1 00:00:08,679 --> 00:00:13,439 What up, everybody? Welcome back to the dragon Ball Virgin. Today we're 2 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:19,359 discussing dragon Ball super broy absolutely amazing, as well as we're just gonna be 3 00:00:19,399 --> 00:00:24,719 using the previous three Broly movies, the non Cannon ones as kind of fuel 4 00:00:24,839 --> 00:00:28,960 to speak about how they changed Broly and what they did for the better, 5 00:00:29,039 --> 00:00:32,320 what maybe they didn't do for the better. You got your hosts, me 6 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:37,039 goes in from anime uproar, and of course, Ray, the dragon Ball 7 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:41,560 Virgin, who has watched more episodes of dragon Ball than any other virgin alive. 8 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:45,640 What up? Ray? Oh, let's go. It's It's true. 9 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:51,119 I feel I should say that any other dragon Ball version alive because there are 10 00:00:51,159 --> 00:01:00,560 probably visions who've watched, like rewatched episode. Oh man, um, so 11 00:01:00,679 --> 00:01:03,599 we got we got so much to talk about here, but let's just get 12 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:08,439 into initial thoughts. I don't want to cloud raise judgment too much, but 13 00:01:10,159 --> 00:01:15,159 Ray, what do you think in general of Broley as a character the Brole 14 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:21,079 movie and how they changed him? Yeah? I mean I was talking to 15 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:26,599 you about this before we started in that I think they did make some good 16 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:30,079 changes. For example, the whole idea of him being angry at Goku for 17 00:01:30,519 --> 00:01:38,000 crying cry Bro taken that out, which is good. I did like as 18 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:42,480 well, the whole backstory at the beginning, Like it was long. It 19 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:47,000 did take up a bit of time near the beginning with a planet Vegeta with 20 00:01:47,079 --> 00:01:51,680 freezer, but it was cool contextually to see though. I mean, I'm 21 00:01:51,719 --> 00:01:57,359 trying to think, remember when Bardoc ends up sending off his son, like 22 00:01:57,439 --> 00:02:01,200 Goku's wearing the full out say an outfit, which contradicts things we've seen in 23 00:02:01,239 --> 00:02:06,200 the past. Where that stood out to me not a huge deal, right, 24 00:02:06,519 --> 00:02:08,400 Yeah, that didn't really plot or anything. It was just a couple 25 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:12,639 of like interesting contradictions. I think you you know, you think the movie 26 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:16,520 why I think the movies now are like I think there's been a change in 27 00:02:16,599 --> 00:02:21,319 like what's acceptable on screen. So they have less nakedness than they did in't 28 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:27,280 dragon Ball. Right, nakedness was like so prevalent in dragon Ball, but 29 00:02:27,439 --> 00:02:30,919 I feel like now they're more like, let's just clothe everybody for better or 30 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:36,479 worse. Who would be naked otherwise? Yeah, terms of I mean the 31 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:40,080 character, I still do like him, like the whole idea of here's this 32 00:02:42,319 --> 00:02:46,199 super saying you know legend he is untamed, like he can't control his anger. 33 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:51,120 I thought that was pretty good. I thought like his father was presented 34 00:02:51,759 --> 00:02:55,840 in a better light. Yeah he wasn't the original movie, Yeah for sure. 35 00:02:57,039 --> 00:03:02,919 I thought that too, Like he actually the whole I mean, now 36 00:03:04,039 --> 00:03:07,199 you remind me of the Father, Like what the fuck? They just killed 37 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:13,400 him and that's it. Like that was random as right, But yeah, 38 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:15,159 I mean you get that from Freezer, you understand it. But it's weird 39 00:03:15,199 --> 00:03:17,199 that they just left him dead. For a second, I thought they would 40 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:21,560 use the dragon balls to wish him back, but no they didn't. They're 41 00:03:21,599 --> 00:03:25,240 just like, oh my god, that was so random as fuck. I 42 00:03:25,439 --> 00:03:30,159 like, yeah, but I do think it's this is definitely more interesting. 43 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:34,520 The father was a better human being, right, I think we can agree 44 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:37,800 on that than in the original, Like he was willing to risk everything to 45 00:03:37,879 --> 00:03:45,879 help his son in the beginning, right because of jealous jealous Vegita's father And 46 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:51,000 yeah, yeah, I mean there's I also thought the interesting thing was the 47 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:57,400 power level, like power scaling. It was crazy, right because you the 48 00:03:57,439 --> 00:04:01,360 original Brolly was strong obviously, why you know, he couldn't hold a candle 49 00:04:01,439 --> 00:04:10,560 to super saying blue Goku, and this one was practically holding a can like 50 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:15,920 practically overpowering super saying God in his base form, which was fucking insane. 51 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:21,120 Right, So that was another interesting thing that made Broly way more relevant than 52 00:04:21,199 --> 00:04:25,959 he would have been otherwise. Yeah, and I mean you have to do 53 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:30,040 that because if not, you know, it would have just been embarrassing if 54 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:33,079 he was at the same level as he was in the original movies. But 55 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:38,040 yeah, that was a little weird something else as well near the end. 56 00:04:38,759 --> 00:04:43,040 Usually it seems like the end of each of the other Broly movies like they're 57 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:46,959 very much glad to get rid of him, whereas at the end here he 58 00:04:46,079 --> 00:04:50,319 ends up getting wished away and Goku goes and finds them and he's like, 59 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:53,720 yeah, I can't wait to fight you again, whereas the other ones, 60 00:04:53,759 --> 00:04:58,240 he's just seen as this like sward enemy. They want to think him. 61 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:01,759 Such a good move on their part because Broley is such a popular character. 62 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:04,560 I don't think they did. Guys, correct me if I'm wrong in the 63 00:05:04,639 --> 00:05:10,920 chat, but I don't think they did anything any character three times in the 64 00:05:11,319 --> 00:05:16,319 non Cannon movies. Um so bring him back three times. It shows how 65 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:21,800 popular he is Junior just once, I think, yeah, okay, But 66 00:05:21,879 --> 00:05:27,839 anyways, like three times specifically, Like that's crazy popular. So obviously it's 67 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:31,639 a smart move like Vegeta, like um Freezer to leave him in the world 68 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:35,519 so he could possibly come back and pop up again. And he's such a 69 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:41,040 hype character that, I mean, how cool is it that they have that 70 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:44,839 card to draw on whenever they want to in the future. Yeah, he 71 00:05:44,959 --> 00:05:49,040 leaves the door wide open, he says, Dude, he's so Obviously we 72 00:05:49,079 --> 00:05:55,000 didn't see Goku go ultra instinct, which is which would be like a different 73 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:58,879 story kind of thing. We don't know exactly how that would work, but 74 00:06:00,079 --> 00:06:02,480 with Super Sam Blue, like Goku and Vegeta, don't stand a chance. 