WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.439 --> 00:00:07.240 This is the baseline discussing the hot button topics of the nb A. Welcome 2 00:00:07.240 --> 00:00:11.560 everybody, your tune to the baseline Callie Warrenshaw discussing the hot button topics of 3 00:00:11.599 --> 00:00:16.120 the nb A ed. It is all said and done, put a rap 4 00:00:16.160 --> 00:00:20.879 on this twenty twenty three, twenty twenty two, twenty twenty three NBA season. 5 00:00:22.160 --> 00:00:27.039 The Denver Nuggets are hailed as NBA champions for the first time. I've 6 00:00:27.079 --> 00:00:34.520 been forty six years since this team was able to find itself participating and competing 7 00:00:34.520 --> 00:00:38.439 for an NBA championship, and to be able to do it on the first 8 00:00:38.439 --> 00:00:42.520 go around, it is quite impressive. And here to talk about it and 9 00:00:42.640 --> 00:00:47.840 also to kind of round out our coveted autopsy. You know, I got 10 00:00:47.960 --> 00:00:50.159 to do with my man, man. We've been putting on the coach for 11 00:00:50.159 --> 00:00:52.600 a while. We get to do it one more time for this season. 12 00:00:52.640 --> 00:00:56.439 My man fifty grand www dot Shaw Sports dot Net, Big hunap andc my 13 00:00:56.479 --> 00:01:00.479 man, mister Warrenshaw. Helping to burn that midnight oil watching the Denver Nuggets 14 00:01:00.520 --> 00:01:04.400 enjoy the spoils. What's good man, I know you're breathing a little bit 15 00:01:04.439 --> 00:01:08.480 of a sigh of relief. There because you know what I'm saying, because 16 00:01:08.840 --> 00:01:12.719 it's a little dark down there in Miami, a little dark, but dark 17 00:01:12.799 --> 00:01:17.760 for me. That's all dark for me. But at the end of the 18 00:01:17.879 --> 00:01:19.519 day, you know, I know you're swinging a lantern out there, You're 19 00:01:19.519 --> 00:01:25.959 trying to find some light. You know. I'm I'm not disappointed in the 20 00:01:26.000 --> 00:01:30.319 outcome, let's just say that, but ultimately really excited for no cry for 21 00:01:30.400 --> 00:01:34.239 me Argentina is that, no, But it was. It was a while 22 00:01:34.359 --> 00:01:38.599 NBA season, it really was, and to have an end in five games, 23 00:01:38.640 --> 00:01:42.680 and I think for the most part the games were competitive. While I 24 00:01:42.719 --> 00:01:45.879 don't think the series was ever really in doubt. Um, you know, 25 00:01:45.959 --> 00:01:49.359 Denver was the better overall team. To see it in that way, especially 26 00:01:49.439 --> 00:01:53.439 them winning on their home court, is just what it's all about. So 27 00:01:53.519 --> 00:01:56.959 for me, Um, it's it's tough that the season is over. Now 28 00:01:56.959 --> 00:02:01.120 We've got to focus on the draft and then ultimately Summer League and free agency, 29 00:02:01.920 --> 00:02:06.560 and then you know, we'll get up for the song and the Pony 30 00:02:06.599 --> 00:02:10.159 Show again sometime in October. But kudos to the Dever Nuggets and kudos to 31 00:02:10.159 --> 00:02:15.479 the Miami Heat. Man, those dudes are toughest nails bro toughest nails totally. 32 00:02:16.639 --> 00:02:21.560 I think the one thing that really sticks out at me Shaw when I 33 00:02:21.599 --> 00:02:24.520 think about this NBA Finals is and we talked about this in the very beginning. 34 00:02:25.039 --> 00:02:30.919 This was the Finals that I don't think anybody wanted, but I think 35 00:02:30.960 --> 00:02:36.280 that basketball needed. And I know that we can spend a whole bunch of 36 00:02:36.319 --> 00:02:38.680 time relitigating you know, the good, the good, the bads, ups 37 00:02:38.719 --> 00:02:40.919 and downs. I think we'll have enough time to do that when we do 38 00:02:40.960 --> 00:02:46.400 our autopsy in assessing, you know, the talent that both the Denver Nuggets 39 00:02:46.439 --> 00:02:49.800 and the Miami Heat have. But a couple of things really stick out at 40 00:02:49.800 --> 00:02:53.639 me because of having this NBA Finals between the Nuggets and the Heat. And 41 00:02:53.879 --> 00:02:59.719 the first thing that really sticks out at me is is that this brings this 42 00:03:00.039 --> 00:03:08.400 back to us appreciating the NBA having so much talent available to itself that it 43 00:03:08.520 --> 00:03:14.439 is allowing us to be introduced to new superstars in the game who are taking 44 00:03:14.479 --> 00:03:19.560 the opportunity to step up and shine on the brightest stages. It's also opening 45 00:03:19.599 --> 00:03:23.759 up the doors too. And I've said this numerous times before, and I 46 00:03:23.800 --> 00:03:28.479 hope you know our beloved quote unquote Boston Celtics and a lot of teams alike 47 00:03:29.000 --> 00:03:36.039 can truly appreciate and understand that defense travels always if you are expected to win 48 00:03:36.039 --> 00:03:39.599 a championship and you cannot win a championship just simply resting on the idea that 49 00:03:39.639 --> 00:03:44.960 you can shoot, shoot, shoot, and you can't defend or stop the 50 00:03:45.039 --> 00:03:49.319 other team or limit the other team's possessions. And this was a textbook situation 51 00:03:49.360 --> 00:03:52.879 of if you didn't know the guys that were on each other these teams, 52 00:03:53.280 --> 00:03:54.439 you know, whether it's the heat or the nuggets, you have to at 53 00:03:54.520 --> 00:03:58.560 least appreciate that when it really came down to it, when it mattered the 54 00:03:58.599 --> 00:04:00.639 most to determine who was going to win this championship, it was about the 55 00:04:00.680 --> 00:04:05.759 team who came out and played better defense in the most critical situations to give 56 00:04:05.800 --> 00:04:10.680 themselves the best opportunity to win these games. It wasn't like you know, 57 00:04:10.800 --> 00:04:15.000 with the exception and maybe a couple of quarters sort of speak. It was 58 00:04:15.080 --> 00:04:19.360 always coming down to defensive possessions, defensive stops and runs in the fourth quarter, 59 00:04:19.759 --> 00:04:25.040 giving opportunities for their stars to take quality shots or get that quality shot 60 00:04:25.040 --> 00:04:27.519 at a winning shot. And that to me sticks out more than anything. 61 00:04:27.519 --> 00:04:31.279 When I think about this NBA Finals, well, I think in general, 62 00:04:31.439 --> 00:04:35.000 right, defense absolutely does win championships. But if you take it even a 63 00:04:35.079 --> 00:04:39.439 microcosm, just the last game they were left for for the NBA season finishes 64 00:04:40.120 --> 00:04:44.959 eighty nine. Right, A defensive just struggle. It was a it was 65 00:04:44.959 --> 00:04:48.680 a struggling to shoot. Nobody has any legs at the stage of of of 66 00:04:48.560 --> 00:04:53.160 the season, and just willing their way to kind of get it done. 67 00:04:53.160 --> 00:04:57.879 And I noted specifically in Game five, you know when Miami probably made a 68 00:04:57.920 --> 00:05:00.879 big full pat I'm gonna have to get to the Xenosa's of starting Zeller in 69 00:05:00.879 --> 00:05:03.079 the fourth quarter, but they stayed in that zone, and you know, 70 00:05:03.120 --> 00:05:06.160 stuff that we talked about all the time, just like making the right adjustments, 71 00:05:06.160 --> 00:05:09.639 and Yokis was like, f that, I'm going in the middle of 72 00:05:09.639 --> 00:05:12.720 the zone and I dare you to stop me. And I just, you 73 00:05:12.759 --> 00:05:15.759 know, for the life of me, why didn't three other teams do that 74 00:05:15.439 --> 00:05:19.680 to Miami? And I understand Yokich is a great and equalizer equalizer around. 75 00:05:19.720 --> 00:05:24.839 I get that nobody had a Yokis on their roster, but just the common 76 00:05:25.000 --> 00:05:27.759 sense to kind of just do what's needed to be done. And as I 77 00:05:27.800 --> 00:05:30.639 was looting to as you were in to begin with, to play the requisite 78 00:05:30.639 --> 00:05:32.800 defense that was necessary. You know, Aaron Gordon in this series, I 79 00:05:32.839 --> 00:05:36.480 think he was He was immense. CACP was immense on the defensive side of 80 00:05:36.480 --> 00:05:41.040 the basketball. I know Michael Porter Junior isn't your guy, but he was 81 00:05:41.079 --> 00:05:45.199 immense on the defensive side of the basketball just by sheer being able to utilize 82 00:05:45.199 --> 00:05:49.399 his size for once. Yes, and he accidentally walked himself into defensive greatness 83 00:05:49.480 --> 00:05:54.120 tonight. I know, I mean, you know, but there's there's something 84 00:05:54.160 --> 00:05:58.240 to be said when you just have the requisite height and physical capabilities. You 85 00:05:58.240 --> 00:06:00.319 know that a lot of teams don't possess. When they do, they just 86 00:06:00.360 --> 00:06:03.160 don't invoke it and don't put the effort in there. And Michael Malone was 87 00:06:03.199 --> 00:06:06.279 not going to allow his team to go out without playing the defense that was 88 00:06:06.319 --> 00:06:11.120 necessary to win an NBA championship. So I love it. I'm gonna say 89 00:06:11.160 --> 00:06:15.480 this these are one is going to be a cal spiracy theory. I mean, 90 00:06:15.480 --> 00:06:16.920 how long has it been since you've heard one of those? And the 91 00:06:16.959 --> 00:06:20.839 second one is I'm going to give an unsung hero shout out and we'll talk 92 00:06:20.839 --> 00:06:27.439 about him later on in our autopsy report cal spiracy theory. Seeing what I 93 00:06:27.439 --> 00:06:30.000 saw from Aaron Gordon, I would not be surprised. Within the next couple 94 00:06:30.040 --> 00:06:34.079 of years if he continues to play at the level that he's playing, he 95 00:06:34.079 --> 00:06:38.560 will be in a conversation of being a defensive Player of the Year. Because 96 00:06:38.560 --> 00:06:42.399 what you're seeing right now from Aaron Gordon is the evolution of the four man 97 00:06:42.759 --> 00:06:47.040 who is able to defend two guards, swings and also fives, and the 98 00:06:47.079 --> 00:06:51.720 way that the Denver Nuggets play their defense. That gives a lot of a 99 00:06:51.800 --> 00:06:56.639 room and opportunity for Aaron Gordon to be in the spotlight, to be in 100 00:06:56.680 --> 00:07:00.240 those conversations like the Kawhi Leonards, like the Marcus Marts. You know, 101 00:07:00.279 --> 00:07:04.839 for his size and stature and his athleticism. If he stays healthy, defensive 102 00:07:04.839 --> 00:07:09.319 player of the Year mark my words on that. And number two, the 103 00:07:09.480 --> 00:07:15.319 unsung hero for the Denver Nuggets is Christian Brown. What that kid showed me 104 00:07:16.199 --> 00:07:20.959 is while he is basically looking like a deer running in headlights, he stayed 105 00:07:21.000 --> 00:07:26.600 on the floor because he played with the level of intensity and defensive savvy. 