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the nb A ed. It is all said and done, put a rap
on this twenty twenty three, twenty twenty two, twenty twenty three NBA season.
The Denver Nuggets are hailed as NBA champions for the first time. I've
been forty six years since this team was able to find itself participating and competing
for an NBA championship, and to be able to do it on the first
go around, it is quite impressive. And here to talk about it and
also to kind of round out our coveted autopsy. You know, I got
to do with my man, man. We've been putting on the coach for
a while. We get to do it one more time for this season.
My man fifty grand www dot Shaw Sports dot Net, Big hunap andc my
man, mister Warrenshaw. Helping to burn that midnight oil watching the Denver Nuggets
enjoy the spoils. What's good man, I know you're breathing a little bit
of a sigh of relief. There because you know what I'm saying, because
it's a little dark down there in Miami, a little dark, but dark
for me. That's all dark for me. But at the end of the
day, you know, I know you're swinging a lantern out there, You're
trying to find some light. You know. I'm I'm not disappointed in the
outcome, let's just say that, but ultimately really excited for no cry for
me Argentina is that, no, But it was. It was a while
NBA season, it really was, and to have an end in five games,
and I think for the most part the games were competitive. While I
don't think the series was ever really in doubt. Um, you know,
Denver was the better overall team. To see it in that way, especially
them winning on their home court, is just what it's all about. So
for me, Um, it's it's tough that the season is over. Now
We've got to focus on the draft and then ultimately Summer League and free agency,
and then you know, we'll get up for the song and the Pony
Show again sometime in October. But kudos to the Dever Nuggets and kudos to
the Miami Heat. Man, those dudes are toughest nails bro toughest nails totally.
I think the one thing that really sticks out at me Shaw when I
think about this NBA Finals is and we talked about this in the very beginning.
This was the Finals that I don't think anybody wanted, but I think
that basketball needed. And I know that we can spend a whole bunch of
time relitigating you know, the good, the good, the bads, ups
and downs. I think we'll have enough time to do that when we do
our autopsy in assessing, you know, the talent that both the Denver Nuggets
and the Miami Heat have. But a couple of things really stick out at
me because of having this NBA Finals between the Nuggets and the Heat. And
the first thing that really sticks out at me is is that this brings this
back to us appreciating the NBA having so much talent available to itself that it
is allowing us to be introduced to new superstars in the game who are taking
the opportunity to step up and shine on the brightest stages. It's also opening
up the doors too. And I've said this numerous times before, and I
hope you know our beloved quote unquote Boston Celtics and a lot of teams alike
can truly appreciate and understand that defense travels always if you are expected to win
a championship and you cannot win a championship just simply resting on the idea that
you can shoot, shoot, shoot, and you can't defend or stop the
other team or limit the other team's possessions. And this was a textbook situation
of if you didn't know the guys that were on each other these teams,
you know, whether it's the heat or the nuggets, you have to at
least appreciate that when it really came down to it, when it mattered the
most to determine who was going to win this championship, it was about the
team who came out and played better defense in the most critical situations to give
themselves the best opportunity to win these games. It wasn't like you know,
with the exception and maybe a couple of quarters sort of speak. It was
always coming down to defensive possessions, defensive stops and runs in the fourth quarter,
giving opportunities for their stars to take quality shots or get that quality shot
at a winning shot. And that to me sticks out more than anything.
When I think about this NBA Finals, well, I think in general,
right, defense absolutely does win championships. But if you take it even a
microcosm, just the last game they were left for for the NBA season finishes
eighty nine. Right, A defensive just struggle. It was a it was
a struggling to shoot. Nobody has any legs at the stage of of of
the season, and just willing their way to kind of get it done.
And I noted specifically in Game five, you know when Miami probably made a
big full pat I'm gonna have to get to the Xenosa's of starting Zeller in
the fourth quarter, but they stayed in that zone, and you know,
stuff that we talked about all the time, just like making the right adjustments,
and Yokis was like, f that, I'm going in the middle of
the zone and I dare you to stop me. And I just, you
know, for the life of me, why didn't three other teams do that
to Miami? And I understand Yokich is a great and equalizer equalizer around.
I get that nobody had a Yokis on their roster, but just the common
sense to kind of just do what's needed to be done. And as I
was looting to as you were in to begin with, to play the requisite
defense that was necessary. You know, Aaron Gordon in this series, I
think he was He was immense. CACP was immense on the defensive side of
the basketball. I know Michael Porter Junior isn't your guy, but he was
immense on the defensive side of the basketball just by sheer being able to utilize
his size for once. Yes, and he accidentally walked himself into defensive greatness
tonight. I know, I mean, you know, but there's there's something
to be said when you just have the requisite height and physical capabilities. You
know that a lot of teams don't possess. When they do, they just
don't invoke it and don't put the effort in there. And Michael Malone was
not going to allow his team to go out without playing the defense that was
necessary to win an NBA championship. So I love it. I'm gonna say
this these are one is going to be a cal spiracy theory. I mean,
how long has it been since you've heard one of those? And the
second one is I'm going to give an unsung hero shout out and we'll talk
about him later on in our autopsy report cal spiracy theory. Seeing what I
saw from Aaron Gordon, I would not be surprised. Within the next couple
of years if he continues to play at the level that he's playing, he
will be in a conversation of being a defensive Player of the Year. Because
what you're seeing right now from Aaron Gordon is the evolution of the four man
who is able to defend two guards, swings and also fives, and the
way that the Denver Nuggets play their defense. That gives a lot of a
room and opportunity for Aaron Gordon to be in the spotlight, to be in
those conversations like the Kawhi Leonards, like the Marcus Marts. You know,
for his size and stature and his athleticism. If he stays healthy, defensive
player of the Year mark my words on that. And number two, the
unsung hero for the Denver Nuggets is Christian Brown. What that kid showed me
is while he is basically looking like a deer running in headlights, he stayed
on the floor because he played with the level of intensity and defensive savvy.
I don't think Malone cared whether or not that guy got his seventeen eighteen points
or there was open shots for him, and that what he cared about most
is his on the ball defense, which was something that the Nuggets were struggling
with mightily when they got Gabe Vincent out and Kyle Lowry was soaking up a
lot of those minutes and using his veteran play. You saw Christian bound jumping,
passing lanes, tipping passes, and out rebounding. You saw that one
rebound with Butler and Ada Bayou. Amazing that a guy of his stature undersize
and definitely not man enough in the NBA, yet kids still got fresh baby
legs in the game, going out there grabbing rebounds that he probably shouldn't have
won in any situation like that, to keep the Denver Nuggets within striking distance
or to help them propel that run that they made to finally take over.
