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All right there, Jeff, jump
on up in the chair there and let

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me just roll up a bit.
Help this up. You don't mind,

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I've I've got a step stool for
children. Here. Here you go.

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So I am an adult, I
understand. Having said that, I am

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an adult mongoose, I'm not above
being picked up, and I would ask

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you politely strip me like an adult
and lift me up gently onto this seat.

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You have to understand to see the
bottom of it. It's taller than

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my head. I'm just a mongoos
I want Oh, okay, here you

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go. Thank you? Is that? So? Let me go and wash

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my hands real quick. I wouldn't
be in my mouth, I'd be I'd

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have some questions if you didn't.
Jeff, Oh no, no problems up.

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All right, I'll washed up and
let's see. So what are we

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in for today? You're having a
little pain? Is just to check up,

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just to clear you have the most
noisers. I brush regularly. That's

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good, that's good. Lost a
lot of my life to get in there

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a little bit, all right,
all right, so if you just carte.

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Yeah, a lot of keynines going
on, a lot of keynines.

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There's a little staining around there that's
got broke on the gums, just a

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little bit to see how they responding. Normal? Does this saying yes,

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yes, I'm poking the gums to
uh make them a little puffy, to

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just see how they how they react
and old hands out? Okay, are

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you trying to tell me I've got
puffy receding gums? Not? Boy,

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I'm just good, you know on
number one number two back there in the

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in the back. Um listen,
I don't know your maths. I don't

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know what you're trying to tell me, but I know that I take immaculate

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care these teeth, these teeth on
my tools, I'll tell you. And

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did I tell you? I use
these tools to kill cobras? Okay,

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Well, your incisors look great.
There's there's a lot um. There's a

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little steaming birds you got working out
Frontay? What what's what's her name?

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Rebecca? Rebecca? Right? I
like to rub Becca. You get that,

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as I said, I like Becca. She she get pardo, as

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I say, I don't know.
I haven't asked her, Jeff, I

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haven't asked her. All right.
Sometimes I guess you just gotta go for

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it, buddy, too, right
too, right now, you're speaking my

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language. You know, we've got
common common ground. Now, alright,

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get back in there. I'm a
dentist, all right, I'm not blind

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right right too. It's a little
dentist joke. It's a little get your

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hands back game on that. This
is fine, this is fine. Here,

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let's see that incisors good. Incisire
Molo molo moo moo moo ms to

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the ram. It's just a little
dinners jokes, dinner joke Indiana Jones.

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Although I'll store interviewing, Okay,
okay, I need to open up a

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little more, Okay. In this
case, I would I would really recommend

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some some mouthwash, you know,
if it's gonna go easy on the milk

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mouthwah yeah yeah, but butter milk's
not not that great. It's a content

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in there, and and then it'll
get the sugar in there. You you.

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That's where the gentle the gum disease
ginger vitus comes in. So the

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gum disease, what comma, I'm
sorry, gets that's that's what I just

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said, just making sure we have
to say that. It's union. You

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know, I need to know about
the gum disease, Rebecca. You know,

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that was a little stretch. No, that was a bit of a

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stretch, granted, but I was
just coming. I've got an assistance get

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away. Listen to this particular discussion
back onto the birds on the front of

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the house. No, but I
was going to tell you I have an

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assistant named Ginger that that joke.
Will would have really flown with that one.

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But you know, she's only on
Tuesdays, Tuesdays and Thursday. She's

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only these things. Off I listen, I see, uh, Rebecca is

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actually flagging me down. Let me
let me go. I think it may

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him. May him? Are you
doing to me? No? No,

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you wouldn't have dentist Okay, okay, Jeff, you Jeff, Rebecca is

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actually saying your your insurance has been
denied. So you well, Mike,

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well, I can't continue examining you
right now. Oh is it? What

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is it? A credit card?
Maybe? I don't even again now it

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doesn't work like again, run the
card again. I'm sorry, Jeff,

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it's just what I don't like that. It's just it could have been magnetized.

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I travel extensively. It could have
been demagnetized back scat to X ray

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machines. Security. If you would
hopped out out of the chair. There,

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grab graber roller had and you can
make enough appointment with you can because

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you see it's good insurance. I
mean i'd got that. Okay, you

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know what, Jeff, I I
really need to get onto the next patient

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here, so I really really like
it if if you'd leave please, well

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don't see how that didn't you chairs
yet? Oh it's hot. Well that

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that's that's my next patient time.
I actually he I think he's he's in

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a lot of pain. It just
sounds like it from his voice. Took

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good the examined and because of the
wiggle truth cool, Oh, Jeff jaff

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every day is a struggle down on
his luck, Cobra say, I said,

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And hope he doesn't forget his bowler. That or not, it's most

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of his charm. It's how he
gets most of the ladies, most of

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the birds. Hey, everybody,
I'm doing for I'm David Stecco. You

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caught me sipping. I still love
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we we got a good one for

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Thank you for listening right, thank
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I don't feel like we ever say
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you know what me being the giant
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around to doing last episode. Thank
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to Evans, to Dathan Kapaser and
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Bach, to my girlfriend, and
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So I never just I didn't say
that last time. So Mart, that's

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a very good point. It's on
me too. Yeah, So we're dicks

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and we're sorry and thank you.
And now you guys you're in for a

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treat. We're talking about the business
plot. When Flora first said that to

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me, I just thought that it
was like some New World order, like

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skull and bones kind of thing that
and then when he did his research he

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found out it was some new world
kind of thing. But this is a

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this is an extraordinarily interesting thing I'd
never heard of, and it is a

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real piece of American history with some
with some mystery, with some unknown to

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it. Yeah, some conspiracy,
a lot of conspiracy. It's a lot

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of expiracy. Yeah, it's a
conspiracy. But also it's a conspiracy with

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tangible records in the National archives like
this. This is something that Congress had

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to do deal with and plausible deniabilities. Right, So let's let's kick this

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whole thing off. Doo doo doo
doo dateline a hundred years ago. World

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War One sucks for everybody. Hundreds
of thousands of American soldiers return home from

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the front only to find most things
suck. Things are all right for a

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little while, until you know the
interests that'd be decide to pull a fast

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one on good old Joe blister foot. Yeah, exactly. There was.

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There was this problem and this is
there's there's kind of a lot of set

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up to this, and it's important, so bear with us. But unfortunately

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you're going to learn something. Um. So, right after World War One,

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all of these soldiers come home and
the initial standing agreement was you're mustering

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out, you got sixty dollars and
a train ticket home. And all of

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these soldiers coming back. You know, the America had had filled these these

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jobs. When they all left,
they had a really hard time finding employment.

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The economy was awash with labor and
we didn't have the enough jobs for

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these people. And sixty dollars in
a train ticket not enough. And so

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the veterans started a group together.
They petitioned the government to say, hey,

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come on, you know, he
lamma about a little sum. Pretty

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effort there, like they're trying to
get something because they wanted a pension,

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right, Yeah, they wanted a
pension. They wanted the government to say,

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yeah, I'll take care of you
because you hung it all out on

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the line in one of the ugliest
wars. It's the biggest. There's a

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war so big they named it after
the world, well the World, and

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at the time it was just called
the Great War. Yeah, they didn't

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think anything would surpass it. Human
ingenuity trials again, So they came back,

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they petitioned the government and the government. M head and Hod went back

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and forth and said, finally,
and this is the Herbert Hoover administration under

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which most everything went to crap.
He was the president. He was nice.

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He was the president after burned it
like those soldiers got burned. All

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they came home well burned by the
government, government, not Mustard gas.

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Come on, man, I'm not
a monster. So Herbert Herbert Hoover took

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over after Woodrow Wilson, who and
I thank Ken Height for this really turned

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me on to what a complete toll. Wondrow Wilson was turned America into a

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very terrifying place for a while with
each neighborhood had an American activities all then

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he encouraged neighbors to watch each other
for Unamerican activities. Kind of a sketchy

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time. Also, you had problems
with uh. This is not particularly Germane

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to this, but uh. Nineteen
eighteen Spanish flu outbreak. The government knew

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that this disease was out there,
but they still said, oh no,

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no, have war bond parades.
We need those war bonds, even though

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knowing that that this flu would spread. When everyone came cluster everyone together in

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a very tight space and here in
Chicago that was a particularly big problem,

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you know. So, Um anyway, so Herbert Hoover just carries the torch

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for these these these bad programs.
But he was also a big friend to

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uh the capitalists, yea, very
much in their pocket. A lot of

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the military excursions in up two World
War one. Uh and even after we're

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the US's foreign policy was really um
pushing individual corporations interests um as a matter

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of fact. Uh, well we'll
get we'll get to this. But one

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of the main characters in this this
story, this episode, major General Smedley

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Butler, Smedley Smedley. He's not
a villain, No, not at all.

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He actually went to China as a
Marina United States Marine to protect to

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standard oil outpost. Yeah, for
the Boxer rebellion. Yeah. So so

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these kind of a lot of weird
things happening, a lot of stuff.

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And don't forget. In nineteen thirteen, speaking of corporate interests, the Federal

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Reserve was created yep, which I
actually almost suggested as a show topic for

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this week. I didn't tell you
this, but I wanted to have more

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time to do research on it.
Yeah, maybe we will. There's I

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definitely want to do a whole episode
on the creation of the Federal Reserve and

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all the all the stuff that goes
along with that, because there's a lot

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of allegations, implications, and other
things that ran with nation. Whenever there's

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something with that much money in determining
economic you know, futures, that's a

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lot of people think that that was
that's has spelled the end of America for

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the people people. And I would
count to that by saying, it's the

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it's the feed is the reason why
the United States has come out of the

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recession faster than any other country on
the planet has because of a unified federal

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reserve system. It's uh, there's
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I think we should do that something
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being, a lot of stuff going
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to the United States, they want
a better deal. They're they're like,

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come on, man, we deserved
like this old deal, right, I

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didn't even mean to do that.
And you're like, are they right?

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So, uh, the Hoover administration
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They say, oh, you know
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heroes and you deserve something better.
How about a thousand dollars US bond payable

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in twenty years. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's the fine print.

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Yeah. Everyone's like, oh that
sounds good. I'm sorry what well,

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yeah, you want a thousand dollars
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And I it was twenty five,
nineteen twenty five. I think that

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that was. Yeah, it was
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Act. Jesus, what's the acronym
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the ww ACA w Yeah. So
all these soldiers are like, that's great,

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but that's in the but also twenty
years in the damn future. Come

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on, man, we need money
now. None of us can afford food

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now, none of us will be
alive in twenty years. What are you

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going to do about that? So
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they started to converge on Washington.
They marched on Washington and they formed

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this this I mean it was the
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though some formal thing. But they
was called the Bonus Army. Yeah,

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because they were looking for their bonus. Yeah, there there. It was

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the bonus for having served in fucking
World War one, right, and so

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out of this, uh, some
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guys was Major General Smedley Butler.
He was a marine and like a Marines

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marine and he um, he lied
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sixteen. And he fought everywhere and
everyone. Yeah, he went to every

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action all over the world, South
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all over the place. And so
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detail a little later too. But
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have to go over So that kind
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what led up to this moment.
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and um gosh, it's it's it's
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about your public school experience, but
never got into twentieth century at all with

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with my American history. Oh no. And here's the thing, like this

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part of history is so rarely really
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We're just in the war and it's
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and then there's yeah, then there's
the Depression and then World War two,

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Like there's these big points that get
it. But this is a fascinating

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section. And I gosh, I
wish Ken Height was here because man,

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that man knows history backwards and forwards. Um, all of the tiny little

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things that coalesce into this event.
Um. And mostly this is a really

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interesting study in the influence of economics
on politics, political science. Yeah,

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and how all these things are intermixed. It's just a great thing. Oh

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yeah. And so what we're going
to tell you tonight today, tomorrow to

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morning the business plot. We're gonna
tell you what it is, who was

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involved with it, did it really
happen? Yeah? And what maybe maybe

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we'll get into some like what would
have happened if it was successful or you

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know, yeah, what if here's
a here's a general overview of what's going

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on. Then, Um, now
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that, now that we have literally
law, an army of disgruntled veterans MPEd

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around the capitol. Yeah. In
nineteen thirty three, an apparent coup to

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overthrow the administration of Franklin Delano Roosevelt
was set in motion by a shadowy cabal

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of wealthy businessmen. What ever,
heard of that The aim of the plot

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was to install a state of fascism
quote, to save the nation from the

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communists who want to tear it down
and wreck all that we have built in

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America. End quote. Now here's
a weird thing for your historical ven diagram.

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And at this time, Benito Mussolini
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by most people's accounts, killing it. He has got their industry up

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and running. He is actually people
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guy. Look at what he's doing
with Italy. What a brilliant guy.

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Yeah, this is what we should
be doing people, right. And you

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know who else is a real rising
star? Yeah? Some a hitler,

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right, I don't know, but
I like the cut of his jib.

