1 00:00:03,759 --> 00:00:13,400 Welcome to Fantasy Hockey Life, presented by fan Tracks, your source of information 2 00:00:13,439 --> 00:00:17,079 and analysis to help you win your fantasy hockey league. Fuck off, that's 3 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:22,559 a step on. Stay lot, gosh. Here's your hosts, Jesse sup 4 00:00:22,679 --> 00:00:28,519 Here and Victor Nuno Fantasy Hockey Live back once again. We're still onto the 5 00:00:28,719 --> 00:00:33,560 NHL Draft. I am Jesse Severe fan Tracks and joining me it is Victor 6 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:38,399 Nunio of Dabber Prospects. Victor, how are you doing today? I'm doing 7 00:00:38,439 --> 00:00:43,600 awesome, Jess. Yeah, I'm so so enjoying talking all these prospects and 8 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:48,159 draft information from all these great sources. And we got another great one one 9 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:52,520 one of my favorite guests for sure, and Joel Henderson who knows the WHL 10 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:56,640 better than anyone, and you know your way around a mic better than anyone. 11 00:00:56,640 --> 00:01:00,799 How you doing, Jesse? Oh that's nice? I am. I 12 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:07,319 am doing great, man. I do truly enjoy talking to Joel about the 13 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:11,680 WHL and he does not disappoint. I will preview for you he will not 14 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:17,280 disappoint on this episode talking about some of the drafted guys. Victor, there 15 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:22,079 are things people need to know about because we are getting perilously close to I 16 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:26,560 believe it's July nineteenth, right where a certain thing involving a certain podcast is 17 00:01:26,599 --> 00:01:33,359 going to be certain drawn from a hat or something. 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Why don't you tell people what's in 46 00:03:22,879 --> 00:03:27,400 there? So much great stuff at the patreon. You know you got your 47 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:31,759 patron casts with extra content you got your patron Priority channel and the discord you 48 00:03:31,879 --> 00:03:37,000 got top ten lists that we're doing for each team. You can get extra 49 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:40,960 content about who the top prospects are and each team a little bit deeper dives 50 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:45,680 on those guys. And I think one of the biggest benefits is the tidy 51 00:03:45,719 --> 00:03:50,360 the tiered Dynasty. We launched this tiered Dynasty League last year and it was 52 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,680 a great success. This year, we people had a lot of fun and 53 00:03:53,759 --> 00:03:58,039 we created a whole new division with the top four in each of the initial 54 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:00,319 divisions, and so there's room for pull to come in and fill those spots. 55 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:03,280 We also created a brand new division so you can work your way to 56 00:04:03,319 --> 00:04:08,800 the top. You can get relegated if you're unlucky or not doing so well. 57 00:04:09,039 --> 00:04:11,960 But it's a great time and it's only for patrons. If you want 58 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:15,960 to take your Dynasty League, if you want to take your skills the next 59 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:18,040 level, you definitely want to check that out. And I think the other 60 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:25,279 big thing is the DAB or the prospect ranks that we have through us. 61 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:28,480 And there's if you think this is just like one rank, it's not. 62 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,800 It's a whole lot of stuff. There's twenty twenty three guys. There's defenceman, 63 00:04:31,959 --> 00:04:38,600 goalies, there's organizational ranks, top prospects within each team. There's a 64 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:42,399 whole lot of stuff. And thanks to you Jesse for collating all that, 65 00:04:42,439 --> 00:04:45,120 because this is not something that I could ever do with a spreadsheet, but 66 00:04:45,199 --> 00:04:48,160 I move guys around and help organize the ranks. So we tag team that 67 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:51,519 and it has. One of the best things about it is you can find 68 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:57,000 block shots and hit information about these players, which is really hard information to 69 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:00,120 find, so you can compare. You know, a couple prospects that you 70 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:03,959 know may be similar, but one has good bash and one doesn't have good 71 00:05:03,959 --> 00:05:08,879 bash, and so you can get that information which is sometimes hard to find. 72 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:13,399 So definitely check all that out Patreon dot com, slash Fantasy Hockey Life 73 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:16,439 and you can support the show. Get in there. There's cool stuff. 74 00:05:16,519 --> 00:05:20,639 Victor is always dreaming up more stuff and people are helping and it's it's just 75 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:24,920 a beautiful thing. Let's come back in just a minute. We want to 76 00:05:24,959 --> 00:05:33,680 talk for any chill draft shoulders back with the goth level guess. One of 77 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:39,720 our absolute favorites, Joel Henderson talking WHL Joel, how you doing over there? 78 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:43,600 I'm doing really well, I'm having a good day, ready to talk 79 00:05:43,639 --> 00:05:48,120 about hockey and all of the things. Man. This year, the WHL 80 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:53,279 did good for themselves in this NHL draft. They had some of the absolute 81 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:58,000 top prospects. In fact, they had the top prospect, like the top 82 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:01,480 prospect and Contrabadard. You presumably got to watch him all season a little bit 83 00:06:01,519 --> 00:06:04,600 closer up than some of the rest of us did. I don't know, 84 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:08,920 Joel. We'll just start by asking it. Connor Bdard, what's the deal? 85 00:06:08,959 --> 00:06:12,480 Man? Is he all that? Yeah? So for people who don't 86 00:06:12,519 --> 00:06:15,920 know, my hometown is Regina, Saskatchewan, I got to see Connor play 87 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:19,800 a lot and a lot in person, and I've gotten to see him play 88 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:24,079 a lot in person since the Hub, and so I got to see him 89 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:29,079 dominate and put up point per game when he was supposed to be exceptional status 90 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:31,639 into the league and while the other guys weren't playing Connor is There's a number 91 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:35,480 of elements that you look for in like a can't miss prospects, and one 92 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:41,680 of them is like goal scoring IQ, the ability to not only create your 93 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:45,120 own space, get to own space, do those sorts of things, but 94 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,040 then deliver. And I've said this a number of different times. I haven't 95 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:49,360 seen anyone to put this out there, but in my mind, Connor Bdard 96 00:06:49,439 --> 00:06:54,199 is like Jack Hughes, but with an Austin Matthew shot. And even if 97 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:58,959 you even if somehow you chopped off one of Connor's legs, he'd still probably 98 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:02,560 score forty as a stand as a stand and shoot from the half wall scorer. 99 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:08,040 So it's even if everything goes awful, if everything goes awful, like 100 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:12,240 as far as like the expectations go, he's still gonna find He's still going 101 00:07:12,279 --> 00:07:15,120 to find some sort of value in the way that he plays. So it's 102 00:07:15,199 --> 00:07:20,240 just me he's as can't miss as you can get that. Yeah, I'm 103 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:27,079 just imagining this one legged Connorberdard sniping top top shelf goals. That's all I've 104 00:07:27,079 --> 00:07:30,199 got to victory that image. Now, I don't know what to do with 105 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:33,839 that. Victor nobody tried that at home, thank image. I guess. 106 00:07:33,879 --> 00:07:36,839 One of my favorite stories is tell is when they were Graham for that one 107 00:07:36,879 --> 00:07:42,240 World Juniors when he was he was an under, a double under last year 108 00:07:42,319 --> 00:07:46,360 or whatever, and they had picked the first part of the team and then 109 00:07:46,519 --> 00:07:49,120 everybody was like, is Connorbadard going to be on there and it's not necessarily 110 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,959 and they go about their things, and I remember someone asking me and they 111 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:56,199 said, do you think Connor Bdard deserves to be on this team? And 112 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:58,639 I said, if Connorberdard isn't on this team, then people need to be 113 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,199 fired. That's how I feel. And I was like, that's my level 114 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:05,839 of certainty here. And so then they had that a second round of camp 115 00:08:05,839 --> 00:08:07,600 and they brought in a whole second round of players to be like, these 116 00:08:07,639 --> 00:08:13,439 guys might earn their way onto the team basically, and Connor showed up and 117 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:16,959 I think he got four points in the first scrimmage game and it was and 118 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:18,519 I think he had no I think he had four goals in the scrimmage game 119 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:22,720 something like that, Like it was something's just bonkers. And I laughed and 120 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:24,079 it was like, just put him on the team. And then and they 121 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:28,560 did, and he run them up and it was beautiful. And so I 122 00:08:28,639 --> 00:08:33,000 just think he's a guy that's continued to prove everything for quite a long time. 123 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:35,200 One of the things that I think is really fun is what do you 124 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:41,240 I like the additions that Chicago made for a few reasons. One being what 125 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:45,080 do you want Connor to learn as a young player in the league. If 126 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:48,759 you want him to learn about the pressures of being a first overall pick, 127 00:08:50,039 --> 00:08:52,879 you just got Taylor Hall, a guy to really walk you through what that 128 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,600 is. If you want a guy that like the talks about leadership and talking 129 00:08:56,600 --> 00:09:00,960 about being like a top Canadian player and all those sorts of things, you 130 00:09:01,039 --> 00:09:05,200 just got yourself. Corey Perry learned all those things at them at the next 131 00:09:05,279 --> 00:09:07,320 levels and that kind of stipulation. If you want to if you want him 132 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:11,799 to learn what it's like to be a true captain and like a really big 133 00:09:11,879 --> 00:09:13,799 leader in the locker room, you just got yourself, Nick Flino. So 134 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:18,840 to me, they went out and said these three years, three players are 135 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:22,559 probably going to be really instrumental for somebody like him, and so I am. 136 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:24,960 I just I don't know. I like it. I like all of 137 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:30,600 it. Where you put the line for Connor's point pace in Chicago this year 138 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:35,639 depends on Chicago. Right now, all we know is, well, you 139 00:09:35,759 --> 00:09:37,759 just mentioned some of the great additions, which I totally agree with. They 140 00:09:37,759 --> 00:09:41,799 need to surround him with some talent, and they did. Maybe they're not 141 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:45,480 done, but right now with what we know on July six, what do 142 00:09:45,519 --> 00:09:48,559 you think? Well, like you said, I think you'll need a little 143 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:50,559 bit of help in play driving. I don't know if they necessarily have someone 144 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:54,840 that can really help him play driving wise, it'll be a little bit hit 145 00:09:54,919 --> 00:09:58,120 or miss for Badard. Just I think in the same way that it was 146 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:01,519 for Jack Hughes. It'll just take him maybe a year to really to be 147 00:10:01,879 --> 00:10:07,440 dominant in the middle of the ice as a transition player, but it won't 148 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:09,559 take long. My line for him is, I think the bare minimum if 149 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:15,360 he's healthy all the year is like seventy and then anything above that, Like, 150 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:18,039 I don't know. I'm really not wanting to hold back my level of 151 