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down on the Ball here on Fox
Sports Sports teen fifty on Jay Gonzalez.

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My partner Steve Rivera is out for
the next two days. I do have

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guest co host coming in. He's
running just a Scotch Lake because he's a

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very busy guy. But it's Mike
Fader. You might know him as the

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minor league baseball executive through a lot
of years here in town with the Tucson

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Toros and the Sidewinders later a Stint
as as as the head of the Tucson

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Sugar Skulls in their in their inaugural
season. Now a retired guy running sort

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of I guess running the Mexican Baseball
Fiesta once a year. And he's on

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his way in and should be here
any minute, and we're just gonna go

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over all this stuff that's been going
on. It's been a crazy day.

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It's been a crazy twenty four hours
since news broke yesterday that Colorado the Board

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of Regents was meeting and discussing leaving
the PAC twelve to go to the Big

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Twelve. And since then there was
a meeting of the Big twelve Board of

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Directors to formalize an invitation to Colorado
to join the Big Twelve. And then

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uh less than an hour ago,
the Colorado Board of Regions held to vote

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and they voted unanimously to join the
Big Twelve. So the PAC twelve is

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now down to nine. There's a
lot of things, a lot of things

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that are still to happen. But
you know, from where we sit as

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following the University of Arizona just we
just don't know at this point what this

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means for Arizona. There's a lot
of speculation on a lot of different fronts

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from a lot of different people.
Uh some you know here, some throughout

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the country. Because this is sort
of a the next Domino people are calling

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it or it's going to continue the
ripple effect of what began all the way

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back when Texas and Oklahoma decided to
leave the Big Twelve a couple of years

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ago. But here we are Texas
and Oklahoma after this season, they're headed

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to the sec USC UCLA after this
season headed to the Big Ten. Now

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Colorado after the season going to the
Big twelve. The conference is sort of

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kind of not in a good spot
right now. As far as I'm concerned,

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is the PAC twelve, what are
they going to do? We're gonna

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have a guest that we hope will
shed some light on his thinking about this,

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and that's a Michael lev the new
columnist for the Arizona Daily Start.

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He's a senior writer and a columnist. He's uh, he'd covered you of

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a football for a lot of years. Now he's the lead columnist with the

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semi retirement of Greg Hanson, and
so Michael joined us at four fifteen to

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talk about what he thinks all this
means for Arizona. But there's just a

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lot of things being said. Most
of it is speculation, but Arizona sort

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of at the forefront of what's next
for the PAC twelve and the Big twelve

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and UH, there's been a lot
of discussion that this is going to cause

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the Wildcats or the universe of Arizona
to leave the Pac twelve and UH and

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go over to the to the Big
twelve. And we just don't know what's

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going to happen. So, Mike, welcome, Thanks for being here,

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No, no problem, Sorry,
I was running late by fighting the tison

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traffic. I get it. I
coming from all the way your side of

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town at the Colstone Creamer, Yeah, to get here. Yeah yeah.

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Yeah. You never know, man, You never know how long it's gonna

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take it. But I appreciate you
coming in and doing this for a couple

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of days, a lot of earlier
tomorrow. It's all right, a lot

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of stuff going on, Mike,
you know much. I tried to keep

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notes and I couldn't even figure out. Here's another latest one, well two

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latest ones. You heard about Joe
Burrow? Yeah, do we know what?

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I heard? That? He got
hurt? They said as a captain,

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hard off the harder off the field, right, is it is?

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It? Is it? All first
they were worried about that kind of thing,

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but they don't think it is.
But it's two world you never know.

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And then the other one I just
hearched. Did you about show Hail?

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Yeah, it's gone. I watched
the first game. He throws a

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one hit shutout. It's a double
Henry. He's in the second game he's

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gone yard twice. Right, Yeah, so it's kind of crazy. But

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yeah, and it's not getting traded
now, and he's not getting traded,

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and maybe he's happy. Maybe that's
why he's doing this. I can't see

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him resigned. Yeah, with you, we're gonna talk about that something today

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because one of the reasons I wanted
to get you in here too, to

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fill in for Steven's baseball season.
I want to talk with a whole bunch

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of baseball I invited you. And
then after that, this thing with Colorado

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comes up my gun and now that's
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the news of the day. Um. I was just uh, you know,

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just talking about how you know,
look, Colorado's voted, they're going

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unanimous voted their regions about forty five
minutes ago. Um, they're they're going

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to the Big twelve. And that's
uh, you know. Now, the

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next question is what happens to the
Pac twelve. And I there's a lot

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of things that could happen. I
don't know that anybody knows what's going to

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happen. Well, you're a lot
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am. But I just read I'm
just a fan, right, I'm an

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avid sports fan. Yea. And
what a mess. It is, you

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know, when the commissioner can't get
a deal done and then he says,

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oh, well, we're probably in
a much better position now that everybody's getting

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there to come on, right,
that's a bunch of WHOI right, well,

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Steve and I spent some time talking
about so much of what what's been

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said has been spin, right,
more spin and less fact right just well

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bloggers, yeah right, got too
many people that think they know what they're

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talking about. The don't exactly.
And I was trying to read about that

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story. Who knows what you could
believe? You know, even coming here

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today as you and you have,
ay are the two that are leaving what

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nobody knows. But but also by
the way, Peter Robbins is now Bobby

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Peter Likli is now the head of
the of the President's Council, right right,

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I, I you know, I
don't know, And that's just did

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you're hearing everything from It could just
be Arizona. It could be Arizona,

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Utah and and uh in a s
U or it could be Yukon right.

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Well, you know I heard yesterday
because because basketball, while it's not the

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driving force of this in this particular
situation, pretty good basketball conference, right,

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it becomes it's a really good basketball
conference. You know. My way

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of thinking is Arizona's got a better
football presence than Connecticut. Yeah, Yukon

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obviously has a better currently has a
better basketball preverence. I guess a national

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championship, maybe the national championship,
but you know, long term, when

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you look at Connecticut and Arizona,
you know, Arizona is not that far

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behind. They haven't won all the
national championships, but they've still got,

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let's call it, the blood line
of a program that's been to wrink about

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that lacrosse player who plays for UCLA
that now might have to go from LA

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to Connecticut. Come on, right? So yeah, no, it's that

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that's that's that part of it is
such a mess. But the question that

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becomes, you know, and and
they think that, you know what what

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we're talking about here in teason is
what happens to Arizona? Right? You

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know, does Arizona want to stick
it out? You know? Now?

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You know I heard a couple of
different writers throw out, Okay, so

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the Pac twelve is losing, is
losing? Uh Colorado? Do they just

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go get San Diego State and be
happy with ten teams or do now they

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go get San Diego State SMU and
one other name being thrown out being Colorado

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State, right, and and you
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any of that would do, right, I mean, well people, do

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people even know that the Big Twelve
next year is getting by u R Cincinnati,

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Houston and Central Florida. Those are
really clamorous teams. Further twelve.