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And that's that's a part of history
that people forget that on their on their

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rise up, these people are organizing
their nations, nations that were devastated by

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war. Germany in particular, disenfranchise
left just to burn. No one cared

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about it after the war. And
these these guys, these charismatic leaders,

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they they get these countries back on
their feet, only to then drive them

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back to their knees. We haven't
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this at this point in history,
people there's there's and I'm not saying everyone,

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nothing's absolute, but there are a
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of the capitalist persuasion, are saying, Man, that guy over there,

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he's really onto something, he's really
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of that juice and and the other
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to this nineteen twenty nine Black Tuesday, the crash of the stock market that

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you know, of course, you
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know, besides people losing everything that
they own, right and and jumping from

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buildings, it sends the country spiraling
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the Great Great Depression. Just a
horrible time. And then nobody was having

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fun with it. Then to top
it all off, of course there's prohibition

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going on. So you can't even
drink your problems away. There's nothing good

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happening. The middle of America turned
into a huge pile of dusty shit.

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Ye. The only thing that would
grow was the grapes of wrath and grow

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the so so America is just stagnant, if not just completely fallen on its

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ass. Uh. The rich industrialists
and Wall Street fat cats, they were

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scaredhess of FDR. Yeah, here
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idea for all these social programs,
because I mean, America is reeling.

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We're fifty years out from the Civil
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it's it's been a it's been a
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of of rebuilding and then the World
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you know what I'm we're let's let's
try something like we've got to change what

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we're doing. Yeah, and that's
where that so he launches this sweeping number

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of reforms that we now refer to
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and and the rich, the elite, who were fine during this time.

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By the way, they had already
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will come up in a later episode
if we do the Federal Reserve. There's

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a whole thought that they orchestrated the
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the last minute, caused the crash, and then sat pretty while America burned.

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So anyways, they were fine during
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scared when when the what the social
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he comes in. He was poised
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as a massive redistribution of wealth from
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this goal, they sought to recruit
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a popular and influential veteran and all
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come back to him in a little
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five hundred thousand veterans to march on
Washington and ask nicely if President Roosevelt would

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pretend to become sick and let Butler
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bidding of Wall Street. And if
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Butler's army and executed. And then
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charge, and he, you know, might curiously reverse all of FDR's changes.

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Yeah. Yeah. However, Butler
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a hearing to be convened by the
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medals of honor, his distinguished service
career, the fact that he almost ended

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up running the entire Marine Corps,
that he is a true patriot in that

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he is willing to say I don't
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what we shouldn't be doing, but
I love my country and I'm not going

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to let it burn. Yeah,
not going to let it be taken over

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by a bunch of ass hats,
right, and that looking for a buck.

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Right. Their mistake was thinking that
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government on behalf of the Bonus Army, oh well, this guy hates the

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government. He'd love to see it
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but for stupid reasons that don't involve
money. Though the apparent coup ended there,

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and the hearing found Butler's story to
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convicted of any crimes, and soon
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mean, they even went so far
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of the most prominent people, amongst
which JP Morgan. Yeah, they redacted

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them from the official record and said, oh, well, those names are

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hearsay. But these other names,
these lesser people, Yeah, we'll put

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them in the record. Yeah,
no more plotting against the president and knock

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it off. So we we've told
you about how we got to disappoint a

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mayor was embroiled. In the Great
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capitalism was a failure and even democracy
was a bust. That's how that's how

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depressed people were in the Great Depression. Well, i mean, look at

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I mean, we were at that
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better than one hundred and fifty years
old. We've already had a civil war.

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thing. You know, we're still
acquiring land, there's still stuff happening in

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the West, and we're we're still
duking it out for just the simple sovereignty

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of the nation. And it's not
going well. Yeah, it's it's it's

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rough. So some people wanted a
dictator to straighten things out, and other

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forms of government began to look a
little better than what was going on.

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This included fascism, communism for some
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popular and communism always popular in industrial
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Sinclair's The Jungle. You know,
it gets you hooked because there's people in

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the meat products. There's terrifying stories. Uh. As a matter of fact,

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fun anecdote, when I moved to
Chicago, I didn't know a single

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person here, So you cooked.
So I cooked people in nath them.

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And the only book that I read
as far as research was The Jungle.

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I moved out here and read The
Jungle, which is just it's a if

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you hadn't read it, it's it's
a very important work from the nineteen twenties

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by Upton Sinclair, and it was
this sort of scathing expose on the Chicago

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meat packing industry, how the whole
city was like this running graft of bringing

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in immigrants into Chicago instantly fleeced them
of all their money. They would work

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in these these these horrifying conditions in
the stockyards and his butcher's they and then

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the minute they were broken or would
die, they would kick right back out

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again. And it was it was
just a just a rough, brutal system.

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last a big chunk of the book
are just these giant communist and socialist screes.

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It's always like he writes it.
Oh, and then the gentleman came

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in and in a clear voice said, twelve pages later, I mean like

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it was. It was. You
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a very popularist because people were treated
so badly that communism sounded like a great

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idea. Yeah, no one heard
Yakov Smirnov yet, so they'd had no

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idea. But to a lot of
people, communism was the devil. Yeah.

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Still, and now keep in mind
some of these these forms of government

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were still new and not full of
atrocities that would later emerge. And like

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you said, the Italian dictator Benito
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dealing with unions, with social unrest
and getting Italy's economy up and running again,

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if only at the point of a
gun. Right. In my research,

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I didn't see, you know,
it just said that they were very

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people who were like, oh,
look at all he's doing great. I

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don't know if they were willfully ignoring
the other practices. Maybe at this point

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they were unaware of them. I
don't know, probably unaware. Yeah,

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yeah, I have no idea which
way that went. But but it was

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just, yeah, it was a
weird, a weird time for that.

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Yeah. And then when Roosevelt took
office in thirty three, he instituted what

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he called the First hundred Days yep, or the First Hildo, the First

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Hildo, which was an economic program
aimed at stimulating the economy, which,

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by the way, I think every
president thereafter has been expected to pull some

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sort of damn miracle of the first
hundred days. It's never happened again than

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that. Before they even take office, they're blamed. But this included such

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things as the Glass Stiegel Act,
the establishment of a glass ceiling with an

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eagle paint at all ye, the
Civilian Conservation Corps, and um. He

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ended prohibition and helped legislation to relieve
mortgage burden and unemployment. And also a

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very important thing, he got America
off the gold standard. I think we

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have a I think we have an
audio clip of that speech. It's time

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America to work hard and play hard. America's need jobs and be as to

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drink all on those jobs. That's
all right. So yeah, so he

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gets us off the gold standard,
and that that right there is what really

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paints the target on him. Yeah, thing about the gold standard. Now,

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the England had already abandoned the gold
standard a few years before. Yeah,

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you know what this did economically was
further hurt the US because the without

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gold underpinning the value of the dollar, it could fluctuate and real quick.

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The gold standard means that one dollar
is equal to so many ounce parts of

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an ounce of a of gold.
So maybe like twenty dollars equals one ounce

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of gold, one dollar equals point
The exact conversion was one dollar one was

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00:31:32.119 --> 00:31:36.640
equal to an amount of gold equal
to one point six seven dollars. Okay.

406
00:31:37.039 --> 00:31:41.359
Now, the problem with this is
that you can you can pull a

407
00:31:41.480 --> 00:31:47.920
very easy slide of hand because there's
tons and tons and you the US contracts

408
00:31:48.319 --> 00:31:51.079
had these. This gold underpinning was
part of mortgages, it was part of

409
00:31:51.119 --> 00:31:56.039
business loans, that that gold was
currency. You could go to the bank

410
00:31:56.480 --> 00:32:02.519
with your dollar bill and say I
want this six changed for the gold that

411
00:32:02.599 --> 00:32:07.640
it's worth now and I don't understand
this part. It's and it was kind

412
00:32:07.640 --> 00:32:10.319
of outside of the scope of this. But so the conversion was one US

413
00:32:10.400 --> 00:32:14.920
dollar was equal to one point six
seven dollars. That they called a gold

414
00:32:15.000 --> 00:32:20.000
dollar. And this is a horrible
situation because it means that a bank,

415
00:32:20.319 --> 00:32:22.720
because gold is written into your mortgage, can say, oh, yeah,

416
00:32:22.839 --> 00:32:30.039
that that ten thousand dollars that we
lent you, now you owe us sixteen

417
00:32:30.119 --> 00:32:32.279
thousand, seven hundred dollars. We
want you to pay that to us in

418
00:32:32.359 --> 00:32:37.039
gold. And it can go both
ways, and it's it was this this

419
00:32:37.279 --> 00:32:40.400
very tricky thing. So getting off
the gold standard meant that the British dollar,

420
00:32:40.559 --> 00:32:45.519
actually the British sterling pound sterling was
when it was when they remove the

421
00:32:45.599 --> 00:32:50.599
gold standard, it actually fell in
value. Now the problem with this is

422
00:32:50.880 --> 00:32:54.680
that means that the pound is weak
against the dollar and Britain buys less from

423
00:32:54.680 --> 00:32:59.240
the US, so now we don't
have as many exports. Further drives us

424
00:32:59.279 --> 00:33:02.559
into trouble. And they didn't expect
it to get better. They were they

425
00:33:02.680 --> 00:33:06.759
at that point. They thought it
might get worse. And so all these

426
00:33:06.799 --> 00:33:13.160
companies are withholding their orders waiting for
the pound sterling to gain values so they

427
00:33:13.200 --> 00:33:15.559
don't get robbed on it. They
thought, oh, in the future it'll

428
00:33:15.599 --> 00:33:19.000
get better, so we'll wait for
now. While this happens, the US

429
00:33:19.079 --> 00:33:24.119
economically is starving, right, so
FDR says, effort, we're off the

430
00:33:24.200 --> 00:33:30.839
gold standard. He manages and it
was extraordinarily controversial, went to the Supreme

431
00:33:30.960 --> 00:33:37.640
Court, narrowly passes the Supreme Court
because he by executive order, stripped out

432
00:33:37.799 --> 00:33:42.079
the gold clause on every contract,
nullified it across the land with one maneuver,

433
00:33:42.839 --> 00:33:47.200
which was tearing off one hell of
a band aid. And so suddenly

434
00:33:47.920 --> 00:33:53.880
all these these capitalists who didn't give
a what happened economically because they had their

435
00:33:53.920 --> 00:33:58.359
money and they knew how much it
was worth, all of a sudden,

436
00:33:58.519 --> 00:34:00.359
oh my god, we could turn
poor like anybody else. The dollar could

437
00:34:00.359 --> 00:34:05.440
devalue, it could it could inflate
you. There's all these problems that could

438
00:34:05.720 --> 00:34:08.559
they could affect their money. Now, yeah, when you come off the

439
00:34:09.079 --> 00:34:17.960
gold standard, gold is anything can
happen. It's a man held the gold

440
00:34:19.119 --> 00:34:24.760
backed that's different, gold backed up
the dollars, so you know, they

441
00:34:24.920 --> 00:34:30.119
you can't print more money than the
gold that you have in reserve, right,

442
00:34:30.719 --> 00:34:36.760
which is a great way to regulate
everything. But with all this economic

443
00:34:36.840 --> 00:34:40.559
turmoil going on, you take yourself
off the gold standard, then you've got

444
00:34:42.880 --> 00:34:46.760
fiat currency, which is just it's
a fancy way of saying made up currency.

445
00:34:46.840 --> 00:34:51.760
You can print all the money you
want. It's we all agree what

446
00:34:51.920 --> 00:34:54.119
it's worth, right, That's why
it's worth anything. It's a currency based

447
00:34:54.199 --> 00:35:00.960
on faith, which means if you're
in trouble and every everybody this, oh,

448
00:35:00.320 --> 00:35:04.440
I'll print more money. But the
problem is you print more money,

449
00:35:04.480 --> 00:35:07.280
that means each individual piece of money
is worth less. And that is the

450
00:35:07.360 --> 00:35:10.960
definition of inflation. That's why I
think it was a Germany at one point

451
00:35:12.079 --> 00:35:16.239
they were wallpapering their apartments with money. It was cheaper than any other paper

452
00:35:16.320 --> 00:35:22.079
and that they could get at the
time. It means every virtually every economy

453
00:35:22.199 --> 00:35:24.079
on the planet has had to deal
with us to some degree another. And

454
00:35:24.159 --> 00:35:30.639
sometimes it's crazy. I think that
there's is it. Maybe Zambia or Tanzania

455
00:35:31.159 --> 00:35:37.239
has large has pretty much they have
like twenty trillion dollars bills because it's just

456
00:35:37.360 --> 00:35:43.960
gotten. It's just ridiculous, like
why even But but that happens. Inflation

457
00:35:44.039 --> 00:35:45.719
can get to be very dangerous.
It can be a huge problem. There's

458
00:35:45.719 --> 00:35:52.800
actually a really great NPR series about
Brazil in the nineties into eighties working through

459
00:35:52.880 --> 00:35:57.199
this this problem and how they fixed
it. U But well, again,

460
00:35:57.480 --> 00:36:04.320
this is getting Yeah, this is
fart. Note fart sounds well wow,

461
00:36:05.000 --> 00:36:12.639
drive fus what there we go.
We're back in the saddle. So that's

462
00:36:12.679 --> 00:36:15.239
what's going on. And this is
this scared everybody. Yeah, that that

463
00:36:15.480 --> 00:36:19.880
was rich. What it boils down
to is or coming off the gold standard.

