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Guess what. A recent study reveals
that most kids age eight to twelve years

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old aren't exactly buying into the whole
biblical worldview thing, and only three percent

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of them embrace all these seven cornerstones
of a biblical worldview. These cornerstones include

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beliefs in God, sin, and
trusting the Bible. Only about a third

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acknowledge their sins and seek forgiveness,
and just over a quarter do what they

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believe God wants to. The study
also suggests that kids beliefs are influenced by

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adults, and most adults aren't exactly
devout believers. So it seems like the

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younger generation is forging their own path
when it comes to faith. Let's see

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where their journey takes them. This
article is from The Christian Post by Ryan

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Foley on October twenty third, twenty
twenty three. And you know, this

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reminds me a lot of kind of
my journey. You know, when I

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started off in my youth just believing
what I was told, and then grew

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up, got older, was less
devout, and I think I just kind

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of adopted more worldviews that were kind
of all thrown together. But before we

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get into really what I feel I
want to see how this article struck the

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one and only Kelly Laughlin. Kelly, what do you think? Wow,

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I didn't know you're going to throw
it right to me. I one of

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the things that I that's my bad, Kelly, because I meant to throw

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out to Cydney and I skipped throw
it to her. Oh yeah, okay,

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I've found it interesting. No,
go ahead, you go, you

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go okay? No, no,
please please you Yeah. One of the

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most striking quotes from this article was
thirty five percent of the lessense thing that

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sin is real and significant. We
are all sinners by choice. And this,

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to me is the most harmful aspect
of this religion because not only it

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is totally illogical contradictory because you cannot
be responsible for something you are born with.

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That just doesn't make any sense,
but it removes any self worth to

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individuals, and at the same time, it steals victim blaming too the into

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the equation, and that's something that's
extremely harmful to a society at large and

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to individuals also, and it's very
very damaging on the psychological level. It

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also hits home because I have a
person who is close to me who is

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being harmed by their parents because of
their religious beliefs, and those religious beliefs

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they prevent the parents from seeking any
hell because they believe that well, because

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they believe they can't be harming their
child. You know, if I'm guided

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by the law, then I cannot
do anything wrong, basically, And so

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with everything that's going on right now
in the world, every time we speak,

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especially in the ACA, every time
we speak about religion, we often

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speak about the me in death that
it causes. But I think we need

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to speak more, much more about
the hundreds of millions in history who were

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miserable, sometimes for their entire life, because of the religion's dogmas. I

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think that's something we need to emphasis
because sometimes death is not the worst thing

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that can happen to you, a
lifetime of misery because of because of a

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belief, Sometimes it can be worse. And that's why we need to fight

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those beliefs and those indocrination techniques that
we see talked about in this article.

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And yeah, I think that's why
I'm here, especially myself, and I

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guess that it's the same for you
guys. Kelly. You know, one

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of the things I found finding about
the article was that the same organization have

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published these seven Cornerstones of a Biblical
worldview. The Cultural Resource Center at Arizona

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Christian University is also the same organization
that as young people aren't abiding by them.

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You know, first they're like,
hey, everybody follow these rules,

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And in a few months later they're
like, hey, this is bullshit.

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Nobody's following these rules. We want
them all to follow. And I just

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thought that was just kind of funny
that. And I had never heard of

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the seven Cornerstones before in my life, so I had to go look them

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up, and to be honest,
I wouldn't abide by them either. You

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know, quick rundown orthodox biblical understanding
of God. All human beings are sinful

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by nature. Knowing Jesus Christ is
the only means of salvation. The entire

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Bible is true, reliable, and
relevant, and is a moral guide.

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Absolute moral truth exists, and that
truth is defined by God. The ultimate

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purpose of human life is to no
love and serve God. Success on earth

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is being understood, is consistent obedience
to God. There you go, all

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seven of them. Every Sunday on
the Collins Shows we hear Christians calling in

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trying to make one of these points
and just being ridiculed by the hosts.

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I don't know why this organization and
doctor Barne I would have the idea that

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rational people would listen to these things
and abide by them. And let's face,

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the kids are getting educated a lot
faster and a lot more intricately,

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is now, that's not the word
of They're getting a lot more education,

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a lot faster than they did when
I was a young, young lad.