106 00:07:26.959 --> 00:07:30.600 I don't think Malone cared whether or not that guy got his seventeen eighteen points 107 00:07:30.680 --> 00:07:32.600 or there was open shots for him, and that what he cared about most 108 00:07:32.720 --> 00:07:36.600 is his on the ball defense, which was something that the Nuggets were struggling 109 00:07:36.639 --> 00:07:42.560 with mightily when they got Gabe Vincent out and Kyle Lowry was soaking up a 110 00:07:42.560 --> 00:07:46.879 lot of those minutes and using his veteran play. You saw Christian bound jumping, 111 00:07:46.240 --> 00:07:51.399 passing lanes, tipping passes, and out rebounding. You saw that one 112 00:07:51.519 --> 00:07:58.680 rebound with Butler and Ada Bayou. Amazing that a guy of his stature undersize 113 00:07:58.800 --> 00:08:03.160 and definitely not man enough in the NBA, yet kids still got fresh baby 114 00:08:03.240 --> 00:08:07.759 legs in the game, going out there grabbing rebounds that he probably shouldn't have 115 00:08:07.800 --> 00:08:11.879 won in any situation like that, to keep the Denver Nuggets within striking distance 116 00:08:11.000 --> 00:08:15.360 or to help them propel that run that they made to finally take over. 117 00:08:15.680 --> 00:08:18.680 It just speaks volumes to what Mike Malone has instilled and even some of these 118 00:08:18.720 --> 00:08:22.000 younger guys who were getting those opportunities and runs, and I just want to 119 00:08:22.000 --> 00:08:26.480 make sure that they get their flowers as much as we credit the Yokichis and 120 00:08:26.480 --> 00:08:31.120 the Murray's all alike. Now it's it's it's a team win and we understand 121 00:08:31.200 --> 00:08:33.720 that. And I think you know what you're alluding to. Even when Christian 122 00:08:33.759 --> 00:08:37.919 Brown, Miami basically ran into a team that had the records of talent but 123 00:08:39.000 --> 00:08:43.440 actually matched their effort, and I think that's what just that what was lacking 124 00:08:43.440 --> 00:08:46.440 throughout the course of the Eastern Conference side of these playoffs runs, Nobody matched 125 00:08:46.480 --> 00:08:50.000 Miami's effort, and Denver was like, you're not gonna out hustle us, 126 00:08:50.559 --> 00:08:54.080 and we had the records of talent to kind of get it done. And 127 00:08:54.120 --> 00:08:56.639 to a man, whoever Michael Malone was able to put in there, they 128 00:08:56.679 --> 00:09:01.440 gave them that effort on a consistent basis. And yeah, they stumbled in 129 00:09:01.519 --> 00:09:03.759 Game two because you can argue it could have and should have been a sweep, 130 00:09:05.360 --> 00:09:07.759 but ultimately, you know, Denver gets it done with with high level 131 00:09:09.320 --> 00:09:15.200 basketball play, great offensive execution, smart adjustments by Michael Malone, and defense 132 00:09:15.240 --> 00:09:20.559 that was befitting of an NBA champion. So I'm really really excited to shout 133 00:09:20.559 --> 00:09:22.759 out to Uncle Jeff Green gets a chip, DeAndre Jordan gets a chip, 134 00:09:24.080 --> 00:09:30.759 Thomas Bryant Smith gets its. Smith gets a chip. He's probably the one. 135 00:09:30.399 --> 00:09:35.000 I'm so much more happier for because I think you know all of us 136 00:09:35.000 --> 00:09:39.159 in a like. Man, I don't know what it is that people don't 137 00:09:39.200 --> 00:09:41.559 see in this kid, but anytime that we've seen him beyond the basketball court, 138 00:09:41.679 --> 00:09:46.039 he has always been a solid player. He's always been a solid role 139 00:09:46.080 --> 00:09:50.039 player. It sucks because maybe there's just that much more talent in at the 140 00:09:50.080 --> 00:09:54.759 point guard position that Mike Malone couldn't find any any any run for him on. 141 00:09:56.279 --> 00:10:00.720 But I listen again, I'm just happy that I'm seeing some guys act 142 00:10:00.840 --> 00:10:03.279 out there. Actually, you know, getting those flowers. Now, there's 143 00:10:03.320 --> 00:10:05.639 something I want to get into show before we do our autopsy, and you 144 00:10:05.720 --> 00:10:07.879 alluded to this, and I don't know whether or not we're going to really 145 00:10:07.919 --> 00:10:11.679 have this conversation about this, more so when we talk about the heat. 146 00:10:13.279 --> 00:10:18.240 But I want to know, when we were talking before we jumped on doing 147 00:10:18.279 --> 00:10:24.000 this podcast, you alluded to the fact that like the Tyler hero tse what 148 00:10:24.159 --> 00:10:28.240 the F right like? So I want you to kind of expound on that 149 00:10:28.279 --> 00:10:30.480 real quick for me, man, because I don't know if we're going to 150 00:10:30.519 --> 00:10:33.600 really have that much of an opportunity in time to speak on it, unless 151 00:10:33.600 --> 00:10:37.840 we're maybe alluding to the fact that maybe this is some foretelling about the makeup 152 00:10:37.879 --> 00:10:41.639 of this team and where they feel Tyler Hero is, you know, to 153 00:10:41.759 --> 00:10:45.879 this Miami Heat roster an organization. Well, truth be told. So for 154 00:10:45.879 --> 00:10:48.679 our fans of listeners we're recording, there's literally minutes after the NBA Finals, 155 00:10:48.679 --> 00:10:52.039 so spill might come out and giving it a reason as to why he didn't 156 00:10:52.039 --> 00:10:56.399 play Tyler Hero in Game five. But ultimately, you know, I think 157 00:10:56.440 --> 00:10:58.600 it's something that you alluded to in the beginning of the in our finals preview, 158 00:11:00.240 --> 00:11:01.759 is that hey, you just wouldn't be able to kind of throw him 159 00:11:01.799 --> 00:11:05.120 in there, you know, when the chips are down in a high stake 160 00:11:05.200 --> 00:11:09.120 situation. Then to me, though, then why I announced that he's available 161 00:11:09.159 --> 00:11:15.000 for Game five if you weren't quit to utilize him in a high stake situation 162 00:11:15.080 --> 00:11:18.039 like that. Part of it doesn't really make any sense. And clearly say 163 00:11:18.039 --> 00:11:20.440 that you know what I'm thinking of. I'm thinking of Dave Chappelle, got 164 00:11:20.440 --> 00:11:26.120 you a bitch. But they scored eighty nine points, so could they have 165 00:11:26.240 --> 00:11:30.519 used some an offensive spark in some capacity, even if it's ten twelve minutes 166 00:11:30.559 --> 00:11:33.320 in a limited time. I don't understand why he just didn't get a look 167 00:11:33.360 --> 00:11:37.639 like that part to me was perplexing from Hawaii deem to be the best coach 168 00:11:37.679 --> 00:11:41.440 in the NBA UM but obviously he had his reasons. Felt like maybe he 169 00:11:41.519 --> 00:11:45.120 wasn't mentally right, and even if he was physically cleared, you know, 170 00:11:45.080 --> 00:11:46.879 it wasn't maybe mentally right to kind of give them the requisite effort that was 171 00:11:46.919 --> 00:11:50.240 needed. But to me, it's just like, that's the point. Then 172 00:11:50.279 --> 00:11:52.960 then then don't even clear him, you know, because then what are we 173 00:11:52.000 --> 00:11:54.320 doing? I thought we were going to see him earlier in the series. 174 00:11:54.440 --> 00:11:56.759 Do you think we just didn't? Do you think Jimmy Butler may have had 175 00:11:56.759 --> 00:12:01.240 a say in that? I don't know. Again, it's it's hard. 176 00:12:01.320 --> 00:12:03.080 It's hard to kind of get into into any of that. And I think 177 00:12:03.200 --> 00:12:09.000 especially with the with the way the game was going and Miami had and maybe 178 00:12:09.000 --> 00:12:11.279 you felt like I'm not alluding to that to say I'm trying to start drama 179 00:12:11.759 --> 00:12:18.120 or no, but listen, everything and any everything runs through literally Jimmy Butler, 180 00:12:18.200 --> 00:12:20.879 and and I'm sure that he's going to be the type of person that 181 00:12:20.960 --> 00:12:22.799 even let's say in the fourth quarter, when it really comes down to who 182 00:12:22.879 --> 00:12:26.559 he wants on the floor. He knows who he wants on the floor with 183 00:12:26.639 --> 00:12:28.679 on those final four or five minutes left of the game. You know what 184 00:12:28.720 --> 00:12:31.960 I'm saying, that he wants to ride or die with. And it's not 185 00:12:31.000 --> 00:12:35.120 to take anything from those dudes. It's just that this is the comfort level 186 00:12:35.120 --> 00:12:37.679 of your best player who you're asking you to take you to the promised Land. 187 00:12:37.720 --> 00:12:41.279 So that's the only reason why I was just more curious about you know, 188 00:12:41.320 --> 00:12:43.519 do we think maybe that Butler may have had a say and whether or 189 00:12:43.559 --> 00:12:46.440 not it made sense bringing in Tyler hero. You know what I'm saying in 190 00:12:46.480 --> 00:12:50.360 a situation like what has just occurred, which I would have probably said, 191 00:12:50.440 --> 00:12:54.960 yes, you're throwing everything in the kitchen sink, because this is it. 192 00:12:54.000 --> 00:12:56.360 This is all you got, right like, so you might as well give 193 00:12:56.360 --> 00:13:00.600 it a go. I would have liked to have seen it done earlier rather 194 00:13:00.600 --> 00:13:03.480 than assume that it would have ever happened later. But to your point, 195 00:13:03.559 --> 00:13:07.080 if you're gonna say the guys dressed up from Game five, then what the 196 00:13:07.120 --> 00:13:11.360 hell is he not doing on the basketball court? An give if if it's 197 00:13:11.399 --> 00:13:13.639 it's a it's an elimination game, so you feel you go out guns blazing 198 00:13:13.639 --> 00:13:18.080 with every every bullet you have, and you know in the in the holster, 199 00:13:18.399 --> 00:13:20.639 and I just that part is just perplexing. Again, Heat Nation is 200 00:13:20.679 --> 00:13:24.320 going to criticize as aller minutes to begin the fourth quarter we saw Heyward Hi 201 00:13:24.399 --> 00:13:26.679 Smith in the game. You know, even if it was briefly or whatever 202 00:13:26.720 --> 00:13:31.799 the case may be, probably an overabundance of Kyle Lowry wish I'm, I'm, 203 00:13:31.399 --> 00:13:35.000 I'm, I'm good on the Lowry stuff for a while. Um So, 204 00:13:35.000 --> 00:13:37.279 so to me there, I don't know, five of those minutes could 205 00:13:37.279 --> 00:13:39.679 have been here at least to kind of give him a look and ultimately, 206 00:13:39.720 --> 00:13:43.399 if he gets cooked, he gets cooked. But I think, you know, 207 00:13:43.480 --> 00:13:46.639 for I think for heat fans are probably like, well just why not, 208 00:13:46.759 --> 00:13:48.080 why not give him a chance? You know what I mean? And 209 00:13:48.120 --> 00:13:52.120 that that that I think is a little bit rough. But ultimately, you 210 00:13:52.159 --> 00:13:54.679 know, the deveror Knuggles were slated and faded to win this series, regardless 211 00:13:56.039 --> 00:13:58.159 whether Hero played or not. But I think it is a valid question as 212 00:13:58.159 --> 00:14:01.320 to why I spilled it at least, you know, test the market a 213 00:14:01.320 --> 00:14:03.559 little bit with Tyler. All right, Well, I mean and listen, 214 00:14:03.600 --> 00:14:07.159 it's it's an excellent point and as an excellent reason why we wanted to make 215 00:14:07.159 --> 00:14:09.080 sure we bring that to light, because I'm sure that there will probably be 216 00:14:09.120 --> 00:14:13.840 answers over the next days, coming days, not just even from the post, 217 00:14:13.200 --> 00:14:16.919 you know, pressor but just in general, you know, when you're 218 00:14:16.960 --> 00:14:20.080 talking about, you know, did the heat really give everything that was left 219 00:14:20.720 --> 00:14:26.519 possible? Explore all options possible to give themselves the best opportunity to try to 220 00:14:26.559 --> 00:14:31.200 extend this NBA Finals Your tune to the Baseline Cali Warnshaw discussing the hot button 221 00:14:31.279 --> 00:14:35.000 topics of the NBA. This is our special edition of the Baseline. 