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Celler for Twin Souls, and today you have me and we have a wonderful
lady on board today who is going to be speaking about her work as a
psychic medium and also a psychic artist and also an author of a book called
Distinct Voices by Susan Clark. And I've known Susan for many long years and
I can attest to the fact that her work is nothing less than brilliant and
her book certainly very profound. So welcome on board, Susan. How are
you. Oh, I'm fine, Thank you, Philip, and thank you
for having me on board. No, it's an absolute pleasure. And you
know, I remembered when you were working on your book Distinct Voices, and
of course reading it. I have a copy myself, of course, which
you signed to me, and reading it is really very fascinating. But I
think it might be interesting, Sue, if you told your listeners a little
bit about you and how you got involved within the psychic component, the psychic
part of your work. Well, since a child, I've always felt sort
of unreal in this world. I've always known something else, but not known
what obviously, And in my generation, in many decades, I've known of
this, but never known who to speak to about it, because my generation
never talked about anything like this. So yeah, so we I was a
bit of a loner, a bit of a shy one, and a bit
of a day dreamer, and I got many many board rubbers at school thrown
in my direction, which were more like my first sign of UFO stings because
there was all sorts come across. But yeah, so then I got as
the years went on, and brought up four children and went to America.
Was my first real awakening. I went to Niagara Falls, and it was
like a place I needed to go to, you know, when you get
drawn to somewhere although family lived there, but I got drawn so much,
and it was like when I got there, I realized I'd been there before,
but I knew in this life I hadn't. And then as we got
nearer cut a long story short, but as we got nearer in this boat,
right up to the falls, the noise was horrendous from the fall of
water, and not only that, the people on board and the shot,
you know, all the people talking in different languages and cameras clicking. I
hadn't on off moment. I don't know how else to express it. I
had like an on off moment where everything just went silent. I couldn't hear
anything, didn't know where I was. I was in kind of a different
reality. And then I just felt my husband touched my hand and say,
come on, wait, come on, it's time to go. And that
was that, and then from then on everything came in abundance. It was
like I was shot in the foot with something, do you know what I
mean? And then I was seeing things and taken places which I haven't written
about yet. There's a lot more to come because it's knowing where to place
it and where to put it. And then all these distinct voices in my
head started talking to me and obviously think you're going mad, but obviously I'm
not. I don't think so anyway, but m yeah. And then meeting
you and meeting other people that have guided me nice and gently along the way,
which has been really really gracious when you meet other people that think like
you, yeah, and know that these things exist and don't think you are
mad. So it was it was really really lovely to have self expression.
Although I'm not a very expressive person in words, but I've written a few
things down. But I'll wait for you to carry on because this is what
you publish, what you publicize. So I have written something because I do
have probability to express myself in wording, because I'm a bit all goo blimey,
aren't I perfectly fine? We are as we are, each to their
own. But I have to see what's interesting inters of your visit to Niagara
Falls. You hear a lot of this from other individuals who have opened up
on some psychic level where they are drawn to a particular place with no reasoning
at all, but just this inward feeling that they need to be there,
and then they go through some kind of activation or a process of awakening.
And I do know that David Ike himself also had this feeling to go to
a particular place then felt the full invigration of energies encircling him. In your
case, you couldn't hear anything except distinct voices, which is the title of
your book. And I think it's fair to say that with a lot of
the psychic components that is hard to express in words because it operates on varied
levels of reality and translation language, not like the way that we speak to
one another as human beings. I think it's fascinating. And also you did
mention it about UFOs, and that's another area that's very interesting, because you
do find that most individuals do have and when they have had a UFO encounter,
whether or not they're psychic, to begin with an a CUFO or then
becomes psychic after seeing a UFO this is quite prevalent within the field of research,
so I think that's really amazing. I mean, you know, do
you want to talk a little bit about those UFO sightings that you had,
But they were when I was younger, Yeah, and not knowing nobody spoke
about it, Philip in them days, we're talking seventy years. Yeah,
yeah, so it's yeah, so those days you never spoke about it.
I was followed up Annali hill Whip anybody's knows anywhere the regions of Crystal Palace
in London. I was coming home and it was in daylight, broad daylight,
and this big bright light. See, you know, when it seems
to follow you. You don't know whether it is following you, but you
don't know how else to express it yourself. And I just watched it for
quite a while. There was other people, but no one seems to notice
it. So I was just looking at it and was drawn to it.
And then I just thought, oh, it must be something like a plane's
headlight or something, you know, when you try to distract yourself from it,
and trying not to be nervous, because I didn't know quite well it
was, but I knew it wasn't something that was supposed to be in my
reality at the time, not even understanding the word reality then, but so
I just kept watching it and then as I turned away, as I look
back, it was gone, there was nothing there at all. And then
of course different variations of when we went to Rendersham all those years ago,
and all things like this, and your articulate word in with everything has been
such a help during my guidance that really has to understand and understand different aspects
of what we all classes uthology or clairbuoyancy or whatever you want to class me
as. Do you know what I mean? But it's just it's to me
it's important with my research. Now. Whoever would have thought to Philip in
all these years writing books and research in my own mind before I can sort
of research the mind in general. It's it's it's the basis of everything.