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:20,519 thought on this kid, because, like I said, he can score very 152 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:26,679 quickly, and so Puck's squeaked to him, and he already knows like all 153 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:31,360 of the one touch plays that he can make the teammates the touch passes back 154 00:10:31,399 --> 00:10:35,200 to the defense, and he can rocket shots while changing the angle on the 155 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:39,559 shots as quickly as anybody. So I just he's going to score a lot. 156 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:43,360 Seventy at the minimum, I think if he's healthy all year, love 157 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:46,480 it, love it all right. We could talk all day about Connor Bardard, 158 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:50,120 but we're not We're gonna talk about some of the other great WHL guys. 159 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:54,879 And the next w TEL guy taken was Nate Danielson, but I don't 160 00:10:54,879 --> 00:10:58,360 think was totally surprising, but I was a little surprised the Red Wings went 161 00:10:58,399 --> 00:11:01,840 there because I was figuring they go best suite available, as they tend to 162 00:11:01,879 --> 00:11:03,679 do, but they went with Danielson, who I think a lot of people 163 00:11:03,759 --> 00:11:09,360 have called this a safe pick, meaning like he has a really projectable game 164 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:13,080 in terms of being an NHLer. But I'm wondering, and I talk with 165 00:11:13,159 --> 00:11:16,200 some of the scouts about this, and they were saying that they just don't 166 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:18,399 know what the upside is. That maybe he's more of a middle to bottom 167 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:22,919 sixth center, and I wonder where you think about that. But also I 168 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:26,759 pulled up this comp on hockey prospecting to Kirby Dock, and he seems to 169 00:11:26,759 --> 00:11:31,799 have similar point projections. Now, Kirby Docks, we don't know the outcome 170 00:11:31,879 --> 00:11:35,120 really still in terms of what he is going to be long term, but 171 00:11:35,159 --> 00:11:37,519 he certainly hasn't He's had has an up and down early career. I think 172 00:11:37,519 --> 00:11:41,600 you could say, but what do you think about that comp in terms of 173 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:43,480 what we might expect from Danielson and what do you think about his game in 174 00:11:43,519 --> 00:11:48,600 general. I've never really thought about that comp before, but that's actually pretty 175 00:11:48,639 --> 00:11:50,480 nice. I don't mind that at all. I think Kirby was a player 176 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:54,519 in his wh ol days that was still trying to figure out who he was. 177 00:11:54,919 --> 00:11:56,720 He went on periods of time where he went I think he had a 178 00:11:56,759 --> 00:12:00,600 massive point scoring streak, and then he went on a time yet a massive 179 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:03,360 drought. He was trying to playmate from the half wall quite a lot. 180 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:07,360 Danielson is a really unique player, Like I've talked about him as a really 181 00:12:07,399 --> 00:12:11,919 effortless transition player because of his long stick, long stride, great finesse, 182 00:12:11,039 --> 00:12:16,720 really fast hands processing. He really just makes transition hockey very easy. I 183 00:12:16,919 --> 00:12:20,279 as a longtime Calgary fan, I've talked about Michael Backland as a guy that's 184 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:24,159 that is way more smart about his positioning than he is about just being dominant 185 00:12:24,159 --> 00:12:28,960 in all positions. It's not his strength, Like it's not his strength on 186 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:33,279 the pocket. It's not it's not the power and his shot, it's not 187 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:37,279 his like holding onto the pocket then to the very last second to set up 188 00:12:37,279 --> 00:12:39,480 a teammate. It's none of those kinds of things. It's just Danielson has 189 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:43,080 a lot of tools and he's still working on how to be the most dangerous 190 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:46,200 player he can be. I guess I would say, I guess the safe 191 00:12:46,279 --> 00:12:50,840 comes from he has a lot of growth still left in him, which is 192 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:56,200 a good thing. And the skating stride and his intelligence in the fastness of 193 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,440 the hands is going to make him a good transition player in the NHL. 194 00:13:00,039 --> 00:13:03,519 Shot still, like like I said, he takes smart shots, but he's 195 00:13:03,519 --> 00:13:05,600 not a natural goal scorer. I would say he's more of a guy that 196 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:09,600 just plays in flow and it's just a strong possession player. He's there's a 197 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:15,399 versatility of outcomes. But I could see Kirby dock and frustrations of different points 198 00:13:15,399 --> 00:13:18,240 in time. That would make sense to me too, because Kirby's still he's 199 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:24,879 still growing into who he is too. You think Nate has that upside to 200 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:30,120 be seventy plus point type of players, He maybe too well rounded for his 201 00:13:30,159 --> 00:13:33,440 own good, where he ends up being more of a matchup type of center, 202 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:35,600 maybe a middle six kind of guy. He does that that kind of 203 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:39,559 upside, but it ends up being about more about the line that he's on 204 00:13:39,639 --> 00:13:41,960 in the place style that they are, like, I don't think Nate is 205 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:46,240 one of those guys that goes, I'm gonna get seventy no matter what every 206 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:48,639 year. It's way more about the possession. It's way more about the team 207 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:52,960 style play with his Like I said, the things that have been drawbacks for 208 00:13:52,039 --> 00:13:56,240 me about him is that he's not naturally that guy that like draws all of 209 00:13:56,279 --> 00:14:00,559 the pressure to him and he's calculating it all his head and he's waiting that 210 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:05,159 last second to set up that prime opportunity for a teammate. He's just more 211 00:14:05,159 --> 00:14:07,080 of a guy that really understands when you pressure him. He knows how to 212 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:11,399 evade the pressure and pass to a teammate and do things like that. He 213 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:13,519 has all the tools, and it's just there's a level I think in a 214 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:18,360 player to go from a really good hockey player to like that's seventy point or 215 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:22,200 above echelon of player, And I think he has all the skills to do 216 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:26,120 it. He has all the potential to do it, but I haven't quite 217 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:28,840 seen that in him yet. We'll see. I do think it was a 218 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:31,559 bit of a reach as far as like where he went, but you can 219 00:14:31,559 --> 00:14:33,600 see that in his he still has all that potential to grow and stuff too. 220 00:14:33,639 --> 00:14:37,039 So I understand it from that standpoint in him being a true centerman. 221 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:43,519 Down to the next guy from the dub who was drafted, Zach Benson, 222 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:48,639 number thirteen. Overall, really looks like Buffalo got a value in this guy. 223 00:14:48,159 --> 00:14:52,960 The Winnipeg I slash when at you wild forward, it sounds like because 224 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:58,360 that team is relocating, but he's apparently going with him south of the border. 225 00:14:58,759 --> 00:15:01,960 He gave Victor a nice talk about how he already knows guys associated with 226 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:05,639 the Sabers, including past teammate Matt Savoy. He told him that at the 227 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:11,240 draft or recording the recording the scrum with him. I guess the downside is 228 00:15:11,679 --> 00:15:16,519 what I'm reading is that he's five ten, a little bit lighter weight, 229 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:20,399 but the two way play and the motor are renowned for this guy. Ninety 230 00:15:20,399 --> 00:15:24,080 eight points and sixty games last year's no joke. Why do you think Benson 231 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:31,120 slipped? What should we expect from him in terms of performance? Joel I 232 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:33,559 would say a couple of reasons. One is, yeah, due to this 233 00:15:33,679 --> 00:15:37,120 size. I think there's just he's not a dominant physical player. He's a 234 00:15:37,159 --> 00:15:41,960 dominant positional player. And so the size and the grind and those kinds of 235 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:45,240 things. If you're looking at a matchup of Florida and Vegas in the playoffs, 236 00:15:45,279 --> 00:15:48,919 and you're going, we want more of that and less of there's and 237 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:52,200 then Benson is he's probably way more of a natural winger. And sometimes the 238 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:56,360 centerman or the big defenseman get the bump or those sorts of things. And 239 00:15:56,399 --> 00:16:00,000 then Benson also just that he doesn't have that top tier shot, and so 240 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:04,240 his play is all about efficiency. I talk about this and I say this 241 00:16:04,279 --> 00:16:08,200 all the time. He is Captain efficiency to me. He is. There 242 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:11,440 are players and most of the players that we talk about here are like here's 243 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:15,279 where they are, Here's where they can grow too. And Zach Benson is 244 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:19,720 about is. He is about as efficient as a hockey player can be. 245 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:25,200 It's actually really gross. Like even when I go when I talked about Badar, 246 00:16:25,399 --> 00:16:27,279 we're going to talk about the ways in which he can grow his game. 247 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:32,159 And then you watch Benson and you go and you like throw your hands 248 00:16:32,159 --> 00:16:34,159 in the air and you go, he's perfect. He's perfect. I hate 249 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:37,519 it. I hate it, And all year I've just coined the term like 250 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:41,879 he's the hockey School of Zach Benson, because anytime anyone was like, how 251 00:16:41,879 --> 00:16:45,559 do I improve my game, I want to go, let me send you 252 00:16:45,679 --> 00:16:49,559 shifts of Zack Benson because the way that the way that he can adjust his 253 00:16:49,639 --> 00:16:52,679 play so fast, the way that he moves on his edges, the way 254 00:16:52,679 --> 00:16:56,679 that he pressures guys in the fore check, the way that he recalibrates in 255 00:16:56,679 --> 00:16:59,120 the middle of the ice, the way that he can manute, like, 256 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:02,799 the way that he can play with multiple different teammates, the way that he 257 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:06,000 can absolutely change his game. He is on the PK, he's on the 258 00:17:06,039 --> 00:17:10,279 power play, he's never demanding. It's the reason that he's putting up all 259 00:17:10,319 --> 00:17:15,599 of those points in the WHL is not because he's getting soasced prime power play 260 00:17:15,599 --> 00:17:19,039 minutes. It's because he's earning it on the PK and at five on five 261 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:22,880 it's actually gross. And it's hard to find comparisons for guys like that because 262 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:26,640 I don't really know too many in the NHL. They're their own kind of 263 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:30,680 echelon of player, right, that elite five on five player that always gets 264 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:34,279 undervalued, right, And I think we've seen some of the last number of 265 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:38,000 years those guys that have really moved up in the world. But I think 266 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:41,079 of those guys as more and who are the undervalued guys in the league. 