75 00:06:03,519 --> 00:06:06,639 Yeah, and it was cool to have that Freeze to tie in as well. 76 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:11,959 Oh yeah, he's kind of recruited by Freezer, and Freeze is there, 77 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:15,199 but he's not actually taking center stage like he normally does in the previous 78 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:18,360 movies. So yeah, I thought it was It was a cool kind of 79 00:06:18,399 --> 00:06:24,560 concept there. But I do like you want to like also gloss over the 80 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:29,399 older movies because I mean, they do make some interesting kind of moves beyond 81 00:06:29,439 --> 00:06:32,560 the first one. Go for it. Yeah, So, I mean we 82 00:06:32,639 --> 00:06:36,000 talked about the first one in a previous episode. It was I did end 83 00:06:36,079 --> 00:06:41,680 up rewatching it this time. I rewatched it with the dub the first time 84 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:45,800 I did the sub, And yeah, there are some funny moments I do 85 00:06:45,959 --> 00:06:49,120 find, like Roshy drunk with the dove with pretty funny. Yeah, there 86 00:06:49,199 --> 00:06:53,000 is a thing in anime. You know, you told me whenever there's a 87 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:57,279 trope to kind of let you know, there is a thing in anime where 88 00:06:57,639 --> 00:07:01,199 they pretty much have character, and it's usually a comedic thing, but there's 89 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:04,000 this kind of drunk fighting where all of a sudden, like even though they're 90 00:07:04,079 --> 00:07:09,480 drunk, instead of performing worse, they do really well. And that's probably 91 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:14,480 not even just anime, probably like Japanese cultural stories that have been floating around 92 00:07:14,519 --> 00:07:19,360 forever. But yeah, so that was not the first time, like people 93 00:07:19,439 --> 00:07:24,600 have seen that if they've been exposed to Japanese media. Yeah, I also 94 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:28,680 found because I thought this was funny in the first movie. But again, 95 00:07:29,279 --> 00:07:31,399 you're so used to the characters voices in the dub that when it's in the 96 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:35,560 sub it's a little bit different being like reacting to it. And I found 97 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:41,000 when Curlin singing there and Vegeta is just so pissed off and he's like, 98 00:07:41,319 --> 00:07:44,680 I can't take this anymore in his usual voice. Like I actually laughed out 99 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:46,319 loud of that part because it was so funny to see. No, I'm 100 00:07:46,319 --> 00:07:50,759 glad. Yeah, and obviously, you know, humor. I keep saying 101 00:07:50,759 --> 00:07:56,079 it it's an underrated part of dragon Ball because obviously the fighting takes center stage, 102 00:07:56,079 --> 00:08:01,279 the cool transformations takes center stage. But I really appreciate the comedic elements 103 00:08:01,319 --> 00:08:05,639 too. And I gotta say, obviously, you're gonna keep going with the 104 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:09,240 old ones, and there was like obviously highlights in the old ones. But 105 00:08:09,399 --> 00:08:13,800 I just sound I was watching this movie in advance like today, and I 106 00:08:13,839 --> 00:08:18,800 just found myself smiling uncontrollably, Like it's just I enjoy this is like dragon 107 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:24,639 Ball super around, like what I love about dragon Ball right, like peak 108 00:08:24,759 --> 00:08:28,480 dragon Ball pretty much, and I just enjoy it so much. Bro, 109 00:08:28,519 --> 00:08:33,159 it brings a smile to my face. It's it's amazing stuff. Yeah, 110 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:35,720 No, I mean there were some funny moments as well. It was also 111 00:08:35,759 --> 00:08:39,840 interesting to see when Vegeta kind of cowers there at the end. Again, 112 00:08:39,919 --> 00:08:45,480 seeing in the dub is interesting with that voice, So that was funny. 113 00:08:45,519 --> 00:08:48,120 But we're not to the other movies. I mean the second one. I 114 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:56,120 thought it was interesting how they focus specifically on Trunk's go ten, Videl's in 115 00:08:56,200 --> 00:09:00,840 there, it shifts away from well, obviously Goku come in at the end. 116 00:09:01,279 --> 00:09:05,679 How he does is I guess debatable, but he does his music magic 117 00:09:05,039 --> 00:09:09,399 music. What am I saying? It's movie magic? Yes, but he 118 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,600 does. I mean it's interesting how they shift away. And at this point 119 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:16,919 it's interesting because you know Browley, we find out that, like he's been 120 00:09:18,039 --> 00:09:22,720 terrorizing this place. And once you find out he's going to be a threat 121 00:09:22,799 --> 00:09:26,720 and the others are nowhere in sight, you think, how is Goten? 122 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:31,919 How is Trunks, Videl? How are they gonna be able to deal with 123 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:35,360 the situation? And I felt that same way with the third movie when we 124 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:41,120 had like eighteen, we had hercule like, we had characters who were I 125 00:09:41,159 --> 00:09:45,440 don't want to say like irrelevant but definitely don't scale anywhere near Broley, and 126 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:46,200 you think to yourself, like, how is this going to end? We 127 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:50,960 don't have Goku there, Vegeta there to save the day. So it was 128 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:54,519 interesting how they took that approach for the second and third movie. Away Yeah, 129 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:58,879 yeah, yeah, And I think I'm pretty sure Bio Browley is confirmed 130 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:05,039 to be weaker than normal Broley, which makes sense. But another thing about 131 00:10:05,159 --> 00:10:09,240 Bio Broley is I don't know if like they had a low budget or something, 132 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:13,080 but yeah, like they pretty much advertise it as like a Browley movie, 133 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:18,240 and they had like this blob monster be bro thought it was so dumb 134 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:20,840 that it was like what the fuck? I'm guessing like they just wanted to 135 00:10:20,879 --> 00:10:24,000 do a movie and they weren't sure how to roll cells. It's like, 136 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:28,480 let's just make it another Browle movie. Well, wouldn't have looked better if 137 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:33,399 remember when Tao came back Mercenary Tao and like he was reconstructed. What do 138 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:37,639 you mean like even yeah, like even Freezer right Mecca free Yeah, Like 139 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:41,200 couldn't you do something with that? With that with Broley, Like it would 140 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:45,320 have been a pretty cool aesthetic. That was like the worst decision you could 141 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:48,080 think of this blob that's going around and there's a bit of blonde hair sticking 142 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,559 out. Yeah, I'm like, why would you choose? I was like, 143 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:56,279 esthetically this looks disgusting. It's just not cool, Like what are you 144 00:10:56,279 --> 00:10:58,679 gonna buy? It? Warned us last time too, that's like not even 145 00:10:58,759 --> 00:11:05,080 why Bio Broley because it's so bad and like there are again, it's not 146 00:11:05,399 --> 00:11:09,840 like unwatchable, but yeah, definitely, Um, it doesn't do Broley as 147 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:16,519 a character justice, while I feel like the new dragon Ball Super did him 148 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:20,600 a lot of justice. Right. Yeah, Like the worst thing, which 149 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:24,720 like it's not even necessarily bad compared to how you look at it, but 150 00:11:24,039 --> 00:11:30,720 one of the worst things that the Dragon Ball Super Broley movie arguably was Freeze 151 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:35,600 On wanting the dragon Balls just to make himself five centimeters taller. Yeah. 152 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:39,759 I was like, what the fuck wrong? And it's funny contrasting that with 153 00:11:39,879 --> 00:11:43,879 Boma's wish she wants to look five years younger, and you're like, wow, 154 00:11:43,919 --> 00:11:48,039 that's so vain, and then Freezer goes and kind of want to be 155 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:50,759 exactly Freeze is just as vain, right, But they probably imply, if 156 00:11:50,799 --> 00:11:56,039 I'm not wrong, that Goku says she's been doing this. It's like, 157 00:11:56,080 --> 00:12:00,360 oh, that's why she looks like so young, So maybe she's been doing 158 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:03,559 this because if which kind of makes sense because if you look at Chee Chee 159 00:12:03,639 --> 00:12:09,399 some moments in Dragon Ball Super, she looks older, I think, than 160 00:12:09,639 --> 00:12:16,000 Boma, and that would make sense only if Boma is doing the five years 161 00:12:16,039 --> 00:12:22,399 before every so often thing because otherwise she was older from the beginning than Chichi. 