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David Young, part of the Paranormal
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us for a new episodes fortnightly on
Mondays. For now, let's start today's

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show. Hello and welcome to show
number two hundred to the Paranormal Dimensions.

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I'm David Young, two hundred shows. Well, okay, first of all,

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I must apologize. This show was
supposed to have gone out last week.

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Unfortunately I came down with a nasty
cold bug and I was sort of

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laid up for a couple for quite
a few days. So that's why we're

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running like for this show, So
for a week late, for this show,

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this special number two hundred show.
I've got a fantastic guest and she's

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been on the show a couple of
times. Before, and she's always welcome.

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Her name is Maria, and she'll
be telling us about the new discoveries

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of Stonehenge and much about its secret
history, and no doubt we'll go off

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elsewhere as well, So it's coming
up in a moment now. I was

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supposed to have attended the Parent Meet
South as well this weekend or this last

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weekend. Unfortunately, because I wasn't
well, I couldn't make it, so

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I was hoping to report from that, so that didn't work out. So

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I'm waiting now for and I think
that's called param Meat Midlands or thereabouts.

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I think that's right at the end
of June. So hopefully I will make

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that one and I will report back
on that one. It was quite disappointed

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because I've been looking forward to it
for months, but that's the way it

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goes. Anyway, back to this
show and show number two hundred with my

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special guest, that lovely Maria Wheeley. Hello, Maria, welcome back.

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Hi David, thank you for having
me back. It's a pleasure. No,

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it's my pleasure, and this is
show number two hundred that you're appearing

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on. I feel privileged, my
privileged to have you back on I mean,

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you're one of my favorite guests actually, so this is your this is

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your third appearance, so I want
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show number two hundred. On show
number one hundred, I had Andrew Collins

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on Believe It or Not. That's
nice, how lovely? So that was

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one hundred shows ago that it's amazing
that that had the time was gone.

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You know, it's amazing. But
the last time you were on the show,

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I know you were talking about this
book that you've just got coming out.

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It's just it's just coming out,
I believe now. Yeah. Yeah,

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it's been out since January, so
it's it's doing very well and it's

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had a lot of excellent feedback.
I've even had some archaeologists saying, you

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know, we they're not going to
openly admit their agree with me, but

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they like that I'm challenging them,
morbel So, I'm really thrilled to have

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a lot of support from not only
just people that really have supported me from

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a long time, but from other
people besides. It's been wonderful. It

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is. The book is called The
Secret History of Stone enge new discoveries that

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we don't know now. Oh yeah, So what are these new discoveries that

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we actually don't know well? For
instance, just to name a few,

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For example, with my legacy downs
in archive that I inherited from my late

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father who he inherited it going back
way to eighteen ninety nine. There were

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some reports by a creator of Stonehenge
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well early nineteen sixties as well,
and he noticed a few things about

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Stonehenge during excavations and spoke out about
them. For instance, one Richard Atkinson

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states that the Hengebank, that's a
bank that's around Stonehenge that was originally about

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six to eight feet tall, creating
a very secret in an arena. We

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see Stonehenge today as being open,
but previously in the past it would have

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been concealed within a six foot chalk
bank wall. Atkinson said to the British

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people that it was just chalk rubble, and the creator said, no,

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it wasn't. It was almost cut
out laser like so that the Henge Bank

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formed like a pudding bowl, going
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Stonehenge and coming back up again.
What sort of technology was used to cut

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out eight hundred feet and six foot
chalk wall. So he challenged what was

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being said at the time, and
I'm just saying, I've got an eyewitness.

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I've got an eyewitness at the deck
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Very interesting, and see the others. Sorry, Dave, Sorry, I

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was just going to say, I
don't know how much you can tell us

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that you don't want to give too
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book. It was four hundred pages, so I can give a lot away.

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But it's always good to read it
anyway, even after you've listened to

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such as as hell, oh absolutely, I go. I discovered, for

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instance, we're in the book all
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Stonehengs that has never before been documented. More than that, I discovered all

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of the shield maidens, female warriors, and again that's being acknowledged by archaeologists.

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And I discovered the high priest and
high priestesses as well. So that's

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just one chapter alone, so I
really cover a lot. And then I

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go on to take John Burke's work
on agriculture to a new level by looking

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at how we can enhance crop yields
by planting within a template that I believe

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the ancients used in the Bronze Age
that integrate Earth energy. So the book

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does cover an awful lot and many
other sites besides Stonehenge, but the focus

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is on Stonehenge. So these the
grid lines, we've got this thing coming

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up soon are the eclipse? Do
you think that's going to affect the earth

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greeds at all? Absolutely? I
was with Hamish Miller, a top master

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dowser, in nineteen ninety nine doing
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Earth energies. During the total eclipse
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what happens, and what we all
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of an eclipse is that the earth
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cannot even douse them, and then
they reboot and that's very very powerful.

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So little wonder that Stonehenge Phase one
was an eclipse predicted monuments. It would

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predict eclipses, as was noticed in
the nineteen sixties for instance. So at

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the time of Niclipse, earth energy
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wildlife, everything becomes a little bit
still. Not only have I noticed that

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Hamish Miller and other master douncers continually
since nineteen ninety nine. But Richard Hoagland,

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he's like yourself, David a radio
show hosts and has been on coast

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to coast numerous times. He's also
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at the eclipse. He claims that
they are torsion fields and he noticed exactly

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the same as me. They get
quieter and quieter and quieter. So even

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equipment can register what the effects are
on gridlines, lays and earth energies.

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But some grits, such as the
Curry net, which was discovered by doctor

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Manfred Curry in the nineteen fifties.
And if you imagine the Earth being surrounded

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by a net a bit like a
fishing net all the way around the globe

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that's parted by about three point five
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the planet, then they actually become
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So not everything is quiet. Some
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can become more jarred and powerful.
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there. I mean I think some
people may not. I don't fully understand

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it. The idea of grids across
the planet if they're natural or supernatural walk,

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No, they're very very natural.
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as I mentioned in the nineteen fifties, discovered that the Earth is covered by

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a grid system that is three point
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each each grid line that's going northeast
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it forms this kind of grid system, and he realized that if you're on

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that grid system, it can conjeal
your blood. He was a physician,

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he was a doctor, and so
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and that's the most researched grid system. So it's quite easy to visualize

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if you just imagine a fish net
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toxic. It's not a particularly good
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that all planets are that or was
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that's a conjecture. But I would
imagine that what doctor Manford carry and other

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master dowsers suggests is that the Curry
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through the kind of rotation as well
of the Earth. All of this combines

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to produce that net. But there
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grid that was discovered by dot to
Ernest Hartman again in the nineteen fifties,

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very much a pioneer and era or
dowsing with physicians and doctors. He claimed

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that particular grid was generated in the
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we have to look at different grids
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is similar to Earth and can generate
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a magnetic field, then yes it
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has an ionosphere, then yes it
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the Heartman grid. And the Heartman
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when it's times of earthquake or you
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erupting, et cetera, then the
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at most time it is classified as
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and with did the ancients actually know
about these grids and how did they know

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about them? Well, they knew
about more than just those grids. As

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German Master Dowser's a test. I
think they recognized that certain animals are attracted

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particular grid systems, certain plants are
attracted to particular grid systems, and just

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by observing nature and nature alone,
you can start to see grid systems with

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the geomancas I. I believe as
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going back to six thousand BC and
Africa, according to Si LongRun, a

