WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.320 --> 00:00:08.119 You're listening to KFI A six on demand. Joe, Welcome to the Jesus 2 00:00:08.199 --> 00:00:11.199 Christ Show. Hey, how you doing. I'm good, Joe? What's 3 00:00:11.199 --> 00:00:15.759 going on? We got a question for you? What does the Bible talk 4 00:00:15.800 --> 00:00:20.359 about? You know, how do you go about forgiving someone for you feel 5 00:00:20.359 --> 00:00:24.879 like they're living a whole lie? I mean, my question to you is 6 00:00:24.960 --> 00:00:29.519 that I've got a seventeen year old daughter, okay, and where I'm living, 7 00:00:29.879 --> 00:00:34.600 she decides that she's grown and she wants to run off. Okay. 8 00:00:34.679 --> 00:00:37.880 I don't have a problem with people growing up and leaving the house. Sure, 9 00:00:38.240 --> 00:00:41.240 I got a problem with when I go to clean her bedroom and how 10 00:00:41.280 --> 00:00:47.200 she's doing it. I find liquor bottles in her room. I found a 11 00:00:47.240 --> 00:00:52.200 diary that talks about having all these different affairs with all these boys that she's 12 00:00:52.320 --> 00:00:57.880 keeping notes of. Because of that, I can't even bring myself to talk 13 00:00:57.920 --> 00:01:02.200 to a kid. And you know, I just don't know her. I 14 00:01:02.240 --> 00:01:03.719 mean, how do I go back dealing with that? Well? There, 15 00:01:03.879 --> 00:01:07.599 you you still have to be the example. Either you trust the tools that 16 00:01:07.680 --> 00:01:11.319 you gave her or you don't. Do you feel like you you gave her 17 00:01:11.359 --> 00:01:17.200 your best as you raised her? Yeah, but I like that. Well, 18 00:01:17.239 --> 00:01:22.000 I just feel that that everything that you know this she is alive. 19 00:01:22.439 --> 00:01:26.599 I mean that I don't even know her. Okay, well there's there, 20 00:01:26.599 --> 00:01:29.920 but there's there's things that you rebelled against, and there's things that you did 21 00:01:30.439 --> 00:01:34.400 as as a young person, and there was it didn't mean that, you 22 00:01:34.400 --> 00:01:37.359 know, throw the baby out with bathwater. But can I can I can 23 00:01:37.400 --> 00:01:41.680 I say something? Of course to the argument to that is is not really 24 00:01:42.959 --> 00:01:47.120 because I know everybody says this, but in reality, I was a good 25 00:01:47.200 --> 00:01:49.439 kid. I never did any of that stuff. And your parents, your 26 00:01:49.480 --> 00:01:53.719 parents would say amen to that, Yes they would, good they would. 27 00:01:53.879 --> 00:02:00.359 Is because this I ever since I was nine years old, I wanted to 28 00:02:00.400 --> 00:02:05.439 be a pastor. That's all I ever did is dream, read and eat 29 00:02:05.519 --> 00:02:09.599 Bible. But this situation just throws me for a loop. Okay, well, 30 00:02:09.639 --> 00:02:14.280 then do you feel that you're a bad parent? Yes, I do. 31 00:02:14.560 --> 00:02:19.280 Okay, Then there there's there's the flaw that you didn't give her the 32 00:02:19.319 --> 00:02:23.280 tools. Maybe maybe your diet was a little too condensed if you were eating, 33 00:02:23.319 --> 00:02:27.360 sleeping, and drinking the Bible. So it's basically my font. No, 34 00:02:28.039 --> 00:02:30.840 she's a free creature of free will. What I want you to receive 35 00:02:30.960 --> 00:02:34.520 is because you're the one calling. Is something that we can we can do 36 00:02:34.599 --> 00:02:38.039 with you because she's not calling she doesn't want help or doesn't care. Oh 37 00:02:38.159 --> 00:02:42.719 no, she do. One time she ever calls is when you know she 38 00:02:42.759 --> 00:02:46.400 wants to curse at her mother, or she wants something you know, or 39 00:02:46.919 --> 00:02:49.080 or something. And I just really be honest with you, I don't know 40 00:02:49.120 --> 00:02:51.159 how to deal with it. I can't even I can't even talk to the 41 00:02:51.240 --> 00:02:54.000 kid. Well you can, you can forgive and not reconcile. I mean, 42 00:02:54.080 --> 00:02:57.680 you can forgive her because I don't want it to eat away at you. 43 00:02:57.919 --> 00:03:00.639 It's not going to help you to have this festering. And you you've 44 00:03:00.680 --> 00:03:04.080 got to trust that you gave her the best tools you can and if and 45 00:03:04.120 --> 00:03:07.479 if there's a delayed reaction to the tools that you've given her and she's not 46 00:03:07.520 --> 00:03:10.439 receiving them now, uh, then she'll receive them later. You know, 47 00:03:12.680 --> 00:03:17.840 heaven willing. But you you you know, maybe the fact that you were 48 00:03:17.879 --> 00:03:22.800 strict, or maybe that you know when people are forced certain things, they 49 00:03:22.919 --> 00:03:25.039 you know, down their throat, they tend to throw up. So you 50 00:03:25.120 --> 00:03:30.719 don't know what she's going through. You consider down and you can you can 51 00:03:30.800 --> 00:03:32.319 find out if it has to deal with you say, I'm just curious. 