162 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:26,559 So it's just like a little thing that could explain something because I mean 163 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:28,480 you could also say Boma is rich, so she has all these like money 164 00:12:28,519 --> 00:12:33,600 for like product anti aging products and stuff like that. But yeah, it's 165 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:39,360 another explanation for why Boma, for Vegeta's say, keeps looking est. Yeah. 166 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:41,919 No, it was funny to see that, to see what Freezer wanted 167 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:46,080 as well. I mean it goes to show we were kind of debating has 168 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:52,200 Freezer had like a change of heart or is he kind of on a path 169 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:54,840 towards being good in some way? And if you think about it, I 170 00:12:54,840 --> 00:13:00,519 mean, he could have asked for immortality, even though he said it is 171 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:03,840 kind of pointless, but he could have asked something that was more of a 172 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:09,679 threat to them compared to being just five centimeters larger so or taller. Sorry, 173 00:13:09,759 --> 00:13:11,960 So, um, I just wonder as well, like where is Freezer 174 00:13:13,039 --> 00:13:16,519 on that scale of evil to good? Like has he because I feel like 175 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:20,440 he could have done more. You know, he does kill his father. 176 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:28,399 Yeah, Freeze Freeze up to me is like definitely eviler than any of our 177 00:13:28,399 --> 00:13:35,480 good guys. Um. But there is this sense of like playfulness that keeps 178 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:41,960 him from sometimes doing like, you know, just devoting his life to killing 179 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:45,159 the Saints because he's kind of like enjoying being back on Earth. He kind 180 00:13:45,159 --> 00:13:46,799 of wants to toy with them a bit, to like bring Browley to see 181 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:52,759 how they do. Obviously, I do think Freeze in the end his goal 182 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:58,000 is to be like take over to the entire universe and to defeed Goku and 183 00:13:58,039 --> 00:14:01,039 be the strongest and stuff like that. But in the meantime, he knows 184 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:05,360 he's not right. He knows he has no trot against Gojeta, right, 185 00:14:05,879 --> 00:14:09,399 So in that sense, he's gonna buy his time. He's not gonna cause 186 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:15,399 trouble. But yeah, you know, or at least you feel that if 187 00:14:15,399 --> 00:14:20,320 he had the power too, it would probably be a different story. Yeah, 188 00:14:20,399 --> 00:14:24,519 yeah, I mean, it's just interesting where he's at. I think 189 00:14:24,519 --> 00:14:26,720 that was a good where you used like he was toying with them. He 190 00:14:26,799 --> 00:14:31,080 wasn't as ruthless as he normally is. Oh, I will say this too. 191 00:14:31,159 --> 00:14:35,679 Big Zam pointed out, thank you that Freezer stole his wish from Commander 192 00:14:35,759 --> 00:14:37,840 Red. I totally forgot about that I speak out about that. Yeah, 193 00:14:37,879 --> 00:14:41,799 but yeah, I remember he wanted to wish to be tallerant and then it 194 00:14:41,919 --> 00:14:46,759 subordinate was like, are you kidding me? This whole organization has been working 195 00:14:46,799 --> 00:14:50,279 its ass off to make you tallerant. It just my fricking shoots him. 196 00:14:50,279 --> 00:14:54,720 It was so funny, I know, fort that was a good time Ghost 197 00:14:54,759 --> 00:15:00,279 to show so many things in super Like they have some sort of I in 198 00:15:00,399 --> 00:15:05,960 with dragon Ball or dragon Ball Z. Yeah, for sure, And they're 199 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:09,919 bringing back stuff that won't ruin it for new fans, but will old fans 200 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:15,720 can appreciate like this stuff. And we have another comment saying I think Freezel 201 00:15:15,759 --> 00:15:18,639 tolerates them. If he can kill them, he will, but it's just 202 00:15:18,679 --> 00:15:22,279 a game at this point, so he doesn't. And yeah, that's what 203 00:15:22,399 --> 00:15:24,360 I think it is, like, you know, if he can't, if 204 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:28,039 he's not strong enough to kill them, he's just gonna play the game. 205 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:31,639 Try to enjoy himself, enjoy not being in that hell which is like a 206 00:15:31,679 --> 00:15:37,759 little girl's heaven where toys are like dancing and singing. Yes, oh god, 207 00:15:37,759 --> 00:15:41,799 that must have been brutal for him, But yeah, I mean, 208 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:45,759 what else you want? Do you want to go back to the new super 209 00:15:45,799 --> 00:15:50,320 movie. I mean I kind of talked about how at the beginning I really 210 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:56,120 appreciated bro Yeah, what is like, holy shit, Broum. First of 211 00:15:56,159 --> 00:16:00,799 all, let's get your thoughts on this, this movie compared to the other 212 00:16:00,879 --> 00:16:06,840 two, the other two being Resurrection of Freezer and War of the Gods. 213 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:11,440 I saw this in the comments two people were asking which ones do you prefer? 214 00:16:11,519 --> 00:16:15,679 So where would you rate rank this movie among those three Dragon Ball super 215 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:22,440 movies. I would say it is probably my number one, just because we 216 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:27,480 get this fresh take on Broley, and I think this take we kind of 217 00:16:27,519 --> 00:16:33,120 mentioned it is kind of better than at least the second and third Z movie. 218 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:37,799 So I do like that whole fresh take we get of Brole. I've 219 00:16:37,879 --> 00:16:41,360 liked Brole as a character this entire time, so it's nothing new. But 220 00:16:41,919 --> 00:16:47,759 probably this movie I would say is my favorite. Yeah, how about yourself? 221 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:51,399 Yeah, so I would also say this is my favorite, and I 222 00:16:51,399 --> 00:16:57,159 don't even think it's close honestly for me, Sour SAPs as in the chat, 223 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:00,120 I would place in a second to Battle of the Gods, but I 224 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:04,640 would personally put it like above all of them. And maybe it's because those 225 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:11,079 ones, like I'm kind of desensitized to even more so because we had like 226 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:15,440 we watched the movies and then we kind of had it broken down and then 227 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:19,839 watched it again, and so maybe like I don't remember how it felt the 228 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:25,200 first time, but for me, Broley was just amazing number one, and 229 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:30,039 it's because it had Yeah, the Bardoc flashback, right, all of that 230 00:17:30,079 --> 00:17:34,559 stuff was amazing. That's what we both loved that, saying flashback stuff whenever 231 00:17:34,599 --> 00:17:37,279 we got it, and this one made it, and it made a cannon 232 00:17:37,759 --> 00:17:44,119 and then we got beyond that Broley, we got beyond that Gojeta, we 233 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:48,960 got beyond that Golden Freezer thrown in. We got beers watching Bulla. So 234 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:55,319 it's like bro like, it's the best of all of them put together here 235 00:17:55,480 --> 00:18:00,720 and and even better than that because we got Gojeeta and Browley. So yeah, 236 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:06,160 this undoubtedly is my favorite dragon Ball super movie. And just on that 237 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:11,039 topic of Coojeta, honestly, let me just scratch that's my favorite dragon Ball 238 00:18:11,039 --> 00:18:17,039 movie. Say yeah, definitely. Um, just on that topic of Gojita, 239 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:19,119 if you remember, I don't know when I said this, but I 240 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:26,519 said it would be hilarious to see Vegeta fusion fusing with someone and having to 241 00:18:26,559 --> 00:18:30,400 do that ridiculous movie. Sure enough, we get that, and I love 242 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:34,839 it how they screw it up just like does get another different forms. So 243 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:37,839 yeah, yeah, that was that was funny. I thought it was a 244 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:42,279 bit over the top, just because in theory they have to wait a whole 245 00:18:42,319 --> 00:18:45,559 hour because of their mess ups, not counting like training to do it. 246 