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What is krak alacing fellows thermonuclear a
efforts. I am Dan Valley coming at

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you with out my certified fantabular's co
host, mister Grant Hughes. It was

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supposed to be a solo mail bag. The listeners and discord have been clamoring

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for a mail bag today while Grant
is on vacation, I will try and

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get to some questions in the mail
bag off the cuffs, since I've not

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researched any of it at the end, but we had too much breaking news

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to get to Terry Rozier traded to
the Miami Heat and the Bucks firing Adrian

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Griffin. So I'll try and get
a full mail bag up for next Monday,

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and I'll record it over the weekend
to the time of year though where

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these audibles are gonna happen. My
Bleacher Report schedule at the moment is living

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fucking Proof. And then we'll have
another episode this week on Friday with a

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first time guest. I believe we
won't reveal it just yet, but we're

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gonna be going into a singular team
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But let's talk. Let's talk about
this stuff before we get to the

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mini mailbag, as you call it. We'll begin with the Bucks firing Adrian

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Griffin, which was surprising just because
he was forty three games into his tenure.

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The Bucks were thirty and thirteen,
second best record in the league.

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They are second in point scored per
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the bottom ten of points allowed per
possession. The defensive trade off of getting

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going from Drew Holliday to Damian Lillard
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There were rumblings he received a lot
of criticism publicly. He was changing his

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defensive schemes fewer than five games into
the season after players seemed unhappy with the

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way he was using Brook Lopez and
trying to be more aggressive. The defense

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still hasn't really rebounded, and you
look at some of their core issues and

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it's everyone is this is not you
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novel. Everyone has criticized their transition
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it received a lot of kind of
hate, and they're definitely not as sturdy

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at the basket as they were,
but they're fifteenth in opponent a field goal

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percentage allowed at the rim. And
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of opponent shots to come at the
rim. So it's not disastrous, it's

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just not elite like it was before. The transition stuff has been more damning

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for them. They are as heading
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dead last in the frequency with which
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and when you watch them, you
just you feel it with guys not

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getting back. Their actual transition defense
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the league in points allowed per transition
possessions, but when you're gonna let teams

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get out that frequently, especially after
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aren't getting back and Middleton and brook
Lopez are just a step slow, and

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you're very much able to get behind
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Damian Lillard or if there's a different
combination back there. There's also there is

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ball containment issues when you do look
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They're much weaker at the point attack
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wasn't just people forget. It wasn't
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lost Javon Carter, who was important
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And so I wonder if they would
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back, if they would have been
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argue they would be better off on
defense. It would have been a material

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difference to save Adrian Griffin's job.
I mean, probably not. There are

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other stuff we'll get to behind the
scenes for the reason that feels like it

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ended up this way. But look, Milwaukee is twenty second in half court

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defense, and that is that is
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they're not even getting to a point
where teams are on the break so frequently

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that they don't even get a chance
to have their defense set. And that's

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going to impact you with the basket
probably more like of your core principles.

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That's gonna and when it comes to, of course trying to figure out matchups

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or cross matchups. That's gonna make
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But that's gonna affect you at the
point of attack the most, just because

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you have these lead ball handlers that
are gonna come up and be able to

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get in a lane and make plays
from there. And it becomes this anarchic

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chaos if you're not to get your
defense set and the Bucks just are not

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athletic or young enough to get their
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way, they're not young or athletic
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deficit they were showing in terms of
being you want to say, commitment to

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getting back or being precise with the
timing about when you're getting back and how

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you're getting back. They don't have
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Giannis is just the only one on
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and I think he even went on
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He even admitted that he wasn't giving
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be an issue regardless of who their
head coaches. Joe Brunt is the interim

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head coach. It does look like
maybe this will be dated by the time

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it comes out, but it looks
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one to take over, which,
by the way, it'll be the twenty

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fifth consecutive season now that Doc Rivers
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the streak lives on for him.
Jeffan Gunny and Nate McMillan has also been

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mentioned. Very interesting names there,
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of how we ended up here with
the Bucks. We had Chris Haynes at

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Bleacher Report released his tell All.
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think he used his substack or at
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reporters from Adrian woz Enroowski and Shamsherania. It all points to basically the same

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thing, which players weren't happy with
Griffin and they never really he never really

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gelled with them. In the Haines
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sort of an airing out session with
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Lopez, Lillard, and Giannis.
It was considered productive it preceded their seven

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game win streak, but players were
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were being voiced. We had that
issue. I think it was sham Serrani

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reported this initially and it's now been
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who was their lead assistant, ended
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getting into an altercation during practice with
Adrian Griffin, and there were issues before

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that that I guess led to it
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really bad position for, you know, a first time coach to be in

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is just to you know, isolate
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your staff. It was also reported
by sham Shrania that in the aftermath with

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Terry Stotts leaving, the Bucks basically
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a head coaching consultant. That is, not, to be clear, necessarily

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unique. There are guys who still
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Tom Thibodeau did it. I feel
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he did it with a bunch of
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unemployed, and it happens all the
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do that right out of the gate
probably a red flag. So there were

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just a ton of red flags here. I don't know how much coaching necessarily

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accounts for the Bucks' defensive issues.
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be personnel based. At the same
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with your players, if you're not
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and look, Adrian Griffin in the
NBA circles, has been around the block.

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He interviewed I think for fourteen head
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We'll see if he even gets another
opportunity after this. This is sort

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of a stain that's gonna Yes,
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to kind of go out in his
blaze of awkwardness, I guess you would

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call it, and having these red
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that's not going to reflect too well
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interviews. That being said something,
some of this needs to fall. It's

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not a lot of it at the
feet of Giannis Tantakoupo. There was reporting

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from Mark Stein that it was it. We know that Adrian Griffin was Giannis's

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guy, and that factored into the
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time head coach. But Stein is
reporting, and this is just I haven't

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seen his confirmed, but it is
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Even outside Dallas. I know people
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is plugged in. It's Mark Stein. You take you have to take it

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at face value. He reported that
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have to play for Nick Nurse,
which I found very interesting. I don't

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know of any bad blood between Nick
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or haven't heard anything behind the scenes. Was Jannis worrying about having to

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play for him? Did he hear
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in Toronto about maybe how Nick Nurse
grated on some of them. I don't

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know, but he was apparently determined
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he threw his backing behind Adrian Grift. We didn't have like these deep seated

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ties to apparently. I don't know
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the why Jiannis backed Adrian Griffin,
for him to I don't want to say,

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make the call, but to push
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of be it sounded like, just
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ago, he certainly wouldn't put up
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to get rid of Griffin. To
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to be on him to some extent. I do not, though, really

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believe that Doc Rivers is the answer
here. It's just it's interesting that,

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yes, he's worked with Stars before, but there's been basically locker room problems

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wherever he went. James Harden wasn't
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know what kind of transpired with the
by the end of the Clippers era there

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there was just you know, the
lob City issues behind the scenes. And

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then also just when they were integrating
the Kawhi and Paul George of at all,

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they were sort of this contentious combatancy
between that previous regime where it was

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all these guys that wanted to play
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sort of this plucky non star unit, you know, those like Tobias Harris,

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Gallinari Leg Clippers not those guys were
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when this happened, but like Pat
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So, yes, he's worked with
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mean, his past few stops it's
not worked out too well. And then

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it's also super It's honestly, the
word is hilarious that the Bucks get rid

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of Mike Budenholzer because of how underwhelming
they are in the playoffs, and their

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solution is to then pivot to a
first time head coach who doesn't even make

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it to the postseason, like,
doesn't even get the chance to coach into

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the postseason. Then go to Doc
Rivers, who has been Yes, part

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of this is just the volume at
which he has coached, but he has

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overseen some of the most epic playoff
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runs of all time. So there's
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having his cachet and him being available. I mean, the best free agent

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coaching guy right now is probably like
Wudenholzer. I don't think they're going to

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bring him back, though Kenny Atkinson
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don't think it would take a lot
to get him to leave Golden State at

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this point. Milwaukee not Charlotte,
but he wasn't even mentioned in the preliminary

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report. It seems like the Bucks
are like going to skew towards these older

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head types that are I don't want
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I mean like Nate McMillan, Jeff
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like curmudgeonly guys. It almost feel
like that have always been rigid in their

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principles when it comes to leadership,
and in Nate McMillan's case and Doc Rivers's

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case to offense, I don't even
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as a head coach at this juncture. It's been so long since he has

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actually been in that role at the
NBA level. So I understand the move,

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And there's value in making this call
now rather than trying to see it

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through for a season or longer.
You have the honest you of dame.

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Now. You're getting older in general, when you look at your core,

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your windows not very long. And
so there's we can critique the Bucks for

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making the mistakes of hiring Adrian Griffin
in the first place, but there's no

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value that we would have criticized them
for not get we're going to criticize them

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for getting rid of him too soon, but if they would have let him

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coach the postseason and it still wasn't
right and they flame out in the first

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round or something, that's kind of
a no win proposition. So you can't

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let yourself be impacted by well,
kind of married to this guy. We

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need to dig ourselves out of this
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And so I think you can commend
the Bucks for making this decision about

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halfway through the year. That's not
an easy decision to make, but the

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actions from here on are gonna speak
volumes and just pivoting into doc Rivers is

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uninspiring, just like the decision to
higher Adrian Griffin quite flying through was uninspiring.

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It was fine to give him the
benefit of the doubt see what he

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could do with this team. It
was obviously unimpressive. And just the stuff

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behind the scenes, I mean the
Terry Stotts thing. I'm not saying that

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was his death now. But you
have this player, a top ten,

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top fifteen player in the NBA,
and Damian Lillard coming in with a former

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head coach who he bonded with,
knows how to use him, knows how

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to reach him, resonate with him, and you just marginalize him, isolate

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him, have battles with him.
It's just not a smart practice. That's

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not something a veteran head coach would
know better. That's just common sense.

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Yeah, veteran head coach will probably
know better than to isolate someone who's so

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close with Dame as Dame was coming
into your organization. So, but that's

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just common sense overall. Rookie head
coach, season head coach, I don't

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care. And so there was a
level of writing on the wall. It

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felt like here. I know there
were a lot of Bucks fans that kind

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of were not maybe maybe not coming
out in defense of Adrian Griffin, but

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they've pointed to yes, he's made
some lineup changes. He eventually changed the

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way that he was using Elie Beasley, and it really a lot of this

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does come down to, in my
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is there personnel? I think the
offense you can say, especially in crunch

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time, wasn't creative enough? Was
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hasn't been tooe happy with with his
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to drop. Gianness's usage was going
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For Chris Middleton. It seems like
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it's not so much the volume and
the numbers that have you know, depressed

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for Damian Thought, I mean the
efficiencies down he can't be happy about that

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overall. Do you blame Adri and
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but it doesn't seem like they were
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used. And there was definitely a
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the offense. When you're looking at
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rolls, looking at some of the
mistakes that they were making when you got

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into crunch time, looking at the
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to just kind of not incomplete inability. But they've had some really you would

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say bad losses but also kind of
bad wins. We're just barely beating the

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Detroit Pistons, who just aren't even
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So, like all that stuff,
it's a confluence of circumstance that really contributes

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to it. And like aside from
all this is that there weren't many good

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defensive harbingers. Yes, the Bucks
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goal percentage, which is fine.
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They're dead last in the opponent turnover
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that to get blown out in transition
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team either. Where they're in the
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rate. That's not great. It's
like, all right, they don't fail

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a ton, that's pretty cool.
Yeah, because they don't have an opportunity

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to because guys are wide open in
transition, or there's just not a ton

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of ball containment from them in the
half court. That's still a personnel thing,

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though, like Doc Rivers, I
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I would be open to seeing jeff
Fan Gundy here just because he cut

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his teeth as this defensive officionados.
I'd just be interested to see him come

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in and oh, Jeff Fan Gunnys
just on the NBA sidelines again. And

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the last time he coaches. He
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And so what year was that.
Let's look this up. Jeffan Gundy

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last coached in the I mean in
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seven, so we're talking about like
fifteen sixteen year gap here, which would

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be just absolutely that would be wild
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I'm all for it though, just
for just anecdotally, I'm all for it.

