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Hi everyone, I'm Tanya and I'm
Talia and we are Crimes and Consequences,

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a true crime podcast. Hi Talia, Hi Tanya. I have a new

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episode for everyone today, So welcome
back to all of our listeners. Welcome

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back. Before I get into the
story this week, I would like to

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We're not picky. So this is
a story that I've never heard of and

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it was requested by Amy d and
she's from Belfast, Ireland. A tactical

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firearms officer for the Thames Valley Police
found himself in a bizarre situation on August

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nineteenth, nineteen eighty seven. It
was otherwise a quiet and ordinary day in

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the small town of Hungerford. The
officer had been trained in conflict resolution and

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he worked on lots of severe cases. But this isn't like domestic violence or

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are we talking like yeah, I
think so, maybe like this and stuff

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like that. There was a man
who had barricaded himself inside the empty John

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o'gaunt school, and he was asking
him to surrender and talk. The man

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coldly replied, quote, Hungerford must
be a bit of a mess. None

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of this would have happened if my
car would have started. End. Quote

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what does that mean? It's weird? Right, within minutes, the Hungerford

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massacre would come to a shocking end. And now, even thirty six years

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later, nobody knows exactly how it
started. Well, the car didn't start,

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Yeah right, yes, carwouldn't start. Hungerford is a small market town

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around fifty eight hundred people in Berkshire, England. And I'm sure I'm saying

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it wrong. It's England. I
know the town sits sixty miles west of

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London and is in close proximity to
Salisbury and Marlborough. Hungerford is precisely what

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one might picture like a little English
town might be. There's schools, doctors,

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dentists. There's open spaces like lots
of land where children can play.

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Many residents raise chicken and livestock in
their backyards, and it's considered a quiet,

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peaceful place to live, or it
was, or it was, interestingly

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outside of the Hungerford massacre. The
town hit another crime connection as it was

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the birthplace of a man named Robert
Snooks, who was the last highwayman to

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be hanged for robbery in England in
eighteen o two. That's quite a gap

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in crying. It's almost like two
hundred years before I get into the actual

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story. It's important to go through
the UK's stance and laws surrounding firearms and

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their ownership, because it's a lot
different there than it is here in the

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US. Okay, it becomes difficult
to pinpoint the exact laws, as England

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and Wales have separate laws from Scotland, from Northern Ireland, the Isle of

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Man and other islands. In the
United Kingdom, in most cases, the

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ownership of fully automatic, submachine and
pump action rifles is illegal. Handguns are

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also prohibited for public use. Some
rifles and shotguns are allowed, However,

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there are strict specifications that must be
met, like I'm thinking they probably use

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them for hunting and things like that. According to the United Kingdom's government website,

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a person must apply for a license
to own a firearm and demonstrate quote

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good reason to own it. I
want to kill someone exactly, they would

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probably not get you a license.
Collectors, hobby shooters and farmers are often

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granted licenses under these strict conditions.
The police also conduct checks to ensure firearms

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are being stored correctly. So there's
just a ton of technicalities that you have

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to go through in order to own
a firearm. And in nineteen ninety six,

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the gun laws in the United Kingdom
took a drastic turn following the the

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Blame massacre where sixteen children and one
teacher were killed in Scotland. Oh,

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shooting sprees are uncommon in the United
Kingdom, fortunately for them. And that's

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the last of your little firearms,
all right. August nineteenth, nineteen eighty

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seven. As I mentioned, it's
a typical Wednesday for thirty three year old

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Susan Godfrey. That morning, Susan
packed her two children, Hannah who was

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four and James, who was two, the car and she drove to Savernanc

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Forest for a little picnic. Following
the picnic, the family was due to

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attend of birthday party and Susan wanted
to make sure the children ate before they

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got to the party. She took
him to a picnic. Yeah, and

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around noon Susan pulled into an isolated
clearing and began setting up the picnic.