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:49,119 So in theory, like I was like, that's probably too much time for 247 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:55,559 probably to just be beating the ship out of freezing. But beyond that, 248 00:18:56,200 --> 00:19:00,039 yeah, I loved it too. And they did a good job of showing 249 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:04,359 why Vegeta changed his mind, because Vegia is always justlike, bro, I'm 250 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:07,519 gonna do it on my own strength. But we've been slowly watching him change 251 00:19:07,519 --> 00:19:11,559 and change throughout the series to caring more about Boma, about his family, 252 00:19:12,079 --> 00:19:17,680 and so it actually felt convincing and real that he'd agree to do this, 253 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:22,359 unlike maybe in a movie, because you actually had Goku him saying I'd rather 254 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:26,759 die, but then Goku being like, oh what about your daughter? What 255 00:19:26,839 --> 00:19:29,920 about your wife? And He's like, ah, fuck, fine, fine, 256 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:33,759 I'll do it, And so it was very believable because the characterization has 257 00:19:33,799 --> 00:19:38,079 been going in that direction the whole time, and then Goku used that to 258 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:41,519 get him to do it. And obviously, if Vegita was a loner, 259 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:44,720 if it was just a matter of life or death, he might have just 260 00:19:44,799 --> 00:19:48,240 like been like screw that. But since he has to protect people, his 261 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:52,759 family, now he's actually going to put up with it, which made a 262 00:19:52,839 --> 00:19:56,200 lot of sense. Yeah, he has to swallow his pride there. I 263 00:19:56,279 --> 00:19:59,720 have a question, and I don't know if you could answer to anyone in 264 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:08,480 the but I want to know, comparing Gojeta and Vegeto, how do they 265 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:12,039 compare? So like, I know, strength wise, as they get stronger, 266 00:20:12,079 --> 00:20:18,880 obviously Gogeta is stronger, but are there any like notable characteristics that are 267 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:22,759 different from either of those fusions? Honestly, I don't know enough to say 268 00:20:22,839 --> 00:20:26,599 that. I know, appearance wise they looked a little bit different. No, 269 00:20:26,759 --> 00:20:32,599 they did, and definitely there is a difference. They're different like entities. 270 00:20:33,079 --> 00:20:37,000 But I don't know how the power scaling would work because we saw super 271 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:41,160 same blue Vegeto. But the big problem was the powers too much for the 272 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:45,200 Pataro earrings. So now pretty much their only options go GETA from this point 273 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:52,519 on, and so that's like the benefit to go geta right now, so 274 00:20:52,599 --> 00:20:56,119 you could say that he'd obviously be able to last longer in a fight. 275 00:20:56,599 --> 00:21:00,160 But yeah, whether we're like taking the exact same power are of Goku and 276 00:21:00,279 --> 00:21:06,519 vegetas super say Blue, And whether Vegito or Gogo would be stronger, I'm 277 00:21:06,559 --> 00:21:11,880 not sure. Here we have sour stops saying Vegito is stronger, um, 278 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:18,000 but but yeah, I'm not one hundred percent sure personally. So I think 279 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:22,400 that's that's something like you can look up on YouTube and people have probably made 280 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:26,519 detailed videos about it, because YouTube is such a beautiful thing and the dragon 281 00:21:26,519 --> 00:21:30,960 Ball community is very much, very much present on YouTube, so there will 282 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:36,319 probably be people handling that question and theorizing about it. But there it isn't 283 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:41,839 like in the series itself, I don't think it's been proven and definitely and 284 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:45,480 with the fusion, did they mention at all? I know we've seen it 285 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:49,920 with goal tanks, but have they mentioned at all like a time limit because 286 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:55,359 I know with the ear rings, yeah, it's always it's always there, 287 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:59,039 which is nice because you don't have to worry about being too strong. Yeah, 288 00:21:59,079 --> 00:22:03,559 so it makes much more sense. The only thing is they always do 289 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:07,880 this this kind of way of making sure they don't overuse it. And in 290 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:14,279 this case, it's Vegina not wanting to look lame by doing the dance, 291 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:18,559 So yeah, that's kind of the rationale there. Yeah, No, I 292 00:22:18,599 --> 00:22:22,480 mean that was great. I did, Like right when I saw that, 293 00:22:22,559 --> 00:22:26,920 I thought, Wow, my questions or my prayers have been answered, just 294 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:30,559 like before when I'm like, it'd be so cool if we get and vegeta 295 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:34,440 using those earrings and now we get this. That's that's part of drying Ball, 296 00:22:34,559 --> 00:22:40,559 super kind of taking stuff we wished for and bringing it to life. 297 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:42,839 And I think that's that's super cool. That's one of the things I love 298 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:48,920 about it. We also had a comment that that was pretty funny Noel, 299 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:53,720 the owls that freeze that got ragg dolled by his worst fear, the legendary 300 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:57,799 super stand which, as we know from the movie, he destroyed the planet 301 00:22:57,839 --> 00:23:03,319 in part to prevent for happening, and so he continues for an hour. 302 00:23:03,519 --> 00:23:07,359 I bet Bardoc is laughing in hell, and yeah, like that's just so 303 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:12,519 funny. Like the dude we could just kept jumping to. His golden form 304 00:23:12,759 --> 00:23:18,000 is like superior golden form getting beaten the shit out of him, and we'll 305 00:23:18,079 --> 00:23:21,960 let to believe that that happened for like an hour before we kind of stepped 306 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:26,119 in. But oh my god, that was hilarious. Yeah. And I 307 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:30,960 mean he goes along with it too, and he's brought in like he's like, 308 00:23:30,039 --> 00:23:34,519 well, this guy is unhinged, like he could like something wrong could 309 00:23:34,559 --> 00:23:37,839 happen, but Freezer does go along with it, so I mean, you 310 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:41,880 can't blame anyone but him for taking that guy along, and he would, 311 00:23:45,319 --> 00:23:51,759 like you never feel bad for Freeze never, But it was just so funny. 312 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:56,319 Um. And yeah, they pretty much said it was said, not 313 00:23:56,440 --> 00:24:02,920 confirmed, but it was said that Browley is stronger than Beerists. So that's 314 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:07,839 another thing to like blow your mind. Wow, so full power. They 315 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:11,920 said, Broadly is stronger than Beerist, so more stronger than a god of 316 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:15,680 destruction. Yeah, And I mean that's not super crazy, because we saw 317 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:22,000 how well our guys did against the God of Destruction awakened God of Destruction top, 318 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,920 so it's not like out of the round possibility. But considering Beerist, 319 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:29,359 and he's like a well established one and he's so strong, so having Broadly 320 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:33,519 be stronger than him is crazy. And so this pretty much suggests that go 321 00:24:33,759 --> 00:24:40,160 Jeta super saying Blue could beat Breast, which is which is interesting not to 322 00:24:40,279 --> 00:24:44,400 mention, not to mention if somehow and they probably can't do this because Vegeta 323 00:24:44,519 --> 00:24:47,519 is part of the body and Goku has a master to that yet, but 324 00:24:47,599 --> 00:24:53,680 if somehow they could do ultra instant Gojeta, holy shit, bro Like, 325 00:24:53,799 --> 00:24:57,279 we might even have trouble with that one. Bro. Yeah, I don't 326 00:24:57,279 --> 00:25:02,319 know how they would control that would take a while, but yeah, it's 327 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:06,240 interesting. And like you said, Browley, there's so much potential there, 328 00:25:06,279 --> 00:25:11,480 like untapped potential um that he can like, can he go super saying Blue 329 00:25:11,559 --> 00:25:17,839 at some point? Yeah, that depends if if we if he needs to, 330 00:25:18,039 --> 00:25:21,200 right. So yeah, it's been more and more established in Dragon Ball 331 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:29,400 that people have different routes or roots to the same level of power. And 332 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:33,960 for Vegeta, now he has that other blue form, right, and then 333 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:38,880 for Goku he has ultra instinct, and then for Gohan he said he'll find 334 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:42,759 his own way, although you're lagging behind Gohan, but whatever. And now 335 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:48,160 Broley has just super legendary super Saiyan is stronger than Blue, right, So 336 00:25:48,839 --> 00:25:55,920 I don't think he needs it, um, but we'll see because they they'll 337 00:25:55,960 --> 00:26:03,160 probably come up with more unique Broy based insformations if if he gets brought back 338 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:07,039 to do more fighting and stuff like that. Speaking of you mentioned Gohan there, 339 00:26:07,079 --> 00:26:12,240 It was great back in the second movie to see Gohan at least like 340 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:18,200 shine a bit or look like someone who was like a worthy opponent for a 341 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:22,440 period of time, because we have not gotten that in such a long time, 342 00:26:22,599 --> 00:26:26,599 and it just takes you back to those days in Dragon Ball Z when 343 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:30,039 Gohan was like a relevant fighter. So that was pretty cool to see it. 344 00:26:30,039 --> 00:26:34,039 And I love that one moment when he's getting he's almost getting ingested by 345 00:26:34,079 --> 00:26:38,799 the lava and then you get it looks like Piccolo coming in to save him, 346 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,720 but it turns out it's Krillan, and I love it's just like playing 347 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:45,720 with us, being like, oh, here's Piccolo saving the day again, 348 00:26:45,759 --> 00:26:48,720 and then it's like, nope, Krillan's here, and he just wanted to 349 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:52,839 try on the clothes and act like Piccolo. That was that was fine. 350 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:56,200 That was like a self referential wing yeah, because you know, like I 351 00:26:56,279 --> 00:27:00,680 knew, oh God, here comes Piccolo saving Gohan, So they kind of 352 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,799 picked up on what we'd expect, and then they played about it. Um. 353 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:07,720 I do want to say SSA, thank you for the for the subscription. 354 00:27:08,559 --> 00:27:12,319 U SSA says, how far we've come. I'm glad he's still enjoying 355 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:17,160 dB, which I assume he means that you ray the Dragon Ball version are 356 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:18,680 still enjoying dragon Ball. And yeah, we come a long way. It's 357 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:23,319 been like eight not eight ten months. And yeah we've come all the way 358 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:29,160 from little Baby Goku, which was referenced in this movie right him coming to 359 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:30,880 Earth. So that was cool. That was a cool flashback. Yeah, 360 00:27:32,319 --> 00:27:36,880 this movie was cool because it kind of brought different parts of dragon Ball and 361 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:40,720 then Z and then Super all together where we get that, you know. 362 00:27:40,759 --> 00:27:42,880 It was it was very different from the other movies and the other movies that 363 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:48,240 just kind of stars in the suation this. Man, I can't compare this 364 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,519 to Beerist and Freeze Up. By the way, I just want to stay 365 00:27:51,599 --> 00:27:55,839 quick. Thank you to the Nerd Sergeant for also subscribing. Um. Yeah, 366 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:59,680 I can't compare it because like, yeah, there's bardoc Bro, there's 367 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,880 Bar, Like, there's Goku's mom, bro, Like how could there's Napple 368 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,960 with hair? Like how could you could you compare this to the other movies 369 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,160 it's just too good. Young Rabbits, Young Vege, It's just too good. 370 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:15,440 Yeah, and we said Rabbits would ever be relevant. There we go, 371 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,599 Rabbits makes an appearance being a douchebag kid. He makes an appearance. 372 00:28:21,799 --> 00:28:23,680 Yeah, I know, this movie was definitely I would. I mean, 373 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,359 I may have to think a bit more about how I compare it with the 374 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:33,680 other movies, because I'll be honest with it's been so many movies we've watched. 375 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,480 I would probably have to go back and read the summaries again to get 376 00:28:36,519 --> 00:28:38,160 reacquainted. No, and don't even read the summaries. You got to rewatch 377 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:42,880 the movie before he makes the judgments. And like the the thing is so 378 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:48,599 the story I think is great. But beyond that, bro the visual effects 379 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:52,880 like no other one holds a candle like this was amazing. The fighting was 380 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:56,160 amazing. I was like, Bro, I feel like I'm on an amusement 381 00:28:56,240 --> 00:29:00,519 ride like this was amazing. We saw some of the fighting on Broley's perspective, 382 00:29:00,799 --> 00:29:06,680 like point of view, and it was just so creative, so amazing, 383 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:11,960 best choreography for a fight that I've seen in Dragon Ball. It was 384 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:18,039 just amazing. Yeah. No, there was one part when vegeto, vegeto. 385 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:23,200 Right, I'm trying to think, I don't get Gogeta. I'm getting 386 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:30,559 everyone confused. Where he dodged like an energy wave and it just had him 387 00:29:30,599 --> 00:29:33,559 like skimming by the wave and it was just like you said, the effects 388 00:29:34,039 --> 00:29:38,480 were so good, and that's that's just like an overall compliment of Dragon Ball 389 00:29:38,559 --> 00:29:42,720 Super altogether, like compared to Z, where so much of Z was in 390 00:29:42,759 --> 00:29:47,640 the nineties and you get that nineties which was like, I still enjoy it, 391 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:52,119 but there's limitations there, whereas so many parts of Super like even we 392 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:56,559 talked about like the first major fight in Super going back to Goku and beerist 393 00:29:56,599 --> 00:30:00,279 like it was such a step up compared to Drug it was, and I'd 394 00:30:00,359 --> 00:30:06,599 say this was a step up beyond the first new Yeah, I thought it 395 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:11,359 was absolutely amazing. M Yeah, Like what else do you want to comment 396 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:18,480 anything about Barda, Gogel's mom, any of that flashback because we know we 397 00:30:18,799 --> 00:30:25,000 have the TV special that we can kind of like ping against then compare it 398 00:30:25,039 --> 00:30:30,039 to Yeah. I mean, and I was trying to think back, that's 399 00:30:30,039 --> 00:30:36,880 the thing I remembered because it was so recent, being able to compare Browley's 400 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:40,440 father to how he was in the first movie. But in terms of comparing 401 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:45,319 Barda to that previous movie, I'm having a hard time remembering how he was 402 00:30:45,759 --> 00:30:52,160 portrayed. He seemed from beginning to end as a better father overall, although 403 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:59,440 even in the movie in the special, he kind of came kind of became 404 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:03,039 a better father as the series went on or as the movie went on. 405 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:07,440 But yeah, he's more so like she even brought up the mother. The 406 00:31:07,519 --> 00:31:11,440 mother was like totally like, bro, we need to watch out for Goku. 407 00:31:11,559 --> 00:31:18,400 She was totally attached and Bardoc was even saying stuff that the mother was 408 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,519 like saying, men don't think like that, and he was like, you 409 00:31:21,559 --> 00:31:25,599 know what, I've been doing so much destroying that I want to save something. 