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Kevin Durant breaking news here. Shan
Sharania is reporting from The Athletic that a

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new team has entered the Kevin Durant
sweepstakes. He writes, recently a new

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team has shown interest in Drant,
the Memphis Grizzlies. Least league sources tell

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the Athletic, fresh off of fifty
six win season, the Grizzlies have made

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new increase to the nets about Durant. Those sources added Memphis has five first

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round picks available, four unprotected selections
of its own and one protected via Golden

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State in twenty twenty four to utilize
in a trade, as well as young

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players like Jaren Jackson Junior, Desmon
bain Z, I hear Williams, Brandon

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Clark, Kennedy Chandler, and David
Roddy. Also, Sham's added that after

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Kevin Durant's trade request officially became official, that John Rant had tweeted easy money,

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which everyone knows that easy money sniper
is Kevin Durant, so they make

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those ties to it. And finally, Shania said that the Grizzlies so far

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been unwilling to include Bayne and Jaren
Jackson Junior in any trade talks and prefer

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instead to flip their bevy of bath
draft picks. Other teams were mentioned in

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this. The Raptors, the Celtics, the Heat, and the Suns are

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all kind of tangentially involved. The
Raptors still won't trade Scotty Barnes. The

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Celtics offer jam And Brown, Derek
White and a first. The Hawks offer

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John Collins, DeAndre Hunter and a
first. The ask Bryces that are being

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reported are like rather low. There
are very good players involved, John Collins

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all star caliber, but I think
this leads me to believe that some teams

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think Drant is eventually going to be
sent out for less than Brooklyn wants,

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which I would probably agree with.
Some of these packages are two low and

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look to jail and Brown offer if
that was on the table, Brown White

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and a first, like that's a
real that's a real offer. But for

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the Grizzly specifically, should they be
involved and can they even pull off a

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deal? I don't find in a
coincidence that this is being reported two days

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before Danny Green can be aggregated in
another trade. This report's coming out in

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August twenty second. Danny Green can
be aggregated with other players as part of

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a bigger deal August twenty fourth,
and his expiring salary matters even if he's

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not going to play next season,
because it's a nice salary anchor. If

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you're Memphis, though, you need
to copple together like between thirty five point

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two and thirty five point three million
dollars to take Kevin rampack. That's like

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if you're not including jarn Jackson junior, that's challenging, I will say,

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but it's not impossible. You have
to give up Steven Adams basically, So

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you have Steven Adams making that big
number at seventeen point nine million, and

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then you have Dylan Brooks. That
gets you to almost you know, thirty,

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you're at twenty nine point four million, and if you include Danny Green

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and there, you're at thirty nine
point four. So those three larger contracts,

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because if you're not trading Jaron Jackson
junior, you can't trade Tis Jones

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right now. You're not trading John
Moran. Clearly he also signed an extension,

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so it'll be tough to trade him
right now. So you have the

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meat and potatoes. It would probably
have to be Steven Adams and then Brooks

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or Green, if not both,
depending on what other money's going out.

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If they just want it to be
picks like you're probably looking at, this

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would be the offer. If they're
willing to uncork all their draft equity,

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you'd go Steven Adams, Dylan Brooks, Danny Green, Zaire Williams, and

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then Jake Lavia, David Roddy and
then all the picks, So four of

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your own would be twenty three,
twenty five, twenty seven, and twenty

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nine, and then you have Golden
States twenty twenty four pick that's top four

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protected, so you could go five
first round picks plus let's say Zaire Williams

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and then Jake la Ravia and David
Roddy plus salary filler. Basically, I

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mean Dylan Brooks is good. Maybe
the Nets value him for his defense,

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and he does have like some off
the dribble pizzazz on on certain nights.

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But the crux of the offer would
be, you can give the Nets five

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first round picks, up to four
of them are unprotected, plus that Golden

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State pick, and then can you
are they willing to accept that? Plus

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Zaire Williams has to be in this
deal if you're not getting Desmond Baine or

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Jaren Jackson junior, like the Nets
have failed there, or Kevin Durant just

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has all the leverage and they're trying
to get rid of him. I don't

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think that the Nets would do that. It's a it's a real offer.

