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Well problem or imagine just now.
That' s why I' m slow

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hello stela every time I do that. Silence, no silence, silence.

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There' s someone who doesn'
t get their hair kicked out with these

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audios. I didn' t have
time to do it. Assult me found

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out, because I can' t
take Esterra anymore is right now. My

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whole life has taken care of everything. So here we are presenting our new

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episode that at first we had a
good and pure intention that it would be

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rural terror two. We had a
very good idea, well, a very

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good idea, and you wanted it, too, which was the most important

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thing that was rural terror. Two
We already made rivals, two that was

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the most thrown out, the rural
land, the second most thrown out and

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we had many very cool cases that
we worry that someday yes, yes,

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we will take much longer. I
don' t expect anything. This podcast

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we' re going to be doing
eternum two years, two thousand eighty-

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five. But as always the present, that is to say, the life,

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the historicity demands and then Netflix has
released the one series that I do

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not know if you know, because
it has seen almost no one, the

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secret indie series of standunt festival The
case asunta. The case goes on in

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Netflix and then I would be with
all our good escalatist intent, very escalatos,

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very escalatos. We tried to talk
about other things and suddenly we saw

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that there was no room. It
doesn' t fit, we didn'

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t see that we just wanted to
talk about this, actually, because there

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are other cases of rural terror that
puts us in it. But what happens

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that Galicia has a special terror.
It' s just like that. Coño

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di is my fault and I said
we Monteuto that more rural than quantity horrates

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you the terror Rural Montoutor terror,
a forest track. You' d heard

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of the concept of a forest track. Not me, my life is left,

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there' s zero tea. That
is, how the term forest track

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was introduced into our vocabulary, into
our lives. It' s like penale

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ok that in principle it was like
what' s clear, so now we

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know. Everything, we have,
I mean, absolutely everything we already are.

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I' m Judge Tain. I
love to meet you Look, I

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hate you, but I have to
reason so much with the poor man.

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Well, it would be nice to
warn you to always warn Virgine. Let

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' s see, let' s
rip it all apart I mean, yeah,

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here it comes. I' ve
seen everything, uh, exactly that

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if someone' s seen it in
the show, and all of a sudden,

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if you' re listening to this, don' t hear it clearly,

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of course, suddenly enough to see
you know that here we' re

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going to talk. It' s
just that you don' t care if

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you prefer that we tell each other, we tell you better that you'

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re not faras, that is,
I changed the rock or the rock doesn

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' t do very well and then
nothing. We' ve decided it'

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s enough, we' re going
to do a special task. And it

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' s just that you asked us
to. It' s just that it

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' s been like people telling you
in instagram about my yu coyodito and like

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a whore. I' m not
going to say it, I' m

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not going to say it, but
in the end, well, that'

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s it, that' s it, that' s it. They'

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re going to tell absolutely everything and
nothing, because we' re going to

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start right now. How about this, come on, let' s go

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ahead, let' s go to
your Galician rum, your ronga or tur

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looks like your Galician rum. Well, for those of you who don'

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t remember, don' t remember
or don' t know, because it

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turns out that there are people who
didn' t know the case. Well,

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of course they' re young people. This leaves me a little bit

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of piquet. I don' t
know what world I live in anymore.

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I don' t know what world
people live in. Let' s remember

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a little bit like this, broadly
speaking, what' s the case.

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The matter, of course, is
that in the early morning of the 21st

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to the 22nd of September, the
police of Santiago receive a call from two

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gentlemen who were passing by at about
midnight to tell them that they have found

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the body of a girl on a
forest track in the town of Teo.

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The police ask them if you breathe
and you don' t breathe, if

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they' ve touched him and they
say no, they don' t breathe.

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She' s got the kid dead. They explain that he has blood

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on his nose, that he'
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the police say no. They touch
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They identify the child. The girl
is called astabasterro Porto. She is a

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12- year- old girl whose
parents had reported her disappearance at 10:

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30 p m. Hours before.
The police come to the mother' s

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rosary house because the parents are separated. They call it good look. We

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' ve found such Mother from the
beginning at all times says it can'

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t be She can' t be
her? Can' t it be her?

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Yeah, but she doesn' t
ask either, she doesn' t

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ask and how they found her.
Nothing, nothing, nothing. When they

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tell the father, the father,
at a certain point, goes down to

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smoke a cigarette with one of the
cops. She says I hope at least

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she hasn' t been raped.
Maybe it' s starting the gregify story.

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Let us also remember that the godmother
of the child, when she goes

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to the house, who have not
yet found her, is often reported missing.

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As he enters through the door of
Madrid. Fonso tells her we'

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ve lost her, we' ve
lost her already. Yeah. He'

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s already a little bit into it, a young woman as much for sitting

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down as many things, not many
things. It turns out that two days

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later, not two days later,
the three days after the discovery of the

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child, the mother is arrested by
Rosario Porto, right in the taratorium,

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right after the girl is incinerated,
which, of course, caused a lot

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of surprise for everyone. Even more
surprising because the next day they arrest the

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father, just after a record is
made of him and the funeral of the

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girl and she goes to the tanatorium. The mother arrives so antecedently, in

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her own tanatory, they subtract her, they stop her just as right there,

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inside the tanatorium a civil guard enters. Says Mira, I have to

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tell you one thing I have to
be a bit of a companion. She

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pings ping puns her in the car. When she has her in the car,

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she says Mira, pam Ella with
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candalite things, little dickheads, with
the hereditary cantita, and then the

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father has to go that effectively,
to the funeral in the afternoon and the

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next day they already make a record
in the good, the record is not

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record. What they do the next
day, look at this. I don

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' t have that good, they
go and see things. They go there

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to see what happens to see yes
and they stop the father too then,

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of course, people become a little
cracy because Jolin says that fast, you

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don' t. They have the
mother the next three days to the father.

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They have to have things very clear, well, as clear as 27

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September, that is, six days
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is going to be a character who
is going to come out a lot.

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Today, the judge there sends them
to pretrial detention, without trust, without

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anything, to prison, since you
go and well they never get out of

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prison. A few days later the
secret of that rises Mario. And that

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' s when information begins to come
out and all the inditles, little things,

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those little things that the police,
the investigators and the judge had to

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make that decision. We will find
it in more detail, in all,

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in the whole role to advance.
The reason to stop Rosario was that she

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said one thing and when they told
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she said another nose and, at
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the girl' s body they found
the equivalent of twenty- seven orcidal pills

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of what makes bread that is an
anxiolytic that leaves you out. Basically you

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know what 27 grams of pina benzodiaz
is in a body of an Ennige.

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Okay. I know, I know
that I know that I take an hour

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even and I stay out for seven
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took only once in my life,
because in Spain, besides, they don

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' t give them easily, at
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I don' t know in Galicia
de Santiago, but in my Spain,

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I have never been given them,
except once I went crying to the doctor

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because I had all my hairy legs
and couldn' t sleep. Yeah,

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he couldn' t sleep from the
itch and the pain. And I finally

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got hit and took half and slept
sixteen hours of the pull with half pills.

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Yeah, sure, 16 hours of
pulling. So we' re talking

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about seeing this 27 grams of whatever
it is, we integrate salt twenty-

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two and site grams of sugar you
go to shit, which is a lot

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over twenty- seven grams, that
is, in what it occupies. You

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know I' ve urged people to
take 27 grams of whatever and flour,

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for example, and put it in
a cup and see the amount of insistance

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of matter that' s good animalized, because that coincided with the purchase of

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large quantities that we' ll then
specify from this medication over several months backwards

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that the father had made them.
Here we have all the receipts, all

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the receipts, all the receipts here, all the receipts. In October of

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two thousand and fourteen the instruction is
closed. The twenty- ninth of September

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of two thousand and fifteen begins the
trial. I' m gonna make people

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a little quick, because then we' re gonna go into detail. It

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' s all just so that you
have everything sienta a little bit of timing

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exactly what happens the beginning of the
trial, on September 29th, after having

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a lot of problems with the jury, because there was a popular jury,

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of course, but to see that
there was so much media repercussion. With

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this it was impossible to find someone
in all Galicia who is to hate these

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people. There was also a lot
of media repercussion because we did not forget

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that the astunta was adopted and was
an international adoption of a time when international

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adoptions had been super fashionable and had
been a family that had had particular focus

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because it was one of the first
Chinese girls. I think they arrived in

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Santiago at that time of adoption the
first documentary and in Spain. I think

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I would be one of the first, also of the first, and then

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I' ll tell you my story
with the international initiatives you' re going

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to receive. No, no,
no, it' s just very strong.

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I mean, I' m present
in this case for my instance and

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I love her inside main person.
I know why I' m not surprised,

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you' ve freaked me out.
Well, I tell you what the

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hell in the summer of two thousand
one, not in the summer of the

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two thousand I had just graduated from, I sent a bunch of your resumes

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and answered myself a Mr C lawyer
who had an office. I am making

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quotes in the air, like jowe
office in his house on a street in

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Madrid, quite good and then he
told me that he needed someone to help

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him with the legal translations and I
was going for myself, myself. Well,

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it was really scary. I was
two days, well, a day

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and a half. In fact,
in the second I went to the pause

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and never came back what you say. Yes, yes, but that gift

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from Madrid, Salamanca, in Madrid, Madrid, Madrid. I had already

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returned to Madrid after graduating in Salamanca, and I returned and then my job

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was to be with him alone in
his home, which was already quite helpful.

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In one or, that is,
in a writer. He gave me

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a computer and I had to translate
international deduction files. Then he gave me

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a file and gave me abstractly all
the documents of the people I had not

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signed, for in no document or
anything had the denis, that is,

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absolutely everything of family. It was
from other times that i two thousand,

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no yes. The year 2000 then
I had to translate absolutely all Spanish documents

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into English because they sent it to
one the Commission for in those tales and

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it was, I had access to
not only the passports absolutely everything, but

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banking information, not mines, absolutely
everything. Or of course you know and

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yes. And the day after I
went in pants both times to work,

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then the next day, the gentleman
told me that the first time I went

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with a skirt, uh, then
the app did, just like that,

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and then I passed it to the
cafe I called a friend. Well,

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I texted him as soon as this
guy told me that I told him to

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come get me, please, you
left and I told him I' d

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come down for a coffee for me
and I didn' t come back.

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I mean, it literally proved that
you didn' t come back, but

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I didn' t choose. I
didn' t come back because it was

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super CREEPY for people who say run
away, women at work have always had

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it super easy. And if you
haven' t, then excuse me.

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Well, you know that, these
things happened and if I hadn' t

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left at the time, you know
what you would' ve done It'

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s not like you' ve baited
me. I thought you were going to

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tell me that you translated the pussy- ass teaching back there. Not because

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if I tell you that I don' t remember things I translated twenty-

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four years ago, because I think
you' ll understand me, but that

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we go that I and I remember
that suddenly, this guy told me what

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he was charging for every file,
for translating it myself, plus he didn

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' t do anything, that is, he was just picking up the papers

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and checking that everything was there and
sending it to me. He paid me

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money for a file, I mean, I don' t even want to

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imagine. I imagine he' d
get at least ten times as much as

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he paid you. You can say
that, because I was a whistler.

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I think it is to remember that
they were like to see they were pesetas

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because it was reading the year two
thousand I paid like five zero pelas per

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file and I, in an hour
half hour I ventilated them, because it

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was all the same. In the
end it was a ney and I don

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' t know what, I know
what made me the template, I made

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a template, I made a macro
and in the end they translated them to

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me for fifteen minutes. So,
in the end, I got some dough.

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I don' t remember whether he
paid me or not. The truth

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is, I don' t care, man, but for you to see

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the mob that was that, of
course it was a gentleman in his office

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having a freshly licensed girl, doing
the dirty work and taking it absolutely raw.

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Not at that time, the international
claims in Spain were already very controversial

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and very controversial. Of course,
and there were a lot of people saying

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that adopted children aren' t like
real ones. I don' t know.

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I don' t know when we' re going to give a little

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background to who Rosario and Alfonso were, and that' s how we'

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re getting it. We return a
little moment that I think we have not

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come to comment that the jury finds
them guilty on October thirty to two thousand

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fifteen. Yes, yes, I
think it' s unanimous. I think

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they need seven out of nine for
such and I think it was an anime

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and the judge sends them eighteen years
in prison and well, they haven'

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t accepted the resources, they haven' t accepted anything. And after several

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suicide attempts in prison, because Rosario
finally committed suicide on November 18, two

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thousand and twenty and Alfonso is still
there. It must be said that they

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at all times, always, always, at all times, maintained their innocence.

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So, already with the summary done
here and the episode translating between international

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Virginia' s antics, that will
be one of my star appearances, in

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this case, not the last one, but you can' t do this

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to me is that I' ve
thought, I say mother, to say

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that he had the file pointing over
there. The best thing I had was

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that I don' t know.
I don' t know, because this

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is the year of 2, 000. It does not take nation the year

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is born in the year two thousand, for already yes, yes, you

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can do the thirty of September.
From September thirty of the year two thousand

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we will then make one we will
travel in time, we will understand a

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little. It may have happened,
although it is totally and absolutely incomprehensible what

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happened, but well, but I
think it is important because this case is

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all based on circumstantial. So what
we have to do a little bit is

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make it clear that these circumstances form
a line of points for them that if

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you actually join one point to the
other, that is, it was clear

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that it was this, because it
has always been said further that in this

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case, for the trial, there
were many clues, but no evidence.

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I mean, that' s either
clear or evidence like pam nothing, but

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clear clues. There were four hundred
million, like other provisions you go.

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All of us are going to try
and grab a little pen and join all

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those lines so that we all see
the drawing that draws its conclusions. We

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' re not going to say anything, because if they don' t stop

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us and we don' t want
him to open up in jail. My

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opinion if I' m gonna say
it, ah it' s cool,

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yeah, ah, well. I
too have legal opinions in this country.

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Yes, yes, not yet as
in Eurovision, ah, no, like

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Hahaha, I have to shut up. I' m not gonna be able

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to do it all my life.
Well, we' re going to travel

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in time and we' re going
to a thousand nine hundred and ninety.

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Rosario Porto and Alfonso Basterra know each
other. She' s twenty- one

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and he' s twenty- six. Rosario is a Galician lawyer. She

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' s an only child, she' s not an only child, yes,

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she' s a loving daughter,
like she' s another virgin.

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Yeah, what do you think,
but she' s a little bit more

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than giving you a little more one- of- a- kind daughter than

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we are. Well, Rosario is
the daughter of a well- known lawyer

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Santiago de Compostela, with a lot
of power, with a lot of power,

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with a lot of presence. She' s the daughter of a story,

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of a professor of history, that
is to say, a very,

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very, very helpful ortega lady.
Or we' re already talking about a

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house with culture, with power,
with money, composition. Of course,

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we are talking about a man who
was the father, who was honorary consul

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of France in Santiago, who was
a very beautiful thing that Franco gave.

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I don' t know if you
remember this gentleman. Yeah,' cause

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I' m this honorary consul thing. I don' t know what it

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is, because it' s a
thing Franco gave. Well it is not

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given by Franco, it is not
true, it is a thing that Franco

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sponsored, because he liked very much, France, he liked very much,

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honorary consul, that it was a
figure that at that time it was all

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so absolutely mixed with the moment facherio
and in Garicia, in Madrid, Well,

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of course, in cha and then
this gentleman let us say that it

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was affection to the regime, affection
to the Franco regime. And he hears

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that you understand me at that time, because who doesn' t. But

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well, there were people who more
than others, more agreement, there were

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already people who benefited a little bit
more also yes, of course, because,

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you don' t compose in this
gentleman, for example, that he

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was absolutely lined up, that he
had a law firm, that was one

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of the best in Santiago, is
the best. And then this girl is

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sent to study in Paris, London, Charo speaks a lot of languages.

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She' s super cultured. She
inherits when the father dies, because it

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is a vital charge with her side, the Honorary Consulate of France, she

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has it. I mean, it' s all how post- inner you

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know how much post- uncle.
In this context she grows up not in

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a very exotic family in a family
in which she does not raise a finger.

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I make it clear, because she
becomes a lawyer, because it'

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s time to become a lawyer,
but she doesn' t exercise because she

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says she doesn' t like it
good when she comes back from licenses,

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she never takes school, she never
went to practice as such if she doesn

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' t college, because she didn' t intend to practice ever to see

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effectively, she didn' t do
legal consulting at her father' s firm,

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that is, she helped with cases
and such, and then she did

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do legal consulting on time. But
if you' re never collegial, because

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you can' t exercise, you
can' t do it. But then

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we' ll talk about legal consultancies. Yeah, yeah, yeah, then

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we talked about carrituality, the end
of tinder, but consulting in more records,

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with soludo of more records. Good
fire, because in that context it

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grows exactly with a lot of pressure. Also, that is, I make

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a family as very important of claw, very spoiled and very spoiled, it

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still eats in which it did nothing
in its life, that this is very

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important, very important. They send
her to study at the Sorbonne and what

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' s wrong with her? The
Sorbonne is sent to study, to Paris,

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the pass that has a catacroker,
it is given by a catacroker,

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La doncata croker because it says that
no one knows her there, of course,

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because you say that I arrived there
and I in Santiago, cries to

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someone and suddenly, in Paris nobody
knows me who will know you Marico and

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it was nobody. But to see
there we already started to see already fuckcs

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because of course, if we are
talking about that it was sent to the

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Orbonas, that it would be eighteen
years old, because also Alfonso knows it

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with twenty, maybe twenty very young
and already we begin to see there scratches

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narcissistitas. It' s just that
people don' t look at me good

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people and the first psychiatric reports they
have from that time, because diagnosed tube

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depression that again, back then we' re talking about the eighties and high

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wasn' t like it was now, so I diagnosed you with depression.

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It was in the nineties, we
talked about the nineties, not just before

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that, at the time, his
university period, already diagnosed depression and medicated

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him that what I am telling you
in the late eighties, before knowing Alfonso,

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yes late eighties, that a person
so young already diagnosed something. It

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is because the thing was quite serious, that is to say it already came

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to the relationship with Alfonso, with
a background of depression, mental illness and

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what is accurate, then in the
nineties they are known. Him. It

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' s good. He' s
a journalist from the Basque Country, there

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' s no such thing as a
very good one, I guess from a

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more or less normal family. Well, the father is a little strong,

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because Alfonso' s father, when
he passed the case is I say as

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some interviews and there are like a
couple of videos that good that is to

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invite you to look for an interview
of Alfonso Vazterra father. Galician television.

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Basically that comes to say that the
whole thing was the fault of the mother

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who had been in trouble with other
guys. And yes, yes, of

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course she was a manipulator, because
this, moreover, is one thing that,

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well, I' m getting ahead
of myself. It is a thing

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that surprises me a lot because with
all this on the case and with all

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that has been explained again now and
has been commented again and so clearly,

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I remember that when it happened.
There was a little belief that she was

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the manipulative one, the one who
had handled everything, she presented it,

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she had done everything and that he
was a little guy who was very much

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in love, that yes, that
he was totally manipulated. And so.

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But now, with all the information
that we have, it is totally and

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absolutely the opposite, that we will
explain it already and already that it is

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the usual heteropatriarchal journalism, always presenting
things in plan, always the woman,

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the bad one, always was woman, the cunning, always the woman that

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we are talking about the case in
two thousand thirteen. Yes, of course,

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I think that fortunately, I think
that also good on the subject of

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events, I did not know that
we have advanced a peline, we have

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made a little progress. Yes,
I think so, uh, I think

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so, and I think that here
too an elephant is present in the room,

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which is another thing that I want
to comment on that is super important

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to me, which is totally linked
to the ineptitude of char or self-

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management. It' s Alfonso Asterra' s roll, not that he was

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a mistreater, that is, he
exists ecologically and was like miniformes. There

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are no reports to cast porto tells
psychiatrists when they make the evaluation during the

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Summary instruction, that Alfonso beat her
three or four times a year. There

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were violent episodes and we don'
t need it either, because nothing more

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than watching the video of being a
giver of the body when he is going

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to interview fans Basterra with the artichoke
down the street the face of this man

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that if he doesn' t get
there there are people, because obviously he

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puts a trick in the face that
Antonio David left when they announced is that

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it is the same profile as Antoni
life. It' s that psychotic,

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aggressive, narcissistic thing. He reminded
me of me I' ve told you

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several times. He reminded me quite
a bit of Michael petersenal of Stercase,

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the typical husband dependent on a woman
I charoporto. I' m not going

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to say it was brilliant, but
it was lined up. Then yes,

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he has a dependency. So I
think all of this all of a sudden,

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like, conforms you know, the
dotted line gives him even more points.

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Yeah, yeah. Of course the
point is that he' s a

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man I' m always going to
say allegedly, allegedly violent. Presents all

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the amazing friends assumed. It'
s called the bill at Rosario' s

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house. There' s a door
that' s broken. Of course he

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broke it when he argued with her, when he found out, when he

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told her he had heard, that
he had been faithful. Of course,

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he wrote a letter that is two
thousand seventeen, when Ramón campes the director

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of the series, who is the
director of the locu that premiered a few

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years ago and he is all the
time talking about his anger, about controlling

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anger, that I don' t
know what, that I mean. He

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himself is recognizing that he has anger
problems, problems going to very heavy then

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of course he is a person who
knows how to control himself. No.

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I' m not justifying myself all
the time that I don' t have

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to control myself. Everything. I' m going to control you nothing,

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because I' m a normal thing. But well, since your resource that

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you go to that, that is, your brain, goes to that all

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the time it' s like a
fact that you yourself are just planting only

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conscious sectors. Well, they'
re getting married on October 26th of a

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thousand nine hundred and ninety- six. Disappeared property. By the way,

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we remember that he comes from a
family that, well, not as wealthy

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as Rosario. Rosario has there to
drive, she has power Ford from Pipol

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and well, she herself recognizes that
the first years were idyllic, very happy.

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Then, two years after getting married
under pressure from parents, adoption procedures

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mainly begin. Rosario' s parents
want to have an heir, I guess,

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not an heir, well, I
guess they' re also the kind

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of family that for the family to
be complete has to have children and,

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as charo, I didn' t
want to be, I didn' t

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want to have children because of their
mental health problems and also because I was

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dianostic about lupus and I don'
t know if it should be a disease.

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There' s a lot of lupus
and super- des pregnancy recommended,

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because it' s a horror,
not a lot of hormonal and well,

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I didn' t want to go
through that. He doesn' t even

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make the baby come in. I
guess the baby in that sense comes,

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but well it' s also important
the fact that it' s a little

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bit more because of pressure from them
in. It wasn' t something that

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came out of them. But well, the process of induction in China begins.

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What you were saying was in the
late 1990s was a bit of a

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boom in international productions. I think
it was also the boom of the Chinese

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girls issue. This they commented on, yes, the order of the Chinese

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Government, which did not allow for
more than two children and that there were

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many girls who were born who gave
them in adoption. The whole thing about

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Chinese orphanages living in deplorable, terrible, monstrous conditions. Very curious because you

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00:26:41.160 --> 00:26:45.599
see one of the interviews that Alfonso
did him saying that good that they when

414
00:26:45.640 --> 00:26:48.839
they there the orphanage saw him divine, that is, let' s go,

415
00:26:48.680 --> 00:26:52.240
for example, that mine what you
saw was not the orphanage. You

416
00:26:52.319 --> 00:26:56.160
had something else clear. Of course, then, the thirty of September of

417
00:26:56.319 --> 00:27:03.640
two thousand was born from John Fan
in the city Onzo and the July of

418
00:27:03.720 --> 00:27:07.279
the following year arrived in Santiago.
She' s nine months old and what

419
00:27:07.319 --> 00:27:14.480
you said is Santiago' s first
adopted Chinese girl. At the very least,

420
00:27:14.599 --> 00:27:19.519
and I believe that Galicia also had
a media repercussion. They interviewed the

421
00:27:21.039 --> 00:27:25.759
enchanted rosary, of course because it
had if we were talking about a person

422
00:27:25.799 --> 00:27:27.319
who left the Good, left France, from Paris, because they ignored him.

423
00:27:29.359 --> 00:27:33.279
But I know who was clear suddenly
to have, because the TV gallega

424
00:27:33.359 --> 00:27:37.920
the national TVs all doing interviews with
them. It is well known this video

425
00:27:37.960 --> 00:27:42.200
that opens the series with this video
that they are two in a square taking

426
00:27:42.240 --> 00:27:45.720
something, that is the girl running
from behind that already saying good. Of

427
00:27:45.720 --> 00:27:49.039
course, an adoption is like one, like a biological child. It'

428
00:27:49.160 --> 00:27:52.279
s for life. What do you
say yes, yes, for the whole

429
00:27:52.319 --> 00:27:59.920
life of who, for the whole
life Yes what happens to you I don

430
00:28:00.200 --> 00:28:03.279
' t know, yes that it
disturbs you a little at the best,

431
00:28:03.640 --> 00:28:08.839
because assuntas, a smart girl say
that with great ability of super endowed.