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Shaw and I get thrown in white coats, White coats 248 00:16:41.559 --> 00:16:48.039 one more time to break down Never Nuggets in the mighty and since Never Nuggets 249 00:16:48.039 --> 00:16:52.000 are the NBA champions the field, it is only right off the course, 250 00:16:56.240 --> 00:17:02.200 but in a good way. So listen, Job. I didn't want to 251 00:17:02.200 --> 00:17:07.000 be a believer of the Denver Nuggets only because of the fact that it was 252 00:17:07.039 --> 00:17:15.240 just so hard to tell when you watch a team. I think that's the 253 00:17:15.319 --> 00:17:19.000 key. When you watch a team evolved, you can really see where they're 254 00:17:19.039 --> 00:17:23.759 going to stand. As far as you know their their championship medal, you 255 00:17:23.799 --> 00:17:30.759 know will come shining through. And this Denver Nuggets team proved to me that 256 00:17:32.519 --> 00:17:36.640 by far and away, they would have came out being the best team as 257 00:17:36.680 --> 00:17:40.039 long as they played up to the level of the potential. I think the 258 00:17:40.079 --> 00:17:42.680 only caveat, and you had mentioned this before, is do they have enough 259 00:17:42.839 --> 00:17:47.440 depth to get them through the finish line? But when you look at the 260 00:17:47.519 --> 00:17:51.680 skill level of what they got from their starters, which you can make the 261 00:17:51.799 --> 00:17:56.599 argument they arguably had the best starting five in the NBA period when you look 262 00:17:56.640 --> 00:18:00.359 at their starters and you look at what they had even coming off the bench 263 00:18:00.640 --> 00:18:07.400 for at least nine nine players deep, I would probably argue with anyone to 264 00:18:07.440 --> 00:18:10.920 tell me that they could have found that good of a startup, even to 265 00:18:11.079 --> 00:18:14.720 our teams that we said, like the Milwaukee Bucks and you know, things 266 00:18:14.720 --> 00:18:18.359 of that nature. I would think given the way that we've seen this Denver 267 00:18:18.440 --> 00:18:22.839 Nuggets play, I don't even think the Milwaukee Bucks with a healthy Honist to 268 00:18:22.880 --> 00:18:26.799 Tucumpo and what they had, even with a prime Chris Middleton, would have 269 00:18:26.839 --> 00:18:30.799 been able to stop what we saw from this Denver Nuggets team, which is 270 00:18:30.799 --> 00:18:36.839 a scary proposition considering that this is a team that can re up and reload 271 00:18:37.279 --> 00:18:41.160 and come back from more for twenty twenty four. Yeah, I'll start where 272 00:18:41.160 --> 00:18:45.000 you finished there. Denver is more or less they're locked and loaded for their 273 00:18:45.079 --> 00:18:52.720 team, right fringe level free agents and no disrespect obviously to to Uncle Jeff 274 00:18:52.759 --> 00:18:56.440 Green and even as Smith Thomas Ryan, who they got as a midseason trade 275 00:18:56.440 --> 00:19:00.039 because he was unhappy with the Lakers, but they didn't even play him in 276 00:19:00.079 --> 00:19:03.240 the playoffs. DeAndre Jordan who saw some spot in minutes in the playoffs when 277 00:19:03.279 --> 00:19:06.759 Yo was injured. Reggie Jackson who they got off the scrap people as well 278 00:19:06.799 --> 00:19:10.079 too. Those are the free agents. The core of this team is all 279 00:19:10.119 --> 00:19:12.359 signed for a least at least another two or three years, and Yokich has 280 00:19:12.359 --> 00:19:15.119 signed till twenty seven, twenty eight. So this Nuggas team, as you 281 00:19:15.160 --> 00:19:18.680 alluded to, is not going anywhere. And they made a very smart trade 282 00:19:18.880 --> 00:19:22.319 right I think, right before Game five of the NBA Finals, to acquire 283 00:19:22.359 --> 00:19:26.119 a couple of draft picks from the OKC thunder Um. So, you know, 284 00:19:26.160 --> 00:19:27.240 not necessarily this year, but even for next year, they'll be able 285 00:19:27.240 --> 00:19:32.599 to have controlled talent, you know, within a paid range in essence that 286 00:19:32.599 --> 00:19:36.119 they can contentially potentially can afford, because they're going to have roughly about one 287 00:19:36.160 --> 00:19:38.480 hundred and seventy million dollars and committed salary next year. But when you're the 288 00:19:38.559 --> 00:19:42.480 NBA champions as they are, you probably do just bring everything back and tweak 289 00:19:42.480 --> 00:19:48.200 around the edges. Bruce Brown um I forgot is a has a player option. 290 00:19:48.559 --> 00:19:51.640 He's opting out. He's an MBA champion, so he's opting out, 291 00:19:52.079 --> 00:19:56.119 and there's a very good chance they could lose him because you know he's signed 292 00:19:56.759 --> 00:20:00.559 Christians after seeing Christian Brown. Look, I'm not saying that that Bruce that 293 00:20:00.559 --> 00:20:04.880 that. I'm not saying that Brown and Christian Brown are you know like that 294 00:20:04.960 --> 00:20:07.839 he get it. Yeah, but it's kind of like what the Warriors did 295 00:20:07.920 --> 00:20:12.839 when you know, when they when they basically went and got DiVincenzo, you 296 00:20:12.880 --> 00:20:17.200 know what I mean, They thought that they were able to kind of supplement, 297 00:20:17.680 --> 00:20:21.000 and I think that Nuggets were gonna would be okay with something like that. 298 00:20:21.039 --> 00:20:22.119 I would I would venture to think, though, if you're Brown, 299 00:20:22.480 --> 00:20:27.519 maybe you should consider staying because of the way things work for you. It's 300 00:20:27.559 --> 00:20:30.839 just so hard to assume that some other team is going to be able to 301 00:20:30.839 --> 00:20:33.799 put you in the best position. Not about winning the championship, I'm saying 302 00:20:33.920 --> 00:20:37.640 you look at the way Brown was able to play so freely coming off as 303 00:20:37.640 --> 00:20:41.759 a second unit. Never had that even playing with the Brooklyn Nets. How 304 00:20:41.759 --> 00:20:45.480 many other teams you're gonna do that unless you're assuming that he's going to actually 305 00:20:45.559 --> 00:20:48.440 be a starter. And I'm not completely sold on that aspect of it yet. 306 00:20:48.440 --> 00:20:49.759 His shifting still has to be mean and I don't know what the market 307 00:20:49.839 --> 00:20:52.440 is. I mean, if he's making he'd make roughly seven next year or 308 00:20:52.440 --> 00:20:56.599 six point eight to be exact, if he opts out. I mean, 309 00:20:56.720 --> 00:20:59.920 came Denver bringing back maybe two for twenty you know, give him ten million 310 00:21:00.200 --> 00:21:02.519 year? Is that? Does that keep him happy? You know in the 311 00:21:02.599 --> 00:21:06.000 role that he that he was in. You know, he's he's a defensive 312 00:21:06.000 --> 00:21:08.279 minded guy. You know, gives you some offense here and there. But 313 00:21:08.319 --> 00:21:11.559 then you're playing with the championship level team. What the difference that's going to 314 00:21:11.640 --> 00:21:15.079 happen here now is where we've talked about and every other Optopsy report, where 315 00:21:15.119 --> 00:21:18.680 teams are they're a quote unquote cap strapped and they're not going to have a 316 00:21:18.680 --> 00:21:22.279 whole lot of flexibility. Denver Is like said, they're the NBA champion, 317 00:21:22.359 --> 00:21:23.839 and then more players are going to be willing to kind of come and play 318 00:21:23.880 --> 00:21:27.920 for them for the minimum or the biannual, the mid level, whatever is 319 00:21:27.920 --> 00:21:32.359 available you know, to them, like they will have those options now because 320 00:21:32.359 --> 00:21:34.519 your Kitchen is clearly the best player in the world. He makes the entire 321 00:21:34.599 --> 00:21:37.599 of his teammates better. He doesn't score if he scores fifty, doesn't care 322 00:21:37.599 --> 00:21:41.359 if he scores fifty. Year scores sixteen, and that is something that's amazing 323 00:21:41.359 --> 00:21:45.279 to play with. And now you have an amazing NBA champion level coach and 324 00:21:45.400 --> 00:21:48.559 Michael Malone as well too. I think, you know they're not going to 325 00:21:48.640 --> 00:21:52.440 have a problem filling out the supplemental parts that are basically as you alluded to, 326 00:21:52.519 --> 00:21:56.680 maybe nine through twelve on their roster, because the top seven, top 327 00:21:56.680 --> 00:21:59.160 eight guys or again, they're all more or less coming back, with exception 328 00:21:59.200 --> 00:22:02.000 of Brown, Bruce Brown, and I think they'll probably figure out a way 329 00:22:02.000 --> 00:22:03.960 to get something done. Let me say, let me tell you this though, 330 00:22:03.000 --> 00:22:07.160 so and this is you know how I was saying that Jannis is the 331 00:22:07.200 --> 00:22:11.559 most dominant basketball player, Like I kept saying that because I think the word 332 00:22:11.599 --> 00:22:15.319 dominant does not equate being the best player in basketball, because there are other 333 00:22:15.480 --> 00:22:19.240 there are other numbers that you would probably use, or other other metrics or 334 00:22:19.279 --> 00:22:22.799 tangibles that you will use in order to kind of put that stamp or that 335 00:22:22.839 --> 00:22:27.599 connotation out there. But you said it correctly. Yokis is the best player 336 00:22:27.599 --> 00:22:33.119 in basketball, and it's because of the things you alluded to. But there's 337 00:22:33.160 --> 00:22:37.160 one other thing that really sticks out at me when I think about Yoki and 338 00:22:37.279 --> 00:22:41.920 this is scary. Yokis is so damn good right now. Bro. And 339 00:22:41.960 --> 00:22:44.880 I don't know if people were paying attention to this during the NBA Finals, 340 00:22:44.880 --> 00:22:49.400 but I really want people to really understand the lethalness of Yoki Nicola Yoki. 341 00:22:49.880 --> 00:22:56.559 During many situations when the Nuggets called for and needed a basket, shooting a 342 00:22:56.720 --> 00:23:00.319 three, Yoki was probably spot on. I would be very interested from a 343 00:23:00.440 --> 00:23:06.960 statistic standpoint how many first three point shots Yokis was hitting through the course of 344 00:23:07.000 --> 00:23:11.359 this playoff run. It is amazing to me to see that at any moment, 345 00:23:11.799 --> 00:23:15.279 if he really wants to put his mind to scoring the basketball, he 346 00:23:15.359 --> 00:23:18.920 can damn will do whatever he wants to, whenever he wants to, wherever 347 00:23:18.960 --> 00:23:22.920 he wants to. And you can't say that about even the Janisata Tukompo's. 348 00:23:22.160 --> 00:23:26.200 You can't say that about the Jimmy Butlers. You can't even say that about 349 00:23:26.240 --> 00:23:30.240 the Jason Tatums and the Joel Embiids. They haven't gotten to that point yet. 350 00:23:30.519 --> 00:23:33.519 They gotta find a rhythm, they gotta find something. You gotta give 351 00:23:33.559 --> 00:23:37.200 them a quarter or two before you begin to see that. Yokis can wait 352 00:23:37.240 --> 00:23:41.640 until the second half, like five minutes into the third quarter and then explode 353 00:23:41.640 --> 00:23:44.519 for twenty five points. But when you look at the stat sheet, he 354 00:23:44.559 --> 00:23:47.759 winds up with forty. You know what I'm saying, Like that, you 355 00:23:47.799 --> 00:23:51.079 can't speak to that shaw, You can't find a metric for that. That's 356 00:23:51.160 --> 00:23:56.000 confidence, and more importantly, that's you knowing how you shoot the basketball. 