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As y'all forget it. Yes,
welcome back to Calling All Beings. I'm

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your host, DJ san Marco here
with you on a Wednesday night with another

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special guest. We keep bringing you
dope people. I mean, and when

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I say dope, I don't mean
in the way that you guys think of

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me as dope, which is in
the actual sense of the word. I

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mean dopeidelic people. All Right,
So I'm your host, DJ, said

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Marco, along with my co host, the amazing, the not to be

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compared, the deep, the thoughtful, the intellectual Nathan. What's up at

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and now let's get to what's really
going down tonight. You know, there's

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been a lot of stories that you
guys have heard. People have shared their

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experiences with the phenomenon with Beings,
most most recently Angelie, who's probably also

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been in contact with our next guest
from the Alabama part of people. Put

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your hands together for David John Lanier, WHOA he's my bob brother. Yes,

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and let me tell you something,
David, there are gonna be some

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very deep and intelligent questions tonight,
and you're going to find that most of

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them will come from me. Okay, the more shallow sort of meaningless stuff

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that would be Nathan. So let
me just give you an example. Oh

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my god, David, where are
You'll be back? He'll be back.

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I'm sure he'll be back. He's
gonna keep going, he'll be back.

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Well, no, I can't keep
going because he needs to be there for

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you know what, you know when
you he's coming back. He's back.

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Now, there is. It's good
man, It's all good. So so

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as I was saying that the deeper
and more thoughtful questions will more than likely

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come from me, and I'll just
give you a sampling right here. So

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David, tell us what happened.
No, I'm just kidding. I knew

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you'd love that, Nathan. Okay, And with that, I'm going to

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turn it over to my aforementioned brilliant
co host Nathan to kick this off.

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Brother. Yes, thank you to
Jay. David. Great to have you

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with us this evening. We are
very very fortunate to have you on the

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show, and I'm looking forward to
hearing your story. As we've talked with

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you before, we want to make
sure that you feel comfortable and feel a

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part of our family when you're on
the show, and so we're going to

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do this in the way that you
want to do it. I know we've

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talked a little bit about kind of
where we want to go with the show,

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and and and kind of the direction
that we want to go. And

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so I think we'll get started here
and maybe you can do a little introduction,

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tell it, Tell folks what what
you want them to know about you,

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and then let's start with where things
got really going for you in the

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late nineties. Okay, can you
guys hear me? Okay, yeah,

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sound great. I mean, as
far as my personal background, I don't

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have I don't fly FA eighteens,
I didn't work for the government. I

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don't have incredible you know, backstory. I've I'm married, I had a

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family young, I worked in real
estate for the last twenty years on different

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levels, you know. I played
music for a while and I read.

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Yeah, oh yeah. I mean, I've accomplished some pretty cool things,

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but I don't want to really wave
that around as a way to convince people

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that I'm not full of it and
incredible. I mean, I'm willing to

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answer any questions you know, or
or what have you if people have them,

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but I don't really feel like,
you know, bragging on myself to

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make myself sound credible. You know, I'm a pretty ordinary dude, I

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guess, aside from whatever the hell
happened. But you know, I'm I'm

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just wanting to talk about it because
I really do have faith in this disclosure

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movement that's happening right now. I
wasn't a part of ufology for a long

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time because it's so convoluted and and
and I you know, I was involved

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for a little bit and then I
left, and now I'm back in it

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because I really feel like there's there's
people making some smart moves and and and

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getting the ball rolling. And I
just kind of feel like I've got this

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thing that happened to me, and
I've told some people, but I haven't

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really done it in a public way. I've left little bits and pieces on

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Twitter, but I haven't just kind
of like sat down and told the whole

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story. And you guys were nice
enough to approach me and let me do

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that. So that's why I'm here. And and with with that correct with

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that credit that we've built up,
does that mean that you'll play guitar for

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us to close out the show?
Hell? Okay, okay, all right,

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next time? And Nathan back to
you excellent, excellent, excellent.

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We'll work on our little ensemble piece
for the next show. I think that'll

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be great. So, David,
where do you uh? You know,

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again, we really appreciate having you
on, and I know this is not

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easy to do, and so we
don't take that lightly. But where,

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you know, where does the story
really start for you? Let me preface

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all of it by saying, I'm
fully like I have one foot in the

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normal world where my parents and my
in laws are very educated, hardworking people

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on you know, the family on
both sides doesn't get into this kind of

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stuff, and I respect that,
and there's a part of of my life,

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of our lives that doesn't really want
that in it. But then there's

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another part that, you know,
I went through it, and I'm fully

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aware of how absolutely crazy this sounds
to just the average person who just got

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off work or that has other things
going on, and there are other things

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going on in the world. So
I just want to preface it by saying

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that that I'm fully aware of how
crazy this all sounds. You know,

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I listened to Ryan Bledsoe today,
David, and when you listen to his

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story in this background, it's not
very different from your background. You know,

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the you know guys from the south, you know, fathers out hunting

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doing things like that, fishing,
and these things happen, so nobody in

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the town is like, oh wow, you must be absolutely out of your

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mind. If we're in Dona,
Arizona, people might go, oh wow,

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that happened. Wow they believe right, But that's you know, it's

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just a function of where you grew
up. But please go ahead, sir.

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No, uh, you know,
I'll just go ahead and get into

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it because I was going to go
for it. There's just so much I

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could say. And it's a lot
like this. This story covers about three

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years roughly, and it covers my
wife, my children, my mother,

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my brother in law, me,
some acquaintances. So it's hard to tell.

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And I do kind of want my
privacy to maintain a little you know.

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Again, I'll answer questions, but
I'm not I don't want like skeptics

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and debunkers and researchers and investigators like
right, but trying to find out if

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my mom who is who she says
she is or I you know, all

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that kind of stuff, right,
So saying that I'll get into it,

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okay, So nineteen ninety seven.
I'm I'm seventeen years old, and I'm

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a straight arrow kid. I might
have smoked a joint, like a couple

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of puffs off of one, had
half a beer, and passed out.

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I was I was a good kid. This would have been like ninety seven,

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and I was on the way home
from a concert and it was an

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outdoor concert, so this would have
been like late spring, early summer,

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summertime around that time. And there's
a friend in the car with me,

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and we're driving home. We're going
north up the interstate. We get off

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the ramp and you know, I
looked to my right, you know,

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you look to your left, liot
right. It's a two way highway and

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a small town and there's this blimp
that's you know, I'm not a great

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judge of like how far away things
are, how close things are, how

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high they are. I'm going to
roughly estimate that it's probably three to five

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miles away, and it's over the
city, and it's not terribly high off

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of the horizon, like I'm not
having to crane my neck. You know.

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It's I can see it out the
windshield, and it's a blimp.

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It looks about the size of a
blimp, maybe a little bigger, and

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it's got a little cap on the
bottom of it, and I think,

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I just I remember this vividly because
a lot of I stop myself because I

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know people are like, well,
you know, memory degrades over time,

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and it does. But like,
I don't remember what I had for lunch

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at my grandmother's funeral, but I
remember seeing the body of the casket.

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You know, things stick out.
So I see this little cap on the

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bottom of it, and I think
the thing's awful small for the people.

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And then I noticed that it has
the same cap on top of it.

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Oh awesome, So we were lost
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Yes, you know, doesn't necessarily
lend itself to it a limp,

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looks like. So that's interesting.
Yeah, yeah, you know, are

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good. Yeah, we're good.
Welcome back, man, Okay, we

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lost you on the size of the
cap on the and you were talking about

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on the bottom as well as on
the top. Yes, there was a

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there was a cap on the bottom
of it. Too small for people.

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I was confused, same cap was
on top of it. And then the

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whole thing is about is shaped like
a blimp, you know, or or

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like a liquid advil. Yeah.
Oh, thing like oblong, kind of

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stretched out and it has like two
grooves carved out in the side of it,

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or like two intentions in the side
of it. And it's just moving

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peculiar, you know, like a
like a there's a there's an airport near

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my house, and small planes will
kind of like bank this way or bank

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that way, or up or down, and they have like a you know,

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and this was just like a steady, just slow moving across the horizon.

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And all the while this thing is
flashing like multiple colors, like I

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can't explain it. It's just like
it almost looks holographic. Yeah, And

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so the whole surface of the object
is doing that. Yeah, And it's

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giving off this like purple pink,
reddish hue. And it's also emanating red

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light, so you know the way
a Christmas light looks from a distance,

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and it has points of light that
come off of it. Yep, it

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had that. It had several kind
of points of light that were coming off

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of it. And it's just kind
of moving just slow and steady, and

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I'm sitting there and it just,
you know, in all of these thoughts

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are coming to me. Over the
course of about five seconds that I'm watching

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it go and I just go,
and what were those thoughts? It was

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just processing when I saw it,
just going like is that a limp?

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Why does why is the why is
that so small? Why is it multiple

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colors? Why is it blowing red
light? And then I thought, and

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I have to preface before I say
this, I was not into Star Trek,

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I was not into Star Wars.
I was not into conspiracy theories.

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There was no reason for me to
be thinking anything other than like I saw

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some episode on the Unsolved Mysteries in
the eighties or early nineties, or I

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had seen like an alien movie,
and I just thought to myself, like,

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is that a UFO? And there's
all the while, you know,

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my friend was next to me in
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thought that, and I'm not saying
it's connected, but as soon as I

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thought that, that thing just went. I mean, it took off like

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it had been shot out of a
gun. It just went from like slowly

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moving to just suddenly, like in
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tracer. Because it was at night, it's probably about twelve thirty am.

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And then there's like this I left
that out twelve thirty am, right,

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ok, yeah, give thirty minutes. And it's just this tracer, this

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red tracer just stretches across the horizon
and you can see it way off at

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the end of the tracer and it's
like a bulb, and then all the

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way back to where it was is
just a point, just a tip,

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and it looks like a sperm that's
just been like stretched out. Yeah,

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it might be an analogy, but
that's what I thought when I saw it.

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Sure, and then the tail closed
up behind it about this fast.

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And it's interesting the tale. As
soon as the tale closed up behind it,

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it was just a twinkling red light
like a star or a planet,

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you know, same level on the
horizon, Like it was just on a

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level and it just got twinkled and
got dimn and then it was just gone.

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It just disappointed. And I looked
at my friend and he looks at

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me. And for the researchers and
skeptics and debunkers and investigators, I haven't

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talked to that guy in twenty years. I'm not just gonna cold talk him

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out of the blue and be like, hey man, you remember this,

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because I got people from UFO Twitter
line. But hey, David, can

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I can I can I interject for
a second. Don't worry about refutations of

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anybody or trying to qualify based on
any skeptic or any idiot that's out there

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that just likes to get on there
and tell people they lie or something.

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We don't care. We're here at
interviews, So just tell your story and

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don't even worry about qualify because I
have zero worry about these people and their

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and their thoughts. So let's just
let's hear from I want to hear from

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you, Okay, okay, okay. So my friend turns to me and

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I turned to him, and I
can't remember if I said her he said

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he said, was that a you
know? Dot? And we just laughed

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hysterically, just laughing, and I
remember thinking, like, man, I

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just like won the lottery or got
struck by lightning. Like I realized that

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this was a U f U.
I don't know what that meant, but

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but you know, I just was
like, Oh, this is like the

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movies or like the you know,
unsolved mysteries or something, and I'm just

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one of these people that just happened
to be privy to it. I just

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caught it, you know, and
it did feel like it had been caught,

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you know, like I've seen it
at twelve thirty night, pooting around

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and it just went Did you stop
the car and all that business? Or

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were you just watched them through the
windshield? I was at the top of

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the exit, you know how when
you get off Interstate off an exit,

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n you get to like the top
of the exit and you kind of have

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to sit there for a minute,
check traffic both ways. It out parked,

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Okay, got it? So so
a pretty brief encounter, you would

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say, just a few seconds or
yeah, it's literally probably within ten fifteen

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seconds. Wow, that's a lot
longer than mine was. And you know

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what, See there's something and Nathan, there's something to be said for him

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stopping at those off ramps. A
guy like me that blows through that stop

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sign just kind of rolls through.
I missed the UFO. Well yeah,

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no, it's please obey local traffic
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that, what could happen? You
might see up? Yeah, you're your

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back, don't Okay, I don't
know what's going on. I don't know

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if that's on my end. I
assume it is. Yeah, do you

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have two nets in your house?
Do you have h like I have two

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nets? Do you have two different
nets? And maybe your wife is using

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one and streaming and then if you
go on the other net. No,

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I'm out at the lake. I'm
out at the lake house. And okay,

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it's kind of I'm the only one
out here, so it's no problem.

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You're not gone for long. So
anytime you leave, it's just a

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chance for DJ to interject. You
know what, I haven't talked to David

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yet about buying uh, you know, maybe five of those one hundred acres,

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but that's going to come after the
show. Please continue, Please continue.

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Yeah, so like one acre?
No, okay, So so when

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that happened, I don't remember the
drive home. I remember dropping him off,

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I don't remember driving home. I
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again, this was like twenty years
ago. Over twenty years ago, okay,

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So I just don't recall it.
I'm not saying there was anything weird

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there. I do remember going to
school the next day and you know,

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talking to my friends about it,
and you know, fifty percent of the

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people were like nowhere, and then
the other fifty percent were like that's weird,

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tell me more. And and I
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you know. I just kind of
was like, wow, that's neat.

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But I didn't become a conspiracy guy. I didn't become obsessed with sci

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fi. I I just kind of
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affect me. Mh. So that
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and it coincides with something else that
was going on in my life that's

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later down the road that I can
get later because I don't want to jump

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around the story. So fast forward
ten years okay, two thousand and seven,

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seventeen, Wait, two thousand and
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Sorry, Yeah, I'm working the
late shift at my job and the guy

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that was with me and just asked
me a question out of the blue.

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He's like, hey, man,
what do you think about UFOs? So,

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you know, ten years past,
I don't really, it's not a

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part of my life. I don't
I don't think about it. I uh.

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And he says, what do you
think about UFOs? And I'm saying,

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well, you know, the universe
is a big place. There's exo

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planets. I guess it's you know, it's possible and then suddenly that whole

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scenario of seeing that UFO just came
like rushing back into my memory and I

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was like, oh my god,
like I've seen one. And so he

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gets me to tell the story,
and I relay the same thing I just

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told you guys, and you know, then he tells a story about something

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he had seen, and on a
small tangent, I have found that in

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these little discussions I have with people, you know, about five out of

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ten people will have some kind of
like paranormal story to tell and the other

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five know somebody. So it's really
not uncommon. I just don't think a

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lot of people talk about it.
Yeah, people don't. He suggests to

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me. He was like, have
you ever listened to Coast to Coast AM.

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I'm like A. He's like,
you should listen to it and you

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should look into the subject, especially
since you've seen one. I'm like,

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okay. So on the way home, I listened to Coast to Coast AM

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and it's I think it's Dolores Cannon
and she's talking about the Indigo children,

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and I'm just kind of going like, what, like what am I hearing?

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And the next day I google it. I just google like UFO and

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the first thing that comes up at
the top of the search is bibbles are

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Ye. And so again I'm coming
into this subject knowing nothing, okay,

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nothing other than the fact that I've
seen something I'm not still I didn't even

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watch Star Wars until I was in
my you know, mid twenties. I

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just this is off my radar took. So I watched the Bubblesar documentary and

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I'm just like my mouth my jaws
like on the floor, Like, you

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know, I don't have an army
of debunkers telling me this guy's full of

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it. I'm just listening to this
guy tell a story. I'm not sensing

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any you know, lies. And
he's like, yeah, you know,

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aliens are real. Government knows we
have access to their craft, and I'm

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not one hundred percent sure, but
I think they had something to do with

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our creation. And I was,
oh, wow, did he say that?