52 00:03:32.439 --> 00:03:37.400 This is this is not the way I raised you, and if I failed 53 00:03:37.400 --> 00:03:39.919 you, I want to know to make me a better person. I understand 54 00:03:39.919 --> 00:03:43.599 that, Jesus. But my thing is is that you know, I don't 55 00:03:43.599 --> 00:03:46.080 know how you would have dealt with it because I, on the other hand, 56 00:03:46.120 --> 00:03:51.439 you know, she moved fifteen hundred miles away from me and now she's 57 00:03:51.479 --> 00:03:54.400 living with some boys. And I'm telling you, I don't know that I 58 00:03:54.400 --> 00:04:00.879 would have did anything different than Joe. Every every Joe, every single one 59 00:04:00.919 --> 00:04:06.280 of my children went astray, every single one of them. Boy, you 60 00:04:06.439 --> 00:04:11.080 appreciate your time, and I'm trying to deal with this and you are, 61 00:04:12.039 --> 00:04:15.919 but don't don't beat her up for being individual. You know, I gave 62 00:04:15.960 --> 00:04:18.199 people free will and there some of them are going to use it in the 63 00:04:18.240 --> 00:04:23.120 wrong way. And you all you have to do. But if you if 64 00:04:23.160 --> 00:04:26.959 you become an introvert, if you reject her. Now I'm not saying you 65 00:04:27.000 --> 00:04:30.279 condone what she's doing. I'm not saying you give her a platform to do 66 00:04:30.360 --> 00:04:31.959 it. I'm not saying you give her the tools to do it. But 67 00:04:32.120 --> 00:04:40.160 if you cut off the only door to healthy living in her life, then 68 00:04:40.199 --> 00:04:44.759 you give her to the wolves. So and that it sometimes is the right 69 00:04:44.759 --> 00:04:48.319 thing to do, but it's a rare exception. So you have to continue 70 00:04:48.360 --> 00:04:54.519 Joe with your wife the strength of you two as her parents. Be good 71 00:04:54.600 --> 00:04:59.800 parents, be strong, reminder that you love her, Remind her that that 72 00:04:59.839 --> 00:05:03.319 you house is a sanctuary. But that the reason why you've taught her not 73 00:05:03.439 --> 00:05:06.040 to do those things, or the reason why you tried to steer her away 74 00:05:06.040 --> 00:05:11.120 from those things, was for her own protection, not to be a killjoy, 75 00:05:11.199 --> 00:05:15.720 and that parents are human too, and you only want what's best for 76 00:05:15.800 --> 00:05:19.600 her. But if she makes those decisions, if God respects her to make 77 00:05:19.639 --> 00:05:24.439 those enough to make those decisions, you have to as well, as hard 78 00:05:24.480 --> 00:05:27.160 as it is for a parent, Joe. But the fact that you'd pick 79 00:05:27.240 --> 00:05:33.040 up the phone and call shows you care, shows that she's important. Remove 80 00:05:33.120 --> 00:05:38.240 that before it becomes sin to you, though, don't let don't harbor that 81 00:05:38.319 --> 00:05:42.480 anger towards her. Hate the things that she's doing, but do not hate 82 00:05:42.480 --> 00:05:46.759 her. I know that saying is often used and confused. As far as 83 00:05:46.839 --> 00:05:49.319 you know, hate the sin, love the sinner, and people go, 84 00:05:49.399 --> 00:05:54.279 how can you separate the two, Well, God did it, so can 85 00:05:54.319 --> 00:05:59.920 you? You can find a way to continue to guide her through your action 86 00:06:00.000 --> 00:06:03.000 and your actions of love. One Peter three, p. Fifteen says that 87 00:06:03.040 --> 00:06:08.480 people will ask you questions about the hope that lies within you because of the 88 00:06:08.480 --> 00:06:11.240 way you live. You live a certain way. People are going to look 89 00:06:11.240 --> 00:06:14.000 at you and say, well, how can you deal with that? And 90 00:06:14.199 --> 00:06:17.800 she knows what she's doing is wrong. She's not stupid, she's rebellious. 91 00:06:17.839 --> 00:06:21.720 There's a difference. So she's going to wonder, how can you still love 92 00:06:21.759 --> 00:06:27.600 her? Because maybe she has issues with herself? How can you still love 93 00:06:27.600 --> 00:06:30.199 her when she's when she doesn't even love herself, when she's going through her 94 00:06:30.199 --> 00:06:35.600 own issues, And that's going to be an important lesson and tool for her. 95 00:06:36.079 --> 00:06:41.000 But you can't just want to control her because that's not godly either. 