357 00:23:56.039 --> 00:23:59.119 That's you knowing how you can get your buckets. And for him to be 358 00:23:59.160 --> 00:24:00.960 able to do that, man, and I just find that I'm saying, 359 00:24:00.960 --> 00:24:03.880 maybe I'm just putting them up, you know, such a high praise. 360 00:24:04.079 --> 00:24:08.640 But I have never seen anything like that ever in our generation. When I 361 00:24:08.680 --> 00:24:12.759 look at basketball scores, I've never seen a guy basically just say I'm gonna 362 00:24:12.799 --> 00:24:17.359 wait, wait, wait, and then when I explode, I'm so unstoppable 363 00:24:17.559 --> 00:24:21.119 that even the other teams can't even account for. How does be able to 364 00:24:21.119 --> 00:24:23.960 stop you simply because you know that you can score whenever you feel like it. 365 00:24:25.279 --> 00:24:27.240 That that's doesn't heard of, that's unheard of. Yeah, well, 366 00:24:27.279 --> 00:24:32.160 I mean the touches it it's remarkable, it really is. And why and 367 00:24:32.240 --> 00:24:34.000 a lot of people want to get into the comparisons right now, And you 368 00:24:34.039 --> 00:24:37.200 know, is he the best European player ever? And Dirk and blah blah 369 00:24:37.200 --> 00:24:40.920 blah blah. I mean that's that's neither here or there. At the end 370 00:24:40.920 --> 00:24:44.400 of the day. I think, you know, the Will twin is up 371 00:24:44.440 --> 00:24:48.039 there with anybody right now. And I think it as we talked about it, 372 00:24:48.039 --> 00:24:52.319 even in the beginning segment, when he decided that this game was not 373 00:24:52.400 --> 00:24:56.400 going the way that they wanted it to go, he was like, give 374 00:24:56.440 --> 00:25:00.160 me that fintball. I'm gonna go down here and I'm gonna punish whoever you 375 00:25:00.200 --> 00:25:04.359 put on me guard wing big. It doesn't matter. This is what's going 376 00:25:04.400 --> 00:25:07.640 to happen, you know. So to shoot as efficiently as he did in 377 00:25:07.640 --> 00:25:11.559 a closed out game, and just as he has throughout the entirety of the 378 00:25:11.599 --> 00:25:15.319 playoffs with that soft touch, being able to shoot from range, you know, 379 00:25:15.359 --> 00:25:18.559 if if it's there for him, but operating in the post, I 380 00:25:18.559 --> 00:25:21.720 think that to me and and to you maybe into some degrees too, it's 381 00:25:21.720 --> 00:25:23.720 like we come from you know that era, you know where it's like, 382 00:25:23.759 --> 00:25:26.319 hey, it's get your ass on the block. You're a big and he 383 00:25:26.359 --> 00:25:30.440 has the ability to do whatever he wants to do. But the fact that 384 00:25:30.480 --> 00:25:34.440 he didn't just camp out when his teams needed buckets and hope the ball went 385 00:25:34.480 --> 00:25:37.640 in. Was as he fired away from three, he was like no, 386 00:25:37.680 --> 00:25:41.559 and he didn't get him going in the paint exactly. He didn't even get 387 00:25:41.599 --> 00:25:45.480 the out. He didn't bail out the heat either. Right like most guys 388 00:25:45.480 --> 00:25:49.279 like Joel Embiid as dominant as an MVP like season he had, he bailed 389 00:25:49.279 --> 00:25:52.519 out the Celtics, he's been He's bailed out other teams because he selled us 390 00:25:52.519 --> 00:25:55.759 for jump shots. And you know, we could talk about the fact that 391 00:25:55.799 --> 00:25:57.680 he was injured, not one hundred percent, I'm not talking about that. 392 00:25:57.799 --> 00:26:02.440 What I'm talking about is you recognizing that you're gonna go to the place that 393 00:26:02.519 --> 00:26:06.279 you want to go to, and you are going to establish your presence at 394 00:26:06.319 --> 00:26:08.799 that space, and you're gonna force that other team to stop you in whatever 395 00:26:08.839 --> 00:26:12.359 it is that you're attempting to do, which really should be for his size 396 00:26:14.400 --> 00:26:18.000 forward North South, and Yoki showed that. I mean, do you see 397 00:26:18.000 --> 00:26:19.799 the first step that he was showing once he stopped, you know, before 398 00:26:19.880 --> 00:26:23.279 he was getting he basically pulled the oaky doke on the heat. He basically, 399 00:26:23.720 --> 00:26:26.440 I'm gonna hand it off. I'm gonna do the two man game. 400 00:26:26.440 --> 00:26:32.440 With Jamal Murray and then many situations the moment that Gabe or Lowry or any 401 00:26:32.440 --> 00:26:34.759 of those small guys were assumed that he's gonna hand it off again because he 402 00:26:34.799 --> 00:26:38.359 simply just wants to get Murray the ball. He basically went to that first 403 00:26:38.359 --> 00:26:42.559 step and already had those guys really on his shoulders, like they literally had 404 00:26:42.559 --> 00:26:45.960 to climb on top of him. And I think they, I think they 405 00:26:45.000 --> 00:26:48.640 intentionally wanted to foul him to just stop it. And it's amazing to me 406 00:26:48.680 --> 00:26:52.079 because the referees are sitting there just being like, oh, should we call 407 00:26:52.119 --> 00:26:56.240 the whistle, No, let's let the guys play, when they're clearly clipping 408 00:26:56.319 --> 00:27:00.519 the dude. They're straight up clipping this man and calling fouls like amazing, 409 00:27:00.759 --> 00:27:04.039 amazing. It's still getting back and still getting buckets. Still, yeah, 410 00:27:04.079 --> 00:27:07.759 and that's the I guess that's the you know, the penalty if you will, 411 00:27:07.759 --> 00:27:11.440 if you're big and have that level of physicality. But his footwork is 412 00:27:11.440 --> 00:27:14.000 amazing, you know. And if you're watching him on offense, it's not 413 00:27:14.039 --> 00:27:18.880 just him standing at one location. There are times they're literally literally moving him. 414 00:27:18.920 --> 00:27:22.960 In action. He's setting a down screen and cutting to the baseline popping 415 00:27:22.079 --> 00:27:25.680 back up from a from a pin down to catch the ball in the elbow 416 00:27:25.720 --> 00:27:27.880 and then dribbling and taking it to the rack and then dishing it all for 417 00:27:27.960 --> 00:27:32.359 fingers, finishing with the finger roll. The guy's phenomenal. And I think 418 00:27:32.359 --> 00:27:36.319 when you have that at your at your you know it's disposure if you will, 419 00:27:36.680 --> 00:27:40.680 it's just it's it's something that I think Michael Malone and this Nuggets team, 420 00:27:40.720 --> 00:27:45.440 they know how to play him. He knows how to play and he 421 00:27:45.480 --> 00:27:49.440 doesn't try to do the things that he wouldn't necessarily be good at um or 422 00:27:49.799 --> 00:27:53.799 force things, and I think that's what's so amazing. Of all the superstars 423 00:27:53.799 --> 00:27:57.400 in our game, he's probably the one who forced his shots to the least. 424 00:27:57.400 --> 00:28:02.319 And this is not to not anybody in any capacity, but we know 425 00:28:02.400 --> 00:28:04.640 Curry takes wild shots. We know Dan Lillard takes wild shots. Where the 426 00:28:04.640 --> 00:28:08.200 case it be, the wild shots so you've seen Yoki take is probably because 427 00:28:08.200 --> 00:28:11.279 the shot hawk is winding down in the ball is in his hand and he 428 00:28:11.279 --> 00:28:14.720 has no choice. Everything else is usually measured, And I think that's just 429 00:28:14.920 --> 00:28:18.599 that's phenomenal for the way that they are systematic and almost all in almost every 430 00:28:18.640 --> 00:28:22.079 single approach and offensive possession. And that's why they right up to get this 431 00:28:22.119 --> 00:28:25.559 thing done. And I think that's why they should be in this conversation for 432 00:28:25.559 --> 00:28:27.079 a long time. Absolutely, So one quick thing and then I want to 433 00:28:27.119 --> 00:28:37.759 pivot to our boy Mpjum for there is one caveat and and I wonder if 434 00:28:37.759 --> 00:28:41.559 it's probably the only thing that you may wonder now that he's an NBA champion, 435 00:28:44.279 --> 00:28:45.640 where do we look at the hunger level? Right? Like, I 436 00:28:45.680 --> 00:28:48.799 believe that he really is a hunger Like I think he doesn't want to say 437 00:28:48.799 --> 00:28:51.559 it. He doesn't want to make it, you know, make it. 438 00:28:51.640 --> 00:28:52.960 So I think there's a level of humble and sin to him. But I 439 00:28:53.000 --> 00:28:56.240 do believe that he wants to be among one of the greatest players that ever 440 00:28:56.240 --> 00:28:57.559 played this game of basketball. I think that he feels like that is the 441 00:28:57.599 --> 00:29:00.200 best way for him to pay homage of what the game is giving him and 442 00:29:00.359 --> 00:29:04.000 his family. Right, But I think that for him. One of the 443 00:29:04.000 --> 00:29:07.920 things that I've noticed at times is that Yokis does has a little bit of 444 00:29:07.960 --> 00:29:12.480 that Lasa fair lasadaisicalness, not in the way that we talk about when we 445 00:29:12.519 --> 00:29:17.559 see Steph Curry with his recklessness of the basketball. There's a there's a risk 446 00:29:17.640 --> 00:29:21.000 reward factor when you see as great a player as Yokis is in the way 447 00:29:21.000 --> 00:29:23.599 that he does distribute the ball and make his other team better and stuff like 448 00:29:23.599 --> 00:29:26.920 that. You saw that in an early outset that when you play against really 449 00:29:26.960 --> 00:29:30.200 good, hungry defensive teams that really want it, like the Miami Heat, 450 00:29:30.559 --> 00:29:37.200 they will take advantage of Yokich's you know, smoothness sort of speak and force 451 00:29:37.319 --> 00:29:40.680 him to actually, hey, I need you to play a little bit more 452 00:29:40.680 --> 00:29:42.960 physical and listen. It's been a while, right, Like, how long 453 00:29:44.039 --> 00:29:47.480 has it been since we'll be talking about Yokis being a dirty player? Right? 454 00:29:47.880 --> 00:29:49.400 I mean it's so far removed from that, which is how much it 455 00:29:49.440 --> 00:29:52.920 speaks to how his game is evolved. So I just wanted to allude to 456 00:29:52.960 --> 00:29:56.240 that, that part that it's really stopping Yokis. I feel like at this 457 00:29:56.279 --> 00:30:00.480 moment in time, when you look into totality of his work in the last 458 00:30:00.559 --> 00:30:03.160 three years, two MVPs, now, a championship and an NBA at Finals 459 00:30:03.279 --> 00:30:07.319 MVP, only Yokis is stopping Yokis, and it will be frightening to see 460 00:30:07.359 --> 00:30:11.960 that if he focuses more on even showing that level of aggress like marrying the 461 00:30:12.039 --> 00:30:15.640 two right, you know what I'm saying. It's almost like super saying. 