
I was on a show recently where
somebody said, I don't use the word

564
00:36:07.599 --> 00:36:12.440
wu anymore. I call it high
strangeness. So I'll say the high strangeness

565
00:36:12.440 --> 00:36:16.000
that has been involved in some of
his experiences out in the woods. It

566
00:36:16.079 --> 00:36:20.840
was just a really good conversation,
and he presents it very well, obviously,

567
00:36:20.920 --> 00:36:23.920
because that's what he does for decades
on television. Yeah, and then

568
00:36:24.559 --> 00:36:28.920
just recently, i'd say within the
last couple of months, there was a

569
00:36:29.000 --> 00:36:35.400
hunter I think his name was Daniel. His really weird experience. I say

570
00:36:35.440 --> 00:36:38.360
weird because if you listen to the
episode, it sounds really intense, and

571
00:36:38.400 --> 00:36:42.800
it is intense. It's about an
hour and a half long because he tells

572
00:36:42.920 --> 00:36:47.039
every minute detail of his encounter because
he is just reliving it. Then I

573
00:36:47.079 --> 00:36:51.559
found out why afterwards those people gave
me guff Of course, you get those

574
00:36:51.559 --> 00:36:53.199
messages you should have shut that guy
up and took him an hour and a

575
00:36:53.239 --> 00:36:58.800
half to tell a story that should
have lasted forty man. Absolutely absolutely,

576
00:36:58.840 --> 00:37:00.599
Brian, go ahead. Sorry,
you know where I'm coming from, but

577
00:37:01.280 --> 00:37:04.920
you have to as a host,
at least for me, you have to

578
00:37:05.079 --> 00:37:08.119
just shut up and let people go
through their process. I found out afterwards

579
00:37:08.119 --> 00:37:12.400
he told me after it was over, that was the first time, like

580
00:37:12.440 --> 00:37:15.559
he's told pieces to his wife.
He had told pieces of his encounter to

581
00:37:15.599 --> 00:37:17.920
his dad. He had told a
piece to a good friend, but that

582
00:37:19.039 --> 00:37:22.360
was basically it. He had never
told the entire story from beginning to end,

583
00:37:22.400 --> 00:37:27.760
to anybody but me. It was
very important for him to get every

584
00:37:27.800 --> 00:37:30.679
detail because he told this is the
first and only time I'm telling it,

585
00:37:30.760 --> 00:37:34.159
and I'm done. I'm moving on
with my life. Because it was such

586
00:37:34.199 --> 00:37:37.559
a traumatic experience for him, he
admitted openly on the show. He's like,

587
00:37:37.599 --> 00:37:39.320
I tried to bury myself in a
bottle, dude, Like I tried

588
00:37:39.360 --> 00:37:44.519
to drown it in a bottle of
whiskey for a year or two after this

589
00:37:44.679 --> 00:37:47.440
encounter because I was so messed up
from it. But in a nutshell,

590
00:37:47.559 --> 00:37:52.199
if you listen to the episode,
it's tree knocks. He's out elk hunting

591
00:37:52.239 --> 00:37:53.920
with his dad. His dad goes
into his area. He goes into his

592
00:37:54.000 --> 00:38:00.800
area, he starts hearing woodknocks.
He starts following the wood knocks, He'll

593
00:38:00.840 --> 00:38:05.480
stop, would knock again, He
follows where the sound's coming from. This

594
00:38:05.599 --> 00:38:08.559
happens over the course of about thirty
minutes. This goes on and it culminates

595
00:38:08.639 --> 00:38:12.920
with him being basically twenty feet away
from this thing, stepping out behind a

596
00:38:12.960 --> 00:38:15.559
tree. They have this oh crap
moment of do I shoot it, do

597
00:38:15.639 --> 00:38:19.320
I run? What do I do? It's a whole thing, but it's

598
00:38:19.320 --> 00:38:22.960
a very intense encounter. But he's
sitting in his pickup truck outside of his

599
00:38:23.039 --> 00:38:27.480
house during this interview, and he's
got his phone up on the dash and

600
00:38:27.519 --> 00:38:30.800
I'm watching him and I'm just right
into his face and his body language the

601
00:38:30.800 --> 00:38:36.239
whole time. And this dude was
he was traumatized by this experience. So

602
00:38:36.360 --> 00:38:40.159
that was one that really stuck out
to me in intensity. At the end

603
00:38:40.159 --> 00:38:43.960
of his encounter, wood knocks are
pretty common, and this is of course

604
00:38:44.000 --> 00:38:47.239
objective and it's probably a lot of
projection, but at the end of it,

605
00:38:47.280 --> 00:38:52.440
he felt really upset with himself because
he should have known better, because

606
00:38:52.440 --> 00:38:54.679
he felt like this thing was luring
him in with the wood knocks. I

607
00:38:54.840 --> 00:38:58.480
never heard that before. I said, why do you think that, man,

608
00:38:58.519 --> 00:39:02.000
And he said, because it own
knocked when I stopped walking. If

609
00:39:02.039 --> 00:39:07.519
I stopped and I wasn't making progressive
movements towards where the knock was coming from,

610
00:39:07.599 --> 00:39:10.679
it would knock again. I would
move forward, and when I stopped

611
00:39:10.679 --> 00:39:14.960
again to listen, it would knock. And he felt like he was being

612
00:39:15.039 --> 00:39:16.400
lured in. And of course people
have said, I don't believe that.