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She got the blanket from the car's
trunk. She laid it on the ground

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when she heard something behind her a
shit oh. Before she had time to

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react, she felt the presence of
another person. It was a man and

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he was armed. Twenty seven year
old Michael Robert Ryan had been watching Susan

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and her children through the trees.
He was watching, and he was waiting,

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crappy. He was dressed in paramilitary
terrifying right and army gear as if

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he was on like a recommission some
rambo shit right. Michael barked orders at

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Susan and structing her to walk into
the foe. She complied, and then

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she felt the barrel of a gun
stuck in her back. Michael laid down

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a sheet on the ground before he
made Susan lay on it, and then

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he shot her thirteen times. What
and Susan late dying. Michael marched out

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of the woods, ignoring her two
screaming children at this time, just going

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to ask where the kids were.
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She didn't gotten him out of the
car yet. Michael got into his

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car and drove out of the Severn
Nick Forest. Susan's body was discovered sometime

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later after her two children were found
roaming in the forest. And remember they're

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four and two. Yeah, so
they somehow buckled. Yeah, I'm sure

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Hannah, who was formed, she
probably figured it out. Figured it out,

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Yeah, she did, and she
unbuckled her and her brother's belts before

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they went looking for their mom.
Oh man. Yeah. The Thames Valley

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Police were called to the scene.
Spent shell casings were littering the ground on

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which Susan Godfrey lay. Little did
the Thames Valley Police know that this was

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just the start of one of the
UK's worst mass shootings. I never heard

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of this either. So I'll tell
you a little bit about Michael Robert Ryan.

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Oh please tell me about this asshole. Right. He was born May

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eighteenth, nineteen sixty to his parents, Alfred and Dorothy, and he was

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born in Hungerford. The Ryan family
dynamic differed somewhat from those around them and

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Michael's parents because they were older when
he was born. Alfred had a different

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view of family life and left his
wife Dorothy to raise Michael. Alfred instead

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focused on work and I don't mean
he left the family. I mean like

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it was her major responsibility to raise
awife. She's a housewife, homemaker,

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and he focused on work and putting
food on the table. From the very

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beginning, Michael was different. He
was far more sullen than other children,

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and he didn't mix well with others. A strange little kid from the start.

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Boys in elementary school they all get
together and they play games, and

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you know, they play football,
and they do all those kinds of things

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that you normally think little boys do. But Michael preferred to sit alone and

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just like fantasize in his mind,
like he was more okay okay. He

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was never a high achiever, and
he coasted through school. He was apparently

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bullied, which only made him more
introverted. Those who grew up around him

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stated he was a mommy's boy,
and his parents, especially as Mom,

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gave him whatever he wanted, so
he spoiled. Yes, he was over

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indulgent, and he didn't even know
the meaning of the word No. He

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just got everything you wanted. As
Michael grew older, he became interested in

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the army and military and that kind
of shit. Most boys' age also had

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an interest in army and weapons,
but Michael took it to the extreme.

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He became obsessed with guns and ammy
mission, subscribing to magazines and reading as

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many books as possible. He also
began morphing himself into like a little paramilitary

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soldier, no, visiting the local
army surplus stores and picking out camouflage clothes.

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And that was a fashion statement.
All right, all right, it's

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a fantasy, he say, exactly. In one shocking incident, a childhood

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friend recalled the day Michael's interests took
a turn for the bazaar. At the

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bottom of the Ryan's property, the
family had a barn where they kept animals

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and grew crops. One afternoon,
Michael and his friends ventured into the barn,

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where Michael began blasting the door with
his air rifle. Yeah, something

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in his mind just changed, and
days later he became a member of the

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local gun club, where he shot
pistols and rifles. Michael was reportedly a

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good shooter and often won awards and
competitions. Others at the gun club were

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friendly with him, but Michael didn't
know really how to recip kate. He

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continued visiting the gun club throughout his
teenage years. And into adulthood, his

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interest in survivalism grew. Oh boy, I know, and he bought himself

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a flak jacket. What's that like? A bulletproof jacket? Everybody needs one

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of them, right, You never
know, Leah. I mean here in

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America, it's probably a smart purchase. But I mean, you get shot

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going to the grocery store. But
I think in the United Kingdom is a

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little different. Tensions in Michael's mind
were increasing, as was his gun collection,

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and something's about to crack. Michael's
about to crack. Yeah. After

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leaving seven Lake Forest in his first
victim Susan behind, Michael drove his Vowhall

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Astraw to the Golden Aero Service,
which is a gas station in Froxfield,

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which is really close to Hungerford.
According to the gas station owners, Michael

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was a regular customer who would fill
up with small amounts of gasoline, pay

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and then leave without really just engaging
much conversation. I don't know his business

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and got out. Yeah, but
August nineteenth was different. Mister Dean,

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the server on duty that day,
I think they must have like people who

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pump your gas. Oh back in
the day, ye, back in the

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day. She noticed that Michael looked
distracted in days. She saw him standing

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at the pump filling his car with
more and more gas than usual. At

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one point, gas almost spilled out
of the tank. As Michael was in

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such a day's like he just wasn't
paying attention. Zoned out, Yeah,

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zoned out, just pumping his gas. After filling his car, Michael filled

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a gasolene camp Oh Boy, and
he waited for the only customer to leave.