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Yeah? You know his I think
you know his. The way he

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tells it is that he's not sure
or what disinformation he was fed and what

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information he was fed, right,
but he was briefed on that that's six

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hundred thousand years ago. They came
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and about every six hundred years would
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here we are and they're still kind
of coming around and tinkering, and so

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I have no context for this information. Yeah, I'm right, No,

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go ahead, kick, I was
just gonna say, I just want to

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just go around. So the voice
you're hearing and the experience you're hearing is

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that of David John Lanier, our
guest. He's going to talk about his

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experience both seeing and standing in front
of interacting in his house with beings.

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My co host, of course,
is the amazing Nathan at a Wave Soul

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and I'm djsen Marco, your erstwhile
host. Please continue. So you know,

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I have no context for any of
this. I'm not into euthology.

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I don't know that he did he
really did? He not? Remember,

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I'm just listening to this guy talk
and I'm going like, Holy mother,

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like is this for real? Because
I'm seeing more like i've seen a UFO

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and it actually, you know,
the one I saw kind of sounds like

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something he just described. Is that
what's going on? Because like I was

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raised in a Christian home, you
know, I left Christianity became nihilists,

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study Buddhism, you know, experiment
with psychedelics, just trying to figure out

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like God in the universe, like
what's going on. And I'm like,

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dude, that's it. It's aliens, So that might have something to do

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with like everything else that is about
to happen. You know where my mind

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went with that sure shift perspective,
you know, that's what I'm thinking.

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And so that, you know,
to get to the next part of the

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story, I start studying it.
You know, I start studying the subject

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and I'm not like super in depth
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And so around this time, I'm
I have a music project on the

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side, and my brother in law, who's a cartoonist, is drawing the

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album cover and he sends the album
cover to me. I gave him the

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music. I said, draw whatever
comes to mind. Just listen to the

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music. And so he draws a
UFO and he was like, is this

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a good album cover? And I'm
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like, what is it? You
know, because I'm sitting here so unprompted.

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He didn't. You didn't ask him
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what came came to mind? Yeah, wow, yeah, And and so

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he sends this, I'm like,
oh my god, you know, and

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and that's when I start picking up
on the concept of like synchronicity, and

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so I'm going like, okay,
wait, you know, because I'm also

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learning about like telepathy and Grays and
Zeta particular and Betty and Barney Hill and

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all this kind of stuff. And
now he sends me a drawing of UFOs

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and I'm like, this is not
going well, Like where is this going?

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So okay, this kind of thing
goes on for a while. I

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don't know how long, because this
was about two thousand and nine that I'm

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kind of going down this UFO rabbit
hole. Yep, not again, not

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like super in depth. And I
know, I just kind of jumped from

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two thousand and seven to two thousand
and nine. But two thousand and nine

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is when, like the meat if
this kind of started. Sure, And

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I'm downstairs in my basement folding close
folding laund because of laund rooms downstairs,

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we have a little there was a
little window. It's the old house next

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door to my new house. It's
all in the same property. And I

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look out the window and there's this
light and it's just kind of like looks

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like it's moving around like this.
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of moving around near it, and
I'm like, no way, and I

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just get scared, like I'm like
no, and I look out and I

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swear like one of the little lights
flies up and touches the bigger one,

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and like just this appears into it, like just becomes one with this thing.

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And I'm like, that's a star. That's I'm going crazy. And

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I ran upstairs and I look out
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kind of a little panicked, you
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didn't know about any of this.
This was kind of like just in the

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basement, you know, doing God's
work down there, and she didn't know

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anything because she's like, what is
it. I'm like, I think there's

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a UFO outside. She was like
what. And so I look out the

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window and it's moved from it's hard
to explain. Let's move from here over

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here. Now, what is the
size of the window we're looking at?

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Just to get your aspect, are
you looking straight out? Are you looking

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up? I'm just like a sliding
glass door it's a it's just a wooden

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door and it has a long rectangular
window. Got it. And that picture

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I sent you of, like the
one of the backyard that where the trees

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meet the sky the horizon is roughly
high level, and it's right above the

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horizon, not too high up above. And by the time I come upstairs

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to look out the window, it
had moved from there to here, so

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it had gone over. And in
my mind, I'm thinking, Okay,

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you've been reading about this. Apparently
they're telepath let's test that out. And

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I say, if you can hear
me fly down or I can't remember if

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I said fly down and fly up
and fly over. I think this is

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in your mind, ort and your
mind are out loud? Is in my

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mind, you know, because I
was sitting there and I don't want her

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to think I'm nuts. I'm just
like, uh, you know, fly

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up. And there's a tree that's
in my line of vision, so there's

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branches, and I just see this
thing go like up past the branches and

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I'm like, oh, And then
I'm like, if you can hear me

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fly over, you know, and
again in relation to the branches, it's

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going like and it'll kind of move
over and I just freak out and I

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just shut the blinds and then it's
like, what are you looking at?

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And she comes over and she looks
out the window and I and I just

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see this, like her muscles in
the back of her neck just go like,

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you know, like chills kind of
thing. And she was like,

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I don't see. And if you
knew my wife, you you would know

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that she's like the queen of just
like there's work to be done and I'm

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not dealing with this right block it
out? Hey, David, can can

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you give us an approximate size of
this object compared to either just what you

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think or relative to the other one
you saw? The first one? Big?

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Oh? So this this is a
big one, I would assume.

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Like again, I'm not an aviator, I'm not an aeronautics expert, so

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I'm not a good judge of distance
and height and size. It was far

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away, and that's kind of the
key part of the story, Okay,

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is it's far away. I don't
know if it's not in your yard.

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That's what I'm saying. Again,
he'll be back, I know. You

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know what, though, I'll tell
you what I'm willing to upgrade his internet

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service. You know, just when
you're out of the lake, it happens

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sometimes, Hey, this happened.
You know what. I would like to

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have lake house problems, right exactly. I would like to have a lake

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house. I would like to have
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And I'm sorry, Nathan, bring
back, bring me. It's all

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good, all right, No,
it's fine, man, Okay, I

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was dreaming about lake property. It's
okay, okay, all right, I'm

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back location. I'm back exactly what
I said, Area fifty one. Yeah,

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it's all good. Go ahead.
So as far as how big it

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was, I'm guessing it's it's sizeable, like not like enormous. I don't

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mean like mothership, but like it's
not one of these smaller kind of things

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that that some people see, like
you know, that's you know, roughly

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the size a little bit bigger than
a sedan, but just like a disc.

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Okay, it was bigger than that, h but not like you know,

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mothership kind of thing, but just
a light, just like a white

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light. You know. I just
want to say, just because I haven't

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heard too many of these, but
Angeli's confidant. Nick Larkin said he and

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his mother in the backyard saw one
the size of a football. So imagine,

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you know something comes in your yard
it's the size of football and flies

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away. I mean that's bizarre,
right, bizarre, I can imagine.

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Yeah, So Nick Larkin, what's
up? Brother? Anjelie say hello to

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David John Lanier. All right,
let's go go ahead, brother, Okay,

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And so I I see that shiver
go down my life's spine, and

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I'm like, she's sad, but
she's not gonna admit to it, because

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that's the kind of woman she is, and I don't false her for that.

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We're all different. She gets back
in the bed. I'm freaked out,

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like I'm seriously bothered, like disturbed, because this thing just responded to

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my request, and all this stuff
I'm researching is suddenly like like is this

407
00:33:25.880 --> 00:33:30.680
true? Is this real? I
do take a hot shower until it runs

408
00:33:30.720 --> 00:33:37.920
cold, and then I come into
the bedroom and watch Scrubs, which is

409
00:33:37.960 --> 00:33:43.920
an old TV show. It describes
my sports career actually, But anyway,

410
00:33:43.960 --> 00:33:47.640
go ahead. I just needed I
needed to laugh, and I needed to

411
00:33:47.640 --> 00:33:54.839
think about something else, and this
sadly began about I don't know how long

412
00:33:55.000 --> 00:33:59.880
of me having to sleep with a
light on in the room, grow out

413
00:34:00.440 --> 00:34:04.680
with the night light. Okay.
And I'm not came to admit that because

414
00:34:04.799 --> 00:34:12.719
I just telepathically communicated with a light
in the sky that responded to my request.

415
00:34:13.119 --> 00:34:17.119
I'm freaking out. I'm a little
disturbed. So this is the point

416
00:34:17.159 --> 00:34:29.639
where the story starts getting blurred because
so much happened. M and I want

417
00:34:29.679 --> 00:34:37.079
to make the point that they approached
me in phases, and the first phase

418
00:34:37.639 --> 00:34:44.000
was far away. It was lights
in the upper atmosphere, you know,

419
00:34:44.159 --> 00:34:45.840
like I said, way off.
I don't know how far, but way

420
00:34:45.880 --> 00:34:50.639
off in the horizon. Small.
I mean, I don't think they were

421
00:34:50.639 --> 00:34:57.440
small, but away, okay.
And I saw I had moments like that,

422
00:34:58.039 --> 00:35:00.760
like that little story. I just
told you so many times that I

423
00:35:00.760 --> 00:35:06.239
don't remember all of it. I
do have video footage. I set up

424
00:35:06.239 --> 00:35:08.880
a tripod and I put my little
This was two thousand and nine. I

425
00:35:08.920 --> 00:35:14.239
put my little two thousand and seven
eight millimeter camera on a tripod because this

426
00:35:14.360 --> 00:35:16.320
was happening so frequently that I was
like, I can film this. I

427
00:35:16.360 --> 00:35:20.719
can prove to people this is happening. Because I feel like I'm going crazy,

428
00:35:22.239 --> 00:35:23.480
and you know, I went back
and I looked at some of the

429
00:35:23.519 --> 00:35:30.800
footage, and as time went on, I did kind of go like,

430
00:35:30.880 --> 00:35:36.119
Okay, that's probably a scintillating star. That might be a helicopter, that

431
00:35:36.320 --> 00:35:39.320
might be a plane. I started
that could be a space station, that

432
00:35:39.400 --> 00:35:45.199
might be a satellite. I started
learning about what's in the area also,

433
00:35:45.400 --> 00:35:50.800
and I'll go ahead, you know, full disclosure. I live forty minutes

434
00:35:50.880 --> 00:35:57.360
south of the Redstone Arsenal in Huntsville, which is a major jet propulsion laboratory

435
00:35:57.360 --> 00:36:02.000
for NASA and meant for the army. So there's every chance, you know,

436
00:36:02.119 --> 00:36:07.199
Loue Alizondo was on a podcast recently
saying there's AI being developed that's going

437
00:36:07.239 --> 00:36:10.559
to be able to tell and they've
already run something through. It turns out

438
00:36:10.559 --> 00:36:16.239
it was an army thing, So
I mean, that's very possible. Rightly,

439
00:36:19.199 --> 00:36:23.559
it got closer and it got weirder, and I don't suspect military at

440
00:36:23.599 --> 00:36:28.679
that point, but initially it's far
away, and some of the video footage

441
00:36:28.760 --> 00:36:34.440
I don't even remember taking it.
As far as putting that out, I

442
00:36:34.480 --> 00:36:40.320
don't want to get hammered. You
know, I'm a pretty sensitive person,

443
00:36:42.239 --> 00:36:45.000
and I don't want to get hammered
by people that don't believe me, or

444
00:36:45.039 --> 00:36:49.159
that you know, are going to
mock me and belittle me and try to

445
00:36:49.280 --> 00:36:52.400
ruin my story. I'm kind of
like believing me or not. I might

446
00:36:52.440 --> 00:36:58.800
put it out, but there's a
couple of clips that are pretty interesting,

447
00:36:59.039 --> 00:37:02.199
one of which was during the day
and I can tell you I do remember

448
00:37:02.199 --> 00:37:07.519
one of the daytime signings. I
was, I was googling the occupation in

449
00:37:07.519 --> 00:37:15.159
Afghanistan and I was, you know, so as we lost him again.

450
00:37:15.360 --> 00:37:20.719
Yes, so, guys, we
are calling all beings. I'm your host

451
00:37:20.800 --> 00:37:25.039
DJSM Marco. This is my co
host Nathan at a wave stole and our

452
00:37:25.199 --> 00:37:30.800
guest, Sorry Nathan, I was
and I don't mean to say about it.

453
00:37:30.800 --> 00:37:35.119
And our guest is David John Lanier
trying to tell his story. It's

454
00:37:35.239 --> 00:37:40.480
very difficult to tell these stories because
frankly, probably most of the people that

455
00:37:40.559 --> 00:37:45.360
he tells don't believe him. And
that's why I didn't tell my story for

456
00:37:45.400 --> 00:37:49.920
thirty some odd years. I know
it's real. I don't need Mick West

457
00:37:50.000 --> 00:37:54.159
or somebody to tell me what I
saw. I saw something rise above the

458
00:37:54.159 --> 00:38:00.840
tree line in Sunday night in peak
skill that lit up the entire sky.

459
00:38:00.960 --> 00:38:04.599
I mean that just blew my mind. Yeah, different colors, like yeah,

460
00:38:04.679 --> 00:38:07.039
yeah, totally. It looks like
he's back. So we'll get it

461
00:38:07.079 --> 00:38:14.679
back back. And that is our
aforementioned special guests, David John Lanier.