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Yeah. See, that's the thing. You know, when the Big Twelve

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decided they needed to expand, they
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and oh, by the way,
they're losing Texas in Oklahoma, right,

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They went and got four group of
five teams. So there's some people are

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saying, well, affair Zona gets
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uh big the Big twelve did when
they lost Texas in Oklore. They won't

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replaced Texas Oklahoma with with four group
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many you talk about this all the
time. Sports show should almost be on

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CNBC. I mean, it's all
money. Oh you know I wrote down

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and you know these numbers. A
Big twelve member is going to get thirty

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one point seven million dollars per year. How does that compare with the PAC

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twelve? What are they get?
Well? Right it, right now,

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it's comparable. Okay, well the
PAC not the PAC twelve deal they have

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now, but what they were getting, Okay, that deal is similar to

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what they were already getting. The
problem isn't why this is all happening?

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Why Texas and Oklahoma left the Big
twelve? By USC and UCLA left.

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Uh? The the PAC twelve is
those schools and those conferences are getting seventy

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eight. That's the thing. Maybe
they actually know how to run their own

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TV network. But you know,
so, let me let me ask you

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think about five minutes here, before
our first big you was a fan.

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Um, who I know, Baseball
has kind of, you know, been

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your life. But you're still a
fan. You watch college football, you

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watch the NFL. You've got your
Saints, your Saints T shirt on.

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You worked for the Saints as a
fan. Sitting here watching all this happen.

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Does it turn you off to all
of it? Doesn't? Does it

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make you? Are you frustrated by
it? Do you feel like it's tearing

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into your enjoyment of it? I
mean, how do you how do you

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see this I mean, Steven,
we're knee deep in this because we you

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know, we covered the uv A. We're over there all the time.

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You know, the u A stuff
is a big part of what we do

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here. You're I would call not
an average fan because you're so tied into

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baseball, but you know, as
a as a profession. But still when

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it comes to maybe college basketball,
college football, I see you as more

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of an average fan. How how
are you reacting to all of Well,

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I would not be in your category
that I'm enjoying it. Okay, oh,

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I'm not enjoying it either, but
but you know, it's if I

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weren't in fantasy sports leagues, you
know, on the on the professional side,

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how do you how do you keep
up with that movement? Yeah?

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I mean it, come on,
it's it's it's out of control. I

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mean, you know, how do
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get away from college, but uh, the quarterback at at San Diego at

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LA getting sixty million dollars a year, yeah, yeah, Herbert right.

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Or Or to bring it back to
baseball, you got possibly the greatest hitter,

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I mean, the greatest player in
the history of baseball, and he

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was on the trade block and will
be a sixty to seventy to eighty million

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dollar guy now. And I don't
want to get away from your college question

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because I'll get back to it.
But what people don't understand when they're looking

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at the economics of showhail Tani,
it's not just his contract. Have you

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ever watched the game in Anaheim?
Oh? I went to a game with

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him in Anaheim. It was it
was an obscure, you know, weekday

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game. All the signs are Japanese
companies. I heard that over two hundred

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million dollars are being generator for the
Angels through sponsorships in Japan. Yeah,

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so is he So he's not worth
seven hundred, he's worth four or five

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hundred. To that point. It
was two seasons ago and we were in

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San Diego and we got to,
hey, let's, you know, let's

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go watch the Angels, not not
because we specifically wanted to see show here,

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just that let's go to an Angels
game, right, And so it

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was like a Tuesday night game,
Tuesday Wednesday night game. We go to

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get tickets and we're in the upper
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line, right, because because that
was all, you know, that was

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all that was available because he was
playing, and then of course he he

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pissed me off because all he had
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Right back out. I know you're
getting ready for a break. But

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back to your college question. Yeah, I think it's much harder, much

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harder than when you and I grew
up. Obviously right to be a college

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friend because he who I mean,
is a U A fan going to be

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excited when they play SMU. That's
it. I don't know, or you

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know, I mean, I know
we had fun with the San Diego State.

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Well, you know, a bunch
of us went to the Sandia State

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game up. But now if that's
a conference game, how meaningful is it?

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It certainly isn't going to carry the
meaning of playing U sail in USC

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every year. No, I mean, it's a fun game, it's a

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fun road trip. I'd like San
Diego State that one. Yeah, that

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one I'm okay with. But as
a college football game, you know how

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you're gonna rank, I'd rather see
him play USC. Then I'd rather see

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him play UCLA and then San Diego
State falls right somewhere. No, it's

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it's it's not good. Yeah,
and and I think it's it's much much

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harder being a sports fan. And
and I think a lot of sports fans

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have quit. I agree with you. I agree with you. Were It's

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not allowed with me. But no, there, there are, there are.

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I mean I had direct TV years
ago until I moved. Yeah,

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I couldn't watch the PAC twelve.
Yeah you couldn't. I was. I

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was one of the first direct TV
customers in town, and I hated leaving

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it, but I had to.
All Right, we're gonna get ready to

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check her break her chin. I
saw that Sugar Skull's head coach is gonna

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be in here. We'll wrap the
uh wrap the season with him. I

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think he'll be surprised that you're here. But uh, you know, um,

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another playoff game, another loss in
the playoffs, another good season.

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But it's a pretty good season.
Um, you know. I think the

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attendance numbers were you know, we're
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pretty think he'll be happy with the
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they came out in that game,
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see, we'll see where he's at
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down all the excess at Alls.
It's Steve Rivera and Jagon Summings. This

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is I'm the Ball on Fox Sports
fourteen fifties. Welcome back to hind the

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Ball here on Sports fourteen fifty on
Jay Gonzalez. I've got my great guest

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co host former. Uh what what
do we call ourselves? Work together?

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You're still my boss? Right?
How is your bottles? Boss? Sugar

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Sculls and uh, but you know, Mike and I have known each other

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for years and because he's one hundred
years old, like ninety five. Um,

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and Mike's joined me, is joining
me today and tomorrow to fill in

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for Steve, who's decided take a
little summer summer break. And we're about

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we're waiting for hurdis Jin to give
us a call head coach of that she's

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on Sugar Skulls, um, just
to go over his uh kind of wrap

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up the Sugar skull season. Uh, you know, a pretty good season,

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got to the playoffs. Uh another
first round loss, but unfortunately and

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uh okay the phone ring, and
so I think this might be him.

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I heard us? Is that you? Yes? I heard us? How

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you doing? I'm pretty good.
I just walked out of the thing.

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Oh all right, no problem,
you're on the air. Just so you

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know, and I've got Mike Fader
here with me. He was I don't

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know if you you'll know that first
year. Yeah yeah, okay, you

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were here, so i'd bring him
all the food. Now I heard us.