The basis of this book was to start the human mind and how you access
your consciousness and how you can be so put off by other people's opinion and
things like that. So the basis of the whole thing was structured like that.
But having seen various sort of sightings, if you like, knowing that
there's something else and having visions and seeing the gray as you call them.
I've only ever depicted. The first angel I ever saw was a gray being
and it was the most incredible feeling. I've never felt so overwhelmed and felt
like a child in all my life when that happened. And since then,
I've had visitations, I've been taken places, but consciously, you know,
not physically like I'm I would walk to your house or something. It was
just like the many many things have happened during my lifetime that have been so
so extraordinary, you know what I mean. It's just lovely to be able
to sit here today. I never ever thought in all my years, I
would be sitting here being able to discuss this so intently with another person that
doesn't think you're going by me, do you know what mean? Yeah,
And there's so many of us, so many people that can tap into this
consciousness and who knows where this is going to lead. But the more discussion
we have on it, the more we openly talk about it, the better
it will be. So yeah, so, you know, I mean,
so it's really impressive to understand where we're going and what human human beings are
really supposed to be doing other than destroying the planet. Yes, and I
think that's very important. I think you know yourself as a sensitive, as
a translator for information from these alternative dimensions of awareness. I think attitudes now
have changed. And you did make me laugh to when you said, you
know, way back in the day that you could never talk about UFOs or
psychic phenomena. It was very guarded and of course people would think you'd lost
your mind. And of course I think a lot of attitudes today within the
media cartel have changed drastically now with regards to understanding that there are there are
such things as dimensions, and as well as in science we're discovering this.
And also the fact that you know, because most of humanity has been programmed,
a lot of individuals seem to have been activated, psychically activated, which
has given them access to these alternative dimensions of reality. And if it assists
and helps them, then so much the better. And you have helped so
many people because not just the channeling. And I have to say his So
what's interesting is that I remembered many years ago reading the Seth material Seth Speaks
by Jane Roberts. She was American and she was in communication with a being
known as Seth, and she brought through this incredible information through her books that
were channeled like much like you do. So when I when I think about
you, I think about Seth and Jane Roberts, and there are many other
people who are able to, you know, connect with these alternative dimensions of
awareness of reality and then translate it into an information that we here can understand.
So, I mean, you obviously have guides help us on the other
side, absolutely, and I have one. I have one. It's funny
you stake Seth. Now, I've never been an ardent reader. I find
it really hard. My mind finds it really hard to retain. So I
and an express like because I in the spoken word, with dialect as articulate
as yours, but which made me feel quite unconfident in the beginning of my
journey. But I have a guide called Garth. I call him Garth.
That's not what he asked me to call him. I call him that.
I have many guides, but as you know, but Garth is one that's
the sort of a spectrum of a different species. Garth is what I call
my tattooed man. I've seen him literally to physically touch him in my bedroom
one evening when I woke in the night. I call him my tattooed man.
And I remember a conversation we had about reptilian skin, and you said
to me you had seen like underneath someone's clothing, like a reptilian. This
is very similar. I call him tattooed because he's covered in these markings.
But he's been very, very strong in lunce towards what I receive, and
I remember I have asked them what I can say and what I can't stay
here today, but I have been asked to tell you and inform you that,
Yeah, I was taken to which I've never told anyone else. I
was taken to some area. I don't know where this is, or I
can't explain it as best as I want to because I haven't got the words.
But it was in some kind of ufo, some kind of place that
was metallic but very warm to the touch. It was very you could I
thought I could see myself because it was so shiny inside this vehicle or whatever,
but I couldn't see myself. There was no reflection. So I don't
know if this was consciously or physically. I have no idea, but I
couldn't see myself. I was in this place, and I would felt sa
I knew I belonged there because my skin was different. My skin then became
their skin if you like. Yeah, although I couldn't see it in this
In this material, it's very warm to the touch, and it felt like
it was bendy, but I don't know if it was because I was visualizing
it as as like um deformed if you like, you know what I mean?
So it was moving, yeah, thank you. And then when there
was a group of them and we was all talking and conversing with the mind,
never the voice, it's never the voice with me, with them,
yes, And and they gave me this jelloid. It was a red like
do you remember the old rinstead pastels? Oh? Yes, if you used
to have yeah for gumboils and god, yes, that's the only way I
can describe it. It was very very similar to one of them, like
a dark red. And they put it in my mouth and they asked me
in my head, am I okay? And I said, yeah, fine,
I just want to know what's going on, you know what I mean.
So the more I was doing, the more I was with them,
and understanding. They put it on my tongue, and I remember waking up
in the morning and still true in this thing, but it wasn't in my
mouth, do you know what I mean? So it was like it was
like a dream within a dream, if you get my drift. Yes,
I think also that what's interesting is that you know, we, you and
I are many other people understand about the process of reincarnation, the sole development.