462
00:38:15.039 --> 00:38:20.320
We are calling all beings. We
love you UFO Twitter, and David's here

463
00:38:20.320 --> 00:38:22.440
to share his story. Please continue, sir. And by the way,

464
00:38:22.880 --> 00:38:28.239
sir h as far as sharing your
your video, you don't have to share

465
00:38:29.039 --> 00:38:32.320
with anybody. You don't have to
get affirmation on it. And one of

466
00:38:32.320 --> 00:38:37.440
the reasons I say that is a
lot of the times it just doesn't show

467
00:38:37.519 --> 00:38:40.840
up on film the way it shows
up. When your eye sees it,

468
00:38:42.440 --> 00:38:45.599
you see it, you know what
you're looking at, and when it is,

469
00:38:45.639 --> 00:38:50.199
you kind of know it is.
And it's not necessarily going to show

470
00:38:50.280 --> 00:38:53.719
up on film. It wasn't meant
to be filmed. It's not man made,

471
00:38:53.760 --> 00:38:58.320
it's not synthetic. So you know
what I mean, So go for

472
00:38:58.360 --> 00:39:02.960
it, brother. One of the
videos, one of the scenes I caught

473
00:39:04.079 --> 00:39:08.239
was during the daytime. I had
multiple daytime sightings and one of which I

474
00:39:08.400 --> 00:39:14.199
was keeping up with the news about
the occupation in Afghanistan and I was learning

475
00:39:14.239 --> 00:39:22.000
about civilian casualties and just the horrible
stuff and just and I don't know why

476
00:39:22.039 --> 00:39:25.320
I was looking at that. Oh
I do know why. It had something

477
00:39:25.360 --> 00:39:28.960
to do with an art and with
my art projects, and I was putting

478
00:39:28.960 --> 00:39:32.079
together a slide show for people,
and there was a lot of you know,

479
00:39:32.159 --> 00:39:36.760
innocent civilian war casualties that were part
of the slides. Maybe it had

480
00:39:36.760 --> 00:39:40.400
something to do with it. I
don't know. But I started crying because

481
00:39:40.440 --> 00:39:46.000
I'm thefy and so I went outside
and there was like the starring this guy,

482
00:39:46.440 --> 00:39:51.440
Like two three in the afternoon,
there's a starring this guy. I'm

483
00:39:51.480 --> 00:39:52.320
like, oh my god, it's
one of those things. Run back inside

484
00:39:52.360 --> 00:39:55.920
to get a camera, run back
out, it's gone. And that kind

485
00:39:55.920 --> 00:40:00.880
of thing happened multiple times, like
something that looked like a hope can or

486
00:40:00.880 --> 00:40:06.039
something just sideways like this, it's
not a satellite. Satellite aren't that low

487
00:40:06.079 --> 00:40:10.320
in the sky. You know.
There were a couple of daytime sightings like

488
00:40:10.400 --> 00:40:15.199
that. Most of them were at
nighttime. But again during this phase of

489
00:40:15.239 --> 00:40:22.920
it, it's far away. So
again when I go back and look at

490
00:40:22.960 --> 00:40:30.679
these videos, I don't even remember
taking any of them halfway. And so

491
00:40:30.760 --> 00:40:36.519
this this whole part of the story
just gets confusing. I don't. And

492
00:40:36.960 --> 00:40:44.960
it was ten years ago, you
know, and so they got progressively closer

493
00:40:45.480 --> 00:40:53.119
these things. The first one I
remember being really close. I just saw,

494
00:40:53.880 --> 00:41:00.760
you know, coming in at my
house sits at a thousand feet above

495
00:41:00.840 --> 00:41:07.719
sea level. Wow, it's probably
this thing's probably one hundred and fifty feet

496
00:41:07.719 --> 00:41:14.480
in the air. And it seems
this red light in an orange light like

497
00:41:14.800 --> 00:41:17.840
way far apart, coming right at
me over the field. I don't have

498
00:41:17.840 --> 00:41:24.800
any recollection why I was outside or
its approached. I just remember just the

499
00:41:24.840 --> 00:41:28.480
red light and orange light and they're
far apart. I was like, that

500
00:41:28.599 --> 00:41:31.760
is a big ass plane not making
any sound on the other side of the

501
00:41:31.800 --> 00:41:38.840
trees. And then the orange light
it turns it like pivots, and the

502
00:41:38.880 --> 00:41:44.079
red light kind of stays in one
position, and the orange light goes like

503
00:41:44.159 --> 00:41:52.119
this, and then it flies directly
over me and it's and then it turns

504
00:41:52.119 --> 00:41:55.519
a white light on on the other
end, and I see it and it's

505
00:41:55.519 --> 00:42:01.400
a triangle. It's just this big
black triangle, I mean, easily the

506
00:42:01.440 --> 00:42:07.159
size of my house, if not
bigger, and it has this big protruding

507
00:42:07.400 --> 00:42:12.679
like bowl off the bottom of it. I say, bowl because that's the

508
00:42:12.719 --> 00:42:16.199
shape, so you're kind of you
were kind of at an off angle to

509
00:42:16.239 --> 00:42:21.079
it. Then you weren't directly underneath
it. You could tell that well,

510
00:42:22.679 --> 00:42:28.320
yeah, I guess so, I
guess. So it had like you could

511
00:42:28.400 --> 00:42:30.440
kind of it was like it was
nighttime, but the moon was bright,

512
00:42:31.199 --> 00:42:37.239
and you could kind of see like
this kind of silvery gray black metalitic sheen

513
00:42:37.480 --> 00:42:44.199
to it at the bottom of it. On the big bowl that was off

514
00:42:44.239 --> 00:42:47.039
the bottom, it had like a
series of holes, just black holes.

515
00:42:47.639 --> 00:42:52.800
I don't know. It was just
a square grid of black holes on the

516
00:42:52.800 --> 00:43:00.239
bottom of his bowl. And then
suddenly the grids light up and it just

517
00:43:00.239 --> 00:43:06.920
makes this pattern that's like brail.
It looks like brail. And then they

518
00:43:06.960 --> 00:43:10.639
go through and all the lights go
off, and then it goes boo and

519
00:43:10.679 --> 00:43:15.440
it makes another pattern that's different,
still looks like brail. All the lights

520
00:43:15.440 --> 00:43:20.599
go off. It does this like
three or four times. So you're looking

521
00:43:20.679 --> 00:43:23.920
at the bottom of it. Now
it's almost like hovering above your property.

522
00:43:24.039 --> 00:43:28.440
Yeah, it's hovering above me.
I mean you're right above you, right

523
00:43:28.440 --> 00:43:32.039
above you. Yeah, it is
a little offset like it's not directly but

524
00:43:32.239 --> 00:43:39.960
it's it's a little over m but
I just think like that thing, whatever

525
00:43:40.000 --> 00:43:47.719
it is, is flashing lights at
me right like, it's not it's it's

526
00:43:49.400 --> 00:43:55.199
it's waving at me. Is trying
to Yeah, is your wife like is

527
00:43:55.239 --> 00:44:00.880
she freaking out? Like are you
freaking out? Oh? No, no,

528
00:44:00.199 --> 00:44:07.159
she was doing this is great.
Hey, honey, get back in

529
00:44:07.199 --> 00:44:13.000
here. Your underwear is almost man
again. All right. She might be

530
00:44:13.039 --> 00:44:17.199
on PlayStation three right now, that
might be or on twitch. So okay,

531
00:44:19.280 --> 00:44:22.119
yeah, this is really interesting.
Now imagine you're having a contact,

532
00:44:22.239 --> 00:44:27.400
Nathan where you're like, right under
craft. Yeah, no, it's hard

533
00:44:27.440 --> 00:44:30.800
to hard to imagine that for sure, a lot more visceral than what hey,

534
00:44:31.199 --> 00:44:36.440
if your wife's some PlayStation three,
tell her that she can get kid.

535
00:44:37.559 --> 00:44:43.639
It's just I'm sorry, it's all
good. I'm assuming that due to

536
00:44:43.719 --> 00:44:46.920
the data transfer, I've probably got
like five ten minute windows before I fart

537
00:44:46.960 --> 00:44:51.880
out. No, it's all good. We're happy. I mean, like

538
00:44:51.960 --> 00:44:53.239
you've already I'm sorry, go ahead, and Nathan, because you well yeah,

539
00:44:53.280 --> 00:44:59.159
so okay, So just a quick
recap. So the experiences, the

540
00:44:59.239 --> 00:45:04.760
contact, the sightings, they've been
increasing over time since two thousand and seven,

541
00:45:04.800 --> 00:45:07.639
when they you kind of had another
experience with them, and now you've

542
00:45:07.639 --> 00:45:14.480
got a large black triangle in the
night sky. There's a moon out in

543
00:45:14.519 --> 00:45:20.119
the sky as well, but this
triangle has a rounded, sort of glowing

544
00:45:20.239 --> 00:45:24.480
white bowl in the center of it, and at the bottom of that bowl,

545
00:45:24.920 --> 00:45:28.679
sort of facing the ground, is
a you described it as kind of

546
00:45:28.719 --> 00:45:36.440
a square grid like pattern of dots
that are animated in a way that almost

547
00:45:36.440 --> 00:45:40.599
like a pixel screen that can kind
of pop in and out of those little

548
00:45:40.599 --> 00:45:45.280
black pixels can pop in and out
and change configurations. That is that an

549
00:45:45.280 --> 00:45:51.760
accurate recap pretty much? The bowl
itself off the bottom was black and the

550
00:45:52.199 --> 00:45:57.800
ball was black, but it was
almost like a recessed lighting there in those

551
00:45:57.840 --> 00:46:01.480
little black slot. Yeah, within
the black holes there were lights, and

552
00:46:01.519 --> 00:46:05.920
then the lights were coming on in
a pattern. Gotcha, Okay, so

553
00:46:06.079 --> 00:46:10.280
thank you flying over me. And
I you know, of course, I'm

554
00:46:10.440 --> 00:46:17.320
just like I'm freaking out, and
I go inside and I just hear static

555
00:46:17.440 --> 00:46:22.559
in my ear, just in my
head, just like like ring ringing in

556
00:46:22.599 --> 00:46:27.880
my ears. And I sit down
at the bottom step of the basement and

557
00:46:27.960 --> 00:46:30.079
my wife's doing laundry, and she's
like, what's wrong, And I'm like,

558
00:46:30.679 --> 00:46:36.280
I just saw a UFO again.
And she was like, you know,

559
00:46:36.280 --> 00:46:37.480
in her mind, she's like,
you need to stop with that.

560
00:46:38.519 --> 00:46:43.400
You know, it's bothering me clearly. I was like I can't help it.

561
00:46:43.960 --> 00:46:49.840
I was like, I didn't ask
for this. She's like, hell

562
00:46:49.960 --> 00:46:53.480
yeah, I'm asking for it.
So then I hear in my head and

563
00:46:53.599 --> 00:46:59.719
this is the first time I hear
a voice okay yeah, And I know

564
00:46:59.800 --> 00:47:05.639
this sounds like schizophrenic, but this, you know, I haven't had anything

565
00:47:05.679 --> 00:47:15.239
like that happened before or since.
And and it's like this almost like the

566
00:47:15.440 --> 00:47:22.840
vibe of what they're saying is just
like calm down, like almost like damn

567
00:47:22.920 --> 00:47:29.519
dude, like everything's fine, We're
not gonna hurt you, almost like like

568
00:47:29.559 --> 00:47:34.239
when a child gets scared of thunder. Yeah, and you're like it's okay,

569
00:47:34.320 --> 00:47:37.519
Jesus, okay, okay. You
know, it's like it's like that

570
00:47:37.599 --> 00:47:42.199
kind of tone. And I'm like, get out of my head. I'm

571
00:47:42.239 --> 00:47:46.559
going nuts. And I go into
my little basement office and all my studio

572
00:47:46.599 --> 00:47:52.880
equipment is has gone into disco mode
okay, which means all the lights are

573
00:47:52.880 --> 00:47:55.840
flashing and the levers are moving,
and my computer's started out, and my

574
00:47:57.960 --> 00:48:04.480
other electronic equipments parted out. Is
that coincidental? Maybe probably? And so

575
00:48:06.480 --> 00:48:12.559
that was like the first kind of
like close because again it's it's going in

576
00:48:12.599 --> 00:48:17.519
phases. It's it's way out here, it's getting closer, and now it's

577
00:48:17.639 --> 00:48:24.840
it's like on me. And so
this starts like the second phase of crafts

578
00:48:24.880 --> 00:48:37.280
being in close proximity and hearing voices. And I mean one time I heard

579
00:48:37.320 --> 00:48:38.280
I was sitting in the living room. I heard a voice, It's like,

580
00:48:38.360 --> 00:48:43.440
come outside, and this was like
the female voice. Some of it

581
00:48:43.480 --> 00:48:47.920
was like the group talking. It
sounded like multiple people talking at once,

582
00:48:49.760 --> 00:48:53.039
and then one was like a female
voice, like if you talked into an

583
00:48:53.039 --> 00:48:58.880
empty ten bucket way it kind of
echoes back in your ears, has like

584
00:48:58.920 --> 00:49:02.679
that pain to it, you know, and picked up but like a female

585
00:49:02.800 --> 00:49:09.559
voice, but in my head mhm. And oddly enough, I've met somebody

586
00:49:09.639 --> 00:49:14.559
on UFO Twitter two people that have
heard the same thing. And then I

587
00:49:14.639 --> 00:49:17.719
watched that documentary the other night on
Netflix, The Unclassified Thing, and I

588
00:49:17.719 --> 00:49:30.000
didn't even realize the past goula guy
in Mississippi and no, and so I

589
00:49:30.079 --> 00:49:32.840
don't realize it at the time,
but I hear this voice say come outside

590
00:49:32.840 --> 00:49:36.559
and go outside, there's like,
you know, white light in the sky.

591
00:49:37.280 --> 00:49:46.239
Mhm. And you know, I
mean again, I'm outside of me,

592
00:49:46.199 --> 00:49:51.239
in my backyard. I could just
go on and on, and I

593
00:49:51.320 --> 00:49:53.679
look off to the left, you
know, I showed you the woodlands out

594
00:49:53.719 --> 00:49:59.320
there and off therion, off the
horizon, I just see these two white

595
00:49:59.400 --> 00:50:04.440
lights and red light. Slowly right
there's a radio tower on a hill,

596
00:50:04.920 --> 00:50:08.440
and it's slowly rising like this,
you know, next to the radio tower,

597
00:50:08.480 --> 00:50:13.239
as if to say, do you
see me moving up? And not

598
00:50:13.679 --> 00:50:17.119
at you? But I'm going like, no way, that's a plane coming.

599
00:50:17.199 --> 00:50:22.440
And just because of the whatever,
you know, it looks like it's

600
00:50:22.599 --> 00:50:24.760
rising. And then the two white
lights go off, the red light goes

601
00:50:24.800 --> 00:50:32.280
off, and then across the front
of the wingspan was just like these lights

602
00:50:32.320 --> 00:50:37.159
like purple and green and white,
and I think orange was in there,

603
00:50:37.159 --> 00:50:42.079
definitely purple and green and white,
just like a p Floyd laser light show.

604
00:50:44.639 --> 00:50:45.920
And then they all went off,
and the two white lights came back

605
00:50:45.960 --> 00:50:50.320
on, and the red light came
back on. And now it's not moving

606
00:50:50.400 --> 00:50:53.840
up anymore, and this is miles
away. It's not moving up anymore.

607
00:50:53.960 --> 00:51:00.119
It's moving at me. And then
again the two white lights go off,

608
00:51:00.119 --> 00:51:06.400
the red lights go off, the
you know, the roll lights go off,

609
00:51:06.800 --> 00:51:08.360
and then they the two white lights
come off. So do you see

610
00:51:08.400 --> 00:51:13.800
what I'm saying. It's kind of
sequencing between whatever's across the wingspan and these

611
00:51:13.840 --> 00:51:15.840
two white lights and the red light
underneath. And then I go like,

612
00:51:16.119 --> 00:51:20.800
oh god, that's one of those
things. And so I turn around to

613
00:51:20.960 --> 00:51:23.960
walk back to my basement door.
And I've counted the steps. It's thirty

614
00:51:23.960 --> 00:51:31.719
steps and you know, thirty seconds
or less walking quickly back to my basement

615
00:51:31.760 --> 00:51:35.840
door. I turn around and this
thing is on me. It has gone

616
00:51:36.000 --> 00:51:44.599
miles in less than thirty seconds or
less. And it's like, okay,

617
00:51:45.360 --> 00:51:52.400
here's me and this thing is like
here, and I can see it's a

618
00:51:52.440 --> 00:51:59.400
boomerang. Okay, oh wow,
okay, but it's angled. Okay,

619
00:51:59.400 --> 00:52:04.480
if my hand was the boomerang,
it's angled like this, okay, where

620
00:52:04.559 --> 00:52:07.639
the front of it is facing me, and I can see the points of

621
00:52:07.760 --> 00:52:12.559
the top of the wing form pointing
at an angle up in the sky.

622
00:52:12.599 --> 00:52:17.199
And I'm like, that's not flying, that's hanging because the no aerodynamics happening

623
00:52:17.280 --> 00:52:23.639
at all, and that is the
boomerang. And then and it's right above

624
00:52:23.639 --> 00:52:29.800
a tree, and the average tree
is about one hundred feet tall, and

625
00:52:29.880 --> 00:52:32.920
so it's probably like one ten,
one twenty, you know, pretty close.