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And a lot of these people,
I'm sure Barne is my age, you

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know, a lot of these older
guys are like, hey, how come

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these kids don't buy into this bullshit
anymore? And yeah, I can see

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why, Aaron. The internet Internet's
been a great thing for learning things that

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you weren't necessarily taught by your parents
and sometimes your school. Depending where you

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live, the internet can be a
bad thing. You can go out there

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and learn about things that are patently
not true, you know, flat earth

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and things like that. But you
can also come to YouTube and find videos

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about the history of the Bible and
how and why it was compiled and put

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together. You can find, you
know, all sorts of fun stuff about

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challenging your dogmatic beliefs that you've been
you've been taught, and you know,

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I like these numbers aren't as low
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they're low enough that I kind of
like them. The one number that was

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concerning me, with sixty nine percent
of people believe still believe in God,

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I wish I wish that was a
little bit lower, because there's just there's

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just I learned, you know,
a few years ago and I started watching

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ACA shows. There's just no evidence. There's no good reason to believe that

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God exists. And which God are
you going to believe? The God of

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the Bible or the one of the
other hundreds of thousands, of hundreds or

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thousands of gods that people have proposed. I'm encouraged because historically the truth seems

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to win out over long periods of
time, over lifetimes. And you know,

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if you look at something like homosexuality, you know, fifty years ago

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it was considered a mental illness you
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now it's understood that's just how you
are, that's just how we come into

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the world as human beings. And
they're even Christian secx that have pastors and

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priests that are gay. That's a
lot, that's a big change in fifty

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years, and same sex marriage is
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by law passed by our Congress amazingly, but not by a Supreme Court

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decree. And yeah, I'm just
I'm so these numbers are the trend is

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encouraging to me, Jimmy, Well, what we see in this article really

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shouldn't be a surprise to any of
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are likely to reflect their parents' viewpoints, and they're often shielded from what the

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Bible actually teaches anyway, So I
don't believe that children, many children would

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think on their own that it's okay
to own other human beings or that women

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should marry their rapists. Right,
So that those might be complex concepts for

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a lot of youth, But I
think without outside influence, those kinds of

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things really wouldn't resonate with a normal
person. And I use normal loosely.

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But reacting to the research in this
article, doctor George Barna, a veteran

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evangelical poster, insisted that we know
what practices are most effective at developing young

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disciples. Yeah, exactly, to
the points that have already been made.

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You know, children are being educated
quicker and to better quality. And so

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the thing that it would take,
or what it would take to develop young

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disciples, is for parents to step
in and thwart that education and really hamper

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the potential that their children can have. And Barna continues, any parent can

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be part of the solution if they
so desire. It starts with the commitment

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to raising a spiritual champion, whatever
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that the adult consistently implements. The
plan calls for a steady diet of teaching,

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discussing and modeling biblical principles, and
evaluating how well the child is doing

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and understanding and applying those principles.
What this article is really uncovering is that

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religion is having trouble holding on to
their congregations because they are getting older,

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more educated, and leaving the church
and they don't have their parents to really

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lie to them and beat them down. And even the parents are leaving.

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It's precisely what the evangelical post during
this article states that in order to raise

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young disciples, children need a mass
of parents, grandparents, pastors, teachers,

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coaches, and other influencers. And
that's just not happening. Right.

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These people are necessary, right,
It takes a village kind of thing to

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prioritize biblical teaching in order to brainwash
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doctor Barna notices that people are less
willing to do that. We're moving on,

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and I say, we, you
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in general from religion. If you
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American society claim to be religious,
Aaron said, sixty nine percent. Only

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sixty nine percent today identify as religious. I had seventy. But even those

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who cling to these dog was as
it seems like it's dissipating, they actually

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were also seeing this increase in people
considering them spiritual, which is kind of

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annoying because we don't really know what
that even means. But I'll take it

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as a win. You know,
if somebody is gonna leave their religion and

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they're going to adopt other worldview kind
of you know, kind of positions and

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merge these different things that they're learning
and consider themselves spiritual, then hey,

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you know that is those are potentially
less children being molested in cathedrals, and

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maybe you know, less women being
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and so that's that's my take on
how I see religion going and how it

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relates to children. So, Cindy, what are your thoughts on that.

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Yeah, we know that if if
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before the age of eighteen, for
example, region would disappear in a couple

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generations. We know that there is
a reason why parents want to teach their

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religion to their children's because it's the
it's the only way to have them believe

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it's all these nonsense at a very
young age. And it's so hard,

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especially in the US, where this
idea that parents have almost limited rights regarding

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their children, it's almost impossible to
have this discussion. But we need to

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find a way to protect children,
and one of the ways is to give

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them access to as much education as
possible. And as you said, the

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internet does that, and the ACA
shows and other platforms on the internet they

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also participate in providing this education.
But we need to try and make it

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more palatable and more accessible to children
because they are the primary target of Christians

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and so we need to find better
ways to protect them. Kelly, I

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agree, I agree, that's yeah, I totally agree. One in fact,

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Barnie said that these influencers really love
or care about young peop people,

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then following through with effective discipline disciple
making practices should not be a significant obstacle.