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I don't know if it would be
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we'll see if it ends up with
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if it's Rivers and I'm a Bucks
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There needs to be moves made at
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report for Chris Haynes that the Bucks
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Jontay Murray sweepstakes. It's not happening. It can if de Jonta Murray still

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in Atlanta are up for grabs in
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have some like first round equity that
they can trade and you can build offers

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that way. But they're not getting
a de Jontay Murray level defender. He'd

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be a great fit for this team. I know that he has regressed defensively

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in Atlanta. The context kind of
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Brook Lopez behind you, and him
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very well. Dame is so much
more adaptable offensively than than a Tree Young

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is. But you're so you're more
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Even if you threw everything they had
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enough to get them in alex Caruso. Could they get Javon Carter back from

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the Bulls? That might be something
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cost to get Dennis Smith Junior or
Davion Mitchell from Sacramento and Dennis Smith Junior

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is in Brooklyn at the moment.
Those are guys that you could realistically field

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and throw at the point of attack
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Those are kind of the names they're
working with. They could use some athleticism

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on the wings, but I don't
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got a Doriyanfony Smith, but the
Nets reportedly want two first round picks for

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him, if you count marj On
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is that an offer they'd be willing
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view Dorian Phony Smith is like this
point of attack Savon. He did some

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of that stuff in Dallas, but
he's older now and that's going to be

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a lot to put on him.
So you're looking at some of these even

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if it's a DFS like that's probably
the ceiling on their acquisition. Maybe a

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Royce O'Neil is someone who could help
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names that you're going to be looking
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bad names. I think they would
all help Milwaukee, specifically on the defensive

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end. I don't think it solves
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part of this is just the Bucks
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with Chris Middleton. You can bounce
back offensively, but he's not the same

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player he was defensively, and so
they need to figure out if they want

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to look at more wholesale changes or
maybe some more expensive dice rolls. Feels

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like it'll be easier to happen over
the offseason just that's what a lot of

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this stuff does tend to have.
But also they will have more assets to

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dangle in front of teams if and
when they get there. So interesting decision

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by the Bucks. I don't know
if it was the right decision. I'm

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very it's just very uneasy and unsettling, and I don't know that just knowing

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who's probably going to replace him incredibly
uninspiring is sort of where I land on

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that. And we'll see if any
coach though, and that's this I'm not

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a doc Rivers guy, but you
could install you know, maybe I won't

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tell. You can put a Ris
Baulster on this team, and I would

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bet their defense would be a lot
better. I'll be interested to see without

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them making any wholesale personnel changes,
what does this defense end up looking like.

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Is it really just a matter of, well, okay, well someone's

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going to come in and you know
they're going to do a better job of

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playing Andre Jackson junior or giving Chris
Livingston a shot, and that really gives

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you a jolt of adrenaline the defensive
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but I just I look at what
they're doing defensively as a personnel issue,

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and this decision with Griffin really felt
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was definitely part of it, but
it felt les about schematics defensively than his

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failure to just kind of be on
the same page with his players off the

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court and offensively and then yes,
defensively as well, where it seems like

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they didn't support some of the stuff
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of the season. To his credit, though he did. He did change

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and they've gotten back to their base
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a personnel issue. The next thing
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member of the Miami Heat, who
made a trade. I was, I

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mean, not super shocked that they
did something, but they did something before

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the deadline, and I always assume
that they were gonna try and preserve first

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round equity for a bigger fish,
essentially, and they didn't. They got

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Terry Rozier for Kyle Lowry and a
twenty twenty seven first round pick. It

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is lottery protected in twenty twenty seven
and then immediately unprotected in twenty twenty eight,

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which is like, that's that's weird, Like you don't normally see protections

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drop off so precipitously over the course
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unprotected, it would normally be like, oh, top fourteen, and let's

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be even a little bit more,
should be top fourteen to maybe top eight

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to then it's unprotected, or top
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then it's unprotected. That's a pretty
precipitous drop. However, it is conditional

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upon Miami conveying its first round pick
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That can spill over to twenty twenty
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clear what happens to at least I
didn't see it reported to the twenty twenty

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eight first round pick. Where right
now that's unprotected. But if that's the

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first allowable pick, is that lottery
protected and then at least out to twenty

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twenty nine. My guess would be
that if you have to send out the

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twenty twenty eight pick, it's just
unprotected no matter what, even if that's

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the first pick that Charlotte could get. The Heat also save I know everyone

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cares about this. They save a
bowload in luxury tax money because Terroorzier is

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making about six million dollars less than
Kyle Lowry this season. And what that

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does for the Heat is one of
two things. It just gives them more

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wiggle room if they want to make
other trades. As of right now,

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they're gonna be at like there.
How far are they below the second Apron

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at the moment, I think they're
about ten million dollars over the first Apron

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so they might be are they a
second apron team as we speak? They

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might be. No, they have
they're like, they have two hundred thousand

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dollars in room beneath the second apron
right now. So that's what this accomplishes

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for them. So that makes their
trade parameters a little bit easier. But

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you still would be in a situation
where you can't go past that second apron

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anyway if you don't want to be
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rule this season. The other thing
it does do, though, is because

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how how deep are they into the
tax i miss reading their cap sheet at

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the moment, I'm gonna have to
apologize there if if that's what I'm doing,

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up there. They could just cut
additional money if they wanted to get out

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of like the first aprons, Like
is it a Kayleb Martin salary dump or

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something like? And I don't even
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I'm looking at the wrong team.
I apologize here. So Miami with this

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trade, so they cut a boatload
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they are still over the first apron
I think, but they're like inside nine

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million dollars of the luxury tax.
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if they wanted to, then in
theory I mentioned Kayleb Martin, they

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could just like Kayleb Martin and like
a young player or two of their minimums,

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they could get out of the tax. Now that doesn't make it feasible,

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but it gives them more flexibility in
other trades. Rosier is a fit

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is interesting. He is owed.
It says that his final two years,

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the actual final season, is partially
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So twenty four point nine million of
twenty twenty six point six million is guaranteed

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in his final year. And so
you look at this as he's on the

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books for twenty four point nine next
season, and then he's on the books

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for twenty six point six, and
so you have over fifty million dollars committed

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to Terry Rozier over the two years
following this one. He is on the

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verge of turning thirty, So that
is this is not someone who is super

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young. The fit in itself it
makes sense for a number of reasons.

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The heats offense has been underwhelming this
season. They are entering Wednesday twenty first

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in points scored per one hundred possessions, which is that's not good. That

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filters out garbage time, using using
cleaning the glass. There twentieth in effective

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field goal percentage rate. They're not
a big offensive rebounding team. That's not

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something that there you're gonna be about
when you have you know, Bam bam

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Ada Bios your primary big and he
spends so much time on the perimeter.

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They do they they don't get up
enough threes. They're fifteenth in three point

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at ten to three, but they
are eighth in three point percentage. Terror

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Zier is gonna juice that up considerably. He has. He has been absolutely

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lights out and what's a big deal
for that happening to Charlos? The Meili

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ball has missed a ton of time, and last year Terrozier struggled a lot

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without without having the Melo ball on
the court, and this year, like

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no. His three point percentage is
kind of still low, but thirty six

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percent on seven point seven attempts per
game. The big thing for him is

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the pull up three point shooting.
He's attempted one hundred and forty five pull

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up three pointers, which he is
knocking down at a thirty nine point three

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percent clip. There are only two
other players who've taken as many pull up

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threes and are shooting them at a
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that is an addition to terror Zier. It's John Brunson and James Harden.

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So that's pretty big company to keep
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of juice, it gives you more
half court optionality. And yeah, their

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half court offense has been above average
this year in large part when Jimmy Butler's

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on the floor. And so when
Jimmy Butler's on the floor, they're in

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the seventy second percentile of half court
efficiency and they're in the sixty ninth percentile

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of offensive efficiency overall. So really
good, not great. You remove Jimmy

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Butler from the equation, which you've
done quite a bit this year. They've

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played almost twenty three hundred possessions without
Jimmy Butler, they're forty ninth in half

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court efficiency and they are nineteenth overall. They're in the nineteenth percentile of overall

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offensive efficiency. So this is going
to help you better navigate the Jimmy Butler

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list minutes because Tyler Hero and bam
Adebayo never been enough there. Bam has

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kind of overstretched as the primary hub. I think he's overrated as an offensive

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player and underrated as a defensive player. Is the best way for me to

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frame it. He has added layers
to his offensive game in each of the

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past two seasons where I think you
can count him in more to punish mismatches

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and go at at one on one, But as the kind of tip of

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the spear or the entire spear driving
the thing without another co star, it

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gets difficult what I do wonder the
implications here are for Tyler Hero and like

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longer term, it just not that
playing Tyler Hero and Kyle Lowry together made

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a lot of sense, but playing
Terry Rozier and Tyler Hero together makes feels

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like even less sense. Razi is
not as strong as Kyle Lowry. He

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doesn't have great size of his position. He will try defensively, but it's

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a lot of trying that's not a
lot of it being effective. And maybe

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he just looks better in Miami,
where you have bam Adebayo, Jimmy Butler

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and Himai Hawks with you that for
sure could help the minutes with him and

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Tyler Hero or him and Duncan Robinson
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up being my Miami's most huge closing
lineup is BAM, Jimmy, Jaimi Hawkez,

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00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:07,960
Terry Rozier and Duncan Robinson. And
so this kind of makes it hard.

404
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,079
I feel like for Tyler Hero to
crack the highest leverage situations during the

405
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:14,640
playoffs, and maybe that always would
have been the case. Could they go

406
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,720
if Kayla Martin is healthy and playing
well, maybe there's some mixing and matching

407
00:25:17,759 --> 00:25:19,920
there. I think that Heat can
do enough. Even they have Josh Richardson

408
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:25,039
too. They can insulate Terry Rozier
enough defensively. I just don't know,

409
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:29,240
And this was a problem they already
had. Can they insulate both Terry Rozier

410
00:25:29,279 --> 00:25:32,559
and Tyler Hero lineups? And those
are lineups that look a nice when Jimmy

411
00:25:32,559 --> 00:25:34,319
Butler's at like, those are lineups
you might need to turn to in some

412
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:41,200
pretty high volume. I am.
I don't want to say this is underwhelming.