462 00:30:17.279 --> 00:30:21.319 You know, it could really be a problem for the Western Conference and NBA 463 00:30:21.400 --> 00:30:23.720 in kind if we see another level to Yo Kitchen that way, all right, 464 00:30:23.759 --> 00:30:30.759 real quick, Shaw, Michael Porter Jr. I'm apologizing to you because 465 00:30:30.799 --> 00:30:33.640 I was straight up land based in this kid, maybe because I was pushing 466 00:30:33.680 --> 00:30:37.720 so hard to believe that he really was. He really could have been such 467 00:30:37.759 --> 00:30:42.359 a dynamic force in this series. This series was primed for him to be 468 00:30:42.880 --> 00:30:48.160 the secret weapons sort of speak, if the heat figured out a way to 469 00:30:48.200 --> 00:30:51.799 neutralize Yo Kitchen Murray, and we just did not see that. And I 470 00:30:51.839 --> 00:30:56.559 do believe that while he did show really well tonight, he actually did the 471 00:30:56.640 --> 00:31:00.160 things that my god, he could basically doing his sleep the whole time in 472 00:31:00.200 --> 00:31:03.960 the series and refused to do it. It just raises a bigger point to 473 00:31:03.000 --> 00:31:08.160 me, Shaw, what will him winning this NBA Championship do and where do 474 00:31:08.240 --> 00:31:12.160 you see him fitting in when we talk about the Denver Nuggets moving forward, 475 00:31:12.440 --> 00:31:18.400 Because listen, this is all about Yokitchen Murray. Aaron Gordon knows his role. 476 00:31:18.480 --> 00:31:21.319 He ain't spoiling the gravy train. He's good. He knows where he 477 00:31:21.319 --> 00:31:22.960 can find himself. It's the reason why I said look for him to be 478 00:31:23.039 --> 00:31:26.359 a defensive Player of the Year candidate. But where does this put Michael Porter 479 00:31:26.480 --> 00:31:32.839 Junior in the structure of things when we talk about the Denver Nuggets. I'm 480 00:31:32.880 --> 00:31:36.880 pretty sure Michael Porter Junior understands so what it is now and after winning an 481 00:31:36.960 --> 00:31:40.480 NBA championship, if that doesn't become even more crystal clear to you, then 482 00:31:40.759 --> 00:31:44.599 he's doing it wrong. I don't I don't see a world where Porter Junior 483 00:31:44.680 --> 00:31:47.279 now comes out here and says, you know what, you know, Hey, 484 00:31:47.279 --> 00:31:49.240 I gotta be average in twenty twenty two a game. I think we're 485 00:31:49.279 --> 00:31:53.240 past that because he got into the league so young, had all the injuries. 486 00:31:53.279 --> 00:31:56.599 He tried that route, tried to kind of force feed his offense, 487 00:31:57.400 --> 00:32:01.240 and it just an and go right for him. So where he's at right 488 00:32:01.240 --> 00:32:06.440 now and that you know, roughly seventeen to eighteen nineteen points per game range, 489 00:32:06.720 --> 00:32:09.640 you know, five six rebounds, and they can play stellar defense. 490 00:32:09.640 --> 00:32:13.000 But he is a guy who can get hot at times, you know, 491 00:32:13.039 --> 00:32:15.240 and yeah, he can go off for thirty at night. If your kitchen 492 00:32:15.319 --> 00:32:17.200 is like, Hey, you know what, go ahead do he so to 493 00:32:17.240 --> 00:32:21.440 speak, I'm going to take the night off. But his role now was 494 00:32:21.559 --> 00:32:25.359 clearly defined as the number three guy behind this um in this pecking order, 495 00:32:25.519 --> 00:32:29.079 and you know, and Narin Gordon's not even that far behind them even when 496 00:32:29.079 --> 00:32:31.119 it comes to points per game. But I think Porter Junior just has to 497 00:32:31.160 --> 00:32:36.039 continue to develop his defense, stay healthy. For the most part, he's 498 00:32:36.039 --> 00:32:37.880 already got his bag. He's signed to I think till twenty six, twenty 499 00:32:37.880 --> 00:32:40.839 seven, he's gonna be making thirty eight forty million dollars a year. Like 500 00:32:40.960 --> 00:32:46.000 there's there's he has nothing to complain about nothing, So go out here, 501 00:32:46.160 --> 00:32:51.319 continue to hoop, play within the system that is designed for you to be 502 00:32:51.400 --> 00:32:53.440 a high level contributor. Because it's not like he's coming off the bench or 503 00:32:53.440 --> 00:32:57.720 anything like that. He's still giving them again, seventeen a game and playing, 504 00:32:57.720 --> 00:33:00.279 you know, thirty plus minutes a night, right out Michael Boord Jr. 505 00:33:00.799 --> 00:33:05.119 And ride this gravy chain that is Nicola Yokis for as long as you 506 00:33:05.200 --> 00:33:07.279 possibly can, you know, until the wheels fall off here. And I 507 00:33:07.279 --> 00:33:10.200 think that's the route for him and everybody else. When the Nuggets roster. 508 00:33:10.240 --> 00:33:13.880 To be quiet honest, there's nobody who needs to be trying to do more 509 00:33:14.200 --> 00:33:16.839 than what they're currently doing right now. Who do you think is more expendable 510 00:33:17.000 --> 00:33:21.880 on their roster? Like if we're looking at this this this team, and 511 00:33:21.960 --> 00:33:25.960 we're saying, you know what, this role or this position could certainly get 512 00:33:25.960 --> 00:33:30.200 an upgrade. You know, do we see maybe you know, moving transitioning 513 00:33:30.240 --> 00:33:34.480 from contapious called Will Pope not saying that he's still ain't got nothing left in 514 00:33:34.519 --> 00:33:36.920 the tank. I think he's solid, But I'm just curious. You know, 515 00:33:37.119 --> 00:33:42.920 you run everything back and everything is supplemental parts. Yeah, I think 516 00:33:43.799 --> 00:33:46.240 for the most part, they run everything back. If there's one situation that 517 00:33:46.400 --> 00:33:49.680 maybe you look at, is all right, do you feel like you have 518 00:33:49.799 --> 00:33:52.759 enough at the backup point guard situation? Bruce Brown was the facto backup point 519 00:33:52.799 --> 00:33:57.839 guard and he wasn't really contributing and distributing for people. You know, that's 520 00:33:57.920 --> 00:34:00.559 that's just Yoki's job. That's just what it is. So you know, 521 00:34:00.559 --> 00:34:04.359 when you have somebody at that level, you just don't need the traditional ball 522 00:34:04.400 --> 00:34:07.199 handler so to speak. But if I was to tinker with this, maybe 523 00:34:07.239 --> 00:34:10.639 you're looking to get like a true backup guard to maybe take some of that 524 00:34:10.679 --> 00:34:14.599 pressure even off of your kitch at times, you know, in those young 525 00:34:14.840 --> 00:34:17.079 in the in those non joker minutes, and you can run Murray more at 526 00:34:17.079 --> 00:34:20.880 the two and get him, get him some off ball stuff and get somebody 527 00:34:20.880 --> 00:34:23.760 who can dribble and penetrating kick out. But I mean that's nitpicking, you 528 00:34:23.800 --> 00:34:27.760 know. I think they have enough three point shooting. They clearly have enough 529 00:34:27.760 --> 00:34:30.360 defense, They clearly have enough size. You know. Maybe the other thing 530 00:34:30.360 --> 00:34:34.079 too, was do you get another backup, you know, for for for 531 00:34:34.159 --> 00:34:37.639 your kitch. But they just don't play those guys in the in the playoffs. 532 00:34:37.679 --> 00:34:39.280 You just you need them to eat up regular season minutes. So Thomas 533 00:34:39.280 --> 00:34:43.239 Bryan's DeAndre Jordan's of the world. Hey, they did what they need to 534 00:34:43.239 --> 00:34:45.119 do in the regular season, and then we didn't see them again, you 535 00:34:45.159 --> 00:34:47.239 know, you know, once once it turned you know, mid April. 536 00:34:47.760 --> 00:34:51.679 But those are the things that I think the Nuggets can do, and I 537 00:34:51.679 --> 00:34:54.960 don't think they'll have a hard time finding guys who will be happy to contribute 538 00:34:54.960 --> 00:34:59.480 and play within the system that is now again NBA championship levels. All right, 539 00:34:59.519 --> 00:35:04.159 Well, let's and there's no eulogy needed for a team that is hoisting 540 00:35:04.199 --> 00:35:09.039 the championship trophy, the first championship trophy in the organization's history. Congratulations to 541 00:35:09.079 --> 00:35:14.679 the Denver Nuggets once again for showing us the way. And uh hey, 542 00:35:15.039 --> 00:35:19.679 beware the rest of the NBA because this roster is stacked, locked and loaded, 543 00:35:19.880 --> 00:35:22.280 and they're gonna be a problem, you know, come next to this 544 00:35:22.360 --> 00:35:25.280 upcoming next season and stuff. So you know, beware. You know what 545 00:35:25.280 --> 00:35:30.440 I'm saying. We left We left the we left the tombs, We left 546 00:35:30.440 --> 00:35:34.239 it to what you would call it. We left the grave open because nug 547 00:35:34.559 --> 00:35:37.119 ain't there's nothing to put there. 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Callie Warrenshaw Baseline NBA podcasts, 570 00:37:12.079 --> 00:37:15.840 and now on our autopsy report, we're putting the Miami Heat on the Slabshaw. 571 00:37:15.519 --> 00:37:19.480 What an impressive run by team who came in as the eighth seed, 572 00:37:19.920 --> 00:37:22.000 made it all the way to the NBA Finals, push this to five games. 573 00:37:22.400 --> 00:37:25.760 Unfortunately, they just didn't have enough gas in the tank, and you 574 00:37:25.840 --> 00:37:30.360 basically saw that, you know, a line from the fact that they just 575 00:37:30.400 --> 00:37:34.719 really didn't have the best matchups. Either way, a lot of good things 576 00:37:34.719 --> 00:37:37.960 still came from this because if you really think about this, you got guys, 577 00:37:38.000 --> 00:37:43.400 man, that have a much higher learning curve to improve and be better 578 00:37:43.440 --> 00:37:46.679 at playing this game of basketball and an NBA level, which I think is 579 00:37:47.039 --> 00:37:50.960 unheard of. You know what I'm saying, because a lot of times most 580 00:37:51.000 --> 00:37:52.719 teams are looking at saying, well, we're gonna upgrade and we're gonna throw 581 00:37:52.760 --> 00:37:57.119 a whole bunch of money at all of these free agents. And Miami could 582 00:37:57.199 --> 00:38:00.119 go that role, man, But listen, there were some guys that I 583 00:38:00.159 --> 00:38:04.960 really just think they just didn't. They don't have enough teeth in the game 584 00:38:05.079 --> 00:38:07.760 for them to actually show whether or not they have the capabilities to stay. 585 00:38:07.880 --> 00:38:10.800 And I don't think this season and I don't even think this run against the 586 00:38:10.800 --> 00:38:15.519 Denver Nuggets should mitigate that. I think it should actually show more so that 587 00:38:15.639 --> 00:38:20.639 there's opportunities if this team sticks together, that they can basically do what the 588 00:38:20.679 --> 00:38:23.920 Denver Nuggets were able to achieve, as long as you've got your guys like 589 00:38:24.039 --> 00:38:28.719 Butler and Bama to Bayu, who finally gotten an identity about how they're going 590 00:38:28.760 --> 00:38:31.239 to have this team run for them to be able to execute what they were 591 00:38:31.280 --> 00:38:37.119 showing us that they're capable of executing. Miami's in a in an awkward spot 592 00:38:37.159 --> 00:38:42.840 because a lot of a lot of people are going to doubt them coming into 593 00:38:42.920 --> 00:38:45.199 next year. You know, they had their offense was putrid. It was 594 00:38:45.199 --> 00:38:50.639 twenty fifth overall coming into the playoffs, right, they still played good defense, 595 00:38:51.559 --> 00:38:53.960 but they were two minutes away from being completely eliminated, you know, 596 00:38:54.000 --> 00:38:58.679 in the playing tournament, you know, against the Chicago Bulls. They ultimately 597 00:38:58.880 --> 00:39:01.760 obviously turned it around, got all the way to the NBA Finals, dispatching 598 00:39:02.079 --> 00:39:07.159 two of the top three teams in the Eastern Conference, specifically in Milwaukee and 599 00:39:07.239 --> 00:39:10.440 Boston, and having a game shooting against the Denver Nuggets. So there's nothing 600 00:39:10.480 --> 00:39:16.440 to to pooh poo on their season in any capacity. However, I am 601 00:39:16.440 --> 00:39:21.760 concerned. I think with what we saw offensively, you know, throughout the 602 00:39:21.800 --> 00:39:24.239 course of the regular season, and I think they were able to outwill people 603 00:39:24.320 --> 00:39:29.639 in the playoffs. And I just don't know how sustainable that is year over 604 00:39:29.760 --> 00:39:32.880 year over year if the talent isn't up to a certain level, and they're 605 00:39:32.880 --> 00:39:37.440 going to have some decisions to make, you know, player option for Victor 606 00:39:37.440 --> 00:39:40.679 Oladipo, I don't really know how much he's a part of the overall plans. 