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The following present is Del Marvi Studios
Production. Welcome back truth seekers from around

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the world. It's time for another
edition of The Flat Earth Files. I

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hope this podcast you well. My
guest Eric and I have been working through

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the technical monsters have attacked me today, so shout out to the NSA.

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Thanks for trying to ruin this interview, but we have averted disaster and we're

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ready to go. One quick housekeeping
note before we do get started, of

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course, is if you'd like to
join the show like Eric is today,

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please shoot us an email. It's
the flat Earth Files at gmail dot com

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and we'll get you on the schedule
to be scheduled. So again, we

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have a great guest standing by.
We've corresponded for quite some time, joining

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us from the great state of Utah. It's Eric. Eric. How are

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you doing today? Doing great,
George, Thanks for having me. Yeah,

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and thank you for your patience,
Sarah, as the NSA tries to

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roll me up. What a day, but it's great to have you,

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and please do take a moment and
introduce yourself to the audience. Oh,

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like you said, I'm from you, Tom. We do have that a

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big, brand new NSA center out
here, so I probably gotten me forty

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two, born and raised in Salt
Lake. Beautiful family, have two daughters

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eleven and five, and a step
son who's twenty seven. Beautiful wife.

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My step son works with me.
I've been fortunate enough to travel all over

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quite a few places. I used
to brag when I was younger that when

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I was eighteen, had been to
more places than Columbus. Right, I

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don't know that's true or not,
but we don't know I know if that

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history is true or not. Yeah, Christopher Columbus, there's your CC thirty

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three I joke about all the time. I'm sure that's far right. That's

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another one of the stories we'll talk
about that they use to reinforce the globe

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system. Right, he woulded to
prove that you just wouldn't fall over the

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edge. And well, of course, even with our theory, there's no

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falling off the edge. But big
shout out to you for working with your

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son. As I was saying before
we got kind of disconnected, was some

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of my fondest memories growing up was
working for my grandfather. He was self

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employed, had a used car a
lot, and it's great because at the

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same time you learn life lessons,
life lessons and mold your mind. And

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you know, we often talk about
how we send our children off to the

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indoctrination factories for thirty five hours a
week. It's great to have the children

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and mold their minds instead of complete
strangers molding their minds. Right, Yeah,

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for sure, my kids do go
to public school. My daughter likes

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to my oldest daughter, my eleven
girl, likes to listen to what I

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say. Kind of, I think
my steps on he's we've been together for

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twelve years now. I met him
when he was fifteen and he was pretty

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already indoctrinated and he's kind of one
of those new age kids in that way.

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But gotcha, it is what it
is, what it is. Yeah,

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everybody has their own journey. But
it's great that you have his ear,

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what you know, forty hours a
week or whatever it may be,

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that's for sure. Tell us a
little bit about your journey to the truth.

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At what point in your life did
you start to notice things, as

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we say, differently than the average
Joe did. So, I was exposed

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pretty young. My parents were divorced, so I would spend a week with

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my mom and week with my dad. They had custody, and my home

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base was my great grandmother's house where
I would kind of get exchanged. She

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was a Lutheran. She was the
first born generation over here from Sweden,

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so I went to a little bit
of church with her, growing up from

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probably by like four or five years
old till I was like six seven or

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eight, not very often, just
every once in a while. My father,

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he was just too young to get
drafted into Vietnam. So one of

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his favorite stories was him and his
buddy burning their draft cards. And he

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actually kind of got me into the
JFK, you know, conspiracy. And

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so one of our cousins his his
his father, my grandfather hurt his cousin

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direct cousin. She's married to an
ex Secret Service agent, really, and

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he was there that day, and
you know, my dad would always try

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and feed him some beers and get
him to steal the beat and stuff,

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and he and he wasn't in on
the plan, so he doesn't know sure,

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and he wouldn't tell us if he
did anyway, And all he would

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ever tell us was that the morning
of the whole plan changed. They had

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everything set out as you already know, the route changed. His detail because

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I think they're like in little groups, like little teams. His team was

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supposed to be on Kennedy's car they
got stationed at the airport to wait for

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the caravan, and so all he
knows is that, you know, nothing

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went according to plan and it all
went to hell, But you know it's

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all just a coincidence, right right, Yeah, drop in the bucket,

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for sure, Yeah, for sure. And again that is something. And

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I'll tell you, I've been listening
to a lot of people and I'm starting

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to hear the frustration. I think
everything that's going on for the last three

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or four years has bothered people a
lot. But I've noticed over the last

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month that these general frustrations are slowly
starting to turn into anger. And a

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lot of that goes back to that
very day eleven twenty two. There's for

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thirty three, nineteen sixty three,
in which you know, you can argue

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some conspiracies, right that maybe there's
some great areas with them, but the

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fact that the entire story of JFK, from the way he was shot,

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the number of shots where they came
from, everybody running to the grass,

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you knowal that the police getting killed
that day. Jack rubin Stein by the

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way, it's his name's not Jack
Ruby, it's Jack rubin Stein. You

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know, just was able to walk
up and kill the guy who did it

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in Lee Harvey Oswald saying, look, man, I'm a patsy. I

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mean, he came out, he
knew he was thrown under the bus by

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the government, and to me to
this day, to allow everybody who was

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involved, from Poppy Bush to the
CIA, maybe to some of the mobsters

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down there in New Orleans, and
of course the three what were those three

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guys called the the hoboes on the
street or well they had a name for

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the three guys who were originally arrested, and then of course they were gone

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just like nine to eleven, right, they arrested that van full of Israelis

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full of dynamite and just nothing to
see here, and they sent them all

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back to Israel. There's just so
many things that go on with these huge

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conspiracies, whether it's nine eleven or
Oklahoma City, and we just they always

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get away with it. And that's
I think people are starting to really get

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frustrated with. You know, the
big thing now is they're taking a certain

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someone off the ticket in all these
states and those two world, words coming

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back up that haven't been heard since
eighteen sixty five or starting to rear their

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ugly head. I'm seeing it even
at the local country store down the street

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where we got our bread and stuff
from. Everybody's just tired of the citizens

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being last in this country. Yeah, And it's like with JFK. It

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happened so long ago. People are
like, Oh, what does it matter

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now, and it's like, well, that's what's set up everything to go

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on now, that's what put them
in positions to do, like a nine

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to eleven. So yeah, when
I was probably I don't remember when the

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Thepruder film came out, I was
probably around eight or nine or ten,

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and one of my neighbors got a
copy or it saw some of it on

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heraldo or whatever, and I remember
him, you know, he was a

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year younger than me, a little
boy, and he was talking about it

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and he was like, oh,
it was the Driver. It was the

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Driver. And I remember us watching
it and stuff. And then got older,

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and one of the things that really
woke me up was Ross Perot when

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he gave that whole speech when he
was running for president, and I was

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just a child, and I was
like, wow, this whole system is

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rigged. It's all bs like it's
not real. They're just playing us both

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sides, like you always say,
two wings of the same bird. That's

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right, then, Y two K
never really did anything. I was kind

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of I was young for that.
I just graduated high school in ninety nine,

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and so I didn't really have any
money or anything to lose by that.

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I took a year off after high
school, went to college, dropped

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out, almost joined the Marines.
I had a bunch of recruiters after me,

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and then I kind of got into
it with one of the recruiters,

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which I'm glad I didn't. He
probably would have wasted me. And he

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just wouldn't leave me alone. He
came to my work one day and wow,

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this was all over me to get
me to join, and we got

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into it, and his partner there
separated us and gave me that look like

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you don't want any of that,
and I'm like, yeah, I probably

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don't. And this is still pre
nine to eleven at this point, right,

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Yeah, this was in in two
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then nine to eleven happened, and
that you know, I knew something was

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wrong about I knew I was like
they let this hap. I just something

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wasn't right. I'd been to the
Pearl Harbor Museum as a child in Hawaii

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there and just it didn't sit well
with me. And then I was really

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worried the next year because Salt Lake
City got the Winter Olympics. So I

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was afraid that something was going to
happen here in the Olympics to like further

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it, you know, because when
the Patriot Act and all that stuff came

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out and saying, oh, they're
going to keep pushing this, to really

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get it locked down and get it, you know, this new world order

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that they want. And nothing happened. The Olympics went pretty smooth, and

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then we had the you know,
being Salt Lake here and not being a

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Mormon, it's you're always the outcast. My father's always owned bars and restaurants,

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and so I was always one of
the kids that you couldn't play with

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or could play with at a distance. Nobody wanted me to date their their

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daughters. And it's just and and
looking into that, I know that that's

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it's just an arm of the Freemason
organizations, just disguised as a religion for

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control. And most of the Mormon
people are great people like every other you

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know, and they have no idea
what goes on at the top because it's

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that's how it is. You're either
in the club or you're not. That's

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right, And they just use everybody
as their bank role and their servants.

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And so then when COVID happened,
I was working at a grocery store,

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was working at a Kroger store at
Smith's, and so we were essential,

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so it never really affected me,
you know, they I had to wear

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masks for a while. We our
store was kind of lenient, kind of

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not and my department, I was
doing the online shopping, so I would

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feel people's pick up grocery orders right
right, And so I was there early

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in the morning before the store opened, so we could kind of get away

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with not following the rules and stuff. And but COVID really did a number

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on my family. It really split
everybody apart. It really, you know,

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those that got it and those that
didn't, and those that wanted to

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play the game and those that didn't. And it really my side of the

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family, like my intermediate mom and
dad not so much, but like my

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mom's brother and some of the other
people in the family really put a damper

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on things and separated and hurt some
Christmases and stuff like that. And I've

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just never been like I had been
into like medications and big farming vaccines,

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but not that much. And then
COVID woke me up and then it was

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like what did I do to my
children when they were born? And some

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of their first year school shots?
And it just that's one of my biggest

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regrets and heartbreaks, Like like I
said, they're never getting anything ever again,

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one of those things. It's just
like, oh my gosh. And

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like the other thing about nine to
eleven was when it was that Architects documentarying

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stuff and theext and Engineers for nine
to eleven truth yeap, that BYU professor

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that came out and said a bunch
of stuff about the thermite and the metal

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and the temperatures and stuff that was
like a huge eye opener. And after

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that time, from from two thousand
and two till like I don't know,

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fourteen fifteen sixteen, I had a
friend that an acquaintance of a friend that

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he made a lot of those DVDs
they'd passed around, you know, the

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Obama deception. That's all the different
Truther videos. So I was getting a

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lot of those and watching them and
Zeitgeist and all that, and so I

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was pretty awake, but I was
pretty still kind of asleep on the medical

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stuff. And then you know,
COVID kind of woke that up, and

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I was still pretty asleep on flat
Earth until a few years ago when I

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really did a deep dive on it, because like everybody else, I was

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into space. I was hoping to
you know, I was into Star Wars.

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I was into all that. And
like I said, if they're honors

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from children and the globes everywhere,
and the indoctrination is just deep. That's

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why Hollywood is so important to them. With the fascination of the fantasy movies,

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whether it be Star Trek or Star
Wars. This is another layer between

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taking the red pill and continuing on
living life obliviously right, because we don't

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want to lose those things that are
so near and dear to our hearts.

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I mean, I was a Star
Wars kid in the theater back in what

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seventy seven, seventy eight, whenever
it was the first Star Wars I saw

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it, and I remember leaving there
and dreaming of being in an X wing

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fighter and flying and I mean that
is just again, this goes back to

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World War Two and one of the
biggest things that National Socialist Germany did have

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was psychological operations, and they had
some you know, all of the people

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that they brought over from not warp
Speed operation paper Clip. These people understood

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psychology big time. Going back to
Edward Burneze, they understand the most powerful

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tool isn't weapons of mass destruction,
it's the mind. And if you can

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manipulate someone's mind, you can basically
control them just like a TV controller,

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you can actually control their path in
life. And they figured that out,

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I believe at the turn of the
century, a hunt and some you know

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years ago, and with the advent
of the television, it was a game

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on at that point. And now
we see today, like you said,

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with Star Wars and everything else,
it has built continuous layers between the truth

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and you know, people's daily lives. Is they just I'm not even I

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think for a lot of people out
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up. And like you said,
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get so many emails saying exactly that, right, COVID woke me up.

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half of them mentioned COVID being a
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I think there's still a lot of
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be bothered with being awake because it
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sure it did for you as well. Yeah, And like I said,

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I was awake to a few things
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of stirred the pot to really do
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stuff. And there are masters of
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my generation. You know, I
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am or so. And in our
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so many atheists, so many scientists and

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people and not wanting to have families. Why would I want to bring a

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child into this world? It's too
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my wife was pregnant, and then
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same thing. I've told so many
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have children. You know, after
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new level of love, like a
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It's just I don't know, a
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when I had my first child,
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none of us have all of our
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on fighting that good fight. And
I think it was his name was John

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a few episodes back that marine,
that was becoming a pastor and then changed,

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like it was just so cool to
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of life that I had and then
about to be a pastor and be involved

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in the church. But think about
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whole life. I've always thought it
shouldn't be this like dictatorship, this one

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head telling everyone what it says,
how it interprets, how it translates,

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what they're supposed to read about it, what they're supposed to think. I've

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always felt it should be a discussion. It should be everyone what their take

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is on it. You know,
it should be a group discussion. Everyone's

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there, everyone's going to read something
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five year old car salesman dude,
fifty year old banker dude, eight year

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old little Johnny, you know,
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and that's just kind of seemed what
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the disciples and people were spreading the
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a discussion and an explanation like that
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he was sent to do that,
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people have just gone off that message
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instead of you know, praising,
thinking and worshiping him in the way he

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should be and following the message and
worshiping God the correct way. And it's

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just super frustrating that way. You
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I think I mentioned this on a
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the Puritans came over here, you
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mayflower and everything. They their primary
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of religion, and their their daily
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and then you know that was number
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afterwards, but everything evolved around the
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has been flipped exactly. And then
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Freemasons come in and I'm talking about
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guys who who who are depicted in
our history books as these good guys,

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team good guys. But what they
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you just somebody just sat up in
their cubicle at work. What right you

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talk about George Washington? Listen,
these people took Remember the Puritans came over

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here that they didn't claim a constitution
for freedom of speech. God gave them

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their freedom of speech and they knew
that. So these Freemasons come over and

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you know, they you know,
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not God that gives you your freedoms. It's us. It's man, and

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we have this constitution, this deal
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we guarantee you your freedoms. Yep. Now, two hundred and fifty years

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later and it listened. This country
was free from about you know if you

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want to count the revolution seventeen seventy
six or seventeen eighty seven, choose your

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date whenever you consider us being free
until about eighteen twelve, when the very

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first time the banks their ugly head. And if you want to know who's

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running things in this country right now, look no further than your black Rocks,

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your vanguards, and you're JP Morgan's
this is It's interesting how the American

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media portrays the Russian oligarchs to be
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in this country. It's no different
anywhere else around the world. What are

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your thoughts on that? Oh,
yeah, they always blame everyone else for

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the same thing that they're doing.
That dang old usury and debt system.

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what's on Washington's gravestone, it's about him

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being a freemason, not the president. It's just you've brought it up before

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on both podcasts. The history,
Like how can we believe the history?

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Like all the good guys won every
war, and it's like, I don't

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think the Civil War, I think
the bad guys probably won. I think

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who knows, you wont But the
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It's the history that gave us.
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we're getting away from England and being
free, and it's like we've been in

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lockstep and taxed way more and more
of their you know, puppet than when

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we were before the war. So
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just want to thank you for your
service and all the veterans out there,

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you guys are amazing. Like I
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I just I don't know what it
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for me or just being a woos, I don't know, but wasn't my

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path, and wasn't my father's.
His father served at the end of World

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War Two. He was over and
occupied Germany and tried to get stories and

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stuff out of him. He wouldn't
talk about it much because I think he

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saw it wasn't the story he was
told when he was there. On my

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father's mother's side, her uncle was
a general in Civil War. I actually

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have some cool correspondences from him and
President Grant, and I want to actually

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get some pictures of those and actually
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if there's anything weird. In there, and that would be awesome. Some

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of the pictures of him and stuff. I haven't really looked again, but

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you know, there might be some
of the hidden hand and the jacket stuff

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and different poses and things, and
and of course she gave his sword away

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to the Smithsonian, the keepers of
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I just it's hard with the history, and that includes the religious history.

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Like you talked about a few episodes
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to sixty books, I think there
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should have been, but I think
they took out a lot of stuff that

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would actually have us worshiping the correct
way and having the proper connection to God

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we should have. And it's to
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and weak and controllable, for sure. And it's interesting. I did a

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little research on the Ethiopian Bible recently, and a lot of people believe that

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the arc of the Lust, arc
of the Covenant is in Ethiopia. Whether

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it is or not, I don't
know. There's that. You can find

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documentaries on these people that watch it
twenty four to seven, three sixty five.

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Their Bible has eighty eight you know, our sixty six. There they

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have an additional twenty two I think, including jubilees Enok and Maccabee's which is

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interesting. I think those are included
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when I was big into the space
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the arm Being in Ethiopia. It's
actually a really good book. It's a

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and I like his other writings,
some of his fictions, Good War God's

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pretty cool. And I've read his
Fingerprints and Magicians of the Gods and stuff,

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and I believe there's some stuff in
that I don't know about the dating

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and stuff, but I definitely don't
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craters are extinct volcanoes and geysers and
maybe bubbled up you know, underground.

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gas explosion. Sure, yeah, And

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you really don't think they're they're crater
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for meteors or anything like that,
as they say. And something that I

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think people fail to think about is
listen, if you believe the story of

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the flood, that much water would
would certainly change the face of the earth

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to some extent, would you agree, Oh, for sure. I mean

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that's why Egypt and the Middle East
is covered in sand, right they talk

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about hud flood. I mean it's
just been drying out over there, so

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now it's sand. Look at the
picture of when they found the Giant Pyramid

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of Mexico. It was just a
hill. No one until they dug it

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out. It just you know,
And I have an issue with that.

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In the mud flood, I mean, I believe there could easily be multiple,

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but why can't the mud flood be
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we know that they changed the calendar
and mess with our timeline. We don't

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know exactly how many how long ago
that was. Oh that's an interesting thought.

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events. Why can't it be the
same flood? Just left overs from the

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same catastrophe. Have you heard the
theory about the the Milky Way being a

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scar in the firmament waters came.
Indeed, that's I think that's pretty fascinating.

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I do too, and I buy
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look at the picture from NASA,
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look at it. It does right. And then in the Bible says,

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you know the waters above and below. I can't remember the there's been a

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couple explorers, deep sea explorers have
gone down. There's that one video of

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the guys a, yeah, we
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couldn't penetrate. You know, they
saw that it was water, but they

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couldn't go down in it, so
it could be like a revert you know.

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finger, made the scar, opened

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up the firmament, let it come
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the bottom, you know, And
that's how you get up so much of

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that water, and some of it's
been evaporated and left over into our our

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environmental cloud and rain system and some
of you know, that's why stuff's still

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underwater and stuff. And maybe some
of the stuff that's underwater or was meant

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to be left there and we weren't
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don't know, maybe some of the
really dark stuff could be discovered there that

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could lead us back down that I
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path. It is almost like the
time the days of Noah. But I

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know one hundred percent when when you
read you know that the chapter about the

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you know, the flood, and
you start to see how every heart was

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full, you know, with the
wickedness. And then you just look around,

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whether it's on social media or just
how people act, and how far

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we have gotten away from God and
just from being decent human beings. You

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know, I've seen just you know, from the seventies to today, how

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society is just. And you try
to point out what, you know,

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what in just you know, forty
or fifty years, what allowed this huge

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turn, and you could say against
God, you could just say from being

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a decent human being, because I
remember growing up you held the door open

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for a woman and just the most
basic things. When a woman stood up

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from the table, all the men
stood up. We always said grace.

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We never ever ever ate a meal
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you can't really point to one thing, But what do you think are some

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of the things that have led us
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I think it's the scientism and doctrination
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way they explain it. So like
Columbus, why flatter is so hard for

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people. I can't remember if it
was your podcast or if it might have

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been on Firmamental, but a lady
was explaining, they made you feel so

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dumb. They'd make they make all
the ancient people seem so dumb. And

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these barbarians, these dumb savages,
they didn't know anything. It was like,

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well, they knew how to do
everything. We don't know. Most

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people today they can't live without electricity, electronics, a grocery store. They

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can't build their own homes, their
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hunt their own food. They're a
lot smarter and uh, all this technology

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and they can't even figure out what
the pyramids are. And so I just

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think, you know, oh,
these dumb people thought the earth was flat

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and it'd sell over there and fall
off. And it's like, I don't

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think they thought that at all.
I think they had a better understanding of

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it. But it's how they teach
you. You don't want to be done

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like these people of the past.
You're this new, smarter, better generation

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that has all this better stuff.
You know, not better intelligence or better

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skills, you just have better stuff. And who knows if we even have

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better stuff you see some of those
old pictures you don't know if they're real

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or not, but on some of
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and electric walkways like all the world's
bears and things like. You know,

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they didn't build that giant city for
two weeks to tear it down,

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Like come on, And I think
it's a scientism and doctrination they make,

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you know, make you feel of
this. You're just this insignificant space monkey

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lost with no you know, no
purpose. Yeah. I couldn't agree more.

