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What is going on? Clippers fans? Welcome to season two, episode nine

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of Clips and Dip. We are
live on YouTube YouTube dot com Slash at

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Clippers podcast. Come hang out.
Yeah, I'm Chuck Mockler, joined by

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William about Tyke. Adam Osland is
in Sacramento. He's in a cryo chamber.

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He's doing something somewhere in NorCal,
somewhere in Norkal who knows NorCal as

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far as I'm concerned. Starts at
Burbank, you know what I'm talking about.

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Today. We are joined by friend
of the show, Carl Tart.

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Carl, how the hell are you, buddy? Fellow swamp Kings right here?

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Yeah? Wait? Which one of
them? All? Right? Which

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players are we? Because there's I
don't want to be Riley Cooper if we're

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doing swamp King, Well, Adam
Osland is Riley Cooper because he's not He's

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not here to defend himself. Yeah, perfect, So he's Riley Cooper.

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I'm gonna be I'm gonna be Brandon
spikes me because who was just like the

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thing that's making me the most mad
about this documentary is how crazy these workouts

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and stuff were and they just having
this like well, if you couldn't make

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it, you saw. But Brandon
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very good and I don't like doing
this. This is soft and good.

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Yeah, yeah, I'm I'm gonna
be Brandon Spikes. I'll be Percy Harving

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because he smoked weed. All right. Yeah, maybe we got may William

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Tebow, Yeah, will Wills Tebo, but without without the hommies, what

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murder Today we're gonna be talking.
We got some questions about James James Harden.

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We got some questions about kind of
like what the hell is gonna happen

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next year? We're talking clippers betting
odds since Adam isn't here, so we

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can talk about that kind of stuff. But Carl just kind of getting back

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to this James Harden saga for those
people who aren't informed. Uh, He's

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find a hundred thousand dollars. Do
we think that that's a bad precedent to

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set? Yeah, Like that's been
the first time this whole year that I've

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been like, all right, maybe
not him, like maybe maybe not him,

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maybe not I I was still love
him. But if we can't get

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it, if we can't get him
for the low, for you know what

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we all want Yeah, if we
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I think I think it's okay for
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right, all right, we'll roll
what we got. Yeah, I think

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that's very legit. I like James
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get him. I wish we could
get him for the low. But there's

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there's stuff going on right now that
I'm like, do we want these problems

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in our organization? An organization that
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the league right like, And that's
and we're getting into a stare down situation

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because James Harden is stubborn. Darryl
moore is very stubborn. So this,

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like the fact that Darryl Moorey is
like I'm unbothered, I'm still gonna bring

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him into training camp makes it worse
for the Clippers too, Yeah, because

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like, just let him be away
from training camp. Yeah, don't have

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him doing this whatever he's gonna do
at training camp. Like, I think

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he should take that money and play
overseas. What is the can y'all explain

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that he can't? I read?
So there's a thing with the with I

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think with the way that it's worded
in, like NBA contracts, he can't

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sign a contract like his team if
he opts out like just doesn't play and

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it's like I want to play overseas. The way that it's worded in,

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I think it's the CBA or something
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CBA. So it was essentially,
if you're an expiring with one year left

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on your deal, if you try
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team that you're supposed to be playing
for can like they have the power to

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release or not release you for any
team. It's not bound by league,

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so like EuroLeague could be like no, man, like, yeah, he

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can't go to China, like people
are saying where he would make a ton

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of money, but like they the
seventy six ers, there's no way they

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would let him do that. Wow, there's gonna be a shit you know

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it already is. I mean there
was one. I feel like he could

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go to Abu Dhabi. I feel
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we don't care about the collective bartening
here, come over here, he's

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he's a million dollars. He's got
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that right, Yeah, he hasn't, Yeah he got. I don't know.

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I wouldn't do it. Those contracts. Did you see that soccer contract

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that I think Naymar signed. He
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basically a hotel. Like he gets
like an extra five hundred thousand dollars per

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social media post about the team,
or some crazy thing like if they start

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a basketball league's over for the MPa. So yeah, we got a question

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about the hardened thing. Carl.
Do you think Harden's a good fit?

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This is from militant mind for or
should the Clippers try and go after Lavine

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or Derosin Those are the two names
that have kind of been popping up.

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Both of those guys play the same
position as Kawhi Land and the Paul George

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Well. I think in this there's
this dream that some Clippers fans have have

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that Kawai's moving down to the four. Yeah, sure, which would be

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cool. Yeah that's cool. That's
cool as hill. But no, like

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James is the better fit. I
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Rust and James together. I agree, and like, I love I like

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both of these players. I mean
DeRozan, I mean, certainly some some

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flaws in both of these players games. I think either one of them would

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make the season a little bit more
electrifying. But I don't think it does

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anything to like actually try to win
something, which is like what this team

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has tried to go all in on. I think that, like I feel

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like in the two on three era, right, the thing has been everybody

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wants a point guard. You know, it's media outlets saying we need a

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point guard, it's the players on
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I just think to try this,
this experiment or whatever you want to

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call it to the ultimate test,
Like you have to get the most point

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guard of point guards, and I
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which if other teams are getting in
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that kind of goes away. But
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like here's what you wanted, here's
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and like if that doesn't work out, then it's time to move on.

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Man. Like I feel like you
could look yourself in the mirror and say,

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hey, we did everything to make
this work, Like one of you

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is gonna be traded, I promise
you we tried exactly. I promise you.

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I promise you, we tried.
I mean, yeah, it is,

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you can't. We have to be
realistic. Everybody has to be realistic.

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I think, because we get beat
up on so much, we fall

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into the trap of listening to all
the noise. It's so hard to tune

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out the noise, and the noise
says, the noise is never giving us

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any credit. Like sometimes I'll lark. I'll give you guys a little bit.

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Is sometimes I'll lark going on TikTok
and oh yeah, these people will,

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these people will. Is that is
that big Blad? Hey, what

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up, big lad, Clipper Blad? If you're not seeing us, uh,

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we're streaming right now. Clipper Ladd
is in the chat. I hope

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he's doing well. I can show
comments. Oh hell yeah. So I'll

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get on. I'll get on there
and lurk sometime. And and it feels

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like every like live that pops up
in my algorithm is people doing basketball takes

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of course on TikTok on TikTok.
Yeah, and so I'll go in there.

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You can go live on TikTok yeah. Oh yeah. It makes a

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lot of money too. That's why
it's just it's it's all just you know,

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are you showing feet on TikTok during
your time off with the strike?

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Uh No, I'm not showing feed
on TikTok. I I'm lurking on TikTok.

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I'm burner. I'm burner and on
TikTok as well. Hell yeah,

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although it's although anytime I share a
video, you can actually you can see

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what. Yeah, I know what, we know what your burning is.

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That's that's fine. On there,
you can the burn on TikTok is because

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I don't have any content. But
they I'll get in there and just like

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give give the clippers a little bit
of love, and they'll always just go

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insane. Oh they ain't done nothing, ain't done nothing. I'm like,

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why are why do we have the
most pressure on us with it? Like

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with the dames of the media too, Yeah, because of the media picks

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us and then things don't go well, then they say what were we thinking?