626
00:52:34.440 --> 00:52:37.280
And again with the lights across the
front of them, but this time

627
00:52:37.320 --> 00:52:42.519
it's close, and I'm like and
not unlike that black triangle. I'm like,

628
00:52:42.559 --> 00:52:46.719
this thing is going like hey,
you know, like it's it sees

629
00:52:46.840 --> 00:52:58.159
me seeing it, and it's just
even. And so I don't remember it

630
00:52:58.400 --> 00:53:04.320
moving from angle and facing me to
right above me. But when it's right

631
00:53:04.360 --> 00:53:07.320
above me, it's a lot closer, like it's a low tree top and

632
00:53:07.400 --> 00:53:12.280
I'm guessing fifty sixty and the two
white lights on the bottom and the red

633
00:53:12.360 --> 00:53:15.280
light cast this like pink glow on
the bottom. I can see it clear

634
00:53:15.320 --> 00:53:20.440
as day. It looks like a
croissant or a bloomerang or a banana.

635
00:53:20.719 --> 00:53:24.480
And I'm just going like, and
it has like it looks like ice cream

636
00:53:24.519 --> 00:53:30.239
cones with a scoop of ice cream, almost like bird breasts on the bottom

637
00:53:30.280 --> 00:53:34.639
of it. Okay, yep,
yep. It's making like a low like

638
00:53:34.679 --> 00:53:39.000
a luxury car that's in idle,
like something's running, but it's not roaring.

639
00:53:39.639 --> 00:53:44.519
Kind of a hum, kind of
a hum to it, and it

640
00:53:44.559 --> 00:53:46.400
passes over, and this was one
of the few. And I don't know

641
00:53:46.440 --> 00:53:52.920
if this was before or after all
the other stuff, but like, I

642
00:53:52.960 --> 00:53:57.559
didn't I wasn't scared. This one
didn't freak me out. And it wasn't

643
00:53:57.599 --> 00:54:00.000
big. It was you know,
it would have been big enough for two

644
00:54:00.000 --> 00:54:07.559
adults to sit in maybe, And
it flies over and I'm watched it fly

645
00:54:07.679 --> 00:54:10.239
over and the two white lights on
the box side of the wing, which

646
00:54:10.239 --> 00:54:13.639
by the way, I could see
when it flies over, and they were

647
00:54:13.679 --> 00:54:16.639
like, it was just so smooth, like it didn't look like it was

648
00:54:17.400 --> 00:54:22.159
nothing was bolted, there were no
flaps, there was no soldering. It

649
00:54:22.239 --> 00:54:28.920
just looked like it was just neatly
tucked into it the two white lights.

650
00:54:29.800 --> 00:54:32.079
And the two white lights went off
as it goes off, and then the

651
00:54:32.119 --> 00:54:37.440
red light drops just like goes but
it maintains pace with it. It's probably

652
00:54:37.440 --> 00:54:42.320
going about this fast, and the
red light just drops and maintains pace and

653
00:54:42.320 --> 00:54:45.000
it's about ten fifteen feet below it, and I'm like, dude, that's

654
00:54:45.000 --> 00:54:47.440
one of those orbs. That's not
a light that's attached to the craft.

655
00:54:47.440 --> 00:54:54.280
That's one of those orbs. And
it's red. And then the back God

656
00:54:54.360 --> 00:54:59.039
just hurts my head. The back
of the craft where the tips of the

657
00:54:59.079 --> 00:55:02.000
wings would have been this, these
red lights come on the back of it,

658
00:55:02.079 --> 00:55:07.480
and they just multiply a layer,
and the craft looks to get thicker,

659
00:55:08.119 --> 00:55:15.239
like it its depth grew. These
series of white light red lights came

660
00:55:15.280 --> 00:55:19.679
on off on the back of and
I am awake, I am sober,

661
00:55:19.840 --> 00:55:22.840
I'm not on drugs, I'm not
drunk. It was Easter Sunday. My

662
00:55:22.960 --> 00:55:29.639
kids were walking Easter eggs up the
hill, you know, several acres away

663
00:55:29.679 --> 00:55:34.039
at the neighbor's house, and this
thing flies over where they are. A

664
00:55:34.039 --> 00:55:37.119
little white light turns on on top
of it. The red light disappears,

665
00:55:37.199 --> 00:55:40.039
the white lights come back on.
I was like, it's pretending to be

666
00:55:40.119 --> 00:55:45.559
a plane, and then it kind
of angles and just flies off over the

667
00:55:45.639 --> 00:55:53.199
horizon of the streets. So,
you know, And so if I understand

668
00:55:53.199 --> 00:56:00.440
now, David, your your wife
doesn't want you to interact with these and

669
00:56:00.480 --> 00:56:07.480
what draws you to the interaction.
I don't know. I'm not requesting this.

670
00:56:07.039 --> 00:56:13.800
I'm not No C five was performed, no d MT trip was done.

671
00:56:14.320 --> 00:56:19.559
There was no means of any kind
of connection being made that they sought

672
00:56:19.679 --> 00:56:23.280
me out. I'm convinced of them, but in your your feeling, like

673
00:56:23.280 --> 00:56:28.400
because if they if they say to
you come outside, and you go outside,

674
00:56:29.519 --> 00:56:35.599
something's telling you to go outside.
Yes, I don't is it your

675
00:56:35.639 --> 00:56:38.960
heart? No, it's like it's
literal. It's that voice, that that

676
00:56:38.960 --> 00:56:44.199
that I describe like when you're talking
into a tin can, like it's do

677
00:56:44.280 --> 00:56:50.199
you It's like, okay, do
you feel compelled or do you feel how

678
00:56:50.239 --> 00:56:52.320
do I say this? Do you
feel it was of your own volition or

679
00:56:52.320 --> 00:56:58.639
do you feel like you were compelled
to go outside and interact. I remember

680
00:56:58.719 --> 00:57:02.719
being like son of a bit now
what you know, like kind of annoyed

681
00:57:02.719 --> 00:57:07.960
by it in a way a little. And I remember sending a text to

682
00:57:07.000 --> 00:57:12.719
my wife like another UFO just flew
over boomerang and close could have thrown a

683
00:57:12.800 --> 00:57:15.039
rock at it, you know,
and these people that are like, oh

684
00:57:15.199 --> 00:57:17.920
wow, okay, let me back
up. I don't mean to mock it

685
00:57:17.960 --> 00:57:22.639
because I don't know, but that
this idea that it's just an extension of

686
00:57:22.679 --> 00:57:30.000
ourselves or we manifested from our own
mind. I'm like, dude, thing

687
00:57:30.079 --> 00:57:34.960
with the rock and it would have
gone thunk. Yeah, I'm in close.

688
00:57:35.480 --> 00:57:38.480
I'm in close. Proximity to the
NASA Jet Propulsion Lab. Is that

689
00:57:38.639 --> 00:57:44.079
something out of there? I have
no idea, but these things are getting

690
00:57:44.119 --> 00:57:50.599
closer and closer, and the shapes
are varying wildly. Now there, I

691
00:57:50.639 --> 00:57:53.239
hate stop me if if I'm boring
you guys, Well, no, I

692
00:57:53.280 --> 00:57:58.559
actually have a question, and I
apologize if you are going to get to

693
00:57:58.639 --> 00:58:04.960
this, but all right, we'll
come back to it soon. The Cliffhanger

694
00:58:05.119 --> 00:58:09.119
question. There, See, when
Nathan gets a question, it really something

695
00:58:09.159 --> 00:58:15.519
happens in the universe. That's how
good it is. We are calling all

696
00:58:15.559 --> 00:58:21.880
beings. We are not going to
talk about our Powerhouse round table that we're

697
00:58:21.920 --> 00:58:23.719
in the process of playing right now. We are going to talk to David

698
00:58:23.760 --> 00:58:29.360
John Lanier, and Nathan has a
question that he would like to post to

699
00:58:29.400 --> 00:58:31.440
you. Please go ahead, my
good friend. Yeah. So, David,

700
00:58:31.679 --> 00:58:37.480
when we talked earlier, you had
mentioned to us that you had had

701
00:58:37.960 --> 00:58:45.800
a physical effect on I think your
arm or something like that. Is that

702
00:58:45.880 --> 00:58:52.960
before or after this incident during like
as they're getting closer, like they went

703
00:58:52.039 --> 00:58:59.199
from just being the lights to progressively
getting closer to the point where I'm seeing

704
00:58:59.199 --> 00:59:02.760
like boomerangs fifty to sixty feet above
my head that I could literally with a

705
00:59:02.920 --> 00:59:09.360
rock. And it was during that
time that these kinds of things were happening,

706
00:59:10.239 --> 00:59:15.320
which really freaked me out. And
I should also add that at this

707
00:59:15.360 --> 00:59:19.400
point I had stopped filming because this
was, you know, two thousand and

708
00:59:19.480 --> 00:59:24.239
nine, twenty ten, and I
just kind of felt like it was really

709
00:59:24.559 --> 00:59:30.599
personal and they would come closer if
I stopped filming. And at one point

710
00:59:31.199 --> 00:59:37.599
they told me, I don't know, oh my god, that to stop

711
00:59:37.679 --> 00:59:43.599
talking about it, to stop filming
it, and so you know, I

712
00:59:43.679 --> 00:59:45.320
did, and that's when they started
getting real close, and I was like,

713
00:59:45.360 --> 00:59:47.800
Okay, this is like just a
one on one thing. This is

714
00:59:47.880 --> 00:59:52.000
like they don't want everybody knowing this
is going on. This is just personal.

715
00:59:52.039 --> 00:59:54.840
This is very personal. They don't
want other people to know what's going

716
00:59:54.880 --> 00:59:59.199
on. If I don't film it, they get closer and I can figure

717
00:59:59.239 --> 01:00:04.119
out what's going on the thought of
this, Yeah, do I need to

718
01:00:04.159 --> 01:00:07.920
wait? Did he just don't know? He's I think he just turned so,

719
01:00:09.480 --> 01:00:15.519
you know. And then so it
has kind of an intimacy to it

720
01:00:15.559 --> 01:00:19.360
in a way, like like this
was meant for you or just meant for

721
01:00:19.400 --> 01:00:22.920
you, only really not meant for
other people to know about. Yeah,

722
01:00:22.960 --> 01:00:27.159
pretty much. Uh, and that
kind of ties in later. And this

723
01:00:27.239 --> 01:00:30.920
is why it just gets so confusing, because I could go on and on.

724
01:00:30.519 --> 01:00:36.559
There was a there was a metallic
sphere, just a boom that came.

725
01:00:36.760 --> 01:00:40.360
Again. These things are like below
tree top level, so I'm assuming

726
01:00:40.760 --> 01:00:45.199
between eighty two hundred feet like clear
most of the all the time at night.

727
01:00:46.079 --> 01:00:50.719
There was one craft I saw during
the day. I'm not sure what

728
01:00:50.840 --> 01:00:54.000
it was, but do that did
this? You need to come back.

729
01:00:54.639 --> 01:00:58.519
He asked me to pick him off
the stage for a second, so you're

730
01:00:58.519 --> 01:01:06.360
good. Just keep going. So
the sphere is coming below tree top level,

731
01:01:07.159 --> 01:01:09.519
and it has like it's just like
a ball. I don't know how

732
01:01:09.559 --> 01:01:15.000
big it is, probably like,
oh, you know, it's not big,

733
01:01:15.440 --> 01:01:19.119
ten to fifteen feet in diameter,
give or take, you know,

734
01:01:19.400 --> 01:01:23.760
five feet towards twenty not towards five
feet. It's just this ball. And

735
01:01:24.320 --> 01:01:30.559
it has like these little red lights
that are above and below it, probably

736
01:01:30.599 --> 01:01:34.920
about eight or nine small red lights
above and below it. And they're undulating,

737
01:01:35.360 --> 01:01:38.360
just like getting does that make any
sense, Like they're getting further away

738
01:01:38.360 --> 01:01:45.000
and closer, and they look to
be attached to antenna. Okay, Okay,

739
01:01:45.079 --> 01:01:50.159
these aren't orbs, because now I're
attached to some kind of antenna and

740
01:01:50.760 --> 01:01:55.360
they're undulating, and it's flying again. It's not high, less than one

741
01:01:55.400 --> 01:02:00.920
hundred feet, not far away,
less than fifty yards away. And again

742
01:02:00.960 --> 01:02:04.280
at this point, it's like so
regular that I'm just like, well,

743
01:02:04.400 --> 01:02:08.000
why now? And so this this
light comes on, like a headlight,

744
01:02:08.440 --> 01:02:12.880
just a single light, just just
right ahead up. So it's going like

745
01:02:12.920 --> 01:02:17.079
this, this metal orb this light
comes on, shines straight ahead, and

746
01:02:17.119 --> 01:02:23.400
then the light of it shines on
me, and it shines on me for

747
01:02:23.559 --> 01:02:30.400
like oh like one Mississippi two,
Mississippi three, Mississippi four, Mississippi five,

748
01:02:30.400 --> 01:02:34.480
Mississippi. This swings the light forward, and I don't remember what happened

749
01:02:34.519 --> 01:02:39.719
after that. I'm not saying anything
weird happened in that thing. I don't

750
01:02:39.760 --> 01:02:45.440
know what's going on. Right,
it's too small, excuse me? Yeah,

751
01:02:45.480 --> 01:02:49.320
Like I would guess somewhere between ten
to twenty feet in diameter, got

752
01:02:49.320 --> 01:02:57.199
it roughly. And I guess I'm
telling these particular instances because these are where

753
01:02:57.239 --> 01:03:00.760
they were shining lights on me as
if to community. But now we've got

754
01:03:00.800 --> 01:03:05.119
a triangle, we've got uber,
we've got spear, and I'm going like,

755
01:03:05.360 --> 01:03:09.039
is this a parade? Am I
being privvy to multiple species? Right

756
01:03:09.039 --> 01:03:13.519
now? What have I done?
What do you want with me? What's

757
01:03:13.559 --> 01:03:17.639
happening? There was another where it
was just an X. I've heard of

758
01:03:17.639 --> 01:03:22.599
that before. I thought I was
going nuts. I don't tell people about

759
01:03:22.599 --> 01:03:27.840
it because I'm like, I've never
heard of an X shaped craft literally not

760
01:03:27.960 --> 01:03:31.559
much bigger than my car. And
then on, okay, here's the X

761
01:03:31.599 --> 01:03:38.079
and on two of the points there's
red lights and they're swimming through the air

762
01:03:38.159 --> 01:03:45.440
like this. They're just going like
and I mean they're swimming around the craft.

763
01:03:45.639 --> 01:03:51.480
M h. And I have no
recollection of what happens after before why

764
01:03:51.559 --> 01:03:53.639
I was standing there. I'm not
saying anything weird happened. It was ten

765
01:03:53.719 --> 01:03:59.639
years ago. I just that's all
I remember. There was another work.

766
01:04:00.599 --> 01:04:06.320
There were like these four gigantic orbs
of orange light, probably twenty to thirty

767
01:04:06.320 --> 01:04:12.320
feet in diameter, all next to
each other in a row, just boo.

768
01:04:12.559 --> 01:04:18.119
And then there was a smaller fifth
one in the middle above before and

769
01:04:18.159 --> 01:04:24.679
they were just slowly drifting at me. I ran sign, I ran sky,

770
01:04:25.039 --> 01:04:28.800
I don't my mind took another hot
shower till the water ran cold,

771
01:04:29.519 --> 01:04:36.679
I you know, and so I
could go on and on and on.

772
01:04:36.760 --> 01:04:41.519
You know, let's let us.
You know, a lot of people that

773
01:04:42.039 --> 01:04:47.400
follow ufology have seen something, and
now we've it's actually interesting. You've probably

774
01:04:47.440 --> 01:04:54.440
seen more shape craft than anybody that
I've talked to other than probably Louelizondo has

775
01:04:54.559 --> 01:04:58.480
probably seen you know, every shape
that's out there. But I think what

776
01:04:58.639 --> 01:05:04.519
is fascinating to to the viewers is
to hear about experiences that you had with

777
01:05:04.639 --> 01:05:09.400
them. And as we've gone just
a little bit over an hour, so

778
01:05:09.440 --> 01:05:13.400
tell us about the interactions that you
had to the extent that you want to.