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Are you what's going on? Yeah? Sorry about the way it ended,

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but congrats on another good season.
Yeah. Well so yeah, so

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let's you know, let well,
let's let's talk about this because it's kind

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of like, you know, you
you're you know, you had a good

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season, didn't end the way you
wanted to When when it does that,

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right? I mean obviously, you
know, unless you win the championship,

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nobody's you know, totally happy.
But you know, you've had a few

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days to reflect on your season.
Just give us kind of your thoughts,

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NA about you know how how I
don't know what you want to say,

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how you rate your season? But
how do you feel about the season.

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I feel good the fact that we
got something to build off of here,

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you know, you gotta it was
a lot of one year guys, two

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year guys on that team, you
know, but h did very well and

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got better as the season went on. Gettation of how I feel about it.

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I actually feel great about it,
you know, when you look for

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the future and moving forward and what
we did out there, um, you

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know, just showing some residents,
even in our last game, just the

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way we fought back. You know, it just shows that we got a

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lot of you know, some things
on this all seasons to address and after

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that we can actually hit the ground
running. Is there ever a way you

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could just eliminate the first quarter?
I mean last week? I mean it

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comes, you know, that's one
thing I accepted a long time ago.

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It always just comes with the game. And like you just alluded to earlier,

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you know, at the end of
the day, at the end of

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every season, only one team is
actually smiling. So you know, that's

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a harsh reality for you know,
ninety something percent of the teams in the

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league that they got to face every
year. But we get up on all

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season, you know, put our
heads up and get back at it.

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So you say that you've got some
people returning, Can you talk about which

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guys are coming back or is it
still too early to talk about that.

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Oh yeah, it's just a little
premature to talk about that. We still

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you know, having exit meetings and
things of that nature to conclude those things.

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But just a general synopsis of the
you know, guys that are interested

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in going back. Most of our
team is interested in coming back, so

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I can speak on that, you
know, having conversations with them. Most

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of our team and two son is
interested in coming back to Tucson. They

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love the organization, they loved the
city as a whole, and they just

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you know, see what they can
build off of them, and they really

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and ready to come back for the
most part. Yes, well, I

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was going to get to that because
you know, I mean, we know

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that the indoor the indoor game,
the indoor football league, you know,

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tends to be sort of a league
where teams turn over you know, quite

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a bit. A lot of teams
do, some teams don't, and the

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ones that don't seem to be the
ones that tend to. You know,

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Buil built some of that consistency.
So how important is that for you?

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I mean, there's probably some pieces
that you want to go out and change

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anyways, but how important is it
for you to keep sort of a corner

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of this team, to kind of
keep this thing going that as you say,

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you feel like you've built something this
last year. It always helps.

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It just helps when guys come back
who've been here to know, to come

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in from day one to notice standers
and to help out you know, the

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possibly new guys that come in the
other pieces to the puzzle, like hey,

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we don't do that here, Hey
we do this things like this here.

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You know, they actually like little
coaches assistance out there if you will

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say, um, you know when
you got guys that's already been here.

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So it's huge and even from you
know, the beginning of the season,

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it just helps create an environment instead
of standard like hey, this is the

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coach of hen tu Son, so
guys automatically coming by in, you know,

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on top of what the coach is
saying. So, uh, yeah,

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I saw that you had a couple
of guys, uh Maurice Jackson on

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you know, on the second team
All League guys like that, Um,

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are those guys that are sort of
a focus for you guys maybe guys who

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were leaders on the team this last
year. And look, I you know,

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we had Karrington Thompson on the show
last week and he said this was

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it for him, so you know, he obviously a key part of your

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offense. So you know that you're
gonna have to go get some guys anyway,

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so you know where do you where
do you focus on in terms of

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figuring out the guys. We gotta
try really hard to get back. Oh

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yes, you know, you always
want to you know in any event when

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you're building the team, you Bill
came inside out, so I saw with

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interior and that's on both sides of
the ball. You know. Then you

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start with some middle pieces, like
you're sending a quarterback, running backs and

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those guard linebacker, safeties, and
you just build out from there, you

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know. So once you you know, going into the offseason of recruiting,

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that's how you want to approach it. And you and you start with what

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you have here with your team.
If you got pieces on the interior and

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middle pieces that you like, you
build from there. And of course,

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a player like Karrington Thompson's definitely,
you know, hard to replace, but

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you know that's a part of the
business that comes with it. We just

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got to come and you know,
find the next Counton Thompson, find the

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next young CT out there. And
you know, you we got guys like

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Dudley who was out there. You
know, you got guys like uh,

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you know, uh Patterson, Darry
and Patterson. That was hurt and launch

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part of this season. You know, guys that actually can play, that

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can develop, that they can take
this off season and build from it and

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be special next season. We've all
obviously when you live in Tucson and you

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become a u of a fan,
Uh, can you talk a little about

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Rashi Hodge, how he went from
when he first got here to where he

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is now and maybe for the people
listening that don't know who he is,

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kind of say our position he plays
and stuff like that. So coming coming

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into this season, you know,
I had questions about that, and I

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told people that you know, last
year not because it was his fault,

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we just was he was filling avoided
the need that we had, so he

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was out of position. We had
him playing linebacker. So now this year

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you come and put them something he
was natural at just playing cornerback and he

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can play in the box as a
strong safety type of guy. He's actually

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has that versatility. But I tell
you know, Russie, he's actually a

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pleasure to coach. He's a guy
that just comes in, does the work,

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doesn't complain day after day after day. He gets it. He you

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know, he leads by example when
it comes to his play, uh,

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you know, and on and off
the field. He's a guy you just

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don't have to worry about in the
locker room. He's always a positive,

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you know guy in the games,
he just does his job. Man.

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That's somebody who if anybody was trying
to give a chance to he would be

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one of the guys that you know, definitely this organization, coaching staff,

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teammates, everybody without sports. Okay, we got to ask you about Mike

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Jones. This was his fourth year
with the team. You mentioned a couple

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of times in previous uh appearances on
our show that you know Benjamin Jones kind

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of talked him into playing this year. Have you had any indication for Mike

408
00:27:29.359 --> 00:27:32.000
Jones as to what he's going to
do, because you know, he's the

409
00:27:32.039 --> 00:27:34.160
one guy, right He's the guy
that's sort of been the steady force for

410
00:27:34.200 --> 00:27:37.920
you guys, not just you know, at his position, but you know

411
00:27:37.960 --> 00:27:41.559
as a guy on the team.
What do you know about Mike Jones right

412
00:27:41.559 --> 00:27:45.799
now? Oh? You know what
a lot of people don't know is you

413
00:27:45.839 --> 00:27:49.119
know, uh, Mike Jones played
the majority of this season, you know,

414
00:27:49.160 --> 00:27:53.519
with some injuries, nagging injuries to
both of his big toes on both

415
00:27:53.559 --> 00:27:57.319
sides of his seat in the last
couple of weeks with a swollen knee.