And you know, most people assume that we are just linked to the
Earth system ie as is humans. But you know, from my understanding,
it's possible that we had been incarnate into other systems of reality. I remembered
one UFO expert, Well there's no expert in your apology, but he was
very high up in the UFO field with an America and he said to me
that, you know, you wouldn't believe it, but you know, apparently
most of the information that's been hidden from us. It's like star wars out
there in the universe. And I kind of get that because you know,
we we within our dimension of reality, think that human is the only process
of sole development. But whereas we could have existed in other timelines and other
dimensions of reality, incarnating from what we would consider alien to human and then
back again or perhaps returning back to what we call the other side. So
I totally understand that. And you know, I personally have some private memories
that I won't discuss here, not from the here, not of this world
at least anyway. But that is interesting. So how fascinating. Yeah,
and these are just little snippets that of what have been happening. But yeah,
it fascinates me how consciousness in general. God, for a bit,
we're the only human species, you know what I mean. If we're the
only species, God help us to be on his. But yeah, but
I think we can do a lot more with Brian that we have. Oh
absolutely yes, because you and I know that the brain is a translator and
a receiver information and then we send information out rather, I've always used analogy
of your mobile phone, if you take that is a very simple example.
You've got the physical hardware and you've got the software which is the phone and
carries information. And if your phone dies, and the recording will not because
energy cannot be destroyed. So I understand completely where you're coming from. But
because we're on a limited process of conscious awareness, we don't have access to
all of those memories at any one time. I think, through our biological
severance, then all of the mind and all memories come together, as is
the case with your death experience, when there's an awakening or a revelation of
information that is very familiar to familiar to us. So I think your work
is absolutely amazing. Now, you said so that you had some things that
you wanted to discuss with us, You had some notes. Yes, I
have, like I say, having powerability to express myself in the spoken word,
I'll find it a lot easier to write. Hint. Oh, because
hence the creation of my book distinct voices. I think that's why they got
me to do this, I say, I correct myself there, because they
don't get me to do anything. I'm very accessible to it. And the
more they give me the data that is in my head, scientific to psychology
to everything. I have never learned. I never even passed eleven plus,
do you know what I mean. I've never passed any exams like this.
I don't class myself as an educated person earthly, but yeah, so if
I come read this to you, I will find this a lot easier.
It just says I learned a long time ago that one shouldn't be too quick
to dismiss the opinions of others, as we make each other stronger through our
differences. I speak through one voice, but not always one mind. Distinct
voices was not written to please others in order to remain in a good position,
just for myself. Channeled impartiality can only become more record organized by the
power of one's inner authority, especially as the spoken subject I present can be
blocked via intentional conscious exclusion. When somethink is sampled from what seems a different
time period that provides a sense of altered reality, it drew my attention towards
influence in a more personal progression. With no particular interest in the study of
life science or psychology in general, the impact of sudden altered realities seemed to
conjoin my brain with all matter of data, insight, and physical images living
alongside this extraordinary occupation. Whilst attempting to conform to some extent with the norms
of the day, I began to represent something far larger than the cycle of
human life. It began to symbolize a unity and association for the good of
humankind via cultivating one's inequalities. One can backtrack their life within these telepathic connections,
but the greatest riches are stored by the strength of heart and mind than
in any wealth of materialism. The most important points towards putting pen to paper,
for we as a universal species are all in this together. So when
these pinnacles of rapid responses hit my mind, I'm constantly ready to associate with
this spectrum of telepathic communications. These can range from the mild and tepid to
the most prophetic thermic images of acceptable and exceptional qualities of not only mind conversations,
but also with the containment of premium cliques that are heard within my right
ear. These are just key points towards my constant receivership and how Distinct Voices
came to be authored, and how my faith in my human mind remains constantly
towards research. As none of us can exist without conscious thought. Distinct Voices
acts upon the basis of those regional thoughts to give reason as to why our
minds are a collection of one of the most profitable, developed, managed,
and co owned devices that allows us a glimpse into the mind and soul of
our central character with an entirely compromised account of events and recause of memory.
Distinct Voices informs us that we are the controllers of our thoughts and the creators
of our own free will, unique presentations of conscious mortality via an energy that
can never be destroyed. Interlinkage is entirely possible when the positive is engaged.