410 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,799 And I don't know, Like that's such a beautiful libe, like you 411 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:33,240 don't expect such like a hitting line and dragon ball but that was great. 412 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:37,799 Yeah, no, that that is true. I forgot how the previous one 413 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:41,359 he was a pretty big asshole at the beginning and didn't really care about being 414 00:31:41,359 --> 00:31:45,920 a father, and he is a bit more redeemable, I would say, 415 00:31:45,039 --> 00:31:48,880 in this movie. But yeah, that was a pretty good line, and 416 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:52,799 it's just I like just getting that whole backstory, Like it means so much 417 00:31:52,839 --> 00:31:57,839 more compared to when we just first heard at the beginning of Ze how Goku 418 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,480 came to the planet. You don't have any context of why. You thought 419 00:32:00,519 --> 00:32:06,160 it was maybe just like a random kind of occurrence. He just came from 420 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:09,079 Planet Vegeta. But to get that whole backstory, and I know it was 421 00:32:09,119 --> 00:32:15,240 written later on in this context with this movie, but it was like awesome 422 00:32:15,279 --> 00:32:17,519 to see. It was like, you didn't realize if you think about it, 423 00:32:17,799 --> 00:32:22,880 like, I don't think Bardock realized that doing what he did, letting 424 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:27,559 him go like that, saved so many people's lives. Yeah, so it 425 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:32,240 just goes to show, you know, just what a great decision he made 426 00:32:32,279 --> 00:32:38,079 there and recognizing that probably you know, Planet Vegeta is going to get destroyed 427 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:45,000 and this kid has potential even though comparagon to like other people like Vegeta and 428 00:32:45,079 --> 00:32:49,920 Browley as a baby, you know, those guys just completely outscaled him in 429 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,680 terms of power. So it's not like he was exceptional by anything. I 430 00:32:52,759 --> 00:32:54,319 love the fact, Yeah, I love the fact that they made Goku a 431 00:32:54,400 --> 00:33:01,640 fucking saying an underdog because he was he's way were potentially like his potential was 432 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:05,680 way less, and he just kept working on it. And yeah, he 433 00:33:05,759 --> 00:33:10,279 surpasses everyone, not broadly yet obviously one on one, definitely not surpassing broadly 434 00:33:12,039 --> 00:33:16,200 again ultra instinct. If he masters it, that'll be uh, that'll be 435 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:22,480 interesting to see them go head to head. But right now Broley is still 436 00:33:22,519 --> 00:33:28,160 stronger. But Vegeta, He's surpassed Vegeta. He's surpast Freezer right like when 437 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:32,039 he was born. There is no way any saying thought like, you know, 438 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:37,519 Goku's surpass Freezer, and he does. And not only that, he 439 00:33:37,599 --> 00:33:42,720 surpasses as stronger Freeze, he surpasses certain gods. It's fucking it's such a 440 00:33:42,799 --> 00:33:46,880 great underdog story, even though from like Quillan's perspective, Goku has such hacks 441 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:52,000 and like unfair advantages. Well, and I thought that back when I watched 442 00:33:52,079 --> 00:33:55,599 Dragon Ball, where it seemed like everything just came natural to him. I 443 00:33:55,640 --> 00:34:00,000 know he has the whole like we see those training arcs, but so much 444 00:34:00,039 --> 00:34:02,720 at the beginning just comes. You know, he's so young, and you 445 00:34:02,799 --> 00:34:07,440 think, well, here's just this talented fighter. You didn't get any of 446 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:12,239 the backstory about him being you know, outside of Earth, but you're thinking 447 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,480 here's this kid, or just everything comes so naturally. He's spoiled in the 448 00:34:15,519 --> 00:34:20,039 sense of he has these hidden talents that he didn't have to work for. 449 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:24,840 But as the series progresses with Dragon ball Z, as you mentioned super where 450 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:30,480 you know, the world just keeps getting bigger and bigger, we see other 451 00:34:30,559 --> 00:34:36,039 universes and he's just more of an underdog because you see a lot more threats 452 00:34:36,079 --> 00:34:38,800 out there, Like he just keeps proving everyone wrong. And it is a 453 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:43,360 great kind of more or lesson you could take, or maybe not more or 454 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,920 lesson, but just life lesson you could take in life just how you know, 455 00:34:47,119 --> 00:34:52,239 you could obviously be counted out so many times based on where you started, 456 00:34:52,559 --> 00:34:54,159 because he was kind of like, let's face it just kind of like 457 00:34:54,199 --> 00:35:00,320 the runt of the litter, like all the other there's probably other people well 458 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:05,559 who as young babies, they were able to power scale higher than Goku. 459 00:35:05,639 --> 00:35:09,679 And you know this kid who didn't really look like he wasn any better than 460 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:15,199 the other sands he's just proved through you know, so much hard work that 461 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:20,000 yeah, you can, you know, reach your potential, and your potential 462 00:35:20,079 --> 00:35:22,360 is limitless if you just keep working out. Yeah, I love that. 463 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:27,079 I love that because like, yeah, there are certain anime where it's like 464 00:35:27,119 --> 00:35:32,440 this guy's the chosen one, and Goku from birth was definitely not like the 465 00:35:32,559 --> 00:35:37,599 chosen one. And the fact that he came so far is is great to 466 00:35:37,639 --> 00:35:44,880 see. What did you think about like Browley, the whole Browley making friends 467 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:51,360 with that one beast right, and then like getting his ear around his waist 468 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,840 and as like a sort of blanket kind of thing. And then even the 469 00:35:54,880 --> 00:36:00,599 fact that that green skinned alien woman was so into him, like she wants 470 00:36:00,639 --> 00:36:05,199 it, Bro, she wants to get with Bro. So what did you 471 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,920 think about those whole all that stuff that was added in when compared to the 472 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:15,280 original. I did like it because I thought it brought it allowed me to 473 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:21,840 like empathize more with him and see more redeemable qualities about him. Um even 474 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:27,119 thinking to the girl, like at first, he's very standoffish and everyone thinks 475 00:36:27,119 --> 00:36:30,199 he's a jerk. But then when the one guy kind of you know, 476 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:34,559 bullies her a bit, like he steps right in and risks. I know, 477 00:36:34,679 --> 00:36:39,480 he can't control his anger necessarily, but he realizes that, you know, 478 00:36:39,559 --> 00:36:44,119 here's like a good person, someone who cares about me, and here's 479 00:36:44,119 --> 00:36:49,840 this asshole you know, trying to be he was like step away from my 480 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,679 green skin girl, right, Yeah, So no, I thought it allowed 481 00:36:52,800 --> 00:37:00,000 him to like just it built his character better than and if it was just 482 00:37:00,039 --> 00:37:06,760 this kind of one dimensional angry freak like he's sometimes presented in like the first 483 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:08,800 one and even the other ones. So I thought that that didn't bring character. 