464
00:36:20.360 --> 00:36:23.719
Finally gave the hardcore capitalist a genuine
like Okay, no, now that's

465
00:36:23.800 --> 00:36:28.840
that's too far. We have got
to do something about This helps the economy

466
00:36:29.199 --> 00:36:34.679
in the short term. Uh.
Scares the capitalists like crazy. They saw

467
00:36:34.719 --> 00:36:44.000
it as anything from socialism or communism
to even what some considered a Jewish Zionist

468
00:36:44.079 --> 00:36:49.000
plot. Right, there was definitely
a good amount of simmering racism to throw

469
00:36:49.079 --> 00:36:52.079
into the pot. Yeah, they
hated FDR got a lot of hate from

470
00:36:52.119 --> 00:36:58.159
both sides, even a burther conspiracy
in there. I who love him from

471
00:36:58.239 --> 00:37:02.360
his Dutch origins, Well, no
one trusts the Dutch. And keep in

472
00:37:02.480 --> 00:37:09.239
mind Henry Ford had written, you
know, a decade before the International jew

473
00:37:09.440 --> 00:37:14.880
I mean there was there was a
fair amount of anti Semitism already simmering an

474
00:37:14.920 --> 00:37:21.039
industrialist and capitalist America. Yeah,
and so when when everyone gets threatened at

475
00:37:21.079 --> 00:37:23.559
this point, we're no better than
Germany, you know, like like when

476
00:37:23.639 --> 00:37:28.719
when there's a problem, when things
start getting scary, find those guys.

477
00:37:29.239 --> 00:37:32.119
Blame them, Yeah, blame somebody
else. Now we we've given you your

478
00:37:32.320 --> 00:37:37.280
economic lesson for today. But the
bell has rung and it's time to go

479
00:37:37.320 --> 00:37:45.639
to the next class. And the
next class is um health. Miss strong

480
00:37:45.880 --> 00:37:52.400
bus teaching. Oh dude, she's
so hot the other day though, I

481
00:37:52.480 --> 00:37:55.480
was like, I was in there
after class. I think I think I'm

482
00:37:55.480 --> 00:37:59.079
gonna ask you to problem. I
think it'd work. I think it would

483
00:37:59.119 --> 00:38:02.280
work so cool. Miss strong boss
would never go to prom with you.

484
00:38:02.280 --> 00:38:07.079
You say that now, dude,
say that now. But she's into me.

485
00:38:07.400 --> 00:38:12.760
It's all on your head, bro, it's on your head. Start

486
00:38:13.679 --> 00:38:21.199
broum. No, we're going to
political science class. Oh god, sorry,

487
00:38:21.280 --> 00:38:24.920
we're gonna I want to talk about
forms. Mister Nursman's a dick Nursman.

488
00:38:27.440 --> 00:38:35.320
Adam Nursman is Yeah, good dog
out Nurstman. I want to talk

489
00:38:35.320 --> 00:38:39.639
about forms of government because it's something
that people throw around. These are terms

490
00:38:39.719 --> 00:38:46.000
people throw around. I never got
the the boring pleasure of having it explained

491
00:38:46.039 --> 00:38:52.800
to me. You didn't know how
Doc Lynn felt. Then go to back

492
00:38:52.840 --> 00:38:54.920
at good old Shine Mountain High School, it was one of the best.

493
00:38:55.440 --> 00:39:01.679
Well, good on him. I'm
gonna throw out out some very rudimentary definitions

494
00:39:01.800 --> 00:39:08.159
for some of the high rollers in
the government. Terms that we're talking about.

495
00:39:08.480 --> 00:39:14.039
When all the world's governments played baccarat, the only four allowed into the

496
00:39:14.159 --> 00:39:17.239
ivory room. Wow, the ivory
Yeah. Well, first of all,

497
00:39:17.320 --> 00:39:22.360
let's talk. Let's let's tell about
democracy. That's something we've heard of it

498
00:39:22.039 --> 00:39:27.960
I think heard of, thanks Obama. Democracy. Democracy is funny. It

499
00:39:28.079 --> 00:39:31.960
refers to a broad range of types
of government based on the consent of the

500
00:39:32.119 --> 00:39:37.880
governed. Yep, we have to
vote things into happening. The majority rules.

501
00:39:37.039 --> 00:39:42.239
Yeah, like a mob, an
angry, angry mob. It's disinterested

502
00:39:42.280 --> 00:39:45.519
in voicing its opinion once every four
years? Is it so fucking hard even

503
00:39:45.599 --> 00:39:52.559
every two years? Come on?
Now, there's also a republic, which

504
00:39:52.760 --> 00:39:59.280
is government that's ruled by elected leaders
and run according to law. What we

505
00:40:00.360 --> 00:40:05.360
what we're told we live in is
a democratic republic. Yeah. So we

506
00:40:05.599 --> 00:40:12.039
we have elected leaders um that are
elected by consent of the government and supposedly

507
00:40:12.199 --> 00:40:16.400
holding the interests of those constituents.
So the government is for the people and

508
00:40:16.760 --> 00:40:20.800
by the people. Well, would
you say then that we have a Democratic

509
00:40:20.880 --> 00:40:25.480
People's Republic here in the US.
Yeah, there's a there's another Democratic People's

510
00:40:25.519 --> 00:40:30.280
Republic. Yeah, it's over in
Africa. It's in North Korea. Well,

511
00:40:30.320 --> 00:40:35.559
well there's that too, the DPRK, and I'm thinking of Congo.

512
00:40:36.079 --> 00:40:42.280
Oh see, all the great countries
have this incommon. That's probably that's probably

513
00:40:42.280 --> 00:40:46.079
a whole different subset. Like there. When I was looking at democracy,

514
00:40:46.159 --> 00:40:49.880
it was like, here's here's an
off shoot. Here's an off shoot,

515
00:40:49.880 --> 00:40:52.199
here's an off shoot. And you'll
find that with all these So you're saying

516
00:40:52.239 --> 00:40:58.960
that Korea doesn't have a democracy.
Oh, you know, everybody voted for

517
00:40:59.400 --> 00:41:04.000
Kim jung Yeah, it's because he's
the first man on the moon. Yeah,

518
00:41:04.679 --> 00:41:08.840
is mandatory to vote Kim chungoon.
Therefore Kim Jungoon glorious leader. Oh

519
00:41:08.960 --> 00:41:14.880
now we're going to get hacked nat
NORP. Same thing I didn't. I

520
00:41:14.960 --> 00:41:20.679
didn't make a but joker. Oh
now, let's talk about fascism. This

521
00:41:20.880 --> 00:41:28.280
is rule by a totalitarian and corporatist
government. Uh. Nazism is just the

522
00:41:28.400 --> 00:41:31.440
same thing as fascism, except there's
a stronger emphasis on race. Yep,

523
00:41:31.920 --> 00:41:39.840
it's fascism racist. Yeah, it's
it's racism. M h m. How

524
00:41:39.880 --> 00:41:47.599
about communism. Communism is a socioeconomic
system based on the common ownership of the

525
00:41:47.760 --> 00:41:52.400
means of production, with the absence
of social classes, money and government rule.

526
00:41:52.639 --> 00:41:59.719
Yeah, everyone contributes and everyone benefits. Has that ever worked? It's

527
00:42:00.199 --> 00:42:04.760
it works in theory. The problem
is that it's meant to govern humans,

528
00:42:05.159 --> 00:42:12.159
Yeah, who are inherently greed day
week Biggs the karaky from bored in things

529
00:42:15.440 --> 00:42:20.280
money. It's called the animal farm
people read it, George orwell, milk

530
00:42:20.360 --> 00:42:22.880
and apples, man, it's all
about milk and apples pilled that windmill.

531
00:42:23.679 --> 00:42:30.760
Um, I'm sounding well read tonight. You really are hand in hand.

532
00:42:30.039 --> 00:42:37.840
There's socialism which is much like communism, and some people even posture that it's

533
00:42:37.920 --> 00:42:44.079
it comes before communism, but it's
focused on economics and not become to America

534
00:42:44.199 --> 00:42:52.480
before Obama. It's so funny,
how because even in the thirties there,

535
00:42:52.480 --> 00:42:54.719
in the late twenties, early thirties, it was like they had a socialist

536
00:42:54.800 --> 00:43:02.519
party like it wasn't it wasn't as
hated as communists or I don't think which

537
00:43:02.639 --> 00:43:08.000
is funny. A quick communist versus
socialist? How do you tell the difference?

538
00:43:08.119 --> 00:43:10.800
It all sounds the same well,
a couple things. There are a

539
00:43:10.880 --> 00:43:17.559
lot of differences actually that it's like
reading the VCR manual though right to find

540
00:43:17.599 --> 00:43:20.760
the differences, well, it's pretty
easy. All you have to do is

541
00:43:21.559 --> 00:43:24.920
read O bomb my care. That's
it. I'm done making stupid jokes.

542
00:43:25.719 --> 00:43:31.920
For communism, it's from each according
to ability, to each according to needs.

543
00:43:32.519 --> 00:43:36.519
Everyone gets to do what they're good
at and everyone gets what they need.

544
00:43:36.840 --> 00:43:40.760
Right. Socialism is from each according
to ability, to each according to

545
00:43:40.920 --> 00:43:45.480
contribution. So whatever you put into
it, you get out of it.

546
00:43:45.679 --> 00:43:50.320
Yeah. Yeah. Also in communism, also known as the lazy clause.

547
00:43:50.639 --> 00:43:52.440
I don't get that though. If
you don't put into it, you don't

548
00:43:52.440 --> 00:43:55.760
get out of it. How's that
a lazy clause? Are you saying?

549
00:43:55.800 --> 00:44:00.559
That is, if you're lazy,
you don't get right. Yeah, it's

550
00:44:00.800 --> 00:44:04.320
the clause that cures that because there's
some guy in communism going, so you

551
00:44:04.320 --> 00:44:07.039
guys are just gonna take care of
everybody, right, right? That,

552
00:44:07.199 --> 00:44:10.320
Well, that's what people try to
make you think socialism is. Right.

553
00:44:12.760 --> 00:44:15.840
I feel like this is it's a
very slippery slope because we're we're not um

554
00:44:16.960 --> 00:44:22.840
political scienceman, we're not a commissman. But we we want to know more

555
00:44:22.840 --> 00:44:27.239
about this. We're trying to get
some information out there. Might we might

556
00:44:27.280 --> 00:44:30.280
be slenderman. I'm not a slenderman
me neither. I've been running somebo but

557
00:44:32.920 --> 00:44:38.119
to stretch my arms and I take
your soul. We do take children though.

558
00:44:38.880 --> 00:44:46.039
So um lots more on communism versus
socialism. If you type in communism

559
00:44:46.159 --> 00:44:51.360
versus socialism, a lot of websites
will have little charts that are like,

560
00:44:51.880 --> 00:44:54.239
here's how they differ, and you'll
probably also get an epic rack battle from

561
00:44:54.320 --> 00:45:00.199
history. I'll tell you what though. They they did one of all the

562
00:45:00.320 --> 00:45:04.639
Russian rulers. It was like,
oh, i'd rescute and versus um Stalin

563
00:45:04.760 --> 00:45:07.840
or something. I don't know,
but they have a bunch of them.

564
00:45:07.000 --> 00:45:10.159
Is one of one of the best
ones they've done. It was. But

565
00:45:10.440 --> 00:45:15.960
anyway, that's a that's a little
forms of government rant for you. So

566
00:45:15.119 --> 00:45:19.280
now you've got that in your pocket, tell your friends about it. Yeah.

567
00:45:19.519 --> 00:45:22.360
So so the plot. So the
plot. A military coup was deemed

568
00:45:22.440 --> 00:45:29.400
to be the answer to these rich
people's fears, and a group of mergowealthy

569
00:45:29.480 --> 00:45:34.119
men met in private in New York
to plan one at a place called the

570
00:45:34.320 --> 00:45:44.800
Medals Uh it was all to be
financed by leaders of industry, and heading

571
00:45:44.840 --> 00:45:52.639
it up was your friends at DuPont
and your friends at and including JP Morgan.

572
00:45:52.360 --> 00:45:57.079
I'm glad to see that JP Morgan
has at no point changed their perspective

573
00:45:57.199 --> 00:46:00.199
or their behavior, not at all. Some of the high rollers in this

574
00:46:00.960 --> 00:46:07.400
Urine DuPont. There was, I
guess a guy named urinee Irene. Sure,

575
00:46:07.719 --> 00:46:09.119
I don't know, it's dumb.
You're in, You're in, You're

576
00:46:09.199 --> 00:46:14.360
in Mouth DuPont. This was a
right wing chemical industrialist and founder of the

577
00:46:14.360 --> 00:46:19.960
American Liberty League, which will come
up in a second. The organization assigned

578
00:46:20.000 --> 00:46:22.880
to execute the plot. And you've
got Grayson Murphy, director of good Year,

579
00:46:24.039 --> 00:46:28.840
William Doyle who was a former state
commander of the American Legion and a

580
00:46:28.960 --> 00:46:36.239
central plotter, John Davis, former
Democratic presidential candidate and senior attorney for JP

581
00:46:36.400 --> 00:46:40.119
Morgan. Who Al Smith, who's
just a good guy, is my neighbor.