413
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:42,279
I think it's a good interesting fit
for the Heat. I don't think

414
00:25:42,319 --> 00:25:47,480
Rosier is a good enough playmaker to
necessarily lead lineups on his own, despite

415
00:25:47,519 --> 00:25:49,599
the fact that he is I believe, averaging a career high and assists this

416
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,759
year. What was he at like
six assists last time I checked per game.

417
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:56,000
It's not a lot of complicated stuff
out He's at six ando point six

418
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,720
assists per game, up from five
point one last year. And so he

419
00:25:59,759 --> 00:26:02,720
has strides, is like a high
volume pass or they've put him in this

420
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:06,200
weird role. I'd argue he's over
attacks. But again, he's performed so

421
00:26:06,279 --> 00:26:08,000
well as a score this year.
But he's not someone who's gonna come in

422
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:12,440
run a bunch of traditional pick and
rolls and be super efficient at setting up

423
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,599
others. Like this is someone who's
gonna look for his own shot, and

424
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,839
there's absolutely value in that. I
just I think there is sort of a

425
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:22,599
risk here, and I say this
is Look, he's in the ninety fourth

426
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:26,000
percentile of pick and roll ball handler
efficiency this year. He is shooting,

427
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:30,799
I think, on a really large
percentage of those possessions if I'm if I'm

428
00:26:30,839 --> 00:26:34,960
not mistaken, So yeah, eighty
five point one percent of his pick and

429
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,759
roll possessions are ending with a shot
attempt. And then you tack on another

430
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:45,079
like you factor in the turnovers that
are happening there and the shooting foul frequency,

431
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,640
and you're kind of looking at this
is someone who is you know,

432
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:52,680
ninety ninety five percent of his pick
and roll possessions are ending either in a

433
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:56,119
shot attempt, a foul shot,
or a turnover, and so we're not

434
00:26:56,160 --> 00:27:00,920
looking at a ton of playmaking here. That is something to can is Nikai

435
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:03,759
is Duncan and had a thread about
this on Twitter. He's also struggled when

436
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:07,440
teams are throwing doubles at him.
I actually he won't see as many of

437
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:11,839
those in Miami, just having Bam
having maybe more dangerous shooters around than having

438
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:15,400
Jimmy. Of course, again,
I think this is a reasonable gamble to

439
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,559
make. It's just he is not
someone whereas if you would have went the

440
00:27:18,599 --> 00:27:19,960
Dejontay Murray route, which you could. I want to make it clear you

441
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:25,920
don't get Dejontay Murray for this price. You can envision him being his own

442
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:30,920
asset, like an even better asset
in his subsequent trade. I don't think

443
00:27:30,039 --> 00:27:33,519
Terry rose Year is that player when
you're talking about you'd be flipping him again

444
00:27:33,559 --> 00:27:38,160
when he's thirty, still making twenty
five twenty six million dollars a year.

445
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:42,039
That feels like a net neutral contract
at this point. Maybe with the way

446
00:27:42,039 --> 00:27:48,559
he's playing, he's providing slightly more
bang for his buck if it pays dividends

447
00:27:48,599 --> 00:27:49,880
in the postseason, though, it's
all going to be worth it. And

448
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:55,279
this was an acknowledgment from the heat. It seems that Jimmy Butler's thirty four,

449
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:56,960
like what are we waiting around for? And we know, like the

450
00:27:57,079 --> 00:28:03,720
organization doesn't seem like it's ever really
liked Kyle Lowry behind the scenes, even

451
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:04,799
though he was he was kind of
going through a run at the moment and

452
00:28:04,839 --> 00:28:11,440
had been pulled. We've seen his
minutes being slashed, but he was like

453
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,839
like he was important to them,
like if this season and too important for

454
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:18,799
someone his age and the offensive decline
that we've seen from him over the past

455
00:28:18,799 --> 00:28:22,279
couple of seasons, this is gonna
make it harder. Though Miami ever wants

456
00:28:22,319 --> 00:28:25,960
to make a bigger move, because
it's just now you've committed another future first

457
00:28:26,039 --> 00:28:26,759
round pick. You could say that
he'd always find a way. Look,

458
00:28:26,759 --> 00:28:30,319
they found himI Hawkins, and you're
absolutely right, that's all of a sudden,

459
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,079
someone if they wanted to go big, big fish hunting. You're not

460
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,319
gonna give him up for de Jonte
Murray or Zach Lvine. Certainly not a

461
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,440
Terry Rozier. I don't even think
they would give him up for a lowry

462
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,240
market in. But if you start
to get into the McHale Bridges discussions,

463
00:28:41,279 --> 00:28:45,000
or if they want to be in
the Donovan Mitchell sweepstakes, he becomes sort

464
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,799
of this trounce card for them,
and maybe they're viewing it that way.

465
00:28:47,839 --> 00:28:49,359
Although I think part of the people
be what we want to pair Donovan Mitchell,

466
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:53,039
Jimmy Butler and Van with Jimi Hawkins. It just makes their pick equity.

467
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:59,200
Let's just assume everything conveys at just
an order of how it's listed out

468
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:03,400
right now. This summer can trade
one, they could trade two first round

469
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:07,279
picks twenty twenty nine and twenty and
thirty one. Then they can include swaps

470
00:29:07,319 --> 00:29:11,359
in there. That's and then you
could technically technically it's three first round picks

471
00:29:11,359 --> 00:29:15,599
if you count this season, so
they could trade him the player after they

472
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,559
draft him. So it just it
dilutes their best best offer a little bit

473
00:29:18,559 --> 00:29:22,599
if they're especially if they're not going
to include Jim hawkas, but you still

474
00:29:22,599 --> 00:29:25,519
did. You were going to lose
Kyle Lowry's salary slots. So now you

475
00:29:25,599 --> 00:29:29,359
roll it over into a cheaper Terrorozier, he becomes valuable from a salary matching

476
00:29:29,359 --> 00:29:32,440
perspective. And look, there might
still be teams out there that just value

477
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:36,480
Tyler Hero, who is such a
flawed player. I think he's probably a

478
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:41,599
better passer in certain situations than people
give him credit for. He's also someone

479
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:45,079
he takes difficult shots, but you
can make him I mean thirty seven point

480
00:29:45,119 --> 00:29:48,200
two percent on pull up threes this
year at on ninety four attempts, and

481
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,920
so like we're talking about someone's averaging
at least you know, two or three

482
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:55,880
of those looks per game. He
has a use and so they're not completely

483
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:57,359
out of it, and they were
never going to have When you talk about

484
00:29:57,359 --> 00:30:00,839
some of these teams that will go
big game hunting, if you pit them

485
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:06,039
against New Orleans or OKAC, they're
not going to have the best offer.

486
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,279
And that's not unique to Miami.
The Lakers are going to be in that

487
00:30:08,279 --> 00:30:11,519
discuss, and the Knicks, even
they have a plethora of picks and Quenton

488
00:30:11,519 --> 00:30:15,200
grinds that they can dangle they can
be outbid. It's just which of these

489
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,799
teams will actually be involved in the
same players when they become available. And

490
00:30:18,839 --> 00:30:23,359
so Miami took a calculated risk here, and I know people like more definitive

491
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,559
tasts than this. I don't love
this deal for Miami, but I don't

492
00:30:26,599 --> 00:30:30,480
hate it either, and we'll just
have to see how it works out.

493
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:34,039
I still think they're gonna wind up
missing a pretty significant offensive element when you're

494
00:30:34,039 --> 00:30:38,480
looking at someone else who can drive
the entire offense independent of Jimmy Butler,

495
00:30:38,559 --> 00:30:44,279
and so I don't think this diminishes
their dependence on him anymore so than it

496
00:30:44,319 --> 00:30:48,799
does to upgrade the Kyle Lowry minutes
and then some of your closing units in

497
00:30:48,839 --> 00:30:52,160
the postseason. And if that's what
you did, if you upgraded closing unit

498
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:56,559
optionality in the playoffs, that fucking
matters. And so we'll have to see

499
00:30:56,559 --> 00:31:00,839
how it plays out from there.
On the Charlotte end of the spectrum,

500
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:07,000
this is interesting for them because it
signals that the new ownership group led by

501
00:31:07,079 --> 00:31:10,799
Chenall is going to rebuild, and
I think WOJE even reported that they were

502
00:31:10,799 --> 00:31:15,039
going to prioritize taking on digital money. They want to rewrite, rewrite,

503
00:31:15,119 --> 00:31:18,279
re route Kyle Lowry. They don't
want to take on longer contracts that have

504
00:31:18,359 --> 00:31:22,519
draft equity and young players. Getting
a distant first round pick here is smart.

505
00:31:22,759 --> 00:31:26,000
It's it's a lottery protected and so
if you want to say the Heat

506
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:27,799
or not, like the Heat might
be sending out an unprotected pick in twenty

507
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:30,839
twenty eight, that is good business
to you know, take on a little

508
00:31:30,839 --> 00:31:33,160
bit of money this season, and
you got out of the final two years

509
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:37,839
of Terry Rozier's deal, so where
now you can have boatloads of cap space

510
00:31:37,079 --> 00:31:41,640
this summer. If Charlotte really wants
to to max it out, they're a

511
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:45,960
team that could get to almost thirty
million dollars in room. I think a

512
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,400
lot of that's going to depend on, Okay, well, what goes on

513
00:31:48,519 --> 00:31:51,880
with the Miles Bridges cap holes.
If he wants to leave, they are

514
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:55,400
the only team that could have his
bird rights, though maybe they help with

515
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:56,319
a sign and trade. It does
seem like they would be a team that

516
00:31:56,319 --> 00:32:00,440
would be open to doing that.
They can really like they can get to

517
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:04,240
yeah, even because of the Miles
Bridges, Like they're a team that can

518
00:32:04,279 --> 00:32:07,359
get to like thirty plus million dollars
in cap space this year, and that

519
00:32:07,359 --> 00:32:10,920
that number I believe could just absolutely
skyrocket if you remove Myles Bridges from the

520
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:15,599
equation. Is cap hold's fifteen million, fifteen point one million. They're a

521
00:32:15,599 --> 00:32:19,279
team that kind of gets closer to
forty five plus million in cap space.

