1 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:46,840 Illuminate you come he God, don't get so matself. Good morning everybody. 2 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:50,759 We are live, truly, Yes, we are live. Wow, this 3 00:00:50,799 --> 00:00:55,960 does sound different. Welcome. It is that time. Matt Connorton unleashed. 4 00:00:56,000 --> 00:01:00,640 We are back live from the studios, the brand new studios of w M 5 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:07,599 n H ninety five point three FM, Inglorious Manchester, New Hampshire. And 6 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:12,120 we will talk about that in a moment. But I am not alone this 7 00:01:12,239 --> 00:01:27,400 morning. Jenny is here of course, of course. Good morning, Darling, 8 00:01:27,519 --> 00:01:32,120 Good morning. This is gorgeous. What's up? I love it? 9 00:01:32,599 --> 00:01:36,040 Yeah, yeah, So we're in the We are in the brand new studio 10 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:38,959 here of w M and H at our new location in Canal Street, and 11 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:45,480 everything is new and clean and really nice. So so we've been gone for 12 00:01:45,519 --> 00:01:48,040 a little while. This show has been gone for for a bit, you 13 00:01:48,079 --> 00:01:51,879 know. We had the holidays and then of course we had the big move 14 00:01:52,359 --> 00:01:57,840 to the new location and uh, somewhere in there, I had COVID after 15 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:02,480 it for nearly three years that I that I know of. I mean, 16 00:02:02,519 --> 00:02:06,719 I'm vaccinated, so I probably did have it along the way and didn't know 17 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:08,439 it, but it finally got me. It put me down for a few 18 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:13,000 days. But yeah, so you know, I'm fine. Now obviously that 19 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:15,039 was that was during the holidays, that was that's how I spent my New 20 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:22,919 Years unconscious. But uh, but it is true, it is true. 21 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:25,479 But yeah, so we are in the new location on Canal Street and uh 22 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:30,240 yeah, really nice. But if the show seems a little if I seem 23 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:32,759 uncertain at any point, I'll just throw that disclaimer out there, it's because 24 00:02:32,759 --> 00:02:37,960 we're in new environs. But really happy to be back. Of course, 25 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:43,759 while I was here last night for Retro Spectrum Radio with poly C we were 26 00:02:43,759 --> 00:02:47,280 broadcasting and that went really well. And if you didn't, uh, if 27 00:02:47,319 --> 00:02:50,520 you didn't hear the show, of course, you can get it in the 28 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:54,280 archive at w m n hradio dot org. You can go back and listen 29 00:02:54,319 --> 00:02:58,520 to it. But uh so this is uh, this is great. It 30 00:02:58,759 --> 00:03:00,840 sounds everything sounds a little bit different of course in the new studio, and 31 00:03:00,879 --> 00:03:06,080 we have some new equipment and sounds really good in the headphones though. It 32 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:10,759 definitely it definitely does. Now did you request the sound panels to be read? 33 00:03:10,879 --> 00:03:15,360 I can't, no, but notice they're at your favorite. Yeah, 34 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:17,639 we have the panels in the studio, some of them are red, some 35 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:22,120 of them are gray. Red is my favorite color, so I do like 36 00:03:22,159 --> 00:03:23,719 it. These are my high school colors. I do like the red. 37 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:30,240 Yeah, no, it looks. It looks really good in here. Everything's 38 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:35,759 everything's really nice. So we are of course broadcasting from wmn H ninety five 39 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:39,960 point three on your FM dial if you are local in Manchester. We changed 40 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:45,960 physical locations, but the frequency is the same ninety five point three. And 41 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:50,639 of course you can stream it. You can go to WMNH Radio dot org 42 00:03:50,719 --> 00:03:53,639 and click listen live. And of course you can go to my website, 43 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:57,039 Matt Connorton dot com for all your live streaming options. That's another way to 44 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:00,240 get there. We are not on Facebook this morning. I thought we were 45 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:05,719 going to be so damned this thing. So last night for Retrospect Radio, 46 00:04:05,759 --> 00:04:10,400 we weren't able to be on Facebook. We tried, but Facebook was being 47 00:04:10,439 --> 00:04:14,520 glitchy. I don't think it has anything to do with any of the technology 48 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:16,600 here in the studio. I think it's just Facebook being Facebook. So then 49 00:04:16,639 --> 00:04:20,480 Peter White was here this morning to let us in and help us get set 50 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,959 up for our first show in the new place, and he was able to 51 00:04:23,959 --> 00:04:29,319 get on. He had no problem getting logging into Facebook to broadcast, but 52 00:04:29,319 --> 00:04:30,199 then when I went to do it, it won't let me do it. 53 00:04:30,199 --> 00:04:34,639 I'm having the same issue that Paul was last night. So Facebook being Facebook. 54 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:41,160 But you can of course stream the show online at Wmnhradio dot org. 55 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:44,000 Or of course, like I said, you can go to my website Matt 56 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:47,360 connorton dot com and get to it that way too. That will take you 57 00:04:47,399 --> 00:04:50,680 to the link so you can stream it. You can stream it on your 58 00:04:50,759 --> 00:04:55,600 computer, on your mobile device wherever your heart desires. And of course, 59 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:58,959 like I said, if you're local here in Manchester, you can get us 60 00:04:58,959 --> 00:05:02,399 at ninety five point three FM. A little bit of just another thing too 61 00:05:02,439 --> 00:05:09,839 about today's show. You know, since we moved to Saturday mornings, we've 62 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:12,839 been doing very busy, very stacked shows. You know, we're here for 63 00:05:12,879 --> 00:05:15,879 three hours on Saturday, and you know, a lot of guests. You 64 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:17,560 know, we try to have like a different a lot of musical guests. 65 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:21,439 We try to have a different musical guest each hour and so forth. Today's 66 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:25,560 show is a little more laid back, actually a lot more laid back again, 67 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,879 just because we're in the new studio. I wanted to keep it kind 68 00:05:28,879 --> 00:05:32,759 of light this morning, so as we get used to our our new environment 69 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:36,480 here. So we do have guests coming in in the second hour, looking 70 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:40,959 forward to that. Uh, but first hour it's just Jenny and I and 71 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:46,439 we're going to We're gonna be having my old friend Derek Smith, who uh, 72 00:05:47,639 --> 00:05:50,160 well, we'll we'll talk about how Derek and I know each other when 73 00:05:50,199 --> 00:05:53,360 when he gets here, and I think he's gonna have one or two other 74 00:05:53,399 --> 00:05:58,360 people with him because tonight at the Mosaic Art Collective, it's collective, right, 75 00:05:58,519 --> 00:06:00,560 correct. I always want to say studio, but no art collect the 76 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:05,319 Mosaic Art Collective. There's a fascination. Yeah, there's a show there tonight, 77 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:12,800 Abner the Second and it's a bit yeah who has been on the show 78 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:15,600 who played live in studio. He uses a viola and does looping. Yeah, 79 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,360 really really cool. Yeah, what what he does is quite unique. 80 00:06:19,079 --> 00:06:23,160 And also a band called Regals is going to be there and we're going to 81 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:25,879 play over the course of the show. Today, we're going to play a 82 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:29,839 little bit of music from both of those artists. But they're going to be 83 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,920 playing tonight at the Mosaic Art Collective and Jenny and I are going to that 84 00:06:34,399 --> 00:06:38,480 we uh, that'll be the second time that we've been there for a show. 85 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:42,759 Plus we went to that event about it, Yes, about AI. 86 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:46,399 They do a lot of things there. Well we'll get into later, but 87 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:48,480 yeah, yeah, that was really interesting we did. We went there to 88 00:06:48,519 --> 00:06:55,040 talk about AI in art, which is creeping into every aspect of art. 89 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:59,959 Actually. Yes. Oh and Melanie has decided that you must be in phase 90 00:07:00,079 --> 00:07:05,000 book jail and it's all your fault. Uh yeah, yes, by the 91 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:08,720 way, Uh yeah, so that uh so we'll be uh we'll be talking 92 00:07:08,759 --> 00:07:13,160 to uh talking to some people from there today on the show, and we'll 93 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:15,199 get into some other stuff too. But the phone line is open. The 94 00:07:15,199 --> 00:07:17,759 studio line is open if you are listening live, so give us a call. 95 00:07:18,079 --> 00:07:23,399 Six O three two five O six oh seven six O three two five 96 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:28,319 oh six O seven is the studio line. You can also text us at 97 00:07:28,399 --> 00:07:32,680 six one seven nine one seven four four seven six. I'm on social media 98 00:07:32,759 --> 00:07:35,279 at Matt Connorton. You can hit me that way and if I see it 99 00:07:35,319 --> 00:07:40,000 during the show, I will read your comment or inquiry. Of course, 100 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:45,920 you can email me anytime Matt at mattconnorton dot com. But uh, the 101 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:47,680 best thing to do so that we can here and enjoy your Dulca tones is 102 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:51,680 give us a call six O three two five O six O seven six O 103 00:07:51,839 --> 00:07:59,079 three two five oh six O seven. Uh, let's see. I'm trying 104 00:07:59,079 --> 00:08:01,079 to think if there's any anything else I wanted to mention now that we're back. 105 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:07,480 Actually, yes, I am now officially taking bookings. Yes are actually 106 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:11,079 yes, so time slots are actually filling up fairly quickly. So if you 107 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:15,839 are wanting to guest on the show and share your creations, just get me 108 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:20,720 in touch with me. And how how can they do that? Um, 109 00:08:20,279 --> 00:08:28,959 telepathy won't work right, Nope? Like oh I want smoke signal Nope. 110 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:33,039 Alright, Well then I guess they'll have to email me at gen Coffee sixteen 111 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:37,879 at gmail dot com. J E N N C O F F E Y 112 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:45,120 sixteen at gmail dot com. When William from Sepsis was here the last time, 113 00:08:45,159 --> 00:08:48,559 he mentioned something about New England telepathy. But I don't think that's really 114 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:54,279 a thing. Now, wait a minute, how dare you disparage New Englanders? 115 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:56,600 You are one? No, I'm saying New England telepathy. I don't 116 00:08:56,600 --> 00:09:00,720 think that's real. Now, of course it is. Telekinesis perhaps app No, 117 00:09:00,919 --> 00:09:03,200 what do you think it is that makes everybody's memories go away? When 118 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:07,519 when they right before the first snow, and then when the first snow hits 119 00:09:07,759 --> 00:09:09,720 they've all forgotten how to drive? What does that have to do with telepathy? 120 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:15,440 It's meant it's connection. Yes, it's all over New England. It's 121 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:20,120 it's yes, absolutely, I'm telling you by the way, we are all 122 00:09:20,159 --> 00:09:24,679 connected in England. We did play a Sepsis song ope in the show today 123 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:28,000 to played Romance and Reality, their newest single, and of course we played 124 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:35,200 our Unicycle, the radio edit from Jerry and the Scumbags, a band that 125 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:39,720 is particularly near and dear to my heart. Let me give the studio line 126 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:43,240 one more time. Six o three two five six seven six three two five 127 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:48,879 six seven. Uh we do we? Sorry? What? Oh? Lots 128 00:09:48,879 --> 00:09:54,320 of Yes, Yes, I spoke to them yesterday. You were very excited 129 00:09:54,360 --> 00:10:00,879 that we were bringing in the peeps again. Yes, the peeps, the 130 00:10:00,879 --> 00:10:11,360 peoples. I uh some interesting music news. Oh yes, are you familiar 131 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:18,799 with this older lady. She goes by the name Madonna. Madonna, she's 132 00:10:18,879 --> 00:10:22,679 named she's named after the mother of our lord, you know. But uh, 133 00:10:24,159 --> 00:10:28,679 but she also Okay, the reason I make that reference is because I 134 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:31,120 cannot. I can't whenever I think of Madonna, of course, I'm talking 135 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:37,240 about Madonna the musical artist. Whenever I think of Madonna, I I immediately 136 00:10:37,759 --> 00:10:43,279 think back to uh when when we were kids, and uh church Chat was 137 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:50,000 a recurring sketch on Saturday Night Live, the church Lady played by Dana Carvey 138 00:10:50,039 --> 00:10:54,200 and and the uh the guest one week was Sean Penn, and Sean Penn 139 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:56,480 at that time was married to Madonna, so that you know, the church 140 00:10:56,559 --> 00:11:01,840 lady says something about you're married to a woman who named after our Lord or 141 00:11:01,879 --> 00:11:03,320 something like that. So that's that's what I when I think of whenever I 142 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:09,639 think of Madonna. No Madonna, of course, the musician who was popular 143 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:11,879 in the nineteen eighties and has had a lot of plastic surgery. You know, 144 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:16,799 when I think of her, I think of bruss Oh, the Cones, 145 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:22,200 yes, the Cones, the Crown. Yes. Well, apparently she 146 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:26,320 is being sued. This is from you know, I like the BBC because 147 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:30,919 they don't I don't know, I feel like they do a better job than 148 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:35,720 a lot of American media just in general. But you can find this anywhere. 