582
00:46:40.440 --> 00:46:43.800
I try to include him on these
things. You know, he doesn't

583
00:46:43.800 --> 00:46:45.400
get out of the house much.
Oh No, his wife, you know,

584
00:46:45.639 --> 00:46:49.440
she's keeps him on a short leash. But you know he likes to

585
00:46:49.480 --> 00:46:51.400
get out with the boys. You
know, a way and say he buys

586
00:46:51.440 --> 00:46:53.480
me as a lot, so he's
a nice guy. This Al Smith was

587
00:46:53.639 --> 00:47:01.679
Roosevelt's apparent bitter political foe from New
York extraordinary better former governor of New York

588
00:47:01.719 --> 00:47:06.159
and co director of the American Liberty
League. It's it's really funny, how

589
00:47:06.280 --> 00:47:10.880
like, well, Fdr beat me. Now, I want to Instruburn institute

590
00:47:10.920 --> 00:47:16.199
a coup. Yeah. John J. Rascob a high ranking DuPont officer and

591
00:47:16.320 --> 00:47:21.880
former chairman of the Democratic Party.
It's his own party plotting against him.

592
00:47:22.280 --> 00:47:28.400
In later decades, Rascob would become
a Knight of Malta, which was a

593
00:47:28.599 --> 00:47:35.800
Roman Catholic religious order with a high
percentage of CIA spies. Apparently Robert Clark,

594
00:47:36.280 --> 00:47:42.599
one of Wall Streets just bankers and
stockbrokers. And then fellow by the

595
00:47:42.679 --> 00:47:47.840
name of Gerald McQuire, a bond
salesman for Robert Clark and a former commander

596
00:47:47.880 --> 00:47:54.199
of the Connecticut American Legion. Those
are your Mayhorr players in this. Now

597
00:47:54.920 --> 00:48:00.639
it was decided that the quote man
on the white Horse end quote would be

598
00:48:00.840 --> 00:48:07.159
Smedley Butler because he was a very
popular war vet and thought by this group

599
00:48:07.239 --> 00:48:10.840
to be easy to manipulate. Yeah, there was a few things that they

600
00:48:10.920 --> 00:48:15.840
thought they had levers on him.
I mean, he was extraordinarily popular because

601
00:48:15.320 --> 00:48:20.760
every veteran knew that he was a
soldier. Soldier, Yeah, he was

602
00:48:20.800 --> 00:48:25.119
fighting for them. He had also
recently been snubbed as it were. I

603
00:48:25.199 --> 00:48:29.199
mean, he was a soldier.
He wasn't a politician, but he was

604
00:48:29.320 --> 00:48:32.960
in line to be the next commandant
of the Marine Corps. One of his

605
00:48:34.440 --> 00:48:39.800
another guy who had a less experience, who was who hadn't done as much

606
00:48:40.679 --> 00:48:45.719
he was. There was even you
know, headlines things like this that that

607
00:48:45.880 --> 00:48:49.280
Butler was expected to take over the
Marine Corps. He did not get it.

608
00:48:49.440 --> 00:48:53.639
He said this this rival of his, didntting Fuller, who was a

609
00:48:53.800 --> 00:48:59.760
more politically savvy, more politically connected, less mouthie yep. And so he,

610
00:49:00.360 --> 00:49:02.239
you know, he took over.
At which and at which point um

611
00:49:02.880 --> 00:49:07.039
Smedley retired. He was like,
you know what, you guys, I'm

612
00:49:07.079 --> 00:49:10.000
just going to become a speaker,
which he did and did very well.

613
00:49:10.480 --> 00:49:19.039
And he traveled the country speaking about
veterans benefits, veterans rights and really holding

614
00:49:19.480 --> 00:49:22.800
a lot of shining a lot of
light on on like this is what the

615
00:49:22.880 --> 00:49:27.199
government has done. That's not fair, you know, these guys deserve more

616
00:49:27.440 --> 00:49:30.800
than they got. That's not that's
that's not the America that they fought for.

617
00:49:30.199 --> 00:49:37.400
Not not to mention being outspoken on
anti war sentiment and war profiteering.

618
00:49:37.639 --> 00:49:40.880
Yep. He didn't like the fact
that the United States military was being used

619
00:49:40.920 --> 00:49:45.440
to protect private business interests from other
countries. He thought they were I think

620
00:49:45.480 --> 00:49:51.360
he called them, uh uh glorified
police officers. Yeah. Yeah, and

621
00:49:51.679 --> 00:49:58.760
and Butler to give you an idea
of his time, his glory glory days.

622
00:49:59.239 --> 00:50:00.920
Uh. He was born in eighteen
eighty one. He died in nineteen

623
00:50:01.000 --> 00:50:06.039
forty. He was I mean,
like we've said in the Marines, he

624
00:50:06.159 --> 00:50:08.239
was a career marine. Yeah,
that was what he did. That's what

625
00:50:08.360 --> 00:50:15.559
he wanted to do. Nicknamed Old
Gimlet Eye, the Fighting Quaker, an

626
00:50:15.679 --> 00:50:21.199
old duckboard, although at this point
in history they had already repudiated duckboarding,

627
00:50:21.239 --> 00:50:23.960
and it was not done any longer. No, not after they took over

628
00:50:24.039 --> 00:50:36.519
a guantal, not after the Frank
and Duck incident. Sorry we said duck,

629
00:50:36.559 --> 00:50:38.679
and we need some more sounds in
this night. So how I feel

630
00:50:38.679 --> 00:50:43.800
about it. He was the most
decorated marine in US history, with sixteen

631
00:50:43.920 --> 00:50:47.440
medals, two Congressional medals, and
honor for separate actions. Yeah. The

632
00:50:47.519 --> 00:50:52.880
French even gave him a medal.
Oh, I love you, Smedley,

633
00:50:53.960 --> 00:51:01.320
Oh, Smedley, Smedley Darlington Butler. Nice. Yeah. He joined the

634
00:51:01.639 --> 00:51:05.480
Marines in eighteen ninety eight. Like
you said, he lied about his age

635
00:51:05.559 --> 00:51:10.639
to get in there, but he
wasn't very far away from seventeen anyways.

636
00:51:10.679 --> 00:51:15.400
He served until nineteen o eight when
he had a nervous breakdown and they gave

637
00:51:15.480 --> 00:51:21.719
him a nine month sick leave and
he just itched to get back into military

638
00:51:21.800 --> 00:51:25.400
service. Went back in nineteen o
nine, served till nineteen twenty four when

639
00:51:27.239 --> 00:51:34.360
he was asked to become the public
safety officer of Philadelphia because Philadelphia was apparently

640
00:51:35.280 --> 00:51:39.440
more corrupt than a bowl full of
wet geese. I'll support what you just

641
00:51:39.599 --> 00:51:44.360
said, thank you. So he
did this for a year. He had

642
00:51:44.639 --> 00:51:49.159
sort of like a like a contract
for a year. Was super corrupt,

643
00:51:49.559 --> 00:51:55.199
very like from the police down to
the hookers on the street. The city

644
00:51:55.360 --> 00:52:00.880
was not him. The city was
Yeah, and he like took a baseball

645
00:52:00.920 --> 00:52:04.039
bat to it. Now, this
was during, like we said, Prohibition,

646
00:52:04.599 --> 00:52:09.039
which was the time in America where
alcohol was unlawful the dark times.

647
00:52:09.320 --> 00:52:15.039
Yeah. Illegal. He was a
big proponent of prohibition. That's that's one

648
00:52:15.119 --> 00:52:21.280
strike against him. But I mean
he was a Quaker, so he fell

649
00:52:21.320 --> 00:52:24.559
in line um a fighting Quaker,
fighting Quaker. He was a He was

650
00:52:24.599 --> 00:52:31.559
a mascot. Listen to Pennsylvania Fighting
Quakers. Also a frequent contributor to the

651
00:52:32.239 --> 00:52:37.519
early letter writing campaign of blurry of
a furry, three free throws, florry

652
00:52:37.599 --> 00:52:44.480
free throws. When breaking up a
speakeasy, I always like to have a

653
00:52:44.559 --> 00:52:49.719
red barren pizza. A little elaborate. I just go with Max. But

654
00:52:49.840 --> 00:52:57.719
sure, so he kicked Philadelphia,
started getting it into shape. They asked

655
00:52:57.800 --> 00:53:00.679
him to stay on another year.
He stayed on another year year, and

656
00:53:00.800 --> 00:53:04.639
then when when two years was up, they wanted him to stay on another

657
00:53:04.719 --> 00:53:08.599
year. The President said no,
that's enough, send him back into service.

658
00:53:09.480 --> 00:53:16.119
And he defied, or he tried
to defy the mayor and the president

659
00:53:16.239 --> 00:53:22.639
and stay on to continue cleaning up
in Philadelphia. Well, everybody got pissed

660
00:53:22.679 --> 00:53:25.960
off at him, apparently, and
kicked him back into the Marines. I

661
00:53:27.000 --> 00:53:29.960
don't know, it's a weird it
was a marine. That's a weird marine

662
00:53:30.159 --> 00:53:34.159
part of his story. But anyway, he's In nineteen twenty six, he

663
00:53:34.280 --> 00:53:37.039
returned to service, served till nineteen
thirty one. Towards the end of his

664
00:53:37.159 --> 00:53:42.679
service, he started getting a little
jaded from the whole thing. In thirty

665
00:53:42.719 --> 00:53:50.039
one, he repeated gossip about Mussolini. Apparently Mussolini had run over a kid

666
00:53:50.480 --> 00:53:55.119
and everybody just sort of brushed it
under the rug. And he I heard

667
00:53:55.280 --> 00:54:05.920
Benito doesn't even wear under pants.
Bonito wears boots made of giraffes. Disgusting.

668
00:54:06.159 --> 00:54:10.039
Come on, come on, gros, there's plenty of girafts still left.

669
00:54:10.400 --> 00:54:14.199
We don't even have to worry about
it right now. But it's growth

670
00:54:14.800 --> 00:54:19.719
slippery slope. Anyway, the Italian
government got pissed off at him. Jesus,

671
00:54:20.159 --> 00:54:23.719
yeah, and they they bitched to
Herbert Hoover was clearly the most board

672
00:54:23.760 --> 00:54:30.960
government on earth, to President Hoover, and Hoover apparently didn't care for him

673
00:54:30.039 --> 00:54:35.280
and had him court martialed for it. Heard you were talking. Yeah,

674
00:54:36.960 --> 00:54:42.920
He apologized and then got away with
a reprimand so he didn't end up getting

675
00:54:42.960 --> 00:54:46.880
court martialed in the end because he
said him sway, you're an apple,

676
00:54:50.320 --> 00:54:57.440
I'm sorry you such a dicke.
In nineteen thirty the commandant of the Marine

677
00:54:57.480 --> 00:55:00.239
Corps had died, and Butler was, like you said, in line to

678
00:55:00.280 --> 00:55:02.719
replace him, but then was passed
over by this Ben Fuller. Uh.

679
00:55:02.800 --> 00:55:07.920
And that that just royally. Yeah, that was the last piece of cheese

680
00:55:07.000 --> 00:55:12.679
on his biscuit. Right. So
he requested retirement shortly after, and then

681
00:55:12.719 --> 00:55:19.119
he became this outspoken proponent of veterans
and then anti war sentiment and toured,

682
00:55:19.320 --> 00:55:23.519
lectured, lectured against fascism. Actually
and uh. And then he stood with

683
00:55:23.559 --> 00:55:28.320
the Bonus Army Army in nineteen thirty
two, which and that's what really kind

684
00:55:28.320 --> 00:55:31.159
of catapult him. This is this
leading figure of the Bonus Army, right,

685
00:55:31.400 --> 00:55:37.440
and I have a quick sound clip
of that. Yeah, take it

686
00:55:37.599 --> 00:55:45.519
from me. This is the greatest
demonstration of Americanism we've ever had, pure

687
00:55:45.599 --> 00:55:54.000
Americans willing to take this downright study, to keep every law. And why

688
00:55:54.079 --> 00:55:59.480
in the hell shouldn't My god,
that sounds at least eighty years old.

689
00:56:00.679 --> 00:56:07.519
He was a firecracker man. So
in nineteen thirty three, keep in mind

690
00:56:07.599 --> 00:56:13.239
the the Bonus Army had been run
out by Hoover and Douglas MacArthur. Yeah,

691
00:56:13.320 --> 00:56:16.559
he asked General Douglas MacArthur, who
everyone's heard of. And uh,

692
00:56:17.440 --> 00:56:22.880
Douglas MacArthur was supposed to just kind
of keep the peace. Douglas MacArthur said

693
00:56:22.559 --> 00:56:29.599
the piece, these hippies disobeyed a
direct order from the president and ran them

694
00:56:29.679 --> 00:56:32.960
the down. Yeah, rode in
with cavalry. Yeah, on horses killed

695
00:56:34.239 --> 00:56:39.559
seventeen I believe, burned their their
tents, their little Hooverville, their makeshift

696
00:56:39.639 --> 00:56:44.719
Hooverville. Yeah. He just was
like, nap you, I don't need

697
00:56:44.800 --> 00:56:46.480
your hippie talk. It's time for
me to do this. Yeah, which

698
00:56:46.599 --> 00:56:52.400
is nuts him being a military man. But in nineteen thirty three, Butler

699
00:56:52.480 --> 00:56:58.079
was approached by two men, Gerald
McGuire, a bond salesman and member of

700
00:56:58.159 --> 00:57:02.400
the Connecticut American Legion which I mentioned
before, and Bill Doyle, who was

701
00:57:02.440 --> 00:57:10.519
the commander of the Massachusetts American Legion
Veterans. McGuire claimed to represent the committee

702
00:57:10.599 --> 00:57:17.119
for a sound dollar Yeah, and
they wanted him to run for national commander

703
00:57:17.199 --> 00:57:22.840
of the American Legion, which at
the time, even by McGuire's own admission,

704
00:57:22.480 --> 00:57:27.760
was really just a bunch of strike
breakers. Right, he declined,

705
00:57:27.880 --> 00:57:31.280
which is to be which is which, which means functionally stooges of the capitalists.