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as technology, and I listen to

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this. This is from an eighth
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in Salina, Kansas, which,
if you all don't know, that's like

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right on the border of Colorado in
eighteen ninety five, so we're talking one

410
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hundred and just about thirty years.
Okay. Question number one, give the

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nine rules for the use of capital
letters. The nine rules for uses of

412
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capital letters like a name, a
prefix like a state, or an address

413
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like a yep. Let's see what
And then listen to this one multiple couldn't

414
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land. Yeah, that's the thing
most people. And then define verse,

415
00:30:42.480 --> 00:30:48.119
stanza and paragraph. Right, you're
talking maybe two percent of the class.

416
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And I just talked about two weeks
ago on the fact Hunner, how in

417
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Baltimore there was twenty one schools districts
that tested none of them passed math.

418
00:31:00.039 --> 00:31:03.039
That the literacy rate, the tenth
graders were reading at a second grade level.

419
00:31:03.480 --> 00:31:07.920
And you're talking about Eric, We're
talking about people who have been in

420
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school, if you count kindergarten at
that point, for eleven years. What

421
00:31:12.599 --> 00:31:15.519
are they doing for eleven years?
And I'm not talking about the children so

422
00:31:15.640 --> 00:31:21.160
much as the adults. What is
going How have we failed the children to

423
00:31:21.200 --> 00:31:23.680
where they have been? Could you
imagine if you paid And here's the thing

424
00:31:23.759 --> 00:31:27.599
we do pay out of our pocket, it's called taxes. How are people

425
00:31:27.640 --> 00:31:33.240
not outraged when you read these numbers? And it's not just Baltimore, it's

426
00:31:33.240 --> 00:31:37.119
Saint Louis, it's Los Angeles,
it's Chicago, it's Boston, it's many

427
00:31:37.160 --> 00:31:41.119
of your hometowns. So how are
you not outraged that you're paying for this

428
00:31:41.279 --> 00:31:45.839
system where children spend eleven years of
their life by the tenth grade and they

429
00:31:45.880 --> 00:31:49.720
can't even read? Yeah, well, how about was it an Oregon that

430
00:31:49.799 --> 00:31:52.279
just made it so they don't have
to be able to pass English and math

431
00:31:52.359 --> 00:31:57.440
to that's right. How does that
make any sense? I don't understand that

432
00:31:57.480 --> 00:32:02.000
makes any sense. How Like I
almost didn't graduate from my citizenship grade.

433
00:32:02.119 --> 00:32:06.799
So I had a B average,
but since I missed so many classes,

434
00:32:07.000 --> 00:32:10.519
ye you know, because I you
know, I wasn't a great I was

435
00:32:10.599 --> 00:32:14.599
too smart. I was. I
would get a D in the class and

436
00:32:14.640 --> 00:32:17.599
aced the test and get a B. And I missed classes and mess around.

437
00:32:17.680 --> 00:32:22.480
You know, we were always partying
back in those days, and you

438
00:32:22.480 --> 00:32:27.920
know, we were trying to have
fun and hook up with girls. School

439
00:32:28.119 --> 00:32:30.720
wasn't you know. And and my
problem is that, you know, the

440
00:32:30.799 --> 00:32:35.839
counselors don't see what you're into and
direct you into that path. It's just,

441
00:32:35.839 --> 00:32:37.480
oh, what do you want to
be when you grow up? Oh

442
00:32:37.519 --> 00:32:38.480
you want to be a lawyer,
you want to be doctor? And I'm

443
00:32:38.480 --> 00:32:43.240
forty two. I still don't know. I've never known. And and instead

444
00:32:43.279 --> 00:32:47.240
of finding something that's where I'm interested
in and going down that path, it's

445
00:32:47.279 --> 00:32:51.839
always been oh, I don't know, and just job after job. You

446
00:32:51.839 --> 00:32:54.200
know, I worked my like I
said, my father owned bars and restaurants.

447
00:32:54.200 --> 00:32:58.160
I was a bartender for fifteen years. I grew up in a biker

448
00:32:58.200 --> 00:33:01.359
bar and sex, drugs and roll, and like I said, soon as

449
00:33:01.400 --> 00:33:07.160
my great grandmother died, church was
over. And and he's he's pretty atheist,

450
00:33:07.240 --> 00:33:09.480
and he's pretty bought into the system. And and I don't know how

451
00:33:09.480 --> 00:33:13.880
many boosters he's had. But even
if even after he's into that, like

452
00:33:14.480 --> 00:33:19.480
he he was bought in from whatever
after it was it was pushing VOCs back

453
00:33:19.480 --> 00:33:22.519
in the day, So after he
liked told him it was good. And

454
00:33:22.559 --> 00:33:25.400
even after I show him the numbers
of how many people died and how many

455
00:33:25.440 --> 00:33:28.640
people are sick from it, Well, if I could get it today,

456
00:33:28.680 --> 00:33:30.799
I'd still take it. He doesn't
care, like it's like and people are

457
00:33:30.839 --> 00:33:35.799
just like that. They don't they
don't see even when you present the evidence

458
00:33:35.799 --> 00:33:38.079
in their eyes. Some people just
don't care and you can't sway them.

459
00:33:39.839 --> 00:33:45.200
Now, you talked a little bit
about church and how it was a John

460
00:33:45.240 --> 00:33:49.599
who said what his ideal church was. Do you think could we could we

461
00:33:49.640 --> 00:33:54.279
make the education system for children similar
to that, challenging them giving them go

462
00:33:54.319 --> 00:34:00.279
ahead? I'm sorry, oh yeah, exactly like history when you're growing up

463
00:34:00.279 --> 00:34:05.720
sometimes is boring, and the way
they present it, Why does any you

464
00:34:05.759 --> 00:34:08.360
know, white people don't want to
read the history because it makes them look

465
00:34:08.400 --> 00:34:13.039
like, you know, a whole
slavers that were these super evil people.

466
00:34:13.480 --> 00:34:15.440
And then the you know, the
non white kids don't want to read it

467
00:34:15.440 --> 00:34:20.559
because it makes them look like these
weak slave people that couldn't defend themselves and

468
00:34:20.840 --> 00:34:23.400
were always dumb and hadn't you know, we're just the victims of everything.

469
00:34:23.920 --> 00:34:28.400
So if you can't get the kids
to read that, get them something they're

470
00:34:28.440 --> 00:34:31.599
interested, even if they're reading comic
books or whatever. My five year old,

471
00:34:31.679 --> 00:34:35.800
she's in kindergarten. She reads on
probably like a third grade level.

472
00:34:36.800 --> 00:34:40.559
And I hate to say it,
but from reading the captions on YouTube videos

473
00:34:40.599 --> 00:34:45.719
and stuff, it's it's amazing,
just you know, it's it's crazy.

474
00:34:46.199 --> 00:34:50.960
And I see her writing words and
stuff. And she got a note from

475
00:34:50.960 --> 00:34:53.800
a third grader the other day and
his handwriting was as poor as hers was,

476
00:34:54.159 --> 00:34:57.119
and I'm like, and he's in
third grade, he's you know,

477
00:34:57.760 --> 00:35:00.119
had three extra years before her.
Proa they can't read as well as she

478
00:35:00.199 --> 00:35:05.480
can and can't and can barely write. Then you know, it's just exactly

479
00:35:05.519 --> 00:35:10.000
that the school, because it's just
like you said, regurgitate, repeat,

480
00:35:10.079 --> 00:35:15.239
remember this, spit it back out. I always got in trouble for asking

481
00:35:15.320 --> 00:35:17.840
questions for I was a class clown, but I would always when they would

482
00:35:17.840 --> 00:35:21.880
present something, my mind goes off
and I'd say, well, what about

483
00:35:21.920 --> 00:35:22.800
this? Well what about that?
That doesn't make it? And then it

484
00:35:22.880 --> 00:35:25.199
was like, oh, that's not
what it is. Don't worry about that,

485
00:35:25.280 --> 00:35:29.840
you know, just shut up and
put on the paper the answers we

486
00:35:29.880 --> 00:35:34.599
want. Yeah, And the other
I think disaster is the fact that they've

487
00:35:34.599 --> 00:35:38.679
gotten away from actual writing. They're
giving these kids tablets at the first and

488
00:35:38.719 --> 00:35:43.960
second grade levels, and that's something
in the advanced classes as you get into

489
00:35:44.039 --> 00:35:46.280
junior high in high school, I
think that's probably okay, but you need

490
00:35:46.320 --> 00:35:50.639
to still learn the fundamentals like it. Going back to the military, you

491
00:35:50.639 --> 00:35:54.559
have basic training, you have to
learn the basic skills. And with auto

492
00:35:54.599 --> 00:35:59.239
correct and everything else, everybody's given
a crutch in life today. And that's

493
00:35:59.280 --> 00:36:01.760
the other part of the reasons why
so many people are so soft today is

494
00:36:01.800 --> 00:36:07.599
between sports everybody wins, everybody gets
a trophy, and auto correct and everything

495
00:36:07.599 --> 00:36:09.880
else, people don't really understand what
it's like to be on the losing end

496
00:36:09.920 --> 00:36:13.840
of things. To be told,
you're wrong. And you know, as

497
00:36:13.880 --> 00:36:19.119
an adult, when you first find
out how hard life is as a as

498
00:36:19.159 --> 00:36:22.599
an eighteen nineteen twenty year old person, you failed that person. Yeah.

499
00:36:22.639 --> 00:36:27.679
I've had to explain the participation Trophy
to my daughter because she's gotten a couple.

500
00:36:28.159 --> 00:36:29.920
I was like, that wasn't like
that when I was a kid.

501
00:36:30.000 --> 00:36:34.760
If your team didn't win, you'd
got nothing. You messed around in practice,

502
00:36:34.800 --> 00:36:37.119
you ran laps, you did push
ups. You know they were on

503
00:36:37.159 --> 00:36:39.440
you. Yeah. We had a
thing when I in high school, when

504
00:36:39.480 --> 00:36:43.559
I played football. It's called a
Herschel Herschel walker. If you got in

505
00:36:43.559 --> 00:36:45.679
trouble, you're doing four hundred push
ups, four hundred sit ups, and

506
00:36:45.760 --> 00:36:49.360
you know, running laps like the
coach has screamed at you, yell.

507
00:36:49.480 --> 00:36:52.920
You know today that coach would get
a charge on him. Yeah, it's

508
00:36:52.960 --> 00:36:55.719
just not the same. They don't. It's just like I said, it's

509
00:36:55.719 --> 00:37:00.239
just this band aided soft bubble wrap
world, and they're doing it on purpose

510
00:37:00.280 --> 00:37:02.760
to make us not be able to
you know, to make us dependent.

511
00:37:04.320 --> 00:37:07.039
Yeah, want them to save us
and to be dependent on their systems.

512
00:37:07.519 --> 00:37:12.440
They don't want thinkers, they want
compliant workers. Yeah. The Rockefeller saying,

513
00:37:12.480 --> 00:37:14.719
yeah, I don't want thinkers,
I want workers. That's right.

514
00:37:14.800 --> 00:37:17.000
And I think I know I said
this so many times, but you know

515
00:37:17.039 --> 00:37:22.880
that whole bell system within the school, It gets you train for when you

516
00:37:22.920 --> 00:37:24.280
grow up to you know, clock
in and clock out, you know your

517
00:37:24.360 --> 00:37:28.320
lunch break, clock in, clock
out. Just that they don't want thinkers

518
00:37:29.599 --> 00:37:36.599
here in Delaware. Our governor is
signed on to the just the incredible minimum

519
00:37:36.639 --> 00:37:39.800
wage. I think we're fifteen dollars
beginning January first. Here is just a

520
00:37:39.800 --> 00:37:45.039
couple of days as we record,
it's actually December twenty ninth, and one

521
00:37:45.039 --> 00:37:50.000
of the longest running seafood companies in
Delaware just had to close it. They're

522
00:37:50.000 --> 00:37:52.000
like, we can't pay we can't
pay people fifteen bucks an hour and keep

523
00:37:52.000 --> 00:37:54.639
our doors open. And they're older
now, so it's not like they can

524
00:37:54.679 --> 00:37:59.159
do all the work. So you're
going to continue to see all of the

525
00:37:59.199 --> 00:38:01.960
mama pop business right. It started
with COVID. They wiped out in some

526
00:38:02.039 --> 00:38:07.119
towns like Colorado Springs thirty percent of
small businesses and around the country, some

527
00:38:07.159 --> 00:38:10.760
more, some less. But I
saw it. After I retired from the

528
00:38:10.840 --> 00:38:15.000
Army, I started my own business
in retail, which you can survive if

529
00:38:15.000 --> 00:38:22.119
you're in a services business. Like
if you're on the fence about college or

530
00:38:22.159 --> 00:38:28.119
trade school, go to trade school, learn trade trade school. Yeah,

531
00:38:28.400 --> 00:38:31.199
learned to be a plumber, a
carpenter, a mason, a brick layer.

532
00:38:31.519 --> 00:38:37.880
I don't want anybody to clip that
George is a mason. But yeah,

533
00:38:37.360 --> 00:38:43.639
it's just it's so important to learn
a trade. Again, going back

534
00:38:43.679 --> 00:38:46.480
to the small businesses, you're going
to see less and less small businesses and

535
00:38:46.639 --> 00:38:50.519
maybe ten years from now you're either
going to work for the federal government,

536
00:38:50.599 --> 00:38:55.280
Amazon or Walmart. Like it's going
to be the days of the small businesses

537
00:38:55.280 --> 00:38:59.559
which used to be the backbone.
I think upboards of ninety percent of this

538
00:38:59.599 --> 00:39:05.320
country continues to dissolve. You're in
and you're out. Yeah, Like I

539
00:39:05.320 --> 00:39:07.559
said, my father was a small
business owner. My wife, she's a

540
00:39:07.599 --> 00:39:14.719
stay at home mom. She's started
her own business. It's a crafting business,

541
00:39:14.719 --> 00:39:21.119
making all sorts of different everything from
tumblrs to mouse pads, like sublimation

542
00:39:21.239 --> 00:39:25.760
and everything from apparel, car vinyl
stickers, Christmas bulbs, just all custom

543
00:39:25.800 --> 00:39:30.480
design stuff. That's awesome. And
like I said, my father always had

544
00:39:30.480 --> 00:39:34.400
bars and restaurants and that was like
his his thing. You know, he's

545
00:39:34.440 --> 00:39:39.320
a lifelong Democrat. And even then
though he understands that the minimum wagting doesn't

546
00:39:39.360 --> 00:39:45.639
work. He you know, we
would pay our bartenders and waitresses usually double

547
00:39:45.679 --> 00:39:47.760
what they got around town because back
and then in the in the early two

548
00:39:47.800 --> 00:39:52.000
thousands, it was about two fifty
an hour plus tips. Yeah, hips,

549
00:39:52.000 --> 00:39:55.360
and then so we were paying like
five bucks an hour for you know,

550
00:39:55.519 --> 00:39:58.679
and so everyone wanted to work there
and we were busy, and it

551
00:39:58.719 --> 00:40:02.320
was a big jumping joint. But
he understand and you know, all the

552
00:40:02.320 --> 00:40:06.679
people coming into all the conversations of
all the lot of small business owners would

553
00:40:06.679 --> 00:40:07.920
come in there, and yeah,
they couldn't. When they were talking about

554
00:40:08.000 --> 00:40:10.239
raising it to ten, they're like, there's no way I can afford to

555
00:40:10.559 --> 00:40:15.000
pay people that, you know.
And and it's crazy out here in Sula

556
00:40:15.039 --> 00:40:17.400
because you know, it's not even
though it's the church and state separated,

557
00:40:17.440 --> 00:40:23.679
it's not the guest runs at all. And they're a big time Zionist organization,

558
00:40:23.800 --> 00:40:29.320
I mean Zion's Bank. They support
everything. I haven't heard a rumor

559
00:40:29.360 --> 00:40:31.760
that if you wanted to be a
contractor here to get certain loans and stuff,

560
00:40:31.760 --> 00:40:36.960
you had to sign things that you
would be pro Israel and not against

561
00:40:37.000 --> 00:40:39.480
the Zionist movement and things like that, like you had to it's weird.

562
00:40:39.599 --> 00:40:43.599
And then I think it was the
one guy you had on the Mormon Rishi

563
00:40:43.679 --> 00:40:46.440
talking about the University of Utah.
That was quite a eye opener because I've

564
00:40:46.440 --> 00:40:49.679
had a lot of friends that went
there, and I'm friends with a lot

565
00:40:49.679 --> 00:40:52.400
of alumni there, and it's like, wow, yeah, they do kind

566
00:40:52.400 --> 00:40:58.280
of have that Marxist view and it's
very very socialistic. It's you know,

567
00:40:58.800 --> 00:41:02.679
it's it's just it's a weird spot
here. It's it's it's so beautiful and

568
00:41:02.679 --> 00:41:07.280
sol gorgeous. But I just feel
like that, you know, if it's

569
00:41:07.280 --> 00:41:10.239
just under their control and if you
don't play the way they will, they'll

570
00:41:10.239 --> 00:41:15.000
shut you down. That's interesting.
And Mitt Romney, this guy has been

571
00:41:15.000 --> 00:41:20.000
a player for so long. He
pretends to be a conservative on the right

572
00:41:20.039 --> 00:41:22.400
guy, but he's really nothing could
be further. He's really shown who he

573
00:41:22.519 --> 00:41:27.039
is over the past few years.
Is but is he just so embraced in

574
00:41:27.079 --> 00:41:32.519
that state It seems fifty to fifty
he's definitely embraced by the top power structure,

575
00:41:32.880 --> 00:41:35.599
you know. Oh yeah, they
were trying to get him to be

576
00:41:35.639 --> 00:41:37.679
president. But I mean I think
he was born in Mexico. You know,

577
00:41:38.039 --> 00:41:42.760
his poligamous family. They have a
compound in Mexico. You know,

578
00:41:42.800 --> 00:41:45.679
they were when the church divided and
all that that stuff, you know,

579
00:41:45.400 --> 00:41:51.639
you know, and he he was
what he was the governor of Massachusetts or

580
00:41:51.800 --> 00:41:54.079
was it was somewhere back east.
It wasn't Utah. And now I think

581
00:41:54.079 --> 00:42:00.719
he's like one of our representatives or
something. But yeah, it's they were

582
00:42:00.119 --> 00:42:04.519
they were pumped, you know,
pumping him up for the presidential run.

