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I don't want to hear any more
small talk off that short period trick a

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long walk. My style ain't free
because it ain't off top I match.

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You'll throw coke Kiti cock drop.
I don't want to hear it any more.

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Small talk off that short period trick
along walk. My style a free

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because it ain't off top I match. You'll throw coke kitt cock drop this

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cush. Let me do much in
your brain. Turn the mush for flot

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on your toush. You couldn't handled
a product. I feel shot because I'm

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just used to it. I just
do it like Nike swush, none of

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that Vengi bush because I'm top shelf. I ain't got wealth, but I'm

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on my grind like park Rails.
I'd sell the shoes right off my two

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feet, then add one that's a
yard sale. Got dumb bars that'd be

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started at den hard Burn YEO,
take your pictures elsewhere you want to be

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TMZ. I want to be VIP
with Panderin. I'm not answering because I

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don't want to hear any more small
talk off that short period trick along walk.

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My style ain't free because it ain't
off top I match. You'll throw

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go kiti cock drop. I don't
want to hear any more. Small talk

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off that short period, trick along
walk my style a free because it ain't

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off top. On Matt, you'll
throat go kitt coock drop onto that bark

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and no bite. That's all right. Not everyone could be the big dog

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can take a walk kick Rocks.
Can't kick me out because I picked locks.

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The hearing me knocking, I'll never
be stopping icky this shit pupping like

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lip glass can be pissed off and
the host walk went the red dots,

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something like chickip hok. Give me
y'all what you gotta like it? Rushing

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me y'all feeling like Tony Hawk never
stopped that better not running up marathon and

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you are tart? Is this my
world? You a turists? Put the

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bullet you get in the hornes,
I'm a taurrist. I don't want to

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hear it any more. Small talk
off that short period took a long walk

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my style a free because it ain't
off top. I'm that your throat kick

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off drop. I don't want to
hear it any more. Small talk off

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that short period took along walk My
style a free because it ain't off top,

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I'm not your throat kick drops,
dear mic is mutedn't hello again everyone.

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Welcome to another edition of the Titans
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Hey? Everyone, I'm back and in

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high quality demand. Unfortunately the Titans
aren't this week. But before we get

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started with all the bad news of
the state of the team, we'll start

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Help this out. But without further
ado, we'll get into the bad news

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of it all. So I think
first and foremost, we've got to address

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there's no longer any playoff hopes for
the team. Which this is the first

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time ever that Rabel will be the
head coach and we don't have playoff hopes.

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So it's over one hundred games that
he's coached for us, and we've

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either been in the playoffs or had
hopes of getting to the playoffs, and

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everyone until this Sunday, So you
think you think anything changes as far as

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his game planning, if he tries
anything different or if it's just business as

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usual get us to the off season. Personally, I think it'll be business

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as usual. I don't think he'll
admit to tanking. I would like to

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think that he has the ethics to
not do that, but I don't.

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For I don't foresee him being the
coach of this team after this season.

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You don't think so. Well.
When you and I has spoke a couple

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of weeks ago, you said that
if the Titans got at least six wins

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that you thought that that would guarantee
him that I don't think we get to

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six wins with how we played last
Sunday, I don't think we get to

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six wins. Yeah, And I
know a lot of fans are really started

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calling for his head now on Twitter
and on social media and they have been

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on an all all season. See. I don't think that his seats as

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cold like it has been in the
past, but I don't think there's a

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fire under there yet. I think
that they'll still let him and Ran try

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to rebuild this team with one hundred
million dollars in cap space, and and

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I think next year is the the
hot seat for him. I think we've

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got to win at least ten games
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his seat's going to start getting warm. Well. I part of the reason

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that I kind of want him to
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And there's a couple of reasons I
should preface why I think that we need

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to move on from him. Number
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That secondary has struggled for how many
years? Three years we've not been

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able to what what do you say? Every since DMPs lived as our defensive

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coordinator, that secondary struggled. Yeah, so there's that we'll have a quarterback

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will be going into this into a
second season the last year, who we

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are all presuming will be the quarterback
for the next couple of years. Rabel

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has really struggled to develop any sort
of offensive players since he's been on the

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team, and with with the young
quarterbacks that are in this division, we're

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gonna need. We're gonna need that
offensive firepower. Definitely need the the defensive

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part, but that offensive firepower we
need. So I I I don't.