706
00:57:31.440 --> 00:57:36.199
Yeah, they go in and beat
up people who are trying to get

707
00:57:36.280 --> 00:57:40.960
better working conditions, better pay.
Yeah, he declined, but McGuire kept

708
00:57:42.039 --> 00:57:49.440
coming back to him and eventually brought
along another veteran, this Robert Stirling Clark,

709
00:57:49.679 --> 00:57:54.800
who also mentioned before this rich bitch
army vet. He was the heir

710
00:57:54.920 --> 00:58:01.199
to the Singer corporation. Ye,
Singer being the sewing manufacturers and quite the

711
00:58:01.360 --> 00:58:08.559
aught Connoisseua, sure so he says. Yeah. In nineteen thirty four,

712
00:58:08.639 --> 00:58:15.320
McGuire put it bluntly to Butler.
Butler was to lead a new veterans organization

713
00:58:15.519 --> 00:58:19.360
in a coup against the president,
saying, quote, you know, the

714
00:58:19.440 --> 00:58:23.559
American people will swallow that we've got
the newspapers will start a campaign that the

715
00:58:23.679 --> 00:58:28.719
president's health is failing. Everyone can
tell that by looking at him, and

716
00:58:28.880 --> 00:58:32.039
the dumb American people will fall for
it. In a second quote, yeah,

717
00:58:32.960 --> 00:58:37.800
so he was supposed to take all
of these disenfranchised veterans, march them

718
00:58:37.800 --> 00:58:43.159
down. They would be armed,
paid for by the sponsors of this coup.

719
00:58:43.400 --> 00:58:47.519
Yeah. It was Remington Pistols,
which was a part of what de

720
00:58:47.679 --> 00:58:52.840
pont. Yeah, I think the
Pistols of freedom, the pistols of capital,

721
00:58:52.920 --> 00:58:55.800
this freedom, and yeah, it
was to take five hundred thousand soldiers

722
00:58:55.840 --> 00:59:01.239
down there or veterans down there,
march on Washington. And McGuire implied that

723
00:59:01.880 --> 00:59:08.719
his claims had the support of several
political leaders and bottomless financial backing. Which

724
00:59:09.280 --> 00:59:14.159
if that's true, it's true,
right, because if you've got the backing

725
00:59:14.199 --> 00:59:16.719
of JP More Morgan and DuPont and
right, yea, all these other ass

726
00:59:16.880 --> 00:59:22.320
hats, you you've got the financial
backing. They'd found the perfect soldier,

727
00:59:22.840 --> 00:59:30.400
but they didn't expect him to disobey
orders. This fall Dunn, dont dont

728
00:59:30.760 --> 00:59:42.840
Smedley dun du Butler, Dunn is
the whistle blower. It's been done,

729
00:59:43.079 --> 00:59:52.079
dude, dude. Smedley Butler is
Smedley. Smedley Butler as Smedley Butler in

730
00:59:52.159 --> 00:59:59.000
Smedley Butler. So so Smedley has
these meetings with these guys, right he

731
00:59:59.280 --> 01:00:04.559
um mc sure even proved that he
had cash resources, and he even predicted

732
01:00:04.639 --> 01:00:08.119
some personnel changes in the White House. So Butler believed him. Finger of

733
01:00:08.320 --> 01:00:14.360
the pose A Butler decided, you
know what, let's do this. I'll

734
01:00:14.360 --> 01:00:19.880
go along with it, all right, all right around he had a friend

735
01:00:19.960 --> 01:00:25.320
come over and join in named Paul
Comeley. Fringe asterisk not a portn star.

736
01:00:28.639 --> 01:00:31.519
Two asterisks should be a portn star
could be calmly, I guess,

737
01:00:32.119 --> 01:00:37.840
yeah, I don't know. McGuire
said that his backers, which were called

738
01:00:37.880 --> 01:00:51.639
the American Liberty League Citizens United,
had a plan for the economy modeled after

739
01:00:51.920 --> 01:00:57.519
Mussolini's YEP because they were in awe
of what he was doing with Italy and

740
01:00:57.800 --> 01:01:02.119
for unemployment. Here's what he said, quote, all unemployed men would be

741
01:01:02.199 --> 01:01:07.519
put in military barracks under forced labor, as Hitler does, and that would

742
01:01:07.599 --> 01:01:13.599
soon solve that problem. Another thing
we would do immediately would be to register

743
01:01:13.760 --> 01:01:17.039
all persons in the United States as
they do in Europe. That would stop

744
01:01:17.039 --> 01:01:27.599
a lot of communist agitators wandering around
loose Yeah, open parentheses, job flap,

745
01:01:28.159 --> 01:01:36.639
close parentheses. Butler then went before
the nation in a press conference and

746
01:01:37.400 --> 01:01:42.559
was going to address everyone, in
which it was thought he would demand the

747
01:01:42.679 --> 01:01:47.000
surrender of the government. Instead,
he tore off his Scooby Doom mask,

748
01:01:50.079 --> 01:01:53.840
showing that he had played them for
fools, and he blew the whistle like

749
01:01:54.000 --> 01:01:59.760
it was his job. Because he
was an American ended was his jobs right

750
01:02:00.199 --> 01:02:06.480
was a patriot. Here is an
excerpt from that speech he gave. I

751
01:02:06.559 --> 01:02:12.280
appeared before the Congressional Committee, the
highest representation of the American people, under

752
01:02:12.400 --> 01:02:16.039
Sebthoena, to tell what I knew
of activities which I believe might lead to

753
01:02:16.159 --> 01:02:21.400
an attempt to set up a fascist
dictatorship. The plan, as outlining to

754
01:02:21.480 --> 01:02:24.280
me, was to form an organization
of veterans to use as a bluff or

755
01:02:24.320 --> 01:02:30.519
as a club at least to intimidate
the government can break down our democratic institutions.

756
01:02:30.000 --> 01:02:34.079
The upshot of the whole thing was
that I was supposed to lead an

757
01:02:34.159 --> 01:02:37.840
organization of five hundred thousand men which
would be able to take over the functions

758
01:02:37.880 --> 01:02:43.559
of government. I talked with an
investigator for this committee who came to me

759
01:02:43.719 --> 01:02:47.519
with a subpoena on a Sunday,
November eighteenth. He told me they had

760
01:02:47.599 --> 01:02:52.920
on earth evidence linking my name with
several such veteran organizations. Has It then

761
01:02:53.000 --> 01:02:57.800
seemed to me to be getting serious. I felt it was my duty to

762
01:02:58.000 --> 01:03:01.400
tell all I knew of such activity
these to this committee. My main interest

763
01:03:01.480 --> 01:03:07.039
in all this is to preserve our
democratic institution. I want to retain the

764
01:03:07.159 --> 01:03:10.559
right to vote, are the right
to speak freely on the right to write

765
01:03:12.239 --> 01:03:17.480
if we maintain these basic principles our
democracy and say no dictatorship can exist,

766
01:03:17.599 --> 01:03:24.840
the suffrage freedom of speech and press. So it was decided that a congressional

767
01:03:24.920 --> 01:03:32.039
hearing should investigate these allegations, and
the representatives John McCormick and Samuel dick Stein

768
01:03:36.159 --> 01:03:40.119
headed up the Special Committee on Unamerican
Activities. Now that's actually a German for

769
01:03:40.199 --> 01:03:51.199
a dick Stone. Butler named the
wealthy conspirators and this Gerald McGuire and the

770
01:03:51.360 --> 01:03:55.360
less wealthy ones. Yeah, and
his friend French, mister Cumley. French

771
01:03:57.400 --> 01:04:01.320
turned out to be a journalist who
corral berrated his testimony. So he played

772
01:04:01.400 --> 01:04:06.239
them like a fiddle too. He
brought the next since a wire didn't exist,

773
01:04:06.440 --> 01:04:11.840
he just brought a journalist. Yeah. He almost got found out though,

774
01:04:11.880 --> 01:04:15.199
when the guy couldn't stop saying,
scoop, that's right, please speak

775
01:04:15.239 --> 01:04:21.519
into my giant man sized cowboy had
a coup for the president. What a

776
01:04:21.599 --> 01:04:27.519
scoop? Shut off? What did
that man say? He's fringe. Don't

777
01:04:27.519 --> 01:04:30.599
worry about it, it's right.
So they go, they have these congressional

778
01:04:30.800 --> 01:04:36.239
investigations. Unfortunately, if there's one
one of the rare things that stays constant

779
01:04:36.320 --> 01:04:42.320
this country is the ineptitude of any
congressional investigation. And so these guys they

780
01:04:42.400 --> 01:04:45.880
sit down, they're like, well, these guys literally to quote, they're

781
01:04:45.920 --> 01:04:51.480
too important to bring down here.
We consider their inclusion, hearsay, redact

782
01:04:51.559 --> 01:04:58.199
them from the record. These guys
less so kitten pause, kitten pause,

783
01:04:58.280 --> 01:05:01.199
knock it off. Yeah, including
McGuire. McGuire was one of them.

784
01:05:01.559 --> 01:05:04.880
He was the main guy. He
was called to testify, and of course

785
01:05:04.960 --> 01:05:11.639
he denied everything, but apparently he
gave conflicting accounts in his testimony, and

786
01:05:12.760 --> 01:05:17.800
that to the committee he held zero
credibility, so he was it was pretty

787
01:05:18.039 --> 01:05:20.760
people were pretty sure he had something
to do with it, and he was

788
01:05:20.840 --> 01:05:27.280
a jag another rich bitches like he
said, we're not called. And in

789
01:05:27.400 --> 01:05:32.719
the end the committee agreed that there
was evidence of a coup and then it

790
01:05:32.800 --> 01:05:36.960
was dropped. Yep, that's all, thanks, mister, I said,

791
01:05:38.000 --> 01:05:43.639
good day. Yeah, no criminal
investigation was started, no one was prosecuted.

792
01:05:44.039 --> 01:05:49.760
Butler went on to speak against corporations
and wars, saying in nineteen thirty

793
01:05:49.800 --> 01:05:55.639
five, quote, I spent thirty
three years and four months in active military

794
01:05:55.679 --> 01:05:58.639
service and During that period, I
spent most of my time as a high

795
01:05:58.679 --> 01:06:06.079
class muscle man for business, muscleman
for big business, for Wall Street and

796
01:06:06.159 --> 01:06:11.320
the bankers. In short, I
was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism.

797
01:06:11.760 --> 01:06:15.920
I helped make Mexico and especially Tampaco
safe for American oil interests. In

798
01:06:15.039 --> 01:06:19.480
nineteen fourteen, I helped make Haiti
and Cuba a decent place for the National

799
01:06:19.559 --> 01:06:24.360
Citibank boys to collect revenues. In
I helped the raping of half a dozen

800
01:06:24.480 --> 01:06:29.400
Central American republics for the benefit of
Wall Street. I helped purify Nicaragua for

801
01:06:29.440 --> 01:06:32.599
the international banking house of Brown Brothers. In nineteen o two to nineteen twelve.

802
01:06:33.000 --> 01:06:38.199
I brought light to the Dominican Republic
for the American sugar interests in nineteen

803
01:06:38.280 --> 01:06:42.599
sixteen. I helped make Honduras right
for the American fruit companies. In nineteen

804
01:06:42.639 --> 01:06:45.400
o three. In China, in
nineteen twenty seven, I helped see to

805
01:06:45.519 --> 01:06:49.480
it that standard oil went on its
way unmolested. Looking back on it,

806
01:06:49.840 --> 01:06:53.880
I might have given al Capone a
few hints. The best he could do

807
01:06:54.239 --> 01:07:00.840
was to operate his racquet in three
districts. I operated on three continents Mike

808
01:07:00.000 --> 01:07:06.559
Drop. Yeah, five years later
he was dead. Coincidence George Sukalow.

809
01:07:06.679 --> 01:07:13.800
Sound, it's such a thing,
even possible, Yes it is. I

810
01:07:13.920 --> 01:07:16.880
mean I didn't fit. I just
I'm sorry if I say it fits.

811
01:07:17.320 --> 01:07:23.840
But newspapers at the time completely ridiculed
him. But you know, right,

812
01:07:26.119 --> 01:07:30.119
yeah, right, And and that's
the thing, like there's even a mention

813
01:07:30.199 --> 01:07:33.119
in the congressional record that, um, yeah, the newspapers have all are

814
01:07:33.159 --> 01:07:38.440
all calling this a hoax. They
have heard no testimony, No testimony was

815
01:07:38.519 --> 01:07:41.960
given before. They just said that, So we're going to kind of ignore

816
01:07:42.039 --> 01:07:48.360
them. And McGuire. The guy
who did who was called to testify shortly

817
01:07:48.440 --> 01:07:58.599
after his testimony, died of anything
from natural causes to maybe pneumonia falling on

818
01:07:58.679 --> 01:08:02.000
a handful of bullets at the atom
of an elevator shaft. This is this

819
01:08:02.239 --> 01:08:05.599
is like when I say shortly there
after, it's like a month. Oh

820
01:08:06.800 --> 01:08:11.840
so coincidence. Yeah, it could
be sure, could be sure, could

821
01:08:11.880 --> 01:08:15.880
be sure, sure, could be
a coincidence. Wow, So he died

822
01:08:15.880 --> 01:08:21.760
that quickly afterwards, and and it
was just of natural causes. George Szukolo.