432
00:28:10.000 --> 00:28:11.960
I have to tell you yes,
yes, that, that' s for

433
00:28:11.039 --> 00:28:15.079
sure, but aunt, that'
s one thing that gives me like a

434
00:28:15.240 --> 00:28:18.680
lot of anger, because all the
time they' re talking about their high

435
00:28:18.680 --> 00:28:22.960
abilities, that I was super gifted, that I don' t know how

436
00:28:23.039 --> 00:28:26.079
their death was a shame, because
the girl had intellectual capital, which is

437
00:28:26.440 --> 00:28:27.920
like what if she were silly,
if she were silly, she wouldn'

438
00:28:27.920 --> 00:28:30.240
t have been very much the same. John benet died with the blondes,

439
00:28:30.440 --> 00:28:33.160
who was the pretty one, which
was clear, yes, but Nack was

440
00:28:33.400 --> 00:28:36.880
John Bennett, yes, yes,
yes, he has to feel more sorry

441
00:28:36.920 --> 00:28:40.519
because he played the violin and spoke
four languages, of course not all the

442
00:28:40.519 --> 00:28:41.799
time, he was super gifted.
What a pain in the ass, because

443
00:28:41.880 --> 00:28:45.039
Nora' s asking what' s
going on that it' s all about,

444
00:28:45.359 --> 00:28:45.880
it' s been silly, I
mean, I don' t know

445
00:28:45.880 --> 00:28:48.200
this, it' s really horrible. It makes a little nervous, but

446
00:28:48.240 --> 00:28:52.400
well, a very smart, advanced
girl who was going. It seems to

447
00:28:52.400 --> 00:28:56.279
me that they were two courses ahead
of what he had to do, they

448
00:28:56.279 --> 00:28:59.599
advanced it. Yeah,' cause
it was going too well. They were

449
00:28:59.559 --> 00:29:03.599
bored in their cles all day doing
classes. The French pine bridge is worth

450
00:29:03.640 --> 00:29:06.119
I don' t know, I
don' t know, I don'

451
00:29:06.119 --> 00:29:08.319
t know how much it is.
It' s also true that when you

452
00:29:08.319 --> 00:29:15.119
have it didn' t justify eh
eye, but it must be a very

453
00:29:15.119 --> 00:29:18.880
intense, poor little girl, mine, yes, of course, yes,

454
00:29:18.880 --> 00:29:21.079
so prepared in adolescence. It had
to be like a Latin bomb. That

455
00:29:21.599 --> 00:29:25.839
' s all good at first.
All well, until December 12, two

456
00:29:25.880 --> 00:29:29.759
thousand and eleven Paíce Socorro, who
is the mother of Rosario, seventy-

457
00:29:30.119 --> 00:29:33.119
eight years older, but not so
much death of natural cases, find her

458
00:29:33.160 --> 00:29:40.720
in bed or be dead is entered
sleeping. Or of course he also counts

459
00:29:40.759 --> 00:29:44.680
in the psychiatric tests that make him
that the relationship with his mother had always

460
00:29:44.720 --> 00:29:48.279
been a little tighter than this is
important. He also said it was his

461
00:29:48.279 --> 00:29:52.640
mother. She was literally obnoxious of
her mother. She was hateful to her

462
00:29:52.640 --> 00:29:56.480
mother. I think she was the
one who was the one who was so

463
00:29:56.559 --> 00:29:59.480
much more under pressure in the academic
sense of the studies, and just as

464
00:29:59.519 --> 00:30:02.519
she was a little less, because
since the mother was a professor and the

465
00:30:02.640 --> 00:30:06.519
other had only come to that she
had not even come to Collegiate you know

466
00:30:06.519 --> 00:30:07.920
clearly, well, like she was
a little under her, And so and

467
00:30:07.920 --> 00:30:11.640
with the father it is with whom
she had the most bond of such.

468
00:30:11.039 --> 00:30:15.079
And all this. Now let'
s remember that the parents were lined up,

469
00:30:15.720 --> 00:30:19.880
they had lots of properties, Puerto
Santiago, they had their metal,

470
00:30:21.039 --> 00:30:25.799
they had everything clear, we have
to keep in mind that Rosario was a

471
00:30:25.920 --> 00:30:26.400
little bit of daddy' s girl
who had the most bond with him.

472
00:30:26.880 --> 00:30:33.039
Yes, of course, when she
comes home, we have the girl she

473
00:30:33.160 --> 00:30:36.440
has, who is very smart,
who is very smart, super affectionate to

474
00:30:36.480 --> 00:30:40.200
grandparents, the charismatic, also who
has already sucked the attention and he and

475
00:30:40.200 --> 00:30:41.759
grandfather just drop the drool with the
girl, which is that she had a

476
00:30:42.359 --> 00:30:47.759
reaction. This is to me it
seems important, that is, the fact

477
00:30:47.759 --> 00:30:52.359
that it is clearly Rosario felt displaced
in her home to begin with. Yeah,

478
00:30:52.440 --> 00:30:56.319
yeah, with her parents. The
first whole thing they don' t

479
00:30:56.319 --> 00:31:00.079
do in autopsy until ma' am, because well he dies in sleep seventy

480
00:31:00.079 --> 00:31:03.000
- eight years. They incinerate it
immediately, okay, so they say hear

481
00:31:03.079 --> 00:31:07.480
well, because it is that nine
months later, on July 26, two

482
00:31:07.519 --> 00:31:12.319
thousand twelve, the father dies,
Francisco Porto dies in the same circumstances,

483
00:31:12.519 --> 00:31:17.759
that is, sleeping in his house. Yes, they also say well,

484
00:31:18.400 --> 00:31:19.240
because he was eighty- eight years
old. I mean, in that sense

485
00:31:19.359 --> 00:31:25.279
it is also worth the cinema were
very fast, of course this at the

486
00:31:25.319 --> 00:31:27.400
moment when it happens, because obviously, nobody, well, nobody gives it

487
00:31:27.400 --> 00:31:30.920
more importance. They' re not
two old gentlemen. Well, I think

488
00:31:30.039 --> 00:31:37.640
there was some voice from some cousin
who said look how curious, some cousin

489
00:31:37.519 --> 00:31:40.559
who wanted money. There had already
been in the middle of Grandma' s

490
00:31:40.839 --> 00:31:44.319
death and Grandpa' s death.
I think there had been problems with Grandfather

491
00:31:44.319 --> 00:31:47.240
' s management and what we do
with Grandpa as an eighty- eight-

492
00:31:47.559 --> 00:31:49.880
year- old man who' s
worth it or not worth it, we

493
00:31:49.880 --> 00:31:53.200
put him in a place, we
leave him with a girl, we leave

494
00:31:53.200 --> 00:31:55.319
him inside how we do it.
And then there had been. I think

495
00:31:55.319 --> 00:31:59.440
it' s trouble between Charo and
his father, because the father expected her

496
00:31:59.519 --> 00:32:00.559
to be the one to take care
of him. Not because you come in

497
00:32:00.599 --> 00:32:04.119
the morning, you put breakfast on
it, then you put the food on

498
00:32:04.160 --> 00:32:07.240
me, then for dinner and then
you take me to bed and I think

499
00:32:07.240 --> 00:32:08.119
they threw good, chas that they
threw out. I wasn' t ready

500
00:32:08.119 --> 00:32:12.960
to take care of anyone really good. We will see neither was nor was

501
00:32:13.039 --> 00:32:17.640
expected at that time, for what
a coincidence that the poor man dies just

502
00:32:17.920 --> 00:32:22.640
after the wife, the wife nine
months and that also they don' t

503
00:32:22.880 --> 00:32:25.799
make them carouses or anything, and
they tell us it was clear, that

504
00:32:25.880 --> 00:32:30.880
is, clearly treacherous, because we
no longer go so far as to assume

505
00:32:30.160 --> 00:32:36.000
that he has a particular English teacher. It opens a blog that is still

506
00:32:36.000 --> 00:32:42.480
on the Internet hanging. I found
it with a Google search and in that

507
00:32:40.400 --> 00:32:45.039
blog there are very few posts I
think there are three, but the last

508
00:32:45.079 --> 00:32:49.880
one is an English account, like
some kind of tell a story. I

509
00:32:49.920 --> 00:32:52.640
don' t know what. It
is a story of ghosts and related to

510
00:32:52.680 --> 00:32:57.359
the parks of Santiago and basically tells
the story of a woman who dies and

511
00:32:57.400 --> 00:32:59.799
her husband has to avenge her,
but the poor one kills him as well.

512
00:33:00.480 --> 00:33:05.319
Oh, wow, what? Wow? Wow? Wow? How curious,

513
00:33:05.480 --> 00:33:09.640
what you imagined a subject, another
dot for the dot line come there

514
00:33:09.720 --> 00:33:14.960
is in the blog good in the
story that counts astunta. It' s

515
00:33:15.039 --> 00:33:19.759
a bad man who kills both the
wife and the husband. He' s

516
00:33:19.799 --> 00:33:22.640
a bad man, a bad man
like a man there are many more gentlemen.

517
00:33:22.799 --> 00:33:24.400
Sure, well, no, yeah, well. It is clear that

518
00:33:24.440 --> 00:33:28.759
a child with a lot of imagination
was being taken up, but of course,

519
00:33:30.279 --> 00:33:35.440
it was imagination, yes, or
it was imagination mixed with who knows

520
00:33:36.079 --> 00:33:37.319
with what it is, because that' s good. In these in February

521
00:33:37.480 --> 00:33:40.759
of two thousand and twelve, it
turns out that rosary meets a man who

522
00:33:40.759 --> 00:33:45.799
is married, who has children whom
we will call the man of vedra.

523
00:33:45.839 --> 00:33:47.799
Hey, the stone man does like
thank you so much. You' re

524
00:33:47.839 --> 00:33:55.039
already the predatory entrepreneur of such a
noted river that it gave him like a

525
00:33:55.039 --> 00:34:01.400
drawer that doesn' t close.
Thanks for making that Mari clear let her

526
00:34:01.480 --> 00:34:07.480
look. He hangs alive FIFA,
hangs alive pink and tells Charo Charin Charin

527
00:34:08.280 --> 00:34:14.920
that he was called Charin Charin.
First he made his legal theories a legal

528
00:34:14.960 --> 00:34:17.480
story in your area. But the
issue of legal consultancies by Federo is also

529
00:34:17.519 --> 00:34:22.199
a story, because then he does
legal consultancies to another Mr Yes, there

530
00:34:22.199 --> 00:34:25.800
is a lot. Yes, it
also seems that I also carry his pussy

531
00:34:25.840 --> 00:34:29.800
that did all the Jewish cults,
which is that he wanted what is the

532
00:34:29.800 --> 00:34:34.280
problem of these legal consultancies, because
they threw out Charín Yes, that was

533
00:34:34.280 --> 00:34:37.519
not very wise. Auntie in the
sense that she left an absolutely incriminating cyber

534
00:34:37.559 --> 00:34:43.599
trail. Ah well, in which
he told absolutely everything he was elegated with

535
00:34:43.760 --> 00:34:47.280
this one. If I had a
relationship with the businessman Marroqui, the passion

536
00:34:47.320 --> 00:34:52.679
more, the trade unionist Forgiveness is
exactly prisoner. It' s supposed to

537
00:34:52.679 --> 00:34:55.800
feel everything. Morocco is an alleged
country that I wanted to talk about.

538
00:34:57.239 --> 00:34:59.800
It' s just that when I
discovered this person' s attendance, I

539
00:35:00.039 --> 00:35:02.400
really stayed, I stayed dead.
I mean, how can you be such

540
00:35:02.440 --> 00:35:07.559
a bad person strives. That gentleman, not Mr Bedra Eh, not the

541
00:35:07.559 --> 00:35:12.719
State businessman, the Moroccan trade unionist. The Moroccan trade unionist is another gentleman

542
00:35:12.719 --> 00:35:16.159
who appears in Rosario' s life
to whom she makes him. Counselors,

543
00:35:16.440 --> 00:35:20.880
he' s a gentleman who was
of workers' commissions and who they accused.

544
00:35:21.280 --> 00:35:22.039
I don' t think he even
went to jail. That' s

545
00:35:22.079 --> 00:35:24.599
why I think he got hit.
But they let her go for the mistake.

546
00:35:24.639 --> 00:35:29.159
So yes, it was a little
dongy Shady was the same. Whether

547
00:35:29.280 --> 00:35:35.440
it was because, instead of saying
they blamed him for the article x cadorce,

548
00:35:35.960 --> 00:35:38.079
it turns out it wasn' t
for the twelve more, it was

549
00:35:38.079 --> 00:35:40.239
article eight was less. But you
see, he' s a gentleman of

550
00:35:40.320 --> 00:35:45.840
workers' commissions who charged immigrants to
give them work. I mean, aunt

551
00:35:45.119 --> 00:35:49.079
how you can be on top was
Moroccan too you say if it' s

552
00:35:49.079 --> 00:35:51.360
Spanish. Okay. But, fellas, what are you doing? Well,

553
00:35:51.440 --> 00:35:55.320
presumably, presumably, but let'
s go that this is published in the

554
00:35:55.360 --> 00:35:58.760
country, it' s published the
so- called, it' s published

555
00:35:58.840 --> 00:36:00.000
by everyone, that we' re
not taking it out here exclusive to none.

556
00:36:01.039 --> 00:36:04.760
No, no, no, no, this is all documented, state,

557
00:36:04.840 --> 00:36:07.559
there are unpublished papers, so if
you have to stop someone who has

558
00:36:07.639 --> 00:36:13.400
people the vanguard of us, let' s actually remember that they don'

559
00:36:13.960 --> 00:36:15.880
t work anymore. Of course,
he' s been out of work for

560
00:36:15.880 --> 00:36:21.000
so many years now. She is
a person who during the early childhood of

561
00:36:21.079 --> 00:36:23.719
clearly assumed that they are more above
the children because they are small, but

562
00:36:23.719 --> 00:36:27.840
Asunta immediately, she became a totally
self- managed girl, who went to

563
00:36:27.840 --> 00:36:29.760
her alone, to the places that
were done, it is already the duties,

564
00:36:29.920 --> 00:36:31.360
that was done, the food,
that was made all she. Then

565
00:36:31.480 --> 00:36:35.199
rosary suddenly has a lot of free
time left and when the devil gets bored,

566
00:36:35.519 --> 00:36:39.079
fly- killers with the clear rap, then, suddenly the legal consulting

567
00:36:39.800 --> 00:36:44.559
take off, this dress the other. In the end it leads to confusion.

568
00:36:44.679 --> 00:36:50.119
The nights confuse them. Then there
were many emails with the gifted entrepreneur

569
00:36:50.599 --> 00:36:57.239
and certain things quite incriminating in the
eyes of a husband with the Moroccan trade

570
00:36:57.239 --> 00:37:00.000
unionist. Sure, and I don' t think they were the only two.

571
00:37:00.079 --> 00:37:04.159
I knew more ah great what aunt, because she said sorry, so

572
00:37:04.199 --> 00:37:07.559
she' s here. They also
put me looking for basin and I stay

573
00:37:07.559 --> 00:37:12.880
so at ease and poor, a
poor little not important fact that I read

574
00:37:12.400 --> 00:37:17.039
when I entered the eastern loop of
the bad unionist person, presumably that it

575
00:37:17.119 --> 00:37:19.920
is that this gentleman is seen to
be the one who received the people in

576
00:37:19.920 --> 00:37:22.079
the tanatorio. Yes, yes,
he was a friend of the family and

577
00:37:22.159 --> 00:37:27.119
that Rosario was arrested as soon as
it was there, because since this man

578
00:37:27.199 --> 00:37:31.159
was under investigation at that time,
it just coincides, he feared that he

579
00:37:31.239 --> 00:37:35.880
would take Barrocos. Of course data
is that there was risk of data also

580
00:37:35.960 --> 00:37:37.480
that the hot tine is very clever. So, they kind of looked there

581
00:37:37.559 --> 00:37:43.079
for the way there' s a
risk of international flight. So I don

582
00:37:43.159 --> 00:37:44.719
' t know what,' cause
he' s got a Moroccan friend,

583
00:37:44.719 --> 00:37:46.039
man. Let' s see,
let' s see, let' s

584
00:37:46.039 --> 00:37:52.800
see. We accepted octopus as a
companion animal, but that wastain being very

585
00:37:52.920 --> 00:37:54.679
smart. I give the Hot Time
that he' s very smart. Mr

586
00:37:54.840 --> 00:38:00.519
Yes, Your Honor, you'
re impressively smart, a little bit Trinker

587
00:38:00.599 --> 00:38:02.960
is, too, but come on. So what else to talk about.

588
00:38:04.039 --> 00:38:07.719
Let' s comment, Let'
s put on the table the fact that

589
00:38:07.800 --> 00:38:10.960
Rosario is there looking for them to
fix her comfortable and drawers to screw her.

590
00:38:12.119 --> 00:38:15.360
Yeah, what was going on at
home? It happened at home,

591
00:38:15.960 --> 00:38:19.559
at home, things happened at home, nothing happened or yes, but it

592
00:38:19.599 --> 00:38:22.800
didn' t happen to her,
so, according to what she says in

593
00:38:22.840 --> 00:38:28.239
the psychiatric wards, there was a
lot of bad stuff and there were episodes

594
00:38:28.800 --> 00:38:34.599
of manustras and one thing happened,
which is that Alfonso treated her as a

595
00:38:34.599 --> 00:38:37.719
complete invalid, invalid when it came
to doing things, like she wasn'

596
00:38:37.719 --> 00:38:42.719
t worth doing things in that sense
of invalid and treated her like she was

597
00:38:42.719 --> 00:38:45.880
silly. Then she suddenly created a
hyperdependence with Alfonso, because let' s

598
00:38:45.920 --> 00:38:51.280
remember another important point, another point
for the dotted line. Alfonso didn'

599
00:38:51.280 --> 00:38:52.800
t work either. That is another
reason why I am reminded a lot of

600
00:38:52.840 --> 00:38:55.719
a thousand that Petersen, who is
like the Lord, who has had his

601
00:38:55.840 --> 00:39:00.960
moment of glory, because he has
written for certain national newspapers, but his

602
00:39:01.159 --> 00:39:07.280
companions, many also say that as
he was one, he defined as having

603
00:39:07.360 --> 00:39:10.840
a lot of talent to write,
writes very well, but then it is

604
00:39:10.840 --> 00:39:14.599
not currant. It has no start
to tiva. Be thinking about making a

605
00:39:14.679 --> 00:39:21.199
mini mini summary of who Michael Petersom
is For anyone who doesn' t know

606
00:39:21.880 --> 00:39:24.480
Michael Petersen is Cathlen Petersen' s
husband. The case of Stercase that you

607
00:39:24.599 --> 00:39:29.639
will remember because it is a lady
that they are alone at home and all

608
00:39:29.719 --> 00:39:31.199
of a sudden, he calls at
two in the morning three in the morning

609
00:39:31.199 --> 00:39:34.639
and says that the woman has fallen
down the stairs and that she is dead.

610
00:39:34.880 --> 00:39:37.280
Then he comes to the police and
they find a person who has rushed

611
00:39:37.280 --> 00:39:40.199
down the stairs, but there is
a amount of blood there that is Chinese

612
00:39:40.199 --> 00:39:43.679
only in slaughter, that is to
say that it did not correspond at all

613
00:39:43.679 --> 00:39:45.280
to a person who falls down the
stairs, which, in theory is that

614
00:39:45.360 --> 00:39:50.320
there does not even have to be
a breach or anything because there is internal

615
00:39:50.360 --> 00:39:52.039
trauma, but he carts down a
ladder. In theory, it shouldn'

616
00:39:52.440 --> 00:39:57.440
t generate liters and rites of blood
all over the east. Then there are

617
00:39:57.440 --> 00:40:00.800
lacerations also found in Catline' s
skull and then there' s a chicken

618
00:40:00.840 --> 00:40:06.559
sitting on it because they basically accuse
him and made a Netflix documentary. In

619
00:40:06.559 --> 00:40:09.920
due course. When the case arose, he was followed by a French documentation

620
00:40:09.960 --> 00:40:14.119
team that he is in Netflixo the
first trcrime is important. This is one

621
00:40:14.119 --> 00:40:16.280
of the first important truc ramens.
Then there was a podcast called the BBC

622
00:40:16.360 --> 00:40:21.079
' s Beyon risonl Voldut, which
is wonderful, which went there and uncovered

623
00:40:21.079 --> 00:40:24.599
a lot of things the case eventually
reopened. They found him guilty and well,

624
00:40:25.239 --> 00:40:28.960
because there was also another theory,
which was the lacerations that had the

625
00:40:28.960 --> 00:40:30.960
skull. Her family said that it
was because he had attacked her with some

626
00:40:31.039 --> 00:40:36.159
kind of fire- fighting instrument,
which had a hook and a neighbor of

627
00:40:36.559 --> 00:40:38.679
his who lived in the area,
who said that there were many owls,

628
00:40:39.039 --> 00:40:43.599
that he had been attacked by an
owl because, well, it is true

629
00:40:43.800 --> 00:40:47.760
that there had been attacks by birds
of prey who have nails is true very

630
00:40:47.800 --> 00:40:51.519
sharp and are very large bugs.
And then I was saying that maybe the

631
00:40:51.519 --> 00:40:54.400
bus had broken into the ladder,
attacked. He had already been confused and

632
00:40:54.440 --> 00:40:59.719
totally dying for it and this man
was not. S l. S.

633
00:40:59.840 --> 00:41:04.360
He had a weird super past.
He explained well that he died another woman.

634
00:41:04.639 --> 00:41:08.239
Casually he died to the calera.
He dropped it. It wasn'

635
00:41:08.239 --> 00:41:12.280
t his, it was his friend' s wife, it was the father,

636
00:41:12.719 --> 00:41:15.360
but there was the father of the
other children who adopted to see is

637
00:41:15.360 --> 00:41:19.239
that the move is that he goes
to Germany, because he is in the

638
00:41:19.280 --> 00:41:21.280
army that had also lied about him. He had said he was a hero

639
00:41:21.320 --> 00:41:23.480
of the Korean war. Not later
was or are going to live in Germany

640
00:41:23.559 --> 00:41:27.559
with his first wife, with Patty, who have two children, two boys.

641
00:41:27.880 --> 00:41:30.199
So they live next to a house
that there' s another marriage with

642
00:41:30.199 --> 00:41:35.400
two girls, that marriage, well. There are certain reports that he,

643
00:41:35.679 --> 00:41:39.039
Michael Petersents, hooked up with the
husband of that marriage, with the husband

644
00:41:39.599 --> 00:41:45.599
clear because well, he found him
a lot of for homosexual and such that

645
00:41:45.639 --> 00:41:47.559
they can also say that it was
because of what Kathlin suddenly confronted him and

646
00:41:47.639 --> 00:41:52.000
told him because he had brought Chapers
to the house. Well, impressive moves.

647
00:41:52.960 --> 00:41:54.920
Then, all of a sudden,
what happens is that he' s

648
00:41:54.960 --> 00:41:57.960
the husband he' s hooking up
with in Germany. He dies of another

649
00:41:58.039 --> 00:42:02.360
circumstance, an accident, and at
six months the wife of the dead husband,

650
00:42:04.480 --> 00:42:07.079
who was Michael Pintersmon' s boyfriend, appears. The lover appears dead

651
00:42:08.000 --> 00:42:10.679
at the foot of a ladder.
I thought he was hooked up with her,

652
00:42:12.079 --> 00:42:14.360
not quite the same with him.
Maybe I' ll go out with

653
00:42:14.360 --> 00:42:15.559
both of you. Yeah, maybe, because it could be like the two

654
00:42:15.559 --> 00:42:17.760
of us. Then they stay with
the girls of that marriage who therefore have

655
00:42:17.840 --> 00:42:22.280
four more children and another who brings
Catheline to the marriage were five brothers.

656
00:42:23.760 --> 00:42:29.039
But the two middle girls aren'
t biological because they' re from the

657
00:42:29.039 --> 00:42:30.519
other marriage that' s why there' s so much moving in the series,

658
00:42:30.639 --> 00:42:34.119
because suddenly they find out that maybe
Michael Pitterson also killed his mother and

659
00:42:34.199 --> 00:42:38.719
then he looks like o. But
this man is a very dark man who

660
00:42:38.760 --> 00:42:45.639
also thinks of himself in terms like
very inflated, very high, very high,

661
00:42:45.480 --> 00:42:51.480
quite condescending, very preponderant economically,
totally looking after his wife, because

662
00:42:51.559 --> 00:42:55.119
Cathlyn Peterson also remembers that she was
lined, because she was still having a

663
00:42:55.159 --> 00:42:58.880
pitch in a story. Alfont Basterra
had no sources of income. What he

664
00:42:58.880 --> 00:43:01.000
did was that he devoted himself to
the child fully then the Charo could make

665
00:43:01.079 --> 00:43:05.119
his life, that this was him
as the treatment they had come to.

666
00:43:05.559 --> 00:43:07.039
Alfonso was the one who went,
brought her, took her, looked for

667
00:43:07.199 --> 00:43:10.639
her, bought the ballet major,
bought her a book, everything everything was

668
00:43:10.760 --> 00:43:17.280
done by Alfonso Charo. I was
there a little bit for logistics to manage

669
00:43:17.360 --> 00:43:20.079
and decide things and, above all, to pay for them. Of course,

670
00:43:20.320 --> 00:43:22.480
she was the one who paid for
absolutely everything. That was the situation

671
00:43:22.480 --> 00:43:25.000
we were in. That was the
situation they were in until January 5,

672
00:43:27.239 --> 00:43:30.480
the eve of kings of two thousand
thirteen. Well, thanks to this,

673
00:43:31.039 --> 00:43:34.599
you said that she was the poor, dumbest, and left a heavy trail.