149 00:11:35,759 --> 00:11:37,879 Of course, if you just google Madonna. But the BBC reporting Madonna 150 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:43,480 sued by fans in New York over late concert start time. Have you ever 151 00:11:43,519 --> 00:11:50,200 heard of such a thing? I have not. These these Madonna fans revolting. 152 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:56,200 They're very upset that she started late. Well there's late, and then 153 00:11:56,240 --> 00:12:00,840 there's holy crap, there's no more public transport. I mean, well, 154 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:03,000 that's true, and that is a problem in New York City. Now I 155 00:12:03,039 --> 00:12:05,519 have to assume that none of these people have ever been to a Guns n' 156 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:11,320 Roses concert, because you don't know when Axel Rose is going to finally emerge. 157 00:12:11,759 --> 00:12:15,039 Oh, I think he's gotten better in his old He's actually gotten better 158 00:12:15,039 --> 00:12:18,919 about gone two hours though, like, has he gone to Axel Rose? 159 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:22,879 Oh? There are stories really yeah. But but but from back back in 160 00:12:22,919 --> 00:12:26,480 the day, as I think the young people say, no, I think 161 00:12:26,519 --> 00:12:28,559 he's gotten a lot better about that. Now. I don't think he does 162 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:31,559 that now. But when he was, when he was younger, Yeah, 163 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:35,200 he just he'd make he'd make them wait. But h So this is what 164 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:37,919 Now, by the way, this is not a large scale sort of class 165 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:43,320 action lawsuit. It says here two Madonna fans are suing the singer for being 166 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:46,720 late by more than two hours for a show last month in New York. 167 00:12:46,759 --> 00:12:52,679 According to court documents, they state, the show is meant to start at 168 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:58,200 two thirty Eastern, which would be I'm sorry, well that threw me off. 169 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:01,600 It's written as twenty thirty Eastern, which would actually be, of course, 170 00:13:01,639 --> 00:13:07,159 at eight thirty pm Eastern time. It's the BBC. They do things 171 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:13,039 all British on all three nights, but in each case it did not begin 172 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:18,879 until after twenty two thirty, which would be ten thirty, ending around one 173 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:26,559 am. The case says they quote would not have paid for tickets unquote had 174 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:31,679 they known it would finish so late. The BBC has asked Madonna, Live 175 00:13:31,759 --> 00:13:35,639 Nation and the Barkley Center for comment. The case, brought by Michael Fellows 176 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:41,559 and Jonathan Hadden, states that quote, many ticket holders who attended concerts on 177 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:45,240 a week night had to get up early to go to work and or take 178 00:13:45,279 --> 00:13:50,159 care of their favorite family responsibilities the next day unquote. They're assuing promoter Live 179 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:58,639 Nation and venue the Barkley Center for quote false advertising, negligent misrepresentation, and 180 00:13:58,919 --> 00:14:07,440 unfair and deceptive trade practices unquote. Fellows and hadden't attended the show on Wednesday 181 00:14:07,519 --> 00:14:13,000 thirty the uh again, it's the BBC. Everything's written weird. Let me 182 00:14:13,159 --> 00:14:16,000 December thirteenth. I'll just give you the date. Well, the way this 183 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:22,240 is written, it literally says Wednesday English. Right, Well it may be 184 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:26,600 the Queen's English. But you know, listen, can I just say this. 185 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:31,039 You know here in America we speak American. That's it. We speak 186 00:14:31,039 --> 00:14:35,279 American. So this is difficult for me to read this this way. This 187 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:39,120 is why. Let me also just add this, Okay, this is a 188 00:14:39,159 --> 00:14:43,080 perfect example of why we thought the Revolutionary War. Really we don't usually we 189 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:46,639 don't get political on this show anymore, but I just want to throw that 190 00:14:46,679 --> 00:14:48,320 in. This is why, because of because because of the way this is 191 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:54,360 written, we thro tea Because this is written they attended the show on Wednesday 192 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:58,200 thirteen, December twenty twenty three. That's how it's written. That's how they 193 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:05,240 apparently in the BBC, by the way, is in Wednesday thirteen a band 194 00:15:03,679 --> 00:15:07,919 on the right, So that's confusing to me. Yes, they do date. 195 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:13,720 Yes, yes, the legal documents note that other nights at the same 196 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:20,759 venue on fourteen and sixteen December. That's how it's written. Also, reportedly 197 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:28,960 started more than two hours late. The document says, quote defendants failed to 198 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:33,600 provide any notice to the ticket holders that the concerts would start much later than 199 00:15:33,639 --> 00:15:37,799 the start time printed on that ticket and as advertised, which resulted in the 200 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:43,240 ticket holders waiting for hours unquote. The court papers also say Madonna quote has 201 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:48,120 a long history of arriving and starting her concerts late, sometimes several hours late. 202 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:50,559 Unquote. I didn't know that. So she's just like Axel Rose, 203 00:15:52,279 --> 00:15:56,639 citing examples including quote her twenty sixteen Rebel Heart Tour, her twenty nineteen twenty 204 00:15:56,720 --> 00:16:03,559 twenty Madam X tour, and prior to hers, where Madonna continuously started her 205 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:07,440 concerts over two hours late. Quote. This is a problem. This is 206 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:14,519 a she's she's an habitual offender. Looking to our British brothers and sisters. 207 00:16:14,879 --> 00:16:18,799 They're reporting in the I have no I just own them. I'm very upset 208 00:16:18,799 --> 00:16:23,440 about this whole thing with the dates. Oh so that's stop. The Guardian 209 00:16:23,559 --> 00:16:29,399 is reporting that this is not the first time she's actually been sued over being 210 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:33,879 late to her concert. In twenty nine and twenty twenty, she was sued 211 00:16:33,879 --> 00:16:41,840 by concertos who felt scorned by her lack of punctuality, well score, Yeah, 212 00:16:41,879 --> 00:16:42,960 I love the British writing. Well, I mean it is uh, 213 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:47,159 it is rude. It's rude, well you know, and in all fainness 214 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:49,600 it is. I mean, if you're if you're expecting to get out of 215 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:53,240 a concert at like ten eleven o'clock at night, when the trains are still 216 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:56,919 running and the buses is still running or whatever, and you're gonna get home 217 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:59,799 whatever, you know, But if you're getting out at one o'clock in the 218 00:16:59,799 --> 00:17:03,960 morning and these same services are no longer available in the overnight hours, which 219 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:07,759 is what some of these people are talking about, the people who got like 220 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:11,039 kind of trapped to figure out on how to act to get home. M 221 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:15,200 hm oh yeah, yeah. No in a city like New York, Yeah, 222 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:18,599 that's obviously it's a really good reason. That's a huge issue. I 223 00:17:18,599 --> 00:17:21,960 mean, it's not like it's something bad, like if you've got an accident 224 00:17:22,559 --> 00:17:26,640 or plane got late, something that's beyond our control, understandable. But if 225 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:32,920 it's just because you feel like it, are you know, you're that diva. 226 00:17:33,519 --> 00:17:36,440 No, not just on York side, I'm on their side. Yeah, 227 00:17:36,519 --> 00:17:41,839 any any metropolitan area where you're depending on public transportation, Yeah, that's 228 00:17:41,839 --> 00:17:45,880 going to cause a real problem for you, if you know. I mean, 229 00:17:45,599 --> 00:17:48,440 it's it hasn't happened to me, but I've known people, you know, 230 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:52,599 who go to shows in Boston that for some reason run ridiculously late, 231 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:56,880 and then they you know, and then they have trouble getting getting on the 232 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:59,599 subway. But then you also, if you're a parent, this is your 233 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:03,480 your out. You've got to You've got a babysitter at home who's got school 234 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:07,599 the next day, expected to be home at eleven o'clock at night, I'm 235 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:10,559 less, and they're not getting out of the venue until one am. Yeah, 236 00:18:10,599 --> 00:18:14,599 I'm a little less sympathetic to that argument, only because, well only 237 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:19,400 because you know, I mean, the transportation issue is is something is one 238 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:25,440 thing, but you know, you kind of I mean, it is kind 239 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:27,319 of baked into the cake that if you're going to a concert, you're you're 240 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:30,200 gonna you're gonna be late. You just don't expect to be, but you 241 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:33,759 don't you don't want to be so late that you can't get home. No, 242 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:37,759 I don't know. I don't wire you against the parents. I'm not 243 00:18:37,799 --> 00:18:41,880 against it. I just said I'm less sympathetic to that argue. You have 244 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:45,319 any You see, you don't have any idea how hard it is as a 245 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:48,559 parent. I don't to get time off, to get tickets, to get 246 00:18:48,559 --> 00:18:52,920 a babysitter, if you've got pets, whatever it is, get all of 247 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:56,640 these things lined up so you can have those couple of hours out. Well, 248 00:18:56,960 --> 00:19:00,200 most people, when they hire babysitters, there are other kiddos who got 249 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,799 to go to school the next day, and you can't be sending them home 250 00:19:02,839 --> 00:19:06,680 at two three o'clock in the morning. Well, this is time to get 251 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:08,680 home. This is the entire reason why I never wanted to start a family, 252 00:19:08,839 --> 00:19:12,920 why I have no children of my own, and I decided at a 253 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:18,519 young age I have no I have no interest in being a father, specifically 254 00:19:18,559 --> 00:19:22,799 because if I ever I knew I knew from this is something I understood about 255 00:19:22,799 --> 00:19:26,880 myself from a young age. If I ever wanted to attend a Madonna or 256 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:32,000 a Guns n' Roses concert, the children were just going to drag me down, 257 00:19:32,039 --> 00:19:34,119 because then I'd have to be worried about, you know, the babysitter 258 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:37,119 getting home for them. So I said, you know what, I just 259 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:41,599 can't have kids. What was that did you? What was that sound? 260 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:45,920 Did you hear that it sounded like a train horn track. It actually did. 261 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:48,079 Yeah, maybe it was. We are on street level now, like 262 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:52,759 that's true. Well, that's exciting. We have a crazy cool new building. 263 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:55,359 Yes, and you know what, we can see stuff, but the 264 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:59,359 people outside can't see it. So you can make like silly faces and they 265 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:03,599 won't see you. Says here. The plaintiffs are suing for unspecified damages. 266 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:07,759 This is not the first time fans have expected I'm sorry, I've objected to 267 00:20:07,799 --> 00:20:11,599 the singer being late for her shows, and in twenty nineteen, a fan 268 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:17,599 sued over a delay for a US show, but he voluntarily dismissed the case 269 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:21,599 a month later, according to ABC News. In the same year, Madonna 270 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:26,039 had shared a post of her live on stage in which she told fans, 271 00:20:26,079 --> 00:20:30,599 quote, there's something you all need to understand, and that is that a 272 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:37,720 queen is never late unquote. Oh my, so that's such a so when 273 00:20:37,759 --> 00:20:41,240 she graces us with her presence in her own time, because she's the queen. 