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master dowser, he claims that there
was a lesson in dows in being depicted

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in a particular cave painting. So
perhaps, if indeed that is true,

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we can say it goes back a
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how the stones are laid out at
Stonehenge, they are all related to different

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types of earth energy. And the
unique thing about Stone Henge, akin to

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the Great Pyramid on the Gizer Plateau
in Egypt, is that it's a point

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where earth energies emerge. It's called
an emergence point, and it's where they

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come out of the ground cobra like
and then flow. They're closer to the

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surface, and that's been noticed by
master dowsers for or nearly eighty years or

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so. Now they're very powerful points. So it's not just gridlines, it's

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not just laid We look for earth
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fisher systems, all of these combined
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that's what the ancients were looking for. They were looking for numerous different types

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of earth energy. And if we
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look at all of the earth energy, it's nothing besides no stones, no

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hingebank, nothing, Then that exact
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and all of the stones were designed
to set upon. I've got one of

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the original surveys of Stonehengs by Master
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line, and that was a mistake
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Basically, it's where people walk and
leave behind a remnants trail, a kind

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of track of where they went.
And if you keep walking a path,

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keep walking a path, then you'll
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Take that away. The blueprint matches
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And what I discovered by looking at
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one avenue. I go into Stonehengs, we only see one, for example,

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but there was another one mirroring where
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in the south as well, because
Stonehenge has got two entrances, one in

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the northeast at the Hengebank and one
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of them were associated with different avenues. So dowsing allow us to see a

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monument in its pristine condition and what
the ancients wanted us to literally decode in

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the future. Well, I actually
know that you're as we're recording, is

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this today? You're doing a zoom
presentation tomorrow night. Actually it's a Friday

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the fifth, I thinking, isn't
it. Yes, that's right, if

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anyone that wants to tune in,
I put out the zoom link on my

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Facebook page and I've got a lot
of reaction about that already, so I

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think that's going to be well attended. But the main thing that was my

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passion about the Stonehenge book was looking
at the different types of people that constructed

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Stonehenge, the Neolithic people and the
Bronze Age people. I've mentioned to you

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before, David, that the Neolithic
people were quite short, they had long

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skulls, they had their ear placements
in a different different place as well,

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so it gave them kind of a
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and they seem to be the ones
and the aDNA by doctor Ian Barnes To

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suggests that that is correct. The
ancient Britons, they don't call them long

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skull they just call them The ancient
British Neolithic had a different DNA to the

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Beaker culture. Now, the Beaker
culture came to Britain from the continent in

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around two thousand, five hundred BC
Orthodox dating. They had very round skulls.

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But one thing that they both have
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Beaker culture were very very tall.
They were towering above the Neolithic. But

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they both practiced cranial deformation. Now
you have originally a long skulled person,

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because I discovered two types of long
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natural long skull and then they extended
through cranial deformation through put in boards,

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probably against the side of the skull
as it were. Once you do that,

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I don't think the baby skull is
quite pliable. It wouldn't it wouldn't

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hurt at all, but it does
leave scar marks down each side, and

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they're noticed by anthropologists, for example, and they were the elite, the

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ruling elite at places like Avy Stonehenge
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Orkney, it was just the women
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they also practice cranial deformation to make
their skulls look even rounder. All

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of them have particular scars that say
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BC, let's say Stonehenge in its
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Stonehenge that we see today. For
instance, it's been noticed by Professor Mike

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Parker Pearson that the stone at Stonehenge
was buried originally. So imagine the ancients

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were looking for buried sars in stones
to erect at Stonehenge for Westwoods not far

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from Marlborough in Wiltshire, and they
did that because once a sas in stone

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that's really large lintled stone circle and
the Trilathon's at Stonehenge. Once that sasin

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stone has been exposed to the elements, it forms a really hard crust that

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makes it being shaped into a lozenge
shape quite difficult, so they chose this

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beautiful sasin they'd never seen the light
of day. And then it's a slightly

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pinky silver color. And recent analysis
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orangey and purple in color as well. There was a bright, vibrant looking

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stone Stonehenge, and originally I believe
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one, because if we looked to
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Inigo Jones. He was the royal
architect to King James, the first King,

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James the sixth of Scotland. He
said that when he was excavating Stonehenge,

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and he was the first person in
which to do so, with the

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King's boyfriend, the dashally handsome George
Phillians, the Duke of Buckenham. He

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was married to Queen Anne, but
he did have George Hilliers as a lover.

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Yeah, exactly they were. They
were digging at the center of Stonehenge,

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and Inigo Jones and architects said,
he even explains the length of the

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stone, the second old stone.
They even told us where it went.

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It got carted bean put on a
horse and cart and it was got carted

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way to Saint James's Palace in London, stolen by royal decree by James the

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first. Now that stone was still
being looked for in the nineteen thirties by

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William Cunnington Junior, but the rural
door was slammed in his face and they

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said no stone exists here. Other
researchers believed a report that was out about

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five years ago saying that the second
alter stone had been found at Berrick Bassett,

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Berrick upon Bassett, that's not far
from Stonehenge. But they were a

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different stone and they were limestone.
And the chap said he was a worker

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at Wessex Archaeology. He was,
but he was working in the kitchen.

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He wasn't an archaeologist, and he
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we put two stones at the altar
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found evidence in Richard Atkinson's excavation at
the center that he found shards of a

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much darker form of sandstone that was
an alter stone there as well. So

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I think one was a light shade
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just for your listeners as well,
the alter stones were jeweled Stonehenge. They

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were green sandstone flexed in red garnet
and white mica. That's what Stonehenge looked

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originally, highly polished stones. Today
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But originally it would have been a
sight to behold. It's all sighted behind

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a very large henge bank, so
that when you approached Stonehenge you just wouldn't

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see it. Yeah, I remember
as a child. Actually, I'm sure

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we used to get excess. You
could just walk in in among Stonehenge,

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but you can't do that because it's
all fin sed off. Yes, it's

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been fencedaff really since about you know, more predominantly since about the eighties,

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because of the festivals that were being
held there. They wanted to stop those

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festivals being held. So that's when
the trouble started and security had to be

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up unfortunately. Yeah. I mean, what are the similarities between the ancient

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Britons and the Egyptians? For instance? How did they actually why did these

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similarities come about? I mean they
obviously didn't know about each other. No,

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but when we look to the finds
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later in the Bronze Age and the
Neolithic, we do find beads from ancient

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Egypt, so there was definitely trade
in occurrence that was happening. We can

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say that these two cultures were aware
of one another. And when we look

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at the skulls and we look to
our Canartum era Queen Nefertiti, King Tut,

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etc. Their skulls are very similar
in the extended form, especially when

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you put them side by side.
But if we go back even further to

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predynastic Egypt, let's say around three
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they had what's called retainer burials,
and that's where the pharaoh would pass and

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then willingly people that were alongside the
pharaoh would go into the tomb as well,

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and that certainly was in occurrence.
In ancient Britain, they too had

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retainer burials, where it seemingly that
the royal elite that had the extended skulls

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went into the long barriers, and
contemporary with that were much shorter, long

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skulled people that were probably more of
a lesser class, it's believed than the

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much longer elongated skull. So you
had a hyper elongated skull next to a

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lesser elongated skull. All of that
same era, around about three thousand one

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hundred BC, retainer burials stopped in
Egypt let's say around two thy nine hundred