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I want to make that clear.
If you're including five first round picks and

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you're trading picks into the distance for
twenty twenty nine, that's a real offer.

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I just think Brooklyn wants more of
an immediate bump from the package and

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having Dylan Brooks and Zaire Williams than
maybe a couple of rookies in there.

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I don't think that's gonna qualify as
an immediate pump. I'm a big believer

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that the Nets are eventually going to
have to concede on that front, and

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that if they really want the fringe
all star talent, they need to circle

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back to the Hawks with John Collins
or the Celtics with Jalon Brown. And

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to this point, it seems like
New Orleans won't trade Brandon Ingram for Kevin

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Durant. What this also all says
because and I'll use Desmond Bayane. I

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kind of get, we understand why
John Rant's untouchable, and I kind of

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get why Jaron Jackson juniors untouchable.
You'd want to pair him with Kevin Durant

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and then Desmond Bayane. Yeah,
it'd be ideal to keep him, But

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if you're not including Baine, and
also if you're not including Brandon Ingram,

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if you're New Orleans, and if
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you're Toronto, and maybe you wouldn't
anyway, this also tells me that Durant

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has yet to expand his list of
preferred destinations from Miami and Phoenix, and

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that's a big deal. There have
been some rumblings that he would welcome the

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opportunity to play in Boston, and
that might sort of explain why Jalen Brown

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is on the table. So it
does. Let's just throw those three teams

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in. Say he's Boston, in
Miami and Phoenix. I think Phoenix would

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be the like the the destination that
benefits most, like they might be the

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championship favorite with him. You probably
make the same case with the Heat or

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the Celtics even but I would my
own personal bias, I'd rather just see

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him in Phoenix. That would be
the most entertaining landing spot for me.

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But Memphis is like super intriguing.
If you have Jared Jackson Junior when he's

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healthy, John Morant and Kevin Durant, and then you're somehow able to keep

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Desmond Baine, that's like an absurd
top four. And as part of this

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deal, like you know, you're
not obliterating your entire depth because Tias Jones

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is not included in the deal.
You could get away in theory with the

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nets if you're including enough draft that
could be in young players. Would they

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let you keep Dylan Brooks just because
he's extension eligible. He's going to be

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a free agent. I just don't
know. Like, let's just say it's

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five first round picks and the Grizzlies
say, hey, we're gonna give you

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jakel Ravia, Zayer Williams, even
Brandon Clarke he's extension eligible too. I

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don't I don't envision the Nets having
I want to make this clear, and

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I know I think Grizzlies fans will
take exception to this. The Nets are

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not going to have supreme interest in
Brandon Clark or even maybe maybe Kennedy Chandler.

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I think they'll really like David Roddy. He's super intriguing. Is sort

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of this uh like he's smaller,
but he can play up really big.

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And if he hits his threes like
he did during his final year at school,

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I think that's intriguing. But they
would do this for the picks and

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Zayer Williams. And then if you're
including you know, David Roddy, and

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like, if you're just including the
rookies you took this year in David Roddy

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and Jake la Ravea specifically or two
of Kennedy Chandler, David Roddy, Jake

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la Ravia plus Yer Williams plus five
first round picks. I know, I

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know, I'm talking fast. There's
a lot to work through here, but

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let's say that's the meat and potatoes
of the offer is it's five first round

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picks, two of David Roddy,
jakel Ava and Kenny Chandler and then Zier

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Williams. That's like you can get
to the money without including Dylan Brooks.

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Still, you might have to move
some other players involved in this on the

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roster, but you could then have
Dylan Brooks, Tyas Jones, Kevin Durant,

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John Morant, John Morant, Jaren
Jackson Junior, Desmond Baine. That's

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an absurd team. I don't know
if I've called him the favorite in the

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West still, but the Grizzlies would
become like one of the with Durant next

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season. Specifically, if you tell
me Jaren Jackson Junior gets to playing,

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give me sixty games, give me
fifty five games, jar just tell me

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he's healthy for the playoffs. That's
a team that's going to be scary and

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one of the foremost title favorites.
If I'm Memphis, would I give up

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the draft equity to get Kevin Durant
without knowing whether he wants to stay.

