WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.240 --> 00:00:06.000 In match play, you're playing one person and you're not playing the entire field, 2 00:00:06.040 --> 00:00:09.640 and in real life that one person is old man par And if you 3 00:00:09.679 --> 00:00:13.720 can kind of have that mindset a little bit, because even when you start 4 00:00:13.759 --> 00:00:18.719 out and you start out good, just eighteen holes is it's an insurmountable task. 5 00:00:19.039 --> 00:00:22.440 But just having that mindset easy to talk about, harder to do. 6 00:00:22.519 --> 00:00:25.480 But how are you going to do it? Go out with your buddies and 7 00:00:25.679 --> 00:00:29.399 just have a fun match play event one Saturday or one Friday. You know, 8 00:00:29.480 --> 00:00:32.960 just throw that in there every once in a while. Hi, this 9 00:00:33.119 --> 00:00:38.679 is Sergiel Olivier from Sierra Madra, California, and I play at Altadena Golf 10 00:00:38.719 --> 00:00:46.520 Course. This is Golf Smarter number nine hundred nineteen. Use match play practice 11 00:00:46.759 --> 00:00:54.200 to enhance stroke play success with Joe Howard. This is Golf Smarter, sharing 12 00:00:54.280 --> 00:00:58.960 stories, tips and insights from great golf minds to help you lower your score 13 00:00:59.079 --> 00:01:03.519 and raise your off IQ. Here's your host, Fred Green. Welcome back 14 00:01:03.560 --> 00:01:07.840 to the Golf Smart podcast. Joke Brad, It's fine. I could never 15 00:01:07.920 --> 00:01:12.040 tell how much time transpires between when you and I talked to each other, 16 00:01:12.159 --> 00:01:15.879 because it's like we were just talking a few weeks ago, because we always 17 00:01:15.879 --> 00:01:19.280 seemed to pick up where we left off. But it's been a little while. 18 00:01:19.359 --> 00:01:22.959 I think what was one of the last things. It was crazy. 19 00:01:23.000 --> 00:01:27.519 I think we were going every direction from talking to playing in your major, 20 00:01:27.519 --> 00:01:33.680 the club Championship, to verification of the greens. And we actually have a 21 00:01:33.719 --> 00:01:37.599 topic today that we're going to try and adhere to, but I doubt that'll 22 00:01:37.599 --> 00:01:41.439 work. I'm just looking up on my've spreadsheet here, when is the last 23 00:01:41.480 --> 00:01:45.200 time you were on the show, because I knew we've gotten a lot of 24 00:01:45.439 --> 00:01:52.760 we've milked our last conversation on on our social media, but I think it 25 00:01:52.959 --> 00:01:59.400 wasn't It was January of twenty twenty three. Yeah, before Yeah, it 26 00:01:59.439 --> 00:02:02.280 was just before the PGA event, PGA show, which I went to the 27 00:02:02.319 --> 00:02:07.719 first time. But a lot of water has gone under the bridge and a 28 00:02:07.759 --> 00:02:14.560 lot of balls are in the water since that, since that last time, 29 00:02:15.560 --> 00:02:19.000 and my good friend, that is a show in itself. You could end 30 00:02:19.000 --> 00:02:23.400 it right now and there is truth, and that's saying I'm mcdrop oh man. 31 00:02:27.159 --> 00:02:30.639 Yeah, and unfortunately I'm playing with guys are going wait, I see 32 00:02:30.680 --> 00:02:32.479 a ball in the water, I'm gonna go get it. Not now, 33 00:02:34.879 --> 00:02:37.599 do that on your time. This is my time. No, you're on 34 00:02:37.879 --> 00:02:42.759 my time. Go go clean divots on the green, but don't go looking 35 00:02:42.800 --> 00:02:46.879 for balls that aren't yours. I'm sorry, I'm I'm sing and you're indoors 36 00:02:46.919 --> 00:02:53.159 system. You've been drowning around. I do love to hear recap of what 37 00:02:53.199 --> 00:02:54.719 you've been doing, what you've been working on, who you've been doing it 38 00:02:54.759 --> 00:02:59.400 with. Well, just you know, time wise, one of the most 39 00:02:59.439 --> 00:03:01.120 recent things, things that's happened, and it's you know, as you said, 40 00:03:01.159 --> 00:03:06.080 it's hard with a podcast to you know, talk about A there's only 41 00:03:06.120 --> 00:03:08.560 so many tour players in the world and they represent a rather small percentage. 42 00:03:08.560 --> 00:03:14.639 And b those events happened and you know, they're already done with Sunday last 43 00:03:14.680 --> 00:03:19.080 week and they're on to this week. And but I had the chance to 44 00:03:19.719 --> 00:03:24.960 go over and be part of Team USA for the Solheim Cup. And I've 45 00:03:25.000 --> 00:03:30.280 done that in the past before, and it's it is such an honor to 46 00:03:30.319 --> 00:03:37.919 be able to go do that, and it's it's it's it's kind of neat 47 00:03:37.960 --> 00:03:43.439 and I've seen so many things that you know, it's it's one of those 48 00:03:43.560 --> 00:03:46.120 not what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. But it's the things in the 49 00:03:46.159 --> 00:03:54.199 team room and the the vulnerability and the confidence and the emotions of the you 50 00:03:54.240 --> 00:03:59.599 know, from from excitement to nervousness to everything. And as a as a 51 00:03:59.639 --> 00:04:02.439 coach standing there, it's really neat to see that because you're playing for your 52 00:04:02.439 --> 00:04:06.479 country and you know, the Solheim Cup is the LPGA equivalent of the Ryder 53 00:04:06.520 --> 00:04:11.439 Cup. So Fred, you know, it's old news. But we went 54 00:04:11.520 --> 00:04:15.439 over there and the young lady that I've had so much pleasure working with for 55 00:04:15.600 --> 00:04:20.399 dash going on sixteen years now, Stacy Lewis was the captain and with her 56 00:04:20.480 --> 00:04:26.040 background, excuse me, with her background, not only with Julie Angster kind 57 00:04:26.040 --> 00:04:30.279 of taking her under her wing as a player and showing her, you know, 58 00:04:30.560 --> 00:04:35.000 the things that Julie was doing that was working, but her background in 59 00:04:35.120 --> 00:04:42.279 school being an accounting and you know, and then having KPMG Aligne you know, 60 00:04:42.399 --> 00:04:46.120 not only is her sponsor, but with the LPGA starting to provide all 61 00:04:46.120 --> 00:04:51.439 the analytics, they took that stuff to a completely different level. That was 62 00:04:51.759 --> 00:04:57.360 just crazy. It's you know, it's it's it's more than just playing with 63 00:04:57.439 --> 00:05:00.000 your best friend or a person you like. Out on two and it's kind 64 00:05:00.000 --> 00:05:04.120 of you know, it delves so deep and the only thing I'm going to 65 00:05:04.199 --> 00:05:12.120 tell you is this, those girls did something that no team has ever done. 66 00:05:12.240 --> 00:05:16.000 And I to my knowledge, what we were told was it's something even 67 00:05:16.040 --> 00:05:24.519 the guys have never done. They went overseas to the European venue and they 68 00:05:24.600 --> 00:05:30.480 beat the Europeans for nothing in alternate shot right out of the bat, which 69 00:05:30.519 --> 00:05:33.319 is the way both contests start. And it was and I kind of, 70 00:05:33.800 --> 00:05:38.600 you know, we were in the room kind of between the morning matches in 71 00:05:38.639 --> 00:05:42.360 the afternoon matches, and I looked at Stacey and I said, come here, 72 00:05:42.399 --> 00:05:46.160 and she goes, what I go, Statistically that should never have happened, 73 00:05:46.680 --> 00:05:53.399 and she goes, but statistically it did. So Yeah, And you 74 00:05:53.439 --> 00:05:57.680 know, one of the coolest things was, you know, you kind of 75 00:05:57.680 --> 00:05:59.920 hear a little bit of this. You know, golf is a field game. 76 00:06:00.319 --> 00:06:05.279 Well there was part of the statistics that literally four o'clock in the afternoon 77 00:06:05.279 --> 00:06:09.600 the day before said these are the two people that should go off first. 78 00:06:10.160 --> 00:06:16.000 But then as the captain being out there and watching specifically how two players were 79 00:06:16.319 --> 00:06:19.800 playing. That's part of the magic and part of the mixes. You just 80 00:06:19.800 --> 00:06:24.600 don't go play the practice rounds with your best friend. You're rotating these chess 81 00:06:24.639 --> 00:06:29.560 pieces all around, and she said, two names keep coming back up as 82 00:06:29.600 --> 00:06:33.199 to this player is hitting the ball as good as I've ever seen them hit. 83 00:06:33.879 --> 00:06:40.040 And those two names statistically weren't the ones who were going to lead off. 84 00:06:41.120 --> 00:06:45.800 But those two players were Lexi Thompson and Megan King, and those were 85 00:06:45.839 --> 00:06:49.480 the two that let it off and ended up starting. There was one victory, 86 00:06:49.519 --> 00:06:51.920 there was two, there was three, there was four, and you 87 00:06:51.959 --> 00:06:57.839 know, as we know the final result, you know it was a victory. 