416
00:27:57.519 --> 00:28:02.039
You know. So that's just somebody
that's been there from day one and this

417
00:28:02.279 --> 00:28:04.519
organization. He's, you know,
one of the faces of this organization.

418
00:28:04.799 --> 00:28:08.400
And again he's a pleasure to half. He don't say much, but I

419
00:28:08.440 --> 00:28:12.359
will say the last conversation me and
Mike Jones had the last thing he said

420
00:28:12.440 --> 00:28:15.359
to me, he shook my hand, gave me a hug, said he

421
00:28:15.400 --> 00:28:19.039
appreciated everything, and coach, I
got more in the tank and I would

422
00:28:19.039 --> 00:28:22.640
love to play for you. That
last conversation, Well that's I mean,

423
00:28:23.200 --> 00:28:26.400
you know, I feel like,
you know, he's a guy that just

424
00:28:27.039 --> 00:28:30.279
does the work, right. I
mean, you know, I you know,

425
00:28:30.319 --> 00:28:32.839
I made that comment a number of
times on your games. You just

426
00:28:32.880 --> 00:28:37.119
see him go out there. He
does the work. I sometimes he's flashy,

427
00:28:37.160 --> 00:28:40.759
but mostly he's just out there,
you know, grinding and carrying the

428
00:28:40.799 --> 00:28:45.039
ball and and kind of making things
happen. And I mean every team needs

429
00:28:45.039 --> 00:28:48.680
guys like that, right, Yes, you know, because again when you

430
00:28:48.799 --> 00:28:52.440
look and see a guy like Mike
Jones and say, you know, okay,

431
00:28:52.559 --> 00:28:55.599
he's a guy that you got a
game plan for he's the start figuring

432
00:28:55.640 --> 00:28:57.799
this league around his league. He
gots the name for himself in his league.

433
00:28:59.039 --> 00:29:02.000
So when you come to practness and
say like, hey, you know,

434
00:29:02.079 --> 00:29:04.000
Mike Jones don't miss no practices.
Hey, you know, if we

435
00:29:04.039 --> 00:29:08.359
need somebody for a scout team,
Mike Jones sells out and gives itself for

436
00:29:08.559 --> 00:29:12.880
the team day after day after day, and still goes in the games and

437
00:29:14.000 --> 00:29:18.799
produce. He does all of this
while not saying a word, while while

438
00:29:18.880 --> 00:29:22.559
not complaining about anything, by steady
just being a custom for us in the

439
00:29:22.599 --> 00:29:26.119
film room, like hey, guys, you know, hey, we need

440
00:29:26.160 --> 00:29:29.920
to really focus this week. We
need to really do this this week.

441
00:29:30.160 --> 00:29:33.559
You know, it's hard to find
people like Mike Jones with that ability and

442
00:29:33.640 --> 00:29:37.920
you know, somebody that's actually very
a very very selfless person. So,

443
00:29:38.240 --> 00:29:42.279
um, Mike and I were talking
about attendance this year. It seemed pretty

444
00:29:42.279 --> 00:29:45.480
good. You had a couple of
crowds over four thousand. It seemed like,

445
00:29:45.559 --> 00:29:48.839
you know, you guys did take
a step forward with that this year.

446
00:29:48.880 --> 00:29:51.640
You know, the you know,
better attendance than last year. I

447
00:29:51.640 --> 00:29:56.160
think there are still people kind of
not sure about going to advance and h

448
00:29:56.240 --> 00:30:00.519
and you know, still a little
a little bit of a covid ain't around

449
00:30:00.519 --> 00:30:03.680
them. I don't recall anybody saying
I'm not going to a game because they

450
00:30:03.680 --> 00:30:06.279
still don't want to be around crowds. That's a little bit about what you

451
00:30:06.319 --> 00:30:08.880
thought of the atmosphere and if you
felt like it did take a step forward

452
00:30:08.960 --> 00:30:14.960
this year. I definitely thought it
took a couple of steps forward. Man,

453
00:30:15.200 --> 00:30:18.720
just to consistency in the crowd and
the support from the community. You

454
00:30:18.759 --> 00:30:22.039
know, there's a couple of steps
forward. It was a joytid players.

455
00:30:22.160 --> 00:30:25.519
That's why even when we struggle at
home, it was like, man,

456
00:30:25.759 --> 00:30:30.279
you know, I really would want
everybody in this community to understand that these

457
00:30:30.279 --> 00:30:33.720
guys really appreciate you all and really
go out there and try to play as

458
00:30:33.839 --> 00:30:37.039
best as they can at home and
fight hard. But just to have the

459
00:30:37.160 --> 00:30:41.200
support of the fans is huge.
You know, even when they come down

460
00:30:41.240 --> 00:30:45.720
to last seconds of all the home
games and you see, you know,

461
00:30:45.759 --> 00:30:48.400
I recall the Duke City game.
You're looking at crowding. Everybody's standing up

462
00:30:48.720 --> 00:30:52.880
when you look around. That is
a joyous occasion. You know, you

463
00:30:52.960 --> 00:30:56.680
got a middle age, old age, younger age kids, everybody off their

464
00:30:56.720 --> 00:31:00.960
feet, enjoying the game and enjoying
the product organization put out there on the

465
00:31:02.039 --> 00:31:06.359
field for Tulsium is definitely something that
took a couple of steps forward and we

466
00:31:06.400 --> 00:31:08.720
definitely appreciate. All Right, So
you mentioned a few minutes ago, you

467
00:31:08.759 --> 00:31:11.759
know, you got you gotta finish
exit interviews, talk to everybody and stuff

468
00:31:11.799 --> 00:31:15.240
like that, and then you know, wrap up this season. So give

469
00:31:15.319 --> 00:31:18.119
me a give us a rundown of
you know, what are you doing between

470
00:31:18.160 --> 00:31:22.160
now and let's say, you know, the end of the year, the

471
00:31:22.279 --> 00:31:25.759
end of the calendar year, what
goes on with the Sugar Skulls in terms

472
00:31:25.759 --> 00:31:29.480
of, you know, holding the
team together, trying to get ready so

473
00:31:29.519 --> 00:31:32.599
that when the calendar turns now,
you're getting ready for the next season.