Trust me, nothing is ever impossible, and chances are that we may never
know the outcomes we research within our lifetime. But as all minds think differently,
it is important to be guided by every possibility within deeper discovery and not
just there are Wow. That's why I received this morning that is absolutely beautiful
and powerful. And I think that you know, don't ever put yourself down,
Sue. And when you say that you cannot express yourself through the spoken
word, I think, and as you know, every single one of us
on this planet are so important. The sad thing is that most people aren't
aware of the greater realities that you yourself are channeling as an instrument for those
divine beings on the other side. And I think that you know, when
we look at your book, Distinct Voices, a lot of the information in
the book is really quite amazing it's actually trying to take us away from the
fear based and also what you do within your book is trying to open up
this new mindset, to reprogram the mind into a more positive level, and
to see the past as something, even if it had been bad, as
a development cycle towards your evolution or spiritual evolution. I might add, So,
I mean when you wrote Distinct Voices, Sue, I mean, did
you feel this need to write it? Were those on the other side or
in those high dimensional realities wanting you to write this book? How did this
all come about? Absolutely the need. It's like when I do the psychic
art. Never had an art class in life. Unprecedented art came to me
in two thousand and seven and I was drawing things. In fact, I've
done one for you with your guide. How do I know what is in
your mind? What you see? But as you said, the drawing was
accurate to what you know to be. You know, in all the years,
some of the art is so compulsive. It happens in an hour and
just comes out on the paper. I don't draw it first, and many
people have validated what has been drawn, but it's so incredible. And then
when the book started coming out. I mean, as I say, I'm
very humbled by all, but it just it just come about one day I
have this, I do him here. Well, I tell you what I
can explain it more better as when you know, when like say Leonardo da
Vinci, we take him in his generation. Where did all his ideas and
inspirations come from? From? The incredible inventions that he had, and the
drawings he had and a little child afore when they play a piano concerto in
D minor or something they've never done before, all of these things, the
consciousness is what draws me to it. My own, my own life's stuff
in my lifetime, what I've been through and what we've done. Many T
shirts we all wear, makes me understand people differently, makes me understand the
opinions of other people differently. It makes me empathic towards everyone, no matter
who they are. Yeah, it just makes me feel more. It's it's
kind of like a flower that's budded into something that knows it's there but needs
to be expressed. So the book, because really it's like a great big
ump, a little push towards something. Come on, you can do this.
And I heard every word during this. You wouldn't believe how they show
me how to do these things, and how they show me how to write
the book. I am not articulate with word. Yeah, like we said,
there's not one call BlimE in it. It's with my dulcet tone.
Yeah, so's there's not one ain't and all of this. So it's all
done so others can understand it. Otherwise there be no point in doing it
at all. But so they show me different words all night, all day.
Right, we will be waking up in the night or I've got daytime.
They'll give me words, distinct words, and then I don't know what
they mean. But as I say, my head doesn't retain that sybe thing.
So like if you said to me, tell me what distinct means,
I know what it means in my head. But to try to tell you
the dictionary words for it, I've not got a scooby basically. So yeah.
So they will give me a certain word in and I will look up
that word, and inside the word in will be the precise words that I
need to go. It takes me a long time to do it, even
these words that I've printed out today. To read it composed the same way.
So it's a compulsion I have to do it, but with my eyesight
as it is, I only get a few hours per day to do it.
But the word is always in my head. It's like my head as
full of knowledge, not of the earth. It takes me away from earthly
education, which completely bored me at the time at school. But I was
a good girl. I did do what I was told. Yeah, but
like I said, many board rubbers come my way. But yeah, so
for not paying attention. But I was more interested in what I was feeling
more than I was seeing U. So yeah, so it was all it's
all been kind of dictated to me, if that's the right word, Philip.
So it's like it's been as if they're magnified in my head so that
I can understand what I'm doing. I mean, obviously I don't think I'm
stupid, but I've got I took it took a long time to stop doubting
myself and what I was getting when certain things happened as a young child,
and a lot of my friends were put in asylums and given those um electronic
things on your brain and all sorts of stuff like that. But I think
that's for another day. But yeah, but it's um it was an introductory
to m learning how to put your words on paper. Ye, yeah,
because any normal life it is it's all if sands and butts and stuff with
me. So yeah, it takes me quite a while. But I do
know that if I stand in front of an audience and bring validation through clairvoyantly
or I am giving a reading to somebody, it flows because I know they're
with me constantly. You always know, my friends always say, and my
family you always know when you're talking with them and when you're not, because
absolutely, yeah, because our jabber on trying to make sense of what I'm
actually say you when it's just me, but when they work with me,
Yeah, it's a completely different compulsion. Yes, And I also feel what
you're saying is very important and vital that a lot of people are aware that
through the process of discarnet communication or information being received from another source is incredible
because a lot of people say, well it is, Oh, my mind
opened and I suddenly had all this information I've had that happened to me once
before in nineteen ninety six. It was almost like the gateway of the minder
just all this information flooded through. And certainly reading your book, knowing you
as I do, so you know, lovely a lady, very kind,
very understanding, thankfully, no fool. You can't be pushed around, which
is wonderful. But reading your book, distinct voices, you have this amazing
way or rather the information of coming through, and I could tell straight away
that this was not you. Although you were the conduit for the information,
this was not you writing this. It seemed to me like there was some
other force that was using you or tuned you into their vibrational energy for you
then to bring the information through for the people. And one of the book
is so beautiful because it's very compassionate, it's very out there, because it's
trying to show people about consciousness for human mind. And of course, as
you know, we're very much interested in those aspects of research into clairvoyance and
astral projection, remote viewing, interdimensional connection and trying to facilitate such information on
a level that we can translate correctly from this side. But you see when
you're channeling as as it's known as channeling, and they just they just flow
through you. And I think it's wonderful that you know, perhaps it's possible
that you know, you get a lot of wonderful souls in the world who
are not articulate, God love them. But then of course what happens as
they bring up the most incredible work that makes people stand back and think,
what on earth and how enough did they do this? And I think that
that also is a vital component and an aspect that those on the other side
use to prove that they are what they are and what they want to relay
through to this side of life. Do you see what I mean by that?