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Right slowly, he walked towards the
booth where Miss Deane was sitting.

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She believed he was there to pay
for the gasolene, but instantly her life

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changed. Shit. I know,
Michael Withdrew's guy and shot once into the

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booth. Incredibly, she was able
to duck out of the way of the

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bullet for her right how terrifying though, but undeterred, Michael walked to the

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side of the booth where there was
a larger opening, and he pointed the

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barrel directly at her head. And
I don't know if it was Locke or

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God was on her side, but
the gun either jammed or ran out of

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bullets and she survived. Wow.
Realizing what happened, Michael ran into his

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car merged on to the A four, which is heading toward Hungerford, so

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it's a highway. She called the
police, who were then beginning to put

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the incidents together, like, oh, this is the same weirdo. Fifteen

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minutes later, Michael arrived at Southfu, the street where he had grown up.

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The home that he grew up on. Southfu held many happy memories for

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the Ryan family, and at this
point in nineteen eighty seven, it was

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just Michael and his mother living there
because his father had passed away a few

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years earlier. He went into his
childhoot home and grabbed his arsenal of weapons.

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He took a nine millimeter handgun,
it was a Barrettas semi automatic pistol,

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an M one carbine assault rifle,
an AK forty seven rifle. Oh

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shit, and he took hundreds of
rounds of ammunition. Dorothy Ryan, Michael's

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mom. She wasn't home at the
time, so thank god. Yeah,

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well, Michael was left to do
whatever he wanted. And yeah, no

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one there to stop him. I
don't know if his mother would have stopped

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him, she would have noticed,
right, you don't know. After stacking

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up, Michael headed to his car
with a full tank of gas and tried

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to start it, but it kind
of sputtered. The sputtering continued. Oh

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shit, this is where the car
doesn't start right, Like this just pissed

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him off. His car's just sputtering, and it was his only possible escape

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from what he's created so far.
I mean, he's already left one person,

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dad, but he was going to
do more in the car. He's

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gonna drive somewhere, right, And
shit, he stacked up on all this,

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right, he wasn't just what weapons
going to McDonald's get a burder,

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No, that's true. He needed
his car to go kill Moore, to

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kill kill Moore. So he's all
pissed. So he shoots his car five

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times. Oh yeah, in a
fit of rage. His fury had reached

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its crescendo. He grabbed the gasoline
can, headed into his childhood home and

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just doused everything in sight. Seconds
later, Yeah, the house is now

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engulfed in flames, and that's not
going to get attention. And hello,

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yeah, well he's got no vehicle
to take off. The shots and the

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fire certainly attracted the attention of the
residence on the street, and just a

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few doors down from Michael's home,
Ronald Mason was outside fixing his fence.

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Michael Ryan walked towards Ronald as if
he was going to strike up a conversation,

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but instead he shot him. Yeah. He pulled out one of his

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many guns and shot Ronald six times. Oh man. He then turned to

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Ronald's wife, Sheila, who was
outside as well. He shot her once,

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and Sheila and Ronald died at the
scene. Michael continued walking along the

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road, almost as if he hadn't
just shut two more people dead in broad

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daylight and burned his house down,
and burned his fucking house down, And

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before I tell you more, we're
gonna take a break. The next house

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he came across was that of Marjorie
Jackson. The time was close to one

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pm, and the commotion had attracted
attention along South Few Street. So this

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isn't far from his house though,
right right, yeah, this is yeah,

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I think this is the next house
after Ronald Mason. We jeez.

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Marjorie watched from the window as Michael
shut indiscriminately. Then he turned to her.

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He stormed up the driveway, shooting
at her through the window. A

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bullet hit Marjorie in the back,
forcing her to the ground. I know.

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She spent the rest of the afternoon
keeping load of the ground while ending

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to her wound. It would take
several hours for emergency services to be allowed

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down that street. Oh my gosh, they barricaded like the street. Yeah,

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and by that point it was too
late for some of these residents.