583
00:42:04.920 --> 00:42:07.559
But like you said, yeah,
he he poses as a conservative, but

584
00:42:07.719 --> 00:42:12.480
he votes everything democratic and socialists.
Yeah. He was the seventieth governor of

585
00:42:12.519 --> 00:42:17.239
Massachusetts from three to seven. Yeah, and now he's just I'm going to

586
00:42:17.280 --> 00:42:22.760
go to Utah. Yeah. And
that's all just because he has an end

587
00:42:22.800 --> 00:42:28.519
because he's you know, does he
does their bidding and they have the blackmail

588
00:42:28.559 --> 00:42:31.719
on him that they need, and
he'll he'll follow, he'll follow what they

589
00:42:31.760 --> 00:42:36.400
want him to do. And then
you know, also thinking back about like

590
00:42:36.519 --> 00:42:42.199
the history and the indoctrination, it's
the same thing with how the the church

591
00:42:42.239 --> 00:42:45.840
has been portrayed. Why people don't
care. It's like, oh, Jesus

592
00:42:45.840 --> 00:42:49.679
died for your sins, so it
doesn't matter if you're sinful. You can

593
00:42:49.679 --> 00:42:52.199
be sinful. He's already paid your
atonement. And it's like, well,

594
00:42:52.199 --> 00:42:55.239
no, you still have to walk
the path of righteousness. You still have

595
00:42:55.320 --> 00:42:59.679
to You can't just say I'm sorry. You have to fully repent and have

596
00:42:59.760 --> 00:43:02.320
to be has to be from your
soul. And you know you can't just

597
00:43:02.360 --> 00:43:05.280
be, oh, you is Dad
for my sins. I'm good. I

598
00:43:05.280 --> 00:43:08.320
can I can do drugs, I
can do abortions, I can live this

599
00:43:08.599 --> 00:43:12.320
sinful life because it's already been atoned
for. It's like that, that's not

600
00:43:12.360 --> 00:43:15.119
how it works. No, And
there's a lot of people who show up

601
00:43:15.119 --> 00:43:17.599
to church for an hour on Sunday
and think that that that that it tones

602
00:43:17.639 --> 00:43:21.760
their sins and nothing can be further
from the truth. Is you have to

603
00:43:22.480 --> 00:43:25.159
uh, you know I can every
night before I go to bed, I

604
00:43:25.159 --> 00:43:29.159
ask for forgiveness for my sins because
I know tomorrow I'm gonna sin again every

605
00:43:29.199 --> 00:43:32.519
single night. And you know,
I'm none of us are perfect. Well,

606
00:43:32.639 --> 00:43:37.559
we're all flawed, but we try. You know, you can't call

607
00:43:37.599 --> 00:43:40.760
yourself a follower of Christ and then
just show up for church on Sunday and

608
00:43:40.760 --> 00:43:45.480
then go back to living a life
of sins. That's just not what what

609
00:43:45.679 --> 00:43:47.639
you know. That's not how it
works, and that's not what it should

610
00:43:47.679 --> 00:43:51.840
be about. It should be about. And again this goes back to how

611
00:43:52.480 --> 00:44:00.159
they have hijacked everything and minim minimalize. Try that again, minimalized. I

612
00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:07.960
don't like these religion Christianity just you
know the infrastructure of churches and how the

613
00:44:07.280 --> 00:44:12.480
government has taken over churches and controlling
them with the five oh one c threes.

614
00:44:13.760 --> 00:44:15.639
And I've had again pastors tell me
that if they didn't close during COVID,

615
00:44:15.639 --> 00:44:19.840
they were going to lose their tax
free status. And oh God forbid

616
00:44:19.880 --> 00:44:23.199
if we lose that right, and
you're staying here with their church and building

617
00:44:23.239 --> 00:44:27.079
their temples and all their stuff.
Is that tax free status you know it

618
00:44:27.119 --> 00:44:32.760
made them in I don't know that
made them legit. Yeah, think that

619
00:44:32.800 --> 00:44:37.119
you know that tax free status because
we're a real true religion. That's not

620
00:44:37.199 --> 00:44:42.400
what that means at all. No, not at all. But yeah,

621
00:44:42.440 --> 00:44:44.960
I could go on and on on
on that forever and ever and ever,

622
00:44:45.119 --> 00:44:47.320
and listen, we're all flawed and
we all should try to be better people.

623
00:44:47.880 --> 00:44:51.039
But to think that you can show
up to church for an hour and

624
00:44:51.079 --> 00:44:53.599
then go back to living in a
sinful life. That's just not the you

625
00:44:53.639 --> 00:44:59.000
know, once you accept Christ into
your heart, you should be winning souls,

626
00:44:59.599 --> 00:45:07.320
you know, And that's what I
think is lost amongst everything is See,

627
00:45:07.320 --> 00:45:09.039
I don't like to just blast.
I'm not here to blast churches because

628
00:45:09.039 --> 00:45:14.519
there are a lot of great church
need one hundred percent, But I've seen

629
00:45:14.559 --> 00:45:15.719
it so many times. I've tried
many different churches in my area, and

630
00:45:15.760 --> 00:45:22.599
everything is focused inward instead of outward. They do some great things, but

631
00:45:22.719 --> 00:45:27.880
that's why, you know, everybody
like yourself. You know, we're going

632
00:45:27.960 --> 00:45:30.800
to start here every week on Saturdays
at eleven am. We're going to have

633
00:45:30.840 --> 00:45:35.679
to get together into a Bible study
on the website. I forget the date

634
00:45:35.760 --> 00:45:39.519
January, the second Saturday of January. When the thirteenth maybe awesome, i'm'll

635
00:45:39.519 --> 00:45:43.079
have to join Yeah, one hundred
percent, and I'll put that out here

636
00:45:43.199 --> 00:45:47.360
next week as a standalone episode.
But it's just we we have to do

637
00:45:47.400 --> 00:45:52.280
better. We have to start thinking
outside the box. And that goes for

638
00:45:52.400 --> 00:45:55.519
education, that goes for how we
profess our love of Christ and being better

639
00:45:55.559 --> 00:46:00.320
parents and being better friends. Being
better children is we have to to break

640
00:46:00.360 --> 00:46:04.719
the norm how society said, this
is how you have to be right.

641
00:46:04.719 --> 00:46:07.239
We'll all you're hateful, or you're
you're this, you're you know, they're

642
00:46:07.280 --> 00:46:12.840
so quick to label you, whether
it's as a person or you know,

643
00:46:13.000 --> 00:46:16.760
your child won't sit still in class. So really, my six year old

644
00:46:17.159 --> 00:46:21.719
won't sit still in a desk for
eight hours a day. You don't say

645
00:46:22.480 --> 00:46:24.320
maybe we should load them up on
prescription drugs. I mean, the whole

646
00:46:24.360 --> 00:46:28.480
thing is just we have to put
a stop to it and you know,

647
00:46:28.760 --> 00:46:32.519
start walking the walk instead of talking
the talk. Yeah, maybe maybe it's

648
00:46:32.559 --> 00:46:37.119
your Your school structure is why they
can't pay attention and can't sit in class.

649
00:46:37.159 --> 00:46:40.880
Maybe you need to be more hands
on education and where they're doing things

650
00:46:40.880 --> 00:46:45.880
instead of sitting there just listening to
a lecture. Yeah, not everyone learned.

651
00:46:45.039 --> 00:46:47.960
Not everyone learns the same, you
know. I mean some people listen

652
00:46:49.000 --> 00:46:52.480
to learn by a lecture, some
people listen to by reading. Some people

653
00:46:52.559 --> 00:46:55.079
listen to by experience. They have
to they have to do it. Yep.

654
00:46:55.840 --> 00:46:59.840
Yeah, And nowadays there's actually some
places that I'll ask you that do

655
00:46:59.880 --> 00:47:01.039
you learned by pictures? Do you
learn by video? Do you learn by

656
00:47:01.079 --> 00:47:06.360
audio? Do you learn by reading? And we're all different. And that's

657
00:47:06.400 --> 00:47:09.840
the thing. You have one education
system for millions of people. Just like

658
00:47:09.880 --> 00:47:14.800
their magical elixirs. They try to
push on people that the new vaccine,

659
00:47:15.000 --> 00:47:16.519
you know, it's good for everybody. No, it's not, because nobody's

660
00:47:16.559 --> 00:47:22.400
the same at all the commercials,
because there's so many commercials on everything,

661
00:47:22.440 --> 00:47:24.280
and just the side of effect.
They're not side effects. Those are the

662
00:47:24.320 --> 00:47:32.320
effects. It's a comical like for
a simple thing that isn't life threatening,

663
00:47:32.440 --> 00:47:37.519
isn't really it's you know, like, yeah, so rosa sucks. It's

664
00:47:37.519 --> 00:47:39.000
a skin thing, but it's kind
of ugly and stuff, but it's not.

665
00:47:39.800 --> 00:47:44.199
It's not worth rolling. It's far
worse to you than having a dry,

666
00:47:44.280 --> 00:47:46.079
patchy part of your skin or something
like that. Right. Crazy,

667
00:47:46.280 --> 00:47:50.960
When you hear about cirrhosis or hair
loss and then the side effects are stroke,

668
00:47:51.480 --> 00:47:53.440
liver failure, you're like, wow, you know, hair loss isn't

669
00:47:53.480 --> 00:48:00.159
really that bad. I'll take my
monkey butt there you go, Yeah,

670
00:48:00.159 --> 00:48:02.880
it doesn't. It's just hair like
whatever, And I'm so glad you said

671
00:48:02.880 --> 00:48:07.760
that. I've never heard anybody say
that they're not side effects. They are

672
00:48:07.159 --> 00:48:14.840
the effects, and it is to
further make a deeper customer base, because

673
00:48:14.840 --> 00:48:16.400
now you have another problem. Who
are you going to turn to the doctor,

674
00:48:16.440 --> 00:48:20.559
And what's the doctor going to do. He's going to prescribe you something

675
00:48:20.559 --> 00:48:23.480
else and next thing you know,
you're on ten pills for all your effects

676
00:48:23.480 --> 00:48:28.719
that they've been that they've been given
to you to counteract it. And then

677
00:48:29.159 --> 00:48:32.280
it's just just the endless cycle.
And that's what they want. Like everyone's

678
00:48:32.480 --> 00:48:36.119
so worried about, Oh, they're
trying to kill us all. No they're

679
00:48:36.119 --> 00:48:37.280
not, and they want to kill
us all. They just kill us all.

680
00:48:37.400 --> 00:48:43.320
They want us sick and weak and
dependent and to get as much money

681
00:48:43.320 --> 00:48:46.239
and our time and energy and as
they can, like you know, it's

682
00:48:46.280 --> 00:48:52.280
truly they. Yeah, they do
do big events where they sacrifice a bunch

683
00:48:52.320 --> 00:48:55.079
of us to their demonic gods yep. Nine to eleven and things like that.

684
00:48:55.679 --> 00:48:59.960
I mean, you look at it
like you've talked about it before.

685
00:49:00.039 --> 00:49:02.840
The Pentagon gets say, you've got
a burning pentagram. Then they have the

686
00:49:02.880 --> 00:49:07.880
recreation of Solomon's temple. You have
the two towers, the two pillars,

687
00:49:07.320 --> 00:49:12.320
and what was building seven, the
Solomon building Solomon's to their own new Age

688
00:49:12.320 --> 00:49:16.800
Solomon's Temple and they sacrificed it all
to just like however the history goes,

689
00:49:17.039 --> 00:49:23.679
you know, it's just it's just
sad and it makes people fearful. And

690
00:49:23.719 --> 00:49:27.480
that's something I'd like to print out, Like how the Bible has three hundred

691
00:49:27.480 --> 00:49:30.840
and sixty five versus the say do
not fear, like pretty much one for

692
00:49:30.880 --> 00:49:32.920
every day. You know. It's
like it'd be nice. I think I

693
00:49:32.960 --> 00:49:37.119
want to somehow get a print out
of that to read one every day,

694
00:49:37.159 --> 00:49:40.199
just to have a little morning affirmation, you know. And I think people

695
00:49:40.199 --> 00:49:45.679
could use that that, you know, Yeah, that is a great idea.

696
00:49:45.199 --> 00:49:46.760
I was just going to ask you, do you think with nine to

697
00:49:46.800 --> 00:49:52.239
eleven with those things that you said
with the Solomon's Temple and the two towers

698
00:49:52.280 --> 00:49:57.719
representing was Jokim and bias? I
think it is the two pillars and the

699
00:49:57.760 --> 00:50:04.639
burning pentagram. Hey, I'm having
a allergy attack today. Did you think

700
00:50:04.679 --> 00:50:08.800
it was just symbology or do you
think it was a man? It's the

701
00:50:08.920 --> 00:50:13.960
term because we know that eleven years
earlier, that eleven number again George H.

702
00:50:14.119 --> 00:50:16.960
W. Bush on September eleventh,
nineteen ninety set a new world order.

703
00:50:17.320 --> 00:50:22.559
But do you think it was a
turning point as in that they were

704
00:50:22.760 --> 00:50:25.880
like, again, we talk about
how they used to boil the frog for

705
00:50:27.480 --> 00:50:30.400
generations before, and they slowly reeled
in these things, whether it be the

706
00:50:30.480 --> 00:50:36.920
hippie movement and everything else that slowly
creeped into our society. But here we

707
00:50:36.960 --> 00:50:39.360
are, just twenty years later and
we see that again they're not even hiding

708
00:50:39.400 --> 00:50:43.960
their evil anymore. Do you think
that was like their go card that day.

709
00:50:44.679 --> 00:50:45.840
Yeah. I think it was a
ritual, and I think it was

710
00:50:45.920 --> 00:50:51.119
to to show, you know,
the people that don't see it aren't going

711
00:50:51.159 --> 00:50:53.000
to see it and they're not going
to believe it. But those of us

712
00:50:53.119 --> 00:50:59.280
that, you know, we're actually
looking into things as conspiracy theorists, the

713
00:50:59.440 --> 00:51:04.400
term they vented for us on the
JFK assassination. I think it was like

714
00:51:04.440 --> 00:51:07.360
say, hey, look, we
can do what we want and take you

715
00:51:07.440 --> 00:51:10.920
out and and we're gonna and we're
gonna we do these things and we install

716
00:51:12.079 --> 00:51:15.079
bills and laws and take away your
rights when we do this, and there's

717
00:51:15.119 --> 00:51:17.559
nothing you can do about it.
That's how they want us to think and

718
00:51:17.599 --> 00:51:22.679
feel, and they're they just perpetuate
this division. They want they want a

719
00:51:22.719 --> 00:51:25.320
civil war. You know, and
that's how we have to win, is

720
00:51:25.360 --> 00:51:30.039
by killing them with kindness and and
you know, walking away and making a

721
00:51:30.079 --> 00:51:35.159
parallel system and not being dependent and
showing them that we don't need them,

722
00:51:35.159 --> 00:51:38.440
that they aren't elite, that they're
they're the parasites that you know, they

723
00:51:38.480 --> 00:51:45.079
need us. Yeah, I couldn't
agree more. And that this the federal

724
00:51:45.119 --> 00:51:47.239
government has become such a monster you
can't really beat it. So I agree

725
00:51:47.239 --> 00:51:53.039
with you is walk away and build
your own society. But I think that's

726
00:51:53.039 --> 00:51:55.079
the other thing, you know,
I talked to in the beginning of the

727
00:51:55.119 --> 00:52:00.280
program that many people were starting to
show their frustrations. I think it's just

728
00:52:00.320 --> 00:52:05.320
people don't know what to do.
They don't know where to turn. They

729
00:52:05.519 --> 00:52:09.760
realize, they recognize there's there's something
really terrible going on, but they don't

730
00:52:09.800 --> 00:52:15.400
know what to do. And it's
basically you need to start a parallel system.

731
00:52:15.679 --> 00:52:20.920
But you also need to I believe
there has to be some level of

732
00:52:20.960 --> 00:52:23.960
civil disobedience. And I've said this
before. If you believe that this country

733
00:52:24.039 --> 00:52:30.320
has been hijacked by a nefarious system
with the evil actors who do not have

734
00:52:30.360 --> 00:52:32.719
your best interest in mine, right, you're the ones who generate the income

735
00:52:32.760 --> 00:52:38.840
for this country and for most people
who are listening. You and your parents

736
00:52:38.880 --> 00:52:44.039
and your grandparents in my case going
back to the Civil War, have been

737
00:52:44.079 --> 00:52:46.599
the backbone of this country and then
just to be turned around and crapped on

738
00:52:47.159 --> 00:52:53.599
and be put last in a system
where it is being manipulated. And I

739
00:52:53.679 --> 00:52:58.880
believe there's an intentional running into the
ground of this country. Again, I

740
00:52:58.880 --> 00:53:01.639
think I'm not trying to be a
fear monger, but I think twenty twenty

741
00:53:01.679 --> 00:53:07.599
four is going to make twenty twenty
look like child's play because I think there

742
00:53:07.639 --> 00:53:12.079
is going to be a credit event
involved. And while you can have you

743
00:53:12.079 --> 00:53:19.239
know, flu bugs and things of
that nature go around for you know,

744
00:53:19.320 --> 00:53:22.519
my grandmother told me the story she
was born in nineteen seventeen. She told

745
00:53:22.559 --> 00:53:25.719
me the stories of the Great Depression, and to add that to anything else

746
00:53:25.719 --> 00:53:28.480
that's going on, whether it be
like you said, a civil war,

747
00:53:28.519 --> 00:53:31.880
which is something they're trying to push, do they throw some kind of false

748
00:53:31.920 --> 00:53:37.079
flag in there to kick it off? Where are they intentionally going to push

749
00:53:37.159 --> 00:53:43.000
these things with a certain guy being
left off ballots and are they going to

750
00:53:43.239 --> 00:53:47.280
piss somebody off enough to where they
somebody actually does something, it remains to

751
00:53:47.280 --> 00:53:50.960
be seen. But again, you
have to be physically fit, you have

752
00:53:51.000 --> 00:53:57.920
to be spiritually fit. And again, you know I'm prepared. I don't.

753
00:53:58.039 --> 00:54:00.280
I don't like to be a prepper, right, I'm not here building

754
00:54:00.559 --> 00:54:06.000
you know something, an underground tunnel
or anything. But I am fully aware

755
00:54:06.079 --> 00:54:09.639
that the have nots are going to
come after the haves and just because you're

756
00:54:09.639 --> 00:54:13.360
out in the country or you know, they're going to recognize that and that's

757
00:54:13.360 --> 00:54:15.800
where they're going to come. So
as a Christian, I feel I should

758
00:54:15.800 --> 00:54:20.079
be able to protect my family.
But you know, I'm not going to

759
00:54:20.119 --> 00:54:22.480
go and beat the war drum and
go after people. That's just ridiculous.

760
00:54:22.519 --> 00:54:27.639
That's that's what they are going to
hype up through the news cycle, and

761
00:54:27.679 --> 00:54:30.400
they're going to try to spin people
up and get them active so they can

762
00:54:30.440 --> 00:54:36.159
put their plan and they can further
their plan. And I think that's going

763
00:54:36.239 --> 00:54:40.039
to be one of the biggest tests
is, well, you know ten commandments,

764
00:54:40.039 --> 00:54:43.159
you know, one of the parents
is now shall not kill. How

765
00:54:43.599 --> 00:54:45.320
you know it's going to be if
that, if it kicks off the way

766
00:54:45.360 --> 00:54:49.639
they want it, it's going to
be hard to defend your family. And

767
00:54:50.559 --> 00:54:53.679
if you have from the have nots
without doing that and right because they'll find

768
00:54:53.760 --> 00:54:58.480
us guilty. Just like you've seen
for the last four years, you've seen

769
00:54:58.480 --> 00:55:02.239
people break into the store and the
guy protects himself, who gets arrested.

770
00:55:02.679 --> 00:55:07.519
The guy who is protecting pushing in
that corner. That's right. So yeah,

771
00:55:07.559 --> 00:55:13.280
it's going to be it's going to
be interesting. Times are ahead of

772
00:55:13.400 --> 00:55:16.639
us, for sure. I wanted
to kind of pave the way into flat

773
00:55:16.679 --> 00:55:22.119
Earth. When did you you know, you talked about all the other things

774
00:55:22.119 --> 00:55:25.719
that you've came across from from JFK
to nine to eleven, et cetera.

775
00:55:28.440 --> 00:55:32.039
When did you kind of come across
flat Earth? And what was it that

776
00:55:32.320 --> 00:55:37.000
lets you put your guard down long
enough to actually investigate it. I've always

777
00:55:37.000 --> 00:55:43.039
been very open minded and not just
any believe just one thing. Like I've

778
00:55:43.039 --> 00:55:49.280
always entertained everything. And it's probably
about four years or so ago when I

779
00:55:49.280 --> 00:55:57.039
first started looking into me a five
and saw some videos, saw some clips.

780
00:55:59.840 --> 00:56:02.760
I might have read an article or
two, and I had read all

781
00:56:02.800 --> 00:56:08.320
the Sitchen the Twelve Planet series books, and so I was really into all

782
00:56:08.320 --> 00:56:13.119
that because I was into ancient aliens. I was I you know, I

783
00:56:13.159 --> 00:56:16.400
was super into that, and then
uh, when I heard people talk about

784
00:56:16.440 --> 00:56:22.639
that, it was more of follen
Angel's thing. And then once you see

785
00:56:22.039 --> 00:56:30.960
that everything they do is like a
cabalistic Satanic ritual and and trying to lead

786
00:56:30.000 --> 00:56:36.519
everyone away from God is being you
know, Luciferian and and all the you

787
00:56:36.519 --> 00:56:39.599
know, the child sacrifice for Molock
and stuff. It's like it just makes

788
00:56:39.639 --> 00:56:44.039
more sense. It just clicked with
me that way. And like your episode

789
00:56:44.039 --> 00:56:47.840
with Derek Nemos, I would say
it was like the final like nail,

790
00:56:47.960 --> 00:56:52.599
like where I completely was like on
board because how he had I was already

791
00:56:52.639 --> 00:56:55.000
you know, probably like eighty ninety
five percent there, and then when he

792
00:56:55.360 --> 00:56:58.519
how he'd laid it down, it
was just like, yep, that's it.