Absolutely? Absolutely, So you don't have to be brains of Britain and
all of the sudden brains of Britain starts to bring through all this information,
because there'll be no distinction of whether or not what they're using is their mind
that they have they've developed within this life, or if it's coming from somewhere
else. So I really believe that certain souls are activated and utilized for those
on the other side to show people that hang on a minute. You know,
Sue's an amazing lady, But my goodness me, when you read a
book, it will blow your mind. Nohow, it's so kind. But
I do you know, I do get everything you're saying, because it is
it's it's totally mind blowing. It's all I can say. It's an awesome
thing. It just opens your mind. Now, For one instance, I
am eye class. I don't know the proper words in but eye class myself
as a number blind. I'm not very good with numbers, figures and all
of that. Yeah, absolutely not, but yeah exactly. But it's it's
um because we're, like you say, we're all different. All every mind
contains difference, they retain differently. Absolutely. I have a son who has
spurges and knowing the traits of autism are very, very prominent in this work.
If you can call it work, because I don't call it a job,
it's it's absolutely amazing. It's a pleasure. But it's the numbers system.
I get so many equations, you know, when you see on the
board where they do all this y oversee and said over something. I get
loads and loads of that. It's like I see it in front of me
and it rolls as if it's on a computer system, going round and round
and round, and it's like it's going into my head. Where it goes,
I don't know Philip where but it's it's there for some reason. So
I don't know if this future or what. But well, yeah, I
have to tell you that that is not something that's unique. I mean,
there are there are people individuals who have had these experiences, most notably with
UFOs where binary codes have come through. I know that Jim Penniston, who
was linked with the Reynelsham case, when he touched the skin of the craft,
that he started to receive all of these binary codes, and of course
at the time it didn't mean anything to him. Brenda Buttons, how a
lady who had received binary codes and had no idea what they were. And
none of these are mathematicians and have no understanding really of binary in order to
create the language the necessary from another from another intelligence, perhaps in another dimension
or another reality. So I do understand what you're saying that you know when
your mind is opened and you're being used as a relay system from those in
spatial states of awareness. I think it's really incredible, and I think that
your book itself is a testimony to this, because you would be considered the
new Jane Roberts, as it were, because Jane Roberts is no longer with
us on this side of life. Yeah, so that's very interesting. Can
I can I ask you one question? Can you explain the word binary please?
Binary is a connection of number, zeros and ones that is normally associated
within computer language. So computers use zeros and ones with a positive or negative.
But all of the binary information creates a language as it comes through in
multitudes and multitude forms of zeros and ones, ones and zeros creates language,
and science uses it. Of course. It's the known language within the universe,
the basic language of the universal code of binary. So that's basically what
that is. Because I only ever understood apple pie. I didn't know what
pie was until they started give me all these numbers in unison. It was
very very odd, but I just take it on and it usually works its
way out somewhere. You're not going into too much detail here, but also
within your book, you not going into too much detail, as I said,
because there are some things that you want your readers to read. But
you'll find that a lot of individuals who have had and been touched by the
singular have actually had some kind of difficult childhood. And I think this is
universal. Again, It's almost as if I'm not saying that the individual has
to go through sometimes through abhorrent situations, terrible situations, but you then find
that that individual, in more cases than not seen and through being touched by
what we consider to be paranormal forces, seems to shape that individual into a
more compassionate being, a more understanding being. Absolutely EmPATH absolutely. Yeah.
The more readings that I give to people and I can associate straight away,
I know exactly even before they've opened their mouth. You know that they've been
through certain things. Yeah, absolutely, And those are the things that we
need to transfer from our minds. But otherwise we just dwell on them.
Yeah. I don't like using the word pity self, but we do.
Yeah. So we have to create from a creation and send love to the
to the difficulty, not the persons that might have caused it. But if
we can't clear that, our minds need to be clear to hear this.
I have changed my whole character. Myself has changed since this has started happening
to me. I have to I have different techniques and their numbers where I
can shut myself off from other people, including all my lovely family, my
grandchildren, everything. Sometimes they try to cloud you with all their difficulties.
So we're there to assist. But like you say, you can only lead
a horse to water, you can't make them drink. So yeah, and
half remember so enveloped within their own difficulties that they can't hear anybody else.
So yes, yeah, yeah, there as a healer as well to help
heal people's trauma. And I think this is incredible because we think of the
human as just some kind of biological mechanism. But what differentiates us from the
rest of the animal kingdom is consciousness. And I think what's interesting and brave
view is to come forward now to be counted as one among many other individuals
who are trying to show people that consciousness is the real essence of what we
represent universal level of awareness, and that you are not afraid either to express
your thoughts from your past and how your life situation has now brought you into
this moment within time and as the individual that you are. So you do
readings, you do psychic art, you channel information. I mean you know,
where do you, Sue see this taking you in the long run?
How do you see yourself evolving beyond this point to where you are now?