823
01:08:21.920 --> 01:08:27.520
Sound, it is such a thing, even possible, Yes, it

824
01:08:27.720 --> 01:08:32.560
is. Yes it is. Yes, it is. Ah man, this

825
01:08:32.720 --> 01:08:36.840
thing is is. Yeah, it's
disgusting it is. And I'll say this,

826
01:08:38.079 --> 01:08:42.239
like, you know, now that
we're kind of in the post analysis,

827
01:08:42.640 --> 01:08:45.159
what do you think happened part of
it? I think that I think

828
01:08:45.239 --> 01:08:51.520
that, in my opinion is this
is it happened as reported. I you

829
01:08:51.600 --> 01:08:55.720
know what I mean, Like,
it's it's not pulling any punches, it's

830
01:08:55.720 --> 01:08:59.279
not hiding you know, like,
oh yeah, we straight up don't want

831
01:08:59.359 --> 01:09:02.039
these guys in looted in this.
So no, you know, I think

832
01:09:02.079 --> 01:09:10.920
that's pretty pretty accurate. I agree. I mean, there are arguments that

833
01:09:11.159 --> 01:09:15.399
historians have made whether or not this
thing was was the truth at all.

834
01:09:16.039 --> 01:09:20.920
Now people people come up and say, well, this guy was obviously a

835
01:09:21.079 --> 01:09:29.159
jaded marine. Yep, he was
definitely had an extracrin so therefore all eyes.

836
01:09:29.760 --> 01:09:34.840
But but the the theory that he's
operating on, like it seems counterproductive

837
01:09:35.359 --> 01:09:39.119
if I mean, that's I mean, if you believe the entire narrative,

838
01:09:39.680 --> 01:09:42.840
which I'm inclined to, that's why
they approached him. They thought that he

839
01:09:42.880 --> 01:09:50.239
would be on their side. I
have a problem with a jaded marine suddenly

840
01:09:50.319 --> 01:09:58.520
trying to um get corporations in trouble
Wall Street fat cats. Yeah, it's

841
01:09:58.560 --> 01:10:01.600
it's a weird turn to se suddenly
take Yeah, why when when? Even

842
01:10:02.039 --> 01:10:09.399
I mean before before, I assume
also during and after he his his his

843
01:10:09.960 --> 01:10:13.840
his focus, his push was veteran's
rights, right, like, why why

844
01:10:13.920 --> 01:10:20.520
take this boondoggle into demonizing capitalists and
saving the government? That right? That

845
01:10:20.720 --> 01:10:25.399
didn't let him become commandant right that
that he was still you know that that

846
01:10:25.560 --> 01:10:29.359
was that was mistreating his fellow soldiers. So I don't feel like that really

847
01:10:29.479 --> 01:10:31.760
tracks. I don't either. I
don't either. And he went on too

848
01:10:31.880 --> 01:10:36.119
before he died, which apparently he
died of cancer. Sure, sure,

849
01:10:36.840 --> 01:10:43.640
Before he uh died, he wrote
a book called War is a Racket,

850
01:10:44.159 --> 01:10:47.079
which I haven't read, but is
out there to read so you can find

851
01:10:47.119 --> 01:10:50.439
it. I think he's even on
somebody's got it on a LibriVox somewhere.

852
01:10:50.520 --> 01:10:55.479
You can have someone read it to
you poorly for free. Sweet. So

853
01:10:56.239 --> 01:11:01.079
there there was the theory that it
was a hoax to win support for the

854
01:11:01.800 --> 01:11:08.319
flagging uh FDR administration. Right,
And one thing that's important to point out

855
01:11:08.359 --> 01:11:12.119
that would maybe potentially lend some credence
to this is that the New Deal,

856
01:11:12.319 --> 01:11:17.600
while extraordinarily transformative in the long run, saving grace of sorts, it took

857
01:11:17.640 --> 01:11:24.399
a while to work. I mean
when the dollar was destabilized for a while,

858
01:11:24.600 --> 01:11:28.079
like there there work, there were
consequences for a little while after this

859
01:11:28.199 --> 01:11:30.920
and that that that built a lot
of animosity towards the New Deal before it

860
01:11:31.039 --> 01:11:34.600
kind of caught on in these programs
really got into effect, and the public

861
01:11:34.680 --> 01:11:39.479
works things like that that we're putting
people to work really started to swing into

862
01:11:39.520 --> 01:11:44.479
action, and that money started making
it back into the economy. Yeah,

863
01:11:44.640 --> 01:11:47.800
people from each each side of the
old stupid ass aisle, you know,

864
01:11:48.199 --> 01:11:54.680
Republicans, Democrats both were speaking out
against him on some of the stuff,

865
01:11:54.760 --> 01:12:00.199
and he didn't have overwhelming support,
which is no odds he won the popular

866
01:12:00.279 --> 01:12:05.520
election, right, but his plans
were radically different. I mean, really

867
01:12:05.560 --> 01:12:11.279
stuff up. Yeah, And it's
so funny that a country that's in such

868
01:12:11.880 --> 01:12:18.600
grips of hill economically is so scared
of change, right, Yeah, that

869
01:12:18.760 --> 01:12:23.840
seems paradoxical, right, Well,
you know it's it's I don't know,

870
01:12:24.239 --> 01:12:30.680
it's I think if you're in a
lifeboat that's sinking, the last thing you

871
01:12:30.800 --> 01:12:32.640
think to do is get out of
the lifeboat, because it's a boat,

872
01:12:32.680 --> 01:12:35.880
you know, you know, it's
it's like the raccoon grip. You know,

873
01:12:36.079 --> 01:12:39.840
raccoon grabs a thing, won't let
go of it. You know,

874
01:12:39.920 --> 01:12:44.279
they used to make raccoon traps based
on that that their hand could fit in

875
01:12:44.359 --> 01:12:46.840
there and grab a nut, but
they couldn't pull it out, and that

876
01:12:46.920 --> 01:12:49.520
would functionally trap the raccoon. I
don't know if that's true. I've never

877
01:12:49.640 --> 01:12:53.800
trapped raccoon, but that's the story
I heard growing up. And but you

878
01:12:53.880 --> 01:12:56.319
know that that sort of mentality that
people are like, no, no,

879
01:12:56.439 --> 01:12:58.079
no, this is the thing that's
going to save me. I just need

880
01:12:58.119 --> 01:13:00.920
to wait a little bit longer.
I can. I can see, I

881
01:13:00.000 --> 01:13:05.399
can see that. I guess.
So the unknown verses. Yeah, you

882
01:13:05.439 --> 01:13:11.239
know, you're right, there's something
to be said about FDR as a businessman

883
01:13:11.359 --> 01:13:16.279
before his presidency. I didn't have
time to look into all his life,

884
01:13:16.359 --> 01:13:24.359
but he was definitely, maybe even
ironically, part of the aristocracy. Yeah,

885
01:13:24.760 --> 01:13:28.439
the American aristocracy, the elite.
He was a rich Richmond. He

886
01:13:28.680 --> 01:13:32.359
was you know, the Roosevelts had
plenty of money. We don't elect poor

887
01:13:32.479 --> 01:13:38.880
guys president. Yeah. Look where
the country is. So so there is

888
01:13:39.000 --> 01:13:44.960
the thought the the double down conspiracy
that uh FDR knew what was going on

889
01:13:45.079 --> 01:13:50.319
along and it was all part and
parcel of selling it to the American people.

890
01:13:51.760 --> 01:13:55.840
To touch a little bit, I'm
going through some of my some of

891
01:13:55.960 --> 01:14:00.319
my jotted notes to touch on the
fascist sympathy was that was in the US

892
01:14:00.359 --> 01:14:05.439
at the time. Nazi Germany was
seen by many on the right and the

893
01:14:05.600 --> 01:14:15.119
right wing in American politics as the
US is potentially most important ally against international

894
01:14:15.239 --> 01:14:20.279
communism, by people who saw Stalin
as as potentially a lot scarier than Hitler

895
01:14:20.319 --> 01:14:24.800
at the time, right, And
yeah, because he learn't done anything yet,

896
01:14:24.840 --> 01:14:28.239
you know, but Germany was considered
to be toothless, having been just

897
01:14:28.399 --> 01:14:32.600
devastated in the previous war. But
it's still this this large country that could

898
01:14:32.640 --> 01:14:36.159
serve as a buffer to Europe.
Um, yeah, I see that.

899
01:14:36.520 --> 01:14:42.279
Yeah. And um one of the
other Prescott Bush is thrown around a lot

900
01:14:42.600 --> 01:14:47.520
yep. That would be the grandfather
of George W. Bush. Yeah,

901
01:14:47.640 --> 01:14:54.960
father of HW. This guy by
all accounts from he pops up here and

902
01:14:55.039 --> 01:14:58.560
there in our research. Yeah,
you'll you'll see him. I mean,

903
01:14:58.680 --> 01:15:01.840
I think people there's there's the Bush
animosity, and so people are quick to

904
01:15:01.920 --> 01:15:05.520
point it out, even even though
and he was a politically active guy.

905
01:15:05.640 --> 01:15:08.960
So yeah, there's a lot of
paper trail where he was and when he

906
01:15:09.039 --> 01:15:14.399
was doing. People are very quick
to include him in their theory because it's

907
01:15:14.920 --> 01:15:18.680
yeah, and he did. Actually, I think he even was brought up

908
01:15:18.680 --> 01:15:23.159
on charges of war profiteering, wasn't
he Maybe I don't know about that.

909
01:15:23.319 --> 01:15:30.279
Well. I know that he was
involved in selling, selling weapons and tanks

910
01:15:30.319 --> 01:15:34.560
and things to both sides he like
backed and this is in World War Two,

911
01:15:34.800 --> 01:15:40.319
back to Germany, back to America. Like it was all the name

912
01:15:40.359 --> 01:15:44.039
of money. And I think that
he was brought up on charges and got

913
01:15:44.079 --> 01:15:47.239
away with got away with with most
of them with kind of maybe a slap

914
01:15:47.319 --> 01:15:51.960
on the wrist and like to cut
off his left hand. I don't know,

915
01:15:53.079 --> 01:15:57.159
but that's one of the that's one
of the shitty things, is Um,

916
01:15:57.359 --> 01:16:02.640
all the war profiteering is is totally
people sold arms to the enemy to

917
01:16:02.880 --> 01:16:08.760
kill their own countrymen. Yep.
And that still goes on. Oh yeah,

918
01:16:08.800 --> 01:16:12.119
it still goes on today. Um. You may be wondering why didn't

919
01:16:12.119 --> 01:16:15.800
anybody get tried, Why was there
you know, shouldn't this be treason?

920
01:16:15.439 --> 01:16:20.119
I don't think they had strict treason
laws for something like this in peacetime.

921
01:16:20.359 --> 01:16:23.920
Well, I think that they had. I think also, and there was

922
01:16:24.000 --> 01:16:26.479
a lack of evidence. It really
did just come down to these two guys

923
01:16:26.560 --> 01:16:31.279
stories. So that's a lack of
evidence. The people involved still extraordinarily influential,

924
01:16:31.520 --> 01:16:35.600
very powerful. Yeah, and at
what point does it does the crime

925
01:16:35.720 --> 01:16:40.880
begin? Yeah, exactly, And
I think that you know, this wasn't

926
01:16:40.960 --> 01:16:45.199
like some master underground sting operation.
He just kind of said, hell,

927
01:16:45.399 --> 01:16:47.119
you know this guy and the bus
is getting close to me, and so

928
01:16:47.239 --> 01:16:50.039
the bus driver goes, don't get
so close to him, you know,

929
01:16:50.199 --> 01:16:54.640
like I think it was, which
is so shy because if it's real,

930
01:16:55.119 --> 01:16:59.159
he did exactly what he should have
done, right, which is honestly that's

931
01:16:59.239 --> 01:17:02.079
the that's the battle cry of whistle
blowers, Like it doesn't work out for

932
01:17:02.159 --> 01:17:05.920
whistleblowers a lot of the time.
Yeah, only one of them got Julia

933
01:17:06.039 --> 01:17:12.840
Roberts to play her, you know, like it's it's asked, Karen Silkwood,

934
01:17:13.039 --> 01:17:16.359
how things work out for whistleblowers.
You can't because she was killed.

935
01:17:16.600 --> 01:17:21.079
Yeah, you know, like these
things happen. It's it's it's it's unfortunate

936
01:17:21.199 --> 01:17:26.600
and even with all of our whistle
blowing protections and laws that are in place,

937
01:17:26.960 --> 01:17:30.920
they still there was a really great
news story just this week, um

938
01:17:31.359 --> 01:17:36.920
that an air an air marshal um. This is in the mid two thousands,

939
01:17:41.279 --> 01:17:45.159
the sky marshal Um. There was
a big alert that went out that

940
01:17:45.760 --> 01:17:48.760
the United States had some intelligence that
there was going to be a terrorist activity.