674
00:43:36.039 --> 00:43:38.920
Well, he gets into the e- mail to her you say friend

675
00:43:39.039 --> 00:43:43.559
too, my son, I don' t know, he enters the end

676
00:43:43.559 --> 00:43:45.280
of people and discovers the infidelity of
charo. Yeah, and he gets,

677
00:43:45.559 --> 00:43:47.960
well, of course, he has
a spectacular idiot face left, because well

678
00:43:49.039 --> 00:43:51.480
they say besides everything, that is, apart from everything, they say that

679
00:43:51.800 --> 00:43:54.519
he, because he was like super
in love with her. I don'

680
00:43:54.599 --> 00:43:58.119
t know. I think it was
a little bit more like I think hyperdependence.

681
00:43:59.320 --> 00:44:02.039
Yeah, yeah, totally and well, because that' s there for

682
00:44:02.119 --> 00:44:06.719
a couple of days, there with
the roll eating him up like a lid

683
00:44:06.760 --> 00:44:09.480
Pa until he finally confronts her and
tells her to look up at this.

684
00:44:10.079 --> 00:44:15.480
What he expects is that she immediately
made the decision to leave him. Yeah,

685
00:44:16.039 --> 00:44:19.880
' cause he tells him he discovers
the cid and they league January.

686
00:44:19.920 --> 00:44:22.679
At the beginning of January and on
the 13th of February they were signing the

687
00:44:22.719 --> 00:44:27.920
divorce, that is, a month
what, in fact, it says in

688
00:44:27.920 --> 00:44:30.360
" Fuck". The truth is
that it was not that I thought I

689
00:44:30.440 --> 00:44:32.800
was going to do so fast,
because he is that she was not fast

690
00:44:32.920 --> 00:44:37.239
and had been for years with that
clear decision command, i e, yes,

691
00:44:37.719 --> 00:44:39.639
yes, well, at least I
was carrying one, which is the

692
00:44:39.719 --> 00:44:43.639
time that I was with this gentleman
who said that good or be it if

693
00:44:43.639 --> 00:44:46.199
I had thought that everyone says that
as soon as he separated from Alfonso,

694
00:44:46.760 --> 00:44:50.119
even though he fell all the responsibilities. Above, because we will now comment

695
00:44:50.320 --> 00:44:55.360
on the turn that sticks to Alfonso, that all this roll of control towards

696
00:44:55.480 --> 00:44:58.079
her is multiplied by twenty despite the
fact that they do not live together.

697
00:44:58.800 --> 00:45:00.599
But of course, she gets free, or she' s happy, but

698
00:45:00.599 --> 00:45:02.719
she says good. I' m
taking the world further off. I'

699
00:45:02.760 --> 00:45:07.159
m comical things. What a problem
we have now very serious again. Another

700
00:45:07.199 --> 00:45:09.079
parallel to Michael Peterson' s case
is that suddenly, the phons will be

701
00:45:09.119 --> 00:45:14.679
found without a hard clan of income, there' s no money. What

702
00:45:14.679 --> 00:45:17.000
we do, then, what the
fon subasterra does is that it goes to

703
00:45:17.039 --> 00:45:22.440
a relative who has in the Basque
Country, who lends him money that will

704
00:45:22.519 --> 00:45:25.239
be worth for a while, because
this man has no job and gets a

705
00:45:25.280 --> 00:45:30.280
flat in it, the same block
where his wife and daughter lived 100 meters

706
00:45:30.320 --> 00:45:32.639
ago, it was a hundred meters
away, the same block that there is

707
00:45:32.960 --> 00:45:36.960
not even to cross bans that serves
him to be so close by the girl,

708
00:45:37.159 --> 00:45:38.559
not for convenience and such, but
let' s go what basically is

709
00:45:38.719 --> 00:45:42.679
by that painting clear, of course, papispal, but also what he was

710
00:45:42.719 --> 00:45:45.320
doing was not. I' m
going too far because I' m going

711
00:45:45.360 --> 00:45:47.639
to come back because remember that floor, which says it in the sumar and

712
00:45:47.679 --> 00:45:51.239
everything was completely empty. I mean, he didn' t put any effort

713
00:45:51.239 --> 00:45:54.400
into decorating it or anything. He
didn' t put any effort into suddenly

714
00:45:54.480 --> 00:45:57.760
rebuilding his life and saying I'
m going to look for work. I

715
00:45:57.760 --> 00:46:00.559
' m gonna make my life.
Not because I knew plan was to come

716
00:46:00.559 --> 00:46:04.199
back. In fact, there'
s someone who tells this he' s

717
00:46:04.280 --> 00:46:06.559
like this, yeah, there'
s a moment no. This is it

718
00:46:06.559 --> 00:46:08.360
now. I don' t remember
who I don' t know if it

719
00:46:08.400 --> 00:46:09.760
' s the landlord on the floor, I' m going back to her.

720
00:46:09.960 --> 00:46:12.440
To the landlord on the floor,
I think he says no. If

721
00:46:12.480 --> 00:46:15.000
this is temporary. Yeah, that' s temporary, because I' m

722
00:46:15.039 --> 00:46:16.079
going back to her. I mean, he' s very clear. Well,

723
00:46:16.159 --> 00:46:21.360
when they already make lives a little
apart, we have a happy charo

724
00:46:21.400 --> 00:46:23.360
with the girl. Well, as
happy as he can be, of course,

725
00:46:23.519 --> 00:46:30.679
with his moves. He doesn'
t have Alfonso there precisely to help

726
00:46:30.719 --> 00:46:32.360
him do all things. And we' re talking about a person who has

727
00:46:32.440 --> 00:46:38.400
mental health problems, depression problems,
problems that everyone has always done. Yes,

728
00:46:38.639 --> 00:46:43.400
it all comes a little over her
and the other one gets totally and

729
00:46:43.440 --> 00:46:49.719
absolutely crazy and starts to crush her
based on crazy emails apart from super spiteful,

730
00:46:50.119 --> 00:46:55.119
with many huge and accurate views,
i e, exhausting her with all

731
00:46:55.199 --> 00:46:59.119
the tasks she has as telling her. All this was what I did,

732
00:46:59.320 --> 00:47:00.960
as you were, making this decision
to kick me out of your life.

733
00:47:01.159 --> 00:47:05.000
Now you' re going to have
to do all this now, you'

734
00:47:05.039 --> 00:47:07.239
re going to fuck yourself up and
it was stuff, because from going down

735
00:47:07.280 --> 00:47:12.599
the trash to going to the teahouse
to changing the stuff from sub- schemizers,

736
00:47:14.280 --> 00:47:20.159
these are important, so important,
but those e- mails that circulate

737
00:47:20.280 --> 00:47:22.320
around there I' ve read some
of them a couple It' s true

738
00:47:22.320 --> 00:47:22.320
that I' m doing you right, because they' re all in lower

739
00:47:22.320 --> 00:47:24.119
case. He doesn' t have
a coma, that' s what you

740
00:47:24.119 --> 00:47:27.000
' re saying. Sir to be
journalists that I' m pretty bad,

741
00:47:27.800 --> 00:47:30.840
no, but I was still making
him apostal, of course, loyal,

742
00:47:30.000 --> 00:47:34.880
all glued up. There are no
separate points. They' re very long

743
00:47:34.920 --> 00:47:37.000
and they' re all like chores, because I don' t know why

744
00:47:37.000 --> 00:47:38.280
you did this to me, but
you have to do or, or alternate.

745
00:47:38.400 --> 00:47:40.800
I' m the victim. I
make you look like you' re

746
00:47:40.840 --> 00:47:45.800
in this situation because it' s
got you in it because you' re

747
00:47:45.800 --> 00:47:47.280
fresh. But on top of that, I remind you that you have to

748
00:47:47.320 --> 00:47:49.280
take it, okay, you have
to see the doctor. You have to

749
00:47:49.360 --> 00:47:50.440
be the vaccine. I said I
don' t know what he' s

750
00:47:50.440 --> 00:47:53.599
got. A little bit then clear
this, ma' am, because clear

751
00:47:54.360 --> 00:47:58.480
the head, because good short hec
couldn' t anymore with this guy,

752
00:47:58.719 --> 00:48:02.880
these t balls in plan disappears already
with this guy and with the situation let

753
00:48:02.920 --> 00:48:07.840
' s remember that Alfonso is in
his house jerking off without stopping, that

754
00:48:07.880 --> 00:48:09.639
is one thing that is that it
was not half normal in a man of

755
00:48:09.719 --> 00:48:15.159
fifty- fifty years and I say
I know what more absolutely unsustainable thing that

756
00:48:15.159 --> 00:48:16.079
why you say it. You jerk
it off because it explains, it explains

757
00:48:16.119 --> 00:48:19.119
why you say it. I think
it' s a good time to explain.

758
00:48:19.800 --> 00:48:22.559
It is important to understand that this
gentleman was in his house jerking off

759
00:48:22.760 --> 00:48:25.599
and sending emaist hat full to his
ex- wife, because then, when

760
00:48:25.639 --> 00:48:31.079
the police come in, they lie
doing the forensic inspection of Alfonso' s

761
00:48:31.159 --> 00:48:36.079
flat, puts the black light on
him and there is a wall that looks

762
00:48:36.199 --> 00:48:38.320
like a Jackson Polo painting with the
black light that this man is jerking off.

763
00:48:38.480 --> 00:48:42.280
You face the wall and then you
find some bermudas that you have used

764
00:48:42.320 --> 00:48:45.519
to clean for months, that the
bermudas are stiff, go alone, the

765
00:48:45.519 --> 00:48:51.719
bermudas horror that are petted from Semenda
Alfonso And to all this that you tell

766
00:48:51.719 --> 00:48:53.280
me, daughter, to do straws, because it seems to me faith no

767
00:48:53.400 --> 00:48:58.199
less look Jalá would have been done
more. You understand me, but on

768
00:48:58.320 --> 00:49:00.840
the computer r. S. D. Houdini, we' ll talk about

769
00:49:00.880 --> 00:49:04.679
the magic computer later. Now you
see, now you don' t see,

770
00:49:05.159 --> 00:49:10.119
magic erases. On the computer they
found half a million, the five,

771
00:49:10.400 --> 00:49:16.960
the zero, the zero, zero
zero of porn files again I hear

772
00:49:17.000 --> 00:49:20.960
you tell me, because Daughter,
it' s not getting to have files,

773
00:49:21.440 --> 00:49:24.199
well, neither, but half a
million already files, what kind,

774
00:49:24.519 --> 00:49:28.119
what kind of porn, because there
is everything. They didn' t find

775
00:49:28.199 --> 00:49:30.079
minors, that' s one thing
that was said in the press and it

776
00:49:30.119 --> 00:49:32.239
' s not true, because what
is a crime that I hear you tell

777
00:49:34.000 --> 00:49:36.400
me about the bottom daughter have porn. You' ve seen her with minors.

778
00:49:36.480 --> 00:49:37.320
Yeah, it' s a crime, but they didn' t find

779
00:49:37.320 --> 00:49:42.320
minors. What they found is Asian
girls. So there was a problem like

780
00:49:42.360 --> 00:49:45.239
seeing you have a Chinese girl.
You' re jerking off with Chinese girls,

781
00:49:45.440 --> 00:49:46.119
because it' s a little bit. It' s weird, hellish,

782
00:49:46.440 --> 00:49:47.639
is it weird? Yeah, yeah, he' s hellish? It

783
00:49:47.760 --> 00:49:51.280
' s weird, it' s
weird, but it' s true that

784
00:49:51.320 --> 00:49:52.320
there are guys with blonde girls who
jerk off with blonde girls. I don

785
00:49:52.360 --> 00:49:57.559
' t mean, I mean,
aside, he wasn' t putting that

786
00:49:57.559 --> 00:49:59.159
down in files one by one.
Obviously, I understand that there are bands

787
00:49:59.159 --> 00:50:00.119
that people come down for themselves,
of course, maybe in that pack,

788
00:50:00.239 --> 00:50:06.400
because there came a folder that was
Asian girls minor, they were not minor,

789
00:50:06.480 --> 00:50:08.199
but we all know what the appearance
of an 18- year- old

790
00:50:08.239 --> 00:50:14.360
Asian girl, is very infantilized.
That' s right. That' s

791
00:50:14.360 --> 00:50:16.480
true, that' s true.
It' s a crime, no,

792
00:50:16.480 --> 00:50:20.320
Your Honor, I' m not. A guy comes to me and he

793
00:50:20.360 --> 00:50:22.800
tells me that I get the ascetics
and I say that' s a reflex

794
00:50:22.840 --> 00:50:25.199
for me, heavy heavy, sorry
man, if you have a Chinese girl

795
00:50:25.280 --> 00:50:28.920
adopted even more I don' t
say. I ask what. That'

796
00:50:28.920 --> 00:50:32.400
s the end of it We have
a social look. It' s weird.

797
00:50:32.239 --> 00:50:35.880
But if to me racist king in
general, I get quite ik,

798
00:50:36.400 --> 00:50:39.000
I get a little ik, but
I' m not going to as horrible

799
00:50:39.000 --> 00:50:44.079
as other things, much more horrible. Obviously man. If I say it

800
00:50:44.119 --> 00:50:45.800
because it' s me, it' s just that you' re listening

801
00:50:45.800 --> 00:50:46.559
to me. I' ve gone
all the way. Besides, it'

802
00:50:47.079 --> 00:50:53.679
s just that I' m thinking
Aunty the podcast, this carles port of

803
00:50:53.679 --> 00:50:55.320
Sabadell' s pedophile. I don' t know, I don' t

804
00:50:55.320 --> 00:50:57.440
see it I recommend it. Juan
Sanguin, well, I put it on.

805
00:50:57.519 --> 00:50:59.440
I don' t recommend it either, because if all of mine Juan

806
00:50:59.480 --> 00:51:01.440
Sagui, I didn' t tell
him that you were wooing him and I

807
00:51:01.519 --> 00:51:07.119
said then that' s where I' m going and I heard him and

808
00:51:07.119 --> 00:51:07.920
Auntie, that is, the pedophiles
and way of looking. The form of

809
00:51:07.440 --> 00:51:12.000
the file is PDF, as Pringada
says, its view. The fact that

810
00:51:12.000 --> 00:51:15.800
they like children is such a strong
thing. So I do think there'

811
00:51:15.800 --> 00:51:20.119
s one more and fred flag between
a gentleman who has files by one of

812
00:51:20.199 --> 00:51:22.880
Chinese girls and has a Chinese girl
adopted. I' m sorry, but

813
00:51:22.960 --> 00:51:27.239
that' s the end of it
for me, yes, it' s

814
00:51:27.440 --> 00:51:28.639
about to end, which you have
the right to have your opinion on.

815
00:51:29.039 --> 00:51:30.960
It' s exactly the same as
the cabaret photos that we' ll get

816
00:51:31.039 --> 00:51:37.559
right, we' ll open telephone
lines to get opinions from those people.

817
00:51:38.360 --> 00:51:44.639
We' re not going to be
separating you from making life such that we

818
00:51:44.719 --> 00:51:45.119
' ve got charo overwhelmed alive with
the girl' s subject. You'

819
00:51:45.159 --> 00:51:49.159
re going to live, but they' re also giving it like a drawer

820
00:51:49.159 --> 00:51:51.079
that doesn' t close. I
mean, he' s also enjoying his

821
00:51:51.119 --> 00:51:53.280
houses and they' re giving it
as a drawer that doesn' t close

822
00:51:53.360 --> 00:51:55.199
until they stop giving it until he
arrives. Sir says look what she says

823
00:51:55.280 --> 00:51:59.519
look charo, I see you here
you' re very on faire, yes

824
00:51:59.719 --> 00:52:01.840
and you don' t look no, no sure no, out there,

825
00:52:01.840 --> 00:52:06.039
no good. This is controversial because
in the series they say he leaves it

826
00:52:06.559 --> 00:52:08.920
to her that I think it is. I think it' s in the

827
00:52:08.920 --> 00:52:10.880
suary and they say she' s
the one who leaves the relationship. I

828
00:52:10.960 --> 00:52:14.119
don' t think so. What
motive does she have to leave it to

829
00:52:14.119 --> 00:52:15.920
him? Yes, I was already
delighted at the same time none and,

830
00:52:15.199 --> 00:52:17.639
in fact, if you leave the
relationship, you don' t go to

831
00:52:17.719 --> 00:52:20.559
the hospital later with a psychiatric crisis
that you have to be admitted to.

832
00:52:20.960 --> 00:52:23.920
This is the temite. It'
s just that this is a heavy point,

833
00:52:24.519 --> 00:52:27.400
because the ball starts rolling. But
come on, the ball' s

834
00:52:27.440 --> 00:52:30.599
already starting to rock. By dis
we start clear and the gentleman in the

835
00:52:30.639 --> 00:52:34.159
drawer leaves it, leaves it.
He leaves it to her. We both

836
00:52:34.239 --> 00:52:37.800
think he saw the crate closed and
that' s where it ended up closed.

837
00:52:37.320 --> 00:52:43.639
We thought it was him who was
married and told Nena she was hooked

838
00:52:43.760 --> 00:52:45.719
up alive and said we' re
not going well, this way we'

839
00:52:45.760 --> 00:52:49.599
re going to cut a little bit
because I' m not going home with

840
00:52:49.639 --> 00:52:52.880
you We' re not going to
have an official relationship, we' re

841
00:52:52.960 --> 00:52:53.199
not going to see each other in
hotels And so far it might be that

842
00:52:53.199 --> 00:52:55.159
she was left on a plan.
Well, now I' m leaving you

843
00:52:55.239 --> 00:52:57.400
not because I don' t want
you to hide me. Well, I

844
00:52:57.480 --> 00:52:59.400
don' t know, I don' t see it. No. I

845
00:52:59.440 --> 00:53:02.280
don' t see this woman making
such a strong decision either. No.

846
00:53:02.119 --> 00:53:06.519
No, no. On the 26th
of June, Charo enters a sischiatric,

847
00:53:06.920 --> 00:53:12.000
a disordered depressive and remains there four
days and who we have next to and

848
00:53:12.039 --> 00:53:15.400
to the bed, in the four
days the vulture vulture Alfonso Basterra Arzo Sebasterra

849
00:53:15.840 --> 00:53:21.440
arrives on a white horse. Alfonso
Basterra Camporro is that he has a name

850
00:53:21.519 --> 00:53:25.320
I have taken care of. Alfonso
Basterra Camporro is a powerful name, because

851
00:53:25.960 --> 00:53:29.239
yes, Alfo is going to do
the psychiatric riding on a white horse with

852
00:53:29.320 --> 00:53:32.800
his knight armor. She grabs Rosario' s hand and says don' t

853
00:53:32.880 --> 00:53:36.320
worry about Rosario that I' m
going to be here, she' s

854
00:53:36.360 --> 00:53:37.519
an Antonio David of life, I' m not really going to take care

855
00:53:37.519 --> 00:53:42.039
of you. There' s no
problem. It' s all forgotten.

856
00:53:42.480 --> 00:53:45.119
The important thing is that you get
well that you worry because I' m

857
00:53:45.199 --> 00:53:49.039
gonna take care of you. We' re going to be together with Pa,

858
00:53:49.679 --> 00:53:52.960
Pa, Pam and the four days
she comes out who discharge her.

859
00:53:52.400 --> 00:54:00.159
There is an issue in the relationship
that if they were already or lose pending

860
00:54:00.159 --> 00:54:05.760
before, now it is even more. And well there' s the idea

861
00:54:06.000 --> 00:54:09.280
that there was some kind of pact. I don' t know anything or

862
00:54:09.280 --> 00:54:14.760
you. You can' t be
divorced if you split up and my life

863
00:54:14.800 --> 00:54:17.239
comes and then I go back to
this guy and let him in your life.

864
00:54:17.320 --> 00:54:22.239
So out, even though she goes
back to Mr East of Vedra,

865
00:54:22.719 --> 00:54:27.719
he may be out there, and
she, when they remind him of him

866
00:54:27.880 --> 00:54:30.840
at trial or that she is unfaithful
to him, she remembers and says no,

867
00:54:31.000 --> 00:54:35.760
gentlemen, that I am divorced.
Sure, really careful. Wait,

868
00:54:35.800 --> 00:54:38.320
wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,

869
00:54:38.519 --> 00:54:39.280
wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,

870
00:54:39.280 --> 00:54:39.280
wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,

871
00:54:39.280 --> 00:54:39.280
wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,

872
00:54:39.280 --> 00:54:44.880
wait, wait, wait. You
listen to me, you divorce and you,

873
00:54:45.599 --> 00:54:49.719
your husband, he' s coming
if you have a psychological crisis,

874
00:54:50.239 --> 00:54:52.199
to administer yourself, to throw away, medication, sorry. I mean,

875
00:54:52.320 --> 00:54:54.519
where did you see this aunt,
where did you see an ex- husband

876
00:54:54.559 --> 00:54:57.840
on top? You divorced him because
he was violent. You' ve made

877
00:54:57.840 --> 00:55:00.199
an express divorce and you' re
making your life. Or your queen'

878
00:55:00.280 --> 00:55:05.280
s pussy, but you give her
keys to your house and give her absolute

879
00:55:05.320 --> 00:55:08.639
level access to your administration, to
your medications. Well, then, we

880
00:55:08.679 --> 00:55:12.159
have to go through this and we
have that on the fourth of July,

881
00:55:12.480 --> 00:55:15.719
which is that ten days later,
on the fourth of July, at night,

882
00:55:16.320 --> 00:55:20.119
they are clear and asuntas is in
bed and Charo is on the floor

883
00:55:20.199 --> 00:55:23.000
and suddenly hears those three screams and
enters the Asunta room and there is an

884
00:55:23.039 --> 00:55:27.760
intruder. There' s a gentleman
in the business room. I' ve

885
00:55:28.239 --> 00:55:30.679
never read it or he' s
wanted it. I' ve been searching

886
00:55:30.679 --> 00:55:32.639
for two days, I haven'
t found a physical description of this gentleman.

887
00:55:34.440 --> 00:55:37.920
Sixty, yes, well, what
while throwing out the middle port,

888
00:55:37.159 --> 00:55:40.039
one, thirty, then this lady
then what do I know. That seemed

889
00:55:40.079 --> 00:55:44.880
very big to him that I have
a theory. I have a big,

890
00:55:44.960 --> 00:55:46.440
big theory and I have another one, but it' s not theory.

891
00:55:46.480 --> 00:55:49.599
But it' s spinning. But, well, just finish, just explain

892
00:55:49.639 --> 00:55:52.039
the hino. I have it very
clear. Listen to me Look. In

893
00:55:52.079 --> 00:55:55.440
the business room was the safe,
exactly, which is a very normal thing,

894
00:55:55.639 --> 00:55:59.039
put the safe in the tubuja room
or put your daughter in the tin

895
00:55:59.079 --> 00:56:01.159
room to strong. But it was
because it was the father' s office.

896
00:56:01.280 --> 00:56:07.039
Well, anyway, there was seventy
thousand euros in cash in that safe

897
00:56:07.639 --> 00:56:12.800
Sorry. Who knew there was money
in that safe and who knows where that

898
00:56:12.800 --> 00:56:16.800
safe is Alfane Basterra and who enters
the aria room is last night. Allegedly

899
00:56:16.880 --> 00:56:21.119
I don' t know. I' m going to say it right now,

900
00:56:21.320 --> 00:56:22.840
Alfno Basterra enters the pit. He
basters for the money, but it

901
00:56:22.880 --> 00:56:25.719
' s the worst thing for him. It should be noted that weeks before

902
00:56:25.760 --> 00:56:30.280
they had gone into the house to
steal according to Rosario and had stolen jewels

903
00:56:30.280 --> 00:56:34.880
and good. And it has to
be said also that she said that she

904
00:56:34.920 --> 00:56:39.760
and Asunta were always like very clueless
and they left the keys you' re

905
00:56:39.840 --> 00:56:45.320
out, that they had a posttit
that the postile comes out prominently look at

906
00:56:45.360 --> 00:56:47.360
is that this is like Michael Petersen
in the end, if you' re

907
00:56:47.360 --> 00:56:49.800
familiar with the case. One of
the things they don' t count on

908
00:56:49.800 --> 00:56:53.039
in the Netflix series at all,
because the Netflix series was in conjunction with

909
00:56:53.039 --> 00:56:55.599
Michael Piterson. The cradle of the
things that don' t count is that

910
00:56:55.679 --> 00:57:00.199
Mircrepitesn had a debt of$ 100, 000 and that Katherine had just been

911
00:57:00.199 --> 00:57:02.119
thrown out of work. And if
Cathily got divorced from him, he went

912
00:57:02.159 --> 00:57:06.599
to jail for bankruptcy because he didn' t have the money to face the

913
00:57:06.599 --> 00:57:09.440
debts. We' re talking about
Alfonso running out of the money his aunt

914
00:57:09.440 --> 00:57:14.679
had left to Bilbao. I knew
there was money in that safe. I

915
00:57:14.719 --> 00:57:16.519
knew I could come in, but
what' s up, what' s

916
00:57:16.519 --> 00:57:19.159
up? That' s what I
wasn' t counting on. Then there

917
00:57:19.239 --> 00:57:23.159
is a violent episode in which Charo
manages to throw out. Of course let

918
00:57:23.159 --> 00:57:25.800
' s remember that it literally measured
one forty, that is, a very

919
00:57:25.840 --> 00:57:30.960
small person, has weighed forty-
two kilos, forty- five a thing

920
00:57:30.159 --> 00:57:36.280
and Charo, mysteriously gathers the force
as Hulk and manages to throw the mysterious

921
00:57:36.320 --> 00:57:37.559
jumper, mysterious in quotation marks,
because he was Alfonso Basterra. Allegedly I

922
00:57:37.679 --> 00:57:44.119
don' t know it can be
getting him kicked out and in the end

923
00:57:44.159 --> 00:57:45.000
there' s nothing left until the
girl. A few weeks later a friend

924
00:57:45.079 --> 00:57:47.719
tells her in the car and the
mother hears it for the car calls her

925
00:57:47.719 --> 00:57:51.000
charo and tells her what. The
dune what happened here, s guy,

926
00:57:51.199 --> 00:57:52.880
and the other one says no.
I just said. It' s not

927
00:57:52.920 --> 00:57:54.599
like he' s been reported.
No, I didn' t go to

928
00:57:54.599 --> 00:57:55.719
the police. But leave right now. If I don' t leave.