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That's the question here. I probably
wouldn't. I need to know that Kevin

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Durant's gonna be committed to not request
to trade again after next season. And

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let's just say Kevin Durant's open to
playing with John Morant, open to playing

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in Memphis. Members a great market
by the way, Mempis is a great

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place, great food there, fantastic
fan base. Hopefully Grizzlies fans are watching

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this and the way that John Morant
has bought into and built up the culture

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around that organization and just inside the
city, maybe they're sort of like the

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day Me esque ness there where if
Kevin Durant came, maybe he would just

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love it because John Morant is so
ingrained there and that team was fucking fun

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last season, and that's where fucking
miserable the Grizzly These were fucking fun.

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So I would absolutely want to see
it. If you're the Grizzlies. You

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have to ask yourself though, if
you're really trying to keep baying like you're

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gonna include some swaps and there as
well, Like it could be a situation

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where it's five are you going five? First round picks and a couple of

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swaps plus some of the youngsters.
I still think I would do it,

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because if you're getting to like Decor, this isn't like the Suns, and

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they would have to go up all
the picks. Anyway, I'm trying to

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make a good example. It's not
a young it's not a team that would

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be left without upside if Durant came
here, because let's just say they keep

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Desmond Bane, I still I'd be
shocked. But let's say they keep Desmondaine

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and Jaron Jackson Junior John Morant.
Those guys haven't even entered their prime yet,

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and so there's like a nice more
natural segue here to Durant maybe taking

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on a smaller role or as he
ages and perhaps not being as good.

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Like the team is still going to
be able to not lift him up,

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but they're gonna be able to be
one of the foremost contenders for the duration

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of Durant's contract because they're kind of
already tracking in that direction. So I

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favor this idea. Color me skeptical
that it happens just because the asking pri

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I imagine the Nets will demand Jaron
Jackson Junior or Desmond Maine in this If

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one of those players isn't sent out
in this deal, I would be shocked.

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I understand the Grizzlies not including either
one in this deal, though I

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also remained skeptical that they would go
as far as four first round picks,

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four or five first round picks excuse
me, plus their full vote of youngsters

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that don't include Maine or Triple J. If they don't think Kevin Durant wants

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to come, so let's monitor this. They're an interesting team to throw into

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the mix. That's enough out of
me about this. The Athletics, Sham

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Sharania and Tony Jones are reporting that
the Nixon Donna Mitchell. We know that

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they were continuing to talk after apparently
weeks of not talking, which I think,

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just as execs run vacation, they
do frame it as a deal is

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not considered imminent, but we have
details of what the actual offer is.

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They write, quote, New York
made a recent offer of Evan Fournier,

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Obi toppin additional salary and two unprotected
first round picks five total, so five

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total first round picks, and they
know what the Jazz is asking. Price

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has been more significant than that.
Here are the Keys. Here are a

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few things. One, I would
be surprised if the Knicks make it out

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of this deal without including Quentin Grimes. Two, it feels like the gap

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is closing because we know the Jazz. It's been reported they wanted between six

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and seven first round picks. Five
is up there like five is a real

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haul. Five is Rudy Gobert territory. The question is what are those first

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round picks? If there's two unprotected, we know that they're Knicks picks.

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And if you're getting two Knicks picks
and you're the Jazz, that makes sense

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like you've shorted the Timberwolves future.
Why not short the Jazz the Knicks's future

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because the Knicks become exponentially better with
Donovan Mitchell. But historically, the Timberwolves

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and Knicks are two franchises that have
struggled to get out of the middle for

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a longer period of time, at
least since the you know, the Kevin

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Garnett era for Minnesota and then I
guess the Carmelo Anthony era in New York.

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But even that was touch and go. So those five first round picks

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a lot. But if we're talking
about two Knicks picks, and then the

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three conditional one is the Knicks hired
from Washington from Detroit, and then there's

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the Milwaukee two twenty five pick.
I don't know how much appeal that's going

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to have to Utah. They're gonna
want more Knicks picks. They're gonna want

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those out into the distance, and
so I think the sweet spot here is

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going to be probably three unprotected first
round picks, so that you're ensuring if

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you're the Jazz, yeah, you
get two thousand and twenty three, and

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then you're also going to get twenty
five and twenty seven. If you're the

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Knicks, you try and keep two
thousand and twenty nine out of there.