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BC thereabouts, and the same thing
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that time. So we see very
similar cultures that are adopting similar burial practices

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or be it in different tombs and
in a different culture. But I think

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there's very very closely tide links.
Have you got any idea why they would

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want to illugate their hits that they
their skulls, Basically because a lot of

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people probably listened to this show,
all these paranormal shows, would actually suspect

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that it's because of an ancient alien
aspect that comes into it. It could

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be an ancient alien aspect that comes
into it. It could be that they

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wanted to appear similar to a divine
being. It could be that they wanted

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to appear different to the other people
and they wanted to be the rule in

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elite, or it could be a
combination of both. There is no written

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records in ancient Britain to describe any
of this, so it is really up

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to interpretation. Hmm, yeah,
that's right. I mean, as I

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say, I go along with the
ancient alia theory. I do believe we

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were visiting in the past and probably
still are. But I know that's not

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really your your avenue. You're more
interested in the history of well, I'm

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interested in ancient civilizations. I have
seen a lot of UFOs in this area,

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and I've had a lot of you
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I do like to think that there
is a much, much older ancient civilization,

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probably stemmed from Atlantis, that influenced
this country as well. Because when

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we look to the work of Lewis
Spence, he was writing, you know,

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around about the nineteen twenties or thirties. Yeah, you don't. You

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don't mean the gay Dancer. You
mean not Lewis Spencer, Lewis. That's

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that's all good, that's that's funny. But yeah, he was saying that

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they two had elongated skulls, they
two built pyramids, and they too practice

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the cult practices. So again we're
seeing similar cultures. So I see the

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ancient Britain's going way, way way
back. And also in a recent archaeological

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find in this area, the archaeologists
have found a very significant shamanic burial of

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the artifacts such as balls, teeth, and a whole load of things in

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a spring that dates to eleven thousand
BC, so we can even say we

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can we were really starting to put
the time back and there's going to be

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an archaeological dig there this year.
So again, where did these people come

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from? Was it Atlantis? Was
it from ancient Aliens? I keep a

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very very open mind, I really
do. I may well have asked you

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just before, but you say you've
seen Europo was in the area. I

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mean, have you had any recent
experiences. The last experience I had was

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probably about a couple of years ago, and it was when we were coming

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back from London on We've just come
off the form motorway heading towards a place

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called Hungerford, and a huge light
was traveling exceptionally fast and just whizzed right

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across the top of us, for
example. But it was very bright because

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it made a light on the ground
as well. And that was that was

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in a forest. We're heading towards
what's called Savnac Forest at that time,

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so it was like in a bit
of a clearing before you head to the

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forest. Wow, okay, on
the look out for them. Your book

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has got a really fantastic cover.
I have to say, it's a very

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ill, really exciting cover. How
did you come up with the idea from

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that? Well, I had some
help for I wanted because there's a lot

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of lunar alignments at Stonehenge and some
celestial alignments that I discovered. I wanted

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it to have a feminine feel as
well, because it's like being masculinized.

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A lot of the ancient sites have
become like masculine and it's always men depicted

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around them. It's the men that's
doing the work, and it's the men

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doing this, and it's not like
that at all in the ancient world.

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Like I said, I discovered all
of the shield maidens, there were female

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warriors. It wasn't just a gender
less a gender experience. So I wanted

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it slightly feminized to just to say
that the women at Stonehenge were having significant,

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significant roles in lots of different aspects
of daily life as well as well

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as I believe that an architectural life. Because many years ago there was a

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master dowser called Tom Lethbridge, and
he looked into if you bang stuffe and

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you make a dynamic shock, as
he called it, in imagine those stones

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at Stonehenge lozengers state, and they've
been mauled and banged into that beautiful smooth

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shape, then they've been having that
thermal flock, as left Bridge said,

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and that leaves behind your bionic charge. And if a male has banged that

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stone, it leaves behind a male
charge. And if a female has hammered

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that stone into shape, it leaves
behind a female polarity charge. And he

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was very accurate at this because he
was a Cambridge archaeologist that used dowsin to

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check for the gender skulls before they
were excavated, so he was very good

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at bionic charge. And when I
tested Stonehenge out for all of the bionic

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charging of the particular stones, women
played a greater role than men in the

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stones. But if you look at
any book that's depicting work at Stonehenge,

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you only see a woman carrying a
basket of rubble in any archaeological book.

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Is shocking. Yeah, his father. That kind of reminds me of when

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I went to Avebury with Hugh and
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They were apparently they were mentioned that
the sexuality connected to a lot of

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the stones there well, absolutely averury
is that wasn't noticed by those. It

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was much much earlier than that.
It was Alexander Quila in the nineteen thirties

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that said you had a female stone
and a malestone. That's where that comes

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from, and that's what he claimed. But if you look also close at

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the Avery stones, they are very
sadly carved for faces as well. You

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can see a lot of faces,
and that was discovered in the nineteen nineties

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by Terrence Meadhan for example. So
I think, you know, Alexander Quilla

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was onto some thing, but I
think there's more to Avy than just the

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male and female stones. But I'm
talking about a biolic charge, not what

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Keeler said that a particular shaped stone
is feminine. Do you see what I

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mean. I'm all about the person
that charged that stone and that's what gives

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it its power, that's what kind
of influences how that stone would be used.

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And for instance, from my legacy
archive of the Trilothons, that's the

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inner huge stones at Stonehenge that are
two stones with a supporting stone on the

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top. That's a trilothon. Intriguingly, the same creator that was at the

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dig I mentioned earlier at the Henge
Bank. He was there every single day.

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He was the creator, he was
a guide, He was the custodian

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of Stonehenge, widely respected by all
of the archaeologists around. And he noticed

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one unusual thing about trilithon fifty one
and fifty two, especially the stone called

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fifty one. Must be the geeks
out there that really liked the numbered stones.

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Look it up on the outside place
of that Originally up until nineteen fifties,

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there was a very very deep hole. It was two feet deep into

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that huge Sassin stone that the trilithons
together would probably weigh about seventy or eighty

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tons. And every day, even
in a drought, that hole filled up

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with pure fresh water, and people
were trying to figure out where's the water

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coming from. Is it coming from
above? Is it condensation? No one

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could figure out where this water was
coming from, but people in the area

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cottoned on to the fact that it
was healing water, and they used to

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go there to cure their exma,
to cure Lots of different ailments and queues

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started to form, and that's when
the then Ministry of Works, a government

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department. Today it's English Heritage that
are now caught. Historic England that managed

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Stonehenge and Averbury. They decided that
that could not carry on and they filled

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that hole up with concrete and plastic
and said no water ever it is.

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It is a crime. That's just
one of the crimes of Stonehenge. Another

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one that is hardly known at all
but came to my attention about five years

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ago, is that there was another
trilathon now because that didn't fit the model

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that William Stukeley drew in seventeen twenty
four and twenty five, and it didn't

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fit the model of John Aubrey.
John Aubrey questioned how many trila fons there

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he was at Stonehenge in the sixteen
hundred and he was saying how many there

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is it? Five? Six or
seven? Questioning and he sketched it all

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out and said, I'm not sure. Basically, William Stukeley comes along said

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there were just five, and it
has been said there's just five ever since.

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But previously to that in sixteen twenty
four Inigo Jones that I mentioned earlier,

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the rural architect Kings James. The
first he drew at a six.