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Michael continued the rampage, making his
way down the street. Children and teenagers

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were playing on the roads when they
heard instructions to go outside, but the

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instructions weren't from their parents, but
instead from Michael himself. Throughout his rampage,

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he made it clear that he had
no intention of shooting children, at

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least for the most part. Well, why didn't they come down the street

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and try to get him? Right? I don't understand. I don't understand

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he didn't want to hurt children.
I mean, he did leave Susan's children.

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That's so kind of know alive,
I know, so kind. Fourteen

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year old Lisa Mildenhall would be Michael's
next victim. She's still a child,

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I know, exactly like the other
children. She had scrambled to the front

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door of her home, praying that
the knob would slide open with ease and

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leader to safety, but just as
she reached the front door, Michael shot

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her in the legs and stomach.
She survived her injuries, and she didn't

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make it inside her home to safety. Sylvia Pasco, who lived next door,

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recalled hearing a frightened Lisa running into
her home before she fell silent and

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collapsed. South Few Street has a
path to what is called Hungerford Common and

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it's a large field with some brush
and trees. And after walking their dog

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in the commons, fifty one year
old Kenneth Clements and his family walked on

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to Southfew Street. Ambieknownst to Kenneth
and his family. They stepped in the

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middle of this shit. Michael shot
Kenneth point blank, but allowed the rest

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of the family to flee. At
twelve fifty eight pm, Police Constable PC

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Roger Brereton received orders to drive on
to south Few Street and secure the scene.

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PC Brereton had worked as a traffic
officer in Newbury for the Thames Valley

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Police. Oh it's a little bit
more than traffic going all right. As

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he pulled his car onto Southview,
he was met with a hail of bullets

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twenty three to be exact, and
four of which hit him, killing him

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in small fuck. As this fucked, the Thames Valley Police arrived at the

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scene. More officers arrived shortly after
and found one of their own dead.

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Roadblocks had been set up, but
angry residents were eager to get through.

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At this point, the Thames Valley
Police didn't disclose why the roads were closed

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or even what was going on,
So people are like, why why can't

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they get down? The block is
happening? What's going on? While the

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rest of Hungerford went about their lives, Michael was committing one of the worst

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spree killings in British history, and
many residents were unaware of even what was

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unfolding in their little town. I
told it, it's only like fifty eight

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hundred people in this town. Mother
and daughter, Linda and Alison Chapman,

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were driving along Southview around one o'clock
when they saw a bright flash. They

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had been shot at. I thought
it was it was like barricaded or blocked

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off. How'd they get dried?
I don't know. I think while the

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police I think showed up a little
after that because PC Brereton was there about

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one o'clock too. They had been
shot at. They would join the evergrowing

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list of Hungerford victims. Incredibly,
both mother and daughter survived, although according

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to the BBC, Alison was left
permanently disabled after a bullet penetrated her spine.

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I know, Michael seemed not to
care whether he left living victims,

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and he didn't return to ensure that
they were dead, Like you just want

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to call, you just want to
cause damage? Yeah, he shot it

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whatever and listic, right, I
mean, once he fired at them,

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he just moved on to the next
victim. People who knew Michael all of

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their lives had suddenly been faced with
a gun to the heads. Many tried

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to talk him down or played for
their lives, but their please went unanswered.

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What the fuck? I know,
Michael was despondent and almost in another

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world. Entirely nothing mattered to him, and he carried on moving like a

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robot or a soldier, following orders. Well, one thing mattered to him,

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yeah, kill, shooting as many
people as they possibly could. George

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White and Ivor Jackson, who was
Marjorie Jackson's husband, were turning on to

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Southview in their Toyota Crown when they
too were shot. George died instantly,

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but I've survived, I ever told
the BBC he played dead in an attempt

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to save himself. He waited,
holding his breath and closing his eyes until

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he heard the footsteps like gradually fade. That's gotta be terrifying. I've often

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thought like, how could I play
dead? I don't know. I feel

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like i'd be a hot mess,
right, like I think i'd be like

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in such a panic. I don't
think I could slow down my breathing all

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right, I wouldn't think straight right
like I think again, Oh, for

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sure, i'd be dead in any
type of situation like that. We're like,

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fuck you fuck, I know,
I'm for sure. I don't.

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I don't do well in those kinds
of situations. I'm guessing I can't calm

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myself down. I'm thinking, I
mean, I've never been in this situation.

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But eighty four year old Abdul Khan, he was shot three times by

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Michael as he Modus Grass. He's
still He's out there, Monus fucking Grass.