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And then the next year they say, but what if it worked this

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time? Yeah? But also they
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the Phoenix Suns failed just as much
as we do. Yes, they are

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forgetting that because Devin Booker was so
good that then they're like, oh,

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well, all right, yeah,
they just let them slide. It'll be

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better next year. And then next
year coming they're not better, Well,

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you know they're gonna have a full
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Because I don't have them winning.
Let next year either. I still

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don't think that roster can beat Denver. So yeah, I don't either.

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Remains to be saying, yeah,
they they're the ones that have something approved.

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But I will say the thing that
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continue to make big swing trades.
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I mean really sense the two on
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if you want to count count Marcus
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lot of yeah, outside of the
big in terms of a big acquisition,

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in terms of even trying to build
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as that big three. But that
wasn't Yeah, that's another conversation. Bleacher

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Report, the Laker media institutions just
put out their like top five big threes

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in the league, and some of
them like they made uh the Bucks big

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three honorable mention because it's like what
Jannis Chris and Drew. Okay, honorable

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mention. Honorable mention they gave They
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A trio we've never seen played again, You've never seen play them, but

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this was the one that really got
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Yeah, Alicans, c J.
Brandon and Zion. Now, Zion has

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had a lot of hate in the
media. Zion's going through a lot.

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So I'm not gonna sit here and
say that we get more ship than him.

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But we're all pro Zion. We're
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he how did they get in there
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next one that really, you know
it really that big three, that big

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three, that Pelicans Big three was
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Yeah, so I can a little
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it. At least we've seen them
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also saw our Big three play and
they were very good as well. But

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get to your grievances, Carl,
Sorry, what grinded your gears? Well,

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that that the fact that we weren't
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It was only like five of them. But the fact that we weren't in

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there. These were the top five. And the fact that the Lakers Lebron

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James, Anthony Davis. Okay,
and just guess before I dude, and

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this is what pisses me off.
Austin Reeves is a very good basketball player.

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Sure, no hate on that big
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India. That's what I will say. I always say that every time somebody

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says I'm hating on it, because
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time somebody says I hate and I'll
say, he absolutely deserves to be a

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in the NBA and getting prime minutes, and he's playing well, and he's

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he's playing fine. The way the
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that he Man. If it wasn't
for uh, Anthony Awards and Austin Reeves,

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this team will be owing. I
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Yeah, Anthony Awards is right,
but still a really good team over

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there. Ala Burton, you got
come on, man. So it's being

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ridiculous. Is the Clipper is kau
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Though? I think so. I
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mean just as much as Anthony Davison. I think it's more of a I

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think it's more than at I think
that's a big I think that's a better

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big thing than the Lakers. I
think you're right. I think that's that's

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a fair thing to say. For
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I'm not I'm not following the thing
today. It's time for me to

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air my grievances. I'm sick of
Kauai being the only player in the league

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being called a if healthy given the
if healthy qualification, as if he didn't

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have a huge injury. Right,
they just think he's resting. They don't

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say he's not playing because he's hurt. Yeah, they I'm sick of hearing

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Kauai if healthy, if healthy,
if healthy, but not to grind your

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gears anymore. That is the Clippers
biggest hurdle. Of course, it is

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if healthy. But I'm trying to
everybody everybody is if healthy. Sure,

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that's that's the will Upti school of
thought, because we can't we try and

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not say health when it's like,
what's the biggest thing every teams to every

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team look at the Bucks the year
like the year after they won the championship,

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Like no Chris Middleton. They got
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it. Yeah, health matters for
every single team. Yeah, do you

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have any other grievances you need to
air? Carl Tasketball wives. We don't

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have all day. We don't have
all day. You guys got a show

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to run. Someone mentioned that if
the Clippers trade for James Harden, we

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then have PG, Kauai and James
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which is something I somehow, you
know, it's been a long Offsea's been

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very hot. I haven't hadn't really
put that together. Does that make you

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worried a little bit? Because like, also, Carl, do you think

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that the Clippers are going to give
PG the full max? Kawhi? I

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think they'll give the full max.
But do you think they're gonna give offer

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PG a full I think it's four
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not be a man of the new
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truly don't know. No, that's
fair, dude, I don't know.

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It's a better answer than a bad
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I I don't know if I want
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want I'd love to, but what
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What is like? Who can we
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guys with to bring in like we
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knows that now that we gotta have
button seats in this new stadium. Uh

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would who is? Who is?
Who can we go after if we don't

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max them out and they and they
leave? I don't ye who anybody under

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thirty? Anybody will under thirty?
Well are you looking up right now?

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Yeah, I'm trying to trying to
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off the top of my head.
Who's available next season? All right,

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let me look at what are we
look at twenty twenty four? Yeah?

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Update, thank you sport track Pascal. If Siakam's not signed up, Pascal

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siakamja go to Toronto. See my
friend Pasca. I'm a Raptor buddy healed?

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Is he forty? A big Pascal
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Raptor. That's just that's just one
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Saw the op in the street and
I see yak Tobias. No,

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it's not a good class. I'm
looking at twenty twenty four. You got

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Pascal buddy, and then Chetti Osman, Roys, O'Neil, Tobias, Harris,

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Klay Thompson. Let's trade the house
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on there. Uh no, man, I think I think we got to

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keep those guys, and unfortunately I
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we gotta sign. Yeah, we
gotta try and maybe trade them. This

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is a bad class. This is
not good Clay, does that do anything

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for you? We gotta bad we
gotta we gotta put that comment, post

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that comment. We got some we
got some rules posted. Guys. What

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do we got? We gotta ultimatum. We gotta ultimatum, y'all even start

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with this hard and stuff. The
team discontinue talks to reason. I'm done

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listening to as long as y'all keep
begging for Harden. We're not begging,

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Eugene, complete dumb ass. Shut
up, you're not You're not listening to

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us. Now. I love that
Adam isn't here to rate over the radio,

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so we'll do it on the internet. Yeah, uh no, Yeah.

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The free agent class, I mean, Pascal would be tight. Pascal

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will be like, I don't see
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pg's gone. Got it, okay, Yeah, because like I mean,

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someone might offer them a full contract. Oh my god, I just really

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want Harden. Now I'm gonna start
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James Gang. But yeah, like
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obviously one of the parts that they
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mess of having those three dudes up. That seems like a bit of a

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nightmare. I think it's under I
think it's untenable. Like I really don't

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know how you do it. It's
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on the where I'm at with the
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I'm okay with either max years or
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be willing to do, you know, a two plus one with the player

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option on the last year for you
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near max. Both PG and Kauai
are just okay, yeah, or you

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know, fully max guaranteed the five
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I know that that creates a really
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don't think. I just don't think
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you can hand out two of those
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max year contracts, forget about the
heart and stuff like, I don't

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think it. I don't think that
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that that prior to this CBA wasn't
drafting young talent, well, wasn't

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really developing that talent. A couple
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know, we you know we didn't, we didn't do a couple things,

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right. But I just I think
with the new CBA and like the how

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much you restricted after you go over
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that you can remain competitive with a
team that that has that much money tied

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up in contracts and next to no
young talent. Like, I don't I

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don't know how teams will be able
to continue to stay competitive. Yeah,

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that's a good call. We got
a question the chat from your boy greg

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A, but why go after just
James? We talked about a little bit

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earlier, but he mentioned I'm sure
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like other than James Harden. It
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wants to come play for this team. I mean I've talked about Dame.