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He through his sacred geometry, he
thought there could have been six and want

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stone setting that looks highly likely to
be the sixth Trilithon has been purposely buried

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just outside of the monument, So
why don't we erect that least clear it

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away and say where did that stone
setting go? In my model of Stonehenge,

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I show you where I think that
that trilathon would go, and it'd

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be very very close to what Inigo
Jones said. And even on a program

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that was the on Channel five I
think it was on Sunday with Dan Snow

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talking about Stonehenge, he even puts
that model up for you, but he

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just doesn't talk about it. Now
Silbury Hill, which is not too far

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away that often gets covered with water, there's any connections to it. Silvery

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Hill was originally all white, smooth
chalk, and it has a chamber on

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the inside that is little known,
very close to the entrance, and that's

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probably initiation chamber. The moat surrounding
it was continually full of water according to

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the archaeological tests that he'd been done
in that area. But more than that,

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I discovered something very significant about Silbury
Hill. A colleague of mine called

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John Cowie that wrote about Silbury Hill
in connection with extraterrestrials. He did a

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lot of research onto the original ground
surface level, and you have some flints

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and artifacts that go back to twelve
thousand PC. But the archaeologists going back

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00:36:00,559 --> 00:36:07,320
to the same date as ancient sites
in Turkey. Okay, so we kind

402
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,079
of think, oh, it's only
two four hundred and eighty BC, according

403
00:36:10,119 --> 00:36:15,119
to the mound expert Jim Leary.
But here's the thing. Imagine now that

404
00:36:15,199 --> 00:36:21,119
it's all whites moved off and it
became flat on top. Only in the

405
00:36:21,199 --> 00:36:24,480
kind of Norman period it was sliced
off on the top to make it a

406
00:36:24,519 --> 00:36:30,239
bury. That's a place where you
can see your enemy approaching. The Normans

407
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:34,880
were here and that was their lookout, and that's why it's steamingly flat.

408
00:36:35,079 --> 00:36:37,920
But originally it was quite mound shaped
on the top, more kind of like

409
00:36:38,119 --> 00:36:44,519
round conical shape. We did some
tests of the electrostatic field at the bottom

410
00:36:44,519 --> 00:36:50,039
in a control area and at the
top and it was thousands of times greater.

411
00:36:50,679 --> 00:36:53,840
Now, if like the Great Pyramid
of Geezer, according to John Michelle,

412
00:36:55,239 --> 00:37:00,039
the pyramid had a gold kind of
like spike on the top if you

413
00:37:00,199 --> 00:37:06,079
will, and if Silbury have the
same, but in copper, not necessarily

414
00:37:06,119 --> 00:37:09,880
have gold. Copper is a very
good conductor. Then David Webb and engineer

415
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:17,760
and myself, especially David with David's
engineering background, calculated that the build up

416
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:23,960
the electrostatic field in the evening would
release itself as a blue haze around the

417
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:30,679
top of Silbury Hill. Now that's
been photographed. It was photographed by a

418
00:37:30,679 --> 00:37:35,519
circle maker in the area. He
won't let me use that photograph, but

419
00:37:35,599 --> 00:37:39,840
I've done a replica in photo shop
for it, and so it does release.

420
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:45,400
It's disturbed. Now it's a very
very disturbed, but in pristine condition.

421
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:51,199
We think the electrostatic field build up
with a copper rod at the top

422
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,159
would have definitely released a blue hazes. It would have been lighting up the

423
00:37:54,320 --> 00:38:00,280
dark. Well, that's really interesting. When any were listening to this,

424
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:05,519
you actually wrote a little book in
your Averbury Sun Mood and Earth Energies on

425
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,960
Maria Weeky and Bussy Taylor and you
can get it and it on Amazon,

426
00:38:10,119 --> 00:38:14,920
not on Amazon Amazon of Bamily.
Oh that's right, I'll remember that.

427
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,760
I'll remember that. Yeah, don't
forget. They take sixty percent from me,

428
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:22,800
the more Bony took thirty five percent. Yeah, I remember you saying

429
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,000
that last time. Yeah, no, please go to my website, the

430
00:38:25,039 --> 00:38:30,840
Avebury Experience dot co dot uk or
my landing page which will take you to

431
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:35,280
all of my websites. And that's
just very simple to remember. Maria Wheatley

432
00:38:35,599 --> 00:38:38,239
dot UK. That's right. Well, I'll put links on more Paranormal Dimensions

433
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:44,280
page again as well. You've also
written another book about divining ancient sites,

434
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,960
which is also going to be available
from you on your site. Yes,

435
00:38:49,119 --> 00:38:54,480
I mean my books do really really
well from from me because I am not

436
00:38:54,519 --> 00:39:00,440
going to pay Amazon sixty percent.
Abury Some Moon is now a best salon

437
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:05,360
the case. I'm really proud of
that book, and it covers all of

438
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:09,840
the earth energies at Avebury, and
people like Hugh they employ me on their

439
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:15,920
tools because of my knowledge about Averbury, and so I think, you know,

440
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:21,599
it's been a beautiful journey with that
first book, the book that I've

441
00:39:21,639 --> 00:39:24,360
written. Now, I would just
like to point out that I have written

442
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:30,639
for English Heritage since twenty thirteen.
I've contributed to their guidebook and I produced

443
00:39:30,639 --> 00:39:37,119
two other guidebooks and a poster for
the Stonehenge Shop, and I have supplied

444
00:39:37,159 --> 00:39:40,519
them for ten years. I've got
every single invoice to prove that actually that

445
00:39:40,599 --> 00:39:45,280
I've kept. And since I've released
The Secret History of Stonehenge, they have

446
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:50,400
banned all of my books. And
like I say, I've sold that for

447
00:39:50,559 --> 00:39:53,320
ten years, for a decade,
so I know I'm on the right track.

448
00:39:53,719 --> 00:40:00,239
I know that I'm releasing the right
information to be again banned for you

449
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,920
know, writing the truth. Yeah, Oh, isn't that's terrible? What

450
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:09,119
do you see the reason for that? The reason I think is because I

451
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:15,880
really put back the time span as
well. I think a Silbury Hill was

452
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:22,320
twelve thousand BC, contemporary to all
of the early sites in Turkey and elsewhere.

453
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:28,960
I also think Stonehenge Phase one was
much much earlier as well, probably

454
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:32,960
going back to eight thousand BC,
if not before. There is evidence from

455
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:37,599
Professor Tim Deville when he was excavating
one of the bluestones and he found the

456
00:40:37,679 --> 00:40:44,039
Holy Grail that's carbon and he had
it carbon dated and it came out as

457
00:40:44,079 --> 00:40:49,440
eight eight hundred BC or two thousand
and five hundred and they chose the date

458
00:40:49,599 --> 00:40:52,719
that fits the history books. But
now we've got a much better dating system.

459
00:40:52,840 --> 00:41:00,800
It's called optical stimulated luminescence and that's
where you put kind of like piece

460
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:04,119
of wire. I'm going to simplify
the process, like a piece of wire

461
00:41:04,199 --> 00:41:07,199
probing down. He goes right the
way down to the old surface level and

462
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:13,960
it can tell you when the last
amount of daylightight hit that surface level.

463
00:41:14,159 --> 00:41:15,960
And that's how things are going to
be dated in the future. And I

464
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:21,639
think that's going to really be a
game changer. Yeah, Robbert, you

465
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:24,679
think that the people conserve would like
to hear, to know the truth,

466
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:28,920
and not to try and hide you. That's what I don't understand. I

467
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:32,239
think the older archaeologists are like that. The younger ones are certainly not.