274 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:48,000 Thanks, Madonna's sold out qua tonight myself I can be lead everywhere now. 275 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:53,119 Her sold out Celebration tour was a Greatest Hits show, including more than 276 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:59,839 forty songs from her career to celebrate the fortieth anniversary of her breakout single Holiday, 277 00:21:00,039 --> 00:21:03,319 playing venues including the US, Canada, and Europe. The singer had 278 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:04,960 a health scare. I'd forgotten about this. She had a health scare last 279 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:11,400 summer after she was found unconscious in her New York apartment in June and rushed 280 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:15,000 to the hospital, where she received treatment for a serious bacterial infection. She 281 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:18,960 later said she was lucky to be alive and postpone the start of the tour 282 00:21:19,279 --> 00:21:26,440 from July to October last year. See, now that's different. That's way 283 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:30,039 beyond her control. Sure, you know, don't die. We want you 284 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:33,400 to play. Not die. That is beyond her control. But the simply 285 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:38,880 be late, offer no explanation anything like that. Yeah, you just screwed 286 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,559 up a whole bunch of I mean, how many thousands of people were there, 287 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:47,240 right, you know what I mean? And it's a week night. 288 00:21:47,319 --> 00:21:51,720 See it's a weeknight. Really kicks me because it really messes up everybody. 289 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:59,119 Uh huh. But this is a good example too of why. And this 290 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:03,640 is advice that no one will probably take, but you should. If you're 291 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:07,839 gonna buy tickets to to a show, And there's another reason why I say 292 00:22:07,839 --> 00:22:14,079 this. You should always before you buy those tickets, no matter how excited 293 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:19,440 you are, just do some quick light research so you know exactly what you're 294 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:23,200 getting into. There's an element of buyer beware to this, and I'll tell 295 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:27,519 you what I mean by that. So somebody like, see, I didn't 296 00:22:27,519 --> 00:22:30,440 know this about Madonna. I just knew it about guns and Roses because of 297 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:34,200 Axel Rose. But you know, but I've also never been interested in seeing 298 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:38,559 Madonna live. So uh, but you know, you want to know at 299 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:44,200 You kind of want to know what you're getting into because if it's if it's 300 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:47,119 an artist who is notorious for being late, you you know, if it's 301 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,960 going to be a problem for you potentially, like if you have kids and 302 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,119 you know you've you've got a babysitter and you've got to be home at a 303 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:56,000 certain time, you know you're you're gonna want to know that before you buy 304 00:22:56,000 --> 00:23:00,200 those tickets. Especially I assume she's charging outrageous sums of money, because all 305 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:07,880 major artists do. But the other reason I I there's an unrelated reason that 306 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:11,359 I always say this to people too, that has nothing to do with punctuality. 307 00:23:11,519 --> 00:23:18,759 There are a lot of if you're seeing you especially see this with classic 308 00:23:18,839 --> 00:23:25,759 rock bands, seventies you know, rock bands, Eighties rock bands, and 309 00:23:25,759 --> 00:23:27,640 and I suppose at this point some nineties bands as well. You know, 310 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:32,279 if you're going to see a band and you're someone who is concerned about who's 311 00:23:32,599 --> 00:23:37,559 knowing who's actually in the band, for example, or you know, are 312 00:23:37,599 --> 00:23:41,680 they are, how how are how are they doing on stage? Are the 313 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:48,359 shows good? Or are they stumbling out there addled with drugs and alcohol or 314 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:52,920 whatever? It's it's worth well, but it's me that is their issue back 315 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,880 then if you call back then sure, so if you were going to that 316 00:23:55,920 --> 00:24:00,359 concert, you knew, you knew what to expect back then. And yeah, 317 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:04,400 now they're all pretty clean, I think, but much to not be. 318 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:08,079 Yeah, you get to a point where you can't do that anymore or 319 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:11,759 you'll die. But but the reason I say this is there's a lot of 320 00:24:11,759 --> 00:24:17,319 bands now and and some people get upset and they don't realize what they're getting 321 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:22,079 into. So I'll just give you an example. If you say foreigner, 322 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:27,000 this is a perfect example. Say foreigner is touring. If you're someone who's 323 00:24:27,279 --> 00:24:33,839 particularly concerned about who's actually going to be on stage. There's so many examples 324 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:37,839 of this, but Foreigner is a great example. If you're someone who's concerned 325 00:24:37,839 --> 00:24:40,440 about who's actually going to be on stage when you go to see them. 326 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:44,680 Is it going to be any semblance of the original lineup, the one you 327 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,839 grew up with, the one that you love. Is Lou Graham going to 328 00:24:47,839 --> 00:24:51,720 be singing? Spoiler alert? He is not Kelly Hanson I think has been 329 00:24:51,759 --> 00:24:56,240 singing for Foreigner, probably for at least two decades now, longer than Lou 330 00:24:56,279 --> 00:25:00,519 Graham was ever even in the band. You know you're gonna want to do 331 00:25:00,559 --> 00:25:03,799 some it'll take you two minutes. Just do some quick light research before you 332 00:25:03,799 --> 00:25:07,559 buy those tickets. If you're someone who is concerned about that. Now, 333 00:25:07,599 --> 00:25:11,519 the average consumer I don't think cares. But let me just tell you, 334 00:25:11,599 --> 00:25:19,400 if you go to see Foreigner, there's nobody in that band on that stage 335 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:26,440 who is an original member at this point. Even what's his name? Is 336 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:27,839 it Mick Jones? I always get to get the name wrong. I did 337 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:33,440 not know this. The guitar player. It's the guitar player's name something Jones 338 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:37,160 is. I feel like it's Mick Jones, but I'm not sure Anyway, 339 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:48,240 the the guitar player in Foreigner actually now manages the band, and he doesn't 340 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,480 he doesn't even want to be on stage, the original guitar player. Yeah, 341 00:25:51,559 --> 00:25:55,279 yeah, he So he's still he's still part of the band, but 342 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:59,400 not on stage. He runs the band. He acts as tour manager, 343 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:03,079 but he but he lets them go out on stage and perform. He doesn't 344 00:26:03,079 --> 00:26:06,680 want to perform anymore. But right, but he's still you know, so 345 00:26:06,759 --> 00:26:08,839 he's still making that money. Interesting thing. A number of years ago, 346 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:15,400 Foreigner went on a tour with Cheap Trick, but Cheap Trick's management insisted that 347 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:21,759 the guitar player had to actually participate in a certain percentage of the shows. 348 00:26:22,319 --> 00:26:27,559 Oh, they wanted at least one original Yeah. Yeah. Things like that 349 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:33,240 happen when in what was it, two thousand and four or two thousand and 350 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:44,440 five, when Kiss and Aerosmith did their co headlining tour. They Aerosmith actually 351 00:26:44,599 --> 00:26:48,480 closed out every show. Kiss was on first and then Aerosmith, so they 352 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:52,720 weren't really co headlining because you know, whoever goes on last is truly the 353 00:26:52,759 --> 00:26:57,400 headliner. So really Aerosmith was the headliner and Kiss was the opener. They 354 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:02,759 called it a co headlining tour because they're both like that. But the thing 355 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,680 is, so dare you say such thing? Well, the thing is, 356 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:11,759 though Aerosmith management, when they put that deal together, they had leverage because 357 00:27:11,799 --> 00:27:18,160 Aerosmith had all five original members, whereas Kiss had a different guitar player because 358 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:22,599 Ace Frehley had left the band again, so they had Tommy Thayer on guitar. 359 00:27:22,319 --> 00:27:26,799 So when they were putting the deal for the tour together, which Doc 360 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,839 McGee, the manager of Kiss who's still the manager of Kiss today, he 361 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:33,680 really wanted that tour. He really wanted that tour, so he agreed, 362 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,319 you know, okay, so Kiss will open all the shows. We're gonna 363 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:37,720 call it co headliner. They're going to play the same amount of time, 364 00:27:37,759 --> 00:27:42,480 but Kiss is going to open every night because Aerosmith had had all five original 365 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:47,839 members and Kiss only had three of the four original members. So Aerosmith had 366 00:27:47,839 --> 00:27:52,880 that leverage. But I'm just saying, if you're someone who because you know, 367 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:53,960 every once in a while, I'll see people online. Oh I went 368 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:59,240 to see such and such band and I didn't even recognize anybody on the stage. 369 00:28:00,039 --> 00:28:03,519 I can out first do some light research. There are there have been 370 00:28:03,559 --> 00:28:07,480 instances where this is something I'd have to do a little deeper research to really 371 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:11,160 get into the subject in depth, but we'll do it on a future show 372 00:28:11,279 --> 00:28:15,359 because it is a fascinating subject. I think there was a point where remember 373 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,599 the band La Guns. Yes, the Ballad of Jane was like their big, 374 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:22,480 massive hit, but they had a few other hits. Oh, that's 375 00:28:22,559 --> 00:28:26,440 right, Edgewise open for La Guns right right right over there, right right, 376 00:28:26,519 --> 00:28:30,680 because we're on Canal Street now, so right across the street at Jewel 377 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:34,559 that's right. I forgot about that. There was a point where there were 378 00:28:34,599 --> 00:28:40,119 two versions of La Guns touring at the same time, one with Tracy Guns 379 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:47,279 and one other version with I think the singer, and it was yeah and 380 00:28:47,279 --> 00:28:52,200 and of course and well that's crazy. Yeah, you know now he is. 381 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,400 You have to be a deep fan to know which concert to go to 382 00:28:55,559 --> 00:29:00,000 or like, whose side are you on. That's why I tell everybody if 383 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,519 if it matters to you, if it matters to you, And like I 384 00:29:02,559 --> 00:29:04,400 said too, you know, to the average no clue, to the average 385 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:08,640 concertgoer who just likes going to a concert, they probably don't even care. 386 00:29:08,759 --> 00:29:14,119 And that's what the industry depends on. That's what these these bands who do 387 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:15,759 this, that's what they depend on. You don't care who's in the band, 388 00:29:15,799 --> 00:29:21,319 so it doesn't matter, and everybody's replaceable. But if you do care, 389 00:29:21,759 --> 00:29:25,720 do the research. And and to kind of circle back to the Madonna 390 00:29:25,759 --> 00:29:27,440 thing again, you know it's going to be the real Madonna, unless it's 391 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:32,839 an AI version of Madonna or something. But do the research. If you're 392 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:36,279 concerned about what time you're going to be getting out of that venue, do 393 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,680 the research. I don't think it's going to be too far that we're not 394 00:29:40,599 --> 00:29:42,680 look at it, look at it? Is that AI? Is that not 395 00:29:42,759 --> 00:29:47,240 AI? I mean, isn't Kiss supposed to be setting up something like that? 396 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:53,799 The avatars? Yeah, that's all. It's basically it's AI. Yeah. 397 00:29:55,599 --> 00:30:02,279 So yeah, we may welcome to the twenty second Center. Twenty first 398 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:04,440 No, not yet, Okay, No, I have to say, though 399 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:08,079 I love living in my jestsine world, I really do remember your kid, 400 00:30:08,119 --> 00:30:14,000 you've watched that stuff. Now now we have it, we can come on 401 00:30:15,079 --> 00:30:17,759 yet all right, I don't have my car and suitcase yet. I'll give 402 00:30:17,799 --> 00:30:21,359 you that. I'll give you that, but I do have the screen come 403 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:29,799 up and somebody there and we can Yeah. Yeah, but uh, I 404 00:30:29,799 --> 00:30:33,680 don't know why. I mean, I don't know how this lawsuit is gonna 405 00:30:33,759 --> 00:30:37,400 end up. But I assume, you know, just uh, just refund 406 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:45,319 their money, right something. You would think that hopefully nothing really really bad 407 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,480 happened because of this, right. There's a huge difference between getting out of 408 00:30:48,519 --> 00:30:53,079 a venue around eleven o'clock and getting out at one am. There really is 409 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:56,039 a big difference between them. Yeah, and I don't blame people for being 410 00:30:56,119 --> 00:31:00,359 upset if there was no good reason, given it doesn't sound like they any 411 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,359 reason. Well, if something happened in her defense, I mean, she 412 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:07,200 had that post from a while ago when she said, you know, she's 413 00:31:07,319 --> 00:31:10,920 the queen. Yeah, that's not good enough. She's never late. Yeah, 414 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:14,160 no, that's Queen Latiza shows up on time and she is the queen 415 00:31:14,319 --> 00:31:17,119 of course. Yeah. Yeah, no, no, I don't. I 416 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,799 don't think that's good enough. No. I think you owe your fans something 417 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:25,160 when they're gonna come spend all that money to come see you and spend money 418 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:30,200 on all your march. I wonder if she sings live, can you imagine 419 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,839 standing well for me, it would never happen. I could have never if 420 00:31:33,839 --> 00:31:41,440 you had seats that were a ground level. Everybody's standing or your no seat. 421 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,240 What if you're on the floor, there's no seat, you're standing there, 422 00:31:44,759 --> 00:31:47,599 and you're spending over two hours on your feet before you even get to 423 00:31:47,599 --> 00:31:49,960 see a show. No better be a good show. I couldn't do that. 424 00:31:51,039 --> 00:31:52,000 I would have to leave. Do you think she sings live or does 425 00:31:52,039 --> 00:31:56,359 she lipsing? Of course I wouldn't be her non seated because she probably still 426 00:31:56,400 --> 00:32:00,240 dances around, right, she probably can't sing live anymore? Does her face 427 00:32:00,279 --> 00:32:05,039 even move? Have you seen her? Have you seen her? It's awful. 