929
00:57:55.800 --> 00:57:59.840
I tell the friend that the friend
declares at the trial literally says words as

930
00:58:00.119 --> 00:58:02.440
you don' t go I'
m going to report it and she says

931
00:58:02.440 --> 00:58:05.800
yes. He says it' s
okay and air and he doesn' t

932
00:58:05.880 --> 00:58:07.639
go and tell him that he never
goes. She doesn' t go and

933
00:58:07.679 --> 00:58:10.280
talk to the police, but she
tells them it' s okay I go

934
00:58:10.360 --> 00:58:15.239
to the hospital to do some injuries
and I come and formalize the nuncia and

935
00:58:15.239 --> 00:58:15.960
she didn' t come to your
house. He has not, therefore,

936
00:58:15.000 --> 00:58:16.840
gone to the Commission. I don' t either. And it has to

937
00:58:16.840 --> 00:58:22.400
be said that the next day,
a photo is taken and there are marks

938
00:58:22.400 --> 00:58:25.119
on marks on her neck because they
had tried to attack her. Charo porto

939
00:58:25.239 --> 00:58:29.960
always like he missed this incident in
some things like he didn' t care

940
00:58:29.960 --> 00:58:31.800
at all. Another reason why I
think he knew who was an assailant and

941
00:58:32.559 --> 00:58:37.360
how he never gave him the level
importance that he might have used it as

942
00:58:37.400 --> 00:58:40.719
an alibi for his daughter' s
murder. And he didn' t even

943
00:58:40.760 --> 00:58:44.519
have the lights to do that.
You know what, it could have been

944
00:58:44.559 --> 00:58:45.559
the jumpers. He didn' t
give that to the police. In the

945
00:58:45.639 --> 00:58:50.960
beginning they hid it. That yes, yes, the police told it is

946
00:58:50.960 --> 00:58:54.079
when they find out what' s
going on, then they tell him not

947
00:58:54.079 --> 00:58:57.679
to hear, ma' am that
they have told us what happened this and

948
00:58:58.519 --> 00:59:04.079
it does water, yes, yes, it' s not that it'

949
00:59:02.880 --> 00:59:07.320
s not, like you know how
three are and that this incident, that

950
00:59:07.320 --> 00:59:12.599
is, it was allegedly Alfonso who
made the decision for himself without informing Charo

951
00:59:13.119 --> 00:59:15.159
and that she already imagined who it
is or that she was warned. No,

952
00:59:15.239 --> 00:59:17.519
she didn' t know, she
didn' t know. No.

953
00:59:19.199 --> 00:59:22.119
She saw him there and said Hostia
is coming for the pasta. Sure.

954
00:59:22.239 --> 00:59:24.239
And there' s one thing going
on, too. Now I' m

955
00:59:24.280 --> 00:59:30.920
falling that surely if it was him, presumably of course, he knew that

956
00:59:31.039 --> 00:59:36.679
this woman would take the noracepans as
if they were pipes and would be in

957
00:59:36.679 --> 00:59:37.639
salad, she would be surrendered alive
in bed, that is. It says

958
00:59:37.639 --> 00:59:38.960
well, I enter the house and
I don' t make noise open with

959
00:59:39.000 --> 00:59:42.280
the keys, because these leave the
keys or I have keys to the house.

960
00:59:42.320 --> 00:59:45.400
Even the car had her and she
doesn' t find out, of

961
00:59:45.440 --> 00:59:46.079
course, why do we remind her
that the door wasn' t forced?

962
00:59:46.159 --> 00:59:50.679
Wasn' t it a crash because
the door wasn' t forced? This

963
00:59:50.719 --> 00:59:52.480
happens on the fourth of July.
What happens on the 5th of July.

964
00:59:52.960 --> 00:59:58.559
Where Alfonso Lasterra goes. Ah this, Tao goes to the training, to

965
00:59:58.639 --> 01:00:05.519
buy five Orfidal tablet bills, fifty
to see you can buy fifty because you

966
01:00:05.559 --> 01:00:07.599
say hoste half go on vacation,
to see what. Maybe I know what.

967
01:00:07.079 --> 01:00:10.039
I think it' s weird that
I gave you so much of a

968
01:00:10.079 --> 01:00:14.360
stroke. I mean, that'
s enough to look at the deformacetics a

969
01:00:14.440 --> 01:00:17.440
little bit too good. And if
it' s here when you' re

970
01:00:17.480 --> 01:00:22.599
recited a box, not every man, the box is called Chao no more,

971
01:00:22.679 --> 01:00:27.280
but the most until next month.
Sure. Of course, let'

972
01:00:27.320 --> 01:00:30.480
s remember that Alfonso Basterra had him
banned from some pharmacies in Santiago, that

973
01:00:30.559 --> 01:00:35.360
is to say, this pharmacy that
sold him to be a friend of the

974
01:00:35.519 --> 01:00:37.440
family because he had had friendship with
the parents of charo so I don'

975
01:00:37.519 --> 01:00:40.760
t know what and it was the
one that provided the camel. In fact,

976
01:00:42.199 --> 01:00:45.800
there' s a moment that counts. I don' t know who

977
01:00:45.840 --> 01:00:51.760
your mother, your mother, buys
some white powder from a lady at the

978
01:00:51.800 --> 01:00:53.599
portal of your case, the lady
at the portal of your house, so

979
01:00:54.039 --> 01:00:58.599
what' s this? Cinema Kinky
you know something like that, that is,

980
01:00:59.440 --> 01:01:05.519
if it' s strong as well, the 9th of July asunta is

981
01:01:05.599 --> 01:01:07.320
the first report that we have of
that astuned and dizzy music class. It

982
01:01:07.440 --> 01:01:10.079
doesn' t give rise to a
ball. The girl was an absolutely consummated

983
01:01:10.119 --> 01:01:16.519
violinist, who read her eyes and
could play you a score from the beginning

984
01:01:17.039 --> 01:01:20.760
because let us remember that it is
true that they were high abilities. As

985
01:01:21.079 --> 01:01:24.559
s says we had a good memory. I had a very good violinist.

986
01:01:25.119 --> 01:01:29.320
And the teacher realizes that the girl
is not only screwing up with a basic

987
01:01:29.320 --> 01:01:31.920
warm- up exercise, but she
puts a new one to see if they

988
01:01:31.960 --> 01:01:37.280
can advance a little bit and the
girl can' t with the new exercise

989
01:01:37.400 --> 01:01:40.159
and then the next one of music. This is told to the father and

990
01:01:40.159 --> 01:01:44.599
the father says no if he'
s a little squeaky, because we'

991
01:01:44.679 --> 01:01:47.559
ve given some antistaminesrius this is checked
later on in the exstruction. If the

992
01:01:47.599 --> 01:01:52.039
girl had some kind of energy,
she had taken antistamines and medically there was

993
01:01:52.119 --> 01:01:55.360
no record that the girl was logically
nothing medically that the parents decided to buy

994
01:01:55.400 --> 01:01:58.719
her taminic antis and give them to
her, as it is another story.

995
01:01:58.760 --> 01:02:02.239
But it is quite enlightening that on
July 5 Alfonso Vasterra completes fifty birthdays of

996
01:02:02.280 --> 01:02:06.159
the Fidal and on July 9 in
the girl is lost, as they said

997
01:02:06.239 --> 01:02:09.840
in the trial. Exactly, well, and this repeats the one of July

998
01:02:10.599 --> 01:02:16.840
to the purchase it is proven that
Alfonso makes another purchase of twenty- five

999
01:02:16.880 --> 01:02:22.199
tablets that time University that we remember
that they were not for him, that

1000
01:02:22.239 --> 01:02:24.280
they are supposed to be for that, they are for the woman, that

1001
01:02:24.320 --> 01:02:29.519
it is the woman that I hope
it who needs in total in twelve days,

1002
01:02:29.679 --> 01:02:32.079
seventy- five tablets of Osfidal in
a matter of twelve days. Listen

1003
01:02:32.079 --> 01:02:36.840
to me, because of these they
had already agreed with the godmother that the

1004
01:02:36.840 --> 01:02:37.880
child was going to leave. It' s just that this is very strong.

1005
01:02:37.079 --> 01:02:39.239
I' m sorry about this.
Auntie, I' m dying.

1006
01:02:39.559 --> 01:02:44.119
She started between her summer vacation and
the girl was going away with the godmother

1007
01:02:44.159 --> 01:02:47.360
all summer and then she left with
the cleaning lady, with the maid she

1008
01:02:47.360 --> 01:02:51.239
had at home charo she left with
her for two weeks, that is,

1009
01:02:51.360 --> 01:02:54.599
the girl that summer did not see
her parents anything since the incident. Last

1010
01:02:54.719 --> 01:02:59.679
time he gets dizzy again in the
music class is July 23rd. Twenty-

1011
01:02:59.840 --> 01:03:01.840
one t s July, the same
as the holiday, does not see the

1012
01:03:02.239 --> 01:03:06.199
parents to that means the parents do
not go or see anything to the place

1013
01:03:06.199 --> 01:03:07.760
where it was, which was near
Santiago, could have gone, was on

1014
01:03:07.760 --> 01:03:09.880
the beach, could have gone.
It wasn' t a single one.

1015
01:03:09.960 --> 01:03:15.000
I see you even had her.
Rosario had a flat above where the godmother

1016
01:03:15.000 --> 01:03:19.079
Yes, yes, and not only
that, but she was supposed to be

1017
01:03:19.079 --> 01:03:21.400
the saint of Asunta, which is
the 15th of August. By the assumption

1018
01:03:21.880 --> 01:03:24.320
they were not either, i e, they were nothing, and they say

1019
01:03:24.320 --> 01:03:28.960
good. Rosario says that there were
no conditions, that they called her three

1020
01:03:29.000 --> 01:03:30.760
times a day, that they talked
to her every day and that she,

1021
01:03:30.800 --> 01:03:35.920
then, that she was fatal and
that they were not conditions to remember that

1022
01:03:35.960 --> 01:03:38.880
from that already clear she had resumed
the relationship with the adopted entrepreneur. And

1023
01:03:38.960 --> 01:03:45.000
it' s also important to say
that since Charo resumed the relationship, if

1024
01:03:45.119 --> 01:03:46.840
it happened to the girl before,
much more happened. I mean, there

1025
01:03:46.920 --> 01:03:51.719
' s whatsapps of good, so
clear if they were on TV and such

1026
01:03:51.760 --> 01:03:55.039
crossovers of whatsapps matter with Asunta'
s mother. How, demanding your attention.

1027
01:03:55.079 --> 01:03:58.199
You' re coming, aren'
t you? Listen answer me the

1028
01:03:58.239 --> 01:04:01.079
prayer passing, that is, it' s super passive aggressive with her like

1029
01:04:01.079 --> 01:04:05.480
hear what is important what she wants
and other whatsapps with the gifted entrepreneur where

1030
01:04:05.519 --> 01:04:09.519
she calls her daughter the skin,
the palm that you can do it with

1031
01:04:09.519 --> 01:04:12.320
grace, you can hit it,
but you do it funny with someone of

1032
01:04:12.480 --> 01:04:15.800
fame, not me, for example, with a guy that I' m

1033
01:04:15.800 --> 01:04:17.519
having my boyfriend. I don'
t mean my daughter like the fur you

1034
01:04:17.519 --> 01:04:20.119
know well, I don' t
know maybe. It doesn' t mean

1035
01:04:20.159 --> 01:04:25.000
anything that then the daughter appears dead
to me. Indeed, the dotted line.

1036
01:04:26.440 --> 01:04:30.280
But one more dot, for the
most part, I' m going

1037
01:04:30.280 --> 01:04:31.880
to have a toxicological reminder. I' m going to explain to you that

1038
01:04:31.880 --> 01:04:35.280
he makes bread comes into action within
thirty sixty minutes of having ingested it.

1039
01:04:38.039 --> 01:04:41.079
I' ll also explain that if
you ingest repeating one, no. But

1040
01:04:41.119 --> 01:04:44.960
if you repeatedly ingest azpines, which
is what this drug is, that is

1041
01:04:44.960 --> 01:04:48.960
obvious, that is, the maximum
there is. This can become a permanent

1042
01:04:48.960 --> 01:04:53.679
part of your body with things like
nails or hair. This is important.

1043
01:04:54.480 --> 01:04:58.920
So, if the girl had repeated
gestations during this we' re going to

1044
01:04:59.039 --> 01:05:01.039
say second trimester of the year,
fourth, thirteen trimester of the year,

1045
01:05:01.440 --> 01:05:03.559
daughter, you' re repeated deonzo
of pinas ago in her hair. That

1046
01:05:03.599 --> 01:05:09.840
would be branded. Then we have
to spend the summer and what happens the

1047
01:05:09.840 --> 01:05:15.239
summer. He reassumes Santiago with his
parents and on 16 September Alfonso buys fifty

1048
01:05:15.280 --> 01:05:18.840
tablets of or Fidal. I mean, we' re talking about that in

1049
01:05:19.400 --> 01:05:25.400
a matter of eight weeks, I
had bought a total of one hundred and

1050
01:05:25.400 --> 01:05:26.880
twenty- five tablets of orcidal.
I mean, she' s strong,

1051
01:05:26.920 --> 01:05:30.360
she' s an intern we repeat. It seems so heavy to me that

1052
01:05:30.400 --> 01:05:34.920
a gentleman arrives at a pharmacy and
keep in mind or quiet rent aunt you

1053
01:05:35.000 --> 01:05:40.079
put me fourth and half of or
end sorry and that soup aunt that the

1054
01:05:40.159 --> 01:05:42.679
pharmacies do not beat the joint.
It seems to me, yes, sir,

1055
01:05:42.840 --> 01:05:44.400
that I was taking him so it
wasn' t even for him.

1056
01:05:44.599 --> 01:05:45.800
Here. That can' t be
done. It can' t be done

1057
01:05:45.800 --> 01:05:48.920
here. This one' s being
watched out. Let' s go,

1058
01:05:49.159 --> 01:05:53.239
that' s a formation. You
can' t issue one hundred and twenty

1059
01:05:53.360 --> 01:05:56.559
- five tablets of pinas days in
eight weeks, because we' re going

1060
01:05:56.559 --> 01:05:58.079
to skip all the flags. Well, we' re talking about two thousand

1061
01:05:58.960 --> 01:06:03.079
thirteen, but weird isn' t
eight hundred thirteen either, and we'

1062
01:06:03.079 --> 01:06:09.079
re on September 17. It'
s a super important date, important because,

1063
01:06:09.320 --> 01:06:14.840
as the prosecution said at the trial, for them this day became good.

1064
01:06:14.880 --> 01:06:16.000
I don' t know You think
it' s proof. I think

1065
01:06:16.039 --> 01:06:18.400
it was a look- see.
Check it out. It was a look

1066
01:06:18.400 --> 01:06:21.840
to see, yes, and it
was a look to see that if I

1067
01:06:21.880 --> 01:06:26.159
had gone out, for if not
maybe, I got it. But since

1068
01:06:26.199 --> 01:06:28.599
he didn' t get it,
he said well, because another day nothing

1069
01:06:28.599 --> 01:06:31.039
happens. Let' s see we' ve already proved well what happens on

1070
01:06:31.039 --> 01:06:34.639
17 September. This day he had
to be with his father, Alfonso.

1071
01:06:36.519 --> 01:06:41.920
Then this day the alarm of the
house of Montoutto, which is the big

1072
01:06:42.239 --> 01:06:49.480
family house that the portos have.
It is disconnected from 7: 30 p

1073
01:06:49.639 --> 01:06:56.480
m to 22: 00 p m. How long is it going is seven

1074
01:06:56.599 --> 01:06:58.719
eight, a lot of hours,
because three hours is peak. No.

1075
01:07:00.840 --> 01:07:03.119
In one of the statements he makes
before the judge, Alfonso says that that

1076
01:07:03.159 --> 01:07:08.000
day he was with the girl changing, absorbing moisture in the house. It

1077
01:07:08.039 --> 01:07:11.159
was a house that was closed,
a country house. So every x time,

1078
01:07:11.239 --> 01:07:15.400
they went and they put those little
cacharritos to absolve the moisture. In

1079
01:07:15.480 --> 01:07:19.119
one of his statements, Rosario also
talks about that day, because the judge

1080
01:07:19.199 --> 01:07:24.559
asks him and also says that that
day, because they were Alfonso and the

1081
01:07:24.559 --> 01:07:30.599
girl went to change, absorbed moisture. I mean, it' s so

1082
01:07:30.679 --> 01:07:32.119
normal, it' s so normal, not what happens. In the statement

1083
01:07:32.159 --> 01:07:38.559
to Rosario, our judge friend to
Tain, he asks if that day he

1084
01:07:38.639 --> 01:07:42.639
left the keys to Montouto Alfonso'
s house, because there was only one

1085
01:07:42.679 --> 01:07:45.559
copy, because there was only one
copy, and this she had told him,

1086
01:07:45.679 --> 01:07:46.880
that is, she says, because
I don' t know, I

1087
01:07:46.880 --> 01:07:49.079
don' t remember. Then Dale
tells him, but I mean, you

1088
01:07:49.320 --> 01:07:51.480
remember how many sets of keys.
It says there, because I don'

1089
01:07:51.559 --> 01:07:55.760
t know, because I have a
lot of things done, things you say.

1090
01:07:55.840 --> 01:07:57.960
Well, brother, yeah, look, you got to get it.

1091
01:07:58.000 --> 01:08:00.480
Now fatal, what do you ask
me. I don' t know how

1092
01:08:00.599 --> 01:08:01.079
many jos de keys are the father' s key sets. And it'

1093
01:08:01.119 --> 01:08:05.159
s all right that, as you
say, I was very cuckoo to tell

1094
01:08:05.239 --> 01:08:09.199
her there was only one set of
keys, because you yourself told me,

1095
01:08:09.840 --> 01:08:11.519
that is, during one of the
records in the house. Remember and give

1096
01:08:11.519 --> 01:08:15.920
a little context at this time that
Judge Tin has said it on several occasions.

1097
01:08:17.479 --> 01:08:20.119
Well, he hasn' t said
it in several, and then in

1098
01:08:20.159 --> 01:08:24.760
the series. I think they drop
it too. Judge Times knows things about

1099
01:08:24.760 --> 01:08:28.279
Alfonso that he can' t tell. Or, of course, then,

1100
01:08:28.399 --> 01:08:30.039
it' s not that I have
a mania, it' s that there

1101
01:08:30.039 --> 01:08:32.600
are things that they can' t
prove because they can' t bring in

1102
01:08:32.600 --> 01:08:35.960
judgment, because maybe they' re
not relevant, or maybe they' re

1103
01:08:36.000 --> 01:08:38.279
things that they know because they'
re not for reasons you shouldn' t

1104
01:08:38.279 --> 01:08:43.479
know. But I think part of
the inquina and pre of the kind of

1105
01:08:43.560 --> 01:08:45.720
ring Yeah, that kind of mania
that you see them having in this one

1106
01:08:45.800 --> 01:08:50.680
is because Judge Time knows things about
basterra. I don' t know anything

1107
01:08:50.720 --> 01:08:57.560
that makes you think there' s
more to it than we remember that when

1108
01:08:57.600 --> 01:09:00.359
you go to Montt' s house, the judge in the charo charo investigation

1109
01:09:01.039 --> 01:09:04.319
gives you a hug. When they
enter because they know each other, they

1110
01:09:04.399 --> 01:09:09.079
know each other from the legal era, because they had exercised together, they

1111
01:09:09.079 --> 01:09:12.720
were of the same age and I
think the Huet Taine had worked a lot

1112
01:09:12.720 --> 01:09:14.720
with his father, with Francisco Porto. So, well, that' s

1113
01:09:14.800 --> 01:09:17.239
to make a little happy, this
Rosario connection, with the judge, with

1114
01:09:17.399 --> 01:09:23.000
the people of Santiago' s legal
system. It seems to me that it

1115
01:09:23.159 --> 01:09:30.960
is important for the whole subject,
this slug of how they did it and

1116
01:09:30.960 --> 01:09:35.359
good that it basically already felt protected
and took away totally. A little surprise

1117
01:09:35.359 --> 01:09:39.159
came. Yeah, yeah, but
good. We return to 17 September.

1118
01:09:39.720 --> 01:09:43.760
We got that alarm off. We
have the key set theme, which is

1119
01:09:43.800 --> 01:09:47.359
not known whether or not you are
aware of it. He has We know

1120
01:09:47.439 --> 01:09:54.199
that the girl was with alfone but
that it turns out that then, at

1121
01:09:54.319 --> 01:09:57.720
the trial, when Alfonso is asked
for this day, which is September 17,

1122
01:09:57.880 --> 01:10:00.640
with the subject of moisture absorbs,
he says that that day was not.

1123
01:10:00.680 --> 01:10:02.920
It' s not when they went
to change the absorbs and moistures,

1124
01:10:03.079 --> 01:10:08.600
which were on Friday the thirteenth,
that is, in the statements before the

1125
01:10:08.680 --> 01:10:11.079
trial, he says that 17 September
he' s going to drop them means

1126
01:10:11.079 --> 01:10:12.760
with astute. Then, at the
trial, it turns out no, which

1127
01:10:12.760 --> 01:10:15.560
is that they had been the previous
Friday, which remembers very well, because

1128
01:10:15.640 --> 01:10:18.520
before they had gone to pass the
ITV with matter, which is one thing

1129
01:10:18.520 --> 01:10:21.640
that she liked very much, because
they had fun, because well she says

1130
01:10:21.640 --> 01:10:24.560
they made bets. We' ll
pass it or we won' t pass

1131
01:10:24.560 --> 01:10:27.840
it. But what happens virgemia,
because the next day, which was Wednesday,

1132
01:10:28.239 --> 01:10:32.319
September 18, the girl disappears.
They didn' t take care of

1133
01:10:32.319 --> 01:10:35.800
them at school where they are.
Nothing is known exactly and Rosario makes her

1134
01:10:35.800 --> 01:10:40.079
a role for school as an excuse
for having a fever. So I don

1135
01:10:40.119 --> 01:10:43.199
' t know what, but then
Rosario herself says it wasn' t that

1136
01:10:43.279 --> 01:10:45.279
it was a lie, but the
girl was embarrassed to say she was wrong.

1137
01:10:45.399 --> 01:10:47.520
But it' s like then he' s not ashamed to say he

1138
01:10:47.520 --> 01:10:49.600
has a fever. Of course it
happens, which is that the girl was

1139
01:10:49.640 --> 01:10:56.159
in a deep coma because she had
cracked twenty- five or finals presumably and

1140
01:10:56.199 --> 01:10:59.359
that' s the problem to change
them into sorcerers. Of course it is.

1141
01:10:59.479 --> 01:11:01.520
It disappears, so it' s
at least two days. Don'

1142
01:11:01.560 --> 01:11:04.760
t go back to the queue,
but 19 until the 20th, 19 until

1143
01:11:04.840 --> 01:11:12.279
the 19th Thursday and we reach the
21st of September, that is, we

1144
01:11:12.760 --> 01:11:15.359
have this episode three days. Before, four days before 17 September, the

1145
01:11:15.680 --> 01:11:17.000
six- core alarm is four hours
away. We don' t know very

1146
01:11:17.039 --> 01:11:18.800
well what they do there for four
hours, because it absorbs them. That

1147
01:11:19.199 --> 01:11:24.159
' ll change in three minutes.
I don' t know what he said

1148
01:11:24.159 --> 01:11:25.920
went missing for two days at school
and he arrives on the 21st of September.

1149
01:11:26.039 --> 01:11:31.000
Let us remember that the body of
asunta is located on the forest track

1150
01:11:31.079 --> 01:11:33.560
the dawn of SEE day from twenty- one to twenty- two. Of

1151
01:11:33.840 --> 01:11:39.399
course, then, well, what
happens that day is that the girl always

1152
01:11:39.439 --> 01:11:44.800
had activities. On Saturdays, I
had Chinese, I had tea, I

1153
01:11:44.800 --> 01:11:47.000
kept several things. Then that morning
the girl I think she' s going

1154
01:11:47.039 --> 01:11:50.359
to do activities. Just like and
then there' s how the girl was

1155
01:11:50.399 --> 01:11:51.760
like coming and going from the father' s and mother' s house.