613
00:39:16.440 --> 00:39:20.440
I don't think he was being lowered
in. That was certainly his opinion on

614
00:39:20.480 --> 00:39:22.679
the situation, and I'm gonna take
his word for it because I wasn't there

615
00:39:22.719 --> 00:39:27.599
and he was. But that's a
really interesting encounter that has stuck out to

616
00:39:27.639 --> 00:39:31.719
me. Out of three hundred plus
shows, it's hard to say what's the

617
00:39:31.760 --> 00:39:36.039
best or what sticks out, but
just those two I think if you wanted

618
00:39:36.039 --> 00:39:37.960
a snapshot of what the show is
really all about, it would be those

619
00:39:38.000 --> 00:39:42.800
two episodes. You get the celebrity
part of Bigfoot, because I do interview

620
00:39:42.800 --> 00:39:46.760
a lot of people who are somebody
in the Bigfoot community. That's part of

621
00:39:46.800 --> 00:39:52.800
it, but the majority of the
show is about Joe Schmoe and Jane whomever

622
00:39:52.960 --> 00:39:57.320
who has had really intense encounters with
something that they just can't explain. And

623
00:39:57.360 --> 00:40:00.599
that's what is really all about for
me. Stay tuned for more Sasquatch out

624
00:40:00.599 --> 00:40:07.000
to see. We'll be right back
after these messages. I love that.

625
00:40:07.199 --> 00:40:10.800
No, man, that's so good. I'm definitely gonna have those in this

626
00:40:10.880 --> 00:40:15.920
show. Notes Brian, what do
you feel, after all these years of

627
00:40:16.039 --> 00:40:21.880
talking to people and probably doing some
research yourself, what do you think this

628
00:40:21.960 --> 00:40:25.960
creature is? That is such a
tough question, man. I just literally

629
00:40:27.039 --> 00:40:30.760
last night I finished the last chapter
of Matt Preuitz The Phenomenal Sasquatch Book.

630
00:40:30.760 --> 00:40:37.000
Oh yeah, those questions that Matt
asks in the book still stick out to

631
00:40:37.039 --> 00:40:40.360
me to this day. When those
two questions are we clearly know the phenomenon

632
00:40:40.480 --> 00:40:46.320
exists, right, bigfoot phenomenon has
existed for thousands of years. But are

633
00:40:46.320 --> 00:40:51.320
they a real creature or do they
only exist in the minds of the people

634
00:40:51.320 --> 00:40:54.440
who believe that they're real. I
believe that they're a flesh and blood creature.

635
00:40:54.480 --> 00:40:59.159
I believe that they are real.
I just don't know what they are.

636
00:41:00.280 --> 00:41:04.480
I think they're probably some sort of
the Gigantopithecus thing has been out there

637
00:41:04.519 --> 00:41:07.400
for a lot of years, and
I've never really subscribed to that. I

638
00:41:07.400 --> 00:41:13.519
think it's more some sort of a
possible Australia pitth the scene of some sort.

639
00:41:13.800 --> 00:41:16.960
Maybe I don't know, but I
think it's some sort of maybe a

640
00:41:17.119 --> 00:41:24.679
relict hominoid or possibly even a hominin
that's existed without being detected. I can't

641
00:41:24.719 --> 00:41:29.440
say without being detected. It's detected
one hundred times plus a year with people

642
00:41:29.480 --> 00:41:31.159
seeing them, but undiscovered, let's
put it that way. I think it's

643
00:41:31.159 --> 00:41:38.119
some sort of undiscovered bipedal ape like
creature that we still don't know what they

644
00:41:38.159 --> 00:41:42.559
are. So I love it.
I'm very close to that myself. I'm

645
00:41:42.639 --> 00:41:45.760
right there with you, man.
I'm one is a I'm in the flesh

646
00:41:45.800 --> 00:41:51.039
and blood camp. My caveat to
that is, Hey, animals can do

647
00:41:51.119 --> 00:41:53.840
weird stuff. Who's to say it
can't do weird stuff too. You look

648
00:41:53.840 --> 00:41:58.719
at I was at the Omahazi with
my family a few weeks ago. The

649
00:41:58.960 --> 00:42:06.639
kidnap has a way of it can
sense electrical pulses through a sensor at the

650
00:42:06.679 --> 00:42:10.440
animal equivalent of that, and it's
a snout. Who's to say that there's

651
00:42:10.480 --> 00:42:15.159
another creature that can't do that something
like that, But it's very wild stuff.