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I've talked about Dame a bunch of
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it. I mean, you know, I would love to make that happen.

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I just don't think that we just
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thing because Dame is locked up.
Like that's the other thing. Like Dame

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is locked up. Yeah, like
whoever trades for him, Like, you're

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comfortable giving up the picks. You're
comfortable giving up a good player because you

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know that you have those years and
sure like his athletic system or whatever will

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decline, but you know that you
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prime on your team. Yeah,
that's a good call, unless you're not

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the heat apparently, Yeah, you're
like. No. We got a question

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kind of in relation to this clip. City Grind asks, I love this

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question, Marcus Morris. Where do
we go from here? Does he come

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to training camp? Phenomenal question,
Carl, where are you out on Marcus

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Morris? We even already talked about
Marcus Morris. Yet why the silence?

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I gotta I can't be like a
I can't be a Twitter, Marcus Morris,

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hater, You're not going to photoshop
his face on like something horrible happening.

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I am you know me. You
know I defend this team to the

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death. I'm not a big fan
of putting us in a place. I

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told you by the time, I
was sitting next to the guy at the

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playing game, we weren't getting good
calls. And the guy told me what,

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you guys haven't earned it as a
franchise. You guys haven't earned good

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calls as a franchise. And I
said how stupid he was. And I

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love Palmer heard me and us so
hopefully that that will give me season tickets

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one day. But I was like, that's a dumb take. That's a

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dumb thing. I never said.
I never called a grown ass man dumb

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that many times to his face.
And I was a stranger too, that's

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great, that's dumb, stupid as
hell. That's a dumb thing to say.

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We mean, we haven't earned a
good call. You kidn't given Paul

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Georgian kawhilin haven't earned good calls,
Get the hell out of my face.

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A staples Center. A Staples Center
red jacket is like, sir, you

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need to calm down. Hell,
no, that's dumb as hell, that's

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dumb. But I don't like conversations
like that about what we've earned what we

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haven't. But I do believe we
shouldn't present ourselves as Clipper fans like that.

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We haven't earned that right to just
like shit on our team like that.

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And he is not He's not great. He did not play great.

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Right. I would like him,
I would. I would prefer him to

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be off the team. But if
he is on the team, I hope

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he plays to his damn best ability. But with all the stuff, like

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they've already tried to trade him once
and did and then it fell through,

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like bringing him back? Will you
talked a little bit about like a weird

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locker room dynamic with the PG contracts
if things go weird. What about the

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locker dynamic this season if a guy
who started and then was benched for Now

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that we're a little further away from
when that happened, that benching was odd.

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But yeah, look, I mean
how it went through. I mean

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it's kind of been talked about how
Rob hasn't had any like conversations Covington.

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Sorry I just said, but Robert
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the summer. I get guarantee you
that is not the same thing happening with

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Ty and Marcus Morris. I'm sure
on vacation, I agree, But I

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assume there was a conversation. You
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get along, and I mean,
to some degree may have influenced some of

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his playing time or some of the
hesitancy to sort of move him. So

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I think that I think that it's
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man, I really love that.
I love I kind of struggle to

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see, like what the utility is
and maybe last year was a blip on

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the radar. He can get a
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like where we knew him to be. But the biggest thing for me is

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just like the falloff. Defensively,
I think it's just a little bit too

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much to stomach. I think you
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with somebody who maybe not that good
Martin. Huh, like kJ Martin already

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got kJ Martin, I know,
but like he could take his place.

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What I'm saying, oh yeah,
take his place. But I'm saying on

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the roster, take his place on. Take somebody to take his place completely

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on the roster, like let's get
let's get rid of him and and just

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sign some contract, like let's get
let's get some people who are out there

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who are looking for an opportunity,
who may be a good fit, that

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are young and you know, may
not be reaching their full potential where where

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they are or anything like let's let's
just get younger. We need to get

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younger. We're old ass team.
I love the kJ Martin move for that.

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Morris? And I know that sounds
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realistically we should. We should have
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you talk about putting butts and seats
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the opening day graphic the Bull that's
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Bow. Welcome to the California.
This is an invitation to my bowl Bowl,

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Nate. We could pay ice Cube
to wear a Clippers gear again like

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you did for that one. Exactly
what the Hail's bow Bowl talking about.

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That's how you get these nuts.
Put your Mount. All right, we

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gotta do a quick ad break because
we gotta keep some of the lights on

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here that we're gonna get some more
questions coming up. We're gonna talk about

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the Rico Heines run. We're gonna
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for the favorite label. Who knows, but some of the ads have been

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loud for some people. Eugene was
talking about how loud they've been. We

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hope he's doing okay, or if
they are doing okay, excuse me.

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Ads coming up, and then we're
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All right, so we're backing on
Cliffs and Dip with special guest Carl

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Tart. Let's move into some mailbag
questions. Hopest Or nine wants to know,

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did y'all watch the clips Rico Heines
run? Who impressed? Chuck,

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I'll kick it to you. I
did watch the Rico Heines run. Right

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after we got this question, Carl, did you see another Rico Heines footage?

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I didn't, Big Plane, No, he was not. I did

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not. I didn't. I didn't
see any of these. Where was it

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at? It's on YouTube. I
didn't see it. It's on YouTube.

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I did watch it. It was
pretty cool. It was Brandon Boston,

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Norm Moosa, Roco kJ Martin.
They were all kind of on the same

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team. They played against Kade Cunningham. I saw Thompson, Isaiah Stewart and

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some other guys. It was cool
to see man. Like, honestly,

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I think we need to talk about
how Bones Highland has seemingly been at every

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single pro am. He's almost doing. Remember when Tres used to just be

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like in the summers and the offseason, Tres was like, yeah, if

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there's a basketball court, I'm playing
on it, like we're just gonna run.

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I love it. Yes, I
love and Bones, Thank you star

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Manhove. I love that Bones Highland
is at all these runs. And he

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was going at Kade Cunningham. And
I know we all know that Bones doesn't

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lack confidence, but it was nice
to see him going head to head with

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Kade. He had a couple in
saying finishes that happened to go in,

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which I think is something Clippers fans. We watched him sometimes last year and

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it was like there's no real plan
when he gets to the room, like

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he can finish well, but sometimes
he's like back to the basket, like

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opposite hand types. Can he finished
well and sometimes I think that's fair.

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I think sometimes it's fair. Bones
has been working. I also want to

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note Brandon Boston Junior now a bigger
frame than Bones Highland, which I think

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is great progress for that young man's
career. Yeah. Yeah, he's a

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big dude. Yeah. Bb Jr. Again looked confident. I think these

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two guys have kind of a similar
vibe when it comes to what you're gonna

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see and something like the Rico Heinz
run. But I was happy to see

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him going against competition like this.
Kate Cunningham looked good. I'm excited to

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see his highlights because I just don't
watch Pistons games, but these runs are

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good. I think Russell Westbrook they
were saying was at one, but I

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couldn't. I didn't see anything about
that. Carl. Where are you at

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on Bones? Has he replaced the
expectations that you had for Brandon Boston Junior?