428 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:09,240 Have you seen how strange she looks. I'm just saying because she's she's 429 00:32:09,279 --> 00:32:13,720 had all that. I mean, she looks weird. A lot of she 430 00:32:13,759 --> 00:32:17,559 looks very strange. A lot of people seem to enjoy plastic surgery in a 431 00:32:17,599 --> 00:32:22,680 way that it's psychologically addictive. Yes, I believe that. Yeah, oh 432 00:32:22,759 --> 00:32:27,079 yeah, no, it definitely is. Yeah. Then you're staring at yourself, 433 00:32:27,079 --> 00:32:30,119 always looking for flaws. I hate that. I hate that it makes 434 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:37,440 people do that. I suspect what happens is beautiful people have they get the 435 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,839 plastic surgery, and then they're they're not happy with the result and they probably 436 00:32:40,839 --> 00:32:45,960 it becomes like, you know how if you know how if you're addicted to 437 00:32:45,279 --> 00:32:50,319 uh well, addicted to anything, if you're addicted to drugs, and you 438 00:32:50,359 --> 00:32:52,839 get into that, Okay, just one more fix, just one more fix. 439 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:54,599 Or if you're addicted to video games, you know, just one more 440 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:58,000 game, just one more game, and then we're gonna put down this controller. 441 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,599 I think I think it's the same thing. It's probably probably the same 442 00:33:00,599 --> 00:33:02,759 thing with plastic surgery. You get plastic surgery, and then you thought it 443 00:33:02,839 --> 00:33:06,359 was going to make you look so much younger and it doesn't, and then 444 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:07,440 you go, all right, I'm just going to get one more surgery, 445 00:33:07,559 --> 00:33:10,440 just one more surgery, just this, yeah, just that, yeah, 446 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,920 and then you end up like and then you end up like Kenny Rodgers. 447 00:33:14,599 --> 00:33:16,519 Like remember, like in the last ten years that he was still alive, 448 00:33:16,599 --> 00:33:21,759 he looked like a different person, Like he had a different face because you 449 00:33:21,799 --> 00:33:25,400 know, he just kept getting plastic surgery. And it can be pretty addictive 450 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:29,640 to people, you know, but I'll never shame somebody for doing it. 451 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:35,119 But you know me, personally, I love imperfection. I think imperfection is 452 00:33:35,119 --> 00:33:37,880 the most beautiful thing in art everything. I like when I make scarves and 453 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:42,279 things. There's always something maybe a stitch got dropped and I pulled it back 454 00:33:42,359 --> 00:33:45,240 up, or one's a little tighter than the other. That's part of what 455 00:33:45,279 --> 00:33:49,759 makes it special and unique is that each one has its own and that's what 456 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,759 I like about art. I don't want it to be. If I want 457 00:33:52,799 --> 00:33:58,920 something perfect computerized, well that I can go to a computer. But if 458 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:02,680 I want something that's that has passion in it, or emotion or feeling whatever 459 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:06,920 it is that I'm looking at, I want those imperfections. It's what makes 460 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:10,159 them beautiful. Uh. Six O three two five six seven is a studio 461 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:14,119 line six O three two five six seven. If you'd like to chime in 462 00:34:14,199 --> 00:34:19,559 on anything. Hey, Uh a separate story just briefly, but uh, 463 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,679 because we have guests coming in in the second hour. But uh, this 464 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:28,400 is story on the Verge dot com, which is a great site. Uh. 465 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:34,280 TikTok can generate AI songs, but it probably shouldn't, it says here. 466 00:34:35,119 --> 00:34:38,400 TikTok has launched many songs that have gone viral over the years, but 467 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:45,119 now it's testing a feature that lets more people exercise their songwriting skills with some 468 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:52,199 help from AI. AI song generates songs from text prompts with the help of 469 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:58,840 large language model Bloom. Users can write out lyrics on the text field when 470 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:04,199 making a post. TikTok will then recommend AI song to add sounds to the 471 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:10,400 post excuse me, and they can toggle the song's genre. Quote. It's 472 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:15,400 not technically an AI song generator, the name is likely to change and it's 473 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:21,920 currently in testing at the moment. Unquote. Barney Hooper, spokesperson for TikTok, 474 00:35:22,519 --> 00:35:27,480 excuse me, send in an email to the Verge. Quote. Any 475 00:35:27,559 --> 00:35:32,840 music used is from a pre saved catalog created within the business. In essence, 476 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:37,320 it pairs the lyrics with the pre saved music based on three genres, 477 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:43,599 pop, hip hop, and edm unquote. The feature was first spotted last 478 00:35:43,639 --> 00:35:46,320 week. AI song doesn't seem to be available to everyone yet, but some 479 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:52,320 TikTok users have already begun experimenting with it. The results so far are not 480 00:35:52,599 --> 00:35:58,480 great. Many are out of time despite the availability of auto tuning vocals. 481 00:35:59,119 --> 00:36:04,559 There's an exam we'll hear from user Jonah Manzano, who created a song that 482 00:36:04,639 --> 00:36:07,960 somehow tried to make the word comedy have more syllables than it needs. Another 483 00:36:08,079 --> 00:36:13,239 user I would play these, but I don't know if there's any bad language 484 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:17,800 in them. Another user, Christy Lalani, sort of recreated a Britney Spears 485 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:22,159 song, but again with severely out of time vocals. I'm curious to hear 486 00:36:22,159 --> 00:36:27,000 those AI generated songs, however, are not new to TikTok. The now 487 00:36:27,079 --> 00:36:32,800 infamous AI Drake and the weekend song Heart on My Sleeve gained virality on the 488 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:38,000 platform. Bad Buddy also criticized people for listening to an AI sound alike posted 489 00:36:38,079 --> 00:36:44,519 on TikTok. TikTok is not the only platform to lean into generative AI features 490 00:36:44,559 --> 00:36:50,159 for its users. YouTube began testing a music creation functionality that lets users make 491 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:55,000 songs from either text prompts or a hummed tune dream track, allows for thirty 492 00:36:55,039 --> 00:37:00,440 second snippets in the style of other popular artists. To be more sparent, 493 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:05,719 TikTok rolled out other features that help identify AI created content on the app and 494 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:12,000 updated its rules requiring users to be upfront about using AI in their content. 495 00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:17,159 So hey, we should mention too you you've been posting videos on TikTok and 496 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:21,440 doing quite Oh, let me unmute your mic there and doing quite well. 497 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:27,119 Yeah, that's not the weirdest thing. Like, I just really haven't put 498 00:37:27,159 --> 00:37:30,559 a lot up there. But yeah, I mean, shoot, one of 499 00:37:30,559 --> 00:37:34,599 my videos is over thirty three hundred. Yeah, yeah, but there's quite 500 00:37:34,639 --> 00:37:37,840 a number of them that are well over a thousand, actually a lot more 501 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,199 than I realized now that I'm looking at it. Yeah, I only just 502 00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:45,800 recently started playing with TikTok and it seems like a fun space. Yeah, 503 00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:52,159 Rocky say on there. Oh, our friend Rocky Hubert yeh, TikTok channel 504 00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,159 on there. He does very well. Yeah, he does a lot. 505 00:37:54,840 --> 00:38:00,400 It's interesting that you just get these little small snippets of things. But it 506 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:02,760 is addictive when you talk about addiction. It is addictive because you can sit 507 00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:07,079 there and just scroll in video video video. It's very easy to go down 508 00:38:07,079 --> 00:38:12,119 that rabbit hole and stay there. But it's also really cool to see snippets 509 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:16,519 of other people's stuff I've got, So it's yeah, it's a rabbit hole 510 00:38:16,559 --> 00:38:20,719 that you can enjoy but try not to disappear into. Well, that's the 511 00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:22,280 thing, I mean, the addictive nature of it. And again that you 512 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,079 know, as we were just talking about a few minutes ago, a psychological 513 00:38:25,119 --> 00:38:30,239 addiction, it's kind of what they're counting on in a way, right, 514 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,719 I think that's part of the business model, is that you'll get hooked in 515 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:39,119 and you know, and that's true of any platform really, not just you 516 00:38:39,199 --> 00:38:44,000 know, there's a lot of talk these days about how social media people become 517 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,000 addicted to it, but really, anything anything that you do online, any 518 00:38:46,039 --> 00:38:49,760 website, if it's a blog, side, if it's anything, well it's 519 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,800 perfect for it. They want to keep you there as much as they can. 520 00:38:52,119 --> 00:38:57,519 Well, when these and the fact that their snippets actually helps that it's 521 00:38:57,519 --> 00:39:00,239 a small moment of time and then you're onto the next, on to the 522 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:04,280 next. Right when you watch a video, you might get two three minutes 523 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,599 into it and you're going, I don't know, I'm getting kind of tied 524 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,239 of this and you move along to something else. When you're looking at something 525 00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:14,400 that's so short, it's easy to keep your attention because there's always something new 526 00:39:14,519 --> 00:39:17,239 rotating in front of you. Yeah, so it's very easy to get suck 527 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:21,679 into that. I mean, I'm not obviously, I'm on there now, 528 00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,199 so obviously I'm not against it. I think it's got its place. I 529 00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:29,079 think it's a fun way to share art at least, you know, Yeah, 530 00:39:29,199 --> 00:39:32,199 to be creative. Yeah, it's a great creative space. I don't 531 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:37,480 like this AI and songs though, I mean, because they're one hundred percent 532 00:39:37,599 --> 00:39:42,639 the music that they're using is everybody else's. Yeah, it's not original music. 533 00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,840 Although is there really any original music if you think of it. I'm 534 00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:49,679 curious to try it and play around with it, you want to flare around. 535 00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,360 The only thing I've done so far is uh, just you know, 536 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:57,519 when I started using chat GPT, which is fun, and of course I 537 00:39:57,599 --> 00:40:00,800 use it in my work somewhat, but I like, I asked it to 538 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:06,920 write a kiss song, you know, and I came up with you know, 539 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:12,159 is pretty pretty silly lyrics. So you see, I'm still on the 540 00:40:12,159 --> 00:40:16,199 fence. I have a book in progress, and I keep thinking about how 541 00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:20,679 I'm going to edit this book. Yeah, and there's a part of me 542 00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,360 that says, geez, maybe I should use AI to edit. It would 543 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:27,920 get a lot of that stuff, and it would give me the control of 544 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,480 making sure that my voice doesn't get lost. But then do I want my 545 00:40:30,559 --> 00:40:36,519 written work on this thing. I'm really on the fence. I can't make 546 00:40:36,599 --> 00:40:42,159 up my mind just yet on should I use the AI to do the editing 547 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,840 and try and try and just do it one hundred percent of my own, 548 00:40:45,119 --> 00:40:49,440 or should I try and find somebody that can work with me and help string 549 00:40:49,519 --> 00:40:53,039 the story along together and edit with me. You know, I think using 550 00:40:53,039 --> 00:41:01,320 it for editing would be probably not not great. I don't think. I 551 00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:05,599 don't think it would be effective for that. Like I use it for if 552 00:41:05,639 --> 00:41:09,960 I have something that's going on a website that I want to say, you 553 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:15,880 know, edit this, but maximize it for search engine optimization in terms of 554 00:41:16,119 --> 00:41:21,880 using keywords. But I think for I think for writing, for editing your 555 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,000 writing, I think it would be uh. I think I think you'd you'd 556 00:41:25,199 --> 00:41:34,159 accidentally stumble into plagiarism because it's going to start. I think it's it's going 557 00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:40,039 to start editing that based on what else is out there, and you're you're 558 00:41:40,079 --> 00:41:44,920 gonna end up. I think you would end up accidentally plagiarizing something. Now, 559 00:41:45,559 --> 00:41:49,000 now there's other tools you can use, right, but there's other tools 560 00:41:49,039 --> 00:41:52,800 you can then use to fix that. I wasn't even going there. I 561 00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:57,000 was thinking more about the fear of putting my writing on this thing. Yeah, 562 00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:00,880 you know, well but that but but that's going to happen anyway. 