88 00:06:57.920 --> 00:07:02.000 We tied them on their soil. But since since they have the cup, 89 00:07:02.199 --> 00:07:06.240 they hold the cup and in a great you know, just the alignment 90 00:07:06.279 --> 00:07:13.279 of sportsmanship. Carlottas Saganda, who is from Spain. I mean, what 91 00:07:13.360 --> 00:07:15.680 could be better. She's on the seventeenth hole. The King of Spain is 92 00:07:15.759 --> 00:07:18.639 up at the green watching this, and she sticks it to two feet and 93 00:07:18.680 --> 00:07:23.519 makes the putt to tie all the matches, and just you know, it 94 00:07:23.560 --> 00:07:26.720 was It's one of those things. You know, there's times where you look 95 00:07:26.759 --> 00:07:30.879 and you kind of go and the golf gods have decreted it. Well, 96 00:07:30.920 --> 00:07:33.639 you know, it's just because just as you said it, I can see 97 00:07:33.680 --> 00:07:39.160 that you had your body action as we look at each other while we're talking 98 00:07:39.160 --> 00:07:42.360 about your body actually kind of had tingles all over your body when you said 99 00:07:42.360 --> 00:07:46.279 that you stuck it to two feet. Was it that good? Oh? 100 00:07:46.319 --> 00:07:49.839 It was that good? And I even have I have high videotaped and I've 101 00:07:49.839 --> 00:07:55.560 got my literally my phone right just pointing at the flag and I hear one 102 00:07:55.560 --> 00:08:01.839 of the caddies from our side. It was to the word darn it, 103 00:08:01.920 --> 00:08:05.920 but he knew what happened, and I was like, you know, this 104 00:08:05.000 --> 00:08:09.480 is what makes the game so great, This is what makes international competition so 105 00:08:09.639 --> 00:08:13.720 great, and just it's it's a game that brings out the best in people, 106 00:08:13.879 --> 00:08:18.480 both in attitudes and in competition. And it's crazy. You see things, 107 00:08:18.759 --> 00:08:22.079 and I know that's one of our topics, and I'm not trying to 108 00:08:22.279 --> 00:08:26.360 delve right into it, but no, you see stuff in match play that 109 00:08:26.439 --> 00:08:30.839 you just don't ever see in stroke play. And you know, I got 110 00:08:30.879 --> 00:08:33.799 a little list here of things, but one of them, friends, I 111 00:08:33.840 --> 00:08:37.080 mean, you know, I swear to you, they make more putts in 112 00:08:37.200 --> 00:08:41.519 match play than they do at stroke play. And I have no idea how 113 00:08:41.559 --> 00:08:43.559 that happens or why it happens at all. If I had an explanation, 114 00:08:43.720 --> 00:08:48.000 I will ask Mark Sweeney from main Point and see if he knows an answer. 115 00:08:48.039 --> 00:08:50.960 But you know, it's you've never you know, if you and I 116 00:08:52.000 --> 00:08:54.960 are going out to play and we go do this, and you go, 117 00:08:54.200 --> 00:08:58.559 eh, you know, he'll probably walk away with par somehow in match play, 118 00:08:58.600 --> 00:09:01.080 you go, what is he about? Eighty eight feet away? He's 119 00:09:01.080 --> 00:09:05.759 probably gonna make this. That's what happens. Just you see it over and 120 00:09:05.799 --> 00:09:07.399 over and over again. But well, you know, I don't you just 121 00:09:07.480 --> 00:09:11.720 mentioned KPMD. Why don't we go and look at the analytics and see if 122 00:09:11.720 --> 00:09:15.240 in fact that is true that it does happen more often in mad play. 123 00:09:15.720 --> 00:09:18.960 I'm sure that there is numbers there. Am I am writing numbers there right 124 00:09:18.960 --> 00:09:24.879 here? That is a question. So you know, yeah, I'm not 125 00:09:24.919 --> 00:09:30.720 saying you're an old school Poche, but you've been around a long time. 126 00:09:31.080 --> 00:09:37.600 How do you feel about the place of analytics and statistics coaching a team? 127 00:09:37.879 --> 00:09:41.879 Well, I think what the golf, and let's say specifically golf. I'm 128 00:09:41.919 --> 00:09:45.679 not going to buff with ball a baseball or basketball, but but for golf, 129 00:09:46.200 --> 00:09:50.799 I think I think that's where the art of the coach or the captain. 130 00:09:50.759 --> 00:09:56.039 Really really that's where it comes out. And you know, I can 131 00:09:56.159 --> 00:09:58.759 kind of you know, gosh, I'm thinking of who was it? Like 132 00:10:00.200 --> 00:10:03.559 Weaver and Tommy Lasorda and baseball and you know those coaches they did it all 133 00:10:03.600 --> 00:10:07.279 by the seat of them, you know, kind of referred back to that 134 00:10:07.440 --> 00:10:09.480 moneyball where all of this started coming out, and yeah, sure, you 135 00:10:09.519 --> 00:10:13.440 know the good coaches still fought with it and said, my gut's telling me 136 00:10:13.480 --> 00:10:16.600 something different. But that's all they had to go on before. Now, 137 00:10:16.639 --> 00:10:22.840 when you start looking at players and specifically you know what what you're seeing the 138 00:10:22.840 --> 00:10:26.480 best players do, but specifically on a team event like a Ryder Cup or 139 00:10:26.519 --> 00:10:31.639 a or a Solheim Cup, the coach is the one with all the data 140 00:10:31.679 --> 00:10:37.840 in the background, and quite frankly, they are not they know what the 141 00:10:37.960 --> 00:10:43.480 data is saying, but they're studying from a coaching standpoint. They're studying, 142 00:10:43.799 --> 00:10:46.080 like you just talked about, what is their body language? What is you 143 00:10:46.120 --> 00:10:50.320 know, what have they been practicing on? Can you see that they're struggling 144 00:10:50.320 --> 00:10:52.679 in their practice sessions or are they having a lot of fun? You know, 145 00:10:52.840 --> 00:10:56.440 you know, and it's all those it's all the intangibles where once all 146 00:10:56.519 --> 00:11:01.480 the numbers are neatly organized behind there. If you've got a team of twelve, 147 00:11:01.559 --> 00:11:03.519 now you go, I really want to keep my eye on these three 148 00:11:03.559 --> 00:11:09.399 players. And those four over there are operating. They're on autopilot right now, 149 00:11:09.559 --> 00:11:13.039 you know. And just as a golfer for you and I, just 150 00:11:13.679 --> 00:11:20.200 keeping very simple items, you know, is for us, just making an 151 00:11:20.200 --> 00:11:24.679 informed decision should give you a hair of confidence, you know, as you 152 00:11:24.720 --> 00:11:28.759 know, it's just I mean, without all the analytics. The old adage 153 00:11:28.879 --> 00:11:31.960 is go play golf sometime and have them, you know, play on a 154 00:11:33.000 --> 00:11:37.240 Monday when the course is closed and none of the flagsticks are in. Watch 155 00:11:37.240 --> 00:11:39.080 how good you plaint? Watch how you get on the green, and you 156 00:11:39.120 --> 00:11:41.240 go, well, look at that the holes right over here, I'm real 157 00:11:41.279 --> 00:11:45.600 close this time, and you know, and all of a sudden, you 158 00:11:45.639 --> 00:11:48.960 go, you're just playing the game at its base. But I think when 159 00:11:50.000 --> 00:11:58.600 the analytics kind of interfere and supersede and confuse players and they're going, I 160 00:11:58.600 --> 00:12:01.360 don't know, I don't feel like I should do that, it's that's that's 161 00:12:01.399 --> 00:12:05.240 when it goes kind of the wrong way. But the numbers are hard to 162 00:12:05.320 --> 00:12:09.039 here. Here's a tip for your listeners, and you could go across the 163 00:12:09.039 --> 00:12:16.360 board with any of these you know, these systems that are out there. 164 00:12:16.559 --> 00:12:20.200 Okay from Okay, but hold that thought for a second. We'll get tip 165 00:12:20.240 --> 00:12:22.960 for the listeners. But we take a break and be back right after this. 166 00:12:31.399 --> 00:12:35.919 Ah love the Cliffinger. Okay, so I interrupted you. You were 167 00:12:35.919 --> 00:12:41.440 about to a tip for listeners. They're sitting on the edge of hopefully they're 168 00:12:41.440 --> 00:12:43.600 sitting a red light waiting for this. But what do you got? Okay, 169 00:12:43.759 --> 00:12:48.440 let's talk about that. Well, it's like you said, I'm an 170 00:12:48.480 --> 00:12:50.799 old school pro. I might have forgot what I was going to tell them. 171 00:12:50.799 --> 00:12:54.879 I didn't really, but think of all the statistics, of all the 172 00:12:54.919 --> 00:12:58.000 statistics, there's a couple of things that really really stand out, and one 173 00:12:58.000 --> 00:13:03.000 of them is you got to go for the par fives unless you have to 174 00:13:03.080 --> 00:13:07.639 cover two hundred and forty yards of water. The closer you get your ball 175 00:13:07.679 --> 00:13:13.919 to the green in two shots, almost at every play level, Fred, 176 00:13:13.759 --> 00:13:16.440 the closer you get the ball to your green, the better score you're gonna 177 00:13:16.480 --> 00:13:20.159 make. And you know, so many times they try and play it smart 178 00:13:20.159 --> 00:13:22.080 and they go, I'm gonna hit an iron off the t and then'm gona 179 00:13:22.120 --> 00:13:24.440 hit an eight iron over here, and then I'll hit my seven iron onto 180 00:13:24.480 --> 00:13:28.360 the green, and all it takes is one of those shots not to be 181 00:13:28.600 --> 00:13:31.200 so good, and you will put yourself into a world of trouble. But 182 00:13:31.360 --> 00:13:35.279 if you can clawber your driver and clawber your three wood and you go, 183 00:13:35.320 --> 00:13:37.919 oh no, I'm in the bunker, it's the very worst. If it 184 00:13:37.960 --> 00:13:41.039 takes you two to get out, you're still butting for a par So you 185 00:13:41.080 --> 00:13:46.919 know those going for the par fives, not stupidly, but getting the balls 186 00:13:46.960 --> 00:13:50.440 close. And the other thing that's crazy is, and you and I have 187 00:13:50.519 --> 00:13:54.440 talked about this before, putts outside of thirty feet. Everybody