607 00:39:42.000 --> 00:39:45.400 Tyler Hero's extension kicks in next year. They got to figure out if 608 00:39:45.400 --> 00:39:47.719 they're going to pay Gabe Vincent and Max Duce. Those are two guys who 609 00:39:47.760 --> 00:39:52.159 were monumental for them. They were trying to get rid of Duncan Robinson, 610 00:39:52.199 --> 00:39:54.039 they were trying to get rid of Kyle Lowry. They ended up needing both 611 00:39:54.039 --> 00:39:58.440 of those guys, and they contributed throughout the course of the playoff run. 612 00:39:58.920 --> 00:40:01.280 So where what's the mix, like, what what is what is the land? 613 00:40:01.320 --> 00:40:05.320 And do you just lean on Jimmy and Bam? You know, BAM's 614 00:40:05.320 --> 00:40:07.280 only twenty five years old and there's still room for him to grow. I 615 00:40:07.280 --> 00:40:13.079 think as a NBA Star. You just sat there and said, a hold 616 00:40:13.119 --> 00:40:16.119 on, you just sat there and said before when we were saying, yeah, 617 00:40:16.159 --> 00:40:20.599 I've decided I just don't like his game. Are you talking about the 618 00:40:20.679 --> 00:40:23.119 game that he showed in the in in in you know this finals, or 619 00:40:23.159 --> 00:40:28.599 you're talking about his overall game like you're just his overall game to me, 620 00:40:28.679 --> 00:40:32.760 Like he's he's clearly valuable in the system and what what Miami needs to do. 621 00:40:34.039 --> 00:40:37.159 He's a lynchpin for what they're going to be in the future. I 622 00:40:37.199 --> 00:40:39.880 personally am out on him. I realize more he's he's not dirty in any 623 00:40:39.880 --> 00:40:45.079 capacity, but he moves pretty much on every single screen screen. Uh, 624 00:40:45.119 --> 00:40:47.440 a little bit of a flopper here and there, But I think that's maybe 625 00:40:47.480 --> 00:40:50.880 some of the Miami you know, the Kyle Lowrys and all of them. 626 00:40:50.920 --> 00:40:52.800 Now you see that with Gay Vincent, you definitely see that. Jimmy Butler 627 00:40:53.039 --> 00:40:55.360 like. But I think at the end of the day, and this is 628 00:40:55.400 --> 00:41:00.000 going to sound way more negative than I mean it to be, but I 629 00:41:00.039 --> 00:41:04.519 think at some point, when you don't have the requisite talent, you just 630 00:41:04.599 --> 00:41:08.239 kind of have to do any and everything. And the Miame Heat are not 631 00:41:08.280 --> 00:41:12.559 a dirty basketball team. They're not dirty, that's just not what they're about. 632 00:41:13.079 --> 00:41:15.559 But they're not above flopping, they're not above embellishing in a way to 633 00:41:15.679 --> 00:41:20.440 try to overcome some of the disadvantages they may have. You know, if 634 00:41:20.480 --> 00:41:22.400 they're going to be just if if the talent on the other side, it's 635 00:41:22.440 --> 00:41:27.760 just better, especially if another talent can another team can match their proverbial will. 636 00:41:28.000 --> 00:41:30.760 And I think that's where miame shines is that they just have that that 637 00:41:30.840 --> 00:41:34.000 will to win, that never say die. That's obviously led by Jimmy Butler 638 00:41:34.039 --> 00:41:37.159 and Eric Spolsho specifically, But for me with mam he showed signs in this 639 00:41:37.280 --> 00:41:42.159 playoffs where he was more aggressive and you just need him to be that all 640 00:41:42.320 --> 00:41:45.800 the time, and that is not something that we have seen. And then 641 00:41:45.960 --> 00:41:49.239 the MIAMEI faithful are like, hey, why aren't you a twenty five twenty 642 00:41:49.239 --> 00:41:52.480 seven point per game guy, Like you could be that? But he, 643 00:41:52.639 --> 00:41:54.320 you know, he does all the other little things and the intangibles that helps 644 00:41:54.360 --> 00:41:58.719 miame be as successful as they as they are in most parts. So they've 645 00:41:58.719 --> 00:42:00.960 got to figure out exactually what that looks like. Um, but I'm concerned 646 00:42:00.960 --> 00:42:05.199 about what exactly they're going to do with the guys who they were really really 647 00:42:05.239 --> 00:42:07.800 trying to get rid of. And I don't know if this playoff run kind 648 00:42:07.800 --> 00:42:09.480 of kombay y'alld all of that and brought it all back together. And now 649 00:42:09.519 --> 00:42:13.679 all is forgiven on the Duncan Robinson situation, all as were given on n 650 00:42:13.719 --> 00:42:15.840 Kyle Liry situation, and if it is, I don't necessarily know that it 651 00:42:15.880 --> 00:42:22.760 should be. Um So you bring away too many any points. Let me 652 00:42:22.880 --> 00:42:24.239 I want to ask this question first, and then maybe I'll be able to 653 00:42:24.239 --> 00:42:27.599 try to revisit some of the things you just said a moment ago. Let 654 00:42:27.639 --> 00:42:31.119 me ask you this question, given what you've now seen the body of work 655 00:42:31.119 --> 00:42:37.000 of Bam bay to Bayou, do you think BAM pairs well with Jimmy Butler. 656 00:42:37.320 --> 00:42:42.360 The reason why I asked this question is because now the terminology that's going 657 00:42:42.440 --> 00:42:45.679 to be thrown out there, when you see what Yokich and Murray is doing, 658 00:42:45.920 --> 00:42:50.440 when you've seen when Draymond Green and Steph Curry get together, when you 659 00:42:50.519 --> 00:42:59.119 see um U Job Morant and Steven Adams right like, there's there's a two 660 00:42:59.159 --> 00:43:02.039 man game, right, Arden and Embid, Right, there's a two man 661 00:43:02.079 --> 00:43:07.360 game. Why do you think it's so difficult for Bama to buy you to 662 00:43:07.480 --> 00:43:10.559 have his two man right like Butler and Bama to buy you have been together 663 00:43:10.599 --> 00:43:15.119 now for what three years? Why is it difficult for them to establish a 664 00:43:15.199 --> 00:43:21.920 two man game with their skill sets? Um, I don't know that it's 665 00:43:21.960 --> 00:43:25.039 not established. You know, it's just not dominant. And you know there's 666 00:43:25.119 --> 00:43:30.639 again there's some deficiencies that are there. Bam still in undersize big despite having 667 00:43:30.039 --> 00:43:34.159 the speed advantage in a lot of situations, he doesn't always have the size 668 00:43:34.199 --> 00:43:37.679 advantage there, you know, And is his jumper rangy enough? I think, 669 00:43:37.719 --> 00:43:42.280 you know, sixteen to eighteen, maybe even twenty, you feel pretty 670 00:43:42.360 --> 00:43:45.039 confident. But he also misses a lot of chippies as he gets to the 671 00:43:45.079 --> 00:43:47.239 lane, and we saw that throughout the course of the playoffs, like he 672 00:43:47.280 --> 00:43:51.920 misses a lot of layups, and then Jimmy, maybe it's just the time, 673 00:43:51.920 --> 00:43:54.239 it's what we see with him over time, he just obviously wears down. 674 00:43:54.840 --> 00:43:59.440 So again, I don't think the two main game is ineffective, but 675 00:43:59.559 --> 00:44:01.119 I just I don't think it's the same two man game that you can go 676 00:44:01.159 --> 00:44:05.239 to with maybe some of the other matchup seal. I think what I'm alluding 677 00:44:05.280 --> 00:44:08.800 to Shaws. I don't feel like the Heat or maybe spol Straw leans on 678 00:44:08.880 --> 00:44:15.000 that more so, I guess in a way where I'm going with this. 679 00:44:15.199 --> 00:44:20.800 And again it's just me. I feel like they are stretching Bam thin because 680 00:44:20.880 --> 00:44:23.920 look at the look at their supplemental parts around him sort of speak. There's 681 00:44:23.960 --> 00:44:28.599 no real definitive way that you can describe the Miami Heat, Like they want 682 00:44:28.599 --> 00:44:31.800 to shoot, but they can't shoot. They want to play a two man 683 00:44:31.840 --> 00:44:35.719 game, but they don't lean on the two man game, So it's kind 684 00:44:35.719 --> 00:44:37.719 of like they're playing both sides of how their offense. Really, it's like 685 00:44:37.719 --> 00:44:42.159 almost like they're trying to still feel it out sort of speak whatever works, 686 00:44:42.360 --> 00:44:44.480 you know, they'll go with it. And I'm just saying, when you 687 00:44:44.519 --> 00:44:47.039 got a player like bam I to buy you going into the offseason, when 688 00:44:47.039 --> 00:44:50.519 you're saying what are the things I need to improve on? What are the 689 00:44:50.599 --> 00:44:52.159 things I need to fix? And to your point, it's just like, 690 00:44:52.440 --> 00:44:55.440 you know, why don't we see band become more aggressive? Well, part 691 00:44:55.480 --> 00:44:59.559 of my question is is like, what what do you define as aggressiveness? 692 00:44:59.599 --> 00:45:01.519 Right, because to your point, you probably would be like I can live 693 00:45:01.559 --> 00:45:06.920 with him missing fifteen sixteen chippies if he's doing it consistently to be aggressive going 694 00:45:06.960 --> 00:45:09.119 to the basket, but when he bails out and you know, he's like 695 00:45:09.199 --> 00:45:13.920 letting other guys eat and he's not being aggressive. And then suddenly now you're 696 00:45:13.920 --> 00:45:15.800 expecting him but going out there and start throwing those shots up and stuff like 697 00:45:15.840 --> 00:45:19.159 that, and he's missing them. Well, you gotta remember the guys. 698 00:45:19.480 --> 00:45:22.440 He's never put himself in a position where there's a rhythm to him, you 699 00:45:22.480 --> 00:45:24.000 know what I'm saying. And I think this is the first time that I'm 700 00:45:24.000 --> 00:45:29.400 actually questioning how the Miami Heat want to really utilize Bam out to buy you 701 00:45:29.800 --> 00:45:34.280 because of the fact that you have all of these other parts around him that 702 00:45:34.400 --> 00:45:37.480 don't seem to fit, you know, with consistency to what I think he 703 00:45:37.559 --> 00:45:39.800 even wants to try to do. And I'm not saying it has to be 704 00:45:39.800 --> 00:45:43.960 built around him. I'm just saying, look at all of these pieces that 705 00:45:44.039 --> 00:45:46.280 Bam works with. I don't think that he's ever been comfortable with every single 706 00:45:46.280 --> 00:45:51.360 piece that's been on the floor with him since this version of the Heat has 707 00:45:51.360 --> 00:45:53.400 been out, you know what I mean, That's just me. No, 708 00:45:53.760 --> 00:45:58.360 I mean again, we may just disagree there because I think how they utilize 709 00:45:58.400 --> 00:46:01.039 him, you know, at the nail and setting screens, doing dribble handoffs, 710 00:46:01.360 --> 00:46:06.159 kicking out to the corners and to the wings is ultimately how they want 711 00:46:06.159 --> 00:46:07.880 to play, you know, especially when their shooters are hot. And that 712 00:46:08.000 --> 00:46:10.159 makes a lot of a lot of sense, you know, for him. 713 00:46:10.199 --> 00:46:14.639 He is a capable passer, and he's you know, has a decent basketball 714 00:46:14.719 --> 00:46:16.800 like you. And obviously he's the tenacious defender of well too, and that's 715 00:46:16.840 --> 00:46:21.079 