941
01:17:49.319 --> 01:17:53.439
They wanted all their sky marshals in
the air all the time. Two

942
01:17:53.520 --> 01:17:58.520
days later they were like, oh, um, only short domestic flights,

943
01:17:58.600 --> 01:18:03.960
nothing international, nothing for four hours
because they didn't homeland security didn't want to

944
01:18:04.000 --> 01:18:10.319
pay hotel accommodations and perdems for these
guys just have to spend the night in

945
01:18:10.439 --> 01:18:14.640
other cities. And this guy,
this, this guy marshal like was like,

946
01:18:14.760 --> 01:18:17.199
whoa two days ago, we were
a threat and now you're telling us

947
01:18:17.399 --> 01:18:23.359
that all these flights we can't do. So he told a reporter he leaked

948
01:18:23.399 --> 01:18:27.560
the story to get attention to it. The administration cleaned up their act and

949
01:18:27.640 --> 01:18:30.840
everything. But then he was fired
and he said, no, you can't

950
01:18:30.880 --> 01:18:31.680
fire me as a whistleblower. They're
like, oh, no, no,

951
01:18:31.800 --> 01:18:34.319
you broke the law. He's like, no, I broke your regulations.

952
01:18:34.640 --> 01:18:38.560
Those aren't the law. So there
was just recently a court decision about that

953
01:18:39.840 --> 01:18:43.760
that no regulations are different from the
law. He didn't break the law.

954
01:18:44.079 --> 01:18:46.800
He blew the whistle when he needed
to. There was a lapse in security,

955
01:18:47.399 --> 01:18:51.119
you know, that's he made that
people aware of that and we fixed

956
01:18:51.159 --> 01:18:56.079
the problem and it was fine.
And so it's those kind of things,

957
01:18:56.159 --> 01:19:00.600
like even now with whistle blower protection
laws, it's taken him over ten years

958
01:19:00.680 --> 01:19:03.640
to get you know, to get
this sorted out. Yeah. Yeah,

959
01:19:04.479 --> 01:19:08.399
but he he came out on on
their good set. Yeah, I think

960
01:19:08.439 --> 01:19:12.239
he's still coming out on. I
mean it's like still I think wrapping up.

961
01:19:12.279 --> 01:19:18.199
But but yeah, accidentally natural.
Yeah, so it's it's you know,

962
01:19:18.359 --> 01:19:21.119
like that, and that's that's always
been the problem with whistleblowers, and

963
01:19:21.119 --> 01:19:26.560
they're they're extraordinarily brave people who never
get rewarded for it. Everything goes to

964
01:19:26.640 --> 01:19:30.479
hell for them anyway. Yeah,
well, man, there there's there's so

965
01:19:30.720 --> 01:19:38.439
much to this in terms of learning. Yeah, I mean I really had

966
01:19:38.479 --> 01:19:42.119
fun with surprised how much I enjoyed
it because it was such a neat topic

967
01:19:42.239 --> 01:19:45.239
and yeah, and I know this
episode has been fairly dada heavy and fairly

968
01:19:45.399 --> 01:19:48.760
light on the sound of a fart, but sometimes that's the way the ball

969
01:19:48.800 --> 01:19:51.880
bounces. And sorry, you just
learned. Yeah, sometimes America. That

970
01:19:53.000 --> 01:19:56.239
about it, American. His chord
doesn't have that many farts him. Yeah,

971
01:19:57.760 --> 01:20:00.520
oh man, we could. We
could spend and many more hours on

972
01:20:00.600 --> 01:20:05.000
this, just on the branches that
come that, that feed into it and

973
01:20:05.239 --> 01:20:10.920
come out of it. It's oh
man, it personally just discussed the hell

974
01:20:10.960 --> 01:20:14.760
out of me because it's still going
on. But the thing, the thing

975
01:20:14.960 --> 01:20:18.960
is, the people who would be
the ones to instigate a coup are now

976
01:20:19.159 --> 01:20:25.199
doing it covertly. They've learned from
this and they're taking a different angle on

977
01:20:25.319 --> 01:20:30.520
it. And it's I think it's
already in place, dude, I mean,

978
01:20:30.600 --> 01:20:32.600
I I don't. I don't go
that far down the rabbit. Well.

979
01:20:32.880 --> 01:20:38.359
I think we're in an oligarchy completely. You left it off your list.

980
01:20:38.640 --> 01:20:43.399
I did. I'm sorry. Oligarchy
is the rule rule by the elite,

981
01:20:43.560 --> 01:20:45.960
by the wealthy, by aristocracy,
right, and that I mean,

982
01:20:46.159 --> 01:20:49.359
I mean wealth gaps things like that
certainly are like a problem, and it

983
01:20:49.439 --> 01:20:54.439
doesn't doesn't seem to get better,
it seems to increase, and maybe maybe

984
01:20:54.600 --> 01:20:58.600
it's time for us to rise up
yeah, you heard it here. Yeah,

985
01:20:58.720 --> 01:21:04.800
podbout revolution, it's right, the
blurry phonus army you burned it.

986
01:21:05.199 --> 01:21:12.359
Oh well, anyways, it's crazy. It's true. I mean in that

987
01:21:12.920 --> 01:21:15.760
something happened. Yeah. So I
think that's really cool. That's something that

988
01:21:15.880 --> 01:21:18.800
i'd never learned anything about, never
heard anything about. I think it's fascinating.

989
01:21:19.119 --> 01:21:26.840
And that's that's the business plot in
a shadowy, well funded Yeah,

990
01:21:27.720 --> 01:21:33.359
veteran army laden nutshell economics underpinned a
nutshell man. That was awesome. Yeah,

991
01:21:33.439 --> 01:21:38.600
and now it's time for me and
you to get on our horses and

992
01:21:38.920 --> 01:21:44.199
ride down the Hoover town known as
Puns. Oh god, no, don't

993
01:21:44.279 --> 01:21:46.399
do it. I can't tell me
what to do. All right, I

994
01:21:46.479 --> 01:21:50.560
got one right off the back.
We'll go for it. Recently, Congress

995
01:21:50.640 --> 01:21:57.439
had to do an investigation. It
was actually regarding plot. It was found

996
01:21:57.920 --> 01:22:02.960
people were organizing and using German metal
like the music. Yeah yeah, German

997
01:22:03.000 --> 01:22:09.520
metal music in order to spread the
word covertly because you know, most of

998
01:22:09.520 --> 01:22:14.119
the squares weren't going to listen to
it. And so finally this committee finally

999
01:22:14.399 --> 01:22:21.119
convened and it was the McCormick Ramstein
Committee. Nice yeah, nice, dust

1000
01:22:21.640 --> 01:22:33.039
dust met testimone test. Also,
if you get the opportunity to listen to

1001
01:22:34.000 --> 01:22:41.520
Ramstein did an extraordinarily great cover of
Depeche Modes Stripped, which is awesome because

1002
01:22:41.920 --> 01:22:45.079
the whole first part is just spoken
word by that great voice called with me.

1003
01:22:45.920 --> 01:22:54.079
In threes we lay as the class
let all's pass. Yeah, we

1004
01:22:54.159 --> 01:23:09.119
should do a cover of all right
and well too far Jewin so um,

1005
01:23:09.840 --> 01:23:13.279
I think I made a sound that
might hurt somebody's ears. Sorry about that.

1006
01:23:13.800 --> 01:23:17.079
What do you got, Flora?
I have this, I really I

1007
01:23:17.159 --> 01:23:20.319
have to say. I broke my
bat on both of us. Oh night

1008
01:23:20.479 --> 01:23:26.159
of these this week I'm playing with
broken bats. This is a conspiracy to

1009
01:23:26.239 --> 01:23:30.119
overthrow the government by getting them all
high and then now staying them. It's

1010
01:23:30.159 --> 01:23:43.000
the business pot But yep, infield
fly rule to you, I am going

1011
01:23:43.119 --> 01:23:45.800
to I'm gonna show you how to
do a broken bath bunt. Okay,

1012
01:23:45.920 --> 01:23:49.520
okay, show you how it's done. I guess at this point it'd probably

1013
01:23:49.520 --> 01:23:54.439
be about seven years ago. Five
to seven years ago, there was a

1014
01:23:54.720 --> 01:24:02.359
massive demonstration in Washington adolescent girls or
very upset about the government's ability to provide

1015
01:24:02.399 --> 01:24:13.319
and maintain access to three related gentleman
musicians and the fact that the government was

1016
01:24:13.399 --> 01:24:15.479
not proper. You know, there
weren't enough concerts. There weren't enough albums

1017
01:24:15.479 --> 01:24:23.760
available. Posters were scarce. They
were the Jonas Army. Yeah, he's

1018
01:24:23.800 --> 01:24:28.840
on base on an error. Yeah. The Alps just scratched their head and

1019
01:24:28.880 --> 01:24:31.399
said, well, I hope no
one noticed that, all right, rounding

1020
01:24:31.439 --> 01:24:38.000
out these amazing American puns. Yeah, I've got an American icon who was

1021
01:24:38.079 --> 01:24:44.319
a sex symbol of the thirties.
He was outspoken against nudity laws. What

1022
01:24:45.239 --> 01:24:55.640
his name Study Struttler. Wow,
porn stars before talkies? What would that

1023
01:24:55.760 --> 01:25:00.680
look like? Just had like that
jangly piano. Then like the card that

1024
01:25:00.880 --> 01:25:05.159
said, oh Mi, lady,
which wouldst thou care for? Another?

1025
01:25:05.319 --> 01:25:12.239
Touch? Back to Jakie Leeback in
the thirties when they spoke like medieval.

1026
01:25:12.720 --> 01:25:18.640
Yeah, what they did was all
script and stuff. Oh God, there

1027
01:25:18.720 --> 01:25:25.720
you go. Yeah, them is
ponds buns And now a side chat from

1028
01:25:25.800 --> 01:25:38.079
your President of the United States.
Thank that amount American I have Marhan patience

1029
01:25:38.159 --> 01:25:45.039
and patiens of what has did you
ever written? And then this I bring

1030
01:25:45.159 --> 01:25:51.319
to him, the American tables of
hope. I love I'm not telling him

1031
01:25:53.600 --> 01:26:06.600
this. He's listening Mary. That's
awesome. All we have to fear is

1032
01:26:06.720 --> 01:26:13.279
listener mail itself. It's just enough, all right, right off the bat,

1033
01:26:13.800 --> 01:26:20.920
Uh, Scott Scott pun for us, Scott Scotty. Um, he

1034
01:26:21.079 --> 01:26:25.960
was surprised that we missed a really
important part of the Arthurian. Yes,

1035
01:26:26.880 --> 01:26:32.399
well there was a lady from Ireland. Um, we don't miss any ladies

1036
01:26:32.439 --> 01:26:36.000
from Ireland. I'll tell you that
right now, Scot. Ever, but

1037
01:26:36.159 --> 01:26:40.439
yeah, she was. She was
quite short. Um. I think her

1038
01:26:40.520 --> 01:26:46.079
name was Deborah Beck. I suggest
that maybe we should He suggests that he

1039
01:26:46.319 --> 01:26:50.600
that we should look her up.
Um, unless we've already heard of the

1040
01:26:50.680 --> 01:26:56.720
Little Debbie aka the Lady of the
Cake. M h. I look her

1041
01:26:56.840 --> 01:27:00.760
up every day. He's sorry about
it, but we thank you. Thanks,

1042
01:27:00.760 --> 01:27:04.640
Scott Be sorry. You think Scott
Be's done. He's not. Oh,

1043
01:27:05.199 --> 01:27:09.640
I got another one from Scott b. He says, listening to the

1044
01:27:09.680 --> 01:27:15.399
Bunyip episode, and this is us
blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah

1045
01:27:15.479 --> 01:27:24.119
Dot in the Kangaroo. He says, irmager, or you actually mentioned Dot

1046
01:27:24.199 --> 01:27:27.680
in the Kangaroo. I had so
many nightmares about the Bunya because of that

1047
01:27:27.720 --> 01:27:30.359
show. What's worse is when I
mentioned that cartoon to people, no one

1048
01:27:30.399 --> 01:27:33.920
ever knows about it, which made
it far more horrible that he was the

1049
01:27:34.000 --> 01:27:39.960
only one who had experienced the sheer
terror. Oh man, that was bun

1050
01:27:40.159 --> 01:27:43.840
Gets gone to get you, dude. I'll tell you what, Scott.

1051
01:27:45.720 --> 01:27:48.800
Look that shut up on YouTube and
it will scare you just as much today

1052
01:27:48.880 --> 01:27:54.560
as when you were a kid.
It still skives me out to no end.

1053
01:27:54.720 --> 01:28:00.520
There's just something mortifying about it.
I can't, oh God, even

1054
01:28:00.640 --> 01:28:02.039
thinking about it now. That is
in the middle of my brain like a

1055
01:28:02.079 --> 01:28:06.479
sliver. I'm glad that maybe we
can go to a support group together someday.