It just speaks volumes to what Mike Malone has instilled and even some of these
younger guys who were getting those opportunities and runs, and I just want to
make sure that they get their flowers as much as we credit the Yokichis and
the Murray's all alike. Now it's it's it's a team win and we understand
that. And I think you know what you're alluding to. Even when Christian
Brown, Miami basically ran into a team that had the records of talent but
actually matched their effort, and I think that's what just that what was lacking
throughout the course of the Eastern Conference side of these playoffs runs, Nobody matched
Miami's effort, and Denver was like, you're not gonna out hustle us,
and we had the records of talent to kind of get it done. And
to a man, whoever Michael Malone was able to put in there, they
gave them that effort on a consistent basis. And yeah, they stumbled in
Game two because you can argue it could have and should have been a sweep,
but ultimately, you know, Denver gets it done with with high level
basketball play, great offensive execution, smart adjustments by Michael Malone, and defense
that was befitting of an NBA champion. So I'm really really excited to shout
out to Uncle Jeff Green gets a chip, DeAndre Jordan gets a chip,
Thomas Bryant Smith gets its. Smith gets a chip. He's probably the one.
I'm so much more happier for because I think you know all of us
in a like. Man, I don't know what it is that people don't
see in this kid, but anytime that we've seen him beyond the basketball court,
he has always been a solid player. He's always been a solid role
player. It sucks because maybe there's just that much more talent in at the
point guard position that Mike Malone couldn't find any any any run for him on.
But I listen again, I'm just happy that I'm seeing some guys act
out there. Actually, you know, getting those flowers. Now, there's
something I want to get into show before we do our autopsy, and you
alluded to this, and I don't know whether or not we're going to really
have this conversation about this, more so when we talk about the heat.
But I want to know, when we were talking before we jumped on doing
this podcast, you alluded to the fact that like the Tyler hero tse what
the F right like? So I want you to kind of expound on that
real quick for me, man, because I don't know if we're going to
really have that much of an opportunity in time to speak on it, unless
we're maybe alluding to the fact that maybe this is some foretelling about the makeup
of this team and where they feel Tyler Hero is, you know, to
this Miami Heat roster an organization. Well, truth be told. So for
our fans of listeners we're recording, there's literally minutes after the NBA Finals,
so spill might come out and giving it a reason as to why he didn't
play Tyler Hero in Game five. But ultimately, you know, I think
it's something that you alluded to in the beginning of the in our finals preview,
is that hey, you just wouldn't be able to kind of throw him
in there, you know, when the chips are down in a high stake
situation. Then to me, though, then why I announced that he's available
for Game five if you weren't quit to utilize him in a high stake situation
like that. Part of it doesn't really make any sense. And clearly say
that you know what I'm thinking of. I'm thinking of Dave Chappelle, got
you a bitch. But they scored eighty nine points, so could they have
used some an offensive spark in some capacity, even if it's ten twelve minutes
in a limited time. I don't understand why he just didn't get a look
like that part to me was perplexing from Hawaii deem to be the best coach
in the NBA UM but obviously he had his reasons. Felt like maybe he
wasn't mentally right, and even if he was physically cleared, you know,
it wasn't maybe mentally right to kind of give them the requisite effort that was
needed. But to me, it's just like, that's the point. Then
then then don't even clear him, you know, because then what are we
doing? I thought we were going to see him earlier in the series.
Do you think we just didn't? Do you think Jimmy Butler may have had
a say in that? I don't know. Again, it's it's hard.
It's hard to kind of get into into any of that. And I think
especially with the with the way the game was going and Miami had and maybe
you felt like I'm not alluding to that to say I'm trying to start drama
or no, but listen, everything and any everything runs through literally Jimmy Butler,
and and I'm sure that he's going to be the type of person that
even let's say in the fourth quarter, when it really comes down to who
he wants on the floor. He knows who he wants on the floor with
on those final four or five minutes left of the game. You know what
I'm saying, that he wants to ride or die with. And it's not
to take anything from those dudes. It's just that this is the comfort level
of your best player who you're asking you to take you to the promised Land.
So that's the only reason why I was just more curious about you know,
do we think maybe that Butler may have had a say and whether or
not it made sense bringing in Tyler hero. You know what I'm saying in
a situation like what has just occurred, which I would have probably said,
yes, you're throwing everything in the kitchen sink, because this is it.
This is all you got, right like, so you might as well give
it a go. I would have liked to have seen it done earlier rather
than assume that it would have ever happened later. But to your point,
if you're gonna say the guys dressed up from Game five, then what the
hell is he not doing on the basketball court? An give if if it's
it's a it's an elimination game, so you feel you go out guns blazing
with every every bullet you have, and you know in the in the holster,
and I just that part is just perplexing. Again, Heat Nation is
going to criticize as aller minutes to begin the fourth quarter we saw Heyward Hi
Smith in the game. You know, even if it was briefly or whatever
the case may be, probably an overabundance of Kyle Lowry wish I'm, I'm,
I'm, I'm good on the Lowry stuff for a while. Um So,
so to me there, I don't know, five of those minutes could
have been here at least to kind of give him a look and ultimately,
if he gets cooked, he gets cooked. But I think, you know,
for I think for heat fans are probably like, well just why not,
why not give him a chance? You know what I mean? And
that that that I think is a little bit rough. But ultimately, you
know, the deveror Knuggles were slated and faded to win this series, regardless
whether Hero played or not. But I think it is a valid question as
to why I spilled it at least, you know, test the market a
little bit with Tyler. All right, Well, I mean and listen,
it's it's an excellent point and as an excellent reason why we wanted to make
sure we bring that to light, because I'm sure that there will probably be
answers over the next days, coming days, not just even from the post,
you know, pressor but just in general, you know, when you're
talking about, you know, did the heat really give everything that was left
possible? Explore all options possible to give themselves the best opportunity to try to
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Coming up, Callie warren Shaw Autopsy Report, Nuggets and Heat on the Slab.
Don't want to miss out here on the baseline. Time to break it
down the bush. They're dead dead, My team, My team is dead.