1156
01:11:53.600 --> 01:11:56.399
Quite a while. Then first he
went to the mother' s house before

1157
01:11:56.399 --> 01:11:59.560
eating to finish the homework of doing
some things. Then the father is going

1158
01:11:59.560 --> 01:12:02.640
to marry, see the Simpsons and
stay at the father' s house because

1159
01:12:02.640 --> 01:12:08.960
the father makes scrambled chambillons, which
is also such a detail of the case,

1160
01:12:09.439 --> 01:12:12.439
because then they find them almost undigested
in the girl' s stomach,

1161
01:12:13.399 --> 01:12:16.479
eat all three, in the house
of Alfonso Basterra throw Alfonso and the girl,

1162
01:12:17.159 --> 01:12:21.640
and then there is a lot in
movement during that day of the three,

1163
01:12:21.760 --> 01:12:25.800
like going and coming Alfonso. Not
so much, Alfonso is stace put

1164
01:12:26.119 --> 01:12:29.760
which is one thing that seems very
enlightening to me that he is always at

1165
01:12:29.800 --> 01:12:32.119
home, but there is a moment
that comes out that he is seen in

1166
01:12:32.199 --> 01:12:35.600
the Chamber as the good ones is
that it is very messy, but in

1167
01:12:35.680 --> 01:12:39.279
order not to make the mess to
people, the girl like that goes and

1168
01:12:39.279 --> 01:12:41.800
comes from one house to the other. And the fact is, what is

1169
01:12:41.840 --> 01:12:46.439
known is that at a certain hour
charo leaves the house. What she tells

1170
01:12:46.520 --> 01:12:49.000
the judge is that the intention was
to go for a few swimsuits for the

1171
01:12:49.079 --> 01:12:55.520
girl. From the moment she leaves
the house until she takes the car,

1172
01:12:56.239 --> 01:12:58.880
it' s half an hour ago
that maybe she went to the bakery and

1173
01:12:58.960 --> 01:13:00.800
hooked up with the baker. I
don' t know, you know,

1174
01:13:00.239 --> 01:13:02.039
but it' s funny that if
you' re going to do one thing

1175
01:13:02.039 --> 01:13:04.520
and you' re going to take
the car, late half an hour the

1176
01:13:04.600 --> 01:13:04.720
park and I wasn' t in
the house, I was in another.

1177
01:13:05.000 --> 01:13:09.640
Sure, the car doesn' t
have a yes, but it was like

1178
01:13:09.640 --> 01:13:14.199
a couple of minutes walk was not
the parking lot on the property. Then

1179
01:13:14.319 --> 01:13:17.760
she goes after the car and all
of a sudden well, because what she

1180
01:13:17.840 --> 01:13:20.840
says is that no one goes away
a lot, takes the swimsuits and turns

1181
01:13:20.880 --> 01:13:25.000
and is about three hours in total
and that when she comes back the girl

1182
01:13:25.039 --> 01:13:27.000
is gone and that' s why
she puts the complaint in police station.

1183
01:13:28.000 --> 01:13:30.479
That' s the version we have
until about September 27th, which is when

1184
01:13:30.840 --> 01:13:33.680
you see the recording of the cameras, because the jet there is one of

1185
01:13:33.680 --> 01:13:36.560
the things that you ask the police. Well, the Civil Guard is to

1186
01:13:36.680 --> 01:13:41.319
go and check out absolutely all the
cameras in Santiago, which may be on

1187
01:13:41.359 --> 01:13:45.920
the road between Charo Poroto' s
house and Montoutto to see if they see

1188
01:13:45.960 --> 01:13:49.279
anything and they see in a gas
station' s camera they see that there

1189
01:13:49.359 --> 01:13:54.800
is a presence that is also very
controversial, because there are people who say

1190
01:13:54.840 --> 01:13:57.359
that they don' t see it
clearly they don' t see it,

1191
01:13:57.600 --> 01:14:00.640
it' s true, but I
do see it, that is, because

1192
01:14:00.720 --> 01:14:00.840
if in that seat it was empty
it would be brown or black, there

1193
01:14:00.840 --> 01:14:03.399
would be nothing. You see the
white shirt, it' s not what

1194
01:14:03.399 --> 01:14:06.319
I think you call it a little
white dot, which can be either the

1195
01:14:06.319 --> 01:14:09.720
face, or it can be the
shirt, that is, it does look

1196
01:14:09.720 --> 01:14:12.680
like a luminoside. There in the
co- pilot' s seat, then

1197
01:14:13.119 --> 01:14:15.239
ech aeroporto, like he suddenly remembers
that it' s true that the girl

1198
01:14:15.279 --> 01:14:18.680
changed her mind that she said she
wanted to come. The theory that you

1199
01:14:18.800 --> 01:14:21.960
see the movie, that you ride. Rather said is that it is true

1200
01:14:23.000 --> 01:14:25.720
that she takes her, but then
she brings her back and lets her not

1201
01:14:25.720 --> 01:14:28.840
follow, that the girl tells her
yes, that she wants to go with

1202
01:14:29.039 --> 01:14:31.520
her, that she gets in the
car, she gets to a lot to

1203
01:14:31.520 --> 01:14:33.479
that before entering the house. The
girl says no, that she doesn'

1204
01:14:33.479 --> 01:14:38.960
t want to go in, that
she goes back to Santiago, that leaves

1205
01:14:38.960 --> 01:14:40.680
her on the street. He'
s turning around. He turns around anyway

1206
01:14:40.840 --> 01:14:45.520
and you say you suck how much
there' s a half hour drive to

1207
01:14:45.600 --> 01:14:48.079
the house. Yeah, you get
half an hour and you get to the

1208
01:14:48.199 --> 01:14:49.439
door, he says he doesn'
t want to go. Then the ball

1209
01:14:49.600 --> 01:14:53.399
won' t tell him. Go
up three minutes and I' ll take

1210
01:14:53.399 --> 01:14:56.680
four swimsuits, which takes literally three
and a half seconds. It' s

1211
01:14:56.680 --> 01:14:59.159
weird. It doesn' t make
any sense. Indeed, the girl is

1212
01:14:59.199 --> 01:15:01.920
seen in the Chamber of Banco Santander, which they have there between the two

1213
01:15:01.960 --> 01:15:04.279
houses. Now girl, during that
day. It' s true that you

1214
01:15:04.359 --> 01:15:08.560
see her coming and going several times, because me but at five o'

1215
01:15:09.039 --> 01:15:12.680
clock early, at five o'
clock exactly. In this impasse the intake

1216
01:15:12.680 --> 01:15:19.399
of lorecepans has to be produced.
Let' s remember it was 27 grams

1217
01:15:19.399 --> 01:15:23.119
on top of 27 grams. You
can' t take them without realizing it,

1218
01:15:23.439 --> 01:15:27.880
I mean, you can' t
sneak in twenty- three orifice,

1219
01:15:28.560 --> 01:15:30.479
a champagne booster. Besides, you
say it was a robot of salt champagne

1220
01:15:30.560 --> 01:15:34.640
in the Barahan series in a chapter
also very controversial, in which they make

1221
01:15:34.640 --> 01:15:39.520
two versions of what could have happened, one more orchestrated by Charo and a

1222
01:15:39.600 --> 01:15:44.399
little more as an accidental medium,
half that laughing, half I want,

1223
01:15:45.279 --> 01:15:47.560
half that uy uy oy oy what
happened? And then another orque was for

1224
01:15:47.600 --> 01:15:53.399
Alfonso and much more thought out.
And maybe I think the little girl'

1225
01:15:53.560 --> 01:15:56.760
s orange juice fits me. It
doesn' t suit me what I was

1226
01:15:56.800 --> 01:15:59.760
going to take. She, I' m glad Charo was desperate, she

1227
01:16:00.119 --> 01:16:02.039
can' t find him in the
orange zuma, because they only find him

1228
01:16:02.039 --> 01:16:04.439
the scramble. I don' t
know anymore. I don' t know

1229
01:16:04.479 --> 01:16:09.039
how they administer the east, it
happens that the liquids ask, uh,

1230
01:16:09.279 --> 01:16:12.920
I don' t know, but
if you listen to it, but if

1231
01:16:12.920 --> 01:16:15.479
they eat at three o' clock
in the afternoon, the girl at five,

1232
01:16:15.640 --> 01:16:16.199
she can' t be walking down
the street. They' d be

1233
01:16:16.199 --> 01:16:19.199
like deep. They can' t
be winning. There' s the problem

1234
01:16:19.319 --> 01:16:23.920
with the witness who shows up after
he says that on this hill he killed

1235
01:16:24.000 --> 01:16:26.079
me who saw her at 6:
30 an hour and saw her with the

1236
01:16:26.880 --> 01:16:29.399
father, a girl who' s
going to buy some slippers with her boyfriend.

1237
01:16:29.399 --> 01:16:30.960
Indeed, you can find the receipt
of the slippers. Indeed, the

1238
01:16:31.000 --> 01:16:36.479
girl was there who says she saw
Alfonso Cola raise. There are theories that

1239
01:16:36.520 --> 01:16:39.520
say the girl' s day is
wrong, she' s got the wrong

1240
01:16:39.520 --> 01:16:42.119
week. It wasn' t Saturday
without another Saturday. The fact is that,

1241
01:16:42.680 --> 01:16:45.880
as such, we cannot prove that
Alfonso stepped on Montoto. We can

1242
01:16:45.920 --> 01:16:47.359
' t prove it. There'
s no evidence. Or sir says he

1243
01:16:47.399 --> 01:16:50.479
' s been at his house all
afternoon reading, even though his phone was

1244
01:16:50.680 --> 01:16:54.319
like good, in plane mode.
No or something to the silent plane,

1245
01:16:54.960 --> 01:17:00.199
but there is a record of messages
exchanged and a call to Montoto, that

1246
01:17:00.239 --> 01:17:03.199
is, Alfonso is reading quotes in
the air again. But it is true

1247
01:17:03.199 --> 01:17:06.159
that there is an amount that calls
Montutto' s fixed. I mean,

1248
01:17:06.239 --> 01:17:09.760
he knows there' s someone in
there who knows he' s in charo

1249
01:17:09.920 --> 01:17:12.079
I don' t know if maybe. He' s asking when you'

1250
01:17:12.199 --> 01:17:15.199
re coming for dinner or how we
do next or whatever, or where the

1251
01:17:15.199 --> 01:17:16.520
girl is. Let' s remember
that the girl left her cell phone at

1252
01:17:16.520 --> 01:17:20.279
home, the girl was in her
room, the girl was in her room.

1253
01:17:20.319 --> 01:17:24.960
When the police go on the first
inspection, just skip this whole thing.

1254
01:17:25.760 --> 01:17:28.920
The room was as if it wasn' t neat or picked up,

1255
01:17:28.960 --> 01:17:30.880
that is, it was like I' d been doing some homework and suddenly

1256
01:17:31.000 --> 01:17:32.840
in the series they portrayed it very
well. Not all of a sudden he

1257
01:17:32.880 --> 01:17:35.640
gets up and goes and leaves until
the cell phone that the series, Alfonso

1258
01:17:35.640 --> 01:17:40.479
Basterra tells him well, leave him
there carrying and if we go for a

1259
01:17:40.560 --> 01:17:44.239
moment, only then when you come
back already you talk to your friends and

1260
01:17:44.319 --> 01:17:45.479
such a very convenient thing not to
leave the cell phone so that the girl

1261
01:17:45.479 --> 01:17:48.239
could not locate her. Of course
you know of course that' s what

1262
01:17:48.279 --> 01:17:53.279
they say everywhere, that teen doesn' t leave the phone in fits the

1263
01:17:53.319 --> 01:17:57.520
girl so that twenty- seven grams
of hour. Cepan did, in fact,

1264
01:17:57.840 --> 01:18:00.920
on that journey that we also see
that it is in the seat of

1265
01:18:00.960 --> 01:18:04.479
the copilot quite upright, that is, it is going to stand upright,

1266
01:18:04.640 --> 01:18:08.079
it is not going to fall forward
those new lying on the back tape or

1267
01:18:08.159 --> 01:18:11.439
anything, I mean the girl is
going conscious and van dant is active.

1268
01:18:11.600 --> 01:18:15.479
Not then. My theory is that, maybe that intake occurred, it occurred

1269
01:18:15.479 --> 01:18:20.720
hemotouto or a minute before leaving home, because it' s that if it

1270
01:18:20.720 --> 01:18:25.439
doesn' t fit the times,
because a logr makes bread at the time

1271
01:18:25.520 --> 01:18:29.600
you' re clear to hear just
like, It wasn' t all at

1272
01:18:29.600 --> 01:18:30.039
once the same, It wasn'
t all the hit. Sure as well.

1273
01:18:30.159 --> 01:18:32.680
They put a little, but the
girl was walking around at five o

1274
01:18:32.720 --> 01:18:36.039
' clock in the afternoon and had
been given enough alone on the street.

1275
01:18:36.119 --> 01:18:44.199
One thing has also happened if she
had already been drugged at least three times

1276
01:18:44.319 --> 01:18:47.840
before, let' s say that
the effect it produces is on her like

1277
01:18:47.960 --> 01:18:51.359
she was probably already used to it. She' s gonna be dizzy.

1278
01:18:51.479 --> 01:18:55.520
You know what I mean. Let' s remember that she has some whatsapps

1279
01:18:55.600 --> 01:18:58.279
with a friend saying haja, my
parents are trying to kill me, yeah,

1280
01:18:58.399 --> 01:19:00.760
well and that the friend tells her
sorry and the other angry is no

1281
01:19:00.760 --> 01:19:02.960
joke. And the white powder he
says gives me white powder that I got

1282
01:19:03.000 --> 01:19:06.600
for the whites who had me sleeping
for two days. But I mean,

1283
01:19:06.760 --> 01:19:13.800
maybe she doesn' t see her
walking badly or fainting. That' s

1284
01:19:14.319 --> 01:19:16.960
why she doesn' t have a
little bit more control, but once she

1285
01:19:17.039 --> 01:19:20.640
gets pina because of a lot of
control that you don' t control her,

1286
01:19:20.920 --> 01:19:21.800
Auntie, or you' re taking
it. It doesn' t make

1287
01:19:21.840 --> 01:19:25.319
him bread is that he doesn'
t, so you can' t even

1288
01:19:25.319 --> 01:19:29.640
articulate a word. You know I
was going to tell you that death is

1289
01:19:29.640 --> 01:19:32.960
estimated to have been between seven and
eight in the afternoon. So seven eight

1290
01:19:33.000 --> 01:19:38.119
in the afternoon don' t put
on winning the car is picked up at

1291
01:19:38.159 --> 01:19:41.239
about six thirty o' clock they
arrived just before seven o' clock in

1292
01:19:41.239 --> 01:19:43.079
the house. The girl finds herself
more, gets into bed, goes to

1293
01:19:43.279 --> 01:19:48.680
bed. Death is completely elucidated by
forensics that it has been by lateral asphyxiation,

1294
01:19:49.560 --> 01:19:54.079
that is, the girl has more
bruising on one side of the face

1295
01:19:54.119 --> 01:19:56.640
or in the nose. In other
words, the girl was drowned, but

1296
01:19:56.680 --> 01:20:00.039
with an ice cream face and put
a soft object on her, because there

1297
01:20:00.640 --> 01:20:02.840
are no wounds that a hard object, that is, a cushion, would

1298
01:20:02.840 --> 01:20:05.640
put on her. So that'
s what the show portrays very well.

1299
01:20:06.000 --> 01:20:10.840
There is also another thing the autopsy
says, which is that the girl breathed

1300
01:20:10.880 --> 01:20:14.119
again and drowned again several times,
that is, that there was, perhaps,

1301
01:20:14.159 --> 01:20:17.159
some sort of repentance or cushion lifts, which indicates that, perhaps,

1302
01:20:18.039 --> 01:20:23.359
the killer or killer or killer had
as a moment of moral objections, moment

1303
01:20:23.439 --> 01:20:27.439
of doubt to what he was doing
in a tight way and stopped squeezing clear

1304
01:20:27.600 --> 01:20:30.319
That' s what the autopsy says, that they have the lungs and in

1305
01:20:30.319 --> 01:20:33.960
the way that the arterioses have blown
up and everything that happens when you suffocate

1306
01:20:33.960 --> 01:20:40.479
there is like a go and comes
from what has happened. It' s

1307
01:20:40.600 --> 01:20:44.039
not boom you know from one to
the other. Then that has all this

1308
01:20:44.079 --> 01:20:47.960
side of the face. He'
s got it, like, vascular wounds

1309
01:20:48.000 --> 01:20:51.279
that he' s been put on
a weight there. Of course, then

1310
01:20:51.279 --> 01:20:57.359
we know they find her, and
we also know that the girl has a

1311
01:20:57.399 --> 01:21:00.760
lot of bruises on her body,
which I think is what the series puts

1312
01:21:00.760 --> 01:21:03.720
in focus. When I pull her
down the stairs, let' s remember

1313
01:21:03.840 --> 01:21:06.359
that the middle girl weighed practically the
same as her mother. It was more

1314
01:21:06.439 --> 01:21:09.359
of a foul than she was.
It wasn' t the girl was more

1315
01:21:09.399 --> 01:21:12.760
foul, but she weighed a little
less because she was a little thinner had

1316
01:21:13.199 --> 01:21:15.640
less meat then so that that mother
would lift that girl up a body that

1317
01:21:15.720 --> 01:21:19.119
would be dead weight. And besides, we' re talking about a lady

1318
01:21:19.279 --> 01:21:24.600
who was so well, very doped, very doped and very gene made sport

1319
01:21:24.680 --> 01:21:26.880
in her life. You understand that
there are girls who are short and short

1320
01:21:26.960 --> 01:21:30.479
and, perhaps, if they could
have formed with a deadweight girl who weighed

1321
01:21:30.520 --> 01:21:33.000
more than 30 kilos, perhaps,
if they could have with her. But

1322
01:21:33.039 --> 01:21:35.159
the charoport couldn' t take her
daughter in her arms. I mean.

1323
01:21:35.159 --> 01:21:40.119
We know that. But she was
able to drag it if and she could

1324
01:21:40.159 --> 01:21:42.479
drag it perfectly because the girl was
full of the body. Yeah, but

1325
01:21:42.560 --> 01:21:44.399
you have to drag her. You
have to get her in the car.

1326
01:21:44.479 --> 01:21:46.039
Yes, you have to leave on
the track, you have to drag.

1327
01:21:46.600 --> 01:21:50.800
Then we have the ropes tied with
a famous orange rope, an alpaca orange.

1328
01:21:51.920 --> 01:21:56.000
I don' t know what.
Then we have to get the girl

1329
01:21:56.000 --> 01:21:59.800
here at seven, get in the
room, she' ll be in bad

1330
01:22:00.119 --> 01:22:03.199
shape, the person goes up the
drowning in bed, then goes down,

1331
01:22:03.720 --> 01:22:05.720
puts her in the car, takes
her to the forest track. Let'

1332
01:22:05.800 --> 01:22:08.840
s remember it' s not night
yet. We' re talking about September

1333
01:22:08.920 --> 01:22:12.800
in Galicia at seven and a half
eight and a half at night, it

1334
01:22:12.840 --> 01:22:15.039
' s not night. The alarm' s on at eight fifty- three.

1335
01:22:15.079 --> 01:22:17.359
And that' s when a charo
neighbor sees her go out with the

1336
01:22:17.359 --> 01:22:21.159
car, of course the neighbor says
he didn' t see anything weird at

1337
01:22:21.199 --> 01:22:25.039
eight fifty- three. I looked
at it in Galicia in September. It

1338
01:22:25.039 --> 01:22:27.159
' s still daylight, I mean, there' s still light. You

1339
01:22:27.680 --> 01:22:30.760
know then risking has a forest track
that we' re saying, a forest

1340
01:22:30.800 --> 01:22:32.079
track for people who haven' t
seen it. It' s a truck

1341
01:22:32.199 --> 01:22:35.079
but it' s not a remote
road in the middle. There were houses,

1342
01:22:35.520 --> 01:22:39.159
there were houses everywhere, that is, it' s a road in

1343
01:22:39.159 --> 01:22:41.640
the middle, a forest with people
living there. It' s a road

1344
01:22:41.720 --> 01:22:44.520
in the middle of a search,
but it could have been seen by people

1345
01:22:44.520 --> 01:22:46.079
walking around, you know. In
fact, we have the one who later

1346
01:22:46.159 --> 01:22:48.039
I guess we' ll comment on, the gentleman who swears and perjures.

1347
01:22:48.319 --> 01:22:51.479
Neighbor passed him at 12 and that' s not clear. He lives on

1348
01:22:51.560 --> 01:22:57.920
the edge of the Vale forest track. Then we have charo to shut off

1349
01:22:58.159 --> 01:23:00.319
the alarm sorry connects, reconnects the
alarm from the house, i e it

1350
01:23:00.399 --> 01:23:05.960
leaves just before nine o' clock
at night. We have Alfonso going this

1351
01:23:06.079 --> 01:23:11.319
time. This is self- locating
thanks to the call What it does to

1352
01:23:11.359 --> 01:23:14.000
make it look like he' s
in Santiago, which isn' t there.

1353
01:23:14.920 --> 01:23:16.880
This is important, like it'
s expected. He explained this.

1354
01:23:17.239 --> 01:23:20.520
Alfonso Basterra puts his cell phone in
airplane mode, so you can' t

1355
01:23:20.560 --> 01:23:26.239
locate it. The location of the
cell phone you can' t locate,

1356
01:23:26.399 --> 01:23:30.039
but what it does is it calls
the fixed amount to say I' m

1357
01:23:30.119 --> 01:23:34.079
not in Montuto. His phone calls
Montoto. With his phone he calls Montoto

1358
01:23:34.680 --> 01:23:39.199
Vale and there' s a landline
call that I think is two minutes that

1359
01:23:39.199 --> 01:23:40.560
he says at the trial, which
is that I call her. Well,

1360
01:23:40.760 --> 01:23:42.680
to see if you' re going
to come to dinner, what you'

1361
01:23:42.760 --> 01:23:45.279
re going to do, I don' t know, what I know,

1362
01:23:45.279 --> 01:23:46.600
how many you remember the show telling
him. Give me an hour, you

1363
01:23:46.720 --> 01:23:48.520
know listen give me an hour to
show that I wasn' t here.

1364
01:23:48.600 --> 01:23:53.239
Such may be that, perhaps,
Alfonso basterra outside in the back seat,

1365
01:23:53.319 --> 01:23:58.439
in the back of the car.
Help him with the issue of choking the

1366
01:23:58.560 --> 01:24:01.119
girl gets in the car and then
he' s out. Let us remember

1367
01:24:01.159 --> 01:24:04.960
that we looked at him from Montoto
to Santiago. There are two hours of

1368
01:24:04.960 --> 01:24:09.119
walking at any given time I could
have, but they would have picked up

1369
01:24:09.119 --> 01:24:10.880
the cameras. Some camera would have
done it. The point is that it

1370
01:24:10.960 --> 01:24:14.560
' s not during that afternoon.
He doesn' t get anything, he

1371
01:24:14.600 --> 01:24:16.479
doesn' t just stay with her. He' s got a think that

1372
01:24:16.520 --> 01:24:21.319
a party or a fling or something. I think Judge Taine doesn' t

1373
01:24:21.359 --> 01:24:25.600
look at that car because they look
at the mother' s car and what

1374
01:24:25.600 --> 01:24:28.359
happens to the mother' s car. The mats in the back are missing,

1375
01:24:28.800 --> 01:24:30.239
and then there are traces of the
girl' s vomit. To see

1376
01:24:30.319 --> 01:24:34.560
every father' s car has remains
of vomiting to his children, not of

1377
01:24:34.640 --> 01:24:40.000
any merit, but they investigate me
the mother' s car, because it

1378
01:24:40.039 --> 01:24:43.399
is the one that appeared in the
video the father' s car either do

1379
01:24:43.039 --> 01:24:45.960
not see it or did not go
that way. Well, in theory he

1380
01:24:46.000 --> 01:24:49.359
gets kicked out or comes back to
Santiago Solas like nine, nine and a

1381
01:24:49.600 --> 01:24:55.239
half he goes back to Casa nine. I think it takes as long as

1382
01:24:55.239 --> 01:24:57.600
twice as long as it usually takes, that is, if it takes 25

1383
01:24:57.680 --> 01:25:03.159
minutes normally, she takes as long
as she goes to Alfonso' s house,

1384
01:25:04.000 --> 01:25:09.880
which is around the corner and tells
him she' s here. The

1385
01:25:09.920 --> 01:25:13.720
girl isn' t where she is, what' s going on, I

1386
01:25:13.720 --> 01:25:16.520
don' t know how Alfonso is, and then they go to the police

1387
01:25:16.640 --> 01:25:17.600
station and the complaint gets in the
way at 10: 30 p m.