468
00:41:34,119 --> 00:41:38,280
They are very very open minded and
they allow a lot of different people to

469
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:45,400
train with them. Now I've just
finished my training in lidar interpretation because I'll

470
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:50,280
be looking for sacred sites for archaeologists, for instance, using that latest technology,

471
00:41:50,639 --> 00:41:54,800
and LIDA can go through stand in
Egypt and reveal lost cities. It

472
00:41:54,840 --> 00:42:00,360
can go through trees in the Amazon
for example, and in lost settlements and

473
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:06,679
lost city and the whole of England
now is going to be liedre because a

474
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:10,400
lot of it's going to go to
reforestation. And before it goes to reforestation,

475
00:42:10,599 --> 00:42:15,280
you have to find out the schedule
monuments that could be potentially beneath that

476
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:20,000
ground. But I'm going to take
the lidar one step further. I'm going

477
00:42:20,079 --> 00:42:25,800
to be looking for particular organizations that
are interest in UFO crash sites. I

478
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:30,400
know how to detect different crash sites, you see. So if somebody said

479
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:35,679
to me that's a liedar, I
think I can start to prove that something

480
00:42:36,199 --> 00:42:39,159
very significant happened in that area.
If I have the lidar that I can

481
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:43,920
interpret, well, that's sounds interesting. You have to come to render f

482
00:42:44,079 --> 00:42:47,760
Forest sometime. Miles and I are
doing a tour to Rendalsham Forest. That's

483
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:52,880
Miles Johnston from the Basis Project that
some of your listeners may know. Will

484
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:57,039
be going there or May the twenty
fourth and the twenty fifth, and we're

485
00:42:57,079 --> 00:43:00,920
going to be doing dowsing of Rendalsham
Forest and then we're going to Satin Home

486
00:43:02,159 --> 00:43:07,880
the following day. May the twenty
fourth. I made the twenty fourth and

487
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:12,559
twenty fifth, or the twenty fifth
and the twenty six it's the last I

488
00:43:12,559 --> 00:43:15,119
shall be in the US then I
or have been over the other wise.

489
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:17,320
Yeah, no, it's going to
be it's going to be very interesting and

490
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:23,480
Miles has got all the information about
Rendellshop three nineteen eighty, all of the

491
00:43:23,559 --> 00:43:30,639
activity from the nineteen seventies which a
lot of people don't talk about. I

492
00:43:30,639 --> 00:43:34,559
imagine you'll be catalog in there and
then maybe some YouTube videos and things to

493
00:43:34,599 --> 00:43:38,199
go with it. Yes, Miles
will be doing that and that would be

494
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:44,840
interesting. And we've also got a
Basic Project conference on June the sixteenth,

495
00:43:45,199 --> 00:43:51,639
fifteenth and sixteenth, might be talking
at Megalithmania on the fourth of May and

496
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,800
the fifth of May. And also
my own conference, Mysterious Universe will be

497
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:59,880
on September the twenty first and twenty
second. So there's a lot of conferences

498
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:05,719
around that will really be looking into
all of these different types of mysteries and

499
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:07,719
I'm proud to be a part of
them all. Yeah. I was actually

500
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:10,960
going to mention your conference at towards
you, but as soon as you've mentioned

501
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:16,119
it now you're also the day after
you're going to be doing a tour of

502
00:44:16,199 --> 00:44:22,239
the Rollright Ring as well. Yes, and I've got an expert on Stone

503
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:29,800
as well. He's from the Museum
of Sussex. He's also a very knowledgeable

504
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:35,039
person on all of the myths and
legends and folklore, modern day folklore as

505
00:44:35,079 --> 00:44:39,960
well, you know, UFOs and
different types of stories. And he's going

506
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:43,920
to be leading that tour with me, and I'm going to be doing a

507
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:47,880
lot of dowsing there as well and
looking into the earth energies because I've been

508
00:44:49,039 --> 00:44:52,480
interacting with role rights since the eighties, you know, I know that like

509
00:44:52,559 --> 00:44:55,840
the back of my hand, I
see where a lot of dowsers go wrong

510
00:44:55,880 --> 00:45:00,360
there. I see where a lot
of dowsers go right there. To be

511
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:05,519
honest, I don't need a doubt
done it so many times, so,

512
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:09,599
but it's always a pleasure to take
people to these ancient sites and to tell

513
00:45:09,639 --> 00:45:15,039
them the different types of energies that
are produced by the shape of a circle

514
00:45:15,199 --> 00:45:22,360
alone. A circular shape, whether
it's you know, an occultist circle of

515
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:28,199
salt or a stone circle produced is
what's called form nergy. And form energy

516
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:35,159
is like concentric circles going within the
stone circle and slightly outside like ripples.

517
00:45:35,159 --> 00:45:38,440
If you put a pebble into a
lake, for example, it's called form

518
00:45:38,559 --> 00:45:44,639
nagy, and that's what magicians use
in a circle cast of fault, for

519
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:50,440
example. So all of these stone
circles can help in manifestation on the very

520
00:45:50,519 --> 00:45:55,559
occult level to do with metaphysics imagine, so that there's so many different levels

521
00:45:55,599 --> 00:46:02,079
and stories to be told about stone
circle. M You've wrote a really nice

522
00:46:02,079 --> 00:46:08,119
little book about it, a new
view of the Row right Ring, exploring

523
00:46:08,199 --> 00:46:15,400
lay lines and Earth energies, and
within that book you describe about dowsing rods.

524
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:20,360
Basically is that there's a short term
dowsing rod of course inside of it.

525
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,360
I was lucky enough to get an
obtain a pair of dowsing rods from

526
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:31,679
you back in September was September August
wherever it was, and unfortunately I've known

527
00:46:31,679 --> 00:46:37,320
a chance to use a properly yet
well I'm hoping to very shortly. Well,

528
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:42,400
the great thing about stone circles,
if you've got form energy, which

529
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:45,400
is an Earth energy, it's generated
by the shape of a circle. Then

530
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:51,960
you've got a stone circles what's called
aerial energy, and that's the energy that's

531
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:58,639
coming out of megalethe They formed cross
shapes and concentric circles on the floor and

532
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:02,079
many different things besides, So that's
aerial energy, and then you have earth

533
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:07,280
energy that you can douse as well. So there's many, many different forms

534
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:10,880
of energy and sometimes When people go
to these places, they pick up on

535
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:15,559
the energy, but they can't interpret
it. That's where a master dilser comes

536
00:47:15,559 --> 00:47:20,280
in and can say it's this,
it's that, that's aerial energy. That's

537
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:24,679
grid line, not a lay line. Because all grids point into particular directions.

538
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:30,400
So if if I'm on a line
and it's northwest, that's probably going

539
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:34,639
to be the carry grid and not
a lay do you see what I mean?

540
00:47:34,639 --> 00:47:38,920
Because it's that direction. So you
can start to decode places. And

541
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:44,679
that's what I'm doing a lot of
in places like America at the moment,

542
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:51,519
for like New Bills A. I've
also got an agricultural experiment I'm hoping to

543
00:47:51,599 --> 00:47:57,599
start in America where we're using the
template of how to grow and enhance crops

544
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:04,000
using earth energies. Because it's a
fact that prior to the nineteen fifties and

545
00:48:04,039 --> 00:48:08,000
the advent of fertilizers such as nitrogen, you know, placed on the land,

546
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:14,840
nobody could beat the harvest yields of
the late Bronze Age and the early

547
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:19,599
iron oge per acreage, it couldn't
be beaten. And when I started to

548
00:48:19,639 --> 00:48:23,280
look at why is that fact?
And that's an experimental farm in Hampshire.