just kind of like in his system. I'd be interested to see and I 716 00:46:21.079 --> 00:46:22.800 don't think, you know, I can't see it now Bam ever, not 717 00:46:22.880 --> 00:46:27.159 being in a uniform, but I'd be interested to see how he played and 718 00:46:27.199 --> 00:46:30.119 how he looked in another uniform, in another system. Would we see him 719 00:46:30.119 --> 00:46:34.599 be a little bit different. He's still averaged twenty and nine a game, 720 00:46:35.079 --> 00:46:39.000 so he's not devoid of offensive talent. He's not and I'm not produced and 721 00:46:39.039 --> 00:46:43.079 I'm not saying I know that's not what you're saying. I just I think, 722 00:46:43.159 --> 00:46:45.679 but there's a there's still a sense. And I've say, you know, 723 00:46:45.800 --> 00:46:46.920 live where I live, and a long time people like, hey, 724 00:46:47.039 --> 00:46:52.400 why can't Bam be this there's always that next level I think of offensive capability 725 00:46:52.440 --> 00:46:55.360 that they want to see because they see it in spurts like we saw in 726 00:46:55.480 --> 00:47:00.119 even in Game five in the first half eighteen points and then he scored what 727 00:47:00.280 --> 00:47:02.360 three, four or four points in the second half, and that's because maybe 728 00:47:02.360 --> 00:47:05.760 he runs out of gas. But he started missing a lot of layups as 729 00:47:05.800 --> 00:47:08.519 well too. Um, he's just not dominant in that way. He can 730 00:47:08.559 --> 00:47:12.880 be dominant and stretches, but he's not a he's not in a he's not 731 00:47:12.920 --> 00:47:16.280 an NBA elite player. He's not a super stright and and at some point, 732 00:47:16.519 --> 00:47:20.760 but let me ask you this question, like, what's your take on 733 00:47:20.760 --> 00:47:24.000 on Jimmy Butler, because listen, we're a long way away from the himmy 734 00:47:24.079 --> 00:47:27.719 stuff that we were seeing, you know, in the first couple of rounds 735 00:47:27.719 --> 00:47:31.679 of the playoffs, and he definitely trailed off, not that he wasn't good, 736 00:47:32.280 --> 00:47:36.559 but he trailed off from what we saw, you know, especially in 737 00:47:36.559 --> 00:47:40.000 that Milwaukee series, and that probably just was unsustainable to kind of see throughout 738 00:47:40.000 --> 00:47:44.559 the course. Um, but he's thirty three, he's gonna be making roughly 739 00:47:44.599 --> 00:47:46.719 fifty million dollars by the end of his contract. You know what do you 740 00:47:46.760 --> 00:47:50.400 think the status is in Miami's not going to trade him, Like we're not 741 00:47:50.480 --> 00:47:52.280 talking anything crazy like that, But how do you what do you think is 742 00:47:52.280 --> 00:47:55.679 the next step of evolution for him or is there? And what happens with 743 00:47:55.679 --> 00:47:59.519 his Miami Heat team overall. Well, so two things that really stick out 744 00:47:59.519 --> 00:48:04.239 to me with with Jimmy Butler is clear that if you put enough length on 745 00:48:04.320 --> 00:48:09.119 him, he's going to have difficulty being able to create and make shots the 746 00:48:09.119 --> 00:48:13.559 way that he typically does. I find it interesting Shaw, And I guess 747 00:48:13.559 --> 00:48:16.239 maybe it comes full circle when you see, you know, the final possession 748 00:48:16.440 --> 00:48:21.000 that Jimmy Butler had to give the yacht, the Heat an opportunity to maybe 749 00:48:21.079 --> 00:48:23.079 even take the lead. I think it was they think they were down by 750 00:48:23.119 --> 00:48:27.880 one or no, no, they were down they were yeah, they were 751 00:48:27.920 --> 00:48:31.639 down by one at the time, and he dribbles down, he goes way 752 00:48:31.639 --> 00:48:37.639 deep into paint. The Nuggets don't switch and clearly I think it was Gordon. 753 00:48:37.960 --> 00:48:40.159 It was Gordon or somebody that was on him, and he just he 754 00:48:40.280 --> 00:48:45.280 basically tried to pump fake he did, and the Nuggets they knew that this 755 00:48:45.400 --> 00:48:46.480 was coming, They knew that this was what was going to happen. They 756 00:48:46.480 --> 00:48:50.519 didn't bite and what did he do? He tried to you know, he 757 00:48:50.599 --> 00:48:52.119 tried to back out and then he wind up turning the ball over the table. 758 00:48:52.159 --> 00:48:59.079 Call Will Pope reads the passing lane and intercepts the pass. Hey enough, 759 00:48:59.079 --> 00:49:00.639 teams see what you do and if this is what your go to is, 760 00:49:00.760 --> 00:49:05.079 somebody's gonna read you out. And I think this is what you know, 761 00:49:05.159 --> 00:49:07.320 Jimmy Butler is gonna have to go home and do his homework on He 762 00:49:07.400 --> 00:49:13.239 has to figure out a way to be able to find ways to score, 763 00:49:13.599 --> 00:49:15.880 to score, to basketball against guys that are going to be taller than him, 764 00:49:15.920 --> 00:49:20.559 lengthier than him, you know what I'm saying. And whether that's developing 765 00:49:20.599 --> 00:49:23.639 a new you know, offensive repertoire sort to speak. We've seen guys at 766 00:49:23.679 --> 00:49:25.880 his age be able to do that. The Kobe Bryant of the world, 767 00:49:25.880 --> 00:49:30.320 of Lebron James of the world. That's gonna have to be his evolution. 768 00:49:30.639 --> 00:49:32.440 He can't go back to the same thing that he's been doing over the last 769 00:49:32.440 --> 00:49:37.679 couple of years, because you're not gonna have the advantage of playing you know, 770 00:49:37.760 --> 00:49:42.079 the the Jason Jalen Browns and the Jason Tatums who are basically kind of 771 00:49:42.119 --> 00:49:44.639 your size, your girth, you know what I'm saying, And you're gonna 772 00:49:44.639 --> 00:49:46.880 rely on your savvyness. You're gonna have to shoot over some of the best 773 00:49:46.880 --> 00:49:51.119 of the best, which in the game is becoming lengthier, more versatile, 774 00:49:51.159 --> 00:49:53.719 athletic wing like three, four or five type players. And to me, 775 00:49:53.800 --> 00:49:58.880 that's where I think Jimmy Butler need Himmy Butler needs to be at Well, 776 00:49:58.960 --> 00:50:00.960 let's take it back to the tal Hero situation. And I know we don't 777 00:50:00.960 --> 00:50:06.039 live in fantasy land here, so this week, but Tyler Hero healthy throughout 778 00:50:06.039 --> 00:50:08.440 the course of those playoffs, do we get the same outcome, you know, 779 00:50:08.440 --> 00:50:12.159 with Miami making it all the way to the NBA Finals, And do 780 00:50:12.199 --> 00:50:15.039 they have a better chance against the Denver Nuggets. Oh, I shouldn't say 781 00:50:15.079 --> 00:50:17.159 that, because I clearly they have a better chance. Could they have won 782 00:50:17.280 --> 00:50:22.079 the NBA Finals Tyler Herro healthy throughout the course of the throughout the course of 783 00:50:22.119 --> 00:50:25.360 the playoffs, they would have just they would just have proven me, you 784 00:50:25.400 --> 00:50:29.400 know, correct in our predictions that we're saying the Nuggets would win in six. 785 00:50:29.519 --> 00:50:31.199 I don't think that Tyler like Tyler Hero is a solid player. Don't 786 00:50:31.199 --> 00:50:35.320 get me wrong. I Am not taking anything away from that, but Tyler 787 00:50:35.440 --> 00:50:38.880 Herod was not going to be the only thing that the Miami Heat would have 788 00:50:38.880 --> 00:50:42.920 needed to be able to beat this Nuggets team. Listen, we didn't even 789 00:50:42.920 --> 00:50:45.440 get into all this. I don't have to because I think it's all if 790 00:50:45.440 --> 00:50:49.760 you people were watching this NBA Finals, the Denver Nuggets really were the more 791 00:50:49.760 --> 00:50:52.679 dominant basketball team. And if you watch this last game, this Game five, 792 00:50:53.079 --> 00:50:59.119 the Denver Nuggets did everything in the they possibly could to draw this thing 793 00:50:59.119 --> 00:51:01.239 out longer than it needed to be. They I mean, they clearly looked 794 00:51:01.239 --> 00:51:06.440 like a team that was so nervous about not effing it up. They gave 795 00:51:06.480 --> 00:51:10.039 the Miami Heat so many chances. I've just seen too many opportunities with the 796 00:51:10.079 --> 00:51:14.639 Denver Nuggets could have blown the Miami Heat out of the water in this series. 797 00:51:15.159 --> 00:51:19.000 And sometimes they play not to lose, and it happens. This is 798 00:51:19.000 --> 00:51:21.400 your first NBA Finals, you know what I'm saying. But it does not 799 00:51:21.519 --> 00:51:24.519 mitigate the fact that the Denver Nuggets would just a far superior team and they 800 00:51:24.559 --> 00:51:28.559 had bodies that they could have thrown out at Tyler hero We don't know what 801 00:51:28.639 --> 00:51:30.519 version of Tyler hero would have been out there on that basketball court. So 802 00:51:30.679 --> 00:51:35.360 I wasn't going to rest on the idea that Tyler Hero would have changed and 803 00:51:35.480 --> 00:51:38.280 things dynamically. Maybe would have aided Jimmy Butler a couple of times, but 804 00:51:38.360 --> 00:51:40.519 I don't think he would have been that much of a difference maker. To 805 00:51:40.519 --> 00:51:44.599 stop with them Denver Nuggets are throwing at them, Yeah, I agree with 806 00:51:44.599 --> 00:51:45.840 you one one thousand percent, you know, and just kind of throwing it 807 00:51:46.000 --> 00:51:49.599 out there in general. So kind of back to the matter at the hand, 808 00:51:49.920 --> 00:51:53.679 gave Vincent, Max Drus big names free agents from Miami that is, 809 00:51:53.800 --> 00:51:57.639 you know, maybe not necessarily on the open market, but guys who they 810 00:51:57.639 --> 00:52:00.400 are probably going to want to retain. But at what number of those guys 811 00:52:00.440 --> 00:52:06.679 made just under two million dollars is here? And I mean, yeah, 812 00:52:06.760 --> 00:52:08.880 I just I know there's more money for them out there, So I don't 813 00:52:08.920 --> 00:52:14.760 I don't know how Miami brings both of those guys back unless they move off 814 00:52:14.760 --> 00:52:16.360 of Frank and Robinson. Can I throw something at you real quick? Shaw, 815 00:52:16.800 --> 00:52:21.519 This is where we really see the savvy of pat Riley, right. 816 00:52:22.079 --> 00:52:24.639 I think pat Riley is gonna is going to force them to make it make 817 00:52:24.679 --> 00:52:30.239 a choice hey, we he'll basically and I don't think he's afraid to say 818 00:52:30.239 --> 00:52:31.400 this. I mean, we picked you up off of the off of the 819 00:52:31.480 --> 00:52:35.480 sidewalk, off of the causeway. You know what I'm saying. We gave 820 00:52:35.519 --> 00:52:37.159 you a chance, and look where we took you, Look where our culture 821 00:52:37.199 --> 00:52:39.960 took you. You want to go and see you can do that somewhere else, 822 00:52:42.119 --> 00:52:44.719 have at it, you know what I'm saying. I don't think he's 823 00:52:44.760 --> 00:52:46.320 afraid to let them dudes go because he's like, we can find we can 824 00:52:46.360 --> 00:52:51.039 find other Max Chuses, we can find other game Vincent's and guess what, 825 00:52:51.280 --> 00:52:53.119 He's proved it, you know what I'm saying. So I would think that 826 00:52:53.199 --> 00:52:57.239 if you are the max Chuses and gave Vincent of the world, be very 827 00:52:57.280 --> 00:53:02.159 hilarious about what you're prioritizing for yourself and your NBA career, because I think 828 00:53:02.239 --> 00:53:06.760 you and I can say without without doubt, Shaw, there have been plenty 829 00:53:06.760 --> 00:53:10.280 of dudes who went and collected the bag and then have been basically bagging their 830 00:53:10.320 --> 00:53:15.559 ass right on the at the end of the bench twelve on the roster chart. 