They knew we were coming. Man, they knew we were coming.
Time now for the breakdown. Callie Warrenshaw Baseline NBA podcasts and this is our
coveted autopsy report. Shaw and I get thrown in white coats, White coats
one more time to break down Never Nuggets in the mighty and since Never Nuggets
are the NBA champions the field, it is only right off the course,
but in a good way. So listen, Job. I didn't want to
be a believer of the Denver Nuggets only because of the fact that it was
just so hard to tell when you watch a team. I think that's the
key. When you watch a team evolved, you can really see where they're
going to stand. As far as you know their their championship medal, you
know will come shining through. And this Denver Nuggets team proved to me that
by far and away, they would have came out being the best team as
long as they played up to the level of the potential. I think the
only caveat, and you had mentioned this before, is do they have enough
depth to get them through the finish line? But when you look at the
skill level of what they got from their starters, which you can make the
argument they arguably had the best starting five in the NBA period when you look
at their starters and you look at what they had even coming off the bench
for at least nine nine players deep, I would probably argue with anyone to
tell me that they could have found that good of a startup, even to
our teams that we said, like the Milwaukee Bucks and you know, things
of that nature. I would think given the way that we've seen this Denver
Nuggets play, I don't even think the Milwaukee Bucks with a healthy Honist to
Tucumpo and what they had, even with a prime Chris Middleton, would have
been able to stop what we saw from this Denver Nuggets team, which is
a scary proposition considering that this is a team that can re up and reload
and come back from more for twenty twenty four. Yeah, I'll start where
you finished there. Denver is more or less they're locked and loaded for their
team, right fringe level free agents and no disrespect obviously to to Uncle Jeff
Green and even as Smith Thomas Ryan, who they got as a midseason trade
because he was unhappy with the Lakers, but they didn't even play him in
the playoffs. DeAndre Jordan who saw some spot in minutes in the playoffs when
Yo was injured. Reggie Jackson who they got off the scrap people as well
too. Those are the free agents. The core of this team is all
signed for a least at least another two or three years, and Yokich has
signed till twenty seven, twenty eight. So this Nuggas team, as you
alluded to, is not going anywhere. And they made a very smart trade
right I think, right before Game five of the NBA Finals, to acquire
a couple of draft picks from the OKC thunder Um. So, you know,
not necessarily this year, but even for next year, they'll be able
to have controlled talent, you know, within a paid range in essence that
they can contentially potentially can afford, because they're going to have roughly about one
hundred and seventy million dollars and committed salary next year. But when you're the
NBA champions as they are, you probably do just bring everything back and tweak
around the edges. Bruce Brown um I forgot is a has a player option.
He's opting out. He's an MBA champion, so he's opting out,
and there's a very good chance they could lose him because you know he's signed
Christians after seeing Christian Brown. Look, I'm not saying that that Bruce that
that. I'm not saying that Brown and Christian Brown are you know like that
he get it. Yeah, but it's kind of like what the Warriors did
when you know, when they when they basically went and got DiVincenzo, you
know what I mean, They thought that they were able to kind of supplement,
and I think that Nuggets were gonna would be okay with something like that.
I would I would venture to think, though, if you're Brown,
maybe you should consider staying because of the way things work for you. It's
just so hard to assume that some other team is going to be able to
put you in the best position. Not about winning the championship, I'm saying
you look at the way Brown was able to play so freely coming off as
a second unit. Never had that even playing with the Brooklyn Nets. How
many other teams you're gonna do that unless you're assuming that he's going to actually
be a starter. And I'm not completely sold on that aspect of it yet.
His shifting still has to be mean and I don't know what the market
is. I mean, if he's making he'd make roughly seven next year or
six point eight to be exact, if he opts out. I mean,
came Denver bringing back maybe two for twenty you know, give him ten million
year? Is that? Does that keep him happy? You know in the
role that he that he was in. You know, he's he's a defensive
minded guy. You know, gives you some offense here and there. But
then you're playing with the championship level team. What the difference that's going to
happen here now is where we've talked about and every other Optopsy report, where
teams are they're a quote unquote cap strapped and they're not going to have a
whole lot of flexibility. Denver Is like said, they're the NBA champion,
and then more players are going to be willing to kind of come and play
for them for the minimum or the biannual, the mid level, whatever is
available you know, to them, like they will have those options now because
your Kitchen is clearly the best player in the world. He makes the entire
of his teammates better. He doesn't score if he scores fifty, doesn't care
if he scores fifty. Year scores sixteen, and that is something that's amazing
to play with. And now you have an amazing NBA champion level coach and
Michael Malone as well too. I think, you know they're not going to
have a problem filling out the supplemental parts that are basically as you alluded to,
maybe nine through twelve on their roster, because the top seven, top
eight guys or again, they're all more or less coming back, with exception
of Brown, Bruce Brown, and I think they'll probably figure out a way
to get something done. Let me say, let me tell you this though,
so and this is you know how I was saying that Jannis is the
most dominant basketball player, Like I kept saying that because I think the word
dominant does not equate being the best player in basketball, because there are other
there are other numbers that you would probably use, or other other metrics or
tangibles that you will use in order to kind of put that stamp or that
connotation out there. But you said it correctly. Yokis is the best player
in basketball, and it's because of the things you alluded to. But there's
one other thing that really sticks out at me when I think about Yoki and
this is scary. Yokis is so damn good right now. Bro. And
I don't know if people were paying attention to this during the NBA Finals,
but I really want people to really understand the lethalness of Yoki Nicola Yoki.
During many situations when the Nuggets called for and needed a basket, shooting a
three, Yoki was probably spot on. I would be very interested from a
statistic standpoint how many first three point shots Yokis was hitting through the course of
this playoff run. It is amazing to me to see that at any moment,
if he really wants to put his mind to scoring the basketball, he
can damn will do whatever he wants to, whenever he wants to, wherever
he wants to. And you can't say that about even the Janisata Tukompo's.
You can't say that about the Jimmy Butlers. You can't even say that about
the Jason Tatums and the Joel Embiids. They haven't gotten to that point yet.
They gotta find a rhythm, they gotta find something. You gotta give
them a quarter or two before you begin to see that. Yokis can wait
until the second half, like five minutes into the third quarter and then explode
for twenty five points. But when you look at the stat sheet, he
winds up with forty. You know what I'm saying, Like that, you
can't speak to that shaw, You can't find a metric for that. That's
confidence, and more importantly, that's you knowing how you shoot the basketball.