549
00:48:23,519 --> 00:48:28,639
They came out with all of these
facts, and so I started to look

550
00:48:28,679 --> 00:48:35,239
into it and noticed that the ancients
were repeating a different type of template across

551
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:39,639
the landscape. And you only repeat
something if it works, You're not going

552
00:48:39,679 --> 00:48:44,840
to repeat a mistake. And I
noticed that they were looking for particular types

553
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:50,079
of earth energy and avoiding particular types
of earth energy because, like I said

554
00:48:50,079 --> 00:48:52,360
earlier, with a carrying out and
with particular types of earth energy, they

555
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:57,719
could be quite toxic. Animals don't
like them, and certainly crops wouldn't like

556
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:05,280
them. Think he interests me about
the dolsing rods. You know they're used

557
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:08,000
also in spirit communication. Yes,
yes, I've used them that way.

558
00:49:08,159 --> 00:49:14,519
Now, how do you know the
difference between earth energy and speaking to spirit?

559
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,360
Is there a way to till?
Yes, there is. It's very

560
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:23,880
easy because each type of Earth energy
emits a particular pattern in the earth.

561
00:49:24,599 --> 00:49:30,960
So, for example, if you're
dowsing underground water that is groundwater, that's

562
00:49:31,039 --> 00:49:37,039
water that's fallen from the sky and
filled up the streams underground and the lakes,

563
00:49:37,079 --> 00:49:40,199
the a prefers, et cetera.
That's called ground water, and that

564
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:45,599
admits a particular type of pattern.
Now a track line, that's another form

565
00:49:45,639 --> 00:49:51,719
of earth energy that again has a
particular pattern, and so on and so

566
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:54,800
forth. So if I pick up
a particular pattern, then I know what

567
00:49:54,920 --> 00:50:01,880
that type of energy is without even
using information dowsing, which can be very

568
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:09,199
inaccurate. So most master downcers know
the patterns that the land produces to be

569
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:15,440
able to interpret that. Right.
But someone myself who's not a master dowser,

570
00:50:15,079 --> 00:50:21,199
can I get incorrect reading thinking maybe
speaking as a spirit, but actually

571
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:24,360
fact I'm picking up on an earthqued
or something, yes, or you know,

572
00:50:24,559 --> 00:50:30,599
sometimes that type of information dowsing can
be quite inaccurate. So it was

573
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:37,039
Tom Graves. Actually, he wrote
and Needles of Stone. I think I

574
00:50:37,119 --> 00:50:40,400
read it so many decades ago.
I'm sorry if I've done a discus justice

575
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:45,199
to that title. That's what I
think. But he noticed that if you

576
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:49,280
ask a question, you know,
and you're communicating, you can be really

577
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:52,880
led and marry dance. So he
came out with the technique. It's called

578
00:50:53,039 --> 00:50:59,239
the Hermes response, and the Hermes
is the trickster of the universe, like

579
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:05,079
low Ki or Mercury. It equates
to so each time you ask a question,

580
00:51:05,559 --> 00:51:08,599
you don't know if that's true or
false. And this is what Tom

581
00:51:08,639 --> 00:51:14,280
Graves notice. So then you ask
if that is the Hermes response, and

582
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:16,599
if you get a yes, it's
a lie, it's not true. And

583
00:51:16,639 --> 00:51:23,360
so a lot of people do include
the technique of Graves to really try and

584
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:30,039
unravel if you're being led of Mary
Dance or not interesting. I must practice

585
00:51:30,039 --> 00:51:36,119
a bit more with that. Now, that's all it takes practice. Yeah,

586
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:37,760
I guess that's all that. Yeah, I'd need to go on a

587
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:42,679
few to a few sites of old
churches and things and try it all out.

588
00:51:44,159 --> 00:51:47,280
Am I correcting saying you've been to
Egypt recently? Yes, I go

589
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:52,519
to Egypt once a year with Kerry
Cassidy. She does a radio show and

590
00:51:52,559 --> 00:51:58,400
she's quite well known in America,
the Camelot Project, Camelot Project, Camelot.

591
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:02,440
Yeah, yes, and yes.
So I've really started to decode a

592
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:07,880
lot of the Egyptian temples in terms
of earth energies and like we've been saying,

593
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:13,280
aerial energies, and also in terms
of mathematical ratios they're equate to musical

594
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:17,920
harmonics as well. I've done several
courses of late in sacred geometry, and

595
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:22,360
so I can look at sacred geometry
within places now and I'm actually doing a

596
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:30,599
course on May the eleventh and twelfth
with the top sacred geometry expert Daniel Doherty

597
00:52:30,039 --> 00:52:34,880
in Avebury. So we will be
doing a lot to do with sacred geometry,

598
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:37,159
and I'll take you around the stones
and show you the sacred geometry of

599
00:52:37,199 --> 00:52:43,519
the stones that I recently discovered,
and again that's in my latest book.

600
00:52:44,079 --> 00:52:49,239
And so there's all of these different
different levels that we can look at within

601
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:52,920
a stone circle, and in Egypt
it's not been done. The only things

602
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:58,599
that have been looked at in Egypt
are things like the on vortex, the

603
00:52:59,079 --> 00:53:02,320
lay lines, and and that's where
I come in and I can look at

604
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:07,199
it completely differently to other people.
And that's what I'm doing. I'm really

605
00:53:07,199 --> 00:53:13,559
looking at ancient Egypt and particular temples
and what are they associated with, what

606
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:16,840
energies make them unique? And that's
going to be my next book, downs

607
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:25,360
in Sacred Sites worldwide. Have any
new discoveries been filmed around Egypt around the

608
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:32,199
Sphinx and everything? There's I think
again, when we start to use lider,

609
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:37,519
that's going to be the real real
game changer, and that's going to

610
00:53:37,599 --> 00:53:43,679
allow us to see a much,
much wider part of not just places like

611
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:50,280
Egypt, but far far beyond.
And there's numerous sites been recently found in

612
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:54,039
Great Britain alone, and the only
reason we don't really hear about them is

613
00:53:54,079 --> 00:54:00,719
because an archaeological report needs to be
written first so that you know they analyze

614
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:06,719
all of the material when it comes
to places like ancient Egypt. I don't

615
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:12,719
think it's just the discoveries will be
in mortar and what's left behind. It

616
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:17,119
is going to be in terms of
the sacred geometry and the musical harmonics there

617
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:23,239
in the Secret History of stonehenge,
I decode the sphinx term all that stands

618
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:28,880
in front of the sphinx, and
look at that in terms of sacred geometry,

619
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:36,719
and it corresponds to the pentacle shape
in its reverse mode and it's upright

620
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:40,719
mode, and that's a form of
sacred geometry. And I look at stonehenges

621
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:45,880
geometry as well, and so like
I say, it's layer after layer.