522
00:32:19,319 --> 00:32:23,000
It looks like that's stuff they could
use to facilitate other salary dumps. And

523
00:32:23,039 --> 00:32:25,599
they're saying, hey, we want
to rebuild around LaMelo, Mark Williams and

524
00:32:25,599 --> 00:32:29,279
Brandon Miller. That's a smart call
here, is to pick up the extra

525
00:32:29,359 --> 00:32:31,839
draft equity. I do wonder what
they could get for this whole we're willing

526
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:37,079
to lease out our cap space type
deal is what are the contracts that are

527
00:32:37,079 --> 00:32:39,279
out there that might come attached to
a first round pick. You don't have

528
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:44,359
necessarily a bunch of players to dangle
that are super used. Like Terry Rozier

529
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:49,000
was kind of that last bullet in
the chamber because Miles Bridges is whatever,

530
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:55,119
like teams with the public relations hit
because of his domestic violence incidents, accusations

531
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:59,480
charges in the past. I don't
know who's gonna actually willing to trade for

532
00:32:59,519 --> 00:33:01,119
him unless you in a cap space
this summer. It doesn't actually make sense

533
00:33:01,319 --> 00:33:07,680
to trade for him because he all
unlikely becomes a rental Gordon Ayward as a

534
00:33:07,759 --> 00:33:09,839
number, as an expiring number thirty
one and a half. There might be

535
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:13,279
teams that want to get out of
money. I mean, do the like

536
00:33:13,319 --> 00:33:15,880
do the Blazers want to undo the
DeAndre Eyton trade? Do the Nets want

537
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:19,559
to get off of Ben Simmons' contract? He has another year left on his

538
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,279
deal. I don't think you're getting
a first round pick for any of those

539
00:33:22,559 --> 00:33:28,440
scenarios. PJ. Washington becomes interesting. He's making a little bit less so,

540
00:33:28,559 --> 00:33:30,640
but if you send out his sixteen
point eight million and you're willing to

541
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:32,960
take back some bad money, I
love him. On the Clippers. Someone

542
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,720
told me that nakay is duncann't mentioned
that back in November. I promised I

543
00:33:36,799 --> 00:33:39,000
wasn't cribbing his idea. That was
something I thought of before Grant and I.

544
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:43,880
I'd been thinking on it before Grant
and I recorded last week. You

545
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,880
could probably get like, do you
get the Clippers distant first with PJ.

546
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:51,039
Tucker's money, and then you send
out another in a mere coffee and someone

547
00:33:51,119 --> 00:33:53,000
else? Do you get that first
round pick for sending out PJ. Washington,

548
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:57,720
you do that deal if you're Charlotte. I think that's the last player

549
00:33:57,759 --> 00:34:01,119
you could really count on that happening
with the I don't know that Kyle Lowry

550
00:34:01,119 --> 00:34:05,240
at twenty nine point seven million or
Gordon Hayward a thirty one point five million,

551
00:34:05,839 --> 00:34:07,639
I don't know the team that has
a contract out there that they're willing

552
00:34:07,719 --> 00:34:10,079
to compensate you to get off their
hands. You can say that the Warrior

553
00:34:10,119 --> 00:34:13,920
should get out of Andrew Wiggins business. They're not gonna give up a first

554
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:15,440
round pick or Moses Moody just to
get off of Andrew Wiggins. I'd be

555
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:20,320
pretty floored if they did that.
So you should still be open to it.

556
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,440
I mean, even if it's a
matter of what we're getting these nice

557
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,519
seconds to take on someone who leaks
into as obligations next year, Yeah,

558
00:34:25,559 --> 00:34:29,639
for sure, why not. But
the salaries of Kyle Lowry and Gordon Hayward

559
00:34:29,679 --> 00:34:34,159
are also so massive that you're probably
dealing with a bunch of moving parts here,

560
00:34:34,199 --> 00:34:37,000
and so it's just like even Dallas
might have some guys on their books

561
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:38,920
that they don't want next season.
I mean, Tim Hardway Junior is pretty

562
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:42,360
important, but they have Rashawn Holmes's
money on the books for next season.

563
00:34:42,519 --> 00:34:45,039
Maxic leebook kind of looks like a
shell of himself. Now is that money

564
00:34:45,079 --> 00:34:46,519
that they want to get off there? So could you work something out with

565
00:34:46,559 --> 00:34:50,079
them? But do they even want
a Gordon Hayward or a Kyle Lowry?

566
00:34:50,079 --> 00:34:52,719
They're probably not. My prediction would
be that both, I mean maybe not

567
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,280
both. Kyle Lowry's probably gonna get
bought out. A lot of people have

568
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:59,599
them ticketed for Philly, which he
can't. I saw people mentioning the Suns.

569
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,920
If you see reports like that,
just remember that teams that are in

570
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:07,599
the second apron uh, they can't
sign anyone who's making more than the more

571
00:35:07,599 --> 00:35:10,239
teams in the attacks in general can't
sag anyone who's making more on a buyout

572
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:14,199
market than the mid level exception,
Kyle Howard can't go to the Suns.

573
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,400
He can't go to the Clippers.
He can go to the Sixers. The

574
00:35:16,519 --> 00:35:20,840
Knicks feel like, you know,
have the Villanova juice is going And if

575
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,039
they don't trade for another guard,
is that someone they look out on the

576
00:35:23,039 --> 00:35:28,840
buyout market. I circle Philly in
New York as just two destinations for him

577
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:30,239
if and when he's he can't go
to Milwaukee if anyone wants them there,

578
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:35,079
and I don't think he's gonna upgrade
their point of attack defense if he care

579
00:35:35,119 --> 00:35:37,440
about playing time, or maybe even
like Chanson Wani, when there are teams

580
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:42,559
that, like in Orlando, could
really give him some more minutes. But

581
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,320
is he gonna be willing to sign
with a group like that with the Spurs

582
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,639
come in and just flat out try
to trade for him and say, well,

583
00:35:47,639 --> 00:35:51,840
hey, we want another sort of
veteran guard in here. Reunion with

584
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:53,519
Toronto. Maybe they don't. They
don't. They don't need a league guard

585
00:35:53,519 --> 00:35:58,920
at this point with with IQ and
Dennis Shruder and RJ Barrett there. So

586
00:35:59,159 --> 00:36:01,199
I think Kyler gets brought out.
I don't know what happens with Gordon Hayward.

587
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,880
He might want to have his bird
right still with Charlotte just to can

588
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,440
they work out a sign and trade
or would they be willing just to sign

589
00:36:07,519 --> 00:36:09,039
him to a deal that pays him
a good amount of money that they could

590
00:36:09,039 --> 00:36:13,400
potentially move later because they have to
reach a salary floor and they're gonna have

591
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,679
all this cap space this summer.
I don't know. My get gut would

592
00:36:15,679 --> 00:36:20,440
be I'd be pretty surprised if either
one of them gets moved. To be

593
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,639
honest with you, I just don't
see the really bad contracts out there that

594
00:36:22,679 --> 00:36:25,440
are gonna be you know, do
they like, are they gonna how would

595
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,480
desperately do the Hawks want to get
off of Clin Capella? The only is

596
00:36:28,519 --> 00:36:31,880
one year left on his deal,
and just yes, I just don't.

597
00:36:32,199 --> 00:36:36,880
I don't see it like there are
contracts Ben Simmons, specifically DeAndre Ayton's contracts

598
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:38,840
that looking so hot, but those
aren't teams that are going to compensate you

599
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:44,559
to take off those players. And
aside from that, they're just like you

600
00:36:44,599 --> 00:36:46,800
know, does is it is La
trying to get like they probably want to

601
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:51,519
roll their salary slots over, and
the Lakers don't necessarily want to undo any

602
00:36:51,559 --> 00:36:53,800
of their contracts. I could see
the Clippers maybe being interested, but cobbling

603
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:58,360
together the money necessary there that ends
up like I don't think they want to

604
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,679
get out of the Norman pal business. Atleast the should wants to. I

605
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:01,960
know, he makes a lot of
money, but he's a perfect fit for

606
00:37:02,039 --> 00:37:07,199
their playing alongside their stars. So
yeah, I like this deal for Charlotte

607
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,679
and for what it says about how
they're thinking, and we'll see how they

608
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:13,840
sort of maneuver moving forward. But
I think if you're a Hornets fan,

609
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,159
this is a good harbinger because it
shows that this team is you know,

610
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:21,760
they weren't winning anyway, but they're
now starting to think outside their own box

611
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,800
to where it's okay, like we're
pulling back. We have Lamellow under contract,

612
00:37:25,039 --> 00:37:28,559
we have Brandon Miller, we have
Mark Williams. Let's see what we

613
00:37:28,559 --> 00:37:31,320
could build out from there other players
on their roster. I don't Again,

614
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:35,920
I don't know who'd want to trade
for Lowry and Hayward's salaries. Straight up,

615
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:39,599
I really can't like Orlando just because
they could get there with Jonathan Isaac

616
00:37:39,639 --> 00:37:43,400
and if they really don't like I
mean Marko Folts seen his minutes come up

617
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,639
a little bit. But like they
could get there with some contracts that they

618
00:37:45,639 --> 00:37:49,119
don't need if they just wanted to
have a veteran guard there in Lowry.

619
00:37:49,119 --> 00:37:52,519
I don't think Hayward serves much purpose
unless you're worried about Wagner being injured long

620
00:37:52,599 --> 00:37:55,920
term. So like, there are
teams that could do it, just because

621
00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:00,239
I just don't necessarily see that,
Like the Spurs. As I already mentioned,

622
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:04,039
see that team when you're looking at
other Charlotte players. I still believe

623
00:38:04,599 --> 00:38:08,360
that a Cody Martin could be helpful
in the right situation. His contract is

624
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:14,599
not that steep. It only has
a year left on it after this one,

625
00:38:14,639 --> 00:38:19,280
before it becomes fully non guaranteed.
I would absolutely take a shot on

626
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,400
him. I kind of feel like
that could be it. I mean,

627
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,079
if I were the Horn I mean
Nick Richards. Yeah, he's got dealing

628
00:38:25,079 --> 00:38:29,320
with an ankle injury right now,
and Cody Martsh has been injured. He's

629
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,840
been dealing with the stuff basically since
last season. So great assault there when

630
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:35,719
you're looking at those two. Nick
Richards is a backup big. I would

631
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,320
love to see him in Denver.
But them coppling together the money necessary to

632
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:43,119
get him, like that's how little
they're working with. Could the Knicks they're

633
00:38:43,159 --> 00:38:45,400
dealing with an Isaiah Hartenstein injury,
we don't know when Mitchell Robinson's back.

634
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:51,000
Could they take a look at Nick
Richards. There's a look a first solid

635
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,480
backup big who's making five he's under
he'll be under team control actually for two

636
00:38:53,519 --> 00:38:57,440
years after this at a total of
ten million dollars. The final year is

637
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:00,639
non guaranteed. That's someone who could
have some value. Not super young,

638
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:04,199
not super old. This is he's
twenty six right now. Could Cleveland come

639
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:07,239
in and take a look. Given
the Tristan Thompson stuff, which we'll address

640
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:10,039
very quickly at the end of sort
of this, Charlotte Hornets rant, Frank

641
00:39:10,079 --> 00:39:14,880
Gilkeina should be untouchable. And what
I love about this is because Kyle Lowry's

642
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:16,119
not gonna be there for a while, we should see some real Frank Frankie

643
00:39:16,119 --> 00:39:21,760
Smokes minutes age twenty five season baby
breakout coming. I want someone just to

644
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,119
trade for J. T. Thorer
and play him. If the Hornets play

645
00:39:24,199 --> 00:39:27,519
him more, I should say we've
seen some of him, like a good

646
00:39:27,559 --> 00:39:30,400
amount of him, and Charlotte this
year we should see even more. Not

647
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,000
that I want Mark Williams to remain
injured, but there's no time rhyme for

648
00:39:32,079 --> 00:39:36,559
Mark Williams' return. And then if
you wind up trading Nick Richards, if

649
00:39:36,559 --> 00:39:38,719
you wind up trading PJ. Washington, JT. Thor is already top ten

650
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:42,480
minutes baby, he'll be top five, So I'd love to But those are

651
00:39:42,519 --> 00:39:45,199
players I would take a look at. Cody Martin. I need to see

652
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:49,079
the stuff on his knee, Nick
Richards, and then J T. Thor

653
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:52,599
the other players that would intrigue me
the most on this roster. Although clutch

654
00:39:52,639 --> 00:39:57,079
free throw shooter League Black against the
Timberwolves on a two way, maybe that

655
00:39:57,119 --> 00:40:00,920
peaks the interest of some teams.
Two more news items too, or is

656
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:04,880
it three more? Let's start with
the Tristan Thompson stuff. He's been suspended

657
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:10,960
for twenty five games for violating the
NBA's anti drugs anti drug anti drug policy.