652
00:42:15.559 --> 00:42:19.960
Besides, you're going to go with
Todd's standing out to radium. Have

653
00:42:20.079 --> 00:42:22.440
you ever been on a like an
actual let's take a weekend, let's go

654
00:42:22.519 --> 00:42:27.079
out, let's go hardcore squatching.
Have you ever done that? Or is

655
00:42:27.119 --> 00:42:30.480
this your first time going out with
Todd? Yeah, this will be the

656
00:42:30.519 --> 00:42:36.559
first actual bigfoot expedition for me.
Everything else for me has been on my

657
00:42:36.679 --> 00:42:40.760
own property. That's one of the
reasons that we purchased so much property when

658
00:42:40.760 --> 00:42:45.039
we bought the forty acres that we
own five or six years ago, is

659
00:42:45.079 --> 00:42:51.400
I wanted to create sort of a
sanctuary for me and other like minded people

660
00:42:51.440 --> 00:42:54.480
who may want to come out and
just see what's out there. And I

661
00:42:54.519 --> 00:43:00.199
had no idea that there was even
a possibility of having any kind of activity

662
00:43:00.280 --> 00:43:05.079
on the property. But we've had
some weird stuff happen here with vocalizations and

663
00:43:06.199 --> 00:43:10.400
weird rock formations, possible gifting stuff
that's happened, you know, But just

664
00:43:10.400 --> 00:43:15.159
the vocalizations alone for me would have
been enough to drive me to continue to

665
00:43:15.159 --> 00:43:19.480
go out. I used to do
tons of night hikes Once a week.

666
00:43:19.519 --> 00:43:23.039
I'd go out for four or five
hours and just hike after dark and explore

667
00:43:23.119 --> 00:43:27.920
certain areas of the property as much
as I could, obviously with a headlamp

668
00:43:28.000 --> 00:43:30.960
or whatever. After we heard some
of the vocalizations I've heard here, I

669
00:43:31.000 --> 00:43:35.760
stopped the night hikes, dude,
because I'm like, really, oh snap,

670
00:43:36.039 --> 00:43:38.719
yeah, there's some I've heard some
weird stuff that has just made me

671
00:43:38.960 --> 00:43:44.199
say, no, thank you,
I'm not going outside. So listeners might

672
00:43:44.239 --> 00:43:46.880
know there's different types of vocalizations you
can hear, like Ohio, howse stuff

673
00:43:46.880 --> 00:43:50.800
like that? Are you able to
describe what kind of stuff were you here

674
00:43:50.880 --> 00:43:53.360
in that night the majority of it
started. We have a four hundred square

675
00:43:53.360 --> 00:43:57.880
foot tiny house, so it's a
really tiny house in the middle of forty

676
00:43:57.920 --> 00:44:01.039
acres. It's nothing but woods around
us. We have a deck out front.

677
00:44:01.320 --> 00:44:05.039
We put a hot tub out front, and I think it was two

678
00:44:05.039 --> 00:44:08.039
winters ago was the first time we
had the hot tub. We're out there

679
00:44:08.039 --> 00:44:13.440
at midnight drinking a glass of wine
in the hot tub. It's forty degrees.

680
00:44:13.800 --> 00:44:17.159
I don't know. February March.
There's a huge ridge behind us with

681
00:44:17.280 --> 00:44:21.880
about I think there's about one hundred
and fifty to two hundred acres of just

682
00:44:22.119 --> 00:44:25.000
raw land behind us on the back
of the ridge, and in that general

683
00:44:25.039 --> 00:44:30.239
area probably I don't know, I'm
estimating a mile and a half. We

684
00:44:30.239 --> 00:44:37.320
could hear what sounded like Ohio Howell
kind of vocalizations. Heard that several times.

685
00:44:37.599 --> 00:44:39.440
I'm like, oh, yeah,
yeah, it sounds weird. Just

686
00:44:39.519 --> 00:44:43.199
finish up your glass of wine,
go in the house and whatever. And

687
00:44:43.239 --> 00:44:45.400
it wasn't something we'd hear every single
night. Would be out there pretty much

688
00:44:45.400 --> 00:44:49.559
every night. I'd say maybe twice
a week you'd hear something like that.

689
00:44:50.440 --> 00:44:52.960
I think that same year, so
we're talking like two years ago. That

690
00:44:53.039 --> 00:44:59.159
same year, Like in the spring, it was still cool outside, but

691
00:44:59.320 --> 00:45:01.760
we have nothing but windows in the
loft where we sleep in the house,

692
00:45:02.000 --> 00:45:06.199
so we had the windows open.
I'd finished up the show, I'd had

693
00:45:06.199 --> 00:45:08.039
a good interview, I was writing
down some show notes and things before I

694
00:45:08.039 --> 00:45:14.519
went to bed. We hear probably
forty yards maybe fifty yards in the woods

695
00:45:14.519 --> 00:45:20.360
from the house, like Ohio Howell
type Howell. It ends with a bark

696
00:45:20.440 --> 00:45:24.039
on the end. It was super
loud, to the point where I felt

697
00:45:24.079 --> 00:45:29.239
it it was enough to scare the
shit out of Oh my goodness too,

698
00:45:29.320 --> 00:45:31.719
wow, it was what was that? I don't know what was that?