779
01:05:13.440 --> 01:05:15.960
And if that's not something that you
want to talk about one hundred percent,

780
01:05:16.159 --> 01:05:20.960
don't talk about it. But the
things that you told us were pretty

781
01:05:21.000 --> 01:05:25.119
interesting that you have between you,
your wife, and some members of your

782
01:05:25.119 --> 01:05:34.079
family. Okay, so real quick, I saw another black triangle that was

783
01:05:34.159 --> 01:05:41.239
much smaller over an intersection and it
looked like the t R three B thing.

784
01:05:42.400 --> 01:05:45.480
It was. It was little,
and there were people around, and

785
01:05:45.800 --> 01:05:49.960
nobody looked up and I was like, oh wow, crazy, Like is

786
01:05:50.000 --> 01:05:55.400
this am I crazy? Are you
all crazy? Are you that numb?

787
01:05:56.639 --> 01:06:00.639
And then there was a second where
it another one flew over. I mean,

788
01:06:00.800 --> 01:06:05.480
lo, just this giant ass,
Oh my god, like Safari hat

789
01:06:05.519 --> 01:06:10.239
looking thing. I'm looking at.
Everybody's just talking and I looked up.

790
01:06:11.320 --> 01:06:15.320
Nobody's looking up, and I'm like, what is happening? And at this

791
01:06:15.400 --> 01:06:17.880
point I had disconnected myself from ufology
and from the study of it because I

792
01:06:17.920 --> 01:06:23.719
didn't want I'm gonna do a bias
to occur and for me to be like

793
01:06:23.840 --> 01:06:28.159
confused by the issue. I was
just letting this naturally be what it was.

794
01:06:28.199 --> 01:06:30.679
And I was like, these people
are not seeing what I'm seeing,

795
01:06:30.960 --> 01:06:34.800
where they're numb to it or I'm
going crazy. It's one of the three.

796
01:06:35.440 --> 01:06:42.199
And if this is the military,
is there like a gold mine under

797
01:06:42.239 --> 01:06:49.880
my house or something? What's going
on? So? Wow? Well,

798
01:06:50.039 --> 01:06:54.400
you know, Richard Dreyfus, the
character and Close Encounters, felt the same

799
01:06:54.440 --> 01:06:58.440
way. He felt like, am
I going crazy? And supposedly that story

800
01:06:58.519 --> 01:07:01.119
is based on real based on real
event? Is that right, Nathan?

801
01:07:01.719 --> 01:07:06.599
That some of that is based on
real events? Steven Spielberg did his homework.

802
01:07:08.079 --> 01:07:10.800
Oh he did, Yeah, he
did. And Jean Valley was a

803
01:07:10.840 --> 01:07:14.840
consultant on that. I'm sure it
was kind of like a culmination of a

804
01:07:14.880 --> 01:07:16.880
lot of things. And I mean
I was living at this point. I

805
01:07:16.920 --> 01:07:28.079
was building mashed potato mountains, hopefully
with gravy on there. But like I'm

806
01:07:28.280 --> 01:07:30.880
metaphorically speaking, it was getting to
that point where I'm like, dude,

807
01:07:31.199 --> 01:07:36.920
And so now my wife is getting
on board. She's like because she sees

808
01:07:36.960 --> 01:07:42.079
one with me. Mm hmm.
We're leaving to go somewhere with the kids

809
01:07:42.079 --> 01:07:46.000
in the car. Oh my god, and there's this safari hat looking thing

810
01:07:46.159 --> 01:07:50.239
coming through the trees. I mean, it's so far down in the trees

811
01:07:50.360 --> 01:07:57.079
that it's in the forest coming up
the trail, and it's got like two

812
01:07:57.119 --> 01:07:59.920
headlights shining right at me. I
was like, Anna, do you see

813
01:08:00.480 --> 01:08:01.199
She's like, yes, I see
it. Get in the car. I

814
01:08:01.239 --> 01:08:05.440
was like, this is historic.
Do you see this? She was like,

815
01:08:05.639 --> 01:08:10.639
get in the car. I was
like hey, and I get in

816
01:08:10.679 --> 01:08:15.880
the car and we leave. But
it had gotten like that casual where this

817
01:08:15.039 --> 01:08:23.399
was just like, so my wife's
getting on board now because she's seeing stuff.

818
01:08:23.800 --> 01:08:29.119
Ms here seeing stuff my older daughter
has seen like some kind of green

819
01:08:29.560 --> 01:08:30.960
so trying to explain it to me, like some kind of green disc with

820
01:08:31.039 --> 01:08:36.239
green lights on the outside. It
was like rotating around over there. Hey,

821
01:08:36.319 --> 01:08:41.880
David, did did the conversation between
you and your wife shift at this

822
01:08:42.000 --> 01:08:45.159
point? Because now, up to
then it had been you seeing things and

823
01:08:45.199 --> 01:08:48.720
her telling you, you know,
get inside, don't go look for these

824
01:08:48.760 --> 01:08:53.920
things, and now she saw it. Did anything change at that point?

825
01:08:56.000 --> 01:09:00.439
Yes, And that's where things shifted
to can you I'll hear me, yes,

826
01:09:01.000 --> 01:09:09.960
Okay, that's when things shifted to
phase three, where that now we're

827
01:09:09.960 --> 01:09:15.560
seeing beings. So one night or
one morning, I wake up, okay,

828
01:09:15.560 --> 01:09:18.920
and keep in mind, all this
stuff is going on and I and

829
01:09:19.039 --> 01:09:24.520
that's not even I have told a
fraction of what I saw because I just

830
01:09:24.760 --> 01:09:30.520
I'm I'm I'm getting into like a
manic episode while I'm trying to explain all

831
01:09:30.680 --> 01:09:35.399
this this stuff. And I'll leave
from this conversation and remember more craft.

832
01:09:36.319 --> 01:09:40.800
I could just go on and on
the point is they're getting close. They're

833
01:09:40.880 --> 01:09:45.359
following me around, okay. Like
I went to Atlanta. I took my

834
01:09:45.439 --> 01:09:47.840
dad to a braids game and thought, in my mind, I want one

835
01:09:47.880 --> 01:09:51.399
of these things to show up,
and sure enough, one did, and

836
01:09:51.399 --> 01:09:54.199
my sister was with me. I
was like, do you see that?

837
01:09:54.279 --> 01:09:57.279
She looked at me. She's like
David stop. I was like, okay,

838
01:09:57.800 --> 01:10:00.279
And my dad was like, is
that a helicopter? I was like,

839
01:10:00.479 --> 01:10:04.159
no, dead, that's not it. Wow here and they and and

840
01:10:04.399 --> 01:10:10.159
that kind of thing went on,
like Nashville, Atlanta, Birmingham, Montville,

841
01:10:10.199 --> 01:10:13.800
wherever I was going. I was
seeing these things. I'm like,

842
01:10:13.880 --> 01:10:15.680
dude, are they following me?
Am I going nuts? Okay, So

843
01:10:15.720 --> 01:10:19.600
my wife is starting to see these
things now. One morning she's folded clothes

844
01:10:19.640 --> 01:10:24.159
and she said, David, one
of those things was in the bedroom.

845
01:10:24.359 --> 01:10:26.079
I was like, what do you
mean one of those things? He said

846
01:10:26.680 --> 01:10:30.720
she was like an alien. And
I'm just like what she said. Yeah.

847
01:10:30.760 --> 01:10:32.680
I was like, where was it? She said it was over here.

848
01:10:32.880 --> 01:10:35.119
She turns your back. She was
like, it was up here,

849
01:10:35.760 --> 01:10:40.399
and our ceilings are seven feet tall. She said it was either seven feet

850
01:10:40.439 --> 01:10:43.680
tall or it was floating, and
it looked like it was coming through the

851
01:10:43.720 --> 01:10:48.079
wall. And she's got no inclination
of any of this stuff. This is

852
01:10:48.159 --> 01:10:53.560
hoolessness to her. She still thinks
it's foolishness, although she's where it's root

853
01:10:54.199 --> 01:10:58.920
mm hm. And I was like, coming through the wall. Great,

854
01:10:59.159 --> 01:11:02.319
because again this is I'm a virgin
to this thing. And even though this

855
01:11:02.399 --> 01:11:05.760
is happening over the course of years. I'm like reading something going like they

856
01:11:05.760 --> 01:11:09.359
can come through walls, and in
my wife, who knows nothing, She's

857
01:11:09.439 --> 01:11:12.359
like it might have been coming through
the wall. I was like, oh

858
01:11:12.439 --> 01:11:17.479
my god. And so I said, what do I look like. She's

859
01:11:17.560 --> 01:11:23.039
like, you know, like light
bulb shaped head, big black eyes,

860
01:11:23.680 --> 01:11:27.479
little mouth, little nose. I
said that you see its whole body?

861
01:11:27.520 --> 01:11:30.920
She said, I only saw its
torso like from its arms up to its

862
01:11:30.920 --> 01:11:32.880
head. She said, I thought
I was seeing things, but then it

863
01:11:32.920 --> 01:11:39.560
shifted its weight and it moved,
and she said, I dug my fingernails

864
01:11:39.560 --> 01:11:44.840
into your bicep and you were just
dead. She said. I tried to

865
01:11:44.880 --> 01:11:47.760
wake you up and you wouldn't wake
up. And I was like, what

866
01:11:47.840 --> 01:11:50.359
did you do? She said,
I pulled the covers over my head and

867
01:11:50.359 --> 01:11:57.199
I prayed to God that it would
go away. Demons David, if I

868
01:11:57.239 --> 01:12:00.479
could, if I could jump in
here, and I apologize Nathan to cut

869
01:12:00.520 --> 01:12:03.880
you off, and that's fine.
What do you if so you were being

870
01:12:04.000 --> 01:12:09.920
kept asleep for some reason. I
have no idea. I have okay,

871
01:12:10.760 --> 01:12:15.039
no, reay, okay. Second
second part of the question then would be

872
01:12:15.600 --> 01:12:20.720
why would they do that, because
why what do you think they're trying to

873
01:12:20.760 --> 01:12:28.439
do? My wife was pregnant mm
hmm. And I don't know, but

874
01:12:28.520 --> 01:12:33.319
I did ask him. And that
comes a little bit later because all along,

875
01:12:34.720 --> 01:12:38.079
all along the way, while the
craft were getting closer, I would

876
01:12:38.159 --> 01:12:40.800
ask for them to show up because
I couldn't believe that this was happening.

877
01:12:40.880 --> 01:12:44.800
I was like, and you're in
crafts and these are aliens, and you'll

878
01:12:44.840 --> 01:12:50.840
show up if I ask. And
so now we've got to be in the

879
01:12:50.840 --> 01:12:55.920
house coming through the wall. I
have I have no idea. I don't

880
01:12:56.000 --> 01:13:00.640
want to speculate. All I know
she's got some long fingers. They dug

881
01:13:00.680 --> 01:13:04.319
it into my arm, trying to
wake me up, and I didn't wake

882
01:13:04.439 --> 01:13:14.279
up. Yeah, And so now
I'm beyond scared. I'm like, I

883
01:13:14.319 --> 01:13:16.520
mean, I'm in a panic.
I don't know. And this is where

884
01:13:16.560 --> 01:13:20.920
the story's gonna start kind of jumping
around, because then the dreams started and

885
01:13:20.960 --> 01:13:28.319
the voices increased mm hmm. And
and I do think that what they told

886
01:13:28.399 --> 01:13:35.960
me and the dreams are relevant,
but you know, my mind just went

887
01:13:36.079 --> 01:13:41.600
blank. But what were those what
were those things? Uh? You know,

888
01:13:44.520 --> 01:13:47.560
I'm trying to that there were more
beings, you know, if I

889
01:13:47.560 --> 01:13:53.239
could jump across real quick. My
son woke up one morning and said he

890
01:13:53.319 --> 01:13:56.800
woke up in the middle of the
night and was stuck to the ceiling and

891
01:13:56.840 --> 01:14:04.640
he heard footsteps on the roof.
H It's okay, sorry, David.

892
01:14:04.760 --> 01:14:11.640
It was scared. It would scare
the hell out of anybody, absolutely okay.

893
01:14:13.840 --> 01:14:16.600
Then he had like this like thing. He had this lump in his

894
01:14:16.840 --> 01:14:21.039
foot that looked like the size of
your pinky. Just this lump in his

895
01:14:21.119 --> 01:14:26.479
foot and it has sensed concave and
now it's just like concave scoop at the

896
01:14:26.479 --> 01:14:32.880
bottom his foot and it hurts him
to like walk around. So what so

897
01:14:35.359 --> 01:14:38.520
And then my daughter, my five
year old daughter, wakes up in the

898
01:14:38.520 --> 01:14:42.199
middle of the nice screen bloody murder. And then the next day she's just

899
01:14:42.239 --> 01:14:44.640
like clinging to me. She won't
talk. I'm like, what's going on

900
01:14:44.680 --> 01:14:46.239
with you? See? She keeps
like side eye and this like bottom pain

901
01:14:46.319 --> 01:14:53.439
in the window, and and she
was like there was a big bird staring

902
01:14:53.520 --> 01:14:58.520
in the window and it had big
eyes and a pointing mouth. She's five,

903
01:14:59.319 --> 01:15:06.920
And I'm like, okay, okay, And and then my wife like,

904
01:15:08.600 --> 01:15:11.279
okay, so now I have to
stop and say. Now I'm talking

905
01:15:11.319 --> 01:15:14.680
to them, and when I talk
to them, I'm outside and I can

906
01:15:14.720 --> 01:15:18.119
see a craft m you know,
and I don't have clear recollections, but

907
01:15:18.159 --> 01:15:21.159
I'm like, I just recall one
night, like, have my hands on

908
01:15:21.199 --> 01:15:26.920
my knees, I'm gagging, I'm
crying, I'm stumbling around like I'm drunk,

909
01:15:27.199 --> 01:15:30.560
not drunk, And there's these two
orange lights on the opposite sides of

910
01:15:30.680 --> 01:15:34.239
the tree line. And I asked, and I'm having the conversation. I'm

911
01:15:34.279 --> 01:15:36.359
like, we got to get to
the bottom of this. And you can

912
01:15:36.439 --> 01:15:41.760
hear me, and y'all are in
my house. Now I want answers what's

913
01:15:41.840 --> 01:15:45.840
going on? You know, this
is starting to feel a little bit violating,

914
01:15:45.920 --> 01:15:51.439
and so, oh my god,
I can't believe what I'm saying.

915
01:15:53.039 --> 01:15:56.000
It's a lot of it's very it's
very violating, not even a little bit.

916
01:15:56.600 --> 01:16:00.600
Yeah, So I ask it,
what's the deal with God, Heaven,

917
01:16:00.720 --> 01:16:05.840
Hell, Jesus the Devil. I
can almost remember verbatim what I heard.

918
01:16:06.560 --> 01:16:10.279
Not going nuts? Am I having
a schizophrenic episode? I don't know.

919
01:16:10.439 --> 01:16:14.640
I don't think so. And they
said it said, she said,

920
01:16:15.760 --> 01:16:18.760
we cannot reveal to you the answers
to those types of questions because it would

921
01:16:18.760 --> 01:16:24.800
defeat the purpose of the faith that's
required to believe in such things. Then

922
01:16:24.840 --> 01:16:28.920
I asked, if there's anything to
the twenty twelve phenomenon, this was like

923
01:16:28.960 --> 01:16:32.520
in twenty eleven. I said,
not in the way that you think.