474
00:31:32.640 --> 00:31:34.599
And there's a lot of things in
place. But what's your role and what

475
00:31:34.680 --> 00:31:37.960
kinds of things do you do?
You do? Oh, you know,

476
00:31:38.039 --> 00:31:42.200
it's just you go back and you
you know, first and foremolways, you

477
00:31:42.279 --> 00:31:45.400
start thinking people. You know,
you like to start off by thinking people

478
00:31:45.400 --> 00:31:49.599
that helps this thing go. All
the sponsors, the full partners and everything

479
00:31:49.720 --> 00:31:53.799
or anybody that's involved. We're helping
this go and grow and go. In

480
00:31:53.920 --> 00:31:57.640
Tucson, you start off by just
giving a huge thanks to them and just

481
00:31:57.680 --> 00:32:02.119
show some gratitude. Then after that, you know, you meet me and

482
00:32:02.160 --> 00:32:06.519
you know, Kathy and Kevin will
have some meetings, just talk about,

483
00:32:06.680 --> 00:32:09.000
you know, visions or what we
can do better, how we can service

484
00:32:09.039 --> 00:32:13.640
each other better, where we can
grow at things that we like, things

485
00:32:13.640 --> 00:32:15.839
that we didn't like on both ends, and you know, and you just

486
00:32:15.880 --> 00:32:19.759
talk about, okay, now,
how can we grow from here? And

487
00:32:19.839 --> 00:32:22.279
you strategize when it comes to that. You even sit down with people in

488
00:32:22.319 --> 00:32:25.200
the front office and show them that, hey, we were thankful for what

489
00:32:25.240 --> 00:32:29.519
you all did. We're getting help
getting people in those stands. And then

490
00:32:29.559 --> 00:32:31.960
out there, I started taking you
know, h notes of myself. I

491
00:32:32.039 --> 00:32:36.240
started the self scout and see,
okay, where do I need to do

492
00:32:36.319 --> 00:32:38.400
better? What areas I need to
do better? And that's where I start

493
00:32:38.480 --> 00:32:43.240
recruiting from what then, okay,
what areas you know we need to do

494
00:32:43.319 --> 00:32:45.519
better? As a team. You
meet with your assistance and say were the

495
00:32:45.599 --> 00:32:50.160
things you like you didn't like?
Were the things that you self scouted about

496
00:32:50.160 --> 00:32:52.519
yourself? And where can we get
better at in the off season, and

497
00:32:52.599 --> 00:32:57.359
you start there with the recruiting,
you know, to recruit specific for what

498
00:32:57.519 --> 00:33:00.079
you want and where you wanted at
and then no, you just look back

499
00:33:00.119 --> 00:33:04.359
and take notes of all those things, you regroup, and you start to

500
00:33:04.480 --> 00:33:07.200
channel energy into making it better.
Yeah, all right, well, hurt

501
00:33:07.240 --> 00:33:10.119
Us, it was fun. It
was certainly interesting. I know that,

502
00:33:10.160 --> 00:33:13.680
you know. The home record wasn't
what you wanted it to be, but

503
00:33:14.240 --> 00:33:16.559
certainly every game was was crazy.
I do, I do know that,

504
00:33:16.640 --> 00:33:20.839
and you you guys weren't boring,
that's for sure, but uh, you

505
00:33:20.880 --> 00:33:22.920
know, it was a lot of
fun. Again, you know, congratulations

506
00:33:22.960 --> 00:33:24.640
on a you know, on a
pretty good season again, playoffs three out

507
00:33:24.640 --> 00:33:29.079
of four years for this for this
organization, which I think is it says

508
00:33:29.079 --> 00:33:31.200
a lot about what goes on not
on not only on the field, but

509
00:33:31.279 --> 00:33:36.000
off the field. So when it
congratulate you guys for that, and uh,

510
00:33:36.039 --> 00:33:37.559
you know, thank you. Let's
see if you you can pull this

511
00:33:37.680 --> 00:33:40.160
thing together next year. And we
were looking forward to, you know,

512
00:33:40.160 --> 00:33:45.279
when you guys start putting this team
together. Thank you, man, appreciate

513
00:33:45.359 --> 00:33:47.240
everything all season. Thank you.
All right, hurt Us, be well,

514
00:33:47.279 --> 00:33:50.240
and uh, don't be a stranger. We'll talk to you soon.

515
00:33:51.279 --> 00:33:54.599
Okay, Thanks, it's hurt his
chin head coach of the Tucson Sugar Skulls.

516
00:33:54.599 --> 00:33:58.440
They're kind of wrapping up their year
and again, you know what we

517
00:33:58.480 --> 00:34:00.359
talk about that, right, you
don't win the championship, there's a little

518
00:34:00.359 --> 00:34:04.799
bit of you that says it didn't
go as well as we hope. Well,

519
00:34:04.839 --> 00:34:09.320
I've I've been involved in running sports
teams for over thirty five years.

520
00:34:10.119 --> 00:34:15.000
He said it. I mean,
there's only one team that you're champion at

521
00:34:15.039 --> 00:34:16.920
the end of the year, and
the rest of them are disappointed, unless

522
00:34:17.360 --> 00:34:21.960
you're that team that surprises. Yeah, that was so bad the year before,

523
00:34:22.079 --> 00:34:24.599
you you know, but no,
it's it's it's it's frustrating. I

524
00:34:24.599 --> 00:34:28.559
mean I remember feeling pretty good about
you know, the first year and getting

525
00:34:28.599 --> 00:34:31.559
into the playoffs. Um, you
know that it had had to win the

526
00:34:31.639 --> 00:34:36.280
last home game right to get in. It was a big deal. Uh,

527
00:34:36.440 --> 00:34:38.400
you know, celebrated it. It
was exciting and that was great.

528
00:34:38.480 --> 00:34:42.360
I know they lost their playoff game, but that was great because they were

529
00:34:42.400 --> 00:34:45.480
a brand new team. Right.
Well, anytime you can do things like

530
00:34:45.519 --> 00:34:47.599
that, it's always special. Uh. And you know, it's just you

531
00:34:47.639 --> 00:34:54.039
know, right now, it's it's
funny going back to baseball just to hear

532
00:34:54.159 --> 00:34:59.199
the rumors, you know, with
the trade deadline coming up, I mean,

533
00:34:59.239 --> 00:35:00.519
how they're going to chang your team? Am I a buyer? Am

534
00:35:00.519 --> 00:35:05.639
I a seller? What? Am
I? Well? Are your fans disappointed?

535
00:35:05.719 --> 00:35:07.880
You know, if you're a fan
of Chicago White Sox, are you

536
00:35:07.880 --> 00:35:12.760
mad right now? I mean you
just gave up two guys that are in

537
00:35:12.760 --> 00:35:17.880
the major league team, Giolito and
Lopez. Uh, And it's it's There's

538
00:35:17.880 --> 00:35:21.960
gonna be a lot more big ones
than that, that's for sure. But

539
00:35:22.039 --> 00:35:25.360
it's hard being a fan. And
it's even harder being an administrator right now

540
00:35:25.679 --> 00:35:31.159
because expectations are so great. You
know. The one thing I said on

541
00:35:31.199 --> 00:35:36.199
my role, whether it be running
a minor league team, working for an

542
00:35:36.280 --> 00:35:42.960
NFL team, the hardest thing over
the last five ten years is the owners

543
00:35:43.000 --> 00:35:45.360
have gotten out of control. I
mean, you know, it's uh,

544
00:35:45.480 --> 00:35:51.280
you know, we experienced that a
little, but uh, they they pay

545
00:35:51.360 --> 00:35:57.360
too much for their franchises, and
they blame everybody else but them, right

546
00:35:57.519 --> 00:36:00.840
Yeah, I hear you, And
it's you know, it's it's it's difficult.