563 00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:04,239 Once you publish it, you're putting it out in the world. Now. 564 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:08,599 Grammarly has a plagiarism checker, and there's other tools you can use for that 565 00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:15,800 too, that will then take that content and unplagiarize it. For you have 566 00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:21,400 a weird thing about my writing and that I am always assessed to using words 567 00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:24,480 that most people don't use. So I don't usually run into that. I 568 00:42:24,519 --> 00:42:30,079 come, it's weird. All those games and things you do, I always 569 00:42:30,119 --> 00:42:34,239 end up in the weird, weird zone. But I would hate to mix 570 00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:37,159 it. And then you're not sure what part is mine? What part did 571 00:42:37,159 --> 00:42:40,320 it use? Yeah, no, I think you just talked me out even 572 00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:45,400 considering it. Yeah, I don't. I never thought about it on that 573 00:42:45,559 --> 00:42:49,840 side. I don't. I mean, I'm not an expert, but I've 574 00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:54,199 been trying to learn all that I can because it's fascinating. It is fascinating, 575 00:42:54,199 --> 00:42:58,480 and you can do some really cool things with chat GPT mm hmm. 576 00:42:59,159 --> 00:43:01,480 Well let's let's let's do this. We'll take a break. We're going to 577 00:43:01,519 --> 00:43:05,199 play a couple of songs and then show some love to our amazing sponsors, 578 00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:07,599 and then we've got our number two coming up. We've got guests who I'm 579 00:43:07,639 --> 00:43:10,360 really looking forward to talking to. But I think I'm gonna play something from 580 00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:15,519 I'm gonna play something from Abner, the second song called the Audrey at Burns, 581 00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:19,719 which he played here, well not here, but when we were in 582 00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:22,599 the old studio, which which he played live for us. And I'm also 583 00:43:22,639 --> 00:43:28,440 going to play a track for Regals who are also playing tonight. They've got 584 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:32,360 I assume it's the single because they have a video for it called the Orbit 585 00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:35,239 of Your Heart. Although I had to make it. I had to make 586 00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,159 a radio edit of it because there's a bad word, but I didn't even 587 00:43:37,199 --> 00:43:39,000 pick up on that there is a bad word, but I made it. 588 00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:44,639 But I made a radio edit because I really want to play it because it 589 00:43:44,679 --> 00:43:46,000 is a great song. That's awesome. So we'll play those. We're going 590 00:43:46,039 --> 00:43:49,400 to show some love to our amazing sponsors, and then we'll be back with 591 00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,960 our number two. We've got guests, our first guests in the new studio 592 00:43:52,039 --> 00:43:57,639 here on Canal Street, so we are live. Matt Connorton Unleashed will continue 593 00:43:57,679 --> 00:44:02,559 does continue live from w M and H ninety five point three in glorious Manchester, 594 00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:07,159 New Hampshire and uh here's uh here it is the Audrey It burns from 595 00:44:07,519 --> 00:44:19,400 Abner the Second or Abner two. You're listening to wum and h come he 596 00:44:19,679 --> 00:44:58,599 God, don't get so freenly mattself coving. Welcome back everybody. It is 597 00:44:58,679 --> 00:45:04,840 Matt connorton on as we enter our number two New Marrow Dose live from the 598 00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:08,920 studios of w m n H ninety five point three FM and Glorious Manchester, 599 00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:12,960 New Hampshire, our brand new studio on Canal Street. So yes, we 600 00:45:13,039 --> 00:45:17,119 are actually live. It is January twentieth, twenty twenty four. I hope 601 00:45:17,119 --> 00:45:21,079 I said. Did I say twenty four at the start of the show today? 602 00:45:21,079 --> 00:45:23,880 I'm worried I actually said twenty three. I think he said twenty four. 603 00:45:24,079 --> 00:45:27,800 You know how people get, you know, they forget, like they 604 00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,800 write the wrong year on checks and whatnot. For the first month. Most 605 00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:34,079 people don't even write checks anymore. That's true. I'm just worried that I 606 00:45:34,119 --> 00:45:37,280 actually will have to tell people don't even write anymore. We'll have to listen 607 00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:39,519 back to the podcast. I'm worried that I said twenty three at the start 608 00:45:39,559 --> 00:45:43,880 of the thick on you if it is or I could just edit it and 609 00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,400 then no one will know ha ha, I will know you will, I 610 00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:50,400 will tell you. So. Jenny is here of course at the news desk. 611 00:45:50,519 --> 00:45:52,760 I am present and account at four and if you are just joining us, 612 00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,880 like I said, this is our so of course you know the morning 613 00:45:55,880 --> 00:46:00,800 show's been here now and last night I was here for retch Spectrum Radio with 614 00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:02,760 poly C but the way, thank you, thank you, But this is 615 00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:07,239 our first Matt Connorton Unleashed in the new studio. Tell you you inspired me 616 00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:10,960 to paint last night. What do you mean, Oh, the show Retrospector 617 00:46:12,039 --> 00:46:14,639 Radio inspired you? Yeah, big time? Oh good. I'll have to 618 00:46:14,679 --> 00:46:16,559 show you the canvas when we go home. Yes, and a beautiful background 619 00:46:16,559 --> 00:46:22,199 started. Excellent, excellent. So we also have our first guests on Matt 620 00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:27,199 Connorton Unleashed now that we are are in the new studio. So we have 621 00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:30,000 my old friend Derek Smith is here. Hello, Derek, I met, 622 00:46:30,199 --> 00:46:36,360 Nice to see you, and and uh you brought Nick and Chloe here with 623 00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:39,639 you. Welcome, nice to be here, thanks for having and uh and 624 00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:44,159 I got to turn those mics. I'm getting used to getting used to the 625 00:46:44,159 --> 00:46:46,800 new MIC's here, the new setup. Turn you guys up a little bit 626 00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:52,159 there. So Uh. Now, obviously I've known Derek for like twenty years, 627 00:46:52,199 --> 00:46:55,480 but uh, who are who are the two of you? Who are 628 00:46:55,599 --> 00:47:01,519 Nick and Chloe? Well, my name's Cloches Stoptmeyer and Nick and I are 629 00:47:01,559 --> 00:47:07,760 both representatives and board members of a really cool space that's kind of coming up 630 00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:13,920 and coming here in Manchester. Yes, yes, it's called the Mosaic Arts 631 00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:17,480 Collective, located at sixty six Hanover Street, right next to the Palace Theater 632 00:47:17,599 --> 00:47:25,840 and a couple other really important Hanover Street entities. We are more than just 633 00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:31,800 a gallery. We do have gallery space where lots of local artists are exhibiting 634 00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:37,039 over the last year and it's been really fulfilling to see these local artists come 635 00:47:37,119 --> 00:47:43,599 from all over New Hampshire and beyond New Hampshire to come show their work of 636 00:47:43,639 --> 00:47:47,559 all levels in the space. But one of the cool things about Mosaic is 637 00:47:47,599 --> 00:47:54,119 that it's not just a gallery. It is also a studio space and a 638 00:47:54,159 --> 00:48:00,920 workshop space and a classroom and a collective for all of the arts community of 639 00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:07,519 Manchester to kind of share and come together. And m yeah, that's artists 640 00:48:07,559 --> 00:48:13,480 that are just starting out, that's established artists we do art calls, so 641 00:48:13,559 --> 00:48:19,199 like anyone can enter and join a show and show what they have. Ok. 642 00:48:20,679 --> 00:48:22,320 Sorry, okay, I forgot I muted my mic for a second. 643 00:48:23,519 --> 00:48:27,039 Yeah, I'm still getting used to the new the new set up here. 644 00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,280 Yeah, Jenny and I have been there, so we've been there twice now. 645 00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:35,280 We were there for the show. Uh there for a concert. Yeah, 646 00:48:35,559 --> 00:48:37,320 who was who was? I forget who was playing that night? Derek 647 00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:40,960 will remember that was back in December. Yeah, yeah, and that was 648 00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:49,239 the first one had Evan Benoit Happy just to see you and the DJ visit 649 00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:52,880 from Portland, Maine. Yeah, yep, yeah, he was great. 650 00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:55,199 Well, both both of them were really good. And then we were there 651 00:48:55,280 --> 00:49:00,280 a number of weeks ago for the during the daytime for there was a presentation 652 00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:05,840 of talk on AI in art in many different forms, which was really interesting. 653 00:49:06,679 --> 00:49:09,119 I really learned a lot about AI that I did not know before. 654 00:49:09,199 --> 00:49:13,519 So it was a great talk and I know they have more things like that 655 00:49:13,559 --> 00:49:21,119 coming up. And tonight we're gonna go see Abner the second Yes and Regal 656 00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:24,119 Yes, Regals. Forgive me, I forgot to put the s on. 657 00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:28,559 Yeah, I was checking checking them out last night. I was really enjoying 658 00:49:28,599 --> 00:49:30,800 their music, so I'm looking forward to seeing them live tonight. And the 659 00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:36,159 space is so uniquely cool in that the Misaic are collective. When you walk 660 00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:40,880 in, it's just it's art. You walk into this this really amazing space 661 00:49:42,159 --> 00:49:45,679 that has different different people's work, different types of talents, different types of 662 00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:51,280 textures and styles, and then you have this warm room in the middle where 663 00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:54,920 the music is and everybody can gather and and then there's a lot of artist 664 00:49:54,920 --> 00:50:00,559 spaces there. They're beautiful. It's just a really uniquely cool place, that 665 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:04,159 little little diamond on the rough of the city that even once you know it's 666 00:50:04,199 --> 00:50:08,559 there, yeah, right right, yeah, it is sort of set up. 667 00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:14,000 We are located on the second floor, so we are a little kind 668 00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:17,800 of set back and a little hidden there, but it is a diamond when 669 00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:23,599 you when you first walk in. And the space has served a numerous amount 670 00:50:23,639 --> 00:50:30,320 of purposes for many artists and creative in Manchester over the last year plus. 671 00:50:30,679 --> 00:50:35,280 I love that you guys have been into shows and seeing some of our music 672 00:50:35,679 --> 00:50:37,840 that's happened so far. That's really exciting. Yeah. Oh yeah, yeah, 673 00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:42,639 no, we fell in love really quickly. Yeah, absolutely, No, 674 00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:45,280 very cool place now, so so the two of you, Nick and 675 00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:47,079 Kloy, so you're both on the board. Correct's correct? Now? How 676 00:50:47,119 --> 00:50:51,400 did so how did this get started? How did the art collective get started? 677 00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:55,960 So it started back in August they did a show called Full Circle and 678 00:50:57,039 --> 00:50:59,559 it was kind of, like I said, an art call so local artists 679 00:50:59,559 --> 00:51:04,719 could are participate. My friend Cassie has sent me a link and I entered 680 00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:08,519 and I met Liz when I dropped off, and it was just extremely warm 681 00:51:08,559 --> 00:51:13,079 and welcome. You just walk in and you just kind of feel like comfortable 682 00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:16,760 and it's just kind of been like that all year and it's snowballed and now 683 00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:23,719 we're a nonprofit with the board which we joined, and it's it's just a 684 00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:30,920 nice spot for people to show this art that are local. And right now 685 00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:34,159 there's a show called This is Us plus Some, so the board members brought 686 00:51:34,199 --> 00:51:38,239 in a guest each to show some art that are like local leaders in the 687 00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:43,119 in the area. Yea, really all of New England, but mostly local 688 00:51:43,159 --> 00:51:50,280 to the after Okay, I assume you know we we always talk Jenny and 689 00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:53,239 I talked about talk about this on the show quite a bit, you know, 690 00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:55,480 because we have a lot of musicians on. We're always talking about how 691 00:51:55,519 --> 00:52:00,320 it's amazing how much local talent there is and and you would you know, 692 00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:06,519 you almost and I assume it's not obviously, it's not unique to this area 693 00:52:06,599 --> 00:52:08,599 any anywhere. Really, you know, there's you're going to find a lot 694 00:52:08,639 --> 00:52:15,000 of music, local musicians in your area who are doing really great stuff. 