699
00:45:32.119 --> 00:45:35.360
Do you hear that? Yes?
I heard that. They're like, Rian,

700
00:45:35.440 --> 00:45:37.800
you're the guy who talks to people
about it. No, I'm not

701
00:45:37.920 --> 00:45:39.280
going out. I'm not going out
there. And that's what people asked me

702
00:45:39.320 --> 00:45:43.119
that did you go out and check? No? I did not. I

703
00:45:43.159 --> 00:45:45.719
did not want to see what it
was. I didn't want to get any

704
00:45:45.719 --> 00:45:49.039
closer to than we already were.
Of course, people said it was a

705
00:45:49.079 --> 00:45:52.119
person. No, it wasn't a
person, Like I said. We found

706
00:45:52.119 --> 00:45:54.880
the footprint about three weeks ago on
a hike, all the weird stuff,

707
00:45:55.079 --> 00:46:00.920
the tree breaks, the stacked full
crumb type things. Found a rock formation

708
00:46:00.039 --> 00:46:04.039
stacked at the top of the ridge, back in the back where we stop

709
00:46:04.039 --> 00:46:07.760
and usually have a snack in that
area. Then literally maybe two days later,

710
00:46:07.840 --> 00:46:10.480
I was a guest on another show
when I talked about this recently.

711
00:46:12.079 --> 00:46:14.599
We're in the country. I have
a tendency to get up and go out

712
00:46:14.599 --> 00:46:15.840
on the porch and pee off the
porch at three o'clock. Here you go.

713
00:46:16.039 --> 00:46:21.880
Yep. So I did that,
And I'd never heard anything that ever

714
00:46:21.920 --> 00:46:25.199
resembled a tree knock until that night. It was about three point fifteen and

715
00:46:25.280 --> 00:46:30.079
I hear what sounds like four power
knocks bam, and I'm like, what

716
00:46:30.159 --> 00:46:35.559
the hell is going on? Just
out of the blue, never heard it

717
00:46:35.599 --> 00:46:37.800
before. It was really fast,
and I'm thinking, okay, it's three

718
00:46:37.960 --> 00:46:40.360
fifteen now. I used to live
in Atlanta. Was a city of Atlanta

719
00:46:40.400 --> 00:46:44.119
cop right three o'clock in the morning. In Atlanta, you're alloable to hear

720
00:46:44.159 --> 00:46:46.840
anything. Not in Illinoorth, North
Carolina? Do they roll up the sidewalks

721
00:46:46.880 --> 00:46:50.719
at seven thirty on the weekdays here? And this was like a Wednesday.

722
00:46:51.360 --> 00:46:53.840
I don't know what it could have
been. I really don't like nobody's uphammering

723
00:46:53.880 --> 00:46:59.000
at that time of the day.
Nobody's doing construction across the ridge. I

724
00:46:59.000 --> 00:47:00.280
don't know, man, it was
just really weird. I didn't see what

725
00:47:00.360 --> 00:47:04.079
did it. I would call it
power knocks. It sounded like tree knocks

726
00:47:04.119 --> 00:47:07.400
to me, So I don't know, just really weird stuff. Have you

727
00:47:07.840 --> 00:47:12.719
contemplated putting up like any recorders around
yourew property? I've talked about that.

728
00:47:12.800 --> 00:47:15.320
Doug has been after me, David
Ellis has been after me for years to

729
00:47:15.320 --> 00:47:19.480
put it out to man, and
I'm going to do it. I'm ordering

730
00:47:19.519 --> 00:47:22.920
a couple of those. I'm definitely
going to take some to the outing with

731
00:47:22.960 --> 00:47:27.599
me in October up at Radium.
I'm going to order them and start using

732
00:47:27.639 --> 00:47:30.920
them here so I can get proficient
with them and understand them. So I'm

733
00:47:30.920 --> 00:47:32.760
going to start doing that and putting
those out on the property because it is

734
00:47:32.800 --> 00:47:36.719
a good idea. I would love
to have some of the stuff that we've

735
00:47:36.760 --> 00:47:39.400
heard captured on audio. It would
be amazing. But of course it's like

736
00:47:39.440 --> 00:47:43.480
everything else, and I'm really I've
said it plenty of times on the show.