96 00:06:44.720 --> 00:06:48.079 Troy, Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show. Good morning, How are you 97 00:06:48.160 --> 00:06:53.519 today? I am well, Troy? How can I help you? Well? 98 00:06:54.240 --> 00:07:00.800 My situation is is that I have a father that he confesses to be 99 00:07:00.839 --> 00:07:08.759 a Christian, and which I am as well, But for as long as 100 00:07:08.759 --> 00:07:15.480 I've known him, he's been addicted to alcohol and drugs, and to date 101 00:07:16.759 --> 00:07:23.560 he is estranged from the four sons he has left, and I'm the only 102 00:07:23.600 --> 00:07:28.480 one that has tried to reach out to him, and I've tried to say 103 00:07:28.560 --> 00:07:35.160 everything that I could say to get him to see how the living the life 104 00:07:35.199 --> 00:07:40.560 that he lives is contrary to what it means to be a Christian. Okay, 105 00:07:40.639 --> 00:07:43.879 so when you point something out to him, how does he respond? 106 00:07:46.000 --> 00:07:53.079 Not very well at all. He at different times he flips out and calls 107 00:07:53.160 --> 00:08:01.319 me every name that he can think of, and other times he just he 108 00:08:01.439 --> 00:08:05.920 comes back with other Bible verses and oh, yeah, that he knows, 109 00:08:07.279 --> 00:08:09.519 he already knows it all, and that I don't need to preach to him. 110 00:08:11.560 --> 00:08:16.439 But I could be like my other brothers and just disavow him and never 111 00:08:16.519 --> 00:08:22.920 talk to him again. But the Christian in me and I feel a strong 112 00:08:22.120 --> 00:08:28.519 urge to reach him at some level at some point. But it's just like 113 00:08:28.759 --> 00:08:35.039 nothing that I have said or done has has worked at all and has only 114 00:08:35.120 --> 00:08:41.159 had the totally opposite effects. Yeah, you probably know the verse well, 115 00:08:41.279 --> 00:08:48.200 Mark six' four. I said, a prophet is not without honor except 116 00:08:48.200 --> 00:08:50.159 in his own town, among his relatives, and in his own home. 117 00:08:52.320 --> 00:08:56.840 So even if you have good words for people and things that are helpful to 118 00:08:56.919 --> 00:09:03.000 them. In your own home, no one listens you could you could go 119 00:09:03.159 --> 00:09:09.120 out somewhere and preach on a on a corner and people just come to Christ 120 00:09:09.639 --> 00:09:15.559 in hoardes and then go home and no one listens to you. So it 121 00:09:15.679 --> 00:09:22.960 is really difficult to be in a family situation and have someone listen to you. 122 00:09:22.039 --> 00:09:26.840 The likelihood of it coming from you is slim to none. But it 123 00:09:26.879 --> 00:09:33.440 doesn't mean that it's not a righteous endeavor to continue to be an example. 124 00:09:35.200 --> 00:09:41.399 There's no trickery or magic to it. It's about honesty and persistence. It's 125 00:09:41.440 --> 00:09:46.279 about love and care. Not not trying to teach him, but show him 126 00:09:46.320 --> 00:09:50.840 being being the good person, keeping those things out of your life, doing 127 00:09:50.919 --> 00:09:56.519 something that shows him that you care, And you can ask him point blank. 128 00:09:56.600 --> 00:10:00.240 You can say, you know, if I was living this life, 129 00:10:00.000 --> 00:10:05.279 I was doing these things, if the roles were reverse, would you care 130 00:10:05.320 --> 00:10:09.919 about me? Would you would you want me to stop? Would you ask 131 00:10:09.200 --> 00:10:13.480 me what would you do? And tell him say, I will do exactly 132 00:10:13.480 --> 00:10:18.919 what you tell me to do. The relationship that I've had with him, 133 00:10:18.240 --> 00:10:24.279 there was a time where I was right there in it with him, and 134 00:10:26.960 --> 00:10:31.440 I wouldn't say it's a spiritual awakening, because I've always had you in my 135 00:10:31.519 --> 00:10:35.039 life. But there were times in my life where I ignored you and I 136 00:10:35.159 --> 00:10:43.679 went on a path of basically did what I wanted when I wanted, and 137 00:10:43.799 --> 00:10:48.799 it didn't really take any sudden impact of anything to happen to bring me back. 138 00:10:50.919 --> 00:10:58.440 I went through treatment, and since I totally have been born again and 139 00:10:58.480 --> 00:11:03.279 repented and has lived my life towards your way, and I witness to him. 140 00:11:03.960 --> 00:11:09.240 The miracles that have happened in my life and with my wife and my 141 00:11:09.360 --> 00:11:16.440 children and the life that we have today are a direct response of listening to 142 00:11:16.480 --> 00:11:20.879 God and following his will for our lives. Okay, so so so let 143 00:11:22.320 --> 00:11:26.799 that and and praise God. That is wonderful. So what did your dad 144 00:11:26.840 --> 00:11:33.559 have to tell you to make you do that? My father didn't tell me 145 00:11:33.639 --> 00:11:39.679 anything exactly exactly. So God still spoke to you, right, Yes, 146 00:11:39.879 --> 00:11:45.639 God loved you through the whole thing. Yes, then why aren't you trusting 147 00:11:45.639 --> 00:11:50.759 God to do that with your dad? I never thought of it like that? 148 00:11:58.639 --> 00:12:03.879 Be an example. Thank you. Be strong. He sees everything that's 149 00:12:03.919 --> 00:12:07.879 going on. He's not a stupid man, and he sees and he knows 150 00:12:07.919 --> 00:12:13.600 that God loves him, he is distant from God. You're absolutely right. 