695 00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:20,880 And I don't think people who aren't paying attention realize just how much talent there 696 00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:25,119 is going on around them that they're not aware of unless they're actually taking the 697 00:52:25,159 --> 00:52:29,320 time to investigate and go out to see shows or go just go online and 698 00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:32,320 find what local musicians are doing. I assume it's the same with art, 699 00:52:32,559 --> 00:52:37,199 right, that there's just all this talent all around us that unless you're really 700 00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:42,199 kind of tuned in and paying attention, you don't even you don't even know 701 00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:45,320 that it's there unless you at least put in the effort to you know, 702 00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:50,679 to check out a place like Mosaic and explore. Yeah. Absolutely, Mosaic 703 00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:53,239 was the first place that I ever showed. I had no idea. I've 704 00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:57,480 lived in New Hampshire for ten years now, so yeah, it's like I 705 00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:01,400 had no idea that everyone was around here doing uh this much it's the community. 706 00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:06,199 I just was oblivious too. Yeah, So it's really cool just to 707 00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:08,320 see and meet all these people over the year and it felt like it felt 708 00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:13,639 like years really been one year, so it's like this place is just kind 709 00:53:13,639 --> 00:53:16,280 of blown up in Manchester. That's really cool that that was your first time. 710 00:53:16,639 --> 00:53:20,239 I talked to Liz, and at some point, when I get daring 711 00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:22,559 enough, i'll submit something. But I like hearing that you did it for 712 00:53:22,599 --> 00:53:28,519 the first time and then here you are, So that's awesome encouraging, it's 713 00:53:28,639 --> 00:53:31,840 encouraging. What goes into that is showing? Is that the right term? 714 00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:37,280 Show? Sure? Exhibitioning showing? Yeah, like what goes into that? 715 00:53:38,159 --> 00:53:45,039 So it is, uh, it's a team effort. So this this current 716 00:53:45,039 --> 00:53:46,880 show that we have up was a little bit of a different structure. It 717 00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:52,239 was an invitation structure, so that was a little bit different. We we 718 00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:55,119 reached out to artists and invited them to come into the space and show. 719 00:53:55,719 --> 00:54:01,039 Typically we run a open call every month, and for an open call, 720 00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:08,360 anybody is welcome to enter, and we love that everybody does. Like when 721 00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:12,400 you say everybody, like how many people doesn't end up being Oh, it 722 00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:16,599 depends. So some of the things that might dictate who enters a show are 723 00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:22,559 We try to assign a theme to each month that might be relevant to something 724 00:54:22,599 --> 00:54:27,679 that's happening in the month or relevant to our own timeline as a gallery. 725 00:54:29,159 --> 00:54:34,920 So I think different themes attract different kinds of artists and attract different kinds of 726 00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:39,280 work. So, for example, in October, this most recent October, 727 00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:45,400 we did the Never More show, and I think Halloween is a very popular 728 00:54:45,519 --> 00:54:47,960 thing for artists. I can imagine. Yeah, yeah, thats we had 729 00:54:49,199 --> 00:54:55,079 just an influx of just amazing work, all inspired by spooky October things. 730 00:54:55,320 --> 00:55:00,800 Yes, and that was on the flip end, you know. Then the 731 00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:07,440 board has to get together and review all these submissions and make selections, and 732 00:55:07,199 --> 00:55:12,559 once we have that list of work that's selected to make it into the show, 733 00:55:13,039 --> 00:55:15,119 then we have to hang it on the wall. Yeah yeah, So 734 00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:20,199 that has always been fun. And I think I can speak for more than 735 00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:24,480 just myself when I say the hanging parties that we do at Mosaic have been 736 00:55:25,039 --> 00:55:30,280 a really huge team building experience for the steps or those of us that are 737 00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:37,119 involved with that process. We have really had every month just this wonderful point 738 00:55:37,159 --> 00:55:45,440 to come together, touch touch base, kind of collaborate on on this on 739 00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:50,119 this show, that's going to mean something to everyone, not just us, 740 00:55:50,119 --> 00:55:52,800 and it's it provides all of us such a such a great feeling of fulfillment 741 00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:58,239 and happiness, and we all walk away from those days those evenings feeling really 742 00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:04,199 uplifted, and you know, I think recognizing what this was all about in 743 00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:10,840 the first place, Liz moved. Liz is the owner and founder of Mosaic, 744 00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:16,079 and she moved back into this area to hooks the area after living in 745 00:56:16,159 --> 00:56:20,480 Vermont for quite a while, and I think her time in Vermont, she 746 00:56:20,519 --> 00:56:27,559 found that there was a really thriving, collaborative local arts community and when she 747 00:56:27,639 --> 00:56:34,599 moved back to this space, was sort of surprised to see a different environment 748 00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:39,800 in this space. And I think she saw identified and then executed the need 749 00:56:40,119 --> 00:56:49,679 to produce a space where the local artists here in Manchester could come and really 750 00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:55,119 live up to what some of the other like small local art communities in the 751 00:56:55,679 --> 00:57:00,440 US are doing all around us. And it's sort of collected and organized that 752 00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:07,960 effort into one space. And seeing that come to fruition over the last year 753 00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:13,119 has been I think to next point, it's felt like a decade, not 754 00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:16,480 just you know, we've gained a decades worth of friends and met a decade's 755 00:57:16,519 --> 00:57:22,800 worth of people all in the last year, and network and inspiration and collaboration, 756 00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:27,840 all of that and last year. It's mind blowing to think how much 757 00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:31,280 has happened, no doubt. It's interesting how people can interact with the artists 758 00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:36,280 more here too, where it is a local collective of artists, you have 759 00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:39,519 the opportunity to speak to the artists or get closer to them than you would 760 00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:43,960 in a large gallery situation where you might see their name, but you wouldn't 761 00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:45,719 even know what they look like. Yeah, Here, the artists can be 762 00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:52,599 more more in touch or they're more reachable. I'm curious too about the submission 763 00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:57,559 because you're talking about like the board, you've got to review all the submissions, 764 00:57:57,599 --> 00:58:02,599 and that is that a difficult process because I would imagine because obviously art, 765 00:58:02,639 --> 00:58:07,119 any kind of art, is subjective, and so I would imagine there's 766 00:58:07,119 --> 00:58:12,159 some disagreement right about, you know, like someone might like something and someone 767 00:58:12,199 --> 00:58:15,239 else will say, no, we can't. Yeah, exactly. I mean, 768 00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:17,960 you have three of us, try to do it at a time, 769 00:58:19,119 --> 00:58:22,559 so that you know there's a tiebreaker vote type of thing. Oh, okay, 770 00:58:22,719 --> 00:58:25,159 that's smart. You know, like if it was one person, it's 771 00:58:25,159 --> 00:58:28,880 going to be pretty biased. But if you have three people doing it, 772 00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:34,559 then it's like two people could agree and one guy's like maybe iffy about it, 773 00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:37,440 or like two people could kind of be iffy about it, and then 774 00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:40,000 you have the third person say, yeah, that's like why not bring that 775 00:58:40,079 --> 00:58:45,599 in and that type of thing. Like, so it is a collaborative effort, 776 00:58:45,719 --> 00:58:47,199 like with everything. So like judging a show, hanging a show, 777 00:58:47,239 --> 00:58:52,360 like Chloe said, we all show up and kind of take a wall and 778 00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:59,000 hang the show, and then we also have the openings like where you can 779 00:58:59,079 --> 00:59:01,480 meet the artist because most of them show up. So it's like you can 780 00:59:01,599 --> 00:59:05,639 just go to an opening and see something on the wall and the person standing 781 00:59:05,719 --> 00:59:09,039 right there to talk to. So yeah, yeah, very cool. Yeah, 782 00:59:09,119 --> 00:59:14,039 there's lots of checks and balances and how we make those selections, and 783 00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:16,920 I think one of the core elements that we keep in mind when we're making 784 00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:24,159 them is the mission of Mosaic, which is to help build and nurture and 785 00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:30,679 influence the growth of one's practice in a safe place. So when we're making 786 00:59:30,679 --> 00:59:36,159 these selections, we're keeping in mind that this is not just about what is 787 00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:44,320 the internationally technically good like museum artwork. This is about real art. This 788 00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:47,559 is about community art, This is about self expression, and this is about 789 00:59:47,559 --> 00:59:52,079 being supported in that. Yeah, yeah, excellent. And now, Derek, 790 00:59:52,119 --> 00:59:54,920 how did you get involved? Obviously, you know you've been You've been 791 00:59:54,920 --> 01:00:00,360 booking the music and you and I have known each other for a long time 792 01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:05,880 in the in the music industry. We used to do Jenny's heard this of 793 01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:09,119 course, but you know, back in the day, we used to book 794 01:00:09,119 --> 01:00:14,000 a lot of shows and you introduced me to well, you know, we 795 01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:17,000 were sort of half kidding at the at the show that Jenny and I went 796 01:00:17,039 --> 01:00:21,039 to that. You know, Acacia Strain. They owe all their success to 797 01:00:21,159 --> 01:00:27,119 us because we booked them on a show. I'm honestly surprised they're still the 798 01:00:27,159 --> 01:00:30,519 band, they are still around. Well, you know, they had a 799 01:00:30,519 --> 01:00:34,119 great start because we booked them, So I don't pave the way, that's 800 01:00:34,199 --> 01:00:37,239 right, They all all it all to us. But yeah, so how 801 01:00:37,239 --> 01:00:44,639 did you get involved in the collective? Once I moved back earlier last year 802 01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:51,440 and in the spring, I reached out to Liz. I was just looking 803 01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:57,760 for some sort of outlet because I had initially won to start the gallery collective 804 01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:02,079 of my own in the city here when I lived here, you know, 805 01:01:02,559 --> 01:01:10,519 ten plus years ago, and that never materialized. So I started. I 806 01:01:10,559 --> 01:01:19,159 started my online gallery of artists only, and you know, I've just hosted 807 01:01:19,199 --> 01:01:23,840 a bunch of artists throughout the country and international, but I still wanted a 808 01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:30,039 physical space because the idea was always to include a monthly showcase of performers. 809 01:01:30,079 --> 01:01:35,440 And I reached out to her to see if she was open to the idea, 810 01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:40,360 and she was, so I met with her, went over some logistics 811 01:01:40,519 --> 01:01:45,800 and we you know, that was in the fall that I met her initially, 812 01:01:46,199 --> 01:01:50,360 and we had the first show, as you mentioned, in December. 813 01:01:51,039 --> 01:01:55,679 So yeah, it's just gonna we're gonna try to keep doing them. Are 814 01:01:55,719 --> 01:02:02,599 you still doing your online gallery? Period? Not as regularly as it had 815 01:02:02,639 --> 01:02:09,199 been, but yeah, it used to be a more full web page. 816 01:02:09,559 --> 01:02:16,920 Now it's it's solely structured to Instagram. So that's that artists only Aoh oh 817 01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:22,920 okay, okay, what goes into that an online gallery? I mean, 818 01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:29,000 do people contact you and say I'd like to feature How does that work? 819 01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:34,840 I don't get contacted so much as I network with the artists, I'll reach 820 01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:39,559 out to someone i'd like to feature. Also, it's it's nonprofit, so 821 01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:50,000 I'll just also sometimes repost various artists work and give them the credit. Yeah. 822 01:02:50,079 --> 01:02:53,800 Yeah, what was your Instagram page? It's artists only and then the 823 01:02:53,840 --> 01:03:00,960 abbreviation AO at the end. And now for the music, are you booking 824 01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:06,239 all the music at the at Mosaic? Is that that's all you at the 825 01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:09,039 moment? Yeah, I mean I know it's relatively new still, but right. 