wants to make 188 00:13:54.440 --> 00:13:58.480 those five footers and the three footers. We get that. But if you 189 00:13:58.639 --> 00:14:03.080 will practice those putts that are outside thirty feet, and you know, spoiler 190 00:14:03.159 --> 00:14:09.120 alert, thirty feet is not across the green, thirty feet is a whole 191 00:14:09.159 --> 00:14:13.080 lot closer than you think it is. And if you can practice those and 192 00:14:13.159 --> 00:14:16.360 get those down in two putts on the tour, you're gaining almost a stroke 193 00:14:16.960 --> 00:14:20.120 in your own personal game. You're not giving strokes away, and you can 194 00:14:20.159 --> 00:14:26.639 watch other players give strokes away there and one of the craziest things is I 195 00:14:26.679 --> 00:14:31.440 can't remember. I think it came out from shot by shot or shot link 196 00:14:31.480 --> 00:14:35.159 whatever. The PGA tour uses the average distance now taking all the shots that 197 00:14:35.200 --> 00:14:39.519 the pros hit, and boy, those guys are good, no question about 198 00:14:39.559 --> 00:14:43.600 it. The average distance of all the shots they hit for last year was 199 00:14:43.679 --> 00:14:50.440 like nineteen point eight feet. So why they're practicing six footers and not practicing 200 00:14:50.480 --> 00:14:56.519 twenty footers all day long? It begs the question of, yeah, you 201 00:14:56.559 --> 00:14:58.919 don't want to miss the one you hit close, but if you make one 202 00:14:58.919 --> 00:15:03.120 of those twenty footers that you're not making, your life could change overnight. 203 00:15:03.399 --> 00:15:05.559 So what are your two deals? Go for the par fives and practice the 204 00:15:05.559 --> 00:15:11.039 thirty foot putts? Yeah, but those twenty foot thirty foot putts. You 205 00:15:11.080 --> 00:15:16.080 know, even the best putter in the world's not gonna make seven out of 206 00:15:16.120 --> 00:15:18.679 ten, is he? Because you know it just it's gravity, it's nature, 207 00:15:18.759 --> 00:15:22.360 it's everything. It gets in the way. I mean, how even 208 00:15:22.399 --> 00:15:26.399 if you're the best, really can you make them all? I mean, 209 00:15:26.559 --> 00:15:30.360 I had around this weekend and I was keeping track for some reason, and 210 00:15:30.440 --> 00:15:33.360 I'm using our coast now, so it really helped the average distance in my 211 00:15:33.559 --> 00:15:39.519 first pot was just over fifteen feet. I was blown away and I had 212 00:15:39.559 --> 00:15:43.240 thirty five pots. I'm like, because I had two three putts, three 213 00:15:43.320 --> 00:15:48.039 one putts and I'm like, that's not that good. I mean, I 214 00:15:48.200 --> 00:15:54.240 was really killing it with my irons. But eh, yeah, isn't it 215 00:15:54.279 --> 00:15:56.759 crazy when you get back there and look? And I want to say, 216 00:15:56.799 --> 00:16:00.639 and I know his record was tied this year Stan Utley, who's one of 217 00:16:00.639 --> 00:16:06.200 the renowned short game people. You know he and it was tied this year, 218 00:16:06.200 --> 00:16:07.759 but he held the record solo for I don't know how long. It 219 00:16:07.919 --> 00:16:11.840 was for the fewest number of putts on nine holes and it was six. 220 00:16:12.240 --> 00:16:17.200 Wow. And I've watched him give presentations and he's so good at people are 221 00:16:17.200 --> 00:16:19.639 like, oh my god, and you know. And the funniest part is 222 00:16:19.639 --> 00:16:22.399 after his round he went out and he was practicing on the putting green and 223 00:16:22.519 --> 00:16:26.440 Stan being stand he's very quiet, and he said someone from the media tent 224 00:16:26.559 --> 00:16:30.159 came out and they said, Stan, we'd like to speak to you in 225 00:16:30.200 --> 00:16:33.919 the media tent. And he goes, for the love of God, why 226 00:16:33.559 --> 00:16:38.320 I played horrible? And then they told him what had happened. And then 227 00:16:38.440 --> 00:16:44.240 his question is a guy who has six putts. What do you think he 228 00:16:44.360 --> 00:16:48.480 shot on those nine? On that nine and people start guessing. He goes, 229 00:16:48.559 --> 00:16:53.399 nope, nope, nope, nope, thirty five one under part because 230 00:16:53.399 --> 00:16:59.440 that means I hit the ball twenty nine times. So putting does help, 231 00:16:59.840 --> 00:17:02.759 there's no question about it. But here's the man who holds the record and 232 00:17:02.840 --> 00:17:04.799 he goes, I couldn't have played much worse. And he chipped the one 233 00:17:04.839 --> 00:17:07.759 in, he hold one out from the fair way. He you know, 234 00:17:08.039 --> 00:17:11.880 he I think he hit a ball on a bounce on that. It was 235 00:17:11.960 --> 00:17:15.920 just one of those crazy circumstances. So wow. So you know, we 236 00:17:15.960 --> 00:17:19.039 talk about the analytics, we talk about old school guys. You know, 237 00:17:19.119 --> 00:17:27.160 I think that the the in all of sports, the longer you were around, 238 00:17:27.200 --> 00:17:32.200 the more you're see that you've never anticipated. But you put it in 239 00:17:32.240 --> 00:17:36.119 your memory bank and you go like, Okay, that has happened. Now 240 00:17:36.160 --> 00:17:40.519 I can deal with it. Now I've recognized it. And I think maybe 241 00:17:40.640 --> 00:17:48.160 that's why so much of the old school coaching doesn't love the analytics much, 242 00:17:48.160 --> 00:17:52.599 because it takes that out of the equation. It takes like just the random 243 00:17:52.599 --> 00:17:56.119 stuff that happens in all of sports, especially golf, right because you know 244 00:17:56.440 --> 00:18:02.079 you're playing on No two fields are alike, you know, no two courses 245 00:18:02.119 --> 00:18:04.960 are alike in the sense where every basketball courts the same, every football fields 246 00:18:04.960 --> 00:18:10.000 the same, Every tennis court is the same dimensions, maybe has a different 247 00:18:10.720 --> 00:18:14.039 surface, right, But there's so many things you'll see they're like, whoop, 248 00:18:14.119 --> 00:18:18.480 never saw that one before, But now I have, right analytics, 249 00:18:18.559 --> 00:18:22.880 I don't know if analytics puts it in place, there is and do you 250 00:18:22.960 --> 00:18:26.240 do you think? And it's almost like looking at it and when you look 251 00:18:26.279 --> 00:18:30.400 at the you know, all the stats and the numbers, you know, 252 00:18:30.480 --> 00:18:33.000 I think the thing you would hear is you go, that's in a one 253 00:18:33.000 --> 00:18:36.480 and a million occurrence. It's an outlier, right, But I think the 254 00:18:36.519 --> 00:18:41.799 old timey player and the old timey coach and the old timey caddy would go, 255 00:18:42.039 --> 00:18:44.559 you know, I mean, I mean it could be. And I 256 00:18:44.680 --> 00:18:47.279 remember, I know, I know it was David Thomson. I know it 257 00:18:47.319 --> 00:18:49.480 was a few years back, and I'm almost positive I think it was at 258 00:18:49.519 --> 00:18:52.519 one of the Canadian Open venues. And you know, the old adage is 259 00:18:53.279 --> 00:18:56.279 it's okay if you hit the flag because you're going to be fine. Don't 260 00:18:56.279 --> 00:19:02.680 ever hit the flag stick and you know it's in here. David Tobbs hits 261 00:19:02.680 --> 00:19:06.480 a flagstick literally, I mean you know what, two feet up from the 262 00:19:06.480 --> 00:19:10.359 bottom as good as you can possibly hit a shot right, and with that 263 00:19:10.400 --> 00:19:14.279 particular flagstick they were using, koreems Off goes off the left side of the 264 00:19:14.279 --> 00:19:17.640 green down into the water hazard. Oh my, and he ends up not 265 00:19:17.680 --> 00:19:21.400 winning the tournament. And I mean, you know what, it's happened on 266 00:19:21.400 --> 00:19:23.240 the LBJ. But it's that old timey caddy that's gonna look at you and 267 00:19:23.319 --> 00:19:26.559 kind of go, let's just let's just play to the front and see what 268 00:19:26.640 --> 00:19:32.839 happens, you know, because that one current. But sometimes you're not living 269 00:19:32.880 --> 00:19:36.599 in fear, but you're making a decision to go, yeah, believe it 270 00:19:36.680 --> 00:19:40.519 or not, I've seen this happen, and let's just play smart exactly. 