793
00:56:58.920 --> 00:57:00.719
Just it just resonated, you know
when something clicks and you can just

794
00:57:01.119 --> 00:57:05.519
feel it throughout your whole soul and
your body and your mental and it was

795
00:57:05.599 --> 00:57:08.920
just like, yeah, that makes
that makes much more sense. And those

796
00:57:08.920 --> 00:57:15.239
stitching books are good because you learn
whether his translations are correct or not,

797
00:57:15.280 --> 00:57:20.760
but you learn a lot of history, a lot of geography and stuff from

798
00:57:20.760 --> 00:57:27.519
that Sumerian age. And but it's
totally not Aliens. It's fall it's the

799
00:57:27.599 --> 00:57:31.840
Fallen and it totally coincides, coincides
with the Bible, and you know,

800
00:57:31.960 --> 00:57:37.360
yeah, they like the Ethiopian Bible
is the oldest one around, and they

801
00:57:37.599 --> 00:57:40.440
you know, I know that you're
kind of a younger, younger Earth guy

802
00:57:40.480 --> 00:57:45.719
where you're thinking more like six eight
thousand years and it possibly could be older.

803
00:57:45.760 --> 00:57:51.280
That gap theory, it kind of
makes sense, and not necessarily if

804
00:57:51.280 --> 00:57:54.199
it's a gap, But like I
said, there's no time for God times

805
00:57:54.199 --> 00:57:58.000
a thing He created for us,
like a man made thing, you know,

806
00:57:58.079 --> 00:58:01.159
like the skyclock. You know,
moon tells the month, the stars

807
00:58:01.159 --> 00:58:05.719
tell the season, the sun tells
the time of day, and it just

808
00:58:05.800 --> 00:58:09.280
makes so much more sense. And
and I think that that's one of the

809
00:58:09.280 --> 00:58:16.079
first divisions was separating that that biblical
astrology. I think they probably you know,

810
00:58:16.119 --> 00:58:20.920
they obviously renamed all the constellations and
everything, all the all the wandering

811
00:58:20.960 --> 00:58:25.440
stars into their pagan gods and goddesses
and stuff, and and that might be

812
00:58:25.480 --> 00:58:29.840
some of the stuff they left out
of the Bible, was the true names

813
00:58:29.880 --> 00:58:32.719
of the constellations and what they were
for and why people kind of do tend

814
00:58:32.719 --> 00:58:37.960
to act like the season they were
born in, you know, because yeah,

815
00:58:37.000 --> 00:58:43.199
the astrology is like a basic blanket
covering of people that were born on

816
00:58:43.239 --> 00:58:46.239
certain times. But people tend to
do act in those ways and tend to

817
00:58:46.760 --> 00:58:54.239
kind of what's the word like,
coordinate with that. Whether they choose to

818
00:58:54.360 --> 00:58:57.639
or not, it just kind of
happens, you know. I can I

819
00:58:57.679 --> 00:59:01.079
can see it with my children and
people I've known, and my grandmother.

820
00:59:01.119 --> 00:59:06.199
She was waiting that she would she
would do readings for people and and hypnotize

821
00:59:06.199 --> 00:59:08.960
people. And you know, it's
like the the millionaires watch the stock markets

822
00:59:08.960 --> 00:59:14.480
and the billionaires watch the stars.
She was into all that spiritual energy and

823
00:59:14.480 --> 00:59:16.519
and and when do the stuff for
people, that was like our past time

824
00:59:16.519 --> 00:59:22.079
on Christmas when she was alive,
was to watch her pull someone over in

825
00:59:22.119 --> 00:59:25.159
the corner and give them a reading
and hit all their notes and make them

826
00:59:25.199 --> 00:59:30.199
cry and make them have a new
understanding. And and you know, she

827
00:59:30.320 --> 00:59:36.559
was very not religious, but she
was very Christian in a way. She

828
00:59:36.599 --> 00:59:40.880
didn't go to church, but she
believed in that and was very I think

829
00:59:40.960 --> 00:59:47.039
she had that struggle of she believed
both things and didn't know how to unite

830
00:59:47.039 --> 00:59:52.559
them together. She didn't understand why
they were separate complains. I think they

831
00:59:52.559 --> 00:59:57.280
were separated. Yeah, because the
Pagans put their twist on it, ye

832
00:59:57.440 --> 01:00:02.280
to create that division. Really well
said, and I'm glad you mentioned the

833
01:00:02.320 --> 01:00:07.840
Samerians. I have a guess coming
on next week who is going to deep

834
01:00:07.880 --> 01:00:09.920
dive into that a little bit.
And I'm assuming you've read the Book of

835
01:00:10.079 --> 01:00:16.000
Enochs and really, you know,
you know it's funny. Tucker Carlson is

836
01:00:16.360 --> 01:00:21.280
one of these, another one of
these characters that they put out there all

837
01:00:21.400 --> 01:00:23.400
lah, if you need a hero, we'll give you one. And he

838
01:00:23.800 --> 01:00:28.960
has been talking about all the UFOs
and the declassifications and everything else. But

839
01:00:29.000 --> 01:00:32.639
in the latest interview he actually did
hint to these aren't actually you know,

840
01:00:32.719 --> 01:00:37.480
people in you know, little green
people from galaxies far far away. And

841
01:00:39.239 --> 01:00:44.000
again one of the books of the
Bible that's not included first Enox six to

842
01:00:44.079 --> 01:00:49.800
eleven, talks about how these giants
are the illegitimate offspring of falling angels.

843
01:00:50.119 --> 01:00:52.599
They consume the labor of all the
sons of men, they kill them,

844
01:00:52.599 --> 01:00:55.480
they devour them, and they drink
their blood. And these are the things

845
01:00:55.519 --> 01:01:01.960
that are are kind of hidden from
us. And where you from do you

846
01:01:01.960 --> 01:01:06.280
subscribe to the fact that everybody should
read them, should it be looked at

847
01:01:06.320 --> 01:01:12.239
as a supporting text. What are
your thoughts on the Apocryphy books. They're

848
01:01:12.280 --> 01:01:15.239
definitely next on my list. I've
read. I've read a little bit of

849
01:01:15.800 --> 01:01:19.400
some of the Enoch stuff and some
of the Jubilees and stuff. I think

850
01:01:19.440 --> 01:01:22.199
they were taken out for a reason. I think people should read them.

851
01:01:22.360 --> 01:01:24.760
I mean, the more knowledge.
I mean, you should read the bog

852
01:01:24.840 --> 01:01:30.199
of Gita. You should read all
that stuff and take whatever is positive and

853
01:01:30.239 --> 01:01:34.199
can be used for good out of
it and leave the rest. You know,

854
01:01:34.239 --> 01:01:38.079
you shouldn't be idol worshiping obviously and
into all the crazy stuff because obviously

855
01:01:38.199 --> 01:01:42.800
you can see it's fall and angel
stuff with the hybrid gods and everything.

856
01:01:43.199 --> 01:01:46.960
But I think there is information that's
useful and can help people in all those

857
01:01:47.000 --> 01:01:52.519
books and to help you understand the
bigger picture and to where it all plays

858
01:01:52.519 --> 01:01:57.199
together in the Bible. Like my
acronym for Bible. I didn't make this

859
01:01:57.280 --> 01:02:00.639
up, and I didn't make up
the you're giving me credit for the the

860
01:02:00.679 --> 01:02:04.199
effects and not the side effects.
I heard someone else say that on a

861
01:02:04.280 --> 01:02:08.320
on a different podcast. But H
Bible b I B L E. Basic

862
01:02:08.440 --> 01:02:14.599
instructions before leaving the Earth, and
I think that they simplified it down enough

863
01:02:14.679 --> 01:02:20.679
to that we're not going to get
the full understanding and the full connection that

864
01:02:20.679 --> 01:02:25.039
we should have. And so I
think people should read those books and should

865
01:02:25.039 --> 01:02:30.360
take the good information out of there
and apply it and and build a better

866
01:02:30.960 --> 01:02:37.360
foundation in a better perspective. I
could agree more. What what would you

867
01:02:37.400 --> 01:02:39.280
say as far as flatter Earth?
What was one of the first Was it

868
01:02:39.320 --> 01:02:43.559
a video? Was it a book? Was it was it a YouTube video?

869
01:02:44.360 --> 01:02:49.000
What kind of led you down the
path to flatter Earth? Yeah,

870
01:02:49.000 --> 01:02:51.559
I saw like a couple of videos
pop up, and I said, what

871
01:02:51.760 --> 01:02:52.679
is this? You know, because
like I said, I was into the

872
01:02:52.760 --> 01:02:57.800
ancient alien stuff. And then I
and one of the ones that really churned

873
01:02:57.800 --> 01:03:00.199
me was it was done here in
Utah Utah Lake and it was one of

874
01:03:00.239 --> 01:03:05.119
the laser tests, you know,
over curvature, and so like that,

875
01:03:05.199 --> 01:03:07.639
like I said, that's one of
my silver bullets is curvature. Their own

876
01:03:07.679 --> 01:03:10.159
formula does not work, you know, and curvature goes with being able to

877
01:03:10.159 --> 01:03:15.039
see too far the you know,
the Chicago skyline, you know, And

878
01:03:15.559 --> 01:03:20.960
I don't know, I'd like to
go do one out of the salt flats.

879
01:03:21.239 --> 01:03:23.039
But like I've seen so many of
the videos, it proved the curvature.

880
01:03:23.840 --> 01:03:28.199
You know, their their math equation
doesn't work. And then you know

881
01:03:28.360 --> 01:03:30.480
water always finds its level. And
just the words of that, you know,

882
01:03:30.480 --> 01:03:34.760
it's airplane, it's in the air, over the plane, it's horizon,

883
01:03:34.800 --> 01:03:37.079
it's horizontal. You know everything has
to be built level that we use

884
01:03:37.480 --> 01:03:44.719
water level bubbles to build stuff.
It just when I started just going down

885
01:03:44.800 --> 01:03:49.159
watching videos and it was just like, holy crap. And and I and

886
01:03:50.440 --> 01:03:52.440
TikTok was a good one when it
came out because there's so much stuff on

887
01:03:52.480 --> 01:03:57.079
there. And I knew when they
started bad mouthing TikTok that was why.

888
01:03:57.119 --> 01:03:59.800
Because they can't control it. It's
not part of their system. It's not

889
01:03:59.840 --> 01:04:02.719
their baby. You know, it's
not under one of their controllers. They're

890
01:04:02.760 --> 01:04:06.480
fake. They're fake heroes such as
Zuckerberg and Elon And like I said,

891
01:04:06.679 --> 01:04:12.679
you want a hero, they'll give
you one. And it's like you like,

892
01:04:12.760 --> 01:04:15.079
right now, everyone that was starting
to kind of doubt Trump, then

893
01:04:15.079 --> 01:04:18.400
you see the picture from the UFC
fight and you got Trump and Tucker and

894
01:04:18.480 --> 01:04:21.440
Kid Rock and a couple of people
like, oh, this is the best

895
01:04:21.480 --> 01:04:25.480
ever, and it's like, no, they're just trying to get at all

896
01:04:25.519 --> 01:04:29.440
those people in those different crowds,
those different tribes lined up, and it's

897
01:04:29.519 --> 01:04:34.119
like there's just so much stuff from
all the people he put into positions and

898
01:04:34.239 --> 01:04:39.079
didn't get rid of and things that
he did. Like I was watching a

899
01:04:39.119 --> 01:04:43.239
clip today, Operation Warp Speed,
Take the Pee Out, Operation War on

900
01:04:43.280 --> 01:04:47.079
the Seed. It's like they're just
it's like you want to believe, and

901
01:04:47.119 --> 01:04:49.440
you want to believe some of these
people might have been in it from the

902
01:04:49.480 --> 01:04:54.239
start and actually have turned over a
leaf. That's something I pray at night,

903
01:04:54.280 --> 01:04:56.440
as you know, says, pray
for the enemies, and I pray

904
01:04:56.519 --> 01:04:59.719
that we won't be deceived by the
wicked ones that want to do us harm.

905
01:04:59.719 --> 01:05:02.760
And I pray that the wicked people
can have a change of heart and

906
01:05:02.880 --> 01:05:06.039
to do good and that you know, the ones that can't, that we

907
01:05:06.079 --> 01:05:11.960
can defeat them. And it's just, you know, so when I just

908
01:05:12.000 --> 01:05:15.360
started just seeing all the building blocks, I got Dave's app. That's really

909
01:05:15.360 --> 01:05:20.639
fun. A lot of good stuff
on there. And it's like being exposed

910
01:05:20.679 --> 01:05:27.559
to astrology and stuff from my grandma
growing up and learning about how the astrology

911
01:05:27.599 --> 01:05:30.639
and the Biblical cosmology was such a
big thing back in the times of when

912
01:05:30.719 --> 01:05:35.519
Jesus was getting in trouble for going
against some of the stuff that the Synagogues

913
01:05:35.559 --> 01:05:43.360
and the Hebrews were teaching, and
the druids and stuff. It all relates,

914
01:05:43.360 --> 01:05:46.599
and it's all been corrupted and divided. So yeah, it just so

915
01:05:47.039 --> 01:05:50.599
like the curvature was a big one
for me, because if you're saying we're

916
01:05:50.599 --> 01:05:57.039
living on a ball, nothing hands
out to your math, it can't be.

917
01:05:57.199 --> 01:06:00.199
It's it's just you know, I
live here in Salt Lake, been

918
01:06:00.239 --> 01:06:01.599
up on the move, been ski
and since I could walk, snowboarding,

919
01:06:01.639 --> 01:06:06.920
and you're coming down that cannon and
you can see out forever when you're up

920
01:06:06.960 --> 01:06:12.920
there. You know, it's just
and I couldn't even calculate the miles,

921
01:06:12.960 --> 01:06:16.280
you know, it's just. Were
you able to connect the dots pretty quickly

922
01:06:16.320 --> 01:06:20.000
when you understood that the globe is
a deception? Did you connect the dots

923
01:06:20.039 --> 01:06:27.480
pretty quickly? Why they work so
hard to minimalize flat Earth and to push

924
01:06:28.000 --> 01:06:31.920
the ball agenda. Yeah, So
as soon as that started falling into place,

925
01:06:31.960 --> 01:06:33.760
it's like, oh, I get
it now, this is just part

926
01:06:33.840 --> 01:06:39.360
of the them keeping us away from
God, Like the whole science is to

927
01:06:39.519 --> 01:06:43.880
lead people away from God. It
just totally, like I said, how

928
01:06:43.880 --> 01:06:47.920
it brings people back to God.
I was a scientism, wasn't an atheist.

929
01:06:47.920 --> 01:06:51.360
I always believed in God, and
I would always when I would argue

930
01:06:51.400 --> 01:06:56.960
with Christian people growing up, I
would always throw the teachings of Jesus in

931
01:06:57.000 --> 01:06:59.639
their face. I'd say, well, that's not what Jesus did, That's

932
01:06:59.679 --> 01:07:01.880
not what Jesus taught, That's not
what Jesus. You know, they would

933
01:07:01.880 --> 01:07:04.360
all wear them what would Jesus do
bracelets. I'm like, that's not what

934
01:07:04.440 --> 01:07:09.000
Jesus would do. And it would
really piss them off, and stuff like,

935
01:07:09.039 --> 01:07:12.239
well, you're the one here saying
that you're a fallower for Christ,

936
01:07:12.280 --> 01:07:15.599
but you don't play the game.
You're not, you know, you just

937
01:07:15.639 --> 01:07:16.679
go, like you said, go
to church for an hour on Sunday,

938
01:07:16.760 --> 01:07:20.039
or you know, go to a
meeting on Wednesday night, or it's just

939
01:07:20.199 --> 01:07:26.679
not you know, yep. Yeah. And that was the biggest thing for

940
01:07:26.760 --> 01:07:30.159
me, My goodness, gracious,
and there's a range of emotions, and

941
01:07:30.159 --> 01:07:33.920
I'm sure it was very much the
same for you. How do you once

942
01:07:33.960 --> 01:07:40.000
you realized the deception, how were
you able to translate to your wife.

943
01:07:40.000 --> 01:07:45.039
How did she take that? She? I think she can see it.

944
01:07:45.599 --> 01:07:51.280
She's not. She proclaims to be
a wickan, but she doesn't practice magic.

945
01:07:51.880 --> 01:07:56.159
She doesn't, you know what I
mean. I think she more goes

946
01:07:56.159 --> 01:07:59.679
along that line because it was something
cool growing up. It was a trendy

947
01:08:00.480 --> 01:08:04.719
and I think it's kind of a
rebellious thing because of how it was portrayed

948
01:08:04.760 --> 01:08:10.000
in history. These these crazy people
were burning people as witches when they probably

949
01:08:10.000 --> 01:08:14.960
weren't. They were probably actually following
just because they knew how to use herbs,

950
01:08:15.079 --> 01:08:19.159
the natural God given medicine to heal
you. And to this day they're

951
01:08:19.159 --> 01:08:25.640
doing the same. They'll they'll take
your license away. And so she is

952
01:08:25.680 --> 01:08:29.079
on board. She just doesn't get
in it. She she hates it.

953
01:08:29.119 --> 01:08:31.840
I'm so deep in the conspiracies and
I bring it home and so it's it's

954
01:08:31.840 --> 01:08:35.199
good to have other people to talk
to. I do have a small circle

955
01:08:35.239 --> 01:08:40.640
I can talk to. My mom's
been My mom's been pretty good at accepting

956
01:08:40.680 --> 01:08:43.119
it, because, like you said, how do you approach people, how

957
01:08:43.119 --> 01:08:45.800
do you drop the bread crumbs it? It depends on the person. If

958
01:08:45.840 --> 01:08:48.880
it's a if it's a religious person, you got to give them Bible stuff.

959
01:08:49.079 --> 01:08:53.640
Yeah, it's a if it's a
non religious person, if it's an

960
01:08:53.640 --> 01:08:57.720
atheist or scientism person, you've got
to give them science. And so that's

961
01:08:57.760 --> 01:09:00.199
the approach. Like I don't know
where my mom, but I've sent her

962
01:09:00.239 --> 01:09:03.279
a ton of your podcast. I've
I've sent her a bunch of stuff,

963
01:09:03.319 --> 01:09:09.840
and I used the religious angle on
her a lot. And I think I

964
01:09:09.840 --> 01:09:15.159
think she's just in that confused stage, like she doesn't understand like why the

965
01:09:15.239 --> 01:09:16.920
line, but she does, she
does, but she doesn't, like she's

966
01:09:17.039 --> 01:09:21.239
it's hard for her to accept.
You know, she's just turned sixty seven.

967
01:09:21.319 --> 01:09:27.760
She's you know, just been full
blown in the indoctrination TV and everything

968
01:09:27.880 --> 01:09:30.159
her whole life. And you know, get the white dude in the white

969
01:09:30.239 --> 01:09:34.840
lab coat telling you what's right and
what's wrong and every system there is,

970
01:09:34.920 --> 01:09:42.119
like that's why most doctors choose camel
cigarettes. Yep. Oh yeah, it's

971
01:09:42.159 --> 01:09:45.720
amazing. How getting back to the
political thing, I wanted to touch on

972
01:09:45.800 --> 01:09:49.199
it before I forgot. We talk
about things like we can't believe we bought

973
01:09:49.239 --> 01:09:53.960
into like helio centrism and many of
the other things. But the other thing

974
01:09:54.520 --> 01:09:57.520
that I'm very upset at myself for
allowing to be a part of for so

975
01:09:57.600 --> 01:10:02.239
long. Is the Team Left versus
Team Right? And moreover, more importantly

976
01:10:02.279 --> 01:10:08.399
than that, is putting my faith
into other people, saying if this person

977
01:10:08.560 --> 01:10:12.920
isn't elected, then I'm not going
to be free like that. The mind

978
01:10:13.000 --> 01:10:17.279
manipulation of people is so deep.
And there's some days while I'll go outside,

979
01:10:17.600 --> 01:10:20.479
I'll put out my camp and chair. It can be thirty degrees and

980
01:10:20.520 --> 01:10:25.039
I'll just sit out there for hours
and think this whole process everything is,

981
01:10:25.600 --> 01:10:30.159
Everything is intertwined, from elections to
Team Left to Team Right, to the

982
01:10:30.279 --> 01:10:34.279
earth, to school to your corporate
churches, and just it's all tied in

983
01:10:34.920 --> 01:10:43.359
to make you just so confused and
to make you forget that you were in

984
01:10:43.439 --> 01:10:48.359
control of your life, that you
control what happens tomorrow. Yeah, it's

985
01:10:48.399 --> 01:10:54.279
all to make you lost in space, lost in space, and it's just,

986
01:10:54.640 --> 01:10:58.680
you know, that's not what Jesus's
message was. It's we all have

987
01:10:58.800 --> 01:11:01.680
that touch of us. We all
can walk that path, we all have

988
01:11:01.800 --> 01:11:05.119
the power to do, you know, to basically, you know, not

989
01:11:05.239 --> 01:11:09.760
be Him, but live that same
walk that same road and be that strong

990
01:11:09.800 --> 01:11:15.880
and not let the wicked ones control
us. But they've done such a just

991
01:11:15.920 --> 01:11:20.039
a good job of doing that and
and just you know, divide and conquer.