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I don't think we get six wins, and I I think with with Amy

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firing j R. Last December,
I think that she's ready for some playoff

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wins. And I think I think
he'll be gone, And so that kind

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of foreshadows my next question. I
was want to ask how much confidence do

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you have in the offensive and defensive
coordinators and do you think that they make

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it to twenty twenty four. But
if Rabel's gone, his coaching staff's going

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with him, I would assume defensive
the defensive coordinator I don't think is as

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bad. He can only do as
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with the players that he has.
With Caleb Farley coming back and practicing,

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which he's been, he's contributed little
to nothing offensively. I mean some of

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the play calls this past weekend,
we're questionable. Obviously we have a Brookie

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and he's gonna make mistakes. He
did miss a wide open Traylon Burkes that

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could have gotten us a first down
and some additional yardage. But we can't

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always rely on that defense, and
we very much relied on that defense this

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past weekend. I was at the
very least that offensive courtney means to go.

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Yeah, I agree, Shane Bowen. I feel like he's a good

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defensive coordinator. He's just never given
us any production from the secondary. But

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we've also never given him a secondary
to produce with. We've like we've asked

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him to go with Farley and Fulton, and we've just never put anyone solid

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back there. For wearing the jack
Rabbit last year, which was way past

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his prime mm hm. And even
with the secondary we give him, he

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holds teams to nineteen points, twenty
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that's been his average hit the whole
time he's been here. So if we

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if our offense could score twenty one
points, we'd be almost unbeatable. And

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we can past thirteen. Yeah,
I agreed. I mean we how many

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we went two weeks in a row
of going into overtime, and I mean

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that that the the game against the
Texans, even the game against the Colts.

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Those are both those Both of those
games should have been w's in my

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opinion, had we had an above
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offensive line, those are two right
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us a higher probability to beat the
Colts and a much higher probability to beat

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the Texans, and right there,
that gives us two wins. So we

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would be what seven and seven and
seven? Yes, would be a game

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out of the division right now?
Yes, So if Rabel Whisco, who

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who do you want them to bring
in for twenty twenty four? I funny,

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that's who asked. Thought. I've
been doing some research. I would

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really, really really like the offensive
coordinator from Miami. He's been he's been

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doing some wonders there. Yeah,
you can't argue with you know someone that.

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I mean, I know every time
the off season's rolling around, the

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first name on Totten s vans Cones
is Eric the enemy every year, so

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they've been wanting him for three or
four years now. But someone else I

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would give a look to is the
Eagles offensive coordinator. I mean, we've

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given them so many gifts in the
trade game, they owe us one back

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here. Yeah, I mean the
well, I would personally like uh Shane

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Siken, who's currently the head coach
for the for the Colts, I don't

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think the Eagles offensive coordinator gets a
job. This is I think he's in

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his first year. I don't think
he would get a job. Last question,

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Yeah, let's go on to the
to the game that was Where do

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you think it all fell apart?
Because it started all hot. We went

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right down the field eighty four yards, turned around with the pick six,

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and it is like just a slow, slow falling apart after that, just

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slowly give them the game back to
him. Well, I think what Demiko

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Rians did and I think I think
dimik Orians should win Head Coach of the

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Year number one. Yeah, you
have to give credit where credit is due.

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That man has turned around that franchise
and he's taken a franchise that's had

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a top five pick the past couple
of years and really made them a contender.