547
00:36:00.880 --> 00:36:05.119
I mean I talked to friends in
Triple A baseball, and you know,

548
00:36:05.400 --> 00:36:07.639
do you know what a Triple A
baseball team goes for nowadays. Oh,

549
00:36:07.760 --> 00:36:13.239
it's it's it's in the fifteen twenty
million dollars, twenty million dollars.

550
00:36:13.320 --> 00:36:16.000
Yeah, yeah, no, I
hear you. All right, let's let's

551
00:36:16.039 --> 00:36:19.559
take our next bar accord and come
back. We'll take your calls five two

552
00:36:19.679 --> 00:36:22.920
zero four one seventy four forty.
We'll talk about whatever you want to talk

553
00:36:22.920 --> 00:36:23.880
about. If you want to talk
sugar Skulls, will do that. If

554
00:36:23.880 --> 00:36:28.760
you want to talk about this everything
going on with the with the Pac twelve

555
00:36:28.840 --> 00:36:31.400
and Colorado leaving, we'll talk about
that. If you want to talk trade

556
00:36:31.400 --> 00:36:35.840
deadline. There's some injuries today in
the NFL that are going to be key.

557
00:36:35.840 --> 00:36:37.239
We'll go through some of that stuff
as well. So give us a

558
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call five two zero four one six
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out for the next couple of days
taking a little summer vacation in a place

605
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that I hope it's cooler because well
it's not hard to bear. I saw

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611
00:40:38.599 --> 00:40:43.000
herdis So, um, Mike's here
for the next two days. And uh,

612
00:40:43.039 --> 00:40:45.199
you know, Uh, I told
I told Mike coming in, you

613
00:40:45.199 --> 00:40:47.000
know, I wanted to talk some
baseball, right, That's one of the

614
00:40:47.039 --> 00:40:50.360
reasons I wanted to do to bring
you in. You know, we'll talk

615
00:40:50.400 --> 00:40:52.800
some baseball. Steve. Steve doesn't
care about baseball, so it's kind it's

616
00:40:52.800 --> 00:40:55.400
hard for me to talk about it. So um, but you know,

617
00:40:55.440 --> 00:40:59.760
I thought we're gonna and then this
whole, this whole move with Colorado to

618
00:41:00.119 --> 00:41:02.079
the to the Big twelve came up, and that kind of it's kind of

619
00:41:02.119 --> 00:41:06.119
swallowed everything up right now. I'm
sure Michael Leve will talk about that.

620
00:41:06.960 --> 00:41:09.079
Yeah, exactly, exactly. Yeah, that's what that's what I got.

621
00:41:09.079 --> 00:41:12.679
I got it because you know,
I we got to talk to Michael Levin.

622
00:41:12.719 --> 00:41:15.679
He'll be on at at four or
fifteen, you know what. Now,

623
00:41:15.760 --> 00:41:17.920
for Arizona, right, and that
that's the deal. So but let's

624
00:41:19.000 --> 00:41:22.320
let's talk some baseball. We're talking
so I know you're a Dodger fan.

625
00:41:22.519 --> 00:41:25.800
I'm sorry dog that, uh,
but you know it's it's weird. So

626
00:41:25.880 --> 00:41:29.599
the Angels, you know, you
know, I don't even know what it

627
00:41:29.639 --> 00:41:32.079
is right now, but the Angels
were only four games out of a playoff

628
00:41:32.119 --> 00:41:37.800
spot, right, Uh, so
I guess there's no sense to just shut

629
00:41:37.840 --> 00:41:39.679
it down. No, absolutely,
And then they and they were going to

630
00:41:39.760 --> 00:41:43.079
It's not like they were ready to, right, and all of a sudden,

631
00:41:43.079 --> 00:41:44.920
there four games. I was like, okay, now we can't.

632
00:41:45.039 --> 00:41:49.039
You know, the team I follow
is the Chicago Cubs. Do you know

633
00:41:49.119 --> 00:41:52.400
they've won six in a row?
I heard, and in our four and

634
00:41:52.440 --> 00:41:55.559
a half games out of a playoff
spot. Now, now you know this

635
00:41:55.719 --> 00:42:00.679
name, and it really is going
to irritate me if they trade. And

636
00:42:00.800 --> 00:42:02.679
you know how, I'm gonna say, Cody Bellinger, Yeah, he's having

637
00:42:02.760 --> 00:42:07.519
a t and that dude was That
dude was on my fantasy team the last

638
00:42:07.519 --> 00:42:13.280
few years and he sucked. No, he was terrible, but just watching

639
00:42:13.360 --> 00:42:17.760
him now, yeah, and what's
the difference. Well, confidence and I

640
00:42:17.760 --> 00:42:22.800
heard I heard somebody talking about his
swing. Yeah, uh, he was

641
00:42:22.880 --> 00:42:27.880
really long. Uh and and he's
you know where he couldn't hit a left

642
00:42:27.880 --> 00:42:30.440
hander now he can. Uh.
And and I guess they made some really

643
00:42:30.559 --> 00:42:34.639
nice adjustments for him. But he
only signed a one year deal. Yeah.

644
00:42:35.039 --> 00:42:39.800
And you know to me and I
don't own the Wrigley Company or whatever.

645
00:42:40.519 --> 00:42:45.639
Uh, you lock him up,
you got you have to. He's

646
00:42:45.800 --> 00:42:49.880
young, he's good. He was
the MVP a few years ago. Years

647
00:42:49.880 --> 00:42:53.320
ago. He's he's really well liked. You know, they signed Dansby Swanson

648
00:42:54.199 --> 00:42:58.639
to a long term deal. They
got in half to a long term deal.

649
00:42:58.760 --> 00:43:04.280
Nice. Horner is a really good
young player. Uh, don't just

650
00:43:04.559 --> 00:43:07.159
break it up. Right. Maybe
he doesn't want to stay in Chicago.

651
00:43:07.440 --> 00:43:10.679
I don't know why he wouldn't,
though, Well, right, you play

652
00:43:10.679 --> 00:43:14.440
a lot of day games. That's
a cool place. I get to hang

653
00:43:14.440 --> 00:43:17.039
out at real restaurants at night,
exactly. I finally got to go to

654
00:43:17.039 --> 00:43:22.639
Fenway Park because Wrigley are like my
two bucket list stadiums that I've got to

655
00:43:22.679 --> 00:43:27.800
get to. I finally got to
Fenway. I'm sixty three, but I

656
00:43:27.880 --> 00:43:30.199
finally got there. I still got
I still got to do Wriggley But why

657
00:43:30.199 --> 00:43:34.000
wouldn't you want to play in Wrigley
Field? I know maybe the locker room

658
00:43:34.039 --> 00:43:36.679
isn't as nice as the next lot
of the visiting team, but the home

659
00:43:36.719 --> 00:43:38.320
locker room they fix up a lot. Yeah, but you know it's still

660
00:43:38.360 --> 00:43:44.079
you know, look like like like
Fenway to me walking under the you know,

661
00:43:44.199 --> 00:43:45.880
in the concourse that Fenway. It
was cool to me because it's such

662
00:43:45.880 --> 00:43:49.679
an old statement. We had to
call it coming in. It's very old.