267 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:45,960 The Jonathan Marsheszose, the Yesper Bratz, the Lucas Raymonds, those kinds of 268 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:51,759 thing, And so I think Zach Benson he has the upside of being just 269 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:59,000 an absolute unbelievable compliment winger who dominates at the PK and plays on your second 270 00:17:59,039 --> 00:18:03,920 power play and you're just I don't know. He's a fan favorite everywhere he 271 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:07,599 goes, and I just love the kid. You can't not cheer for him. 272 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:11,759 Joel, I think of a baseball prospect term called does he have any 273 00:18:11,799 --> 00:18:15,720 projection left? And it makes me wonder. You said, his technique is 274 00:18:15,759 --> 00:18:19,319 already so good, and I don't know whether he's done growing, but he's 275 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:22,599 never going to be. Is he going to have a growth spurt or is 276 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:26,279 this going to be beside that he plays in the NHL? Does he have 277 00:18:26,759 --> 00:18:30,759 is he already a finished product for what he is or is there ways that 278 00:18:30,799 --> 00:18:33,599 this kid's game could grow and become better. I wonder if that might be 279 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:37,519 the problem. Yeah, I would say that the growth in his game comes 280 00:18:37,519 --> 00:18:40,880 in two different ways. I think it comes in the one timer of his 281 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:44,200 shot release, and so I think it just if I were him, I 282 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:45,920 would work on strength and conditioning, which he's going to do over the next 283 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:48,640 year to two years, and then after that it's going to be about his 284 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:52,200 shot release and if he can become a more dangerous score and he doesn't have 285 00:18:52,279 --> 00:18:56,559 to be like the end of the world type of goal scorer. There's a 286 00:18:56,559 --> 00:18:59,319 lot of guys that have scored thirty plus goals in the league up to forty 287 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:02,240 and they're not They don't have the greatest shot in the world. It's way 288 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,319 more about the positioning and the timing and how fast it comes off your stick, 289 00:19:04,599 --> 00:19:07,200 And so when he works on those sorts of things, then I think 290 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:11,599 it'll just continue to rise his portfolio. But ia in Winnipeg too, they 291 00:19:11,599 --> 00:19:15,200 had all sorts of different talents, just a wondrous of talents, and Zach 292 00:19:15,279 --> 00:19:18,680 was a forgotten guy on the power play because he's just not a natural absolute 293 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:22,039 whatever. But if you go back and you watch the all start like the 294 00:19:22,079 --> 00:19:25,599 top Prospect game, those sorts of things, and you watch the way that 295 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:29,599 Benson seamlessly played with Bidard it's like, that's what he's gonna do. One 296 00:19:29,599 --> 00:19:33,279 of the things that I've been saying is that in terms of his equivalency, 297 00:19:33,559 --> 00:19:38,160 he looks actually it's similar to Mitch Marner, and I don't know that the 298 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:42,400 play style is exactly the same, but Marner isn't the biggest guy and neither 299 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:47,960 one of a big volume shooters, but they both attract attention and can just 300 00:19:48,279 --> 00:19:52,960 dismantle you with their hockey I Q. So I don't know what you think 301 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:56,880 about that. In comparison, I would say Marner is way more of an 302 00:19:56,920 --> 00:20:00,839 offensive leaning guy like he just he has that confidence in that swagger to be 303 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:04,119 that guy who can curl back and shoot heavier. So I would say Marner 304 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:08,680 is more of the offense of the natural offensive guy. But Marner, he's 305 00:20:08,799 --> 00:20:11,400 been really working on his two way game too, right, and so he's 306 00:20:11,519 --> 00:20:15,079 ended up becoming a very good defensive player as well. And Benson is just 307 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:21,359 once again I don't know how many different synonyms I couldn't say, for like 308 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:25,079 perfect positionally, So he's just always in the right spot at the right time, 309 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:29,160 and it comes from the quickness and his agility and how fast he's able 310 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:33,799 to adjust and how he just understands the flow of play and the way that 311 00:20:33,839 --> 00:20:37,400 they're maneuvering within the offensive system as well. It's just it's it's elite as 312 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:40,799 far as I've ever seen. I've never seen a player like him in the 313 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:45,279 WHL and but alread included, Benson's on another level when he thinks on those 314 00:20:45,319 --> 00:20:49,039 types of things. Awesome. All right, let's move on to the next 315 00:20:49,079 --> 00:20:52,680 guy. Even though we could talk about Benson forever too. Well, last 316 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:53,880 thing I want to say about it is because it's just a little anecdote that 317 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:57,160 I love. Is that. So on my other side of when I'm a 318 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:03,920 musician and so I've a show last summer in Calgary and I played with I 319 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:07,720 played a show with Peyton Krebs's sister. She's a musician out of Calgary, 320 00:21:07,759 --> 00:21:12,000 and she's a very talented songwriter. And so the whole Krebs family came to 321 00:21:12,039 --> 00:21:15,400 the show and I got to meet Peyton there as well. And so Peyton 322 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:19,079 and I Matt and talked and Peyton just went so, Zach Benson, Hey, 323 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:22,519 and it was just like that was who he wanted to talk about too. 324 00:21:22,519 --> 00:21:25,359 And it was before obviously this last year or two, but it's just 325 00:21:25,599 --> 00:21:26,200 the one thing a little out of two. With that, I know that 326 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:30,920 he's like even the teammates know, like, Zach Benson is a really good 327 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:36,039 hockey player. Yeah, oh sorry, Vicer. I was gonna jump in 328 00:21:36,039 --> 00:21:40,880 and say when you interviewed him, he talked about Krebs and Savoy going out 329 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:44,359 to eat with him in Buffalo and getting together with him when he was there 330 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:48,799 for the combine Victor. Yeah, he did. He did. He talked 331 00:21:48,799 --> 00:21:52,119 about that, and I think it's a great landing spot for him. He 332 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:55,559 also when I talked to him, I just loved the fact that someone asked 333 00:21:55,640 --> 00:22:00,960 him subtly about him being small, and he was just like, yeah, 334 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:03,119 I'm a really good player. My hockey sends is elite. I have good 335 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:07,759 skill. I was like, yeah, he just who cares And that's yeah, 336 00:22:07,799 --> 00:22:10,279 that's how a lot of us feel like. It doesn't matter. He 337 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:14,559 doesn't play to his size. All the things you said already, He's fantastic 338 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:18,640 if you're a person who really wants to break down strategically, just like what 339 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:19,799 players are doing and stuff. Like I said, I'm like, I just 340 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:26,079 it's the joys of watching hockey is watching Zach Benson play like he's going to 341 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:29,279 continue to grow, and I think with every bit of strength that he adds, 342 00:22:29,559 --> 00:22:33,119 he just gets naturally stronger and harder to handle on the puck and those 343 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:36,400 sorts of things. He just comes at you in layers, and if plan 344 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,480 A doesn't work, Plan B, Plan C, Plan D, Plan E, 345 00:22:38,799 --> 00:22:41,559 it's it's just so fun to watch, and I'm just excited for him 346 00:22:41,559 --> 00:22:45,920 to go up against the top of the competition because I just think he's going 347 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:48,039 to excel. I don't know if he ends up being like the echelon or 348 00:22:48,039 --> 00:22:52,480 the echelon part of his I think part of his part of his value is 349 00:22:52,519 --> 00:22:56,400 playing with that elite sniper or that elite transition center and those types of things. 350 00:22:56,559 --> 00:22:57,359 So if you can put them with those players. But once again, 351 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:00,880 when you start to think about Buffalo and the players that Benson could end up 352 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:07,559 playing with, it's like this is that's really nice for sure? All Right, 353 00:23:07,599 --> 00:23:11,559 So the next guy probably won't have as many things to say about him. 354 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:15,480 I don't know, we'll see, but Braden Yeager went fourteenth overall and 355 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,359 he put up nearly a point per game in his D minus one season, 356 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:22,599 so expectations were pretty high. I remember last year, we were talking about 357 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,279 the Yeager bombs and how fun that was going to be to talk about in 358 00:23:25,279 --> 00:23:27,400 his draft season. And he didn't have a bad season by any means, 359 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,920 seventy eight points in sixty seven games. But I think the jump wasn't as 360 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:34,799 big as some people might have wanted or hopeful, I'm sure Braden included. 361 00:23:36,519 --> 00:23:40,240 And he still ends up going pretty high fourteenth. It's great, But how 362 00:23:40,279 --> 00:23:42,839 do you like his landing spot in Pittsburgh. He instantly becomes their best skating 363 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:47,680 prospect by a mile. But what do you think of Braden Yeager's upside and 364 00:23:47,799 --> 00:23:51,759 what he ends up being. Well, I think one of the things I 365 00:23:51,799 --> 00:23:53,880 was saying about as soon as they took him to was people talking about timelines, 366 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,160 and so with Pittsburgh, like, there's a timeline with their team, 367 00:23:57,759 --> 00:24:00,680 and so if you can get somebody that can come in maybe a year or 368 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:04,400 two earlier than someone else can, I think that's good for their whole system. 369 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:10,160 Braden Yeager is he has the size, the strength, the skate like 370 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:14,960 the skate to length, He has the physicality. He can play center if 371 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:15,960 you need him too. You can play waiting if you do. So there's 372 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,119 a lot of versatility in his play. Yeah, I think he did. 373 00:24:19,319 --> 00:24:23,839 I was expecting him to maybe drop a little bit going into this year. 374 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:26,440 I was wondering if we're going to see a little bit of that. The 375 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:30,480 biggest thing I think is if people are looking at the numbers, is that 376 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:36,319 Braden Yeager was essentially the trigger man on his line last season, and so 377 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,960 it was Jagger Fercus and some of the other guys really moving pucks around and 378 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:45,599 Yeager putting himself trying to put himself in shooting position all the time. And 379 00:24:45,759 --> 00:24:49,480 this year he was he was really trying to round out his game. And 380 00:24:49,519 --> 00:24:52,039 if you see any interviews with him on that kind of thing, he talks 381 00:24:52,079 --> 00:24:56,440 about that a lot. Where he was playing center a lot more, he 382 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,880 was involved in the transition of the play a lot more. He was able 383 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,839 because they were looking for him to shoot off the rush, he was able 384 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:06,279 to use a lot of fakes and slip passes and stuff, and then in 385 00:25:06,319 --> 00:25:10,440 those offensive situations they were using Jagger Fercus more as the trigger man. To 386 00:25:10,519 --> 00:25:12,680 be honest, right now, I would say that Jagger has the better shot 387 00:25:14,279 --> 00:25:15,839 and so at the WHL level, So I don't even get that like it 388 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,960 makes sense for me as a team play there. But Yeagger is working on 389 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:22,240 the right things. He is starting to work on changing the angle of his 390 00:25:22,279 --> 00:25:26,559 shot slightly by just pulling a little bit in more to his body. I'd 391 00:25:26,599 --> 00:25:27,559 like to see him do it a lot more. I'd like to see him 392 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:32,200 change angle more with his feet and be more unpredictable. He's he's striding in. 393 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:33,519 There's a lot of things that he can continue to work on. But 394 00:25:33,599 --> 00:25:37,519 he's a guy that's just had a baseline of success for a number of years. 395 00:25:37,759 --> 00:25:38,720 Yeah, I did have him when he was another one of those guys 396 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,799 that I did have a little bit lower on my board. But I think 397 00:25:41,839 --> 00:25:45,559 if you're Pittsburgh, there's a little bit more of a play certainty there. 398 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:48,000 And Yeah, and I just think that he's a guy that could blossom. 