826 01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:15,880 Yeah, So this is the the second one tonight. I already have 827 01:03:15,519 --> 01:03:21,199 the one set up for next month, will be on the seventeenth. It's 828 01:03:21,199 --> 01:03:28,239 going to be more of an electronic night with two solo electronic artists, another 829 01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:34,599 one from Portland, Maine, Gibbs Freelance, and I try to have a 830 01:03:34,639 --> 01:03:42,480 local support as an opener for draw And that's going to be Danny Kemp's any 831 01:03:42,519 --> 01:03:50,159 Camps. Yeah, he does kind of like he plays guitar and bass, 832 01:03:50,199 --> 01:03:55,079 but he also this is around with since how do you how do you figure 833 01:03:55,079 --> 01:03:58,719 out who would be a good fit? I mean, is there do you 834 01:03:59,639 --> 01:04:03,639 do the musicians that you're booking, do they have to kind of fit a 835 01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:08,599 do you have a certain criteria in mind in terms of who would you know, 836 01:04:08,639 --> 01:04:13,360 because it's not it's obviously at a place like Mosaic, it's you know, 837 01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:15,679 you want to have artists, musicians who are gonna fit the vibe. 838 01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:20,960 I mean, how do you Is that a big part of the process in 839 01:04:21,039 --> 01:04:27,559 terms of figuring out who to who to book there? Somewhat? Yeah, 840 01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:32,159 I mean I'll I'll try to have it, you know, be some sort 841 01:04:32,159 --> 01:04:40,920 of complimentary in a sense, but I'm all for diversity as well, so 842 01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:47,000 maybe in shows to come it'll be more of a an abstract bill. Yeh, 843 01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:53,880 yeah, I mean that, you know. When we were there that 844 01:04:54,079 --> 01:04:56,760 night, I mean that that seemed perfect, you know, that seemed like 845 01:04:56,920 --> 01:05:00,880 just the perfect fit for for that, you know, And it's such a 846 01:05:00,239 --> 01:05:03,840 it's such an amazing space. You're sitting in the middle of all this beautiful 847 01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:10,960 art and the space is so it's yeah, God, I'm looking for a 848 01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:14,960 word that's not coming to me, huh, intimate, intimate. That is 849 01:05:15,039 --> 01:05:17,960 exactly what I was looking for. You And the sound is just really great 850 01:05:18,039 --> 01:05:21,280 with the musicians. I'm telling you, it's totally worth going there to listen 851 01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:25,519 to the music. It's just such a great space. To be in. 852 01:05:25,679 --> 01:05:30,559 It's more personable. You know the artist is right there, not humpteen feet 853 01:05:30,599 --> 01:05:31,880 away from you or what have you. Yeah, yeah, no, I 854 01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:38,039 really am. I've already written it down February seventeenth, got that February seventeenth, 855 01:05:38,239 --> 01:05:40,719 after tonight will be the next music night, so I'll have that down. 856 01:05:41,119 --> 01:05:46,039 Love to actually keep in touch and bring musicians that you have, bring 857 01:05:46,079 --> 01:05:49,440 them to our listeners. If we haven't beat each to the punch we already 858 01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:56,639 had yeah yeah, yeah, I mean if they're available or before the show 859 01:05:56,760 --> 01:06:00,000 on some Saturday and we started to see a lot of oneful musicians. If 860 01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:04,599 you ever need anybody, please don't hesitate. I love recommendations that come in 861 01:06:04,719 --> 01:06:10,639 and go out. So thanks for that. Absolutely absolutely, I'm I really 862 01:06:10,679 --> 01:06:15,800 am excited about tonight's show too. Regals is new to me, never heard 863 01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:19,280 of them before the and I'm really interesting sound. I really enjoyed. We 864 01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:24,559 were listening last night because I was just playing. I always play something I 865 01:06:24,599 --> 01:06:28,760 have tonight, so I always have something in the room going on. Really 866 01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:33,480 great sound, really great. They started as a three piece and I first 867 01:06:33,519 --> 01:06:40,960 saw them perform over at two Shared Okay, and they've expanded to a fuller 868 01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:46,280 band. Ryan Egan, who leads the band, has been in former Manchester 869 01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:51,320 bands. Before Happy Just to See You were that band. It was Bad 870 01:06:51,320 --> 01:06:55,719 Fellows and he played drums with them, and it was also in a band 871 01:06:55,719 --> 01:07:01,079 called Pleasure Gap. Okay, he's been a man Us through a staple for 872 01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:08,079 ten plus years. This city has a lot of arts, a lot of 873 01:07:08,119 --> 01:07:12,719 amazing artists. I didn't realize how much until last year when we've really started 874 01:07:13,039 --> 01:07:16,559 concentrating hard on bringing in more musicians and more artists. This city is bursting 875 01:07:16,639 --> 01:07:21,880 with incredible talent. It's just amazing to me what we have in this city. 876 01:07:21,880 --> 01:07:26,119 You think New Hampshire kind of a small state. We can fit your 877 01:07:26,119 --> 01:07:30,920 whole state inside of New York as far as people go. But we really 878 01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:34,440 are very blessed with a lot of amazing talent and different genres, all kinds 879 01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:39,039 of genres. If you ever want to try out a new genre, a 880 01:07:39,039 --> 01:07:43,079 small venue like this is absolutely perfect to go listen to something you haven't seen 881 01:07:43,159 --> 01:07:46,800 before, like Abner two or the second Abner the Second. I never know 882 01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:51,440 which way to go either or I think, really he's amazing. He uses 883 01:07:51,480 --> 01:07:56,519 a viola and does this looping technique and the music he creates, and I 884 01:07:56,559 --> 01:08:00,719 love his voice. The songs he creates are absolutely awesome. It was funny 885 01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:03,360 because Matt's been playing him for a very long time before we ever had him 886 01:08:03,360 --> 01:08:06,599 on as a guest. We finally got him on a Gut as a guest, 887 01:08:06,639 --> 01:08:10,719 and I got the joy of sitting there going We've been playing you for 888 01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:15,840 years. Him being on this show was actually how I realized that Matt had 889 01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:17,840 started a radio show. Oh no kidding, I was. I was still 890 01:08:17,840 --> 01:08:23,479 in Austin, Texas at the time, and I saw Zach Abner post about 891 01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:26,880 it. Oh cool, yeah, cool, excellent. The small world comes 892 01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:30,000 around. That's good to hear. By the way, the studio line is 893 01:08:30,039 --> 01:08:31,600 open. If you have any questions or feedback or anything at all for our 894 01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:34,479 guests, you can give us a call six O three two five oh six 895 01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:39,359 oh seven six O three two five oh six oh seven. You can also 896 01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:43,119 text us at six one seven nine one seven four four seven six. I'm 897 01:08:43,159 --> 01:08:46,159 on social media at Matt Connorton. You can email me Matt at Matt Coonorton 898 01:08:46,159 --> 01:08:50,000 dot com. But we would love to hear your adulca tones at six oh 899 01:08:50,039 --> 01:08:56,760 three two five oh six o seven. So now, so what does the 900 01:08:57,039 --> 01:09:00,560 future hold for for Mosaic? I mean, is is there kind of a 901 01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:04,000 long term plan as far as continuing to expand what you're doing? Or we 902 01:09:04,079 --> 01:09:10,159 have some really exciting stuff that you know is maybe potentially hanging in our future, 903 01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:15,479 but some of the more kind of immediate moments that we'd really love to 904 01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:21,119 see the community show up and support. And is of course our music night 905 01:09:21,159 --> 01:09:25,680 tonight, and so doors will open at seven pm. Okay, it is 906 01:09:25,720 --> 01:09:31,399 a twenty one plus show, but we will be having refreshments by donation and 907 01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:38,000 live music and we expect the show will run through about ten pm. Okay, 908 01:09:38,039 --> 01:09:42,079 this evening cool, So feel free to stat by between seven and ten 909 01:09:42,159 --> 01:09:45,119 and come check us out and see what the gallery has to offer. Jenny 910 01:09:45,119 --> 01:09:47,680 and I'll be there. So you come say hello to us, say hello 911 01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:50,680 to Are you an artist? Do you want to be young? Hi? 912 01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:58,079 Absolutely? Now, in the course of the collective, you guys operate mostly 913 01:09:58,079 --> 01:10:01,800 on donation, right, correct, So we are a nonprofit, so we 914 01:10:02,319 --> 01:10:10,600 really do rely on support from our community by donation and also by showing up 915 01:10:10,600 --> 01:10:15,680 and being in the shows. Right. Submitting it feels like really cheap isn't 916 01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:18,199 it like ten dollars? I think ten to fifteen dollars. Yeah, it's 917 01:10:18,319 --> 01:10:23,920 very accessible. That's our aim and our goal is to keep it that way. 918 01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:29,680 You take a chance without losing your grocery bill, which I think that's 919 01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:32,960 it makes it all the more accessible to everybody. Right, you don't have 920 01:10:33,039 --> 01:10:35,560 to be somebody with a whole lot of money to try and buy your way 921 01:10:35,560 --> 01:10:41,600 in through a gallery. Your donation is helping to fund this beautiful space for 922 01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:45,880 local artists, which, as people know, Matt and I are huge on 923 01:10:45,039 --> 01:10:49,960 supporting all local artists and you can't go wrong when you support your community anyway. 924 01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:55,680 Yeah, we actually have a sticker to support local art which is three 925 01:10:55,720 --> 01:11:00,079 dollars which helps artists with submission fees. And we also have gift cards done 926 01:11:00,119 --> 01:11:04,880 by Jackie Hanson which you can kind of buy over time if you want to 927 01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:10,119 save up for yourself or give it to someone else to buy a piece at 928 01:11:10,119 --> 01:11:14,399 the gallery, or you can use it towards your submission fees for open calls. 929 01:11:14,439 --> 01:11:17,640 So, okay, the next open call that we have is all heart 930 01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:24,720 statuses for February show. So it can neither be you know about your relationship 931 01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:29,640 or love for whoever, or it could be about how love sucks and you 932 01:11:29,680 --> 01:11:33,119 can just do something for that. So any heart status. Okay, So 933 01:11:33,199 --> 01:11:36,479 it doesn't even necessarily have to be love, you know, it could be 934 01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:41,800 any emotion that you feel you need to express. Oh very good, very 935 01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:45,880 good. Oh I like that. Yeah. So the submission, the submission 936 01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:50,000 date is for that. All submissions are due due by January twenty six at 937 01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:54,640 eleven fifty nine pm, So mark that on your calendars. Okay. So 938 01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:56,840 well, if people go to submit, they take a picture of their work, 939 01:11:56,920 --> 01:12:00,640 send it to you with the fee, and then everybody those looks at 940 01:12:00,680 --> 01:12:05,399 all the different pieces. And now do people come in with huge paintings teeny 941 01:12:05,439 --> 01:12:10,840 tiny paintings? Are there size restrictions like or do you like just send a 942 01:12:10,840 --> 01:12:15,239 picture and go, hey, this is what it is. So typically we 943 01:12:15,319 --> 01:12:18,239 don't do We don't impose many restrictions because we want to see what you have. 944 01:12:18,479 --> 01:12:24,119 You know, we do have space limitations obviously that it's not a huge 945 01:12:24,199 --> 01:12:29,199 room, but we accept three D artwork, two D artwork, digital art 946 01:12:29,279 --> 01:12:34,159 or any kind and the dimensions are completely ope, I mean only the only 947 01:12:34,239 --> 01:12:36,720 limitation we have is can we get it in the room, right, So 948 01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:46,079 it really is open ended and we encourage everybody to kind of not be constricted 949 01:12:46,199 --> 01:12:50,600 in what they're bringing to the table. That's awesome. Yeah, Oh, 950 01:12:50,600 --> 01:12:54,239 I'm glad I asked that question. Yeah, that's a great question. We 951 01:12:54,319 --> 01:12:57,880 have a couple So Nick mentioned that we have a gift card done by a 952 01:12:57,880 --> 01:13:01,399 local artist, Jackie Hansen, who we done some incredible workshops with, and 953 01:13:01,439 --> 01:13:05,399 she actually has a workshop coming up in the next couple of weeks here and 954 01:13:05,760 --> 01:13:12,319 it's actually January twenty fifth. It's going to be an eraser workshop. So 955 01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:15,840 the gift card that we have is kind of done in a similar style where 956 01:13:15,880 --> 01:13:23,319 she has carved into material to create a stamp and then you know, repeat 957 01:13:23,359 --> 01:13:27,239 that artwork, you know, over and over again as many times as she 958 01:13:27,319 --> 01:13:30,760 wants. Interesting. So that's how our gift cards are made, and so 959 01:13:31,119 --> 01:13:36,920 this eraser workshop will be very similar to that in carving into an eraser material, 960 01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:42,479 which is very easy to get accessible. Anybody can find an eraser and 961 01:13:42,560 --> 01:13:45,880 then create a stamp out of it. So that will be a really exciting 962 01:13:45,880 --> 01:13:50,199 workshop coming up, and those who are interested in signing up for that, 963 01:13:50,239 --> 01:13:55,359 I encourage checking out our website and getting a slot ahead of time. Now, 964 01:13:55,359 --> 01:13:59,560 what is the cost on that particular workshop Off the top of my head, 965 01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:03,119 I actually not one hundred percent sure, but I you know, I'm 966 01:14:03,119 --> 01:14:08,279 not even going to give you an estimated figure because I can't remember off the 967 01:14:08,279 --> 01:14:10,800 top of my head. But it is posted on our website. Okay, 968 01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:13,520 okay, oh, I've got it right here. Actually, the erase or 969 01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:17,000 print marketing workshop that is going to be held on January twenty fifth, arrive 970 01:14:17,079 --> 01:14:21,680 at five forty five please, and their address again is sixty six Handover Streets 971 01:14:21,720 --> 01:14:27,279 to a suite two oh one. The thirty five dollars registration fee which covers 972 01:14:27,319 --> 01:14:30,159 all the supplies that you need to make your own to be able to take 973 01:14:30,159 --> 01:14:34,560 that home. Very cool. So that would be your very exciting way to 974 01:14:35,039 --> 01:14:39,720 not only support the gallery but also have something that you get to take home 975 01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:43,319 with you today. Yeah. Yeah, I think it's great that you're doing 976 01:14:43,359 --> 01:14:46,159 something that's not a painting right, right, like different? Yeah no that, 977 01:14:46,279 --> 01:14:49,399 I mean, obviously I paint, but everywhere's always a paint bar. 978 01:14:49,439 --> 01:14:53,520 I want to do something fun, right, it's not something different, something 979 01:14:53,560 --> 01:14:56,560 that you can play with. Yeah, I like that. I like that. 980 01:14:56,720 --> 01:15:00,560 