That's you knowing how you can get your buckets. And for him to be
able to do that, man, and I just find that I'm saying,
maybe I'm just putting them up, you know, such a high praise.
But I have never seen anything like that ever in our generation. When I
look at basketball scores, I've never seen a guy basically just say I'm gonna
wait, wait, wait, and then when I explode, I'm so unstoppable
that even the other teams can't even account for. How does be able to
stop you simply because you know that you can score whenever you feel like it.
That that's doesn't heard of, that's unheard of. Yeah, well,
I mean the touches it it's remarkable, it really is. And why and
a lot of people want to get into the comparisons right now, And you
know, is he the best European player ever? And Dirk and blah blah
blah blah. I mean that's that's neither here or there. At the end
of the day. I think, you know, the Will twin is up
there with anybody right now. And I think it as we talked about it,
even in the beginning segment, when he decided that this game was not
going the way that they wanted it to go, he was like, give
me that fintball. I'm gonna go down here and I'm gonna punish whoever you
put on me guard wing big. It doesn't matter. This is what's going
to happen, you know. So to shoot as efficiently as he did in
a closed out game, and just as he has throughout the entirety of the
playoffs with that soft touch, being able to shoot from range, you know,
if if it's there for him, but operating in the post, I
think that to me and and to you maybe into some degrees too, it's
like we come from you know that era, you know where it's like,
hey, it's get your ass on the block. You're a big and he
has the ability to do whatever he wants to do. But the fact that
he didn't just camp out when his teams needed buckets and hope the ball went
in. Was as he fired away from three, he was like no,
and he didn't get him going in the paint exactly. He didn't even get
the out. He didn't bail out the heat either. Right like most guys
like Joel Embiid as dominant as an MVP like season he had, he bailed
out the Celtics, he's been He's bailed out other teams because he selled us
for jump shots. And you know, we could talk about the fact that
he was injured, not one hundred percent, I'm not talking about that.
What I'm talking about is you recognizing that you're gonna go to the place that
you want to go to, and you are going to establish your presence at
that space, and you're gonna force that other team to stop you in whatever
it is that you're attempting to do, which really should be for his size
forward North South, and Yoki showed that. I mean, do you see
the first step that he was showing once he stopped, you know, before
he was getting he basically pulled the oaky doke on the heat. He basically,
I'm gonna hand it off. I'm gonna do the two man game.
With Jamal Murray and then many situations the moment that Gabe or Lowry or any
of those small guys were assumed that he's gonna hand it off again because he
simply just wants to get Murray the ball. He basically went to that first
step and already had those guys really on his shoulders, like they literally had
to climb on top of him. And I think they, I think they
intentionally wanted to foul him to just stop it. And it's amazing to me
because the referees are sitting there just being like, oh, should we call
the whistle, No, let's let the guys play, when they're clearly clipping
the dude. They're straight up clipping this man and calling fouls like amazing,
amazing. It's still getting back and still getting buckets. Still, yeah,
and that's the I guess that's the you know, the penalty if you will,
if you're big and have that level of physicality. But his footwork is
amazing, you know. And if you're watching him on offense, it's not
just him standing at one location. There are times they're literally literally moving him.
In action. He's setting a down screen and cutting to the baseline popping
back up from a from a pin down to catch the ball in the elbow
and then dribbling and taking it to the rack and then dishing it all for
fingers, finishing with the finger roll. The guy's phenomenal. And I think
when you have that at your at your you know it's disposure if you will,
it's just it's it's something that I think Michael Malone and this Nuggets team,
they know how to play him. He knows how to play and he
doesn't try to do the things that he wouldn't necessarily be good at um or
force things, and I think that's what's so amazing. Of all the superstars
in our game, he's probably the one who forced his shots to the least.
And this is not to not anybody in any capacity, but we know
Curry takes wild shots. We know Dan Lillard takes wild shots. Where the
case it be, the wild shots so you've seen Yoki take is probably because
the shot hawk is winding down in the ball is in his hand and he
has no choice. Everything else is usually measured, And I think that's just
that's phenomenal for the way that they are systematic and almost all in almost every
single approach and offensive possession. And that's why they right up to get this
thing done. And I think that's why they should be in this conversation for
a long time. Absolutely, So one quick thing and then I want to
pivot to our boy Mpjum for there is one caveat and and I wonder if
it's probably the only thing that you may wonder now that he's an NBA champion,
where do we look at the hunger level? Right? Like, I
believe that he really is a hunger Like I think he doesn't want to say
it. He doesn't want to make it, you know, make it.
So I think there's a level of humble and sin to him. But I
do believe that he wants to be among one of the greatest players that ever
played this game of basketball. I think that he feels like that is the
best way for him to pay homage of what the game is giving him and
his family. Right, But I think that for him. One of the
things that I've noticed at times is that Yokis does has a little bit of
that Lasa fair lasadaisicalness, not in the way that we talk about when we
see Steph Curry with his recklessness of the basketball. There's a there's a risk
reward factor when you see as great a player as Yokis is in the way
that he does distribute the ball and make his other team better and stuff like
that. You saw that in an early outset that when you play against really
good, hungry defensive teams that really want it, like the Miami Heat,
they will take advantage of Yokich's you know, smoothness sort of speak and force
him to actually, hey, I need you to play a little bit more
physical and listen. It's been a while, right, Like, how long
has it been since we'll be talking about Yokis being a dirty player? Right?
I mean it's so far removed from that, which is how much it
speaks to how his game is evolved. So I just wanted to allude to
that, that part that it's really stopping Yokis. I feel like at this
moment in time, when you look into totality of his work in the last
three years, two MVPs, now, a championship and an NBA at Finals
MVP, only Yokis is stopping Yokis, and it will be frightening to see
that if he focuses more on even showing that level of aggress like marrying the
two right, you know what I'm saying. It's almost like super saying.