831 00:53:15.880 --> 00:53:19.239 Coaches got no use for them, can't find them anywhere in the rotation 832 00:53:19.280 --> 00:53:22.079 it doesn't play them. They're getting paid, but after that money drives up, 833 00:53:22.320 --> 00:53:24.960 you will not see them playing in the NBA again. You better go 834 00:53:25.039 --> 00:53:31.159 check them on NBA TV playing in the G League. I think for those 835 00:53:31.159 --> 00:53:35.480 guys, you know, mid twenties, so they're not necessarily old, but 836 00:53:35.639 --> 00:53:39.199 you know they haven't gotten a legitimate contract yet, and Miami can go into 837 00:53:39.199 --> 00:53:43.480 attacks to retain its own guys. I just don't know what that number would 838 00:53:43.519 --> 00:53:46.639 ultimately look like, and I think there'll be some bidders out there. Strus 839 00:53:46.719 --> 00:53:52.239 didn't have a great NBA finals. Do you need Struss if Hero and Duncan 840 00:53:52.320 --> 00:53:57.360 Robinson are healthy, I mean, they were there all year and Streuss ended 841 00:53:57.440 --> 00:54:00.559 up becoming the starter. So I don't know's it's a really, really a 842 00:54:00.559 --> 00:54:05.000 tough situation, I think for Miami, and do you kind of run off 843 00:54:05.000 --> 00:54:07.320 of the high off of this amazing run, or do you make some harder 844 00:54:07.320 --> 00:54:13.039 decisions here now fiscally understanding that you've got to rebuild them again. The team 845 00:54:13.079 --> 00:54:16.000 was terrible offensively. All the guys shot terribly from the three point line this 846 00:54:16.039 --> 00:54:19.960 season and got better in the playoffs. For the most part, they're terrible 847 00:54:20.000 --> 00:54:22.960 rebounding team. They're one of the worst teams and block shots as well too, 848 00:54:22.159 --> 00:54:24.639 So those are all things they need to figure out a way to address 849 00:54:24.679 --> 00:54:29.559 in some capacity. And there's not somebody on the roster who's going to ultimately 850 00:54:29.559 --> 00:54:30.960 just kind of become that. Even a guy like Ohma, You're seven, 851 00:54:30.960 --> 00:54:34.840 who they don't even play. You know, his contract is up and he's 852 00:54:34.880 --> 00:54:38.400 at least a legitimate six ten seven foot type big, but you know they're 853 00:54:38.440 --> 00:54:43.360 not really concerned about playing him. Kevin Love free agent or are they're going 854 00:54:43.400 --> 00:54:45.920 to bring him back. So to me, there's a lot of questions with 855 00:54:45.960 --> 00:54:52.079 this Miami team despite this amazing run. Unfortunately, I can't help but think 856 00:54:52.119 --> 00:54:53.920 it was just that it was a run, and I don't know that we 857 00:54:53.960 --> 00:54:58.760 can rubber stamp them back into the top of the Eastern Conference and making the 858 00:54:58.800 --> 00:55:01.360 same type of run nixt are all things being considered that I think they could 859 00:55:01.480 --> 00:55:05.039 trust some stuff, but I don't know where exactly that's going to Absolutely, 860 00:55:05.039 --> 00:55:07.960 but that would be a mistake on anyone's part to assume that that's what we're 861 00:55:07.000 --> 00:55:12.800 talking about here, because let's not you know, I've skate Like the truth 862 00:55:12.920 --> 00:55:15.480 is, they were not the best team almost like they weren't even the best 863 00:55:15.480 --> 00:55:21.159 team out of their own division, right, but they they they found a 864 00:55:21.159 --> 00:55:24.239 way. Unto your point, the effort, the fact that they played as 865 00:55:24.320 --> 00:55:30.960 a team and they saved the best version of basketball to get them through the 866 00:55:30.000 --> 00:55:35.079 playoffs for that run. Okay, And that's something you just can't teach. 867 00:55:35.360 --> 00:55:38.320 And sometimes that's it's a hard road to be able to put that together unless 868 00:55:38.320 --> 00:55:42.800 you have the right guys who are willing to commit and sacrifice for those things, 869 00:55:42.800 --> 00:55:45.440 which is again, look look at how many teams have been trying to 870 00:55:45.480 --> 00:55:47.559 do that via through free agency, through trades, right look at the Brooklyn 871 00:55:47.559 --> 00:55:52.639 Nets, look at the Philadelphia seventy sixers and all those guys. So what 872 00:55:52.679 --> 00:55:55.400 I'm just alluding to, Shaw is is more to the point that there is 873 00:55:55.519 --> 00:56:01.000 room of opportunity for these guys to actually take stop in knowing that it took 874 00:56:01.039 --> 00:56:07.400 a Denver Nuggets team that was that talented to best you, and that you 875 00:56:07.480 --> 00:56:12.440 have an opportunity for yourself to improve on the things that you highlighted. You're 876 00:56:12.519 --> 00:56:15.840 not good offensively, you don't shoot the basketball well, you don't rebound the 877 00:56:15.840 --> 00:56:21.519 basketball well. These are things that you can actually take this off season and 878 00:56:21.639 --> 00:56:24.559 work on and improve on. It'll be funny because to your point, if 879 00:56:24.599 --> 00:56:29.360 some of these guys are interested more about the bag, you know what I'm 880 00:56:29.400 --> 00:56:34.559 saying, because of what they what they could bring to another team. Now 881 00:56:34.599 --> 00:56:38.320 you're talking about you. You're changing how you're gonna fit for what that team 882 00:56:38.360 --> 00:56:42.079 is gonna do, not for what you could be doing for the Miami Heat. 883 00:56:42.440 --> 00:56:44.960 So it'll be interesting. Shaw, Like a lot of times, we 884 00:56:45.079 --> 00:56:47.400 look more so on the decision making of the organizations about what type of players 885 00:56:47.440 --> 00:56:51.840 they are looking to put together, you know, on the roster, especially 886 00:56:51.840 --> 00:56:54.079 if you already have your core guys like Butler and how to buy you right 887 00:56:54.119 --> 00:56:59.199 and in Hero. But my thing is is that you know, sometimes you 888 00:56:59.239 --> 00:57:01.639 also got to look as a player, what is it that you are actually 889 00:57:01.639 --> 00:57:06.679 looking for, especially after you've made a run like this. Well, I'm 890 00:57:06.679 --> 00:57:07.960 gonna again. I know we're running short on time, and this is kind 891 00:57:08.000 --> 00:57:12.360 of maybe a bang or way to kind of go out, so to speak. 892 00:57:12.400 --> 00:57:15.679 But there is the stuff, you know. And I texted you the 893 00:57:15.679 --> 00:57:17.559 other day like I'm listening, I'm a little tired of I'm getting owner Bro. 894 00:57:17.760 --> 00:57:22.199 I definitely am. I'm tired of him here and dame talk and hint 895 00:57:22.239 --> 00:57:29.199 at things, but Lillard is a name that he I guess there could be 896 00:57:29.280 --> 00:57:34.440 a slimns a slim twinkling the eye possibility. Pat Riley is going to try 897 00:57:34.440 --> 00:57:37.039 to do something to improve this roster. I think he's smart enough to know 898 00:57:37.199 --> 00:57:42.360 that things broke right. They weren't lucky, but things broke right for them 899 00:57:42.519 --> 00:57:45.239 in a way, and they got the matchups that they were able to dominate 900 00:57:45.280 --> 00:57:47.400 really kind of the Eastern Conference. Do they go out and get a guy 901 00:57:47.440 --> 00:57:52.519 like Lillard? I don't know, but I think we know pat Riley is 902 00:57:52.559 --> 00:57:55.280 going to big game hunt and that probably comes at the expense of the guys 903 00:57:55.320 --> 00:58:00.280 I mentioned before, Lowry Tyler, Hero maybe even or Duncan Robinson, because 904 00:58:00.280 --> 00:58:04.639 those are bigger contracts that can be cobbled together to try to get, you 905 00:58:04.639 --> 00:58:07.280 know, another star to pair alongside Jimmy and ba blam out of bio. 906 00:58:07.480 --> 00:58:10.800 All right, well listen, so let me ask you, what's your faith 907 00:58:10.800 --> 00:58:15.960 me to run the heat that they that they find themselves making making the playoffs 908 00:58:15.960 --> 00:58:22.760 for next year. I think they're gonna they're just too witty and strong. 909 00:58:23.440 --> 00:58:28.400 I like how us first, Yeah, they're too strong well to not make 910 00:58:28.400 --> 00:58:30.519 the playoffs, so they'll be in the playoffs own capacity. And I thought 911 00:58:30.519 --> 00:58:34.159 they were going to be in at a four or five seed this year as 912 00:58:34.320 --> 00:58:37.079 as as it stood, so I could see that potentially being their fate next 913 00:58:37.119 --> 00:58:40.599 year. Um, but again, I just don't think things are going to 914 00:58:40.679 --> 00:58:43.800 break right for them in the way that they did this year that they can 915 00:58:43.840 --> 00:58:46.119 make another run to the NBA Finals without significant upgrades. All right, well, 916 00:58:46.199 --> 00:58:51.000 fair enough, man, fair enough once again, y'all another awesome show 917 00:58:51.119 --> 00:58:53.559 put together. Man, And this has been a fabulous season. Um. 918 00:58:53.599 --> 00:58:57.039 I know we got a lot of stuff on the on the on the pipe 919 00:58:57.840 --> 00:59:00.039 come, you know, for the for the off season, but man, 920 00:59:00.079 --> 00:59:06.039 this is just a really really enjoyable season. You know, the baseline, 921 00:59:06.079 --> 00:59:07.880 been doing it for ten years and then and it's it's been great to be 922 00:59:07.920 --> 00:59:12.840 able for us to you know, cover and discuss another NBA Finals. And 923 00:59:13.199 --> 00:59:15.559 I like the twist. I like the fact that it wound up being a 924 00:59:15.559 --> 00:59:17.360 team who's never had an opportunity to hoist that trophy, to be able to 925 00:59:17.360 --> 00:59:22.519 do that this year. It's what it's all about keeping the level of interest 926 00:59:22.599 --> 00:59:24.519 kind of going throughout the NBA. So for our fans, listeners, thank 927 00:59:24.559 --> 00:59:28.960 you so much for rocking with us this NBA season. Obviously we're still going 928 00:59:29.000 --> 00:59:30.679 to be here during the offseason, drift Playoff, Summer League, the whole 929 00:59:30.760 --> 00:59:35.039 nine. But this has been a wild one. To see a mid to 930 00:59:35.119 --> 00:59:37.840 small market team like the dun Nugs finally get their first NBA championship is an 931 00:59:37.840 --> 00:59:42.960 amazing situation you just again. For me as an NBA fan, I like 932 00:59:43.039 --> 00:59:45.239 to see that type of situation and allowing other people to kind of get a 933 00:59:45.280 --> 00:59:49.119 bite at the apple, as you'd like to say. Man, So shout 934 00:59:49.119 --> 00:59:51.679 out to the city of Denver, shout to their fans, and obviously to 935 00:59:51.719 --> 00:59:53.440 that great organization who's able to kind of get it done here into twenty two 936 00:59:53.519 --> 00:59:57.800 twenty three seas Absolutely once again, we like to thank you and yours for 937 00:59:57.920 --> 01:00:00.840 tuning in with us. Keep us live. Do you know how we do? 938 01:00:00.960 --> 01:00:04.480 Baby for the baseline, Kylie Warrenshaw, we appreciate you guys, you 939 01:00:04.519 --> 01:00:06.920 know we do. We'll catch up with you next time.