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So go him. I really really
hope he gets the Head Coach of

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the Year gig job, I mean
award. I think what he did specifically

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was I think he just I think
they played more aggressively on the defensive line

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and that is what won them the
game. I mean you have Derrick Henry

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that had how many he had less
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mean the amount of sacks that we
gave up. I mean, they just

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really relied heavily on being aggressive on
that defensive line. And once they started

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playing more aggressively on the defensive line, that's when they started to become more

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competitive in that game. And that
just all boils down to the fact that

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our offensive line is not good.
I would say, if it's not the

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worst ranked, it is in my
opinion, it is the worst offensive line

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in the entire National Football League.
In my opinion, all of the people

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that are currently on the offensive line, that are currently starters, they should

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all be fired, except for Peter
Skeronski. They should all be let go

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and they should not come back.
Yeah, if I was redoing the offensive

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line, I would keep Scronsky and
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Run Skill. He's allowed I think
one sack and has two penalties on the

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year, so he's had a solid
year. But I mean Brewer at center,

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he's thirty five forty pounds undersize getting
pushed backwards, and I don't think

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anyone's going to argue that none of
the tackles we've started this year depart.

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I think you might be able to
keep MPF next year, but not as

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a starters, like he's a depth
player at this Yeah. I agreed,

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and we talked about it at the
into the first quarter that Burks had two

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catches for over fifty yards and that
they need to keep going to him until

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the Texans take him away. He
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They he got one more target in
the entire game. It was the

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middle of the fourth quarter, and
in between that the end of the first

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quarter and his next target, Hopkins
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one interception. Why they got stubborn
and decided We're going to throw it into

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double coverage to Hopkins and ignore Burks
for the rest of the game. I

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feel like that really gave the game
away, because you you have Henry running

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into a brick wall and Levis thrown
into double coverage all game after that.

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So I fear your point. I
think part of that is how many games

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has has has Traylon Burks played this
season with Will Levis? Not many?

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How many games has Traylon Burke started
with Will Levis and finished not many and

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so the chemistry between Burkes and Levis
is not there. But if Traylan Burks

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is playing, which he had a
good first quarter, I don't think anyone

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can deny that. In my opinion, you keep throwing the ball to people

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who are playing well. If I
agree with you. If Traylon Burks Is

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got two catches for over fifty yards
in the first quarter, why would we

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not keep throwing the ball to him. I think part of it is is

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Will Levis has that chemistry with d
Hop and that's his go to that's his

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fallback plan. I think if he
gets a little bit flustered, which he

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did against the Texans, you know, he wanted to throw the ball to

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d Hop because de Hop is a
is a weapon and is really good about,

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you know, fighting for that extra
yards things like that. But I

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think that that's just going to come
with time. Number one building that chemistry.

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Number two and number three get a
new offensive coordinator. Yeah, yeah,

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Unfortunately, I don't if Brabel stays, I think Kelly stays as well,

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because that's his personal friend, and
I don't think he's going to fire

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him after one season. It's going
to take I think it's going to take

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Brabel getting fired, to get Tim
Kelly fired really because they're too closer friends

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personally. Yeah, you touched on
Henry's production. He ended up with sixteen

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carries for nine yards and four catches
for one yard, so twenty touches for

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ten yards, which set the NFL
record for the least yards game on twenty

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plus touches in a game. So, do you think this is going to

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be the end of the Henri era
or the Titans or do you think he

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comes back next year? As a
fan, I want him to come back

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undeniably. I mean, he's he's
the franchise leader in touchdowns. If he's

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not the franchise leader in rusting guards, I think he's relatively close to it.

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Yeah, So as a fan,
I definitely want him back. As

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a realist, I think he has
at least one more year. I think

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that d Hop is going to try
to get him to come back. I

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think I think the offensive players are
there too, and some of the coaches

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are there. They're going to really
try to get him to come back.

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I think at the very least I
think that we franchise tag him, but

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also in order to get Taija Spears
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Henry there to kind of help him
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under DeMarco Murray to develop to help
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at. I don't think it's the
end of the era. We have so

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much money in cap space. I
think we would be dumb to let Derek

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Kinry walk in free agency and not
try to give us the best chance that

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we have, because bringing Derek Henry
back just gives Will Levi us, you

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know, another option of to give
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But if I were in Derrick Henry's
shoes, I would tell Ran, I'm

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not coming back until I know for
I'm not agreeing to come back until I

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know for a fact that I have
an offensive line that's going to help me

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run the ball. Yeah. From
Henry's perspective, I agree, Like I

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wouldn't want to if he knows it's
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two years live if he wants to
come back again, like you want to

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be protected in those years and have
a chance to produce. And I thought

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that he would be back because he
is second in franchise history and rushing behind

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Eddie George and so I thought he
would come back and get that record.