You know, it could really be a problem for the Western Conference and NBA
in kind if we see another level to Yo Kitchen that way, all right,
real quick, Shaw, Michael Porter Jr. I'm apologizing to you because
I was straight up land based in this kid, maybe because I was pushing
so hard to believe that he really was. He really could have been such
a dynamic force in this series. This series was primed for him to be
the secret weapons sort of speak, if the heat figured out a way to
neutralize Yo Kitchen Murray, and we just did not see that. And I
do believe that while he did show really well tonight, he actually did the
things that my god, he could basically doing his sleep the whole time in
the series and refused to do it. It just raises a bigger point to
me, Shaw, what will him winning this NBA Championship do and where do
you see him fitting in when we talk about the Denver Nuggets moving forward,
Because listen, this is all about Yokitchen Murray. Aaron Gordon knows his role.
He ain't spoiling the gravy train. He's good. He knows where he
can find himself. It's the reason why I said look for him to be
a defensive Player of the Year candidate. But where does this put Michael Porter
Junior in the structure of things when we talk about the Denver Nuggets. I'm
pretty sure Michael Porter Junior understands so what it is now and after winning an
NBA championship, if that doesn't become even more crystal clear to you, then
he's doing it wrong. I don't I don't see a world where Porter Junior
now comes out here and says, you know what, you know, Hey,
I gotta be average in twenty twenty two a game. I think we're
past that because he got into the league so young, had all the injuries.
He tried that route, tried to kind of force feed his offense,
and it just an and go right for him. So where he's at right
now and that you know, roughly seventeen to eighteen nineteen points per game range,
you know, five six rebounds, and they can play stellar defense.
But he is a guy who can get hot at times, you know,
and yeah, he can go off for thirty at night. If your kitchen
is like, Hey, you know what, go ahead do he so to
speak, I'm going to take the night off. But his role now was
clearly defined as the number three guy behind this um in this pecking order,
and you know, and Narin Gordon's not even that far behind them even when
it comes to points per game. But I think Porter Junior just has to
continue to develop his defense, stay healthy. For the most part, he's
already got his bag. He's signed to I think till twenty six, twenty
seven, he's gonna be making thirty eight forty million dollars a year. Like
there's there's he has nothing to complain about nothing, So go out here,
continue to hoop, play within the system that is designed for you to be
a high level contributor. Because it's not like he's coming off the bench or
anything like that. He's still giving them again, seventeen a game and playing,
you know, thirty plus minutes a night, right out Michael Boord Jr.
And ride this gravy chain that is Nicola Yokis for as long as you
possibly can, you know, until the wheels fall off here. And I
think that's the route for him and everybody else. When the Nuggets roster.
To be quiet honest, there's nobody who needs to be trying to do more
than what they're currently doing right now. Who do you think is more expendable
on their roster? Like if we're looking at this this this team, and
we're saying, you know what, this role or this position could certainly get
an upgrade. You know, do we see maybe you know, moving transitioning
from contapious called Will Pope not saying that he's still ain't got nothing left in
the tank. I think he's solid, But I'm just curious. You know,
you run everything back and everything is supplemental parts. Yeah, I think
for the most part, they run everything back. If there's one situation that
maybe you look at, is all right, do you feel like you have
enough at the backup point guard situation? Bruce Brown was the facto backup point
guard and he wasn't really contributing and distributing for people. You know, that's
that's just Yoki's job. That's just what it is. So you know,
when you have somebody at that level, you just don't need the traditional ball
handler so to speak. But if I was to tinker with this, maybe
you're looking to get like a true backup guard to maybe take some of that
pressure even off of your kitch at times, you know, in those young
in the in those non joker minutes, and you can run Murray more at
the two and get him, get him some off ball stuff and get somebody
who can dribble and penetrating kick out. But I mean that's nitpicking, you
know. I think they have enough three point shooting. They clearly have enough
defense, They clearly have enough size. You know. Maybe the other thing
too, was do you get another backup, you know, for for for
your kitch. But they just don't play those guys in the in the playoffs.
You just you need them to eat up regular season minutes. So Thomas
Bryan's DeAndre Jordan's of the world. Hey, they did what they need to
do in the regular season, and then we didn't see them again, you
know, you know, once once it turned you know, mid April.
But those are the things that I think the Nuggets can do, and I
don't think they'll have a hard time finding guys who will be happy to contribute
and play within the system that is now again NBA championship levels. All right,
Well, let's and there's no eulogy needed for a team that is hoisting
the championship trophy, the first championship trophy in the organization's history. Congratulations to
the Denver Nuggets once again for showing us the way. And uh hey,
beware the rest of the NBA because this roster is stacked, locked and loaded,
and they're gonna be a problem, you know, come next to this
upcoming next season and stuff. So you know, beware. You know what
I'm saying. We left We left the we left the tombs, We left
it to what you would call it. We left the grave open because nug
ain't there's nothing to put there. They're coming right back out of that crave
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What an impressive run by team who came in as the eighth seed,
made it all the way to the NBA Finals, push this to five games.
Unfortunately, they just didn't have enough gas in the tank, and you
basically saw that, you know, a line from the fact that they just
really didn't have the best matchups. Either way, a lot of good things
still came from this because if you really think about this, you got guys,
man, that have a much higher learning curve to improve and be better
at playing this game of basketball and an NBA level, which I think is
unheard of. You know what I'm saying, because a lot of times most
teams are looking at saying, well, we're gonna upgrade and we're gonna throw
a whole bunch of money at all of these free agents. And Miami could
go that role, man, But listen, there were some guys that I
really just think they just didn't. They don't have enough teeth in the game
for them to actually show whether or not they have the capabilities to stay.
And I don't think this season and I don't even think this run against the
Denver Nuggets should mitigate that. I think it should actually show more so that
there's opportunities if this team sticks together, that they can basically do what the
Denver Nuggets were able to achieve, as long as you've got your guys like
Butler and Bama to Bayu, who finally gotten an identity about how they're going
to have this team run for them to be able to execute what they were
showing us that they're capable of executing. Miami's in a in an awkward spot
because a lot of a lot of people are going to doubt them coming into
next year. You know, they had their offense was putrid. It was
twenty fifth overall coming into the playoffs, right, they still played good defense,
but they were two minutes away from being completely eliminated, you know,
in the playing tournament, you know, against the Chicago Bulls. They ultimately
obviously turned it around, got all the way to the NBA Finals, dispatching
two of the top three teams in the Eastern Conference, specifically in Milwaukee and
Boston, and having a game shooting against the Denver Nuggets. So there's nothing
to to pooh poo on their season in any capacity. However, I am
concerned. I think with what we saw offensively, you know, throughout the
course of the regular season, and I think they were able to outwill people
in the playoffs. And I just don't know how sustainable that is year over
year over year if the talent isn't up to a certain level, and they're
going to have some decisions to make, you know, player option for Victor
Oladipo, I don't really know how much he's a part of the overall plans.