992
01:11:20.119 --> 01:11:23.840
It's just you know, like I
said, they run the same playbooks

993
01:11:23.840 --> 01:11:28.159
over and over and and people just
feel like what can I do to stop

994
01:11:28.159 --> 01:11:30.199
its? Like, well, you
got it. First of all, you

995
01:11:30.279 --> 01:11:32.199
gotta get right with God, and
you gotta fuck or you gotta believe in

996
01:11:32.239 --> 01:11:39.399
yourself. You can't just you can't
be scared of them because they are the

997
01:11:39.720 --> 01:11:44.600
few percent. They are the you
know, and whatever they can do to

998
01:11:44.640 --> 01:11:47.239
you, you got to have faith
that. Like when they this guy was

999
01:11:47.239 --> 01:11:50.479
breaking down the armor of God the
other day, it's all for the front

1000
01:11:50.520 --> 01:11:55.319
of you, helmet, breastplate,
belt, shield, sword boots, nothing

1001
01:11:55.359 --> 01:11:59.279
for your back because God's got your
back. I was kid, I work

1002
01:11:59.359 --> 01:12:03.680
up with He's on page with this. We have deep discussions. Yeah.

1003
01:12:03.800 --> 01:12:05.760
I told him that their days.
Well, that gave me the chills.

1004
01:12:05.760 --> 01:12:09.600
And I'm like, because it's the
truth, Like, that's that's why you're

1005
01:12:09.640 --> 01:12:13.439
not supposed to run away and let
them chase you off. You're not supposed

1006
01:12:13.479 --> 01:12:15.239
to stand here and kill them all. But you're supposed to stand your ground

1007
01:12:15.279 --> 01:12:21.359
and face it and have the faith
like just be hit it head on and

1008
01:12:21.359 --> 01:12:26.359
people respect that. Going back to
again with COVID. While I'd walk into

1009
01:12:26.399 --> 01:12:29.680
Walmart without our mask, for every
one person who would give me the scowl,

1010
01:12:29.960 --> 01:12:32.000
there would be another person would kind
of nod and appreciate the fact that

1011
01:12:32.039 --> 01:12:39.159
people had the testicular fortitude to stand
up against you know, the government.

1012
01:12:40.159 --> 01:12:46.680
Again, stop believing that another human
being gives you your rights. Okay,

1013
01:12:47.119 --> 01:12:50.760
that nothing could be further from the
truth. And again, it's going to

1014
01:12:50.840 --> 01:12:55.279
take a lot of work. Excuse
me, it's going to take a lot

1015
01:12:55.279 --> 01:13:00.960
of courage and for people to get
out of their comfort zone and to start

1016
01:13:00.039 --> 01:13:05.119
having these discussions in public with family
members and with friends to get them to

1017
01:13:05.199 --> 01:13:11.279
see the truth. Now again,
like you said with your mom, and

1018
01:13:11.960 --> 01:13:14.880
you know, I'm an older guy
too, My goodness, I'll be fifty

1019
01:13:14.880 --> 01:13:16.680
five in July. I was just
in high school like two days ago.

1020
01:13:17.079 --> 01:13:20.720
I don't know what happened. But
obviously the older the person, it can

1021
01:13:20.760 --> 01:13:24.880
be a little more. It's not
always the case, but it can be

1022
01:13:24.920 --> 01:13:28.439
more difficult to kind of unwind that
in doctrination. But at some point we

1023
01:13:28.520 --> 01:13:30.960
have to put our foot down and
put a stop to the way society is

1024
01:13:31.000 --> 01:13:36.479
going before literally before it's too late, because where we are today, we're

1025
01:13:36.520 --> 01:13:41.399
in a scary place. Not to
spread the fear porn and not to make

1026
01:13:41.399 --> 01:13:45.119
people worry, but we are in
I'm very worried about this coming year twenty

1027
01:13:45.159 --> 01:13:49.920
twenty four because we know in the
United States when there's an election here,

1028
01:13:50.640 --> 01:14:00.560
they try to get things out of
control to have certain outcomes. This I

1029
01:14:00.600 --> 01:14:02.359
would say, if you're thinking about
trying to wake people up and get them

1030
01:14:02.359 --> 01:14:05.920
to understand how the world really works, I would suggest you try to do

1031
01:14:05.960 --> 01:14:12.000
so sooner than later. And with
that being said, have you had any

1032
01:14:12.039 --> 01:14:17.479
success kind of waking people up?
Probably my mom a little bit. My

1033
01:14:17.840 --> 01:14:21.600
half brother he's been he's been awake
for a while. He's one of the

1034
01:14:21.600 --> 01:14:25.159
people I can talk to about it. He doesn't really have I don't think,

1035
01:14:25.640 --> 01:14:28.119
anyone to talk to about and I
keep trying to tell him, like,

1036
01:14:30.880 --> 01:14:32.720
our group here is bigger than you
think. There's more of us that

1037
01:14:32.880 --> 01:14:39.000
are can see this stuff and think
the same way than you think. And

1038
01:14:41.000 --> 01:14:44.720
some of my friends not really there. Like I've had a pretty tight group

1039
01:14:44.720 --> 01:14:47.000
of friends, but like I said, they're pretty indoctrinated. They're in that

1040
01:14:47.920 --> 01:14:51.560
we just want to you know,
we just want to have a beer and

1041
01:14:51.600 --> 01:14:57.239
smoke one and chill. And they
don't believe and they just can't see it.

1042
01:14:57.399 --> 01:15:01.479
Like my one friend he told me
about is probably almost twenty years ago,

1043
01:15:01.640 --> 01:15:08.000
wow, because his uncle was on
it. And but he is trying

1044
01:15:08.000 --> 01:15:12.319
to tell me when COVID happened to
go get Go get the jab like you

1045
01:15:12.600 --> 01:15:14.920
say, you know, and he's
already had I know, at least one

1046
01:15:15.000 --> 01:15:16.560
or two booster and it's like,
dude, how like you know, they

1047
01:15:16.600 --> 01:15:19.159
can see one part of it,
they can't see the other, can't connect

1048
01:15:19.199 --> 01:15:25.840
the dots. Yeah, And so
my friend group's pretty softwered quite a bit.

1049
01:15:27.760 --> 01:15:29.399
Like I said, I grew up
sex, drugs, and rock and

1050
01:15:29.520 --> 01:15:32.439
roll. I just celebrated my two
years sober anniversary. Oh God, blessing

1051
01:15:33.000 --> 01:15:36.880
December eleventh. Uh. You know, I grew up in a bar.

1052
01:15:38.000 --> 01:15:42.000
Like I grew up, alcohol was
cool. And alcohol is definitely the gayway

1053
01:15:42.079 --> 01:15:45.319
drug. It's called spirits for a
reason. Ye you know. They labeled

1054
01:15:45.319 --> 01:15:48.039
it as marijuana, but it's definitely
alcohol. I agree from my experience.

1055
01:15:48.119 --> 01:15:51.359
I sold it for fifteen years,
and I was in it for you know,

1056
01:15:53.640 --> 01:15:58.039
longer than that. I probably started
drinking when I was seventeen and I'm

1057
01:15:58.079 --> 01:16:02.560
forty two now, so I quit
when I was forty. It's just you

1058
01:16:02.680 --> 01:16:08.560
get what I call it the F
word, the efforts when you get past

1059
01:16:08.640 --> 01:16:11.520
your point of drinking where it doesn't
matter. Oh yeah, eft, let's

1060
01:16:11.520 --> 01:16:14.680
go do this, or yeah we'll
do that. It's just and you can

1061
01:16:14.680 --> 01:16:19.119
physically, I physically just watch people
change when they're intoxicated for being behind that

1062
01:16:19.199 --> 01:16:23.960
bar. As a poor Man's psychologist
said, listen to their problems, and

1063
01:16:24.359 --> 01:16:30.079
everyone's drinking to to feel happy and
to alleviate their anxieties. And really what

1064
01:16:30.119 --> 01:16:33.920
it does is it'll either it might
change you for a moment. You might

1065
01:16:33.960 --> 01:16:36.560
get happy. You might have a
couple of drinks and a song comes on

1066
01:16:36.640 --> 01:16:43.720
and you feel good. But eventually
it's just gonna accelerate that state of mind

1067
01:16:43.720 --> 01:16:47.800
you're trying to alleviate. It doesn't
it doesn't kill any problems. It just

1068
01:16:48.479 --> 01:16:51.479
it just kind of puts them to
the back burner, just a distraction for

1069
01:16:51.520 --> 01:16:59.520
a minute. And like I said, when part of me waking up was

1070
01:17:00.119 --> 01:17:02.640
we used to do a camp out
every year with our small group and we

1071
01:17:02.680 --> 01:17:09.159
would have a big dose of a
psilocybin, psychedelic mushroom tea and and sit

1072
01:17:09.199 --> 01:17:12.880
around the fire and get deep,
laugh and cry and go through all of

1073
01:17:12.880 --> 01:17:15.520
it. And I remember, I
haven't done it now for the last two

1074
01:17:15.600 --> 01:17:24.359
years, and the one four years
ago we did a lot. We went

1075
01:17:24.439 --> 01:17:29.239
big, they called a heroic dose. And I saw the firmament that night.

1076
01:17:29.680 --> 01:17:31.880
I was standing out there and what
it what it looked like to me

1077
01:17:32.239 --> 01:17:36.600
was like the domes in the churches
in the Capitol buildings, and then with

1078
01:17:36.760 --> 01:17:42.039
like the sacred geometry, the diamonds
and the honeycombs, and it was just

1079
01:17:42.079 --> 01:17:44.560
this giant and I, you know, I was like I was seeing it.

1080
01:17:44.880 --> 01:17:46.119
And that was when I first was
kind of getting into it, and

1081
01:17:46.159 --> 01:17:51.399
I was just like, oh my
god. And I was trying to talk

1082
01:17:51.439 --> 01:17:55.039
to a couple buddies about like do
you see this or you see like can

1083
01:17:55.039 --> 01:17:58.039
you you know? And of course
they're so in doctor, Oh no,

1084
01:17:58.119 --> 01:18:00.800
that's stupid. You know, We're
on a globe spinning, and and it's

1085
01:18:00.840 --> 01:18:03.920
like, you know, and just
couldn't see weren't seeing what I was seeing.

1086
01:18:03.960 --> 01:18:09.239
And and then it talks about those
references, you know, we used

1087
01:18:09.279 --> 01:18:13.840
to hear the stars saying, well, out where we would go, you

1088
01:18:13.840 --> 01:18:17.560
can really see the ple eightes that
of stars. It looks like it's always

1089
01:18:18.079 --> 01:18:24.000
moving and manipulating and like dancing.
And so me and my one friend we

1090
01:18:24.159 --> 01:18:29.119
always would stare at that and just
like what is that is it? Is

1091
01:18:29.159 --> 01:18:31.199
it like a Morse code? Is
it sending us a message? Is it

1092
01:18:31.319 --> 01:18:34.800
saying something? And then when I
heard the people bring that up about how

1093
01:18:34.800 --> 01:18:38.479
we used to like, yeah,
we just probably can't hear what it's saying

1094
01:18:38.479 --> 01:18:45.159
anymore. We in the old days
when people were connected properly and and understood

1095
01:18:45.199 --> 01:18:49.720
it better. Probably you know,
it was giving a confirmation of God and

1096
01:18:49.840 --> 01:18:56.359
spirituality. You know, yeah,
one hundred percent. That goes all the

1097
01:18:56.399 --> 01:19:00.119
way back to again, those old
ancient people were dumb, and we've really,

1098
01:19:00.159 --> 01:19:04.079
with technology and everything else, we've
just become out of touch with nature

1099
01:19:04.119 --> 01:19:10.319
and God's creation. I couldn't agree
anymore with you. You had mentioned that

1100
01:19:10.640 --> 01:19:16.439
curvature was one of your silver bullets. What were your others that you had?

1101
01:19:15.840 --> 01:19:23.520
The movements in space, you know, like we're spinning one thousand,

1102
01:19:23.760 --> 01:19:28.800
then going sixty thousand, and then
we're chasing the sun through space at five

1103
01:19:28.880 --> 01:19:32.159
hundred thousand miles an hour, Like
people can't even fathom these speeds. So

1104
01:19:32.960 --> 01:19:36.520
in like the space station, like
all the NASA stuff, like the moon

1105
01:19:36.600 --> 01:19:40.960
landing. I mean you just look
at it now. Even as a kid,

1106
01:19:41.520 --> 01:19:44.359
I remember looking at it going,
oh, it's cool, but it

1107
01:19:44.399 --> 01:19:47.640
never resonated like what we actually did. And then when you hear, oh,

1108
01:19:47.600 --> 01:19:50.399
well the moon reflects the sun might
well why was it so dark on

1109
01:19:50.439 --> 01:19:54.119
the moon, And like you've brought
up, why isn't any of the moon

1110
01:19:54.199 --> 01:19:57.239
dust popping up in the air.
Why isn't there dust clouds all over?

1111
01:19:57.319 --> 01:20:03.760
And then the space station, it's
going seventeen thousand miles an hour. Well,

1112
01:20:03.760 --> 01:20:08.000
whether it's going the same direction we
spin or the opposite, we should

1113
01:20:08.000 --> 01:20:11.239
be seeing it zoom across the sky
like sixteen times a day, fifteen times

1114
01:20:11.279 --> 01:20:14.319
a day. There should be the
streak because people don't know how fast is.

1115
01:20:14.439 --> 01:20:15.680
Yeah, plane looks slow, but
it's only going a couple hundred miles

1116
01:20:15.680 --> 01:20:21.239
an hour. People can't understand seventeen
thousand miles an hour like that thing should

1117
01:20:21.239 --> 01:20:27.399
be shooting across the sky like a
shooting star fifteen to sixteen times a day

1118
01:20:27.680 --> 01:20:31.000
like a streak. Yeah, and
it's literally going like yeah, it's like

1119
01:20:31.039 --> 01:20:36.039
thirty four times faster than like a
seven sixty seven, right, And it's

1120
01:20:36.039 --> 01:20:38.880
like, oh, we have an
app that you can watch it, and

1121
01:20:38.920 --> 01:20:43.600
it's like, yeah, but the
app it's just showing it going so slow,

1122
01:20:43.680 --> 01:20:45.079
and it's not it's showing oh,
here you can see it at night

1123
01:20:45.119 --> 01:20:48.119
come by. Yeah, that should
be like the fifteenth time it's come by

1124
01:20:48.199 --> 01:20:49.920
or the tenth time, you know, Like I said, it should be

1125
01:20:49.960 --> 01:20:55.800
coming across multiple times a day.
And people doing space walks on a vehicle

1126
01:20:55.800 --> 01:21:00.000
that's going that fast. It's just
right and it's never been hit by any

1127
01:21:00.159 --> 01:21:06.079
space to breathe it right there,
all yeah, unbelievable. And then just

1128
01:21:06.119 --> 01:21:10.000
the fact that you know they won't
emit the firmament, but there's the van

1129
01:21:10.039 --> 01:21:15.000
Allen radiation belt and you know,
the temperatures of melting of aluminum and what

1130
01:21:15.319 --> 01:21:18.279
the crafts were made out of.
They can't go through it. And speaking

1131
01:21:18.359 --> 01:21:23.319
like you've always been asking people lately
about stars and stuff, I think stars

1132
01:21:23.359 --> 01:21:26.800
are our angels and I think their
souls. I think that we probably become

1133
01:21:26.800 --> 01:21:30.319
a star if you pass on to
the next realm and you get to that

1134
01:21:30.359 --> 01:21:36.000
next level of the inside or beyond
the firmament and like shooting stars like that,

1135
01:21:36.119 --> 01:21:40.039
you know, they always come down
whenever sees them go up. Well,

1136
01:21:40.039 --> 01:21:44.720
that the concept of the Bible always
talks about the firmament being blue sapphire,

1137
01:21:44.760 --> 01:21:49.079
and our sky is blue. And
how that one guy's done that scientific

1138
01:21:49.159 --> 01:21:55.079
experiment with the electromagnification of the oxygen
that makes it like this blue, hard

1139
01:21:55.119 --> 01:21:59.560
and crystal. Well, how many
things do they shoot up into that thing

1140
01:21:59.600 --> 01:22:01.920
and try and blow it up.
That's what falling stars and some of that

1141
01:22:01.960 --> 01:22:05.479
can be is chunks of that coming
down, burning up, and then it

1142
01:22:05.520 --> 01:22:10.520
just burns up in the atmosphere and
then I'm sure it heals itself. It's

1143
01:22:10.520 --> 01:22:13.600
God to be able to heal itself
or otherwise there be a bunch of water

1144
01:22:13.840 --> 01:22:16.680
forming through it. And you know, yeah, and obviously yeah, and

1145
01:22:16.680 --> 01:22:20.199
I've said before, obviously I believe
God made it to where only He can

1146
01:22:20.239 --> 01:22:24.800
destroy the earth. That's why I
think that the nuke thing, Oh,

1147
01:22:24.840 --> 01:22:28.680
we can destroy the earth seventy times
over. No, you can't, because

1148
01:22:29.039 --> 01:22:32.520
God created and only God. And
that's what I tell people in church.

1149
01:22:32.560 --> 01:22:36.960
I got not an argument, but
somebody had mentioned in church one of the

1150
01:22:36.960 --> 01:22:41.920
times that we were there about you
know, Putin and the nuclear missiles,

1151
01:22:41.960 --> 01:22:44.319
this and that, and I said, only God. I was like,

1152
01:22:44.399 --> 01:22:49.800
if we could destroy the earth at
will, then that would completely eliminate revelations

1153
01:22:50.359 --> 01:22:57.119
right right, that the prophecy would
not If that happened tomorrow, then what's

1154
01:22:57.239 --> 01:23:00.359
the prophecy for? And all of
it, everything, the deception is so

1155
01:23:00.520 --> 01:23:04.319
deep. And you know, it's
funny once you're on this side of the

1156
01:23:04.319 --> 01:23:09.439
fence because listen, all of us
at some point, for whether it was

1157
01:23:09.600 --> 01:23:12.880
we were a little awake or a
lot awake, and there's always people who

1158
01:23:13.079 --> 01:23:15.279
you know, well, we were
all there. Yeah, we were all

1159
01:23:15.319 --> 01:23:19.720
there at some point. It's so
frustrating when we're on this side. It's

1160
01:23:19.800 --> 01:23:24.840
like, man, please see it. And that's my favorite movie is They

1161
01:23:24.880 --> 01:23:29.159
Live And when when Roddy Piper and
the other guy are fighting and he's just

1162
01:23:29.239 --> 01:23:32.840
trying to put the glasses on that
guy. That is my life. That's

1163
01:23:32.880 --> 01:23:36.279
what I feel like. And that's
like you said, I haven't had much

1164
01:23:36.319 --> 01:23:40.239
luck waking anyone up, because that's
how it feels like. I was like,

1165
01:23:40.760 --> 01:23:43.319
come on, just look at it, and they just won't. They

1166
01:23:43.359 --> 01:23:47.159
don't, like they don't want their
comfort destroyed and I'm like, like,

1167
01:23:47.239 --> 01:23:50.760
if you think that this is gonna, you know, hurt your comfort,

1168
01:23:50.960 --> 01:23:56.760
wait till if they succeed in their
plan and you got to really find it

1169
01:23:56.760 --> 01:24:00.239
out the hard way's have no preparation
and no one understanding and you have a

1170
01:24:00.279 --> 01:24:04.880
mental breakdown during the middle of it. Yeah, yeah, one hundred percent.

1171
01:24:05.159 --> 01:24:08.960
You know, I thought we actually
made some progress. I think three

1172
01:24:08.960 --> 01:24:13.439
months ago, when you know the
hacker group Anonymous they made that eight minute

1173
01:24:13.479 --> 01:24:15.640
video on flat Earth. I'm like, Wow, this is actually getting mainstream.