271 00:19:41.319 --> 00:19:42.880 Yeah. You know, it's like you say, the announcers will going, 272 00:19:42.880 --> 00:19:45.880 well, that was a one in a million O current just right, they'll 273 00:19:47.079 --> 00:19:48.680 they'll put that out in the air. And yet there's, like you said, 274 00:19:48.680 --> 00:19:52.680 a caddy and a coach and an old player standing there going now. 275 00:19:52.160 --> 00:19:59.920 Happened before nineteen eighty three. It was on a Thursday fourteenth, Holly, 276 00:20:00.240 --> 00:20:04.079 it was rain. It's like, yeah, okay, okay, those are 277 00:20:04.119 --> 00:20:08.319 analytics, I guess yeah, And those things are always outliers, and you 278 00:20:08.359 --> 00:20:11.799 know they go that doesn't factor to the equation and you're like, well it 279 00:20:11.880 --> 00:20:17.200 did on that day. I mean, there was You just reminded me of 280 00:20:17.240 --> 00:20:19.759 something. There was a year that you know, one of the great players 281 00:20:19.759 --> 00:20:25.160 who was on the LPGA for so many years, Shen Shen Feng. She's 282 00:20:25.200 --> 00:20:26.720 gonna go for the par five and two. And the only reason I know 283 00:20:26.799 --> 00:20:30.920 this is I know Stacy Lewis was in the lead. Well, you know, 284 00:20:32.039 --> 00:20:34.319 she's got to carry it over water a little bit. And I mean 285 00:20:34.359 --> 00:20:38.680 the minute she hits the shot, literally the minute she hits the shot, 286 00:20:38.880 --> 00:20:41.519 one of her hands comes off the club, you know, the right hand 287 00:20:41.519 --> 00:20:44.519 comes off the club because you know, and you can just see in her 288 00:20:44.519 --> 00:20:47.160 body language she's like, oh my god, I missed it. Yeah, 289 00:20:47.480 --> 00:20:51.119 it hits a rock over in the water. Krene's onto the green, It's 290 00:20:51.160 --> 00:20:53.079 going a million miles an hour. It hits the flagstick and it ends up 291 00:20:53.079 --> 00:20:57.000 an inch away. Oh my god, I love it. But those are 292 00:20:57.000 --> 00:21:00.960 the things you're like the ana and you know what, at some point, 293 00:21:02.240 --> 00:21:04.200 it's kind of like you hate to be beat or you hate to win. 294 00:21:04.960 --> 00:21:07.839 But that's the cool part about this game. You always got a crazy thing. 295 00:21:08.160 --> 00:21:11.039 Oh that hold and one you made? Was it glorious? And you 296 00:21:11.119 --> 00:21:15.039 backed it up? You landed over the flag? No, it was horrible. 297 00:21:15.079 --> 00:21:17.839 I scolded it. Land forty yards short of the green, ran one 298 00:21:17.880 --> 00:21:22.119 hundred miles an hour, hit the flag and went in. That's what do 299 00:21:22.160 --> 00:21:23.359 they You can't put that in the score box? No, And what do 300 00:21:23.400 --> 00:21:26.880 you do with that? With analytics? How do they? You know? 301 00:21:26.000 --> 00:21:30.680 Factor that I don't know because I don't know enough. Now. This past 302 00:21:30.000 --> 00:21:40.480 summer of twenty twenty three, the women's tennis US Open was bragging a lot 303 00:21:40.519 --> 00:21:48.920 about deserving so about the equity in pay for the US up in women's tennis. 304 00:21:48.039 --> 00:21:53.720 Mess tennis right here now you're talking about this Solheim Cup and how the 305 00:21:53.839 --> 00:22:00.640 US dominated, But the headlines were more about what was going on with the 306 00:22:00.279 --> 00:22:07.279 with men and the you know, travesty. It was is there going to 307 00:22:07.359 --> 00:22:12.519 be equity in men's and women's golf on the professional level as far as our 308 00:22:12.519 --> 00:22:19.880 attention. I would say this in the last four to five years, and 309 00:22:19.960 --> 00:22:27.400 I would say that Michael Wan, who was the commissioner of the LPGA and 310 00:22:27.440 --> 00:22:33.960 then went over to the USGA. He really pushed that forward and the the 311 00:22:33.960 --> 00:22:38.480 the is there an equity and pay in some tournaments, the Women's US Open 312 00:22:38.519 --> 00:22:42.079 and the men's US Open. You know, I mean you look what the 313 00:22:42.720 --> 00:22:47.240 US Woman's Open paid. I think it was the one back in Pine Needles 314 00:22:47.559 --> 00:22:52.039 was at one point eight million or two point three million went to first prize, 315 00:22:52.279 --> 00:22:53.200 you know, and I know it's more than that for the men. 316 00:22:53.319 --> 00:22:56.680 But the one thing that's happened, and I think if you talked to a 317 00:22:56.680 --> 00:23:03.759 lot of the players on the LPGA, the speed at which things are exponentially 318 00:23:04.599 --> 00:23:10.200 the prize moneies are exponentially growing. The speed at which that's happened over the 319 00:23:10.240 --> 00:23:17.200 last thirty six to forty eight months is a real welcome site to see and 320 00:23:17.640 --> 00:23:22.519 has been. And you know something that it not only is it say they're 321 00:23:22.519 --> 00:23:26.240 on the right path, but it also says you know what it's It's it's 322 00:23:26.319 --> 00:23:29.920 kind of like it's not going up ten percent a year. It's all of 323 00:23:29.960 --> 00:23:33.599 a sudden, these new sponsors are coming in and you know, these major 324 00:23:33.680 --> 00:23:37.599 corporations and they look at equity in the workplace and they're going, we're going 325 00:23:37.640 --> 00:23:41.279 to do this if we can have equity in our competition on the LPGA Tour 326 00:23:41.359 --> 00:23:45.160 compared to the Men's Tour, and it's helped a lot. But I don't 327 00:23:45.160 --> 00:23:49.039 know if that makes sense, but the increase in person money and the increase 328 00:23:49.119 --> 00:23:53.559 and you know, there's always kind of that one number in that one line. 329 00:23:53.599 --> 00:23:57.319 And I don't live on that, but I know because I taught a 330 00:23:57.359 --> 00:24:02.559 young lady who finished one hundredth on them money list one year, and for 331 00:24:02.680 --> 00:24:07.880 so many years, gosh, I've been out there seventeen years almost now, 332 00:24:07.200 --> 00:24:11.680 but for so many years you could just kind of go around that ninety nine 333 00:24:11.720 --> 00:24:15.640 to one hundred spot. It was kind of like you're going to make somewhere 334 00:24:15.680 --> 00:24:21.240 between sixty eight and eighty eighty thousand dollars. But it was always that number 335 00:24:21.400 --> 00:24:26.160 year after year after year after year, and that folks, I'm not I 336 00:24:26.240 --> 00:24:29.400 know how these ladies and these caddies, and I know how I travel. 337 00:24:29.920 --> 00:24:33.960 That's barely going to get you by it, but it gives you your I'm 338 00:24:33.960 --> 00:24:37.799 working next year card. But all of a sudden over the last however many 339 00:24:37.880 --> 00:24:41.240 years, and I probably should google it during our next break, but I 340 00:24:41.279 --> 00:24:45.400 mean that eighty thousand, numbers started jumping up, and it went from eighty 341 00:24:45.400 --> 00:24:47.319 to one hundred, and went from one hundred to one hundred and twenty. 342 00:24:47.359 --> 00:24:48.319 It went from one hundred and twenty to one hundred and forty. And this 343 00:24:48.400 --> 00:24:52.440 year it's probably going to be, you know, somewhere if I had to 344 00:24:52.480 --> 00:24:56.240 guess right now, somewhere in one hundred and eighty thousand dollars range, just 345 00:24:56.519 --> 00:25:00.240 you know, maybe close to two hundred thousand, which if you're finishing in 346 00:25:00.279 --> 00:25:06.519 the last exempt spot, you've made enough money to live and put some money 347 00:25:06.559 --> 00:25:08.839 in the bank and pay your bills. But you know, the cost is 348 00:25:08.880 --> 00:25:12.680 staying out there. And you know, anybody who's listening in this day and 349 00:25:12.759 --> 00:25:18.039 age, air travel ain't cheap, and it's I mean, what used to 350 00:25:18.119 --> 00:25:25.119 run sixty eight to seventy thousand dollars is closer to ninety for the ladies, 351 00:25:25.200 --> 00:25:27.559 and you know, or for those players that are touring and that would provide 352 00:25:27.559 --> 00:25:33.039 to the corn Ferry Tour, provide all these things. So just being being 353 00:25:33.039 --> 00:25:37.079 able to play well enough to be qualified for your job and not have to 354 00:25:37.119 --> 00:25:40.519 go back to your golf course and go all right, does anybody want to 355 00:25:40.559 --> 00:25:44.160 do the sponsorship thing again this year. You know, it's kind of cool 356 00:25:44.200 --> 00:25:45.240 your first year out, but you're like, well, this is your fourth 357 00:25:45.319 --> 00:25:51.039 year on tour, why aren't you Well, so that's a good question. 358 00:25:51.440 --> 00:25:55.279 I'm really a non confrontational kind of guy. But I love the path that, 359 00:25:56.039 --> 00:26:00.759 at least in golf, the speed at the path that they're going on, 360 00:26:00.960 --> 00:26:03.839 and it's helped. Good good, All right. I'm not going to 361 00:26:03.119 --> 00:26:07.079 make you go do that research, but we're going to take a break right 362 00:26:07.119 --> 00:26:17.759 now. So you get to be inside ropes on a lot of LPGA events. 363 00:26:18.160 --> 00:26:25.960 What's the buzz inside the ropes about live and do women feel slutted that 364 00:26:26.039 --> 00:26:30.000 they were approached to create a tour like this, or you know, thinking 365 00:26:30.039 --> 00:26:33.519 about a lot of people think about the politics. There's no way the Saudis 366 00:26:33.519 --> 00:26:37.720 are going to go, yeah, let's promote women out in front, you 367 00:26:37.759 --> 00:26:41.440 know? Or am I just imagining stuff right now? Fred, I'm going 368 00:26:41.519 --> 00:26:45.200 to give you the best answer you're ever going to get to that question. 