658
00:40:12,039 --> 00:40:15,239
It was when you look at the
actual the stuff that he tested positive

659
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:22,480
for, he it was psarms LGD
DASH forty thirty three and ibut deemorn those

660
00:40:22,519 --> 00:40:27,679
are those are peds. So he's
the league announced he's be suspended for twenty

661
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:31,159
five games. He has been playing
and contributing for Cleveland, and now you

662
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:35,679
know why. Apparently someone who was
just at home and didn't look like his

663
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:39,199
NBA career was gonna continue. He
is thirty two yearso that's super ancient.

664
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:44,320
He turns thirty three in March.
This is like a semi big deal for

665
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:45,559
Cleveland. I don't know if we
see more of Like, are they gonna

666
00:40:45,559 --> 00:40:50,360
bring Isaiah Mobley to the Big Club
while Evan Mobley's injured, Jared Allen's been

667
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,639
balling out entering the All Star conversation. It gets easier for them to navigate

668
00:40:52,639 --> 00:40:55,679
when you have both mobile and Alan, because you could stagger them. I'm

669
00:40:55,679 --> 00:40:59,360
probably gonna see some more smaller lineups
from them, or maybe they go after

670
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:04,480
another big I haven't seen anything as
I'm recording this about that. And also

671
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:09,400
we have a Kevin Porter Junior update. He and let me just make sure

672
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:14,559
I get this right, pleading guilty
to a misdemeanor assault and harassment charges,

673
00:41:14,599 --> 00:41:17,760
but will avoid jail. According to
the New York Post by pleading guilty,

674
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:22,360
though it does constitute a violation of
the NBA's domestic violence policy, and so

675
00:41:22,519 --> 00:41:25,480
the league is yet to punish Kevin
Porter Junior, who was on the Rockets,

676
00:41:25,519 --> 00:41:29,760
was traded to the Thunder and then
promptly waived. We'll see if this

677
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:34,639
results then in any punishment. And
then also per that report, if KPJ

678
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,599
completes a twenty six week counseling program, he can withdraw his plea on the

679
00:41:37,639 --> 00:41:43,840
assault charge. The harassment charge would
apparently still stick. This is this whole

680
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:51,800
domestic violence incident. Allegations charges are
very difficult to grapple with the fact that

681
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,679
Kisrae Gondrazik kind of disputed a lot
of the aspects and what we thought was

682
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:59,559
evidence behind the case. And then
the initial reporting said that she had a

683
00:41:59,559 --> 00:42:02,679
fractured vertebrae that Kevin Porter Junior caused. Then it was later determined that he

684
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:06,800
didn't. He should still be don't
get me wrong, he still needs to

685
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,000
be punished by the league. We'll
see. My guess would be his NBA

686
00:42:09,079 --> 00:42:12,679
career will continue at some point.
He's just young enough, and teams are

687
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:15,039
always the stench of it always wears
off. They'll be social media outrage for

688
00:42:15,119 --> 00:42:19,039
us a couple of days, maybe
a couple of weeks, and then it's

689
00:42:19,039 --> 00:42:21,679
just going to fade. We've seen
it with other players time and again.

690
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:24,760
There will be blowback when someone trades
or signs Miles Bridges, for instance,

691
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:29,920
from Charlotte, and then it'll just
blow over. That's how professional sports works,

692
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:34,119
and it sucks. But that's where
we're at with the KPJ stuff.

693
00:42:34,519 --> 00:42:37,199
How long have we been going You're
at forty two minutes. I'm gonna try

694
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:44,000
and get to a couple of mailbag
questions since I did send out a solicitation,

695
00:42:44,599 --> 00:42:47,960
so let's go through them here.
Jt Alexander asked, can you say

696
00:42:49,039 --> 00:42:52,920
nice things about Chris Dunn. Yes, he is better than Taylen Horton Tucker,

697
00:42:52,039 --> 00:42:57,320
But I mean he is feisty as
hell on the defensive end and has

698
00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:00,360
been a huge part of Utah's turnaround
for just the assignments he's willing to take

699
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:06,280
on. And he's just kind of
like the type of guy that wears wears

700
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:09,719
an opponent like a second skin,
and the stuff that he's able to I

701
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:14,280
mean, even like he's had some
really good passing moments that really the pass

702
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:16,000
you know, the two cents in
Utah, so you've seen some of that.

703
00:43:16,079 --> 00:43:17,800
Not going to be much of a
scorer and you can't. Yeah,

704
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:22,039
he's shooting thirty seven and a half
percent on one three point attempt per game.

705
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:24,840
Not necessarily someone you're gonna be able
to count on offensively, but he's

706
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:28,960
like, he's had some really good
passing moments in Utah's But I'll say there,

707
00:43:29,039 --> 00:43:31,159
but as someone who's just gonna be
able to contest shots four steals in

708
00:43:31,199 --> 00:43:35,679
the passing lander while he's on the
ball, to navigate screens. He is

709
00:43:36,159 --> 00:43:38,679
just an absolute menace on the defensive
end, and I'll be interested to see.

710
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:42,440
I think it's probably too much of
a tall order for him to get

711
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:45,679
all defense consideration with the minutes that
he'll end up playing. He's on pace

712
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:50,760
for about maybe twelve hundred this year. If that shoots up because he survives

713
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:53,000
the he'd be a tar man.
The Bucks should look at what it cost

714
00:43:53,079 --> 00:43:55,840
to get Chris done on their team
if they have the second round equity to

715
00:43:55,880 --> 00:44:00,800
make it happen. His minutive ticked
up ever since THHT was pulled from the

716
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:06,280
rotation, basically he's been noticeably higher. But I think he would probably need

717
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,320
to get to fifteen hundred minutes to
be realistically considered. But if you're talking

718
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:12,840
about and now positions are gone,
so I hesitate to say that he's been

719
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,440
one of the ten most valuable defenders. But if there's a third team all

720
00:44:15,519 --> 00:44:17,840
defense, he'd probably be on it. You know. The minutes total just

721
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:23,000
be absolutely damned here. And so
just a great reclamation project by Utah and

722
00:44:23,079 --> 00:44:30,199
we'll see if he will see if
he sticks there long term. From Austin,

723
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:34,559
one thing that kind of annoys me
is the whole player X is six

724
00:44:34,559 --> 00:44:37,079
foot nine, but it's the same
height as a random six foot five inch

725
00:44:37,119 --> 00:44:38,800
guarter vice versa. Should the NBA
do like an annual or every few years

726
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:43,800
calibration to measure all players. The
height listings also seem to affect contracts and

727
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,039
signings often too. If a guy
like Nei Smith was constantly being said to

728
00:44:46,039 --> 00:44:49,559
be six seven to six eight instead
of like six six, that would make

729
00:44:49,639 --> 00:44:55,599
him much more expensive pursued. Probably, So I disagree here in the sense

730
00:44:55,679 --> 00:45:01,280
that they don't affect contracts, like
teams aren't gonna know the true size of

731
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:06,320
a player, and when you look
at how they're measured, it's without shoes,

732
00:45:06,519 --> 00:45:07,960
and then I think they add like
an inch or an inch and a

733
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:10,880
half. It's something weird. The
NBA should definitely fix its formula and maybe

734
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:15,880
updated so that there's less fan confusion, like the fact that Kevin Durant can

735
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:20,280
still be called like, what is
what is Kevin Durant's true size? Because

736
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:23,000
we've seen him standing next to you
know, these massive seven footers, and

737
00:45:23,079 --> 00:45:27,159
he looks taller than them. He
is now listened list is like six nine,

738
00:45:27,159 --> 00:45:29,519
six ten, and now he's listed
at six to eleven, So that's

739
00:45:29,559 --> 00:45:34,679
progress. I would be all in
favor of teams refreshing or the NBA forcing

740
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:37,280
teams to refresh these heights every year, and as far as I know,

741
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:40,519
they might actually have to, and
maybe there should be more uniformity in how

742
00:45:40,519 --> 00:45:44,119
they're being measured. We know that
it's going to be without shoes, or

743
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:47,599
do we need to have sort of
a differentiator where it's well and we see

744
00:45:47,639 --> 00:45:51,400
this one with a lot of draft
scouting reports where you're just looking at the

745
00:45:51,679 --> 00:45:54,440
listings on NBA dot Com or Basketball
Reference or whatever. It's the six foot

746
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:59,760
ten Kevin Durant or whatever it's going
to say, rather than six foot ten

747
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:04,000
with out shoes or something. But
I disagree that it costs players money in

748
00:46:04,079 --> 00:46:07,400
contracts. Maybe it, like the
fan impression of them would be different if

749
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:09,440
we saw that Aaron E. Smith
was six seven and sixty eight instead of

750
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:14,199
like sixty six. Uh. But
if that's actually if Natesmith is six seven,

751
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:15,440
six eight, then that's going to
factor into the way. The Pacers

752
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:19,679
know that and teams around the league
are gonna know that's going to factor into

753
00:46:19,679 --> 00:46:22,920
how they go after them. But
yeah, the same height stuff. It

754
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:25,880
doesn't annoy me just because it's ancillary, like it's not you know what does

755
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:30,280
it annoy you about? Why?
Why is it annoying the lack of consistency

756
00:46:30,599 --> 00:46:34,679
or because you don't like that someone
is called. I don't think anyone still

757
00:46:34,679 --> 00:46:37,960
calls Kevin Urrat six' nine for
what it's worth. But at the same

758
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:42,599
time, I don't I guess I
just don't see the impetus for it being

759
00:46:42,599 --> 00:46:45,000
annoyed. If you want consistency,
then yeah, let's make you uniformity.