And maybe four to what else from absolutely, Oh, I like to 981 01:15:00,640 --> 01:15:05,760 support local artist sticker. That's really I love stickers. In case you didn't 982 01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:10,039 notice, my laptop is completely covered. Well, you must need one. 983 01:15:10,119 --> 01:15:13,800 I must need one. A very fun fact is the artist who created that 984 01:15:13,920 --> 01:15:17,800 sticker is actually sitting right next to me in this room. There you go. 985 01:15:19,079 --> 01:15:24,279 Hey, no, seriously, I really like this. Yeah. Liz 986 01:15:24,279 --> 01:15:29,600 ree Stone asked if we wanted to do a sticker, and I just kind 987 01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:32,560 of came up with something and we went back and forth about it, and 988 01:15:32,600 --> 01:15:40,119 we actually used that same design for the we were did that Christmas bread recently 989 01:15:41,880 --> 01:15:44,479 and we had a banner on the side that had the same thing. So 990 01:15:44,520 --> 01:15:48,960 that was pretty cool too. Excellent, excellent. Hey, by the way, 991 01:15:49,079 --> 01:15:55,399 this is a little bit, uh not off topic, but not specifically 992 01:15:55,399 --> 01:15:59,119 about the gallery, but I'm just curious do any of you have any thoughts 993 01:15:59,159 --> 01:16:01,520 on because Jenny and I attended that that event there was at the gallery about 994 01:16:01,560 --> 01:16:05,000 AI and art. Do any of you just have any kind of general thoughts 995 01:16:05,039 --> 01:16:09,159 about that or it's kind of a big, big subject, but it's a 996 01:16:09,199 --> 01:16:12,279 broad question, but I'm just curious if any of you have any thoughts on 997 01:16:12,359 --> 01:16:18,720 the matter. Generally, I'm not for AI, but I can understand its 998 01:16:18,800 --> 01:16:25,039 use kind of like I don't know if you're editing something or something like that, 999 01:16:25,960 --> 01:16:30,439 but if you're going from like zero to an image, I don't necessarily 1000 01:16:30,479 --> 01:16:33,640 love that use of it. By that, you mean like if you give 1001 01:16:33,640 --> 01:16:38,880 it a prompt and create this and create this. Because I don't know. 1002 01:16:38,920 --> 01:16:42,640 I I hand draw and I use digital. I think digital is like the 1003 01:16:43,800 --> 01:16:47,760 closest they'll get to it. Yea, But no, I understand its uses 1004 01:16:47,840 --> 01:16:54,399 though, so generally I'm not for it, but I can see how people 1005 01:16:54,479 --> 01:16:59,520 can use it to enhance whatever they're doing the right right or edit their writing. 1006 01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:02,039 So say, see, we were talking about that before you guys came 1007 01:17:02,039 --> 01:17:06,600 into the show because I have a book started and I was coming in hiring. 1008 01:17:06,840 --> 01:17:13,479 Should I use AI to edit the book or not? And now I've 1009 01:17:13,479 --> 01:17:16,640 come to the conclusion that I'm not going to. Yeah, but for I 1010 01:17:16,680 --> 01:17:20,279 was toying with the idea. I mean, did he talk about of it. 1011 01:17:20,359 --> 01:17:24,159 He totally talked me out of it. But I have a unique style 1012 01:17:24,199 --> 01:17:27,319 of writing anyway, I don't know that you could fit that into me. 1013 01:17:28,920 --> 01:17:31,840 I have a little bit of a different perspective on AI. Oh cool, 1014 01:17:33,319 --> 01:17:39,920 so I'm classically trained as a photographer, and I think one of the things 1015 01:17:39,960 --> 01:17:45,039 when AI started coming onto the scene that I'm like just immediately started thinking, 1016 01:17:45,239 --> 01:17:48,439 was, Man, this this must must be how painters felt when photography hit 1017 01:17:48,439 --> 01:17:56,520 the scene, you know, you know, and just to see the medium 1018 01:17:56,640 --> 01:18:01,000 ghosts, you know, you have to at least with photography, you had 1019 01:18:01,039 --> 01:18:05,920 to actually go to the place and bring the equipment and put that amount of 1020 01:18:05,960 --> 01:18:10,640 effort in. Now you can just go type in, make me a picture 1021 01:18:10,760 --> 01:18:15,479 of Santorini with a wedding happening, and there it is. You know, 1022 01:18:15,520 --> 01:18:19,920 you don't have to be there, so I think, and and similarly to 1023 01:18:20,119 --> 01:18:26,520 a painter who used to have to put or still does put hours of time 1024 01:18:26,640 --> 01:18:30,199 into accurately translating what they're seeing, and then photography hit the scene and you 1025 01:18:30,239 --> 01:18:33,439 just press a button and go about your marry day. Right, I can 1026 01:18:33,520 --> 01:18:38,319 only draw like equations to how that must feel there. Yeah, it never 1027 01:18:38,359 --> 01:18:41,359 occurred to me. Yeah, but that's yeah, it's an interesting insight. 1028 01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:45,359 It seems like it might be some kind of natural progression in you know, 1029 01:18:45,560 --> 01:18:50,159 art and technology that we're experiencing. But it's also I am skeptical too. 1030 01:18:50,680 --> 01:18:56,439 You know there there. I think AI can be misused, and it is 1031 01:18:56,520 --> 01:19:01,920 also a tool that is dictated by humans still, so it's depending upon other 1032 01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:08,279 people's work to draw itself into work. It's pulling from everything else that other 1033 01:19:08,319 --> 01:19:11,920 people have already done, right, which in a lot of way, we're 1034 01:19:12,199 --> 01:19:16,640 doing that right right. So so the only difference is that it's an artificial 1035 01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:24,439 intelligence that's drawing inspiration from the world around it rather than an organic intelligence, 1036 01:19:24,760 --> 01:19:31,720 so which I think see is the reason to be skeletical. But it is 1037 01:19:31,760 --> 01:19:39,560 interesting. Yeah, what do you think, Derek, I think that I'm 1038 01:19:40,159 --> 01:19:45,640 I'm anti AI in the respect of, you know, it potentially taking jobs 1039 01:19:45,760 --> 01:19:57,039 from people, but I believe that there may be some sort of merit to 1040 01:19:57,119 --> 01:20:03,439 it in like the medical field. Yeah, it's they're they're working out ways 1041 01:20:03,520 --> 01:20:11,800 to allow even like paralyzed people to walk again. Watch some of those videos. 1042 01:20:12,720 --> 01:20:17,720 There's like sensory mechanisms that they have been implanted in people that they're able 1043 01:20:17,800 --> 01:20:27,520 to control remotely and you know, give those sort of you know, sensory 1044 01:20:28,159 --> 01:20:31,960 function that the body is supposed to and uh, you know, it's it's 1045 01:20:33,319 --> 01:20:39,479 it's still at the beginning stages and the people are are still slow to to 1046 01:20:39,520 --> 01:20:44,680 get going. But it's yeah, there's it's it's some sort of you know, 1047 01:20:44,840 --> 01:20:48,800 progression in that field. Yeah. Well, it's funny you mentioned that 1048 01:20:48,840 --> 01:20:53,520 too because when we had when we had Conrad War from the band I don't 1049 01:20:53,560 --> 01:20:57,239 know if you know the band Be's Deluxe, really good Boston band, and 1050 01:20:57,239 --> 01:20:59,359 and we were talking about that with him, you remember this, and he 1051 01:20:59,439 --> 01:21:02,840 was talking about how, for example, if you're a medical professional and you're 1052 01:21:02,920 --> 01:21:06,159 you're trying to find a treatment plan for someone with an illness, and you 1053 01:21:06,199 --> 01:21:09,239 can, you know, say to AI, you know, give me, 1054 01:21:09,359 --> 01:21:14,479 give me three treatment plans for this person and describe the person and and uh, 1055 01:21:14,600 --> 01:21:16,600 you know, it can save a lot of time and potentially be very 1056 01:21:16,680 --> 01:21:26,079 useful in a situation like that. So as in medicine is just exponentially going, 1057 01:21:26,119 --> 01:21:30,680 I agree with you. In a lot of different industries, AI does 1058 01:21:30,760 --> 01:21:35,439 and will continue to have a great place. But in art that's where you 1059 01:21:35,600 --> 01:21:39,560 and it's all art, whether it's right, whether it's music, whether it's 1060 01:21:39,560 --> 01:21:43,840 print, whether it's writing. It adds a lot of guesswork to is this 1061 01:21:43,960 --> 01:21:49,079 authentic or not. So I'll just share briefly my my one experience trying to 1062 01:21:49,119 --> 01:21:57,560 create visual art using uh Dolly three. I don't know if any of you 1063 01:21:57,600 --> 01:22:01,439 have used that at all, but I had to. We did a segment 1064 01:22:01,479 --> 01:22:05,439 on the show talking about the Darryl Hall versus John Oates lawsuit a couple of 1065 01:22:05,439 --> 01:22:10,720 months ago, and so I took that segment and I put it on YouTube, 1066 01:22:10,760 --> 01:22:15,800 and I needed a thumbnail and uh, so I tried using Dolly three 1067 01:22:15,840 --> 01:22:20,279 to create. What I wanted was to see because I'd seen I'd seen people 1068 01:22:20,479 --> 01:22:25,039 come up with some pretty good stuff using this, So I wanted an image 1069 01:22:25,159 --> 01:22:29,520 of Daryl Hall and John Oates in a boxing ring. And what I learned 1070 01:22:29,520 --> 01:22:33,600 pretty quickly is it's very resistant too. And we talked about this too at 1071 01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:36,640 the event that we went to at a Yeah, this came up at the 1072 01:22:36,720 --> 01:22:40,720 event. I wish I could remember that. Who's the gentleman's name, by 1073 01:22:40,720 --> 01:22:43,760 the way, do you know offhand? Carl? Carl? I cannot. 1074 01:22:43,800 --> 01:22:45,119 I have a mental block with his name. He was very impressive. I 1075 01:22:45,159 --> 01:22:49,680 liked his presentation. So we were talking about about this and I remember telling 1076 01:22:49,760 --> 01:22:55,079 him I couldn't get it to do that exactly, and he said, it 1077 01:22:55,199 --> 01:22:59,800 seems to be the program seems to be very resistant to the idea just broadly 1078 01:23:00,079 --> 01:23:03,960 of putting celebrities in violent situations. So it wouldn't let me do that. 1079 01:23:04,359 --> 01:23:08,359 So the best I was able to get out of it when I tried to 1080 01:23:08,399 --> 01:23:11,279 make that, and I did, I did get it to do. Something 1081 01:23:11,279 --> 01:23:15,760 that I used for a thumbnail on the YouTube video was Darryl holland John Oates 1082 01:23:15,840 --> 01:23:21,800 at a playing chess, but with angry expressions on their faces. It doesn't 1083 01:23:21,880 --> 01:23:27,319 quite look like Darryl holland John Oates, but it looks close enough. The 1084 01:23:27,800 --> 01:23:30,840 but they both look angry and it's a funny fixture. But that's the only 1085 01:23:30,880 --> 01:23:36,960 thing I've I've used it for so far. But that was kind of fun. 1086 01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:44,359 Well, listen, we will, uh, we'll begin to before we 1087 01:23:44,439 --> 01:23:46,359 run out of time. I want to make sure, well, actually, 1088 01:23:46,399 --> 01:23:50,880 is there anything that we didn't mention, because I know you had a bunch 1089 01:23:50,880 --> 01:23:54,359 of things you wanted to mention. I don't want to leave anything out. 1090 01:23:54,680 --> 01:23:58,520 I think we got through most of them. The only one that I and 1091 01:23:58,600 --> 01:24:01,319 it occurs to me since we're talking talking about Carl's talk, we will be 1092 01:24:01,399 --> 01:24:06,520 having another artist talk at the end of January. Here. On January twenty 1093 01:24:06,560 --> 01:24:14,600 six, local photographer Gary Sampson, who's actually he's the photographer I invited to 1094 01:24:14,680 --> 01:24:18,920 the This is Us plus Some show. He's been my longtime mentor and professor 1095 01:24:19,479 --> 01:24:27,920 as a photographer, and he has a really extensive history with Manchester and supporting 1096 01:24:28,560 --> 01:24:34,239 historical and cultural preservation in Manchester alongside being also a very prolific artist in his 1097 01:24:34,279 --> 01:24:39,840 own respect. Oh cool, And he'll be doing an artist talk on the 1098 01:24:39,880 --> 01:24:45,520 twenty sixth January twenty six starting at five forty five pm. So I know 1099 01:24:45,640 --> 01:24:48,319 many many of the listeners out there may actually know of Gary and might be 1100 01:24:48,359 --> 01:24:54,760 interested to see him talk and hear about his work. So please feel free 1101 01:24:54,760 --> 01:24:58,600 to register online for that talk as well. We'd love to see the community 1102 01:24:58,600 --> 01:25:02,640 show up. Excellent, excellent. Where should people go online to keep up 1103 01:25:02,680 --> 01:25:06,800 with everything that is going on at Mosaic Art Collective. I think we are 1104 01:25:08,039 --> 01:25:15,479 most active on Instagram Mosaic Art Collective very simple on Instagram. We are also 1105 01:25:15,520 --> 01:25:21,439 on Facebook and if you go to Mosaic Arcollective dot com, our gallery website 1106 01:25:23,119 --> 01:25:27,399 is also updated regularly along with all of our social media pages. Okay, 1107 01:25:27,439 --> 01:25:30,640 and you can actually see like all the archive shows from the past year or 1108 01:25:30,640 --> 01:25:33,000 two so if you're curious what we've been doing, you can go down and 1109 01:25:33,439 --> 01:25:36,920 see all the art that was in each show. Okay, okay, excellent, 1110 01:25:38,039 --> 01:25:41,840 excellent, And what will all three of you be there tonight? Absolutely 1111 01:25:41,920 --> 01:25:44,560 absolutely, very good. Well, we look forward to that. We look 1112 01:25:44,600 --> 01:25:45,680 forward to seeing you there. Jenny and I will be there and we encourage 1113 01:25:45,680 --> 01:25:50,920 people to participate. Yes and yeah, speaking of archives, as you are 1114 01:25:50,960 --> 01:25:54,479 aware, I had told you I had a radio show of my own. 1115 01:25:54,840 --> 01:26:01,479 Oh yeah, I have, so since being there, I quote unquote revived 1116 01:26:01,560 --> 01:26:06,680 the show as a home recording good back in October. So I have a 1117 01:26:06,720 --> 01:26:13,079 handful of episodes up, most currently one from the beginning of the month, 1118 01:26:13,800 --> 01:26:19,319 and I'm gonna have it go for maybe a few more installments and until I 1119 01:26:19,479 --> 01:26:27,119 reached episode fifty, So those can be listened to on It's a it's a 1120 01:26:27,359 --> 01:26:32,239 music variety show, okay, and it's on mixcloud dot com, Forward Slash 1121 01:26:32,399 --> 01:26:39,840 Eclectic Arrangements. I like the name. Yeah, thanks, And we only 1122 01:26:39,960 --> 01:26:44,720 left out for the show tonight that the admission is a sliding scale five to 1123 01:26:44,760 --> 01:26:47,680 ten dollars. Oh okay. I bought our tickets online. Yeah, and 1124 01:26:47,720 --> 01:26:50,479 that was an option as well. On event right, yeah, yeah, 1125 01:26:50,560 --> 01:26:54,720 excellent, excellent. Well, I'm I'm glad you're all going to be there 1126 01:26:55,000 --> 01:26:59,600 tonight. That is wonderful. Of course, Abner the Second and Regals will 1127 01:26:59,600 --> 01:27:02,720 be playing Who's Who's going on? What's the order is? It's Abner first 1128 01:27:03,279 --> 01:27:10,760 and then uh and Abner will be joined by a drummer tonight. Okay, 1129 01:27:11,079 --> 01:27:16,520 okay, very interesting, very good, very good. Yeah, oh that's 1130 01:27:16,600 --> 01:27:25,000 right, our friend EZG hasn't called. Well, thank you all three of 1131 01:27:25,000 --> 01:27:27,520 you for coming in. Nick and Chloe, wonderful to meet you, and 1132 01:27:27,560 --> 01:27:29,720 Derek of course, always nice to see you, my friend. Thanks, 1133 01:27:29,720 --> 01:27:32,000 Matt. Absolutely look forward to uh, look forward to seeing you tonight. 1134 01:27:32,039 --> 01:27:36,520 And yeah, definitely I would encourage people to come down Mosaic Art Collective tonight. 1135 01:27:36,600 --> 01:27:40,359 And in fact, we're going to close out the segment with another song 1136 01:27:40,399 --> 01:27:45,359 from Abner the Second and his album The Audrey at Burns. This is called 1137 01:27:45,399 --> 01:27:47,760 Dover, and then Jenny and I will be back. There is more a 1138 01:27:47,800 --> 01:27:50,159 show to come, so uh, don't go anywhere