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Or where are you out on the
young guys? Yeah? I think

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he's better. Uh. The young
guys are tough man and tough in the

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bad weight. I don't I think
they're they're tough to get behind. They've

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shown very tiny flashes, but haven't
done enough for me. Uh. Such

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a cool story that was put out
about Moosa in the G League, I

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mean in the Drew League. Yeah, and then I was like, but

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why is he struggling in the Drew
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fair. It's very cool that his
that he that he has his Uh yeah,

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he's coachable and he's really why is
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You played in BA. You don't
think the Bones could soak up some minutes

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at the one with the starters?
Yeah, I mean with the starters soak

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up minute? Maybe not SoC maybe
did his toes a minute much? Yeah,

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maybe that's mopping up when things go
when things getting messy. I don't

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think. I don't think Bones is
the safety guy that we subb in when

404
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:17,319
things are like things are so frenup. But out of all the point guards

405
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,759
on our roster, yeah, he's
gonna have to be him. I mean

406
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:23,319
that's true though. That's a good
call, am I tripping? Does Norm

407
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:27,119
never really played a one? Can
he not play the one? He kind

408
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,680
of plays the one? Oh?
Norm looks phenomenal in these runs. I

409
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:34,240
think he looked the best. But
again, he has much more experience than

410
00:28:34,759 --> 00:28:37,839
most of the people he was playing
with. Rocco was there excited for a

411
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:41,559
healthy Norm. We haven't talked about
Norm enough on this podcast. I love

412
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:47,119
watching Norm. I think a full
season, a healthy Norm should help the

413
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:51,400
regular season as compared to last season. That's a good call. I'm looking

414
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:56,079
up his position breakdowns right now.
He doesn't really pass. That's not really

415
00:28:56,160 --> 00:29:00,200
this thing. He's not there to
pass. He played twenty five per cent

416
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,279
of his minutes at point guard for
the Clippers last season, and sixty seven

417
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,400
percent of the two Yeah, well, what's his what's his assist per game?

418
00:29:06,839 --> 00:29:08,119
No, I'm saying he like he's
for sure a two guard. Yeah.

419
00:29:08,599 --> 00:29:15,920
His assist per game last year one
point eight? Yeah, yeah,

420
00:29:15,319 --> 00:29:21,640
healthy one point that's what That's probably
why it's not let's let's call it two

421
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:25,279
guys. Well, I was about
to say, I know Matth is kind

422
00:29:25,319 --> 00:29:27,799
of the only absolute we have on
this planet, but I would round down

423
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:33,960
on that. That's an accidental assist
that gets tipped off his hands and Brandon

424
00:29:34,039 --> 00:29:38,440
Boston makes a three. Yeah.
No, I mean yeah, we gotta

425
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,440
get younger and we gotta get some
more action in there. I love the

426
00:29:41,519 --> 00:29:48,039
kJ. Martin move homes and kJ
together is gonna be very fun to watch.

427
00:29:48,119 --> 00:29:51,559
Offensively, the kJ play defense.
I haven't seen. I haven't watched

428
00:29:51,599 --> 00:29:53,240
enough of him. I haven't I
don't watch a lot of Rockets games.

429
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,319
Yeah, so I mean, based
on their team, probably not. I

430
00:29:57,359 --> 00:30:00,920
don't think he's been another guy who
like has the tools but played for the

431
00:30:00,039 --> 00:30:03,839
Rockets. So it's a little though. I feel like it's I think that

432
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:08,200
those player evaluations are pretty hard for
me from like this team. This team

433
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,079
doesn't give a shit about defense,
Like they're they're not in a good scheme,

434
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,839
they're not being taught good things,
Like how do you what do you

435
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:18,000
take away from that? Yeah,
it's like college, Like I guess it's

436
00:30:18,079 --> 00:30:21,519
cool when guys are good defenders in
college and you're like, Okay, they

437
00:30:21,599 --> 00:30:23,279
clearly have the instincts, but if
they suck, it's kind of like,

438
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,279
well they could maybe get better.
I mean, it wasn't an emphasis of

439
00:30:26,359 --> 00:30:30,599
their program. Yeah that's a good
call. Oh, someone in the chat

440
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:34,119
is saying, according to Rockets fans, kJ is not a defender, but

441
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,799
maybe it was the team. Yeah, it sounds about right. That happened,

442
00:30:38,359 --> 00:30:41,400
Carl, What did you think of
kJ Martin being the only Clippers player

443
00:30:41,559 --> 00:30:47,440
in the schedule kickoff video. I
didn't see that either. I was so

444
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:53,480
pissed off by every other team's schedule
kickoff video. The Clippers one is well

445
00:30:53,599 --> 00:31:00,119
broad. He takes a basketball that
has the Wilson hand print from Castaway to

446
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,200
Chick fil A, and Hannah Cormier's
in it at a dance rehearsal and their

447
00:31:03,519 --> 00:31:11,440
venice. That's nice. I don't
know. It was not my favorite intro

448
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,640
video. There were some whack ones. I want who'd I watched? And

449
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:18,240
I was they were like rolling down
bottles of stuff every team. Yeah,

450
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:22,599
And I was like, if it's
if it's anything disrespectful from the fucking timberwoold,

451
00:31:22,599 --> 00:31:26,240
I'm gonna flip my god damn winging
and those paper clips. And I'm

452
00:31:26,279 --> 00:31:29,920
like, all right, that's fine, Like s I get you that one.

453
00:31:30,839 --> 00:31:33,839
If it was anything that was like, we don't even want to make

454
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:38,279
one for them, if they rolled
down like any anything that wasn't they rolled

455
00:31:38,319 --> 00:31:42,200
down the they rolled down the legislation
that said it's Donald Sterling's fault that there's

456
00:31:42,279 --> 00:31:48,519
rank there has to be in California, Well, it wasn't very good.

457
00:31:48,559 --> 00:31:51,640
I don't know if you need to
watch. I think that's totally fine.

458
00:31:52,319 --> 00:31:53,480
But I like that they're hyping him
up. I like that we are like

459
00:31:55,039 --> 00:31:56,000
he's gonna be a piece. I
feel like he's gonna be a big part

460
00:31:56,000 --> 00:32:00,039
of the team. He's athletic as
hell. Yes, he can cut.

461
00:32:00,279 --> 00:32:07,079
That's good to see. We got
a question from Tyler Landinsky. He says

462
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,720
last year was the first year ever
that the Clips were the favorite to win

463
00:32:09,759 --> 00:32:15,240
a championship. I don't think that
they actually were the favorite train championship,

464
00:32:15,279 --> 00:32:16,839
but he says, which means the
Clippers had a target on their back.

465
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:22,119
Every team went after them every game. Tyler doesn't think that they were ready

466
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,559
for that. He's curious if anyone
agrees, and he doesn't think this gets

467
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:30,000
enough attention. Uh, Carl,
go ahead, Yeah, I don't.