399 00:25:48,039 --> 00:25:51,839 Maybe after a few years. He might. He might struggle in a first 400 00:25:51,839 --> 00:25:53,839 couple of years if he hasn't put in prime positioning, if he's in the 401 00:25:53,839 --> 00:25:56,920 bottom six and he has to earn it on his own, he might. 402 00:25:56,319 --> 00:26:00,000 There might be a little bit of problems there, But I think he'll figure 403 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:00,599 it out. And I think he's one of those guys that's just going to 404 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,799 have a good NHL career. There was a comparare while I was going to 405 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:08,079 make and I always forget his name, Owen Tippett. Owen Tippett is somebody 406 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:12,119 that I think that there's a lot of similarities with Brandon Yegger, and so 407 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,680 it took Owen a little bit right. He wasn't given anything, and he 408 00:26:15,759 --> 00:26:18,279 was he struggled litle bit in a third line role. In this year. 409 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:22,079 When he was given a bit more opportunity, you got to see a bit 410 00:26:22,079 --> 00:26:23,559 more goals out of him. Those sorts of things, I think we might 411 00:26:23,599 --> 00:26:27,359 see some similar path maybe something like that. I think maybe a little bit 412 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:33,960 of struggles and then might find his way a little bit after that, Samuel 413 00:26:33,079 --> 00:26:38,599 Hansick went number sixteen overall to the Calgary Flames. What I'm reading about this 414 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:42,359 guy is it's a guy with a profile that shows a big, sturdy, 415 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:48,799 puck controlling center. He's from Trench and Slovakia, the hometown of Zadeno Chara. 416 00:26:48,079 --> 00:26:52,720 He was good for fifty six points in forty three games, but also 417 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:56,240 good for five less inches tall than Chara. When he was playing for the 418 00:26:56,279 --> 00:27:00,000 Vancouver Giants last year, I read less suggesting that this guy has big swing 419 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,920 upside, maybe more of a high floor. But are you picking up when 420 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:10,599 I'm putting down Joel or am I misspeaking for Samuel Hansi's prospects. No, 421 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:14,400 I don't think you're misspeaking. I think he's an interesting player in that. 422 00:27:14,519 --> 00:27:21,440 Once again, he's his biggest strength to me is his ability to keep possession. 423 00:27:22,079 --> 00:27:23,960 And so when he's in the zone, he uses his body in his 424 00:27:25,039 --> 00:27:29,279 frame and he senses the pressure coming quite a lot. It's actually to me 425 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,799 it's his biggest strength, and right now his biggest weakness, which is that 426 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:36,000 when he sends his pressure into the zone, he's way more inclined to go 427 00:27:36,039 --> 00:27:40,039 into a puck protection mode split stride. And so when there's a guy with 428 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:41,880 that big of upside, that much of a guy that could turn into more 429 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:45,240 of a power forward take it to the puck heavier. He's a guy that 430 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,200 once he sends his pressure on his side, like if he's moving into the 431 00:27:48,279 --> 00:27:51,839 zone, he split strides, he goes to protect, and he looks for 432 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:56,079 a passing outlet. So it is very possession oriented, but sometimes he gets 433 00:27:56,119 --> 00:28:00,960 more secondary assists by just like cycling back the defenseman shot on that rebound goal 434 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:04,279 and he gets that second assist. So he's still learning, but to his 435 00:28:04,319 --> 00:28:08,240 credit, he really was trying to power through those moments, break that habit, 436 00:28:08,319 --> 00:28:11,960 really push and become that aggressive player because he can play at his reach. 437 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,079 He's got a ton of finess. He's a very smart player as well. 438 00:28:15,519 --> 00:28:18,400 His one timer on the off side. The puck can come on and 439 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:22,319 off his stick very quickly too. He's a guy that I see his floor 440 00:28:22,839 --> 00:28:26,240 being a third liner. But he's the type of player that if the fit 441 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:30,960 is right, he can play anywhere in your top six. So I think 442 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:36,160 he hasn't interesting upside. It'll just end up being about the other elements. 443 00:28:36,519 --> 00:28:41,400 And there's certain things that hold kind of players back from reaching those new echelons, 444 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:45,000 and I think Hans's biggest one is just breaking that habit of becoming too 445 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:49,079 predictable when the pressure comes. I love that he retains like possession. I 446 00:28:49,079 --> 00:28:53,119 love that he doesn't throw pucks away or he scans. He's very intelligent with 447 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,359 the way he moves the parks. I just you want to see a bit 448 00:28:56,480 --> 00:29:02,079 more of that, like break into it and start dominating. Because he has 449 00:29:02,119 --> 00:29:04,880 the hands and the smarts and the IQ to really score in tight but there's 450 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:08,680 a lot to come. Like he still is a work in progress, but 451 00:29:08,759 --> 00:29:14,519 he is one that has a ton of outside nice So the next guy, 452 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:22,359 Defenseman Tanner Muhlendik. He went twenty fourth overall to Nashville. Every Nashville pick 453 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:26,319 got a lot of brave reviews, as I'm sure you could imagine in person 454 00:29:26,599 --> 00:29:30,640 at the draft, and from what I understand, excellent skater, really good 455 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:34,000 shutdown guy. Seems like he has a high likelihood of getting NHL looks, 456 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:38,119 even though he's only five to eleven, so maybe slightly undersized, but just 457 00:29:38,279 --> 00:29:44,279 really good mobility. One of the comps on Hockey Prospecting that seemed reasonable based 458 00:29:44,359 --> 00:29:47,640 on that mobility was Nick Letty. So I don't know what you think about 459 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:51,119 that and maybe what his offensive upside is. So what do you think about 460 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:56,400 Muhlendik and his fantasy upside that's actually not bad. I don't mind that comparable 461 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,319 at all. I think that's that makes a lot of sense to me. 462 00:29:59,759 --> 00:30:03,079 There's another couple of guys. There's another guy in San Jose. I always 463 00:30:03,119 --> 00:30:04,880 lose his name. He's a bit of a younger player too. There's another 464 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:11,119 guy like that I think is reasonable comparison there too. Tanner is, Yeah, 465 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:15,400 Mario Parl I think maybe something along those lines too. Their Tanner is 466 00:30:15,559 --> 00:30:18,720 He's just always been about the mobility. He's been an unbelievable skater for a 467 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,880 long time. I've posted videos on him on my profile where I just go, 468 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:23,640 I wish every player skated like this, especially from the back end. 469 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:27,559 He was breaking through layers and busting through layers in his first year in the 470 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:32,079 WHL as well, so he was already out skating guys. That is not 471 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:36,319 an issue for him. So he's a transition player though, like he's a 472 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:40,079 There's some guys where you go where when you interview them, they go, 473 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:41,680 yeah, I played forward up until three years ago, and now I'm a 474 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:45,720 defenseman, and you can see that in their processing when they go to me. 475 00:30:45,799 --> 00:30:49,960 Tanner is a defenseman who's played defense and is now continuing to evolve, 476 00:30:51,119 --> 00:30:53,960 like how what do I do in these situations when I'm off the rush trying 477 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:57,440 to create offense. I think there's people that were always wondering if there was 478 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,640 We're going to see more and more offense out of him. But the offense 479 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:04,599 I think comes from just smart puck movement and transition play. His defense is 480 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,960 a lot there too. Even in the playoffs the Slash year against Bidard, 481 00:31:08,079 --> 00:31:11,759 he was the one player that I think bar really didn't want to go one 482 00:31:11,799 --> 00:31:15,319 on one and with and he was going into the zone because Tanner can adjust 483 00:31:15,599 --> 00:31:18,519 in his feet to players like him. He's probably the one on the blades 484 00:31:18,519 --> 00:31:22,839 that kind of gave Connor the most fits, and so he's quick to adjust. 485 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,759 He's very fast, he's really good on his edges. His defensive game 486 00:31:26,839 --> 00:31:30,240 is a lot more about positioning. He is a little bit he is decently 487 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,039 physical, like it's it can still grow to like it's not bad. It's 488 00:31:33,079 --> 00:31:37,319 just Tanner as a guy where you look at the guys that the types of 489 00:31:37,319 --> 00:31:41,720 defenseman over the years that Nashville has liked to develop, and they've all been 490 00:31:41,759 --> 00:31:45,759 really excellent skaters, and so he's another one with that kind of upside. 491 00:31:45,799 --> 00:31:49,759 So somewhere in that Ferraro to nic Letty thing, I think is a really 492 00:31:49,839 --> 00:31:55,440 nice comparison. I had Tanner anywhere and that I figured anywhere from thirty to 493 00:31:55,599 --> 00:31:57,599 forty, So it was a little bit maybe a little literally, but the 494 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:01,799 reality is like when you look at the defenseman here. His skating is just 495 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,599 that's going to be the element that makes him play in the NHL. And 496 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,480 so he already has that, he already has, the how he already has, 497 00:32:08,559 --> 00:32:14,119 He's already a smart positional defensive player. He already battles and he and 498 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,160 he already knows how to transition the puck. So all that stuff is in 499 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:20,519 order than the rest. The upside is just going to come from adding those 500 00:32:20,559 --> 00:32:25,000 extra elements to his game. Very good. Let's take a brief break, 501 00:32:25,039 --> 00:32:30,240 come back, and we're going to talk some more WHL prospects from the draft. 502 00:32:39,359 --> 00:32:45,720 Back to talk about the thirty third overall selection, Miko Miatovich. He 503 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:49,720 is a winger drafted by Anaheim way before I was led to believe he was 504 00:32:49,759 --> 00:32:52,240 going to be drafted. He had sixty points and sixty eight games with the 505 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:57,039 Seattle Thunderbirds, by the way, an interesting team. We'll talk about at 506 00:32:57,119 --> 00:33:00,640 least one more player from there today. Mitch Brown's stats raided out his defense 507 00:33:00,759 --> 00:33:04,839 much better than his offense. I guess. In terms of his game, 508 00:33:05,319 --> 00:33:08,519 I guess Anaheim probably needs to focus on winners at this point. They've already 509 00:33:08,559 --> 00:33:14,519 got a bunch of centers. McTavish and Zegris and now and now they add 510 00:33:14,559 --> 00:33:16,599 Carlson to that mix. They've got a lot of big defenseman come in in. 511 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:21,960 Some wingers might have some value, though. Was Metovich the right one 512 00:33:22,039 --> 00:33:24,240 and is he going to get deployment with one of those big centers in the 513 00:33:24,279 --> 00:33:30,000 top six in Anaheim someday? I don't. I'm not sure where I think 514 00:33:30,079 --> 00:33:34,839 he's a top nine player. I've just always referenced him as a guy that 515 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:38,359 plays, and that was like the starting point of it all. Nico. 516 00:33:38,559 --> 00:33:43,960 He played in the WHL playoffs last year against big, strong teams as a 517 00:33:44,039 --> 00:33:47,519 young player, and he earned more ice time in every playoff game. He 518 00:33:47,599 --> 00:33:51,000 was one of those guys where you were just like once again, at five 519 00:33:51,039 --> 00:33:53,799 on five, he's driving possession of the zone. He's playing hard on the 520 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:58,480 edges. He's being hard to knock off the puck. He's really extending his 521 00:33:58,519 --> 00:34:00,680 reach using his body well and his frame. He does not give up the 522 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:05,200 puck easily. He's always pressuring the puck on like in the offense. He 523 00:34:05,279 --> 00:34:07,880 skates very well. He has very long strides, and so he's a player 524 