737
00:47:43.760 --> 00:47:46.119
I'm apprehensive to even put it out
there because I am the dude with

738
00:47:46.119 --> 00:47:50.679
a bigfoot podcast, and then you
start talking about having things happen and people

739
00:47:50.679 --> 00:47:53.320
are like, I don't know about
that guy. I don't know. Yeah,

740
00:47:53.320 --> 00:47:57.159
I get it. If people listen
and people know me well enough,

741
00:47:57.760 --> 00:48:00.280
they know I'm nobs Like. I
just put it out there, is what

742
00:48:00.320 --> 00:48:02.320
it is. I don't make anything
up. You'll never hear me say anything

743
00:48:02.320 --> 00:48:07.440
definitive about bigfoot because I don't know
unless I know if I see it now,

744
00:48:07.440 --> 00:48:09.559
if I see it making a footprint, I'm gonna tell you, yeah,

745
00:48:09.639 --> 00:48:14.039
I casted that and I saw the
bigfoot that made it. But otherwise

746
00:48:14.039 --> 00:48:16.400
I'm just gonna say it looks like
a footprint. It could be could have

747
00:48:16.400 --> 00:48:21.039
been woodknock, I don't know.
Definitely wasn't a woodpecker at three fifteen in

748
00:48:21.079 --> 00:48:22.639
the morning, I can tell you, Yeah, man, that'd be bad

749
00:48:22.679 --> 00:48:25.960
news. Do you have any thoughts? So there's a topic that I love

750
00:48:27.320 --> 00:48:32.960
and I love talking to people from
a love Oklahoma Saasflavee Bigfoot that that love

751
00:48:34.039 --> 00:48:38.079
Florida County. Do you have any
thoughts about bigfoot in Oklahoma? I just

752
00:48:38.119 --> 00:48:43.239
love it so much, dude.
I have talked to so many people recently.

753
00:48:43.360 --> 00:48:49.519
It's turned into the Oklahoma Area X
Bigfoot podcast. It started with Daryl

754
00:48:49.599 --> 00:48:52.639
Collier, then it was Michael May's
and then it was Brian Brown and Matt

755
00:48:52.679 --> 00:48:55.559
Breut's actually coming on. Matt's coming
on at the end of the month.

756
00:48:55.599 --> 00:48:59.079
I've got an interview schedule with him. I'm gonna get to hang out with

757
00:48:59.159 --> 00:49:02.320
him at the Smoking Out Bigfoot conference
on Saturday, so that'll be fun.

758
00:49:02.320 --> 00:49:06.000
He'll be up there pedaling his books
and hanging out with Cliff and I'm going

759
00:49:06.079 --> 00:49:08.360
to get to hang out with those
guys Oklahoma Sasquatch is crazy. Man.

760
00:49:08.400 --> 00:49:13.559
I just had an interview with Randy
Harrington last night and oh yeah, Randy

761
00:49:13.599 --> 00:49:15.320
and I talked for about an hour
and a half and he has got some

762
00:49:15.599 --> 00:49:22.360
wild encounter stories from Oklahoma luf War
County, in particular at a campsite where

763
00:49:22.360 --> 00:49:27.519
he had his It's a crazy encounter. I don't know if you've heard it

764
00:49:27.599 --> 00:49:30.400
or not, or if you've talked
to Randy it is. It's the one

765
00:49:30.440 --> 00:49:35.119
where they unzip the Is it that
one? It's the one where he's in

766
00:49:35.159 --> 00:49:38.280
the truck. He's in the cab
of his truck and he's got everything blinded

767
00:49:38.320 --> 00:49:43.400
out. He's put curtains and things
up to fool the sasquatch into thinking he's

768
00:49:43.400 --> 00:49:46.599
not in the campsite because he's there
in like February. It's a whole wild

769
00:49:46.760 --> 00:49:51.960
story, but basically, here's rattling
on the trash can. Something's picking up

770
00:49:52.000 --> 00:49:54.480
and pulling the cinder block off of
a trash can lid and lifting it up.

771
00:49:54.880 --> 00:49:59.039
He looks out the front. He
peeks out his little blind that he's

772
00:49:59.039 --> 00:50:00.920
got set up in the cab of
his big dually pickup truck, and he

773
00:50:00.960 --> 00:50:06.400
sees two sasquatch. Then they go
around behind his truck. One of them

774
00:50:06.440 --> 00:50:09.519
climbs up on the bed of his
truck, looking over these ladder racks of

775
00:50:09.519 --> 00:50:14.199
his truck. It's crazy. It's
a crazy story. But that happened in

776
00:50:14.239 --> 00:50:19.679
a campside in Lafour County. I've
talked to him before. It was after

777
00:50:19.960 --> 00:50:25.280
I went out with Tate last August
to go squatching in Iowa and I captured

778
00:50:25.320 --> 00:50:30.800
something on audio where it unzips my
tent. Really messed with me for a

779
00:50:30.840 --> 00:50:32.519
few weeks, still messes with me. And I talked to Randy and he's,

780
00:50:32.519 --> 00:50:35.679
oh, yeah, they totally could
unzip stuff. And I'm like,

781
00:50:35.760 --> 00:50:38.719
oh, man, Randy, and
now you're freaking me out. That's gonna

782
00:50:38.719 --> 00:50:42.000
be a great episode. I'm looking
forwards to that. Man, that's good

783
00:50:42.039 --> 00:50:45.800
stuff. Oh boy, Hey,
I haven't asked this question for a long

784
00:50:45.880 --> 00:50:52.079
time, but you're an educated individual. I'm sure you have an awesome big

785
00:50:52.119 --> 00:50:58.639
foot bookshelf. What are your top
three go to squatching books? That's changed

786
00:50:58.679 --> 00:51:02.360
recently because I like to change it
up. I would say number one on

787
00:51:02.440 --> 00:51:07.280
the book list is probably I'm looking
at him now sasquatch legend, meat science.