369 00:26:45.519 --> 00:26:51.519 Who says that the ladies were not approached by liv I don't know. And 370 00:26:51.559 --> 00:26:56.200 there's the answer to your question. So I mean, yes, I do 371 00:26:56.240 --> 00:27:02.440 get to hear a lot about that, and I don't hear enough of it 372 00:27:02.559 --> 00:27:07.880 to really render an informed opinion. But they're the players have been approached in 373 00:27:07.920 --> 00:27:14.279 the past, okay, you know, and it's and it's the one thing 374 00:27:14.400 --> 00:27:18.839 that I know that the LPGA even looks at. And you know, when 375 00:27:18.839 --> 00:27:21.599 we go and we play the Solheim Cup, so many of the players that 376 00:27:21.680 --> 00:27:26.759 aren't playing our tour are overseas and they're playing the l e T the Ladies' 377 00:27:26.759 --> 00:27:30.640 European Tour, which really, amongst other things, does need a shot in 378 00:27:30.680 --> 00:27:33.400 the arm. And you know, at some at some further point down the 379 00:27:33.480 --> 00:27:38.640 road, you know, maybe kind of like you know, it becomes a 380 00:27:38.680 --> 00:27:44.079 structure more like the PGA, where you know, we have the sponsorships, 381 00:27:44.119 --> 00:27:47.000 and you know, the l e T has fought so hard for everything that 382 00:27:47.039 --> 00:27:49.720 they have, and you know, is it, aside from the Solheim Cup, 383 00:27:49.759 --> 00:27:52.960 is it good to combine forces and go, wow, we could be 384 00:27:52.960 --> 00:27:56.079 a much stronger entity if we were all together. And you know, some 385 00:27:56.119 --> 00:27:59.079 players would play on this tour and some would play on that tour and there'd 386 00:27:59.079 --> 00:28:03.039 be qualification on both. So yes, but it's there is talking, and 387 00:28:03.079 --> 00:28:07.519 it's kind of it's you know, you hear every comment and there is kind 388 00:28:07.519 --> 00:28:08.920 of like, boy that used to be my favorite player, but I really 389 00:28:10.000 --> 00:28:12.799 don't think too much of him since he went to live you know. Yeah, 390 00:28:12.960 --> 00:28:21.119 yeah, and it's I think I think Fred you might call it an 391 00:28:21.200 --> 00:28:25.079 undercurrent. But knowing that the pressure that has been put on the men's to 392 00:28:25.119 --> 00:28:27.480 her, you, knowing that that could come over to the ladies tour, 393 00:28:27.799 --> 00:28:33.559 has propelled them. And the new commissioner, Molly, who's just she is, 394 00:28:33.000 --> 00:28:38.279 She is consistently out working with future sponsors and more sponsors, and how 395 00:28:38.279 --> 00:28:42.839 do we get this so that if that situation comes it's not like I've been 396 00:28:42.880 --> 00:28:47.160 struggling out for years. I'll hop over there, you know, if that 397 00:28:47.359 --> 00:28:49.400 situation were to come up, and you go, man, I've been part 398 00:28:49.400 --> 00:28:55.400 of this this train going along called the LPGA, and it's it's really grown, 399 00:28:55.440 --> 00:28:57.559 and I've been part of that and and you know, and and I 400 00:28:57.680 --> 00:29:02.759 help make it so it'll be interesting. But yeah, I mean, yeah, 401 00:29:03.119 --> 00:29:07.400 that's almost like that Apple's oranges and you're like, that's steak over there 402 00:29:07.480 --> 00:29:10.599 by the way, just in case you're in the produce section, and those 403 00:29:10.640 --> 00:29:12.960 people in the steak section the meat market are kind of signing up for a 404 00:29:14.000 --> 00:29:21.519 bigger paycheck. But uh who knows. All right, enough politics, Let's 405 00:29:21.720 --> 00:29:25.559 go to the topic that we thought would be a fun one to discuss for 406 00:29:25.640 --> 00:29:30.279 this episode, and that would be match play practice to enhance your stroke place 407 00:29:30.359 --> 00:29:37.759 success. I love that idea. Yeah, here here, you know, 408 00:29:37.880 --> 00:29:41.640 And it's kind of Fred and I'll give you credit. We were talking off 409 00:29:41.680 --> 00:29:45.000 air and it's kind of you know, it's a precursor to something that may 410 00:29:45.000 --> 00:29:49.839 be popping out in some other areas here in terms of uh information or whatnot. 411 00:29:49.880 --> 00:29:52.920 And you know, Fred, I you know, with a smile on 412 00:29:52.920 --> 00:29:56.920 my face, I was friend's like, come up with some we just can't 413 00:29:56.000 --> 00:30:00.839 yammer for an hour here we got, but we managed. You know, 414 00:30:00.880 --> 00:30:04.839 they're yeah, and you know there it's just one of those things where you 415 00:30:04.920 --> 00:30:08.319 kind of sit there and go, okay, it's two different forms of golf, 416 00:30:08.359 --> 00:30:11.799 and yes, and we go play the European They were brought up and 417 00:30:11.839 --> 00:30:14.400 they were always playing match play. So are they better at it? Have 418 00:30:14.440 --> 00:30:18.480 they played more alternate shot? Have they done all these things? And all 419 00:30:18.519 --> 00:30:22.079 of a sudden, it's kind of like you see these incredible shots and we 420 00:30:22.160 --> 00:30:25.359 talk about, you know, it seems like they make more potts at match 421 00:30:25.400 --> 00:30:29.920 play and how do they pull these things off? And you know, coach 422 00:30:30.039 --> 00:30:33.119 me on the other side of it is like, I wonder if there was 423 00:30:33.119 --> 00:30:36.160 a way you could sort of practice that way and then when it came time 424 00:30:36.200 --> 00:30:40.799 for stroke play, these things actually do show up instead of just going out 425 00:30:40.839 --> 00:30:45.720 and following the old you know, coach mcgillacutty adage, you just need to 426 00:30:45.799 --> 00:30:51.039 hit more golf balls, you know. But I mean one of them that 427 00:30:51.440 --> 00:30:55.079 I wrote down is and it's one of the most obvious ones. It's the 428 00:30:55.200 --> 00:31:00.680 mindset that you take into match play because it is literally whole by hole instead 429 00:31:00.720 --> 00:31:04.759 of one big challenge. And Fred, I know this has never happened to 430 00:31:04.799 --> 00:31:07.680 you, but it's happened to me, and potentially it might have happened to 431 00:31:07.720 --> 00:31:12.160 one of your your listeners. You know. Let's say you start off a 432 00:31:12.200 --> 00:31:18.519 little less than stellar and your first hole is a complete catastrophe. Hm. 433 00:31:18.680 --> 00:31:23.640 You know, in match play, who cares, I'm one down? I 434 00:31:23.680 --> 00:31:27.640 got seventeen more chances to even this thing up, you know, And it 435 00:31:27.680 --> 00:31:30.400 could be a crazy thing that happened. You might have hit the flag stick, 436 00:31:30.480 --> 00:31:33.240 you know, you might have who knows, you got stung by a 437 00:31:33.279 --> 00:31:38.000 bee standing on the tee whatever it is, but there is that that mindset, 438 00:31:38.119 --> 00:31:44.720 and I kind of, you know, make it equivocal to there's you 439 00:31:44.839 --> 00:31:48.000 either see old man par each in every hole when you're out there and you're 440 00:31:48.200 --> 00:31:52.440 you know, you're gonna look at old man Par. Or it's kind of 441 00:31:52.480 --> 00:31:56.240 the ghost of old man par following you around in stroke play and he's in 442 00:31:56.279 --> 00:32:00.240 your ear going, well, you're three over now now and there's only six 443 00:32:00.240 --> 00:32:04.359 holes left. You realize you have to birdy half of those, and you 444 00:32:04.400 --> 00:32:07.559 know, and it's kind of like or you just meet old man Par at 445 00:32:07.559 --> 00:32:09.160 the tea every time and you go, hey, good to see you again. 446 00:32:09.599 --> 00:32:13.839 I missed you the last hole, you know, and can I buy 447 00:32:13.839 --> 00:32:19.359 you a beer? Exactly? And you know, and again you're playing in 448 00:32:19.480 --> 00:32:22.359 match play, you're playing one person and you're not playing the entire field. 449 00:32:22.400 --> 00:32:25.920 And in real life, that one person is old man Par. And if 450 00:32:25.920 --> 00:32:30.480 you can, if you can kind of have that that mindset a little bit, 451 00:32:31.359 --> 00:32:36.200 because even when you start out, and you start out, good man, 452 00:32:36.480 --> 00:32:40.240 just eighteen holes is it's an insurmountable task. You know, you put 453 00:32:40.240 --> 00:32:44.519 it into bite sized pieces, you know, six little three hole tournaments, 454 00:32:44.559 --> 00:32:46.960 and then somewhere about on the fourth of the six three hole tournaments, you're 455 00:32:46.960 --> 00:32:50.559 going, you know, I got to take my kid to soccer here in 456 00:32:50.599 --> 00:32:52.319 an hour. Can we hurry up a little bit, So all those things 457 00:32:52.319 --> 00:32:57.440 that kind of come in. But just having that mindset and boy, easy 458 00:32:57.440 --> 00:33:00.160 to talk about, harder to do. But how are you going to do 459 00:33:00.200 --> 00:33:04.839 it? Go out with your buddies and just have a fun match play event 460 00:33:05.359 --> 00:33:07.319 one Saturday or one Friday. You know, just throw that in there every 461 00:33:07.359 --> 00:33:13.240 once in a while. The next thing on there is strategy which becomes kind 462 00:33:13.240 --> 00:33:20.680 of interesting. And you know, the par threes in match play are vitally 463 00:33:20.720 --> 00:33:25.400 important at the highest level because the assumption is on the par fives, the 464 00:33:25.519 --> 00:33:30.160 ladies on the LPGA, the men on the PGA, come on, you 465 00:33:30.160 --> 00:33:34.200 ain't gonna win a par five with a birdie, but everybody's gonna make birdie 466 00:33:34.240 --> 00:33:37.200 on a par five. Now that's a blanket statement, that's not true. 467 00:33:37.519 --> 00:33:39.119 But those are the givens. It's not like you're gonna sneak in and make 468 00:33:39.160 --> 00:33:44.599 a birdie on the par five. But the par threes, that's where you 469 