924
01:16:32.720 --> 01:16:36.239
There will be chaos and destruction,
but life will go on. And this

925
01:16:36.359 --> 01:16:40.520
was right after Haiti had happened.
I was like, similar to Haiti,

926
01:16:41.279 --> 01:16:45.079
oh, yes, but life will
go on. And then not long after

927
01:16:45.119 --> 01:16:48.680
that, the tsunami hit Japan and
I'm just watching the TV going like,

928
01:16:48.840 --> 01:16:54.079
dude, is the world about to
end? You know? And then I

929
01:16:54.199 --> 01:16:56.840
asked, and most of the time
when I'm talking to them, I'm seeing

930
01:16:56.840 --> 01:17:01.680
a craft outside and sometimes it's just
sitting on myself phone, you know,

931
01:17:01.760 --> 01:17:05.640
because the relationship at that point had
gotten like I could just like like punching

932
01:17:05.720 --> 01:17:13.239
in a TV chain. Yeah,
And I ask like, why is this

933
01:17:13.359 --> 01:17:16.479
happening? We can't reveal to you
the answers to those kinds of questions because

934
01:17:16.479 --> 01:17:20.960
you wouldn't be able to handle it. But it'll make sense as you continue

935
01:17:21.000 --> 01:17:28.960
to live your life, and it's
necessary and like that's vague, try me

936
01:17:29.279 --> 01:17:33.119
and like you know in transmission.
Are you doing this to my kids?

937
01:17:33.520 --> 01:17:39.279
Are you doing this to my pregnant
wife? Yes, but nobody's being hurt.

938
01:17:39.520 --> 01:17:45.359
Nobody will remember anything, and it's
all for a purpose, a good

939
01:17:45.399 --> 01:17:50.119
purpose. Trust us. Calm down, everything will be fine, Like no,

940
01:17:49.279 --> 01:17:54.960
m no, stop, whatever you've
got to do, do it to

941
01:17:55.039 --> 01:17:59.039
me, but leave my wife and
kids out of this. Then I come

942
01:17:59.079 --> 01:18:02.119
home from work it thirty shortly after
saying that, and there's this tear drop

943
01:18:02.199 --> 01:18:06.800
shaped craft hanging like eighty feet above
my house, just hanging in the air.

944
01:18:08.000 --> 01:18:11.199
It's got like three big white lights
on the bottom of it, little

945
01:18:11.199 --> 01:18:15.840
green like tip wings. It's like
a pair but like laying on the side.

946
01:18:15.920 --> 01:18:20.279
It's just hanging and I'm like,
they're waiting till I'm gone. Yeah.

947
01:18:20.680 --> 01:18:25.159
And then I'm looking at it out
of my windshield because my car's parked

948
01:18:25.159 --> 01:18:28.640
in the driveway, and it flies
over me and I lean back, I

949
01:18:28.640 --> 01:18:30.319
hold on the face the reality of
it, and I look back out.

950
01:18:30.359 --> 01:18:33.079
It's like a glitch in the matrix, and there it is again. It's

951
01:18:33.119 --> 01:18:38.079
like a skip and a tape reel, and it flies back over me again.

952
01:18:38.640 --> 01:18:41.079
And then around that time, my
wife was like, well, you

953
01:18:41.079 --> 01:18:42.880
were at work. I woke up
in the middle of the night and there

954
01:18:42.880 --> 01:18:45.199
were two of them standing at the
foot of the bed, shoulder to shoulder.

955
01:18:45.279 --> 01:18:47.760
Didn't say anything, they were just
standing there. It's like, what

956
01:18:47.800 --> 01:18:58.159
did you do to to to what? Two beings aliens grays standing shoulder to

957
01:18:58.239 --> 01:19:02.279
shoulder, you know, not saying
anything, said what'd you do? Cover

958
01:19:02.479 --> 01:19:08.079
my head with the sheets and pray
that they would go away. And so

959
01:19:08.159 --> 01:19:12.279
now I'm like, they're coming to
the house while I'm gone. I asked

960
01:19:12.279 --> 01:19:15.880
them not to, and now they're
in the house while I'm gone. Mm

961
01:19:15.960 --> 01:19:30.039
hm. So I'm pissed, you
know, you know, you're frustrated because

962
01:19:30.039 --> 01:19:32.840
there's not a there's just no sense
of trust there. Well, there's a

963
01:19:33.039 --> 01:19:39.399
one side. It's one sided,
yes, Like it would be like if

964
01:19:39.439 --> 01:19:44.680
I asked you what's the weather like
today and you're or if I ask you

965
01:19:44.720 --> 01:19:47.079
what color your shirt was and I
couldn't see you and you were like,

966
01:19:47.079 --> 01:19:53.800
well it's not orange, dude,
Okay, well yeah, not clear enough,

967
01:19:53.920 --> 01:19:57.199
a little more specific, and it's
always like you can't handle it.

968
01:19:57.199 --> 01:20:00.279
It's for a greater purpose, Just
trust me. That's this greater purpose.

969
01:20:01.079 --> 01:20:12.199
The idea was if shit hits the
fan. What we're doing will enable you

970
01:20:12.399 --> 01:20:18.199
to be with us in somewhere on
the craft, wherever we are live or

971
01:20:18.279 --> 01:20:26.760
going. It's something to do with
like that, and it was a good

972
01:20:26.840 --> 01:20:30.000
thing, and I'm like, okay, So that ties into the dreams.

973
01:20:31.680 --> 01:20:38.199
I'm having these dreams, you know, go out and there's just this lattice

974
01:20:38.199 --> 01:20:42.079
work of UFOs in the sky and
they look they're just disks and they're multi

975
01:20:42.119 --> 01:20:46.159
colored and they're flashing colors and they're
everywhere, and there's just this sense that

976
01:20:46.199 --> 01:20:50.159
they've shown themselves and it's not an
invasion. They're not attacking, they're just

977
01:20:50.279 --> 01:20:57.079
flexing. They're just saying, know
that we're here and know who's boss around

978
01:20:57.159 --> 01:21:00.720
here, and you all better act
right, just for all of humanity.

979
01:21:00.920 --> 01:21:04.039
And life still goes on. Everybody's
going to work, but there's just this

980
01:21:04.239 --> 01:21:10.640
like Jesus Christ, like you know, that kind of is the vibe.

981
01:21:11.000 --> 01:21:15.319
And I had two dreams like that, and one dream the water levels were

982
01:21:15.319 --> 01:21:20.199
really high. It wasn't flooded,
but it was flooding, and you know,

983
01:21:20.239 --> 01:21:24.359
I talked to somebody else that's had
experiences, and oddly enough, she

984
01:21:24.439 --> 01:21:30.920
heard robotic male voices. I heard
robotic. Why it's almost like they're trying

985
01:21:30.920 --> 01:21:35.560
to make you more comfortable by giving
you something that's I don't know. So,

986
01:21:36.079 --> 01:21:41.479
hey, David, at this point
in time, have you confined these

987
01:21:41.520 --> 01:21:47.119
events inside your family or is this
being shared with your wife's family that your

988
01:21:47.199 --> 01:21:53.119
family? This is just within our
own family. You know. There were

989
01:21:53.239 --> 01:21:57.960
nights where we had horses that would
run wild on our property for a while,

990
01:21:58.720 --> 01:22:00.439
and the horses running back one night
and there was just like this,

991
01:22:01.079 --> 01:22:05.479
just this burst of light and all
the horses were and they took off running

992
01:22:05.479 --> 01:22:09.840
and my dogs started barking at the
horses, ran after the horses and the

993
01:22:09.960 --> 01:22:13.399
light. I just you know,
my wife just grabbed my hand real tight.

994
01:22:13.399 --> 01:22:15.199
It's like ten thirty at night,
just stuff like this going on,

995
01:22:15.359 --> 01:22:19.760
like no stop, a little orange
or red. I can't remember light outside

996
01:22:19.760 --> 01:22:24.600
of the window. One night,
having all these crazy dreams, you know,

997
01:22:25.039 --> 01:22:28.039
there was a second dream where there
was the lattice work of the UFOs

998
01:22:28.079 --> 01:22:30.359
and I'm sorry for talking to some
much. No, it's okay, it's

999
01:22:30.399 --> 01:22:36.159
okay. So there was another dream
at the lattice work UFOs, the same

1000
01:22:36.279 --> 01:22:43.319
vibe. They shown themselves no threat, but better watch yourself and my son

1001
01:22:43.439 --> 01:22:50.159
is sleep walking and he's walking into
the window trying to go to and I'm

1002
01:22:50.199 --> 01:22:53.600
like, they're trying to draw them
outside. Why are they trying to draw

1003
01:22:53.640 --> 01:22:57.399
them outside? Is that just a
dream? Does does it matter? Is

1004
01:22:57.439 --> 01:23:00.439
it coincidental? I don't know,
but it was going on at the same

1005
01:23:00.479 --> 01:23:03.199
time. My wife is seeing beings
and I'm seeing craft close enough to throw

1006
01:23:03.239 --> 01:23:10.159
a rock at something. I'm seeing
orbs flying around X shaped things flying around

1007
01:23:10.239 --> 01:23:14.920
the back of this thing. Looks
like it's a star Wars And I mean

1008
01:23:14.960 --> 01:23:19.279
this is it sounds like it's relentless. And yes, I mean is it

1009
01:23:19.319 --> 01:23:23.239
every week? Is it every day? How often is this happening? Honest

1010
01:23:23.279 --> 01:23:28.079
to God, to my recollection,
I would say, on average about three

1011
01:23:28.199 --> 01:23:31.560
nights a week for about three years. Wow, I mean wow. It

1012
01:23:31.680 --> 01:23:34.800
was so often that it literally got
to the point where it was it wasn't

1013
01:23:34.840 --> 01:23:41.159
like wow, look thing, it
was like what where we go again?

1014
01:23:41.880 --> 01:23:45.479
You know? And so and all
the while, you know, I'm waking

1015
01:23:45.560 --> 01:23:51.279
up like I've got four white discolorations
in a row on the back of my

1016
01:23:51.359 --> 01:23:55.479
calf. I've got a little scoop
out of my ship. Is it something?

1017
01:23:55.479 --> 01:23:59.439
Sar time ago? I don't know. I woke up one morning there

1018
01:23:59.439 --> 01:24:03.159
were two little holes in my pointer
finger and this spingernail and this pingerail fell

1019
01:24:03.199 --> 01:24:09.079
off, and then that happened twice, you know, and I just put

1020
01:24:09.119 --> 01:24:11.560
band aids on it, try to
go about my day, and I think

1021
01:24:11.560 --> 01:24:13.640
about it, but I'm like,
dude, is this connected to that?

1022
01:24:13.800 --> 01:24:16.239
Is it not connected? Having some
kind of fungal infection? What's going on?

1023
01:24:16.600 --> 01:24:19.119
My wife would wake up she was
pregnant. She'd have a little like

1024
01:24:19.279 --> 01:24:25.399
scab on her belly button, you
know, and she was freaked out.

1025
01:24:25.439 --> 01:24:29.000
I'd have little scabs on mine.
I wake up just sweating so bad that

1026
01:24:29.159 --> 01:24:32.239
I was soaked through to the mattress
I have to take. I have to

1027
01:24:32.239 --> 01:24:35.520
put like four or five towels down. And this would happen frequently. I'm

1028
01:24:35.520 --> 01:24:39.119
like, am I having nightmares?
Is it? Like? What's happening?

1029
01:24:39.159 --> 01:24:45.199
I started smoking and drinking coffee to
stay awake so I wouldn't fall asleep,

1030
01:24:45.239 --> 01:24:48.119
so they wouldn't come, right,
Well, what was it like on the

1031
01:24:48.239 --> 01:24:50.920
nights and they didn't come? Were
you sitting in there like you guys are

1032
01:24:50.960 --> 01:24:55.000
watching TV and you're like, oh, I hope it won't come. And

1033
01:24:55.000 --> 01:24:58.640
then they did, and then they
didn't, and you're relieved, Like,

1034
01:24:58.680 --> 01:25:02.680
how did it were you? What
emotion were you met with when they did

1035
01:25:02.720 --> 01:25:10.600
come? When you're just having a
normal family evening. At this point,

1036
01:25:10.680 --> 01:25:15.760
nothing was normal. It was very
strained. I was. I started drinking

1037
01:25:16.359 --> 01:25:24.840
pretty heavily at nighttime just to deal
with the stress of it. I would

1038
01:25:24.880 --> 01:25:30.800
just numb myself with either alcohol or
TV shows, just to not think about

1039
01:25:30.840 --> 01:25:35.199
it. If it wasn't coming,
if it was a night where nothing was

1040
01:25:35.239 --> 01:25:44.720
happening, you know. So yeah, it just wasn't good at all.

1041
01:25:44.800 --> 01:25:47.680
Ever, you know, it was
just stressed. And my wife was like,

1042
01:25:48.119 --> 01:25:50.720
you better not bring those things in
the house again. I'm like,

1043
01:25:50.840 --> 01:25:57.279
I'm not. She's like, stop
stop stop googling it, stop researching it,

1044
01:25:57.319 --> 01:26:01.960
stop looking for them, stop talking
to them, right because and I'm

1045
01:26:02.000 --> 01:26:04.840
gonna tell you, we have about
fifteen minutes left. So I want to

1046
01:26:05.239 --> 01:26:10.920
I want to get to how you
got rid of these guys. But I

1047
01:26:11.039 --> 01:26:15.439
wanted to know if there was a
part of you that didn't want them to

1048
01:26:15.479 --> 01:26:17.720
come, and then a part of
you that did want them to come.

1049
01:26:19.239 --> 01:26:23.119
Yeah, I mean, you know, because you feel special, there's a

1050
01:26:23.119 --> 01:26:26.000
part of you that feels like,
oh wow, this is happening to me.

1051
01:26:27.239 --> 01:26:29.279
Did you feel like you were getting
any answers? Did you do you

1052
01:26:29.279 --> 01:26:33.000
feel like you were ever getting any
any closer to the reason. No,

1053
01:26:33.640 --> 01:26:38.800
it was all one sided. I
mean, they hold the key there in

1054
01:26:38.880 --> 01:26:45.079
control. I can't emphasize that enough, but you know there there's just there's

1055
01:26:45.119 --> 01:26:53.399
so much more to this. But
to answer your question, it became too

1056
01:26:53.479 --> 01:26:58.960
much and I kind of wrap my
head around the fact that this is not

1057
01:26:59.039 --> 01:27:01.760
a good thing or not. Space
brothers come to save this. Oh and

1058
01:27:01.840 --> 01:27:06.560
I saw one of them one night, you know, and I had heard

1059
01:27:06.560 --> 01:27:11.680
a voice in my head that said
communication would work better if we could do

1060
01:27:11.680 --> 01:27:15.600
the space to face. I was
like, couldn't because I'm not so like

1061
01:27:16.600 --> 01:27:18.720
And then people are like, oh, well, you must have agreed.

1062
01:27:18.840 --> 01:27:25.279
I was like, I must not
have. They do want, you know,

1063
01:27:25.479 --> 01:27:31.920
and so like I saw one one
night. You know. I'll try

1064
01:27:31.920 --> 01:27:36.279
to answer your question, but it
appeared there was a mist you know,

1065
01:27:36.319 --> 01:27:39.640
because I can't speak for my wife, I can speak for myself. There's

1066
01:27:39.680 --> 01:27:43.680
this mist Like I'm sitting there playing
video games one night it's one o'clock in

1067
01:27:43.680 --> 01:27:45.439
the morning because I'm afraid to go
to bed. I see this little shadow

1068
01:27:45.520 --> 01:27:48.720
run by the window in the door. It's a wooden door with a square

1069
01:27:48.760 --> 01:27:53.640
window. I ignore it. Shadower
once by again I ignore it. It

1070
01:27:53.800 --> 01:27:57.239
was by a third time. I'm
like, okay, is this something weird?