151 00:12:13.600 --> 00:12:16.720 There is nothing you said that is incorrect. You're absolutely right about everything you 152 00:12:16.759 --> 00:12:20.159 said. You're absolutely right as to what he needs to do. You're absolutely 153 00:12:20.240 --> 00:12:24.799 right about all of that. But it doesn't matter. What matters is where 154 00:12:24.799 --> 00:12:31.600 his heart is. And sadly, he may reject God God's hand throughout the 155 00:12:31.759 --> 00:12:35.000 entirety of the process, and it may end poorly, but it doesn't have 156 00:12:35.080 --> 00:12:39.120 to. And I didn't with you, and God reached out to you over 157 00:12:39.159 --> 00:12:41.480 and over again, and eventually you heard. It didn't come necessarily from a 158 00:12:41.519 --> 00:12:46.960 person, and it didn't come from him. It came from your relationship with 159 00:12:46.000 --> 00:12:50.480 God that even when it was holding on by a thread, it was still 160 00:12:50.519 --> 00:12:56.879 there. And God loves him more than you ever could and vice versa, 161 00:12:56.960 --> 00:13:05.960 and he will reach out to him and you need to trust that. Thank 162 00:13:07.000 --> 00:13:11.200 you, You're welcome, Go in peace, and I'm very proud of you. 163 00:13:11.240 --> 00:13:18.720 What a wonderful story. Steve Stephen, Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show. 164 00:13:18.960 --> 00:13:20.159 Hey Jesus, how are you? I am good, sir, how 165 00:13:20.159 --> 00:13:22.919 are you? I'm very well? Thank you very much. I just had 166 00:13:24.159 --> 00:13:31.279 a really quick question about about laws that are made by holy people or supposedly 167 00:13:31.320 --> 00:13:35.519 holy people, and how we're supposed to integrate them, integrate them to our 168 00:13:35.600 --> 00:13:39.320 lives, like early Church father type stuff, for exactly like the Pope making 169 00:13:39.399 --> 00:13:43.360 up the Seven Deadly Sins, or or Dante's version of Hell in the Inferno. 170 00:13:43.919 --> 00:13:48.519 Strangely enough, Dante in the Divine Comedy, they actually regurgitate the same 171 00:13:48.639 --> 00:13:52.120 seven deadly sins exactly. You know, But are they listed anywhere in the 172 00:13:52.120 --> 00:13:56.840 Bible? Is my question? Well, here's the thing. There's there's a 173 00:13:56.919 --> 00:14:01.960 difference between is it in the Bible and is the truth the truth? I 174 00:14:01.960 --> 00:14:03.159 mean, there are things, there are things that are true that aren't in 175 00:14:03.200 --> 00:14:07.600 scripture, but they're still true. So as far as them being the seven 176 00:14:07.679 --> 00:14:13.120 deadly sins, No, it gets confusing because people think, well, first, 177 00:14:13.240 --> 00:14:18.240 are they truly deadly? Does that mean that these are unpardonable sins? 178 00:14:18.279 --> 00:14:22.559 No, there's only one unpardonable sin in scripture, and that's referred to as 179 00:14:22.600 --> 00:14:28.120 blasphemy the Holy Spirit, and essentially that's rejecting God unto death. They so 180 00:14:28.240 --> 00:14:33.720 it's a misnomer that they're deadly sins in that sense. However, Scripture talks 181 00:14:33.039 --> 00:14:39.879 about in Proverbs sixteen through nineteen, it says, and you've probably heard this 182 00:14:39.120 --> 00:14:45.360 a dozen times, there are six things the Lord hates, seven that are 183 00:14:45.360 --> 00:14:50.279 detestable to him. Haughty eyes, a lying tongue, hands that shed innocent 184 00:14:50.320 --> 00:14:54.799 blood, a heart that devises wicked schemes, feet that are quick to rush 185 00:14:54.840 --> 00:14:58.480 into evil, a false witness who pours out lies, and a man who 186 00:14:58.480 --> 00:15:01.639 stirs up dissension among his brothers. But that's not the seven deadly sins. 187 00:15:01.919 --> 00:15:05.679 No, so you know, vaguely, some of them might fit in. 188 00:15:05.000 --> 00:15:09.440 The interesting thing is there is never, there isn't a list anywhere in scripture 189 00:15:09.480 --> 00:15:13.519 of those seven deadly sins being referred to as the seven deadly sins. Absolutely 190 00:15:13.600 --> 00:15:18.559 right, But every sin, just about every sin that you could commit, 191 00:15:18.639 --> 00:15:22.679 falls into one of those