00:33:44.640 --> 00:33:51.200 can really separate yourself and knowing which par threes are the ones that you should 470 00:33:51.200 --> 00:33:54.759 maybe be a little more aggressive on and it doesn't have to be the shortest 471 00:33:54.799 --> 00:34:00.759 hole. You know, the postage stampole at Troon is ridiculously short. But 472 00:34:01.359 --> 00:34:05.480 look, if your wedge game is it good, that's not the one you 473 00:34:05.559 --> 00:34:07.519 need to be going at. If you if you are better with a seven 474 00:34:07.639 --> 00:34:12.199 R and you might be better off really kind of putting the you know, 475 00:34:12.239 --> 00:34:15.559 the pedals of the medal on the one hundred and fifty five yard hole and 476 00:34:15.760 --> 00:34:19.719 just trying to So there's this strategy to know, you know, maybe you've 477 00:34:19.880 --> 00:34:22.000 maybe you're great with your hybrid and you're playing a two hundred and twenty yard 478 00:34:22.000 --> 00:34:24.760 par three and you go, I love this hole. I get to hit 479 00:34:24.800 --> 00:34:29.960 my favorite club. So the par threees are important. But just because they're 480 00:34:29.960 --> 00:34:32.719 short doesn't mean that's the one you should go after. So before you tee 481 00:34:32.760 --> 00:34:36.800 off, you kind of look at it and go okay, and everybody's there 482 00:34:36.840 --> 00:34:38.559 and they're looking at that and go ooh, the whole location is right in 483 00:34:38.559 --> 00:34:40.639 the middle of the green. That's a good one for me to go to. 484 00:34:42.320 --> 00:34:46.920 But those holes are very very important, they really really are. I 485 00:34:47.000 --> 00:34:52.039 put down here because it's it's one of those things that anytime the PGA Tour 486 00:34:52.119 --> 00:34:58.760 or LPGA Tour players go overseas. You know, sometimes I think they would 487 00:34:58.880 --> 00:35:01.199 rather just I I know they would rather have their golf club show up than 488 00:35:01.199 --> 00:35:06.760 their regular clothes. And sometimes their golf clubs don't show up. And literally 489 00:35:06.800 --> 00:35:09.239 when I was standing in the airport and I looked over and I thought, 490 00:35:09.559 --> 00:35:14.239 well, there's Daniel Kang's set of clubs, and I knew that she they 491 00:35:14.239 --> 00:35:16.199 had taken about two days to get there. And I texted and said, 492 00:35:16.280 --> 00:35:21.039 Hey, I'm driving in from the airport. I see your clubs at at 493 00:35:21.079 --> 00:35:23.119 the Luftanza office right now. Do you want me to bring them with me? 494 00:35:23.199 --> 00:35:29.119 If so, call, But knowing that those players when they go over 495 00:35:29.119 --> 00:35:32.800 there are also kind of bringing their horses for courses, They're bringing a few 496 00:35:32.800 --> 00:35:37.159 extra pieces of equipment to know, are the greens elevated, what kind of 497 00:35:37.199 --> 00:35:40.480 bounds are they going to use on the wedge, you know, and all 498 00:35:40.519 --> 00:35:45.960 these things, and it is the rough longer? Is it's all that stuff 499 00:35:45.000 --> 00:35:47.840 again? Going back to the par threes, do I want to try and 500 00:35:47.920 --> 00:35:51.800 hit a long iron or do I want to bring it in a little higher? 501 00:35:52.480 --> 00:35:57.280 So knowing you know, Fred, if we're going to go play Pinehurst, 502 00:35:57.559 --> 00:36:00.599 which is you know Donald Ross Gem. All the greens they're like upside 503 00:36:00.639 --> 00:36:05.119 down tea cups, right, I mean, you're gonna have to figure out. 504 00:36:05.199 --> 00:36:08.639 So if you're going there, and of course you normally play is nice 505 00:36:08.679 --> 00:36:13.800 and plush around the green and relatively flat, you better bring a couple other 506 00:36:13.800 --> 00:36:16.960 clubs because the one you're used to using is not gonna work at Pinehurst. 507 00:36:17.559 --> 00:36:22.159 So having the right equipment and you know, not going, well, this 508 00:36:22.280 --> 00:36:25.559 is what the pros do. Maybe it's an old rickety putter you have and 509 00:36:25.800 --> 00:36:30.639 you know it's a chipper or a ping chipo from nineteen seventy four, whatever 510 00:36:30.679 --> 00:36:34.199 it is, it's something to go, oh, I can use this and 511 00:36:34.239 --> 00:36:37.719 it's gonna help me. So having the right equipment for the courses, all 512 00:36:37.800 --> 00:36:40.559 right, let's take one. Let me see some you look down your list 513 00:36:40.639 --> 00:36:45.599 and figure that out. We're gonna take one more break and we'll be back 514 00:36:45.960 --> 00:36:51.199 this week on Golf Smarter Mulligans is a fascinating conversation with a returning guest golf 515 00:36:51.239 --> 00:36:57.239 course architect Jeffrey Brower, discussing what are the contributing factors that influence the design 516 00:36:57.280 --> 00:37:02.360 of a golf course including landscapes, the owner, developers, needs players, 517 00:37:02.360 --> 00:37:07.280 strategy, and if it's relevant the theme. It was quite relevant for this 518 00:37:07.360 --> 00:37:14.000 conversation because we discuss his design of the only NFL themed golf course in the 519 00:37:14.039 --> 00:37:19.599 country, the Cowboys Golf Course in Dallas, Texas. Through contacts, somebody 520 00:37:19.639 --> 00:37:23.400 knew Jerry Jones and he expressed interest in becoming a partner in the golf course 521 00:37:23.440 --> 00:37:28.360 and doing an NFL themed golf course. You know, in Dallas, Texas, 522 00:37:28.599 --> 00:37:30.639 we have all one hundred courses here, and we've had all the signature 523 00:37:30.679 --> 00:37:36.880 designers and whatnot, and probably there's no better team or brand in Dallas and 524 00:37:36.960 --> 00:37:39.920 maybe a lot of other places than the Dallas Cowboys. That's episode two hundred 525 00:37:39.960 --> 00:37:45.000 and thirty five of Golf Smarter Mulligans featuring golf course architect Jeffrey Brower, being 526 00:37:45.039 --> 00:37:52.599 featured on our podcast Offspring Golf Smarter Mulligans being released this Friday morning. So 527 00:37:52.840 --> 00:37:58.119 if you're getting valuable insights or are entertained by what we present here each week, 528 00:37:58.440 --> 00:38:02.119 then don't miss the chance to get two episodes every week with Golf Smarter 529 00:38:02.400 --> 00:38:07.840 and Golf Smarter Mulligans episodes from our archives that revisit the best of Golf Smarter 530 00:38:08.400 --> 00:38:14.440 that can't be found on any other platform. They're both available for free from 531 00:38:14.480 --> 00:38:22.199 wherever you're listening right now. Hi, what do you get? What else 532 00:38:22.239 --> 00:38:25.480 you got on that list there to help us figure out how we can improve 533 00:38:25.519 --> 00:38:30.360 our stroke play just by having a match play mentality or even playing match play? 534 00:38:30.599 --> 00:38:32.599 Yeah, you know, there's a couple more, and it's kind of 535 00:38:32.599 --> 00:38:37.320 thinking. Is distance the most important? Is direction the most important? Off 536 00:38:37.360 --> 00:38:42.559 of the tea, And I will tell you from not only being in the 537 00:38:42.760 --> 00:38:49.840 coaching room and being on the side watching players, there's a lot to be 538 00:38:50.000 --> 00:38:52.679 in the first person to hit the green when you and I are out playing 539 00:38:52.719 --> 00:38:58.519 match play. I might be fred I'm going to really boost your ego up. 540 00:38:58.559 --> 00:39:01.079 I might be fifty yards behind you and I hit mine pretty good at 541 00:39:01.119 --> 00:39:07.559 the sixty five, so we'll just go there. But the first person to 542 00:39:07.639 --> 00:39:09.559 hit the green, you know, and I mean, if I hit the 543 00:39:09.559 --> 00:39:13.800 green, great, But if I haven't hit a close shot, now that 544 00:39:13.920 --> 00:39:17.559 other person is going hmm, okay, maybe I need to take something into 545 00:39:17.599 --> 00:39:22.360 account here. So you know, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure 546 00:39:22.360 --> 00:39:27.280 out the first person to hit the green has a little bit of a psychological 547 00:39:27.400 --> 00:39:30.880 edge. And does that mean you have to hit it so long and vombit 548 00:39:30.039 --> 00:39:34.360 by the playing partner or do you have to out hit your normal distance? 549 00:39:34.440 --> 00:39:37.159 No, you need to have a spot where you can get the ball and 550 00:39:37.199 --> 00:39:43.000 hit it on the green and like that, is it important to hit the 551 00:39:43.039 --> 00:39:46.840 ball close to the hole. Well, that's nice, but I got to 552 00:39:46.880 --> 00:39:52.000 tell you something. The first person to make the putt and the first person 553 00:39:52.039 --> 00:39:55.360 to putt might have a little bit of an advantage. And that's what I 554 00:39:55.440 --> 00:40:00.960 see a ton of in match play, is the these bombs that the players 555 00:40:01.039 --> 00:40:06.679 keep making because there's there's this kind of underlying thing that's Fred. If you 556 00:40:06.719 --> 00:40:08.679 and I are player and I'm thirty feet away and you're five feet away, 557 00:40:09.360 --> 00:40:15.039 you know, somewhere behind my actions and I'm main pointing and I've got my 558 00:40:15.159 --> 00:40:19.320 speed dial then and it's about five feet from the hole, you know, 559 00:40:19.400 --> 00:40:22.039 I'm not going to say anything, but at some point in my mind it's 560 00:40:22.039 --> 00:40:27.239 going to go, this is really going to ruin Fred's day. But the 561 00:40:27.639 --> 00:40:30.960 competitive nature comes out, yeah, and it's you know, in a fun 562 00:40:30.000 --> 00:40:32.559 way. It's kind of like, oh, I didn't see that coming. 