484 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:15,119 He's such a better character, like if you look at the fact that 485 00:37:15,679 --> 00:37:17,760 you know, they he still had the necklace, so they kept that. 486 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:23,440 But early on the green trick was like, yo, let me grab that 487 00:37:23,559 --> 00:37:30,079 remote while the father doesn't notice and breaks it, and you think that might 488 00:37:30,199 --> 00:37:36,960 lead to like issues, but really we learned that this broleague can actually you 489 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:40,320 know, understand to a certain extent, and he can accept when Goku Indian 490 00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:44,760 comes to him and he's like, yo, like you're great, I want 491 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:46,880 to get stronger. I'm going to help you at you and your friends out. 492 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:51,039 I want to be able to like spar with you another day, and 493 00:37:51,159 --> 00:37:55,000 you could tell that he's actually on board and he's not this evil dude that 494 00:37:55,400 --> 00:38:02,639 just hayes cacrophan no reason. So yeah, as as all longevity point, 495 00:38:04,079 --> 00:38:08,360 like for bringing him back, this is a much better approach than the non 496 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:14,760 cannon approach, which was bro It's just this great guy rages and hates Gogu. 497 00:38:15,119 --> 00:38:17,800 Now we have this guy who can actually develop from here, probably develop 498 00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:23,440 his relationship with the alien girl, develop his friendship with that other dude who 499 00:38:23,559 --> 00:38:29,039 joined them, and he can actually become his own character and the main character 500 00:38:29,079 --> 00:38:31,719 of his own life. So with the other Broley, you didn't really see 501 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:35,400 that. Yeah, here's how I would compare it. I know it's not 502 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:40,039 the best comparison, but the Browleys in the previous movie reminded me of like 503 00:38:40,159 --> 00:38:46,480 movie Frankenstein, this unhinged character like monster character, grunts a lot, whereas 504 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:52,920 this character, this new Browley from the supermovie was he turned out to be 505 00:38:52,039 --> 00:38:57,880 more of like the Frankenstein from the novel, which has again more redeemable qualities, 506 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,400 empathizes more with other people, like it was more to like. To 507 00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:07,159 be honest, the Frankenstein monster from the novel is intelligent as fuck, like 508 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:12,079 Browley is definitely not. Not. Yeah, I'm not That's what I said. 509 00:39:12,079 --> 00:39:16,960 It's not a perfect comparison with like obviously intelligence, but you just as 510 00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:22,039 someone who has watched different adaptation of Frankenstein, you see the book. You 511 00:39:22,119 --> 00:39:27,400 read the book, I enjoyed the book one better because again you had those 512 00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:31,760 redeemable characteristics and I got that with this as well, Like I connected more 513 00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:36,880 with this Browley, you like he kind of mentioned you could see a lot 514 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:38,639 more of a future with him because he leaves on good terms with Goku, 515 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:43,239 whereas the other one it's always like, oh, Browley's back. Oh here's 516 00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,760 that asshole coming here? Just yeah, right, trying to destroy everything exactly. 517 00:39:47,159 --> 00:39:51,639 And and even though it was I don't think it was like the greatest 518 00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:59,519 backstory or anything. His relationship with with that giant beast and that beast being 519 00:39:59,599 --> 00:40:04,480 his best friend or his first friend. Really I thought that was that was 520 00:40:04,599 --> 00:40:10,840 cool in the sense that it gave his new friends, the girl Aliot and 521 00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:15,960 one dude who helps her. It gave them something to attach to it and 522 00:40:16,119 --> 00:40:19,960 be like, Okay, this guy is sentimental, Like he's not just a 523 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:28,599 blank monster, and it gave us something to look for and appreciate him Broley, 524 00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,440 because he's not just this like blank guy who wants to beat up Goku. 525 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:37,320 He's this guy who friendship is important to him and he values it so 526 00:40:37,519 --> 00:40:43,920 much that if someone touches his remembrance of his first friend. Then he'll freak 527 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:45,519 out and get angry, right, and you'll need to stop him. So 528 00:40:46,519 --> 00:40:51,960 although he's not the most socially calibrated person, you appreciate the fact that he 529 00:40:52,119 --> 00:40:55,119 does have emotion, he does have sentiment. He values friendship, and that's 530 00:40:55,119 --> 00:40:59,239 something you can't say about the old Brole. No, not at all. 531 00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:04,519 Yeah, it's compared comparable in a way to like Gohan being friends with like 532 00:41:04,679 --> 00:41:07,679 that. It wasn't a beast, it was like a dinosaur. Like it 533 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:13,039 seems like a lot of these characters have had relationships in some way with you, 534 00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:15,360 some sort of animal, and he has that as well. And I 535 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:19,559 mean it does show a lot. It shows like he does care about someone 536 00:41:19,639 --> 00:41:22,639 else besides himself, which is deeply important for a developed character. And it 537 00:41:22,679 --> 00:41:29,360 shows his father as like a dick for actually like shooting the beast for no 538 00:41:29,559 --> 00:41:32,880 reason. But at the same time, it was interesting how when people did 539 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:37,960 insult his father for treating him horribly, he actually said, that's not a 540 00:41:38,119 --> 00:41:42,679 nice way to talk about my father. So he also had that respect for 541 00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:46,960 his father and that was necessary for when Freeze eventually kills him, for him 542 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:51,639 to be like, oh, shit, this is the triggering moment I'm going 543 00:41:51,679 --> 00:41:54,519 to turn into a Supersaian legislation. Yeah, he doesn't have that respect in 544 00:41:54,599 --> 00:41:59,519 the first movie, where it's just the only thing holding him back is that 545 00:42:00,079 --> 00:42:04,559 stupid remote. Like every time he you know, goes crazy, he uses 546 00:42:04,599 --> 00:42:07,599 that remote. It just seems controlled by his father in the first one, 547 00:42:07,639 --> 00:42:09,840 whereas this one he has a little bit more. Yeah, he has more 548 00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:16,599 autonomy. Yeah, he has a sense of an independent will compared to just 549 00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:21,679 freaking out or listening to his father. Oh yeah, no, I think 550 00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:25,280 everything about it. I can't think of one thing I prefer in the original 551 00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:30,000 to this one. I mean, it is kind of weird about having like, 552 00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:36,000 you know, a detached ear around your body at all times. It's 553 00:42:36,039 --> 00:42:40,760 probably never been washed like that is probably where this fuck and probably wouldn't make 554 00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:45,280 sense in real life because that ship would decay and smell bad or shit like 555 00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:50,199 that. But beyond that, yeah, I think every change was probably for 556 00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:54,400 the better. The power scaling makes him much more relevant, makes whenever if 557 00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:59,079 they ever run out of material for another arc, they bring back Burley, 558 00:42:59,679 --> 00:43:01,920 He's already stronger than Goku. Like, you know, we could see what 559 00:43:02,039 --> 00:43:07,719 happens, and yeah, no, it's it's interesting stuff. And I did 560 00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:13,960 like the fact that even he had a romantic relationship now uh with that alien 561 00:43:14,039 --> 00:43:19,920 girl, while with you know, it just brings an added sense of depth 562 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,840 to a character, like with Virginia and Boma obviously, Goku and Chi Chi 563 00:43:23,119 --> 00:43:29,960 Gohan and vedel U Krillin and eighteen. It does. It does serve its 564 00:43:30,039 --> 00:43:34,199 purpose having a character have a relationship. I don't think we're gonna see Freeze 565 00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:40,079 with anybody, but otherwise I do appreciate the romantic relationships. Why hasn't Picolo 566 00:43:40,119 --> 00:43:45,960 found anyone yet? You know, here's this guy who he's a pretty decent 567 00:43:46,079 --> 00:43:52,559 guy. Yeah there. I think they're likes a sexual kind of thing. 