seven. Yeah, so in that sense, yeah, 192 00:15:22.679 --> 00:15:28.840 they're true. It was. Here's here's my here's my thought though, 193 00:15:28.080 --> 00:15:31.679 I mean, wouldn't we be in a constant cycle of sinning and then an 194 00:15:31.759 --> 00:15:37.080 absolution? Would we have to go through the whole process if we commit one 195 00:15:37.120 --> 00:15:43.200 of these sins or or something to that effect. I'm just it's just an 196 00:15:43.240 --> 00:15:46.519 actual If we go out and we tell a lie, I'm not I'm not 197 00:15:46.639 --> 00:15:52.840 saying that that it's it's going to happen. But let's say we do something 198 00:15:52.879 --> 00:15:56.360 that's wrong and then we go and absolve ourselves, and we don't learn from 199 00:15:56.360 --> 00:16:00.360 and we do it again, we'd be in a constant cycle of Yes. 200 00:16:00.399 --> 00:16:03.879 As a matter of fact, some of the early Church was If you read, 201 00:16:03.720 --> 00:16:07.919 you know, some of the epistles, you'll find that some of the 202 00:16:07.960 --> 00:16:14.559 concerns of the apostles at the time were identical to things that go on today, 203 00:16:14.639 --> 00:16:18.639 and much of it ties into that concept of wait a second, So 204 00:16:18.840 --> 00:16:22.519 as a Christian, you've got like a license to sin. You just got 205 00:16:22.559 --> 00:16:27.039 to say sorry after every time exactly. And no, that would be a 206 00:16:27.120 --> 00:16:33.399 huge problem because the concern would be that it's now it stops being the original 207 00:16:33.399 --> 00:16:36.679 sin that you're practicing, whether it's lying or whatever, and now it becomes 208 00:16:36.720 --> 00:16:41.440 rebellion. So if you are constantly in that state, then you start falling 209 00:16:41.480 --> 00:16:45.919 into feet that are quick to rush into evil, and a man who stirs 210 00:16:45.000 --> 00:16:49.559 up dissension amongst his brother and a false witness who pours out lies that are 211 00:16:49.639 --> 00:16:56.440 different from just lying, because lying is going to occur, You're going to 212 00:16:56.480 --> 00:17:00.519 tell lies and that's part of your sin nature. You're going to be You're 213 00:17:00.559 --> 00:17:03.079 gonna you're going to sin in this life. You're not gonna stop sinning ever 214 00:17:03.240 --> 00:17:10.519 in this life. But your desire is to seek a path that isn't filled 215 00:17:10.599 --> 00:17:15.480 with sin. So in that process, you are constantly pointing, you know, 216 00:17:15.599 --> 00:17:18.519 pointing to true north. But your compass is gonna, you know, 217 00:17:18.599 --> 00:17:21.880 go off. If you are in a state of rebellion. It's like a 218 00:17:21.960 --> 00:17:25.279 parent. I mean, if if a kid crashes the car, uh, 219 00:17:25.359 --> 00:17:27.200 then a parent goes. You know, there's accidents happen. You're okay, 220 00:17:27.279 --> 00:17:30.599 the other person's okay, it's fine, Maybe they'll get them another car. 221 00:17:32.039 --> 00:17:36.640 But if the person continues to crash the car, they probably don't care about 222 00:17:36.640 --> 00:17:38.319 the parents, nor do they respect them, nor do they care about the 223 00:17:38.359 --> 00:17:45.720 actual car itself, or the importance of physical goods and what it takes to 224 00:17:45.759 --> 00:17:49.400 actually create them and all of these things, and you would consider them to 225 00:17:49.440 --> 00:17:52.000 be in a state of rebellion, and it's not. It's no longer a 226 00:17:52.039 --> 00:17:56.240 state of love. If you are in that place, then you find it 227 00:17:56.400 --> 00:18:03.039 you kind of fall into that Hebrews six four context of somebody who never really 228 00:18:03.160 --> 00:18:07.359 came to an understanding or have a true relationship with God. You just profess 229 00:18:07.400 --> 00:18:11.680 it with your mouth and say it, but don't actually believe it. Yeah, 230 00:18:11.720 --> 00:18:15.799 you don't. Actually you haven't put it into place. And therefore it 231 00:18:15.799 --> 00:18:18.559 says in scripture in that context, if you fall away, you will never 232 00:18:18.599 --> 00:18:22.920 come back because you were never there. And so you know, you kind 233 00:18:22.960 --> 00:18:27.000 of you know people in what you never had. Sure, there are people 234 00:18:27.279 --> 00:18:30.160 you know in your younger days and you meet somebody and you fall in love, 235 00:18:30.200 --> 00:18:33.759 and you think you're in love, and you may have some of the 236 00:18:33.519 --> 00:18:37.519 emotional you know, brick or brack of love, but it's not truly, 237 00:18:38.119 --> 00:18:42.920 you know, unconditional, this kind of as far as humans can do this, 238 00:18:42.920 --> 00:18:48.079 this kind of understanding of one