663
00:43:49.840 --> 00:43:52.880
Yeah, you're on the air and
on the ball. How's it going

664
00:43:52.960 --> 00:43:57.320
today? What's up? Brian?
Well, dude thinks, uh, back

665
00:43:57.320 --> 00:44:00.159
to well, we need to get
out as fast as we can. Why

666
00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:05.239
why do you say that? Yeah? Because okay, do you want to

667
00:44:05.280 --> 00:44:09.519
have a conference? Basically? That
is the wack conference again. Okay,

668
00:44:09.599 --> 00:44:13.119
let me ask you this, but
let me ask you because this I didn't

669
00:44:13.159 --> 00:44:16.320
I really didn't think of it like
this. Okay, with the way that

670
00:44:17.239 --> 00:44:21.960
if you look at all all the
teams in the football I'm talking football,

671
00:44:22.360 --> 00:44:24.719
all the teams in the Big twelve, all the teams in the Pac twelve,

672
00:44:25.880 --> 00:44:29.559
who are the two but not counting
texts in Oklaoma because they're leaving,

673
00:44:30.280 --> 00:44:32.320
who are who are the two best
teams if you if you count all those

674
00:44:32.360 --> 00:44:37.400
teams in the Big twelve, no, combining the Big twelve in the Pac

675
00:44:37.440 --> 00:44:44.639
twelve, who are the two best
teams not count text in Oklahoma Washington?

676
00:44:45.199 --> 00:44:50.000
Yeah? Right, So you know
the thought was from a football standpoint,

677
00:44:51.239 --> 00:44:53.480
the Big twelve isn't really all that
much better than the Pac twelve, even

678
00:44:53.559 --> 00:44:57.800
if even with Colorado leaving, you
bring let's say you bring in San Diego

679
00:44:57.840 --> 00:45:01.559
State, I'll take I'll put the
the twelve, the ten Pac twelve teams

680
00:45:01.639 --> 00:45:07.760
up against the Big twelve. And
now where it's different, it's basketball.

681
00:45:07.440 --> 00:45:10.280
Well, let me say one more
thing when we go. We talked about

682
00:45:10.280 --> 00:45:16.119
this earlier. Okay, the Big
twelve? Is he adding BYU, Cincinnati,

683
00:45:16.719 --> 00:45:22.199
Houston and Central Florida? Is that
great? Shakes? Right? That's

684
00:45:22.840 --> 00:45:24.800
like adding San Diego State, SMU
and Colorado State. Who are the three

685
00:45:24.840 --> 00:45:28.480
teams that are being talking about?
So well, anyways, I don't mean

686
00:45:28.480 --> 00:45:30.360
to cut you off in terms of
that, but what are your thoughts on

687
00:45:30.400 --> 00:45:34.920
all that? Well, you know, I'm still thinking what, Okay,

688
00:45:34.960 --> 00:45:39.760
We've lost two huge markets now,
right, Okay, And I'm not worried

689
00:45:39.760 --> 00:45:45.440
about the teams themselves. But you've
lost such a large exposure by losing that

690
00:45:45.519 --> 00:45:51.239
Denver market, and we have we
have no Southern California market whatsoever, right,

691
00:45:52.199 --> 00:45:54.360
and and that that really hurts.
It's not so much the teams,

692
00:45:54.639 --> 00:45:59.800
it's the markets you're losing. And
now the Colorado has gone, how soon

693
00:46:00.079 --> 00:46:04.800
tell Washington and Oregon are out of
here? Because there still is for some

694
00:46:04.880 --> 00:46:08.119
unknown reason, we have no TV
contract. Right. Well, that's the

695
00:46:08.199 --> 00:46:12.199
thing, and and that's the thing, if all things being equal, the

696
00:46:12.280 --> 00:46:15.079
PAC twelve does not have its You
know, what I think is gonna happen

697
00:46:15.159 --> 00:46:20.119
is they're gonna sign some TV deal
that's gonna pay them twenty three twenty four

698
00:46:20.159 --> 00:46:22.800
million dollars. They're gonna, they're
gonna they're gonna stick with that. They're

699
00:46:22.800 --> 00:46:27.159
gonna sign a five year deal,
and the next round of realignment is going

700
00:46:27.199 --> 00:46:30.400
to throw everything up in the air
and it kind of all gets start over.

701
00:46:30.440 --> 00:46:32.639
Now, I think that's the end
of that kind of a contract for

702
00:46:32.719 --> 00:46:37.920
twenty three millions around. Um,
take the extra nine million and go to

703
00:46:37.960 --> 00:46:42.599
the Big twelve and see what happens
in if they invite to. Yeah,

704
00:46:42.639 --> 00:46:45.360
but I think they will. I
think that I think they would only for

705
00:46:45.400 --> 00:46:51.840
the fact we are pretty an inviting
team to have. You know, even

706
00:46:51.880 --> 00:46:53.920
though our football programs on the rise, it's, of course it's not that

707
00:46:54.039 --> 00:47:00.480
great yet. Our baseball team is
good. Softball's good, Basketball's terrific.

708
00:47:00.480 --> 00:47:06.239
As we all know, it would
be the best basketball conference, right if

709
00:47:06.480 --> 00:47:09.199
if it happens, if it,
if it happens, if air Zona goes

710
00:47:09.239 --> 00:47:14.639
to the Big twelve. To me, it's going to be about the basketball.

711
00:47:14.960 --> 00:47:16.360
Oh yeah, by fall. And
I'm just not sure how much that

712
00:47:16.800 --> 00:47:22.280
is going to drive this Yeah yeah. Also one thing too, You're talking

713
00:47:22.280 --> 00:47:27.960
about baseball contracts, and you know, I'm very happy that Cody Bellinger's doing

714
00:47:28.000 --> 00:47:30.199
well. Cubs are not going to
sign him to a long term contract.