1174
01:24:15.960 --> 01:24:20.800
And then two days later it's just
it didn't like everything else. That's

1175
01:24:20.840 --> 01:24:26.199
that's cool story, bro. I
sent it to one of my friends that's

1176
01:24:26.239 --> 01:24:30.039
way into it and he's laughing about
it. Oh, it improves your critical

1177
01:24:30.079 --> 01:24:32.640
thinking skills, and oh, I
can't wait to share this. And I'm

1178
01:24:32.680 --> 01:24:35.920
like and I'm like, I'm glad
that you're heading on the video, and

1179
01:24:35.960 --> 01:24:40.239
I hope you do share it because
it's going to back. You're trying to

1180
01:24:40.239 --> 01:24:43.079
share it because you think it's stupid. Yep, some of the people that

1181
01:24:43.119 --> 01:24:46.000
you share to are going to wake
up. It's going to click. So

1182
01:24:46.039 --> 01:24:49.520
I was like, even though he's
completely against it, that's awesome. Please

1183
01:24:49.520 --> 01:24:53.680
share it as much as you can, because it you know. And I

1184
01:24:53.720 --> 01:24:58.239
tried to share with him your episode
with Raoul. Shout out to Raoul and

1185
01:24:58.279 --> 01:25:00.439
Alex and Claudia from a mental It's
one of my favorite shows. That was

1186
01:25:00.640 --> 01:25:06.319
great Grand Years, probably the two
biggest I listened to. And I shared

1187
01:25:06.319 --> 01:25:10.760
that his first time on here on
your on Flatter Files with a lot of

1188
01:25:10.800 --> 01:25:14.399
people and say, look, this
guy kind of went through a life like

1189
01:25:14.439 --> 01:25:16.520
I did. And so you know, if we haven't talked for a while,

1190
01:25:16.520 --> 01:25:18.560
if you're kind of wondering where my
head's at, where I'm at,

1191
01:25:18.920 --> 01:25:25.520
listen to this episode. It's pretty
much not the same, but like similar,

1192
01:25:25.560 --> 01:25:29.119
Like you'll listen to his journey and
what's gone on and where he's at.

1193
01:25:29.159 --> 01:25:31.720
And that's the best I can explain
it if you're if you're wondering at

1194
01:25:31.720 --> 01:25:34.159
this time in our lives. Yeah, And that's interesting you say that,

1195
01:25:34.239 --> 01:25:38.880
because I if I post a picture
of my dog on Facebook, it'll get

1196
01:25:38.880 --> 01:25:42.239
you know, I have a very
small private group. You know, it'll

1197
01:25:42.239 --> 01:25:46.119
get twenty or thirty lakes. But
I actually put the anonymous video and I

1198
01:25:46.159 --> 01:25:51.439
put please take eight minutes and watch
this. It didn't get not one nobody

1199
01:25:51.439 --> 01:25:56.359
paid attention to it. And then
that's so frustrating for me that you know,

1200
01:25:56.800 --> 01:25:59.920
you know, we're near the Philly
metropolitan area. So but hey,

1201
01:26:00.000 --> 01:26:03.079
the Eagles one, you'll you'll get
twenty lights or here's my chicken playing with

1202
01:26:03.119 --> 01:26:08.520
my dog twenty likes. But you
know, like you said, here is

1203
01:26:08.560 --> 01:26:11.359
where I am at the age of
fifty four, This is where I am

1204
01:26:11.359 --> 01:26:15.079
at in my journey in life.
And it's I don't have my cricket thing

1205
01:26:15.159 --> 01:26:19.079
preloaded here, otherwise i'd hit you
know, crickets. But it's just so

1206
01:26:19.199 --> 01:26:24.520
interesting that really goes to show once
again where we are as a society,

1207
01:26:25.000 --> 01:26:28.640
that they'll pay attention to football scores, they'll pay attention to cute things,

1208
01:26:29.199 --> 01:26:32.520
right. And no, I'm not
knocking TikTok because, like you said,

1209
01:26:32.560 --> 01:26:35.880
it's something that can't be controlled by
the folks in this country. That's why

1210
01:26:35.880 --> 01:26:40.319
they hate it so much. But
I think our tension span has almost become

1211
01:26:40.399 --> 01:26:43.560
TikTok. Right, two three minutes
is all we can really focus on.

1212
01:26:43.640 --> 01:26:45.680
Then we're on to the next thing. Most of the people, yeah,

1213
01:26:45.680 --> 01:26:49.760
there are few people that listen to
podcasts and can you know, digest an

1214
01:26:49.760 --> 01:26:54.159
hour and you know. I I
started out when I was driving truck.

1215
01:26:54.159 --> 01:26:57.439
I listened to Rogan a lot,
and I can't listen to it anymore.

1216
01:26:57.479 --> 01:27:00.520
I can't either same show over and
over, his same narrative, his same

1217
01:27:00.560 --> 01:27:05.039
perspective. You know, he used
to be he used to challenge and go

1218
01:27:05.039 --> 01:27:09.279
go in on some things and be
open minded. And then after he did

1219
01:27:09.279 --> 01:27:14.640
the episodes with Malone and the other
doctor, they shut him down and told

1220
01:27:14.720 --> 01:27:17.680
him who's who and what's what,
and he completely changed his tune. And

1221
01:27:18.079 --> 01:27:20.880
like I said, the last time, one of the last episodes I listened

1222
01:27:20.920 --> 01:27:27.640
to was the last time Neil de
clown Tyson was on there. And all

1223
01:27:27.680 --> 01:27:30.239
he was on there to do was
promote his book and used Joe's platform.

1224
01:27:30.439 --> 01:27:34.920
Yep, he didn't not one iowa
what Joe had to say, didn't care

1225
01:27:35.000 --> 01:27:40.079
anything. Was he almost was very
disrespectful and was just like, here's my

1226
01:27:40.119 --> 01:27:44.159
book, here's my racist perspectives,
and here's my Space stuff, and I

1227
01:27:44.239 --> 01:27:46.880
don't care what you have to say, and I don't care who others podcast

1228
01:27:46.960 --> 01:27:49.720
or person you suggest me to talk
to. It was just like wow,

1229
01:27:49.760 --> 01:27:55.239
it's very it was very ugly.
And so I haven't listened to his show

1230
01:27:55.359 --> 01:27:59.960
now for over a year probably,
and just been listening to a bunch of

1231
01:28:00.039 --> 01:28:04.520
other podcast Yours Tenfold Hat with Sam
Tripleal, like his watch a lot of

1232
01:28:04.560 --> 01:28:09.439
John Levi videos. Yeah, every
Sunday he comes out. My wife loves

1233
01:28:09.479 --> 01:28:12.560
John Levi. I'm like, it's
Sunday morning. I'm barely awake. John's

1234
01:28:12.560 --> 01:28:15.600
put me to sleep. Put it
on one point five speed. I gotta

1235
01:28:15.640 --> 01:28:17.439
listen to it. I listen to
it BA and I'll slow down when there's

1236
01:28:17.439 --> 01:28:20.279
something to look at. And then
he's great that I work with. He

1237
01:28:20.279 --> 01:28:23.840
he really loves John Lee, but
that's his guy. He's good. He's

1238
01:28:24.279 --> 01:28:26.840
of the ones. And then I
like Doctor Narcolongo and I love all the

1239
01:28:26.920 --> 01:28:30.079
Hitler stuff, and I hate how
they diss on on John. But it's

1240
01:28:30.119 --> 01:28:34.359
like John's just trying to come from
a spot he doesn't so he's not going

1241
01:28:34.439 --> 01:28:38.760
to act or pretend like he does, you know, and and to come

1242
01:28:39.800 --> 01:28:42.760
full spectrum as they know for sure. It's like, well, you you

1243
01:28:42.960 --> 01:28:45.039
do have a good insight on it, but you don't know for sure,

1244
01:28:45.079 --> 01:28:47.800
so don't you know? So that
just kind of it's just more that division

1245
01:28:47.800 --> 01:28:51.119
with our own community, like you
know, you're hating on the guy because

1246
01:28:51.119 --> 01:28:55.079
he presents it as he does it
well, he doesn't like and he's not

1247
01:28:55.159 --> 01:28:59.079
trying to pretend like he's a know
it all. He's just trying to that's

1248
01:28:59.079 --> 01:29:00.880
his angle. I don't know,
Well, this is look at it?

1249
01:29:00.920 --> 01:29:04.359
Do you know what it is like? Please keep questioning, keep speculating,

1250
01:29:05.159 --> 01:29:08.920
And that's what I try to do
here. I don't know everything. I

1251
01:29:08.960 --> 01:29:12.880
know a little bit about almost everything, but I'm not really a subject matter

1252
01:29:12.880 --> 01:29:15.199
expert on too many things. And
I think one of the cool things about

1253
01:29:15.319 --> 01:29:19.000
how this podcast has evolved is every
time we bring on somebody new, like

1254
01:29:19.000 --> 01:29:24.560
yourself, we all learn something new
every single guest, and so we're all

1255
01:29:25.000 --> 01:29:27.520
all of us are trying to connect
the dots. By the way, I

1256
01:29:27.560 --> 01:29:31.159
should say, all the podcasts you
named are great, including of course our

1257
01:29:31.199 --> 01:29:36.720
Friend's Role and everybody else there at
the Firnmamental podcast, Alex, My lunch

1258
01:29:36.800 --> 01:29:41.159
break is something I became hooked on
that David Weiss kind of put me onto

1259
01:29:41.199 --> 01:29:45.039
it, and he's kind of I
think, similar to John Levi, would

1260
01:29:45.039 --> 01:29:49.359
you agree, kind of going through
old school history and architecture and the mud

1261
01:29:49.359 --> 01:29:54.760
floods type of Yeah. I love
my lunch break I actually just my last

1262
01:29:54.840 --> 01:29:59.039
day of work before Christmas break,
I dropped that nugget on one of our

1263
01:29:59.079 --> 01:30:01.319
younger workers there. He's like twenty
two good and I said, I've ever

1264
01:30:01.560 --> 01:30:04.079
seeing my lunch break and he's like, oh, no, what is that.

1265
01:30:04.399 --> 01:30:08.720
It's cute, cool little YouTube channel
there. There's shorter videos so you

1266
01:30:08.720 --> 01:30:11.680
don't have to watch like an hour
long thing. It's like ten minutes and

1267
01:30:12.279 --> 01:30:16.760
just goes over questions everything because he
listens to the conspiracy guys and some other

1268
01:30:16.840 --> 01:30:18.960
stuff like that, and so I
was like, oh, check it out,

1269
01:30:18.960 --> 01:30:21.920
you know, and just trying to
get him in the fold. And

1270
01:30:21.920 --> 01:30:29.000
it's it's hard because so many people
when they get raised in a strict religion

1271
01:30:29.079 --> 01:30:32.640
such as like LDS or Catholicism or
something, they get such a bad flavor

1272
01:30:32.720 --> 01:30:38.840
for anything God related and they go
so extreme. That's a great point opposite

1273
01:30:38.880 --> 01:30:42.880
way. So it happens to a
lot of people here in Utah. They

1274
01:30:42.880 --> 01:30:46.960
get related raised in the LDS religion
and they don't study the Bible like I

1275
01:30:47.000 --> 01:30:50.720
said, they study the Book of
Mormon, they kind of skim over some

1276
01:30:50.760 --> 01:30:56.600
of the stuff that helps them promote
their narrative in the New Testament. They

1277
01:30:56.640 --> 01:31:00.319
don't really like to go over the
Old Testament at all, and unless they

1278
01:31:00.640 --> 01:31:05.520
pick and choose a few verses here
and there to promote their angle. And

1279
01:31:05.600 --> 01:31:09.640
so when they so when they get
exposed they go on their mission or they

1280
01:31:09.880 --> 01:31:13.600
go to college and see a whole
different world and different perspectives, they're like,

1281
01:31:13.640 --> 01:31:15.000
oh, this is stupid, this
is a cult. And they go

1282
01:31:15.159 --> 01:31:19.159
so hard the opposite way. Yeah, and it's like, well, that's

1283
01:31:19.199 --> 01:31:25.319
what you've got to look at as
is they are they're teaching their certain made

1284
01:31:25.399 --> 01:31:30.920
up version of it for that control, for that gain of power. And

1285
01:31:31.199 --> 01:31:34.920
that doesn't discredit all of it doesn't
discredit God and Jesus and anything. It

1286
01:31:35.000 --> 01:31:41.079
just to credit discredits what they're doing. But I find that there's a tough

1287
01:31:41.079 --> 01:31:44.960
one with a lot of people,
like even you know, like even Hebrew

1288
01:31:45.000 --> 01:31:47.039
and Jewish people do that too,
Like they'll learn like, oh, well,

1289
01:31:47.039 --> 01:31:50.640
they're studying the they're studying the Talmud. It's all about the Torah.

1290
01:31:50.800 --> 01:31:54.560
It's all bs. And it's like, well, no, they just that's

1291
01:31:54.560 --> 01:31:59.680
why they created the Talmud was to
loophole and bypass the Torah, to not

1292
01:31:59.760 --> 01:32:02.319
have to follow any of the rules
of the actual teaching and the actual you

1293
01:32:02.359 --> 01:32:05.640
know what you should be doing.
You you want your eyes open read that

1294
01:32:06.520 --> 01:32:14.199
right. Holy cow, we're starting
to wind down here. Was there any

1295
01:32:14.239 --> 01:32:16.119
other bullet points that you wanted to
make sure that you brought up during the

1296
01:32:16.159 --> 01:32:26.640
podcast? Just how all the history
is just you know, it's so given

1297
01:32:26.680 --> 01:32:30.279
to us and not not probably what
it really was from all the different wars

1298
01:32:30.279 --> 01:32:34.720
of the world, all this the
national histories of different countries and places,

1299
01:32:34.760 --> 01:32:40.159
and I mean, and like people
are in the flat earth always, Oh,

1300
01:32:40.199 --> 01:32:43.239
there's so much more land out there, and there definitely is. I

1301
01:32:43.239 --> 01:32:46.239
don't know if there's anything outside of
the ice wall which could possibly be I've

1302
01:32:46.279 --> 01:32:51.680
seen some videos showing how the sun
could go to those other places and stuff.

1303
01:32:55.479 --> 01:32:59.640
But like they just found how many
new Japanese islands, like seventy thousand

1304
01:32:59.760 --> 01:33:01.279
or something like that, some crazy
number seven. I don't know what it

1305
01:33:01.319 --> 01:33:04.439
was. It was huge, but
it's like, yeah, how what other

1306
01:33:04.680 --> 01:33:10.239
That's just that there could be places
and just the the treaties of you know,

1307
01:33:10.279 --> 01:33:12.600
well, we're supposedly in the middle
of this war, but they're all

1308
01:33:12.640 --> 01:33:16.960
going down to Antarctica and just you
know, and the North Pole and all

1309
01:33:16.960 --> 01:33:23.600
that, like I've been up above
the Arctic Circle and uh in there in

1310
01:33:23.640 --> 01:33:28.079
Finland where some of my family comes
from, up into Lapland, and and

1311
01:33:28.119 --> 01:33:30.880
how they all have reindeer up there
for pets. Wow, and they're like

1312
01:33:30.920 --> 01:33:34.159
domesticated. They got collars on them
and they're laying on their porch like a

1313
01:33:34.199 --> 01:33:40.560
dog. And it's just knowledge of
coexisting with the animals that we were supposed

1314
01:33:40.560 --> 01:33:44.399
to be doing. We're supposed to
be out here teaching each other, populating,

1315
01:33:45.399 --> 01:33:50.279
naming and and and producing, not
not out here divide and conquer,

1316
01:33:50.399 --> 01:33:57.199
fearing each other and fighting and right
and just to touch on your your your

1317
01:33:57.279 --> 01:34:02.560
Jordan thing, uh, No one
talks about when Jordan's dad died that it

1318
01:34:02.640 --> 01:34:06.319
could have possibly just been a murder. So there was a thing that was

1319
01:34:06.319 --> 01:34:11.600
out about Jordan's gambling. Yep,
how Jordan would never lose yep, double

1320
01:34:11.680 --> 01:34:14.520
nothing, double nothing. We're doing
to you know, tell he would win?

1321
01:34:14.840 --> 01:34:17.399
Well, that only goes so far
with like personal bets, like once

1322
01:34:17.399 --> 01:34:21.000
you owe the house. And so
that was just always a conspiracy of mind,

1323
01:34:21.039 --> 01:34:26.359
like theory of what if they killed
his dad because he wouldn't pay and

1324
01:34:26.399 --> 01:34:28.600
they said, no, you're not
doubling up this time you need to pay

1325
01:34:29.239 --> 01:34:31.840
and send them a message. Okay, we killed your father and that's why

1326
01:34:31.840 --> 01:34:36.520
he stepped away and and then came
back and like just just just a little

1327
01:34:36.560 --> 01:34:41.079
touch on that. Oh I buy
that's a episode. Yeah, his dad

1328
01:34:41.119 --> 01:34:45.039
died right before he retired the first
time. So yeah, yeah, the

1329
01:34:45.279 --> 01:34:48.600
fact that he wanted to play baseball, like no athlete has ever walked away,

1330
01:34:49.039 --> 01:34:53.359
you know, Sansbury Sanders, right, But he didn't quit being an

1331
01:34:53.399 --> 01:34:57.159
athlete, He just went to baseball. I one hundred percent agree that it

1332
01:34:57.359 --> 01:35:00.079
was a deal with the NBA because
he's the great ate at star and that

1333
01:35:00.439 --> 01:35:06.279
the sport in the sports history,
and you could question one of the top

1334
01:35:06.279 --> 01:35:11.560
three American athletes of all time,
certainly the most recognizable. I remember when

1335
01:35:12.439 --> 01:35:15.439
the movie with him and Bugs,
Bunny and all those guys came out in

1336
01:35:15.520 --> 01:35:18.039
like in the early nineties, it
was one of the biggest crossing movies of

1337
01:35:18.119 --> 01:35:21.560
the of the year. He I
mean, he had everything, but again,

1338
01:35:21.600 --> 01:35:25.520
his gambling was off the chart.
And it would not surprise me if

1339
01:35:25.520 --> 01:35:30.119
his father was murdered by you know, some folks from Vegas or maybe some

1340
01:35:30.520 --> 01:35:34.960
mob bosses. You know, maybe
he would those because he he would golf

1341
01:35:35.119 --> 01:35:40.920
for million dollars a hole, and
you don't know who's behind these. You

1342
01:35:40.960 --> 01:35:43.199
know, you get to the eighteenth, you're three million in the hole and

1343
01:35:43.239 --> 01:35:47.560
there's some mobsters standing there, right, or you've been secretly Pete Rose betting

1344
01:35:47.640 --> 01:35:53.119
on your team or championships and yeah, and we all know that referee from

1345
01:35:53.159 --> 01:35:56.399
the NBA came out and how yeple
call change a game and all that,

1346
01:35:56.439 --> 01:36:00.479
and it always hit the money line
and stuff. And another one was,

1347
01:36:00.600 --> 01:36:04.319
uh, people always talk about the
Shazam movies. So in Shazam Too,

1348
01:36:04.439 --> 01:36:09.960
they always talk about when the the
lady, the which lady puts the dome

1349
01:36:10.000 --> 01:36:13.560
over everything, and like how it's
kind of exposing the firmament like in the

1350
01:36:13.600 --> 01:36:15.439
Simpsons with the dome and all that. Yeah, the biggest thing for me

1351
01:36:16.279 --> 01:36:20.239
is the tree. Now, I've
been to Devil's Tower, and I've been

1352
01:36:20.319 --> 01:36:24.840
all over southern Utah and we have
a lot of you know, structures that

1353
01:36:24.880 --> 01:36:28.680
look like cut down trees, and
the Devil's Tower one, I've been there

1354
01:36:28.680 --> 01:36:30.039
and I've seen a lot of videos
on it and it definitely looks like a

1355
01:36:30.039 --> 01:36:33.880
tree to me. Now. In
Shazam Too, that's the whole point is

1356
01:36:33.880 --> 01:36:42.359
they're getting back this magic seed from
their uh god realm because they're theirs was

1357
01:36:42.439 --> 01:36:46.520
killed and they need this magic seed
to replant their tree of life to repopulate

1358
01:36:46.600 --> 01:36:51.760
their world. So the one gets
pissed off instead of replanting it in their

1359
01:36:53.800 --> 01:36:57.439
their dimension or world or wherever realm
where they're from, she goes and plants

1360
01:36:57.439 --> 01:37:00.760
it. I think it's in Philly
Stadium, and this tree pops out,

1361
01:37:00.920 --> 01:37:04.840
and then the roots just started going
all through the city and what pops out

1362
01:37:04.840 --> 01:37:11.840
of the roots are cyclopses, minotaurs, all these demonic haf breeds like from

1363
01:37:11.880 --> 01:37:14.800
the flood and stuff. And it
just when I saw that scene in that

1364
01:37:14.840 --> 01:37:16.319
show, it just clicked and made
me think of all the cut down trees

1365
01:37:16.359 --> 01:37:19.800
and stuff. And I was and
I was just thinking, like, maybe

1366
01:37:19.800 --> 01:37:25.520
that's why in the old times some
of those trees got cut down, because

1367
01:37:25.520 --> 01:37:30.359
they were seating some of the corrupted
flesh and the corrupted beings that weren't supposed

1368
01:37:30.359 --> 01:37:35.319
to be here. Maybe we cut
some of them down or some of the

1369
01:37:35.359 --> 01:37:39.239
good, you know, because I
you know, some of the it's weird

1370
01:37:39.239 --> 01:37:42.479
when you research the history, like
some of the demigods, the lower lower

1371
01:37:42.520 --> 01:37:45.720
g gods. You know how Athena
supposedly stood up for us and stayed to

1372
01:37:45.720 --> 01:37:49.840
fight off the bad ones, and
same with like some of the other Norse

1373
01:37:49.880 --> 01:37:54.079
ones and different ones. There was
always evil and good ones, you know,

1374
01:37:54.119 --> 01:37:57.560
like some that were part of the
Elohem and some that were the you

1375
01:37:57.560 --> 01:38:00.319
know, followers of Lucifer and Saton
that were the third it came to corrupt

1376
01:38:00.399 --> 01:38:04.319
us and ruin everything. Right,
So it's like maybe some of them did

1377
01:38:04.319 --> 01:38:08.079
cut down those evil trees, and
then maybe some of the bad ones cut

1378
01:38:08.119 --> 01:38:12.399
down some of our good trees.
And that's what some of those you know,

1379
01:38:12.439 --> 01:38:16.159
that theory of those big giant rock
structures being cut down trees comes from.