1388
01:25:17.640 --> 01:25:26.000
Of the night let us remember that
three hours later two people who go to

1389
01:25:26.000 --> 01:25:29.600
drinks find her a little earlier.
The thing is, as I was in

1390
01:25:29.600 --> 01:25:30.359
the car and they don' t
want the police to find out, they

1391
01:25:30.399 --> 01:25:34.399
were in the car drunk, they
go without meat, they take the car

1392
01:25:34.479 --> 01:25:39.159
back to the pat where they were
and they walk back where the girl was

1393
01:25:39.159 --> 01:25:42.399
and then they call the police to
come to all these. It' s

1394
01:25:42.520 --> 01:25:45.760
already one night when they find her. To all this, we have one

1395
01:25:45.760 --> 01:25:48.439
of the neighbors who says that with
the woman, they take walks on the

1396
01:25:48.439 --> 01:25:53.319
forest track like throwing their cigar.
I don' t know what a flashlight

1397
01:25:53.359 --> 01:25:57.119
wears on those walks because you can' t see anything, that' s

1398
01:25:57.119 --> 01:25:59.439
that total darkness. In fact,
they tell in the east that there was

1399
01:25:59.439 --> 01:26:01.039
a new moon that there was no
light, that was good. I don

1400
01:26:01.119 --> 01:26:03.720
' t know if you' ve
been in the field and you' ve

1401
01:26:03.720 --> 01:26:05.000
been at night, you' ve
turned off the light, that' s

1402
01:26:05.000 --> 01:26:08.000
that darkness. It' s one
thing it' s that you don'

1403
01:26:08.000 --> 01:26:11.439
t see anything. And this gentleman
says that the ride down that track is

1404
01:26:11.479 --> 01:26:14.560
about 11: 30 p m with
his wife and that they saw absolutely nothing

1405
01:26:14.600 --> 01:26:16.640
and that there would be. Oh, what do you think, what do

1406
01:26:16.680 --> 01:26:20.159
you think of this one? Sir
drives me crazy, this guy' s

1407
01:26:20.239 --> 01:26:25.399
already super obsessed, this thing about
me was, I was and you'

1408
01:26:25.439 --> 01:26:28.439
re not gonna get me to tell
you otherwise, I don' t know

1409
01:26:28.439 --> 01:26:29.319
what, I don' t know
how much. I mean, you don

1410
01:26:29.359 --> 01:26:31.239
' t see a bit of a
protagonism, and I see a little bit

1411
01:26:31.239 --> 01:26:33.960
of it. Yeah, a little
obsessive. You know for me that I

1412
01:26:33.960 --> 01:26:38.319
was, for me that I was. I think they might not have seen

1413
01:26:38.359 --> 01:26:42.520
her because you' re not looking
for something like that. You know,

1414
01:26:42.640 --> 01:26:45.600
the kid was lying in the gutter
pretty visibly. I wasn' t blinking

1415
01:26:45.600 --> 01:26:48.039
in the woods. In addition,
so that' s something else and then

1416
01:26:48.039 --> 01:26:50.960
it was put on quite carefully,
which is another thing that in the trucrame

1417
01:26:51.279 --> 01:26:57.159
is very much studied the positioning of
a corpse, that is, when they

1418
01:26:57.239 --> 01:27:01.079
throw a corpse wherever it is super
is studied by studying the morphology of the

1419
01:27:01.079 --> 01:27:04.640
positioning of a corpse and what happens
when the killer has some emotional involvement.

1420
01:27:05.680 --> 01:27:10.159
The postures of the corpses are very
different and even a child is thought to

1421
01:27:10.199 --> 01:27:12.960
have been left with a certain affection. Yeah,' cause he was face

1422
01:27:12.960 --> 01:27:17.760
up. Yeah, the little arms
with the games. Yeah. Let'

1423
01:27:17.760 --> 01:27:21.359
s remember that when they find her, she still has the graze on her,

1424
01:27:21.520 --> 01:27:25.000
so I don' t know if
there was that cauro and the pants,

1425
01:27:25.880 --> 01:27:29.159
that is, that girl had peeed
for an hour and a half,

1426
01:27:29.359 --> 01:27:30.720
as you know, two hours that
you could measure yourself dead. It is

1427
01:27:30.760 --> 01:27:35.079
also true that loose sphincters occur.
I don' t understand it perfectly clear

1428
01:27:35.159 --> 01:27:38.680
probably also maybe, because I had
a lot of fluid in the bladder that

1429
01:27:38.680 --> 01:27:42.199
I think that' s another reason
why, maybe, the taking of event

1430
01:27:42.319 --> 01:27:45.399
of makes pinas was produced by a
liquid I don' t know in the

1431
01:27:45.439 --> 01:27:47.960
they were going to find early,
if not the next morning they were going

1432
01:27:48.000 --> 01:27:50.600
to find that that' s something
else or that I think a lot and

1433
01:27:50.640 --> 01:27:55.640
it' s a kind of puzzle, piece of puzzle that I lack of

1434
01:27:55.640 --> 01:27:57.680
what was meant to leave it four
kilometers from the house. It' s

1435
01:27:57.760 --> 01:28:00.840
not close, super close. It
is not super incremen is very incriminating,

1436
01:28:00.279 --> 01:28:05.239
very incriminating in a populated area,
not in an unpopulated area. When you

1437
01:28:05.239 --> 01:28:09.920
did, you could have taken it
a lot further to a forest where there

1438
01:28:10.000 --> 01:28:13.359
would have been no idios tossing it
through a barrage when there is gallicia in

1439
01:28:13.359 --> 01:28:15.159
the place where to leave corpses.
I don' t know, Your Honor,

1440
01:28:15.319 --> 01:28:18.600
I' m guessing this. Well, okay, it' s not

1441
01:28:18.640 --> 01:28:21.159
because I' ve thought about it
at some point. You must think about

1442
01:28:21.159 --> 01:28:28.520
life, but I think there was
a certain intention that they should find it

1443
01:28:28.520 --> 01:28:30.119
as soon as possible. Not just
that they found her, but that they

1444
01:28:30.159 --> 01:28:32.960
found her the sooner you know and
if you don' t think it'

1445
01:28:33.039 --> 01:28:39.159
s any more a matter of they
were hyperstorms and there are things they just

1446
01:28:39.159 --> 01:28:40.479
didn' t think of. They' re not meant to be. Yeah,

1447
01:28:40.840 --> 01:28:42.039
I mean. In fact, for
example, Mira, I mean,

1448
01:28:42.199 --> 01:28:45.560
it' s not for now that
I solve the killers' lives, but

1449
01:28:45.600 --> 01:28:48.760
if they killed her in the house
of Mont Uto, if they leave her

1450
01:28:48.760 --> 01:28:51.960
buried there, no one finds out
that we don' t know cases.

1451
01:28:53.119 --> 01:28:56.119
Well, don' t think you' re announcing the disappearance. It'

1452
01:28:56.159 --> 01:28:58.960
s the first place they' re
going to look Good or not. There

1453
01:28:59.000 --> 01:29:01.199
are cases that haven' t found
them. The thing is that this house

1454
01:29:01.239 --> 01:29:04.640
is seen to have a mogollón of
the mogollón land, it has a huge

1455
01:29:04.640 --> 01:29:08.920
estate. It' s a big
house, you have a pool, there

1456
01:29:09.000 --> 01:29:11.199
was a very large estate. Then
I don' t know. I believe

1457
01:29:11.239 --> 01:29:15.479
that there is some premeditation, but
there is also certain how improvisation is said.

1458
01:29:15.680 --> 01:29:18.920
You know because there are things that
it' s like it' s

1459
01:29:18.920 --> 01:29:24.840
not, like, broa stoles,
very clumsy and all this makes me feel

1460
01:29:24.920 --> 01:29:30.800
like it' s all hard for
me to figure out to charport by taking

1461
01:29:30.000 --> 01:29:33.680
a body by the pulse out of
a trunk in broad daylight, because eight

1462
01:29:33.680 --> 01:29:34.000
and a half nine in the afternoon
is that it was still day. Man,

1463
01:29:34.640 --> 01:29:38.800
you know, like a lot of
bes pri is, like there'

1464
01:29:38.800 --> 01:29:42.640
s still a little light. Then
it may be that the positioning of each

1465
01:29:42.680 --> 01:29:46.039
time occurred later in the dark,
but then it has to have been past

1466
01:29:46.039 --> 01:29:49.039
10: 30 and the two were
in the were not. No, I

1467
01:29:49.039 --> 01:29:55.399
mean, the child' s placement
has to be good. After nine,

1468
01:29:55.600 --> 01:29:59.399
sure, after the unsure ones,
because the alarm is connected at nine five

1469
01:29:59.439 --> 01:30:02.039
and before the average diece, considering
yes, that it has to give them

1470
01:30:02.039 --> 01:30:08.680
time to arrive and that there is. I mean, the only images of

1471
01:30:08.720 --> 01:30:15.319
Alfonso that there are of that evening
are of him looking like searching, yes,

1472
01:30:15.199 --> 01:30:17.840
they are. I don' t
know what they' re gonna be,

1473
01:30:17.840 --> 01:30:20.359
but what a coincidence. Not that
the only images there are of him

1474
01:30:21.239 --> 01:30:27.600
are as they are. Walking in
front of the Tas Chamber I am looking

1475
01:30:27.880 --> 01:30:30.960
clearly, of course and I believe
that, in fact, the complaint so

1476
01:30:30.000 --> 01:30:32.920
early that they make to run away
already at 10: 30 is again an

1477
01:30:32.960 --> 01:30:36.840
exculpatory one for them make it apostal. And more to say, there'

1478
01:30:36.840 --> 01:30:40.640
s another little detail, which is
the subject of the damageers. This is

1479
01:30:40.640 --> 01:30:43.520
when I don' t know if
it is. I don' t know

1480
01:30:43.560 --> 01:30:46.600
if it' s the same night
they report the disappearance. They' re

1481
01:30:46.640 --> 01:30:49.600
at Rosario' s house and the
police tell him good and where are the

1482
01:30:49.600 --> 01:30:53.119
swimsuits that Rosario is like in plan. I don' t know, I

1483
01:30:53.159 --> 01:30:56.359
don' t know, they'
re not like four laps and suddenly he

1484
01:30:56.399 --> 01:30:59.680
opens a closet and finds them perfectly
bent. I mean, it' s

1485
01:30:59.760 --> 01:31:04.520
given you time to double and yet
you report the disappearance so quickly. Yeah,

1486
01:31:04.560 --> 01:31:08.640
but no, but listen, I
might have seen that in the sense

1487
01:31:08.640 --> 01:31:11.399
of you You see, the girl
isn' t your first thought is that

1488
01:31:11.399 --> 01:31:13.640
she' s gone with the father. Then you say well, then I

1489
01:31:13.640 --> 01:31:15.319
' ll leave the swimsuits in place
and I' ll go and see and

1490
01:31:15.319 --> 01:31:18.680
call it. Good. She'
s telling you she' s not okay

1491
01:31:19.159 --> 01:31:21.520
Yeah, that part I don'
t see as incriminating. It' s

1492
01:31:21.520 --> 01:31:24.399
true. The fact that I don' t talk to swimsuits. I don

1493
01:31:24.439 --> 01:31:27.840
' t think so because she'
s supposed to. He' s not

1494
01:31:27.880 --> 01:31:30.119
supposed to know that the child has
disappeared when he enters the house. She

1495
01:31:30.199 --> 01:31:33.439
goes with her swimsuit bag. Supposedly, we' re going to reconstruct scenes.

1496
01:31:33.520 --> 01:31:35.760
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, she sells, she comes in

1497
01:31:35.840 --> 01:31:39.600
with her swimsuit bosita. Assume where
you are not, then see your father.

1498
01:31:39.800 --> 01:31:42.000
I' ll put it in your
moment and I' ll be right

1499
01:31:42.000 --> 01:31:45.359
there. You know okay or I
call that part I don' t know

1500
01:31:45.359 --> 01:31:48.439
I don' t look like like
God we have You know we' re

1501
01:31:48.439 --> 01:31:53.399
not worth the truth either. I
don' t see him then you know

1502
01:31:53.479 --> 01:31:56.920
nothing, well, because we have
that very soon already the two people,

1503
01:31:57.199 --> 01:31:59.960
which we say, by the way, one of them later in the months

1504
01:32:00.039 --> 01:32:02.960
ended up in jail for a drug
trafficking crime. Nothing in Galicia, how

1505
01:32:03.000 --> 01:32:13.680
beautiful you are how beautiful. Then
this person who also by appearance was already

1506
01:32:13.720 --> 01:32:16.359
known to the Civil Guard with his
friend, finds in the body of asunta.

1507
01:32:17.520 --> 01:32:21.079
They find cigarette butts from them There, well, the point of plate

1508
01:32:21.079 --> 01:32:26.399
as good, it' s super
disastrous. Such people are exculpated very quickly,

1509
01:32:27.079 --> 01:32:30.119
which is another thing that strikes me
very much, because they were a

1510
01:32:30.119 --> 01:32:33.920
little feron riffra, a little bit
gentucilla, no, why not say it.

1511
01:32:34.479 --> 01:32:39.479
So little people who find a girl
say at least, because the car

1512
01:32:39.520 --> 01:32:42.239
didn' t look at it,
their car and, besides, considering that

1513
01:32:42.279 --> 01:32:45.880
this is something else a little disturbing, that in the same place, in

1514
01:32:46.000 --> 01:32:50.079
the same scene where they find it, they pass the forensic light find stains

1515
01:32:50.159 --> 01:32:57.279
of a liquid that those who are
there say they believe is semen yes,

1516
01:32:58.399 --> 01:33:01.239
but well, I' ll also
say I' ve looked at the light

1517
01:33:01.720 --> 01:33:04.439
this way, the light is shining
not only with that membria, with others,

1518
01:33:04.840 --> 01:33:09.439
glowing with drool, with vomiting.
Yes, the scroll is taken for

1519
01:33:09.600 --> 01:33:15.279
granted that as these people are used
to seeing the different types of stains it

1520
01:33:15.359 --> 01:33:18.439
may be that already in the same
place they identify that it may perfectly not

1521
01:33:18.439 --> 01:33:21.039
be. But, well, of
course, it' s funny that you

1522
01:33:21.079 --> 01:33:25.039
' re clear, but it'
s funny that you have two drunk gentlemen

1523
01:33:25.079 --> 01:33:28.439
who don' t know what they' re doing today I don' t

1524
01:33:28.479 --> 01:33:30.239
have any meat, I don'
t know what, I know how much

1525
01:33:30.319 --> 01:33:32.199
and you find him super shabble is
what you say, which is kind of

1526
01:33:32.199 --> 01:33:33.640
quick to get them off their backs. They don' t take them off

1527
01:33:33.640 --> 01:33:38.560
super fast on themselves, because they
collaborate a lot and they' re very

1528
01:33:38.560 --> 01:33:40.560
cooperative and I don' t know
what. I imagine they' d take

1529
01:33:40.680 --> 01:33:44.399
some sanction for driving without meat and
cream and so on. But other than

1530
01:33:44.479 --> 01:33:46.359
that, these people do not appear
again in the instruction, in the summary

1531
01:33:46.439 --> 01:33:49.279
or in anything, which is a
little thing that also gives me to think.

1532
01:33:49.960 --> 01:33:53.079
What gives you to think, because
I don' t know aunt.

1533
01:33:53.439 --> 01:33:56.119
I' m not going to testify. At the trial, yes, yes,

1534
01:33:56.279 --> 01:33:58.199
yes. At the trial, yes, they state ah what happens is

1535
01:33:58.279 --> 01:34:00.560
that I wouldn' t have wallpapered. I won' t get you to

1536
01:34:00.560 --> 01:34:02.119
the barracks. I don' t
know, I don' t know,

1537
01:34:02.119 --> 01:34:05.359
I don' t know. Well, the point is, I' m

1538
01:34:05.479 --> 01:34:11.159
talking to him like you told the
parents before The father had already said this

1539
01:34:11.279 --> 01:34:13.760
kind of thing. She' s
been killed I just hope she doesn'

1540
01:34:13.760 --> 01:34:16.119
t show up raped. It is
true that the girl has no signs of

1541
01:34:16.159 --> 01:34:21.119
sexual assault. The attitude of both
of you is super suspicious. We'

1542
01:34:21.159 --> 01:34:24.680
ve already said it eighty- five
billion times. Everyone' s attitude to

1543
01:34:24.760 --> 01:34:28.239
things doesn' t have to be
incriminating, it doesn' t have to

1544
01:34:29.000 --> 01:34:31.039
be a symptom that you' re
nothing. But good aunt. But your

1545
01:34:31.119 --> 01:34:35.439
daughter' s already dying, man, she' s getting killed, and

1546
01:34:35.520 --> 01:34:40.359
you' re the next day looking
at the front pages of the papers and

1547
01:34:40.479 --> 01:34:42.359
calling the newspapers to take your wife' s name off, that your wife

1548
01:34:42.399 --> 01:34:45.840
' s name is very prestigious,
and that they leave yours alone, you

1549
01:34:45.880 --> 01:34:45.960
don' t give a shit about
prestige when your daughter' s been murdered.

1550
01:34:46.960 --> 01:34:51.479
They are two people who at no
time pre- detention and, that

1551
01:34:51.920 --> 01:34:55.359
is, before it was known,
that is seventy- two hours before a

1552
01:34:55.399 --> 01:35:01.760
workshop appears and the mother is arrested. At no time do they wonder or

1553
01:35:01.960 --> 01:35:04.000
investigate or have such a thing,
a little bit of what has happened.

1554
01:35:04.319 --> 01:35:06.720
They don' t ask to see
the girl. They point to no one.

1555
01:35:08.119 --> 01:35:10.800
It' s just that they point
us to no one, and you,

1556
01:35:11.439 --> 01:35:11.880
when they don' t tell you, I' m gonna screw it

1557
01:35:11.880 --> 01:35:15.199
up. The first thing you want
to do is point out someone, that

1558
01:35:15.239 --> 01:35:16.359
is, the first thing you need. He' s guilty. If you

1559
01:35:16.479 --> 01:35:20.039
' re not clear as a father
or me, it would be my obsession,

1560
01:35:20.239 --> 01:35:24.359
that is, I' d get
everything. Lean Nison, you know

1561
01:35:24.520 --> 01:35:28.840
the bully and the school, the
guy who looks at me badly, clearly

1562
01:35:28.840 --> 01:35:30.960
or the same way. The ones
who found her or the plans. It

1563
01:35:30.159 --> 01:35:33.319
would have been accurate how, of
course, you get your hands on your

1564
01:35:33.359 --> 01:35:35.319
head, how you don' t
take them to the barracks. If they

1565
01:35:35.359 --> 01:35:39.039
' re the first to see her, they' ve seen nothing. I

1566
01:35:39.199 --> 01:35:45.279
would have gone that way and,
in fact, this very rare attitude is

1567
01:35:46.119 --> 01:35:51.439
already completely uncovered. When they record
them in jail, of course when they

1568
01:35:51.560 --> 01:35:56.960
finally do. Well, there are
quite a few things about destruction and detention

1569
01:35:57.039 --> 01:36:00.640
and all that are quite curious,
because Taín collaborates a lot with the civil

1570
01:36:00.680 --> 01:36:01.920
war. And one of the things
that the civil guard asks of them asks

1571
01:36:02.079 --> 01:36:06.000
the investigating judge when they arrest the
two, Charro and Alfonso, is that,

1572
01:36:06.119 --> 01:36:09.600
please, if they can put them
in adjoining cells and activate a recording,

1573
01:36:09.880 --> 01:36:13.079
the judge gives them permission. But
it does tell you this recording won

1574
01:36:13.119 --> 01:36:15.880
' t be able to be used
in the trial, because you can'

1575
01:36:15.880 --> 01:36:17.720
t do this. Do you know
how it actually happened? How did it

1576
01:36:17.720 --> 01:36:20.359
actually happen? But you know what' s going on anyway. It'

1577
01:36:20.399 --> 01:36:26.079
s also very cuckoo and I knew
that if those recordings came out, that

1578
01:36:26.199 --> 01:36:29.199
they came out, that I think
it' s that he worked in the

1579
01:36:29.239 --> 01:36:30.720
media, he hasn' t worked
in court. I think it was that

1580
01:36:31.119 --> 01:36:35.199
they issued them in a public mirror. Evidently, you know that, even

1581
01:36:35.279 --> 01:36:38.960
if they don' t use them
at trial, people are going to keep

1582
01:36:39.039 --> 01:36:42.479
that conversation in their head, so
it' s going to be impossible for

1583
01:36:42.560 --> 01:36:45.279
you to be on a jury,
so don' t influence yourself that it

1584
01:36:45.279 --> 01:36:47.039
can' t be anymore. I
found out that I was pregnant at the

1585
01:36:47.039 --> 01:36:51.479
weekend, the one who dies astunta
and then I was pregnant pretty bad because

1586
01:36:51.560 --> 01:36:55.199
I felt very bad and in the
work I was fatal. I had a

1587
01:36:55.239 --> 01:36:57.239
horrible job. So what I was
doing was I was wearing my helmets and

1588
01:36:57.239 --> 01:37:00.560
I was with ten of five all
day, all day long before the situation

1589
01:37:00.000 --> 01:37:04.760
was working clearly, so what happens
that I lived that whole case during the

1590
01:37:04.840 --> 01:37:08.439
two thousand thirteen and the two thousand
fourteen. I just don' t remember

1591
01:37:08.640 --> 01:37:11.479
perfectly, because I was watching it
all day. And one of the things

1592
01:37:11.479 --> 01:37:15.720
I remember is that first week of
the process, Huet Time was already packed.

1593
01:37:15.880 --> 01:37:16.920
Yeah, totally, I' m
there all the time. Yeah.

1594
01:37:17.000 --> 01:37:21.119
If you think it' s normal
to play an instrument game at Anna Rusa

1595
01:37:21.159 --> 01:37:24.359
telling things about that post- class
and there it is, uh, that

1596
01:37:24.399 --> 01:37:27.640
the theme so that Uncle has gone
pots there has remained in templates. Supposedly

1597
01:37:27.680 --> 01:37:30.039
if it was done in Galicia Madrid, and Galicia Madrid, Galicia Madrid,

1598
01:37:30.039 --> 01:37:32.760
because Uncle kept working I' m
saying it to happen to work something like

1599
01:37:32.760 --> 01:37:34.960
a bastard. And there are things
that you' ve done very well,

1600
01:37:35.079 --> 01:37:40.720
but there are things that I find
fatal, because you' ve played games

1601
01:37:40.760 --> 01:37:44.640
to take things around filtering, for
example, that you just said the recordings

1602
01:37:44.760 --> 01:37:48.520
between the dungeons in which we have
type jewelry. Given time to do that,

1603
01:37:49.439 --> 01:37:53.319
not that it was paying right now
in a thousand euros to know what

1604
01:37:53.520 --> 01:37:58.199
that was She said in an interview
of the country, because she gave has

1605
01:37:58.239 --> 01:38:00.680
given some interviews being already in jail
with this scroll that had already ay jode

1606
01:38:00.680 --> 01:38:03.960
is that people are very ill thought. He also referred precisely to the e

1607
01:38:04.760 --> 01:38:11.279
- mails he sent him, because
he said that in those e- mails

1608
01:38:11.279 --> 01:38:14.119
he was fatal. And then,
of course, they were very concerned that

1609
01:38:14.239 --> 01:38:16.039
everything that had been, the infidelities, the remaining inventions, that they were

1610
01:38:16.159 --> 01:38:19.920
very concerned about, would be seen. The one they say was more preoccupied

1611
01:38:19.920 --> 01:38:26.640
by the apparent than by death.
Browsing when they empty their phones, it

1612
01:38:26.920 --> 01:38:30.199
is good that they discover that all
the conversations they had on the twenty and

1613
01:38:30.039 --> 01:38:33.640
twenty- first of September had been
erased, that was aunty. Please,

1614
01:38:34.039 --> 01:38:38.680
during all that conversation, if you
listen to it all the recordings that are

1615
01:38:38.760 --> 01:38:42.720
not integrated because there are hours,
but I listened to an egg and at

1616
01:38:43.239 --> 01:38:47.159
no time, uncle wonder what happened
to Nina nothing. Nothing is that since

1617
01:38:47.680 --> 01:38:49.800
there' s not a moment she
says she' s not coming back.

1618
01:38:50.279 --> 01:38:53.680
Isn' t Sunta coming back?
No, and Alfonso tells him he'

1619
01:38:53.840 --> 01:38:55.479
ll fall and the other one tells
him, of course, he' ll

1620
01:38:55.479 --> 01:38:59.960
fall. Who falls kairal who who. You don' t ask him at

1621
01:39:00.000 --> 01:39:03.119
any time and he looks murdered in
more than mysterious circumstances. What happened to

1622
01:39:03.199 --> 01:39:06.840
her and you, with your daughter' s father, don' t sweep

1623
01:39:08.399 --> 01:39:10.920
around like this to be this what
the fuck the girl was doing there.

1624
01:39:11.119 --> 01:39:14.640
At no time do they ask,
because if the theory really is that she

1625
01:39:14.720 --> 01:39:16.880
returned her to Santiago, who left
her close to home or such, at

1626
01:39:16.960 --> 01:39:20.199
no time do they wonder how she
got the girl back. Not sure,

1627
01:39:20.479 --> 01:39:26.159
it never happens and all the time
it' s the cantinela of why they

1628
01:39:26.319 --> 01:39:29.720
do this to us, why is
this happening to us? Something they have

1629
01:39:29.720 --> 01:39:32.039
what they do that they do here
that I don' t know what because

1630
01:39:32.039 --> 01:39:35.760
I want to tell you that there' s the narcissistic trait again, because

1631
01:39:35.920 --> 01:39:39.920
a little more is a little bit, that' s also the same thing

1632
01:39:39.920 --> 01:39:41.319
as pink pear yes, yes,
yes, yes. It seemed to me

1633
01:39:42.800 --> 01:39:45.319
urgent to say that the only thing
that worried him was that the image was

1634
01:39:45.359 --> 01:39:47.119
going to have the people of her. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He

1635
01:39:47.199 --> 01:39:50.720
wasn' t worried that there'
s a man underground, of course you

1636
01:39:50.720 --> 01:39:53.720
know, and scratching was worried.
He said good with Daniel Sancho, as

1637
01:39:53.880 --> 01:39:58.600
we are the same Daniel Sancho worried
and saying good this his father saying this

1638
01:39:58.680 --> 01:40:00.560
is an obtacle more than me,
for to me life yes, yes,

1639
01:40:00.840 --> 01:40:04.640
of course to you Sancho has,
well. The point is, he'

1640
01:40:04.680 --> 01:40:06.880
s got a very strange attitude.
At no time do they ask to see

1641
01:40:06.880 --> 01:40:10.439
the girl, they never see her
that yes, at the funeral she puts

1642
01:40:10.479 --> 01:40:14.399
to take pictures of the corpse,
that uses the display this, that puts

1643
01:40:14.439 --> 01:40:15.520
with the coffin and the flowers,
that it is one thing that is that

1644
01:40:15.560 --> 01:40:20.600
it is like what you want that
I that is super well that moment,

1645
01:40:20.760 --> 01:40:25.680
when super well it has done is
going super well because that moment of Alfonso

1646
01:40:26.039 --> 01:40:27.880
Look how beautiful, Look, how
beautiful have they put it? Look how

1647
01:40:27.920 --> 01:40:33.720
nice I' m going to Alfonso, look how beautiful they' ve left,

1648
01:40:34.079 --> 01:40:39.920
how scary aunt. But sharp,
he seems superstar, it' s

1649
01:40:40.039 --> 01:40:43.800
amazing that there' s a photo
of Alfonso where he comes out himself in

1650
01:40:43.800 --> 01:40:46.079
the reflection. So it' s
like super creepy the photo and that circle

1651
01:40:46.199 --> 01:40:50.000
by Mogollón media as well as the
killer parents. I don' t know

1652
01:40:50.000 --> 01:40:54.920
what. Tal. So, at
this point we have the two detainees.