another. Then if you get into a 239 00:18:48.079 --> 00:18:51.640 bad relationship and it falls apart, there's a lot of young people that feel 240 00:18:51.640 --> 00:18:52.680 like, I'm never going to love again, I'm never going to get it 241 00:18:52.680 --> 00:18:57.519 in that relationship because it doesn't work because they've never experienced it. So those 242 00:18:57.599 --> 00:19:03.119 that kind of have partial relationationships with God are the hardest ones to bring back 243 00:19:03.559 --> 00:19:07.000 because they always felt like they were in it knee deep. So that's what 244 00:19:07.039 --> 00:19:12.200 scripture talks about now as far as people that are in love with God and 245 00:19:12.319 --> 00:19:18.200 seeking God's will and still sin, they it's not that you should flog yourself 246 00:19:18.400 --> 00:19:22.839 or you know, consider yourself to be a horrible person. All sins have 247 00:19:22.920 --> 00:19:27.000 been paid for. Every sin you'll ever do has been paid for. It's 248 00:19:27.039 --> 00:19:32.359 a matter of understanding who paid for it, and the purpose and what took 249 00:19:32.359 --> 00:19:34.359 place on the cross and all those things, and being in that state of 250 00:19:34.400 --> 00:19:41.599 appreciation and the desire to always wanting to please God and find God's will and 251 00:19:41.640 --> 00:19:45.920 that type of thing. It's not about having some sort of you know, 252 00:19:45.960 --> 00:19:48.960 get out of jail free card. Now I'm going to go do whatever I 253 00:19:49.000 --> 00:19:52.559 want, and you go do whatever you want and go be absolved in the 254 00:19:52.680 --> 00:19:56.240 year you're free to do it again. That's just not the way it's going 255 00:19:56.319 --> 00:19:57.680 to work. If you put God through through the test like that, it 256 00:19:57.720 --> 00:20:00.480 says, do not test your Lord God. If you put God to the 257 00:20:00.519 --> 00:20:04.200 test like that and make him jump through hoops, then it comes down to 258 00:20:04.240 --> 00:20:08.200 the point of you not caring about God to begin with, and the relationship 259 00:20:08.240 --> 00:20:12.839 is broken. So it's kind of a vicious circle there that yes, you 260 00:20:14.480 --> 00:20:18.480 through true repentance. The word repentance meaning to turn away from that. If 261 00:20:18.519 --> 00:20:22.240 you're not truly trying to turn away from it, then you're not in a 262 00:20:22.279 --> 00:20:26.599 state of repentance, and therefore you haven't received God in the first place. 263 00:20:26.240 --> 00:20:29.640 Well, thank you very much for all your help. I appreciate it. 264 00:20:29.720 --> 00:20:33.039 You're welcome. I was a very good question. A lot of things happen 265 00:20:33.160 --> 00:20:36.559 like that, Steven. You'll get a lot of things that kind of are 266 00:20:36.559 --> 00:20:41.359 taken from scripture and the early Church fathers, you know, Popes and Protestants 267 00:20:41.400 --> 00:20:47.079 alike. They condensed a lot of things in Scripture into ways that were palatable 268 00:20:47.279 --> 00:20:52.839 or easily understood because there wasn't necessarily a lot of literacy, so a lot 269 00:20:52.880 --> 00:20:55.880 of people didn't read. And you know, the Catholic Church takes a lot 270 00:20:55.920 --> 00:21:00.200 of hit for this too, because of statues and imagery, imagery in the 271 00:21:00.240 --> 00:21:04.279 buildings. A lot of that stems from people not being able to read. 272 00:21:04.640 --> 00:21:12.279 The desire of the early Church to teach using symbols and images. Now, 273 00:21:12.319 --> 00:21:17.240 some people may argue that it's got some parts of the Church have gone too 274 00:21:17.279 --> 00:21:19.359 far and it becomes idolatry or what have you. I'm saying that in its 275 00:21:19.759 --> 00:21:26.279 earliest stages, the desire was to help people understand and to learn principles in 276 00:21:26.319 --> 00:21:33.000 scripture by using physical imagery to encapsulate an entire thought into a picture. And 277 00:21:34.039 --> 00:21:41.359 Protestants and Catholics alike did those types of things where they condensed teachings or understandings, 278 00:21:41.400 --> 00:21:45.160 you know, even like the Sinner's Prayer or something like that, which 279 00:21:45.240 --> 00:21:48.799 is really scattered throughout the entirety of the New Testament, not just one particular 280 00:21:48.839 --> 00:21:53.279 scripture to help people understand. And the Seven Deadly Sins kind of is that 281 00:21:53.599 --> 00:21:57.960 falls into that category. You're not going to find that particular list in scripture 282 00:21:59.319 --> 00:22:03.319 as a list per se, but certainly are is that truth or the truths 283 00:22:03.359 --> 00:22:07.960 about those seven deadly sins I've talked about in scripture? Yes? Are they 284 00:22:08.000 --> 00:22:14.559 deadly because they you cannot be saved from them? Or God did not die 285 00:22:14.599 --> 00:22:18.599 on the cross and when I was nailed there and bled for you didn't pay 286 00:22:18.599 --> 00:22:22.400 for them. No, that's silly, that's they're not deadly in that sense. 