1380
01:38:16.520 --> 01:38:19.600
Said you said that was Shazam two. Yeah, and Shazam two.

1381
01:38:19.800 --> 01:38:23.560
I definitely haven't seen that. When
I have to. That scene is just

1382
01:38:23.640 --> 01:38:26.880
crazy. It's just when she plants
that tree and it grows and then all

1383
01:38:26.920 --> 01:38:30.880
those all those things that got wiped
out by the floods start popping out,

1384
01:38:30.920 --> 01:38:34.199
It's like, holy cow, like
I could that could definitely be one of

1385
01:38:34.239 --> 01:38:36.720
the way, Like you know,
it was just it just resonated, It

1386
01:38:36.840 --> 01:38:40.319
just made a click, and no
one ever talks about that part. They

1387
01:38:40.359 --> 01:38:45.439
just talk about the Dome. Have
you seen the new Obamas movie. No,

1388
01:38:45.560 --> 01:38:47.239
I've seen some. I saw a
trailer and I saw some clips,

1389
01:38:47.720 --> 01:38:51.399
and I don't know. I've ben't
scared to watch it because like my wife,

1390
01:38:51.439 --> 01:38:54.640
hat's watching stuff with me because I
can't shut up. I'm like,

1391
01:38:54.640 --> 01:39:00.600
oh, look at that. I
can't just sit there like so some stuff

1392
01:39:00.600 --> 01:39:03.079
I could sit there and enjoy.
Bird Like I just always say, trying

1393
01:39:03.119 --> 01:39:09.640
to code everything. Yeah, it's
called leave the world behind if you get

1394
01:39:09.680 --> 01:39:12.760
an opportunity, Like we don't pay
for Netflix, but somebody kind of hooked

1395
01:39:12.760 --> 01:39:16.159
me up. And it's so much
like the girl's wearing a NASA shirt,

1396
01:39:16.199 --> 01:39:23.159
the other guy he's wearing an Obey
shirt, the checkered floor. I mean,

1397
01:39:23.399 --> 01:39:26.880
just I've never seen a movie since
I think it's up in the air.

1398
01:39:26.960 --> 01:39:30.800
Maybe that had so much symbology,
whether it's predictive programming, which if

1399
01:39:30.840 --> 01:39:34.479
it is, we're in big trouble, or if it's just more symbols and

1400
01:39:34.560 --> 01:39:39.840
to see who's paying attention but they're
short is a lot. Another question I

1401
01:39:39.880 --> 01:39:43.279
wanted to ask you was, by
the way, when you were talking about

1402
01:39:43.319 --> 01:39:45.000
history, one of the things that
really woke me up is when I found

1403
01:39:45.000 --> 01:39:47.840
out the true history of Lincoln.
That was really an eye opener because of

1404
01:39:47.840 --> 01:39:51.239
course he's champion as one of the
greatest presidents of all time, and then

1405
01:39:51.239 --> 01:39:54.479
you find out he was certainly,
without a doubt, one of the most

1406
01:39:54.479 --> 01:39:58.359
tyrannical. But you've mentioned the Pyramids
during our conversation a few times. What

1407
01:39:58.520 --> 01:40:00.880
do you think of the peer amids
are who built them? Et cetera.

1408
01:40:01.760 --> 01:40:06.760
I think they were probably built by
some of the nepheline or Rafaim, some

1409
01:40:06.800 --> 01:40:11.720
of the ancient demigods. That's why
we can't do it today. Uh,

1410
01:40:11.760 --> 01:40:15.560
And just the sheer size of them
had you know, it almost had to

1411
01:40:15.600 --> 01:40:20.239
have been some giants involved in that. I really liked the YouTube channel Land

1412
01:40:20.279 --> 01:40:27.880
of Cam with his name is Jeff
I can't remember his last name. He

1413
01:40:27.920 --> 01:40:30.079
has a book, Land of Cam, He's got a YouTube channel. He's

1414
01:40:30.119 --> 01:40:39.479
really uh broken down how they're chemical
processing plants and how they're connected because they

1415
01:40:39.640 --> 01:40:42.760
they've never found, you know,
they have actual tombs, they've never found

1416
01:40:42.960 --> 01:40:48.760
sarcophagus and bodies in the pyramids and
so and he talks about how that technology

1417
01:40:48.840 --> 01:40:51.720
was taken around the world and like
that's really what it was when they went

1418
01:40:51.720 --> 01:40:55.680
over to Ireland to kill the snakes. Was you know, there wasn't snakes

1419
01:40:55.680 --> 01:41:00.039
in Ireland. There was certain knowledge
of the transmutation of metals and and chemical

1420
01:41:00.119 --> 01:41:03.159
making and stuff. And so he's
done. I don't know how he gets

1421
01:41:03.159 --> 01:41:08.520
access to it, because like Graham
Hancock supposedly banned from the Pyramids for his

1422
01:41:08.680 --> 01:41:13.279
theories on it. And then this
guy's over there inside filming them and doing

1423
01:41:13.720 --> 01:41:16.920
chemical testing and like all this stuff, and his channel's pretty big. But

1424
01:41:17.520 --> 01:41:21.199
how he breaks it down, how
they're like chemistry sets of how they would

1425
01:41:21.199 --> 01:41:26.039
put this chemical in flood it in
with the water to create the pressure up

1426
01:41:26.039 --> 01:41:30.800
in this chamber, and to go
into the next chamber and create one one

1427
01:41:30.800 --> 01:41:31.920
type like a pneumonia here, and
then they would send it down to the

1428
01:41:31.920 --> 01:41:35.920
next one and they would turn into
a couple other different chemicals or gases and

1429
01:41:36.039 --> 01:41:40.479
send it to the next one.
It's it's pretty interesting. He's got some

1430
01:41:40.520 --> 01:41:43.359
really cool videos on there. I'll
have to send you a couple that I

1431
01:41:43.439 --> 01:41:48.399
usually recommend to people. And then
out here west of Salt Lake, we

1432
01:41:48.600 --> 01:41:55.640
have what looked like many modern day
pyramidal structures, you know, built out

1433
01:41:55.680 --> 01:41:58.920
of you know, modern materials and
stuff, and they're small and they're all

1434
01:41:58.920 --> 01:42:01.880
connected with pipes go on from one
to another. That looks like the process

1435
01:42:01.920 --> 01:42:06.640
he's explaining, just on a smaller
scale. Interesting. So yeah, it's

1436
01:42:08.159 --> 01:42:15.239
I think that's what they were,
was ancient technology they've hidden and disguised as

1437
01:42:15.319 --> 01:42:18.520
tombs and stuff. And I mean
they're everywhere. There are pyramids on every

1438
01:42:18.600 --> 01:42:25.359
continent everything. And I'm really into
doctor Narco a Longo's that Florida could be

1439
01:42:25.920 --> 01:42:30.239
the Garden of Eden, for like
the twenty seven trees that grow there out

1440
01:42:30.239 --> 01:42:32.880
of the twenty eight of the Bible, and the river systems, and it's

1441
01:42:32.920 --> 01:42:40.079
an actual fertile crescent, and why
not keep them fighting over a deserted wasteland

1442
01:42:40.119 --> 01:42:45.000
desert over there and keeping them away
from the true you know, fertile area.

1443
01:42:45.199 --> 01:42:47.199
I mean, is a possibility.
I like entertaining that. Plus,

1444
01:42:47.520 --> 01:42:51.319
the Egyptians say they came to Egypt
by boat because their land was destroyed and

1445
01:42:51.359 --> 01:42:56.199
flooded out. And you have all
the Egypt stuff and the Grand Canyon that's

1446
01:42:56.279 --> 01:43:00.840
hidden and stuff, right, Yeah, that's something I haven't dove into enough.

1447
01:43:00.680 --> 01:43:02.720
Yeah, and you can't, you
know, there's so many sections of

1448
01:43:02.720 --> 01:43:06.520
it. You can't even go into
Buddy're like we should just get some four

1449
01:43:06.520 --> 01:43:10.640
wheelers one day and going like,
yeah, we'll get shot, just like

1450
01:43:10.880 --> 01:43:14.199
trying to invade their area fifty one. They're letting you in there. And

1451
01:43:14.279 --> 01:43:19.359
just you know, the whole slavery
history, you got so much of dark

1452
01:43:19.399 --> 01:43:25.399
skinned people all throughout Mexico and stuff, and tribes of Indians here that were

1453
01:43:25.720 --> 01:43:28.479
black and brown. You know,
I don't think that they were all brought

1454
01:43:28.560 --> 01:43:31.239
here by boat. I think they're
taking them back and forth from Africa to

1455
01:43:31.239 --> 01:43:35.520
Hear, from here over to Europe, from all over everyone's been slaved.

1456
01:43:35.560 --> 01:43:43.000
And and that's that's one thing that
bugs me about like the leadership of Islam.

1457
01:43:43.399 --> 01:43:47.600
They attract so many non white people
when the leaders of it technically to

1458
01:43:47.640 --> 01:43:53.279
their eyes are white. They're all
Arab non you know, And and they

1459
01:43:53.319 --> 01:43:57.199
still do slavery today. But yet
the Christians are the evil white slaveries of

1460
01:43:57.239 --> 01:44:00.479
the past. Like that's just a
just one of that, know that more

1461
01:44:00.520 --> 01:44:03.479
that distorted history to create the division
and to hide the truth. Yeah,

1462
01:44:03.680 --> 01:44:06.600
and it's really interesting, and I've
said this before that you know there's people

1463
01:44:06.640 --> 01:44:10.640
who will still scream about what happened
two years ago. Let's just say it

1464
01:44:10.640 --> 01:44:15.640
did happen that way, that there's
still fifteen to twenty million slaves today,

1465
01:44:15.720 --> 01:44:17.479
and like people will go out and
they'll spend two hundred dollars on a pair

1466
01:44:17.479 --> 01:44:23.680
of nikes that were literally made by
slave labor, right, and your phones,

1467
01:44:23.760 --> 01:44:28.199
your iPhone's made in a labor camp, and is just it's just another

1468
01:44:28.239 --> 01:44:30.479
that divide and conquered to keep us
fighting each other instead of fighting the real

1469
01:44:30.600 --> 01:44:35.680
enemy, exactly the spot on.
That's that's what it's all about. Keep

1470
01:44:35.760 --> 01:44:40.720
us fighting amongst each other. And
lastly, I'm glad you brought up chemptrails

1471
01:44:41.760 --> 01:44:46.159
my episode Tuesday night on the Fact
Hunters called Death from Above. Before Christmas,

1472
01:44:46.840 --> 01:44:50.039
I had mentioned that we were getting
sprayed here like I've never seen before.

1473
01:44:50.279 --> 01:44:56.439
And over the last week, everybody
I know has been sick, and

1474
01:44:56.479 --> 01:44:59.399
that is something that really needs to
be addressed and brought up more as well.

1475
01:44:59.439 --> 01:45:03.840
And I'm glad to see some of
the fringe podcasts and social media folks

1476
01:45:04.079 --> 01:45:08.640
are starting to talk about it because
it's a big issue. Oh yeah,

1477
01:45:08.760 --> 01:45:11.439
and and people don't believe, like
I said, my friend turned me onto

1478
01:45:11.479 --> 01:45:15.199
him like twenty years ago and I've
been watching it my whole life. They

1479
01:45:15.239 --> 01:45:18.560
spray here like crazy. It is. It is insane. And you watch

1480
01:45:18.640 --> 01:45:23.119
the pass that go. It's right
over the most populated areas. And like

1481
01:45:23.119 --> 01:45:26.560
you said, they all everyone's getting
sick. And now you know there's a

1482
01:45:26.600 --> 01:45:31.479
five G tower every hundred yards yep, I mean everywhere. It's just I

1483
01:45:31.560 --> 01:45:34.760
don't know if they correlate or not. But like I said, radiation poisoning

1484
01:45:34.800 --> 01:45:39.439
sickness is the same symptoms as the
flu. I think it goes hand in

1485
01:45:39.479 --> 01:45:42.319
hand. You know, it is
the air, the water, the food.

1486
01:45:42.760 --> 01:45:47.720
You know, there's a cool app. It was a link from when

1487
01:45:47.720 --> 01:45:51.399
you were buying the water filter on
on from Ready Hour, like on my

1488
01:45:51.479 --> 01:45:57.560
Patriots Supply they have that big water
like Alexa pure Pro or whatever water filter.

1489
01:45:59.319 --> 01:46:01.600
There was a link it could go
to and you could type your city

1490
01:46:01.640 --> 01:46:04.279
in and it would show you kind
of the levels of the stuff in your

1491
01:46:04.279 --> 01:46:10.680
water. And it was really cool. So I checked out like my water

1492
01:46:10.880 --> 01:46:14.479
area, like and you know here
in Utah and the little suburb city I'm

1493
01:46:14.680 --> 01:46:17.960
outside of Salt Lake, and it
gave you different levels for different places.

1494
01:46:18.000 --> 01:46:21.640
It was really neat to see,
you know, and that could be true,

1495
01:46:21.640 --> 01:46:24.119
and that could be false. You
know, it's like you know,

1496
01:46:24.520 --> 01:46:29.119
you know, like and they trace. That's another thing here is the genealogy

1497
01:46:30.039 --> 01:46:33.359
Hibler had mentioned. No, most
people's past only goes to like the Civil

1498
01:46:33.359 --> 01:46:36.600
War. Well, a lot of
people can trace their stuff back farther than

1499
01:46:36.680 --> 01:46:40.880
that. Yeah. And then here
in Utah, I have a huge genealogy

1500
01:46:40.880 --> 01:46:45.000
library and it's free. And it's
like, but is it true? Because

1501
01:46:45.000 --> 01:46:47.199
they're trying to prove they're they're one
of the lost tribes of Israel. That's

1502
01:46:47.399 --> 01:46:50.279
you know, that's why they are
so into it. They want to baptize

1503
01:46:50.279 --> 01:46:56.840
everyone into their religion and prove that
they true. And and and I think

1504
01:46:56.880 --> 01:47:00.479
that those tablets were just stolen out
of a mound. I think that you

1505
01:47:00.520 --> 01:47:02.920
know, they found they dug up
some mount in Ohio one of the giant

1506
01:47:03.039 --> 01:47:09.239
mounds are burial pyramids, and and
found a found them tablets and and then

1507
01:47:09.319 --> 01:47:12.640
created you know what they have today. After that, I mean they've been

1508
01:47:13.479 --> 01:47:16.880
They've had a member in every sector
of the government for ever, for you

1509
01:47:16.880 --> 01:47:20.520
know, over twenty years. If
you know, huge FBI thing out here,

1510
01:47:20.560 --> 01:47:24.119
you got huge military bases, like
you said, they just built that

1511
01:47:24.199 --> 01:47:28.880
gigantic NSA Center out here. Yep, Like you know, they're they they

1512
01:47:28.920 --> 01:47:30.520
had a guy running for president,
They've paid their dues, they're in.

1513
01:47:30.800 --> 01:47:33.359
You know. It's I tell my
brother that, I'm all, that's why

1514
01:47:34.039 --> 01:47:36.279
they have this. It's so called
vault in the mountain. I'm all,

1515
01:47:36.439 --> 01:47:40.279
that's not a vault. That's an
underground city in the mountain that they're going

1516
01:47:40.319 --> 01:47:42.199
to go. The top dogs are
going to hide in that, right,

1517
01:47:42.239 --> 01:47:45.840
and then all the temples are giant
bunker fortresses for the next level, and

1518
01:47:45.880 --> 01:47:49.439
then the other churches are all just
for the next lower level, peasants and

1519
01:47:49.479 --> 01:47:53.560
people they want to save to keep
as their workers and slaves. And and

1520
01:47:53.600 --> 01:47:55.640
he was like, well, I
never thought about it like that. And

1521
01:47:56.319 --> 01:47:58.319
it's just, you know, it's
just weird. It's just weird. It's

1522
01:47:58.319 --> 01:48:00.800
always been a beautiful, super beauty
place. We got you can snow ski

1523
01:48:00.840 --> 01:48:04.359
and water ski in the same day, and it's just but just the who

1524
01:48:04.359 --> 01:48:08.720
it's controlled and run by, it's
super weird, indeed. And it's the

1525
01:48:08.760 --> 01:48:11.600
same with Colorado. You know,
you look at the all the symbolism at

1526
01:48:11.640 --> 01:48:15.000
the airport, and then of course
that the mountains down there in Colorado Springs.

1527
01:48:15.399 --> 01:48:18.600
I can't remember the name of the
place. Norad is in you know,

1528
01:48:18.680 --> 01:48:25.079
in the in the mountains there.
So the Getty the Getty family is

1529
01:48:25.119 --> 01:48:28.840
one of the richest families in the
world. It's been known for years.

1530
01:48:28.880 --> 01:48:31.600
The second guest I ever had on
the fact dunner Man. I can't think.

1531
01:48:31.680 --> 01:48:35.359
Stephen D. Kelly. That's his
name, Stephen D. Kelly.

1532
01:48:35.960 --> 01:48:40.960
He does the show every week and
it's just on the underground compound below the

1533
01:48:41.000 --> 01:48:45.000
Getty Museum in California and every all
the evil that goes on there. But

1534
01:48:45.039 --> 01:48:48.520
I wanted to run past you.
Have you heard of this before? The

1535
01:48:48.560 --> 01:48:54.720
reason I brought up the the camtrails
in the spring is that the two compounds

1536
01:48:54.760 --> 01:49:00.640
that were tested. There was a
big TV thirteen years ago, twenty ten,

1537
01:49:00.680 --> 01:49:03.079
a local news story. There was
a guy in the small town that

1538
01:49:03.159 --> 01:49:08.479
was screaming chemtrails. So the day
after a day that it appeared to be

1539
01:49:08.520 --> 01:49:12.319
spreading, they took this piece of
whatever they had left out and they tested

1540
01:49:12.359 --> 01:49:17.399
it. And the two chemicals that
they found was barium and aluminum. Well,

1541
01:49:17.439 --> 01:49:23.760
barium, what is the symbol b
A? What is aluminum al So

1542
01:49:23.920 --> 01:49:27.560
you have your ball on top of
that the atomic number for barium is fifty

1543
01:49:27.560 --> 01:49:31.560
six. Fifty six is the number
of the Jesuits. How many signatories were

1544
01:49:31.600 --> 01:49:36.960
there on the Constitution? Fifty six, and then aluminum is thirteen. You

1545
01:49:38.000 --> 01:49:43.079
look at all the numerology between aluminum
and barium. The melting point is six

1546
01:49:43.159 --> 01:49:47.600
hundred and sixty six point three degrees
celsius for aluminum. That there's a lot

1547
01:49:47.600 --> 01:49:54.439
of numerology between these two things.
And I wonder if that if there's anything

1548
01:49:54.439 --> 01:49:58.239
to that. Have you ever heard
that, I've heard you talk about it.