1071
01:27:57.800 --> 01:28:00.479
And then there's just this mist,
just molecule by molecule, just this

1072
01:28:00.680 --> 01:28:05.479
mist coming in out of nothing right
in the window, and it just starts

1073
01:28:05.520 --> 01:28:13.640
like coalescing until it's like there's a
gray and I mean it's as real as

1074
01:28:13.800 --> 01:28:15.960
if there was somebody on UFO Twitter
that drew it for me like a police

1075
01:28:16.000 --> 01:28:19.840
sketch. I doodled a little thing
and I explained it to it's exactly.

1076
01:28:19.920 --> 01:28:23.239
I mean, it looks just like
it's like I'm looking in the face of

1077
01:28:23.319 --> 01:28:27.279
it. The ridge up its head
was a little darker in his depiction.

1078
01:28:27.399 --> 01:28:30.439
It was a little lighter, you
know, but it had like a darker

1079
01:28:30.560 --> 01:28:34.439
ridge whenever its head. But just
the eyes were just massive, like they

1080
01:28:34.439 --> 01:28:38.239
would have come all the way back
here, and wrinkles around his mouth,

1081
01:28:38.359 --> 01:28:41.279
just a little boomerang. The picture
on my Twitter looks just like it.

1082
01:28:41.359 --> 01:28:45.079
And I was like that that is
not the female, just female, and

1083
01:28:45.800 --> 01:28:49.920
that ain't I don't want, you
know, And I just like, I'm

1084
01:28:50.000 --> 01:28:54.279
six feet away from it, and
I can see like it's got really high

1085
01:28:54.359 --> 01:28:58.840
hard cheek bones. I can see
the shadows and the cheek bones. I'm

1086
01:28:58.880 --> 01:29:00.079
like six feet away from it.
I just look away and I say,

1087
01:29:00.159 --> 01:29:04.000
no, you know, and I
look back and it's not there. And

1088
01:29:04.000 --> 01:29:08.399
I look out the window of my
dogs just like her hackles up the ridge

1089
01:29:08.399 --> 01:29:12.439
of hair that runs down her hackles. She's sniffing under the car and sniffing

1090
01:29:12.439 --> 01:29:15.520
the front fender, looking around,
and I'm just like, what in the

1091
01:29:15.640 --> 01:29:21.479
hill? And I've replayed that in
my mind a million times. What are

1092
01:29:21.479 --> 01:29:24.840
you doing? Are you sitting on
the sofa? What are you doing this?

1093
01:29:24.960 --> 01:29:29.960
I was sitting on the coffee table, sitting okay, close to the

1094
01:29:30.039 --> 01:29:35.039
TV. Oh got it, got
it low load, and and the door

1095
01:29:35.199 --> 01:29:39.840
was about seven feet away. I
stood up and took a step, and

1096
01:29:39.880 --> 01:29:44.680
I'm six feet away from the door
when I saw this happen. And so

1097
01:29:45.960 --> 01:29:53.880
that that's when I also kind of
went like, that's that's not matching up

1098
01:29:53.920 --> 01:29:57.439
with the voice I'm hearing. My
wife had dreams. I have to include

1099
01:29:57.439 --> 01:30:02.920
this. She had dreams about they
land there, they landed in some big

1100
01:30:03.000 --> 01:30:06.279
city and all these people were clamoring
to go see it. And she heard

1101
01:30:06.279 --> 01:30:11.239
a voice and again she thinks this
is all stupid. She hates all this

1102
01:30:11.279 --> 01:30:14.760
stuff. That this voice in her
head and the dream says one day this

1103
01:30:14.840 --> 01:30:16.880
is going to happen. Only you
can hear us right now, and if

1104
01:30:16.920 --> 01:30:21.039
you choose, you can get on
the craft with us and leave. And

1105
01:30:21.119 --> 01:30:27.680
she said no, So I think
I have that picture if you want to,

1106
01:30:27.680 --> 01:30:30.199
if I can put it up on
screen here. Oh wow, that

1107
01:30:30.359 --> 01:30:35.000
is awesome, man, Yeah,
this is it's it. That's scary looking.

1108
01:30:35.039 --> 01:30:39.760
Man, that's identical. And you
know what, it really looked old

1109
01:30:39.960 --> 01:30:44.600
like the wrinkles around its mouth were
really like it looked old. And the

1110
01:30:44.680 --> 01:30:47.159
first thought that was in my mind
was like zombie like that thing is not

1111
01:30:47.520 --> 01:30:53.840
there's no emotion there at all.
It's just like, you know, it's

1112
01:30:53.960 --> 01:31:02.720
just just zombie. M So you
know. And and I did bring it

1113
01:31:02.760 --> 01:31:11.000
up to my parents eventually at Christmas
twenty thirteen at dinner, and my mom

1114
01:31:11.039 --> 01:31:14.640
wants to go around the table like, how'd your year ago? Just I'm

1115
01:31:14.680 --> 01:31:19.119
like, you know, I object, I don't know if I'm being abducted

1116
01:31:19.159 --> 01:31:23.560
violence, I don't I've not had
regressive. I don't know what's going on,

1117
01:31:23.960 --> 01:31:26.279
Okay, I just know that they're
in my house. I'm seeing them,

1118
01:31:26.279 --> 01:31:29.479
my wife's seeing them. We're having
dreams about the apocalypse. There's a

1119
01:31:30.000 --> 01:31:33.680
craft everywhere, in orbs everywhere,
and from from what you mentioned, because

1120
01:31:33.680 --> 01:31:38.640
I actually called a friend about this
topic that you just brought up, I

1121
01:31:38.640 --> 01:31:42.840
said, you know, you know, I asked my friend Carlene, who's

1122
01:31:42.880 --> 01:31:45.119
on our show, who does regression
his work, and she said, it

1123
01:31:45.119 --> 01:31:48.159
has to be something that you want. I said, I don't think David

1124
01:31:48.319 --> 01:31:55.960
wants to remember. Yeah, no, uh, okay. I mean I

1125
01:31:56.079 --> 01:32:01.920
did some like transcendental meditative type trance
is self induced to try to remember,

1126
01:32:02.279 --> 01:32:08.399
and I had some flashes of like
being led down this long curved hallway by

1127
01:32:08.439 --> 01:32:15.399
this woman alien with black hair and
seeing like arch doors, and then you

1128
01:32:15.439 --> 01:32:18.920
know, being on table and seeing
the tops of their little heads. But

1129
01:32:19.119 --> 01:32:23.319
that could all be in my imagination. I don't know. I don't really

1130
01:32:23.319 --> 01:32:27.000
put a lot of stock in that. But I've heard other people describe things,

1131
01:32:27.039 --> 01:32:30.479
and my god, that's eerily similar, you know. But but I

1132
01:32:30.520 --> 01:32:33.399
don't really put a lot of stock
in that. And no, I don't

1133
01:32:33.399 --> 01:32:36.479
want regression because one of the things
that flashed in my mind is like being

1134
01:32:36.840 --> 01:32:41.439
in some kind of chair with a
tube down my throat, and I don't

1135
01:32:41.520 --> 01:32:45.239
want to know what's going on that
flash in my head. That could just

1136
01:32:45.319 --> 01:32:50.760
be imagination and paranoia run wild.
I'm yeah on that, and I'm not

1137
01:32:50.800 --> 01:32:56.680
telling anybody that's what happened. Absolutely, you know that's just a flash in

1138
01:32:56.720 --> 01:32:59.560
my mind. I don't know.
I'm not putting you don't want to actualize

1139
01:32:59.560 --> 01:33:04.000
that that into your your consciousness to
where it's you're like, oh, okay,

1140
01:33:04.039 --> 01:33:06.279
now I remember that. I get
it. I get it. I

1141
01:33:06.279 --> 01:33:09.479
just had to throw it. I
just had to throw it out there and

1142
01:33:09.520 --> 01:33:13.640
just find out. But I understand, and I want to be rational about

1143
01:33:13.640 --> 01:33:16.560
it too and say that, like
the voices in my head and the dreams,

1144
01:33:17.239 --> 01:33:19.079
I have a hard time to believe
in that. I have a hard

1145
01:33:19.079 --> 01:33:24.319
time believing I saw a gray I
believe my wife. I know I saw

1146
01:33:24.359 --> 01:33:30.399
a craft and orbs and lights that
would respond to my roofort. So I'm

1147
01:33:30.399 --> 01:33:35.680
at Christmas dinner breakdown, my wife, kids, everybody leaves the table,

1148
01:33:38.640 --> 01:33:41.279
and my dad is just like,
you know, son, this is not

1149
01:33:41.680 --> 01:33:44.560
new topic. This has been going
on since I was a kid. You

1150
01:33:44.600 --> 01:33:47.880
need to talk to your mother because
she's had some similar Wow, do not

1151
01:33:48.000 --> 01:33:51.319
dogs my mother, by the way, for anybody listening to me. But

1152
01:33:51.439 --> 01:33:57.600
she tells me that like when she
was nineteen, she was at a Christian

1153
01:33:57.720 --> 01:34:00.920
camp and she heard wrestling in the
clauset. She opened the door. There's

1154
01:34:00.920 --> 01:34:03.640
two little silhouettes in there. She
slammed the door shut. They pushed back.

1155
01:34:03.680 --> 01:34:08.119
She slammed it again. Ran out
to the councilor's cabin. She said,

1156
01:34:08.119 --> 01:34:11.800
there's little things in my closet,
and he says, Cecilly of those

1157
01:34:11.800 --> 01:34:15.479
are demons, and they've come to, like, you know, manipulate you

1158
01:34:15.520 --> 01:34:19.199
into not being Christian anymore. And
then again when she was thirty seven,

1159
01:34:19.479 --> 01:34:24.319
around the time at the late thirties, early forties, around the time I

1160
01:34:24.359 --> 01:34:27.680
saw a UFO. In nineteen ninety
seven, she says she woke up one

1161
01:34:27.720 --> 01:34:31.680
night and there were three little short
silhouettes at each at the bottom right corner,

1162
01:34:31.920 --> 01:34:35.479
upper left corner, up here,
and then there was a man,

1163
01:34:35.560 --> 01:34:39.399
like a silhouette of a man.
He had like a staffer rod in his

1164
01:34:39.479 --> 01:34:42.800
hand. He lifted the rod up
in the air and the three little silhouettes

1165
01:34:42.840 --> 01:34:45.520
disappeared, and he proceeded to telling
her like how she was going to die.

1166
01:34:45.680 --> 01:34:47.439
Now, if my mother hears this, she's gonna go, oh my

1167
01:34:47.479 --> 01:34:50.359
god, David, what are you
doing. But I mean, it's part

1168
01:34:50.359 --> 01:34:54.720
of it. It's it's just part
of the story. It's just part of

1169
01:34:54.760 --> 01:34:59.359
it. You know. Also while
this is going on, my brother in

1170
01:34:59.439 --> 01:35:01.479
law catches wind of it. He
practiced I don't know if he's jealous or

1171
01:35:01.520 --> 01:35:06.119
if he wants to find it's true. He practices necronomicon sigual magic says,

1172
01:35:06.119 --> 01:35:12.560
he conjures a reptil. It ends
up spending two weeks in the mental hospital.

1173
01:35:12.760 --> 01:35:15.760
This is very sensitive information. I
don't want people, you know,

1174
01:35:16.399 --> 01:35:18.720
being like a lot. I need
to go talk to him and talking He's

1175
01:35:18.800 --> 01:35:21.960
like, mind your business, believe
me your tongue. You know. He

1176
01:35:23.039 --> 01:35:25.319
ends up two weeks in the mental
hospital. And now I got to deal

1177
01:35:25.359 --> 01:35:29.399
with that. And then I'm getting
you know, I'm also getting like followed

1178
01:35:29.399 --> 01:35:32.439
by helicopters. And there was a
guy that followed me through a shopping center

1179
01:35:32.520 --> 01:35:35.239
all the but of the car's car
just so happened to be parked like right

1180
01:35:35.279 --> 01:35:39.319
next to mine. He takes my
picture from like four feet away and just

1181
01:35:39.399 --> 01:35:43.800
slow the lowders the camera just stairs
like that and then gets in his car's

1182
01:35:43.800 --> 01:35:46.479
a little all black car convertible,
pulls off, drives off, My parents'

1183
01:35:46.520 --> 01:35:50.479
house burns down. This is all
happening around the same time. On Facebook,

1184
01:35:50.479 --> 01:35:55.199
I'm getting, you know, stalked
by this dude that's got a profile

1185
01:35:55.279 --> 01:36:00.279
picture of like a trench coat and
a gun with the UFO. One hundred

1186
01:36:00.319 --> 01:36:03.279
of my photos get liked in a
day, block them. Happens again in

1187
01:36:03.319 --> 01:36:06.760
the next day by some weird profile
block in. I don't know if that's

1188
01:36:06.760 --> 01:36:11.560
connected. That can all be not
connected at all, but it was happening.

1189
01:36:11.840 --> 01:36:15.600
So I have an absolute mental breakdown
at Christmas in twenty thirteen. Talk

1190
01:36:15.600 --> 01:36:17.239
to my dad, talk to my
mother. This has to stop. My

1191
01:36:17.239 --> 01:36:19.880
mother's like, David, those are
demons. My wife is like, David,

1192
01:36:19.880 --> 01:36:23.359
those are demons. I don't know
if they're demons or not. I

1193
01:36:23.359 --> 01:36:26.680
don't know if this is something good. I don't know if they enhanced my

1194
01:36:26.800 --> 01:36:29.880
DNA and now I can survive on
a spaceship, if they have to take

1195
01:36:29.880 --> 01:36:32.680
me away during the apocalypse, I
don't know. I have no idea,

1196
01:36:33.520 --> 01:36:38.520
but at this point I'm so strung
out that I'm like, I can't live

1197
01:36:38.720 --> 01:36:43.960
like this anymore. So if they
start praying for me, they encourage me

1198
01:36:44.039 --> 01:36:48.399
to get back into the Bible.
I start, and I come to terms

1199
01:36:48.399 --> 01:36:55.960
that this is not a good thing
and these are not space brothers come to

1200
01:36:56.000 --> 01:36:59.720
say this. I just I'm like, okay. I take all of my

1201
01:37:00.079 --> 01:37:03.439
T shirts, Alien T shirts,
alien books, all this stuff. I

1202
01:37:03.479 --> 01:37:06.960
go to get my brother in law's
black magic books. I take all that,

1203
01:37:08.079 --> 01:37:11.520
I burn it. I invite somebody
out to the house that's like a

1204
01:37:11.640 --> 01:37:15.560
new age kind of healer. She
sages the house. Another friend of mine

1205
01:37:15.640 --> 01:37:18.039
is like a new age crystal guy. He buries, organite all in the

1206
01:37:18.119 --> 01:37:24.479
yard. I have like church pray
over me. I met with a pastor.

1207
01:37:24.600 --> 01:37:30.039
I had somebody anoint me with oil. I started practicing, you know,

1208
01:37:30.520 --> 01:37:38.439
Knochian type stuff to summon archangels.
I took on the Christ's consciousness.

1209
01:37:39.239 --> 01:37:44.840
I was doing like kundling rising and
chakra cleansing and everything I could do.

1210
01:37:45.000 --> 01:37:48.800
I stopped drinking everything I could do
to pull myself out of a negative place.