468
00:32:30,039 --> 00:32:32,200
I don't think we're ever ready for
that. I don't think we have the

469
00:32:32,279 --> 00:32:37,480
personalities on our team to be ready
for that. I think Kawai was Kawhi

470
00:32:37,559 --> 00:32:43,200
is always Kawhi is always ready,
but he didn't play, so it is

471
00:32:43,759 --> 00:32:46,519
it's tough to think about that.
You know, he's always ready. He

472
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:50,400
marches to be his own drum.
He would have really been bad on that

473
00:32:50,599 --> 00:32:52,799
Iran Maya Florida team. Oh yeah, he would have been like, I'm

474
00:32:52,799 --> 00:32:55,440
not running for ship. Yeah,
yeah, I'm gonna go out here.

475
00:32:55,480 --> 00:33:00,200
I'm gonna play really well on Saturdays, but I'm not running. I'm not

476
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:05,279
going to class. Yeah, except
for pottery class. But he yeah,

477
00:33:06,559 --> 00:33:08,279
I don't know. I think we
just don't have. If we had to

478
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:13,599
still had Paul Paul George, Pat
Bath or something like that, I think

479
00:33:13,599 --> 00:33:15,400
we would have. That would have
taken us over the top energy wise.

480
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:20,279
Do you think a full season of
Russ now coming up? Yes, maybe

481
00:33:20,599 --> 00:33:22,319
that, Yes, that substitutes a
bit of the Pat beevness. Yes,

482
00:33:22,559 --> 00:33:28,720
absolutely, and bones. I think
Ball's gonna get into mask too. You

483
00:33:28,839 --> 00:33:30,920
got to Westbrook, Jersey, right, Yeah, Okay, he's getting so

484
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:36,519
he's getting traded at Oh he's gone
yeah yeah, yeah for sure. I

485
00:33:36,599 --> 00:33:42,440
bought I bought an on court ZoomBox
Jersey. Really no, I remember what

486
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,440
I was talking to you guys.
It was on the NBA auctions and I

487
00:33:44,519 --> 00:33:46,799
was like, damn, how much
was it? It wasn't two forty,

488
00:33:47,079 --> 00:33:50,240
It wasn't even crazy. It was
like how much you would pay for a

489
00:33:50,319 --> 00:33:52,400
replica, Like maybe even a little
less. And for how much and for

490
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,680
how much fabric that is? That's
a screaming deal. That was the thing.

491
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:59,039
I was like, if I buy
this jersey, a do I wear

492
00:33:59,079 --> 00:34:02,759
it? Because it'll go down to
my knees? Yeah? And then like

493
00:34:02,839 --> 00:34:06,000
I'm like, what do I frame
it? Like? Do I keep it

494
00:34:06,119 --> 00:34:08,360
like my like my Blake jersey back? I think I need to get signed.

495
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,679
Yeah. But then it's like then
people are like, oh, you

496
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:16,840
gotta Blake Griffin and a piece of
Yeah, the longest currently the longest ten

497
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:20,320
year Clipper. I don't know why
you wouldn't have it, You wouldn't have

498
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,159
a jersey hung out? Well,
where are you at? Do you agree

499
00:34:23,199 --> 00:34:28,599
with Tyler Lane Dinsky? That's a
Midwestern name if I've heard one. I

500
00:34:28,639 --> 00:34:30,840
think we as fans think about this
stuff a way more than the players do.

501
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:36,679
Like I think that players get up
to play teams that are good,

502
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,880
and I mean I just had to
be honest. I like maybe maybe they

503
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:45,079
did have a targear on their back, or teams thought they were I thought

504
00:34:45,119 --> 00:34:46,719
the Clippers would be good, or
just wanted to stunt on the Clippers.

505
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:50,360
I don't know. I think it's
the same though for a lot of teams.

506
00:34:52,519 --> 00:34:53,360
Yeah, I don't. I don't
think that I agree with Will.

507
00:34:54,559 --> 00:34:58,719
I agree with you. I think
I think the Clippers, no matter what

508
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:02,639
our franchise, what row our franchise
takes to get better and and to to

509
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:07,400
erase the history of whatever the franchise
has been in the past, I think

510
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:08,920
we all grew up being like,
oh, the Clippers is a dub.

511
00:35:09,079 --> 00:35:12,480
I'm going in here and get a
dub on the Clippers, right, And

512
00:35:12,639 --> 00:35:15,280
even though we have the most winning
team in the past ten years, people

513
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,719
are like, I'm not afraid of
the Clippers. I think even on back

514
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:21,599
to back nights where the teams have
to play the Lakers the next night,

515
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,239
I think they're more like, no, I gotta come alive for that.

516
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:28,719
I feel like when that court changes
and those lights go down in the stands,

517
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:36,320
people treat that like Madison Square Garden. Yeah, getting ways, no

518
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,960
community outreach, no none, They
don't need to. They turn up for

519
00:35:39,039 --> 00:35:42,840
that. That's like, that's that's
that's the West Coast Madison Square Garden.

520
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,760
When when they played it, so
I think and I think us it's like,

521
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:50,480
you know, I think it's just
a disrespect across the league. That's

522
00:35:50,559 --> 00:35:52,599
like, oh, yeah, but
that's the Clippers though, It's like the

523
00:35:52,679 --> 00:35:57,039
Clippers are like the TD Guarden,
Right, yeah, there was our Barclay

524
00:35:57,119 --> 00:36:02,199
Center. Yeah. I think that's
fair. It's and it's also it's so

525
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:06,519
I like what Will said about how
I don't think players think about it maybe

526
00:36:06,559 --> 00:36:12,199
as much as fans do. It's
also really difficult when your team is in

527
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:16,599
flux of being totally hurt. Yeah, And like it's also like, it's

528
00:36:16,639 --> 00:36:21,159
not like I think to say this
argument that they weren't ready for the target

529
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:23,800
kind of discredits all the ship they
were going through with injuries, because it's

530
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:28,800
not like we were fully healthy and
we shipped the bet everyone like our main

531
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:32,599
guys were hurt. It's also I
mean, like I kind of think too,

532
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,159
and I'm not you know, in
the locker room, but to a

533
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,960
certain degree, there's expectations on every
team, you know, like in like

534
00:36:40,119 --> 00:36:44,039
for the players, and it's not
that you're gonna win the championship. I

535
00:36:44,079 --> 00:36:49,000
think you're aware of the talent,
the talent level and everything that's on your

536
00:36:49,039 --> 00:36:52,639
team, but you have goals and
aspirations, and I think it's pretty clear

537
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:58,719
when you're not really meeting those just
kind of like any other job. Yeah,

538
00:37:00,119 --> 00:37:06,960
just like it's just stressful to think
about like every day, Like I'm

539
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,840
on strike. I'm on double strike
right now. Oh yeah, you are

540
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:15,280
on double strike. I'm on double
strike, and I like everything about this

541
00:37:15,679 --> 00:37:20,840
is just like, ah, are
you wearing are you wearing your clippers jersey?