287 00:22:22.400 --> 00:22:26.000 They're deadly in the sense that they will pull you away from God if 288 00:22:26.039 --> 00:22:33.519 you continue in a path that is lined with them. Brian, welcome to 289 00:22:33.559 --> 00:22:37.640 the Jesus Christ Show. Yes doing Jesus I am well, Brian. How 290 00:22:37.640 --> 00:22:44.640 are you? I'm doing well. I've been struggling with alcoholism for about the 291 00:22:44.720 --> 00:22:48.559 last the five six years of my life. Oh I'm sorry to hear that. 292 00:22:48.240 --> 00:22:51.680 Thanks, And I'm doing the best I can to work through it. 293 00:22:51.680 --> 00:22:55.759 I've gone through AA groups where they told me to find a higher power. 294 00:22:56.160 --> 00:23:00.519 I've tried going through my church groups, which is celebrate recovery to do that 295 00:23:00.559 --> 00:23:03.400 portion of it. And I've even tried to go through medical detox and everything 296 00:23:03.440 --> 00:23:08.000 else. And I'm finding abilities to get myself through some time. But the 297 00:23:08.079 --> 00:23:14.559 thing that keeps dragging me down, in my opinion, is I don't find 298 00:23:14.680 --> 00:23:18.759 forgiveness, and I'm having a trouble connecting with Jesus and God, who could 299 00:23:18.839 --> 00:23:25.359 potentially help me, in my opinion, help me kind of forgive myself for 300 00:23:25.640 --> 00:23:30.440 everything that I may have done bad during my struggle. So how do I 301 00:23:30.559 --> 00:23:34.319 try to rebuild that connection when I know I have let God down, and 302 00:23:34.400 --> 00:23:41.519 my family down and everybody else down. Your relationship with God is not based 303 00:23:41.559 --> 00:23:45.519 on how bad you are, but how good God is. So when you 304 00:23:45.599 --> 00:23:52.119 limit God and you say, okay, I know God is gracious, God 305 00:23:52.160 --> 00:23:56.000 is all knowing. God died on the cross. Prior to me ever doing 306 00:23:56.039 --> 00:24:02.039 any sin, God knew every sin I was going to do. If you 307 00:24:02.160 --> 00:24:08.119 look at it in the reverse and not how bad you were, but how 308 00:24:08.160 --> 00:24:12.640 great God is and how big and how good God is, then things come 309 00:24:12.680 --> 00:24:21.720 into focus when you start. If you start a spiritual journey solely by looking 310 00:24:21.759 --> 00:24:26.559 at yourself, you're still making yourself the God of your faith. You are 311 00:24:26.599 --> 00:24:30.519 not God. You are going to make mistakes. In Scripture, it's very 312 00:24:30.559 --> 00:24:33.559 clear that a righteous man is not a man that doesn't fall, but a 313 00:24:33.559 --> 00:24:38.039 man who falls seven times, and seven times gets up. The key. 314 00:24:38.240 --> 00:24:45.400 The key is that you're getting up. Can't You can't outdo God. You 315 00:24:45.400 --> 00:24:49.119 don't have God. You have me on the cross going I die. I 316 00:24:49.200 --> 00:24:55.920 died for all sins, well not this guy's, because those are just too 317 00:24:55.920 --> 00:25:02.920 heavy for me to take. H go ahead? Does that kind also come 318 00:25:02.960 --> 00:25:07.480 in effect? Because I that that that's just home, and that hits hard, 319 00:25:07.920 --> 00:25:11.920 But that knowing that I started to make that connection, I start to 320 00:25:11.920 --> 00:25:15.880 feel back together. But somehow I find myself back in that liquor store. 321 00:25:15.920 --> 00:25:19.160 I find myself buying that bottle, and I find myself doing that same effect 322 00:25:19.240 --> 00:25:25.880 again. Uh, will you see that as a slap in your face because 323 00:25:25.960 --> 00:25:29.680 I under I try to understand that, I try to live that, but 324 00:25:29.759 --> 00:25:33.160 yet I repeat that same bad behavior that is against your wishes for me. 325 00:25:33.519 --> 00:25:37.160 Well, you're not dealing with rebellion in the same way your body is. 326 00:25:38.240 --> 00:25:45.440 You know what's interesting is the word for sorcery that's translated into sorcery in scripture 327 00:25:45.519 --> 00:25:52.559 from the Greek is pharmacia. Now, pharmachia sounds like the word pharmacy, 328 00:25:52.519 --> 00:25:56.079 Yeah, And the reason why it sounds that way is that's where you get 329 00:25:56.079 --> 00:26:00.400 the word pharmacy. Is sorcery in scripture is talking about drugs, mostly people 330 00:26:00.440 --> 00:26:06.640 that were