788
00:51:07.960 --> 00:51:13.559
Nice. I do have the quantum
Bigfoot it's there. It's in the

789
00:51:13.639 --> 00:51:16.800
rotation because I think there's some things
to be gleaned there from some of the

790
00:51:16.840 --> 00:51:22.280
things that Ryan talks about. I
think the top three would be rounded out

791
00:51:22.320 --> 00:51:27.400
now with Matt Brewitt's book, The
Phenomenal Say is Wow, very cool.

792
00:51:27.400 --> 00:51:30.599
Okay, I have it right here
and it's next up to be read.

793
00:51:30.760 --> 00:51:34.000
I'm excited to dig into it.
Buckle your seatbelt, dude, you probably

794
00:51:34.000 --> 00:51:37.440
ought to get your thosaurus out.
Because Matt uses words that I had to

795
00:51:37.519 --> 00:51:40.000
look up myself. I talked to
him recently. I called him about a

796
00:51:40.079 --> 00:51:43.679
month or so back because I've got
a TV thing going on and I was

797
00:51:43.800 --> 00:51:46.360
interested in maybe him being a possibility
of being involved in it. So I

798
00:51:46.400 --> 00:51:50.039
called Matt up when we were talking
about something else and we started talking about

799
00:51:50.079 --> 00:51:53.840
podcasting. I just came back from
a conference here to North Carolina, and

800
00:51:53.880 --> 00:51:58.400
I told Matt, it's so funny
that I have so many listeners obviously for

801
00:51:58.519 --> 00:52:00.039
my home state that kind of follow
If they know I'm going to be somewhere

802
00:52:00.039 --> 00:52:02.599
in North Carolina, they try to
make it out if they can. And

803
00:52:02.679 --> 00:52:06.480
I probably had six or eight people
come up to the table, and I'd

804
00:52:06.480 --> 00:52:07.639
like to ask him, what's your
favorite episode of the show. What do

805
00:52:07.679 --> 00:52:10.519
you like so much about the show? If there's one like you asked me

806
00:52:10.559 --> 00:52:14.679
what stuck out to you? And
without fail, I had at least six

807
00:52:14.800 --> 00:52:17.719
or eight people that day say that. Dude. I can't remember his name.

808
00:52:17.760 --> 00:52:21.440
I think it was Matt. I
said, Matt Pruitt. They're like,

809
00:52:21.559 --> 00:52:24.440
yeah, what was that word at
the beginning of the show, And

810
00:52:24.480 --> 00:52:30.960
I said, vera similitude and they
go, yeah, verasamilitude. It's the

811
00:52:30.000 --> 00:52:36.559
funniest thing because they have the Apes
among Us podcast So Good. Madd had

812
00:52:36.559 --> 00:52:39.760
done an episode and it was right
before I think it was right before he

813
00:52:39.800 --> 00:52:42.840
put it out, right before he
came on the show the first time.

814
00:52:42.880 --> 00:52:45.599
A couple of years ago. I
heard the episode and he does this diatribe

815
00:52:45.639 --> 00:52:50.440
about vera similitude. I thought it
was brilliant. It was like a minute

816
00:52:50.480 --> 00:52:52.880
and a half. Two minutes after
he came on the show. I called

817
00:52:52.920 --> 00:52:54.320
him up a couple of days later
and I said, dude, I'm editing

818
00:52:54.360 --> 00:52:58.760
your show together. I want to
change the intro and I want it to

819
00:52:58.840 --> 00:53:04.679
be all about verisimilitude. Can I
use that audio from Apes among Us and

820
00:53:04.719 --> 00:53:07.840
play it? Absolutely? He said, you think people will be interested in

821
00:53:07.880 --> 00:53:12.519
that. It's amazing how it's stuck
to people. They probably still don't know

822
00:53:12.559 --> 00:53:15.719
what the word means, but they
like it because of the way that he

823
00:53:15.920 --> 00:53:17.559
used it. It was part of
I don't want to give anything away,

824
00:53:17.599 --> 00:53:22.719
but there is a part of Matt's
book where vera similitude comes up and he

825
00:53:22.760 --> 00:53:25.199
talks about what that means and what
it means to the Bigfoot communities. I

826
00:53:25.239 --> 00:53:28.800
just thought it was so cool.
But there are a lot of big words,

827
00:53:28.800 --> 00:53:30.880
and to his credit, I think
he starts out the book talking about

828
00:53:30.880 --> 00:53:34.400
that. And that's one of the
things we talked about before the book came

829
00:53:34.400 --> 00:53:36.960
out, when he was still getting
it done. People have been telling me

830
00:53:37.000 --> 00:53:40.000
for years, I need to dumb
down talking Bigfoot, and I'm just refusing

831
00:53:40.079 --> 00:53:43.719
to do it because I don't think
we have to do that. And I

832
00:53:43.760 --> 00:53:45.360
agree, man, I don't think
dumbing it down is going to help anybody.