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He's only going to need six hundred
and fifty or so yards next year to

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get the record. Until the postgame
press conference on Sunday, when he was

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basically saying his goodbyes, he was
talking about how bitter it is of an

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end that he didn't foresee it ending
this way and basically hinting at goodbyes at

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the end of that game. So
that made me feel like he may not

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be wanting to be a Titan ind
twenty twenty four, or either he doesn't

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feel like they would want him back. So I think it was just a

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bettersweet moment because this is the first
time in his career where we were officially

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out of playoff contention. I mean, look at all the drama that was

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happening in the early offseason with Jonathan, with Jonathan Taylor and Donathan Taylor was

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not expecting to come back to Indy. All the tabloids said that he wasn't

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coming back, and then the Colts
offered him a three year, forty plus

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million dollar contract. I mean,
anything can happen. I think that I

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think that Derek wants to go to
a serious contender, and there's very slim

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pickens of people that I think next
year he can go to that are going

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to say, you know, we
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I think that that's ultimately what he
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And I think we can maybe get
there with Ran, but I think we're

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good too, three seasons away from
really being in that super Bowl bubble of

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a chance. Yeah, And I
think one of the major things, even

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though we have a lot of cap
space with Spears, I think he takes

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a much larger role next year.
And Henry this year is making sixteen point

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four million against the cap, And
so if we're giving Spears a larger role

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than he would be expected to take
a pay cut. And this offseason he

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was the spearhead demanding higher pay for
running backs. So is he going to

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be able to cut Like, will
he feel all right cut his money in

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half after that campaign? This offseason? Well, I mean he's gone.

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I mean he's top five and rushing
guards, I believe still, and he's

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got ten to sis now he's number
six, Okay, so he's still in

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top ten. He was in the
top five for a majority of time he

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was number two for quite a bit
of time, and he had and he

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has ten to ten rushing touchdowns on
the season. So in this mind you

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this is all with a bad offensive
line. So in my opinion, I

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do think he is worth it.
I would continue to pay him the money.

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I in my opinion, I would
keep paying Derrick Henry the money until

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you know, you don't fix what's
not broken. I mean, our offensive

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line is broken, but Derrick Henry
has been one of the very few constants

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of this team. You know,
Derrick Henry is the person that we used

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to be able to win games fully
based upon his production, and I think

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we still can. But we have
to understand that Derek Henry is getting up

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there in age. He's going to
start slowing down, and he needs other

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people on the team. He can't
be the soul. He can't be the

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sole and only and that we win. Yeah, he used to be able

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to get two or three stiff arms
and be his own blocker downfield. Now

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you might get one stiff arm.
MAT love him, but you've got to

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help him out a little bit.
Yeah, he really needs I mean,

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the addition of d Hop has been
phenomenal for us, but we need some

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offensive lineman help, and I think
we need another really good wide receiver or

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two on the roster. And keeping
with the Henry theme, moving on to

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Sunday, You think he can get
a thousand yards this week? He's one

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sixteen away. No, not with
Bobby Wagner on the field. Yeah,

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point taken there. Not with one
of the greatest linebackers in the past twenty

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years playing on the field. Yeah. They are one of the worst rush

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defenses. They allow one twenty seven
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But I think that the Titans,
I think I think we'll keep him

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around that twelve to fifteen carry range
and that'll keep him around sixty to seventy

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yards even against the defense, because
I mean, why put unnecessary tread on

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his tires whenever you don't have a
chance at the playoffs, but wetting save

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a little bit in the tank.
Well, if Ryan Tannehill starts this weekend,

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he'll have more than twelve to fifteen
garys, which is another topic I

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had on Key here, like who
starts that quarterback the Levis is injured?