1549
01:49:58.359 --> 01:50:04.319
I've heard that I work with aluminum. We cut aluminum motorcycle sprockets and

1550
01:50:04.600 --> 01:50:10.319
uh we get a high end,
real high grade space age aluminum quality,

1551
01:50:10.359 --> 01:50:15.319
you know. And NASA yeah,
and uh, but yeah, I think

1552
01:50:15.359 --> 01:50:17.720
it does. You know, they
love their numbers. And I think it

1553
01:50:17.800 --> 01:50:20.439
has to do with the rituals.
I think there is you know, the

1554
01:50:20.520 --> 01:50:26.880
vibrations and all that, and I
think that when they spray it, it

1555
01:50:27.000 --> 01:50:30.880
coordinates, and that the different things
they put in in these all these medications,

1556
01:50:30.920 --> 01:50:35.239
all these injections. You know,
that's why they're pushing the bug agenda.

1557
01:50:35.279 --> 01:50:39.760
That's why the the shellfish thing and
the bugs is in the in the

1558
01:50:39.760 --> 01:50:44.840
Bible. Because shellfish are just water
bugs or just sea bugs. And I

1559
01:50:44.880 --> 01:50:48.640
heard the other day how when you
eat that and then if you're injected out

1560
01:50:48.600 --> 01:50:56.279
it reacts together it like it helps, it helps it do what it's supposed

1561
01:50:56.319 --> 01:51:01.000
to do. If you're inject if
you're eating the shellfish or the bugs,

1562
01:51:01.119 --> 01:51:06.279
that whatever is injected with you that
has that the compound has a reaction and

1563
01:51:06.319 --> 01:51:12.039
it makes it, you know,
congeal or you know, form up what

1564
01:51:12.119 --> 01:51:17.560
it's intended to do faster, at
a higher rate. Agreed, And there's

1565
01:51:17.560 --> 01:51:23.720
something going on because you know,
this year, I've just seen so many

1566
01:51:23.760 --> 01:51:29.000
sick people that are never sick,
and I just seen the uptick of spraying,

1567
01:51:29.359 --> 01:51:33.159
and who knows what's going on with
the five G towers. And you

1568
01:51:33.199 --> 01:51:38.680
know, there's some people who believe
they're putting things in our water. I'm

1569
01:51:38.680 --> 01:51:41.520
on a well, so it does
make sense if they're spraying, because obviously

1570
01:51:41.600 --> 01:51:45.239
those chemicals can get into our well
through the ground to whereas people think they're

1571
01:51:45.239 --> 01:51:49.520
putting it into the water systems.
I don't know about that, but whatever

1572
01:51:49.600 --> 01:51:51.359
the evil is, it needs to
be stuck. By the way, I

1573
01:51:51.359 --> 01:51:55.079
think I said the Constitution, it
was the Declaration of Independence, that had

1574
01:51:55.119 --> 01:52:00.119
fifty six signatures on it. So
yeah, you don't think they have to

1575
01:52:00.159 --> 01:52:03.119
put it in the water system because
they spray and it naturally exactly exactly.

1576
01:52:03.800 --> 01:52:08.640
And that's why you know Senor Gates
is buying up all that land. It

1577
01:52:08.640 --> 01:52:11.239
ain't for the farms, it's for
the water. He wants to control the

1578
01:52:11.279 --> 01:52:15.000
aquifer. He wants to we have
that huge water aquifer in the middle of

1579
01:52:15.039 --> 01:52:20.199
the country that he wants to own
that and dictate. And yeah, they've

1580
01:52:20.239 --> 01:52:23.960
been playing a long game for a
long time when you look at how his

1581
01:52:24.039 --> 01:52:28.880
grandpa was involved with the Spanish flu, and it's all they just keep doing

1582
01:52:28.920 --> 01:52:32.640
it every so many years once we
forget or don't learn about it, and

1583
01:52:32.680 --> 01:52:36.600
it's just it's sad. It's I
never get sick. I got really sick

1584
01:52:38.199 --> 01:52:45.600
November of twenty nineteen and then didn't
get sick again until probably twenty one,

1585
01:52:45.720 --> 01:52:47.880
twenty two. But yeah, I
would never I'd maybe get a flu for

1586
01:52:48.439 --> 01:52:51.920
a few days once a year,
but you know, I think your natural

1587
01:52:51.960 --> 01:52:57.079
cycle of your body purging. Sure, Yeah, I've been getting little little

1588
01:52:57.079 --> 01:53:00.000
respiratory things here and there, and
I never got any jab. I never

1589
01:53:00.039 --> 01:53:04.439
even did one test. I never
even did any of that. I just

1590
01:53:04.479 --> 01:53:08.600
didn't. We just ejected from that
game and just did not play it.

1591
01:53:08.640 --> 01:53:13.239
And I was lucky that my job
I didn't have to. And then I

1592
01:53:13.239 --> 01:53:16.399
switched jobs in the middle of it
to where I didn't have to, and

1593
01:53:16.479 --> 01:53:20.000
so yeah, it's just but yeah, I've definitely noticed, and I definitely

1594
01:53:20.079 --> 01:53:26.479
noticed all the people I know that
did get the injections that they are having

1595
01:53:26.600 --> 01:53:31.720
major stuff going on, and it's
it's heartbreaking. It's just so I've lived

1596
01:53:31.720 --> 01:53:36.239
such a life of being frustrated about
so many things for so long that I'm

1597
01:53:36.279 --> 01:53:42.439
trying to turn it all from frustration
and judgment to to forgiveness and and just

1598
01:53:42.600 --> 01:53:46.479
trying to just spread love and and
not you know, be so upset about

1599
01:53:46.479 --> 01:53:50.039
it and forgive them for they know
not what they do. It's all just

1600
01:53:50.079 --> 01:53:55.680
we've all just been misled down the
wrong way, you know, from everything

1601
01:53:55.840 --> 01:54:00.439
from science to history to to u
creation, right, you know, the

1602
01:54:00.720 --> 01:54:04.640
attrition and health and oh man,
all of it. Yeah. I did

1603
01:54:04.680 --> 01:54:08.720
a whole week on the fact underback
in twenty maybe it was last year,

1604
01:54:08.840 --> 01:54:11.800
last summer, but just on all
these holistic doctors who were chased out of

1605
01:54:11.840 --> 01:54:15.600
the country and had their lives ruined, and people who legitimately like cured people

1606
01:54:15.680 --> 01:54:20.920
from their cancer and things like that
through natural resources, which of course threatened

1607
01:54:21.119 --> 01:54:27.119
big pharmaceutical just like Stanley Meyer,
the guy who created the hydra engine.

1608
01:54:27.239 --> 01:54:30.840
They killed him because why it threatened
the oil industry. If you get in

1609
01:54:30.880 --> 01:54:39.600
the way of the you know,
monopoly, Yeah, the monopoly whoever you

1610
01:54:39.640 --> 01:54:42.159
want to call them, right the
control And that's one last question I wanted

1611
01:54:42.199 --> 01:54:44.880
to ask you. But anyway to
close that out, if you get in

1612
01:54:44.920 --> 01:54:46.439
their way, you're going to get
run over. But I want to close

1613
01:54:46.479 --> 01:54:49.760
with this question. The people at
the top of the food chain, who

1614
01:54:49.800 --> 01:54:54.319
I believe there are people much higher
than the roth Childs and the rock of

1615
01:54:54.399 --> 01:55:00.279
Fellers. I think they're order takers. But do you think these people have

1616
01:55:00.399 --> 01:55:09.680
the ability to directly connect and speak
with Satan? Because obviously the evil that

1617
01:55:09.840 --> 01:55:15.840
is controlling this earth is right,
it's biblical. So so have you ever

1618
01:55:15.880 --> 01:55:20.279
sat back and thought about how those
people who are at the top of the

1619
01:55:20.279 --> 01:55:24.760
food chain that you know, are
they able to connect with Satan and kind

1620
01:55:24.760 --> 01:55:30.199
of take their orders or how do
you think all of this works. I

1621
01:55:30.279 --> 01:55:34.039
learned about a new family the other
day the Wahlburbs in Sweden, they do

1622
01:55:34.119 --> 01:55:39.399
and talk and uh, I think
that, you know, you know,

1623
01:55:39.439 --> 01:55:42.640
they all believe like the King of
England believes he comes from Vladim Paler,

1624
01:55:42.680 --> 01:55:47.039
who comes from Hercules, who was
a creative demon right or Hercules created by

1625
01:55:47.079 --> 01:55:54.359
Zeus yep. Uh So I think
that they do believe that. And whether

1626
01:55:54.439 --> 01:55:58.359
they're talking to the Big Dog or
just some of his minions, you know

1627
01:55:58.399 --> 01:56:00.359
what I mean, I think because
that's usually how it is, is,

1628
01:56:00.399 --> 01:56:03.600
oh, do this for us,
and it's all about promises. If you

1629
01:56:03.680 --> 01:56:05.960
do this for us, then we'll
connect you to the big Guy. You've

1630
01:56:05.960 --> 01:56:11.119
got to prove yourself first. It's
always just like any of the secret societies

1631
01:56:11.159 --> 01:56:14.239
and stuff. It's you got to
prove your worth and then you then you

1632
01:56:14.279 --> 01:56:16.720
get up a level. Then you
get closer and closer. Whether they're ever

1633
01:56:16.760 --> 01:56:20.840
going to get directly to the Big
Guy or not, I don't know,

1634
01:56:21.319 --> 01:56:24.479
but I think they they do believe
that. I think. I mean,

1635
01:56:24.560 --> 01:56:27.439
you look at that ritual they did
in front of cerin the other day.

1636
01:56:27.640 --> 01:56:30.600
Yeah, it's crazy, doesn't matter
what you believe, that's what they believe.

1637
01:56:30.720 --> 01:56:34.720
And it's it's like, you know, and if they believe it.

1638
01:56:34.800 --> 01:56:39.000
There's a reason, you know,
they're the ones suit who seems to be

1639
01:56:39.039 --> 01:56:43.439
pulling the strings. And and I'm
on with I hate being like blackpil other

1640
01:56:43.560 --> 01:56:46.079
negative, but that's why I love
Hibbler's attitudes, Like if they were going

1641
01:56:46.159 --> 01:56:48.720
to do all this, they would, there's obviously people fighting them and shutting

1642
01:56:48.760 --> 01:56:53.199
them down, and I just try
to walk that positive path and think that

1643
01:56:54.000 --> 01:56:57.119
we can do it. I think
there's so many more and more people coming

1644
01:56:57.159 --> 01:57:01.880
around all the time, and I
think that they are scared and they're on

1645
01:57:02.000 --> 01:57:06.359
their last they're really trying to get
it going because they they know that once

1646
01:57:06.600 --> 01:57:10.800
it's that I can't remember the term, is that once enough of us come

1647
01:57:10.840 --> 01:57:15.439
around that you know, once you
know, when after so many people saw

1648
01:57:15.479 --> 01:57:18.079
the guy run the six minute mile, then everyone was you know, it's

1649
01:57:18.119 --> 01:57:21.039
like that thing. Once enough people
come around to the idea and to the

1650
01:57:21.079 --> 01:57:26.439
power that then you know. And
I think that's what like the incubator babies

1651
01:57:26.479 --> 01:57:29.359
were they That was probably another reset
where they got rid of a bunch of

1652
01:57:29.359 --> 01:57:32.720
people and and redid it all.
And and that's why they burned down all

1653
01:57:32.720 --> 01:57:36.199
the world spares. Was they erase
all that to build these they can't.

1654
01:57:36.239 --> 01:57:39.319
They can't kill the world, Like
you said, only God can do that,

1655
01:57:39.439 --> 01:57:41.880
right, But they can. They
can nuke an area like New York

1656
01:57:41.920 --> 01:57:46.079
or Sure or San Francisco. And
then and when you're when you've been raised

1657
01:57:46.079 --> 01:57:49.079
in a place like that, like
La or New York, with that many

1658
01:57:49.079 --> 01:57:53.720
people around you, it's easy to
think that it's overpopulated. It's easy to

1659
01:57:53.800 --> 01:57:57.239
think that, you know what I
mean, it's doom and gloom. When

1660
01:57:57.279 --> 01:58:01.399
you've been lucky like me to be
raising as much smaller area and been on

1661
01:58:01.479 --> 01:58:06.560
so many planes and been all over
the world and you see nothing but emptiness,

1662
01:58:08.039 --> 01:58:13.039
you know, I mean, just
open land for miles. It's like,

1663
01:58:13.399 --> 01:58:15.800
you know, there's so much plenty
for everybody. You know, there's

1664
01:58:16.359 --> 01:58:20.520
but they that's just their game to
make get everyone trapped in these cities and

1665
01:58:20.520 --> 01:58:24.760
and make them think that it's you
know, do them and gloom. Yeah.

1666
01:58:24.960 --> 01:58:27.600
And when people when you're trying to
wake people up and they say,

1667
01:58:28.000 --> 01:58:30.079
oh, the government would never do
that, they tried to just say they're

1668
01:58:30.119 --> 01:58:34.399
just incompetent. I always tell people
to google operations Sea Spray, where they

1669
01:58:34.479 --> 01:58:41.840
legitimately sprayed biological agents in the city
of San Francisco and the story that's there,

1670
01:58:41.920 --> 01:58:45.600
and that was seventy years ago.
Imagine what they're doing today, all

1671
01:58:45.640 --> 01:58:48.000
those operations. You can look them
up that you know, we're just cogs

1672
01:58:48.000 --> 01:58:51.439
and ponds and in what they think
is their game. Yep, they don't

1673
01:58:51.479 --> 01:58:57.039
care. They they You look how
they black melons scow over their own family

1674
01:58:57.079 --> 01:59:00.439
and relatives and friends. They like
some stranger they don't know, they don't

1675
01:59:00.479 --> 01:59:04.960
care. You're nothing to them.
Yeah, that's part of that division and

1676
01:59:05.039 --> 01:59:12.880
that that unholy, unrighteous, that
ungodly view that you know, nobody matters

1677
01:59:12.880 --> 01:59:16.079
when we all matter. It's not
everything matters. We all matter, We're

1678
01:59:16.079 --> 01:59:20.640
all here for a reason. That's
right, Well done, man, really

1679
01:59:20.680 --> 01:59:25.359
really really really great podcast. And
uh, I do want to give you

1680
01:59:25.359 --> 01:59:30.920
the final word, uh, to
address the listeners. I just love everyone

1681
01:59:30.960 --> 01:59:35.560
to keep questioning everything and keep an
open mind and just don't you know,

1682
01:59:36.079 --> 01:59:41.279
take in as much information as you
can and use it for positive and do

1683
01:59:41.399 --> 01:59:45.800
the best you can. And and
you've got to put some faith and trust

1684
01:59:45.840 --> 01:59:47.439
in some people. But you've got
to have your faith and trust in God

1685
01:59:47.560 --> 01:59:55.039
like man will deceive you. And
you know God is real. This was

1686
01:59:55.119 --> 01:59:58.800
created. You know everyone has their
purpose. Just do good. And you

1687
01:59:58.840 --> 02:00:00.640
know we could close it out with
a little prayer if you wanted to,

1688
02:00:01.079 --> 02:00:05.600
please do I'd appreciate that. All
right, we pray to the Most High

1689
02:00:05.640 --> 02:00:13.439
God, thank you for this podcast, and thank you for everyone in the

1690
02:00:13.479 --> 02:00:16.159
whole world. And we hope that
you can give everyone the strength of finding

1691
02:00:16.199 --> 02:00:21.000
themselves to keep fighting the good fight
and not let the wicked ones of this

1692
02:00:21.039 --> 02:00:26.359
world trick us and to do us
harm. And we hope that you could

1693
02:00:26.359 --> 02:00:28.960
give the wicked ones of this world
to strength to change their heart and to

1694
02:00:29.039 --> 02:00:33.039
change their path. And we just
want to bless all those that need food,

1695
02:00:33.079 --> 02:00:36.960
to give them food and shelter,
to give them shelter, and just

1696
02:00:38.039 --> 02:00:43.039
bless the world to not go down
the way that some of these evil ones

1697
02:00:43.079 --> 02:00:46.119
wanted to go down. And we
say this in your name, Yeshua Jesus,

1698
02:00:46.640 --> 02:00:50.359
Amen Amen. Thank you so much, brother. I appreciate that.

1699
02:00:50.399 --> 02:00:54.840
And if you'd like to reach out
to Eric, his email address will be

1700
02:00:54.960 --> 02:00:59.359
in the show notes. It's mohammash
underscore one at yahoo dot com. Again,

1701
02:00:59.399 --> 02:01:00.479
it'll be in the show notes.
Don't feel like you have to write

1702
02:01:00.479 --> 02:01:04.520
it down and I'll have it.
Looks like about twenty two links in the

1703
02:01:04.520 --> 02:01:10.840
show notes everything from my lunch break
to the land of Kem and even I

1704
02:01:10.840 --> 02:01:15.199
did find out that zacharias stitching one
of his book The Twelfth Planet, that

1705
02:01:15.239 --> 02:01:17.960
I found on the internet archive while
we were chatting. So take the time

1706
02:01:18.000 --> 02:01:24.199
out and do some research, and
again, share the podcast with your friends

1707
02:01:24.239 --> 02:01:28.279
and your family, and let's spread
the truth. And God bless everyone.

1708
02:01:28.439 --> 02:01:31.960
As this podcast is released, it's
officially twenty twenty four. It should make

1709
02:01:32.079 --> 02:01:35.199
for an interesting year. Again,
Eric, thank you so much for your

1710
02:01:35.199 --> 02:01:40.239
time. For Eric, I'm George. God bless everyone. Keep your head

1711
02:01:40.239 --> 02:01:43.800
on a swivel. And until we
meet again, my friends, we will

1712
02:01:44.119 --> 02:01:50.399
see it. I know it's been
a struggle. I don't know. You've

1713
02:01:50.479 --> 02:02:03.199
had tell down a way. Yeah, I know, you feel more,

1714
02:02:05.680 --> 02:02:15.439
you smile, ain't the same I
saw well go from you feel like you've

1715
02:02:15.520 --> 02:02:25.279
lost your way. Don't give up, No, don't give in nevers home,

1716
02:02:25.439 --> 02:02:30.680
don't let call the primise. He
ain't done yet. He's got up,

1717
02:02:30.720 --> 02:02:34.600
glad, Why it's a right time? Got up? Let me come?

1718
02:02:39.640 --> 02:02:50.680
Why wait? Got up? Y
came? I can see the straight

1719
02:02:50.800 --> 02:03:00.039
beside you. Child's are putting up
the fid Oh you're stronger. Man ce

1720
02:03:01.279 --> 02:03:08.600
guy, you're gone. Be all
right, you're accepting a dead found you

1721
02:03:10.279 --> 02:03:17.800
beautiful? You're shoving ride Yeah,
you're live and breathe, move you can

1722
02:03:18.000 --> 02:03:27.000
hold your head of hide. Don't
give up, No, don't give in,

1723
02:03:28.239 --> 02:03:32.880
never los home? Don't they gone
on the Primise? It ain't Donion's

1724
02:03:33.039 --> 02:03:40.920
got a plan? Wants some way? Tell the God of Merica don't give

1725
02:03:41.039 --> 02:03:45.079
up. No, don't give in, never live home, don't let go

1726
02:03:45.239 --> 02:03:51.720
on the Primis. It ain't confess
worth then, man, Wat's a way

1727
02:03:51.920 --> 02:04:06.720
down the God v Why the play
down the God? Oh yes, what

1728
02:04:08.199 --> 02:04:29.199
a play down the God? Oh
yeah you got TV. Don't give up,

1729
02:04:29.520 --> 02:04:34.680
no, don't give in ever?
So do they go of the Primis?

1730
02:04:34.960 --> 02:04:43.239
I mean and don yes, got
up playing? What kind of ivy

1731
02:04:43.399 --> 02:04:49.039
colts? Don't give no dog giving? Never it's home? Do they go

1732
02:04:49.560 --> 02:04:58.039
the Primes? It ain't done?
Love's worth living? Watch and the God

1733
02:04:58.319 --> 02:05:21.760
of every car all the God of
needs? Why it's don't God of you're

1734
02:05:21.840 --> 02:05:29.760
listening to the Fact Hunter Radio Network. Just the facts, Mammy m