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Really, I mean loving and caring
about young people, that's teaching them

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they're in an abusive relationship with an
imaginary being. It's just it doesn't make

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any sense to me. And and
like Principal two and three, really are

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they sound like the language that are
an abused partner with domestic partner would say,

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it's really, really horrible. Everybody
has mentioned something about people leaving religion,

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and I was wondering everybody thought was
the reason for that. I'm an

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XRFR agent recovering from religion. I've
talked to people. I talked to a

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lot of people on discord about it, so I have some personal views on

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it. No data to give you
or anything, but I was wondering,

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you know, I'd like to hear
what everybody else thought, and then I'll

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give you some of my personal experiences. So, Aaron, what do you

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think is causing this movement away from
religion. I think it's just we're learning

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so much more about the way the
world works. We have no you know,

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uh, and we have a lot
more knowledge now about where uh these

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religions come from and why they exist. And for me it was finally,

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I mean, I I was religious, even if I left the church,

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I still believed in God. I
was just angry and didn't want anything to

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do with him anymore. And it
wasn't until I started listening to ACA shows

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where I realized, Oh, there's
this thing called evidence, and there's actually

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no evidence that God actually exists,
because uh, it's all yeah, there's

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just there's just no evidence that God
is actually real. And that's what kind

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of of it? What do you
think it is making these young people leave?

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Though you think it's that that,
I think there be I think I

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think it's the internet personally. I
think they're being exposed ideas on the Internet,

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on YouTube, on TikTok or wherever
they're looking there. You can't you

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can't have an insulated kid anymore.
They're they're going to go to school and

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they're going to watch videos, and
they're gonna be on YouTube, and they're

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going to come across things and there, and it's yeah, and it's just

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like a like Daniel said in the
Bible, it's like a stone rolling down

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the hill. I'm just getting more
and more momentum, and it's it is,

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it's just gonna get more, more, more and more momentum. And

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who knows what this who knows what
the religious landscape in this country, in

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this world is going to look like
in fifty one hundred years. Yeah,

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yeah, I'm optimistic. And and
to continue on that to piggyback, if

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you will. The kids are recognizing
the bullshit, and it's because they're maybe

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through the internet, but uh there, their guard is let down a little

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bit and they're starting to see that
there are other people out there that they

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are accepting of and their faith.
This dogma tells them that they can't be

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accepting of them. And I think
a lot of the kids would just choose

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their friends over this ridiculous ideology that
can't be proven true. Right, And

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one thing that helps that along is
the lack of consistency in religion. There

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are so many holes and just we
covered one just in this show already because

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the article, or in this segment, I should say, the article said

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that we are all sinners by choice. Well I'm really never heard that.

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I always heard growing up that we
were naturally sinners, right, I mean,

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we're bad people. That's it.
We're bad people. And it's not

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by choice. It's because of the
choices that were made by Adam and Eve

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and we've just inherited that. And
we're gonna think ugly things and do ugly

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things, and we always have to
ask for forgiveness. But we have a

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choice. That's news to me.
And so that is just one minuscule way

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that things just don't line up,
But that is consistent across the board.

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They never line up. And I
think as children are exposed to more learning

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methods, to more ideas, to
more people that are unlike themselves or unlike

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their community, they're starting to see
these inconsistencies, you know, and in

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a greater variety. So, yeah, the world is shrinking. The world

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is much smaller than it used to
be. Right, it used to be

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you know, one hundred two years
ago, you were never exposed to anything

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but your tribe in your town or
wherever you live. And now our tribe

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is the whole world. You know, you get to see what's going on

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all over the world in the news, on the internet, everywhere, and

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so you get to see all the
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and just like, huh, interesting, not everybody's a Christian, not everybody's

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a Muslim, not everybody's this or
that, right, Interesting, He gets

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kind of get your thinking, Cindy. Yeah, yeah, I completely agree

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with that idea. Exposition to uh, two different ideas is also education.

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So yeah, that's that's part of
the of the idea. I one of

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the things that I heard a lot
was educational experience. Like kids would say,

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I have a friend who is gay, because the younger generation is a

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lot more open about being gay and
realizing this person is not a bad person.

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And yet all these religious people I
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bad and they're a good and they're
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that was one of the things I
heard. And another thing that I heard

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a lot was hypocrisy. Those people
over there, what they're doing is really

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bad, but when we do the
same thing, it's in the name of

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God, so it's all right.
And those were the two things that the

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two things that I heard the most
from people and still do on discord.

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So I thought, you know,
but but I I think you're right.

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I think education is a big part
of it. I think that's where we're

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headed, that maybe, hopefully more
and more and more KIP kids will be

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coming to their senses and reject these
bad, outdated teachings. Hopefully, and

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we want to hear more from you, a lot more from you, so

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