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But it does feel like the Knicks
are gonna have to include at least three

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unprotected first in this deal, especially
if you don't want to move RJ.

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Barrett to Quentin Grimes. The other
thing here is I think it's pretty clear

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that the Jazz don't want RJ.
Barrett. Maybe they would take him,

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but the Knicks probably value Barrett in
a way that they're gonna take first round

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picks off the table if they include
him. And if you're the Jazz,

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you see RJ. Headed for this
upcoming extension that will kick in in twenty

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three twenty four. Do you want
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so early into your rebuild. You
probably would rather have Quentin Grimes, maybe

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even Emmanuel Quickly who was two years
left on rookie scale. Quentin Grimes has

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three years left on his rookie scale. What's interesting is that The New York

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Post reported Tom Thibeau would prefer to
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he views Grimes as the better three
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mean that might be fair. RJ
has more levels to his game, more

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dimensions when you're looking at putting the
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Unless we buy a lot in the
Summer League, and you're not gonna need

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as much of a ball dominant r
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offf the ball. Let's make that
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much of a ball dominant RJ when
you have Jalen Brunson, Donovan Mitchell,

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and then Julius Randall has not been
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So unless you have another trade lined
up for him, that's something you need

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to consider. It does feel like
we're getting closer here because Obi toppin plus

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five first round picks. It feels
like it's a matter of the Knicks need

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to include one more young player and
then do they need to include another draft

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pick for six? Do they need
to unprotect one of their own and you

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know, sub out. Let's say
they're trying to do up the Dallas twenty

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three pick, but instead and who'd
wanted their own that's super loosely protected or

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lightly protected. Danny Age is not
an executive that has ever been rushed into

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a deal. For all the jokes
he has about almost like he is someone

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who's drawn hard lines in the sand
and then stuck to them. Quite frankly,

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I still think that he's going to
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Mitchell has not requested out yet and
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With that being said, the lack
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mentioning Charlotte and Washington as potential destinations, and Miami has been sort of lurking

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on the perimeter. The lack of
other teams involved here, like the scope

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of the Donna Mitchell talks at least
publicly, have not been as large as

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the Kevin Durant talks, where I
guess teams are taking a stab in the

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dark, and so that might cost
the Jazz a little bit of leverage.

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I ultimately think though, that the
team that's moving the star is always going

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to have more leverage, even when
they ask for out, even when they're

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sending them to where they want to
go. We've seen it in the past.

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James Harden wanted to go to Brooklyn
Locood, Brooklyn gave up for him.

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You know, Anti Games wanted to
go to Lakers. There was a

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market of one team there. Look
what the Lakers gave up for him.

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This is a little bit different because
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They don't already have that star in
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one, and I think they're a
team that really buys into We just need

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to get one and figure out the
rest later. The line that they have

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to straddle is can we give up
X amount for Donovo Mitchell and still have

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enough to go out and trade for
another star when he becomes available, when

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that right player becomes available. Because
to be a championship team, if you're

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the Knicks. You need Donovan Mitchell's
either equal or functional superior, a better

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player than him. That's not a
hot take, It's just a fact right

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there. And I do think the
Knicks, you know, we don't say

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this much about trade negotiations, but
I feel like both the Jazz and the

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Knicks have played this perfectly, and
maybe the Knicks this could be like a

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gradual sort of bend to where they
eventually break and meet Utah's asking price.