760
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:50,639
Let's refresh player heights on an annual
basis, and let's have the same you

761
00:46:50,679 --> 00:46:54,280
know, the league should hire like
three height measurer people that officially have to

762
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:58,599
record this and they're the ones that
track it over the the years. And

763
00:46:58,639 --> 00:47:01,000
so maybe you break it up by
is every division have the same one so

764
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:04,679
they're six, or is every conference
because it can't take that long. I

765
00:47:04,679 --> 00:47:06,920
mean, that's a lot of traveling
for them. But over the course of

766
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:10,880
a year, like just to let's
say September or when training camps open,

767
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:14,719
you have to just make that leg
every year and you're measuring these guys and

768
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:16,599
that's just how it needs to be. I would be all for that,

769
00:47:16,639 --> 00:47:20,840
but I can't lie to you,
Austin. I don't really care about this

770
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:23,400
one. But kudos to you for
being sick of enough to take exception to

771
00:47:23,519 --> 00:47:30,559
that Everything Blacks has something on the
Pistons. Do I want to go into

772
00:47:30,559 --> 00:47:35,519
the Pistons at the moment, Yeah, it's going to the Pistons. Everything

773
00:47:35,519 --> 00:47:37,360
Blacks ass. You're the GM of
the Detroit Pistons. What do you do

774
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:40,800
this summer with sixty plus million of
cap space after signing Frank Nilakina, I

775
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:44,320
wouldn't have any cap space left,
So you've solved it for me. But

776
00:47:45,039 --> 00:47:47,960
look, I'm doing what the Hornets
say they're doing now, and I'm trying

777
00:47:49,039 --> 00:47:53,000
to use that to take on players
that other teams don't want, whether it's

778
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:57,800
as a third or fourth party or
as a direct party to another team where

779
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:01,079
if they want playing Bogdanovich, who's
the team off for next year, I'm

780
00:48:01,079 --> 00:48:04,840
gonna take back on wanted money that's
attached to a first round pick. That's

781
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:07,760
what they absolutely should be doing.
I think it's also okay, however,

782
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:10,679
when you look at free agents and
say, well, we do want to

783
00:48:10,679 --> 00:48:14,800
get better, we have this money
to spend. Can we come over the

784
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:19,320
top and get looks at these guys. I think that is absolutely fine.

785
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:22,320
What you don't want to be doing, though, is when those guys are

786
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,840
already in the upper echelon of salary. And let's think of a good example

787
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:29,000
here. Tobias Harris would be one. No, he's not going to make

788
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:30,519
thirty nine point three million dollars at
least, I don't. I don't think

789
00:48:30,519 --> 00:48:34,320
maybe the pissons off from that,
Like if he's someone who's going to get

790
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:37,840
to twenty or twenty five from a
really good team and you have to go

791
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:42,440
into the thirties just to get him, No, that's burning too much of

792
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:45,719
your resources. And there's a chance
that contract becomes borderlineer movable, or a

793
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:51,519
contract like Marvin Bagley's that you then
need to attach draft equity to to move.

794
00:48:51,679 --> 00:48:55,239
And like that's a special kind of
disaster because you gave up for second

795
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:58,159
round picks to get him, and
then gave up the second round picks to

796
00:48:58,159 --> 00:49:01,360
get rid of them. So when
it's on that scale where a player is

797
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:07,400
gonna be making enough and they are
so clearly sub max that going into the

798
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:12,119
thirties for them, let's just say
you're approaching what Tobias Harris's salary was it

799
00:49:12,159 --> 00:49:14,639
gets prohibitive, and that's what you
should not be doing. I mean,

800
00:49:14,679 --> 00:49:17,039
Demarta Rosen would fall into this category. They just shouldn't be interested in Demarta

801
00:49:17,079 --> 00:49:20,480
Rosen. And what I'm also gonna
be doing if I'm them, And this

802
00:49:20,559 --> 00:49:23,800
isn't necessarily in that order. But
let's drum up the costs of some restricted

803
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:29,079
free agents. Let's Emmanuel quickly,
Yeah, why not, let's see where

804
00:49:29,079 --> 00:49:31,039
you can drum up his offer or
Oji Anobi. The Knicks aren't gonna go

805
00:49:31,079 --> 00:49:34,000
to a max. That's a player
you could at least throw it at and

806
00:49:34,079 --> 00:49:37,519
say, Okay, that's a deal
that'll always be be movable there, like,

807
00:49:37,679 --> 00:49:39,639
but you don't want to get too
caught up in the hole. Like,

808
00:49:39,679 --> 00:49:45,800
let's see we get League Monk out
of the out of Sacramento or even

809
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:47,039
and I love him, and I
don't think they would run a reunion.

810
00:49:47,039 --> 00:49:50,519
He seem pretty miserable there by the
end of his time in Detroit. But

811
00:49:50,559 --> 00:49:52,599
like CASEP is a player option,
that's not enough. Yeah, that's a

812
00:49:52,599 --> 00:49:55,440
great glue guy, But if you're
gonna have to pay twenty five million dollars

813
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:59,760
a year to get CASEP at this
point, when you're talking about someone's gonna

814
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:02,440
be into his thirties and not a
star, that wouldn't do it for me.

815
00:50:02,559 --> 00:50:06,239
I have zero desire to see him
be sign Miles Bridges or any team

816
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:09,159
signed Miles Bridges. That in theory
is a player. When you're looking at

817
00:50:09,159 --> 00:50:13,599
his age, what he does that
archetype of player of Okay, let's let's

818
00:50:13,639 --> 00:50:17,159
go after someone like that. But
no, like that's not And if you're

819
00:50:17,159 --> 00:50:22,199
gonna overpay for anyone, I'm gonna
target shooters and wings or wings that can

820
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:25,599
shoot. And so it's what is
Buddy healed cost? Again within reason,

821
00:50:25,639 --> 00:50:30,000
if he's gonna make if it takes
you thirty million dollars to get Buddy healed

822
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:31,719
for more than if it's if it's
a Bruce Brown type situation with a one

823
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:35,559
plus one team option, okay,
whatever, I'm not gonna care who you

824
00:50:35,599 --> 00:50:38,920
give it to. But if it's
oh, two years guaranteed Klay Thompson,

825
00:50:39,199 --> 00:50:42,679
you want to give Klay Thompson forty
million dollars a year, but it's a

826
00:50:42,679 --> 00:50:45,599
one plus once or you're getting the
team option, you can try something like

827
00:50:45,639 --> 00:50:47,000
that. I'm all for it,
and you get to roll on that salary

828
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:52,440
slot. I would rather see them
surf the trade market, see what they

829
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:57,400
can make of that cap space,
or drum up the cost of players in

830
00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:00,880
free agency. They're not all gonna
be restricted free agents. The restricted free

831
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:04,199
agency class this year is like kind
of blase when you're looking at the extension

832
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:07,960
that were signed. But you could
certainly try to inflate the cost of Emmanuel

833
00:51:07,039 --> 00:51:10,320
quickly. You could certainly try and
inflate the cost of Ojiannaobe, even though

834
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:14,159
he's probably just a no brainer Max. And if you want to look at

835
00:51:14,159 --> 00:51:17,280
the one year win falls, can
it be unlike these just super or two

836
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:22,960
year windfalls. He's super high character
veterans who actually fit your team in some

837
00:51:22,039 --> 00:51:28,440
way where that's not DeMar derozen I
would I guess Thebiasaras does fit like what

838
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:31,280
they would actually need, like a
my Com or Tias Jones. Those are

839
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:36,159
players that would absolutely be okay with
them doing uh no steel clear of Gordon

840
00:51:36,199 --> 00:51:38,840
Haywards. You don't want to get
into the to the injury history there.

841
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:42,440
Do you take a look at it? If you can get role players where

842
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:44,360
it's well, they were gonna get
the mid level and we can give them

843
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:46,519
slightly more like, what does does
Bruce Brown want to come back to Detroit?

844
00:51:46,559 --> 00:51:50,679
Probably not. Just danthy Melton would
probably be a really good fit in

845
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:53,199
Detroit. Imagine him and Nasar Thompson
defending and Duran th those lineups. I

846
00:51:53,199 --> 00:51:55,480
don't know what the spacing would look
like, but those lineus would be fun

847
00:51:55,519 --> 00:52:00,360
as hell. That's what That's what
I'm trying to do. And so there's

848
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:04,480
multi steps there. But the first
option should be we're gonna see if we

849
00:52:04,519 --> 00:52:07,239
can turn this cap space into trade
targets that are coming attached to draft equity.

850
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:09,800
I don't want to see them make
any win now type trades. I

851
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:13,000
don't care who's available, because you
don't have to get your own first round

852
00:52:13,039 --> 00:52:15,199
picks to do it. You're should
be using that cap space to get extra

853
00:52:15,199 --> 00:52:21,159
first round picks. Then from there, I'm looking at players I can overpay

854
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:23,760
in the short term to come to
Detroit because you're going to have to overpay

855
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:28,679
them, but they they fit.
And actually before that, sorry, step

856
00:52:28,679 --> 00:52:32,800
two would be can we inflate the
highly coveted free agent market at all for

857
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:37,119
players that would still fit? I
mentioned Ojiannobi, I mentioned Emmanuel quickly,

858
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:39,559
What about Isaiah Joe h. Well, there's a team option Oklahoma City,

859
00:52:39,559 --> 00:52:43,119
so you're not actually gonna have him
on the open market. So then you

860
00:52:43,159 --> 00:52:45,639
pivot to, well, can we
overpay some guys? And maybe Emmanuel quickly

861
00:52:45,679 --> 00:52:49,800
falls into this a little bit.
But are we willing to go find guys

862
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,599
who will take short term win falls
where they are one plus ones? And

863
00:52:52,599 --> 00:52:55,320
so I mentioned a Buddy Healed there, I mentioned a Mike Comley, a

864
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:59,599
character guy, danthy Melton's another one
that's gonna come up. I'm not I

865
00:52:59,599 --> 00:53:02,119
guess I'm not anti Tobias Harris if
it's for one or two years, but

866
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:07,719
like, you can't treat yourself like
you're doing this to streamline or optimize the

867
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:13,480
development or the encore product of your
most important players. Kate Cunningham, j

868
00:53:13,679 --> 00:53:15,679
n Ivy of sar Thompson, Jaalenderan. Whoever you're gonna draft this year,

869
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:19,960
it shouldn't be anyone who's gonna infringe
upon you know, if you get a

870
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:22,199
Demarto Rosen or if you went and
traded for Zach Lvine with your cap space

871
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:24,760
and you had to give up minimal
draft equity, those are guys that are

872
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:30,400
probably gonna infringe upon the development of
your youngsters. And so I'm gonna look

873
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:34,519
more at these complimentary veterans ball movers. Mike Conley, I wouldn't be opposed

874
00:53:34,559 --> 00:53:37,960
to Buddy Healds here. He can
shoot the hell out of the ball.