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Hello, there's a house burning.
Gun shots? What's going on?

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Buddy? I know these people are
like giant yards or something, But I

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don't knock a house burning. I
know, I ever remembers opening his eyes

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and seeing Dorothy Ryan, Michael's mom. After spending the day at the market,

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she had just returned to Southew Street
in the middle of Oh shit,

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can you imagine? Oh man,
I beat his ass, Get over your

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Michael. She got there, she
was like, what the hell is going

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on? You are grounded? Her
house is burned down, right, I

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mean yeah, yeah. Bodies were
all over the streets. The air was

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filled with just people like, screaming, panicking, groaning. Still want like,

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why the why the police aren't doing
something? I know, but maybe

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it all happened in a few minutes. I don't know. Dorothy ran toward

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her son. She was going to
try and comfort him. She'd done throughout

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his life. Don't tell me,
Michael, though, he wasn't really interested

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in that at this point. No, what he didn't want cuddling right now

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at this moment, Okay, Dorothy
was the only woman and possibly the only

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person Michael had really ever loved,
and if somebody could talk him down,

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it was her. But when she
reached her arms out for a hug,

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she was shot, you you were
gonna say that, point blank? Stop

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it? In the oh fu And
he watched her die. What the mother

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fuck right? The Tames Railey police
had set up a command post on Southview

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and he had instructed Michael to lay
down his weapons and surrender. Okay,

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Michael had also shot several other residents, who thankfully survived. I had.

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Around one twenty pm, Michael left
Southview, taking a meandering path that led

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to the Hunger for Common. Along
the path lay the War Memorial Recreation Grounds,

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where Michael found his next victim,
who was twenty six year old Francis

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Butler, who was walking his dog. Francis was shot several times and left

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to die in the gravel. Michael
took off as if he was on a

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peaceful summer walk. I mean,
he wasn't running anywhere, he wasn't in

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a pan taking a stroll with his
fucking gun. Was his fucking guns.

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Minutes later, thirty year old Marcus
Bernard was shot through his car window.

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According to the Crime and Investigation Network, Marcus was driving to a nearby hospital

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to visit his wife, who had
just given birth to their son. Oh

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no, Michael watched as Marcus slumped
over the steering wheel. For a brief

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moment, he had clarity. The
ak forty seven killing machine he had used

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to kill Marcus Francis and others minutes
earlier, now represented something horrific to him.

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Anna Bazarre ritual. Michael laid the
gun on the ground and he stared

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at it, perhaps hoping that this
was all just some weird dream. He

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was in, what the hell is
this? Within seconds, though, the

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murderous rampage once again started. Oh
so, he had just ate very briefly.

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He had a brief moment. He
laid down the gun. He kind

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of was like, what the fuck? And then he's like I made a

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mistake. And he's like, nope, no, and he picked up the

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AK forty seven, threw the strap
over his shoulder, and he carried on

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walking down the path in the commons, like fuck it. Off duty police

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officer Truv Waynewright knew what was happening
in Southfield. His wife had called him

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moments earlier in a panic after hearing
a bullet spray over their back garden.

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PC Waynewright of the Thames Valley Police
had vetted Michael a year prior, in

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nineteen eighty six, when he applied
for an upgrade to his firearms license.

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How much of an upgrade you need
to get at AK forty seven. Well,

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I think you probably needed a lot
like you can get a pistol this

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soul launchers. PC Waynwright saw that
Michael had no criminal history and there were

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no concerns for his mental well being, so he granted the upgrade, allowing

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Michael to own high powered weapons,
the very weapons he was using. After

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leaving the Common, Michael arrived at
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Walking along Priory Avenue, he came
side by side with a car inside

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Sat Douglas and Kathleen Waynewright, the
parents of PC Trevor Wingwright, the off

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duty police officer I just talked about. Kathleen and Douglas had recently sold their

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house in Tent which was about one
hundred miles away, and they came to

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Hungerford to visit their son. Michael
shot Douglas twice in the head and once

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in the chest. Kathleen did survive. She crawled out the passenger seat and

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crouched outside. Michael reloaded his gun
but walked away, allowing her to live.

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Eric Vardy and Stephen Ball were driving
up Terence Hill, unaware of what

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was going on that this rampage was
happening. Eric was shot as he drove.