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I don't think Utah's gonna get seven
first round picks for Donovan Mitchell. I

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will be absolutely floored if that happened. Could I see them getting this package

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Obie topping five first round picks and
then either an additional youngster and an additional

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first round pick while taking on some
other just salary filler and Evan Fourier as

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Derek Rose involved here, who knows
TIBs would probably fight to keep him over

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emmanual quickly. Quite frankly, that
feels like the setup what it could be,

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where if the Knicks just throw in
Grimes, is this done? Or

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if they threw it in Grimes and
one of their own picks, or like

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loosing their protection on one of their
own picks. Again, we don't know

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how many of the Knicks picks aren't
included here. We know there's at least

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two because it's to unprotect them,
it has to be their own, so

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at least two. Let's like,
if there's already three of their own in

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there, let's just assume three of
the Knicks picks. Do they unprotect one

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and include Grimes? Does that get
the deal done? It feels like that's

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kind of where we're headed. I
need to see the final package before I

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judge like a winner or a loser
there. But I do think ultimately the

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team that's trading the star is always
going to have more of the leverage,

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especially when if the Jazz want to, they can make this super awkward and

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wait at least another year before it
becomes like terribly urgent to move Mitchell since

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he has three years left on his
deal. But if you're the Knicks,

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you also have to look at the
guy who's on the right side of twenty

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seven, probably only entering his prime, hasn't even entered his prime yet three

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years left on his deal. You've
shown a sense of urgency with the Jalen

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Brunson contract. They do feel like
the team that I don't think that there.

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I will also be equally shocked if
they get bamboozled here, like this

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isn't the you know, it doesn't
feel like James. No one's going to

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insert himself into these talks. Allah
Kamara Lanton in twenty eleven. You could

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also argue that the Knicks in hindsight, didn't really give up that much from

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Mellow, even if the trade didn't
pan out as they wanted. But you

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don't want to be seen universally is
given up too much. And the fact

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though that they've now included five first
round picks, that doesn't feel like it

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was the baseline offer, but it
does feel like they're trying to haggle over

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Well, if we're giving you all
these picks, we want to keep certain

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young players. My final thing here, if you're the Jazz, I've already

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said you're playing this perfectly, you
need to try and get another, at

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least the third Knicks pick. I
think that's the key here, is that

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you don't want all of these conditional
picks. It's kind of cool if they

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convey in the distance, because you
don't want to have too many coming in

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at once. But you need,
like the other teams have protections on there

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is even if they get looser as
time goes on. You need that third

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Knicks pick. And I think I
would want if I'm the Jazz, the

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third Knicks pick over Quentin Grimes,
and so like, if that's what's stopping

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this deal, if the Knicks really
want to keep Grimes, we know they

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kind of want to keep RJ,
and we know the Jazz don't really want

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r J. If it's going to
take an additional you know, six first

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plus Topping and Fourier, maybe that's
the middle ground and there could be more

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money that needs to be included there. The Jazz just based entirely on picks

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and topping? Is it quickly?
And I'm protecting one of those picks?

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There are plenty of different permutations here. I still would be fairly taken aback

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if the Knicks get out of this
without moving Quentin Crimes, because so much

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of the jazz Is rebuild is based
in the theoretical right now, Jared Vanderbilt,

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good young player, Walker Kessler intriguing, but just having your rebuild tied

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to picks right off the bat,
yeah, I guess it's more fine.

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For a season. I think they've
had a great offseason actually, but you

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want to have like a young long
term keeper there that you can point to

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and say, hey, here's where
we're headed, and to only be left

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with sort of as my nose is
running here apologies Obi Toppin and Walker Kessler

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in that situation, that's something I
think they're going to push more for two

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to have an additional body. Maybe
it's an Emmanual Quickly or Acquentin Grimes instead.

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Maybe it's two sping Pride for all
we know. But that's where the

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Donovan Mitchell trade talks stand. I
think that this deal is engining closer,

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even though it says no deal is
iminent yet. The fact that we're at

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five first round picks unless they're really
shitty first round picks, in addition to

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the like if the MIxS are only
giving up twenty three and twenty five of

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their own. But I think the
deal's engine closer. I still think it

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gets done before the start of the
season. I actually think it probably behooves

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the Jazz to let this leak into
the regular season and just see if other

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teams get desperate because of the way
they start and enter the mix but I

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still think this deal gets done before
opening night. Let me know what you

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think. What would you give up
for don Van Mitchell? If you're the

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mix, what would you give up? What do you demand from the mix?

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If you're the jazz? What you
just think about all of this?

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Do you think he ends up somewhere
else? Let me know in the comments,

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