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,599 that loves to get in on the four check at five on five. He's 525 00:34:10,599 --> 00:34:14,159 a guy that you can put on the penalty kill. He's a very versatile 526 00:34:14,199 --> 00:34:17,960 type guy. Like I've always said, there are guys that come into the 527 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:22,400 league where maybe they don't have the fanfare and maybe they don't even get drafted, 528 00:34:22,639 --> 00:34:24,679 and then they slowly work their way up through the AHL system and you 529 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:29,280 go, man, this guy's out working everybody. He's earning these minutes, 530 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,000 and then they end up being that third liner that you go, man, 531 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:36,880 And I think that they're starting to really get a bit more of those value 532 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:40,559 in that those types of players, like the guys that just they outwork everybody 533 00:34:40,599 --> 00:34:44,000 on the ice and you watch them and you go, how do you not 534 00:34:44,119 --> 00:34:46,519 like this guy? And it was a little bit before I thought he was 535 00:34:46,519 --> 00:34:49,719 going to go too, but I wondered if a team was going to reach 536 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:53,000 on him too. And when you're collecting all of that kind of skill players, 537 00:34:53,559 --> 00:34:58,280 Nico is one of those guys where you go, these players are very 538 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,800 valuable too, and you need these guys, and we've seen them at different 539 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:05,039 times in the NHL be really coveted. Like I think someone like a Blake 540 00:35:05,159 --> 00:35:08,239 Coleman, that type of player makes sense for someone like Nico, where you 541 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:13,480 go, man, our team could really use a guy like this, A 542 00:35:13,519 --> 00:35:16,159 guy that is big and hard to play at a part against five on five, 543 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:21,880 loves to grind it out in the playoff games, like he did a 544 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,599 lot of really wonderful things in Seattle. He's not the most He's not as 545 00:35:25,079 --> 00:35:29,639 talented of a goalscorer as Gunther or the natural center, all of those sorts 546 00:35:29,639 --> 00:35:34,679 of things, but he's that guy that outworks everybody. And I think he's 547 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,239 a guy that's still tapping into his young potential. And so if he ends 548 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:40,599 up being a third liner in the NHL, he's a third liner that you 549 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:45,639 love because of what he does on your third line, and if he excels 550 00:35:45,679 --> 00:35:50,039 beyond that, it's because he earned it, and so I don't necessarily want 551 00:35:50,039 --> 00:35:52,679 to put a ceiling on him. I think he's probably him in a middle 552 00:35:52,679 --> 00:35:55,320 sixer and maybe a third liner that you love that plays PK and finds a 553 00:35:55,400 --> 00:36:00,199 role on the power play maybe that front. But I just I love the 554 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:04,119 player, and I think it's a really cool player to fit into that mixture 555 00:36:04,159 --> 00:36:12,199 for Anaheim. Nice love it. The next guy is probably the most divisive 556 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,199 prospect that a lot of us talked about all year. You already know who 557 00:36:15,199 --> 00:36:20,360 I'm going to talk about. That's Andrew Christal. He went fortieth. A 558 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:27,440 lot of US Fantasy rankers have him in the top fifteen because his offense is 559 00:36:27,599 --> 00:36:31,800 pretty undeniable, but he's definitely has other aspects to his game. I guess 560 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:36,039 you could say on skill alone, he's probably one of the top in the 561 00:36:36,119 --> 00:36:39,480 draft, but I guess there's inconsistencies. There's the below average size, there's 562 00:36:39,519 --> 00:36:44,239 the skating issue. If you look at his equivalency, though he's got some 563 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:50,639 pretty awesome comps someone like Cole Perfetti, which probably not like hands wise, 564 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,960 but how you think and see the game maybe similar. But I also just 565 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:59,519 saw on Twitter that Washington, as we're recording this a sign him to his 566 00:36:59,519 --> 00:37:05,360 ELC, which seems interesting, especially for a fortieth overall pick. Surprising, 567 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,320 but I think they got a gem. I think that he has a lot 568 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:13,639 of upside. Tell us what you think about Andrew Cristal Jill. Yeah, 569 00:37:13,639 --> 00:37:16,559 I'm not surprised that Crystal signed his ELC, just simply because you know what 570 00:37:16,599 --> 00:37:21,119 the player is. It's not his offense, it's not if it isn't going 571 00:37:21,159 --> 00:37:24,559 to translate you'll find out, but there's no way, there's zero chance I'm 572 00:37:24,559 --> 00:37:29,519 ever not signing him to an ELC. Like so, if you want to 573 00:37:29,519 --> 00:37:31,840 get it over with, get it over with early. But like you said, 574 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:36,199 the thing about Crystal is that at this point in time, he's not 575 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:40,039 a very good two hundred foot player, and so you have to take the 576 00:37:40,199 --> 00:37:44,920 ups with the downs. There's a reason that Johnny Goudreau was a fourth round 577 00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,559 pick. There's a reason that all these different times these guys slip. It 578 00:37:47,679 --> 00:37:52,599 is a copycat league, and people are looking at the especially the playoffs even 579 00:37:52,599 --> 00:37:54,480 this year, and how big it was on defense, how hard it was 580 00:37:54,519 --> 00:37:59,920 to get past those guys. How up front there's loaded talent loaded with side 581 00:38:00,119 --> 00:38:07,280 the matthew to Chucks for the difference makers, and Crystal is from the red 582 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:13,800 line in Crystal is as dangerous as anybody. He's so unbelievably smart his passing 583 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:15,400 and the way that he can manipulate play. He's very fast, he's very 584 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:20,480 quick to react. His shot is very sneaky. He knows how to get 585 00:38:20,519 --> 00:38:23,760 to the space to shoot. Rather than like his shot being elite, he 586 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:30,320 just he's just a very high high IQ player. So he figures it out, 587 00:38:30,639 --> 00:38:34,039 and he doesn't have the escapabil that he is somebody like Johnny Coodrow is. 588 00:38:34,079 --> 00:38:37,480 He's not the natural guy that continues to open up space for those kinds 589 00:38:37,519 --> 00:38:40,280 of players. I think he's a guy that naturally fits in the NHL. 590 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:45,239 Is more of a down low player on the power play. Like there were 591 00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:51,280 games with Colonna where Colonna was basically using Gabriel Shoots as the transition player. 592 00:38:51,639 --> 00:38:54,239 So Gabriel was doing the heavy lifting in five on five like Download, the 593 00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:58,719 defensive zone, Andrew was cheating a little bit out. They would transition the 594 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,719 puck out and then once they got there to the center ice, then all 595 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:07,079 bets are off. And so now you've got Crystal in his offensive zone, 596 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,119 so you can drive the middle and have shoots drive the middle heavy towards a 597 00:39:10,199 --> 00:39:15,039 net. Crystal can delay slip more into the slot and then try to find 598 00:39:15,039 --> 00:39:19,800 a shooting angle or passing angle. I've seen Andrew Crystal have the worst game 599 00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:23,960 I've ever seen Andrew Crystal have, and he's still got two goals because he 600 00:39:24,039 --> 00:39:30,440 was very ineffective for pretty much most of the game. He wasn't battling Download 601 00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:32,960 defensively. They were really pinned in their zone against bigger, better teams for 602 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:37,440 the most of the zone, but then when he got an opportunity to score, 603 00:39:37,559 --> 00:39:40,199 he did. And so it's a very you have to take the ups 604 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:45,119 with the downs there. As far as fantasy is concerned, he should go 605 00:39:45,159 --> 00:39:47,360 a lot higher than he did in this actual draft because the guy's going to 606 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:52,360 put up points. But it's then it comes down to about upside and stuff 607 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:53,639 too, Right, So like I used to talk about the I think there 608 00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:58,960 was one time I talked about the Seth Jarvist to Johnny Goodreau range. I 609 00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:00,159 don't think he's at the Johnny Jeor range. I don't think he has that 610 00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:08,199 escapability. But I think we've seen a player that's not too dissimilar from Crystal 611 00:40:08,199 --> 00:40:14,679 as well. Everything went terribly. He could be where Kayla Yamamoto is right 612 00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:16,559 now, you know what I mean. So that's the danger of it. 613 00:40:17,119 --> 00:40:24,519 But the upside is point per game winger, So it's it's a big swing. 614 00:40:24,599 --> 00:40:28,239 There's a lot of teams that just go, we love the player, 615 00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,320 we love what he does, we love all this stuff about him. We're 616 00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,599 just going to build our team a little bit differently. And so he ends 617 00:40:32,639 --> 00:40:37,159 up falling, but eventually you just go, we've got to take him because 618 00:40:37,199 --> 00:40:38,960 he's going to outscore a lot of guys that he was taken in front of. 619 00:40:39,119 --> 00:40:43,639 He's just really fun. But you need the pieces around him. You 620 00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,679 need a hard matchup two way center with him, a dominant two way center 621 00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:51,480 to balance the scales a bit more, and then preferably you need but a 622 00:40:51,599 --> 00:40:54,000 more complimentary two way guy on the other wing too to get the best out 623 00:40:54,039 --> 00:41:00,559 of him and really figure that out. Now we're about halfway through the second 624 00:41:00,639 --> 00:41:05,000 round in terms of NHL picks and forty sixth overall went kle and Lynn, 625 00:41:05,039 --> 00:41:08,760 brother of Cole Barry Trots, reached back into the WHL in the second round 626 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:15,199 again for this physical winger playing in Red Deer, he averaged. Lynde did 627 00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,960 more than a point per game In his third year in the WHL. He 628 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:22,320 had forty four points in forty three games. But the buzz seems to be 629 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:28,039 maybe not as much offensive upside there as one would hope. I don't know, 630 00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:31,920 is Lynda bottom six NHLLER? Something better? Something less than that? 631 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:37,320 What is your take on Lynchell? Lynde's an interesting kid. He's always been, 632 00:41:37,559 --> 00:41:39,440 even in junior and like down through U fifteen and stuff, he was 633 00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:44,559 super dominant. The Saskatchewan kid just put up nothing but points. He was 634 00:41:44,559 --> 00:41:46,960 always big, fast off the rush, really nice hands. I think, 635 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:52,840 as he found in the WHL, his finesse in motion worked a little less 636 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,000 than he was hoping that it would. Sometimes guys would poke pucks away from 637 00:41:55,039 --> 00:42:00,199 those sorts of things. He just in those kind of situations there, it 638 00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,239 was still a work in progress. And I think to the credit and I've 639 00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:06,800 given them credit pretty much all year on this, most players are the same 640 00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,760 player as they are all throughout their time. There's not a lot of players 641 00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:15,559 that really change a lot of their game to be pros. And one of 642 00:42:15,599 --> 00:42:17,880 the things that Red Deer does really well with their players is they do they 643 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:22,679 prepare their players to be, to try to be more well rounded players. 