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He died sometimes later due to his
injuries. The teams Valley Police were

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desperately trying to lock down the area, but the roads and avenues snaked into

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one another, giving him many escape
rounds. And there's pathways and stata And

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I'm thinking they probably aren't prepared for
this type. Yeah, it's a tiny

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town. I don't think police are
usually prepared for some crazy ass wild mass

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shooting. So Wednesday was market Day
in Hungerford and turning left onto Priory Avenue

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took you straight to the market square. Oh shit, I'm picturing like a

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farmer's market. Yeah. Michael was
confronted with a choice. Is he going

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to go left toward this market square
or is he going to go right?

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Left, like I said, would
take him to this busy market. No,

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I would go if I was him, Hell, yeah, you're gonna

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choose many people. But he chose
to bear to the right, making his

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way along Terence Hill. After a
short walk, he found another victim,

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twenty two year old Sandra Hill,
who he shot once in the chest.

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Even though Michael had done a lot
of walking, he really didn't cover all

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that much ground. By two pm, his adrenaline rush was beginning to slow

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down. So what has it been
like an hour? Yeah, this has

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been like an hour maybe a little
more. And let's not forget Susan,

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right, Oh, yeah, Susan, because that was I think that was

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probably around noon. Yeah, so
probably this has been two hours. You're

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right, His drenaline's coming down.
But shortly after he shot Sandra in the

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chest, he turned his gun on
Victor Gibbs and his wife, who used

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a wheelchair. What what her name
was, Myrtle? Oh, Myrtle and

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the wheelchair, the wheelchair and Victor
died instantly, and she died later.

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Shortly before two pm, Michael claimed
his sixteenth fatality. Sixteenth fatalitytality thirty four

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year old Ian Lale I hope,
I'm saying that right. He was hit

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by a bullet to the neck.
Ian had brought his family along with him

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to Hungerford for a shopping trip,
and he died two days later on August

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twenty first, at the hospital.
By this point, Michael's, like I

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said, he's coming down from the
adrenaline. Is buzz a certain wear off.

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Maybe le's go look the bathroom,
getting hungry. I mean at some

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point, I mean hours into this
ship. You're a human. I'm just

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saying, I know, slow it
down. He was beginning to count.

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Are heavy too, right, by
the way, Yeah, they are carrying

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that around for I've never hit an
AK forty seven. I don't know,

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but I mean a handgun's heavy.
Yeah, I don't know. To me,

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it is a sorry side trick.
I'm saying. He was beginning to

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come to terms with what he'd done. Had he really killed his mother?

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Yeah, I mean the only person
he had ever loved in cold blood?

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He fucking did. Yeah, he
fucking did. Nearly two pm, teams

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Valley Police and Tactical Response Units received
word that Michael had just been spotted walking

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into John o'gaunt Secondary High School.
Please tell me school's non in session.

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No, it is empty because it's
August. And this is where we started

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the story. Oh yeah, Michael
had attended John o'gaunt as a teenager some

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twelve years earlier, and it was
a place where he had faced the most

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bully. Yeah, I being asked, right, all right? All right?

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Luckily for the police, like you
mentioned, the school was shut down

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for the past six weeks. You
know it's summertime and students were not due

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back until the first week of September. Every entrance and exit to the school

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was closed off. So now Michael's
barricaded himself in sight and I was just

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a waiting game. Huntygan in if
everything's closed. Oh yeah, he's a

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gun girl. He probably blew off
a block or something. I don't mean,

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I've seen. I don't know.
Michael still had three weapons, and

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he still had plenty of ammunition.
Even the tactical response unit each of those

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officers only had one weapon each.
I know he's only one person, but

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at least he's contained. Yeah,
exactly, Slowly but surely. The police

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began to close a circle around the
school, putting as much pressure as they

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could on Michael. He had an
advantage though, is he was familiar with

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the school's layout. Yeah, but
you can only be in that school for

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so long. Eat their chocolate pudding
in the cafeteria. Do they even ham

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chocolate pudding? I don't know.
You got to leave. Yeah, but

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for hours the police and Michael were
in a standoff, and around five thirty

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pm is when the Thames Valley Police
finally pinpointed exactly where he was in the

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school is a lot of hours.
Yeah, this is all fucking a dude.

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Michael knew there was no way out
of this. He's just like,

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you know, yeah, there is
no way. No, you're fucked.

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Basically, officers held their breath as
they saw an arm reach out the window.