Tyler Hero's extension kicks in next year. They got to figure out if
they're going to pay Gabe Vincent and Max Duce. Those are two guys who
were monumental for them. They were trying to get rid of Duncan Robinson,
they were trying to get rid of Kyle Lowry. They ended up needing both
of those guys, and they contributed throughout the course of the playoff run.
So where what's the mix, like, what what is what is the land?
And do you just lean on Jimmy and Bam? You know, BAM's
only twenty five years old and there's still room for him to grow. I
think as a NBA Star. You just sat there and said, a hold
on, you just sat there and said before when we were saying, yeah,
I've decided I just don't like his game. Are you talking about the
game that he showed in the in in in you know this finals, or
you're talking about his overall game like you're just his overall game to me,
Like he's he's clearly valuable in the system and what what Miami needs to do.
He's a lynchpin for what they're going to be in the future. I
personally am out on him. I realize more he's he's not dirty in any
capacity, but he moves pretty much on every single screen screen. Uh,
a little bit of a flopper here and there, But I think that's maybe
some of the Miami you know, the Kyle Lowrys and all of them.
Now you see that with Gay Vincent, you definitely see that. Jimmy Butler
like. But I think at the end of the day, and this is
going to sound way more negative than I mean it to be, but I
think at some point, when you don't have the requisite talent, you just
kind of have to do any and everything. And the Miame Heat are not
a dirty basketball team. They're not dirty, that's just not what they're about.
But they're not above flopping, they're not above embellishing in a way to
try to overcome some of the disadvantages they may have. You know, if
they're going to be just if if the talent on the other side, it's
just better, especially if another talent can another team can match their proverbial will.
And I think that's where miame shines is that they just have that that
will to win, that never say die. That's obviously led by Jimmy Butler
and Eric Spolsho specifically, But for me with mam he showed signs in this
playoffs where he was more aggressive and you just need him to be that all
the time, and that is not something that we have seen. And then
the MIAMEI faithful are like, hey, why aren't you a twenty five twenty
seven point per game guy, Like you could be that? But he,
you know, he does all the other little things and the intangibles that helps
miame be as successful as they as they are in most parts. So they've
got to figure out exactually what that looks like. Um, but I'm concerned
about what exactly they're going to do with the guys who they were really really
trying to get rid of. And I don't know if this playoff run kind
of kombay y'alld all of that and brought it all back together. And now
all is forgiven on the Duncan Robinson situation, all as were given on n
Kyle Liry situation, and if it is, I don't necessarily know that it
should be. Um So you bring away too many any points. Let me
I want to ask this question first, and then maybe I'll be able to
try to revisit some of the things you just said a moment ago. Let
me ask you this question, given what you've now seen the body of work
of Bam bay to Bayou, do you think BAM pairs well with Jimmy Butler.
The reason why I asked this question is because now the terminology that's going
to be thrown out there, when you see what Yokich and Murray is doing,
when you've seen when Draymond Green and Steph Curry get together, when you
see um U Job Morant and Steven Adams right like, there's there's a two
man game, right, Arden and Embid, Right, there's a two man
game. Why do you think it's so difficult for Bama to buy you to
have his two man right like Butler and Bama to buy you have been together
now for what three years? Why is it difficult for them to establish a
two man game with their skill sets? Um, I don't know that it's
not established. You know, it's just not dominant. And you know there's
again there's some deficiencies that are there. Bam still in undersize big despite having
the speed advantage in a lot of situations, he doesn't always have the size
advantage there, you know, And is his jumper rangy enough? I think,
you know, sixteen to eighteen, maybe even twenty, you feel pretty
confident. But he also misses a lot of chippies as he gets to the
lane, and we saw that throughout the course of the playoffs, like he
misses a lot of layups, and then Jimmy, maybe it's just the time,
it's what we see with him over time, he just obviously wears down.
So again, I don't think the two main game is ineffective, but
I just I don't think it's the same two man game that you can go
to with maybe some of the other matchup seal. I think what I'm alluding
to Shaws. I don't feel like the Heat or maybe spol Straw leans on
that more so, I guess in a way where I'm going with this.
And again it's just me. I feel like they are stretching Bam thin because
look at the look at their supplemental parts around him sort of speak. There's
no real definitive way that you can describe the Miami Heat, Like they want
to shoot, but they can't shoot. They want to play a two man
game, but they don't lean on the two man game, So it's kind
of like they're playing both sides of how their offense. Really, it's like
almost like they're trying to still feel it out sort of speak whatever works,
you know, they'll go with it. And I'm just saying, when you
got a player like bam I to buy you going into the offseason, when
you're saying what are the things I need to improve on? What are the
things I need to fix? And to your point, it's just like,
you know, why don't we see band become more aggressive? Well, part
of my question is is like, what what do you define as aggressiveness?
Right, because to your point, you probably would be like I can live
with him missing fifteen sixteen chippies if he's doing it consistently to be aggressive going
to the basket, but when he bails out and you know, he's like
letting other guys eat and he's not being aggressive. And then suddenly now you're
expecting him but going out there and start throwing those shots up and stuff like
that, and he's missing them. Well, you gotta remember the guys.
He's never put himself in a position where there's a rhythm to him, you
know what I'm saying. And I think this is the first time that I'm
actually questioning how the Miami Heat want to really utilize Bam out to buy you
because of the fact that you have all of these other parts around him that
don't seem to fit, you know, with consistency to what I think he
even wants to try to do. And I'm not saying it has to be
built around him. I'm just saying, look at all of these pieces that
Bam works with. I don't think that he's ever been comfortable with every single
piece that's been on the floor with him since this version of the Heat has
been out, you know what I mean, That's just me. No,
I mean again, we may just disagree there because I think how they utilize
him, you know, at the nail and setting screens, doing dribble handoffs,
kicking out to the corners and to the wings is ultimately how they want
to play, you know, especially when their shooters are hot. And that
makes a lot of a lot of sense, you know, for him.