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Do you rather Ron Tannehill or do
you think they should see what Malik Willis

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has developed into funny question. So
I remember being at the Titans and Falcons

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game this fall, and I've seen
the fan reception that Malik Willis Scott after

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he fumbled the ball on her on
the first play he had. So I

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I don't think it should be Malik
Willis. I mean, I think I

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think we all know it's it's basically
done Dale that Ryan Tannehill's gone. I

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think the best way that we can
give Ryan tannehillo goodbye is let him go

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out there do what he needs to
do to show other teams that either he

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is a franchise quarterback still or he's
not. I mean, we're paying him

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bookoo amounts of money. Go out
there and prove to us that you can

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go win us some game, that
you can win us some games with this

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roster. Yeah, I agree.
I think I'm always of the opinion that

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you've got Levis. If he's capable
of going, then should go, because

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he's not going to develop sitting on
the bench. But if he's not capable

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of going, I like, you
know, Ryan Tannehill has done a lot

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for the team, took us to
an AFC championship, and the way that

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over the last twelve months that you
know, his narrative has been, with

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the interceptions, with everything that's gone
wrong, the injuries, give him a

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chance to if Levis ain't going give
him a chance to go out there and

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get a proper send off in front
of the home fans. Yeah, I

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agree. I agree with that.
And one other thing that I was wanting

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to ask. Should the Titans prioritize
getting that win or do you think they

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treat this as three preseason games and
kind of see what the bottom of the

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roster looks like and who can make
the team in twenty twenty four? I

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would I mean, you're not You're
not getting anything else, You're not getting

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anything out of us. I mean, I definitely don't want Ryan to Anaheltical

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out there and get absolutely murdered by
the Seahawks. But we do need to

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see, we need to have a
very serious moment with this roster, with

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this locker room, see what see
what we need to do, What players

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we need to bring in, What
players need to be cut If people don't

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want to be a part of this
roster anymore and they want to get cut

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and then go talk craft like to
your part and some of the other players,

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then we don't have a spot.
We don't have a spot for you.

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It's time for you to go.
Yeah, I agree, And no

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matter who's on the field, I
think the players are going to prioritize the

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win because guys like Philips and more
an Asease and Audrey, these guys are

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on one year contracts basically, and
so they're out there trying to earn their

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next deal, and whether or not
they're going to stay with the Titans or

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not, they still want that next
contract. And if you got Henry on

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the sidelines, then you know Spears
is trying to show that in twenty twenty

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four he should have that bigger role
and kind of unsee Henry. So they're

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always going to try to win.
But the coaches, I think that they

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should put some guys in that haven't
played a lot, especially if we're losing

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the game in the second half.
See what you got on some of these

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guys, because these are going to
be bubble guys in the preseason next year,

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So get a head start on your
homework. Fair. Fair, But

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all of that, he said,
what do you what do you think happens

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this game? Win, lose,
any score predictions? Well, Levis plays,

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we have If Gino Smith plays,
that also is a huge factor.

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But I watched Drew Locko out there
and beat the Philadelphia Eagles this past Monday

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night. Either way, based upon
how this team is playing, how the

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Seahawks are playing, I'm gonna say
Seahawks thirty one seventeen. Yeah, I'm

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of that same mindset. I think
that if Levis plays, then we got

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a chance to win like a twenty
four top game. But if Levis ain't

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playing, I think that Henry gives
unlimited capacity, and I think that we

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probably lose this one around that same
score, maybe like a thirty one to

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twenty one something like that. Okay, and just this just popped up on

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my feet over here on my other
screen, it says that Eagles fans after

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Monday Night's loss are asking for Frank
right to return return as offensive coordinator.

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They're already wanting to fire their offensive
coordinator. So if he gets fired,

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then I would one hundred percent be
in favor of fire and Tim Kelly.

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Even if Rabel stays and get fire
their defensive coordinator mid season, so well

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not even mid season, it's late
season. Yeah, yeah, Rabel's not

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going to do it though he has
too many friends on the roster he don't

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fire. I mean, we saw
Todd downing as bad as he was and

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with the d u I midweek,
then he still went firing until after the

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season ended. So yeah, yeah
that I think that'll. That'll wrap us

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up for this week. And thanks
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