1211
01:37:49.319 --> 01:37:55.479
And that's when it started taking off
in the same way it came beings

1212
01:37:55.560 --> 01:38:00.800
left craft started leaving little lights in
the sky, and then and now it's

1213
01:38:00.880 --> 01:38:05.840
gone, and it's still gone up
wee hours in the morning, and I'll

1214
01:38:05.840 --> 01:38:12.600
see something weird and I'm like,
you know what, David, I have

1215
01:38:12.680 --> 01:38:15.119
a lot of respect for you already, and I'm gonna tell you why,

1216
01:38:15.279 --> 01:38:19.279
because if it were me and they
told me I could make your hair grow

1217
01:38:19.359 --> 01:38:26.000
back, I would probably suffer an
abduction for that. I would if they

1218
01:38:26.039 --> 01:38:30.960
said, we promise you full head
of hair, Nathan, this would be

1219
01:38:30.960 --> 01:38:33.479
it. You know, it'd be
tough to say no, you got you

1220
01:38:33.479 --> 01:38:38.600
know, you understand where I'm coming
from. That's pretty that's a pretty sexy

1221
01:38:38.640 --> 01:38:45.119
offer. Yeah, well, I
mean I want to echo what where DJ

1222
01:38:45.239 --> 01:38:50.319
is saying, sorry, chucked up
there, But uh, it takes a

1223
01:38:50.359 --> 01:38:56.600
ton of guys to do share the
story of everybody. And I'm sorry for

1224
01:38:56.720 --> 01:39:01.680
going on y'all. No, I
I mean for me. And then there's

1225
01:39:01.680 --> 01:39:05.439
so many layers of the story that
you know, kind of hit me.

1226
01:39:06.159 --> 01:39:12.720
But watching you tell it is actually
one of the most important components of this

1227
01:39:12.840 --> 01:39:18.560
because it's obvious to me how impactful
this experience was to you and how difficult

1228
01:39:18.600 --> 01:39:24.800
it is to talk about it.
So I you know, again, I

1229
01:39:25.479 --> 01:39:29.039
really want to thank you for coming
on the show to share this with everyone,

1230
01:39:29.319 --> 01:39:33.279
and only only because I hope that
in sharing the story it helps,

1231
01:39:33.399 --> 01:39:39.600
like it helps process this and helps
you come to peace with it. That's

1232
01:39:39.680 --> 01:39:42.199
my hope too. I mean that's
part of why I did it, just

1233
01:39:42.279 --> 01:39:47.439
because you know, I cannot just
sit down at dinner with some friend and

1234
01:39:47.479 --> 01:39:53.680
Billy, hey, did you hear
about the thing in politics? Like man,

1235
01:39:53.840 --> 01:39:58.640
like, I just don't care.
That's never a good conversation to have

1236
01:39:58.800 --> 01:40:03.680
anywhere, but it and just not
being able to be like, dude,

1237
01:40:03.720 --> 01:40:11.880
there's aliens flying around doing god knows
what. I don't care about anything.

1238
01:40:12.119 --> 01:40:14.840
I mean I do, I do, okay. And that's why I'm thankful

1239
01:40:14.840 --> 01:40:17.039
for my wife, because she's very
good at just being like, hey,

1240
01:40:18.000 --> 01:40:21.279
the toilets clogged, go fix You
have a Yeah, you have a life.

1241
01:40:21.319 --> 01:40:26.039
Here, go cut the grass,
go feed the horses, you know,

1242
01:40:27.000 --> 01:40:32.159
focus dad. So like, it's
difficult, and also you know,

1243
01:40:32.600 --> 01:40:36.399
I feel like I'm not the only
one that's been through this. Oh my

1244
01:40:36.479 --> 01:40:43.720
god. Yeah, we just we
just uh learned all about Jim Sparks very

1245
01:40:43.920 --> 01:40:49.159
some some similar experiences to you,
Chris bled So, Terry loveless obviously Angelie.

1246
01:40:50.479 --> 01:40:54.720
So yeah, and by the way, I want to say this,

1247
01:40:54.840 --> 01:40:58.880
David, you look very healthy,
are you right? You you really do

1248
01:40:58.960 --> 01:41:05.520
look very healthy. Well, I'll
say that back to getting rid of them,

1249
01:41:06.840 --> 01:41:11.960
that was part of it. Was
like cutting out the drinking, cutting

1250
01:41:11.960 --> 01:41:16.279
out the just the just the negativity
that was in my life. Having to

1251
01:41:16.439 --> 01:41:21.319
like get out of that was a
part of it. And I still continue

1252
01:41:21.359 --> 01:41:26.039
that to this day. Like have
you seen that meme this guy like Rocky

1253
01:41:26.159 --> 01:41:30.319
working out and said like introverts preparing
to make a phone call. That is

1254
01:41:30.560 --> 01:41:34.800
exactly what I did before I came
here to do that because my levels of

1255
01:41:34.840 --> 01:41:40.000
stress and anxiety are that high that
I have to, you know, do

1256
01:41:40.119 --> 01:41:43.680
that. And I do think it's
a constant battle. And I will say

1257
01:41:44.119 --> 01:41:46.399
I'm not against love and light.
I know the story I just told it

1258
01:41:46.560 --> 01:41:53.079
was dark and stressful and confusing,
but I'm not against love and light,

1259
01:41:53.520 --> 01:41:57.920
you know, I did. I
did have some experiences and all that where

1260
01:41:57.960 --> 01:42:00.840
I wasn't creeped out and I was
I didn't feel threatened. I just felt

1261
01:42:00.840 --> 01:42:09.199
like they were showing themselves to me
as almost like a consoling kind of thing.

1262
01:42:09.720 --> 01:42:12.880
Mm hmmm. Just think of this, David, like, this is

1263
01:42:12.920 --> 01:42:17.159
our yoga room. Uh. And
and you can come to this space any

1264
01:42:17.199 --> 01:42:23.279
time that you want and uh talk
to Nathan and I and uh and let

1265
01:42:23.319 --> 01:42:27.439
it out there, and we will
welcome you to have you on here and

1266
01:42:27.560 --> 01:42:30.920
talk about it. It's uh,
it's a beautiful thing. It's not an

1267
01:42:31.199 --> 01:42:35.199
it's an experience that a lot of
us think would be great. And some

1268
01:42:35.279 --> 01:42:41.800
people do have some great experiences,
and some people have horrific experiences. For

1269
01:42:41.840 --> 01:42:47.039
example, UH, correct me if
I'm wrong. Nathan Chris Bledsoe said he

1270
01:42:47.239 --> 01:42:55.319
was healed during his first interaction of
Crohn's disease, yet Angelie spent six hours

1271
01:42:55.720 --> 01:43:00.920
and said that she's not healed.
Yeah, yeah, expect for Yeah,

1272
01:43:00.039 --> 01:43:03.840
it's it's a very mixed bag.
I don't think they're all the same beings.

1273
01:43:03.960 --> 01:43:08.600
And if Angelie said as much,
she said, there's some beings out

1274
01:43:08.600 --> 01:43:13.439
there that are not as benevolent as
the beings that that she's been interacting with

1275
01:43:13.880 --> 01:43:16.680
and the two that left the council
and then the other four. And I

1276
01:43:16.680 --> 01:43:23.439
think that's what got our friend Lampey
shout out to say Lampey nineteen forty seven.

1277
01:43:24.600 --> 01:43:30.439
She was very upset by knowing that
there's something out there that's ominous.

1278
01:43:30.479 --> 01:43:33.000
I would say, Nathan, yeah, you know, if I can interject,

1279
01:43:33.079 --> 01:43:40.640
I would say maybe not evil,
but impartial. They don't care.

1280
01:43:41.479 --> 01:43:45.319
It's on there, it's their playing
field, and you're just kind of like

1281
01:43:45.439 --> 01:43:50.720
the dude, almost like if an
NBA team played against like a middle school

1282
01:43:50.760 --> 01:43:56.920
basketball team, like you're not even
in the same league, and they know

1283
01:43:57.079 --> 01:44:00.439
it and they just don't really care. It's not evil as much as it's

1284
01:44:00.560 --> 01:44:05.720
just like you're not playing by your
rules, you're playing by their rules,

1285
01:44:05.840 --> 01:44:12.520
and I just don't know. It's
also confusing. But if I can get

1286
01:44:12.560 --> 01:44:15.840
outside of my own experience and I
just try to just because I just try

1287
01:44:15.880 --> 01:44:20.760
to hammer home. I don't know
what it all means. I don't know

1288
01:44:20.840 --> 01:44:26.359
if the dreams and the voices correlate. I don't know. So I'm not

1289
01:44:26.399 --> 01:44:30.000
trying to speculate. But if I
can't speculate now, I'll say that there's

1290
01:44:30.319 --> 01:44:33.640
multiple beings. There's a lot going
on here. I don't know why,

1291
01:44:34.119 --> 01:44:38.279
because you'll have a debunker. It's
going to be like why why in the

1292
01:44:38.279 --> 01:44:41.880
world, whether you can be one
much less multiple, I don't know,

1293
01:44:42.039 --> 01:44:45.560
dude, I have no idea,
you know, I wish I knd't And

1294
01:44:45.640 --> 01:44:50.720
maybe that's where we're going with all
it. Sure, I want to say,

1295
01:44:50.760 --> 01:44:56.880
for my part that the NBA versus
middle school team actually happened last year

1296
01:44:56.960 --> 01:45:00.640
when Kevin Durant was healthy, Kyrie
Irving and James Harden and they were beaten

1297
01:45:00.680 --> 01:45:04.880
teams by thirty until one of the
three of them would get injured. So

1298
01:45:04.960 --> 01:45:08.319
anyway, so we did get to
see that. Maybe it was the Memphis

1299
01:45:08.359 --> 01:45:13.560
Grizzlies, just kidding Memphis, calm
down, Okay, no, But but

1300
01:45:13.640 --> 01:45:15.800
David, I think, you know, to kind of bring it to a

1301
01:45:15.840 --> 01:45:21.279
close today. You know, it's
the timing means something, you know.

1302
01:45:21.319 --> 01:45:26.159
I think there's a reason why you
know now is the time to tell this

1303
01:45:26.239 --> 01:45:30.359
story. There's a reason why we're
hearing more stories and being told and that

1304
01:45:30.439 --> 01:45:34.680
reason may not be clear yet,
but it may become clear. And I

1305
01:45:34.720 --> 01:45:40.159
think your courage to come forward will
encourage others to come forward, and and

1306
01:45:40.159 --> 01:45:46.279
and and that has accumulative power that
you know will lead to something. So

1307
01:45:46.399 --> 01:45:49.159
and I don't know what, but
I again I want to thank you for

1308
01:45:50.359 --> 01:45:54.760
being willing to share this story and
the way that you have and and I

1309
01:45:54.800 --> 01:45:58.760
hope we get a chance to chat
with you again. Yeah. I mean,

1310
01:45:58.880 --> 01:46:04.319
let me know, I think I've
just absolutely mentally vomited everything that happened

1311
01:46:04.359 --> 01:46:09.560
to me, So I don't know
what more there is to say, and

1312
01:46:10.239 --> 01:46:15.399
diving into all of it is clearly
like triggering and not a good place for

1313
01:46:15.439 --> 01:46:20.640
me to be mentally. But you
know, I'm always down to chat with

1314
01:46:20.680 --> 01:46:26.000
somebody about it, you know.
And and like you said, I do

1315
01:46:26.119 --> 01:46:30.119
agree that part of why I did
it is to encourage more people, even

1316
01:46:30.159 --> 01:46:36.439
if you just saw an org or
just a triangle or a ghost or something

1317
01:46:36.520 --> 01:46:42.479
like just this does seem to be
the time that that, you know,

1318
01:46:42.600 --> 01:46:48.520
pushback needs to occur because I don't
know what loves up to, but I

1319
01:46:48.680 --> 01:46:53.960
like it. I don't know where
this is going, but I hope that

1320
01:46:54.039 --> 01:47:00.640
it's going in a direction where the
general public don't tell my story. Yeah,

1321
01:47:00.960 --> 01:47:04.680
but we do need to start wrapping
our heads around the fact that this

1322
01:47:04.760 --> 01:47:11.960
isn't Chinese drunes some of it,
but I don't think all of it is.

1323
01:47:12.720 --> 01:47:16.760
Let me let me give you an
example of the kind of inspiration that

1324
01:47:16.840 --> 01:47:25.119
you and people like you have provided. I had a chat online with somebody

1325
01:47:25.159 --> 01:47:30.319
that's coming on our show named Troy
Broskowitz. He's a former pilot from Special

1326
01:47:30.359 --> 01:47:34.119
Operations, somebody that I flew with, somebody that was a leader of mine,

1327
01:47:34.239 --> 01:47:40.760
someone I hold in high regard.
I would never ever, ever have

1328
01:47:41.000 --> 01:47:46.760
uttered the word UFO in front of
him. And even now we're gonna he's

1329
01:47:46.800 --> 01:47:50.359
gonna know about my experience, he's
gonna come on the air with Nathan and

1330
01:47:50.399 --> 01:47:56.279
I and Chris Lado, and that
would not have happened except for I feel

1331
01:47:56.479 --> 01:48:02.159
bolder. I'm emboldened because of people
like yourself. So that's what the effect

1332
01:48:02.239 --> 01:48:06.720
is. So I want to thank
you, and we're here for you,

1333
01:48:06.800 --> 01:48:11.960
and we really do appreciate your time. People before me doing it, you

1334
01:48:12.000 --> 01:48:15.520
know, I mean, I just
I do feel like there's like a domino

1335
01:48:15.600 --> 01:48:21.880
effect happened, No doubt, David
Fraver inspired me. You know many people,

1336
01:48:23.279 --> 01:48:25.640
but I can tell it. But
I've even like I, like I

1337
01:48:25.680 --> 01:48:30.960
said, even though I came out
with the story, my story after David

1338
01:48:30.000 --> 01:48:36.359
Fraver, I don't know that two
weeks ago even I would have called Troy

1339
01:48:36.399 --> 01:48:40.640
Broskowitz and said, Hey, Troy
would like you to come on air and

1340
01:48:40.760 --> 01:48:45.840
talk about aviation and related to UFOs
and that warble probably wouldn't have happened.

1341
01:48:45.840 --> 01:48:50.600
But I'm inspired by people that are
coming out and talking, so thank you

1342
01:48:50.680 --> 01:48:56.439
so much. It just occurred to
me that it's more than just the three

1343
01:48:56.479 --> 01:49:00.560
of us talking. That's right.
Yes, we're on YouTube right now,

1344
01:49:00.880 --> 01:49:02.600
so thank you. I want to
say, so, let me just say

1345
01:49:02.640 --> 01:49:06.319
a couple of things before we let
Nathan go, and then we're going to

1346
01:49:06.439 --> 01:49:14.520
make our memorial to Kevin P.
Childress, the retired DOE special agent whom

1347
01:49:14.520 --> 01:49:18.840
we lost out of UFO hashtag UFO
Twitter. I want to say I love

1348
01:49:18.880 --> 01:49:25.000
you guys. I realized that we
do have some scraps and some arguments there.

1349
01:49:25.279 --> 01:49:29.800
You can just see what David just
there showing in peace sign. Please

1350
01:49:29.880 --> 01:49:34.560
treat him and his story with love
and respect. And I really appreciate what

1351
01:49:34.760 --> 01:49:40.439
this community has given to my life. So for David P. Lanier,

1352
01:49:41.119 --> 01:49:46.239
for Nathan at awave soul on hashtag
UFO Twitter, this is DJ san Marco

1353
01:49:46.399 --> 01:50:00.439
saying peace out, one love,
and we'll see you down the road. As