Well, like I say, we might never ever find the answers to what
we're seeking in our lifetime. I hope and I know that this is going
to be keeping on, encouraging, encouraging. I will not give up with
this linkage as long as they need me, and as long as there's somebody
there that needs my assistance, I will always be there and readily available to
them because I find it so fascinating. And I just want to give your
listeners just one thought. So, how could you exist if you never had
a thought? That is a very powerful testimony. So if we if we
all thought that way, and then we'd realize what we do to ourselves.
Yes, that's right, And I think that thoughts create reality. And as
we all are looking into, certainly with regards to my discussions with you about
the other side, I have seen the other side on two occasions. It
is real. Yeah, absolutely, more of an understanding of the flow of
conscious awareness and of course the centralized programming that occurs within our system at the
moment. And of course, one of the main factors I think a lot
of people need to hear at this moment in time is that a lot of
the disruption and chaos within the world through the centralized media cartel, through negativity,
that I myself have taken a leaf out of your book from the past,
and people say, well, no, you didn't, But yes,
you have to understand that people are not just mere stepping stones. They are
keys to activate an individual. And I try to acknowledge what I see,
accept what I see, but then try not to let it affect me,
because absolutely, feelings can change an individual. Do you want to explain a
little bit about that soon, because you know a lot about that, how
negativity can disrupt the biological system and the mental processing. Oh. Absolutely,
because at times in my lifetime the t shirts are worn, as it states
in the book, have been rather nasty, to say the least. But
let's just take one grief, how we react with grief and how we can
console destroy you. And I never thought I could ever get back from grief
of losing my mum at such a young age and everything that went on there,
but you can. It's important. She helps me more now than she
could have ever done on this planet. And beautiful, do you know what
I mean? Because she gave me life. What's the purpose of my life
if I'm always going to grieve? That's right. I think that's wonderful,
and I think, you know a lot of people out there need to hear
that message because there are individuals, God love them who are going through difficult
times absolutely financially, spiritually, mentally, emotionally, all of it. And
if they and I have tried this technique where I now try to fill myself
with that light, to fill myself with the knowledge that I am worthy,
to fill myself with the information that I am love, that I am rich,
that I'm successful, I'm a famous, I'm all these things that although
most people will say, no, you're not, but for me, it's
my testament to my future where I want to go with no ego, but
with absolute grace and honor. And I think that when when I'm reading your
book Distinct Voices, you go through certain sections within the book of the House
and the wise depression and of trauma and how you can change your thoughts,
because this book is all about thought, about creation, about the process of
bringing things into your life as opposed to living in fear and the darkness within
the soul. So I think it is an absolutely beautiful book. And I
you know for many out there, you know that would say, well,
you know, I'm not really into channeling, but what they have to understand
is that we as the primary conduits, not the biological mechanism, but with
a brain that's utilized to receive consciousness, very much like a mobile phone,
but giving it a simplistic version here with regards to the mobile phone of where
the information comes through this physical mechanism for one dimension to our lower sphere of
awareness. I think it's absolutely wonderful that you are giving people that hope,
that understanding that you are more than just a machine. Yeah, because I
ailips self acceptance is everything. Without it, where's our worthy? Why are
we here? And emphasis is put upon beauty and how image should look.
You've only got to look at my granddaughters now how they're supposed to look,
and how it can affect the mind in both genders, and how gender has
all changed. And the acceptance to everything is society seems to vote on something
that the majority like and the rest of us are all different, so we're
not worthy of listening to. But I think self acceptance for just you.
Yeah, obviously they hinted the word self acceptance. It's your stepping stone,
it's your foundation. And when we don't love the person truthfully. If we
can't look at ourselves in the eye the gateway to the soul and say I
love you and mean it, then we're wonky. Yeah, then we become
monkey all our lives. Because to stand up, like you say, with
no egotism, even the thought of egotism, and just say yes, I'm
worthy, I'm charitable, I'm kind, I'm considerate. All of these things
are what you really are. So that's the truth. So you should be
able to stand up and say it without feeling somebody else is going to criticize
you. Yes, the ultimate messages to be humble, to be grateful,
but also to love yourself. I was talking to Brandon Thomas from Texas on
his Yes show Expanding Reality, and he was talking to me and Ronnie a
lot about self worth and how this can have a profound effect upon your belief
system. If you change that belief system, if you can reconstruct your thoughts
to a more positive way and accepting way, embracing way, some really incredible
things happened because, as you are a well aware sue. Also is the
fact that most of the time, and I was guilty of this, I
was living in the future or the past. My mind was either forward or
backwards. It was never centralized. And let me tell you something very quickly
here before we go on a little bit more about your work. I remembered
when I watched the film Empire Strikes Back, the impast Nights Back, obviously
towards lucas a brilliant, wonderful man. His vision is absolutely extraordinary powerful.
But it was the clip where Luke Skywalker had crashed his X Wing into the
planet Dagabar swamp world where Yoda lived. He was looking for Yoda, and
he'd met Yoda, who was a wise soul, one of the Jedi trainers
of the one of the Jedi Knights orders. And it was the bit where
Yoda was training him to use his mind to lift his craft out of the
swamp, and Luke tried it and started it, and of course as Yodor's
standing back looking at this, as Luke's using his hand and stretching an out
and the craft start to come out slowly, and then you could see that
Luke gave up and the craft sank back into the water this one, and
then of course Yoda just went forward, lifted his hand up and then picked
the craft up, it came out and brought it over to the area and
then landed it. And Luke said to Yoda, I don't believe it.