622
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:51,760
It's like looking at an appealing an
onion and get into the core right in

623
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:55,800
the middle, right at that center. Yeah, and with Andrew Collins and

624
00:54:55,800 --> 00:55:02,599
correctly TEPPI, I think he's been
finding some new discoveries recently which seemed quite

625
00:55:02,639 --> 00:55:07,239
exciting. Yes, yes, yeah, have you been involved in there?

626
00:55:08,679 --> 00:55:13,320
No, I haven't been involved in
that, but Kerry and I are definitely

627
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:17,920
going to go. And I've been
sponsored recently and commissioned to do remote dowsing

628
00:55:19,039 --> 00:55:23,679
there. So I'm starting to do
that because I've doused in sixteen different countries

629
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:30,920
now, and I would I think
I'm one of the most advanced dowsers because

630
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:35,800
of my lineage, because of how
long I've doing it. So yes,

631
00:55:36,159 --> 00:55:40,039
I'm starting to decode a lot of
places in remote dowsing and it is quite

632
00:55:40,079 --> 00:55:45,360
spectacular. But again, I then
have to back that up by going there

633
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:49,360
and having a look at the fight, and then I give that to another

634
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:53,239
master dowser that goes blind. I
don't tell him what I've discovered, and

635
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:58,119
they do some remote dowsing, and
if the two match up, you're onto

636
00:55:58,159 --> 00:56:04,199
something. One dowser alone can make
mistakes in remote dowson, and any dowser

637
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:07,800
that won't admit to that is not
being truthful because we can all make mistakes.

638
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:13,000
Yeah, sure, it happens,
and so it's always good to have

639
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:16,920
a backup. And I'll be going
to Barley as well to confirm some other

640
00:56:17,119 --> 00:56:22,440
Dowson there hopefully in the near future. Oh well, some amazing places,

641
00:56:22,519 --> 00:56:25,559
but they're qubecarly tiffy that I mentioned
it's in Turkey. In case it one's

642
00:56:25,599 --> 00:56:30,599
wondering, were these Yes, and
I don't think that's one of the oldest

643
00:56:30,119 --> 00:56:35,000
sites now. Like I say,
if we look to our own landscape and

644
00:56:35,039 --> 00:56:39,719
we look to John Cowie's information about
Silbury Hill, that matches that site,

645
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:45,400
it's contemporary with it. But because
we're in England, we say, oh

646
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:51,079
no, that can't be. We
have to go to places in the east.

647
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:53,800
I think, you know, in
the near future we're going to turn

648
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:58,719
everything around. Like I said,
there's been some really good Mesolithic fines in

649
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:02,800
the area. Bioarchists are way way
away putting the date back to ten thousand

650
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:08,920
BC as it is now. I'll
go, you can mention something else here.

651
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:15,519
You know, well throughout the world
has been found these obelisks recently.

652
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:19,960
I don't know if you've seen them
on YouTube or on Facebook or whatever,

653
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:24,559
but the giant metal obelisks which we
are seen to be appearing, do you

654
00:57:24,599 --> 00:57:28,599
know much about them? I'm not
saying you're doing it I'm just I'm just

655
00:57:28,639 --> 00:57:31,400
wondering if you've got any ideas about
where they're coming from. Well, where

656
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:36,159
they're coming from, I don't know. I don't know who would like claim

657
00:57:36,239 --> 00:57:40,159
to those. I've seen a few
on social media because these strange areas,

658
00:57:40,159 --> 00:57:45,000
aren't they remote areas where you know, you'd need to really be tracked to

659
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:50,719
get there with them. Yeah,
and to put it up alone, to

660
00:57:50,719 --> 00:57:53,960
erect these things, I mean,
it is a construction job. It's not

661
00:57:54,159 --> 00:57:59,400
what one person can do. But
once you have an obelisk in place,

662
00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:06,880
you can really generate aerial energy.
Because what happens with an obelisk of stone,

663
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:10,519
of metal, or even a totem
pole. Yeah, let's say you've

664
00:58:10,559 --> 00:58:16,079
just got something rooted into earth energy. It has long long been noticed that

665
00:58:16,079 --> 00:58:21,159
that will start to absorb the Earth
energy, especially if it's like a conductive

666
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:27,920
material like a crystal lattice in a
stone. Metals are highly conductive as well,

667
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:30,119
obviously, and it can kind of
draw up, if you will,

668
00:58:30,239 --> 00:58:35,480
the Earth energy and then it can
start to transmit it. I did some

669
00:58:35,559 --> 00:58:38,440
recordings on that with Rodney Hale,
and that was my idea in which to

670
00:58:38,519 --> 00:58:44,639
do so, because I knew that
aerial energy could be proved. I truly

671
00:58:44,679 --> 00:58:47,920
did, because I had been dousing
it four years. So these obelisks,

672
00:58:49,199 --> 00:58:52,679
you could have an obelisk in Egypt, for example, let's say a standard

673
00:58:52,679 --> 00:58:58,000
obelisk that's been put up by the
ancients. You could put a new obelisk

674
00:58:58,119 --> 00:59:02,679
up and they are add in terms
of downsing to be able to communicate to

675
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:08,760
one another. You have what's called
cross talk communication. It's a downsing phenomenon,

676
00:59:09,079 --> 00:59:14,679
and that's where one type of monument
communicates to another one. So if

677
00:59:14,719 --> 00:59:20,599
you wanted to change the energetics of
ancient Egypt, for example, or you

678
00:59:20,599 --> 00:59:23,840
could place an obelist somewhere else and
you could pull that energy away from that

679
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:27,440
place. Do you see what I'm
saying? Yeah? Sure, yeah,

680
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:32,920
And I'd like I say it's a
known phenomenon called cross talk. M did

681
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:37,119
you see raises questions now? Were
you saying that? As even more now

682
00:59:37,239 --> 00:59:40,840
has to what these objects are and
where they're coming from. And in case

683
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:45,480
anyone out there doesn't know what I'm
talking about now, I think it's an

684
00:59:45,519 --> 00:59:49,079
arizona. They found one, it
was in a quite a remote area.

685
00:59:49,599 --> 00:59:52,360
I think recently they've found one in
Wales, I'm not. I think they've

686
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:59,199
found a few more scattered around the
world, and there's been a few theories

687
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:05,079
or alias leaving them there for some
reason and for what you've just been saying,

688
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:08,480
they could will be the case.
Well, I mean it's been known.

689
01:00:08,559 --> 01:00:15,760
Even if you take an obelisk from
somewhere like Cleopatra's needle, for instance,

690
01:00:15,039 --> 01:00:21,480
that's been put on neutral ground.
Marter dowsers have noticed that for decades.

691
01:00:21,599 --> 01:00:24,679
It's called neutral ground, meaning it
doesn't really have auth energy there because

692
01:00:25,079 --> 01:00:30,880
they want it to do something else. Yeah, use and that can act

693
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:37,159
and that can then communicate on a
particular it's called a cardinal rain. If

694
01:00:37,199 --> 01:00:43,360
you imagine a cross going through the
land produced by an obelisk or any object

695
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:46,760
that's above ground, like a standing
stone, it produces what's called cardinal rains.

696
01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:51,400
And if you want to know more
about those, I write about that

697
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:55,840
in the Essential Dowsing Guide. And
that will bang straight cross talk to the

698
01:00:55,920 --> 01:01:00,239
next one. So you don't even
sometimes need a energy in the ground.

699
01:01:00,519 --> 01:01:06,679
You can have what's called cardinal rays. And that was first observed by metal

700
01:01:06,719 --> 01:01:10,800
objects like the ones you're describing in
the nineteen thirties. That's how long.