875
00:53:37,079 --> 00:53:42,000
Klay Thompson was mostly facetious. But
again, if it's for one or two

876
00:53:42,079 --> 00:53:45,400
years, fine, and ditto for
if you went with KCP. But I

877
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:47,320
just don't like those types of players. I just think you get to a

878
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:52,599
point there the Tobias Harris is the
KCPS that you're gonna have to go more

879
00:53:52,639 --> 00:53:55,719
than one guarantee year out, and
so then that's the potential for those deals

880
00:53:55,719 --> 00:54:00,360
to become a disaster. So always
look at the contract length there first and

881
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:02,559
foremost. And I just please steal
clear of Miles Bridges. It's just not

882
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:06,480
it's not worth for some reason good
enough. I just to go through all

883
00:54:06,519 --> 00:54:07,559
this and I don't know who,
I don't know who is, but it's

884
00:54:07,559 --> 00:54:12,920
certainly not going to be Miles Bridges. So that's what I would do if

885
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:15,559
I'm Detroit. And look, if
you can't use the cap space on free

886
00:54:15,559 --> 00:54:17,760
agents, like if we get to
a point and they're worried about hitting the

887
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:21,519
salary floor, Like it's just easy
to make that stuffup via trade you can

888
00:54:21,559 --> 00:54:23,400
get you know, don't do the
whole Okay, what we want equity for

889
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:27,039
who were taken on, but are
there expiring contracts that we could just take

890
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:30,519
flyers on reclamation projects? And it's
what is? What would I'm not advocating

891
00:54:30,519 --> 00:54:34,559
for this, but an example would
be if Brooklyn just wants to get out

892
00:54:34,559 --> 00:54:37,440
of the final year of Ben Simmons'
contract, are they not willing to give

893
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:38,480
you a first round pick, but
you get some draft equity and then you

894
00:54:38,519 --> 00:54:42,760
get a look at Ben Simmons who
used to be a really good player.

895
00:54:43,039 --> 00:54:45,880
That's just one situation that brings to
mind there. Could you even you know,

896
00:54:46,039 --> 00:54:49,719
is it the Warriors at this point
they're deciding to pivot and they're looking

897
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:54,079
at moving Andrew Wiggins and the final
health two years left on his deal after

898
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:58,039
or three years left on his deal
after that? Do you take a flyer

899
00:54:58,039 --> 00:55:00,119
on him and you're still maybe you're
getting seconds or nothing if you're trying to

900
00:55:00,159 --> 00:55:02,280
make kind of a dice roll like
that. I still wouldn't do a Fannger

901
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:05,440
Wiggans. I'm not gonna lie.
I think that's too short term, thinking

902
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:08,559
i'd want draft equity for it.
That's what I'm doing for Detroit is nothing

903
00:55:09,079 --> 00:55:14,039
seismic, nothing too long term,
unless it's if it's og or manual quickly,

904
00:55:14,079 --> 00:55:15,400
I get it. But aside from
that, when you're looking at the

905
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:20,280
free agents or perspective, trade targets, trade targets that really fit your timeline

906
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:22,039
are going to cost you draft equity
and you're not good enough to give up

907
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:24,840
that draft equity. And so that's
what I'm doing. If I am in

908
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:30,920
control of Detroit, I want to
get to Rubikscal did aggregate some of these

909
00:55:31,159 --> 00:55:35,639
for me. Mattie l This is
a good one because of this time of

910
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:37,639
year. And I love these questions
because I think Mattiel is asking about pick

911
00:55:37,679 --> 00:55:42,599
protections, how to pick protections work. I love these questions because I think

912
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:45,599
I'm definitely guilty of and I'm sure
a lot of us are. They're just

913
00:55:45,599 --> 00:55:47,360
people who follow the league in a
different way. And if you're following it

914
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:52,239
from afar, you're not gonna know
like pick protections is like nuanced minutia,

915
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:55,960
Like that's really nitty gritty into the
weeds shit, and it gets thrown around

916
00:55:57,039 --> 00:55:59,599
so often, and it can happen. I'll find myself out of death where

917
00:55:59,599 --> 00:56:02,199
I'm listening podcasts, they're mentioning these
actions that are being run, and it's

918
00:56:02,199 --> 00:56:05,480
something that I would have to google
or it's just gonna turn me off because

919
00:56:05,519 --> 00:56:09,440
I'm probably too lazy to google it
sometimes in that moment. But pick protections

920
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:14,880
for Mattiel and so let's use the
Heat with and the trade for Turros.

921
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:16,960
You're with the example. So they
send out a lottery protected first round pick

922
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:22,679
in twenty twenty seven. If that
pick lottery protections means is if that pick

923
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:25,840
lands inside the lottery so one of
the top fourteen picks, Miami gets to

924
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:30,440
keep that pick then, so Charlotte
would not get it. That's what the

925
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:32,840
protection means. And it could be
whatever protection. If it's top eight protection,

926
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:37,159
that team that sent it out,
the team that's trading it gets to

927
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:39,320
keep it if it's inside the top
eight. Where things get a little bit

928
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:45,559
more complex complicated interesting is when those
protections now spill out. And so to

929
00:56:45,639 --> 00:56:49,360
use the Heat one as an example, it's lottery protected in twenty twenty seven.

930
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:51,840
So let's say the Heat are a
lottery team in twenty twenty seven,

931
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:55,199
they get to keep that pick,
but that obligation spills over to twenty twenty

932
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:59,920
eight when it's unprotected, and so
when it's unprotected, that means Charlotte gets

933
00:57:00,079 --> 00:57:02,360
that pick in twenty twenty eight,
no matter what if they did not get

934
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:07,400
it in twenty twenty seven. And
it works that way just across the board

935
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:10,760
with all protections, and you sometimes
see some really weird protections or ones that

936
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:14,639
go really far out. I would
go, you can google it. Just

937
00:57:14,679 --> 00:57:17,800
look at the NBA pick obligations,
and then go look at the picks that

938
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:22,639
Detroit and Washington o to the knicks
at the moment where it's going to go

939
00:57:22,679 --> 00:57:24,719
from. It'll be lottery protected one
year, then the next year is top

940
00:57:24,719 --> 00:57:28,519
twelve protected, and it's top ten, then it's top eight, and they

941
00:57:28,519 --> 00:57:31,159
decrease in drips and drips and drafts. An unprotected pick is still the most

942
00:57:31,199 --> 00:57:36,239
valuable draft pick that you could get. If this kind of spills into it.

943
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:38,440
I'm not sure if you're asking about
the Stepian rule, but that says

944
00:57:38,679 --> 00:57:43,840
you cannot move or be without first
round picks in consecutive seasons, and so

945
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:46,559
this might be a slightly tougher to
explain, at least in podcasts one,

946
00:57:46,599 --> 00:57:51,280
where I hope I'm not confusing you
with the audio. So if you have

947
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:54,119
traded, so let's let's continue to
use the Heat as an example. They

948
00:57:54,159 --> 00:58:00,199
cannot trade their twenty twenty six first
round pick outright at this point. They

949
00:58:00,199 --> 00:58:04,119
just can't because they owe a twenty
twenty five first to OKAC, and they

950
00:58:04,159 --> 00:58:08,960
owe a twenty twenty seven first to
Charlotte. And because you can't be without

951
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:14,920
a first round pick in two consecutive
years, you can't trade that that twenty

952
00:58:15,039 --> 00:58:16,679
twenty six pick. In this case, it leave you theoretically without a pick

953
00:58:16,719 --> 00:58:22,039
for three consecutive years. It also
gets complicated because when you're talking about these

954
00:58:22,079 --> 00:58:28,599
protections and the Heats again their obligation
with OKAC, it's protected in twenty twenty

955
00:58:28,599 --> 00:58:31,639
five and then unprotected in twenty twenty
six, and so you can't you have

956
00:58:31,679 --> 00:58:36,280
to even build around that in your
trade offer to say first allowable first round

957
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:39,360
pick. So with the Charlotte trades
as an example, the reason that you

958
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:45,719
have to use first allowable language is
they can theoretically give up a twenty twenty

959
00:58:45,719 --> 00:58:50,360
seven first round pick lottery protected,
but they can't if they didn't send out

960
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:52,960
their twenty twenty five pick and are
instead obligated to send out twenty twenty six,

961
00:58:53,199 --> 00:58:57,199
the obligation spills over to twenty twenty
eight. There is a way.

962
00:58:57,280 --> 00:59:00,719
There are two ways really around this. You can if you own another team's

963
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:04,920
pick outright, then you're fine.
So if the Heat, let's just say

964
00:59:04,679 --> 00:59:08,280
they owned I don't know much.
Let's say they own the who trades first

965
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:14,079
round picks way too often. I
don't know. Let's say they own Toronto's

966
00:59:14,519 --> 00:59:16,760
they don't trade first round I'm just
trolling them for the Yaka Pearl trade apparently.

967
00:59:17,119 --> 00:59:21,559
Let's say they own just Toronto's twenty
twenty six first round pick. They

968
00:59:21,599 --> 00:59:24,599
just they own it, free and
clear. They could trade that pick.

969
00:59:24,679 --> 00:59:29,360
They could trade their own twenty twenty
six pick. However, because they owe

970
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:32,639
those obligations in twenty five and twenty
seven, you do still have to build

971
00:59:32,679 --> 00:59:37,880
around that language since those those pick
protections leak out, And that's where pick

972
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:42,960
protections get super complicated, when they're
spilling out past that one year to where

973
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:45,480
it's not just oh, it's lottery
protected, meaning that the Heat get to

974
00:59:45,559 --> 00:59:49,400
keep it if it's in the lottery
and then it expires. It's because now

975
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:53,440
there are subsequent protections that not only
affect this obligation, but affect then what

976
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:57,360
you can do on the trade market. That's why you see teams have to

977
00:59:57,400 --> 01:00:00,719
get so creative or a lot of
just complex protection or language where it's the

978
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:05,840
lesser of these first round picks.
Another way around this though, and I'll

979
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:10,639
use let's use the Lakers as an
example. They're they owe their twenty twenty

980
01:00:10,639 --> 01:00:14,599
four first round pick to New Orleans, but New Orleans has the right to

981
01:00:14,639 --> 01:00:17,719
defer until twenty twenty five. Now, because of that language, they can't

982
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:22,159
trade either pick. But let's say
the Pelicans look at the Lakers and say

983
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:25,320
they're gonna be worse next year.
We're gonna keep We're gonna keep the twenty

984
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:30,000
twenty five pick. Now, the
Lakers before the draft, they cannot trade

985
01:00:30,039 --> 01:00:32,840
that twenty twenty four pick. As
soon as that pick becomes a player,

986
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:37,639
though, they can move him because
it doesn't count as a future draft pick.

987
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:39,519
You used it. And so when
you see I've seen a lot of

988
01:00:39,519 --> 01:00:44,880
people get confused with that type of
stuff, and that's fair. But you

989
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:50,519
can move a pick once it becomes
an actual player, regardless of your future

990
01:00:50,639 --> 01:00:54,679
or previous pick commitments. So because
they would have their twenty twenty five pick

991
01:00:54,679 --> 01:00:59,039
owe to New Orleans, No,
you can't trade your twenty twenty four pick,

992
01:00:59,239 --> 01:01:01,159
but it became a player. Let's
say they drafted number I don't know,

993
01:01:01,519 --> 01:01:05,719
eighteen or something. That's probably pretty
generous for them. But let's say

994
01:01:05,719 --> 01:01:07,960
they get the number eighteen pick.
Once they make that pick, they can

995
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:10,920
turn around and trade that player.
They will. Then most of the time

996
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:15,400
you'll wait. The deal won't be
completed until player signs a contract, and

997
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:16,719
then you have to wait. I
think the grace period is thirty days after

998
01:01:16,719 --> 01:01:21,960
that contract because then you can move
those draft picks as actual salary matching tools

999
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:25,000
rather than just hypothetical draft picks.
And so I hope that clears it up.