644 00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:27,480 Like I think in Red Deer they're learning a lot of what guys learn in 645 00:42:27,519 --> 00:42:32,400 the AHL. And so Lynd is that guy who he went from like that 646 00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:37,760 rush player to like being a very particular kind of role player. He changed 647 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:39,559 his game this year. He was heavier on the four check, he was 648 00:42:39,679 --> 00:42:44,159 hitting way more often and then on the power player than even at five and 649 00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,239 five, he was playing a lot more net front and down low. So 650 00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:51,400 he was playing that Matthew to Chuck kind of role where he's jam and pucks, 651 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,519 trying to put things between his legs, uses finesse to use his skill, 652 00:42:53,599 --> 00:42:58,800 his length in those kinds of ways. So he became a player that 653 00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,199 is like already starting to work on the path that he could be in the 654 00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:06,599 NHL, which is a net front, side of the net, big body 655 00:43:06,639 --> 00:43:09,840 player. Thomas Holmstrom like that the archetype of whatever. There's not a lot 656 00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:14,079 of guys that come into the NHL going I really want to be in front 657 00:43:14,079 --> 00:43:15,360 of the net, be the net front guy. There's a lot of guys 658 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:19,199 that are like, I want to earn that slot shot, I want to 659 00:43:19,199 --> 00:43:22,679 earn that playmaker on the half wall role. Kalon lynd Is, he's that 660 00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,239 guy that's already been like, give me that role, and so I think 661 00:43:25,559 --> 00:43:29,719 there's versatility with him in that. I think if once again, I think 662 00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:32,880 if he ends up being a third liner who plays the net front on your 663 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:36,440 second power player or maybe in your first power play if you need him to 664 00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:38,159 do, I think that'll all makes sense. There. There's still more upside 665 00:43:38,159 --> 00:43:40,440 there there's still more stuff to get in. But he's heavy. He's a 666 00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:44,960 heavy player. He plays heavy, he hits hard. He's that guy that, 667 00:43:45,039 --> 00:43:47,159 once again, like when if you see him down the road, team's 668 00:43:47,199 --> 00:43:52,280 acquiring him for his nationale down the road gets a decent return on him because 669 00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,519 some team is just coveting what he brings for a playoff roster. Like, 670 00:43:55,599 --> 00:43:59,079 he's that kind of guy as well, if we're talking fantasy, he'll get 671 00:43:59,159 --> 00:44:01,639 hits and shots and NetFront and all sorts of penalty minutes and all that's kind 672 00:44:01,639 --> 00:44:05,239 of stuff too. So he's a guy that once again, there were two 673 00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:08,000 players I think in this draft that I go they're gonna play. I would 674 00:44:08,119 --> 00:44:10,800 just I just think they're going to play because they're carving out the kind of 675 00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:15,440 rules to play. And that's my Adovic and Lynd, and I ended up 676 00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:19,800 having them pretty much back to back on my board. But they're if you're 677 00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,639 wanting to swing and you're hoping on the upside, you're hoping on all these 678 00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:24,280 kinds of things or whatever. I think if you take Callen LND, I 679 00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:32,239 think you get a player definitely. All right, let's talk about Lucas Drega 680 00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:37,800 Sevage fifty seventh. Overall, very I think another Christall is the most divisive 681 00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:44,440 forward prospect. Drega Sevac is probably the most avisive defensive easily if you want 682 00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:46,800 to call him a defenseman, which I think is debatable, but anyways, 683 00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:54,519 he man. Offense is definitely his forte and a converted forward for recently converted 684 00:44:54,559 --> 00:44:58,639 forward. When the puck's on his dick, he is super fun to watch 685 00:44:58,639 --> 00:45:01,119 and put up a ton of points. This kind of production seventy five points 686 00:45:01,119 --> 00:45:05,360 in sixty eight games or tricity was incredible, and I know we've heard from 687 00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:07,320 people who say that, like the offense basically ran through him, and he 688 00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:10,400 was able to do what he wants and that's going to help you put up 689 00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:14,519 a lot of questions. And when you look at him as his equivalency, 690 00:45:14,559 --> 00:45:20,320 there are literally four players that have the same equivalency as he did, and 691 00:45:20,599 --> 00:45:24,360 three of them are basically superstars are Hall of famers and Paul Coffee, Rasmustelian 692 00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:29,480 and Zach Warenski, which are like ridiculous and all way better skaters than him. 693 00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:32,960 And then there's Zach Bogosian. Okay, maybe that's a more reasonable likely 694 00:45:34,039 --> 00:45:37,880 outcome, but Yeah, I think that's the big question, is this skating 695 00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:42,320 good enough? Can he actually defend well enough? Because I think in Mitch 696 00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:46,119 Brown's tracking data he rated out as a fourteenth percentile defender, which seems almost 697 00:45:46,159 --> 00:45:51,360 generous. So let us know what you think about him, Joe Lucas Dragasevich 698 00:45:51,519 --> 00:45:57,119 who ended up going to Seattle, so that's fifty seventh overall. Yeah, 699 00:45:57,159 --> 00:46:00,119 I think he once again he became a really curious aspect and people started to 700 00:46:00,159 --> 00:46:04,519 talk about him a lot, and so I think things like Mitch's data on 701 00:46:04,599 --> 00:46:07,519 him, I think it paint him in a correct position, and I don't 702 00:46:07,559 --> 00:46:09,360 think he's unaware of that. Like you said, he's a guy that the 703 00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:15,280 offense completely flowed through, especially the power play, like he was making all 704 00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,400 of the decisions from the point he was waiting until he had shot lanes in 705 00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:21,679 front. And the way that Tricity kind of goes to Tri City is a 706 00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:25,320 dump and chase heavy, pound the net, get shots through, really look 707 00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:30,440 for secondary efforts. Everyone crashed the net, so he's getting quality shots through 708 00:46:30,559 --> 00:46:35,400 on the net and then they're burying rebounds with some of their bigger forwards too, 709 00:46:35,599 --> 00:46:37,360 So he was just able to rack up points, especially on the power 710 00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:42,239 play. And yeah, he's a converted forward. He's only been playing defense 711 00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:45,519 for three years. The way that he plays his style of defense is he's 712 00:46:45,559 --> 00:46:47,920 just he's in the gaps, and so he's learning how to be more physical. 713 00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:52,159 He's learning how to like to play more. He's sometimes it just looks 714 00:46:52,199 --> 00:46:54,440 really easy. There's times when he goes down to block a shot lane and 715 00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:59,280 he's taking a knee. There's so much growth that has to happen in his 716 00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:00,960 game. Like the one things the people that I've referred to him as we've 717 00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:07,000 seen players like this, the Ryan Merkley's, the Jeremy Poirier's, the Oliver 718 00:47:07,079 --> 00:47:10,800 Shillington's, like these kinds of offensive dynamos that like, especially with Shillington and 719 00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:14,400 Pourier and some of the other guys, you go like, how did they 720 00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:16,159 fall? They have stuff to work on him. And for Shillington, it 721 00:47:16,159 --> 00:47:20,599 took him a number of years in the NHL to be able to get his 722 00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:22,599 game and to play it in the way that he wanted to as a Rover, 723 00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:27,039 to get to the NHL to play the way that he wanted to and 724 00:47:27,079 --> 00:47:30,079 have that opportunity. One of the guys that I've said, I think the 725 00:47:30,119 --> 00:47:36,599 best way that you can understand Lucas Dragasevic is Eric Gustafson. Eric Gustofson has 726 00:47:36,599 --> 00:47:39,960 a sixty point season in the NHL, and Eric Gustofson has been a healthy 727 00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:45,440 scratch for a lot of teams, and he can go from it from absolutely 728 00:47:45,519 --> 00:47:49,079 manning the power play and being the best option on your team to do that, 729 00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:52,239 and then he gets traded to the Leafs and he's a healthy scratch in 730 00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:55,039 the playoffs. That's the kind of player I think Dragon Sevic is and it's 731 00:47:55,199 --> 00:47:59,320 because of his defense, and his future in the NHL is not going to 732 00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:04,639 be about him improving his offensive game. It is entirely about how far his 733 00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,719 defense can come. Because as he moves up through the system in Seattle, 734 00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:12,639 he'll get opportunities on the power playing in the AHL, he'll get the opportunities 735 00:48:12,679 --> 00:48:16,519 to really prove himself there. But it's going to be about that defensive work, 736 00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:21,440 and I don't think Seattle's unaware of that. So Seattle is just basically 737 00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:22,719 going, we know who you are, and we're going to get you to 738 00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:27,239 you can have a shot at being a really good pro for us in a 739 00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:29,920 very particular role. So I like to fit from the team, to be 740 00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,239 honest, But Dragisvik has always been a little risky, and so when people 741 00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:37,480 want to say he's fifteenth eight, however high on the board, that's you 742 00:48:37,639 --> 00:48:42,960 betting on Lucas coming a long way. But to his credit too, he's 743 00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:45,639 not a defenseman who's been playing defense his whole life. If he was and 744 00:48:45,639 --> 00:48:49,639 this is the way he played defense, i'd be very worried. But he's 745 00:48:49,639 --> 00:48:51,920 still really young in it, and he's still learned. He did get better 746 00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:52,800 at it this year. That's the one thing that I have to say. 747 00:48:53,039 --> 00:48:55,000 At the start of the year, it was very hard to watch, Like 748 00:48:55,039 --> 00:48:59,719 you said that the generosity of it. He is getting better, but it's 749 00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:04,360 still a long ways off. This is the concern I have. I have 750 00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:10,559 him ranked fairly high in the fantasy ranks just because he does have crazy high 751 00:49:10,599 --> 00:49:15,079 upside, but I still only ranked him thirty one because of all the things 752 00:49:15,079 --> 00:49:19,559 that he needs to do. So that's really the questions. There's obviously volatility 753 00:49:20,039 --> 00:49:24,960 to his projection, but is the high so high because it's so enough, 754 00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:29,519 like you said, Eric Gustopson, So yeah, sixty points season, but 755 00:49:29,559 --> 00:49:31,679 there's just so much that has to happen, and I think that's what people 756 00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:37,079 need to be aware of. There's a long road, and sure there's a 757 00:49:37,079 --> 00:49:38,559 lot of progression that all these players need to make, but it seems like 758 00:49:38,599 --> 00:49:43,679 that's just more substantial for drag Savage. Yeah, I think just for a 759 00:49:43,679 --> 00:49:46,119 player like that, I think it's fantasy owners, aren't you, Like they're 760 00:49:46,119 --> 00:49:50,639 not unaware of those types of volatile players, right that, Like when it 761 00:49:50,639 --> 00:49:53,079 comes to a draft and Eric Asilson's just put up sixty points in a season 762 00:49:53,079 --> 00:49:57,119 and you go like, how high do I take him? Like? It 763 00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:00,079 makes you still makes you nervous, Like the whole Shane Gosses spare when he's 764 00:50:00,119 --> 00:50:04,760 moved around different teams, You're like, how high? Right? So there's 765 00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,800 always the risk with those kinds of players. Shane was a guy that's really 766 00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:09,760 figured it out long term. But the reality is like, is there a 767 00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:14,639 world where Lucas gets to the NHL and he really never quite figures out how 768 00:50:14,639 --> 00:50:16,840 to be an everyday player and teams don't really trust him down the line? 769 00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:21,119 Yeah? Is there a world where he ends up being a power play quarterback 770 00:50:21,159 --> 00:50:24,280 in a really effective generator of offense at the NHL level and like a passable 771 