542
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:22,920
And hopes that you see Margot Robbie
one of the strikes and you go,

543
00:37:22,119 --> 00:37:24,360
oh, hey, I don't I
don't know you, but we both

544
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:28,400
are Clippers fans. Yeah, oh
my god, what those your real feet?

545
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:36,800
And Barbie? Wow, I would
love to compare. I don't know,

546
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,079
that's crazy, Like, don need
some lotion on them or something.

547
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:43,719
What other movies do you show your
feet? That's let me just let me

548
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,559
just write this down. Once upon
a time in Hollywood for sure. Yeah.

549
00:37:47,679 --> 00:37:52,559
It was definitely in Babylon. Oh
yeah, yeah, all right,

550
00:37:52,639 --> 00:37:54,920
this this thinks so, but there's
not a foot. I don't know if

551
00:37:54,960 --> 00:38:00,079
there they weren't. I would love
so munch of this. If this thirty

552
00:38:00,119 --> 00:38:04,320
eight minute mark of this podcast was
the first time someone tuned in on the

553
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:08,280
live stream not her real feet.
Barley, by the way, did you

554
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:12,719
just look it up? No,
I already know. Do you know whose

555
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:19,440
feet they are? Some of the
foot model Lady Goslings. Yeah, all

556
00:38:19,519 --> 00:38:22,119
right. We got a question from
the law of the jam of the podcast,

557
00:38:22,159 --> 00:38:25,400
which is also under the two and
three Hoops umbrella as Clips and dip

558
00:38:25,559 --> 00:38:29,599
is, go and check out all
their content. They don't talk about feet

559
00:38:29,599 --> 00:38:31,599
as much, so if that's what
you're into, check out this podcast.

560
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:37,079
They want to know what the Clippers
curses up to these days, and how

561
00:38:37,159 --> 00:38:43,800
does the Clippers curset reel about James
hard Oh oh, oh no, what

562
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:50,920
is that? It's the ship coming
in. Oh I'm ducking in Inglewood.

563
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:59,599
You were in France? I was
not. I was not. I was

564
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:05,159
in Seattle, okay, and I
sing the floor for the preseason game.

565
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,519
Oh no, you're putting in that
preseason. You're doing work too on the

566
00:39:07,599 --> 00:39:12,760
preseason. I'm on double strike.
God this get this damn curse? So

567
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:19,079
okay, curse. I'll work for
Kaiser Permanente the various activities aside. Can

568
00:39:19,119 --> 00:39:22,079
you give us any inside or any
source info on this James Harden situation?

569
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:28,440
Listen, I'm an insider. I
stay inside, I live inside. Have

570
00:39:28,559 --> 00:39:30,119
you guys talked about feet yet?
By the way we have. You'll have

571
00:39:30,199 --> 00:39:32,880
to rewind to the thirty eight minute
mark. Oh perfect, whose feet or

572
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:38,440
curse? We'll get to that later. I think you know. I think

573
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:44,840
James Harden will not be joining our
team in the beginning of the season,

574
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:52,840
unfortunately, but campaign will. But
later in the season, Yes, later

575
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:57,400
in the season, he's coming.
He'll be bigger than ever. You're strong,

576
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:01,960
Oxen strong, and he'll do everything
we need him to do. Wait

577
00:40:02,119 --> 00:40:07,559
all to Russell. We the curse, as we the curse, or as

578
00:40:07,679 --> 00:40:14,800
we Clippers, we the curse?
Oi oi boo? Of course, oh

579
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,800
we the curse, and he will
do everything we need him to do.

580
00:40:19,639 --> 00:40:24,719
Pass the ball arrantly to Russell Westbrook
behind the three point line. Oh oh

581
00:40:25,559 --> 00:40:29,559
oh, did I lose you?
I don't like this curse. I don't

582
00:40:29,639 --> 00:40:31,440
like what you're doing. I don't
know why you're in Seattle, but I

583
00:40:31,559 --> 00:40:36,519
hope you didn't. I told you
I'm buttering the floor for the preseason game.

584
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:38,440
First you said I think, Now
you said buttering. I'm not sure

585
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:44,719
what icing and buttering like a pop
start. You gotta cover your basis,

586
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:49,320
got to make sure that floor is
as slippery as possible for our starters.

587
00:40:50,039 --> 00:40:52,599
I want to see musa debate starting
this season. No, all right,

588
00:40:52,679 --> 00:40:55,639
Curse, we gotta, we gotta, We're gonna put too far. You

589
00:40:55,800 --> 00:41:00,840
just pulled in the anglewood. Well, good luck, buddy, bar of

590
00:41:00,119 --> 00:41:02,920
Wa. Well, thank you,
Curse for coming in. We appreciate that,

591
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:08,360
I guess, thank you for that
question opposite, bar of War.

592
00:41:12,519 --> 00:41:15,679
This is a hard side. But
does anyone here follow Brad Turner, the

593
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:20,679
Lakers writer on Twitter. No,
Yeah, that man is on his annual

594
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,320
Paris trip, and I don't think
there's anyone who enjoys going to Paris more

595
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:27,480
than Brad Turner. Yeah, it
seems like a good time. Yeah,

596
00:41:27,519 --> 00:41:30,639
he's in meeking us. He's having
a great time. All right, coming

597
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:32,280
up, We're done with questions unless
you send him to us. On the

598
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:37,519
livestream at YouTube dot com slash at
Clippers podcast, we're gonna talk lou Will

599
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:40,760
saying now him and Jamal Crawfords are
being in the Hall of Fame, some

600
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:45,599
Clippers betting odds because Adam's not here, So we can really let loose and

601
00:41:45,639 --> 00:41:47,920
talk about feet and gambling money.
We got ads coming up. They've been

602
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:52,480
too loud, Go ahead and turn
it down. Uh, championship odds coming

603
00:41:52,559 --> 00:41:58,159
up after this. All right,
we are back. We're talking random stuff

604
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:01,679
with Clipper Carr Tart. He's on
double strike, doing his best. He's

605
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:06,760
on the picket lines, he's supporting. Recently, Lou Will said that he

606
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:12,320
and Jamal Crawford belong in the Basketball
Hall of Fame. Carl agree or disagree?

607
00:42:12,559 --> 00:42:15,519
Agree. I think the sixth man
is is one of the most important

608
00:42:15,559 --> 00:42:21,159
positions in basketball, and they both
did it the best, and I think

609
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:24,639
that they were very successful at it, right, And it's I think any

610
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:28,400
argument to discredit it. I'm like, why why would you be mad at

611
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,119
this? Yeah, Like, it's
the basketball It's not the NBA Hall of

612
00:42:30,199 --> 00:42:35,960
Fame, which is I think sometimes
something people will get it's the basketball Hall

613
00:42:36,039 --> 00:42:39,800
of Fame, meaning they should a
one hundred percent they want like some wild

614
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:44,719
percentage of the those awards that have
been given out the whole time. Lou

615
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,280
Will was lou Wills came out of
high school and played until he was with

616
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:52,079
thirty six years old. Thirty seven, Yes, and not only did he

617
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,079
just come out of high school because
I look, I wanted to look at

618
00:42:54,079 --> 00:42:58,519
his wiki to be like, Okay, aside from the pro stuff, like

619
00:42:59,119 --> 00:43:04,599
he was basketball and Georgia as a
junior and senior he was the Nice Wreath

620
00:43:04,639 --> 00:43:09,639
Prep Player of the Year and he's
the second all time leading scorer in Georgia

621
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:14,159
high school basketball history. Yeah,
man, put them in the Hall of

622
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:19,639
Fame. Will are you against it? I'm with it? Like so I

623
00:43:20,079 --> 00:43:23,159
get that. I get that people's
arguments are kind of like where do you

624
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:28,760
draw the line? You know,
like with with these players like say Lou

625
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:32,400
Will and Jamal Crawford get in,
you know, like where does it stop?