1056
01:28:08.760 --> 01:28:11.119
He thanks you for letting him know
that he was not the only one

1057
01:28:11.159 --> 01:28:15.239
who's lived through that mentally scarring animated
sequence, and he's looking forward to our

1058
01:28:15.279 --> 01:28:20.760
T shirts with the pumpkin sweet Thanks
Scott, Thank you, Scott. Okay,

1059
01:28:20.760 --> 01:28:24.479
I'm not trying to approach on this. Oh yeah, here we go,

1060
01:28:25.119 --> 01:28:28.880
Hey Flora. Yeah, if you
ordered to say, I don't know

1061
01:28:29.239 --> 01:28:30.439
a corona, I wanted to put
a piece of fruit in it. What

1062
01:28:30.520 --> 01:28:39.279
would you use? Watermelon? Mitch
goes with everything. Thank you, David

1063
01:28:39.399 --> 01:28:45.399
Flor well, try to try to
do something nice for your dark Lemon,

1064
01:28:45.479 --> 01:28:48.680
but Florish all over it. So
I was gonna make a really cool bit

1065
01:28:48.760 --> 01:28:50.960
out of your name, as I
always do. It's my way of showing

1066
01:28:51.000 --> 01:28:56.199
my appreciation for you writing in But
I guess those days are over. Um

1067
01:28:56.439 --> 01:29:00.800
giant moron says blah blah blah.
I eat my own poop. Next letter.

1068
01:29:02.079 --> 01:29:06.079
Why are you taking your anger out
on the listener? That's what you're

1069
01:29:06.159 --> 01:29:12.199
doing. I'm pretending to be you, and that's why you disrespect the people

1070
01:29:12.279 --> 01:29:17.359
who love our podcasts and write emails. I just like Watermelon. You ruin

1071
01:29:17.520 --> 01:29:21.920
everything, not like Watermelon that she
goes on anything. Oh my god,

1072
01:29:24.039 --> 01:29:27.640
Dark Lemon, I am so sorry
for what Flora has done and all of

1073
01:29:27.720 --> 01:29:30.279
the horrible, horrible insults that he
spoke through my mouth. Just now,

1074
01:29:32.399 --> 01:29:35.399
all right, So dark Lemon,
in addition to trying to help you,

1075
01:29:35.960 --> 01:29:41.680
thank you. Yeah, I hope
you feel like an ass more than usual.

1076
01:29:44.600 --> 01:29:47.359
Uh he and he and we're you
know, says congratulations on getting to

1077
01:29:47.439 --> 01:29:51.600
the ninety nine mark. Thank you? Well yeah, well, hey,

1078
01:29:51.880 --> 01:29:56.039
everyone knows these things are operating a
little bit of backlog, sorry America.

1079
01:29:56.560 --> 01:30:01.199
UM in the UK and Australia.
He has been a listener since Hollow Earth

1080
01:30:01.319 --> 01:30:08.000
won and followed every bonus supplement Candy, Chatt and Bulstone ever since. That

1081
01:30:08.079 --> 01:30:13.159
always makes me feel bad forget seas
beatings. That's right, yeah, wow,

1082
01:30:13.800 --> 01:30:15.920
thank you very much. Loved it
all. Even tried to get his

1083
01:30:16.000 --> 01:30:20.840
wife on board with the resput and
episode tragically backfired because she's something of an

1084
01:30:20.880 --> 01:30:25.920
expert on that field. Um,
like, we aren't bro what what?

1085
01:30:26.600 --> 01:30:30.119
Oh we got it wrong. Probably
he didn't have a massive wing. Oh

1086
01:30:30.159 --> 01:30:34.439
yeah, I know he did,
little known fact um that he's adding in

1087
01:30:34.560 --> 01:30:38.000
here, which I'm sure it's not
upon at all. I'm sorry, he's

1088
01:30:38.000 --> 01:30:42.479
just giving little in fact. As
well as sword and scabbard, Arthur had

1089
01:30:42.479 --> 01:30:45.520
another item of immense magical power.
He wielded a simple gold band that,

1090
01:30:45.600 --> 01:30:49.880
when held aloft with someone too ferocious, feelines to fight alongside him. It's

1091
01:30:49.920 --> 01:30:59.960
often called Arthur's Ring of the Kittens. Yeah yeah, and a mundane superpower

1092
01:31:00.319 --> 01:31:03.520
which you think you don't deserve it. You don't. Sat nabbed able to

1093
01:31:03.560 --> 01:31:09.680
ascertain from the ether the exact location
of any and all supervillains within three meters

1094
01:31:09.760 --> 01:31:14.439
squared, but only for the period
in which they are in custody. Wow,

1095
01:31:15.560 --> 01:31:18.439
I like that specific because they get
out of custody right and then you

1096
01:31:18.479 --> 01:31:27.000
don't know. I think that's just
called like a penitentiary report radio. Thank

1097
01:31:27.079 --> 01:31:30.680
you, doctor Lemon, and thanks
for listening. You're a you're a veteran

1098
01:31:30.800 --> 01:31:33.479
thing. And thanks for trying to
get your wife on board. Yeah boy,

1099
01:31:33.479 --> 01:31:38.279
If rath Putan can't do it,
nobody can try. Try Civil war

1100
01:31:38.960 --> 01:31:43.079
ghost stories. Yeah. See see
if she likes the weird ones, she

1101
01:31:43.319 --> 01:31:48.119
likes the weird ones heard from Angie, Hello, Angelina, Oh, very

1102
01:31:48.239 --> 01:31:56.359
formal helloa with stas uh. She
says, Hi there Hi, hates to

1103
01:31:56.439 --> 01:32:01.359
admit it, but was so disappointed
nice at our guest was not able to

1104
01:32:01.399 --> 01:32:06.359
tell the entire McDonald's coffee case.
We she said she had. She studied

1105
01:32:06.439 --> 01:32:12.479
this case in a law class that
she took totally changed how she sees litigation.

1106
01:32:13.039 --> 01:32:17.640
Here's here's the deal. I'm not
sad that we didn't listen to more

1107
01:32:17.800 --> 01:32:25.000
litigation. Although Greg Box spins an
entrancing yarn, that's true. Yeah,

1108
01:32:25.199 --> 01:32:29.840
in in in a fine pirate accent. Yeah, this is we were talking

1109
01:32:29.840 --> 01:32:31.920
about the woman that spilled coffee in
her lap sued got money. Yea,

1110
01:32:32.399 --> 01:32:35.800
She says. The poor woman did
go through the drive through, but was

1111
01:32:35.880 --> 01:32:41.279
the passenger. The driver parked so
she could add cream and sugar to her

1112
01:32:41.319 --> 01:32:45.159
coffee. The coffee spilled when she
tried to open the pool tab and closed

1113
01:32:45.279 --> 01:32:47.680
to go all over her lap.
She was completely cautious about handling the coffee,

1114
01:32:47.720 --> 01:32:51.479
which was entirely too hot for human
consumption, And she says, sorry

1115
01:32:51.520 --> 01:32:56.920
to be a whiner about it,
but yeah, well, I and I

1116
01:32:57.039 --> 01:32:59.880
wonder if if they're if they're even
talking about the same case. Imagine there

1117
01:32:59.880 --> 01:33:03.520
was more than one of them.
That's probably the maybe one. I mean,

1118
01:33:03.600 --> 01:33:08.279
I don't disagree with you, but
yeah, I don't know. I

1119
01:33:08.399 --> 01:33:12.239
don't know, but thank you.
My question is, at what point does

1120
01:33:12.800 --> 01:33:16.720
hot become too hot? Well,
and that's why you have lawsuits and lawyers,

1121
01:33:17.479 --> 01:33:20.640
you're right, Yeah, yeah,
I don't know. I don't know.

1122
01:33:21.119 --> 01:33:26.319
I mean, look at me,
At what point does this hotness become

1123
01:33:26.399 --> 01:33:28.920
too hot? I don't know,
but I don't think I'm anywhere near it

1124
01:33:29.079 --> 01:33:33.199
yet. I gotta ways to dig. Yeah, I think that was like

1125
01:33:33.239 --> 01:33:39.199
a really good like car talk joke. I just told thank you, Angie.

1126
01:33:39.720 --> 01:33:43.399
Thanks thanks for writing in it's always
good to get, you know,

1127
01:33:43.840 --> 01:33:46.760
all the perspectives you can on on
stuff that, especially when you hear it

1128
01:33:46.840 --> 01:33:53.359
as bowls at first. So good. So we got an email, thank

1129
01:33:53.399 --> 01:33:58.680
you, Angelina. Thankay, we
got an email here from Jeremy, who

1130
01:33:58.920 --> 01:34:12.840
tells us this is j Me,
the one who speaks girl who wait,

1131
01:34:12.880 --> 01:34:23.239
wait, wait, wait, barrel
barrel parrol. Wait, I've got a

1132
01:34:23.279 --> 01:34:35.600
little something here. Who home and
ridingemails to blood hot hippods on hippod bless

1133
01:34:35.680 --> 01:34:46.359
and play my dunes doesn't get me? The rector Florida. There's a guy

1134
01:34:46.840 --> 01:35:05.800
who hates all My p is a
jan it's something away. Oh day,

1135
01:35:06.319 --> 01:35:09.920
all right, how long can we? Ok? Yeah, that's fun,

1136
01:35:10.520 --> 01:35:15.880
fun to do. Thank you for
that. Cheremy, he's got a fun

1137
01:35:15.079 --> 01:35:17.720
By the way, we mashed up
two songs. I hope you know that

1138
01:35:18.279 --> 01:35:20.960
it was my fault. I stayed
on point. I stayed on point.

1139
01:35:21.960 --> 01:35:31.239
Uh. Some man just like to
watch the podcast, but it's me I

1140
01:35:31.359 --> 01:35:41.439
do. I was born and even
flow, Oh my god, I was

1141
01:35:41.600 --> 01:35:46.840
born and pearl which one of these
tubes? Do you breathe up? Okay?

1142
01:35:46.960 --> 01:35:49.199
No, no, no, I
don't Okay, we already gone too

1143
01:35:49.279 --> 01:35:51.560
long? You gotta, we gotta, we gotta focus. You're right,

1144
01:35:53.920 --> 01:35:57.720
people of England would recite this poem
and to remember a fierce encryptid. There's

1145
01:35:57.720 --> 01:36:02.520
a little stage note in here,
thank you, remember remember the fit September

1146
01:36:03.000 --> 01:36:06.680
for the day that I lost my
pie. To make sure you're out of

1147
01:36:06.760 --> 01:36:12.439
sight, don't just look left and
right what a creature will come down from

1148
01:36:12.479 --> 01:36:20.680
the sky. They're responsible cryptid pie
hawks too right. And also he likes

1149
01:36:20.720 --> 01:36:25.720
our podcast, Thank you, Jeremy, And I hope you like that.

1150
01:36:25.800 --> 01:36:30.000
Ten minutes of us just playing with
your pearl jam. Yeah. And anytime

1151
01:36:30.079 --> 01:36:32.319
you write, remind us of that
bit and we will do it again.

1152
01:36:32.880 --> 01:36:44.600
I guaranteing it. Thank you,
Jeremy. From here, one more,

1153
01:36:44.720 --> 01:36:55.920
got one more not pearl jam song, just one more email okay, my

1154
01:36:56.159 --> 01:37:02.119
podcast hurting all drop bottle Okay.
We both thought we were gonna get to

1155
01:37:02.319 --> 01:37:05.680
the other guy there, but then
we were still just doing a bit too

1156
01:37:05.760 --> 01:37:13.479
good. This one's from Goat Yeah. No relation to the goatman. Well,

1157
01:37:13.680 --> 01:37:15.359
of course that's what he'd say,
And I don't think any relation to

1158
01:37:15.600 --> 01:37:23.359
goat girl. Maybe maybe I wanted
to mention the goat because we hadn't heard

1159
01:37:23.439 --> 01:37:27.640
from goat before, so, uh
give us a show suggestion, So thanks,

1160
01:37:27.720 --> 01:37:31.479
go sweet, thank you, sir. Don't don't eat McCann do you

1161
01:37:31.560 --> 01:37:34.319
should, don't do it. Let's
just because someone's like goat doesn't mean they

1162
01:37:34.319 --> 01:37:39.319
eat cans. Dude. Man,
we'll crop the grass on your roof though.

1163
01:37:39.920 --> 01:37:42.800
Do a really good job of it, really good job. That's it

1164
01:37:43.000 --> 01:37:46.720
for mail for this week. Thank
you so much for all of your emails.

1165
01:37:46.960 --> 01:37:50.800
Don't forget to write us five star
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1166
01:37:51.199 --> 01:37:57.399
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1167
01:37:57.479 --> 01:37:59.760
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1168
01:38:00.520 --> 01:38:02.720
Check out. We've got the first
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1169
01:38:02.800 --> 01:38:08.760
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1170
01:38:08.840 --> 01:38:11.960
We are man, we are doing
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1171
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1172
01:38:19.359 --> 01:38:24.199
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1173
01:38:24.239 --> 01:38:27.000
forget to hit our donate button.
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1174
01:38:27.000 --> 01:38:31.960
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1175
01:38:32.000 --> 01:38:36.119
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1176
01:38:38.000 --> 01:38:41.960
that's all. That's that's that's what's
going on. Thanks Bobcat at the

1177
01:38:42.039 --> 01:38:48.640
time of the podcastside off anyways,
that's it. That's all. That's all

1178
01:38:48.640 --> 01:38:53.159
we're gonna do. Thanks for listening. This has been blurry Photos another episode

1179
01:38:53.600 --> 01:38:57.479
in that order. Wow for this
episode of blurry Photos. Thank you.

1180
01:38:57.720 --> 01:39:04.319
I have been Dave Yo, other
People of America and the Shining Star in

1181
01:39:04.479 --> 01:39:11.840
the pair there communic performances Stecco,
and I've been David the Fighting Quaker Flora.

1182
01:39:12.279 --> 01:39:20.159
Nice podcast. Bye,