And Yoda said, that is why you failed. And I remembered when another
line he said was Yoda to Luke, where you are your mind always somewhere
else, never in the present. And you know, I remembered even as
a kid that that made me feel quite funny, because those words of wisdom
are actually so true, aren't they absolutely? Absolutely? And I always say
to everybody, stopped looking backwards. It hurts your neck, And don't assume
the future because it's not major. So just live as you're breathing. Yeah,
as you're your breath gives you life. To just live in that breath
in the moment, and then we don't get so overwhelmed. So overwhelmed people
come to me and they say, I can't cope with the world. It's
because you're compacting too much into your head. Your mind becomes just gobbly gook
m. That's right. And I think that, you know, with regards
to your work and very very important. You know, when you look around
the world, and it's true, you see people that want the riches,
the fame, the gongs, all the rest of it. And to my
mind, that is a little bit illusion. It's all right to have money
as long as you've earned that money. In what you do with this entirely
up to you. But it's what's inside, not outside. As you said,
a lot of peer pressure within the world today about I've got to look
like an action man or a Barbie doll and you know, and all the
rest of it. But these things are illusionary because the real essence of an
individual is what lies deep inside the soul. And you know that more than
anyone. So, yes, because we're conditioned, we're conditioned to believe.
Yeah, we're conditioned to believe that a physical beauty is our ticket to happy
life. Inner beauty is what draws people towards us. Yeah, they're cultivating
inequalities such as presence, kindness, receptivity, and capacity to listen. Yeah,
gives you greater beauty, greater strength. Riches are really and truly of
no great use. Who said that, you know, a great right heart
exceeds all Benjamin Franklin, M, Well, do you see your philosophy is
so wonderful, And I think a lot of listeners your listeners out there will
tend to agree most definitely that you know, they have to just take stock
of the fact that, you know, just to take a moment to take
to cash their breath and to realize that it's not as bad as what we
tend to make make it an oud us. But you know, I remembered
dealing with a lot of things in the past and how this would stick within
my mind. Now it would go around in a wheel. Then it would
make me start to feel negative or not being able to get through certain parts
of the day, and then of course turning that all round, and it
is very difficult to do to begin with. But then you kind of like
what you're doing is you're training the mind. Absolutely, you're reprogramming your consciousness
to accept the fact that, Okay, I understand that's what happened to me
in the past. I have dealt with it. I have to move on
now, and I have to shake the hand of my past self and say
to my past self that I now thank you, but I am moving on
now with my new thoughts, with the way that I am the new me
as it were. Yeah, exactly, because every person we make, every
person, we're consciously aware of in this lifetime are our educators, no matter
if they sell you a newspaper or anything. We absorb them. We absorb,
that's what we are meant to be. Immortality absorbs everything. And if
you absorb the negative all the time, that's all you're going to be is
just negative. Yes, And of course vibrations are what's important because energy is
vibration. Vibration is also information, and that that information operates on lower or
higher spatials of dimensional reality that folds into other worlds that our senses cannot always
perceive. So I think and feel that for you, Sue and your journey,
which is very touching. I have to say that the beginning part of
your book, Distinct Voices, talks about the personal things that we're not going
to go into here, that you had gone through, and then of course
how this all happened to you, and then subsequent to that of your high
link with those masters, well, I will call them masters, give them
the respect that they deserve. Absolutely, I've learnt more. Sorry, I've
learned more. I've learned more from them than any earthly educations ever offer me
here. Yes, and I think it's beautiful that they've they've found you,
and they've used you as their compassionate conduit for information to try and show the
masses that you are beautiful, that you are amazing, that you get in
touch with that love inside yourself, even if you go through a bad day.
We all have bad days. We all have bad thoughts sometimes, or
we really have a situation that really grinds our gears. And then what I
do. I stop and say, right, that's it. I've dealt with
that. Now there's nothing I can do about it. I send love back
to them or the situation, yes, to then turn around and move on
with my life. So I think that a lot of enforcement of information is
now coming through. That's categorically stating to the human race that we're in a
bad place. But look, a lot of people are now being activated.
Have you seen that soon? Absolutely, unity is everything, Unity hears everything.
We should all be sticking together and we all live here exactly the same
way, basically, don't we We have to have money, we have to
have this, We have to have that. It's what how you program it?
People say to me, Yeah, but at your age, so it
doesn't matter what you look like, do you know? Yeah, because you're
getting older. Yeah, fair enough, But my wrinkles are mine. Every
line on my face belongs to some character that I've gone through or something,
or some education I've been hit with. So do you know what I mean?
So you have to take the basis of your own self and reach outside
of your earthly education to locate and validate the most natural human abilities, and
that's our mind. Without it, we can't be here. So why are
we so up one minute and suicide all the next? Why do we make
this a creation in our heads? There's much more to learn from There's much
more to learn from this. And I think also that that message is beautiful
for a lot of the younger generation who do feel pressured. You know,
Oh I don't like look like this, or I don't look like that,
or I don't have the most modern clothing or the updated computer game system.