He is a capable passer, and he's you know, has a decent basketball
like you. And obviously he's the tenacious defender of well too, and that's
just kind of like in his system. I'd be interested to see and I
don't think, you know, I can't see it now Bam ever, not
being in a uniform, but I'd be interested to see how he played and
how he looked in another uniform, in another system. Would we see him
be a little bit different. He's still averaged twenty and nine a game,
so he's not devoid of offensive talent. He's not and I'm not produced and
I'm not saying I know that's not what you're saying. I just I think,
but there's a there's still a sense. And I've say, you know,
live where I live, and a long time people like, hey,
why can't Bam be this there's always that next level I think of offensive capability
that they want to see because they see it in spurts like we saw in
even in Game five in the first half eighteen points and then he scored what
three, four or four points in the second half, and that's because maybe
he runs out of gas. But he started missing a lot of layups as
well too. Um, he's just not dominant in that way. He can
be dominant and stretches, but he's not a he's not in a he's not
an NBA elite player. He's not a super stright and and at some point,
but let me ask you this question, like, what's your take on
on Jimmy Butler, because listen, we're a long way away from the himmy
stuff that we were seeing, you know, in the first couple of rounds
of the playoffs, and he definitely trailed off, not that he wasn't good,
but he trailed off from what we saw, you know, especially in
that Milwaukee series, and that probably just was unsustainable to kind of see throughout
the course. Um, but he's thirty three, he's gonna be making roughly
fifty million dollars by the end of his contract. You know what do you
think the status is in Miami's not going to trade him, Like we're not
talking anything crazy like that, But how do you what do you think is
the next step of evolution for him or is there? And what happens with
his Miami Heat team overall. Well, so two things that really stick out
to me with with Jimmy Butler is clear that if you put enough length on
him, he's going to have difficulty being able to create and make shots the
way that he typically does. I find it interesting Shaw, And I guess
maybe it comes full circle when you see, you know, the final possession
that Jimmy Butler had to give the yacht, the Heat an opportunity to maybe
even take the lead. I think it was they think they were down by
one or no, no, they were down they were yeah, they were
down by one at the time, and he dribbles down, he goes way
deep into paint. The Nuggets don't switch and clearly I think it was Gordon.
It was Gordon or somebody that was on him, and he just he
basically tried to pump fake he did, and the Nuggets they knew that this
was coming, They knew that this was what was going to happen. They
didn't bite and what did he do? He tried to you know, he
tried to back out and then he wind up turning the ball over the table.
Call Will Pope reads the passing lane and intercepts the pass. Hey enough,
teams see what you do and if this is what your go to is,
somebody's gonna read you out. And I think this is what you know,
Jimmy Butler is gonna have to go home and do his homework on He
has to figure out a way to be able to find ways to score,
to score, to basketball against guys that are going to be taller than him,
lengthier than him, you know what I'm saying. And whether that's developing
a new you know, offensive repertoire sort to speak. We've seen guys at
his age be able to do that. The Kobe Bryant of the world,
of Lebron James of the world. That's gonna have to be his evolution.
He can't go back to the same thing that he's been doing over the last
couple of years, because you're not gonna have the advantage of playing you know,
the the Jason Jalen Browns and the Jason Tatums who are basically kind of
your size, your girth, you know what I'm saying, And you're gonna
rely on your savvyness. You're gonna have to shoot over some of the best
of the best, which in the game is becoming lengthier, more versatile,
athletic wing like three, four or five type players. And to me,
that's where I think Jimmy Butler need Himmy Butler needs to be at Well,
let's take it back to the tal Hero situation. And I know we don't
live in fantasy land here, so this week, but Tyler Hero healthy throughout
the course of those playoffs, do we get the same outcome, you know,
with Miami making it all the way to the NBA Finals, And do
they have a better chance against the Denver Nuggets. Oh, I shouldn't say
that, because I clearly they have a better chance. Could they have won
the NBA Finals Tyler Herro healthy throughout the course of the throughout the course of
the playoffs, they would have just they would just have proven me, you
know, correct in our predictions that we're saying the Nuggets would win in six.
I don't think that Tyler like Tyler Hero is a solid player. Don't
get me wrong. I Am not taking anything away from that, but Tyler
Herod was not going to be the only thing that the Miami Heat would have
needed to be able to beat this Nuggets team. Listen, we didn't even
get into all this. I don't have to because I think it's all if
you people were watching this NBA Finals, the Denver Nuggets really were the more
dominant basketball team. And if you watch this last game, this Game five,
the Denver Nuggets did everything in the they possibly could to draw this thing
out longer than it needed to be. They I mean, they clearly looked
like a team that was so nervous about not effing it up. They gave
the Miami Heat so many chances. I've just seen too many opportunities with the
Denver Nuggets could have blown the Miami Heat out of the water in this series.
And sometimes they play not to lose, and it happens. This is
your first NBA Finals, you know what I'm saying. But it does not
mitigate the fact that the Denver Nuggets would just a far superior team and they
had bodies that they could have thrown out at Tyler hero We don't know what
version of Tyler hero would have been out there on that basketball court. So
I wasn't going to rest on the idea that Tyler Hero would have changed and
things dynamically. Maybe would have aided Jimmy Butler a couple of times, but
I don't think he would have been that much of a difference maker. To
stop with them Denver Nuggets are throwing at them, Yeah, I agree with
you one one thousand percent, you know, and just kind of throwing it
out there in general. So kind of back to the matter at the hand,
gave Vincent, Max Drus big names free agents from Miami that is,
you know, maybe not necessarily on the open market, but guys who they
are probably going to want to retain. But at what number of those guys
made just under two million dollars is here? And I mean, yeah,
I just I know there's more money for them out there, So I don't
I don't know how Miami brings both of those guys back unless they move off
of Frank and Robinson. Can I throw something at you real quick? Shaw,
This is where we really see the savvy of pat Riley, right.
I think pat Riley is gonna is going to force them to make it make
a choice hey, we he'll basically and I don't think he's afraid to say
this. I mean, we picked you up off of the off of the
sidewalk, off of the causeway. You know what I'm saying. We gave
you a chance, and look where we took you, Look where our culture
took you. You want to go and see you can do that somewhere else,
have at it, you know what I'm saying. I don't think he's
afraid to let them dudes go because he's like, we can find we can
find other Max Chuses, we can find other game Vincent's and guess what,
He's proved it, you know what I'm saying. So I would think that
if you are the max Chuses and gave Vincent of the world, be very
hilarious about what you're prioritizing for yourself and your NBA career, because I think
you and I can say without without doubt, Shaw, there have been plenty
of dudes who went and collected the bag and then have been basically bagging their
ass right on the at the end of the bench twelve on the roster chart.