00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:29,119 defensive player. Yep. So there's it's just the volatility of that and it's 772 00:50:29,159 --> 00:50:31,679 but it's just it's going to come in his defensive journey. All right, 773 00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:37,639 let's talk about Grayson's sautch in the sixty third overall pick. I said there 774 00:50:37,679 --> 00:50:42,320 would be another Seattle thunderbird, and that's who Grayson is. And he got 775 00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:45,559 about as far of a commute from his home office as he possibly could have 776 00:50:45,599 --> 00:50:49,760 gotten playing in Seattle. But he's going to be with the mothership in Florida 777 00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:53,320 in Miami playing for the Panthers Centerman. The draft folks I follow seemed to 778 00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:59,639 think that his slipping this far was highway robbery, that he was more qualified 779 00:50:59,679 --> 00:51:02,880 than sixty third overall prospect. He was a point per game in the WHL 780 00:51:04,039 --> 00:51:07,599 last year after a lower point pays the year prior. On the US national 781 00:51:07,639 --> 00:51:12,239 team development program. I read that he's got a lot of want in his 782 00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:15,920 game, Joel, that he's somebody who's a hustler. He plays really hard, 783 00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:21,559 and some say they've seen some offensive flashes too from mister Sachin. Is 784 00:51:21,599 --> 00:51:24,800 he over under a middle sixer for Florida some day? Where do you see 785 00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:29,199 in his game? Yeah, I think he's a middle sixer. He's one 786 00:51:29,199 --> 00:51:32,039 of those guys that I was actually more I'm more inclined to put him as 787 00:51:32,159 --> 00:51:36,079 to slot him as there's a higher upside to be a second line player, 788 00:51:36,119 --> 00:51:38,199 I think for me to be in to actually play in that top six and 789 00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:43,440 be a top six winger. I really liked this player and I was really 790 00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:45,960 surprised that he slipped too. He was probably the one guy that I said, 791 00:51:46,039 --> 00:51:49,840 I think everybody's really low on. There's some people that worried about he's 792 00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:51,880 skating, and they worried about other kind of things. I don't know. 793 00:51:52,119 --> 00:51:53,880 For some reason, I just think that people were point watching. If you 794 00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:58,840 watch Seattle, like he just didn't get any of the prime opportunities and he's 795 00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:02,280 not in a prime position and where he gets to just like Trounce up points 796 00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:07,119 as well. Like he's a guy that is a natural playmaker from the half 797 00:52:07,119 --> 00:52:10,360 wall. But they had him playing NetFront on the power play at different times 798 00:52:10,559 --> 00:52:14,440 and he was excelling at that. He's getting rebounds, getting him back to 799 00:52:14,519 --> 00:52:17,199 the point, really using his agility very well. And he's a smart player. 800 00:52:17,199 --> 00:52:21,280 He's an adaptable player the big The one thing that I actually heard him 801 00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:23,400 say in an interview too that I was like, bang on and I love 802 00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:27,480 that self awareness from players, is he said, I think the one thing 803 00:52:27,519 --> 00:52:30,639 that gives me in a bit of advantage against everybody else as some of the 804 00:52:30,679 --> 00:52:34,719 guys that maybe are kind of players like me, I don't mind being physical, 805 00:52:35,119 --> 00:52:37,920 and he doesn't. And the thing is, not only does he It's 806 00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:40,719 not aggressive physicality, it's what you want. It's in those moments where you 807 00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:45,119 need that separation. When he sees that moment to separate, I've got tons 808 00:52:45,119 --> 00:52:50,039 and tons of clips on him where he's bumping defenseman and pushing them off their 809 00:52:50,079 --> 00:52:53,239 stride before the puck is coming. He's preemptively doing this to create space. 810 00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:55,639 He knows how to do it under pressure, he knows how to do it 811 00:52:55,639 --> 00:52:58,800 with the puck on his stick. He knows how to do it before the 812 00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:01,480 puck gets to him. There's so much of his well roundedness of his game 813 00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:06,079 that it's like he's one of those he's I would say he's probably the most 814 00:53:06,159 --> 00:53:10,559 versatile player in this draft where I go, he is one of those middle 815 00:53:10,599 --> 00:53:15,079 sixers where you go, we can use him in about as many ways as 816 00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:21,239 possible, and he just continues to find reasons to be good value for us, 817 00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:22,880 Like there is this is me and my names and stuff, but the 818 00:53:23,079 --> 00:53:30,239 player for Seattle that came from Tampa Bay Board. Yeah yeah, So to 819 00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:34,119 me that he's a player of that archetype. And I think one guy will 820 00:53:34,119 --> 00:53:36,519 talk about as well as Riley Hights a bit more of that in him. 821 00:53:36,639 --> 00:53:39,599 It's just Yanny Gord has just proven that, and Sauchin is a bigger version 822 00:53:39,679 --> 00:53:43,519 of him, I think. And so Yanny Gord can play up and down 823 00:53:43,559 --> 00:53:45,920 your lineup. He can slot into all sorts of different ways, and you're 824 00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:49,639 never unhappy with a Yanny Gordon your roster. And I think that's what Grayson 825 00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:52,159 Sauchin is. And like I think about some of the other players that might 826 00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:57,119 have a bit more finesse, they've been able to get into better positionings. 827 00:53:57,119 --> 00:54:00,039 Like I think Florida has a player that's leg Sauchin in Maki Samaskevitch. But 828 00:54:00,079 --> 00:54:02,719 I actually I had some people gasp at me, but I actually think that 829 00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:07,559 Sachin has a better chance of making it than Samaskevitch does too. And I 830 00:54:07,599 --> 00:54:09,159 think they got a great player, and it just shows how deep this draft 831 00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:14,639 is that somebody like Sauchen can really fall Like Sachin was playing seventeen eighteen minutes 832 00:54:14,679 --> 00:54:17,239 against the Winnipeg matching up really night in and night out in ways that they 833 00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:21,480 wanted him to. I think you're going to see such take that next step 834 00:54:21,519 --> 00:54:23,480 and really explode this year in the WHL, now that some of the other 835 00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:27,559 guys have moved on and he's going to be a guy that's relied on with 836 00:54:27,599 --> 00:54:30,239 the puck, watch for him to take another step in his development, like 837 00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:34,920 a he's not a point per game player in the WHL, He's gonna he's 838 00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:37,199 gonna rise into that one point three year above I would I would expect. 839 00:54:39,039 --> 00:54:43,880 Yeah, he's someone that I'm banking on next year. Yeah, multiplying that 840 00:54:44,039 --> 00:54:47,119 by a significant margin when he gets more opportunity. Yeah. There's a lot 841 00:54:47,159 --> 00:54:50,360 of guys in here, and especially for fantasy too, there's a lot of 842 00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:52,559 good players in this mix, and that's kind of thing. But if you're 843 00:54:52,559 --> 00:54:53,880 in a points league, I think there's a point in time where Sauchin really 844 00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:57,480 has to rise up higher. But just from a team perspective too, Like 845 00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:00,960 I talk about his physicality, the way he can play multiple Asians and playing 846 00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:02,480 your bottom six, kill penalties, all sorts of things like he's just such 847 00:55:02,519 --> 00:55:07,320 a verse at all player. For sure, he felt the love at the 848 00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:10,199 draft. I think he called out some of the scouts in particular and said, 849 00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:13,920 thanks for believing in me, because I know that it's got to be 850 00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:16,880 hard when you see yourself falling that much and you know you can you're a 851 00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:21,199 good player. But he's got a good attitude too, and so the next 852 00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:23,840 guy I want to talk about it. He went right after Height, sixty 853 00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:28,199 fourth overall, right after Sauch and Riley Height is what I'm trying to say, 854 00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:31,119 And he's the one who I think in terms of the production was one 855 00:55:31,159 --> 00:55:35,639 of the biggest surprises. I think in terms of how far he fell Riley 856 00:55:35,679 --> 00:55:39,760 heights sixty fourth overall to Minnesota, Minnesota's amazing prospect pool, just it's even 857 00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:45,800 deeper. With a really awesome player and his equivalence. He puts him in 858 00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:51,599 the conversation with a lot of really talented Nhler's super high upside. I would 859 00:55:51,599 --> 00:55:54,320 say, I don't know that he looks like any of these players that I 860 00:55:54,400 --> 00:56:00,840 have equivalences for, But Alex Tangey Nazim Kadri Right, and Shanahan. Probably 861 00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:06,440 not stylistically like any of those guys, but those are the kinds of equivalences 862 00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:09,480 that he has. I guess the biggest concern with Height that I've read is 863 00:56:09,519 --> 00:56:15,320 that some of his production might not be pro translatable is the issue. But 864 00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:19,000 I don't know what are your thoughts on Riley Hight because he seems like a 865 00:56:19,079 --> 00:56:22,159 high upside kind of guy. That's interesting that you brought up Alex Tangey, 866 00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:28,119 because to be honest, I would I think I think that's the direction that 867 00:56:28,159 --> 00:56:31,159 I would naturally push Riley Moore in when it comes to the NHL. So 868 00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:35,519 Riley Height has the last number of years, he's been the ball end all 869 00:56:35,559 --> 00:56:38,679 centerman for Prince George since they when they brought in Riley and he was playing 870 00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:42,559 that first season with Cohen Ziemer. The two of them had really been growing 871 00:56:42,559 --> 00:56:45,760 together, despite Cohen being a late two thousand and four and Riley being in 872 00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:50,280 two thousand and five. But they've grown up together and they've always been playing 873 00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:52,639 together. And so Riley has been the heavy two way minutes even in his 874 00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:57,159 first season, like really dependable down low, coming deeper in the zone, 875 00:56:57,159 --> 00:57:02,039 as a defenseman, really taking his defensive responsibilities more seriously in the defensive zone. 876 00:57:02,559 --> 00:57:06,159 And then Cohen was that guy that was just like spring in the zone 877 00:57:06,199 --> 00:57:08,480 and really and so Riley was outletting to him and letting Cohen rush the pucks. 