715
00:47:30.480 --> 00:47:34.800
I mean, he's having a great
year, but he's had four pretty crappy

716
00:47:34.880 --> 00:47:39.039
years after he had his MVP year. Now it's one of those things,

717
00:47:39.039 --> 00:47:43.159
where are we are we gonna get
this guy a five year, one hundred

718
00:47:43.159 --> 00:47:45.719
and twenty five million cup on our
contract. But that's the world we live

719
00:47:45.760 --> 00:47:53.960
in. I know, I know, if we can turn around and get

720
00:47:54.000 --> 00:47:59.760
some young players and build this thing
up, and then you know, I

721
00:48:00.119 --> 00:48:04.239
think signing Dan v Swanson for one
hundred and seventy million dollars was a huge

722
00:48:04.280 --> 00:48:09.800
mistake too. I would I would
disagree with that because he's tremendous defensively,

723
00:48:10.760 --> 00:48:15.719
right, I mean tremendous. I
mean he's a Golden Glove infielder and he's

724
00:48:15.760 --> 00:48:21.360
hitting one time gold Glove fielder infielder. But he also what is it,

725
00:48:21.360 --> 00:48:24.639
what's this career batting average about two
sixty? It's players, I mean,

726
00:48:24.719 --> 00:48:29.400
players get better. I mean it's
you know, it's when they're a young

727
00:48:29.559 --> 00:48:34.840
player, they don't do great.
Uh you don't think Dan's Swanson did good

728
00:48:34.840 --> 00:48:38.480
for the Atlanta Braves. Well,
he did great for the Atlanta Braves.

729
00:48:38.719 --> 00:48:43.440
Everything they had around him too.
That makes a huge difference when you have

730
00:48:43.480 --> 00:48:45.800
a lineup like that, and you
know, I mean, look at the

731
00:48:45.840 --> 00:48:51.480
Braves have this year. Their lineup
is stacked. Everybody's good, unbelievable.

732
00:48:51.639 --> 00:48:55.039
So, but is Cody Bellinger have
a great lineup around him right now?

733
00:48:57.480 --> 00:49:00.880
Um? Part of that lineup yet? But still are you willing to are

734
00:49:00.880 --> 00:49:04.840
you willing to give him a five
six year contract at one hundred and twenty

735
00:49:04.840 --> 00:49:09.599
five million? I was definitely knowing
his past his last four years in baseball.

736
00:49:09.679 --> 00:49:14.280
Well, you keep going back to
the past. He was hurt,

737
00:49:14.400 --> 00:49:17.360
Iasontor Fan. How hurt was Cody
Bellinger? Well, he was hurt,

738
00:49:17.360 --> 00:49:23.159
but he pissed me off. Right, I mean, here's here's a good

739
00:49:23.239 --> 00:49:30.199
question for who's gonna take Who's gonna
take Cody Bellinger's place if he leaves?

740
00:49:30.280 --> 00:49:34.199
Well, okay, and that's what
the that's what the Cubs have to decide.

741
00:49:34.480 --> 00:49:37.480
Are they looking at Okay, are
we gonna go really young and build

742
00:49:37.519 --> 00:49:40.920
this program up? Well, we're
gonna go ahead, go ahead and sign

743
00:49:42.000 --> 00:49:45.280
him and try to put some people
in place around him. Well, they

744
00:49:45.320 --> 00:49:49.800
brought they brought up a stud first
baseman from the minor leagues who was going

745
00:49:49.840 --> 00:49:52.320
to be the next coming. He
got sent down last week. Right,

746
00:49:52.719 --> 00:49:55.920
Uh, It's baseball is a hard
game. I mean, I can tell

747
00:49:55.920 --> 00:50:04.000
you worked for thirty years, you
know it's it's it's a very very difficult

748
00:50:04.039 --> 00:50:07.760
game, you know, especially,
I mean I hate the word sweepers.

749
00:50:07.320 --> 00:50:10.360
You know, all of a sudden
that they've invented a new pitches it's a

750
00:50:10.400 --> 00:50:17.000
slider and right, But I mean, you sound like you're a knowledgeable guy

751
00:50:19.239 --> 00:50:22.000
five years ago today, have all
your relief pictures throwing one hundred plus.

752
00:50:22.800 --> 00:50:27.480
Yeah, yeah, seriously, you
know it pretty kind of stand is that

753
00:50:27.599 --> 00:50:30.880
you're gonna turn around and you're gonna
pay pictures all this money who only throw

754
00:50:30.960 --> 00:50:36.679
five innings a game? Well,
and that's the one thing when you talk

755
00:50:36.760 --> 00:50:42.800
about money again, I would probably
give it to a guy who plays one

756
00:50:42.840 --> 00:50:46.679
hundred and forty games instead of a
guy who pitches every fifth day. Uh,

757
00:50:47.559 --> 00:50:52.440
I don't. I would agree that
that's not a great investment. You

758
00:50:52.440 --> 00:50:55.800
know, there's a guy with the
Texas Rangers right now. I think his

759
00:50:55.920 --> 00:51:02.440
name is Jacob deGrom R. What
is the last two years? Exactly?

760
00:51:02.519 --> 00:51:07.039
Exactly? Hey, Brian, you
know, I know the Dodgers are going

761
00:51:07.079 --> 00:51:10.679
to go excited how much you're gonna
pay a guy like that, knowing that

762
00:51:10.920 --> 00:51:22.000
possibly he's only gonna pitch probably about
um maybe as a pitcher two more years.

763
00:51:22.119 --> 00:51:27.920
I can't There's there's so much more
that comes with the showy. Hey

764
00:51:27.920 --> 00:51:29.760
Brian, we gotta go. We're
hit the top of the hour. So

765
00:51:30.119 --> 00:51:31.320
all right, man, we'll talk
some more. Thanks so much for college.

766
00:51:31.559 --> 00:51:37.480
Okay, you know what's it's it's
funny. I mean, you're an

767
00:51:37.519 --> 00:51:39.559
executive, if you're a baseball executive, so I think you understand this more

768
00:51:39.599 --> 00:51:43.199
than a lot of the guys.
When you you gotta pay a guy,

769
00:51:43.480 --> 00:51:45.239
you know, how much do you
pay him? How long do you pay

770
00:51:45.320 --> 00:51:46.840
him for? You know, we've
seen some of these comments. You're not

771
00:51:46.880 --> 00:51:52.280
comparing it to five years ago.
Yeah, I look, if Cody Bounders

772
00:51:52.559 --> 00:51:55.079
you feel like he's got it back, then I think you pay him.

773
00:51:55.119 --> 00:51:59.880
I think you know, Brian talks
about twenty five million like it's a it's

774
00:51:59.880 --> 00:52:02.239
a ton of money. That's not
a lot of money anymore. That's a

775
00:52:02.280 --> 00:52:05.440
good deal. That's that's not a
bad deal if you can get a guy

776
00:52:05.480 --> 00:52:07.960
like Cody Bounder for that amount.
All right, let's take our next breakwhere

777
00:52:08.000 --> 00:52:10.960
to come back. We'll be breaking
news and it's a lot of it's still

778
00:52:10.960 --> 00:52:15.280
surrounding this Colorado deal, but some
other stuff going on, so we'll be

779
00:52:15.400 --> 00:52:17.719
right back. Come on,