563 00:40:34.000 --> 00:40:37.440 So whoever the closer person is is kind of going, all right, let's 564 00:40:37.480 --> 00:40:40.159 double check, let's make sure I read it right. Let's get to practice 565 00:40:40.159 --> 00:40:44.360 swings, and all of a sudden, what was a natural flow now becomes 566 00:40:44.920 --> 00:40:47.360 you know, you have two minutes left in the test and you have twelve 567 00:40:47.480 --> 00:40:52.119 questions to answer on your SAT and you're trying like heck to make sure you 568 00:40:52.159 --> 00:40:54.639 get them right, and you know, and then kind of looking at you 569 00:40:54.639 --> 00:40:59.880 know, what is the practice that you would need for going to a match 570 00:41:00.280 --> 00:41:04.320 event? And you know, really there's a couple of things. One of 571 00:41:04.400 --> 00:41:07.760 them is the conditions. You have to bring the right equipment if you can, 572 00:41:08.159 --> 00:41:12.360 but sometimes it's about learning a little different technique. Now I'm going to 573 00:41:12.360 --> 00:41:15.719 put my hand up and go go see your PGA professional and have him show 574 00:41:15.760 --> 00:41:19.119 you if you's like, how do you hit that bump and run? This 575 00:41:19.159 --> 00:41:21.760 is what I've always done, and he might show you three different ways, 576 00:41:22.199 --> 00:41:24.159 and all of a sudden, now you've got something. When you go and 577 00:41:24.199 --> 00:41:30.000 you play your member guest or your friend's member guest, you're prepared when you 578 00:41:30.039 --> 00:41:35.599 get out there. And then playing some games with pressure or practicing some things 579 00:41:35.639 --> 00:41:39.920 with pressure and accepting the outcome I think it was Molinari the year he won 580 00:41:39.960 --> 00:41:44.719 the British Open. I think he had like a fifteen footer and he drained 581 00:41:44.719 --> 00:41:46.760 it. And you know, he wasn't being egotistical, but he told the 582 00:41:46.800 --> 00:41:52.280 story of every time he went and practiced putting, he literally would finish off 583 00:41:52.320 --> 00:41:55.760 with one fifteen foot putt and his deal was, this is to win the 584 00:41:55.840 --> 00:42:00.519 Open. And he and there was know, oh, try it again, 585 00:42:00.599 --> 00:42:04.679 try it again. He either made it or remissed, and that's when he 586 00:42:04.760 --> 00:42:07.519 left the course. And he didn't just keep going until he made it. 587 00:42:07.639 --> 00:42:12.039 He learned how to handle that and make that pressure. And then, you 588 00:42:12.079 --> 00:42:15.039 know, the other thing is just kind of your your use of time and 589 00:42:15.079 --> 00:42:19.239 the time it takes to get things done on the course and being able to 590 00:42:19.719 --> 00:42:23.679 amp yourself up and more importantly when you go play, slow yourself down, 591 00:42:23.719 --> 00:42:28.280 because that's you know, Lee Trevino was one heck of a golfer. But 592 00:42:28.360 --> 00:42:31.039 if there was a guy who was a gamer, Trevino was it. And 593 00:42:31.159 --> 00:42:36.039 boy could he speed up a match or slow down a match depending on what 594 00:42:36.239 --> 00:42:39.320 he saw his opponent doing. And while you don't have that, you do 595 00:42:39.400 --> 00:42:44.159 have it in stroke play when you start playing good everything's amped up, and 596 00:42:44.159 --> 00:42:45.920 you're like, you don't want to take the joy away, but you kind 597 00:42:45.920 --> 00:42:49.920 of go okay, just you know, operate at a better speed. And 598 00:42:50.000 --> 00:42:52.559 when things aren't going good, you're amped up again and you're kind of going, 599 00:42:52.599 --> 00:42:57.039 god, I wish this day would get over faster. And you take 600 00:42:57.079 --> 00:43:00.000 a little bit of those match play things, just of the simple ones. 601 00:43:00.119 --> 00:43:04.880 Where's your mind, what's your strategy, what equipment do you use? What 602 00:43:04.960 --> 00:43:08.320 could you do in practice playing the golf hole or playing the par threes on 603 00:43:08.360 --> 00:43:13.480 the practice range. You do those things, you might surprise yourself next time 604 00:43:13.519 --> 00:43:15.920 you step out there. And if you're not playing good enough, you simply 605 00:43:15.960 --> 00:43:19.519 look at your playing partners at the turn and you say, what do you 606 00:43:19.559 --> 00:43:22.760 say we play match play to back nine? Because I'm really hating this game 607 00:43:22.840 --> 00:43:30.440 right now. Do you think there's more gamesmanship going on in match play? 608 00:43:30.559 --> 00:43:35.599 Yes? Yes, And I want to say, wow, well, there 609 00:43:35.639 --> 00:43:38.960 there is. And it's kind of like, you know, it's calling for 610 00:43:39.039 --> 00:43:42.920 a ruling and you know, and it's kind of like, I mean, 611 00:43:42.960 --> 00:43:46.960 it's not, but there's there's all the little things about who's further away, 612 00:43:47.199 --> 00:43:50.639 and you know, the caddies are like, well, I got one fifty 613 00:43:50.719 --> 00:43:52.559 one, and the other caddy goes, I got one fifty one. Your 614 00:43:52.599 --> 00:43:57.000 four yards behind us. Yeah, but the green is at such an angle 615 00:43:57.280 --> 00:44:00.000 that we're literally the same. And you know, all of a sudden, 616 00:44:00.239 --> 00:44:02.440 that can help reset a player half the time. If again, if you're 617 00:44:02.480 --> 00:44:08.039 amped up or your energy, your excitement is kind of going. There's all 618 00:44:08.119 --> 00:44:12.639 kinds of little things, you know where you know, you make the pot, 619 00:44:12.679 --> 00:44:15.079 I'm the first one to pot. I make the putt, and I 620 00:44:15.199 --> 00:44:19.039 quietly go put my putter in my bag and I walk right off the green. 621 00:44:19.519 --> 00:44:22.400 And you know, I don't see too much of that. I probably 622 00:44:22.440 --> 00:44:24.960 see it more in the college levels when they get to the r end of 623 00:44:25.039 --> 00:44:30.840 the NCAA's and they're kind of you know, because they've learned all the tricks 624 00:44:30.880 --> 00:44:35.199 from you know, their pros who were the younger generation, and it's going 625 00:44:35.679 --> 00:44:38.880 you know what, if you're in a tough situation, you know, step 626 00:44:38.920 --> 00:44:42.480 back off the ball and throw that grass up in the air, and you 627 00:44:42.480 --> 00:44:45.960 know the other players looking at you, going, there hasn't been a breath 628 00:44:45.960 --> 00:44:49.559 of wind in forty five minutes. Here what is this guy doing? But 629 00:44:49.639 --> 00:44:52.800 all of a sudden, you've got him kind of off of his mindset and 630 00:44:52.840 --> 00:44:57.599 there you go, this is horrible. It's like I'm giving you aways to 631 00:44:57.760 --> 00:45:04.599 cheat legally. Then it's not cheating, then it's taking advantage of the situation. 632 00:45:05.119 --> 00:45:08.119 So who is the best that you ever saw at that kind of gamesmanship 633 00:45:08.159 --> 00:45:14.119 of like knowing that they were being watched by the opponent and wanting to get 634 00:45:14.119 --> 00:45:17.400 in their head. I you know, and with the utmost respect, they 635 00:45:17.440 --> 00:45:24.519 they always said that Ballasteros was one of the greatest at orchestrating you know what 636 00:45:24.719 --> 00:45:28.480 was going to happen in the match, and you know, I mean there'd 637 00:45:28.480 --> 00:45:31.559 be times that you know, I mean, you know his ball is not 638 00:45:31.679 --> 00:45:35.239 plugged, but he thinks the ball is plugged, and yet the thing is 639 00:45:35.239 --> 00:45:38.199 sitting on top of the grass. He was always one for calling for rulings 640 00:45:38.199 --> 00:45:43.000 and I remember years and years ago and it was either at the Masters or 641 00:45:43.079 --> 00:45:49.159 at a Ryder Cup. Ken Green literally stood there while the rules official came 642 00:45:49.199 --> 00:45:52.400 over and it was like, you're not pulling this stuff on me, buddy, 643 00:45:52.599 --> 00:45:59.679 but knowing you know, and just look it's a whole by whole experience 644 00:46:00.079 --> 00:46:07.320 and knowing how to bring that second man on your team, which is nervousness, 645 00:46:07.800 --> 00:46:13.679 it's time, it's rhythm. It's kind of things to either help you 646 00:46:14.159 --> 00:46:17.840 or to kind of throw your opponent off a little bit. I'll tell you 647 00:46:17.880 --> 00:46:21.519 something funny. And this is not a match play thing, but this is 648 00:46:21.519 --> 00:46:27.079 how golfers are. Years and years ago, Tom Kite Brad Faxon and I 649 00:46:27.320 --> 00:46:30.440 forgot who the other person who was involved in this was, but they were 650 00:46:30.480 --> 00:46:37.159 doing an apparel wear with doctor Bob Rittella and certain colors, you know, 651 00:46:37.280 --> 00:46:44.000 and certain patterns, red for confidence and blue for calmness. And Faxon went 652 00:46:44.039 --> 00:46:46.880 to Furman and I remember we played a practice round somewhere when he was off 653 00:46:46.920 --> 00:46:51.960 tour, and on the back of his putter he had this. He had 654 00:46:51.960 --> 00:46:54.000 taken some of the take that the players wrap around their finger, just a 655 00:46:54.039 --> 00:46:59.840 white adhesive tape and it had a little kind of part of it was colored 656 00:46:59.840 --> 00:47:02.760 in with a black sharpie and it was white in the middle and it was 657 00:47:04.519 --> 00:47:07.199 blue on the other side. And I said, oh, facts, I 658 00:47:07.239 --> 00:47:09.599 know you got all this stuff going. What's what's that tape for? And 659 00:47:09.639 --> 00:47:13.000 he goes said, that's kind of hard to explain, And I said, 660 00:47:13.000 --> 00:47:15.559 no, I know you got the you guys got this and reds for that, 661 00:47:15.639 --> 00:47:16.320 and I go, what's you know? What does it help you with? 662 00:47:16.960 --> 00:47:21.800 I must asked him questions on that for four holes and then finally looked 663 00:47:21.800 --> 00:47:24.400 at me and he goes, Joe, it means nothing. But you haven't 664 00:47:24.440 --> 00:47:27.960 been thinking about your game for the last four holes. All you're doing is 665 00:47:27.960 --> 00:47:30.800 asking me about this piece of tape on my putter. And he goes, 666 00:47:30.159 --> 00:47:37.480 and guys on tour are doing the same thing. Oh, that's the greatest 667 00:47:37.519 --> 00:47:45.239 story that is. Isn't it incredible? Because everybody knew what a great putter 668 00:47:45.320 --> 00:47:47.039 Faction was and if you know, He's like, what does that tape do? 669 00:47:47.119 --> 00:47:50.239 What does that tape do? Do I need to tape because faction is 670 00:47:50.239 --> 00:47:52.480 one of the best butters I've ever seen. What does it? Does it 671 00:47:52.519 --> 00:47:54.079 help the ball roll better? Does it give you confidence? Does it keep 672 00:47:54.119 --> 00:47:58.400 your cross eyed? They're trying to figure out a million things, and he's 673 00:47:58.519 --> 00:48:02.199 just just colored and put on the back of my plutter because and all you 674 00:48:02.400 --> 00:48:05.840 all you've worried about is that beas to take for the last four holes. 675 00:48:05.880 --> 00:48:07.280 I was like, Oh, man, did I ever there's a life lesson 676 00:48:07.280 --> 00:48:12.679 you guys sucked in? And who wouldn't Oh, my god, that is 677 00:48:12.760 --> 00:48:15.719 so good. Uh, what do you guys coming up this winter? What 678 00:48:15.760 --> 00:48:20.000 do you you know? I mean you're in Florida right, so well golf 679 00:48:20.239 --> 00:48:24.920 I will I will be heading out again this winter towards PGA West for a 680 00:48:24.920 --> 00:48:30.840 few months. And as where we did your last interview, because you were 681 00:48:30.840 --> 00:48:34.280 outdoors now you were, yes, yes, in the cave. Now, 682 00:48:34.880 --> 00:48:37.920 we we have so much going on at our course at Legends. We just 683 00:48:38.159 --> 00:48:45.039 redid the range and rested everything. The Vanderbilt golf team bases out of there 684 00:48:45.199 --> 00:48:51.079 and they are building a clubhouse next to their team clubhouse, which is the 685 00:48:51.079 --> 00:48:54.480 same size as their clubhouse and it's awesome. So that is currently we were 686 00:48:54.480 --> 00:48:58.960 done with the range. We're rebuilding. Uh, they're adding on to the 687 00:48:58.960 --> 00:49:05.559 team house and about ten days we are renovating our clubhouse. So I mean, 688 00:49:05.840 --> 00:49:07.920 I feel like I should go buy Loew's or Home Depot, buy a 689 00:49:08.000 --> 00:49:10.840 yellow hard hat and go anyone that wants to come out for a lesson, 690 00:49:12.400 --> 00:49:17.360 come on, let's go. And what should we be thinking about this winter? 691 00:49:19.519 --> 00:49:23.039 Oh man, you know it's do you put down your New Year's resolution 692 00:49:23.199 --> 00:49:29.679 tips or do you literally I would tell you this much. Just get a 693 00:49:29.719 --> 00:49:35.039 little get an index card or put it on a quick little note on your 694 00:49:35.320 --> 00:49:39.159 on your iPhone or iPad, you know, and it's I forget who that. 695 00:49:39.199 --> 00:49:44.920 I think it was the the Cubs manager who they're saying was don't suck. 696 00:49:45.199 --> 00:49:50.440 It's like, figure out what you're the worst at. And in the 697 00:49:50.480 --> 00:49:54.599 old adage, just maybe it's a new piece of equipment, maybe it's a 698 00:49:54.719 --> 00:50:00.079 different way to practice, Maybe it's taking a lesson. Don't suck. You 699 00:50:00.119 --> 00:50:01.800 know, if you got one part of your game that, oh, you 700 00:50:01.800 --> 00:50:06.239 know, I'm great at everything except bunkers. Well, you know when you're 701 00:50:06.239 --> 00:50:08.119 gonna play your best golf when you don't hit a bunker. But I'm going 702 00:50:08.199 --> 00:50:12.039 to tell you that ain't gonna happen all too often. And you know, 703 00:50:12.119 --> 00:50:15.760 maybe it's spare way bunkers. Find that one area of your game and be 704 00:50:15.840 --> 00:50:20.960 real honest with yourself and commit a little bit of attention to it, because, 705 00:50:21.000 --> 00:50:23.679 as Harvey Penock once said, you know, every part of this game 706 00:50:23.760 --> 00:50:27.920 is related to everything. You know, if you have a good grip and 707 00:50:28.000 --> 00:50:30.400 putting, you're probably going to have a good grip and chipping. So anything 708 00:50:30.440 --> 00:50:35.400 you would learn with a new technique is going to carry over into another part 709 00:50:35.440 --> 00:50:43.159 of your game and then the catastrophe is sort of avoided. H awesome Joe. 710 00:50:44.079 --> 00:50:46.960 As always, you're just so much fun to have on because we just 711 00:50:47.000 --> 00:50:51.079 don't know where it's gonna go, and it always ends at the pot of 712 00:50:51.079 --> 00:50:53.599 the end of the rainbow. Thank you so much for coming back on BRED. 713 00:50:53.679 --> 00:50:57.519 I look forward to the next time, and as always, thanks for 714 00:50:57.559 --> 00:51:02.440 making this fun. And if I didn't mention it already, and this is 715 00:51:02.480 --> 00:51:07.519 the first time you've heard one of our conversations with Joe Hallett. He's a 716 00:51:07.559 --> 00:51:15.159 PGA Master Professional, which means he's the instructor that teaches PGA instructors. And 717 00:51:15.400 --> 00:51:21.880 if he's having this much fun doing that, why aren't we having more fun 718 00:51:21.920 --> 00:51:25.719 on the golf course too. Speaking of frustration, I had one of those 719 00:51:25.800 --> 00:51:30.159 rounds last weekend where my confidence was high, was scoring well, having a 720 00:51:30.159 --> 00:51:36.599 great time, only six over after twelve holes. Then what seemed to be 721 00:51:36.679 --> 00:51:40.320 out of nowhere, I fell into a double bogie funk over four of the 722 00:51:40.360 --> 00:51:45.840 next five holes. That's not where my game is these days, but that's 723 00:51:45.880 --> 00:51:50.960 golf, right. I was tracking the ball well, but my short game 724 00:51:51.079 --> 00:51:58.159 just disappeared, reminding me who is the boss the golf course. But thanks 725 00:51:58.199 --> 00:52:01.840 to all the insights that I've learned from our great instructors, I didn't lose 726 00:52:01.880 --> 00:52:07.239 my cool. I stayed with my preshot routine, kept drinking water and played 727 00:52:07.280 --> 00:52:14.119 on Luckily part number eighteen, a great finishing hole with water all the way 728 00:52:14.239 --> 00:52:17.039 down the right side leading up to the edge of the green. But still 729 00:52:17.079 --> 00:52:22.440 it's a hole that always introduces doubt to everyone who's ever played it. The 730 00:52:22.519 --> 00:52:28.800 highlight of the day was running into a Golf Smarter listener and upcoming ambassador David 731 00:52:28.880 --> 00:52:32.719 Lamb, who recognized my voice in the parking lot. That was a first 732 00:52:32.760 --> 00:52:37.000 for me. Well, we had a great visit and hopefully we'll be playing 733 00:52:37.039 --> 00:52:43.000 together in the near future. Now, this week's Ambassador, Sergio le' levier, 734 00:52:43.559 --> 00:52:49.519 gets a special shout out for two reasons. One Sergio seventy five years 735 00:52:49.519 --> 00:52:54.760 young and he's still playing golf, and he's listening to podcasts. And why 736 00:52:54.800 --> 00:52:59.760 did I say two? I get meant three reasons. He's our one hundredth 737 00:52:59.760 --> 00:53:04.840 and ambassador to introduce an episode. Sergio is from Sierra Madre, California, 738 00:53:04.880 --> 00:53:09.719 and because he followed our simple instructions on how to record his episode opening that 739 00:53:10.039 --> 00:53:15.599 took less than a minute. He received a private link to Tony Manzoni's video 740 00:53:15.079 --> 00:53:20.719 The Loss Fundamental. As of right now, we've got enough listeners sharing where 741 00:53:20.719 --> 00:53:23.920 they're from and where they play for the next twenty weeks, but I'd still 742 00:53:24.000 --> 00:53:29.320 like to hear from you too, And when you become a Golf Smarter Ambassador, 743 00:53:29.719 --> 00:53:32.360 you'll have a choice of a free gift. 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