878 00:57:08,519 --> 00:57:15,159 So it was like to me, Riley heights value specifically in the offensive 879 00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:20,360 zone and creating points is his playmaking from the wing. And you could see 880 00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:22,519 that, I think, in the Top Prospect game, and you could see 881 00:57:22,519 --> 00:57:25,960 that at any international conversation that Riley ended up joining a team because as soon 882 00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:29,920 as Riley gets on that team, he transitions to the wing. They use 883 00:57:30,039 --> 00:57:31,760 him as a winger, and they use him as a playmaking winger. Riley 884 00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:36,480 has as much finessed as anyone else in this draft, as it comes from 885 00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:39,239 a playmaking war. His vision is top tier. His hands or top tier. 886 00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:44,519 He can saucer pass into lanes across zones. His playmaking as far as 887 00:57:44,559 --> 00:57:47,280 that is concerned, is easily his best element to me. But I think 888 00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:51,679 sometimes in Prince George it takes because he was a centerman and because he has 889 00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:54,199 to be for a sentiment, it takes him out of that mold. And 890 00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:59,440 so when I watch Riley as a centerman, there's some things in his game 891 00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:00,480 where I go, I wish he did this more. I wish he was 892 00:58:00,519 --> 00:58:05,559 maybe more aggressive in these moments. Riley's a very There's some guys that we've 893 00:58:05,559 --> 00:58:08,159 already talked about here too aggressive four checkers. They always apply the pressure, 894 00:58:08,199 --> 00:58:13,760 They always apply the pressure. Riley is more of a positional centermon. He 895 00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:16,400 applies the pressure when he actually he's going to make a difference. And so 896 00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:20,440 there's some moments where I've described Riley as he's as good as he wants to 897 00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:22,760 be. If Riley ended up being that guy that went one hundred percent every 898 00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:27,480 shift, every moment, he'd be a different player. But Riley's just very 899 00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:30,679 strategic. So I think if you move Riley to the way you use him 900 00:58:30,719 --> 00:58:34,079 as more of a playmaker on a line, you start to I think you 901 00:58:34,119 --> 00:58:37,599 start to get more of the upside out of him. His skating is good. 902 00:58:37,719 --> 00:58:40,920 He's got a little more in him in that regard to go to just 903 00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:44,519 in the way that he moves, but he does have a powerful stride when 904 00:58:44,519 --> 00:58:47,440 he really gets into it. And then the underrated aspect that they don't use 905 00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:50,800 a ton too is go back to a few of acts. As go back 906 00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:53,519 and watch some of Riley's goals, He's got a one time or slapper specifically 907 00:58:53,559 --> 00:58:57,800 from the right side that he does not use very often, but it's as 908 00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:00,800 effective as anybody else's. It's a way better shot than someone like Zack Benson 909 00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:05,320 per se. So he's got a ton of elements to his game, and 910 00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:07,440 I just don't I think he's a guy that, once again you can talk 911 00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:09,719 about if we need to put him at center, we do. But I 912 00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:13,519 just think if he's going to explode in the NHL, it's going to be 913 00:59:13,599 --> 00:59:16,159 as a playmaking winger and his upside is a second line playmaking weir to me 914 00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:22,559 so that true playmaking from the side Alex Tang type guy. He doesn't. 915 00:59:22,559 --> 00:59:25,079 He won't have the reach, he won't have the extension as Tange quite had 916 00:59:25,119 --> 00:59:30,880 there. But but just another kid that I'm really excited about. And I 917 00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:34,199 think his usage is going to shift from junior to the pro level too, 918 00:59:34,239 --> 00:59:37,280 So very high intelligent player. I saw some stuff on Twitter as well. 919 00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:42,159 I think I retweeted it of something from that his dad was saying, and 920 00:59:42,239 --> 00:59:45,599 it just his dad was essentially like commenting about how thankful they are how hard 921 00:59:45,599 --> 00:59:49,800 of a road it is to get to the NHL. There's so many guys 922 00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:53,039 that you know that Riley's played with for years and years who wish they were 923 00:59:53,039 --> 00:59:55,920 in a spot that teams were considering them to be drafted. It just came 924 00:59:55,960 --> 01:00:00,159 from this thankful mentality, and I was like, I don't know, I 925 01:00:00,239 --> 01:00:02,559 love to hear that stuff from families, just being like, we're so thankful 926 01:00:02,719 --> 01:00:07,039 or whatever. Let's get to work, let's keep going. I think Riley 927 01:00:07,119 --> 01:00:09,920 going at the end of the second round is another You got value there for 928 01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:15,960 sure. Number seventy eight. Oh where'd you by the way, where'd you 929 01:00:16,039 --> 01:00:22,320 go to Florida? Oh wait, no, Minnesota? Minnesota? Yeah, 930 01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:28,760 yeah, that's just value. Yeah, all right. At number seventy eight. 931 01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:32,599 Joel cohen Ziemer, he was with Prince George last year. The right 932 01:00:32,639 --> 01:00:37,079 winger put up forty one goals, forty eight assists eighty nine points in sixty 933 01:00:37,119 --> 01:00:40,440 eight games. That was his fourth year in the WHL, or at least 934 01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:44,519 his fourth year that he put on a jersey. A couple of those were 935 01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:49,119 fairly truncated, and his production was fifth among the twenty twenty three ers in 936 01:00:49,159 --> 01:00:52,280 the dub last year and ninth overall scoring in the league, another guy who 937 01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:57,920 dropped way below he was in draft rankings, but he could do a lot 938 01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:00,599 worse than Land at LA where they're definitely is still room for productive wingers. 939 01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:05,199 The book on him seems to be a lot of willingness for physicality, some 940 01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:08,880 shooting process of prowess, but reports on the skating seemed to be more mixed. 941 01:01:09,039 --> 01:01:13,280 You have to let me know whether that is an accurate summary. And 942 01:01:13,559 --> 01:01:16,039 could Ziemer grab a middle six role on the kings and put up a bunch 943 01:01:16,079 --> 01:01:22,519 of points someday, Joel. Maybe he's a guy that does make me a 944 01:01:22,559 --> 01:01:24,320 little bit nervous, and I think despite the production, there's a reason why 945 01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:28,000 he fell to that range. There is even some people in the WHL that 946 01:01:28,039 --> 01:01:30,199 are like Coen Ziemer all day as a first rounder, and I just said, 947 01:01:30,559 --> 01:01:35,280 be prepared that he's gonna not go there like I thought. Maybe you'd 948 01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:37,480 see him at the end of the second round kind of thing. But to 949 01:01:37,519 --> 01:01:39,000 be honest, even then would be a little bit nervous for me as a 950 01:01:39,079 --> 01:01:43,440 scout. I think he's a third round gamble. He's that tail end of 951 01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:46,400 the offenses there. But there is some question marks as far as his skating, 952 01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:51,199 you can call him a really physical player. He's not afraid to get 953 01:01:51,239 --> 01:01:54,880 physical in those physical moments, and he is a strong kid's I would describe 954 01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:59,920 him as like bullish, especially to get to spots to shoot. He's one 955 01:01:59,920 --> 01:02:02,679 of those guys that's aggressive and he will challenge you to get to spots to 956 01:02:02,719 --> 01:02:07,760 shoot. But he does. He's not despite being I don't know, I 957 01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:09,599 think he's six feet something. He doesn't have the length of the stride to 958 01:02:09,679 --> 01:02:14,480 him, he doesn't have a really long reach to him. He's just a 959 01:02:14,519 --> 01:02:17,840 guy that constantly applies the pressure. He's a gas pedal down type player that 960 01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:22,320 when you are letting him really operate off the rush or even download a curl 961 01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:24,960 around the net and try to get to shot lanes, he's going to be 962 01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:30,719 aggressively shooting for aggressively trying to find shot angles and shot lanes. He's not 963 01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:34,719 a natural like he's. His skating kind of holds him back from being that 964 01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:38,719 aggressive, physical five on five player as well, because he doesn't. Sometimes 965 01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:43,039 they move the buck before he gets there. He's more of a Sometimes he's 966 01:02:43,079 --> 01:02:45,400 more chasing the buck than I would like as well. His value just comes 967 01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:49,679 from He's a very high IQ player and he's a guy that, like if 968 01:02:49,719 --> 01:02:52,599 you're talking about a guy that you're wanting volume shots as well, he's gonna 969 01:02:52,639 --> 01:02:54,960 shoot. He's always going to shoot. He believes in his shot, and 970 01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:59,239 he's a very good goal scorer too, Like when you get him into spots 971 01:02:59,239 --> 01:03:01,840 where like cohen Ziemer is one of those guys that can pick the short side 972 01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:06,559 up high, he can pick over the pads downlow on the side too, 973 01:03:06,599 --> 01:03:09,199 Like, he can really find his spots too. And then not only that, 974 01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:12,880 but he aggressively tries to get them, so he'll shoot for them often 975 01:03:13,159 --> 01:03:15,639 and when he does score, it's not like easy cap ins or things that 976 01:03:15,639 --> 01:03:19,599 people have really made for him. There's sometimes when he scored goals where you 977 01:03:19,639 --> 01:03:22,360 go oof, nice shot, like he really found the accuracy and part of 978 01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:25,039 it. But he's not like a guy that's firing one time or is from 979 01:03:25,119 --> 01:03:29,079 huge distance. He's trying to get in closer than he is. He's a 980 01:03:29,079 --> 01:03:30,519 bit of a risk, but he's at that tail end I think for this 981 01:03:30,599 --> 01:03:35,400 draft of like super high up fantasy guys, but he might end up being 982 01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:37,119 just a really good HL scorer. He's one of those guys. I think 983 01:03:37,119 --> 01:03:39,440 that will stay in the gaps where he might. It might take him a 984 01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:44,159 few years to find earn a shot in the NHL, but he's a guy 985 01:03:44,199 --> 01:03:45,880 that if he gets it, he'll be put in positions to be offensive and 986 01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:50,280 he'll have opportunities to do it. He might end up being like an Alex 987 01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:52,920 Barbouley, where you look at him in the HL and you go gad. 988 01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:55,519 You got to give him some chances. But there's maybe some reasons why he 989 01:03:55,599 --> 01:03:59,360 isn't earning a job over somebody else too. We'll see. He's a player 990 01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:01,239 that he's really easy to like, but there is some a little bit of 991 01:04:01,239 --> 01:04:06,599 worry that held him back. It wasn't a first rounder in this draft, 992 01:04:06,599 --> 01:04:10,719 but he was the King's first rounder in a way because even in the third 993 01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:14,239 round, he was the King's first pick. So they can call him a 994 01:04:14,239 --> 01:04:16,639 first rounder if they want to. Joel, this has been great, man. 995 01:04:17,039 --> 01:04:20,320 You always bring the heat when it comes to the WHL, and you've 996 01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:25,559 had a closer eye on these guys all year long than anybody I know. 997 01:04:26,079 --> 01:04:29,079 Let people know, man, where can they keep up with your work out 998 01:04:29,119 --> 01:04:32,000 there and just check out everything that you're doing. Yeah, So I am 999 01:04:32,039 --> 01:04:36,079 the director of Scudding Preps, So you can go to puck Preps dot com. 1000 01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:40,559 And so if you're interested in draft stuff, everything from draft eligibles down 1001 01:04:40,599 --> 01:04:44,840 to fourteen year olds who are really starting to push their way up us push 1002 01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:48,119 their way into a potential WHL draft or a year into potentially getting drafted into 1003 01:04:48,159 --> 01:04:51,679 the CHL. It's all North American based, and so if you're really loving 1004 01:04:53,079 --> 01:04:56,239 just looking into prospects and seeing what the next guys are coming. So this 1005 01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:59,840 next draft coming in is Macklin Sellabrini and I've been watching him since his fourteen 1006 01:04:59,880 --> 01:05:02,639 year days in Shattuck and it's it's a lot of information, a lot of 1007 01:05:02,679 --> 01:05:06,119 reports on a lot of players, and the subscription is not very expensive. 1008 01:05:06,159 --> 01:05:10,760 So if you're one who just loves to see what's coming in the next generations, 1009 01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:13,239 that that would be your place to go. If you're really interested in 1010 01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:15,800 the draft coverage and that kind of stuff. I can't recommend FCA Hockey more. 1011 01:05:16,079 --> 01:05:19,079 I'm one of a number of guys that is part of that team, 1012 01:05:19,159 --> 01:05:24,119 and this has been my third or fourth year with them, just doing profiles 1013 01:05:24,119 --> 01:05:30,119 and stuff on players for Western Canada. Amazing. Everybody go check out Puck 1014 01:05:30,159 --> 01:05:33,159 Preps, FCA Hockey. And thank you Joel for coming on with us today. 1015 01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:38,559 No problem. Thanks are you guys having me? Yeah? Thanks so 1016 01:05:38,639 --> 01:05:47,639 much. Well, here everybody, a couple of things to remind you of 1017 01:05:48,079 --> 01:05:50,639 before we get out of here tonight. The first one is fan tracks. 1018 01:05:50,679 --> 01:05:55,239 You should play fantasy sports and fan tracks. That's what it's there for. 1019 01:05:55,599 --> 01:05:59,519 There's ten different sports. 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