833
00:53:45.400 --> 00:53:50.320
I think it raises the bar and
anybody who reads that book, and

834
00:53:50.440 --> 00:53:52.960
everybody I've talked to who has read
that book says the same thing. It's

835
00:53:53.000 --> 00:53:57.719
one of the most brilliantly written books
on the subject that they've ever read.

836
00:53:58.119 --> 00:54:00.280
And it goes into what it is, it could be, what it might

837
00:54:00.360 --> 00:54:04.800
be. There's so much stuff to
dig into, and Matt does it in

838
00:54:04.840 --> 00:54:07.480
a beautiful way as a really talented
writer. So I can't wait for you

839
00:54:07.519 --> 00:54:08.719
to read it, and I can't
wait for you to send me that text

840
00:54:08.719 --> 00:54:12.199
and let me know what you think
about it, because absolutely see if you

841
00:54:12.280 --> 00:54:14.840
like it as much as I did. Man, that's a really cool top

842
00:54:14.880 --> 00:54:17.760
three. I like that top three. That's awesome, Brian. Let's end

843
00:54:17.800 --> 00:54:23.239
with this. Then you've reminded me
because you mentioned the Smoking Mountain Bigfoot conference's

844
00:54:23.280 --> 00:54:27.880
coming up really quick, but you're
doing something really cool for that. Do

845
00:54:27.880 --> 00:54:30.840
you mind going over how you're going
to be involved with that conference. It's

846
00:54:30.880 --> 00:54:34.400
a really cool thing that you're doing. Yeah, it's really interesting. It's

847
00:54:34.480 --> 00:54:37.599
right up my alley. It's something
I've done a couple of times. I've

848
00:54:37.599 --> 00:54:39.960
been to that conference a couple of
times as just a spectator. I went

849
00:54:40.119 --> 00:54:44.119
the first year in twenty twenty one. Last year we were there as a

850
00:54:44.199 --> 00:54:45.840
vendor, and this year, Marty
and Nicky reached out to me and said,

851
00:54:45.840 --> 00:54:49.280
hey, we'd like you to be
a part of this. We'd like

852
00:54:49.320 --> 00:54:53.159
you to handle the encounters portion of
the show because they had Typically I think

853
00:54:53.159 --> 00:54:57.039
they would do some encounters after each
one of the speakers, so it's broken

854
00:54:57.119 --> 00:55:00.320
up throughout the program. I think
it's important because there's a lot of people

855
00:55:00.320 --> 00:55:04.719
who want to share their encounters live
in front of those people. Some people

856
00:55:04.719 --> 00:55:07.400
have never told their stories before and
they're going to do it for the first

857
00:55:07.400 --> 00:55:10.559
time on that huge stage in front
of three to four thousand people. So

858
00:55:10.719 --> 00:55:14.559
they asked me if I would handle
that, So I am at three point

859
00:55:14.559 --> 00:55:17.639
thirty on Saturday. I will be
handling the encounter's portion. We should have

860
00:55:17.679 --> 00:55:22.519
some really cool encounters to be shared. I'm really looking forward to it because

861
00:55:22.920 --> 00:55:27.199
normally the MC does it. RPG's
the MC this year again, and normally

862
00:55:27.320 --> 00:55:30.360
is just something sort of an afterthought
honestly that the MC handled. But to

863
00:55:30.400 --> 00:55:35.679
be able to actually sit down on
stage let the people have their moment is

864
00:55:35.760 --> 00:55:38.400
really important to me. I've already
had a couple of listeners actually at my

865
00:55:38.480 --> 00:55:40.760
show. I was talking to one. I was texting him back and forth

866
00:55:40.800 --> 00:55:44.320
before I got on with you,
who's going to be there to tell a

867
00:55:44.360 --> 00:55:45.880
story? And he's I'm nervous,
man, He's I don't think I could

868
00:55:45.880 --> 00:55:49.440
do it if you weren't going to
be on the stage. Well, I'm

869
00:55:49.480 --> 00:55:51.559
like, that's what it's all about, man, you don't have to be

870
00:55:51.599 --> 00:55:52.760
nervous. I got you, I
got you back. I'm right there with

871
00:55:52.800 --> 00:55:55.719
you every step of the way.
So I think that'll change the dynamic.