Coaches got no use for them, can't find them anywhere in the rotation
it doesn't play them. They're getting paid, but after that money drives up,
you will not see them playing in the NBA again. You better go
check them on NBA TV playing in the G League. I think for those
guys, you know, mid twenties, so they're not necessarily old, but
you know they haven't gotten a legitimate contract yet, and Miami can go into
attacks to retain its own guys. I just don't know what that number would
ultimately look like, and I think there'll be some bidders out there. Strus
didn't have a great NBA finals. Do you need Struss if Hero and Duncan
Robinson are healthy, I mean, they were there all year and Streuss ended
up becoming the starter. So I don't know's it's a really, really a
tough situation, I think for Miami, and do you kind of run off
of the high off of this amazing run, or do you make some harder
decisions here now fiscally understanding that you've got to rebuild them again. The team
was terrible offensively. All the guys shot terribly from the three point line this
season and got better in the playoffs. For the most part, they're terrible
rebounding team. They're one of the worst teams and block shots as well too,
So those are all things they need to figure out a way to address
in some capacity. And there's not somebody on the roster who's going to ultimately
just kind of become that. Even a guy like Ohma, You're seven,
who they don't even play. You know, his contract is up and he's
at least a legitimate six ten seven foot type big, but you know they're
not really concerned about playing him. Kevin Love free agent or are they're going
to bring him back. So to me, there's a lot of questions with
this Miami team despite this amazing run. Unfortunately, I can't help but think
it was just that it was a run, and I don't know that we
can rubber stamp them back into the top of the Eastern Conference and making the
same type of run nixt are all things being considered that I think they could
trust some stuff, but I don't know where exactly that's going to Absolutely,
but that would be a mistake on anyone's part to assume that that's what we're
talking about here, because let's not you know, I've skate Like the truth
is, they were not the best team almost like they weren't even the best
team out of their own division, right, but they they they found a
way. Unto your point, the effort, the fact that they played as
a team and they saved the best version of basketball to get them through the
playoffs for that run. Okay, And that's something you just can't teach.
And sometimes that's it's a hard road to be able to put that together unless
you have the right guys who are willing to commit and sacrifice for those things,
which is again, look look at how many teams have been trying to
do that via through free agency, through trades, right look at the Brooklyn
Nets, look at the Philadelphia seventy sixers and all those guys. So what
I'm just alluding to, Shaw is is more to the point that there is
room of opportunity for these guys to actually take stop in knowing that it took
a Denver Nuggets team that was that talented to best you, and that you
have an opportunity for yourself to improve on the things that you highlighted. You're
not good offensively, you don't shoot the basketball well, you don't rebound the
basketball well. These are things that you can actually take this off season and
work on and improve on. It'll be funny because to your point, if
some of these guys are interested more about the bag, you know what I'm
saying, because of what they what they could bring to another team. Now
you're talking about you. You're changing how you're gonna fit for what that team
is gonna do, not for what you could be doing for the Miami Heat.
So it'll be interesting. Shaw, Like a lot of times, we
look more so on the decision making of the organizations about what type of players
they are looking to put together, you know, on the roster, especially
if you already have your core guys like Butler and how to buy you right
and in Hero. But my thing is is that you know, sometimes you
also got to look as a player, what is it that you are actually
looking for, especially after you've made a run like this. Well, I'm
gonna again. I know we're running short on time, and this is kind
of maybe a bang or way to kind of go out, so to speak.
But there is the stuff, you know. And I texted you the
other day like I'm listening, I'm a little tired of I'm getting owner Bro.
I definitely am. I'm tired of him here and dame talk and hint
at things, but Lillard is a name that he I guess there could be
a slimns a slim twinkling the eye possibility. Pat Riley is going to try
to do something to improve this roster. I think he's smart enough to know
that things broke right. They weren't lucky, but things broke right for them
in a way, and they got the matchups that they were able to dominate
really kind of the Eastern Conference. Do they go out and get a guy
like Lillard? I don't know, but I think we know pat Riley is
going to big game hunt and that probably comes at the expense of the guys
I mentioned before, Lowry Tyler, Hero maybe even or Duncan Robinson, because
those are bigger contracts that can be cobbled together to try to get, you
know, another star to pair alongside Jimmy and ba blam out of bio.
All right, well listen, so let me ask you, what's your faith
me to run the heat that they that they find themselves making making the playoffs
for next year. I think they're gonna they're just too witty and strong.
I like how us first, Yeah, they're too strong well to not make
the playoffs, so they'll be in the playoffs own capacity. And I thought
they were going to be in at a four or five seed this year as
as as it stood, so I could see that potentially being their fate next
year. Um, but again, I just don't think things are going to
break right for them in the way that they did this year that they can
make another run to the NBA Finals without significant upgrades. All right, well,
fair enough, man, fair enough once again, y'all another awesome show
put together. Man, And this has been a fabulous season. Um.
I know we got a lot of stuff on the on the on the pipe
come, you know, for the for the off season, but man,
this is just a really really enjoyable season. You know, the baseline,
been doing it for ten years and then and it's it's been great to be
able for us to you know, cover and discuss another NBA Finals. And
I like the twist. I like the fact that it wound up being a
team who's never had an opportunity to hoist that trophy, to be able to
do that this year. It's what it's all about keeping the level of interest
kind of going throughout the NBA. So for our fans, listeners, thank
you so much for rocking with us this NBA season. Obviously we're still going
to be here during the offseason, drift Playoff, Summer League, the whole
nine. But this has been a wild one. To see a mid to
small market team like the dun Nugs finally get their first NBA championship is an
amazing situation you just again. For me as an NBA fan, I like
to see that type of situation and allowing other people to kind of get a
bite at the apple, as you'd like to say. Man, So shout
out to the city of Denver, shout to their fans, and obviously to
that great organization who's able to kind of get it done here into twenty two
twenty three seas Absolutely once again, we like to thank you and yours for
tuning in with us. Keep us live. Do you know how we do?
Baby for the baseline, Kylie Warrenshaw, we appreciate you guys, you
know we do. We'll catch up with you next time.