using drugs for mystic reasons. So you are under the influence of 331 00:26:06.680 --> 00:26:11.960 something in your life that you are battling with. It is not only a 332 00:26:11.000 --> 00:26:17.440 spiritual battle, it's a physical battle. It's an addictive battle. And so 333 00:26:17.640 --> 00:26:22.400 you can't fight it only on one front. You have to you know, 334 00:26:22.480 --> 00:26:27.200 how you become an alcoholic. You become an alcoholic one drink at a time, 335 00:26:29.359 --> 00:26:33.880 Yeah, and then one drink became six drinks, and six drinks became 336 00:26:34.039 --> 00:26:41.000 twelve drinks, and you kept doing that. And the reversing of that process 337 00:26:42.079 --> 00:26:45.480 is difficult. It's always easier to gain weight than it is to lose it. 338 00:26:45.559 --> 00:26:51.480 Right, so now you're reversing that process at least one drink at a 339 00:26:51.519 --> 00:26:55.720 time. And so I'm not asking you even to look at this as if 340 00:26:56.920 --> 00:27:03.359 you've got to stop. It's more like a chisel away at it and say 341 00:27:03.400 --> 00:27:08.160 today I'm today, I'm not gonna drink. Maybe tomorrow, And then when 342 00:27:08.200 --> 00:27:14.720 tomorrow comes, today, I'm not gonna drink. Maybe tomorrow. You're slowly 343 00:27:14.759 --> 00:27:17.960 you have to do that. But when you're not drinking, your mind is 344 00:27:18.119 --> 00:27:22.880 clearer to have a stronger relationship with God, a focused relationship with God. 345 00:27:23.440 --> 00:27:29.839 But don't beat yourself over. The devil loves this. The devil loves it 346 00:27:29.920 --> 00:27:33.359 for you to beat yourself up because the more you beat yourself up, have 347 00:27:33.759 --> 00:27:40.400 you ever owed someone money and then a week becomes a month, and a 348 00:27:40.440 --> 00:27:41.359 month becomes a year, and then all of a sudden you don't want to 349 00:27:41.359 --> 00:27:47.359 see them anymore because you're embarrassed by it. Well, you stop asching that 350 00:27:47.400 --> 00:27:49.880 phone, call, all that stuff, and maybe it's twenty bucks and you're 351 00:27:49.880 --> 00:27:53.079 gonna throw away an entire relationship over twenty bucks instead of picking up the phone 352 00:27:53.079 --> 00:27:56.799 and going. I feel like a jerk. I never paid you back. 353 00:27:56.920 --> 00:28:03.359 I'm embarrassed, and let's build a plan. You know, I don't want 354 00:28:03.400 --> 00:28:07.440 to I don't want this to separate us. I cherish your friendship. And 355 00:28:07.799 --> 00:28:11.680 it's gotten too bad, too far. But people don't do that. They 356 00:28:11.680 --> 00:28:15.400 beat themselves up and then they run away from it. Now the enemy knows 357 00:28:15.400 --> 00:28:21.319 this about humanity. So the enemy says, Gosh, you've really really done 358 00:28:21.359 --> 00:28:27.000 some horrible things. You've really hurt God. I wouldn't go around him right 359 00:28:27.039 --> 00:28:32.599 now, And that's a lie from the pit of hell. God wants to 360 00:28:32.599 --> 00:28:34.680 see you. God wants to hold you. God wants to kiss you and 361 00:28:34.799 --> 00:28:41.200 embrace you. And as you go through you know, detox as your body 362 00:28:41.359 --> 00:28:45.480 kicks this demon out and gets the chemical stuff out of your system and the 363 00:28:47.079 --> 00:28:49.079 habit and break down the habit, and God wants to be there with you 364 00:28:49.519 --> 00:28:55.839 in cold sweats and ugliness, in sadness and depression, all of that. 365 00:28:56.480 --> 00:28:59.759 And the devil doesn't want you to know that, because once you know that, 366 00:28:59.759 --> 00:29:04.799 that's how you get better. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. 367 00:29:04.880 --> 00:29:10.720 Thank you. You're welcome. Now, now go apply it and know 368 00:29:10.799 --> 00:29:14.480 that God is sitting with you. And God is holding you, and God 369 00:29:14.680 --> 00:29:18.640 wants you to kick this demon. And every lie of the devil needs to 370 00:29:18.680 --> 00:29:23.039 be thrown back in the devil's face. And even if you each day don't 371 00:29:23.160 --> 00:29:27.720 drink to spite the devil, that's a victory. Every drink you don't take 372 00:29:29.920 --> 00:29:33.920 just to spite the devil is a victory for God. Find a program that 373 00:29:33.000 --> 00:29:37.319 works well for you, that makes sense to you. Apply that program. 374 00:29:37.839 --> 00:29:41.039 Know that God loves you, forgives you, and died on the cross for 375 00:29:41.119 --> 00:29:45.920 you before you ever did any of this, knowing you would do all of 376 00:29:45.960 --> 00:29:51.079 it. And in that have peace and strength, and God be with you. 377 00:29:52.400 --> 00:29:53.960 KFI on demand