568 00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:58,280 Yeah, I think that's that's their story. So there aren't I don't think 569 00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:04,559 any quote unquote female ailes among the Amicans. Yeah, well that doesn't mean 570 00:44:04,639 --> 00:44:07,360 anything. He could get with whoever he wants, but it seems, yeah, 571 00:44:07,559 --> 00:44:12,400 he seems very like a sexual, Like, hey, I think they 572 00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:15,280 all are. Yeah, and I think you know, they give birth through 573 00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:20,039 like spinning out eggs and they don't need to like mate for it. So 574 00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:22,679 yeah, that's just not a thing for them. Like, obviously they have 575 00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:28,679 friendship, they can take on father figure rolls and stuff like that, but 576 00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:35,679 like sex is just not a thing. Yeah, oh well but yeah, 577 00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:40,639 no, I mean overall, I thought, really great movie and hopefully we 578 00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:45,360 could um like he makes more of an appearance. I know you said there's 579 00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:50,119 a twenty twenty two movie coming out, yeah, man, And honestly, 580 00:44:50,159 --> 00:44:52,800 I haven't been up to date. If anyone the comments knows the latest about 581 00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:57,519 the actual facts of that movie, what it's going to cover, or even 582 00:44:57,679 --> 00:45:01,760 rumors, I'd love to I'd love to hear it, but no, yeah, 583 00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:05,719 I don't know exactly what it's covering. I think I heard some like 584 00:45:06,119 --> 00:45:12,199 YouTube titles suggesting that it could be really related, but I'm not one hundred 585 00:45:12,199 --> 00:45:16,840 percent sure. I didn't actually like watch the videos to figure out the whole 586 00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:21,280 truth. So yeah, but whatever it is, I'm sure it's gonna be 587 00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:25,400 interesting. This movie set a great precedent, so honestly, I expect a 588 00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:30,519 movie to be better than the series, so we'll see what happens. Yeah, 589 00:45:30,599 --> 00:45:36,800 but every Like, overall, I'm just super optimistic about where Dragon Ball 590 00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:40,000 is going. I didn't I didn't cover this, but in the comments, 591 00:45:40,079 --> 00:45:44,639 someone asked, are we going to the manga next, So yeah, we 592 00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:49,880 will be going to the manga, and we'll be covering chapters forty two to 593 00:45:50,199 --> 00:45:54,320 sixty seven of the manga, which is the Moral arc. So Ray, 594 00:45:55,119 --> 00:46:00,320 yeah, chapter you could write it down to Ray chapter forty two to sixty 595 00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:04,760 seven. And yeah, we'll have two weeks and then we'll come back with 596 00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:08,599 Morrow, and then we have the Granola arc and the Grown arc is not 597 00:46:08,639 --> 00:46:13,400 even finished, so we have pretty much two more episodes before we finished Dragon 598 00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:16,519 Ball Super, and then we'll see where we're at over there if we're gonna 599 00:46:17,199 --> 00:46:22,480 if we're gonna, you know, cover something like the movie Dragon Ball Evolution 600 00:46:22,599 --> 00:46:25,960 and make fun of it. If we're gonna move on to GT. You 601 00:46:27,039 --> 00:46:30,239 know, we haven't decided yet, but we have our next two episodes mapped 602 00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:36,920 out. Yeah for sure. Yeah, No, I'm excited, and we'll 603 00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:39,679 see. Now that Browley is on the table like he has been brought into 604 00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:45,440 the cannon, I'm hoping he's somehow makes an appearance, whatever way that is. 605 00:46:46,039 --> 00:46:51,760 So here's hoping. I mean, Dragon Ball Super seems to be pretty 606 00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:55,559 good with granting the wishes of their fans, so we'll see whether it be 607 00:46:55,880 --> 00:47:00,320 presently or in the future. Yeah, hoping again. The series ended off 608 00:47:00,519 --> 00:47:05,880 again in a way where like that could be the last episode kind of thing. 609 00:47:07,039 --> 00:47:10,079 But yeah, obviously we're always ready for more dragon Ball, and from 610 00:47:10,119 --> 00:47:15,639 what I've heard, the ratings were amazing, so there's no there's no reason 611 00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:20,519 popularity wise for it to not to come back. So we know it's coming 612 00:47:20,559 --> 00:47:23,159 back with a movie, and there might be a series continuation later on as 613 00:47:23,199 --> 00:47:27,320 well. We got plenty of mom got to catch up on. So yeah, 614 00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:30,119 I think that overall the future is really bright for dragon Ball, but 615 00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:36,599 unfortunately we will have to be patient to see what exactly happens with the series 616 00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:40,599 from here. Yeah. But anyways, that is it for this one. 617 00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:44,719 Any closing remarks right because I cut you off there. Oh no, I 618 00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:47,360 was just gonna say something stupid and say, hopefully, yeah, I'm just 619 00:47:47,679 --> 00:47:53,000 shines at some point in the future. There really literally one day. There 620 00:47:53,039 --> 00:47:55,880 are fan creations, and I think there might be one where like, yeah, 621 00:47:55,880 --> 00:48:00,280 I'm just the main character. There is definitely one where it's like what 622 00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:04,719 if Vegeta came down to Earth instead of Goku, and like we could literally 623 00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,760 cover them for like an episode or two at some point if we run out 624 00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:10,920 of Dragon Ball material, because they're interesting, right, Like it's like, 625 00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:15,480 how would would Goku be the jerk and then Magina would be the guy who's 626 00:48:15,559 --> 00:48:20,119 like fighting for Earth, Like you know, it's interesting to consider that stuff. 627 00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:22,159 And now that we have, I guess the only thing is with the 628 00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:29,440 fusion, you have to be kind of similar power levels, right, yeah, 629 00:48:29,519 --> 00:48:32,840 that's something they I mean, potentially someone could lower their power level to 630 00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:37,599 the weaker person, but it's not It doesn't make as much sense as like 631 00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:44,280 two around equally strong opponents or arrivals fusing that works the best. I just 632 00:48:44,519 --> 00:48:46,199 I feel so bad for the guy. Like the last time we saw him, 633 00:48:46,519 --> 00:48:51,039 he was just so down after not being invited to the tournament, and 634 00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:53,639 I just, you know, I just wanted to have his moment whatever that 635 00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:59,679 is, maybe fusing with someone who brings the power level down and and winning 636 00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:04,920 that way, Like I just I need yamtra redemption. Somehow. It's funny 637 00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,320 we have people in the chat saying there is a Yamas guy, So I 638 00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:12,039 think like people agreed with you, and they're like, you know what we 639 00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:15,920 need to fucking give Yam. We need to make him the main character. 640 00:49:15,079 --> 00:49:19,760 Because he's been shut on enough, like he loses on on Boma, like 641 00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:23,119 nothing has worked out for him, maybe his baseball career, but he's bored 642 00:49:23,159 --> 00:49:28,519 of it. Yeah no, yeah there. We will see. We will 643 00:49:28,559 --> 00:49:31,280 see what happens with Yamtra moving forward. Guys, make sure to stay tuned 644 00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:37,280 for it and until next time, see US base Cowboys Bang