1000
01:01:25,039 --> 01:01:29,039
If you have any other questions,
you can message me in discord and

1001
01:01:29,039 --> 01:01:30,559
maybe I'll explain them in writing.
It's a little bit better. But that's

1002
01:01:30,599 --> 01:01:34,239
that's a really great question. That's
how prick protections work, and they can

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01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:37,039
happen in the second round when you
see because there's a rule in trades where

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01:01:37,079 --> 01:01:43,239
every team involved has to touch one
another touchable. That's why you see teams,

1005
01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:45,480
they'll either send cash, but you'll
see these fake We call them fake

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01:01:45,559 --> 01:01:52,039
seconds because they're top fifty five protected, which means that you'll only get that

1007
01:01:52,079 --> 01:01:54,000
second rounder if it's number fifty six, fifty seven, fifty eight, fifty

1008
01:01:54,079 --> 01:01:58,480
nine, and sixty. So those
are what the fake second rounders mean.

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01:01:58,599 --> 01:02:00,840
There are just some super complicated and
protected picks where you're looking at the Bucks

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01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:05,960
pick that can stay. I think
it stays in New Orleans. The New

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01:02:06,039 --> 01:02:08,599
Orleans owns the Bucks pick in twenty
twenty five. If it's in the top

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01:02:08,639 --> 01:02:13,440
four of the top five, if
its picks twenty five to thirty or twenty

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01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:15,119
six to thirty, whatever it is, the Knicks get it. I believe

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01:02:15,199 --> 01:02:19,639
is the is the language on that
one. So they can get super complicated

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01:02:20,239 --> 01:02:22,360
and they're tough to track. And
when you're coming up with trades, they

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01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:30,119
are important to note just because it
just because well, can they trade?

1017
01:02:30,159 --> 01:02:31,719
Do they? Can they even legally
trade this pick? And that Milwaukee pick

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01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:37,519
is top four protected, So New
Orleans gets Milwaukee's twenty twenty five pick if

1019
01:02:37,519 --> 01:02:39,719
it falls one to four. So
if it's one, two, three,

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01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:44,760
or four, New Orleans gets that
twenty twenty five first from Milwaukee. If

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01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:49,360
it's any of the other twenty six
picks in the first round, it then

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01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:52,360
goes to the to the Knicks.
So that's how pick protections work. I

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01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:57,800
hope that was at least a clear
enough explainer. I'm gonna do one more

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01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:02,519
here RUMSK three. So let's see
what Having given thought to the basketball metrics

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01:03:02,559 --> 01:03:05,440
one, that's a you know what. I'll do that one though, because

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01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:07,599
I think I have one top top
of mind. Rubek scal asks, what

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01:03:08,119 --> 01:03:12,480
basket what's a basketball metric that doesn't
exist but you wish someone would put it

1028
01:03:12,519 --> 01:03:15,079
together? Mine is court vision,
a metric that tracks how often you spot

1029
01:03:15,199 --> 01:03:19,199
and get the ball to someone running
a backcut or an open shooter. How

1030
01:03:19,199 --> 01:03:22,119
often do you miss the right play? How often did you use misdirection to

1031
01:03:22,119 --> 01:03:24,360
get one of your teammates free?
I would love that. I know b

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01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:28,360
Ball Index. I'm subscribed to that. It's not a free service. I

1033
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:31,000
think it's like fifty or sixty bucks
a year. They do have some really

1034
01:03:31,039 --> 01:03:35,880
in depth metrics when you're looking at
passing quality or playmaking quality that can incorporate

1035
01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:38,480
some of that stuff, But there's
nothing that's like court vision esque. There

1036
01:03:38,679 --> 01:03:43,920
I think mine would be I want
to know how players create, like who's

1037
01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:47,920
creating the most separation on their different
moves. Let's look at a step back

1038
01:03:49,039 --> 01:03:53,639
jumper attempt, or a drive to
their left coming around to screen, or

1039
01:03:53,719 --> 01:03:58,400
drive to the strong side coming around
to screen, or a dead ball stop

1040
01:03:58,719 --> 01:04:01,239
drive where it's no pick nothing,
you're at the top, you're above the

1041
01:04:01,239 --> 01:04:06,920
break, and you're just attacking downhill. Who creates the most separation from their

1042
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:11,159
starting point to when the shot attempt
goes off. I think it's probably more

1043
01:04:11,199 --> 01:04:14,880
valuable for jumpers when you're looking at
maybe escape dribbles or step backs. That

1044
01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:17,599
would be a really fun one.
It would maybe help us gauge just not

1045
01:04:17,639 --> 01:04:19,800
who I think would probably affect him, like okay, well, who has

1046
01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:23,840
the best handles or what type of
you know, how are their physical tools

1047
01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:26,559
actually translating. I would love to
see it for a guy like Brandon Miller,

1048
01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:29,360
who I am so high on Brandon
Miller now is not high at him

1049
01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:31,119
coming out of the draft, but
it seems like he's getting better at creating

1050
01:04:31,119 --> 01:04:34,559
separation. But it's also kind of
a concern when you look at his self

1051
01:04:34,599 --> 01:04:41,760
created looks. Next question from Rubik
scalwll see we can get through all three

1052
01:04:42,239 --> 01:04:45,119
of theirs. Is there a reason
why the meet doesn't distinguish between live ball

1053
01:04:45,199 --> 01:04:50,280
and dead ball turnovers? One of
them has a much higher correlation with fast

1054
01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:54,159
break opportunities, and there's a much
higher expected point value. It's a very

1055
01:04:54,159 --> 01:04:58,199
easy distinction to make between the two. I would say they absolutely do distinguish

1056
01:04:58,280 --> 01:05:00,960
between them. It's not publicly available. The publicly available stuff you can look

1057
01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:04,679
at a player, is it a
lost ball or a bad pass turnover.

1058
01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:09,440
It would be cool to see more
specific breakdowns publicly, but I can say

1059
01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:13,400
with reasonable certainty that teams are going
to have the data between live ball and

1060
01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:15,760
dead ball turnovers. And I feel
like we can get to maybe this publicly

1061
01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:17,800
available and not miss speaking, but
I feel like we can get to a

1062
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:20,840
point where now the NBA dot Com
allows you to filter out, will not

1063
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:26,159
filter out, but they will separate
heaves in some of the shot tracking data.

1064
01:05:26,599 --> 01:05:30,039
We should be able to do that
with live ball and dead ball turnovers.

1065
01:05:30,159 --> 01:05:32,199
And I think that's a great point, because one of them has a

1066
01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:36,920
much higher correlation to fast break opportunities. But I will say, you know,

1067
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:40,119
even having a cleaning of the glass
where its you can look specifically at

1068
01:05:40,119 --> 01:05:44,480
how teams are fairing in transition after
they go in defense committed turnover, or

1069
01:05:44,519 --> 01:05:48,800
after they force a turnover. But
like in those situations, it's kind of

1070
01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:55,119
implied though when you're looking at because
dead ball turnovers in transition, so you

1071
01:05:55,199 --> 01:05:57,920
know those are going to be live
ball turnovers, and so there is that

1072
01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:00,880
distinction a little bit. You can't
be I guess you could be in transition

1073
01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:02,760
off a dead ball turnover that won't
say much of the defense. I guess

1074
01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:05,480
you could be watching Milwaukee's defense.
So yeah, it'd be cool to see

1075
01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:10,599
more of a breakdown there. Number
three on a scale of being one to

1076
01:06:10,599 --> 01:06:15,360
ten, one being David Fizdale's take
that for data and ten being coach pat

1077
01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:19,480
Riley talking about foul disparity on any
given game day, where do you rate

1078
01:06:20,039 --> 01:06:25,039
Darko'reyakovic's outburst. I would really love
to hear your thoughts on the first one,

1079
01:06:25,039 --> 01:06:26,599
but feel free to do which everyone
you're like, oh, I did

1080
01:06:26,639 --> 01:06:30,280
all three, so hopefully like that
one. So here's first of all,

1081
01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:31,920
I loved what Darko Royakovich did.
I don't think we talked about on this

1082
01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:35,199
podcast. That was an epic rant. He called Scotty Barnes the future face

1083
01:06:35,199 --> 01:06:40,480
of the league. But my favorite
part was when he said it was basically,

1084
01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:43,559
just tell us next time, so
we won't even bother showing up.

1085
01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:47,480
I fucking love it's a it's an
eleven out of ten. I don't know

1086
01:06:47,519 --> 01:06:49,920
that we have There's no I don't
know. That might be one of the

1087
01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:55,000
most epic postgame rants we've ever seen. And because it's dark O Royakovic and

1088
01:06:55,039 --> 01:06:58,480
the Raptors aren't good and it's his
first year as an NBA head coach,

1089
01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:01,559
will it be iconaissance the way that
David Fizdal's take that for data is or

1090
01:07:01,559 --> 01:07:04,800
pat Riley And these are guys who
are with big market teams when they were

1091
01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:10,000
coaching too. I hope it sticks
because that is in my memory. I

1092
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:12,679
mean, Mike Brown has had some
I always think about Mike Brown with like

1093
01:07:12,679 --> 01:07:14,800
the po's and his leg is on
the desk. Mike Brown has had some

1094
01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:16,880
pretty epic he said some pretty epic
things, like he even had a really

1095
01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:19,679
good one this season as well.
It did eleven out of ten. For

1096
01:07:19,719 --> 01:07:21,960
that. I loved everything about it. I'm all for coaches. I get

1097
01:07:21,960 --> 01:07:26,639
a little tired with the refs.
Although the refs cost my team this game,

1098
01:07:26,719 --> 01:07:29,199
YadA, YadA, YadA. But
when coaches are gonna stick up for

1099
01:07:29,239 --> 01:07:30,800
their players, and when they're gonna
go do so to that degree, to

1100
01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:35,159
the point that it's impassioned hyperbole,
I fucking love it. It was just

1101
01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:40,119
it's one of my favorite post game
rants, and let's just break let's isolate

1102
01:07:40,159 --> 01:07:44,079
it to coaches, one of my
favorite coaching rants of all time, like

1103
01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:47,559
shout out to shout out to Darko, because that deserves to be iconicized and

1104
01:07:47,599 --> 01:07:51,320
we need to celebrate the anniversary of
it every single year. The part about

1105
01:07:51,360 --> 01:07:56,280
Scottie Barnes should be a meme.
The part about, uh, should we

1106
01:07:56,320 --> 01:07:58,639
even bother tell us so we don't
bother to show up? That should be

1107
01:07:58,679 --> 01:08:03,039
a reaction video. This was on
the level of, like it wasn't when

1108
01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:09,000
Aisha Curry went this game is raised
for money. I'm sorry, I just

1109
01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:11,119
saw it. I had to say
something. It wasn't on that level of

1110
01:08:11,199 --> 01:08:15,400
ridiculousness, but it's on that level
of should be tattooed to memory as that

1111
01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:18,000
type of a moment, And of
course, on the level of a David

1112
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:21,279
Fizdal I'll take that for data.
That being a one though is feels super

1113
01:08:21,279 --> 01:08:24,720
low on the scale. But this
is an eleven out of ten, no

1114
01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:29,159
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01:08:29,159 --> 01:08:30,560
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