626
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:36,760
Exactly Like what I would say though, that for me, the Hall

627
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,880
of Fame criteria is already like you
know, who's definitely getting in right kind

628
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:44,440
with like eight All Star appearances,
Like they're gonna get in, Like that's

629
00:43:44,519 --> 00:43:47,480
cool. I think that like for
me, like part of it should not

630
00:43:47,559 --> 00:43:52,000
just be accolades, but how they
sort of transformed the game, you know

631
00:43:52,079 --> 00:43:54,320
what I mean, Like that to
me is as important. And I think

632
00:43:54,440 --> 00:44:00,440
that the way Lou Will and Jamal
Crawford impacted the way that position is played

633
00:44:00,559 --> 00:44:02,519
because now, I mean they kind
of change how the sixth Man of the

634
00:44:02,599 --> 00:44:07,440
Year award is even given right now, it's like best bench orror and you

635
00:44:07,519 --> 00:44:08,960
know, for better or worse,
if you're if you're against that sort of

636
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:13,599
thing. But I think that that
impact should also be reflected in the Hall

637
00:44:13,639 --> 00:44:16,599
of Fame, Like why wouldn't it
be isn't Genoba getting in? Yeah?

638
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:21,639
Yeah, yeah, he's also I
think multiple champions, So like, yes,

639
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,039
that that's you think he's a multiple
champion. I think I wasn't there,

640
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:30,239
sure, not sure the video.
I wasn't there. I saw him

641
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:34,920
catch that bad I know that was
real. That in the moon landing,

642
00:44:35,119 --> 00:44:38,320
pretty sure. I'm pretty sure they
heard what they're what they're saying is true.

643
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:40,559
Then yeah, it happened. But
yeah, they got to be in

644
00:44:40,599 --> 00:44:46,920
the half. Anytime you win a
major NBA award three times, yeah,

645
00:44:47,159 --> 00:44:51,960
I think it's pretty difficult to argue
that person just shouldn't be an All of

646
00:44:52,079 --> 00:44:58,159
Fame. Teams have to set there, Uh have to set there? What

647
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:00,280
am I trying to say? Not
line up, but have to change their

648
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:04,199
game plan for both of those guys. Yeah, even though they're not the

649
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:06,519
starter on the team, they have
to change their game plan for both of

650
00:45:06,559 --> 00:45:08,000
them. Who they who they first
subban, who their sixth man is going

651
00:45:08,079 --> 00:45:10,679
to be? All that type of
stuff. So yeah, I don't think

652
00:45:10,679 --> 00:45:15,119
they don't need to be first ballot
like immediately after they retire, but like,

653
00:45:15,559 --> 00:45:16,559
you know how they do. You
know how when you're watching the NFL

654
00:45:16,679 --> 00:45:22,280
Hall of Fame induction everything, who
the hell is that guy? Yeah?

655
00:45:23,079 --> 00:45:27,719
Uh, someone's asking, are we
serious? Nobody's way more accomplished than new

656
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:30,000
Will and Jamal. We know that, we know that we were not making

657
00:45:30,039 --> 00:45:34,920
that. We were not making a
COMPETI not making a comparison. This is

658
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,400
the issue that I have with this
shit go off, Like people just want

659
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:42,400
to argue, right, are you
serious? We didn't say we did not

660
00:45:42,559 --> 00:45:46,280
say that. I mentioned his name
because he was a sixth man and we

661
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:50,639
said he was very good. And
when multiple Charles followed up with I think

662
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:53,079
he won championship, yeah, we
also think that the earth is round.

663
00:45:54,519 --> 00:45:59,119
No, come on, man,
we're not trying to argue this. We're

664
00:45:59,159 --> 00:46:01,159
not saying that. Yeah, I'm
not saying that they should all be in

665
00:46:01,199 --> 00:46:05,320
the Hall of Fame. Everybody,
everybody who's ever stepped on an NBA court,

666
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:07,079
including myself. I got a picture
of me on NBA court. I

667
00:46:07,079 --> 00:46:13,239
should be in the Hall of Fame. Is out there? Yeah, all

668
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,679
right, we're talking betting lines now. Since Adam is gone, you can't

669
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:22,519
talk about this stuff from Draft Kings
sports book. Uh. The Clippers odds

670
00:46:22,599 --> 00:46:27,480
to win the twenty three twenty four
NBA Finals are plus eighteen hundred, So

671
00:46:27,559 --> 00:46:31,679
if you're bet one hundred bucks,
you will win eighteen hundred dollars. Uh.

672
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:37,119
Fair or unfair As of August twenty
fifth at four pm. I think

673
00:46:37,159 --> 00:46:39,800
it's a little overfair. Oh you're
saying, you're saying smash that, but

674
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:45,239
take that bet. Yeah, take
that one hundred eight hundred. I'm not

675
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:47,559
mad at that. Yeah, you're
taking that every time? Yeah, every

676
00:46:47,639 --> 00:46:51,480
time, doesn't matter what the bet
is. I'll take it every bed,

677
00:46:51,559 --> 00:46:57,000
every time. And I'm also going
to the Hall of Fame four yea,

678
00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:02,760
I will. Are you Are you
putting that hundred down? Absolutely not?

679
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:07,880
Absolutely not. You think the odds
should be better or worse? Uh?

680
00:47:08,559 --> 00:47:14,079
Maybe I feel like maybe slightly horriors. I think someone in the chat I

681
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:20,119
apologize, I showed it up.
It was Eugene. They said that it

682
00:47:20,199 --> 00:47:22,320
was like plus two thousand, which
actually feels a little bit more accurate.

683
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:29,360
Yeah, I think and we don't
like Kauai is gonna be ready that's what

684
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:34,159
they say. I mean because like, so plus eighteen hundred, that roughly

685
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:37,119
equates to what like a one in
eighteen chance that they win the NBA Finals.