1653
01:40:55.039 --> 01:40:58.439
They' re destroying the case to
take it now. It was, in

1654
01:40:58.479 --> 01:41:02.640
his view, a very thorough investigation. I mean, they didn' t

1655
01:41:02.720 --> 01:41:05.079
leave anything to be removed except a
couple of things that caught my eye like

1656
01:41:05.119 --> 01:41:08.920
the Yunkies' car. Well,
john Kis, they' re not sé,

1657
01:41:09.399 --> 01:41:12.680
well, but drunk. Yes,
I in my mind are John Kis.

1658
01:41:13.199 --> 01:41:18.000
I' m sorry, I beg, I' m sorry, Your

1659
01:41:18.039 --> 01:41:19.680
Honor, you' re the result
of those alleged Junkins. They don'

1660
01:41:19.680 --> 01:41:24.199
t look at him. Alfonso Basterra' s car, they don' t

1661
01:41:24.239 --> 01:41:26.239
look at the girl, they incinerate
her super fast. But it is true

1662
01:41:26.279 --> 01:41:29.239
that they keep their hair, which
is a very good idea, because then,

1663
01:41:29.359 --> 01:41:31.720
thanks to the hair, it is
when they take out the psychological exament,

1664
01:41:31.800 --> 01:41:35.199
by the way, the hair,
the asunta hair comes out in the

1665
01:41:35.239 --> 01:41:40.239
documentary that I do think, they
take out the hair really, because it

1666
01:41:40.279 --> 01:41:43.800
is that they either give you the
hair sign, that is, in itself

1667
01:41:43.920 --> 01:41:45.880
you have doubts that you know that
it is the hair day. That'

1668
01:41:45.960 --> 01:41:50.199
s all there was to it on
all levels. Horrible. Yeah, to

1669
01:41:50.279 --> 01:41:54.199
me, buff as a mother,
I would have uff give me everything to

1670
01:41:54.239 --> 01:42:00.439
think about it. Then one of
the things that is first is is to

1671
01:42:00.600 --> 01:42:02.880
be searched for how to receive on
the Alfonso floor is Alfonso' s computer,

1672
01:42:03.000 --> 01:42:06.600
because the photo had a laptop.
He was a person who wasn'

1673
01:42:06.640 --> 01:42:09.920
t actively working at the time.
But it' s true that he did

1674
01:42:09.960 --> 01:42:12.960
articles from time to time, and
well, it was his work tool.

1675
01:42:13.000 --> 01:42:15.000
And what happens that they go to
the house and the computer isn' t

1676
01:42:15.039 --> 01:42:16.800
there, there' s nothing.
It' s weird, not there,

1677
01:42:16.880 --> 01:42:19.640
there' s nothing. The Civil
Guard combs the floor, which is not

1678
01:42:19.720 --> 01:42:23.680
so big and does not have so
much revecos, it is not a gothic

1679
01:42:23.800 --> 01:42:28.720
mansion of dracula and they do not
find it. And then after some when

1680
01:42:28.840 --> 01:42:32.199
I already charo and Alfonso the legal
defense, in the beginning charo and of

1681
01:42:32.279 --> 01:42:34.680
all brave saying that she was already
going to be represented, that she was

1682
01:42:34.680 --> 01:42:36.680
already a lawyer. In the end, the jet style tells him to get

1683
01:42:36.760 --> 01:42:41.239
a lawyer or maja and in the
end he seeks a lawyer who had also

1684
01:42:41.319 --> 01:42:44.880
been a friend of the family and
who works in the same buffet with another

1685
01:42:44.960 --> 01:42:47.199
lawyer who was the one who assumed
Alfonso' s defense. So it wasn

1686
01:42:47.279 --> 01:42:50.880
' t a joint defense as such
was separate, that is, it didn

1687
01:42:50.880 --> 01:42:53.880
' t have the same lawyer,
but the team of lawyers was the same.

1688
01:42:54.000 --> 01:42:58.159
So to speak. Then they had
a non- joint, but they

1689
01:42:58.159 --> 01:43:00.920
had enough, they tried to help
each other. It was not going to

1690
01:43:01.000 --> 01:43:04.560
be a defense in which to frame
each other, for example, that we

1691
01:43:04.600 --> 01:43:09.479
have seen that in other cases as
well. Well, the City Guard,

1692
01:43:09.800 --> 01:43:12.800
in the City Guard, they'
ve blamed themselves on a moon. Of

1693
01:43:12.920 --> 01:43:15.520
course that' s another very curious
thing about this case that Jolin, who

1694
01:43:15.279 --> 01:43:19.840
already with charo dead Alfonso, can
already say what gives him to give him

1695
01:43:19.920 --> 01:43:24.359
shit on tip shovel and yet,
there it is clear saying that he will

1696
01:43:24.359 --> 01:43:26.479
serve the whole sentence, that they
are innocent, that he is, he

1697
01:43:26.560 --> 01:43:30.239
is not innocent. And the narcissistic
psychopaths, when they make a movie,

1698
01:43:30.319 --> 01:43:31.760
that movie to mass, they believe
it. Ah well, that' s

1699
01:43:31.840 --> 01:43:36.720
the move. Well, then,
we have nothing to investigate. Everything.

1700
01:43:38.359 --> 01:43:43.000
The computer disappears, the lawyer talks
to Alfonso and, because the reason that

1701
01:43:43.039 --> 01:43:45.039
is then the computer suddenly appears in
the living room, it is in the

1702
01:43:45.039 --> 01:43:48.840
middle of the living room, which
turns out Alfonso is going to leave the

1703
01:43:48.920 --> 01:43:51.119
floor, because the floor had rented
it. Then there comes a time when

1704
01:43:51.159 --> 01:43:55.479
you say look I call here I
have to long and see what happens.

1705
01:43:56.119 --> 01:44:00.720
So the lawyer says how Alfonso intends
to leave the rental flat and ask for

1706
01:44:00.760 --> 01:44:03.920
another search. So that record is
done a good will, the lawyer'

1707
01:44:03.960 --> 01:44:08.279
s request as if there was something
left and they get there and ups next

1708
01:44:08.359 --> 01:44:12.880
door. There' s all this. Let' s remember that the cremated

1709
01:44:12.920 --> 01:44:15.560
assuntalan and the ashes of the girl
were a year and a peak, I

1710
01:44:15.640 --> 01:44:19.119
believe in the tanatorium, because nobody
went to look for them, because to

1711
01:44:19.159 --> 01:44:24.439
see the version that they sell that
Charo' s lawyer said is that Charo

1712
01:44:24.600 --> 01:44:29.600
wanted to go look for them in
person, because she thought she was going

1713
01:44:29.680 --> 01:44:31.399
to leave acquitted of moon Lestia said
no one has to go her mother and

1714
01:44:31.479 --> 01:44:35.399
such a mother courage that it is
like a ok and in the end they

1715
01:44:35.479 --> 01:44:39.239
were picked up by a friend of
the family, who is also a little

1716
01:44:39.239 --> 01:44:41.279
distressing, that they die an heiress
ring. No yes, the arrival of

1717
01:44:41.319 --> 01:44:44.039
the heir family, that is another
subject. The girl who calls her the

1718
01:44:44.600 --> 01:44:48.680
heiress or the baby. Yes,
the east appears and what happens when Alfonso

1719
01:44:48.720 --> 01:44:53.079
' s mobile phone appears, Alfonso' s computer, and well they begin

1720
01:44:53.159 --> 01:44:56.239
to investigate, they all turn on
Alfonso' s computer. He had tried

1721
01:44:56.359 --> 01:44:59.960
to erase a lot of information,
but I' m going to make you

1722
01:44:59.960 --> 01:45:03.159
a recommendation. Stupid nation. If
you don' t want things caught,

1723
01:45:03.720 --> 01:45:05.720
don' t do them, of
course because they' re going to find

1724
01:45:05.720 --> 01:45:08.439
them. It' s just that
you don' t. Don' t

1725
01:45:08.520 --> 01:45:11.960
do it or do it on paper
and burn it at a fire. But

1726
01:45:12.039 --> 01:45:15.960
don' t do it, computerically, because the civil guard, the police

1727
01:45:15.079 --> 01:45:19.680
isn' t stupid, which is
a cool appreciation They take it all out,

1728
01:45:20.039 --> 01:45:20.520
they take it all out and they
take it all out. So,

1729
01:45:20.920 --> 01:45:24.680
yes, it' s true that
they didn' t manage to get some

1730
01:45:25.199 --> 01:45:28.079
things back, but most of them
were quite incriminating. For example, there

1731
01:45:28.920 --> 01:45:32.319
were a lot of super threatening chat
emails or a lot of things I'

1732
01:45:32.399 --> 01:45:36.000
d been spying on him. Then
the charo material was sung communicating with the

1733
01:45:36.800 --> 01:45:41.239
lovers. These ladies communicated a lot
by email. Yeah, it' s

1734
01:45:41.239 --> 01:45:43.359
one thing, a bit of a
surrendered baby. I get a lot of

1735
01:45:43.399 --> 01:45:45.920
attention from people who communicate by e- mails. Yeah, maybe it was

1736
01:45:45.920 --> 01:45:49.479
like a friend Whatsapp, maybe that
was it. I don' t know,

1737
01:45:50.319 --> 01:45:51.640
I don' t know why there
were whatsapps. It was two thousand

1738
01:45:51.640 --> 01:45:55.319
thirteen, but it was the beginning
of Whatsapp. I just got out,

1739
01:45:55.439 --> 01:45:57.359
I mean, still maybe. People
hadn' t gotten to him. I

1740
01:45:57.479 --> 01:45:59.359
don' t know, I don' t know. They were coming with

1741
01:45:59.359 --> 01:46:03.279
emails, they were talking about whatsapp, they were talking about whatsapp and they

1742
01:46:03.279 --> 01:46:04.960
already had gloves, because there are
people who communicate by mail. I don

1743
01:46:05.039 --> 01:46:06.840
' t know, I don'
t know. It' s already how

1744
01:46:06.920 --> 01:46:12.560
I communicate for him when I want
to leave a trail, what you understand,

1745
01:46:13.159 --> 01:46:14.560
what' s the least suitable when
you don' t want to.

1746
01:46:14.640 --> 01:46:17.640
It' s ad maestro that you' re involved in a murder or things

1747
01:46:17.640 --> 01:46:20.560
clear. So, then, in
those emails, they start at the het,

1748
01:46:20.760 --> 01:46:24.319
they start to retread what we'
re calling. The line of points

1749
01:46:24.399 --> 01:46:28.840
that is quite obvious in the sense
that and this is here my reconstruction of

1750
01:46:28.920 --> 01:46:32.720
what I think has happened is that
the two were conjectured in some way,

1751
01:46:32.960 --> 01:46:39.720
but with different intentions. In other
words, what she wanted was that in

1752
01:46:39.920 --> 01:46:44.680
the series she was told to get
rid of the last link she had with

1753
01:46:44.760 --> 01:46:46.000
Alfonso Charo Puerto. She wasn'
t a mother, and she wanted to

1754
01:46:46.000 --> 01:46:48.399
be the child She was going into
adolescence. She was even more inconvenient in

1755
01:46:48.399 --> 01:46:51.520
quotation marks, unbearable for her that
she was not what she told you before,

1756
01:46:53.079 --> 01:46:56.399
that she saw you being a very
intense child, of course, very

1757
01:46:56.720 --> 01:46:59.840
clear, very much occupied everything in
her life, occupied all the space of

1758
01:46:59.840 --> 01:47:02.960
hers and above all, was a
being that continued to join Alfonso Basterra and

1759
01:47:03.039 --> 01:47:04.760
she wanted to disassociate herself. Yeah, not Auntie, but you don'

1760
01:47:04.880 --> 01:47:11.479
t think fucking killing someone with someone
else is. It also links you to

1761
01:47:11.520 --> 01:47:14.960
that person You' re in his
hands. But she wasn' t thinking.

1762
01:47:15.359 --> 01:47:16.680
That' s what you and I
thought, that you were in possession

1763
01:47:16.680 --> 01:47:18.840
of our difficulties. This person wasn' t positioning. It' s clear

1764
01:47:18.880 --> 01:47:23.640
you remember that on Friday before killing
sunta, they were already tea with the

1765
01:47:23.920 --> 01:47:26.319
gifted businessman having a fucking time,
that I think it' s great that

1766
01:47:26.359 --> 01:47:28.279
people have a blast, but no
yes. Then you decide to kill your

1767
01:47:29.039 --> 01:47:31.680
daughter because you want to have even
more of a fucking time and she tells

1768
01:47:31.920 --> 01:47:35.960
the police. Aunty when you'
re under arrest for the death of your

1769
01:47:36.039 --> 01:47:40.239
daughter and the only thing she can
think of telling the Fado police a cigarette

1770
01:47:40.319 --> 01:47:43.840
is they' ve put me looking
for happier accounts in my life. I

1771
01:47:43.960 --> 01:47:46.880
' m full of it. I' m full of love, I'

1772
01:47:46.880 --> 01:47:49.680
m full of grandparents, I'
m full of everything I have for you.

1773
01:47:49.800 --> 01:47:53.319
You think it' s normal.
You have a daughter of a body

1774
01:47:53.399 --> 01:47:57.159
present who is not the cold corpse
yet and you are there singing the loas

1775
01:47:57.279 --> 01:48:01.520
of the gifted businessman and who loves
you or whether I love my life is

1776
01:48:01.520 --> 01:48:05.439
because this comes out, that it
is in the series yes, that says

1777
01:48:06.439 --> 01:48:10.840
this brutal, this, this is
a pure narrative and no no, not

1778
01:48:10.920 --> 01:48:17.159
that yes, is that the Royal
Civil Guard that comes out in the docu,

1779
01:48:18.079 --> 01:48:20.720
which is docu that is that it
is nailed to an American actress that

1780
01:48:21.039 --> 01:48:25.800
now I do not remember his name, that comes out in the wing of

1781
01:48:25.800 --> 01:48:26.760
the White House, that is equal
to Christine. Yeah, that' s

1782
01:48:27.319 --> 01:48:30.439
what Ponia was nominated for. Yes, yes, yes, yes, she

1783
01:48:30.640 --> 01:48:33.199
comes out and she explains it she
says that, of course, with one

1784
01:48:33.359 --> 01:48:38.840
face of this lady of course is
that she was telling me this an absolute

1785
01:48:38.840 --> 01:48:41.720
dissociation. I think I already had
it dissociated. He was a person who

1786
01:48:41.920 --> 01:48:45.199
had decades of mental health problems,
was a person who had a drug consumption,

1787
01:48:47.239 --> 01:48:57.399
but constant opioids of others. I
think she doesn' t really remember

1788
01:48:57.439 --> 01:49:00.760
me doing it or blocking it.
Let' s remember, maybe in the

1789
01:49:00.760 --> 01:49:03.199
back, I was drugging her,
too. I mean, either he had

1790
01:49:03.399 --> 01:49:08.439
the key was the gay keeper.
You know Alfonso, for his part,

1791
01:49:08.880 --> 01:49:12.880
was also ombord with the plan.
He found it cool because Alfonso, what

1792
01:49:13.000 --> 01:49:15.800
he thought was when the girl disappeared. Sure, he' s gonna come

1793
01:49:15.880 --> 01:49:19.199
back to my arms because he'
s gonna need me, because he'

1794
01:49:19.239 --> 01:49:20.600
s not gonna be able to,
he' s gonna be dusted. It

1795
01:49:20.880 --> 01:49:24.279
' s not gonna be dusted.
I' m going to have to comfort

1796
01:49:24.479 --> 01:49:28.640
her, I' m going to
be her knight- errant who cries her

1797
01:49:28.640 --> 01:49:30.800
handkerchief of comfort. Yes, and
unless I consoled her husband that I am,

1798
01:49:31.119 --> 01:49:33.680
because he thought it was that Santonie
David was that he thought they were

1799
01:49:33.720 --> 01:49:38.119
getting married. Yeah, yeah,
you know, yeah, he kept talking

1800
01:49:38.119 --> 01:49:41.560
about his best looks that were coming
back. They had long been divorced and

1801
01:49:41.640 --> 01:49:45.119
separated as a couple for a long
time. They hadn' t been a

1802
01:49:45.239 --> 01:49:48.239
couple to use as such and the
other and had had sex, I mean,

1803
01:49:48.399 --> 01:49:53.399
it' s not like I was
fucking around is that I' d

1804
01:49:53.520 --> 01:49:56.000
had boyfriends or be good with Mr
East of the Cajón. He spent a

1805
01:49:56.239 --> 01:50:00.079
minimum year with Mr del Cajón,
who remembers that when they looked at his

1806
01:50:00.199 --> 01:50:03.000
mobile history, when he started the
relationship with that gifted businessman Charo, he

1807
01:50:03.039 --> 01:50:10.760
looked at Google for how to make
a good blowjob goa chard or goo wow

1808
01:50:10.840 --> 01:50:16.479
chk s is another one of the
rare queen sosa oberate strange and sinister the

1809
01:50:16.520 --> 01:50:19.640
case why they don' t call
him to testify, because they said that

1810
01:50:19.640 --> 01:50:21.039
well, it was not relevant either. It' s not relevant. The

1811
01:50:21.079 --> 01:50:25.640
day before he was with him on
the yacht the day before he was with

1812
01:50:25.720 --> 01:50:30.159
him maybe he knew something uncle something
you know. I don' t know

1813
01:50:30.520 --> 01:50:31.920
You have this weird dream. You' ve dreamt who it is has power.

1814
01:50:32.279 --> 01:50:35.479
I think there' s a man
out there, but we' re

1815
01:50:35.600 --> 01:50:38.439
gonna say no to what we don' t want to be an entrepreneur of

1816
01:50:38.439 --> 01:50:43.199
everything. We want to run into
jail, not least in a carcegallega what

1817
01:50:43.239 --> 01:50:45.000
we lacked. I don' t
know if they' d let us in

1818
01:50:45.000 --> 01:50:47.680
on this step. Already in Winning
there is a persona non gratas and I

1819
01:50:47.720 --> 01:50:50.319
would like to go this summer I
am making a point. But now,

1820
01:50:51.359 --> 01:50:54.439
then, you have to go with
a mustache. I mean, yeah,

1821
01:50:54.840 --> 01:51:02.720
cr say gafan there Hello Like this
one I love the line I love the

1822
01:51:02.840 --> 01:51:19.920
nose. I say yes then,
yes, the seagull is my favorite animal.

1823
01:51:28.399 --> 01:51:34.039
Well, then we have two people
who were looking for a mutual end,

1824
01:51:35.000 --> 01:51:39.680
but for completely different reasons. I
think you both know the Dublin Termity

1825
01:51:39.800 --> 01:51:43.760
movie. I think the two of
you wanted to play the other one.

1826
01:51:44.119 --> 01:51:46.840
You know. I believe Char used
Alfonso to perpetrate the parties he could no

1827
01:51:46.880 --> 01:51:50.880
longer perpetrate. Probably Alfonso was the
one who loaded and the one who didn

1828
01:51:50.960 --> 01:51:54.760
' t know how good. Probably
not the Kideo who' s going to

1829
01:51:55.039 --> 01:51:56.359
do this, too, you'
re going to do it. Another one

1830
01:51:56.359 --> 01:52:00.279
is going to be that he did
the tests, the one who got the

1831
01:52:00.359 --> 01:52:03.359
clear caught and that he' s
going to see you you' re going

1832
01:52:03.359 --> 01:52:04.880
to pass by already thinking oysters.
When the girl isn' t in the

1833
01:52:04.960 --> 01:52:06.880
way, I' m going to
kick this one, which is that he

1834
01:52:06.880 --> 01:52:11.159
never sees my hair again and he
was, for his part, fucking saying.

1835
01:52:11.520 --> 01:52:14.960
This plan comes to me because then
I' ve got it all over

1836
01:52:15.079 --> 01:52:17.199
the place, it' s already
to see that you remember what it says

1837
01:52:17.199 --> 01:52:19.760
constantly in the faces. The important
thing is that we' re together and

1838
01:52:19.960 --> 01:52:23.079
that we love each other all the
time, all the time you' re

1839
01:52:23.079 --> 01:52:25.199
remembering him. I love you I
don' t know. He makes the

1840
01:52:25.279 --> 01:52:28.000
ball, he follows the ball,
because he doesn' t want me to

1841
01:52:28.000 --> 01:52:29.039
inculcate it. He tells him.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1842
01:52:29.239 --> 01:52:30.520
together, that' s why we
don' t have moguls. I don

1843
01:52:30.560 --> 01:52:33.560
' t know what bullshit. Yeah, it' s true that she looks

1844
01:52:33.680 --> 01:52:36.680
like a little step, that is, he looks super on top of it.

1845
01:52:38.359 --> 01:52:41.680
We love each other together and so
she never says it as much in

1846
01:52:41.800 --> 01:52:45.840
her place. Besides, it'
s like controlling the situation and she'

1847
01:52:45.600 --> 01:52:47.800
s not. She doesn' t
say. She just says no. Yeah,

1848
01:52:48.000 --> 01:52:50.600
well, okay, yeah, but
such, but I don' t

1849
01:52:50.600 --> 01:52:53.279
know that' s what' s
important. Yeah, yeah, yeah?

1850
01:52:53.439 --> 01:52:55.800
Yeah? Yeah? Yes, and
nothing good, then comes the judgment?

1851
01:52:56.600 --> 01:53:00.920
What we have said is good does
not give them the condition nor give them

1852
01:53:00.039 --> 01:53:02.199
absolutely anything, because the hecks Dain
says no, that there are danger of

1853
01:53:02.199 --> 01:53:03.960
escape, that there is risk of
escape, that I do not know what,

1854
01:53:04.359 --> 01:53:05.640
I do not know how many you
do not want to run risk.

1855
01:53:05.720 --> 01:53:11.399
Then they' re on remand until
the trial takes place. So is the

1856
01:53:11.439 --> 01:53:15.520
trial taking place? At the trial. Again they say a little weird things

1857
01:53:15.800 --> 01:53:18.239
like they contradict some like they'
ve invented new things. You know there

1858
01:53:18.319 --> 01:53:21.319
are things there that you say joy
mother. My uncle to more versions,

1859
01:53:21.399 --> 01:53:26.079
you know what the girl was doing
and so I don' t know what

1860
01:53:26.159 --> 01:53:31.399
at the trial at any time satisfactorily
vocal and I solve why the girl had

1861
01:53:31.520 --> 01:53:34.840
loracepan in the system, I mean, for example, Auntie I would have

1862
01:53:35.359 --> 01:53:39.199
said since again I don' t
want to solve in life the killers,

1863
01:53:39.520 --> 01:53:41.760
but I would have said best.
She made them clear, but at no

1864
01:53:41.840 --> 01:53:44.880
time, that is, when the
judge asks her, they don' t

1865
01:53:44.960 --> 01:53:47.720
say it the investigating judge, that
was another, she' s not in

1866
01:53:48.000 --> 01:53:53.279
the east judge of the trial asks
her why the girl had Benzo and makes

1867
01:53:53.359 --> 01:53:55.520
you think about the system. Charo
says I don' t know, I

1868
01:53:55.520 --> 01:53:56.800
don' t know. And Alfonso
says he doesn' t have it.

1869
01:53:56.960 --> 01:53:59.039
Sure, he says it' s
impossible, he doesn' t have them.

1870
01:54:00.000 --> 01:54:02.239
And one of the times and the
Fons they say I don' t

1871
01:54:02.239 --> 01:54:04.560
know. That has to be a
mistake. It' s impossible. This

1872
01:54:04.600 --> 01:54:09.680
is awesome. Then what' s
up? There is also another maximum distraction

1873
01:54:09.760 --> 01:54:12.560
element in this trial, which was
the Semen man not named by the series.

1874
01:54:12.920 --> 01:54:15.720
I' ll name him. The
man of Mr The girl' s

1875
01:54:15.760 --> 01:54:19.239
T- shirt had said two organic
white spots of the white camel' s.