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Snipers and firearms officers were ready to
shoot at a moment's notice, but

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Michael was hanging onto a white cloth
at the window. Oh police, yeah,

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letting the officers know he wanted to
surrender or at least talk. A

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line of communication between Michael and a
crisis responder was created, and one of

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the first things Michael asked for it
was his mother. Okay, nobody,

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No, dude, you've shot her
point blank in the head, right,

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Like, what do you think?
So why, he asked. They're not

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sure exactly. He knew he had
shot her, like you said, plant

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blank. The crisis responder and Michael
talked, and it seemed to Michael may

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have been opening to surrendering. He
asked the officer if his dog had been

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found safe and well following the house
fire. Oh yeah, that's right,

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and whether they had discovered his m
one carbine. Michael asked about it not

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for himself, but because he was
worried children may use it and hurt themselves

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or someone else. Makes no sense, but Michael wouldn't budge no matter how

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hard the negotiator tried to get him
to come out of the school. Then

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just sit it out, Michael threw
his AK forty seven out the window,

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leaving him now with just the Baretta
nine millimeter pistol. Buy six forty five

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pm, communications had broken down,
and that's when he told the officer Hungerford

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must be a bit of a mess. None of this would have happened if

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my car would have started. It's
just right. I don't know what to

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say about that. No, Michael, none of this would have happened if

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you weren't fucking nuts exactly. And
then he said, it's funny, I've

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killed all those people, but I
don't have the guts to blow my own

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brains out. Well, why don't
you put your head out the window.

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Yeah, we'll do it for you. I'll help you out. For several

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minutes, Michael stayed silent, pondering
his next move. Officers prepared to move

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in or accept his surrender. At
six fifty two pm, a solitary shot

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rang out from the classroom. Michael
Robert Ryan was dead if did it.

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He finally mustered up the courage.
After hearing the shot, officers knew the

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operation was over. In just six
hours, Michael Ryan had killed sixteen people

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and wounded fifteen others. Damn the
small town of Hungerford had been plunged into

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chaos, all at the hands of
one man. Richard Auger of the Technical

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Firearms Response un It was there when
Michael took his own life. He told

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the media that at that point he
felt sorry for Michael, who seemed quote

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pathetic and lost. The Hungerford massacre
would remain the UK's largest spree killing until

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nineteen ninety six, when a lone
gunman opened fire at Deblaine School in Scotland.

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Like I mentioned earlier, the Hungerford
massacre sparked the Hungerford Report, which

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explored how Michael had obtained these weapons
and what could be done to prevent further

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tragedies. Following the report, the
Firearms Act of nineteen eighty eight was passed,

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which banned the purchase and ownership of
semi automatic rifles and restricted pump action

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shotguns from having no more than three
Cartridges. One victim's family remarked that while

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they're glad he's dead and not living
in prison at the taxpayers' expenses, they

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also feel robbed of an explanation.
Michael didn't even know. How do you

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explain anyway? He said it was
car, wasn't origin. He was getting

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upset, right there is that he
just snapped? And is there any logical

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explanation you could give to do this? I know, is there any like

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the shootings that we know about that
happened. No, there's no. Yeah,

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people, it's just rage, right. Criminal psychologist Professor Jackson concluded that

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Michael Ryan's rampage was not planned,
but he hasn't been able to pinpoint the

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exact cause, and I don't think
psychologists will ever be able to. Yeah,

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they didn't even examine them. Michael
had no criminal history and he was

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legally allowed to obtain the firearms he
did. Since to Blaine in nineteen ninety

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six, there have been very few
spree killings with a gun in the United

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Kingdom. And that's the end of
my story. And I'm not even going

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to go into my own beliefs about
these stupid, fucking mass shootings that we

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have all the time because I would
just not go I'm not get on myself.

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Yeah, please don't. I don't
want to hear it. I've already

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heard it. I had a cousin
who was in the last Vegas shooting WOW

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a few years ago. I mean, she obviously survived, but she was

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with her boyfriend like for the concert
and I'm sure she's scarred to this day

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for it. Thank thank god,
she came out alive. Well, before

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get a T shirt, show your
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them. I don't even know.
I have a whole drawer exactly existence I

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hate people. Oh oh, I
had the earlier what the futa? I

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have that one I'm dead inside?
Yep, Oh, I have that one

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with the little skeleton. That one's
cute. I don't kill each other,

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don't kill each other. A lot
of the good one. Yeah, that

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is a good one. It's classic. Yeah and don't Yeah, don't do

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it. Don't kill each other anyway
until our next episode. Don't kill each

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other exactly. Bye bye