872
00:55:55.760 --> 00:55:59.519
That was my idea I told Marty, I think you need to have somebody

873
00:55:59.599 --> 00:56:02.639
as a mind on the stage walking
people through it, because it is a

874
00:56:02.639 --> 00:56:06.920
tough thing just to hand a microphone
to Joe who's never been up in front

875
00:56:06.960 --> 00:56:09.559
of anybody and talking and say,
hey, there you go. But when

876
00:56:09.559 --> 00:56:14.719
you have somebody who's willing to take
that journey with them and go right along

877
00:56:14.760 --> 00:56:17.000
with them every step of the way
physically on the stage, I think is

878
00:56:17.039 --> 00:56:21.280
going to make a big difference at
least I hope. So I'm really excited

879
00:56:21.280 --> 00:56:22.920
about it. I think you'll see
if you've been there before and you've seen

880
00:56:22.920 --> 00:56:25.840
how it's handled in the past,
I think you'll see a marked difference this

881
00:56:25.960 --> 00:56:31.760
year in how the encounters are highlighted
and really becomes part of the show.

882
00:56:31.920 --> 00:56:36.960
That's really exciting people that are attending
that are going to get a real treat

883
00:56:37.000 --> 00:56:39.360
for sure. I've never had so
many people ask me if I'm going to

884
00:56:39.400 --> 00:56:44.199
be at a conference that's the conference, and I had to say this year

885
00:56:44.320 --> 00:56:47.880
no, But we do have plans
to be there for the twenty twenty four

886
00:56:49.079 --> 00:56:53.199
conference. Will be traveling down from
Iowa to Gatlinburg, Tennessee for that just

887
00:56:53.199 --> 00:56:57.280
because it is such an amazing conference. So it'll be a good time in

888
00:56:57.320 --> 00:57:01.119
twenty twenty four. But Brian,
this is such a fun chat has been

889
00:57:01.320 --> 00:57:07.880
long overdue. Do you mind taking
a few minutes and just anything you want

890
00:57:07.920 --> 00:57:09.800
to throw out there how people can
keep up to date with what you're doing

891
00:57:09.920 --> 00:57:14.480
all that good stuff. Now is
definitely the time to throw it all out

892
00:57:14.519 --> 00:57:17.079
there. Sure, if you want
to listen to the show anywhere you listen

893
00:57:17.079 --> 00:57:21.639
to Bigfoot Society on any podcast app, you can get the show. We

894
00:57:21.719 --> 00:57:24.679
have a YouTube channel, Sasquatch Odyssey
podcast on YouTube. You can check it

895
00:57:24.719 --> 00:57:29.519
out there. We're not just my
show. There's tons of shows really,

896
00:57:29.559 --> 00:57:32.119
we're the network of shows. We
have the Paranormal Odyssey. In addition to

897
00:57:32.159 --> 00:57:37.039
Sasquatch Odyssey, I do a true
crime show called True Crime Odyssey, and

898
00:57:37.119 --> 00:57:39.599
we've added a couple of other shows
to our network. Recently, the Kentucky

899
00:57:39.760 --> 00:57:43.639
x Files. We've got Tyler,
Denny, and Josh, and we also

900
00:57:44.199 --> 00:57:46.559
just had the guys from the Basement
Hangout Chat and Bob joined the network.

901
00:57:47.239 --> 00:57:52.000
They're all going to be with me
in Tennessee at the Gallinburg Conference. So

902
00:57:52.039 --> 00:57:54.639
we're going to have a huge time
at the booth. So if anybody's in

903
00:57:54.679 --> 00:57:58.239
that area and you want to come
by and see us, make sure you

904
00:57:58.280 --> 00:58:00.199
stop by the booth. And we're
the first booth on speaker row. You

905
00:58:00.280 --> 00:58:02.519
can't miss us. As soon as
you walk out, you're gonna see us.

906
00:58:02.559 --> 00:58:06.719
We're gonna be right in your face
right across from Seth Breedlove and those

907
00:58:06.760 --> 00:58:08.960
guys at Small Town Monsters where they're
a huge booth. Like I said,

908
00:58:08.960 --> 00:58:12.840
anywhere you can get your podcast,
you can check out Sasquatch Odyssey. We'd

909
00:58:12.840 --> 00:58:15.360
love to have you listen. Give
those other guys a listen to. They

910
00:58:15.400 --> 00:58:21.440
do some fantastic shows for my TikTok
fans follow Sasquatch Odyssey on TikTok because they've

911
00:58:21.480 --> 00:58:23.559
got some he gets got some really
cool stuff over there, and we need

912
00:58:23.639 --> 00:58:27.880
more people to be hanging out with
him on TikTok. But Brian, thank

913
00:58:27.920 --> 00:58:30.719
you so much for coming on.
This has been a great chat. Have

914
00:58:30.000 --> 00:58:34.320
a great rest of your night,
and I can't wait to see what you

915
00:58:34.360 --> 01:00:00.280
come up with next. Man awesome
YouTube, Jeremiah, I appreciate it. Unity