686
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:39,800
Sure, I don't feel like it's
that. I don't know that it's

687
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:47,360
that high. You think one in
twenty kind damn? All right, let's

688
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:51,320
take it down a notch. Clippers
odds to win the twenty three twenty four

689
00:47:51,360 --> 00:48:00,280
Western Conference plus two thousands. Actually, I'm gonna recant on this. I'm

690
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:05,360
sorry. I feel like I feel
they're serious. I feel like they have

691
00:48:05,679 --> 00:48:09,800
a better chance of winning the finals
than they do the Western Conference. And

692
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:17,039
you know, it sounds crazy,
crazy, like the odds if we if

693
00:48:17,119 --> 00:48:21,320
we beat whatever team is on the
other side of us in that West Conference

694
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:27,360
finals, Phoenix Denver, the other
LA team Denver, if you go through,

695
00:48:27,559 --> 00:48:30,639
if you go through like Phoenix Denver. I mean even like, let's

696
00:48:30,639 --> 00:48:32,480
say as Zion's healthy, the Pelicans
are good, uh, you know,

697
00:48:32,599 --> 00:48:36,119
fully healthy, Grizzlies, like you
know, there's a thunder, aren't going

698
00:48:36,199 --> 00:48:38,480
to be shitty. Yeah, there's
a lot of tough teams that you could

699
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:42,400
have to go through, not that
there aren't in the East, but I

700
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:45,480
like I'm liking whoever comes out of
the West to win the whole thing.

701
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:50,719
Okay, and then talk about division. This is where the real This is

702
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:53,000
where you know, you're a complete
lunatic if you're This is where my degenerate

703
00:48:53,079 --> 00:48:57,360
gambler. Yeah, this is where
the degenerates rat the l A Clippers odds

704
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:05,960
to win the Pacific Division next year
plus five fifty one. M h yeah,

705
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:08,400
I'll take that Phoenix. You got
the other LA team, you got

706
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:14,400
the Dubs, you got the Kings, you got us. Never mind,

707
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:22,559
I'm gonna recan't bro. The pactive
is gonna be a damn nightmare next year.

708
00:49:22,679 --> 00:49:25,079
The NBA's gonna be a nightmare.
I'm not watching. You're not You're

709
00:49:25,119 --> 00:49:28,960
out. I'm checking. I'm checking
out at the super Bowl. I'm checking

710
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:31,880
out a sports at the Super Bowl. Uh Will? Where are you out?

711
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:36,800
On these pactive betting? Are you
putting that that, Benjamin, they

712
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:38,400
have a one in five chance to
win the division? Yeah, I mean

713
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:42,639
that seems pretty reasonable, all right, So you're putting that hundred down?

714
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:49,760
Yes, okay, that's fair.
Yeah. Man, God, I wish

715
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:52,320
the division. Well I haven't,
I don't. I can't remember on the

716
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:54,480
schedule. Off the top of my
head, how many of the Pacific Division

717
00:49:54,519 --> 00:49:58,239
games are played at noon? And
how many are played in that span where

718
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:01,199
we play one quarter of the season
in the same Oh, let me check

719
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:07,239
out the Clippers. That's a have
you looked at any of this stuff at

720
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:10,079
all? There's one month in which
the Clippers play a quarter of the entire

721
00:50:10,159 --> 00:50:15,639
season. Seven. I sent y'all
that that TikTok of the woman saying we're

722
00:50:15,639 --> 00:50:20,320
the most hated team. We are
Finally somebody outside of our fan base says

723
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:22,400
it, were you trying to get
on Live and be like, hey,

724
00:50:22,519 --> 00:50:24,719
well I was trying to. I
was trying to share that in my story,

725
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:28,400
but she didn't. She has her
she has that turned off. She

726
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:31,639
probably gets a lot of hate because
she's a woman in sports. But unfortunately,

727
00:50:32,039 --> 00:50:37,000
Yeah, but sometimes I also see
her talking some bullshit, so she

728
00:50:37,079 --> 00:50:42,679
deserves to hate on those days.
But it definitely there are times where like

729
00:50:43,559 --> 00:50:45,960
it feels like only we are saying, like there's got to be some conspiracy

730
00:50:46,039 --> 00:50:50,360
out against us. And so I'm
happy that somebody who doesn't like us,

731
00:50:50,679 --> 00:50:52,920
because I assume she's a Laker fan, because that's what most people who get

732
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:58,039
online and talk sports are or Laker
fans. Uh. She is even saying

733
00:50:58,079 --> 00:51:00,239
like, wow, this has to
be the most hated team. Well,

734
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:04,639
we have what like forty percent more
air travel miles than like any other team.

735
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:08,760
So in March, no pactive games, none, we don't play a

736
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:15,079
single divisional opponent. It's all Eastern
Conference teams except for Dallas and Portland.

737
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:23,800
Damn. However, in April we
play Sacramento once and Phoenix twice. Man,

738
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:27,719
the end of the season is gonna
be. It's it's gonna be a

739
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:30,360
test. It's gonna be. And
then the last thing I want to talk

740
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:34,000
about Coach Bell. I don't know
if you guys remember coach Bell. He's

741
00:51:34,039 --> 00:51:36,440
going to the Suns. He's doing
with the Clippers for like seven years or

742
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:40,199
something like that. Kind of a
interesting loss. I thought he's just been

743
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:47,599
a figure on the Clippers ciling for
a very long time. Okay, dude

744
00:51:47,679 --> 00:51:53,719
was super cool. Carl. Is
there anything that you can legally plug during

745
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:59,000
your double strike moment that you would
like people to come check you out?

746
00:51:59,199 --> 00:52:02,039
I've blood pocket ask you. You
can come on patreon dot com and listen

747
00:52:02,079 --> 00:52:07,280
to me talk crap about sports and
tell you how much better Jamal Crawford and

748
00:52:07,519 --> 00:52:15,960
Lou Williams are than Minujanobli and the
two Bats for a fee or fee for

749
00:52:15,039 --> 00:52:17,639
five dollars a month or seven dollars
a month, something like that. Patreon

750
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:21,960
dot com forward slash the Flagrant Ones. You can listen to Foodsballs, which

751
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:24,000
is new football podcast I got out. That is on the main feed,

752
00:52:24,079 --> 00:52:29,559
but there's bonus on the same Patreon. Check that one out. First episode

753
00:52:29,639 --> 00:52:31,239
is out and then we're gonna be
talking fantasy football and stuff like that.

754
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:36,039
And also listen to Xoxo Got Some
Kings, which is the podcast I host

755
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:38,039
from my home boy Lamar will Is. Will we watch Gospel Girl and talk

756
00:52:38,079 --> 00:52:43,639
shit about it? That seems like
a fun time, fun time. Well,

757
00:52:43,679 --> 00:52:45,280
thank you so much for being a
part of this podcast. We'll absolutely

758
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:49,519
have your back. Thanks for hanging
out on live. Thanks for getting yelled

759
00:52:49,559 --> 00:52:53,800
at by Illustrate NBA and Eugene.
I hope those two people are having a

760
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:58,800
good day. Will anything you want
to add her back next week with the

761
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:01,760
whole crew reviews? Help us out? Will what would you like to send

762
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:07,039
off these Clippers fans to enjoy their
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763
00:53:07,119 --> 00:53:12,760
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764
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:15,800
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765
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:17,599
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766
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:22,320
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767
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:27,400
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768
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:30,599
And we hope Adam Olsen is doing
okay up north. He will be back

769
00:53:30,679 --> 00:53:35,039
eventually, we think. But yeah, we'll be back next week and as

770
00:53:35,039 --> 00:53:36,920
always, let's go clips.