701
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:16,440
This phenomena has been researched in dowsing
terms. Yeah, I mean these obviously

702
01:01:16,599 --> 01:01:20,719
what we're talking about they're about are
about twenty feet to all. It was

703
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:23,400
all so yeah, I mean the
smooth metal. I'm not sure what the

704
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:29,800
metal is. That's that's what The
first tests on cardinal rays were done on

705
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:35,360
metal kind of poles, if you
will, round about twenty to thirty feet

706
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:40,199
tall, and they erected some very
simple, you know, like poles,

707
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:45,039
not a huge obelisk or anything of
worth or merit like that. But that's

708
01:01:45,079 --> 01:01:51,519
how it was realized that these were
communicating to one another, to a linear

709
01:01:51,639 --> 01:01:55,639
band that they produced called a cardinal
ray. It's just called that in dowsing

710
01:01:55,800 --> 01:02:01,280
terms. But it's quite high energy
and you change the dynamics of place with

711
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:06,559
that as well. Mm. Yeah. It's just it's a puzzle because you

712
01:02:06,559 --> 01:02:10,079
don't see it mentioned on mainstream media
or anything at all, you know,

713
01:02:10,119 --> 01:02:14,159
and you think you'd be a big
story, wouldn't you. Where are these

714
01:02:14,159 --> 01:02:19,280
big metal things coming from? It
could worry some people, And I think

715
01:02:19,679 --> 01:02:27,039
the media is not telling the best
of stories at the best of talk anyway.

716
01:02:28,079 --> 01:02:31,159
And I think you know, it's
about let's tell people what they should

717
01:02:31,239 --> 01:02:37,880
hear rather than what they should hear. Yeah, I agree anyway. Anyway,

718
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:44,840
so once again you've got your big
event in September the twenty twenty.

719
01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:49,400
First, Yes, the Secrets of
Stone. Now I would have liked to

720
01:02:49,519 --> 01:02:52,400
come to that. Unfortunately I already
put to go somewhere else. Again,

721
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:57,880
not to worry, it's not meant
to be, but it was very popular

722
01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:01,639
last year. I think we're getting
really good figures and people in attendance to

723
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:06,119
all the other conferences in this area, and I've only been going a few

724
01:03:06,199 --> 01:03:12,199
years, so I'm really really thrilled
that this year we've got the emphasis on

725
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:17,519
stone and the secret properties of standing
stones and all different forms of stone as

726
01:03:17,559 --> 01:03:24,039
well, from crystals to you know, granite, the sarcophagus inside the King's

727
01:03:24,079 --> 01:03:28,840
Chamber. We're going to be looking
at all of these different types of stones

728
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:35,320
and understanding their metaphysical and their physical
properties. Yeah, I've got the thing

729
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:38,960
booked called the Festival of the Explained, which'll we're going to for that weekend,

730
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:43,320
which is unfortunate because I'll check my
calendar. I saw that they thought,

731
01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:49,079
oh damn it, but we have
a nice revenue. Are David,

732
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:52,599
I will try to. I'm sure
we will do. But if anyone is

733
01:03:52,639 --> 01:03:55,199
interested in tickets for that, where
do they get them? We'll just go

734
01:03:55,280 --> 01:04:01,440
on to my website, the Avebury
Experience dot co do and you'll be able

735
01:04:01,519 --> 01:04:06,239
to literally see a banner on the
home page that says Mysterious Universe. You

736
01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:11,000
just click there. We can go
straight to an event right and put in

737
01:04:11,039 --> 01:04:15,719
the Mysterious Universe there. And we've
got a coach trip that's filling up quite

738
01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:21,320
fast. We lay on a bigger
coach trip to other megalithic tours. We've

739
01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:28,320
got a thirty plus seater one,
so yes, so that should be really

740
01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:31,800
good and I'm really looking forward to
it. It was very well attended last

741
01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:36,719
year when we went to World's Cathedral
and Stanton drew the second largest stone circle

742
01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:41,360
in the world, so we have
a great time there. So it's really

743
01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:44,880
interesting, really exciting. Well it
is. I was hoping to see you

744
01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:49,440
awaiting this year, but that's been
canceled also, Yes, unfortunately it has.

745
01:04:50,519 --> 01:04:55,280
So we're I'm going to see You're
not sure, not quite hopefully we

746
01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:59,000
were bumping to each other at some
point this year. I need to get

747
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:01,480
your book at some point, so
that's to try and drop by and get

748
01:05:01,519 --> 01:05:06,119
a signed copy or something. But
anyway, thank you so much for coming

749
01:05:06,159 --> 01:05:10,519
on here. It's been great talking
to you. Well, thank you for

750
01:05:10,559 --> 01:05:14,480
finding the time again on this very
special show number two hundred. Again.

751
01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:16,360
I'll just rub that in, just
rub that in a little bit again.

752
01:05:16,599 --> 01:05:20,679
So maybe you'll come back for show
three hundred, will you? Maybe before

753
01:05:20,719 --> 01:05:27,000
that even that would be great.
Thank you David. It's always a pleasure

754
01:05:27,159 --> 01:05:30,239
speaking with you. You run a
great show. Thank you for having me

755
01:05:30,679 --> 01:05:38,400
do my best, do try.
It's all down to the guest. I

756
01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:42,239
can guarantee that. But again,
thank you so much for coming all fine

757
01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:46,440
at the time and so great to
talk to you. It's been a pleasure.

758
01:05:46,519 --> 01:05:49,360
No, thank you really, no, thank you really bye bye,

759
01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:55,239
Thank you we are That was Maria
Weekly. Maria is always welcome on this

760
01:05:55,239 --> 01:05:59,920
show. It's fantastic and I highly
recommend getting her book, which of course

761
01:06:00,119 --> 01:06:04,400
is the Secret History of Stonehenge and
Cesstral Mysteries and Lost Civilizations, or we

762
01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:09,800
will be putting linked as I said
on the Paranormal Dimensions page. Okay,

763
01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:12,840
my next show, which is going
to be next week, we'll a bit

764
01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:15,880
of catching up to do. So
the show that's going on next week should

765
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:21,480
have been this week and that's sir
gentleman named Wayne sedonw Wayne's written a few

766
01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:28,480
books and he also runs a company
called spookan Or who do paranormal investigations.

767
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:31,360
So we should look forward to having
Wayne on the show, and that will

768
01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:36,119
be show number two hundred and one. That's a special extra of course.

769
01:06:36,199 --> 01:06:39,599
As always, if you'd like to
get in touch with me, my email

770
01:06:39,639 --> 01:06:44,920
address is David Young two QN at
yahoo dot co dot uk. That's David

771
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:48,039
Young two QN at yahoo dot co
dot uk. So on to the next

772
01:06:48,079 --> 01:06:53,199
show, which is a twenty ninth
and April, and that's Wayne Seedon making

773
01:06:53,239 --> 01:06:55,960
out of that one and I will
speak to you then. Take care of

774
01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:59,119
everyone, Try not to catch the
cold that I've had. By bye,

775
01:07:00,079 --> 01:07:03,079
go to bed, all right,
it is late, shall we retire.

776
01:07:03,599 --> 01:07:10,239
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777
01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:14,360
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778
01:07:14,519 --> 01:08:18,840
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779
01:08:19,039 --> 01:08:20,239
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