I think that you know, beauty lies within and it has I must confess
to you. So it's taken me. I mean, I'm going on to
fifty four and it's taking me this amount of time to realize and accept and
understand. But nothing was explained within our development and when we were growing up,
nothing was taught to you or told you about these new areas of conscious
understanding. And I think that this, all of this subject matter is coming
into the foe now more than ever before, because you know why, because
people need it. They are they're fed up with the old system of control
and mental subjugation, and they've got to a point within their life where they're
saying to themselves, you know, there is more than just the earth system.
There is more than me. There is more to all of this and
what we do, which is beautiful like souls as yourself. That we can
then fall back on those individuals and see what they've written, see what they've
research, see what they've channeled, and then see if whether or not that
fits with our vibrational frequency of what we want to do. So ultimately soon,
I mean, you know what is and would be bar from the message,
the beautiful message that you read out earlier. What is your message to
people out there in the world who are listening to you about your channeling and
your wonderful book distinct voices. What's the overall message that you would like to
relate to them. Well, the message I like to give to people is
is because people will often assume that how I am and what I do they
have to do. Yeah, so that if you open your mind, they
know my God, No, I don't want them coming into me. I
don't want me hearing dead people and God knows what. However, they want
to explain it, but it's not the case. Opening your mind is achieving.
Yeah, it's achieving why you're here as a mortal being. So it's
achieving the education from other things that can't be seen, like your mind.
Every mind is different, Every mind retains differently. I mean upheld groups with
meditation groups. Not everybody can visualize. Not everybody can do this. And
I've had the most amazing people that have come through to want to be channels,
and they get so upset and disrespect theirselves because they can't visualize a great,
big meditation like some other people can do, you know what I mean.
So's it's really a shame that they hold their self back through it.
And I like to get that out to people that this doesn't mean you've got
to talk to your dead granny, you know what I mean. This means
that you have consciousness, and that consciousness is worth every tiny little drop of
it, Yeah, to put towards you, to bring it back to the
inner self, and then the inner self speaks to you, you know,
to tell you that, yeah, you're doing a good job, you are
worthy. Yeah, stop underestimating yourself, because that's what we do. Everyone
has an opinion, and some people's opinions, after all, are just thoughts.
Yeah, they're their thoughts, and all the time we listen to them.
I must have missed a lot of opportunities to channel through other people's opinions,
and then I doubted me. It's not important what other people think of
you. Is The importance lies what you think of you. That's absolutely beautifully
put Sue. And we are slowly coming to the end of the show,
and I have to say it's been a real honor to have you on board
to talk about your experiences, to talk about your wisdom, to talk also
about the channeling about consciousness, and most importantly your book Distinct Voices by Susan
Clark, and a beautiful book, ladies and gentlemen, one to get for
your library. And I think that you when you read this book, you'll
understand a lot more about yourself as a human being, but also this spiritual
component that actually is the real essence and part of what we all represent if
only that we could remember or recall that to some level. So how can
people get hold of you soon? Well, I'm available from my home obviously.
I have got a website which is Sue Clark with a knee because I'm
posh. Yeah, one nine weeks dot com. And I've also got a
hotmail address Sue Clark Dash one nine at hotmail dot co dot uk. Or
you can find me on Facebook, which I have got Sue Clark or Susan
Clark, all depending which one you want to find. But yeah, so
I'm available on all of that. Um so if they wouldn't mind having a
little peep, I'll be very grateful. But I am so grateful for this
today. Who would have thought this? Like I say, never think anything's
impossible, because I can't believe I'm sitting here talking to you. I'm so
I am so touched by your lovely words and kindness. I really really am.
I'm getting a bit overwhelmed with it at the minute. Yeah, because
it's very touching. And thank you, Philip. So that's wonderful. And
are you working on a new box. Yes, I'm working on I can't
remember the name of it. Oh my goodness. Yeah, I'll only worry
when I can't remember my own name is Universal Association. I'm working on that,
and I'm working also on some podcasts. Um so I need some friends
to help me with that one, because technology is not my faulty at all.
But yeah, so we're working on several different things and guided always buy
them always. Yeah, wonderful. And I have to say, Susan Clark,
all the best of luck with you and your future projects, and also
of your wonderful connection with those discarnets on the other side, those masters,
those interdimensionals as most people would call them. Susan's book, Susan Clark's book
is Distinct Voices, Ladies and Gentlemen, available Amazon. Go out and buy
it, get it and read it. I'm sure you'll find that really amazing.
And it's been so wonderful to have you with us today, Sue on
our show. Oh, thank you so much, Billip, and good luck
with all of yours too. Oh well, you know, we're all in
it together, we're all a part of the same process, we're all linked
on the same level. Yeah. Every piece of information should never go unnoticed,
that's right. So, ladies and gentlemen, Sue Clark Voices wonderful book.
And you've been listening to Twin Souls in association with the Paranormal UK Radio
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