1876
01:54:19.439 --> 01:54:26.159
Two organic stains send it to the
lab. Obviously, there is a

1877
01:54:26.319 --> 01:54:33.079
contamination between a test of one case
and another and then it is perfidious that

1878
01:54:33.159 --> 01:54:35.239
it does not. I' m
saying I didn' t have semen I

1879
01:54:35.319 --> 01:54:39.479
' m saying it wasn' t
this gentleman' s semen You know,

1880
01:54:39.880 --> 01:54:42.760
because this gentleman was a gentleman who
lived in Madrid And who blames a guy

1881
01:54:42.800 --> 01:54:45.279
who' s called the semen man
who at first picks up a lawyer who

1882
01:54:45.279 --> 01:54:45.720
looks like he' s gh VII, who' s wonderful. The semen

1883
01:54:45.840 --> 01:54:48.359
man' s lawyer, that'
s this subtitle they put on him.

1884
01:54:48.520 --> 01:54:53.039
It' s real on Rosa'
s ana I have the film capture The

1885
01:54:53.039 --> 01:54:55.039
semen is that they were. They
spent months on the subject of man.

1886
01:54:55.199 --> 01:54:57.359
Put the month on it' s
the name of serious. Of course,

1887
01:54:57.640 --> 01:55:01.840
the Guard Civilized an improbusive work to
prove that this gentleman, indeed, was

1888
01:55:01.920 --> 01:55:04.600
impossible for you to have such a
gaol. At the weekend, that man

1889
01:55:04.720 --> 01:55:11.359
had not been here. The thing
is, he' d had a sexual

1890
01:55:11.640 --> 01:55:14.039
assault complaint. Okay. What had
happened, apparently, was that he had

1891
01:55:14.039 --> 01:55:15.680
had a sexual relationship with one and
she, apparently, had announced to him

1892
01:55:15.760 --> 01:55:18.239
because she was jealous, because she
was going to marry her not that it

1893
01:55:18.359 --> 01:55:20.880
was, she had the complaint and
he said it was consensual. Yes,

1894
01:55:21.000 --> 01:55:24.960
yes, exactly, and then I
read it for forgiveness or that house.

1895
01:55:25.039 --> 01:55:27.359
Then he' s gonna put on
the groom' s suit. It'

1896
01:55:27.479 --> 01:55:30.560
s that weekend, so they have
proof that he' s been picking up

1897
01:55:30.560 --> 01:55:32.960
Trage Boyfriend. I mean, in
the store, they attest to him giving

1898
01:55:33.000 --> 01:55:36.199
the type X. It' s
very funny, because I think I remember

1899
01:55:36.319 --> 01:55:41.479
that one of the dependents says it' s an ugly deal so you remember

1900
01:55:41.600 --> 01:55:45.399
the role that was to go,
it was horrible the faith and nobody marries

1901
01:55:45.399 --> 01:55:51.399
this color. Which I remember,' cause it was someone else' s

1902
01:55:51.680 --> 01:55:57.000
suit already, well, you know. So they also have a photo with

1903
01:55:57.159 --> 01:55:59.680
a command of a restaurant where I' m either impossible or it wasn'

1904
01:55:59.800 --> 01:56:01.680
t him. It wasn' t
him at the time that the girl had

1905
01:56:01.680 --> 01:56:03.800
a hive on her shirt, because
maybe it was this man' s semen.

1906
01:56:03.920 --> 01:56:08.159
No. Then it is true that
they find in the body matter.

1907
01:56:08.199 --> 01:56:12.359
They find biological remains of six people, this is a move. They also

1908
01:56:12.439 --> 01:56:15.520
find remains of the mother, father, godmother, girl, sister, and

1909
01:56:15.640 --> 01:56:21.319
then I think there are two unidentified
yes. There they also find that this

1910
01:56:21.359 --> 01:56:25.560
was another accusation with Alfonso, in
the panties of the girl who has not

1911
01:56:25.560 --> 01:56:29.000
worn the mists of the girl.
They find the biological remains of Alfonso,

1912
01:56:29.079 --> 01:56:30.680
but to see that Alfonso was the
one who made the washing machines, because

1913
01:56:30.680 --> 01:56:34.159
it is also normal that slits of
falling a hair or something, then it

1914
01:56:34.199 --> 01:56:39.079
doesn' t have to be semen
you know what happens that they find Alfonso

1915
01:56:39.079 --> 01:56:43.720
' s computer. Aside from half
a million porn files, they find pictures

1916
01:56:43.720 --> 01:56:45.960
of Asunda a little weird does the
cabar. That' s from her mother

1917
01:56:46.159 --> 01:56:49.520
' s phone. Yes, they
had done it with her phone, but

1918
01:56:49.520 --> 01:56:54.479
they were on Alfonso' s computer
because he had dropped them. They were

1919
01:56:54.560 --> 01:56:58.000
in the possession of the parents.
There were pictures of the girl coming back

1920
01:56:58.560 --> 01:57:00.199
from Cabare' s end- of- course show or that I, those

1921
01:57:00.239 --> 01:57:03.560
pictures are true. They seem a
little weird to me, but I don

1922
01:57:03.640 --> 01:57:05.239
' t think it' s that
little look. It' s the usual.

1923
01:57:06.359 --> 01:57:10.239
The problem is not the photo itself. No. It' s not

1924
01:57:10.319 --> 01:57:12.039
so much whether you have the look
associated or not. No. No,

1925
01:57:12.079 --> 01:57:14.479
no, no, no. The
context is the dotted line. For me,

1926
01:57:14.800 --> 01:57:16.760
the problem is, look. I
am much more disturbed by the pictures

1927
01:57:16.800 --> 01:57:18.640
of the girl doing is a dead
one. No, no aunt, because

1928
01:57:18.720 --> 01:57:21.640
if your daughter later turns up dead. Indeed, because those pictures give me

1929
01:57:21.760 --> 01:57:25.239
as a cry. In fact,
I don' t take pictures of my

1930
01:57:25.359 --> 01:57:27.920
kids playing dead. You know,
it' s a little thing I don

1931
01:57:27.920 --> 01:57:29.239
' t love her. It'
s weird, weird, weird, of

1932
01:57:29.239 --> 01:57:31.600
course. In my entire life I
have seen at a funeral no one taking

1933
01:57:31.680 --> 01:57:34.840
pictures of your loved one' s
display to taboo. I don' t

1934
01:57:34.920 --> 01:57:39.439
know maybe you guys. Then you
send me a message for instagram and you

1935
01:57:39.439 --> 01:57:43.840
tell me, because I have the
photos of when Toby died my puppy,

1936
01:57:44.000 --> 01:57:45.760
because maybe it is because it seems
qut, but I don' t know

1937
01:57:45.880 --> 01:57:49.600
if your thirteen- year- old
daughter dies, brutally murdered and you can

1938
01:57:49.640 --> 01:57:55.439
take pictures of the coffin. There
are pictures of her as a medium,

1939
01:57:55.960 --> 01:58:00.600
not naked, but not dressed at
all, nor as doing strange things that

1940
01:58:00.439 --> 01:58:04.720
in Alfonso' s flat, that
there was nothing, nothing devoid, that

1941
01:58:04.840 --> 01:58:10.960
there were three dance costumes of the
girl that were on Alfonso' s nightstand,

1942
01:58:11.279 --> 01:58:14.399
that make the dance costumes, the
mayots of the girl on the plateau

1943
01:58:14.479 --> 01:58:17.119
of i e, there was nothing
of the girl, zero of the girl

1944
01:58:17.159 --> 01:58:21.039
had only appeared to be a brush
and the three dance costumes there were.

1945
01:58:21.279 --> 01:58:29.680
Of course it may be that the
civil guard in the investigation found things that

1946
01:58:30.119 --> 01:58:33.039
didn' t have to be removed
and maybe they saw things there that the

1947
01:58:33.720 --> 01:58:35.720
judge there said to Alfonso Basterra I
don' t know. Yeah, yeah,

1948
01:58:35.800 --> 01:58:39.079
yeah, maybe they saw things they
couldn' t get out of,

1949
01:58:39.239 --> 01:58:42.760
because at the time it wasn'
t being judged whether Alfonso was X and

1950
01:58:42.760 --> 01:58:45.439
Greek. He was being judged if
he was the killer of Asunta Basterra,

1951
01:58:45.800 --> 01:58:47.520
not another thing. Then they can' t mix, I mean, even

1952
01:58:47.600 --> 01:58:49.600
if they' d found him half
a kilo of heroin. At that time

1953
01:58:49.680 --> 01:58:51.920
you can' t do that,
I mean, you have to do it

1954
01:58:51.960 --> 01:58:56.800
another one that you' re there
with an order like that the judge,

1955
01:58:57.119 --> 01:59:00.880
by virtue of which you' re
looking for x gro and z not a

1956
01:59:00.920 --> 01:59:05.199
kilo of heroin is okay So,
during the extraction, you find all these

1957
01:59:05.359 --> 01:59:09.720
proofs that there had been things like
a little bit of weird stuff about the

1958
01:59:09.760 --> 01:59:10.880
basic care of the children, because
it was like that. The girl was

1959
01:59:11.000 --> 01:59:13.399
all day with the maid, who
was sorry for the assistant, which is

1960
01:59:13.479 --> 01:59:17.319
that she died. The girl was
super nidi like she wanted to play with

1961
01:59:17.359 --> 01:59:23.000
the parents. The parents passed on
to her and then we have numerous testimonies

1962
01:59:23.079 --> 01:59:27.319
in the months before the death of
Asunta, of teachers and colleagues talking about

1963
01:59:27.439 --> 01:59:30.880
very suspicious things, for example,
that drugged her or that were trying to

1964
01:59:30.880 --> 01:59:36.199
kill her, or the friend is
in French who says that she had already

1965
01:59:36.319 --> 01:59:40.880
seen that she was falling down the
hall of the class. Yeah, yeah,

1966
01:59:40.960 --> 01:59:43.800
yeah, the parents telling the milonga
that the girl was allergic, that

1967
01:59:43.880 --> 01:59:45.560
they were giving her tamanic antis when
it wasn' t true. Auntie,

1968
01:59:46.199 --> 01:59:51.520
it wasn' t true It was
ergistic. No, then all these things

1969
01:59:51.680 --> 01:59:56.399
set up one in which, because
I do, I think the parents were

1970
01:59:56.479 --> 02:00:00.680
involved still failing me things like I
wouldn' t see what time, because

1971
02:00:00.680 --> 02:00:01.920
if it' s true that I
see it weird, that is, the

1972
02:00:01.920 --> 02:00:04.279
body is. What is clear is
that at midnight he was there, that

1973
02:00:05.479 --> 02:00:08.520
they left him at 9: 30
in the afternoon. I just don'

1974
02:00:08.560 --> 02:00:11.479
t think it' s too much
for me, Auntie, because there'

1975
02:00:11.479 --> 02:00:13.239
s a lot of light at that
time. You know, it doesn'

1976
02:00:13.319 --> 02:00:14.600
t suit you that they left him. But if at 10: 30 they

1977
02:00:14.640 --> 02:00:17.119
were already in the police station,
to me what crackles me and a lot

1978
02:00:17.159 --> 02:00:20.800
is how fast, which is all
I want to say fast. Everything,

1979
02:00:21.039 --> 02:00:25.840
yes, yes, everything I don' t know since the denunciation, the

1980
02:00:25.920 --> 02:00:30.399
investigation, the trial, everything not, but I mean even death, that

1981
02:00:30.399 --> 02:00:33.760
is in the afternoon. It'
s just that I don' t know

1982
02:00:33.880 --> 02:00:36.319
at least if you' re not
an expert killer, that is, if

1983
02:00:36.439 --> 02:00:41.560
you' re the first time you' ve got any blocking happening to you,

1984
02:00:41.840 --> 02:00:45.039
you have to have that or you' re going the way you'

1985
02:00:45.159 --> 02:00:47.600
re going is that it' s
all pin pan boom pim boom very fast,

1986
02:00:47.600 --> 02:00:47.600
that is, you don' t
even have time to freeze, to

1987
02:00:47.600 --> 02:00:50.359
stay paralyzed saying what I' ve
done. I don' t know everything

1988
02:00:50.760 --> 02:00:58.119
as very hasty already. Aunty already
arrive at 9: 30, minus 20

1989
02:00:58.199 --> 02:01:00.880
and at 10: 30 they are
already in the police station girl wait a

1990
02:01:00.960 --> 02:01:02.479
bit do like you' ve looked
a little good. You didn' t

1991
02:01:02.479 --> 02:01:04.359
call that. He called. Wanted
to see if she' s with the

1992
02:01:04.399 --> 02:01:05.920
godmother, see if she' s
gone to town. Sometimes she' s

1993
02:01:06.039 --> 02:01:10.239
gone, but of course she'
s already dented. We leave that that

1994
02:01:10.279 --> 02:01:13.520
' s why the judge there said
to jail I don' t care about

1995
02:01:13.520 --> 02:01:17.640
the dungeon. The mother is in
a brutal contradiction. The mother says I

1996
02:01:17.720 --> 02:01:20.560
left her doing her homework. How
many times you say it and then it

1997
02:01:20.560 --> 02:01:21.920
doesn' t count. Eighty-
five, zero times he tells everyone,

1998
02:01:23.039 --> 02:01:26.560
the girl. I let him do
it I said goodbye. I said goodbye

1999
02:01:26.560 --> 02:01:28.720
with my hand. I told Sonta
I' m leaving and she' s

2000
02:01:28.800 --> 02:01:30.159
already on the floor. Yeah,
yeah, yeah. And then, all

2001
02:01:30.199 --> 02:01:32.119
of a sudden it' s like
uy isn' t that Mira has forgotten

2002
02:01:32.119 --> 02:01:35.039
that she wanted to come with me. So my impression is that they'

2003
02:01:35.079 --> 02:01:41.039
re both beat. They were both
in onit but it' s not exactly

2004
02:01:41.079 --> 02:01:43.840
how far. And it is the
part of the body' s deposit that

2005
02:01:43.920 --> 02:01:48.840
fails me, that is, there
may have been another third person involved,

2006
02:01:49.119 --> 02:01:51.560
but and why they have not involved
them, of course, or women.

2007
02:01:51.960 --> 02:01:56.399
There' s another last option,
which is that, maybe it was a

2008
02:01:56.520 --> 02:02:00.720
serial session that was going through the
area is that that never saved. You

2009
02:02:00.960 --> 02:02:03.560
also don' t know that that
test is the rest of the DNA that

2010
02:02:03.720 --> 02:02:05.960
there' s the girl of an
unconfirmed male, that the identity is unconfirmed.

2011
02:02:06.600 --> 02:02:09.720
Males in the girl' s life
were gone because Grandma had died.

2012
02:02:10.399 --> 02:02:13.439
There was only the father, and
the father is there. Denho, you

2013
02:02:13.479 --> 02:02:15.920
mean that it can be, that
it can be, that they are,

2014
02:02:15.520 --> 02:02:18.039
that they were innocent, because I
don' t know. Auntie is that

2015
02:02:18.199 --> 02:02:24.680
we don' t really know the
evidence you know what' s going on,

2016
02:02:25.319 --> 02:02:28.880
that the problem is that it'
s that, that is, there

2017
02:02:29.039 --> 02:02:31.920
comes a moment that just for pure
survival to get out of there and blame

2018
02:02:32.000 --> 02:02:38.479
the other one like that, because
look is that the thing is that Rosario

2019
02:02:38.760 --> 02:02:42.399
is dead or it is he could
perfectly frame her, frame her, throw

2020
02:02:42.439 --> 02:02:44.600
her down but he doesn' t
want to because you don' t,

2021
02:02:44.600 --> 02:02:44.600
because he gives already, because no, because he' s a psycho narcissist.

2022
02:02:45.680 --> 02:02:47.760
I believe and believe the film you
told about my child needs me.

2023
02:02:49.079 --> 02:02:51.920
You know the letter he sent,
which he said as soon as he got

2024
02:02:53.000 --> 02:02:55.840
out of jail and paid my penalty. Yes, I' m going to

2025
02:02:55.960 --> 02:02:59.239
take my life and this is going
to stay in your conscience and I'

2026
02:02:59.319 --> 02:03:01.359
m going to go with my little
girl, who needs me to fucking touch

2027
02:03:01.479 --> 02:03:05.359
your balls and the mother also put
one is that we remember that she spent

2028
02:03:05.479 --> 02:03:10.760
every year until she died in the
paper saying I will always love you,

2029
02:03:10.960 --> 02:03:14.039
Mom published her the lawyer, Yes, the day of death and the jack

2030
02:03:14.119 --> 02:03:15.680
on the birthday, not a nice
day on the day of the death of

2031
02:03:15.680 --> 02:03:18.560
the asunta. Mom, I'
ll always love you I' ll always

2032
02:03:18.680 --> 02:03:23.279
love you Mom and nothing then,
because that' s finally the jury that

2033
02:03:23.319 --> 02:03:25.640
there was a fucking move, because
it was impossible to find Galicia in you

2034
02:03:25.720 --> 02:03:29.479
someone who wasn' t completely prejudiced
by the impossible case. In the end

2035
02:03:29.520 --> 02:03:33.880
they got it the popular game declared
them guilty because since there is no patient

2036
02:03:33.880 --> 02:03:38.319
proof of the moment of the murder, it is true that absolutely everything with

2037
02:03:38.359 --> 02:03:41.199
rope and there are so many contradictions
and so many stories. We used to

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mention it a lot earlier, but
little, but not without evidence, of

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02:03:44.960 --> 02:03:46.680
course, but other times we'
ve had cases that we' ve said

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02:03:46.680 --> 02:03:50.359
these initials. The dotted line doesn' t come out, it doesn'

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02:03:50.399 --> 02:03:53.000
t make you clear, but in
this fucking case there was no other one.

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02:03:53.079 --> 02:03:58.399
Then they send them to jail.
It' s been a few years,

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02:03:59.479 --> 02:04:00.000
or I' m out of porto
He' s trying to kill himself

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02:04:00.000 --> 02:04:01.039
a couple of scumbags. Or well
there were other companies that say it was

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02:04:01.079 --> 02:04:03.119
a bit of a man' s
attention call at least. Twice, they

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02:04:03.520 --> 02:04:08.239
don' t change her jail.
Twice in addition, she is also changed

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02:04:08.239 --> 02:04:12.039
from prison because of this super lienta. There is a prisoner who accuses her

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02:04:12.159 --> 02:04:15.720
of undressing, the one before the
window for the guards to see because she

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02:04:15.760 --> 02:04:18.399
has them totally subjugated, which was
a little pantoja. They say he was

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02:04:18.439 --> 02:04:23.359
a little bit of a, super
nice and super like, but when text

2051
02:04:23.439 --> 02:04:26.079
put it in you, you know
he was super chunga. By the way,

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02:04:26.319 --> 02:04:30.000
it was sagittarius. This yes,
the finding out and in the end

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02:04:30.079 --> 02:04:31.239
it gets it. By the way, Brieva' s vision. I think

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02:04:31.359 --> 02:04:35.239
just when Iñak was here and really
yes, yes, I was going in

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02:04:35.319 --> 02:04:39.840
there too that we remember that Brievas, a women' s prison, was

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02:04:40.079 --> 02:04:42.520
all women in Iñakir, in a
dangarin, in a model. Only when

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02:04:42.560 --> 02:04:45.159
he entered Iñaki, Iñaki, who
was five years ago and I think he

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02:04:45.199 --> 02:04:47.720
went that way, in nineteen.
It would be a match, they agreed,

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02:04:47.960 --> 02:04:53.800
sure, sure, because she committed
suicide in two thousand twenty and was

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02:04:53.880 --> 02:04:56.880
already in that prison and he believed
that the pandemic, so it was,

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02:04:57.000 --> 02:05:00.760
must have happened to her. Imagine, he kills himself, I think,

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02:05:00.960 --> 02:05:04.920
with a towel or a sheet.
Anyway, well, the inheritance is a

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02:05:05.039 --> 02:05:10.439
move of hell, because it has
quite a lot of properties and it has

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02:05:10.520 --> 02:05:12.760
enough money and in the end it
has left a friend of hers who is

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02:05:12.840 --> 02:05:16.079
called the baby, and another gentleman
who was another friend who he renounced the

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02:05:16.079 --> 02:05:18.359
inheritance. He said he didn'
t want it, because what move?

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02:05:18.600 --> 02:05:23.560
Let us remember that Alfonso left him
nothing, nothing zero balls that I believe

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02:05:23.600 --> 02:05:26.399
is another reason why Alfonso does not
fight for his innocence or to leave there,

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02:05:26.439 --> 02:05:28.439
because he says look at at least
here they have me to eat talent

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02:05:28.560 --> 02:05:30.479
and but that is also reason to
blame her in plan, to get revenge

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02:05:30.560 --> 02:05:35.880
on her already and remember that Alfonso
is in a module of looking mentally ill

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02:05:36.600 --> 02:05:41.800
too that is also quite curious you
know, because it has not really been

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02:05:41.840 --> 02:05:45.439
shown that this person has a mental
illness and they have him with the people

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02:05:45.439 --> 02:05:48.479
who are very, very badly mending
and how many minos to keep him away

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02:05:48.479 --> 02:05:53.680
from the others, because considering the
moment by the mentally ill can also be

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02:05:53.680 --> 02:05:58.119
dangerous, not all, but some
can continue. They' re no more

2077
02:05:58.159 --> 02:06:00.640
dangers So that, and well,
there' s been a lot of media

2078
02:06:00.640 --> 02:06:02.199
repens. There have been eighty-
five billion podcasts of a documentary series.

2079
02:06:02.640 --> 02:06:05.640
I don' t know what and
here' s our little contribution today,

2080
02:06:06.119 --> 02:06:10.520
our perception of what you think of
this fact. It' s just that

2081
02:06:10.600 --> 02:06:13.800
it' s good with our offer
to resolve the case. What do you

2082
02:06:13.800 --> 02:06:15.920
think? I' ve stayed to
like to get rid of all this.

2083
02:06:16.479 --> 02:06:23.439
I mean, I feel liberated because
we' ve been here for a week,

2084
02:06:23.840 --> 02:06:26.600
we had to get free. You
see that they' re guilty,

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02:06:26.600 --> 02:06:29.239
too. Of course the rolelist.
I think I told you that I was

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02:06:29.319 --> 02:06:32.960
as clear as I was when it
happened that yes, of course, the

2087
02:06:33.039 --> 02:06:36.600
girl was clearly getting in the way
of it, but as I' ve

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02:06:36.640 --> 02:06:39.479
been reading more and I' ve
seen the series, that is, as

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02:06:39.520 --> 02:06:44.199
I' ve gotten more into the
case, I' ve had more doubts,

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02:06:44.439 --> 02:06:46.680
that is, in the end I
have a mental ball because it'

2091
02:06:46.680 --> 02:06:47.720
s true that it' s like
uncle, but it' s really the

2092
02:06:47.720 --> 02:06:49.399
best solution to kill her. That' s what everybody did. If you

2093
02:06:49.399 --> 02:06:54.439
get in your way, you send
her to boarding school, she' s

2094
02:06:54.479 --> 02:06:55.399
already horrifying, and they had money, uh, to do that. Yeah,

2095
02:06:55.479 --> 02:06:58.800
sure, I don' t know, you have to be a very

2096
02:06:58.840 --> 02:07:01.680
horrible person to do that. I
already believe that Alfonso is going to terrorize

2097
02:07:01.720 --> 02:07:03.880
a abuser that that has not been
commented much, that he was a person

2098
02:07:03.920 --> 02:07:08.319
who was a psychological and physical abuser
there. So, if there' s

2099
02:07:08.359 --> 02:07:11.760
a woman who' s got that
pressure on this guy and then he'

2100
02:07:11.760 --> 02:07:14.439
s desperate because he' s unsympathetic, he looks like he' s gonna

2101
02:07:14.439 --> 02:07:15.039
stay on the fucking street with his
ass in the air. He' s

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02:07:15.039 --> 02:07:16.760
not gonna be Charoporto' s husband
anymore, which is what he liked,

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02:07:16.920 --> 02:07:21.000
because he' s a narcissistic psychopath. Well, I' ll be a

2104
02:07:21.119 --> 02:07:27.560
good guy when we publish the podcast, because the great ones who tell us

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02:07:27.640 --> 02:07:30.479
what you think all your theories look
like, which fits you what doesn'

2106
02:07:30.479 --> 02:07:31.960
t. You do see the show, the documentary is fine too if you

2107
02:07:32.039 --> 02:07:34.199
want to see it. There are
several podcasts that put a lot. There

2108
02:07:34.239 --> 02:07:38.119
are some who are fucking shit,
but there are others who people analyze the

2109
02:07:38.159 --> 02:07:41.479
case very well and nothing that you
tell us that you think if we have

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02:07:41.520 --> 02:07:46.039
missed some data. This time we
had a document yes all with very nice

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02:07:46.039 --> 02:07:53.680
notes, like how they make a
mom on Google Seart that good look what

2112
02:07:53.720 --> 02:07:57.960
you bring her. Oh, my
God He' s got the businessman giving

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02:07:58.239 --> 02:08:01.840
him a lot of money We'
re leaving him for today. I think

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Galicia already has a special terror.
It' s fine now and it'

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02:08:05.319 --> 02:08:07.520
s up to the next one,
that you follow us on social networks,

2116
02:08:09.039 --> 02:08:11.439
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2117
02:08:11.439 --> 02:08:16.279
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2118
02:08:16.359 --> 02:08:18.199
of micro donations that comes great to
us. If you want to support us

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02:08:18.279 --> 02:08:22.199
with a coffee or something, it' s cool, so nothing. Thank

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02:08:22.279 --> 02:08:24.319
you very much. Star until the
next time, a little kiss comes to

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02:08:24.399 --> 02:08:28.399
the next. Beware of your kalen
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